LS Episode 542: From Contract Prison to Creative Freedom (feat. Maliibu Miitch)

She’s stepping into a new chapter — on her own terms.

In this episode, Bronx rapper Maliibu Miitch sits down to talk growth, lessons learned, and what it really takes to move from feeling stuck to feeling empowered. She opens up about navigating the highs and lows of the industry, protecting her peace, and why this season of her life is all about ownership — creatively, personally, and professionally.

From relationships and loyalty to leveling up in business and trusting her instincts, she reflects on the experiences that shaped her and the mindset shift that changed everything. There’s laughter, honesty, a little nostalgia, and a lot of clarity about where she’s headed next.

This conversation isn’t about looking back — it’s about moving forward with purpose.

New era. New energy. Same authenticity.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's Eppen Slift Service. I'm Angela Yee, I'm GJ.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Maguire, I'm Jeordie George, I'm Malim.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Feel like it's colding here. Everybody got a coat on.
It's like two degrees in New York. No literally, If
you all are watching this later on in life, in
this summer, just know that it was like the coldt time.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yes, that we've experienced an article here, Al, welcome back.
It's been a minute.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I know it's been years now.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Last time I saw you in person, though, you were
like I got some news coming. Yes, yes, let's talk
about it because I know that you were going through
it with your label.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Previously, well the production company, the production company.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Okay, so talk to us because I just want to know,
I think business wise, you know, I know it's been
hard for you and I can't even imagine what that's like,
not being able to creatively do what you want to do.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (00:52):
Yeah, I was locked in a contract for eight years
and I finally got released.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I've been out of it for four months now.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Whoa, Okay, so we celebrated freedom, yes, freedom, yeah, and
you know, just thinking about like your journey because I
think first rough Riders was the first crew Swiss Beats
Rough Riders.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Then it was Deaf.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Jam, Yes, Island Dove Jam, Island Deaf Jam, then Atlantic.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Yes, well I was an empire and between Yeah, I
was somewhere in between.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
That was the empire for a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Okay, but then yeah, Island Dove Jam, then Atlantic and
then now Monarch.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
All right, always popping though, yes, helone.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Always always keep a label, Always keep a labels.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
People listening, what does that mean? Like for eight years
being locked in a production deal? What does that mean
business wise for you? As far as putting out music.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
So I couldn't release nothing. They wouldn't let me release anything.
If even if I try to put something out on
YouTube for free, they were taking it down SoundCloud, they
were taking it down. So yeah, it got really really
crazy and just like kind of like all over the
place and stuff. So it was like I couldn't get
bookings or nothing because they were hitting up whoever booked me.
They were hitting them up and being like, oh no,
she can't do this, and blocking and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
So it was just a mess.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I can't understand why anybody would want to block somebody
from being successful, you know, I just don't understand that
because it's kind of like, let an artist be creative.
If we don't get along, let's figure out a way
to get out of a situation so that you don't
want anybody to stay. It's like a relationship. You don't
want to stay in something where the parties aren't happy.
How can we figure out a way to divorce.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Yeah, but even with relationships like that, people will still
do it. People still want to have that control over
you because they feel like, well, if you're not doing
it with me, don't do it with nobody else. Like So,
I feel like it was a thing like that, and
then I was very cool with the people that were
in the production company. So once I started realizing what
was in my contract and I started saying things about it,
I think that's where it kind of like went left

(02:54):
and they probably looked at it us, Oh, she's not appreciative.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
And it's not that I'm just getting smarter now, you know.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I've heard people that labels executives say, you know a
lot of times those deals maybe because they're taking a
risk also, but then when it pays off, it's time
to go back and reevaluate what's in a contract just
out of good faith of being like, Okay, you know
this is happening.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
We're not happy. Let's try to make sure the parties
are happy.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
And I think it was a thing like cause when
I first got with them, I got signed to Atlantic.
Within like four or five months they were paying for
I was doing my own social media marketing. I started
my own little social media team, and I was doing
all of it myself. So I literally got myself popping
funding off of their money, and like three four months
in boom, I was signed to Atlantic. So I think
when they saw that, it was like, oh, no, we know,

(03:41):
we know she got something here, we know what she's doing,
but we still want to be in control of it
and be over there, be with her every single day
and doing all of that. And I think once I
started to realize, like again, what was in the contract,
it was just kind of like this isn't right.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I write all my.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Stuff right like you, and I feel like, yes, they
put up that's half the battle, like putting up the money,
like you know, but to have a talent and somebody.
I did everything creative, directed my own music videos. I
found my own team around me to have around me
was doing my own social media marketing. I feel like
that's in theself. It's kind of crazy because artists don't
even do that, you know. And then I write my

(04:16):
music so it's like I find my own beats, like,
so it was like really nothing hands on. They had
to be there helping me with it and holding my hands,
so it was kind of like and.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I feel like they looked at her.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
I was like, oh, wait, this girl know what she's
doing now, we need not letting her go nowhere, right.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
So it's hard because sometimes I feel like in this
we signed contracts and we are so mad about a
contract that we're in and that's hard.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Because it's like, what are you supposed to do? Do you
write it out? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
And still keep doing whatever and knowing that at some
point it's going to be over and I get out
of it or and I it has to be hard
because we're all of the traction that you had then
to realize that you couldn't do certain things and people
aren't knowing why sometimes exactly.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
And I was pissed off too, and then I was
going through it still and I didn't want to them
or like make it worse for myself, so I wasn't
saying anything, so online everybody was like, Oh, she's inconsistent,
she's not putting up. Oh what happened to her? She
fell off? And it's like then I fallow off ill, Like,
don't ever put me in that same sentence with falling off.
It's just that I was locked in a contract and
could not do nothing, and then I didn't want to

(05:18):
talk about it again for them to get more backlash
of them doing like whatever they could have done.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Since yeah, yeah, what was in it that was so bad?

Speaker 5 (05:28):
Though, Like somebody told me that it's not a bad
It wasn't a bad contract. It's just that I should
have been more on my p's and q's, which is correct.
So of course they would put you in a contract
if you're not knowing of the stipulation and what's what.
So like they did good business for them, it just
wasn't good business for me because again I'm writing all

(05:49):
my stuff, I'm doing all the work, and they're just
funding it. So it was my fault because when I
was signed to Rough Riders as well, I should have
known from that situation like to have my business in order.
And then again That's why I'm a heavy advocate for
when you sign these deals, make sure that you could
ask the label to pay for your attorney. I never know.
I never knew that. So while I was signing those deals,

(06:10):
I probably should have had that attorney. Yeah, attorney, which
if I'm coming from the hood in the Bronx, I'm like, attorney. No,
I'm gonna read over it, like mind you like so yeah, just.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's a learning experience.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I know that now.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
I would never do it again because now I like
really really understand before even with Rough Riders, when I
signed that deal, I didn't really understand it until like
this time around.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
How did you get out of that one time? Okay?
Time you had to wait for that to do.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
I had to wait I think three years for the
Rough Riders. And it was fun because I was a
lot younger. I was like twenty, like maybe twenty one
or something like.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
That, and you're still pretty young.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Thank you be thirty five. I'm excited about that. Yeah,
so excited.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
And I do want to say I feel like, okay,
so you had this song called Letter to My Ex Yes,
and I remember you my man and my may and
my may. I know, so was that like, because I
don't know anything about what happened personally too.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
No, that was my best friend, were best friend since
we were sixteen. It was like in the same gang together.
So I feel like it was just always like it
was fine, Like you know, he went through a little
time period where he got on Instagram and his little
ones and twos, but I didn't. Luckily, these blogs don't
like to post my bad stuff, so I applaud them
for that, Thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
But he didn't.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, and I feel like it's only because he had
to go back to where we came from, like the Bronx.
He had to go back and tell people why it
didn't work out, you know, and then especially when it
didn't work out being because of him, So not cheating
or anything like that, it was just other things. I
just think that we outgrew each other. Okay, so it
was more so like that.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
But no, that's still to homie, that's good.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, we like a relationship with you could break up
and maybe go through a little turn while but still.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Be No, my exes love me and I hate that
because it's like, no, I get out of here, get outain.
They could spend the blog and I'll be like, we relax. Yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Have you ever spent the block?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yes, no judgment. I'm a serious she'd be spinning.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
She's part of the Spinners Reverse.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
You know, it's interesting because last week's episode was the
Brad and Judy and the beginning of their relationship was
definitely tumultuous. But they did spend the block and come
back together, and then we see you never know years
later Nellie and a Shanty.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
It was twenty years later they get married and crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
How did he feel about letter to my ex?

Speaker 5 (08:47):
It's funny because I thought he was going to be all,
like all crazy acting, but he was like, no, this
song is fire.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
It's nice to have a song about you.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. But he but I don't know.
I think it's because of what like happened between me
and him. That's what it was.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
And he like, he'll say to this day, like you're
the first girl to hold it down. We went to
jail together, the world type of ship could have snitched
on him and everything. But I was like, no, what
did you go to jail for? It was Ganga Salt.
We jumped somebody together.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I can't even believe this, malabum, you can't believe it.
Yeah yeah, but so do be having that rapid voice
and it sounds like you might jump somebody.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, I'm a lover.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
How long did you go to jail for?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Which which time?

Speaker 5 (09:44):
No, we was, Look, we had we had, we had
our attorneys. Yeah, we had our attorneys, so they was good.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
But no, we was.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
We were fighting the case and they offered us four
years each and then it got reduced down to two
years and let me just threw it out, okay, which
was insane.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
It is good. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
And they had all the evidence too, I got the
videos and everything. I'm like, oh, look at us gold.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
But yeah, now, so what during that time period when
you couldn't really release music or do shews anything, what
did you do to just mentally be good but also
financially m.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Mmm?

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Luckily, like I was landing a lot of modeling stuff,
so it was like I did campaign stylis in the wing.
I did a lot of modeling stuff. And I don't
know how they were finding me, but girl, they were
finding me. So that was literally the only thing because
I couldn't book shows. I wasn't really making nothing off
my my my music because they were recouping everything the
production company.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
So it was literally my modeling gigs. Literally that was
keeping me afloat.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
And then I did a couple of little acting stuff
with Easter Ray and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
So that was cute. I mean that's fire.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like we need the Bronx
story of you, Like that's a show right there in itself.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
That'd be cute, ghetto. You need a little darky shore
like documentary about like I.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Said, like a series, like a show based.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
On Yeah, oh my god, I will be judged so bad,
you think, Yeah, cause I want to put the truth
in there.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Happen like that, do how it happened, guys.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
But you know what happened then is where you are now?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, it's a testimony, right, Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:19):
What did you think you were going to do if
it wasn't music when you were younger, a young Malibu Mitch.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
It's funny because I went through different phases of things
that I wanted to be. But it's like once I
started rapping and I saw like how everybody was giving
me attention for it, I was like, no, I'm dead.
I was going to do this and I don't care
how I'm ann figure out how to do it. I'm
gonna do it. And I just like, literally, I always
thought I was going to be a rapper. So it's funny.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's really funny, like, and you've always paid all mys
to some of the other female rappers that came before
you too. But you know, sometimes that gets dicey too,
like you could be doing a remix of a song
and then sometimes people be like, oh, why she you know,
used myself.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I don't know how that went, but it felt like
you know, little Kim Foxy artists like that they did.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Yeah, no Foxy like because at first I thought that too,
But I was like, no, I just wanted to come
and get pay a homage because I know how a
lot of people complain about like nobody paying homage these days,
like the younger artists and stuff. So I was like,
let me just nip all of that in the butt.
Let me just remix their songs and then try to
do my best on it, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
So I think it was I think it was.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
More so see well, yeah, it was received well, and
then it wasn't like I was going up there wrapping
like things.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
So it was like so I was like, you know,
like it was very thought out.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
So I think even when you did that, that sounded good.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
For some reason, I also what kind of music was
in your household growing up, because I feel like you'd
be knowing like the old joints.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
No, we were all over the place, especially with my
oldest sister and my oldest sister, she went through all
the music based so whatever she learned outside she brought
to us.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
And then my father he listened to a lot of
R and B growing up, like a lot of R
and B. It wasn't really.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Sou more so a rap. I think it was like
fifty sons. That was like the first rap I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Yeah, I know later on in life and everything too. Yeah,
and then I kind of like deep dived into it
and then just started being like a little super rapper and.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Being like a student.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yes, now you have the latest song that you have
out right now is featuring Richter Kids.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yes, shout out to Richie.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
And I saw you and Tori in the video. Yeah
happened time. I was like, Okay, so there's.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
No drip because you know, sometimes it's funny.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
She's everybody makes it like ten times worse than what
it is, like, you know, like this is like no,
I don't know, it's people just gotta stop doing what
they do. And then especially if you know somebody's with somebody,
just stop doing things like that.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
You know, I want to say, because I saw the video,
I was like, Okay, this is dope and respectful because
that shows.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
No.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
I love Tory. I love her now and me and Richie.
That's been my literally my best friend for like five
the past five years. So like, I love Tory, she's
she's a sweetheart. Okay, yeah, but that song, yeah, I know,
you know it's funny because he sent me the song, right,
He's like, yo, I got a song for you.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I'm like, okay.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
When I listened to it, I was like yes because
it was a ratchet ass like city like yeah. So
when I heard it, I was like yes because I
would never did.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
A song like that. So I was very hype, very hype.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
I think it's good to experiment, like all of us
feel like, you know, it's not like that song is
more like a club fun getting ready to go out,
like with your girls. Yes type of song, No exactly, Yeah,
but that was a little different for you, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
It was.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
It was it reminded me of like give us some
money when that song. But young Berg had did that hook,
So I would have never did a song like that
either if it wasn't for young Berg writing the hook.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
You know, it feels like you and him make it
also have a good like kind of a chemistry when
it comes to music.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
So how did that relationship start through?

Speaker 5 (14:48):
I believe it was cam a show came, a show
had posted me, and she went to Atlantic and told
everybody out Atlantic about me, and then he.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Was working there.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
It was one of them. Yeah, I think it was
like something like that.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah, so he was and then he heard it, and
then he literally took all the songs that I rem excited,
Got to Get You Home and the Crush on You,
took those songs and threw like ty dollar sign on
one of them, Jeremiah on one of them. I think
there was a Chris Brown one somewhere or whatever. But yeah,
and then that's how he brought it to Atlantic, and
so I basically had a deal without even knowing that
I was having about to have a yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, yeah, And then we worked together very well.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
I'm not gonna he's like a musical genius, like like
you know, so yeah, we worked together very very well.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
And you got Jeremiah in the video for the song
to which is Benjamin Cream.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
That's not an easy thing to do, what everybody telling me.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
That is one of the We love him, but he
don't be outside his bubble child show up.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
He was throughout it. Okay, he's so cool, he's mad funny.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
So the video like that was probably the most fun
I've ever had shot in the music video.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
In fact, we used to work in med the City
and we did a Jeremi video that we shot at
Medicity official Deaf Jam Jeremiah video for a song called Raindrops.
Guess who was in the video not jeremiherem there.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
No, he was never there. He was never in the video.
He never was there.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
A Deaf Jam executive came through and they wanted my
stage crew too because it was rain Drops. So that's
like a real sexy song, and they wanted us to
do the video and they were like, he's not gonna come,
but it's okay, just do what y'all do. And they
really bored in the whole production company. And it was
like when the club was shut down and we did
this video.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
And then had a place I would have do it.
He would have showed up to it with Magic City.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
He was not there. We are.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
He is not in his rain Drops video and it
is the official video and.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
So that is so insane.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
I literally I been hearing that a lot, and I
just been like, and I'd be like, why are you
can say his own video shoot?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
And now you got the evidence right there rain Drops video? Yo.
Oh wow?

Speaker 3 (16:46):
All right, So this is me now, okay X situation.
So are you single?

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Now?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yes? I am.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
How is that for you? Because you're like a girlfriend
type of girl. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
And it's funny because I'm a homebody too, so I
don't know where I'm supposed to find guys.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Because I'm my dad.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
They might be a little bit more. How do you
about dating apps?

Speaker 5 (17:11):
I don't know, rio because what if somebody be like,
oh look, Malibu's on this.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Oh my god, so scared listen.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
It feels like an endorsement opportunity.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
I think I think I'd be so scared, like to
meet new people and stuff, like you know, once upon
a time, I was a Cereal black spinner, like you know,
so I just I don't know. I like somebody that
already knows me, so I don't have to do all
the you know, and then I'm not really like like
I might look like a baddy and stuff like that,
but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I like to play video games and stuff like that.

Speaker 7 (17:43):
So it's just like you would you like your friend
hook you up with somebody match, Like, what's the last
time you've been on a date?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
What's the last time, like a first date? Not to
spend a black date? When was that?

Speaker 5 (17:59):
Jayalen, It was like, don't look at them, kind of
like the static coming in and I can't.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I can't. There's a lot of static right now.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Okay, okay, because it's been to the Corral in the Bronx.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
You know, it's so funny. I want to go to
that place. It looks so much fun, you know, so
much fun. It looks so much fun around in the Bronx.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Listen they catering and I heard really.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
And it'd be like a little party in there. They
have like they're so sweet exactly.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Like Golden Corral, is it given waffle House?

Speaker 4 (18:33):
It feels like it's giving maybe a little sun I
got drinks and everything.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't get anything liing. I'm saying club and a
little TikTok videos and stuff like that. That's so cute.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Like I'm listening while I'm talking to you, I'm thinking
of all these potential like.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Opportunities than.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yes, ma'am, because Riot is like an invite only so
you can, yeah, Jordan could have to be on Rayah
and there's like a lot of celebrities and stuff on there,
like you get betted, like they gotta like accept you,
gotta be like what's the word referred refer and then
they got to prove you, got to improve you and
that whole thing.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
But I also feel like you could get like a
check from tender or mashed.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Type I don't know anymore because I feel like my
type before was just like because I was from the
Bronx and that was what I was used to.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
So now that I'm like grown, I.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Don't know yet, but I know I like a sweet guy.
I know That's what I'm like, really really intwo.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
But you didn't used to be into that, no.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Like but no, not no more. But you know I like, yeah,
be rough with the niggas or whatever.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
I love that. I like a guy who is holding
down I gotta worry about. Then people be like, why
is he like that? He'd be and then to you
he's like.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, yeah, I love yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
All right, So I got who's sweet? Do looks madder?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
No? You like a medium? I love a medium. I
love yeah, illow medium, rare. I love that.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Because you know, I don't care if you're cute to me,
you're cute to me, I don't care. I don't be
caring about none of that. As long as he smell
good and you. I love a guy that could dress
like you just know how to dress and just smell good.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I'm fine with that.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
What if a guy says to you, okay, do you
like women too and him?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I'm not in soul of that.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Okay, So you wouldn't do that? No, no, no, not even
for his birthday.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Not even for even now.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
What if you make more than him, does that matter?

Speaker 4 (20:45):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I don't care about that.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Okay. That's the bronx ladies and gentlemen ladies.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
Because especially nowadays, the women are making more than them absolutely,
Like you know, so I just feel like if he
cares about that, that's not somebody I should be with probably,
And if he feels offriended by that, that's not somebody
I should be around.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Now, how do you feel about like dating a guy
but he comes with you, say to shows and appearances.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'm not doing that no more?

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Okay, because yeah that's the last my last extra Like
it was like I felt like I didn't I want
to experience this go around my myself, okay, you know,
because I felt like I had not that he was
over me or nothing like that, but I realized how
like like the energy could be shifted for everybody else
that's around because I have like a guy there, and

(21:30):
then you're not you're not gonna talk to me the
way you probably would or ask me certain things, and
then it's like that whole thing.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, like if your man was there, we'd be like.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Sounds like yeah yeah yeah yeah. So I think I'm
not gonna do that ever again, probably not ever again,
Yeah no, not ever again. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
I agree with that though, because I feel like when
my man is, when people be scared to talk to.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Me, yeah no, yeah they do, and then I don't
think I'm gonna do the whole social media relationship thing
ever again.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Either.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
If you see us out inside on the streets, then
that's fine, But as far as posting down and do it,
I don't want to do that.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Some people say that that ruins relationships, Like early on
when it's fragile.

Speaker 7 (22:10):
I have a whole mood board of like non descript
ways to take pictures with my future man. And I mean,
like you can't see the hands, like hoodie up like
that type.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's the only post you'll ever get from me.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah you see.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't even do that because bitches
would be like, I know that bad funny, I know
who that is. Like, so no, I don't no, no,
I'm just not going to do it at all.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
And let him post you your finger like that. They're
going to see that tattoo.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Exact and they.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Have tattoo, they.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Can it's a bombshell bombsholls of attractive woman. And that
was when I was younger. It was like a little
fireball and a weird thing.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
It was girls, I'm gonna get a tatoo. Since I
was like seventeen or eighteen, do.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
You know how many you have?

Speaker 5 (22:49):
No?

Speaker 2 (22:49):
After after you get enough, stop you after a while. Yeah,
it's just like, are you done?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Are you going to get more?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I want to touch up a few things.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Okay, I want more them.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Like right now, would you.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Get a guy's name tattooed on you a girl?

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Of course? Of course? Of course I'm never going to
stop getting on that. You know why, because it's not permanent.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
No, this was a guy's name right here.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, you can get it up.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Yeah, I would definitely never know. Yeah, do you have
any guy's names tattooed on.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
The reception here?

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Guys? Hello?

Speaker 7 (23:31):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Are you talking about? Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Because I want to like dating a guy and he
got to look at somebody else's tattoo.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
I was in my ex for sixty years, so yes,
we had each other's Okay, are you going to keep it?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
H No, I'm gonna get it probably taken off.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
There's so many things that you can do now.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
You can get it to remove, you can up.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
No, it's so small, and then it's that's funny though.
It is so funny because my nephew, he really really
liked my ex a lot, so he nicknamed himself Mars
so technically.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Your nephew name, So I'm not mad at it.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah, that's fair. Somebody asked you, what's that that's my nephew.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yeah, And the way it's written, a lot of people
don't can't read script no more so people are slow people.
So it's just like, really, nobody acts what that says.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
They don't tease script school. It's crazy when you think
about that.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
All right, So we talked about looks. We talked about
what you could potentially be looking for. Now the sis
matter to you.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Oh my god, be like a.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Little okay, not too big, not too small, it's just right.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
It's funny because I don't like massively big because it's
like out.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I don't know if anyone does know, but it's like
you know what, you.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Know what you were taught like eight inches and just like, no,
our service is not.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Even three years. Jesus.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
You can't do a trick on that.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
No, you can't do nothing. It's a lady embarrassing thing.
Is too small. Yes, I agreed, I've seen one before.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
That you can't bounce on that because.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Oh my god, no, literally and go back down and bed.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
That hurts us when when they come out and now
you're looking at a springtime release, yes, in April, okay
and April. So the album is called Sail a Good
Sailagoons the Moon.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Oh my god, I can't wait to see the visual. Yes, okay,
we got How did you come up with that?

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Just in the Bronx, I was just like moon and
I don't know, it's just the goon.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I'm like, look and I just I love that.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
You know, being from the Bronx is so much of
who you are. Because where do you live now? Do
you still live in New York?

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yes? Okay, okay. I love the way she answers with
her eyes and a smile.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
She'd be like staticky.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
But so what about the other Bronx Bronx rappers, women
and things like that?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Like can we see some collapse?

Speaker 5 (26:26):
Yes, I hope so yeah, But right now I'm just
working on getting something out because I have I never
released like an actual project, so I'm just focusing.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
It's that crazy thing these years, literally.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Like you've had practice been not a proper album.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
I've had like singles drop and I had like songs drop,
but no no EP.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
No, well the EP was free.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
It was when I remixed all those songs but I
don't even count that because it was like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (26:52):
I feel like that's becoming more common though.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Yeah, but let me make money from you throw the
mix like iTunes down and stuff like that too. But no,
not that one that wasn't nowhere.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, So do you have how much of the album
is done yet?

Speaker 2 (27:07):
It's complete? It's already all you know.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
Actually, I have like like three albums worth the music
that I could just yeah yeah if I really m
So you've.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Been working throughout this whole or.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Absolutely? Of course?

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Are you the type of person that goes back and
feels like when you make a song, go back and
you be like, now I want to change it because
I did this two years ago.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
No, I said what I said, whatever's on that song is?
They said, yeah, I loved it for you? Yeah yeah
yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Because then you get like you could get all in
your head about things and you could be like I
gotta change it, and I gotta change it, then I
gotta change it.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I don't do that. So whatever I said there is
what I said there.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
And now we also know you were on the Nicki
Minaj mimixed. That was a classic moment to go down.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
But you guys are still cool you reference to recently.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
That's funny because everybody was writing in my comments too
about that. But that song is four years old, the
one with me all my things like the ones that.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I absolutely love. Yeah, but yeah, but that's my girl.
I love her all.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Right, your girlfeel like, because there's a lot going on
right now, there's a lot of people. Yeah, but have
you spoken to her about being like are you trying
to you know, because people love the fact that she
shouted you out? Yes, So is that something that we
could see like a collabor.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
It's funny because we have met up a couple of
months ago in the studio and stuff, and then we
talked about doing music together too, so like maybe a remix.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, a lot something something maybe, you know.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
I think regardless of what's been going on musically, that's
a legendary person.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Like people could disagree on politics and things like that,
but you.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Know, what she contributed to the game. Nobody could take
that away from her. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Do you feel like in music people be picking sides
a lot as far as like if you get along
with this person, now, don't get along with this person now.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I'm like, how does that work for you?

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Because I feel like you have relationships with different people,
but maybe some people don't get along with each other.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, how do you navigate that?

Speaker 5 (28:59):
It can be like kind of weird a little bit
because like sometimes it'd be real beef for people. And
that's the same thing, like even in the streets, like
you can't go like I'm from a certain block, so
there's a lot of blocks that I can't go to
or be cool with nobody. So it's kind of like,
I don't know, you gotta just if you really vibe
with that person, you really fuck with that person, I
feel like, you know, like yeah, be gang gang about them.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Like NICKI put money in.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
My pockets when at a time where I was stuck
in a contract and couldn't make no money, so she
constantly kept bringing up my name over the years, so like,
you know, so nobody could forget about me. And again
she was one of the people that was helping me
make money. So I don't I never have I will
never probably have anything bad, well not probably, but I
will never have anything bad to say about Niki.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Like ever, you know, I agree with the loyalty aspect
of things, Like I think about people who have been
really instrumental in my career from the beginning and regardless
to anything.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
There's certain people that I'll never no matter where.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, even if I don't agree with something, I'm not
gonna say nothing bad about you.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Not comment on it.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
But I do because some people in this business. I
see people dog people that have done.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
It's real bad. It's real bad. So no, I'll be blind.
I'm blind. I'm seeing it.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
So yeah, all right, So now that you're out of
this deal and free to do what you might do.
So this is on monarchy, yes, yes, yes, So talk
to me about this situation.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Well it was, it came through with j Y. But
first I want to I do want to think Rich
the kid, because I was stuck in the situation with
these guys and he they were trying to get me
to sign.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Well, they were trying to get a buy out of
a million.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
They told two labels a million for me, and then
it went from a million to half a million, and
when it went from two hundred and fifty thousand to
like it was ridiculous numbers.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
So once Rich because he was going to.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
Sign me and it didn't work out only because like
it was a long story, but it was between them, like,
and I felt like they disrespected him. So I didn't
want my friend to be disrespected by these people. So
I was going to figure out myself. But he he
got them the contract down to fifty thousand.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, yes for next kid for real, for real.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
So he he got the contract down to fifty thousand,
which made it okay for Monarch to crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
They know literally literally how he did it. I have
no idea, but he did it well.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
So when you found out that you had gotten out
of that situation, where were you and what did you
do to celebrate?

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Right?

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Uh, it's funny because I'm not like a big celebrator.
So my friends is like, yo, we gotta tonight we die.
But it was like no, I was I was too busy,
Like no, al right, so now what's what's next?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
What's next?

Speaker 5 (31:56):
So j Y was the one that brought me to
Monarch and and no, he's.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Real, real solid, real real solid. So even him, he's like,
are you happy? Are you happy?

Speaker 5 (32:05):
I was like, I'm not happy until it hits. I'm
not happy until I have music out. I'll be happy
when because I've been through this so many times that
what I really want is my project to be out.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, that's it, that's how I care. I got three
that I want to put out and.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Yeah, like and I'm just like it needs to be
out and then I'll get happy later.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Like how did you decide what to use them?

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Because you have a ton of material that you've been
waiting to figure out what to do with, Like who's
part of the group to help you figure out?

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Nobody? Really, I like to do on my own. Yeah,
don't play yeah no, no, no, no, hands on with everything.
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Yeah yeah, because too many, you know, too many like
opinions that have fucked up your questions and stuff like that. Yeah,
and just too much, like you know, everybody's inputs, like,
oh it's nice, it's fine, but no, I knew the
Richard kiss on that needed to be out because it's
fire like, it's so good, it's so good, but then
all the other songs on it, it's like me venting
and then it's a little cutesy stuff on there too.

(32:59):
But I just wanted to give people. I didn't want
nobody to be like Malo was not really rapping on this.
Oh it's just like little bops and that's it. I
wanted them to like kind of like get the whole.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Picture, the full range of what you could do.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, I want to say, because when I seen you last,
you seem so happy to be like you knew what
you was about to get out of your We was
court sized.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, we was quite sized, because you know how we do. Yes,
And she was like, and I got to tell you.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
You know, I know it's been a minute. She was like,
but I got some news about my situation because you.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
Always supported me, and I like to really always walk
with them and tell people that supported me. You have
supported me from like the beginning, so I've always appreciated
you know.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
I've always liked your voice, your music, your vibes and everything.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Our sailagoon yes.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yes, and Philippines okay, yes, you know.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
And we're from New York, yes right, although you know
Brooklyn the Bronx, I don't know if we really like.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
We like Krusty Cousins, Brooklyn.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
I know, Oh my god, that was like finally like
my sixth time there, Angie.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Get you in the you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
We more, Yes, we moving on up all I know
is massy and that's because the jay zz.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I got in the Barklads in the Barclays exactly.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
So when you think about like rolling this out, like
you said in April, the albums, the full projects coming out,
and you said there's some songs where you're going to
be venting.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yes, all right, so and then there's going to be
a full range of things.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
We heard a couple of party songs, the Moneys get
Money songs yet Dick songs, yeah, and then venting. So
when you talk about venting, like what are the types
of things that have been going on with you?

Speaker 5 (34:40):
Yeah, like venting about literally the contract okay, like how
they just had me all the way.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
That's traumatizing.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
It was traumatizing. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
So it's and even when I go in too like
meet with people, I'd be like I don't want to
talk to nobody. I don't want to like, and then
my manager got like kind of like, no, what you
got to and I'm like, yeah, no, you can relate everything.
My assistant Jayla go talk to them like because it's
it's very traumatizing. And then it's like I don't want
to get cool with somebody and they might fuck me
over and then now I gotta calm myself down because

(35:08):
I am from the Bronx, and I'll be trying not to, like,
you know, like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
It's hard because what we look at as far as
how we conduct ourselves like in the street is so
different than the music business because they don't have the
same types of moraros in.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Yes, but I feel like it's kind of like the
same because the same thing that they be doing in
the industry, it really bet on some street shit. So
it's like, why can't I act like how we'll act
out in the street If y'are doing this to me?

Speaker 2 (35:33):
And I know that we want to be gangsters, let's
be gangsters, you know, like so, but yeah, you're right,
I gotta I'm true. Yeah, I'm managing it a little better.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Do you feel like people have continued to be supportive
of you during this time?

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yes, Okay, I'm so happy.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Yeah, Like a lot of people just even when they
see me out and I like, I really don't go
to events, but when I do, everybody says the same
allible what's going on? And I'll be like, oh, I
I'm not going to contract and they'd be like, oh,
because I don't talk about it, like I don't get
on the internet and crash out because I'd be like,
I don't want the next that to jeopardize, like the
next person, like you know, like the next person, Oh,
she's gonna crash out and stuff. They don't go her

(36:10):
way because you have to explain it. And I wasn't
able to explain it because I was going through it.
So I didn't want to be like, oh, I'm like
in a contract and people be like, oh, she bad
mouthed in them, and people do a lot for you,
and I didn't want to do that whole thing.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
But if I see you, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (36:27):
Was there ever a time where because we're the same
age and I feel like sometimes I feel the outside
noise will make me feel like.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I'm old, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (36:37):
And so when you were locked into that time, did
you ever feel stuck in that?

Speaker 6 (36:42):
Like?

Speaker 5 (36:42):
I didn't feel stuck because I'm like, all right, I
already look mad young, So I was like, Okay, it's
gonna you know, I'm gonna get a little thicker. Got
a little thicker, so that's it some time. So but no, no,
I'll be looking in the mirror i'd be like, I'm
still look young. I'm still very youthful. So no, no,
not all.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, because I know a lot of people they'll try
to say that.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
I remember somebody told me like, oh, you should stop
telling people your age. I'm like, oh why, because I'm
out a share of it.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
I look God for my age.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
You know, I started doing radio when I was twenty eight,
and people made me feel like that was old. Really yeah,
is that crazy because now that I look back, because
I felt old when I was twenty eight. You know
when you think about like the like younger people, how
we think stuff is so old when we're younger, Like
I remember being twenty eight, like, oh my god, I'm
just starting I'm so old. Also because in radio, a

(37:28):
lot of people did it for so long, Like there's
people who literally been on the radio since they were
like eighteen nineteen years old, and I felt like, damn,
I'm just now, you know, getting started wearing my But
I do.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Want to say that, it's like sometimes you do.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
I was doing other steff before that, like I was
doing marketing, I had other jobs in the industry, and
I felt like it was taking some steps backwards because
my salary was so low when I first started. I
had never did radio before, and I felt like, damn,
I'm twenty eight, I'm washed, Like.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
I never I don't know, I just never felt like that,
and then I always I think it's because I always
wanted to. I couldn't wait to be grown. I couldn't
wait to grow up and do what I wanted. And
then every time I always seen like a grown up swiman,
it was always a badass, grown as Swiman, be like
I can't.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Wait till I get like, you know, like the bad
the bad bitch.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
Ever, like I don't know, could wait till I be
grown because I always saw like beautiful women like you know,
and you would never know the age and if you did,
even though they're grown.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Like I always say that we got to get better
as we get older, though, like that we.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Get better, we gotta make it.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
I feel like I get better and better.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
But when I'm eighty, yeah, i'ma have a.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Little young thing on my arm.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Share Yeah, yeah, I feel like you're gonna be married, like.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Because that's that about me? Because you have.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Relationship girls, you don't like going outside. You want to
be in the house playing video game.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
But where am I gonna find him. He's gonna have
to climb on my fire escape or something.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
When we get to this situation, there we go, what's
a good first date for you?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Like the best first day you've been on? All Right?

Speaker 5 (39:11):
So I have went on this date and this guy
took me to four different places and in one day.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
So he we went to go do the arcade. That
was my fun because I ended up beating him on ball.
I love that.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Nice to win.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
Yes, Then we went out to eat. Then we went
to I guess massages. That was really nice and I
gave a champagne and everything too. And it was like
I love to swim too, so it was like they
have pools. They had heated pools, they had cool pools.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
I love a person from the Bronx who knows how
to swim because I'm from Brooklyn and I don't.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Oh wow, that's that Brooklyn ship.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
But then and then after that, we had went out
to the club, and I don't go out to the club,
but I thought that was so cute because I was
like time club. It was the first time I know,
but it was like he eased me into it because
we had three days prior, like the same day.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
So I was like, all right, let's go to the club.
That's a lot. It was so and it was well
thought out too, So I really, I really really liked
that a lot.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
That's nice, like take you to play some video, food,
get on assign.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, it's not because you know what it was.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
It's like, it's not like he listened. He listened too well,
like to everything I like, and I like that.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
What was it like going to the club on a date,
like because I know, people knew who you were.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
Yeah, it was like it was a little weird at first,
but then I will you know, you take a drink,
you take a shot, and you're like.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Oh whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, I might have had to come my girls, like
come meet us at the correction.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah no, no, it was it was fun.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Well it was him and all his friends, like yeah
at that point.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, yeah, the homieschool to the club on the date.

Speaker 7 (40:42):
I don't like going to the club with men unless
start paying for everything. But if you're just there and
it's like you're kind of sucking my vibe up. Yeah,
I like to be at the club with my girls.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
When I first moved to Atlanta, this guy I met.
He invited me out, you know, to the club. It
was Geezy Geze was having a black party for his
album release, and this was my first time going to
a club with a guy, and I was just like
kind of weird. But he took me to the mall.
I'm your whole office. He's like, it's a black perty.
You got somewhere.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I was like, nope, so I don't know anything. Took
me to that.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
So he took me to the walk a little black
fist and we went to the club and we like
inter section and pop up bottles and all of that,
and I was just like looking around. And that's at
this point is what I learned that in Atlanta, that's
just what they do, Like they take their bitch at
the club like on some you know. So it became
a thing for me. But that being my first time,
I was just like, it's weird that this guy. I

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think I might even call one of my homegirls back
home like this nigga just asked me to go to
the club.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Like, what's going on here?

Speaker 4 (41:42):
When you were dating? The first time I met you
was in the club on a date live yep. Yeah,
but by that time we were already like not really
like together together, but we were already like, you know,
around like this was like a first date.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Okay, okay, yeah, first thing, I.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Don't think anybody's ever taking me to the club on
a first day.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
First.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I didn't even think I've ever been to a club
one on one with the guy. I feel like it's
always been like a group a group situation, like you said,
like his friends are all going to the club.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
And this was just I mean we ended up, of course,
being with people in the section and everything we got there,
but it was me and him going to the club together.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
I do remember I had one of my friends was
going on a date, and the guy wanted to take
me out like he had a friend, and so she
was like, will you please come on this like blind
double day and it was awful, and then they wanted
to go to the club after. And then I got
to work, so I was already like doing you know,
I was already in the in the music business or whatever,
and so it was before I did radio, but I

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was in the music business. So we go to the
club and they're like waiting online to get in, and
then they couldn't get in, and then of course I
got in and so we left and left them in
the club.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
But it was a bad blind day. I don't even
remember who that guy was or it was a time
you've never been on a blind day?

Speaker 5 (43:00):
No, not not my homegirls. Oh no, they better not
send me out with nobody. Oh no, she didn't know
what it is I would take. I would do a
blind date with my homeboys. I feel like they know better,
they know better, they know way better.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
So yeah, I'm not would hook you up with you? Should?

Speaker 5 (43:17):
They be trying and I'd be like, no, guys, no, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Feel like we should do it.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Take a chance girl, one time, one time?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
You never know?

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Ye, No, I wonder who would I what type of
guy would I hook her up?

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Have you ever dated like a nerd, like a nerdy
type of guy?

Speaker 2 (43:38):
I did, but I didn't like that.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Okay, hmm, yeah, she needs a little edge.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
We love a nerd with edge, like somebody nerdy like
you know, but they got a little bit of that's.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
More and that geeks out for what they geek out for.
Because I think I'm like that. I'm not like a nerd,
but like I like things that I'm into and I'll geek.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Out over it okay.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
I like I like the I like to feel safe.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Other cities, Like what do you think what city has
the best guys? If you have to say, I like
guys from.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
M probably maybe like California, like La California. They're really
smart and the gangster they're like really really smart over there.
And then I like how they are, like they're very
pro black like a lot of yeah, a lot of
guys in New York they're not. They don't really care
about nothing, like you know.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
All right, you feel like they're not as in touch
with their culture.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
And history and just like they don't really care about
like a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
And I don't like that. And they're not very.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
No, they just don't care about certain things like that
and stuff. But versus l A, they care about things
like that because it's I guess it's still kind of
going on over there for them and stuff like that too.
And I care about their neighborhood different from over here.
Like guys in New York they'll care about the neighborhood
and they'll throw like a black party. I think that's that,
like you know, like, oh, I'm gonna get everybody lit,
and it's like, no, that's contributed, right, it's contributed to

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the bullshit. So versus over there in California. No, they're
very like, I don't know, mindful.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I want to say, you know, my block Association, they're
excited to have a black party on the block because
when it is in Brooklyn in a long time, so
they've been having these meetings and now they have like
a fun going so we could actually have a black party.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
It's hilarious. Yeah, but you write black parties in New
York though.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
That don't get me wrong.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
Partyuse you're a block fire. I feel like it's gonna
be a good time. You're gonna be on your lip.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Service, be going outside. I have to go over there,
like I go over there all the time. It feels like,
you know, it feels like home.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Sometimes you could be so comfortable where you're from where
somebody else might come and be like, oh, what's it right?

Speaker 1 (45:52):
But we mad like everybody's mad cool And.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
I could just beat myself over there.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
It's no like expectations or anything like, you know, I
just be myself and I love that now.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
I know that being an artist, we can't just you know,
a lot of times for artists, music is not the
only avenue. Sometimes that's what makes you the least amount
of money is the music that you put out. What
are some other things that you want to do if
you could put it out in the atmosphere right now,
like I'm gonna put out this project and I'm gonna
also do this, and I'm gonna do this, and Malibum
is doing this.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
I want to do more acting, like I really want
to do more acting. I really want to do more modeling.
I've done a lot of stuff for the modeling, but
I want to do more, Like one day I want
to be like walking down Victoria's secret runway but then
also rapping a song at the same time.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
They would love that.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
I wanted.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
That's so bad.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
So yeah, hopefully, well it will if it will, yes,
it just want yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
And I feel like it don't even have to be Victor.
It could be like a lot of brands.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
I yeah, because you know what, I was one of
the first rap girlies and savage fancy thank you Rianna
every ri.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Rihanna pays well. I would love to do another deal.

Speaker 7 (46:59):
When it is the should we next next week?

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Are you going already? No?

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Not this time around.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
I'm away because I just want to get the music
out there and then I'll do all of that later.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
I could see that.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Have you done that with tel Far Yes, yeah, I
feel like I saw that Okay, yes, yes, it seemed
like like he would be like I like her.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yes, yes, we've had a few times. So he's so cool. Yeah,
so cool. Love a black owned business.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
And so do we.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
All right, So we were talking about the songs on
the album that are going to be more introspective, but
then there's fun party songs. Can you give us any
like other little insight on production collapsed anything, so we
could get some little spoilers.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
Me and my best friend we fought in one of
my music videos. I love that for real, thought, no
snammering each other in a.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Pool crazy, that are fun? Yeah, so much fun. Knows
so much fun.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
And I was like, oh, it's like you're such a
But then still Agoon is perfect for you.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yes, that's exactly, and I feel.

Speaker 8 (48:07):
Like yeah, yeah, I feel like yeah, So do you
feel like you know what type of space are you
in right now?

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Just being having gone through everything you went through, but
now knowing that you have this project coming out in April,
having a plan also having done your acting, and I
think maybe you wouldn't have been as into that if
you didn't have to, So maybe that's the good side
of it that you found other alternatives.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
I've always wanted to do it, but I think if
my music and everything was going, I don't think I
would have land been able to do those things right.
So I'm happy that my music was slowed down because
I got to experience all of that stuff. And I
already wanted to do it because before I started wrapping,
I was modeling, so that was like I always wanted

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to do it right. But it's kind of I feel
like the wrapping kick down the door for all of
that for those eyes to be on me.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
So yeah, I just think last time we saw you,
things were so different.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
You know who was on that episode. I think Karen.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Sibyl was here, Yeah, right, it was Karen Sibil and
Michael Arsenal and you. It was like a random group
of us, yes, you know, having aough, fun conversation. But
life has life so much for you since then. So
if everybody's listening, like you should go back and look
at that one and then look at where we are
now with my girl Malibu, Mitch, and you gotta come

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back for the album.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
I will know, yes, absolutely, yes, I'll turn up and
we take shots guy.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yeah, okay, yeah, and then we can legitimately celebrate because
I know you don't like to celebrate like that, but
I would love for us to do.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
We have to celebrate you.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Yeah, what's your drink of twice? So we can have
that ready. I like a little doing, okay.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
If you're gonna have to step it up and give
you the forty two girls, Okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
You know because when the album comes out, that's real
for real celebrations.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
So we're going to do all of it and doing big.
Are you going to go on tour?

Speaker 5 (50:06):
Yes I am yes, okay, I'm with Mac Agency now.
So I love that period because they fire, they fire
to be getting them tours down to you.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Was ready to get out of there day I got way.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Oh my god, I'm so happy for you.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Thank you so much for it's a long time coming,
because when I see it, it's been a minute. And
then I saw you got out of it. But then
I was like, okay, we got to have to sit down,
so I'm glad we did.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
And then it was like it was a few times.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
I was supposed to be fake out of it, but
now I'm y'are fake because people.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Will be like, oh, I'm buying you out, and I'm
meet with them, I'm talking to them. And it was
like for everything just kept falling through, falling through, falling through,
and then they finally had Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
Oh it's funny because rich the kids got that number
down so low.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
So yeah, I think that was a lot.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
That's wild.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Yeah, but they have to feel like at least this
is doable, because a million dollars is crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah yeah, but you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Just a story from so many people.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
I remember cash Out had a contract that she couldn't
get out of and Drake actually was helping.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Her to get out of her contract. Wow.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah, she's a monarch now too.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Okay, her kids are so cute, Like I can't take
it when I see her post her kids.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Clarity exactly, like.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
She could not I mean that sunate, but then having
her many me exactly.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Yeah, she could never hate her baby daddy because they
have beautiful children together, beautifulness, you know. But anyway, thank
you so much for coming through though and again nineteen
forty two, Next time, you come.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Through, okay, yeah, big old bottle, big old bottle.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Yes, yes, and you know, bring your best friend through
your We'll make it like.

Speaker 5 (51:44):
We come we getting canceled, yeah, the whole you're making
right crazy, all right, it's lip service with my selagoon.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah, like no

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Mhm