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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin
an iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome to you, and that's why you
really missed ask me anything part I don't know, we've
done asked me anythings with Ryan and what kind of
and Jane and are So this is version one thousand. Yeah,
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that's just another one, another one. Okay, thank you for
submitting all your questions. Again, we got thousands, so many questions.
So many do you need to despite some people just
write in people's names. It's like Cord Danna darn right. Okay,
that's not a question. But yes, I agree. Um, let's
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let's let's just speed round, Jenna, let's get to as
many of these as possible. Whoa, Okay, let's go. Yeah,
let's give the people what they want. Jenna. Were you
aware of all the Glee merch? We were not. I mean,
there are some things that we saw and obviously on
or we saw some things, but um, the amount of
things that I'm learning about now that are out there, it's, um,
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it's mind blowing. So no, I was not. I was not. Um, Kevin, Yes,
what song would Artie and Tina sing if there was
a reboot? Oh oh um, oh man, what god, what
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do you think? Um? I don't hear what were we
sign good together on? Well? What's in the top forty
right now? I mean, oh, I don't know, Like I
would love that would be funny. Yeah, I think you're right.
I think you're probably right. That's yeah. You know, sometimes
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it's just you hear it and you're like, oh yeah,
of course. Um did the cast ever break while filming
where you had to stop so you could stop laughing? Absolutely,
but not that often. The one that comes to mind
for me is fix You. Yes see, this is why
we tried not to happen have it happened, because we
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would get in trouble. We do get in trouble. We
were filming Fix You, and that has to do this,
like you know, he's the lead on vocal on it,
and we're in the background doing the ooze, and we
all decided to do basically what Leah's bad singing from
Laryngite is, but all off key behind Matt as he's
got a cry and we're all futzing around because like
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we don't have anything to do really, and we are
singing really poorly. Everybody is laughing so hard. Our shoulders
are shaking, probably probably see it. And because everyone else
was actually keeping their faces and everything was fine, I
was the one whose shoulders were like convulsive and I
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couldn't had nowhere else to go. I didn't know what
to do. She's like Kevin, like she was right behind me.
It's got so mad at us, and I was crying.
I was. There were tears stream I mean tears streamed
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on your face. Doing is directed Kevin. Do you have
any anger towards Ryan for how hard you worked? I
can only speak for me. I don't. I think with
the hindsight, I was always very of the mind, and
I think maybe this is probably the wrong mentality, just
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because of how I grew up at a young age
in the music business of just say yes and be
grateful for the work, and if they're running you into
the ground, it's fine. I was so happy to have
a paycheck and be able to afford rent, and you know,
all those sorts of things. I think we've had really
good conversations with him now where he looks back in
hindsight and realizes how it did not need to be
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the way that it was. But I don't know. I
am empathetic towards you are a showrunner slash writer, and
then all of a sudden you are put in charge
of this billion dollar brand, and I don't think correct
anyone is trained for that, and I don't think that's
ever going to be perfect. Now does that mean? I
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don't know? I don't know. I feel like there's a
gray area and thereof everybody could have been better, done better.
But I don't have any sort of anger towards him
for that. Well said, you know, did you do you
have any anger towards him or do you just want
to let me answer that? No, I you know, I didn't.
I don't think I had anger towards him about that.
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I think the bigger thing for me was like when
he kind of went away, right and he had to
go do his other stuff, and it felt like the
show kind of faltered because when he went in some ways,
and now that we've had these you know, wonderful honest
chats with him, and as you said, like he wasn't
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equipped or traded. There was no camp to go to
how to show run, you know, and like manage a
billion or multimillion dollar show. I definitely feel like I've
found my um my closure and my like kind of
therapy with him and being able to share our honest,
you know, feelings of where we all were. So I mean,
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he's not lying when he says when he comes on
here and says, this is like therapy working at all
out in real time. Well, and also there's just no
mental there was no talk of mental health in the workplace,
like we keep saying that, Like had that been a thing,
I think we all would have been able to have honest,
open conversations where it didn't come from a place where
you're like, I'm complaining, I'm not ungrateful, I'm feeling so
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because back then it felt like because we were in
such a position of privilege in many ways that if
we were complaining, we were assholes, you know, and like
how dare you? So that was kind of the it's
just a different time. Yeah. It's also something like we're
a part of a union, like actors are in SAG
after and it's like they're the amount of people who
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are actually working regularly within that union is very small,
and so to get any opportunity to do work and
have consistent work, you just feel like I have to
just say yes to it because it is so rare
that you get a job, and you get a job
that you keep getting to do for six years. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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There was another question sort of relevant to that, one
of how how many days a week did we shooting? For?
How many hours a day? Oh my gosh. Yeah, So
I would say the earlier seasons, I think we're a
bit crazier. As it went on, we sort of as
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there was New York in Ohio. You know, schedules were split,
so it wasn't as bad. But the first couple of
seasons we were working regularly I would say fifteen hours
a day, fifteen, sometimes up to seventeen, but regularly I
would say fifteen. Well, and additionally we were also shooting
a long beach for all of our musical numbers, so
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it was like a forty hour minute drive for most people.
That was the average each way, each way, and so
it was just very it felt very aggressive, and we
were just I remember so vividly, just constantly hitting my
pillow at night and feeling like when I opened my
eyes like no time had passed. Yeah, you just close
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your eyes open as you back to work, You're like
where am I? And it was crazy and how it
works with those things too. So you start on a Monday,
you start early usually you know, five or six am,
and then you have a certain number of hours you're
allowed to work before the crew cast get overtime. And
so what happens is the days start to get later
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as the week goes on, because you have to have
a certain amount of time from when an actor is
wrapped for the day. You're just to have twelve hours
before they're allowed back onto set, and if you need
to fudge that rule, you have to pay for it.
There's a penalty for it, so they try not to
do that. So therefore, by the end of the week
on Friday, we could be starting up one pm. And
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what does that mean. That means we're going at least
until one am Faturday. Faturday, and usually we go late later.
And so while we technically didn't shoot on the weekends,
we only shot five days a week, we still then
had to be there at six am or earlier on Monday.
So I'm like, if you're getting home at three or
four am on a Friday night, your day Saturday is
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sort of like a half day because you're sleeping in
to recover. I just remember having the luxury of being
able to sleep in where most of our crew had
family least, that's the time you spend with your family,
so like you go home at three, you wake up
at six seven to be with your family, and then
you go back to work again on Monday at five
or six. It's just it's a vicious the energy human
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industry is really hard fron especially on crews like that
because they're the ones who are there all the time.
And for us as a Glee cast, we kind of
worked like the crew because we were all in every
scene all the time or rehearsing or recording or having
more job fittings. So yeah, that was it was a
lot in the beginning. Did you use stand ins a lot?
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So the way it works, we're stand ins. There's always
stand ins for the principal actors. So if Tina n
Lardy are in a scene, say like um, I don't
know the episode dream on, they're in a scene, your
standing is always there working and a lot of the
time the stand in will get the job and then
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keep the job for our show. And so it's a
really solid, insistent work because you know, as long as
the show is running and you're available, like you're working
for as seeing Tina's stand in or already stand in
and yeah, shout out to Kim and somehow you know,
it varies sometimes, but yeah, the standings are always on
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set and then they kind of sit off in when
we're working and shooting. And then when we're getting ready
for a scene and they're lighting the scene, that's when
the stand ins are there standing in our place. Literally, yes,
there's a stand in. And then usually when we get
to then because what happens if we rehearse the scene
and then we go get ready, like Jenna said, and
when the stands are there and they're lighting it, sometimes
there are little changes to the blocking and so then
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we get to set after we're all prepared and dressed
and makeup and all that, and then they fill us
in sort of on what the changes may or may
not be. And then each time there's a new camera setup,
if the camera moves to a different part of the room, whatever,
then again standings come back in and we leave so
they can work. Do you have a favorite competition song? Oh,
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you know, I have a soft spot for Oh God,
what is the one you and Darren did? What have um?
Boston m a feeling a feeling, yeah, not what a feeling,
um more than a feeling, more than a feeling. I
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think you guys smashed that and also like that whole
number was very emotional for a number of reasons. Yes, yes,
we have like the tribute to Finn in it, and
that I was going to say that's my favorite was
still having found what I'm looking for. And that's also
when we found out Marco, my ex boyfriend, was coming
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back to America because he had been trapped out of
the country and we were singing the song America. I
literally got off the phone with his mom and she
told me his like his green car was approved after
he had been trapped out of the country for three
and a half years. And it was so late at night,
and we were so tired, and I had to get
back on stage and I just shouted to everyone because
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everyone was in on it. They everyone knew the situation,
and we were shooting America Wow, and the song I
did not love. And then you better believe I was
shouting that number out loud like I was going So
that's and yeah, I think that was probably my favorite
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set of Yeah, that's funny. I love that one. Yeah, great.
We had a lot of fun doing those with that
new crew. Is there any chance that tell Him gets released?
I picked that one, Kevin, because I know how much
you love it and I thought that was really funny. Wait,
can I do something I legal right now? Are you
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gonna play? Can I play it off of my phone?
I don't know, but I feel like if you play
just like three seconds, we won't get in trouble? Right?
Which part should I play? I'm gonna play? Don't know, honestly,
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I'm getting so trouble, but you don't know what you're missing?
What a number? I'm gonna sad like some sort of
SoundCloud and just put it on there. Um and also
love the way you lying, which I'm not gonna Oh
my god, it's so good. Um. Do you have a
playlist of your favorite lay songs? Okay? Um? I don't,
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But do you think we should make Let's make one? Okay,
I inspired? How do we do that? How do we
make a proper Glee playlist for everyone? We're gonna do that.
And that's what you really missed favorites? Okay. I did
go on like a Twitter listening spree a while back,
like a late night and I'm through all the seasons
of like my favorites and like live tweeted them. Oh
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and we're just like I sounded like shit on this one. Oh, listen,
I sounded pretty good. We should do that, um, like
a listening party. I actually recently started in the car.
I get coffee in the mornings sometimes with Emma and
I go and get like a coffee out in the
world and I will. There's a Spotify is just ugly
all the seasons like in a row, and so I
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scroll through those and I pick them. So we should
do that, all right. What do your go to? Um? Well,
Never Going Back Again is one? Really yeah? Um Dog
Days is another. Um. I just listened to Bridge Over
Trouble Water, um and some Madonna definitely like but and
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then um and what's the one we did? The friend one?
Um never? Yeah? Yeah, I love how we sound on
that one. I love Yeah, it's really good. It's a
good one. Okay. What are your song of your gots?
I do Breakaway a lot lately. That's that's like the
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past year or so. That's really been I love it.
I don't know why I do. I do the hundred
episode version of a Loser, like me, Wow, Kevin, Yeah,
it's I mean, it's selfish, it's narcissistic. I just know
I like the harmonies and the runs that Luke Edgemond
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had me doing, and it's some of those things. But
you know, I'm just like I used to be able
to sing right some of those. I was like, wow,
I remember when I was like I got to go
into a professional booth and like be produced like really
well and like beautifully, And you're like, oh, that was cool.
I'm gonna go listen some paces after this. Okay, which
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style of temas did you like best? Oh? My gosh, well,
which one did I hate the most? There was a
season I think it was before season thing. I think
this season two. At the steampunk it's just a lot
of lace and a lot of buttons, and I remember
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at some point being so miserable I wanted to cut
myself out of this dress. And I think I looked
at you maybe or somebody, and I said, something's gotta change.
Something's gotta change. And I talked a little about it,
and she was like I was just thinking the same thing,
like maybe we can do black a little black dresses
and like dress them up with accessories. So they're more comfortable.
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And I just thought, like, God, if we're going to
be here for six more years or five more years,
I can't keep doing this. This is so hard, and
it's you're in it for so long during the days
and you're under bright lights and the makeup it was
just it was really bad. So Steve Punk was my
least favorite. UM. I liked the mod Gina like when
she had the color blocking dresses later later in time,
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I thought that was really fun, what a great evolution.
You know. I was very lucky. I did get to
kind of switch up my look um quite often, so
that was fun. And I will say there was a
question to say, why did Artie never dress better? His
old man clothes were too unrealistic? How dare you? I
think Artie brought back Normcore. He's a trend setter. U.
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If you look up the trends, there's a correlation. Lou
did that? Oh my god, norm Core. I think also
because you are, like what you just said, because you
are in these outfits all day. Those outfits were so hot,
so hot, and I wearing long sleeves and thick usually
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wolf sweaters under these very bright and hot lights all day.
All day and so eventually they started cutting off my
sleeves of the shirts underneath. So I would walk around
as soon as we were done, I would take the
sweater off in between takes and I would just have
this like cut off of this button up shirt. It
looked very weird. I think I told you about this
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in high school. I had to wear a white button
down collared shirt in high school, as we're a uniform. Well,
when you were in a show, which I was in
most of the musicals, you got to wear your show
shirt the weekend of the performances. So Thursday Friday at school,
you got to wear the show shirt. Your name was
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on the back, they had the logo on the front.
What we would do was, because you technically had to
wear your white shirt underneath your show shirt, we would
cut the collars and you'd have like a fake like
a dickey, Yes, exactly, And I had one that I
would put underneath my show shirts so I could just
wear a T shirt school, Which is like, what a dream?
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So smart? What a dream? Okay? Um, if you could
give Artie and Tina middle names, what would they be? Well,
I would like to give Artie a middle name, and
you can give Tina's middle name. Okay, I think your
middle name is Archibald Arthur Archibald Abrams Damn. Okay um,
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I think your middle name is Carolina, Tina Carolina. Yeah,
I think that's what you can get on bord with that,
and she might go by Carolina she gets older. I
don't know. TCCCA, that's what I'm hoping, because it was
tcc Jacob Artist at some at some point started to
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call me to Sissa, Yeah, to Sissa because it was tccum.
But I'll take I know, I miss him. He had
the best nicknames. He always had so many nicknames for you.
He did. He was the king of nicknames for everybody.
Jacob Okay, what was it like filming the finale? Devastating? Yeah,
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it was rough. We cried a lot, a lot, a lot.
I remember. It was very celebratory though, it was like
they threw that party for us on New York Street.
It was like there was a huge like basically amusement
park festival. Like they had a band, the nineties band,
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they had like games and it was really fun. But
it was also like so sad because like there was
so much time that passed for me personally that I
was like just rushing to the end. I was like,
get me out of here. I can't wait till this
is over, like towards the end, not in the beginning,
or like you know, just not being present and then
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all of a sudden you're like, oh shit, this is
going away and we just don't know. This is home
for six years. So it's just really a very wild experience.
And then just filming everything. And then when Ben are
one of our favorites on the camera team, I mean,
let's be real, they're all our favorites, but Ben, who
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would put down our marks every day. The last last day,
he put down one of our marks in a scene
and everybody just started clapping, like yeah, and this grown
British man, this very grown British man, just burst into tears. Yeah,
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And I was like, oh yeah, we all lost it.
But as soon as Ben lost it, we lost it
because he is so sweet, quiet, and then it's like,
oh no, he's breaking, We're done, goodbye. That was the
funny thing, was like that those like that last week
one person broke, we all, yeah, if if you keep
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it together and keep it together, but if one person goes,
I think we all. It was bad. That last um
song that Matt did, Yeah, brutal. Do you remember we
were shooting that and then Cord, Oh god, oh god.
He cried thinking about it. Cord all of a sudden,
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and coord's not afraid to cry it and so when
he does, he just let it's heartbreaking and he just
stares at you and it's like, oh god, I have
that all on tape. It was really bad. We were
all just like grabbing each other's hands because we were
all sitting in a line too and looking at each
other and just losing it. I think I watched it recently,
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recently recently, but I watched that, and I is in
full to yourself. Yes, there's a video of us online
when they're wrapping each of us, and you could see
that was at the end. We had already been crying
for hours. We had started drinking tequila at some point,
like we what a day. Yeah, we had had it.
On that note. Actually, there's another question somebody asked, did
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you ever consider quitting the show? So interesting? Um, well,
we couldn't if we want to do right. So, um,
you know, it's funny because like I'm I think I
definitely threatened, like I'm I can't. I'm done, you know,
like your just mental state is like I'm done, I've
got to get out of here, cut me out. But
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the actual thought of doing it, I don't think I
ever would have done. Yeah, I wouldn't have let you.
It's like, you know you're gonna get it together, you're yeah. Um,
I mean it was some people wanted to quit, Oh yeah, definitely,
and some people did leave, but you know, it wasn't
like we couldn't really go without permission. Yeah, I think
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there was. There were, yeah, a couple of times when
like you and you understand, like people will become really famous,
and there are opportunities because this is taking up ten
months of the year where you can't go do some
of these other things. And that's why you see it.
It's so common for people to leave TV shows after
a couple of seasons because like I needed to start
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taking these opportunities or they passed by. Look. Yeah, and
so I think you know that's that was happening a bit.
But yeah, we weren't allowed to leave. I never wanted
to quit, but yeah, I know you didn't which season
had the best music. Oh that's tough. I really don't know.
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I don't know that it was a season. I think
it was episodes. I mean I think season two. I'm
thinking abstractly. I don't really remember, but I would imagine
because we haven't gotten it to gotten to it yet.
But season two, when we were in the full swing
of things, yeah, we broke some songs, you know, like
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where people hadn't really heard them for the first time,
and we got the rights to a lot more songs, right,
So it was like Katie Perry, there was Gaga, there
was Bruno Mars, there was Robin Thick, Like I think, yeah,
that's right. Yeah, two two probably was like we had
the budget to get it, we had the prestige and
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like artists giving us songs and the permission. So yeah,
that sounds right. Um, we had a few times for
a few where did the nickname be come from? So
for those of you who don't know, my nickname, sort
of amongst all the Glee folk, right was b and
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that actually is It's one of those things that makes
no sense. But I had I had a friend named
Carly pre Glee, and um, she and I had this
running joke where we'd make fun of couples who'd be
like Beanie Beamie, I'm hot trying the sundown. Yeah, like
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that kind of thing. And then night and I started
doing that on Glee. Would be you know, in between
takes or something like maybe why aren't you Mabie, why
aren't you hearing me? And then it just short shortened
tip be B, and then it came I became B.
But then we all sort of like me and whoever,
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like Leah and I would call each other be Diana
and I, Nia and I, Corey and I. The craziest
was when Corey did it, because you have this like
really big, very straight guy'd be like hey, B. But
you'd also be on set and you would be like
quiet and like we'd be like lighting a senior waiting
for a take to start, and then somebody would just
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like to raw like a beat in the middle of Yes.
I was like, I was at a restaurant I remember
a couple of years ago, and I hadn't seen Leah
in a while, and I just hear BE and I
turned around because that's how you call each other. It's
a good way to just cut through the noise. What
was your other nickname, Kevin? What was my other nickname?
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What did that call you, oh, Zach specifically Woodley, he
would call me tater, top o, tater or talk. Yes.
I love that one. Loved that one. Um, wait, can
I ask you a really fun fact question? Somebody presented
this and I did not know this, or maybe I
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had forgotten, But did you know that Diana Agron exists
within the world of Glee because Kurt runs for class
president and he gives out burlesque DVDs as part of
his gifts and his incentives, and Dana was in burlesque.
So Diana exists within Glee. That's meta, isn't that? That's meta?
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I love that. Something like do you know this? Like
now the more you know? Top three Kevin Zong, Oh God,
don't you never going back again? Py t Well, whatever
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I call your friend is one of my favorites. Yeah,
do that all right? I'm going with that for now. Great,
that's a solid three. That is pretty good three. But
there's so many other ones. I mean, like Empire State
of Mind. I don't know did you shoot scenes chronologically? No?
We did not. No, it was timing money. They would
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try to like get if we were going breadsticks and
there are two scenes you do the back to back
like it was kind of it was just for efficiency
and production? Um correct? Did your partners watch Glee before
meeting you? Yes, David watched it, and then when we
met on hand, she thought he was being catfished because
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he was like Tenick from Las Campy. Ye here, I am, um,
what has been your favorite episode? I have you watched
so far? Man? Was it SmackDown or throw down? I
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laughed a lot. That was really inappropriate that one. But
I think power of Madonna. Maybe I was going to
say Madonna is there and and Prager's is definitely one
of them as well in my memory. Um, one or
two more, Kevin, one or two more? All right? Oh?
How did the cast celebrate birthdays on the show? Well,
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it was always fun um crafty or production would always
get you cake if your birthday landed in the production scare.
I never did so. I never got a cake. Oh
did you get a particularly get a cake on tour
or anything? We did do a birthday. We did your birthday,
We saw you. We definitely saw my birthday. Kevin did
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your birthday? Oh? Yeah, but we know they bring you
a cake. And I never got my own cake because
Harry and I shared a birthday, so Karen, I would
always get a shared cake. It's like having a sibling
you or like your birthday landing on like a holiday. Um. Um, Jennet,
you have two Tony's that you want for producing? Do
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you enjoy acting or producing theater more Current State twenty
twenty three, March March of twenty twenty three parties producing. Yeah,
but you're so good at both. Oh that's very kind,
very kind. Um. Oh so um. Someone asked, did we
have any famous fans of Glee that we are surprised
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watch the show? Yes, they're so. Our first Golden Globes
was very enlightening experience because yeah, that's right. We were
on the red carpet. Jane and I were doing an
interview and I turn around and I go, oh my god. Jane,
Julian Moore, and Tom Ford are right there because tom
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Ford's movie A Single Man was out that year, and
she goes, let's go talk to them. I'm like I
can't do this. I'm like, you can talk to them.
I cannot. So we go and Julian Moore knows exactly
who we are, and she turns to us and it's
talking to Jane. She turns to me and she goes,
we watch every single week, me and my kids, and
we think you're all so good. Wow. I was peeing
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myself and that's when Tom Ford walked up to me
and fixed my bow tie. I remembered her, and then
I just start like babbling like whatever. That was also
the same Golden Globes where Leah was nominated and she
lost and Tom and Rita Wilson We're bad and said
you were wrong. Oh my god, that's amazing. Yes, there
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was a lot. We met a lot of them on tour,
and like Ryan said, like we spoke to like all
these are artsy underdog kids, so like they relate to
this type of show, right right. Yeah. What advice do
you have for actors starting out? Jenna? Oh god, um, exactly.
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I use this one a lot, but I'll share it
because I think it's I think I wish I had
this advice. Do not try to copy the stars that
you I wise, do not try to be a carbon copy.
Do not try to sound like them. Do not try
to copy them, because there's already one of them. You
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are one of a kind. The reason that you're going
to be a star because you're unique, you're different and
you got something to share, so be true to you.
I know it sounds so cliche, but growing up, I
just tried. I tried to sound like Sutton Foster. I
tried to sound like these like Broadway stars that were
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famous and like Adina and Kristen and all of these people,
and I just I was like, Oh no, that's not
what's going to make me successful. What's gonna make me
successful is me giving the world where I have to share,
so that'd be one of them. That's right, that's right,
Jenna Ray Kevin, What about you, Kevin? I would say,
and the most unjaded way possible, that you need to
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be so certain and secure in your self and your
want and desire to do this that when you go
into a room where you're on a zoom or whatever
the audition process may be, you can't control what the
person you're artitioning for is feeling that day. That is
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all out of your control. All you can control is
what you bring in. And I think the ability to
not take it personally when you get rejected, when you
don't get a job, is a really powerful and sustaining thing,
because if you go in there and you're like, well,
I wasn't the one on that day for that role.
It's not because oh it's me. They hated me. I
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didn't do a good enough job. No, you don't know
what the person on the other side of the table
or the other side of the camera has been through
that day. You don't know if they got in a
fight with their partner. You don't know if their dog died.
You don't know, if they got the best news about
something else. You just don't know, and all those things
play a factor in it, unfortunately, and you could look
like someone's ex, you know. And it's really hard to
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not take rejection personally. But if you can learn to
not take it personally, you'll be all right. Because this
business is mostly rejection that you get to work. That's like, um,
that's like one on one, like you really do have
to find that in you to sustain. I think for
everyone and that's okay, And that's I think, that's absolutely okay.
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You give it a go. And if it's not for you,
you're not a failure. It's not for everyone. I'm just
dead on the inside. So it's fine. And on that note,
thanks for writing in you guys, great questions. It can't
wait to do this again. These are really fun for
us um I hope join them love this. Thanks for
spending the time to write in with some of these
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