March 6, 2023 • 45 mins
Kirstin Chenoweth, people dressed as food, and Mercedes’ first big storyline meets…Jenna’s 24th birthday (and why Kevin can’t remember it,) Jenna feeling overwhelmed while on a live panel and a super cringe-worthy moment they’d like to have back.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin
an iHeartRadio podcast really missed Welcome to you. No Jenna, No,
this is and that's what you really missed the Glee
Rewatch podcast. I'm Jenna, I'm Kevin, and this week we
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are talking about season one episode sixteen, Home Home, directed
by Paris Barclay, his second episode of season one that
he directs. It's very exciting. I love Paris. It originally
aired on April twenty seventh, twenty ten, the day before
my twenty fourth birthday. Oh my god, it was so
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long ago, and the day before Harry's twenty eight. That's right,
and so Jenna, Jenna and Harry have the same birthday,
along with many other people that I know. Is a
very popular day for twenty It's very popular. Okay, the
number one do anything for your birthday? We went to
were you there? We went to Tokyo delve Um. It's
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a sushi restaurant in North Hollywood and they have like
dancers that dress up like and they sing sync and
they lit like yeah exactly yeah, and we got a
sushi boat and Telly was there. I think you were there, Kevin.
I think I was and it's it was just really
fun and low key. So that was you, um, what
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was going on in the world. The number one song
was nothing on You? How does that? Bob? Nothing on You?
Oh right, okay, nothing You? Oh you? And this was
Bob's I think it was his first single and Bruno Mars.
Oh really yes, and this was a big thing for
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Bruno Mars. Yeah, How to Train Your Dragon was the
number one movie in the country. I have seen that. UM.
The day before this episode came out, we went to
UM evening with Glee, a special screening and panel for
the Television Academy and North Hollywood. Do you remember that.
I remember going to that big, long panel. We talked
about the show was moderated, we talked about lots of
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fun stuff, and then at the end of it, all
the people who are there who could buy tickets come
bum rushing the stage and I remember thinking like feeling like,
oh my god, all these people want our autograph and
our photos. It was like overwhelming. It was pretty crazy. Yeah,
and this was also our first TV Academy event. So
you do these things, you hope that TV Academy members
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are in the audience, and so therefore you know the
aspiration is that we get nominated for Emmy's Coming Out. Yes, right, Okay,
so this one is a lot of guest stars. We
have Christian Channowith, John Gruff, Romi Rose momd and Mike O'Malley.
Oh what a great stacked lineup of guest stars. Curly,
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we are so so lucky. There's a couple of fun
facts about this episode. Okay, this, um, this is this
one isn't fun. There's no jama that's not fun. We
need jamak. But it's the first episode where the title
is the actual name of a song. There's the first
episode where there wasn't like a Rachel centric storyline. Wow,
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that's crazy. And already we are at our one hundredth performance.
Good lord, Yeah, crazy beautiful. When Amber sings Beautiful towards
the end of this episode, that's our one hundred Wow
Wow wow wow wow pretty wid Yeah. So the songs
in this episode are Fire by Bruce Springsteen. A House
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Is Not at Home by Dion Warwick. B Backrock just
recently passed away and one of the greatest songwriters of
all time, and it felt nice to watch this episode
and hear some of his music and this um one,
Let's spelled to answer by Barbara full By Christina and
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Home from the Whiz. You know, wow, big episode. These
are legends, legendary songs and songwriters and singers. Get We
have Dion Warwick, Barbara Streiss and Bruce Springsteen, Dame and
Bert Backreck in one episode. That's this is when we're
starting to get like the bigger artists, the bigger songs,
like the catalogs are just being kind of like given
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gifted to us a you know, alamadonna. Um let's get
into it. This is a fun episode. Yeah, I really
enjoyed this episode. Um So. The eppisode summary. First of all,
everyone is feeling displaced from their homes in some way
or another, whether metaphorically or physically. New directions. Finn, Jesse,
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Saint James, Mercedes and Kurt Will April Rhodes. So one
of the main storylines is that Mercedes, Um and Kurt
joined the Cheerios and Mercedes is asked by Sue in
preparation for their big magazine interview where Sue is named
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coach of the past two thousand years, that Mercedes has
to drop ten pounds. The whole Cheerios team has to
lose pounds weight, but Mercedes has given an assignment of
ten pounds, and so we start out with Sue saying
that Mercedes, your chords have had more fantastic runs than
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a Kenyan track team, but that look will simply not
do oh yeah, oh indeed, and then she says that
she wants Mercedes to lose weight so she can be
wearing a gender appropriate costume by the end of the week.
When Tracy Pendergrass gets there for the interview, not great.
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So they're in the cafeteria and Mercedes is eating a
salad and some grilled chicken and you know, waters, I think.
Kurt says, that's what you're eating. You have a week
to lose ten pounds. It's like having to lose one
of my butt cheeks. And Kurt says, look, Mercedes, this
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is not Please, don't mess up our chance to finally
fit in and be with the cool crowd. So Mercedes
is feeling the stakes of this and not wanting to
disappoint Kurt. So Mercedes then goes and asks Brittany and
Becky and Santana how they stay so skinny and they
share the master cletons. Do you remember that this cleans
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was like all the rage at that time. Kevin. We're like,
you're whole Foods at January first of the new year,
and they had like all of the things set out
for pepper thing where you just drank that in water
for a week. I had so many I think I
was the only person not doing that. We did a
lot of cleanses on set. Yeah. Um, and we see
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Quinn like kind of from a far sea Mercedes and like,
you know, longingly, like knowing what she's going through. Um,
So Mercedes is at this way in right, and she
she gains two pounds and Sue is like, no, you
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have four days to lose the waiter. You're out and
threatens her by saying, yeah, you have to do other
thing like you like soon you'll be like like Becky
has a way in as well. Right right, It's like, oh,
you're gonna be like every other American teenaged girl and
start hiding bags of bile and vomit around your parents'
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house like it's in your living your parents living room
or something like that. Yeah, it's not not good, but
this is one of my favorite things we ever did.
I didn't realize it happened this soon oh, yes, season two.
In my head, this is this is it? Well back nine. Honestly,
the back nine kind of feels a season two. Yeah,
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so I was gonna say what I because we had
such a big gap in real life between the first thirteen.
In the back nine, the back nine feels like a
completely different, Yes, experience, it does, it does. There was
a time off, there was it steels separate. Okay, So
we're in the cafeteria and Mercedes is with Tina and
Artie and she is starving herself because obviously she has
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four days till these ten pounds, which is wild, and
she starts hallucinating and she starts to see us as
food and Amber gives such a wonderful performance in this
whole episode. I was so excited for her, so proud
of her. Um this was like her big storyline. I
remember her really taking this super seriously and you know, really,
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you know, just doing doing the deed. She is amazing.
So but I remember us coming out in these outfits
and try to laugh at her and ruin her takes
because she was, you know, she had to kind of
be serious and this was so ridiculous that we looked
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like this. Kevin and It's one of those things where
Paris is very serious. He can be fun and silly,
but like, yeah, you know, Amber had a really serious
thing to portray her and just don't screw this up.
And you and I and Leah and John. I was
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sitting in that back room in these costumes looking a fool. Yeah,
and like we couldn't look at each other. So like
I remember and this actual scene sitting around the table,
you and I could not make eye contact with one another.
We had to just like the only one we can
stay in this is to look at Amber and just
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remember we have to give it to her and not
mess this up. Lines. I'm literally a piece of cake.
I also how cool this was because this person that
had made costumes for like Katy Perry or something that's
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right and had to build it around your wheelchair. Yes,
they had to get like three people to lift the
piece of Like when the take was over, I couldn't
just get up. I had like zero arms. It's so funny.
I'm sorry, Oh god, it was one of my favorite
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things we ever did, truly. Yeah, Okay, so basically during
all of this, we're just saying that we love her
the way she is in these cleanses. People don't it
doesn't work and you know, blah blah blah, and then
she um she runs away and we see Leah and
Croff in their ridiculous costumes. This is Groff's second episode also,
and he's in a bird her and she passes out
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in the cafeteria and we so she ends up should
we cut to her in the nurse's office, right, and
such a sweet scene. I think the scene is beautiful, beautiful,
And we haven't seen Quinn and Mercedes together either. It's
like the budding relationship and friendship that they have. And
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Quinn tells her that she's like, eat the granilla bar.
She's like, I'm not hungry, and she's like, yes, yes
you are. I've been there. And then she says, M,
did they start looking like food before you passed down?
She's like, M, been there. And Quinn tells her that
her relationship to food changed when she got pregnant because
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she's realizing she's doing everything she can to fuel her
body for this little thing. Then why can't she do
that for herself? And I thought that was really beautiful.
I think that's an incredibly well written line. Yes, I've
been thinking about that line all day because how that
translates to a lot of us when we get cut
up in fad diets and things about if you're willing
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to do this for somebody else and make sure everybody
else is eating correctly, like why aren't we yeah doing
that or caring about ourselves. It's one of those moments
where we were just addressed as desserts and then all
of a sudden, you have Amber sitting there, Mercedes sitting
there crying right talking about her body, and then Quinn
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saying yeah, like yeah, I get it, And here's why.
It was a really powerful moment and one that because
you know, I think Paris made a point of doing
this in every episode to balance that out perfectly. Yeah,
where you still believed both realities. Yeah, and like again,
we're now tackling eating disorders, we're tackling kind of weight loss,
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we're tackling all of this. Like Quinn's line about saying
like she's lucky because she's always been home in her
body and don't not to let suit take that away
from her. I mean, it was so beautiful and it
really resonated with me because, like I obviously in this industry,
like I've struggled with my body and just seeing yourself
on camera every day it's like jarring, and um, you know,
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having Emma like my body, my body has changed my
mentality in the fueling of my body and also like
nutrition wise, like wanting to eat well, not for weight loss,
but to eat to fuel myself so that like I
can have I can live a long life. That's really
like the way I look at it now, it's just
so crazy but very existential. But um, it's really it
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was really beautifully done. As you said. Now we get
to we're cutting, we're cutting a head a bit, but
we're just getting through this whole Mercedes beautiful Mercedes storyline
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where Tracy Pendergrass shows up and Sue was expecting a woman,
right and he shows up with the PEP rally and
the interview and Mercedes switches up the plan and she
decides to come out and take Quinn's advice and sing,
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you know, says, cherios aren't about you know, looking caught
and you know, being cool, but like actually just really
loving each other and loving ourselves and learning how to
do that every day. So meanwhile, Sue's freaking out because
Tracy Pendergrass said that this is going to be like
a hard hitting expose, and then the number that she
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had planned doesn't happen. Mercedes comes out and god yeah
and sings this number and gets the glee club and
some fellow classmates to come up and sing with her
and this, and then Amber does this beautiful one hundred number.
Beautiful huh see what I did there? And I remember
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shooting this and just being so proud of Amber. I
think we shot this towards the end of the episode,
maybe that this at home, and just watching Amber kind
of do this whole performance was really It's just fun
to be able to watch your friends do things that
like stretched them. And you know, Amber can wail and
do sing about just about anything, but like to watch
her actually act and hold this episode was like really beautiful. Yeah, tears,
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she was providing tears. She was providing tears, and I
know she was nervous about that too, so um. And
then we get to the office the next day where
Tracy says she's going to continue this interview next the
next day and she's office and you know, it says
that he admitted that he hadn't liked Sue since in
that minuting matter, and the fact that she called him
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rerun twice made him think that she was a little
bit racist. Moving on and then yeah, and then she
realizes he realizes that he was wrong, right, and says
that seeing that performance and seeing how he's she's teaching
her cheerios to be inclusive and positive about these things
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that are not always respected and thought positively of in
that cheerio cheerio world. And she's like, well, yeah, m
I did that on purpose. Yeah, And then we have
this moment of her admitting that he was wrong to
Mercedes about the cheerios, and we know the stakes of
trying to fit in right, which is really nice. They
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have such a great friendship, do they really? Do? We
fall in love with Marchine? So meanwhile, Sue has blocked
out the entire auditorium just to I don't know, mess
with Shoe because it's too cold outside her cheeros to
be rehearsing. So she has a sign up sheet in
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her waistband and says that Will can't use the auditorium
after he confronts her about it, and the whole week
is reserved just for the cheerios taken away from their home.
If you exactly displacing them. So when Will shares us
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with the Glee Club, Rachel recommends a sit in, Puck
recommends that they torched the place, but mister Shoe takes
upon himself to make a promise that he's going to
find them a new home for the week. Shoe goes
to the roller roller Rink, which in real life in
La Moonlight Rollerway that we It's in every movie you see,
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every TV show you see. If there's all, that's the one.
They have a great LGBT and Iron Wednesdays. You should
go check it out. Yeah, it's great. I've been several times. Yes,
um and lo and behold who's at the roller rink?
Pulling focus on the main stage. But Kristen Chenno with
aka April Rhodes And she's like, well, Schuster, I just
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had a sex stream about you, and then queues up
a song Fire by Bruce Springsteen, hands him a mic
that's bedazzled, bedazzled with flames, ready for the song, and
they sing this great number. I would just like to
point out again how good Christen Chenno is as a singer.
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I mean, I will say there are a lot of
musical theater people I mean she has her master's an opera. Yeah,
she's classically trained who cannot do everything what she does,
she can adapt to any style of song. She is
singing on that Bruce Springsteen song, she cut out her
vibrato entirely. Yeah, she's like Jesse Mahler. Yeah, she's just
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singing this like pop rock song. Yeah, she made it
a pop song, but it's, you know, rock song. And
it's just very very very very impressive. She sings so
many different genres in this one episode, and she sings
them differently each time. Yes, she does what is called
for in the song she called. We call that versatility. Yeah,
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it's just so I'll never get over it because it's
so hard to be able to do that. Yeah, she
can do anything with her voice. Yeah, yeah, Plato. It's
really crazy. And she's a great actress as well. Because
we get into this scene where Will sees April and
this like hero, I thought you were getting sober. She says,
I was so chatted about so bring up and studying
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a new life that I had to stop at a
bar and get a drink just to calm down. And
then she lived at the bar for four months, right,
and then she admits that she's actually running this roller
rink because she's a new mistress of Buddy Leewwitz, who
is a strip mall tycoon, and Wills like, oh, well
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we need I'm a temporary space for the glee club.
And she's like, oh, bring him here, no big deal.
And then Will tells April that he has to sublet
his apartment because he's getting divorced. And this divorce, does
that mean you're free to date? And by date I
mean sleep with people, and by sleep with I mean
have sex with people people like me. Kidding, not really,
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And so she's offering, it's so good, she's offering to
sublet his place. And it's like, I'm gonna need to
come see the funk Hua or fing fong whatever it's called. Oh,
and so she is gonna weazle her way into going
to his home. Then mister Shu was like, Hey, new directions.
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I got the roller rink and we're gonna go perform there.
Rehearse there, right, And then Kurt addresses the glee club.
He says, mister Shu has something to say, and he
just says that we all need to find a sense
of place and that everybody's feeling. He's kind of like
naming it all, Like, you know, Finn is feeling upset
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that their their parents are dating and you know, um,
well we'll get into that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he
breaks into the song. Well he goes through Brad and
uh sings houses not at home? Do you actually just
have the sheet music sitting there on the piano ready?
But he knew, Yeah, that's how it works, say, and
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it's it's an uncomfortable performance. He's emotional, he's like working
through things and Finn's like, what is happening? Right? But
then which I forgot about, we cut to Finn singing
in this number, Finn singing, his tradition of singing to
enimate objects continues, and he somehow makes it work for
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him because God blessed Scory, like you you know, he
can make anything work. But of course he had to
sing to the chair and to the urn of his
his late father. Um, it was weird. It was weirder
than him singing to the ultrasound. Definitely, at least it
was quick. It was really quick. No, no, yeah, I
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would also say I in this episode, I noticed a
lot Corey's physicality and he was a twenty something year
old man playing a sixteen year old right, and I
feel like he does such a good job of embodying
the physicality of like a teenager. Okay, Golden Retriever, I
don't know how my body moves yet. Yeah, goofy, goofyman Coverston,
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You're right, Yes he didn't. He didn't quite inhabit his body,
but Corey did so exactly. Finn didn't. All right, So
we get to April. Okay, you take this, Kevin, because
this is your favorite. This is maybe my favorite song
ever in this show. I know nobody understands this. Maybe
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it's top three, I don't know, it might be number one.
I love this number. I love it because I think
it is such an excellent mashup and the arrangement of
the song, the harmonies of this number are I don't know,
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I don't know what it is. And I will also
say watching this um actual number in the show, Paris's
music video directing fully comes in handy here. Yeah, because yes,
the way this is so simple but yet choreographed so perfectly, Like,
never did I ever think I would be so enthralled
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with people laying in bed belting for their lives. Yea
and it's beautiful and how it cuts together. It's fully
music video. This is absolutely someone who knows musicality and
music video. Yes, that's all I kept thinking, I haven't
but I haven't heard this song in a long time,
like unlike you, And so I was reminded with a
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slap in the face with how good number. That's how
good it is? Yeah, you get struck with it across
the face. Yep, it is a masterclass. And I think
this scene too, right before leading up to it, when
April shows up at Will's house, it's like, I'm gonna
check it out, and he's like, you can sleep on
the couch. I'm not really cool with this, but no
funny business sleeping on the couch, and she's like dressed
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in this crazy outfit, bought her bag. She brings out
a bottle of wine, and then it goes into this
really obviously it's weird. They're singing to each other in
the house. Whatever, well, right, we'll buy it. And then
it's this really beautiful moment for both of them feeling
displaced and this house. They're both around people, they're not
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that comfortable within this house, but lonely and how they
can find It's also one of those things too, where
this song the lyrics really don't apply to their situation,
but the power of music, of how you can pull
from a song what you need to to apply to
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your life is what's happening. And I just think, you know,
Adam Andrews some crazy work on the arrangement. Yeah yeah
it Um, Kristen and Matt just sounds so good together.
I mean, two Broadway stars right there. Yeah, but that's
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like it doesn't necessarily sound like no, no, a musical
theater song singing is you're right between? Yeah, it is
somewhere between, and it is theatrical. It's over the top,
but there you just put that song on. You just oh,
that's so funny. I an't about watching the video at
some point because I think that also will inform me
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in a different um anyway. Okay, so so after this
beautiful number, that's one of three. Now, I know we
can break it down if you want. The April tells well,
Will says that um at the roller rank that they
shouldn't a habit of sleeping in the bed together. And
then Will says, what do you do in April? Like
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you deserve more than being someone's mistress and deserves to
find happiness and hope, and you know he really has.
I hoped for her. And so April tells Will that
she's going to go break up with buddy. Is this
where Chris got injured at the roller rink? By the way,
everybody's explained his wrist or something. I think you're right.
I think you're right. The new directions are not rehearsing,
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they're just skating. Well, we're trying to stay alive. Yea,
his reality and I at least had big wheels. I
had you to hold on to, whereas other people didn't.
And do you see Harry go down? I don't think
that was fake. I was very appreciative that I got
to sit in the chair. I hate roller skating because
I'm so bad. It's hard. It's hard, and I was
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scared um, but I was laughing because it was such
a It was a fun day for us because we
get we weren't had no lines. It just got to
like be there and actidally and do some physical comedy
and not die. I love too that this was sort
of Groff's introduction to being part of the league club.
We're like welcome to not having any lines, and you're
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just an all DC. You're just hanging You're just saying um.
So okay. So then we cut to April showing up
at Will's office and she's like what. He's like, what
you're doing here? And she she told him that she
broke up with Buddy or she and then and then
he had a stroke in front of her and died.
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And she's rich. She got two million dollars. So she's
sobering up and heading to the Broadway where she's gonna
Mount Mount, the first all white Productional I didn't know
April was racist? Is the turn of events, and the
turn a dark turn of events. April is not it's
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not good. It's not. Um. But but in in in
April Roses roses defense and I'm not defending her. I'm
just saying she is offensive. Yeah, there are character is offensive. Yeah,
but again, I don't think that would fly. We wouldn't
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be making that joke now, No, no, because it's not
a joke. Um. And then and then she's not a
Rachel's I did you tell them that? Um? April Rhodes
has bought the auditorium, she has bought our home back
for us, and it is named the April Rhodes Civic Pavilion.
Um fun fact, I think Kristen actually has a theater
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named after her in her hometown or surrounding town nearby.
That's awesome. Um, and then we'll get to that last
number yeah later, but um. So the other storyline happening
in this is the good old storyline Kurt and love
with Fenn thing. So what happens is Kurt Kurt rolls
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up to Finn after leagu club one day and ask
for advice for redecorating his bedroom and Finn's like, I
have no idea, like why are you asking me? In
like points to something. Meanwhile, Finn's mom, Carol, is all
of a sudden selling Finn's late dad's stuff, and when
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it comes to recliner, Finn freaks out and it's like, no,
that's not for sale, Like why are you doing this?
This is dad's chair. It's the only picture I have
of him with me. He's holding me in that chair,
and Carol's like, it's not it's a chair, it's not him.
And then Carol says like, look, also, Carol's dressed completely differently.
All of a sudden, she's she's no longer in the
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acid washed jeans and best and Carol's says, I've been
seeing someone and I'm in love and the person I've
been seeing is Kurt's dad Bert, and so Finn then
confronts Kurt about it, and it's like, what's going on
with our parents? And then Kurt says, like, didn't you
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notice anything's different about your mom her look? Before? You know,
like they'll be living together and redecorating their room together,
hence why he was asking this. So Kurt has been
planning this whole thing as a way to, you know,
get closer to Finn, Jenna, do you I don't know
(30:33):
what I was doing, But I don't remember Kurt being
in love with Finn being such a huge storyline. I
don't know why I have no recollection of this. Yes,
I agree, it does become short lived because of Kurt,
Carol and Burt, I think, and it no longer flies
when like their parents are actually together. But you're right,
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I don't quite And maybe it's because they were just
shooting so much off to the side. We were never
really there, like we weren't at the breadsticks scene, like
we didn't watch these things until we saw them when
the episodes came out, So maybe it's just because we
weren't part of it. I think I also like thought
this whole Kurt, I mean this Carol and oh god, Carol, Kurt, Bert,
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I know, I know, I know Carol and Burt think
happened later in season two. Agreed also, but they they
do live on So that's why I think we set
you know, Burton Carroll quite a bit. So. But yes,
I think a lot of this feels like the back
nine feels like a far off dream from the first
thirteen day we did. Um and so mad. Yeah, He's like,
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I like my house, I'm not moving, I'm not selling
that damn chair. And and Finn's very resistant towards all
of this, but they obviously he's a kid, so he
has to go do what his mom says. And they
go to breadsticks on a double date with Kurt, Finn
and their parents, and we were moving to bread sticks.
So glad I didn't have to do breadsticks. Um, Finn says,
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you know, makes this off kind of like, oh, we're
not a family, and you know, in response to like
I think Bert saying something, and and then Burt and
Finn like Bert wins Finn over with his charm talking
about sports, and you can see that like Kurt is
commenting on Carol's clothes and you know, the thing that
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they kind of bonded over and her makeover, and now
Kurt's very hurt about Finn and Bert getting along, and
we see this beautiful scene between Kurt and Burt where
he's like, I feel, you know, I left felt left
out and sad, and Bert's like, of course, I love
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you like you're my son. Like we don't try to
change each other. That's our relationship. They have a very
open and communicative, communicative relationship, as we've learned, and a
little guy talk with some other kid isn't going to
change that. And then Kurt says guy talk, I'm a guy,
and Bert says, you know what I think. But I
(33:16):
thought that was really powerful though, like Kurt's saying like,
I'm a guy. Yeah. I think it's important that these
scenes are a little messy, like yeah, yeah, not everybody's
saying the perfect thing all the time, but there's an understanding.
Really their intentions are in the right place. And then
Bert says, suddenly, I'm not the guy who sat through
River Dance three in a row. It's so cute though,
(33:40):
because they do think the best of each other most
of the time, and they do bring out like that
that really deep good part of each other. So and
that's why I think it's very sweet. Um. And then
Kurt's like, maybe it is too soon that you started dating,
and Bert says it's been eight years. And then the
(34:00):
really kind of questions, which because he can see right
through his son obviously in question why he set him
up with Carol in the first place. That was good.
Wasn't it to make me happy? M hmm. Kurt tells
Finn that, mmmm, this isn't gonna work. We need to
break them up, and Finn could tell it hurt. Kurt
admits he doesn't like seeing his mom move on either,
(34:21):
and Finn agrees, and they shake hands and like, okay,
let's put an end to them. Right Then Finn threatens
to throw his dad's ashes down the toilet. He takes
the ash. He's like, oh, I'm just gonna like I
can do this too. You've been doing it, and so
it's great. Yeah, I think Carol, oh my gosh, just roam, gosh,
(34:41):
just really going says that they can do what they've
been doing for the past ten years, which is pretending,
and she reveals she hasn't felt this way about anyone
since his dad and he's being selfish, tells Finn that
she loves him and that they need a family and
a home. And I thought it was really powerful when Finn,
(35:05):
you know, says this isn't what dad would want, and
she's like, you don't know him, and that's tough, Like
it's it's still crazy to me. This is the same show,
yeah that you know, not that we're dressed in cupcakes
and cupcakes and things, and a really powerful, I think
(35:27):
hard to articulate thing that people go through all the time. Well,
that's dealing with the parents that's passed away at an
early age, right. I think that's really what's so powerful
Luckley though, is like you hit these really hard hitting
situations and it's you know, like social issues and um,
you know, eating disorders and you know, loss and grief
(35:48):
and and then you break into song into Madonna and
Bruce Springsteen and like, no studio these days if you
pitched a show like that, unless you're Ran Reffe would
be like, yeah, I get that, Like you'd be like,
that's two different shows, right. I think even then they
were like Ryan being like believe me, no. Yes. So
(36:09):
the storyline starts to wrap up when Bert all of
a sudden, is at Finn's house and they have this
man to man in the kitchen and it's very tense
and they're both like I have a lot to say.
I have a lot to say, and m Bert's like,
well I don't have that much to say, so I'll start.
And he's like, I will never hurt your mom. I
(36:33):
love her. Your dad was a hero. I would like
to be a hero for your mom as long as
she wants me to be. Michael Malley Man, Yeah, there's
just there's something beautiful about the simplicity with Romy and
Mike doing these scenes where it's let me just let
me just say these words because you know they're not
(36:55):
doing some huge, um extravagant let me show you how
good of an actor I am. They're good because it's
true how they're saying it. Yeah. So then Finn just
sort of wraps it up. He's like, oh, okay, well
I was just gonna ask if you want to watch
a game. Yeah. I mean he hears it, he doesn't
have to admit it. But he hears, you know, Burt
(37:17):
in what he says, and and then um, you know
they He's like, no, you wait, you can sit here
in the chair. He moves. The scene is almost completely perfect,
almost and then almost too Kurt standing outside the window.
I'm surprised wasn't raining on the on the window raining? Yes, right,
(37:39):
Kurt standing at Finn's house, crying like he might as
well have been an adjacent mask, like what what is
what is happening? Why? That like sweet moment, and then
it just pans to him in this gigantic windows. Very
do you not see him? He's very funny. It's very funny.
(38:00):
It's so creepy. It's so creepy. So we get to
the final moment of this episode is us in the
auditorium behind Chris and Chennewith where she sings home in
(38:20):
the new April World Civic Pavilion. That's right, and she
comes on in this beautiful gown. Now she's rich done jewels,
and we're all we're all her choir, which happily we are,
you know, swaying and singing with her in her backup
singers that beautiful scrim lifts and you see this beautiful
(38:41):
clouded sky in the background that is lit beautifully. It
look stunning. I think it looks so good. Are you
just it makes me uncomfortable having like a white person
sing this song right right? It feels weird, right it's
it's so beautifully done. And I wasn't even thinking of that.
(39:03):
Thank you for that? Um right. I don't know why.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm I don't but I I
mean so yeah, Okay. When I think of this, I
think of Amber at the White House and Michelle Obama
singing this song. It's an incredibly written song. Are the
Wiz is incredible? This is an incredible song, right, Um?
(39:25):
But it just feels it feels so fair enough, strange,
fair enough? Um but I do love this song. Also,
if anyone hasn't seen Jasmine Sullivan singing this song on
YouTube at eleven years old in the A Whiz production
of her at her school, go look it up. Have
(39:49):
you seen it, Jenna? No, but I saw you storied
about it. I watch it monthly. O Jasmine Sullivan at
eleven years old done. It's unbelievable. I don't understand. But
she's a prodigy. Obviously, it was a prodigy like I
just whatever anyway, Okay, that's home. That Okay, let's do
(40:13):
it so cringe moments aka special shout out to Paris
for Auchiese. This episode, there's a couple lines. I mean,
I would say the whole mounting and all white production
of the Whiz, right. I think that was the one.
Not a great look. I think the um the line
(40:35):
with Becky earlier in the episode about vombiting and having
an eating disorder, it's not great, you know. I think
having Mercedes lose weight there's great things. Well, yeah, I
mean her Sue talking about, you know, Becky gonna be
you know, a volimic. It's it's like, we're not. Yeah,
(40:56):
we're not. That's not really how we handle things anymore. Um.
Been singing to the chair? Oh did you say that one? Yeah?
That's that's a good one. That's the one. UM. Worse
dance move. Um, I don't know, And I don't think.
There wasn't a lot of dancing, right. We weren't a
(41:16):
lot of group numbers either, So no, okay, UM, I
think maybe singing to the Urn still counts in that
category as well. M M. Best song home, but now
you made me rethink it. No, because the song is
good and christ and Chenowitz is but beautiful. Also, I mean,
like anything ever sing is obviously is wins. I mean,
(41:40):
obviously I'm going to pick my favorite number of all
the time. Oh, I have been embarrassing things to admit. Yes,
I had never heard the song home before we filmed
this episode. Oh no, I feel like there's a lot
of edumicating happening here. Well I must have. I had
seen the win, so I must have, but I didn't
(42:02):
know it, like it was not on my radar sort
of thing. Fair enough, Yeah, best performance by a prop,
the arn, the arned, the arn is good. I also
have to say the bedazzled nikes really stood out to me.
They were beautiful. They reminded me of like of course
Christens on TOURZ. Yeah. Okay, and then the best line. Okay,
(42:26):
So in the last last episode, I thought the line
about the you know curtain Mercedes having their own Bravo
show was in Madonna, but it's actually in this episode.
How do you guys not have your own Bravo show? Say? Um,
what else is there, Kevin? What there's a I'm just
(42:46):
gonna rattle off a couple of incredible ones Britney saying
I think my cat is reading my diary. It's a
good one. Um Puck mouthing, defend you're gay, oh Bert
saying I hate Duke like a hate the Nazis. Yeah,
I think is absolutely incredible. Yea, and then Kurt saying
(43:06):
I feel like the guy who set up Liza David guest.
You know it's very niche and specific, but that's right. Delicious,
delicious yummy. Okay. So Jenna, um shit we found on
the tiktoks this week, tell me um this incredible video.
(43:29):
I just it's how Glee would sound in real life.
Glee thing posted it, okay, And it's one of those
videos where you just you have random clips of the
show and then you have the real sounds. It's silent,
basically like it's like splashes in the pool. No, it's
(43:49):
it's very good. You have pulled it up and watch
this thing. I'm pulling it up like some music playing
in the hallway. You have no because like kids randomly
seeing in the hallway just like yeah, kids talking around
(44:14):
them like what is happening? No, this is so awkward.
It's so good. Yeah, you have to the sneakers, you
guys got We'll go to the Glee thing TikTok um
and watch it. How Glee that sounded real life. It's excellent.
Thank you for tagging us in that. It's it's a
(44:38):
minute of pure joy. Very good, very very good. It's
very funny. Well that's home. That is home. Um you guys,
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a good run. I can't wait to talk about this episode. Well,
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And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin
an iHeartRadio podcast really missed Welcome to you. No Jenna, No,
this is and that's what you really missed the Glee
Rewatch podcast. I'm Jenna, I'm Kevin, and this week we
(00:23):
are talking about season one episode sixteen, Home Home, directed
by Paris Barclay, his second episode of season one that
he directs. It's very exciting. I love Paris. It originally
aired on April twenty seventh, twenty ten, the day before
my twenty fourth birthday. Oh my god, it was so
(00:45):
long ago, and the day before Harry's twenty eight. That's right,
and so Jenna, Jenna and Harry have the same birthday,
along with many other people that I know. Is a
very popular day for twenty It's very popular. Okay, the
number one do anything for your birthday? We went to
were you there? We went to Tokyo delve Um. It's
(01:05):
a sushi restaurant in North Hollywood and they have like
dancers that dress up like and they sing sync and
they lit like yeah exactly yeah, and we got a
sushi boat and Telly was there. I think you were there, Kevin.
I think I was and it's it was just really
fun and low key. So that was you, um, what
(01:26):
was going on in the world. The number one song
was nothing on You? How does that? Bob? Nothing on You?
Oh right, okay, nothing You? Oh you? And this was
Bob's I think it was his first single and Bruno Mars.
Oh really yes, and this was a big thing for
(01:47):
Bruno Mars. Yeah, How to Train Your Dragon was the
number one movie in the country. I have seen that. UM.
The day before this episode came out, we went to
UM evening with Glee, a special screening and panel for
the Television Academy and North Hollywood. Do you remember that.
I remember going to that big, long panel. We talked
about the show was moderated, we talked about lots of
(02:10):
fun stuff, and then at the end of it, all
the people who are there who could buy tickets come
bum rushing the stage and I remember thinking like feeling like,
oh my god, all these people want our autograph and
our photos. It was like overwhelming. It was pretty crazy. Yeah,
and this was also our first TV Academy event. So
you do these things, you hope that TV Academy members
(02:32):
are in the audience, and so therefore you know the
aspiration is that we get nominated for Emmy's Coming Out. Yes, right, Okay,
so this one is a lot of guest stars. We
have Christian Channowith, John Gruff, Romi Rose momd and Mike O'Malley.
Oh what a great stacked lineup of guest stars. Curly,
(02:55):
we are so so lucky. There's a couple of fun
facts about this episode. Okay, this, um, this is this
one isn't fun. There's no jama that's not fun. We
need jamak. But it's the first episode where the title
is the actual name of a song. There's the first
episode where there wasn't like a Rachel centric storyline. Wow,
(03:16):
that's crazy. And already we are at our one hundredth performance.
Good lord, Yeah, crazy beautiful. When Amber sings Beautiful towards
the end of this episode, that's our one hundred Wow
Wow wow wow wow pretty wid Yeah. So the songs
in this episode are Fire by Bruce Springsteen. A House
(03:38):
Is Not at Home by Dion Warwick. B Backrock just
recently passed away and one of the greatest songwriters of
all time, and it felt nice to watch this episode
and hear some of his music and this um one,
Let's spelled to answer by Barbara full By Christina and
(04:03):
Home from the Whiz. You know, wow, big episode. These
are legends, legendary songs and songwriters and singers. Get We
have Dion Warwick, Barbara Streiss and Bruce Springsteen, Dame and
Bert Backreck in one episode. That's this is when we're
starting to get like the bigger artists, the bigger songs,
like the catalogs are just being kind of like given
(04:25):
gifted to us a you know, alamadonna. Um let's get
into it. This is a fun episode. Yeah, I really
enjoyed this episode. Um So. The eppisode summary. First of all,
everyone is feeling displaced from their homes in some way
or another, whether metaphorically or physically. New directions. Finn, Jesse,
(04:47):
Saint James, Mercedes and Kurt Will April Rhodes. So one
of the main storylines is that Mercedes, Um and Kurt
joined the Cheerios and Mercedes is asked by Sue in
preparation for their big magazine interview where Sue is named
(05:07):
coach of the past two thousand years, that Mercedes has
to drop ten pounds. The whole Cheerios team has to
lose pounds weight, but Mercedes has given an assignment of
ten pounds, and so we start out with Sue saying
that Mercedes, your chords have had more fantastic runs than
(05:29):
a Kenyan track team, but that look will simply not
do oh yeah, oh indeed, and then she says that
she wants Mercedes to lose weight so she can be
wearing a gender appropriate costume by the end of the week.
When Tracy Pendergrass gets there for the interview, not great.
(05:52):
So they're in the cafeteria and Mercedes is eating a
salad and some grilled chicken and you know, waters, I think.
Kurt says, that's what you're eating. You have a week
to lose ten pounds. It's like having to lose one
of my butt cheeks. And Kurt says, look, Mercedes, this
(06:12):
is not Please, don't mess up our chance to finally
fit in and be with the cool crowd. So Mercedes
is feeling the stakes of this and not wanting to
disappoint Kurt. So Mercedes then goes and asks Brittany and
Becky and Santana how they stay so skinny and they
share the master cletons. Do you remember that this cleans
(06:35):
was like all the rage at that time. Kevin. We're like,
you're whole Foods at January first of the new year,
and they had like all of the things set out
for pepper thing where you just drank that in water
for a week. I had so many I think I
was the only person not doing that. We did a
lot of cleanses on set. Yeah. Um, and we see
(06:59):
Quinn like kind of from a far sea Mercedes and like,
you know, longingly, like knowing what she's going through. Um,
So Mercedes is at this way in right, and she
she gains two pounds and Sue is like, no, you
(07:23):
have four days to lose the waiter. You're out and
threatens her by saying, yeah, you have to do other
thing like you like soon you'll be like like Becky
has a way in as well. Right right, It's like, oh,
you're gonna be like every other American teenaged girl and
start hiding bags of bile and vomit around your parents'
(07:45):
house like it's in your living your parents living room
or something like that. Yeah, it's not not good, but
this is one of my favorite things we ever did.
I didn't realize it happened this soon oh, yes, season two.
In my head, this is this is it? Well back nine. Honestly,
the back nine kind of feels a season two. Yeah,
(08:06):
so I was gonna say what I because we had
such a big gap in real life between the first thirteen.
In the back nine, the back nine feels like a
completely different, Yes, experience, it does, it does. There was
a time off, there was it steels separate. Okay, So
we're in the cafeteria and Mercedes is with Tina and
Artie and she is starving herself because obviously she has
(08:30):
four days till these ten pounds, which is wild, and
she starts hallucinating and she starts to see us as
food and Amber gives such a wonderful performance in this
whole episode. I was so excited for her, so proud
of her. Um this was like her big storyline. I
remember her really taking this super seriously and you know, really,
(08:51):
you know, just doing doing the deed. She is amazing.
So but I remember us coming out in these outfits
and try to laugh at her and ruin her takes
because she was, you know, she had to kind of
be serious and this was so ridiculous that we looked
(09:12):
like this. Kevin and It's one of those things where
Paris is very serious. He can be fun and silly,
but like, yeah, you know, Amber had a really serious
thing to portray her and just don't screw this up.
And you and I and Leah and John. I was
(09:33):
sitting in that back room in these costumes looking a fool. Yeah,
and like we couldn't look at each other. So like
I remember and this actual scene sitting around the table,
you and I could not make eye contact with one another.
We had to just like the only one we can
stay in this is to look at Amber and just
(09:54):
remember we have to give it to her and not
mess this up. Lines. I'm literally a piece of cake.
I also how cool this was because this person that
had made costumes for like Katy Perry or something that's
(10:16):
right and had to build it around your wheelchair. Yes,
they had to get like three people to lift the
piece of Like when the take was over, I couldn't
just get up. I had like zero arms. It's so funny.
I'm sorry, Oh god, it was one of my favorite
(10:39):
things we ever did, truly. Yeah, Okay, so basically during
all of this, we're just saying that we love her
the way she is in these cleanses. People don't it
doesn't work and you know, blah blah blah, and then
she um she runs away and we see Leah and
Croff in their ridiculous costumes. This is Groff's second episode also,
and he's in a bird her and she passes out
(11:02):
in the cafeteria and we so she ends up should
we cut to her in the nurse's office, right, and
such a sweet scene. I think the scene is beautiful, beautiful,
And we haven't seen Quinn and Mercedes together either. It's
like the budding relationship and friendship that they have. And
(11:25):
Quinn tells her that she's like, eat the granilla bar.
She's like, I'm not hungry, and she's like, yes, yes
you are. I've been there. And then she says, M,
did they start looking like food before you passed down?
She's like, M, been there. And Quinn tells her that
her relationship to food changed when she got pregnant because
(11:48):
she's realizing she's doing everything she can to fuel her
body for this little thing. Then why can't she do
that for herself? And I thought that was really beautiful.
I think that's an incredibly well written line. Yes, I've
been thinking about that line all day because how that
translates to a lot of us when we get cut
up in fad diets and things about if you're willing
(12:09):
to do this for somebody else and make sure everybody
else is eating correctly, like why aren't we yeah doing
that or caring about ourselves. It's one of those moments
where we were just addressed as desserts and then all
of a sudden, you have Amber sitting there, Mercedes sitting
there crying right talking about her body, and then Quinn
(12:30):
saying yeah, like yeah, I get it, And here's why.
It was a really powerful moment and one that because
you know, I think Paris made a point of doing
this in every episode to balance that out perfectly. Yeah,
where you still believed both realities. Yeah, and like again,
we're now tackling eating disorders, we're tackling kind of weight loss,
(12:54):
we're tackling all of this. Like Quinn's line about saying
like she's lucky because she's always been home in her
body and don't not to let suit take that away
from her. I mean, it was so beautiful and it
really resonated with me because, like I obviously in this industry,
like I've struggled with my body and just seeing yourself
on camera every day it's like jarring, and um, you know,
(13:17):
having Emma like my body, my body has changed my
mentality in the fueling of my body and also like
nutrition wise, like wanting to eat well, not for weight loss,
but to eat to fuel myself so that like I
can have I can live a long life. That's really
like the way I look at it now, it's just
so crazy but very existential. But um, it's really it
(13:40):
was really beautifully done. As you said. Now we get
to we're cutting, we're cutting a head a bit, but
we're just getting through this whole Mercedes beautiful Mercedes storyline
(14:01):
where Tracy Pendergrass shows up and Sue was expecting a woman,
right and he shows up with the PEP rally and
the interview and Mercedes switches up the plan and she
decides to come out and take Quinn's advice and sing,
(14:22):
you know, says, cherios aren't about you know, looking caught
and you know, being cool, but like actually just really
loving each other and loving ourselves and learning how to
do that every day. So meanwhile, Sue's freaking out because
Tracy Pendergrass said that this is going to be like
a hard hitting expose, and then the number that she
(14:44):
had planned doesn't happen. Mercedes comes out and god yeah
and sings this number and gets the glee club and
some fellow classmates to come up and sing with her
and this, and then Amber does this beautiful one hundred number.
Beautiful huh see what I did there? And I remember
(15:05):
shooting this and just being so proud of Amber. I
think we shot this towards the end of the episode,
maybe that this at home, and just watching Amber kind
of do this whole performance was really It's just fun
to be able to watch your friends do things that
like stretched them. And you know, Amber can wail and
do sing about just about anything, but like to watch
her actually act and hold this episode was like really beautiful. Yeah, tears,
(15:29):
she was providing tears. She was providing tears, and I
know she was nervous about that too, so um. And
then we get to the office the next day where
Tracy says she's going to continue this interview next the
next day and she's office and you know, it says
that he admitted that he hadn't liked Sue since in
that minuting matter, and the fact that she called him
(15:51):
rerun twice made him think that she was a little
bit racist. Moving on and then yeah, and then she
realizes he realizes that he was wrong, right, and says
that seeing that performance and seeing how he's she's teaching
her cheerios to be inclusive and positive about these things
(16:16):
that are not always respected and thought positively of in
that cheerio cheerio world. And she's like, well, yeah, m
I did that on purpose. Yeah, And then we have
this moment of her admitting that he was wrong to
Mercedes about the cheerios, and we know the stakes of
trying to fit in right, which is really nice. They
(16:38):
have such a great friendship, do they really? Do? We
fall in love with Marchine? So meanwhile, Sue has blocked
out the entire auditorium just to I don't know, mess
with Shoe because it's too cold outside her cheeros to
be rehearsing. So she has a sign up sheet in
(17:00):
her waistband and says that Will can't use the auditorium
after he confronts her about it, and the whole week
is reserved just for the cheerios taken away from their home.
If you exactly displacing them. So when Will shares us
(17:22):
with the Glee Club, Rachel recommends a sit in, Puck
recommends that they torched the place, but mister Shoe takes
upon himself to make a promise that he's going to
find them a new home for the week. Shoe goes
to the roller roller Rink, which in real life in
La Moonlight Rollerway that we It's in every movie you see,
(17:43):
every TV show you see. If there's all, that's the one.
They have a great LGBT and Iron Wednesdays. You should
go check it out. Yeah, it's great. I've been several times. Yes,
um and lo and behold who's at the roller rink?
Pulling focus on the main stage. But Kristen Chenno with
aka April Rhodes And she's like, well, Schuster, I just
(18:08):
had a sex stream about you, and then queues up
a song Fire by Bruce Springsteen, hands him a mic
that's bedazzled, bedazzled with flames, ready for the song, and
they sing this great number. I would just like to
point out again how good Christen Chenno is as a singer.
(18:28):
I mean, I will say there are a lot of
musical theater people I mean she has her master's an opera. Yeah,
she's classically trained who cannot do everything what she does,
she can adapt to any style of song. She is
singing on that Bruce Springsteen song, she cut out her
vibrato entirely. Yeah, she's like Jesse Mahler. Yeah, she's just
(18:52):
singing this like pop rock song. Yeah, she made it
a pop song, but it's, you know, rock song. And
it's just very very very very impressive. She sings so
many different genres in this one episode, and she sings
them differently each time. Yes, she does what is called
for in the song she called. We call that versatility. Yeah,
(19:12):
it's just so I'll never get over it because it's
so hard to be able to do that. Yeah, she
can do anything with her voice. Yeah, yeah, Plato. It's
really crazy. And she's a great actress as well. Because
we get into this scene where Will sees April and
this like hero, I thought you were getting sober. She says,
I was so chatted about so bring up and studying
(19:33):
a new life that I had to stop at a
bar and get a drink just to calm down. And
then she lived at the bar for four months, right,
and then she admits that she's actually running this roller
rink because she's a new mistress of Buddy Leewwitz, who
is a strip mall tycoon, and Wills like, oh, well
(19:53):
we need I'm a temporary space for the glee club.
And she's like, oh, bring him here, no big deal.
And then Will tells April that he has to sublet
his apartment because he's getting divorced. And this divorce, does
that mean you're free to date? And by date I
mean sleep with people, and by sleep with I mean
have sex with people people like me. Kidding, not really,
(20:16):
And so she's offering, it's so good, she's offering to
sublet his place. And it's like, I'm gonna need to
come see the funk Hua or fing fong whatever it's called. Oh,
and so she is gonna weazle her way into going
to his home. Then mister Shu was like, Hey, new directions.
(20:40):
I got the roller rink and we're gonna go perform there.
Rehearse there, right, And then Kurt addresses the glee club.
He says, mister Shu has something to say, and he
just says that we all need to find a sense
of place and that everybody's feeling. He's kind of like
naming it all, Like, you know, Finn is feeling upset
(21:02):
that their their parents are dating and you know, um,
well we'll get into that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he
breaks into the song. Well he goes through Brad and
uh sings houses not at home? Do you actually just
have the sheet music sitting there on the piano ready?
But he knew, Yeah, that's how it works, say, and
(21:25):
it's it's an uncomfortable performance. He's emotional, he's like working
through things and Finn's like, what is happening? Right? But
then which I forgot about, we cut to Finn singing
in this number, Finn singing, his tradition of singing to
enimate objects continues, and he somehow makes it work for
(21:46):
him because God blessed Scory, like you you know, he
can make anything work. But of course he had to
sing to the chair and to the urn of his
his late father. Um, it was weird. It was weirder
than him singing to the ultrasound. Definitely, at least it
was quick. It was really quick. No, no, yeah, I
(22:06):
would also say I in this episode, I noticed a
lot Corey's physicality and he was a twenty something year
old man playing a sixteen year old right, and I
feel like he does such a good job of embodying
the physicality of like a teenager. Okay, Golden Retriever, I
don't know how my body moves yet. Yeah, goofy, goofyman Coverston,
(22:30):
You're right, Yes he didn't. He didn't quite inhabit his body,
but Corey did so exactly. Finn didn't. All right, So
we get to April. Okay, you take this, Kevin, because
this is your favorite. This is maybe my favorite song
ever in this show. I know nobody understands this. Maybe
(22:53):
it's top three, I don't know, it might be number one.
I love this number. I love it because I think
it is such an excellent mashup and the arrangement of
the song, the harmonies of this number are I don't know,
(23:14):
I don't know what it is. And I will also
say watching this um actual number in the show, Paris's
music video directing fully comes in handy here. Yeah, because yes,
the way this is so simple but yet choreographed so perfectly, Like,
never did I ever think I would be so enthralled
(23:34):
with people laying in bed belting for their lives. Yea
and it's beautiful and how it cuts together. It's fully
music video. This is absolutely someone who knows musicality and
music video. Yes, that's all I kept thinking, I haven't
but I haven't heard this song in a long time,
like unlike you, And so I was reminded with a
(23:55):
slap in the face with how good number. That's how
good it is? Yeah, you get struck with it across
the face. Yep, it is a masterclass. And I think
this scene too, right before leading up to it, when
April shows up at Will's house, it's like, I'm gonna
check it out, and he's like, you can sleep on
the couch. I'm not really cool with this, but no
funny business sleeping on the couch, and she's like dressed
(24:18):
in this crazy outfit, bought her bag. She brings out
a bottle of wine, and then it goes into this
really obviously it's weird. They're singing to each other in
the house. Whatever, well, right, we'll buy it. And then
it's this really beautiful moment for both of them feeling
displaced and this house. They're both around people, they're not
(24:38):
that comfortable within this house, but lonely and how they
can find It's also one of those things too, where
this song the lyrics really don't apply to their situation,
but the power of music, of how you can pull
from a song what you need to to apply to
(24:59):
your life is what's happening. And I just think, you know,
Adam Andrews some crazy work on the arrangement. Yeah yeah
it Um, Kristen and Matt just sounds so good together.
I mean, two Broadway stars right there. Yeah, but that's
(25:19):
like it doesn't necessarily sound like no, no, a musical
theater song singing is you're right between? Yeah, it is
somewhere between, and it is theatrical. It's over the top,
but there you just put that song on. You just oh,
that's so funny. I an't about watching the video at
some point because I think that also will inform me
(25:42):
in a different um anyway. Okay, so so after this
beautiful number, that's one of three. Now, I know we
can break it down if you want. The April tells well,
Will says that um at the roller rank that they
shouldn't a habit of sleeping in the bed together. And
then Will says, what do you do in April? Like
(26:04):
you deserve more than being someone's mistress and deserves to
find happiness and hope, and you know he really has.
I hoped for her. And so April tells Will that
she's going to go break up with buddy. Is this
where Chris got injured at the roller rink? By the way,
everybody's explained his wrist or something. I think you're right.
I think you're right. The new directions are not rehearsing,
(26:25):
they're just skating. Well, we're trying to stay alive. Yea,
his reality and I at least had big wheels. I
had you to hold on to, whereas other people didn't.
And do you see Harry go down? I don't think
that was fake. I was very appreciative that I got
to sit in the chair. I hate roller skating because
I'm so bad. It's hard. It's hard, and I was
(26:47):
scared um, but I was laughing because it was such
a It was a fun day for us because we
get we weren't had no lines. It just got to
like be there and actidally and do some physical comedy
and not die. I love too that this was sort
of Groff's introduction to being part of the league club.
We're like welcome to not having any lines, and you're
(27:08):
just an all DC. You're just hanging You're just saying um.
So okay. So then we cut to April showing up
at Will's office and she's like what. He's like, what
you're doing here? And she she told him that she
broke up with Buddy or she and then and then
he had a stroke in front of her and died.
(27:32):
And she's rich. She got two million dollars. So she's
sobering up and heading to the Broadway where she's gonna
Mount Mount, the first all white Productional I didn't know
April was racist? Is the turn of events, and the
turn a dark turn of events. April is not it's
(27:57):
not good. It's not. Um. But but in in in
April Roses roses defense and I'm not defending her. I'm
just saying she is offensive. Yeah, there are character is offensive. Yeah,
but again, I don't think that would fly. We wouldn't
(28:17):
be making that joke now, No, no, because it's not
a joke. Um. And then and then she's not a
Rachel's I did you tell them that? Um? April Rhodes
has bought the auditorium, she has bought our home back
for us, and it is named the April Rhodes Civic Pavilion.
Um fun fact, I think Kristen actually has a theater
(28:40):
named after her in her hometown or surrounding town nearby.
That's awesome. Um, and then we'll get to that last
number yeah later, but um. So the other storyline happening
in this is the good old storyline Kurt and love
with Fenn thing. So what happens is Kurt Kurt rolls
(29:06):
up to Finn after leagu club one day and ask
for advice for redecorating his bedroom and Finn's like, I
have no idea, like why are you asking me? In
like points to something. Meanwhile, Finn's mom, Carol, is all
of a sudden selling Finn's late dad's stuff, and when
(29:26):
it comes to recliner, Finn freaks out and it's like, no,
that's not for sale, Like why are you doing this?
This is dad's chair. It's the only picture I have
of him with me. He's holding me in that chair,
and Carol's like, it's not it's a chair, it's not him.
And then Carol says like, look, also, Carol's dressed completely differently.
All of a sudden, she's she's no longer in the
(29:52):
acid washed jeans and best and Carol's says, I've been
seeing someone and I'm in love and the person I've
been seeing is Kurt's dad Bert, and so Finn then
confronts Kurt about it, and it's like, what's going on
with our parents? And then Kurt says, like, didn't you
(30:13):
notice anything's different about your mom her look? Before? You know,
like they'll be living together and redecorating their room together,
hence why he was asking this. So Kurt has been
planning this whole thing as a way to, you know,
get closer to Finn, Jenna, do you I don't know
(30:33):
what I was doing, But I don't remember Kurt being
in love with Finn being such a huge storyline. I
don't know why I have no recollection of this. Yes,
I agree, it does become short lived because of Kurt,
Carol and Burt, I think, and it no longer flies
when like their parents are actually together. But you're right,
(30:56):
I don't quite And maybe it's because they were just
shooting so much off to the side. We were never
really there, like we weren't at the breadsticks scene, like
we didn't watch these things until we saw them when
the episodes came out, So maybe it's just because we
weren't part of it. I think I also like thought
this whole Kurt, I mean this Carol and oh god, Carol, Kurt, Bert,
(31:19):
I know, I know, I know Carol and Burt think
happened later in season two. Agreed also, but they they
do live on So that's why I think we set
you know, Burton Carroll quite a bit. So. But yes,
I think a lot of this feels like the back
nine feels like a far off dream from the first
thirteen day we did. Um and so mad. Yeah, He's like,
(31:47):
I like my house, I'm not moving, I'm not selling
that damn chair. And and Finn's very resistant towards all
of this, but they obviously he's a kid, so he
has to go do what his mom says. And they
go to breadsticks on a double date with Kurt, Finn
and their parents, and we were moving to bread sticks.
So glad I didn't have to do breadsticks. Um, Finn says,
(32:10):
you know, makes this off kind of like, oh, we're
not a family, and you know, in response to like
I think Bert saying something, and and then Burt and
Finn like Bert wins Finn over with his charm talking
about sports, and you can see that like Kurt is
commenting on Carol's clothes and you know, the thing that
(32:31):
they kind of bonded over and her makeover, and now
Kurt's very hurt about Finn and Bert getting along, and
we see this beautiful scene between Kurt and Burt where
he's like, I feel, you know, I left felt left
out and sad, and Bert's like, of course, I love
(32:54):
you like you're my son. Like we don't try to
change each other. That's our relationship. They have a very
open and communicative, communicative relationship, as we've learned, and a
little guy talk with some other kid isn't going to
change that. And then Kurt says guy talk, I'm a guy,
and Bert says, you know what I think. But I
(33:16):
thought that was really powerful though, like Kurt's saying like,
I'm a guy. Yeah. I think it's important that these
scenes are a little messy, like yeah, yeah, not everybody's
saying the perfect thing all the time, but there's an understanding.
Really their intentions are in the right place. And then
Bert says, suddenly, I'm not the guy who sat through
River Dance three in a row. It's so cute though,
(33:40):
because they do think the best of each other most
of the time, and they do bring out like that
that really deep good part of each other. So and
that's why I think it's very sweet. Um. And then
Kurt's like, maybe it is too soon that you started dating,
and Bert says it's been eight years. And then the
(34:00):
really kind of questions, which because he can see right
through his son obviously in question why he set him
up with Carol in the first place. That was good.
Wasn't it to make me happy? M hmm. Kurt tells
Finn that, mmmm, this isn't gonna work. We need to
break them up, and Finn could tell it hurt. Kurt
admits he doesn't like seeing his mom move on either,
(34:21):
and Finn agrees, and they shake hands and like, okay,
let's put an end to them. Right Then Finn threatens
to throw his dad's ashes down the toilet. He takes
the ash. He's like, oh, I'm just gonna like I
can do this too. You've been doing it, and so
it's great. Yeah, I think Carol, oh my gosh, just roam, gosh,
(34:41):
just really going says that they can do what they've
been doing for the past ten years, which is pretending,
and she reveals she hasn't felt this way about anyone
since his dad and he's being selfish, tells Finn that
she loves him and that they need a family and
a home. And I thought it was really powerful when Finn,
(35:05):
you know, says this isn't what dad would want, and
she's like, you don't know him, and that's tough, Like
it's it's still crazy to me. This is the same show,
yeah that you know, not that we're dressed in cupcakes
and cupcakes and things, and a really powerful, I think
(35:27):
hard to articulate thing that people go through all the time. Well,
that's dealing with the parents that's passed away at an
early age, right. I think that's really what's so powerful
Luckley though, is like you hit these really hard hitting
situations and it's you know, like social issues and um,
you know, eating disorders and you know, loss and grief
(35:48):
and and then you break into song into Madonna and
Bruce Springsteen and like, no studio these days if you
pitched a show like that, unless you're Ran Reffe would
be like, yeah, I get that, Like you'd be like,
that's two different shows, right. I think even then they
were like Ryan being like believe me, no. Yes. So
(36:09):
the storyline starts to wrap up when Bert all of
a sudden, is at Finn's house and they have this
man to man in the kitchen and it's very tense
and they're both like I have a lot to say.
I have a lot to say, and m Bert's like,
well I don't have that much to say, so I'll start.
And he's like, I will never hurt your mom. I
(36:33):
love her. Your dad was a hero. I would like
to be a hero for your mom as long as
she wants me to be. Michael Malley Man, Yeah, there's
just there's something beautiful about the simplicity with Romy and
Mike doing these scenes where it's let me just let
me just say these words because you know they're not
(36:55):
doing some huge, um extravagant let me show you how
good of an actor I am. They're good because it's
true how they're saying it. Yeah. So then Finn just
sort of wraps it up. He's like, oh, okay, well
I was just gonna ask if you want to watch
a game. Yeah. I mean he hears it, he doesn't
have to admit it. But he hears, you know, Burt
(37:17):
in what he says, and and then um, you know
they He's like, no, you wait, you can sit here
in the chair. He moves. The scene is almost completely perfect,
almost and then almost too Kurt standing outside the window.
I'm surprised wasn't raining on the on the window raining? Yes, right,
(37:39):
Kurt standing at Finn's house, crying like he might as
well have been an adjacent mask, like what what is
what is happening? Why? That like sweet moment, and then
it just pans to him in this gigantic windows. Very
do you not see him? He's very funny. It's very funny.
(38:00):
It's so creepy. It's so creepy. So we get to
the final moment of this episode is us in the
auditorium behind Chris and Chennewith where she sings home in
(38:20):
the new April World Civic Pavilion. That's right, and she
comes on in this beautiful gown. Now she's rich done jewels,
and we're all we're all her choir, which happily we are,
you know, swaying and singing with her in her backup
singers that beautiful scrim lifts and you see this beautiful
(38:41):
clouded sky in the background that is lit beautifully. It
look stunning. I think it looks so good. Are you
just it makes me uncomfortable having like a white person
sing this song right right? It feels weird, right it's
it's so beautifully done. And I wasn't even thinking of that.
(39:03):
Thank you for that? Um right. I don't know why.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm I don't but I I
mean so yeah, Okay. When I think of this, I
think of Amber at the White House and Michelle Obama
singing this song. It's an incredibly written song. Are the
Wiz is incredible? This is an incredible song, right, Um?
(39:25):
But it just feels it feels so fair enough, strange,
fair enough? Um but I do love this song. Also,
if anyone hasn't seen Jasmine Sullivan singing this song on
YouTube at eleven years old in the A Whiz production
of her at her school, go look it up. Have
(39:49):
you seen it, Jenna? No, but I saw you storied
about it. I watch it monthly. O Jasmine Sullivan at
eleven years old done. It's unbelievable. I don't understand. But
she's a prodigy. Obviously, it was a prodigy like I
just whatever anyway, Okay, that's home. That Okay, let's do
(40:13):
it so cringe moments aka special shout out to Paris
for Auchiese. This episode, there's a couple lines. I mean,
I would say the whole mounting and all white production
of the Whiz, right. I think that was the one.
Not a great look. I think the um the line
(40:35):
with Becky earlier in the episode about vombiting and having
an eating disorder, it's not great, you know. I think
having Mercedes lose weight there's great things. Well, yeah, I
mean her Sue talking about, you know, Becky gonna be
you know, a volimic. It's it's like, we're not. Yeah,
(40:56):
we're not. That's not really how we handle things anymore. Um.
Been singing to the chair? Oh did you say that one? Yeah?
That's that's a good one. That's the one. UM. Worse
dance move. Um, I don't know, And I don't think.
There wasn't a lot of dancing, right. We weren't a
(41:16):
lot of group numbers either, So no, okay, UM, I
think maybe singing to the Urn still counts in that
category as well. M M. Best song home, but now
you made me rethink it. No, because the song is
good and christ and Chenowitz is but beautiful. Also, I mean,
like anything ever sing is obviously is wins. I mean,
(41:40):
obviously I'm going to pick my favorite number of all
the time. Oh, I have been embarrassing things to admit. Yes,
I had never heard the song home before we filmed
this episode. Oh no, I feel like there's a lot
of edumicating happening here. Well I must have. I had
seen the win, so I must have, but I didn't
(42:02):
know it, like it was not on my radar sort
of thing. Fair enough, Yeah, best performance by a prop,
the arn, the arned, the arn is good. I also
have to say the bedazzled nikes really stood out to me.
They were beautiful. They reminded me of like of course
Christens on TOURZ. Yeah. Okay, and then the best line. Okay,
(42:26):
So in the last last episode, I thought the line
about the you know curtain Mercedes having their own Bravo
show was in Madonna, but it's actually in this episode.
How do you guys not have your own Bravo show? Say? Um,
what else is there, Kevin? What there's a I'm just
(42:46):
gonna rattle off a couple of incredible ones Britney saying
I think my cat is reading my diary. It's a
good one. Um Puck mouthing, defend you're gay, oh Bert
saying I hate Duke like a hate the Nazis. Yeah,
I think is absolutely incredible. Yea, and then Kurt saying
(43:06):
I feel like the guy who set up Liza David guest.
You know it's very niche and specific, but that's right. Delicious,
delicious yummy. Okay. So Jenna, um shit we found on
the tiktoks this week, tell me um this incredible video.
(43:29):
I just it's how Glee would sound in real life.
Glee thing posted it, okay, And it's one of those
videos where you just you have random clips of the
show and then you have the real sounds. It's silent,
basically like it's like splashes in the pool. No, it's
(43:49):
it's very good. You have pulled it up and watch
this thing. I'm pulling it up like some music playing
in the hallway. You have no because like kids randomly
seeing in the hallway just like yeah, kids talking around
(44:14):
them like what is happening? No, this is so awkward.
It's so good. Yeah, you have to the sneakers, you
guys got We'll go to the Glee thing TikTok um
and watch it. How Glee that sounded real life. It's excellent.
Thank you for tagging us in that. It's it's a
(44:38):
minute of pure joy. Very good, very very good. It's
very funny. Well that's home. That is home. Um you guys,
don't forget the walkathon for Alexandria House um I Transitional
Home for Women and children and many many other supportive
services here in La. They're having a walk withth on
so um. If you can't be there, you can donate
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if you can, or find other ways that you can help.
Alexandra House dot org. And that is Home. Join us
next week for bad review Days. There's so much to
on back, so much too on time. We've had such
a good run. I can't wait to talk about this episode. Well,
(45:24):
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