March 20, 2023 • 42 mins
For every groundbreaking moment on the show like shaving Puck’s mohawk, there were others that we never knew were happening behind the scenes. Inside jokes the cast had with each other, tales from the cast’s tour to Radio City Music Hall and details on an evening in Phoenix that Kevin will never forget.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And That's what you Really missed with Jenna and Kevin
an iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome to and That's what You Really
Missed podcast. I'm Jenna, I'm Kevin, And today's one of
those days. We're racking our brains to remember the week
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of May eleventh, twenty in Glee history, when episode eighteen
of season one aired laryngitis, because we were trying to
remember what we were doing in the real world outside
of the show, which was we were about to start
our tour, first tour, yes, which was one of those
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things that you didn't imagine that you would be doing
as part of a TV show. But there we were
in Phoenix, Arizona, in early summer, and it was hot
as hell. Heather's from Scottsdale, yes, and so we she
kind of knew the territory. I do remember that it
was very hot, but we were in a dark room
a lot of the time. Yeah, we were in a
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theater in downtown Phoenix, Arizona. It felt like I think
it was like a hundred degrees and I remember walking
outside in the sun blinding our eyes and there was
nobody around because of course nobody would be walking the
streets and that heat, and it did feel like a
ghost town like we we had like free rain. It
was summer break sort of thing, summer brick. It was
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very exciting. It was my first time in two gay bars.
I do remember I went to only went to one
of those. I believe it was fun. I remember when
Zach Woodley were at one and we got invited to
go upstairs in this like secret room of this place
to try expensive tequila, and I thought it tasted like
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light or fluid, so I didn't have the palette I
have now. Was this the club where they announced that
you were there? It was the same night, different club
where you know, closeted. Me was in a gay club
for the first time, and then like the cast of
Glee is here, and we ran out of there so quickly.
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I was like, where's Chris. Get Chris, because at that
point it was me, Chris, Kelly, and I think Megan,
which was also funny because I obviously was not closeted
to you guys. But by the time we got to
La Jane Lynch came up to me after the show
and was like, I heard you were a little gay boy,
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like in a sweet way, and I turned bright red
and was like, She's like, oh, okay, never mind, Sorry,
you shouldn't have said that. I was like, no, it's fine.
I just want other people to know. I don't know
what my problem was. That's funny. I recently was back
in Phoenix and went to a gay bar and I
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was like, I wonder if this is the same place,
and it didn't look the same at all, and I
was like, well, my one memory of it is being
in this like back bar. I knew, like geographically the
opposite of what you would have done. Jennet. Yeah, yeah,
I don't remember anything geographically because I don't know geography.
And I wandered through this crowd and I saw the
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back corner bar. I was like, oh my god, this
is it. I gave a drag queen tickets to the show.
I don't know if she came, but it all happened better. Yeah, wow,
the one gay bar. Yeah, it was really magical. I
was happy to find it a billion years later. M
very exciting. Do you remember too. So for this tour,
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Phoenix was our place where we were working out what
the show was going to be, because there was still
a debate of whether or not we were going to
be in character the entire time or were we going
to be ourselves? And we had skits. There were skits
in this tour and the skits in this tool and
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during the first show there wasn't a consistent like, sometimes
we refer to each other and as our real name,
sometimes we refer to each other and our character names.
I was in the wheelchair the whole time, so I
was always ardy, right, And so it was a weird
mix of we didn't quite know what we were doing yet,
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trial and error, and there was also the thing of
the people behind the scenes who are running the tour,
who that's what they normally did. They're like, Oh, it's
gonna be crazy. It's gonna be like one Direction where
there's people screaming everywhere. And then do you remember nobody cheered.
We went out on stage and after each number like
people applauded a little bit. And then we finished the show.
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Everyone went crazy, and we realized the demographic of the
audience was so far off from what they thought it
would be. They thought it was going to be like teens,
and it was teens and younger children and through their
grandparents it was body and that was so people react
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differently in different demographics, and then people were reacting like
they were watching a theater show and not necessarily a concert.
I don't remember. It was the first night and every
afterwards like did people like it? And we had to
have sort of like a meeting to sort of dissect
what was going on. And we realized because we were
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doing so many skits and in our characters, that people
thought it was a theater show. So you don't clap
in the middle of a theater show, really, and so
we had to then add in bits to like involve
the crowd, crowd participation, make them feel like, no, this
is a concert. We're not putting out a theater show,
even though this is like a musical theater type thing.
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That's funny. Well, what a memory, Kevin that I don't
remember any of that. I just remember because I was
just like, they hate it, We're not nobody. I was
taking it very personally. Well. It's also it was like
a new format for a TV show to go on tour,
and I think before that high school musical had gone
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on tour, and that was a heavily skewed demographic in
terms of you knew exactly who was showing up. It's
Disney Channel. It's a young audience and kids will screen tweens. Yeah, exactly,
exactly with us, which is what they expected. I don't
think people knew, right, you know, we met people when
we were out getting recognized, and there was grandparents to children.
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So no, truly, I mean even like people would come
to visit and said and on tour, like when they
come up to us some coffee shops, they'd be like,
my girlfriend really likes the show, but I love the show.
It was very much that so the show, I mean
this episode am aired on May eleventh, which also was
Corey Corey's birthday, yea, and my dad's birthday. Oh and
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you know my mom's birthday is the same as Lea's day.
Really yeah, and now we know that my mom's birthday
is the same as Ryan's birth Ryan's birthday, and you
and Harry and my friend Will and there was one
other person, Marco's brother, Marco's brother. There's quite a few
people with April twenty anyway, it's one of those days. Yes, Well,
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the tour was a hit, obviously after we figured it
out with your memory, there was an experiment it wasn't
and then didn't we also film at Radio City? You're right,
we filmed at Radio City and we weren't really sure
what it was for what they were going to do
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with it, but Ryan was like, let's just film it,
and we never saw it. We should have asked Ryan
if he has it, Oh, we gotta check him and
ask let's ask him, because I need to pull that
out of the archives. I would love to see that,
especially you know shot the way it was shot. Do
you remember like a steady camp was following Lee down
the aisles for don't Random My Parade and like the
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whole thing. I remember too. At Radio City all of
the Fox executives and Ryan everybody came and that's when
they sort of fest up to it being like a
pilot program. They're like, basically, we're doing this like we're
not going to make any money this time, because as
much as it's costing to put on this tour, we're
not putting you on the road long enough to actually
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recoup all of that money. But if this is successful,
then next season we'll do a bigger tour. And we're like,
oh no, what does that mean? And it we broke.
I think at the time the merch sales record at
Radio City, right, and like it worked as successful? So
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next season get ready all right? What else was going on?
Number one song nothing on You Bob featured Brutal Mars Right.
The movie Iron Man two released on May seventh, with
our friend Gwyneth Paltrow, our future friend, our future friend. Yeah,
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and then on the Stay. In two thousand and nine,
the Glee cast attended their season one premiere screening event.
Oh yeah, at Santa Monica High School in Santa Monica.
How far we had come in a year? Right? Right?
I mean it was right when the show premiered, like
after American Idol in two thousand and nine, we did
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that high school thing. And it is weird to think
within a year than we were selling out Radio City. Yeah.
Nobody could have told the cast of Glee at that
amphitheater that we would be on a tour selling out
Radio City or like my home. And and yes, we
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can talk more about the tour another time. Let us
know you guys if you want to hear more about
tour number one, and also we'll ask Ryan about seeing it.
That's where I got that tour was fun and Drea
was fun. We went out of the night after Radio
City to that restaurant that they rented out for us,
and we got buck wild dancing on the I think
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you talked about this in the previous episode Dancing on
the Tables. I was also able to like order sushi
from my favorite place because which is now closed, our
ip Codama, because I was home. I was like, Wow,
this is this in my hood. It was a very
good time, we very exciting. We got to go in
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a private chat for we'll talk about the next week. Okay,
So this episode Laryngitis was special for a number of reasons.
So if you hadn't noticed up to this point during
the back nine so far, Naya is progressively singing more
and more and more and it's yes, thank God, and
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it seems like the creative team starting to recognize how
damn good she was at everything yep, which leads us
to the Boy's mind this episode. And this also goes
to with our interview with Ryan where and he was
talking about how it was so special that we got
to spend so much time in between set scenes where
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he got to know us, because this episode is exactly
a product of that. The Boy is Mine and the
Climb there was also a lot of us getting to
bond with Alfonso Gomez, who will be one of our
resident directors, yes, who was amazing, did a great job,
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very artistic though. So sometimes there are some directors that
would take really quickly Eric Stults, she takes done. There
are some directors that some are men in the middle.
And Alfonso really I got these like very special shots
and he was very specific and so sometimes we would
do it all and we weren't used to that. But
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it looks are like who is this? But they looked
his episodes like we'll get two grilled cheeses, oh goodness, gracious.
And if you watch American Horror Story, he became a
central figure on that show with all of those like
crazy from the ceiling to the floor, like spinning around
type shots. That's all well Fonzie. So if we refer
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to him as Fawnsie, um, that's why. And that's him
quite good friends with him too, Yeah, just he was
like around and poor guy. I remember him like I'd
seen him for ever around led and would just be
like and he's a quiet guy, and we were the opposite.
And I think you had a good impression of him.
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Kevin He's the only impression I can do. It's niche
and it only works for a certain group of people,
but he is the only impression I can do. And
a little Ryan all right, and yeah, definitely right. And
so this was technically written by Ryan, but we know
it's the holy trinity Um Brad, Ryan and Ian. And
we have guest stars Michael Malley who feels like regular
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UM Zach Weinstein very special guest star um Eve Gordon
as Miss fret Hold as Zach's mom or a Sean's mom,
and um actually think is in this episode. Everything is
very funny in this episode. Yeah, we get we get Fink,
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we get a lot more thinks soon. And unfortunately there's
no Jesseline or Jama, which is sad. You know, we
need them. Tell us about the music, Kevin, tell me
about them. We have some gigantic songs. We have Jesse's
Girl by Rick Springfield. We have Lady as a Tramp
by the cast of Babes and Arms. I don't know
what Babes and Arms is, Jenna, it's a show. Well,
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I thought this was like a Frank Sinatra song. You know,
they made it like Frank Sinatra songs. So I would
have believed somebody covered it, but it's a Broadway song.
I had no idea, all right, The Boy's Mind by
Brandy and Monica, The Song of Our Time, Rose's Term
by the cast of Gypsy, and One by You two. Specifically,
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it is the new version of one that features Mary
jay Blige. It is. I wouldn't have known that it's
the cover because I was obsessed with that cover and
I was a little sad I didn't get to sing
on this one. Oh No, but I was really happy
they used the cover because I remember Bono also said
he preferred that version because he hates how he sounds
on the original version. Oh wow. A little tidbit break
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this episode down for us, Jenna, let's do it so
A sort of throat affects Rachel's singing voice and she
goes into panic mode. She's one of my favorite quotes
of the series in this episode. Meanwhile, Kurt tries to
change his persona to across his father get his dad's attention,
and Puck tries to regain his social status by dating
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Mercedes after he shaves the mohawk. He was so sick
about mohawk A lot to maintain. It was a lot,
and it just made him so distinguishable out more. That's right,
there was no hiding. Should we get into the episode
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to talk about some some memories here? So all right,
Puck shows up at school and his mohawk is gone,
you know, Hell's frozen over, and all of a sudden
we realized that the mohawk gave him his popularity, that
gave him his power, and now that it was gone,
gone was his power and people being scared of him.
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And he's noticing that Mercedes is now a cheerio, she's
totally up to her social status and thinks, well, maybe
I need to go after her because she can make
me popular. After he gets thrown at the dumpster, and
he has this you know, aha momentum fun fact. I
don't know if you noticed this, but there's a on
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the waste management sign on the trash band that he
gets thrown into. It's spelled incorrectly. Yeah. I wonder if
they had to do that for like legal reasons. I
don't know, but it's like trademarked or something. I don't know.
That seems pretty general. That's funny, yeah, or somebody just
doesn't know how to spell right, which is fine, um,
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so Puck tries to go after Mercedes, saying all kinds
of offense appropriate inappropriate things, calling her the black girl
several times. I'm like that emoji with the teeth. Um
he was very funny this episode. He doesn't get to
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do a lot of silly comedy, I think, And it
was and he's a funny kid, Like he really did
make us laugh a lot. And then and then because
of Puck and Mercedes actually Mercedes actually being wooed by
Puck even though she really kind of knows exactly what
this is. It takes us to the Santana and Mercedes
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singing the song of the Century, the Boy's Mind, because
Quinn has given her heads up, because Quinn's like, I'm
not worried about Puck breaking your heart. I'm worried about
the ramifications of Santana of you going after Santana's man
like good luck. And then after the assignment when he
does Ladies a Tramp with Mercedes, Santana is like, no, no,
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this will not stand. We're not having this. So do
you want to talk about Boy's Mind? Basically, and this
is also where tour comes in handy. You need to
go watch some bootlegs because somehow when we were sitting around,
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we'd have our chairs in our director's chairs, cast chairs
in a circle in the middle of the sound stage
while they're setting up shots, and Nia starts doing this
Monica impression, which involves a lot of neck movement and
head bobbing and hair moving, and she did this incredible,
(18:24):
incredible spot on monica impression. And Ryan comes up, because
this was happening probably during Madonna, right when Ryan was around,
He's like, what do you He would show up out
of nowhere, like just appear like a phantom and be like,
what are you all laughing at? And so we're like, Naia,
do the thing, Please show him and he was dying laughing.
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And then what do you know, in the next episode
or two episodes there it is. I would say, Amber
also sounds phenomenous. Oh my god, it's it's literally my dream.
I couldn't believe. It felt like a coup, like we
had tricked Ryan into doing the thing we wanted to do.
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I mean sometimes we definitely try before, Like Ryan listened
to this and it worked. You just had to make
him think it was his idea, you know, And then
he's like, let's do this thing. I came up with
her great and so I remember Naya. She went to
record it, and then afterwards she was like, well, I
tried to do the full Monica impression, but Adam wouldn't
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let me, and she threw it in there. She definitely
got it in. If you notice, it's sort of like
how she pronounces some of the vowels and the verbrato
on some of the wards dude things dud do like
And there's a shot if you go watch the number
where she's at the piano and her Amber started the
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piano and Amber walks to perform to the kids, and
when she leaves the piano, yes, it's her last shot
at the piano. She puts her hand up and she
does this nice thing. And that was part of the
original impression that she did for us, and she snuck
it in there, and it got in there. Her ability
to put in inside jokes constantly and keep a straight
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face was unmatched, unmatched. It's so good and it's so funny,
so good. And I discovered when I was sort of
like looking you know this episode up, I found her
doing this on that first tour and she does full
Monica impression. Yeah, she watch some recordings on YouTube. It
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is full Monica and then a bit with the recorded version,
you'll see what we're talking about. Then that is the
boy is Mine. I mean, there's not much else to
say other than the fact that it's brilliant and we
couldn't we literally couldn't be happier that it was in
the episode, and we weren't probably jumping up and down
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when we saw it in the Scriptum. So Mercedes quits
the cheerios the end of it goodbye and says, nobody
quits the cheerio as you either die or I kick
you off. But at some point Mercedes the jig is
up right, like she's got back to Gale Club. Um, okay,
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so can we just at some point during this, him
trying to woo her, says Blacks and Jews have a
history of sticking up for each other, and Wikipedia says
that King Martin Luther loved the Jews. I can I mean,
I have a cringe line for later, but he just
it would like he joins a black church. It was
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sort of like the same thing he did to get Rachel.
It's always like I'm going to leave my Jewishness. It's
it is funny um, but it's also very wildly inappropriate.
It's pretty crazy. So this leads us to our inside
joke number two, which was also a thing we showed Ryan. Well, yeah,
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this was okay, this is amazing. Leah Lead had this
thing where she bad sings, and because she has such
a phenomenal voice, the juxtaposition of her bad singing is
so good. It's it's cringing, it's off key, it is piercing,
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and it's so freaking funny. And she would do it
all the time. We'd ask her to do it all
the time on set, in between takes and when she's
up in the choir room kind of like when she
did the climb, like standing there. She would do it
with a song and she had the ability to like
just get just off key enough that you're like, oh God.
And we made her do it for Ryan and he
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was laughing. And so that is the name of our episode,
because she would the face she performs the climb with
is the face she always does her bad singing with
where she's like, she's not aware, but she knows something
is up. You know, I think something's wrong. You were
all I remember her joining the climb and because it
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wasn't she did it live, so she wasn't singing to
pre record because it obviously wasn't a recorded, recordable thing.
She had an earwig in and you can see it,
go back and see it in her right ear when
she looks at mister Shoe. She has the earwig in
so she can keep time and hear the track. But
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she's singing and there's no music. So imagine us in
the choir room with silence, with her singing the climb.
And this is the first time. Phonzie also was directing
and didn't really know us, and we all are all
trying to keep it together. Yeah, but it was so hard.
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I'm crying thinking about it. There was a shot of
me right before she starts singing, and I'm also I'm
already laughing. It's hard. It's really quick. I'm I'm doing
my frowny face to keep from smiling, and I'm turning
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away from her before she's even started, and I got
caught i camera doing it. Because I also remember her
being like, guys, you got to stop while thing because
I kind of get this done because she we were
making her laugh. Um, but the only way for us
to not laugh was to make confused faces, which were worked.
It worked for the scene. Harry's face was phenomenal in this.
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My gosh, that was so funny. I was laughing. It
makes me want to cry. Um, it's so funny. Nothing
I think every in my life has made me laugh
harder than when she would do those impressions or that single.
I used to tell her when I have a bad day,
I'm going to call you, and I think I did
once and I was like, just give it to me.
I'm going to call you in like ten seconds. I
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need you to be She picked up the phone and
just started singing terribly, and I was crying. It's so
never got old, never got old, all right. So in
the storyline, Rachel gets laryngitis and she she realizes, as um,
we're warming up in things that, which is a very
cute montage as well, that people aren't pulling their way
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they've stopped singing. Um, So she gets she bribes ICs
with Candy to bug the choir room, and all of
her suspicions are confirmed and Finn's definitely not singing because
obviously Jesse's getting all of the solos and everybody else
just kind of yeah, and then Jesse Corey for some
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reason or Finn, sorry, Finn goes with Rachel to the
doctor's appointment and I thought that was very His performance
was very funny. The doctor's appointments are very funny in
the show. Um, he's like, you're never going to sing again,
Jess kidding. But then we get into one of our
most iconic songs, which Ryan Murphy confirmed in his last
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interview that g SEC James was named so that Corey
or Finn rather Sorry, I keep calling Corey that Finn
could sing this number, and this number is just when
I think of Corey, this is the number, that's the one.
This is Finn, this is this is his this is his.
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Don't ring in my parade, that's right, Like this is
his thing. He did it on the tour. Every every
night we would dance backstage to it and ordered under
this stage. Really, Jenna, how would you dance to the song?
All right? Well, the girls had a changing room under
the stage, a quick change room where we would change
our coustumes real fast. And somehow along the way we
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turned into like us pole dancing and stripper strippering. As
we were undressing, strippering, stripping, um stripping as we were
undressing and changing into our next and we had like
a little bit of a long stretch in this one.
And so Kevin heard about it and he came in
and he would see us literally in our fish nets
with our thongs like fully, with our legs in the air.
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Day it was full stripped tease. It was so much fun. Yeah,
it was great. Wait was this the tour that I
peed in the bucket? Second tour? Bucket? No, you stripped
teas second tour? No, No, because there wasn't. We didn't
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have that stage underneath. Stripped Jesse's Girl a second tour?
Oh okay, okay, okay, so never mind, I take it back.
But you'll have to wait now to hear about the
pee in the bucket if you haven't heard about any yea, yeah, okay, okay.
So does Jesse's Girl Jesse's Girl, which it becomes an
iconic number. But then Rachel ends up losing her mind
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and she finds she loses her will to live. Um,
she is just she has no purpose anymore, or they're
told she she's told she has to have surgery, which
is a very scary thing, and as a singer, it
is a scary thing if you have to have anything
down to your voice when your throat. Um. So Finn
decides to take Rachel to m see his friend Fredder
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and he doesn't pre empt any kind of information with Rachel.
So when they go to see him, Um, he's in.
She sees a photo of him and he's in his
football uniform and everything. But they go to visit and
they learn that the wonderful Zac Line scene, who is
an incredible actor who was actually a paralyzed actor from
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the waist down. He does a beautiful job of playing
Sean fred Hold who in the show ingly also had
an accident, a football accident and was also paralyzed. And
I remember Lean telling coming back after shooting these scenes
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because we didn't meet Um, I didn't meet Zach not
until tour he came to exactly, I didn't need him
till after. And UM remember Lea being so moved by
working with him, and um just crying. You can see
in her scenes the whole time she's just crying. Yeah
that's real, Yeah, definitely real. Um. And it's beautiful. I mean,
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they really do a beautiful job with it. And this
this is the beginning of like falsie handling. These like
very heavy scenes and kind of like the more traumatic
stuff of Glee, like, um, so beautifully really so beautifully yeah,
um a great storytelling. They get to sank together at
the end, which just broke me. I agree, yeah, just
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crying right. Um. I thought it was interesting. There's an
MPR article that they did on Zach that came out
the day that this episode came out, and he didn't
say anything bad about you know, you being in the
wheel share or anything like that. He just asked for
equal opportunity, for there to be opportunities for you know,
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paralyzed actors to work and not just in paralyzed roles.
You know, like he can do more than that. It's
like not being pigeonholed. And she just just this one thing,
which I think is so beautiful. It's also important to
have him on. I think that was sort of like
a we're paying attention, we're listening, like, yeah, we're learning. Yeah, definitely.
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And when they sing, so Rachel offers him obviously, Wait,
so let's go back. So Rachel's in the in the
hallway and she's eating cereal and she's in her pajamas.
She looks on kempt and Fins like what is going on?
And she's like, I can't get out of bad. I'm miserable.
I'm like tinker Bell, I need applause to lift. I
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don't know why. It just tickles me so much. Oh,
it's so good, so good. It's so funny to see.
I like seeing Rachel kind of off her game. It's
fun to see UM's so dramatic about everything. So it's like, right,
of course she has tonsils like she's gonna be fine.
I get it together, um. And that's kind of what
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this spearhead, this thing, this idea for Finn to be like,
get your shit together. I said, you don't have it
that bad. Yeah, let's let's talk about perspective. Yeah, exactly.
And then Rachel obviously knows and she gets her voice back,
and she offers Zach to have or Sean to get
voice lessons, and they sing one together. We break into one.
Did you like doing one? Kevin? I? Did? I just remember?
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Weren't we saying that we were dressed like a gap
ad white converse? Yes, I'm sure, I think, goes Zach Woodley.
This is our gap ad moment. We do these a
lot too, with Fonzi because we do um uh, what
of god? That was one of us and we're all white.
(32:04):
Remember por poor Alfonso, you guys Alfonso? Did he do
fix you too? Oh? God, we tortured this poor man.
I don't know why. It was always him, probably because
he was the sweetest. He would never get mad, and
we abused him because we serious serious numbers. We could
(32:30):
not control ourselves. We lose it and the more serious
it was, the more we started laughing. It was like,
you know people who get laugh attacks at funerals. That's
how we behaved. We'll fix you. It was the worst
and we'll get there. He was really the worst. That
was embarrassing. So the other thing that's happening in this
(32:59):
episode is Kurt Kurt, because the assignment for the week
was everybody to find their voice because Rachel has lost
hers or people aren't singing, and so you need to
pick a song that really represents who you are, which
is why we get all these great solos. Kurt, on
the other hand, is really threatened with what's going on
(33:23):
with Burt and Finn, and Finn's getting treated to all
these like sports ball games. He's you know, he's going
to football games, and Kurt's like, okay, I need to
get it together. He missed Hero's practice because you're so upset,
and Sue confronts him, and Sue's like, how do you
(33:46):
know you're gay? Have you kissed a boy? Have you
kissed a girl? Like your generation? She says, See, that's
the problem with the generation. You're obsessed with labels. So
you like show tunes doesn't mean you're gay, means you're awful,
which is ac very funny. Um, now not accurate, obviously,
(34:07):
it's for the joke Jenna. And and so he's like,
you know what, Sure, I'm gonna try this thing, and
all of a sudden goes on this John Mellencamp trip
where he starts dressing in flannel and Bert is like,
what's happening? Okay, we'll go with it, and things ain't
(34:34):
that America? After? I feel like that was also a
Brad foul truck moment. She had to write all of this,
But the scene where he's making out Brittany and purposefully
puts the thing on to knock come down and Bert
comes down and wants him to see and Bert says,
Michael Malley the brilliant Sure he is says either what
(34:56):
we when you decide, let me know and it Yeah,
it is always so poignant and it really is so
impactful and every time it gets me. And also it's
the show constantly is going sort of like high low,
where you have like the comedy of them making out
(35:21):
in him being like, what do boys lips taste like?
You smell like this? Then she's met you know, boys
really like my armpits. And then Bert comes down and
has that really touching, grounded scene, right, and the show
is constantly swinging back and forth between this within a scene. Yeah,
and that is I think, great, impressive. Yeah, so he's
(35:45):
over that, he realizes this isn't probably working for me,
gets upset. Finn and Bert are still have a great relationship,
and Bert's like, look, this is why I'm doing this,
you know, like he's opening up to me when we
have these one on one and like he deserves this.
It's okay. And then Kurt burst into Rose's turn and
(36:08):
has I have pictures of this of his name and lights.
It was this really phenomenal performance Chris just like Blade.
I mean, he was nominated for an Emmy for this
episode that I believe that, and he didn't win unfortunately, whatever,
but a golden globe later. It's fine, Yeah, next year,
(36:30):
it's this year, and it was just like a really
phenomenal thing in Bird's there to see him, and it's
sort of like you don't need to try to change
who you are to like make me love you type thing.
Do you remember Chris getting the song Rose's Turn? I
know he wanted this song so bad, and I know
he had been pitching this song so hard. Really I
(36:53):
did not know this, Oh my gosh. I mean Chris,
I think I knew this song. Yeah, no you didn't,
but but Patty LAPONI did. I mean, there's a million
people who've done it, and it's so iconic and it
was so brilliant and the fact that he got a
sign kind of like roxy Heart in Chicago. I was
change the lyrics. Yeah, I was just blown away. And
(37:17):
I was so happy for him. He was so excited
to do it. I remember going that day to see
it to watch him. Yeah, do it, because gosh, what
a nun better never sounded better? What a great number,
What a great number. Also, if you haven't seen Billy
Porter doing this and the commercial break of the Tony's
a couple of years ago. Um, YouTube that it is
(37:40):
pretty brilliant. That's right, literally, just like off the cuff. Yeah,
it is unbelievable. Um, that's the episode, and that's that's
the episode. You guys, you're in dry Yeah, that was it.
That's it. Nice. Lots of memories, I you know, with
now no thing that Chris really wanted this song. This
(38:02):
episode really hit hit. It was you know, I think
them listening and giving everybody what they wanted truly, which
was great. Nice. We had a great time we did.
This was an episode built storylines around these songs, which
is so fun. Blast okay, party takes, tardy takes, Daddy takes,
(38:27):
cringe moments. I think right off the bat, Puck just
referring to Mercedes black Girl as black Girl not once
but twice, but maybe three times was not my favor.
Specifically for me. I think it was the girl you
got more curves than a nissan Ad and the way
(38:48):
he says it, Um, yeah, I'm sure I let that
sit there. The worst dance move, okay, I pick the
best dance Oh great, and I'm going with the Naya
head bob for Monica. Absolutely, that's it. That's that's the
one best song, Kevin, I mean, I know, I'm I
(39:14):
will go with the Boy's mine. I'll go with Jesse's Girl.
We'll call it even great, Okay great, I love that
for us. It's a tie. Yeah performance by a prop
Kurt and lights on the stage. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yea yeah yeah better. That's good. And the best line
(39:34):
what do you got? What do you love? I'm like
Tinger Bell thin, I need applause to live so good.
I think mine is the so you like show tunes.
It doesn't mean you're gay, just makes her awful. And
there's also another moment in that scene too, where she's like,
I check out of this conversation a minute ago. I
(39:55):
gotta remember remind myself to not stop and talk to students.
Even when she's not really in an episode. She's in
an episode. She shows up, says the greatest shit ever
heard out, and the check clears. Yeah, um, okay, are
(40:16):
you ready for the ship we found on TikTok? Are
you ready? I'm ready? Okay. There is this TikTok called
Glee is My Therapy, and they rank the songs in
their opinion of every single episode. So if you go
to their TikTok. Yeah, it's actually pretty great. So for laryngitis,
(40:40):
for example, they okay, they ranked the climb at number seven.
I'm going to disagree obviously. Yeah, maybe they don't know
the story. You know, they don't know the story, that's right.
And then um, pink houses well made in America, ladies
a tramp one okay, Rosa's Turn, Jesse's Girl, and the
(41:04):
Boy is Mine. They got some of those right, yes, yeah, yeah,
they got the top three correct. That's awesome. Um, but
go to their go to their TikTok. It's pretty great, okay.
And I'm like, I'm going to go through here and
see what they say about all of us. Yeah, please send,
all right, I will send. Yeah, So go check him out.
Thank you for tagging us in these things, and thanks
(41:24):
to all the TikTok accounts that are i guess dedicated
to Glee. Things still mind blowing, and that is laryngitis.
We have a very exciting episode next week, Kevin. That's right,
more of us, Jenna, It's like Wheels Part two and
more of us, but more of you dancing. That's right. Yes,
(41:45):
as huge, it's as huge, as huge as it's huge,
I can't wait. Yeah, I can't wait. I decided to
watch it. I almost watched it last night. Same. All right,
Well thanks for joining us, you guys, um, that's what
you really missed. I took your line, Vin, and that's
what you really missed. It's in caps, Jenna. See you
(42:06):
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And That's what you Really missed with Jenna and Kevin
an iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome to and That's what You Really
Missed podcast. I'm Jenna, I'm Kevin, And today's one of
those days. We're racking our brains to remember the week
(00:22):
of May eleventh, twenty in Glee history, when episode eighteen
of season one aired laryngitis, because we were trying to
remember what we were doing in the real world outside
of the show, which was we were about to start
our tour, first tour, yes, which was one of those
(00:43):
things that you didn't imagine that you would be doing
as part of a TV show. But there we were
in Phoenix, Arizona, in early summer, and it was hot
as hell. Heather's from Scottsdale, yes, and so we she
kind of knew the territory. I do remember that it
was very hot, but we were in a dark room
a lot of the time. Yeah, we were in a
(01:07):
theater in downtown Phoenix, Arizona. It felt like I think
it was like a hundred degrees and I remember walking
outside in the sun blinding our eyes and there was
nobody around because of course nobody would be walking the
streets and that heat, and it did feel like a
ghost town like we we had like free rain. It
was summer break sort of thing, summer brick. It was
(01:28):
very exciting. It was my first time in two gay bars.
I do remember I went to only went to one
of those. I believe it was fun. I remember when
Zach Woodley were at one and we got invited to
go upstairs in this like secret room of this place
to try expensive tequila, and I thought it tasted like
(01:49):
light or fluid, so I didn't have the palette I
have now. Was this the club where they announced that
you were there? It was the same night, different club
where you know, closeted. Me was in a gay club
for the first time, and then like the cast of
Glee is here, and we ran out of there so quickly.
(02:12):
I was like, where's Chris. Get Chris, because at that
point it was me, Chris, Kelly, and I think Megan,
which was also funny because I obviously was not closeted
to you guys. But by the time we got to
La Jane Lynch came up to me after the show
and was like, I heard you were a little gay boy,
(02:33):
like in a sweet way, and I turned bright red
and was like, She's like, oh, okay, never mind, Sorry,
you shouldn't have said that. I was like, no, it's fine.
I just want other people to know. I don't know
what my problem was. That's funny. I recently was back
in Phoenix and went to a gay bar and I
(02:53):
was like, I wonder if this is the same place,
and it didn't look the same at all, and I
was like, well, my one memory of it is being
in this like back bar. I knew, like geographically the
opposite of what you would have done. Jennet. Yeah, yeah,
I don't remember anything geographically because I don't know geography.
And I wandered through this crowd and I saw the
(03:15):
back corner bar. I was like, oh my god, this
is it. I gave a drag queen tickets to the show.
I don't know if she came, but it all happened better. Yeah, wow,
the one gay bar. Yeah, it was really magical. I
was happy to find it a billion years later. M
very exciting. Do you remember too. So for this tour,
(03:40):
Phoenix was our place where we were working out what
the show was going to be, because there was still
a debate of whether or not we were going to
be in character the entire time or were we going
to be ourselves? And we had skits. There were skits
in this tour and the skits in this tool and
(04:00):
during the first show there wasn't a consistent like, sometimes
we refer to each other and as our real name,
sometimes we refer to each other and our character names.
I was in the wheelchair the whole time, so I
was always ardy, right, And so it was a weird
mix of we didn't quite know what we were doing yet,
(04:20):
trial and error, and there was also the thing of
the people behind the scenes who are running the tour,
who that's what they normally did. They're like, Oh, it's
gonna be crazy. It's gonna be like one Direction where
there's people screaming everywhere. And then do you remember nobody cheered.
We went out on stage and after each number like
people applauded a little bit. And then we finished the show.
(04:43):
Everyone went crazy, and we realized the demographic of the
audience was so far off from what they thought it
would be. They thought it was going to be like teens,
and it was teens and younger children and through their
grandparents it was body and that was so people react
(05:03):
differently in different demographics, and then people were reacting like
they were watching a theater show and not necessarily a concert.
I don't remember. It was the first night and every
afterwards like did people like it? And we had to
have sort of like a meeting to sort of dissect
what was going on. And we realized because we were
(05:26):
doing so many skits and in our characters, that people
thought it was a theater show. So you don't clap
in the middle of a theater show, really, and so
we had to then add in bits to like involve
the crowd, crowd participation, make them feel like, no, this
is a concert. We're not putting out a theater show,
even though this is like a musical theater type thing.
(05:47):
That's funny. Well, what a memory, Kevin that I don't
remember any of that. I just remember because I was
just like, they hate it, We're not nobody. I was
taking it very personally. Well. It's also it was like
a new format for a TV show to go on tour,
and I think before that high school musical had gone
(06:08):
on tour, and that was a heavily skewed demographic in
terms of you knew exactly who was showing up. It's
Disney Channel. It's a young audience and kids will screen tweens. Yeah, exactly,
exactly with us, which is what they expected. I don't
think people knew, right, you know, we met people when
we were out getting recognized, and there was grandparents to children.
(06:31):
So no, truly, I mean even like people would come
to visit and said and on tour, like when they
come up to us some coffee shops, they'd be like,
my girlfriend really likes the show, but I love the show.
It was very much that so the show, I mean
this episode am aired on May eleventh, which also was
Corey Corey's birthday, yea, and my dad's birthday. Oh and
(06:56):
you know my mom's birthday is the same as Lea's day.
Really yeah, and now we know that my mom's birthday
is the same as Ryan's birth Ryan's birthday, and you
and Harry and my friend Will and there was one
other person, Marco's brother, Marco's brother. There's quite a few
people with April twenty anyway, it's one of those days. Yes, Well,
(07:21):
the tour was a hit, obviously after we figured it
out with your memory, there was an experiment it wasn't
and then didn't we also film at Radio City? You're right,
we filmed at Radio City and we weren't really sure
what it was for what they were going to do
(07:42):
with it, but Ryan was like, let's just film it,
and we never saw it. We should have asked Ryan
if he has it, Oh, we gotta check him and
ask let's ask him, because I need to pull that
out of the archives. I would love to see that,
especially you know shot the way it was shot. Do
you remember like a steady camp was following Lee down
the aisles for don't Random My Parade and like the
(08:04):
whole thing. I remember too. At Radio City all of
the Fox executives and Ryan everybody came and that's when
they sort of fest up to it being like a
pilot program. They're like, basically, we're doing this like we're
not going to make any money this time, because as
much as it's costing to put on this tour, we're
not putting you on the road long enough to actually
(08:25):
recoup all of that money. But if this is successful,
then next season we'll do a bigger tour. And we're like,
oh no, what does that mean? And it we broke.
I think at the time the merch sales record at
Radio City, right, and like it worked as successful? So
(08:45):
next season get ready all right? What else was going on?
Number one song nothing on You Bob featured Brutal Mars Right.
The movie Iron Man two released on May seventh, with
our friend Gwyneth Paltrow, our future friend, our future friend. Yeah,
(09:09):
and then on the Stay. In two thousand and nine,
the Glee cast attended their season one premiere screening event.
Oh yeah, at Santa Monica High School in Santa Monica.
How far we had come in a year? Right? Right?
I mean it was right when the show premiered, like
after American Idol in two thousand and nine, we did
(09:30):
that high school thing. And it is weird to think
within a year than we were selling out Radio City. Yeah.
Nobody could have told the cast of Glee at that
amphitheater that we would be on a tour selling out
Radio City or like my home. And and yes, we
(09:50):
can talk more about the tour another time. Let us
know you guys if you want to hear more about
tour number one, and also we'll ask Ryan about seeing it.
That's where I got that tour was fun and Drea
was fun. We went out of the night after Radio
City to that restaurant that they rented out for us,
and we got buck wild dancing on the I think
(10:12):
you talked about this in the previous episode Dancing on
the Tables. I was also able to like order sushi
from my favorite place because which is now closed, our
ip Codama, because I was home. I was like, Wow,
this is this in my hood. It was a very
good time, we very exciting. We got to go in
(10:33):
a private chat for we'll talk about the next week. Okay,
So this episode Laryngitis was special for a number of reasons.
So if you hadn't noticed up to this point during
the back nine so far, Naya is progressively singing more
and more and more and it's yes, thank God, and
(10:56):
it seems like the creative team starting to recognize how
damn good she was at everything yep, which leads us
to the Boy's mind this episode. And this also goes
to with our interview with Ryan where and he was
talking about how it was so special that we got
to spend so much time in between set scenes where
(11:17):
he got to know us, because this episode is exactly
a product of that. The Boy is Mine and the
Climb there was also a lot of us getting to
bond with Alfonso Gomez, who will be one of our
resident directors, yes, who was amazing, did a great job,
(11:41):
very artistic though. So sometimes there are some directors that
would take really quickly Eric Stults, she takes done. There
are some directors that some are men in the middle.
And Alfonso really I got these like very special shots
and he was very specific and so sometimes we would
do it all and we weren't used to that. But
(12:02):
it looks are like who is this? But they looked
his episodes like we'll get two grilled cheeses, oh goodness, gracious.
And if you watch American Horror Story, he became a
central figure on that show with all of those like
crazy from the ceiling to the floor, like spinning around
type shots. That's all well Fonzie. So if we refer
(12:28):
to him as Fawnsie, um, that's why. And that's him
quite good friends with him too, Yeah, just he was
like around and poor guy. I remember him like I'd
seen him for ever around led and would just be
like and he's a quiet guy, and we were the opposite.
And I think you had a good impression of him.
(12:48):
Kevin He's the only impression I can do. It's niche
and it only works for a certain group of people,
but he is the only impression I can do. And
a little Ryan all right, and yeah, definitely right. And
so this was technically written by Ryan, but we know
it's the holy trinity Um Brad, Ryan and Ian. And
we have guest stars Michael Malley who feels like regular
(13:10):
UM Zach Weinstein very special guest star um Eve Gordon
as Miss fret Hold as Zach's mom or a Sean's mom,
and um actually think is in this episode. Everything is
very funny in this episode. Yeah, we get we get Fink,
(13:31):
we get a lot more thinks soon. And unfortunately there's
no Jesseline or Jama, which is sad. You know, we
need them. Tell us about the music, Kevin, tell me
about them. We have some gigantic songs. We have Jesse's
Girl by Rick Springfield. We have Lady as a Tramp
by the cast of Babes and Arms. I don't know
what Babes and Arms is, Jenna, it's a show. Well,
(13:52):
I thought this was like a Frank Sinatra song. You know,
they made it like Frank Sinatra songs. So I would
have believed somebody covered it, but it's a Broadway song.
I had no idea, all right, The Boy's Mind by
Brandy and Monica, The Song of Our Time, Rose's Term
by the cast of Gypsy, and One by You two. Specifically,
(14:13):
it is the new version of one that features Mary
jay Blige. It is. I wouldn't have known that it's
the cover because I was obsessed with that cover and
I was a little sad I didn't get to sing
on this one. Oh No, but I was really happy
they used the cover because I remember Bono also said
he preferred that version because he hates how he sounds
on the original version. Oh wow. A little tidbit break
(14:44):
this episode down for us, Jenna, let's do it so
A sort of throat affects Rachel's singing voice and she
goes into panic mode. She's one of my favorite quotes
of the series in this episode. Meanwhile, Kurt tries to
change his persona to across his father get his dad's attention,
and Puck tries to regain his social status by dating
(15:06):
Mercedes after he shaves the mohawk. He was so sick
about mohawk A lot to maintain. It was a lot,
and it just made him so distinguishable out more. That's right,
there was no hiding. Should we get into the episode
(15:27):
to talk about some some memories here? So all right,
Puck shows up at school and his mohawk is gone,
you know, Hell's frozen over, and all of a sudden
we realized that the mohawk gave him his popularity, that
gave him his power, and now that it was gone,
gone was his power and people being scared of him.
(15:48):
And he's noticing that Mercedes is now a cheerio, she's
totally up to her social status and thinks, well, maybe
I need to go after her because she can make
me popular. After he gets thrown at the dumpster, and
he has this you know, aha momentum fun fact. I
don't know if you noticed this, but there's a on
(16:09):
the waste management sign on the trash band that he
gets thrown into. It's spelled incorrectly. Yeah. I wonder if
they had to do that for like legal reasons. I
don't know, but it's like trademarked or something. I don't know.
That seems pretty general. That's funny, yeah, or somebody just
doesn't know how to spell right, which is fine, um,
(16:32):
so Puck tries to go after Mercedes, saying all kinds
of offense appropriate inappropriate things, calling her the black girl
several times. I'm like that emoji with the teeth. Um
he was very funny this episode. He doesn't get to
(16:55):
do a lot of silly comedy, I think, And it
was and he's a funny kid, Like he really did
make us laugh a lot. And then and then because
of Puck and Mercedes actually Mercedes actually being wooed by
Puck even though she really kind of knows exactly what
this is. It takes us to the Santana and Mercedes
(17:18):
singing the song of the Century, the Boy's Mind, because
Quinn has given her heads up, because Quinn's like, I'm
not worried about Puck breaking your heart. I'm worried about
the ramifications of Santana of you going after Santana's man
like good luck. And then after the assignment when he
does Ladies a Tramp with Mercedes, Santana is like, no, no,
(17:42):
this will not stand. We're not having this. So do
you want to talk about Boy's Mind? Basically, and this
is also where tour comes in handy. You need to
go watch some bootlegs because somehow when we were sitting around,
(18:02):
we'd have our chairs in our director's chairs, cast chairs
in a circle in the middle of the sound stage
while they're setting up shots, and Nia starts doing this
Monica impression, which involves a lot of neck movement and
head bobbing and hair moving, and she did this incredible,
(18:24):
incredible spot on monica impression. And Ryan comes up, because
this was happening probably during Madonna, right when Ryan was around,
He's like, what do you He would show up out
of nowhere, like just appear like a phantom and be like,
what are you all laughing at? And so we're like, Naia,
do the thing, Please show him and he was dying laughing.
(18:45):
And then what do you know, in the next episode
or two episodes there it is. I would say, Amber
also sounds phenomenous. Oh my god, it's it's literally my dream.
I couldn't believe. It felt like a coup, like we
had tricked Ryan into doing the thing we wanted to do.
(19:07):
I mean sometimes we definitely try before, Like Ryan listened
to this and it worked. You just had to make
him think it was his idea, you know, And then
he's like, let's do this thing. I came up with
her great and so I remember Naya. She went to
record it, and then afterwards she was like, well, I
tried to do the full Monica impression, but Adam wouldn't
(19:28):
let me, and she threw it in there. She definitely
got it in. If you notice, it's sort of like
how she pronounces some of the vowels and the verbrato
on some of the wards dude things dud do like
And there's a shot if you go watch the number
where she's at the piano and her Amber started the
(19:51):
piano and Amber walks to perform to the kids, and
when she leaves the piano, yes, it's her last shot
at the piano. She puts her hand up and she
does this nice thing. And that was part of the
original impression that she did for us, and she snuck
it in there, and it got in there. Her ability
to put in inside jokes constantly and keep a straight
(20:13):
face was unmatched, unmatched. It's so good and it's so funny,
so good. And I discovered when I was sort of
like looking you know this episode up, I found her
doing this on that first tour and she does full
Monica impression. Yeah, she watch some recordings on YouTube. It
(20:34):
is full Monica and then a bit with the recorded version,
you'll see what we're talking about. Then that is the
boy is Mine. I mean, there's not much else to
say other than the fact that it's brilliant and we
couldn't we literally couldn't be happier that it was in
the episode, and we weren't probably jumping up and down
(20:54):
when we saw it in the Scriptum. So Mercedes quits
the cheerios the end of it goodbye and says, nobody
quits the cheerio as you either die or I kick
you off. But at some point Mercedes the jig is
up right, like she's got back to Gale Club. Um, okay,
(21:15):
so can we just at some point during this, him
trying to woo her, says Blacks and Jews have a
history of sticking up for each other, and Wikipedia says
that King Martin Luther loved the Jews. I can I mean,
I have a cringe line for later, but he just
it would like he joins a black church. It was
(21:38):
sort of like the same thing he did to get Rachel.
It's always like I'm going to leave my Jewishness. It's
it is funny um, but it's also very wildly inappropriate.
It's pretty crazy. So this leads us to our inside
joke number two, which was also a thing we showed Ryan. Well, yeah,
(22:02):
this was okay, this is amazing. Leah Lead had this
thing where she bad sings, and because she has such
a phenomenal voice, the juxtaposition of her bad singing is
so good. It's it's cringing, it's off key, it is piercing,
(22:24):
and it's so freaking funny. And she would do it
all the time. We'd ask her to do it all
the time on set, in between takes and when she's
up in the choir room kind of like when she
did the climb, like standing there. She would do it
with a song and she had the ability to like
just get just off key enough that you're like, oh God.
And we made her do it for Ryan and he
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was laughing. And so that is the name of our episode,
because she would the face she performs the climb with
is the face she always does her bad singing with
where she's like, she's not aware, but she knows something
is up. You know, I think something's wrong. You were
all I remember her joining the climb and because it
(23:07):
wasn't she did it live, so she wasn't singing to
pre record because it obviously wasn't a recorded, recordable thing.
She had an earwig in and you can see it,
go back and see it in her right ear when
she looks at mister Shoe. She has the earwig in
so she can keep time and hear the track. But
(23:28):
she's singing and there's no music. So imagine us in
the choir room with silence, with her singing the climb.
And this is the first time. Phonzie also was directing
and didn't really know us, and we all are all
trying to keep it together. Yeah, but it was so hard.
(23:49):
I'm crying thinking about it. There was a shot of
me right before she starts singing, and I'm also I'm
already laughing. It's hard. It's really quick. I'm I'm doing
my frowny face to keep from smiling, and I'm turning
(24:09):
away from her before she's even started, and I got
caught i camera doing it. Because I also remember her
being like, guys, you got to stop while thing because
I kind of get this done because she we were
making her laugh. Um, but the only way for us
to not laugh was to make confused faces, which were worked.
It worked for the scene. Harry's face was phenomenal in this.
(24:33):
My gosh, that was so funny. I was laughing. It
makes me want to cry. Um, it's so funny. Nothing
I think every in my life has made me laugh
harder than when she would do those impressions or that single.
I used to tell her when I have a bad day,
I'm going to call you, and I think I did
once and I was like, just give it to me.
I'm going to call you in like ten seconds. I
(24:53):
need you to be She picked up the phone and
just started singing terribly, and I was crying. It's so
never got old, never got old, all right. So in
the storyline, Rachel gets laryngitis and she she realizes, as um,
we're warming up in things that, which is a very
cute montage as well, that people aren't pulling their way
(25:16):
they've stopped singing. Um, So she gets she bribes ICs
with Candy to bug the choir room, and all of
her suspicions are confirmed and Finn's definitely not singing because
obviously Jesse's getting all of the solos and everybody else
just kind of yeah, and then Jesse Corey for some
(25:41):
reason or Finn, sorry, Finn goes with Rachel to the
doctor's appointment and I thought that was very His performance
was very funny. The doctor's appointments are very funny in
the show. Um, he's like, you're never going to sing again,
Jess kidding. But then we get into one of our
most iconic songs, which Ryan Murphy confirmed in his last
(26:02):
interview that g SEC James was named so that Corey
or Finn rather Sorry, I keep calling Corey that Finn
could sing this number, and this number is just when
I think of Corey, this is the number, that's the one.
This is Finn, this is this is his this is his.
(26:22):
Don't ring in my parade, that's right, Like this is
his thing. He did it on the tour. Every every
night we would dance backstage to it and ordered under
this stage. Really, Jenna, how would you dance to the song?
All right? Well, the girls had a changing room under
the stage, a quick change room where we would change
our coustumes real fast. And somehow along the way we
(26:45):
turned into like us pole dancing and stripper strippering. As
we were undressing, strippering, stripping, um stripping as we were
undressing and changing into our next and we had like
a little bit of a long stretch in this one.
And so Kevin heard about it and he came in
and he would see us literally in our fish nets
with our thongs like fully, with our legs in the air.
(27:07):
Day it was full stripped tease. It was so much fun. Yeah,
it was great. Wait was this the tour that I
peed in the bucket? Second tour? Bucket? No, you stripped
teas second tour? No, No, because there wasn't. We didn't
(27:27):
have that stage underneath. Stripped Jesse's Girl a second tour?
Oh okay, okay, okay, so never mind, I take it back.
But you'll have to wait now to hear about the
pee in the bucket if you haven't heard about any yea, yeah, okay, okay.
So does Jesse's Girl Jesse's Girl, which it becomes an
iconic number. But then Rachel ends up losing her mind
(27:52):
and she finds she loses her will to live. Um,
she is just she has no purpose anymore, or they're
told she she's told she has to have surgery, which
is a very scary thing, and as a singer, it
is a scary thing if you have to have anything
down to your voice when your throat. Um. So Finn
decides to take Rachel to m see his friend Fredder
(28:14):
and he doesn't pre empt any kind of information with Rachel.
So when they go to see him, Um, he's in.
She sees a photo of him and he's in his
football uniform and everything. But they go to visit and
they learn that the wonderful Zac Line scene, who is
an incredible actor who was actually a paralyzed actor from
(28:37):
the waist down. He does a beautiful job of playing
Sean fred Hold who in the show ingly also had
an accident, a football accident and was also paralyzed. And
I remember Lean telling coming back after shooting these scenes
(28:57):
because we didn't meet Um, I didn't meet Zach not
until tour he came to exactly, I didn't need him
till after. And UM remember Lea being so moved by
working with him, and um just crying. You can see
in her scenes the whole time she's just crying. Yeah
that's real, Yeah, definitely real. Um. And it's beautiful. I mean,
(29:20):
they really do a beautiful job with it. And this
this is the beginning of like falsie handling. These like
very heavy scenes and kind of like the more traumatic
stuff of Glee, like, um, so beautifully really so beautifully yeah,
um a great storytelling. They get to sank together at
the end, which just broke me. I agree, yeah, just
(29:42):
crying right. Um. I thought it was interesting. There's an
MPR article that they did on Zach that came out
the day that this episode came out, and he didn't
say anything bad about you know, you being in the
wheel share or anything like that. He just asked for
equal opportunity, for there to be opportunities for you know,
(30:08):
paralyzed actors to work and not just in paralyzed roles.
You know, like he can do more than that. It's
like not being pigeonholed. And she just just this one thing,
which I think is so beautiful. It's also important to
have him on. I think that was sort of like
a we're paying attention, we're listening, like, yeah, we're learning. Yeah, definitely.
(30:32):
And when they sing, so Rachel offers him obviously, Wait,
so let's go back. So Rachel's in the in the
hallway and she's eating cereal and she's in her pajamas.
She looks on kempt and Fins like what is going on?
And she's like, I can't get out of bad. I'm miserable.
I'm like tinker Bell, I need applause to lift. I
(30:56):
don't know why. It just tickles me so much. Oh,
it's so good, so good. It's so funny to see.
I like seeing Rachel kind of off her game. It's
fun to see UM's so dramatic about everything. So it's like, right,
of course she has tonsils like she's gonna be fine.
I get it together, um. And that's kind of what
(31:19):
this spearhead, this thing, this idea for Finn to be like,
get your shit together. I said, you don't have it
that bad. Yeah, let's let's talk about perspective. Yeah, exactly.
And then Rachel obviously knows and she gets her voice back,
and she offers Zach to have or Sean to get
voice lessons, and they sing one together. We break into one.
Did you like doing one? Kevin? I? Did? I just remember?
(31:44):
Weren't we saying that we were dressed like a gap
ad white converse? Yes, I'm sure, I think, goes Zach Woodley.
This is our gap ad moment. We do these a
lot too, with Fonzi because we do um uh, what
of god? That was one of us and we're all white.
(32:04):
Remember por poor Alfonso, you guys Alfonso? Did he do
fix you too? Oh? God, we tortured this poor man.
I don't know why. It was always him, probably because
he was the sweetest. He would never get mad, and
we abused him because we serious serious numbers. We could
(32:30):
not control ourselves. We lose it and the more serious
it was, the more we started laughing. It was like,
you know people who get laugh attacks at funerals. That's
how we behaved. We'll fix you. It was the worst
and we'll get there. He was really the worst. That
was embarrassing. So the other thing that's happening in this
(32:59):
episode is Kurt Kurt, because the assignment for the week
was everybody to find their voice because Rachel has lost
hers or people aren't singing, and so you need to
pick a song that really represents who you are, which
is why we get all these great solos. Kurt, on
the other hand, is really threatened with what's going on
(33:23):
with Burt and Finn, and Finn's getting treated to all
these like sports ball games. He's you know, he's going
to football games, and Kurt's like, okay, I need to
get it together. He missed Hero's practice because you're so upset,
and Sue confronts him, and Sue's like, how do you
(33:46):
know you're gay? Have you kissed a boy? Have you
kissed a girl? Like your generation? She says, See, that's
the problem with the generation. You're obsessed with labels. So
you like show tunes doesn't mean you're gay, means you're awful,
which is ac very funny. Um, now not accurate, obviously,
(34:07):
it's for the joke Jenna. And and so he's like,
you know what, Sure, I'm gonna try this thing, and
all of a sudden goes on this John Mellencamp trip
where he starts dressing in flannel and Bert is like,
what's happening? Okay, we'll go with it, and things ain't
(34:34):
that America? After? I feel like that was also a
Brad foul truck moment. She had to write all of this,
But the scene where he's making out Brittany and purposefully
puts the thing on to knock come down and Bert
comes down and wants him to see and Bert says,
Michael Malley the brilliant Sure he is says either what
(34:56):
we when you decide, let me know and it Yeah,
it is always so poignant and it really is so
impactful and every time it gets me. And also it's
the show constantly is going sort of like high low,
where you have like the comedy of them making out
(35:21):
in him being like, what do boys lips taste like?
You smell like this? Then she's met you know, boys
really like my armpits. And then Bert comes down and
has that really touching, grounded scene, right, and the show
is constantly swinging back and forth between this within a scene. Yeah,
and that is I think, great, impressive. Yeah, so he's
(35:45):
over that, he realizes this isn't probably working for me,
gets upset. Finn and Bert are still have a great relationship,
and Bert's like, look, this is why I'm doing this,
you know, like he's opening up to me when we
have these one on one and like he deserves this.
It's okay. And then Kurt burst into Rose's turn and
(36:08):
has I have pictures of this of his name and lights.
It was this really phenomenal performance Chris just like Blade.
I mean, he was nominated for an Emmy for this
episode that I believe that, and he didn't win unfortunately, whatever,
but a golden globe later. It's fine, Yeah, next year,
(36:30):
it's this year, and it was just like a really
phenomenal thing in Bird's there to see him, and it's
sort of like you don't need to try to change
who you are to like make me love you type thing.
Do you remember Chris getting the song Rose's Turn? I
know he wanted this song so bad, and I know
he had been pitching this song so hard. Really I
(36:53):
did not know this, Oh my gosh. I mean Chris,
I think I knew this song. Yeah, no you didn't,
but but Patty LAPONI did. I mean, there's a million
people who've done it, and it's so iconic and it
was so brilliant and the fact that he got a
sign kind of like roxy Heart in Chicago. I was
change the lyrics. Yeah, I was just blown away. And
(37:17):
I was so happy for him. He was so excited
to do it. I remember going that day to see
it to watch him. Yeah, do it, because gosh, what
a nun better never sounded better? What a great number,
What a great number. Also, if you haven't seen Billy
Porter doing this and the commercial break of the Tony's
a couple of years ago. Um, YouTube that it is
(37:40):
pretty brilliant. That's right, literally, just like off the cuff. Yeah,
it is unbelievable. Um, that's the episode, and that's that's
the episode. You guys, you're in dry Yeah, that was it.
That's it. Nice. Lots of memories, I you know, with
now no thing that Chris really wanted this song. This
(38:02):
episode really hit hit. It was you know, I think
them listening and giving everybody what they wanted truly, which
was great. Nice. We had a great time we did.
This was an episode built storylines around these songs, which
is so fun. Blast okay, party takes, tardy takes, Daddy takes,
(38:27):
cringe moments. I think right off the bat, Puck just
referring to Mercedes black Girl as black Girl not once
but twice, but maybe three times was not my favor.
Specifically for me. I think it was the girl you
got more curves than a nissan Ad and the way
(38:48):
he says it, Um, yeah, I'm sure I let that
sit there. The worst dance move, okay, I pick the
best dance Oh great, and I'm going with the Naya
head bob for Monica. Absolutely, that's it. That's that's the
one best song, Kevin, I mean, I know, I'm I
(39:14):
will go with the Boy's mine. I'll go with Jesse's Girl.
We'll call it even great, Okay great, I love that
for us. It's a tie. Yeah performance by a prop
Kurt and lights on the stage. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yea yeah yeah better. That's good. And the best line
(39:34):
what do you got? What do you love? I'm like
Tinger Bell thin, I need applause to live so good.
I think mine is the so you like show tunes.
It doesn't mean you're gay, just makes her awful. And
there's also another moment in that scene too, where she's like,
I check out of this conversation a minute ago. I
(39:55):
gotta remember remind myself to not stop and talk to students.
Even when she's not really in an episode. She's in
an episode. She shows up, says the greatest shit ever
heard out, and the check clears. Yeah, um, okay, are
(40:16):
you ready for the ship we found on TikTok? Are
you ready? I'm ready? Okay. There is this TikTok called
Glee is My Therapy, and they rank the songs in
their opinion of every single episode. So if you go
to their TikTok. Yeah, it's actually pretty great. So for laryngitis,
(40:40):
for example, they okay, they ranked the climb at number seven.
I'm going to disagree obviously. Yeah, maybe they don't know
the story. You know, they don't know the story, that's right.
And then um, pink houses well made in America, ladies
a tramp one okay, Rosa's Turn, Jesse's Girl, and the
(41:04):
Boy is Mine. They got some of those right, yes, yeah, yeah,
they got the top three correct. That's awesome. Um, but
go to their go to their TikTok. It's pretty great, okay.
And I'm like, I'm going to go through here and
see what they say about all of us. Yeah, please send,
all right, I will send. Yeah, So go check him out.
Thank you for tagging us in these things, and thanks
(41:24):
to all the TikTok accounts that are i guess dedicated
to Glee. Things still mind blowing, and that is laryngitis.
We have a very exciting episode next week, Kevin. That's right,
more of us, Jenna, It's like Wheels Part two and
more of us, but more of you dancing. That's right. Yes,
(41:45):
as huge, it's as huge, as huge as it's huge,
I can't wait. Yeah, I can't wait. I decided to
watch it. I almost watched it last night. Same. All right,
Well thanks for joining us, you guys, um, that's what
you really missed. I took your line, Vin, and that's
what you really missed. It's in caps, Jenna. See you
(42:06):
next week. Everyone. Thanks for listening and follow us on
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