January 12, 2026 • 17 mins
“Yes, that’s what the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and President Trump want to know. The E.E.O.C chair took to social media to ask that very question, saying the commission - which was formed under the Civil Rights Act - wants to eliminate all forms of race discrimination, including against white male applicants and employees. President Trump went even further, telling the New York Times the Civil Rights Act resulted in the discrimination of white men.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, folks, it is Monday, January twelfth, and this isn't
necessarily the episode we planned on recording this evening, but
our thirteen year old walked into the house a little
while ago and showed us a video from TikTok that
made us rethink our plans. And so here we are
welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ one in
(00:32):
which we are talking robes about where we are in
this country in terms of a language which you can say,
which you can say, what words awful limits and to whom,
and how much racism you can seem to shout from
the mountaintops and it not be racism anymore. So let's
(00:52):
start first with the headlines everybody's been seeing about the
President and what he said to the New York Times
about reverse discriptination that's got everybody talking to it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yes, reverse discrimination.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
President Trump said that white people that Civil Rights era protections,
by the way, have resulted in white people being quote
very badly treated. Yes, he said that, and he directly
attributed it to the Civil Rights era, and that it
(01:24):
would be it became unfair that white people couldn't get
into certain colleges, they couldn't get certain jobs, so it
was reverse discrimination.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
And he said that.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
When he was asked about his anti woke policies if
he was trying to make Americle white, and he just said, well,
I just want to have people who love our country.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, So were you surprised to hear the president say this.
It's making headlines everywhere and folks are writing their opinion
pieces and people are giving their reactions and their videos
online at they're posting. But was this it's a shocking
statement to you?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It wasn't shocking coming from President Trump now because obviously
he his big anti woke campaign, his anti DEI campaign.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
All serves that purpose.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
So he's just stating what he's already taken action on.
He's just explaining the why behind it. But what other
why could there have been?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So it's not shocking.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I think what is shocking, though, is when you start
to see certain things on social media coming from the
administrations and particularly from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commissions.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's a Saturday Night Live skit that was shocking to me.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's a Saturday Night Lives sit it is it seems
so surreal.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So can we let you all know because I hadn't
seen this until you pointed it out to me, babe.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, this is a commission
that was formed in nineteen sixty five under the Civil
Rights Act. Well, there is a new commission chair under
President Trump. Her name is Andrea Lucas, and she put
this out on x This was a video and it
was a message to explain what the agency is focused on.
(03:09):
So Lucas says, this, are you a white male who
has experienced discrimination at work based on your race or sex.
You may have a claim to recover money under federal
civil rights laws. Contact the EEOC as soon as possible.
Time limits are typically strict for filing a claim. And
then she goes on to say the EEOC is committed
(03:31):
to identifying, attacking, and eliminating all forms of race and
sex discrimination, including against white male applicants and employees.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
That was shocking to me.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
That last part is usually reserved to call out including
our Asian American community, including the Latino community, including the
African American You're not used to seeing. At the end,
protect everyone, including the white folks, not.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Even white folks, white men in particular.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Who have in this country, without a doubt, been the
top of the top of the food chain.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Look at every boardroom, look at every person with power,
and almost all of them singularly are white men.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And we have now turned white men into a class,
a protected class, who've been discriminated against, who are being
discriminated against. This is not new, This is not surprising.
This is something that Jdvans in particular has talked about.
But this is something they've been going this direction. It
(04:42):
is offensive that any time. This is something that we've
joked about amongst ourselves sometimes as black folks, but it
is difficult when you make it up the chain, When
you make it to the upper level, the top floor
of someplace, and you're the only black person on that floor,
you look around in other people look at you and think, well,
the only reason you're here is not because of your ability,
(05:03):
it's because we need a diversity, right. And this idea,
now as you talk about white men, is all with
that undercurrent of if you are black, and if you
are ahead of that white man, or even equal to
that white man in your career, then you're actually inferior
because you're only here because of this or that. That
(05:26):
part of all this.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You've kept through another white man from the position he
rightfully should have been. You never heard it exactly exactly,
and you spoke about JD. Vance and he went on
to X and actually, yes, got very specific said he
blamed all of these diversity initiatives for depriving white men
of opportunities. His quote is a lot of people think
(05:48):
DEI is lame diversity seminars or racial slogans at NFL games.
In reality, it was a deliberate program of discrimination, primarily
against white men. So instead of it promoting and giving
opportunity to people who had been shut out because of
the color of their skin, No, it wasn't that. It
(06:10):
was to punish, to discriminate against white men. That is
what our administration is saying and selling.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You know, I was dragging into a lawsuit in my career.
I think I told you this when earlier in my career,
when because a white man sued because he lost his
job and I got hired, and this was the exact thing.
I had to sit across from a white lawyer for
three hours and defend my worth on planet Earth in
a lawsuit. So this idea really robes is a difficult
(06:47):
one to stomach. And the way the New York I
put it down here the way the New York Times
put it. I'm sorry I lost that. Yes, President Trump
has equated diversity with incompetence and inferiority. That's it. Wow,
your equated diversity. If you're diversity, that means you're incompetent
(07:08):
and inferior. You're only here because somebody needs to meet
a quota or betaverse. We deal with it every day,
and something like this in the headline. It's not surprising,
and a lot of people jumped on it, And I
just hope we don't because we could have gone on
and popped off. But I just I hope for better.
We too often in these cases robes, don't we We
(07:31):
end up talking about him instead of talking about what
he said. There's nothing we are going to say. There's
no way you can clap back or throw any history
at him or his followers who are going to give
a damn. It doesn't matter what the numbers show and
throw the numbers about discrimination. It doesn't matter to them.
But why aren't we talking a little better? Why not
(07:52):
have a better and a more civil conversation about that
thing which is real, which is do you look at
people on your floor who are black and think they're
there because they work just as hard or they earned
it like you did. How do you view people in
those positions? It happens in every single office, It absolutely does,
(08:14):
and that it gives us a chance to have a
more civil conversation instead of just trying to beat down
something else.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
The President's said, Yes, and look, I do appreciate how
measured Derek Johnson was in light of all of this.
He was interviewed by the New York Times, and he
could have said a lot of things, he's the president
of the NAACP, but he just simply said, I thought
he was very measured. No evidence, there is no evidence
that white men were discriminated against as a result of
(08:41):
the Civil Rights Movement, the Civil Rights Act, and efforts
to rectify the long history of this country denying access
to people based on race in every measurable category.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yes, and do we is anyone listening? Is anyone a
part of this conversation right now? Really help the pale
leaf that white men as a whole have suffered because
of the Civil Rights Act, that they generally are a
discriminated against class of people. White men.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I think they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
They are talking about universities and certain quota systems about
who can get in.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And how many white men are allowed into.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I mean, this is all I can see them pointing
to that and certain yes job promotions. Those are the
like where you have mandatory you have to fill X
amount of spaces or titles or positions with certain people
of color, and so that's what they're pointing to.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And they just want a merit based system.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
But the problem is is, you know, we're not all
on even ground, period.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Man, What are we going to do? Where are we?
And you mentioned the and I have it up here
in front of me. I forgot to mention this when
you were talking about a second ago, and it's still
here in my face. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission that
you were speaking of. Yes, I happened to go to
their website today. I just wanted to check it out.
On their front page. As soon as I clicked on it,
(10:15):
there was a banner that says DEI related discrimination, What
to do if you experience.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
It DEI discrimination. So that is a direct shout out
to white men and encouraging them to report it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I've never I've never seen this before in my life,
and I honestly never thought I would. It's that shocking
to me when I actually sit down and think about that,
that is out there a call a shout out to
white men, let us know if you've been discriminated against
because you're a white man. That actually becomes funny to me.
And maybe people will tell me that that's not funny.
(11:02):
And I don't know what I'm talking about, but I
just can base this off of my experience.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
In the world. That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But that's not all we found. On that Equal Employment
Opportunity Commission website will tell you what else is there
and where do we go from here? All right? We
(11:32):
continue here on Amy and TJ The Big Headlines. President
Trump does an interview with The New York Times and
at some point saying that the Civil Rights Act actually
ended up doing some bad things for white people. It
treated some people very badly. You know what, we didn't
mention and I should. I am so so sorry. He
(11:53):
also said in here, yes quote, I think it was
also at the same time a pumplished some very wonderful things,
but it also hurt a lot of people. People that
did I wanted to make sure we got that in
the Diday.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You know, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I did say that it accomplished some very wonderful things,
but it also hurt a lot of people. People that
deserve to go to a college or deserve to get
a job were unable to get a job.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So it was it was a reverse discrimination.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
A lot of people. How many does that mean, I
don't know, but it's a Somebody somewhere is hearing this
who is upset about where they are in their life,
what's happening in their home, the type of home they're in,
the type of car their drive, and how much money
they make, and they're hearing their president say, man, this
is the problem. These folks over here hurt you in
(12:46):
your career with this stuff. What an easy out. I
hate that as an He's given too many people an excuse.
And the president is saying.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Hey, well yeah, when you also go on a fishing
expedition to try and encourage a group of people who
have I'm sorry but generally speaking, have always been in
a position of power and ask all of them to
say if they've experienced any discrimination based on the color
(13:16):
of their skin aka been passed up for a job
that you thought you deserved, but someone else got it.
And if that's someone else who got it, wasn't a
white man, Bam, you were discriminated against. I mean, that's
a scary sentiment to suggest to someone you can go
back in your life and think, yeah, you know what,
I was the most qualified or I was the hardest worker.
(13:39):
Why did that person why did she get it? Why
did that person of color get it? And all of
a sudden, it's not your fault? How tempting? How delicious
is that to think, Wow, I got robbed of something.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'm owed.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Now I'm not going to feel bad about not getting
that position. I'm going to say it wasn't my fault.
It was your fault and your woke policies. Oh my god,
that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's very tempting.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Oh yeah, and look if they have been folks are
being told that that is okay, and that is legitimate gripe.
Right now. The other thing about the equal opportunity I
did refresh, and there's another banner there. I was. This
was sport for me, I did say. Now, the other
ones that report anti American employment bias report anti American
(14:25):
employment bias under that it says they have resources to
help employees or job seekers identify and report unlawful national
origin discrimination. Now national origin discrimination is legit, but they
focused it all on America.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
So basically, if someone who was born in another country
gets a job over you, that's anti American discrimination.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And that's, my gosh, pretty good.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That is scary.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Now.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
You started off.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
The podcast talking about coming home, Yes, Yes, and showing
us a TikTok tick talker named Benny.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, and you know, maybe I shouldn't have. The name
is out there at this point everywhere, and it's everywhere,
but we had no idea who this guy fifteen years
old was. Yes, And she explained that some fifteen year
old was out there and he dropped the N word
in a in a in a video and it was posted.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
And it wasn't that he was singing along with lyrics
that that's okay and even you know something like that
it was. She was like, no, he just said it.
And the scary thing is the reason why he said he.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Could say I didn't get I didn't say.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I feel like that is referencing where we are, this
whole anti woke campaign. You can't tell us what we
can say. We're not going to be discriminated against us
white men. If I want to say the N word,
that's where twenty twenty six, that's where we are.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That's how I took that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
It crushed my mood when she showed me that, because
we were both kind of shocked and the kind of upbeat,
and I saw it in my just my heart sank.
The idea of don't know this young man and where
he's from and what he's about, and if he's a
good kid, whatever it may be. But to see someone
say to camera in such an arrogant way, and who's
(16:21):
only been on this earth for fifty.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Years, has no idea.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
To say, I don't care. He teed it up, I
don't care. I'm gonna say it and just.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Drops y'all can cancel me. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And that's just terrifying that the.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
How suddenly there's a feeling of being emboldened, of being
supported to say things that normally would have absolutely been
not just inappropriate, but just devastating.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Horlmost now celebrated. You know what you made me. Just
think of the woman can't remember where she was called
the baby on the playground, the world. What she got
up to seven eight hundred.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Just shows you there are, yes, there is there are
people out there who absolutely are applauding this and.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Feel fine, why not go ahead dropping in words. No,
we just wanted to hop on on this one, folks.
This isn't the one we planned, but thanks Sabine. All Right,
we're gonna hop in here and try to find some
more story ideas from Sabina on TikTok over now.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
T J.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Holmes alongside Amy Robot will talk to Yilson
Hey, folks, it is Monday, January twelfth, and this isn't
necessarily the episode we planned on recording this evening, but
our thirteen year old walked into the house a little
while ago and showed us a video from TikTok that
made us rethink our plans. And so here we are
welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ one in
(00:32):
which we are talking robes about where we are in
this country in terms of a language which you can say,
which you can say, what words awful limits and to whom,
and how much racism you can seem to shout from
the mountaintops and it not be racism anymore. So let's
(00:52):
start first with the headlines everybody's been seeing about the
President and what he said to the New York Times
about reverse discriptination that's got everybody talking to it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yes, reverse discrimination.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
President Trump said that white people that Civil Rights era protections,
by the way, have resulted in white people being quote
very badly treated. Yes, he said that, and he directly
attributed it to the Civil Rights era, and that it
(01:24):
would be it became unfair that white people couldn't get
into certain colleges, they couldn't get certain jobs, so it
was reverse discrimination.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
And he said that.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
When he was asked about his anti woke policies if
he was trying to make Americle white, and he just said, well,
I just want to have people who love our country.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, So were you surprised to hear the president say this.
It's making headlines everywhere and folks are writing their opinion
pieces and people are giving their reactions and their videos
online at they're posting. But was this it's a shocking
statement to you?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It wasn't shocking coming from President Trump now because obviously
he his big anti woke campaign, his anti DEI campaign.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
All serves that purpose.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
So he's just stating what he's already taken action on.
He's just explaining the why behind it. But what other
why could there have been?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So it's not shocking.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I think what is shocking, though, is when you start
to see certain things on social media coming from the
administrations and particularly from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commissions.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's a Saturday Night Live skit that was shocking to me.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's a Saturday Night Lives sit it is it seems
so surreal.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So can we let you all know because I hadn't
seen this until you pointed it out to me, babe.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, this is a commission
that was formed in nineteen sixty five under the Civil
Rights Act. Well, there is a new commission chair under
President Trump. Her name is Andrea Lucas, and she put
this out on x This was a video and it
was a message to explain what the agency is focused on.
(03:09):
So Lucas says, this, are you a white male who
has experienced discrimination at work based on your race or sex.
You may have a claim to recover money under federal
civil rights laws. Contact the EEOC as soon as possible.
Time limits are typically strict for filing a claim. And
then she goes on to say the EEOC is committed
(03:31):
to identifying, attacking, and eliminating all forms of race and
sex discrimination, including against white male applicants and employees.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
That was shocking to me.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
That last part is usually reserved to call out including
our Asian American community, including the Latino community, including the
African American You're not used to seeing. At the end,
protect everyone, including the white folks, not.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Even white folks, white men in particular.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Who have in this country, without a doubt, been the
top of the top of the food chain.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Look at every boardroom, look at every person with power,
and almost all of them singularly are white men.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And we have now turned white men into a class,
a protected class, who've been discriminated against, who are being
discriminated against. This is not new, This is not surprising.
This is something that Jdvans in particular has talked about.
But this is something they've been going this direction. It
(04:42):
is offensive that any time. This is something that we've
joked about amongst ourselves sometimes as black folks, but it
is difficult when you make it up the chain, When
you make it to the upper level, the top floor
of someplace, and you're the only black person on that floor,
you look around in other people look at you and think, well,
the only reason you're here is not because of your ability,
(05:03):
it's because we need a diversity, right. And this idea,
now as you talk about white men, is all with
that undercurrent of if you are black, and if you
are ahead of that white man, or even equal to
that white man in your career, then you're actually inferior
because you're only here because of this or that. That
(05:26):
part of all this.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You've kept through another white man from the position he
rightfully should have been. You never heard it exactly exactly,
and you spoke about JD. Vance and he went on
to X and actually, yes, got very specific said he
blamed all of these diversity initiatives for depriving white men
of opportunities. His quote is a lot of people think
(05:48):
DEI is lame diversity seminars or racial slogans at NFL games.
In reality, it was a deliberate program of discrimination, primarily
against white men. So instead of it promoting and giving
opportunity to people who had been shut out because of
the color of their skin, No, it wasn't that. It
(06:10):
was to punish, to discriminate against white men. That is
what our administration is saying and selling.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You know, I was dragging into a lawsuit in my career.
I think I told you this when earlier in my career,
when because a white man sued because he lost his
job and I got hired, and this was the exact thing.
I had to sit across from a white lawyer for
three hours and defend my worth on planet Earth in
a lawsuit. So this idea really robes is a difficult
(06:47):
one to stomach. And the way the New York I
put it down here the way the New York Times
put it. I'm sorry I lost that. Yes, President Trump
has equated diversity with incompetence and inferiority. That's it. Wow,
your equated diversity. If you're diversity, that means you're incompetent
(07:08):
and inferior. You're only here because somebody needs to meet
a quota or betaverse. We deal with it every day,
and something like this in the headline. It's not surprising,
and a lot of people jumped on it, And I
just hope we don't because we could have gone on
and popped off. But I just I hope for better.
We too often in these cases robes, don't we We
(07:31):
end up talking about him instead of talking about what
he said. There's nothing we are going to say. There's
no way you can clap back or throw any history
at him or his followers who are going to give
a damn. It doesn't matter what the numbers show and
throw the numbers about discrimination. It doesn't matter to them.
But why aren't we talking a little better? Why not
(07:52):
have a better and a more civil conversation about that
thing which is real, which is do you look at
people on your floor who are black and think they're
there because they work just as hard or they earned
it like you did. How do you view people in
those positions? It happens in every single office, It absolutely does,
(08:14):
and that it gives us a chance to have a
more civil conversation instead of just trying to beat down
something else.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
The President's said, Yes, and look, I do appreciate how
measured Derek Johnson was in light of all of this.
He was interviewed by the New York Times, and he
could have said a lot of things, he's the president
of the NAACP, but he just simply said, I thought
he was very measured. No evidence, there is no evidence
that white men were discriminated against as a result of
(08:41):
the Civil Rights Movement, the Civil Rights Act, and efforts
to rectify the long history of this country denying access
to people based on race in every measurable category.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yes, and do we is anyone listening? Is anyone a
part of this conversation right now? Really help the pale
leaf that white men as a whole have suffered because
of the Civil Rights Act, that they generally are a
discriminated against class of people. White men.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I think they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
They are talking about universities and certain quota systems about
who can get in.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And how many white men are allowed into.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I mean, this is all I can see them pointing
to that and certain yes job promotions. Those are the
like where you have mandatory you have to fill X
amount of spaces or titles or positions with certain people
of color, and so that's what they're pointing to.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And they just want a merit based system.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
But the problem is is, you know, we're not all
on even ground, period.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Man, What are we going to do? Where are we?
And you mentioned the and I have it up here
in front of me. I forgot to mention this when
you were talking about a second ago, and it's still
here in my face. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission that
you were speaking of. Yes, I happened to go to
their website today. I just wanted to check it out.
On their front page. As soon as I clicked on it,
(10:15):
there was a banner that says DEI related discrimination, What
to do if you experience.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
It DEI discrimination. So that is a direct shout out
to white men and encouraging them to report it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I've never I've never seen this before in my life,
and I honestly never thought I would. It's that shocking
to me when I actually sit down and think about that,
that is out there a call a shout out to
white men, let us know if you've been discriminated against
because you're a white man. That actually becomes funny to me.
And maybe people will tell me that that's not funny.
(11:02):
And I don't know what I'm talking about, but I
just can base this off of my experience.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
In the world. That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But that's not all we found. On that Equal Employment
Opportunity Commission website will tell you what else is there
and where do we go from here? All right? We
(11:32):
continue here on Amy and TJ The Big Headlines. President
Trump does an interview with The New York Times and
at some point saying that the Civil Rights Act actually
ended up doing some bad things for white people. It
treated some people very badly. You know what, we didn't
mention and I should. I am so so sorry. He
(11:53):
also said in here, yes quote, I think it was
also at the same time a pumplished some very wonderful things,
but it also hurt a lot of people. People that
did I wanted to make sure we got that in
the Diday.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You know, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I did say that it accomplished some very wonderful things,
but it also hurt a lot of people. People that
deserve to go to a college or deserve to get
a job were unable to get a job.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So it was it was a reverse discrimination.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
A lot of people. How many does that mean, I
don't know, but it's a Somebody somewhere is hearing this
who is upset about where they are in their life,
what's happening in their home, the type of home they're in,
the type of car their drive, and how much money
they make, and they're hearing their president say, man, this
is the problem. These folks over here hurt you in
(12:46):
your career with this stuff. What an easy out. I
hate that as an He's given too many people an excuse.
And the president is saying.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Hey, well yeah, when you also go on a fishing
expedition to try and encourage a group of people who
have I'm sorry but generally speaking, have always been in
a position of power and ask all of them to
say if they've experienced any discrimination based on the color
(13:16):
of their skin aka been passed up for a job
that you thought you deserved, but someone else got it.
And if that's someone else who got it, wasn't a
white man, Bam, you were discriminated against. I mean, that's
a scary sentiment to suggest to someone you can go
back in your life and think, yeah, you know what,
I was the most qualified or I was the hardest worker.
(13:39):
Why did that person why did she get it? Why
did that person of color get it? And all of
a sudden, it's not your fault? How tempting? How delicious
is that to think, Wow, I got robbed of something.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'm owed.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Now I'm not going to feel bad about not getting
that position. I'm going to say it wasn't my fault.
It was your fault and your woke policies. Oh my god,
that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's very tempting.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Oh yeah, and look if they have been folks are
being told that that is okay, and that is legitimate gripe.
Right now. The other thing about the equal opportunity I
did refresh, and there's another banner there. I was. This
was sport for me, I did say. Now, the other
ones that report anti American employment bias report anti American
(14:25):
employment bias under that it says they have resources to
help employees or job seekers identify and report unlawful national
origin discrimination. Now national origin discrimination is legit, but they
focused it all on America.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
So basically, if someone who was born in another country
gets a job over you, that's anti American discrimination.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And that's, my gosh, pretty good.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That is scary.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Now.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
You started off.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
The podcast talking about coming home, Yes, Yes, and showing
us a TikTok tick talker named Benny.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, and you know, maybe I shouldn't have. The name
is out there at this point everywhere, and it's everywhere,
but we had no idea who this guy fifteen years
old was. Yes, And she explained that some fifteen year
old was out there and he dropped the N word
in a in a in a video and it was posted.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
And it wasn't that he was singing along with lyrics
that that's okay and even you know something like that
it was. She was like, no, he just said it.
And the scary thing is the reason why he said he.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Could say I didn't get I didn't say.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I feel like that is referencing where we are, this
whole anti woke campaign. You can't tell us what we
can say. We're not going to be discriminated against us
white men. If I want to say the N word,
that's where twenty twenty six, that's where we are.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That's how I took that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
It crushed my mood when she showed me that, because
we were both kind of shocked and the kind of upbeat,
and I saw it in my just my heart sank.
The idea of don't know this young man and where
he's from and what he's about, and if he's a
good kid, whatever it may be. But to see someone
say to camera in such an arrogant way, and who's
(16:21):
only been on this earth for fifty.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Years, has no idea.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
To say, I don't care. He teed it up, I
don't care. I'm gonna say it and just.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Drops y'all can cancel me. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And that's just terrifying that the.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
How suddenly there's a feeling of being emboldened, of being
supported to say things that normally would have absolutely been
not just inappropriate, but just devastating.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Horlmost now celebrated. You know what you made me. Just
think of the woman can't remember where she was called
the baby on the playground, the world. What she got
up to seven eight hundred.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Just shows you there are, yes, there is there are
people out there who absolutely are applauding this and.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Feel fine, why not go ahead dropping in words. No,
we just wanted to hop on on this one, folks.
This isn't the one we planned, but thanks Sabine. All Right,
we're gonna hop in here and try to find some
more story ideas from Sabina on TikTok over now.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
T J.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
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