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December 4, 2024 36 mins

Bring on the champagne and balloons, because Amy & T.J. are celebrating a successful year of their podcast! They share what they've learned from their experience and how they've grown as T.J. reflects on his unpleasant memories from this time last year.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome everyone to a very special edition of and TJ.
It is over recording this December fifth, and that is
a very special day for us. It is our one
year anniversary for the podcast. We'll take. We'll take what

(00:23):
we can get and we used.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
To do back in the day. It's just a slow class, slow.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Class, right. Yeah, that's ye powerful.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Meaningful anniversary. Wow. We have so many anniversaries we can't yeah,
we can't keep them straight. But this is a can't
believe we're sitting here a year later. I'm not I'm
not saying I can't believe we made it a year
during the podcast, but I couldn't imagine I would ever
have a one year anniversary of a podcast. That's not
something that was in my mind not too terribly long ago.

(00:52):
So it's it's it's kind of incredible. And it's been
a hell of a year.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, and I know that, you know, but and anyone
who knows me knows I am a big believer in celebrating,
in celebrating anniversaries and birthdays, because these are the moments
where we can not only feel good about where we are,
but reflect back on how far we've come. And I

(01:15):
think that's what I wanted to do just for a
little bit today. I also wanted to point out we
on social media, on our on our social media page,
asked all of you to send in your questions and
we are going to be answering your questions in just
a bit. Andy, how many questions do we get.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
You guys got I would say at least I have
fifty questions at least right here.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Oh wow, that's a lot of questions. And those were
curated questions. We haven't seen them, by the way, but
we can't wait to answer what is on your mind.
But we wanted to share a little bit about what's
on our minds on this day. First. And you know,
I was thinking about starting over, and I was looking
up starting over in your forties and fifties, and so
many people, maybe some of you listening, have had to

(02:01):
do that or maybe will have to do it. And
anytime you have to start over, it's a daunting task.
And I think back to last December fifth, and there
were tears, there were fears. I was scared and excited
all at once. Do you remember how you feel or.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Felt December fifth of last year. I was frustrated, I
was pissed, I was nervous. That became fear later, But
it wasn't a celebratory a day at the time, because
we learned that they are still forces out there who

(02:37):
are after us no matter what we do, and our
success and our joy and our happiness and our future
is threatening and upsetting to some people. So that was
a big day for us a year ago, and others
chose to try to attack us on that day. Even so,
that's my honest answer. I was I and that's how
I was that day, and that was all kinds. We

(02:57):
had family stuff going on because of it. That was
some ugliness on December fifth last year, and nobody will
ever know, and we will never reveal, but it was
a difficult day, a very difficult day, and it shouldn't
have been.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
You know what, I don't know how I forgot about
all of that, but you're right, that marked so much
of the day, and I do believe looking back, and
we have had plenty of tough days in between, and
we still will have plenty of tough days going forward.
But it's what you learn along the way about what

(03:32):
you're made of and how you get through these things,
how we get through it together, which is challenging in moments,
but it's what brings us together in the end. And
I think, gosh, going through darkness gives you the perspective
of how great it feels to be in the light,
to be in the sunshine. And when you have those moments,

(03:52):
man lean into them, celebrate them. But I remember once
we got the first podcast launched on December fifth, then
became the real challenge of Okay, we're gonna have one
podcast a week. What do listeners want to hear from us?
What do we want to share with listeners? What is
our lane? Is it news? Is it interviews? Is it
personal insight? You know, we had all of these questions

(04:15):
swirling around, and we struggled initially with just coming up
with one podcast a week. Remember staring at each other
with our computers up at your dining room table, trying
to come up with ideas and feeling like we didn't
know what we were doing because we didn't know what
we were doing.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well, I question still if we have any frickin' idea
what we're doing. But this was a learn We are
very adept at broadcasting. We are trained, we are seasoned.
Right with those resumes, you can put us in front
of a microphone, and we know what to do. If
this was a case where we didn't actually know what

(04:54):
to do before getting to the microphone, and then to
some degree, we didn't know how comfortable to get on
the microphone. We didn't know how. I can give you
a hard time all the time about getting into broadcast modes,
but this is one place you cannot do that, and
we've experienced that as well. And we learned that in
conversations we've had in this very studio that wow, there's
a warmth here, there's an energy here. We got something

(05:15):
out of this interviewee that we never would have gotten
in a studio at a network. So there was a
huge learning curve and I am very much comfortable now.
But you talked about we struggled with one a week,
and now we're up to god knows how many.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, we're doing at least six a week, sometimes eight,
and even this week because we're taping a few ahead
of time, I think we're going to be doing nine
podcasts this week. So that makes me smile and laugh
and also want to go take a nap. What a
difference in your makes one a week seemed like a
daunting task, and now we're just churning out sometimes nine

(05:52):
a week.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
But again, not too long ago, we were wondering. We
were sitting around wondering when we would have anything to do. Again,
we're longing for some like, Wow, nobody's gonna want to
work with us, so what are we going to do next?
We had those questions, and now it seems I know
where you're coming from, obviously because I'm right next to
you through it. But it seems odd to complain a

(06:13):
single bit about being busy.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Oh please, I'm with you. I'm with you. I you
and I both said this from the beginning. Give us work,
Let's be busy. That's where we feel our strongest. But
I will say, and this is honest, I have not
worked this hard since I was in my twenties and thirties,
early on in my career, trying to prove myself, trying
to work my way up the ladder up to network news.

(06:38):
And so in a way, we are doing that again.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
No, I've always worked this hard.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
You did work harder than I did. It can work,
But you know, for me, I had gotten to a
place where I knew exactly what I needed to do,
and it wasn't just goodbye.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
I'm kidding, I'm sorry. I'm actually thrive.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I know, I know, but I would say that now
there was this new feeling of having to reprove myself.
I can only speak for me, but I felt.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
That and still do, which is always a mistake. Exactly
And when was the last time I gave you that line?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Probably earlier today?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
That line you talked about it when I looked at
you and I said, you have nothing to prove.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
You said that to me in the marathon when I
was very upset at feeling weak and sick and not
feeling strong and was worried about my time and worried
about ruining your time.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Nothing to prove to anybody.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
And that made my shoulders relax. On this podcast, either,
can you remind me of that daily? Because that would help.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I nothing improved.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I do feel like that still, for sure, because.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Well, where does that come from? I mean, what did
your mom do to you early on in life that
got you?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
He says that because just full disclosure here, my mom
and dad are actually visiting this week and my mom's
in the studio with us, so that was a little
a little fun Pope at Mama Roeboch. No, I didn't
feel that way until we went through what we went through,
and then you feel like you have to rebuild something

(08:08):
or you have to restart something, and we did, and
with that came this feeling of having to reprove I
don't know, not just professional worth, but personal worth. And
on a personal side, I think back to a year
ago and where we were, and that's phenomenal. We weren't.
We didn't spend Thanksgiving together, we didn't spend Christmas Eve

(08:30):
and Christmas Morning together because we were being respectful of
where our families were. But this year we were together,
all of us waking up in Thanksgiving morning, and that's
the plan for Christmas as well. And that is a
remarkable thing. And I learned I'm learning still always to
be more patient. I wanted people to meet me where

(08:53):
I was, instead of me being willing to meet them
where they were, and so being patient and letting people
find their way and accepting where they are. That's a
huge part of the process that I learned that I
know intellectually, but to actually put it into practice as
a whole other thing. And yes, I'm hungry. I don't
know if you can hear my stummach.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
You'll hear her stuff that was loud enough that it
might have picked up to go buy it back and checks. Right,
she's going through this whole thing. That's soliloquy. Let me
tell you about a life.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
You know it's and it's not to say we don't
have tough days. Still, we still have tough days. Everyone
out there, I think, if they're being honest, is having
tough days with their own selves and their relationships and
what's going on at work. But my thing that I've
been trying to do is I'm forcing myself to quiet

(09:52):
my mind when it starts thinking too much about the outcomes.
And that's my biggest problem, the outcome of this part,
the outcome of our relationship, that can really send you
into a mind spiral that isn't healthy. And so the
point is to focus on the present moment, right.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
I've learned that and had to put that in practice.
But it's it's really so they call it stop and
smell the roses. If you whatever is going on in
your life and your world, if you just stop and
just look, make eye contact with the person in front
of you and just listen to what they're saying. Just
be in the moment, you amazed at how just everything
else this life is just stay where you are it is.

(10:35):
It's a hard thing to do. It's the easiest thing
in the world to do. It sounds like, but it's
it's very difficult. But I've been practicing that for a while.
I think I got that from you originally one of
the books. Yeah, I mean you probably gave me early
on with either Michael Singer or Ekar Totley or one
of those guys. But but yeah, stand in the moment.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, and just the outcome is not ever what you're
gonna think it's gonna be anyway, So trying to prepare
for it or manipulate it so that you can get
what you want it doesn't ever work. But it's interesting.
I was looking up today, like I said, starting over
and gaining wisdom from having to start over, because a
lot of times people don't start over because they want to,

(11:16):
it's because they have to. And that certainly was our story.
And I found the story and I want to read
it to you because I found this to be so beautiful.
This was on a reddit, like some reddit I guess,
I don't know that I found and I just thought

(11:37):
it was such a cool story. Once a long time ago,
there was a wise zen master. People from far and
near would seek his counsel and ask for his wisdom.
Many would come and ask him to teach them, enlighten
them in the way of Zen. He seldom turned anyone away.
One day, an important man, a man used to command
and obedience, came to visit the master, and he said,

(11:59):
I have come to to ask you to teach me
about Zen, Open my mind to enlightenment. The tone of
the important man's voice was used, was one used to
getting his own way. The zen master smiled and said
that they should discuss the matter over a cup of tea.
When the tea was served, the master poured his visitor
a cup. He poured, and he poured, and the tea

(12:21):
rose to the rim and began to spill over the
table and finally onto the robes of the wealthy man. Finally,
the visitor shouted, enough, you are spilling the tea all over.
Can't you see the cup is full. The master stopped
pouring and smiled at his guest. You are like this
tea cup, so full that nothing more can be added.

(12:42):
Come back to me when the cup is empty, come
back to me with an empty mind. And that to
me was such a beautiful way of putting out there
that losing something, or even losing everything, actually can give
you a fresh start. And when I was looking at

(13:03):
these Reddit threads, someone talked about the story and talked
about their journey of having to start over, and he said,
my most important advice is empty your cup, leave your
ego behind, and be open to learning from and collaborating
with people half your age sometimes, but fill that cup
with new experiences. And he said, this is difficult. It

(13:23):
requires grit, determination, humility, and coping skills. And I have
learned more about myself this year than I have any
other year of my life, which is that I valued

(13:44):
things about myself that were fleeting, that were from outside sources,
that were about what I did or what I accomplished
versus who I am and how I treat people and
how I treat myself. And I had to admit that,
and that was hard. And now you have to learn
from it and grow from it and get excited about

(14:07):
this new chapter where you actually can value relationships with
yourself and with others above all else, because all that
other stuff that you were valuing all that other stuff
that you believed made you important or who you were
or created your worth. It all went away. And when
it all goes away, you're forced to actually just re

(14:30):
examine everything.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well, it keeps us from taking that examination before it's
taken from you. Isn't that the point is and that
the hope right, You shouldn't have to have it taken
away before you realize this isn't what you need or
want or your identity in the first place.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well, it's funny because, as you point out, I have
been reading these books over the years. I was doing
the work, so I thought. But it's very easy to
do the work when you're coming from a place of
empowerment or coming from a place of feeling like you're successful.
So it's easy to say, oh, right, But then when
actually the bottom drops out and then you actually have
to put all that into practice, it's another story. It

(15:06):
was for me.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Welcome back everybody to Amy and Tjr. And your anniversary
episode one year anniversary of this podcast. We launched it
a year ago, can you believe it?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
So?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
I think we started off. Within the first few podcasts
we had people ask us questions, so we had you
will send us some more. And they've been coming in
and our super producer Andy has curated a list for us.
It's gotten it down to fifty. Now we don't think
we're gonna get through all of the fifty. Well, it
depends if they rabbit fire. But Annie, you tell us

(15:47):
if you gave I they have names attached to them.
By all means let us know, but less far away.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
All right.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
The first question is a really nice one. It's very simple.
Maybe it's not once you start answering, it's how are
you guys doing?

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I would say good, but it depends on the day,
you know, And we're doing better. And I feel like
we are doing the work, because when you're in a
relationship it requires work. And I see us rolling up
our sleeves and sticking together and trying to figure this

(16:25):
out and wanting to get it right. And why, you know,
TJ is my best friend and he has been for
a long time, and that is always for me, the
best foundation to start from. And so I feel really
good about where we are and I think we're going
to get even better.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well that was that was a daunting answer.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
That was an honest answer.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Well, I didn't there was some, Uh, well, we are
apparently not doing as well as I thought after hearing
that response, But the how are you guys doing? I
would first answer, I'm happy and healthier than ever, and
that's kind of it. I don't I don't know. I'm

(17:08):
just in a mindset in a place where I appreciate
everything that comes with it's a challenge, it's a blessing.
Even the challenges are blessings and I get that. So
I don't know. I'm not sleeping well. My ra ring
has confirmed that I'm actually sleeping worse even than I thought,
So I'm trying to deal with that. But I'm doing

(17:30):
well all right.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Next question is what is the significance of the ring
around your neck? This listener says they sense a story.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I don't know that we're ready to share that, DJ.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's around your neck, so I didn't know where I
was gonna let you go first. But but yeah, I
think maybe one day we will. We might reveal. I
think somebody asked that last and we haven't given that
up yet, so well, something will keep sacred. We're gonna
hold onto that one.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
It was a nice try that we appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
I love a tease.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
All right.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
The next question is will you be on TV soon?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I like that, Yes, we very much, We very much
miss it. Okay.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Next one is t J. How is your achilles doing?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Not great? Oh man, I have a new issue now
with the ligament on top of the foot. The I'm
but I'm gonna be off of a four to six weeks.
Doctor told me a lot of people familiar with what
happened in Chicago couldn't finish that race because of an
achilles And now I have a possible torn ligament in
my foot, so not running for up to six weeks,

(18:44):
wearing a brace everywhere I go, and so I'm on
the mint but not running. Okay.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Next question is who would you want to be with
on a stranded island?

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Who would I want to be with on a stranded
island or read it, on a deserted island? Okay, there
we go. Uh duh, TJ.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
No, I'm trying to think of another and like, who
would I prefer to be with? And now no, no, no, no,
I'm trying to I'm digging here.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Maybe like your three favorite people, so this way, Amy's
one of them?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
No? Thanks? Is this because of the way I answered the.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
First question Obviously it's you. Obviously it's you. I'm just
trying to it's such an obvious answer that I'm trying
to think of what anything else come up? And I
don't think so. So I get along with better than you.
And I wouldn't want Sabine to be out there stranded
with me, right. She needs to be in school, all right.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
The next question is what is your favorite way to
spend a day off?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Mmm? Okay, well, I would love to start my day
off with a run. Then I'd love to go to
the movies with TJ. A horror movie and then have
a wonderful dinner where we're sitting out sitting at the bar,
belly up and laughing about the movie and what we saw.

(20:11):
And yeah, just the two of us, that would be
a perfect day for me.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
You know, I'm trying to take issue with anything in there.
Maybe I would insert, depending on the time of year,
an SEC football game.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
That would be great.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Maybe, Yeah, the only other thing I would put in there.
But we are very chill folks. We don't want to
run around. We don't even go to a museum. We've
been talking about a museum forever, but we just like
to be together, just to have good food, have good drinks,
sea good people, and enjoy good weather. That's u awesome.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
This next one is what's the craziest thing you've done
in the name of love?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
In the name of love, I don't know if I've
ever done anything in the name of love.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I don't think we've thought what we were doing was crazy.
But clearly choosing each other was probably the craziest thing
we've done. But that wasn't a choice of doing something crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
It wasn't didn't feel no, it did.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Not at all.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
It was crazy well thought out of love. Man, that's
a tough one. That's gonna take me a minute. In
the name of the love.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
You could say, if you look at both of our lives,
that the craziest thing we did was get married to
twenty three. But I don't know that was in the
name of friendship, same or duty or obligation. That was
really in the name of obligation crazy though.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Did you jump out of a plane? Did I make
a surprise trip? Did I streaked down the Vegas Boulevard?
That I did? I something? I did do all that
stuff though, but not really. I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
To share with me when we get.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Man that I'm the hate We got stumped this early.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I know I can't if it comes to us, we
will circle back. But right now that sounds so boring.
But I can't think of something I did that was
crazy in the name of love and it would probably
be with you in some way.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
She said, what does that make us if we don't
have anything? I mean, shouldn't everybody have that? It seems
like that.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
No, okay, oh running a marathon, Emma saying running a
marathon is crazy in the name of love. But you
did I did.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Oh, that wasn't crazy. Let me go on a limb
here and stay with the guy I love who's bombity
can't walk.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Sorry, babe, I really trained hard for this. I'll see
you love the medical tent.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
No, that was but thank you Amma forst.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Suggesting that that was crazy. But that was. Yeah. I
never even considered for one second not staying and not stop.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
We got to go back. Oh that was tough.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I feel like it.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Makes you seen and stable. It's not like you're throwing
about windows doing crazy things like that.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Wow, have you done anything like that?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I've never even, like I know people burn letters. I've
never done anything with.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
A key to guy's car.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Absolutely not. Do you think that I know, got nothing
even high school?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Though I'm going back and back and back.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
I know I'm trying to think crazy. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Sad Well, this one's going different about love, but not
as maybe crazy. But what has your perspective on love
and how has it changed over the years?

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Well?

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Change, Love is it's an it's not a passive it's
an active verb. Right. You have to show someone that
you love them. And I just don't think anymore that
love is some feeling like I just get overwhelmed. And
a lot of people say, oh, I just feed it,
that that whole thing, that feeling is fine with some

(23:59):
other things that have to come along with it. I
think I've I couldn't imagine I look back soon where
I am now. I can't imagine being at this point
ever being interested in people that I dated previously, some
folks I've dated previously, because it's just that doesn't make anything. No,
of course we're not a match. Of course I'm not
interested in that, and of course I'm not.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
So. Yeah, I've learned about love. I've learned how to
love because now I know what love is it's not
about you chasing the feeling of receiving love. It's about
giving it without expecting something in return. And that sounds obvious,

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but when you're actually in a relationship, if you think
about it, a lot of what we do is we're
doing things so that we can get love back, that
we can get something to make us feel good back.
And it almost is with strings attached, if I'm being honest.
But I've now felt like I know what it's like
to love someone even when it's hard, even when you

(25:06):
don't like them in the moment, or you're having a
tough day with them, to say I love them anyway,
and I'm gonna and I'm going to act in a way,
in a loving way, even if I don't feel it
in this moment. And to me, that is love, and
it is it's about the hard times. That's when you
actually I feel like I know how much I love you,

(25:27):
because even when it's hard, I feel so strongly and
I have so many loving feelings towards you, even if
I'm angry, hurt, or upset like that is a totally
new feeling for me, and that to me. I was
telling my mom this last night. Actually that that is
something I have not experienced before, and that is why
I do feel like this relationship I have with you

(25:49):
is something I've never experienced before.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Wow, well keep them coming, this is going well.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Tell us about your Thanksgiving with Amy's family, TJ.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
No. No, I wasn't with Robox family really for Thanksgiving.
I was with a Robox family a couple of weekends prior.
They had a death in the family. Unfortunately we had
to go back for but it happened that I ended
up meeting the family for the first time at a funeral,
And so I can tell you about that family, or

(26:37):
I can tell you about Thanksgiving. It's funny. But Thanksgiving
was great because we did have at least of course overseas,
but Ava two of her friends, Ben Montgomery, who's been
around I feel like I know her as well as
anybody these days. And then Sabine and the two of
us had a nice It was a wonderful, wonderful Thanksgiving.
And it was the first holiday that you and I

(27:00):
have had a chance to spend together. But to have
the girls there and just everybody knowing everybody, and the
food was great, the games were great, and it was
there was great.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
It was the first time either one of us had
ever cooked with someone else like our partner and prepared
the meal together. You did the turkey and the greens
and then I did the sides, and that was like,
that was really fun to be working alongside in the
kitchen with the person I love. Like that was a
really fun We had music playing.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, so we had a great Thanksgiving. Now the it
was it was wild. The meeting Robot's family. It was
the circumstances. Again, it was unfortunate we were there for
a funeral. But I did take it as a bit
of a blessing, Like, what other opportunity were we going
to get that I could see all of your family members,

(27:52):
because we do end up Thanksgiving or Christmas would probably
end up somewhere else, the girls somewhere, so it's probably
not likely we get back for a big family thing.
So I was I took it as a blessing to
be able to meet everybody in the in the family.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
And when you say everybody, there were a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
There's a bunch of folks.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
My mom's one of nine, and all the siblings were there, Yes,
all the siblings and all the cousins.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Frank, David, Paul, Steven, Patty, Kathy, Oh my dear Annie,
I love, There's Leslie. And then then that last one.
I can never remember who is it. It's Johnny, of
course that's her mom.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
That is impressive. You just like like totally went through
all those names without any hesitation.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I'm working on the spouses. I'm getting a few of them,
and I'm the cousins and the kids next.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
That's that's impressive.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Speaking of holidays, what are your plans for Christmas?

Speaker 1 (28:54):
So we because we have two New York City apartments
that are fairly small, so the only way that we
could all be together it would be too good a house.
We got a house upstate. All the girls are going
to be there. So this is momentous and historic and
excited it is. And we have a big fireplace. That
was the big That was the big draw. We had

(29:15):
to find a house with the fireplace. So we are
we are going upstate. We're just gonna kind of hunker
down and play games and make hot chocolate and make
memories really more than anything, all right.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Next question, was there a moment early on where you
thought the podcast was a mistake.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Oh? No, I actually never thought that. I think that's
part of it, right, grit, perseverance, that thing. There's something
in us. I don't know, but there was never a
moment where we we got frustrated plenty, but there was
never a moment where we thought we couldn't figure it out.
And we kept again, Andy, you know, as you own

(29:57):
these these text messages and our team they they're getting
stuff and we're firing off questions and please somebody help,
and so we are. We were always committed to figuring
this out and giving it a long run to not
just get frustrated. We are are people listening, Why didn't
they react to this? And they reacted to that. We
had to get away from that and just let it

(30:19):
be a steady, steady beat. And now we literally have
three podcasts that we put out regularly.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, and I the whole time, the first time we
sat in front of the mics, it felt right, It
felt good. I think even when things are swirling around
us outside of this room, when we come into this
room in front of the microphones, I feel at home,
I feel at peace, I feel happy. I always felt
like this was almost a haven for life to be

(30:45):
able to come and hear and either talk about other people,
or talk about issues, or do these fun quizzes, or
even talk and share things that are happening in our lives.
It feels right, so I never questioned. It always felt
like the best way to build a foundation back, to
restart our careers and to take them in a direction
that we hadn't anticipated but are really enjoying. All right.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
This next question is what is your favorite and least
favorite thing about podcasting?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Mmm.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
I think my least favorite is being the inability to
get guests in the studio all the time, because people
are just all over the place and it's hard to
catch them so and it's so easy to just get
somebody in front of a computer while come into a studio.
But I think I miss having it in the times
we've had it. We've loved having people in studio and
we've had them plenty, but I think I wish we

(31:40):
could have more face to face time with our guests.
That's my barber least favorite. The most favorite, I guess
the freedom. I mean we have a freedom now in
all we put out to to shape the outline the podcast,
but also just the information we think we should be delivering.

(32:04):
And we didn't always get that freedom. And now I'm
comfortable that we have enough experience in the business to
actually know how to put a rundown together, to know
how to point out to the viewers, what's the viewers,
the listeners, viewers coming to the listeners, what I don't know. Editorially,

(32:27):
I've appreciated being editorially in charge.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, that has been a new thing for us. That's
that has been very gratifying actually to be able to
make those choices as a producer. My least favorite part
of podcasting is the fact that it's not live. I
miss live broadcasting, and I love live broadcasting. With this guy,

(32:51):
there was so much fun and energy to knowing you
can't you can't edit it, you can take it back
and you've got to be on your toes and there's
something really fun and enner about that. So maybe that
means radio or doing something on television, but I do
miss the live element. So that's we try to do
that as much as possible here in the podcast. We
don't edit hardly anything, but there is that thing when

(33:13):
you know it's live, it's just got a little different.
Oh yeah, yeah, I know you miss it too.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Oh but it gives you that. I mean, it's just
a it's a rush knowing no matter what comes out
of your mouth, you gotta go with it. And it's
just that's why when I think you, I think you'll admit.
I'm not throwing you under the buzz here, but I
think you'll admit once you get into a recording mode
you stumble. You're like, oh, let's do it again. You
keep messing up because yeah, it totally gets in your

(33:40):
head and I'm the same way. But when it's live,
there will not be a stumble.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
I love that I missed it, and my favorite part
of podcasting just to be because I do like what
you said in terms of having the editorial control, but
I like that it's just you and me. I like
that you and I get to sit across the mics
from each other and just do what we do and

(34:06):
it's not really about the news of the day. Necessarily,
we do do that, but I feel like it's more
about us sharing and the dynamic between us. I've always
like my favorite thing about going to work every day
when I was at Network was getting to sit next
to you and have fun with you and enjoy what

(34:26):
we're talking about together. It's the I just I think,
and it's fun. In this environment. It feels intimate, it's
just the two of us, and I really appreciate it.
I look forward to recording every podcast every day.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Oh it's horrible. All right.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
The next question is, would you guys ever do a
reality show.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Under the right. Yeah, that's a big ask, is there
under what circumstances would have to be?

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Like if you asked us to do the Amazing Race
or something cool like that, where we you know, we
would consider, I think a reality show that was based
on something fun and active and adventurous. But if you
just want to have cameras in our apartments, that's a
big hell no, Like absolutely not what we just want
to have like you know, Life with Amy and TJ
behind the scene. No, but other reality shows possibly, That

(35:22):
is my answer.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
All right, This next one, I think out of all
of them, we got a million of this one. Actually,
when are you guys going to get married?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Look at the time, looks like we might have to
wait until the next episode to answer. This was the
most asked question.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Really the most Yeah, it was all over.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Look, let us give it some thought. We'll get back
to you.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Tune in Yeah, tune into the next episode. We'll have
our answer ready and we can't wait to answer that
question and all the other she said it
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