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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey there, folks.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It is Monday, August third, and a US senator is
calling for a US congressman to resign, saying he is
unfit to serve. That congressman just happens to be that
senator's ex son in law and this thing is ugly
with that. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Robes. This has been the story at least has.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Been floating around and bubbling around for a while, having
to do with Congressman Max Miller and a divorce he's.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Going through right now.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
But Robes, his former father in law has come out
with a damning statement against him.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Absolutely, to say someone is unfit to serve, to say
that someone is dangerous and erratic. These are not terms
that you typically hear one senator calling another congressman. But
obviously this is personal. This is former family, and honestly
it's still family in the sense that this is the
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of his granddaughter.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Isn't that? Isn't this crazy?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
That Maximili we're talking about Congressman Max Milton from Ohio
and Senator Bernie Moreno, also from Ohio. Robes, the congressman
is saying some nasty stuff about what's going back that's.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
His daughter's granddad. Correct, Hey, that's his daughter.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You said it the same way, a different way, but
we talk about the same thing. But I think about
my You think about your child. You always want your
child to have a good relationship.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
With the grandparents.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Bro, this whole story is a mess, and it has
everything to do with a divorce, custody and some pretty
serious allegations, or not pretty serious. They are as serious
as you get when it comes to abuse.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Absolutely, this isn't just, i hate to say, like regular
domestic violence. There are specific and serious and extreme accusations
flying about what Senator Moreno's daughter is claiming her now
ex husband did to her, and even what she's saying
he did to their.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Daughter and daughters too.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
The daughter is two years old right now. There is
a major custody battle going on for that two year old.
And look, it's hard to imagine how quickly things turned ugly.
But Max and Emily they married in twenty twenty two.
I mean, that is not that long ago.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Divorced last year, or at least it was finalized last year.
Who knows exactly when they started the process or when
they had problems, but Robes, this was a very quick marriage.
It produced a daughter, and it also produced, according to her,
some pretty awful domestic violence incidents. He is up for
reelection right now. He is continuing with that, but he
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is in his he's going for his third term as
a congressman. But Maximill is someone who used to be
a White House ad and he is someone who has
the endorsement of President Trump. He is also someone Robes
who is now in a fight to hold onto a
seat that's very important to.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Republicans, absolutely, and this is a razor thin race right
now on midterm elections come November. And so right now,
President Trump continues to endorse Miller, but he did acknowledge
that he knows there are accusations. He said, I think
right now there are just accusations. But that is a
big deal to have Trump's endorsement for him, at least
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heading into the midterms. Don't know if that will hold
given this latest round of events.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well this isn't it something from Platner, Right, and we're
talking about Max Miller. Now what the party seems willing
to do because the stakes are so high.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Right, But now you've got another Republican congressman in a
tightly contested very important congressional seat, who has accusations of,
like I said, extreme domestic violence. Among the accusations that Emily,
his ex wife, Senator Moreno's daughter has made that he
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threw boiling water on her, scald at her. She said
that he held a gun to her head, that he
threw her against the wall, that he hit her, and
that he threatened her and continues to threaten her.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And so I think one of those incidents, the one,
the walled incident she mentioned, happened in front of their
two year old daughter. She says, So those are the
accusations we're talking about. Some of this stuff has been
leaking out and coming out. Look, no, these are the filing,
the back and forth they've been doing in this custody
dispute over the child. Yes, they are divorced, but still
fighting over custody. So some of this stuff has been
coming out. He has come out and he has said,
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Robes absolutely is not true. That he is not guilty
of any of this stuff. I say, I use the
term not guilty, but he no charges have ever been
brought against him, criminal charges.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, he has just said, to be clear, no court,
no agency has ever substantiated, any allegation of abuse against me.
No criminal charge has ever been filed against me. He said,
every single one of these claims that she has made
has been fully investigated. I cooperated fully each and every
time because I have nothing to hide then, and I
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have nothing to hide now.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Now with all this, we should mention as well one
other thing, again unsubstantiated, and it's a mystery of how
exactly it happened. But their two year old broke a
collar bhone.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So there's not a good explanation from anybody I can tell.
But it seems like Emily at least was putting the
responsibilit on him. I don't think he was blaming her,
but at least he had to deny. I had to
come out and say I had nothing to do with
a two year old breaking her collarbhone. So all of
that he has thrown his accusations back at her, calling
her manipulate, even says she was bipolar, says she has
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serious mental health issues. So all of that now sets
up what happened over the weekend. He puts out a
pretty extended video I think it was about twenty minutes,
explaining himself and saying the allegations are wrong, and going
through them step by step, that robe seems to be
the thing that pissed off Cinnea Moreno.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yes, because he's been quiet. He has not said a word,
and we actually were wondering. We did the story a
month or so back, and it was of note that
Senator Moreno was staying quiet because look, this is this
isn't anything anybody wants aired out publicly. But yes, once
he made this two camera video, that is when Senator
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Moreno felt like he needed to defend his daughter.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He didn't want that to stand. And you can imagine
a dad, wait, what was the last thing a dad
of a daughter will ever tolerate is another man putting
his hands on your daughter and to be aware possibly
of that robes.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And then you.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Add to the fact that you're gonna sit your ass
in front of a camera for twenty minutes and lie
to everybody about what you did to my child and.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Call her I can see why Moreno. Yes, this is
restrained in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yes, so this was Senator Moreno's Twitter post. As a
father and husband, I can tell you the last two
years have been pure hell for my wife, bridget our
daughter Emily, me, and our entire family in the aftermath
of Emily's divorce. It has been horrific to watch this
play out in full public view, all while knowing an
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innocent two year old girl is caught in the middle.
Our priority has always been protecting our daughter and our granddaughter.
Out of concern for the safety of my family, I
hoped to keep this matter private, but Max Miller's increasingly
erratic and dangerous behavior has made that impossible.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
This sound like he's talking about Joe's public erratic and
dangerous behavior, like he I'm sure this guy is aware
more stuff than we are.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Of course, so Senator Morino goes on to say, as
he has admitted privately, Max Miller needs serious psychological help.
He is a danger to my daughter and I hold
my breath every minute it he has custody of my granddaughter.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
That reads for parents maybe woo.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
It certainly does. He goes on to say, if there
are any basic standards of character required to hold elected office,
Max Miller fails them. He should not serve in the
House of Representatives. I believe Max Miller needs to seek
professional help to end the clear pattern of abuse he
has left in his wake. I believe he should not
be free to continue endangering others until he does. I
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ran for office because I wanted to make a difference
for the country that gave me every opportunity to succeed,
and to leave this nation better for my children and
my grandchildren. That sacrifice has been especially hard on my wife, Bridget,
whose big heart and steady support have never wavered. I
owe it to her, to Emily and to my granddaughter
to speak the truth.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Now, don't know this guy, don't know his politics, but
every single word of that.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Works. Babe.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That sounded personal, impassioned, didn't sound like somebody's office wrote it. Again,
don't know him at all, but wrote that just that
is painful to hear. He could have attacked possibly miller
harder than he did. He didn't go after him as
a r. He didn't want no name call, no.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Nastiness, didn't get specific.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
The guy needs help. He's dangerous. I'm nervous. He shouldn't
serve bro. That is a Ohio Republican saying that about
another Ohio Republican.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I was gonna say, and he knows he's saying this
about an Ohio Republican who President Trump has endorsed up
until now, and he knows there's a risk to that
because the seat's important because Trump at all costs, as
do many Republicans in power, they don't want to lose
the balance obviously of Congress in these last two years
of his administration. So that is actually putting himself in
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a dangerous political position to go out against a Trump endorse.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Look, but what is Trump going to stand by? This
is getting worse and worse and worse. The back I
added this rolles. There was a text message, give you
a little history between the relationship between Moreno and Max Miller.
This has been documentary, has been reported. This was in
one of the court filings in the custody but I
included this ropes just to show giving an idea of
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potentially what the feelings are between these two men. But
this was a former or previous tech sent I think
even a year or so ago, in which he was
a lot of people say threatening Moreno.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yes, so this is from Max Miller, former son in
law to former father in law Senator Moreno. Miller says,
I'm sick of this. You know I never hurt your daughter.
Take this however you want. Everyone is going to get
to know you better than your wife does. Enjoy the ride. Brother,
I wouldn't have to do this if you could keep
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your lying daughter under control.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Jesus Christ. Wow, Wow, Jesus Christ. Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
This is That's how how bad it got behind the scenes.
I thought it was worth noting as well. Emily The
Emily Moraino, her attorney, put out a statement as well,
calling it shameful that Max Miller decided to go on.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
He called it robes.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
A bizarre and live field rant about his ex wife
to desperately try to save his political career. It was
a long and bizarre I don't know how much of
it you saw, Rose, but he was sitting in a kitchen.
It was well lit. He was sitting just talking to
camera for twenty minutes. It was a live stream, but
then he ended up putting it up the recorded version
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online as well. He said quote, there is a documented
trove of evidence that Miller has a history of violent
and dangerous behavior, and no amount of victim shaming.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Will change it.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Despicable and aborn that Miller lied on an unhinged and
humiliating video for their daughter to.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Watch one day.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Oh my god, I hadn't even thought about that. Wow. Wow,
that does say a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
No loving parent would have ever use their daughter as
a PR pond to save their own political career.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Dawn.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
That reads for parents too. That reads for two parents
sitting here who have made decisions about keeping quiet about
things in public that would absolutely help us from a
PR standpoint, but we didn't want our children to go
through more exactly that is Throbes.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
That line reads.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That reads, and yes, her attorney went on to say,
Miller can lie and spin on X, but he cannot
do so under oath in a court of law. We
are confident that justice will prevail in court.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
We shall see.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
And we mentioned just a moment ago as well, the
President has endorsed Miller. We will let you hear every
single word of that very enthusiastic endorsement when we come
backs there.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Welcome back to Amy and TJ. We are talking about
Republican versus Republican, or you could say former father in
law versus former son in law. It's all the same,
but it's spilling out in a really ugly way in
the public and President Trump. You could even say, maybe
Wilby is could be caught in the middle because what
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he says if anything about this could have a big
impact on both of those lawmakers political careers.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Sea Moreno's up win not for a while.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It's a six year term. He was. He took off
this January first, twenty twenty five. So he's got a
waste to go. Oh got Yeah, this is his first term.
He's got what four years plus left on his Now.
Not so much for Max Miller, who was up for
reelection come November.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
And in a difficult race right now, very close with
a Democrat right now, only a couple they're within the
margin of era.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
They're in Ohio.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
The Democrats are obviously chomping at the bit robes and
Republicans are trying to hold onto a seat. The whole
the Senate and the House is up in the air
right now. You can't lose one. And so are they
willing robes to stand by a guy who's been accused
of throwing hot water on his wife, scalding her, hitting
her in front of their two year old, throwing her
up against the wall, holding a gun to her head.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
They're just accusations.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Well, yes, because the President was asked about this actually
on Sunday on Air Force One. After all, that happened
this weekend with the twenty minute to camera post and
then certainly Moreno's response. Trump said, so far it's accusations.
He did say he'll be looking at it. But look,
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earlier this year he said, I don't get involved in
the personal lives of members and those things. You know,
he's refuted some of these allegations, and he's got to
work that out.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I think both sides do this ropes. Obviously with Platner
there was a lot of that for a little while.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Right they're they're they're waiting to see what the what
the political will is, what the stomach is from voters,
and once they get a sense of whether or not
the voters are still okay, like they will literally be
fairweathered friends in terms of their support.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well, they both criticize each other for the same stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
You're standing by a guy who's that, and then the
response is, well, there Joe's accusations. But then the other
side does it, and it just completely flips. Look at
you all, you're standing next to that guy, Well you
all did it last.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
It's just the same.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Look, the guy's never been charged with anything. Robes, what
what do you do. That's for the voters of his district.
And that's nothing else to say other than that.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
True. I mean look and I mean look, it wasn't
It wasn't that long ago. May fifth, the President had
a ringing endorsement speller, a ringing talking about his service
to the country, that he would in the US Marine Corps,
how hard he worked during his first administration, how he
fights tirelessly to help secure our southern border, stop migrant crime,
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murderers and other criminals from illegally entering our country. He's
going to strengthen our great military, our veterans. He's going
to cut taxes and regulations and to port our incredible farmers.
He's going to defend our right to the Second Amendment.
This is what he says. His last line. Max Miller
has my complete and total endorsement in all caps. He
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will not let you down.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
It's not going to age.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Well, I don't know that it will.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, well, look maybe the President didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
No, he did know. This stuff has been out there for.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
It's been out for a while.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So he was aware at least. But again, there are allegations.
He's an innocent man. You'll proven otherwise.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
But Ropes.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
There's a woman out there saying that this guy not
one incident, not two, not three, five plus right, this
is a pattern here.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
What do you do with it? That's up to the
Is it his district?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It certainly is. And look, Wednesday is the deadline to
replace him on the ballot.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
With the Party two. But he ain't gonna know where
he's at.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
It doesn't feel like that's gonna happen. So, yes, this
will be the voter's decision in Ohio.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
They're gonna show up. Republicans are going to show up
in campaign for him to save that seat. Would anybody
stand on a stage hand in hand, you know that
the shot.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Hands in the air with the crowd around and endorse him.
It's got to be no way, man. That's tough.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Keep an eye on this one, Max Miller, Senator Moreno,
it's it's going as back and forth. But he is
asking for him to resign Ropes. He wants him out
of Congress. We'll keep an eye on it, folks. We
always appreciate you spending a little time with us.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I'm TJ. That's Ropes talk soon.