Things are getting heated and it will be fascinating to see how long or if U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro will keep her job after dropping charges against former Olympian David Hearn. Pirro admitted in a public filing that “botched” work was to blame for the peeling lining in the Reflecting Pool, not vandals. Trump’s reaction was swift and to the point, saying he “100% disagrees” with Pirro, acknowledging for the first time that there “may have been some contractor difficulty” but insisted the major damage was caused by vandalism.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, they're folks. It is Monday, August third, and the
Trump Piro pool party is on. Should we call it
a pool fight? And with that, welcome to this episode
of Amy and TJ. You're not gonna win a fight
against President Trump, are you? But right now she's in one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And look, maybe you don't win it short term, but
maybe in the long term you might come out ahead.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Okay, but after you lose your job, that is too
We're talking about Janeine pierro If you don't know, she's
the US attorney out of the office in DC, and
once again, Robes, the reflecting pool story just won't go away,
and I'm so glad it won't. I am loving it.
But right now what we have is Jeanine Piro going
head to head against her boss, the President, who has
put out a blister pretty I shouldn't say blistering. He
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didn't necessarily just attack her, but he attacked her decision
to drop the charges against Olympian David Hearn Robes. That
was stunning already when we saw that on front.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yes, we were.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I was surprised that Jeanine Piro actually made the choice
to not only drop the felony criminal charges against a
three time Olympic canoeist who yes represented the United States,
David Hearn, after a fifty sixty.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Mile bike ride.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
He was accused of vandalizing the reflecting pool and being
among those accused of causing all the damage, all that
peeling pool liner and Jeanine Piro was there in the
beginning talking tough about the ten years that David Herton
was facing, so Yes, when she decided to drop the charges,
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she had to explain why, and in this very public filing,
she very specifically stated that it was shoddy or botched
work done in a rush job to get the pool
ready for the Fourth of July celebrations, which made our
jaws collectively dropped because we were like, holy hell. She
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just completely spoke out against and gave an opposite narrative
that the President has been selling for and pedaling for weeks, and.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
We wondered what he was going to do.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Was he going to just come out and say thank you,
Jeanine Piro for explaining what we didn't have the information.
The Department of the Interior kept this from us, and
maybe no, he did the opposite.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
He went with.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
The Department of the Interior and threw Jeanine Piro under
the bus, and I don't know what. Were you surprised
he made that choice.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
It was a lot of under the bus throwing over
the past few days. Surprised or was this not even
a doubling down, a tripling down, a quadrupling down. This
is a I don't even robes, he is still still
while all she did in this filing was say what
everybody already knew. We knew, Robes that nobody was damaging
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and taking a knife and cutting a three hundred foot slit,
three hundred and fifty foot split.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
We knew that undetected.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
We knew nobody was pulling up the lining that was
floating all over the damn pool.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
This American hero was gonna go and just vandalize the
pool because he doesn't like Trump in broad daylight.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
That was July second. Do I have right when she
came out and did that press conference, Robes, I thought
they were gonna put him under the jail the way
she came out, he violently, yes, vulnerably.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
There were adverbs attached to what he did.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Destroying a national monument. They brought this up to a
level Robes that made it sound like he almost single
handedly was responsible. It was absurd for the foolishness that
we saw around a reflecting pool, this thing that's been
there one hundred plus years. It had the same problems
the whole time. The President fixed in two weeks, is
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what you're telling us. And he did it for just
a few million, okay, and it had problems immediately, And
we found out from the filling the filing Robes they
knew about the problems two days after the work was
compared to correct We're going to get into that as well,
but Robes. This sets us up now to what happened
with this filing and what the President ends up saying.
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The excerpts I included here from the motion to dismiss
the charges. As much as we talk about Robes, there
is no way we can come out and say any
more strongly than the Department of Justice did about why
these charges would be.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And I think that was one of the surprising parts
of it because it wasn't like and yes they did
it on a Friday, trying to sneak it in when
people aren't paying attention, going off for a summer weekend
Friday dumps, yes, very famous. But she chose some very
specific language that even surprised me. She was very deliberate
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in placing the blame solely on the Department of the
Interior and solely on the construction and the rush job.
This was an excerpt from her to dismiss the charges
against David Hearn. She said the rush to complete the
project led to hasty and botched work that was not
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remediated before the project was finished, and the fencing removed.
Almost immediately after work was initially completed. Peeling was observed
along the pool perimeter.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And the guy who saw it worked for the cut
where the government. He reported it.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It's not like two days later.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Saw it and then nobody knew this was boiling. It.
Goes on to say it was not until after the
return of the indictment against David Hearn that the Department
of Interior then provided additional documents indicating that damage to
the reflecting pool was the result of flawed installation by
the contractor and the rush to complete the project prior
to events associated with America to fifty Ropes. She is saying,
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plain as day, everybody was in a hurry to get
this done for the President, and because they were in
such a hurry, they cut some corners and the work
wasn't done that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Way without a doubt. That is exactly what she said.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And then she wentn't even further and said the damage
was the result of a botched installation and not vandalism
as initially represented by the Department of the Interior. Indeed,
the US Attorney's Office could only rely on the information
provided by DOI that the damage was entirely caused by vandals, including.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
The defendant in this case, David Hearn.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I mean, this was as big of a slap in
the face to the Department of Interior and frankly to
President Trump. Then she could have I mean, she wrote it,
and it was it was non negotiable.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Because Robes, I think, is this not correct? Couldn't she
be in some really serious trouble if she filed for
charges and an indictment comes against a guy, if a
judge a court believes that she knew otherwise, Yes, she,
I mean, could you get this bar stuff like that?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
If not, you should be able to so. Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I would imagine that that would absolutely be grounds for disbarment.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
But baby might not just be cya from a public standpoint.
She might need to do it legally to make sure
the court understands this was not me. This is what
I was told, and I was just bringing the information best.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I had, And the moment I found out what the
real information was, I dropped charges.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
She went on. This is where she firmly throws the
Department of Interior, and the Secretary under the bus said
it was not until her office repeatedly reached out to
the Interior Department dozens and dozens of times that the
Interior slowly started trickling information to us ROMs that was specific,
that was very specific language, trickling dozens and dozens of times.
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We had to ask, she's covering up?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
But maybe legally here absolutely, and so President Trump had
a choice to make. Do I say, wow, given this
new information, I am fully more fully understanding the situation.
I too was misled by the Department of the Interior.
Oh no, no, no, no no, because then he would
have to admit that his push for the rush for
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the two hundred and fiftieth the construction company I believe
that he used before and one of his Trump properties,
that he actually green lighted that they were responsible.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
No, because then it goes back to him.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So his truth social post made it very clear how
he feels. I disagree one hundred percent with Janine Pirou,
the US Attorney for the District of Columbia, on the
reflecting pool. I don't know what she was thinking. Question
mark to me, I like, to me, like, what.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Does that to you?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
What?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
To me?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It was a pure case of vandalism that included the
grass which had a big eighty six forty seven emblazoned
in giant letters on it, and other elements of the
surround Huh. There may have been some contractor difficulty, but
the major damage was caused by vandals.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
In all caps.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That is an admission by the president. That's as close
as you're ever going to get that he was wrong.
That's an emission by the president. That is the closest
you're going to get. Ropes. He jumped from the pool
to the grass. He jumped from the pool being the
focus to the grass. Look at how he's talking. He
disagrees with her on the reflecting pool to me.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
To me, it's my opinion based on zero facts.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
He's saying, pure case of vandalism that included the grass.
He's focusing on the grass because it is someone did
put eighty six forty seven in the grass that is
true and got nothing to do with the pool. And
I have not heard him make any public statement or
shout for the mountaintops about the grass. It's been all
about the pool. So he's switching it up on us
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and saying, well, the eighty six forty seven it may
have been some contractor difficulty. That is as close as
you're getting to an admission that he was wrong. There
may have been some contractor difficulty. What can that mean?
Baby botched installation?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
No, just possibly some difficulty.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
That's it. It's to you know, this is one of
my favorite stories. It had been. It's gotten to a
point like are you serious. It's okay, It's just they
can not ever find just say I was wrong, we
got this one wrong. Nobody administration can admit a mistake.
You're not allowed to.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Wouldn't it be so nice if they did.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Wouldn't your shoulders just relax a bit for there to
be an admission that everyone makes mistakes.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
The hard part is admitting it, but it actually is
what endears you to the public, where we actually we
can forgive mistakes, but when you can't admit them, that
is a major problem.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
They've made things worse worlds because not only not admit them,
they tell us that what we're saying, seeing with our
own eyes and videos aren't true. They're there there. He's
been talking to us like we're all stupid for weeks
about this pool. He believes what he believes. And if
you're you follow the president and you think that, yep,
he was telling me the truth the whole time. Or
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if you say it, well, I think he was just
telling me what he thought at the time. He had
bad information, we could get on board.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I was willing to that, but this.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Is something else. Baby, I can't admit they're wrong. Two
words that would relax our shoulders coming out of the
President's mouth anytime. My bad.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I was gonna say, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Oh no, no, that's too far, that's too far. I would
have his doctor check him out if he ever says
I'm sorry, but just my bad, Yeah, my bad, that's
on me. Ah damn it. I was working, But what
was what's wrong? Because that's seen as weakness. Weakness, babe,
If you complain about a pilot that flies too close
to people on the beach, you're weak. If you don't
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see how that was just awesome. Everything is everybody's weak
testosterone checking for now. Everybody's weak, weak, weak.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Jesus, come, how about Doug Bergham, the Secretary of the Interior.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Is he weak or is he strong?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
He went harder than the president, didn't he to defend.
Now he's defending the Interior Department. And that's fine, But
he's Interior secretary and I get it. But he needed
to say something, Robes. But he's still pushing and pawning
this same thing. So yes, he had a long statement
that he put out on X as well after the president.
And it's clear he wants to keep his job.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Oh yes he does, because his first line says it.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
All the evidence is clear.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Vandals have repeatedly caused damage to the reflecting pool period.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Some of these acts were even caught on camera.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Period.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
We also provided the US Attorney's Office expert and eyewitness
testimony to the damage done by vandals, and provided every
piece of evidence they asked for in the requested timeline
detailing each area of damage at the pool.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
What does that mean provided every piece they asked for?
We've read a lot of statements in our lives. We
pick up on little words like that. He goes on
to say that President cares deeply about protecting our sacred
national monuments, and his leadership has led to the restoration
of our nation's capital by making DC safe and beautiful again.
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Intentional damage done to the reflecting goal is no different
than defacing any one of our other national monuments.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
We won't back down to deranged people who want to destroy, deface,
or degrade our monument.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Is that still, David Hearn, he didn't mention, David Hern
there did not why not? But it is just defacing
any one of our national monuments. He put his name
in front of Kennedy's right, defacing, defacing. That was the
first thing about to mind when I saw that, defacing
any one of our national monuments, and that's exactly what
he was accused of doing. But stay here, folks, we
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will we come back explain the I guess one of
the more jaw dropping parts to us is when the
US Attorney's Office was made aware that they had a
BS case. And also the best part of it all,
when someone first noticed that the reflecting pool was jacked up.
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It was a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Stare welcome back everyone, as yes, the reflecting or as
it's been called, the deflecting Pool. Drama continues. It just
won't go away. President Trump could make it go away.
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He could have applauded Janine Piro for finding the truth,
asked some questions about the Department of the Interior, and
people might have felt like, Okay, finally we're on the
right track. We're not just pointing fingers at former Olympians
accusing them of unthinkable acts of violence, things that just
don't make sense or sit.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well with a lot of folks.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I would imagine, I know what you're saying there, unthinkable
acts of violently Yes, you said violence, like he was
violent pole.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well no, yes, but like violently attacked the reflecting pool.
It seems silly on its face, and so to double
down now, but we're getting more information from Janine Piro's office,
who now is letting us know when they were made
aware of the damage and when the Department of the
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Interior actually knew about the damage.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Okay, this is fantastic. Robes an engineer, all right. June ninth,
there was a final inspection of the pool. It was
good to go, so it essentially opened on June ninth,
and they were getting in ahead of the fight was
on June fourteenth, when his birthday. The UFC thing June ninth,
Final inspection June eleventh. An engineer, an engineer with the
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Park Service was alerted to the peeling of the reflecting
pool on June eleventh. Robes. June eleventh, he wrote an
email saying, this morning an area of the reflecting pool
coding was identified to be peeling. Staff was notified and
I was able to inspect the area. That is from
the engineer on June eleventh. So why is it that
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Jeanine Piro wasn't aware of this until July seventeenth.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
That's insane, that's almost what is that five six weeks later?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
And so she drained, She.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Toured the drained pool, and she noticed the extensive damage.
And look, that's because she knows she was being asked,
as has the President, by reporters, for pictures evidence of
this three hundred and fifty foot slit that he claims
some vandal made using a sharp object in the middle
of the pool. The problem is, she goes and she looks,
and she is not understanding how what the claims of
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vandalism are, how they match up with what she's actually
visually seeing there at the pool.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
So was the lady who brought charges against the guy
that we had evidence already that he wasn't guilty. We
had it on June eleventh. June eleventh, and she brought
a case and a month later she becomes aware that's
not good investigative work. Is it is the DOI and
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keeping stuff from her? What are they saying happened here? Ropes?
Is this just another fiasco? Will never get answers?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Well, the DOI is saying we gave her the information
when she asked for it. So she goes and tours
the drained pool and says, what the hell? This doesn't
look like one area that's been vandalized. This looks like widespread,
extensive damage from a faulty installation process. So she asks
for more information and then her theory is confirmed when
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she gets set information.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Ropes, why would they withhold the.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Information because it didn't fall in line with the president's explanation?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
They let her file charges against the guy?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Had it stuff bolstered the president's assertion?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Okay, this is maybe this is a bigger Maybe it
is a bigger situe with Robes. They withheld this that
is her accusation, that.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Is her accusation.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Where does this go? How long does Janine Pirou last robes?
We They've known each other a long long.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Time, and she's been a huge advocate for President Trump.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
She was on Fox News every single show.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Constantly supporting him, bolstering his point of view. So, yes,
he gave her this very prestigious appointment as US Attorney
for the District of Columbia.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And now this is probably what is this.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
The big her big first case basically that she's in
front of in a in like this has certainly been
his big issue, and so she's now the face of it.
She's now going to be prosecuting it. And look, I
keep thinking of Pam Bondi. He wanted her to go
after certain people who he felt like. I think the
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accusation is that he felt like when after him, when
she didn't do things or didn't move as quickly as
he would like her to have moved in terms of
prosecuting his perceived political enemies, she was cast aside. And
now Todd Blanche is there trying to get confirmed this
week because he is willing to do the president's bidding.
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Ginine Piro just proved that she's not.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Well ros it she does, she legally can't.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, and I would say that Pam Bondi probably felt
very similarly.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
She legally can't do anything, so they'll know if she
will survive this one. But you mentioned Bondi, we mentioned
Christy No, we mentioned Tulsi Gabbert and talking earlier, these
are three really high profile women that were in his
cabinet that are out of a job. I know Tulsi
Gabbert resigned, but hope.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Lots of people resign because they have to.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It's just to see him going at it again publicly
with another woman, a high profile a woman as a
part of his team is something. We'll see how long
this lasts, how long she lasts and if this maybe
just fades away. But the pool ain't fixed.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Oh no, but it's going to be and it's going
to be perfect. It's going to be the most beautiful
reflecting pool you've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
American flag, blue environment.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Absolutely, we will stay tuned on this one. Also, you
can just follow President Trump's truth social post and you'll
know in real time as well. But in the meantime,
we always appreciate you listening to us.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Everyone. I made me roboch alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk soon.
Hey, they're folks. It is Monday, August third, and the
Trump Piro pool party is on. Should we call it
a pool fight? And with that, welcome to this episode
of Amy and TJ. You're not gonna win a fight
against President Trump, are you? But right now she's in one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And look, maybe you don't win it short term, but
maybe in the long term you might come out ahead.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Okay, but after you lose your job, that is too
We're talking about Janeine pierro If you don't know, she's
the US attorney out of the office in DC, and
once again, Robes, the reflecting pool story just won't go away,
and I'm so glad it won't. I am loving it.
But right now what we have is Jeanine Piro going
head to head against her boss, the President, who has
put out a blister pretty I shouldn't say blistering. He
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didn't necessarily just attack her, but he attacked her decision
to drop the charges against Olympian David Hearn Robes. That
was stunning already when we saw that on front.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yes, we were.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I was surprised that Jeanine Piro actually made the choice
to not only drop the felony criminal charges against a
three time Olympic canoeist who yes represented the United States,
David Hearn, after a fifty sixty.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Mile bike ride.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
He was accused of vandalizing the reflecting pool and being
among those accused of causing all the damage, all that
peeling pool liner and Jeanine Piro was there in the
beginning talking tough about the ten years that David Herton
was facing, so Yes, when she decided to drop the charges,
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she had to explain why, and in this very public filing,
she very specifically stated that it was shoddy or botched
work done in a rush job to get the pool
ready for the Fourth of July celebrations, which made our
jaws collectively dropped because we were like, holy hell. She
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just completely spoke out against and gave an opposite narrative
that the President has been selling for and pedaling for weeks, and.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
We wondered what he was going to do.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Was he going to just come out and say thank you,
Jeanine Piro for explaining what we didn't have the information.
The Department of the Interior kept this from us, and
maybe no, he did the opposite.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
He went with.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
The Department of the Interior and threw Jeanine Piro under
the bus, and I don't know what. Were you surprised
he made that choice.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
It was a lot of under the bus throwing over
the past few days. Surprised or was this not even
a doubling down, a tripling down, a quadrupling down. This
is a I don't even robes, he is still still
while all she did in this filing was say what
everybody already knew. We knew, Robes that nobody was damaging
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and taking a knife and cutting a three hundred foot slit,
three hundred and fifty foot split.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
We knew that undetected.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
We knew nobody was pulling up the lining that was
floating all over the damn pool.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
This American hero was gonna go and just vandalize the
pool because he doesn't like Trump in broad daylight.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
That was July second. Do I have right when she
came out and did that press conference, Robes, I thought
they were gonna put him under the jail the way
she came out, he violently, yes, vulnerably.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
There were adverbs attached to what he did.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Destroying a national monument. They brought this up to a
level Robes that made it sound like he almost single
handedly was responsible. It was absurd for the foolishness that
we saw around a reflecting pool, this thing that's been
there one hundred plus years. It had the same problems
the whole time. The President fixed in two weeks, is
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what you're telling us. And he did it for just
a few million, okay, and it had problems immediately, And
we found out from the filling the filing Robes they
knew about the problems two days after the work was
compared to correct We're going to get into that as well,
but Robes. This sets us up now to what happened
with this filing and what the President ends up saying.
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The excerpts I included here from the motion to dismiss
the charges. As much as we talk about Robes, there
is no way we can come out and say any
more strongly than the Department of Justice did about why
these charges would be.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And I think that was one of the surprising parts
of it because it wasn't like and yes they did
it on a Friday, trying to sneak it in when
people aren't paying attention, going off for a summer weekend
Friday dumps, yes, very famous. But she chose some very
specific language that even surprised me. She was very deliberate
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in placing the blame solely on the Department of the
Interior and solely on the construction and the rush job.
This was an excerpt from her to dismiss the charges
against David Hearn. She said the rush to complete the
project led to hasty and botched work that was not
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remediated before the project was finished, and the fencing removed.
Almost immediately after work was initially completed. Peeling was observed
along the pool perimeter.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And the guy who saw it worked for the cut
where the government. He reported it.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It's not like two days later.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Saw it and then nobody knew this was boiling. It.
Goes on to say it was not until after the
return of the indictment against David Hearn that the Department
of Interior then provided additional documents indicating that damage to
the reflecting pool was the result of flawed installation by
the contractor and the rush to complete the project prior
to events associated with America to fifty Ropes. She is saying,
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plain as day, everybody was in a hurry to get
this done for the President, and because they were in
such a hurry, they cut some corners and the work
wasn't done that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Way without a doubt. That is exactly what she said.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And then she wentn't even further and said the damage
was the result of a botched installation and not vandalism
as initially represented by the Department of the Interior. Indeed,
the US Attorney's Office could only rely on the information
provided by DOI that the damage was entirely caused by vandals, including.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
The defendant in this case, David Hearn.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I mean, this was as big of a slap in
the face to the Department of Interior and frankly to
President Trump. Then she could have I mean, she wrote it,
and it was it was non negotiable.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Because Robes, I think, is this not correct? Couldn't she
be in some really serious trouble if she filed for
charges and an indictment comes against a guy, if a
judge a court believes that she knew otherwise, Yes, she,
I mean, could you get this bar stuff like that?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
If not, you should be able to so. Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I would imagine that that would absolutely be grounds for disbarment.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
But baby might not just be cya from a public standpoint.
She might need to do it legally to make sure
the court understands this was not me. This is what
I was told, and I was just bringing the information best.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I had, And the moment I found out what the
real information was, I dropped charges.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
She went on. This is where she firmly throws the
Department of Interior, and the Secretary under the bus said
it was not until her office repeatedly reached out to
the Interior Department dozens and dozens of times that the
Interior slowly started trickling information to us ROMs that was specific,
that was very specific language, trickling dozens and dozens of times.
(07:50):
We had to ask, she's covering up?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
But maybe legally here absolutely, and so President Trump had
a choice to make. Do I say, wow, given this
new information, I am fully more fully understanding the situation.
I too was misled by the Department of the Interior.
Oh no, no, no, no no, because then he would
have to admit that his push for the rush for
(08:13):
the two hundred and fiftieth the construction company I believe
that he used before and one of his Trump properties,
that he actually green lighted that they were responsible.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
No, because then it goes back to him.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So his truth social post made it very clear how
he feels. I disagree one hundred percent with Janine Pirou,
the US Attorney for the District of Columbia, on the
reflecting pool. I don't know what she was thinking. Question
mark to me, I like, to me, like, what.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Does that to you?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
What?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
To me?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It was a pure case of vandalism that included the
grass which had a big eighty six forty seven emblazoned
in giant letters on it, and other elements of the
surround Huh. There may have been some contractor difficulty, but
the major damage was caused by vandals.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
In all caps.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That is an admission by the president. That's as close
as you're ever going to get that he was wrong.
That's an emission by the president. That is the closest
you're going to get. Ropes. He jumped from the pool
to the grass. He jumped from the pool being the
focus to the grass. Look at how he's talking. He
disagrees with her on the reflecting pool to me.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
To me, it's my opinion based on zero facts.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
He's saying, pure case of vandalism that included the grass.
He's focusing on the grass because it is someone did
put eighty six forty seven in the grass that is
true and got nothing to do with the pool. And
I have not heard him make any public statement or
shout for the mountaintops about the grass. It's been all
about the pool. So he's switching it up on us
(09:57):
and saying, well, the eighty six forty seven it may
have been some contractor difficulty. That is as close as
you're getting to an admission that he was wrong. There
may have been some contractor difficulty. What can that mean?
Baby botched installation?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
No, just possibly some difficulty.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
That's it. It's to you know, this is one of
my favorite stories. It had been. It's gotten to a
point like are you serious. It's okay, It's just they
can not ever find just say I was wrong, we
got this one wrong. Nobody administration can admit a mistake.
You're not allowed to.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Wouldn't it be so nice if they did.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Wouldn't your shoulders just relax a bit for there to
be an admission that everyone makes mistakes.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
The hard part is admitting it, but it actually is
what endears you to the public, where we actually we
can forgive mistakes, but when you can't admit them, that
is a major problem.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
They've made things worse worlds because not only not admit them,
they tell us that what we're saying, seeing with our
own eyes and videos aren't true. They're there there. He's
been talking to us like we're all stupid for weeks
about this pool. He believes what he believes. And if
you're you follow the president and you think that, yep,
he was telling me the truth the whole time. Or
(11:17):
if you say it, well, I think he was just
telling me what he thought at the time. He had
bad information, we could get on board.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I was willing to that, but this.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Is something else. Baby, I can't admit they're wrong. Two
words that would relax our shoulders coming out of the
President's mouth anytime. My bad.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I was gonna say, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Oh no, no, that's too far, that's too far. I would
have his doctor check him out if he ever says
I'm sorry, but just my bad, Yeah, my bad, that's
on me. Ah damn it. I was working, But what
was what's wrong? Because that's seen as weakness. Weakness, babe,
If you complain about a pilot that flies too close
to people on the beach, you're weak. If you don't
(11:55):
see how that was just awesome. Everything is everybody's weak
testosterone checking for now. Everybody's weak, weak, weak.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Jesus, come, how about Doug Bergham, the Secretary of the Interior.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Is he weak or is he strong?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
He went harder than the president, didn't he to defend.
Now he's defending the Interior Department. And that's fine, But
he's Interior secretary and I get it. But he needed
to say something, Robes. But he's still pushing and pawning
this same thing. So yes, he had a long statement
that he put out on X as well after the president.
And it's clear he wants to keep his job.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Oh yes he does, because his first line says it.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
All the evidence is clear.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Vandals have repeatedly caused damage to the reflecting pool period.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Some of these acts were even caught on camera.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Period.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
We also provided the US Attorney's Office expert and eyewitness
testimony to the damage done by vandals, and provided every
piece of evidence they asked for in the requested timeline
detailing each area of damage at the pool.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
What does that mean provided every piece they asked for?
We've read a lot of statements in our lives. We
pick up on little words like that. He goes on
to say that President cares deeply about protecting our sacred
national monuments, and his leadership has led to the restoration
of our nation's capital by making DC safe and beautiful again.
(13:18):
Intentional damage done to the reflecting goal is no different
than defacing any one of our other national monuments.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
We won't back down to deranged people who want to destroy, deface,
or degrade our monument.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Is that still, David Hearn, he didn't mention, David Hern
there did not why not? But it is just defacing
any one of our national monuments. He put his name
in front of Kennedy's right, defacing, defacing. That was the
first thing about to mind when I saw that, defacing
any one of our national monuments, and that's exactly what
he was accused of doing. But stay here, folks, we
(13:53):
will we come back explain the I guess one of
the more jaw dropping parts to us is when the
US Attorney's Office was made aware that they had a
BS case. And also the best part of it all,
when someone first noticed that the reflecting pool was jacked up.
(14:15):
It was a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Stare welcome back everyone, as yes, the reflecting or as
it's been called, the deflecting Pool. Drama continues. It just
won't go away. President Trump could make it go away.
(14:38):
He could have applauded Janine Piro for finding the truth,
asked some questions about the Department of the Interior, and
people might have felt like, Okay, finally we're on the
right track. We're not just pointing fingers at former Olympians
accusing them of unthinkable acts of violence, things that just
don't make sense or sit.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well with a lot of folks.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I would imagine, I know what you're saying there, unthinkable
acts of violently Yes, you said violence, like he was
violent pole.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well no, yes, but like violently attacked the reflecting pool.
It seems silly on its face, and so to double
down now, but we're getting more information from Janine Piro's office,
who now is letting us know when they were made
aware of the damage and when the Department of the
(15:26):
Interior actually knew about the damage.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Okay, this is fantastic. Robes an engineer, all right. June ninth,
there was a final inspection of the pool. It was
good to go, so it essentially opened on June ninth,
and they were getting in ahead of the fight was
on June fourteenth, when his birthday. The UFC thing June ninth,
Final inspection June eleventh. An engineer, an engineer with the
(15:52):
Park Service was alerted to the peeling of the reflecting
pool on June eleventh. Robes. June eleventh, he wrote an
email saying, this morning an area of the reflecting pool
coding was identified to be peeling. Staff was notified and
I was able to inspect the area. That is from
the engineer on June eleventh. So why is it that
(16:13):
Jeanine Piro wasn't aware of this until July seventeenth.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
That's insane, that's almost what is that five six weeks later?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
And so she drained, She.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Toured the drained pool, and she noticed the extensive damage.
And look, that's because she knows she was being asked,
as has the President, by reporters, for pictures evidence of
this three hundred and fifty foot slit that he claims
some vandal made using a sharp object in the middle
of the pool. The problem is, she goes and she looks,
and she is not understanding how what the claims of
(16:49):
vandalism are, how they match up with what she's actually
visually seeing there at the pool.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
So was the lady who brought charges against the guy
that we had evidence already that he wasn't guilty. We
had it on June eleventh. June eleventh, and she brought
a case and a month later she becomes aware that's
not good investigative work. Is it is the DOI and
(17:19):
keeping stuff from her? What are they saying happened here? Ropes?
Is this just another fiasco? Will never get answers?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Well, the DOI is saying we gave her the information
when she asked for it. So she goes and tours
the drained pool and says, what the hell? This doesn't
look like one area that's been vandalized. This looks like widespread,
extensive damage from a faulty installation process. So she asks
for more information and then her theory is confirmed when
(17:48):
she gets set information.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Ropes, why would they withhold the.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Information because it didn't fall in line with the president's explanation?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
They let her file charges against the guy?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Had it stuff bolstered the president's assertion?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Okay, this is maybe this is a bigger Maybe it
is a bigger situe with Robes. They withheld this that
is her accusation, that.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Is her accusation.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Where does this go? How long does Janine Pirou last robes?
We They've known each other a long long.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Time, and she's been a huge advocate for President Trump.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
She was on Fox News every single show.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Constantly supporting him, bolstering his point of view. So, yes,
he gave her this very prestigious appointment as US Attorney
for the District of Columbia.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And now this is probably what is this.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
The big her big first case basically that she's in
front of in a in like this has certainly been
his big issue, and so she's now the face of it.
She's now going to be prosecuting it. And look, I
keep thinking of Pam Bondi. He wanted her to go
after certain people who he felt like. I think the
(19:01):
accusation is that he felt like when after him, when
she didn't do things or didn't move as quickly as
he would like her to have moved in terms of
prosecuting his perceived political enemies, she was cast aside. And
now Todd Blanche is there trying to get confirmed this
week because he is willing to do the president's bidding.
(19:23):
Ginine Piro just proved that she's not.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Well ros it she does, she legally can't.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, and I would say that Pam Bondi probably felt
very similarly.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
She legally can't do anything, so they'll know if she
will survive this one. But you mentioned Bondi, we mentioned
Christy No, we mentioned Tulsi Gabbert and talking earlier, these
are three really high profile women that were in his
cabinet that are out of a job. I know Tulsi
Gabbert resigned, but hope.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Lots of people resign because they have to.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It's just to see him going at it again publicly
with another woman, a high profile a woman as a
part of his team is something. We'll see how long
this lasts, how long she lasts and if this maybe
just fades away. But the pool ain't fixed.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Oh no, but it's going to be and it's going
to be perfect. It's going to be the most beautiful
reflecting pool you've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
American flag, blue environment.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Absolutely, we will stay tuned on this one. Also, you
can just follow President Trump's truth social post and you'll
know in real time as well. But in the meantime,
we always appreciate you listening to us.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Everyone. I made me roboch alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk soon.
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