LS Episode 537: From Bravo to Ballots (feat. Dr. Heavenly Kimes)

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What type of slip service. I'm Mandela Yee, I'm Gg Maguire,
I'mordie George.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
And I'm doctor Heavenly. Time man.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Well, first of all, Doctor Heavenly, I just want to
say congratulations. I was excited when I found out that
you were running for Congress in Georgia.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yes, that's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
And I also saw that your numbers, your polls are amazing.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, you know, I'm a numbers person. So before I
decided to run for Congress, I actually did a poll
and I statistically tied for number two before I even
announced my candis.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Wow, that's like you got to say.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I know in my district, like every county in my district,
I've actually owned a practicing so the people know you.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
And I saw you talking about you actually were inspired
by your son and that was a big plot on
Married to Medicine where you didn't know he got arrested
until much later your husband knew you didn't know.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
So tell us about why that was an inspiration for you.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, I think that it's a testimony because so many
black men are and a live by police officers in
situations that could be you know, uh, he was he
was the rest of that gunpoint. You know, he did
some things that he shouldn't have done. I mean, I'm
not saying the cops were even wrong, but I'm just grateful.
Then my son is okay, you know. And actually when
he went to the jail, the cop knew my husband

(01:20):
because my my husband worked in the er and he had,
you know, saved his life and he recognized the name
Wow and they called Damon Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
It's fortunate for him, absolutely because another way, you know,
And on the show they act.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Like I'm running from and no, it's a testimony.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm just so grateful. I thank God every day.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I've heard some of the ladies be like, oh she
did know how she didn't know about it?

Speaker 4 (01:42):
How?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
You know, because you're goin so fast, like you know,
my husband handled it, you know what I'm saying. And
it didn't come up to the court docors ten years later.
So when I saw it on Twitter, I see stuff
all the time. I saw that, you know, me and
my husbands getting a divorce on Twitter. I knew wasn't true,
you know what I'm saying. So I see stuff that's
not true all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, I want to ask they'll be because clearly that
upset you, that secrecy of him not telling you that.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
How do you guys get I honestly, it did not bother.
I don't know where y'are getting it from.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I thought that he was protecting my husband. No, I
hat a damn food. So he was like, rather than
take her through that, you know what I'm saying, Just
he just handled it and just kept it moving.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
But what did you rather he tell you than social media?
Because I also feel there's.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
That I don't think he thought that through because he's
not he's not on social media at all, and he
swept under the road. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yes, So this year, because you're running for office, you
also have taken a step back on the show, Mary,
but I still feel like your presence is very absolutely
you know, do you feel that you're moving differently because
I also think I'm trying.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I'm trying to move differently. But I mean I walk
in the building, they like, don't sit there. You can't
do that, you know, And they're trying to challenge me
on every step. And I hate to say, I got
so frustrated with some pone because she screamed at me.
Everybody says she screams all the time. But that night
when she screamed at me and she grabbed my arm,
I was like, I'm about to slap this shit.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I need to go.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I need to go, because you don't yell at somebody
then grab them, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Like me and I think sometimes we watch it on
TV and it may not look as serious as it
felt in person.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
And sometimes it's the hug her and Quad wasn't that
serious because it was actually a joke about the bend number.
Simone looks stuff up, you know what I'm saying. She
looked up people houses, but then she get the information wrong,
so we laugh at someone some more. It's okay that
you look it up and get the right information right.
So then she said, well I look out up in
and we laughing and keep kidding about it. I told
what Quad flipped out. But then she is on those

(03:44):
those those shots to have a baby, you know what
I'm saying, Son, I.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Also think that's a sore spot for quiet because people
know that they could come for her when it comes
to like, you know, they kind of poke at her about.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
That, and I know that that's about her finance, about
her financials.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I think that people wonder how she can have a
house better than all eyes, a car better than all lies.
You know, I'm saying, but Quad is actually really good
with money. And if you look at it, and I'm
not this is no shot at Simone. Quad ain't got
no kids, so we ain't got nobody running up for
sixty thousand dollars credit card. You know what I'm saying.
We don't have nobody in college that you gotta pay
the college us and it's just her.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Now that's a sort of spot for Simone.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I did.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
I would say I did feel for her in that episode, absolutely,
her son and her husband and her feeling unappreciated with everything,
and I was I was thinking, maybe she's just emotional
about her own personal things that she's going through.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
The interesting thing about that is we don't see it.
I did not know Simone had that scene. I mean,
she need a golden glow. That was the most realest
scene I've ever seen on TV.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Scene.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I'm just saying it was raw. It was so emotional
and it was so heartfelt because so many black women
go through the same things. All of us have a
situation where we do not agree with our husbands. You
know what I mean. I just don't put it on TV.
You know what I'm saying. And they mad. Let me
tell you why they're mad, because when they Heavenly come through,
they said, well, Heavenly well, what they don't suffer blood

(05:07):
and slit their wrish all over the show And they
asked me, Heavenly well, how is your marriage? It is perfect?
I have sex every night. I'm lying. I don't have
a coronary. I just don't shoot. You know what I'm saying.
They think Jackie's not coming off her pedestal. Heavenly can

(05:30):
cross the line and she's not gonna disrespect her husband.
We're not gonna argue on TV if I can help it.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Do we argue? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Is any marriage perfect? Absolutely not. Do we fuss about
the kids?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Me and I actually understand Cecil, because if I had
to do it all over again, I might have done
some things differently. But we I said this the other night.
We give our kids a soft life and then we
push them out into a hard world and we want
them to be able to survive, and we're hard on them,

(06:02):
and they're just not like us. They're not equipped mentally
at all. Do what we can do, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
So yeah, I also think kids today are just like
they do, get a lot. We were kind of raised
a lot more tough too.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I had to get my own stuff. If I didn't work,
like I said, you're running for Congress. If I didn't
get the peil grant or loans because they're trying to
take away the loan, I wouldn't be here today. I
wouldn't be here. You know. The kids got it easy
and they think it's easy. Know, we worked hard for that.
So I'm feeling someone with all of my soul.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
And I do think that there's these conversations about mental
health that we were not having and also about like okay,
we're going to take a mental health and we didn't
have that we did, you know, even like being an intern.
I remember being an intern and being like, nowadays you
can't have interns do stuff like go get your dry cleaning.
They'd be like, oh, when I was intern, I was

(06:56):
picking up dry cleaning, I was doing all the new
work with was rolling up. But that was before even
well working for Boutang, it definitely was a lot of
like you know, yeah, but it was a great experience
for me, you know, And I think that being multi
faceted because you never were doing what your job description
was supposed to be. You were doing everything, and now

(07:19):
it's like that's not in my job description or I
can't do that.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I have to do work for me, do whatever I
think they need to because to me, you know, I
think that I pay well, So I feel like you
should do everything if I need you as an assistant.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
How is okay?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
So running for congress when you win, because we got
to manifest win. So what happens with your practice then?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Because now my son is actually in dental school, he'll
be graduating here, so he's taking it over. But but
you know, in a congressional space and it's congression, you're
half the time, you're still in your additional so I
can actually work out something, actually give your schedule from
what I understand, and you can kind of you know,
still see patients and do everything and make sure you
I mean, I'm multifaceted anyway, you know what I'm saying,

(08:02):
So I can do more than one thing. Yeah, but
he's a.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Grown you know. So speaking of which, I love watching
The Law Girl. Yes, that's my baby girl.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh Yeah, that's your mini me. So she's my Michael
and I ain't even talk about nobody kids. But she's
the one that is spoiled, that talks back that, you know,
my boys, my husbandould jacked them up, you know what
I'm saying. But she gets murder murder with me.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Nice to be the little girl.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Over the years, I've definitely been a fan of the
show since season one, just really watching her go from this.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I have two kids, you know, I have two boys
and a girl. Yeah, and a brother.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, I have a brother. Let's tell let's talk about it.
That scene you found out about this brother.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Let me give you the whole forty five.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Out.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Now.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
What happened was my dad was in the military, right,
and so I remember vaguely that you know, him and
my mom used to fight about a woman named Eddie Jean.
You know what I'm saying. I remember that. I'm saying,
I remember that like you know and Brenda Belinda. I
heard these names before when I was little, but I
didn't know what it was. When my daddy actually died,
one of his sons outside the marriage came to the funeral,

(09:12):
but my sister acted a fool, so he got his
stuff and he left and he was a football player.
Now that was that brother's brother.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Now his brother passed away not too terribly long before
I met him. But then I was in my office
one day and they said, well, heavenly, there's someone here
that says he's your brother. I said, let him pay
the fee, you know what I'm saying, and he could
come back and talk to me, you know, And he
was dwell off or you know. I did a lot
of dinner work on him and I said, you're my brother,
and he was like, yeah, I know your He knew

(09:40):
my grandmother, my aunt's and he was in lying. I mean,
I remember his brother name was Larry. You know what
I'm saying. I remember those names because he came to
my dad's funeral. So I was like, okay, and then
we were going to do a DNA test. But then
when I saw his son, his son looked exactly like
my dad. I mean, we could still do a blood test,
but I, you know, asking me to take care of him.

(10:02):
What I'm saying, Actually he was he's been blessing my
life actually, so yeah, so I'm just happy to have
a brother.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Now.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Do we talk every day? No, but you know, he
calls me, he tells me different things, and it's good
to have a big brother, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
So now that was a really I think, just an
amazing scene for you to film. And I saw some
people were critical of you, calling him like an outside
kid to his face.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I mean interesting enough, I mean yeah, and I'm thinking,
and then it comes out of my mouth, yeah, I think, like, dude,
how did you feel?

Speaker 4 (10:42):
So you questioned his age or whatever, and you're like, oh, wait,
so that means that when you were born, my father
was still married to my mother.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Absolutely, yes, yes, I think that's.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
What I think that if my mother was still alive,
I probably would not have a relationship with my brother.
I didn't even know my my mom's in laws, like
I seen my grandmother maybe four times.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Ever, how does that feel, though, because I think there's
people that go through that today right where maybe they're
not on good terms with you know, the father, say
the father of their children. Yeah, so what do you
think about.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I don't know any different? Like I'm saying, like when
they told me that it was a big deal that
I grew up in a room with no windows, I'm like,
wait a minute, that ain't no big they I grew
up in a room and they were like, Oh, that's
why you so fucked up, you know what I'm saying.
But I didn't think anything of it. So not seeing
my grandmother was normal to me, just like it's normal
for these damn kids to spend money on their spend
what I'm saying, it's normal for them, right, But we

(11:41):
get frustrated and then these men let us believe that
we don't know how to raise men and that we
might not you know what I'm saying. But we have
different parenting sounds and it's always going to be a conflict.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
I feel like this all is helpful to in your
run for Congress. I want to say that just all
the things that you've had to go through, the things
that you're discovering, even being on TV and dealing with that, Oh.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, it makes you hard. Like whatever comes at me
with Congress, I'm prepared for a thirteen years. Reality TV
doesn't prepares you. But not only that, I've seen things
from both sides. I was on the free lunch, you
know what I'm saying. I was on the wick when
I got pregnant in dental school. And the foods, so
I know it was a lifeline for It also.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Makes you more personable.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
You think, yeah, TV and they know you. On another left,
they do. I mean, they really do, and it's really me.
I don't tell my business. I'm a scorpio, So that's
real for me. I can't believe that y'all come on
TV and do all of what y'all doing. I get
with any of the women on there and curse the

(12:43):
mind to do whatever. But I'm not feel disrespect my husband,
and that's my prerogative. Jackie, don't come off a pedestal
if she doesn't want to. And I'm sure somebody got
a line somewhere. I mean Toya don't, but somebody got
a line somewhere. Well, they say, you know what, I'm
not gonna cross this line on TV.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
So you had a real issue with how with how
Toya was speaking to her her husband.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yes, I don't have an issue with it. If she
does not have, if he does not have, if she will,
so I won't even speak on it anymore. If he's
okay with it, I can't even say anything. But we
were uncomfortable. He was like, damn, Toy, your god, calm
and then he came back and apologized to her.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yes he did.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Makes you wonder what the hell are we missing? Yeah,
there's something there, there's something, you know.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I feel like she asked him to do something. He
was joking around about it, but then.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Away she said eye contact like bitch, bitch, bitch, look
at me when I'm talking to you. If that was
the other way around it, that was the man talking
to the woman would have because we didn't even like,
you know, Sweet Tea when her husband was like, you
know what, you know what he said, it would have
been a different thing. Double standards, our brother, they are.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Does anybody still talk to Sweet Tea? Yeah? You have? Okay,
I know I was gonna say so. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Quad is also your campaign manager. Quad my campaign maned
to When I was running for state Rep. My wind
number for state Rep was twenty seven hundred people. We
could have knocked on twenty seven hundred doors. Not that
I'm running for Congress, my wind number goes up to
about thirty four to thirty five thousands. Okay, So now
we needed a team that had experience in politics.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
The reason I made.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Quad, you know, if I could break the fourth wall
was I knew that on television if I had on
my campaign, I would get more airtime, right right, So
she so we may go together and talk about it.
And she's a smart lady. She's a businesswoman and she's
a go getter, so you know, speaking up for me.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Quad was the girl you know, you know as a
business person, the way that you're able to flip not
just being on the show, but also speaking about everything
and having your own platform where you can really be
the authority on what happened on this episode or explaining
what happened here.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I think that's really smart of you. But do they
ever get mad like behind this? But my whole thing
is y'all could do the same thing. Y'all talk about
me like if they come on Angela ye on page six,
they say whatever the hell, and they get on other
people's platform. I'm gonna talk ship.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Doctor Heavenly, get on their YouTube what you want to say,
and they be the producer.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I think they love it because it carries the story
like I'm telling and it's almost therapy for me because
you know, I don't watch the show when it comes on,
so when they ask me questions like I do with Carlos,
Carlos King. I'll just say, you know what actually happened.
And we were like, we didn't see that. We didn't
see someone scream out and say negative things about your husband,
and that's my trick. So all they showed me was say, bitch,

(15:32):
my husband is this that and the other and this
that and the other. And it's like, damn, I went
in on cecil. But then I look back and I
see the scenes. Someone wanted me to go out on
cecil again again because she was pissed with him. So
I was like, damn, I feeling that trap again.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
So you're saying that so she don't got to say, right.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
That's my swear to God, that's what I think. That's
what I think.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I think now, So y'all really have sex every night? Girl?

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Hell know, I like if I as much as as
much as simone does, That's what That's how many tell
I had said as much as she and she now
she not.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
But the six is so great and I'm just sucking
bitch all right.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I don't talk about shit and they don't care for someone.
Let you roll with that, okay, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
But you've been with doctor Damon for over thirty years.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, we've been married twenty eight we've been together probably
thirty two years. Yeah, so that lifetime. Yeah. So so
I understand Simon and Cecil meaning that you go through
ups and downs, how nose. I just don't do the
shit on TV? Right, and they mad because I won't.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I just won't risk my marriage for television. And I've
been like that from day one. Jackie, don't come up
just your par If you do it, you can't be mad.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
That I don't. That's a good lesson for people though,
Because I don't, you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I can get with you.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
You and you.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, that's always like people think that's the curse of
reality TV. They think, oh, it breaks up, it breaks
ups and breaks up marriages. But the truth is, like
when you put certain things out there, it can have
a snowballer and.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
They on Twitter, like Cecil's on Twitter, they're looking at
the comments, they're looking at it, and a lot of
times I remember Tea and Tiny saying this, you weren't
mad until you saw what other people were saying. Right,
dam is not on Twitter. Damon is not, but Cecily
is he retweeting shit? You know what I'm saying, so
he sees the comments and and you come back and
you are. I know people argue about reality TV, but
I also know that sometimes reality TV keeps you together

(17:24):
because you don't want the stigma of a divorce or
people some people feel like it's an embarrassment, like you know,
I'm gonna stay in this marriage because I don't want
to go through the divorce on television.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Right, Yeah, no, I can feel that all right now, listen,
doctor Heavenly.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
First of all, we already knew you were going to
be amazing because you don't hold back when it comes
to anything.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Right.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
So, now if you want to talk about and I
know right now what's the most important thing to you
is running for office, And so what are some things
that you feel like they haven't gotten right right now
in Atlanta and Georgia that you feel like you can actually.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
In my district, in my district, the big beautiful bill,
I keep saying, saying, the big beautiful bill pass, and
our congressman was silent. Right, we're waiting for some kind
of transition, We're waiting for some kind of guidance town
hall on how the people you know, and then when
the government shut down, we heard nothing again. And I'm
out there, you know what I'm saying, doing initiatives, going
with Marta in different places where they're doing food banks

(18:16):
and telling people where to go to get the foods
and stuff like that. There he's not to be found.
And my thing was when the big beautiful bill passed,
I learned it. I understand the Georgia pathway system because
I understand insurance. I understand. I've been doing it twenty
five years.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
You definitely understand.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
They shariance and that's a hot topic and I know
people gonna die when we talk about it. I see
firsthand people cannot afford their dental treatment. My other sees
they can't afford their medical and they're gonna die. And
it's almost like, don't nobody damn it care. And my
district has been left behind the district and you know,
and there are affluent people in my district, but it's
also seventy one percent African American, you know what I'm saying.

(18:52):
So that's how I'm winning the race because it's a
democratic district. When I win the primaries, I've won the election.
You see what I'm saying. And I've had a practicing
every county in the district. I'm the only one on
the ticket. Ken boast that I've lived in that district
twenty five years. I've been giving back to that district.
That's my district.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
I love this because I think this is going to
be encouraging for a lot of people. And I've seen
you say this is really your purpose. It's not you
want to your legacy to be this not reality.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I feel like I was called to do this and
I don't have a charge. I don't have a choice
that I would have never thought. And you know, I
when I was first asked to do it, I said
hell no. I said, hell no, I'm not doing that
because I'm on reality TV. And I don't like when
I went to get an a war for for other
things I've done in the community. At the Capitol building,
you know how to give those proclamations or whatever, they

(19:39):
gave me a proclamation and then one lady said, well,
you know what, you should run for office. I said, girl,
I'm on reality TV. I'm not because if I'd have
thought about I would have not done the things that
said the thing, you know, and when the lady said,
we'll talk to this person and you know, we went
to Mahara where we learned to serve the underserved, and
that's always been in my heart and soul. And I
was like, okay, I can do State Rep. And when

(20:00):
I announce State Rep on television, it went everywhere. I
have five million hits and so people start calling me back. Heavenly,
the congressman is not being seen. He's not been seen.
You need to run for Congress. Your platform's too large.
You can help people, you can use your resources, your
I know they let us a mecca, a black professional absent,
and I know them. You know what I'm saying. I

(20:21):
can make a Medicaid office and allow my colleagues to
volunteer and just promote their business. That are you know,
self interest is the best interests, and we can make
some things happen within the community. And then if you
get the federal funds and you understand money, you've already
penny pitched and stretched dollars by opening business. You understand
federal funds. Now we can make some shit happen. We

(20:43):
can go and look at the We had one of
the largest airports in the world, and we're looking at
taxes and stuff like that. The large nine million people
go through the airport, so you can get a little
federal tax of ten cents. That's nine hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Doctor respond to you when you told him that this
was absolutely?

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Absolutely? When I told him, he said, I thought you
should have been running for Congress from the very beginning,
and he said it before. But I was like, I
don't think you know what I'm saying. Damn is so supportive,
so supportive, speaking up a speagin, but always has been
and everything you know, people say heavily you had nine practices.
I had nine practices because I had a husband that
backed me and everything I ever did. And I love

(21:23):
him for that. I will never disrespect him on television.
My marriage is not for sale. And I said that
since the beginning, what happens.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Two things I want to say Hair.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Number one, I love the fact that somebody told you
should run, because I always feel like, as much as
BE complain about politics and government, we need to be
putting people in position to telling people that we think
would be effective. If it's not you, I want you
to run. I don't think that's right for me, but
you know who I think would be great. And that
the fact that somebody told you that you would be great,

(21:52):
and you listen, because I do think it is a
calling write certain people. You want to get them in
position to get things done, and you want to support
that person. And then this is something that also will
encourage people like to be on the platform that you're on,
and for young black girls and boys and you know,
all girls to see this, this is something that later
on makes them feel like maybe this is something I'm
interested in.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Absolutely, and I can tell you that I've been called
by the colleges and universities to speak to them about
running for politicies. I ain't know nothing anything about running
for politics. But when God had something for you, he
put the people in like you. Now, I got an
amazing team, you know what I'm saying. I just don't
even know how to happen. I have a lot of volunteers,
the children are knocking on doors, all this kind of stuff,

(22:32):
and I don't even know how it happened.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
It was supposed to.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's exactly right. And when you like you say, people
are going to die and we're looking at that big,
beautiful bill, and I understand, and I'm going from I'm
already doing townholls I'm going in in in Clayton County
and they're talking about, well, we have a mental health challenge,
an epidemic down here where forty four percent of the
people in jail are not criminals, they have mental health issues.

(22:58):
I have people in my family close to me with
mental health issues. Is near and dear to the heart
and a big beautiful bill. The people are falling through
the class because you have to have eighty hours of
you have to work eighty hours a month or do communities.
And if you have mental health issues, you can't hold
down a job. If you have autism and you're over eighteen,
you fall through the class. And what are you supposed
to do?

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Die?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yes, you know what I'm saying. They've taken away the
Medicaid funds, so hospitals are closing down and now they
have to drive eighty miles to get there. And we
already dying three times more likely to die in my community,
African American communities, and their voice is not heard. And
like I say again, our congressman has said nothing. I

(23:39):
don't care. What's the reason.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Speak up?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
If you loved past the torch past, the come up
with some solution. Absolutely, and It's just like dentistry. If
you tell me where the pain point is and you're
going in the community, they telling you the answer. They're like, hey,
you know what, I'm a veteran. Four hundred and eighty
thousand veterans in the state of George, right, thousands of
them are homeless. I say, well, what is the solutione

(24:02):
They tell you that we got army bases that are abandoned.
We can make these tiny homes. And they give you
the solution. All they need is the funding to do
it and somebody to listen to, and somebody to realize.
For you, it don't matter what I think. It's about you.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
And the people get in.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
These seats and they leave and they do whatever, and
they never come back. And it is interesting, how like
when I started learning about it, a lady eighty one
years old, she said, heavenly, I understand your credentials. You
could talk about you a doctor all day, with businesses
you ran and all this, that and the other, all
these credentials, right, we don't give a fuck about that.
What we want is somebody that's real and relatable that

(24:39):
we can count on. This is not going to leave
us when you get to Congress, because every time we
support somebody and get there, and do they get there
and they don't come back, you know what I'm saying,
And you know how hard it is to unset and incumbent.
When they get there, they got federal funding, They got
a federal budget where they can send out flyers, they
can do kind of things federally. Then they get campaign
money because they get money from life and stuff like that.

(25:01):
The voter a certain way, you know what I'm saying,
And you know that's the way it's. But a late person,
the average person can't compete.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Hasn't been raising money for you, because I know that's
a whole different monster, and money is important.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I actually came in the game late, but you would
be surprised to support I got with just Harry Grants,
you know what I'm saying. Like somebody from the Maherry
Alumni Association was like, hey, we got a list of
the nine hundred doctors a graduate. All I do is
get on the phone. Heavenly, you called me. They know
me because I'm on TV. They probably you act damn
fool on TV. But listen, you called me.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Understand that I was right.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
So that's how you get some money. You just got
to have a good finance person under you, and we
got it, you know what I'm saying. And my whole
thing is like I get what we call, uh, what
you call earned earned media. Yeah, Fred, When Toya said,
you're not this ABC News, I mean Fox five News, TMZ,

(25:58):
all these companies say, you know what, heavenly we saw
your American medicine. What's going on? Then I say, well,
you know what, let me tell you my platform. And
while I'm running, why run? So it's it's free right there,
the free media. Yes, I'm gonna do my launch in
front of the Capitol Building in the hot sun, in
the parking lot because I want you to see, and
that's where you're supposed to. Y'all gonna talk shit about it,
but people gonna see it, right. And then I said,

(26:21):
you know what, all these ladies said positive things, So
all the shit we doing for reality TV, I'm gonna
record they answers, the positive shit they really think. So
I'm gonna put it out there, the positive stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Right.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
So when they played it and people say, well, you know,
it was only one person that was really against it,
and I didn't know why she was so fucking mad
about it. Yeah, na, kind of not you bitch, You're not.
And it's state rep meaning I'm I'm it's a sacrifice.
You know that y'all pays twenty eight thousand dollars a
year And I'm going out of my way and you

(26:50):
mad cause I'm doing this for my community. Why you're mad?
I will never live in your community, bitch. You ain't
but one economic downturn from being them my community spending
the way you do, not to one.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
I want to ask the positive note, who do you
feel out of the ladies on besides marriage, Who do
you feel like who's been the most supportive in your Definitely?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Quad?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Definitely Jackie. Jackie gave you know so much money and time.
Angel is amazing, Brandy is good. Uh who else, said Mimi,
Oh my gosh, she has besides Jackie? You named all
the newcomers, the newcomers, newcomers, only two people that have

(27:46):
Initially Simone was supported. She did give them my campaign.
I thank her for that, but but then after we
fell out, mean to me, and one thing that we've
done on married in medicine is support one another. And
when when when Toy was doing the whin we stood
behind her. You know what I'm saying, So what is
definitely you?

Speaker 3 (28:04):
I will say, y'all have done a great jobs.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I understand this was so different. We all talked shit
about each other. You know what I'm saying. It ain't
like I'm just the only one. So why y'all so
mad I'm running for state?

Speaker 3 (28:17):
What made you change your mind and go on the
girl's trip because I changed my mind?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Well, it looks like, let me tell you a little bit.
And I'm gonna tell you this, and and you know,
Mimi's a psychiatrist, right and she says you need a
mental break Sometimes. Y'all don't know what I was going through.
That's probably one of the most emotional seasons I've ever had,
you know, with the stuff that was going on with
my son. I did not know what someone was going through, right,
So when the people told me that you need to

(28:43):
have compassion for Simone, do y'all know I ain't seen
my fucking son. I don't give a fuck. I did
not know what someone was going through. But whatever it was,
it couldn't have been worse than and it wasn't to me.
To me, so when Simone got so mad about a
being number one. You know, I just be fucking round.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I don't care him, And I think people should know
that about you, about.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
What was ever going on in her life, And if
I would have known, I don't see what she films.
She told me a little bit, but I didn't know
all of it. So when some moone snapped out and
and I and I, you know, I think you know
we were filming. So when I got ready to take
a picture because we're promoting Angels scrub line, which we
promote each other stuff, I was like, let's take a picture,
just like take a picture with you and some mothing
I did. Cat she started screaming and she touched my arm, like, bitch,

(29:27):
don't touch me, Please, don't touch me. All I'm going
through right now, you touch me, I'm about to slap this.
And you know when I said, let me come back,
let me just fucking go, because if I feel like
I'm about to shut at you, don't scream at me
in anger and then touch me. That's how I feel,
and right that's how I felt when I found out

(29:49):
did they say? The next day they were talking about
what we're about to go to the girls chair Man
were about to ride a bus six hours to I'm
not getting on the motherfucking bus with these girls. And
they already I don't know what made them try so
hard to come against They don't even know what they're
talking about. Trust me when I say if I'm running
for office, I know what I'm talking about. Right. So
they were trying to challenge me on this. Well, you

(30:09):
know you said when that county has work? Know what
I said was there We was some county, there was
some cities in Gwend that had the lowest test score,
and I'm like, I'm studying this.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
I know.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
What I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Politics is a whole other business. So every single second
people are going to be talking.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
But you don't have to excite disrespect when people screaming
at you and touching you. I will not accept that,
and didn't.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I left.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I extrapulated myself in the situation, right, extrapulated woman spelling
for you like I need a mental break based on
everything I'm going to I'm going to take it, and
I did, and someone took it as I was trying
to get her in trouble or you know what I'm
saying that she.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Said you felt threatened.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I'm not threatened by some own I know some, but
when you scream at me and then you grab my
own know way that you did. Don't do that, not
with them.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
No, And it takes a lot of self control because
I will say that particular scene felt to me like
it wasn't that serious to you, but her it was.
And like you said, it felt like she had some
other things, yes happening, So it wasn't necessarily directed, but
it was just it was a.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Key Simone said about the vendom on television. I don't
know what they played. That was last year. We were
talentating the retalental telling the money for the met Gallop.
We were in Jackie's kitchen and Simone came there.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I looked up Contessa's building and I was like, girl,
you know because I was laughing, and she said she
don't own a bend. I was like what, girl, what?
And I find like Simona looked up the wrong damn address,
you know, and she was like, well, she was like,
I'm the instagate. I looked up in private and yesstergaate okay,
and then she was like, if you give me the
bendomb I look up Quash and we laugh and it

(31:52):
wasn't that deep for me, So of course I'm gonna
quadats my girl.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
It was a your job, and I think that should
be a given too, because they should know that anything
that said about.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
If you said some about Jackie about something she was doing,
do you not think I'm onna teller right and we
on TV that this shit might come up everything, just
like I give some own heads up with some shit
going down.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Do you see this being something that because I feel
like y'all do always manage to get to a space
where you do resolve things right, I don't.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Know, you know, I think that that we have all
have so much history that is personal, Like you did
that to me right now, and I'm running a campaign.
It's not as personal. You see what I'm saying. We've
been together ten, twelve, thirteen years and we know everybody's
everything on camera and all. And I would love to
say that I never said anything that I knew that

(32:41):
was off camera. Only talk about this stuff y'all talk about.
I know you don't want to, but y'all do it
to me and I accepted it. Were like, well, heavenly,
you act like we can't talk about it. You can
talk about my son you got to because it's out
there now you know what I'm saying, you can talk
about I'm not running from shit.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
That's not like very vulnerable for you too.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
It was.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
I feel like when it comes to family, like you said,
your husband and family, you're not putting that at rest
right on TV and you're not giving that. But this
is something you didn't you.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Saint Jackie would have talked about her husband if it
didn't not come out in the blogs. I wouldn't talk
about my son either. If I could have slid this
shit and not known it and it didn't come out,
I want to have said anything. But now that's why
we want to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I got to.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
There's no way I can get around it. I'm not
running from anything, No, I'm not. But rather than waller
and shit and worry about things right, I come out
to make a change.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
How are things with you on your son now?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I talked to him on the phone. He actually moved
out of state. He has something to prove to himself
and me and Dame and my husband. We argue about
the We let you know I learned from some own
Let your husband parent the way that he parents, right,
because men understand men and women understand women. And at
first I was looking at you know, it ain't none
of my business, but I was looking at Ceacyling. I
was like, Cecil's wrong, he shouldn't. But I don't know,

(33:53):
you know what I'm saying. I can understand want of
your kids to have the things that you did not have.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
But I also think but I felt like a united
front the parents.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yes, because I also think that Somemma's just like, does
anybody care about everything that I've been doing, all the
work that I've been putting in, and the money and
da da da da da, what about me? Because she's
looking forward to retiring at some point.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Simone will be sixty her next birthday.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, and financially, it's kind of like, oh my god, this.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Is ain't none of us rich relatively, you know what
I'm saying. Everybody, you know, we were with one economic downturn, right,
So I feel Simon, and I think a lot of
black women feel that way. Yeah, we all, all of
us did to worry about like like to me. And
then that's another thing why she's so fucking mad. She

(34:41):
got everything well.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
But you know, the house and all that don't matter
if she feels like he's not president enough, but he
ain't present, so.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
He can pay for your cherry blossom tree.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
She said she bought the house with her own money.
This house.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Come on, Angela and Angela, come on back, Come on back, baby.
This job can be over tomorrow. We don't never know
the next.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Season that we're literally just here a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
We don't know what I'm saying. Yeah, we make good
money on the show. However, it's the sustenance of her
husband will continue to have a job. He husband gonna
continue to have it.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I think you will also be mad because you'll be like,
I'm a doctor. My husband's a doctor.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah and true, you know, and everybody's different. Like whatever
works for you works for you. A toy, you want
to stay home, let us stay home. I could stay home.
I choose not to.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
How could I have all.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
These brains and everything that God has given me blessed
me with and stay home, but toy, and then was
it blessed with them things? So she could stay come
on back. That's how that hasn't been selling real estate.
But at this house upgraded to this house, Toya. The
problem with that is we know the truth. And Anela
put it out there. Her girl put it out there,
So I'm just leave it alone. But I'm saying, if you,

(35:58):
if you keep these hoes right, you're always telling me
I don't have no friends. Damn skippy, damn skippy. You
know what I'm saying. You don't have that many for
that's how a boss moves, Bitch. I do not meet
people in the grocery store and be fearing them. I
don't you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Do Doctor Heavenly be at that grocery store? Like? Can
you even go out and do stuff like that?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
I do it, yes, yes, yes, yes. I don't dress
up and go out like you know what I'm saying.
But if I dress down, no, Doctor Heavenly. But some
of the people don't have a clue who Doctor Hemley is.
Let's be real, like like when I'm on the campaign trail, probably.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Half the people, which is a nice amount. That's when
that comes to politics recognition. If half the people know you,
that's huge.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
I think that people are running for office, I'll be
having to look them up. So they said, mom, Donnie
is mayor of New York City. And I remember I
hosted an event when they were with seven seven of
the mayor o people who people who were running and
it was super early on and that was my first
time ever hearing know, Mo'm Donnie. And he came late

(37:01):
because he took the train. He was like, sorry, I'm late.
My train was delayed. And actually from that I could
tell that like people were gonna like him. I didn't
think he was gonna. I wasn't sure if he was
gonna because you gotta think Cuomo was running Eric Adams,
people that have really big, you know, name recognition. The
Controller was running, you know, Brad Lander, it was like

(37:23):
the former Controller was running. There was a lot of
people in the race that had more name recognition. But
you know what really made him stand out is that
young people voted and social media and I think that
was really like the breakthrough for him. And then also
just being really progressive about things and that affordable.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
But that's that's the big thing. Now, it's a democratic wave.
They want to see million dollars trying to keep him
out office and it didn't work. And that's what I
tell people every day that your vote does count because
the people got it definitely does.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
And listen if people didn't try to convince you it
didn't matter. That's how you know how much it matters.
So people try to it don't matter. What's gonna happen
is gonna happen, You don't need to vote.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Blah blah blah blah blah. Those are the same people.
That's like good.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
But you know what, I've noticed that people in my district,
anybody that's sixty five or older, they vote because they
know they definitely vote what happened and what they had
to go through the vote. I think the younger people
are coming around, and I'm doing town hall and discussions
and going to the schools to talk to them. Y'all
gotta vote.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
What do you think are the main concerns of the
younger generation? When you're going out.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
And talking in town halls and at schools, they said
that they don't know, They don't believe that their vote counts,
they don't know the topics, they're not informed. You is
surprised that people that don't know the difference between state
rep and US House of Representatives. I'm not why I
educated people. A lot of people do not know. They
don't pay attention, and they feel like it's gonna happen
no matter what. So I try to stay out of

(38:49):
politics and I don't try to understand it. But once
I get in office, I'm sitting down and I'm gonna
dumby it down because please, everybody need to know, because
I'm learning this stuff, just like I learn more and
less six months on politics. And you got everything.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
You know, that's been your history when it comes to
voting and to being involved in politics, but prior.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
To society to know that was public knowledge. But I
have voted every time and democratic every time. You know
what I'm saying. So your voting history is but I vote.
I've actually given, you know, done fundraisers for people that
were running. Of course I was big on Stacey Abrams
and of course Kamala. You know, we came out from Barrock.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
I was disappointed that Stacey as I'm not running for
governor again because I really but I can understand the
toll that it takes when the crazy things that were
happening to her and the awful things that people say.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
You know, running for office is tough because people need
reality TV because they need thing about it. When you
don't think they're gonna roll the tapes. Yeah, you should
people that's voted for me, They know what. But I
love my people.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I've sacrificed.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
I've been serving my people for years, and I understand
this is a position of servant. You're a servant, not
up there to do what you think.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Can you still be on married to medicine?

Speaker 2 (40:05):
People keep asking that, and he never been done before.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
It's never been done before.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
They've had people run for office, but by the time
the election is already over before the airs, so it's
never been done before. Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Right now, I saw your mayor Andre Dickens.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yes, yes, Tracy Alonzo, I saw that they stepped out together,
right because you live in Atlanta kind.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Of technically still, but y'all see the head. What I
like about Atlanta is that you can run into anybody anywhere.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, it is, you know what.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
That was something that I didn't want to interrupt you
when you when you had asked, he that can she
still go outside?

Speaker 1 (40:41):
And things like that.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
In Atlanta, you are liable to see anybody. You are
liable to see anybody anywhere. You might see see Candy
at South of Camp I say you gonna.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
See you go see to sign that magic City.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yes, you listen you.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Know, it's funny all these people out. I seen Nani
when I was out at the mall.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
And just mandomly shoving. I just saw Barlow at the
Hawks game, a couple of Yeah, that's t I and Tiny.
When I went to go eat years ago, I saw
Vivica Fox and Target on King Free years ago. I mean,
I think that's you go out to eat that you
never know who's going. You never know who is not
a big deal.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
People used to see it, and even at their own establishments.
You know, there's a lot of celebrities in Atlanta who
own establishments. I just was working at B twelve when
I lived in Atlanta, and Cuaver was in there almost
every night. I saw him when I came exactly he
was there when I was there, was there, he pulled
up and there was some ball who was there, Trey Young?

Speaker 2 (41:40):
I think, yep, oh yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
There that night and had a game in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah, you liable anybody anywhere. Hey, how you doing you.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Twelve?

Speaker 3 (41:51):
What do you think about that small businesses in Atlanta
because obviously that's the fabric of the city, But what
are some things that you think are necessary? Because I'm
a small business owner in New York, so I know
how difficult it is.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
To It is absolutely very difficult, and I know first
hand the red tape of people go through and getting
the federal funding. Our people are not getting the federal dollars.
They're not getting the federal dollars. However, God to have
it there. That's what I That's what I'm there for.
Because you're a federal listen, contracts. Hello, you've done a

(42:23):
great job with your businesses, and that's a different. That's different.
That's a different, it's a different, that's staff. And I
don't think it should be just the top people getting
those federal contact. I think that it shouldn't be not
a blanket. It should be individualized where you apply and
you understand what you're doing and be able to get
federal dollars.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
I think that's the hard part too, for people to
paperwork and even being able to apply and knowing what's
under Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Can do classes for whatever, but the federal dollars. You know,
y'all know me, y'all know, y'all know I'm gonna I'm
gonna make sure my people are taking care of That's
what I do. I'm here for my people. I'm here
for all people.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Don't get me wrong, Yeah, but my people. But let's
talk about percentage wise who's in your district, and that's
people who have over loved.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
You know.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Another major thing that's happening is DEI.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
A lot of these initiatives have gone away and that's
affected us tremendously.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
But I think people don't understand e either way. They
do not. They are not.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
The person that benefited the most is.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Who white women?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
That white woman right and in It's almost it was
supposed to be a balance because we never got the
opportunities right, But you think we not five ten times better?
Do you think that doctor Heabli can walk in Congress
and not be all of the things, educated, well spoken,
doing all the things? You know what I'm saying. You can't,
But they'll look let them Margie Tellegreen in and they
ain't even questioning You don't have experience. They have them,

(43:40):
Brother Tuckers don't have experience. Why you're coming at me
like that. I am experienced. I'm actually uniquely qualified because
I understand both sides of the coin. I've run business.
I've had wanted every county of the district.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
I know what it is.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
I had a real estate license. Seriously, I could keep going,
but all they don't even freaking matter. I always say
that I did not go to law school. I didn't
nothing go to law school. Right, I could have, but
I didn't. I went to dental school. I'm a doctor
of dental surgery. But most important, I went to Sunday School.
I need to know it was good and right and wrong.
She said, God speak for the week.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I love this so inspiring.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
I think people are going to be I do also
think that people have to feel energized to want to
go out and vote. Absolutely and absolutely just hearing you
speak now, I can see people being motivated to when
I get involved and get on that campaign.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Absolutely, it's exciting.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
When when you told me you were running too, I
was excited about it and I talked about it.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah, because I do think it's the point.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I want to see more people get involved in a
lot of people complain about what's not getting done, but.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
They don't do anything to make a difference. But you
know what, honestly, then I cut you off. In my district.
Now that I'm running the African American women, they're saying, Heavenly,
what can I do to help, you know what I'm saying.
They don't want to run, but they're saying I want
to be involved. So like when we're doing canvassing out there,
we knock on doors and we spend time talking to people,
and the people realize I'm serious, and then I understand

(45:08):
what's going on. Now I'm knowledgeable on the fact that
you're like, Heavenly, I'll canvas my own neighborhood. What is
this four hundred house? I got you here, I got
you here, I got you here, and it's just like
a factor, you know, it's just multiplied builds up. They
realizing that there's just not no TV stunt. This is
something that I'm absolutely but you gotta understand it's a
double edged swords in some parts. But way more people

(45:29):
are for me than against me, you know what I'm saying.
Think about Mary in the medicine we got nine women
ain't but one really you could say two because she
mad about a been number. You know what I'm saying.
But at the end of the day, you do not
down nobody career, you know what I'm saying at all,
And I consider this one of my careers.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Now, some people also would say on the show that
you also shouldn't talk about nobody else's husband or marriage.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
They talk about mine. Did you not hear some own
I don't know if they played it or not. Someone
will say, yeah, they're not lie on my husband and
I'm cheated so many times legitimate children, and they sit
around the thing. They'll say, will you hear anything about
hiving their husband? Yeah, you'll heard because Mariah said it.
So yeah we heard. But we heard about George too.
We just ain't talked about it. We heard about George too,
we just ain't talked about saying. So you can't believe

(46:12):
nothing you hear in half of what you see, because
if you get on damn social media, saw somebody fight
a fucking tiger and win.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Somebody's ass.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Was on top of my husband. I said, damn what,
damn damn daddy? Where was I just stuff together? So
you see anything about the heavily out Durham streets, look
three times if.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
The cars are going back background, Jordy, what was your question?

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Oh, I was just gonna say, I like a lot
of people not partaking in politics. It's a lack of understanding.
Some tequila put this damn.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
She's like, I'm not gonna partake in this.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
I don't partake in politics because they don't understand it.
And there's like a lack of education and awareness of
how even our taxes are politics. Simple things like our
doctor's appointments. They don't compute that too, And a lot
of people don't feel like they're affected by certain things.
And my whole thing is with this health care thing.
People don't have health care. My husband worked in the er.

(47:24):
You're gonna flood the r and you think that your
races are not gonna go up. You're going to be
in a fight whether you choose to engage or not.
You might as well engage, right you and think about this,
And this is the more light, slighter side of me, heavenly,
because Heavenly so so so bold, so outspoken. You think
I ain't questioned myself and doubt it myself and and
and rethought myself twice three times, second guests and third

(47:47):
guests myself. Yeah, but that's when I get in the
word and I say, Lord, do what you want to me,
and then something will happen, and then I'll be like God,
this is for me because I see it like the
the people that have come in my life because I'm running.
It's like, if you build it, they will come, yes,
And I'm like, god, how the hell did I get this?

(48:08):
How did I get this far? I knew nothing about.
All I knew was Clarissa, who was my pr That's
all I knew. And I say, Okay, I'm going to policies.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
And do it. But sometimes that's what we need.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Somebody who's smart, somebody who's been, like you said, on
both sides of the things, but somebody who don't know
all the ins and outs, because it can end up
being very corrupt. And I'm sure, yeah, I mean we've
seen it time and time again. Absolutely, you know, and
sometimes what you need is that fresh perspective. But also
somebody who is I think there's just different levels of
knowledge that somebody has and while you may not be

(48:40):
like you know, that's something you can learn, like the
ins and outs of the politics. But knowing people and
knowing what people need and being part of that community
and the experience and caring is one of the most
important sympathy people.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Humanity is the first thing, but not on that understanding
your base. Understanding your base, that's how tryon you understood
is we didn't know everything he was gonna do, Like, yeah,
I don't even talk bad about him because y'all voted
for me. He told y'all, say, y'all, I mean, you
know what I'm saying, you exactly what are you from foundation?

(49:17):
You know what he's gonna do? Right, And it happens.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
So and now she's what it is on her book tour,
like told.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
You absolutely my next book what we called unpolished. Y'all
came to me and said, Heavenly's not pol said, my
book is called unpolised because I can be unpolished and still.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Let me show you.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
But I prefer Matt Overshiny any day. So I love
absolutely well, doctor Heavenly. I know you are running around
doing so many you.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
So much, Angela. We've been going through it for a
long time. I've been coming down to.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yes, I'm like, I need to see doctor Heavenly Moore.
I always say that, but you know, and I like
this side of things, like this was not something I
saw that was about to happen, But now that it
is happening, I see it.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Yeah, you know, and I understand it. I get it,
and I feel like this is great for you.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
So this was definitely a different lip service because we
usually all in your personal business talk about sex and relationships. Okay,
we can talk about that, but next but we did
when you said, I just want to do it every husband,
every night we ride.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
With that, y'all. I don't know how y'all live, y'all life,
that's the other way my man could go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Okay, that's.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Let's say thank you so much. Where are you going?
George heavily for Georgia dot com, Like, subscribe, donate, make
sure you pray for me, make sure you makes you
get involved. You see my stuff with tweeted, reposted all
of the things because we need a change. And when
I win. When I win, I'm going to continue to

(50:57):
campaign and flip some so we can get some one
every vote.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Come.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
We need that.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Georgia. Stand up all right when you need me. When
I'm in Atlanta, you know, let me know you know
how we doing. Okay, you too, lip service

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