LS Episode 544: Tell Me Now… or Never (feat. Dess Dior)

Angela Yee, Gigi Maguire, and Jordy Jor dive into real conversations about dating, honesty, and what people don’t say upfront with Dess Dior. From hidden relationships and surprise kids to the importance of privacy in love, this episode gets honest about modern dating dynamics.

Dess Dior opens up about stepping into a more confident, expressive version of herself—through music, pole dancing, and embracing vulnerability. Along the way, the conversation unfolds into wild personal stories about deception in relationships, lessons learned from past experiences, and why telling the truth early could change everything.

This episode blends humor, real talk, and hard truths—exactly what Lip Service does best.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's type of slift service.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Angela Yee, I'm Gg Maguire, I'm Jeordie Geor, and
I'm desdy Or.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
We had a little congratulatory toast. Take notes to the
EPs out how you feeling.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I feel amazing.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm very happy with what I released, So yeah, I
feel good. Yet Listen, we are loving it. I feel
like the girl these are loving it too.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Absolutely, they're getting warm out. We need that right on time.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yes, and your video posts are also hitting two. Listening
that pole one girl, it got a little hot.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Let's get into this poll because that's my jam, right.
I actually when I retired from Agen City, I opened
up a studio in Atlanta where I was one of
the first pole dance studios in Atlanta where I was
teaching it, and I taught way more women who weren't
in the industry, like regular everyday women, than I did
actual dancers. So I want to ask you what inspired

(01:02):
you to not only take classes and learn, but to
actually share with the world that that's what you were doing.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Honestly, if it's always been something I fantasized about, but
like never I was always scared. But when I started
recording this certain type of music, like the song I
did it too, spinning. It just inspired my creativity and
my artistry to want to actually go take a class,
And then I was scared to share it. I'm not
gonna lie. I was so scared because I'm more reserved.

(01:29):
But I'm realizing a part of my artistry is a
big It's like visual as well, So if I want
people to understand my music and feel it, I just
gotta channel into that too.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
So that's what made me want to do it and
share it with the world.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, because visually, people also know you for your fashion
so much. I think the whole thing just ties in together.
So it's just something for people to look at and
be able to say like, ooh, you know, give them
another feeling to the song.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Is that something that you think you would bring to
your shows at one point? For sure? The girls dancing
on the pole, absolutely, I would be so fire.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
I kind of was like, I want that to be
like the music video, but I have other professionals as
well in it. But I think it's very sexy and
artistic and I want to.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Take more classes. I mean, I'll that's my shoes off. Girl.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
If yes, do you still have the studio in la
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
I actually moved here back in twenty fourteen and I
closed it then.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
But that class for the girl, yeah, like let's you know,
something for home for a girl and actually made like
a couple other people go take dancing classes and like
pull dancing classes, because I think every girl just it's
always been something they just want to do.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
It looks to fire them and it's a good workout.
It's the best, is it? Full body?

Speaker 4 (02:49):
It also does so much for self esteem because I
would have my students tell me like I would see
you on stage and you would do all these crazy
tricks and I would think of my mind and I
could never do that. But then they would come to
my class and I would show them that, yes, you
can do that, and it just did so much with
them self seeing yeah, yeah, it's such a confidence and
Sexy was like my tax exactly and we really would
you really bring your confidence out by learning like, oh

(03:10):
my god, I can do this.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I think it does something for your confidence for sure,
like just being in there and like just feeling you
gotta feel yourself and it just helps you with the
movements of your body, like you gotta have confidence to
do something like that.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
When I dance, I called it being in my zone.
Some fact, I used to dance with my eyes closed.
Really I didn't know that. No, I didn't know that
I would be on stage. Somebody brought it to my attention.
One of my homegirls was like, why your eyes always
closed on stage? And I'm like, my eyes goos and
she was like, playing attention to your hosby clothed in
my zone that I just started calling it in my zone.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
In the studio, I was at it had a mirror
and like I would focus on myself so much I
would kind of look stiff. So I had to also
close my eyes to really like get into it and
get into the movement. There just were your dms looking
like after that post, they was like, oh, I'm like
all right, even that much, did anybody ask you to
teach them? M m m m. If anything, everybody was like,

(04:05):
oh no, I'm about to go take my class.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
This just confirmed and then class.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
The guys yeah, yeah, you know. Of course the guys
like they love seeing stuff like that. So anybody dad
was like reflected in your glasses that you know what,
because I don't I don't want that to be the
reason why niggas reached out to me. So anybody reaching
out to me for that video, like, no, okay, thanks

(04:30):
for like you know, the detectives are trying to figure
out they was like, oh we saw this guy's reflection.
Oh my goodness, is really that deep?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Like Jesus.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
But I fucked up though. I think that found because
I should have been more attentive to like what I
was posting. So I can't even be mad. But I
just really didn't think people would.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Like inspector gadget on them. Yeah, oh yeah, it's it's
not serious.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
You're not used to that yet.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
I mean, I feel like people be watching that was
no but like that was like you gotta like really
really really like my shades. Yes, yeah, and my shades
were like really tiny, so like.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
They was on it. You know.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
The people know they want to be all up in
your mix, they want to be out with my mix.
But I like keeping my relationships private, you know, it's
piece of that. I gotta keep that sacred, all right,
So that is a relationship, it's just private and sacred.
Is that something that was Is that something that you
learned from previous relationships that may have been people known
about that, You're like, Okay, this time around, I'm gonna

(05:34):
keep it on the level.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I just feel like people feel too.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Obligated to give their opinion and just like it's just
too much commentary and it just takes away from the
whole experience.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
To be honest to me, personally.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
I could feel that because when you post stuff, if
you're posting, people feel like, well you posted it, yeah,
and then it's like now people in on this person's life,
and now it's the fact. It's just like everything gets affected.
You know. I don't want people trying to go comment
on my partner page because of something they seen me

(06:10):
post or say, and I don't want the same thing
to me coming from his side. So it's just I
think it's best to just keep everything private. I say
the same thing, like, sometimes it's annoying because something could
happen and people say disrespectful stuff and they're going to
his page and why I can like get used to
stuff I don't know that he can deal with for everybody.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Yeah, yeah, because when you're not in a public eye
like that, and I'm speaking on Angelus, I don't know
who you deal with. But Angela, he's not a public
person like that, so she's very much used to being
out there and people being in the mix.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
But I feel like knowing him, he don't really he.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Don't really care for like the commentary, I don't need
him to like crash out. Yeah, he's a quiet riot,
quiet riots, so we don't need him popping off on
nobody saying even if.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
My partner didn't have a page each, I don't think
I would post a man on Instagram. Yeah, even if
I don't know, I just feel some type of way
about that. I think would have to be married for
five years, and even that would be the biked like
you'd have to have gloves on, only you couldn't even
tell nothing about him.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, just because I don't like Yeah, exposing you were
married was Kelly.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Basically you never posted that.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
You never posted a guy maybe like in college okay girl,
but that pictures be long deleted, like no one could
find college like as adult you like, No, my last relationship,
we was posting each other. It was given collab, collab, collab,
and now we're not to together anymore. So uncollabed uncola colab.

(07:46):
Because you were in such a long term relationship, and
y'all didn't really never.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Mised once in the blue moon when like shocking, you know.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
And then I remember one time I posted us court
side and yeah it went crazy bets.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
But you know, okay, never mind, I'm not gonna say nothing.
But anyway, let's talk about the tell me now, tell
me now. Listen. There's certain questions that we were talking
about this that I don't think to ask, like when
you first start dating somebody, because you're like, who is
psychotic enough to not like volunteer certain information. But sometimes

(08:22):
gods will be like, well you didn't even ask me, Like.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Oh, that's their favorite thing.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Now are those real things? Then you get the bag.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
With the shoes, well, yeah, that's a real thing. That's real.
That's a real thing.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
And the belt and all the accessories.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
The wire that's my favorite. Okay, if we were got that,
people would not speak because got.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
A limit on it so much through Zell that wire
you not get wrong.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Zero.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Sometimes that wire take a long time to hit.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Listen, if you on the weekend, it's like a quick
day or same day right.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
But right now.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Friday, thank you please.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I do feel like zell Owes you a check though,
because you mentioned them a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, they do owe me a check. A lot of
people ow me a check if we we're going.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
To bed partnership in our future, y'all hear that right,
Zell needs to be a partnership.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Now, I thought this was cute, well, going along with
the hotel me. Now, I remember I dated a guy
and he did not tell me he had a kid, right,
And so I only found out because I was at
his house and one of his boys like came over
and they got in a little argument about him not
going somewhere and he was like, I did come. He

(09:47):
was like, no, you went to go see your daughter.
I was like, you have a daughter? Like, And after
that I could never date him again because how do
you not mention child? Not only did he not mention it,
he lied because he told me he didn't have any kids. Also,
he lied.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Now. The reason he said he said that was because
I think I might have been having a conversation about
like not dating guys with kids, okay, and so he
lied and then yeah, so I think that is like,
anybody that lied on their kids is an absolute never
in life.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
I once ended a relationship because he had a baby
on the way and lied about it. But we were
in an open relationship.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Remember that open relationship I was in years ago. I
was in one, onely one. It was only one open relationship.
It was years ago. Actually it was before the long time.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Okay, Yeah, and we we were at dinner and his
friend slipped up and said something about the baby, and
he kind of just brushed it away. And then the
next morning I'm like, so, oh, the next morning I
overheard him speaking on the phone about it. I guess
he thought that I was sleep or whatever. And then
so I'm like, so tell me about this baby, and
he's like, I don't have In a way, well I might,

(11:01):
but I'm not sure if it's not. You name that
baby and his name starts with a jet. You named
that baby a j name, and you're currently converting one
in your guest rooms. I'm clearly guessing it's gonna be
a nursery, Like you know, this is your baby, right.
So that's what ended my open relationship because he lied
about having a baby, which I wasn't having no baby.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
And it was clearly it was open, so why lie? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Meanwhile, that child was born in two thousand and nine.
So here we are, okay, cross house man. These days, okay.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
They'll have every opportunity to tell the truth, and they
still would choose to lie. Like you can give them
the open space opportunity and just be very like comfortent,
and they still lie.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I don't get it. I always say that guys need to.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Really let a woman know what she's getting herself involved
in and not just throw them into a situation because
the sand because you can tell me now, because for real,
you know, I'm a very open minded, very fluid type
of person.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
You never know what she might agree to. You never
know what I might agree to exactly exactly y'all y'all
know that.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
So like for me on a personal level, like I
would want to know and know what I'm involving myself
in versus ship hit the fan and then now it's
an issue like yeah, you know, I always say, like
you can tell the truth and still have your way,
Like you can just be completely honest and still have
your way, but give somebody the opportunity to choose.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
If they want to go that way. They are not,
so I for good.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
I did tell you I'm living with my baby mim,
but there's nothing going on. Yes, that's why I need
you to tell me now short, I'm too possessive of like, no,
I'm not dealing with that. What's the craziest thing you
found out when you were dating somebody that you were like,
I can't believe he didn't tell me.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
That he had a baby on the way?

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Okay, same, that happened the theme, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
On the way. I could never give him that while
but yes, he lied, he lied, he lied, he lied,
he lied, and I found out when the world found out.
Sometimes guys also lie because they don't need for sure.
Sometimes are like praying it's not there the best way

(13:11):
to go.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
They don't be.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Wanting to mess up y'all situation.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
But it's like, you don't know what I.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Will did you don't know what you gave me the option,
if you gave me the option, But my crazy stuff
is yeah, yeah, let's just say that. Yeah. Sometimes you
like I'm never gonna not ever. And I also feel
like things can happen for a reason, Like it might
feel terrible in the moment, but later on you look

(13:36):
back at the lessons you learn, and a lot of
times there's some benefit that comes out of something that
didn't work out.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I always feel like it's a lesson and everything, like,
even if it didn't work out, you learn something from
it that you won't do moving forward. So all right,
well we have this little game. It's called tell Me Everything,
and I feel like it's quite appropriate for the time.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Me now song.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
So actually, I own a coffee shop in Brooklyn, and
this young lady brought this and I thought it was cute. Hold,
I'm gonna tell you her name. Let me not mess
this up. I think it's all a day, Yes, all
a day, all day, oh day, Oh light day, Okay,
light day, all right, So I'm gonna have you pick.
It's gonna pick a card, all right.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Oh light day. It's called tell Me Everything Dating.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Edition, So pick any card anyone, and then you're gonna
answer the question.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Read it to us.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
If a show was made about your date in life,
what would the trailer look like? The trailer would be
very mysterious and like sneaky it would it would be
a lot of suspense because it would just build on
a plot and probably wouldn't know who. I think it
would be like, hmm, maybe two men that I'm like

(14:49):
in love with and then they kind of like want
to kill each other. Oh the suspense of that, So
this is your day. This is just a show.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
This is just a show. To this just a show.
But that's what it would look like.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
It's a competition, y'all like that.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's like a vampire diary.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, I'll see.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
I never seen that, but I heard about it. But like,
I love them both and it's like, damn, like have
you like I'm trying to protect them both. Have I
ever loved to people at once?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Hmmm?

Speaker 1 (15:28):
No, I never got a chance to experience that because
I'm like an all in type of person. I'm like
delusionally all in, going off the deep end for one person.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
So no, So you.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Never really just dated, Like I never really just like
dated because I'm always giving a person too much and
then it just leaves no more room for nobody else. Okay,
I've always like wanted to But and the people that
I'll be talking to, I feel like they're also as
equally possessive as I am. Kind of just like.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Like a scorpio, it's all or nothing.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
I can't help it's all or nothing, Like I can't
divide my energy between multiple people.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
You know, Yeah, it's obsessed with me. Don't look at me.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
I'm a Capricorn can we're both capricorn, a.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Gemini, Gemini, my best friend of Gemini. Yeah, what was
your reality show dating?

Speaker 3 (16:27):
It would just be Tumbleweeds, you know what, in dust
going through the desert.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
That's my choice, though it is by choice. It would
be you picking up and moving to the desert right
with tumble Weeds, because you chose that life.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
There's a bar that you say. That's like I'm quick
of telling man to go to hell. That's mesolutely, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Just not ready to not tell him. I feel that.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, you gotta be very clear on your boundaries and
don't band or foe for you know exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Do you ever feel like maybe you were too harsh on.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Somebody sometimes but then something happens and it always showed
me I wasn't harsh enough.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
You know, I should have did more.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I should have did more, Like I should have cheated, right,
I was, Yeah, have.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
You ever cheated? Yeah? I did.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
I did cheat before. It was like when I was
in high school and I didn't like step out and
like fuck nobody else. But I think cheating is anything
any like flirtatious thing, texting somebody else, all of that cheating.
So yeah, I did that, but I can say I
was very transparent that I was like out of.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
The relationship right in a way.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
My partner just kind of didn't want to separate. So
you were like, so you let him like like we
were still to I let him like like we were
still together, but you wasn't into it.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
I wasn't really.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
There no more mentally, and I expressed that.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
So yeah, we do check out first. Yeah, yeah, actually
leave angela state all the time.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I think that's a woman thing. That's why it's easier
for us to just like end it because we've been
ended it months ago while they're like confused and shot.
But have y'all ever had somebody like that didn't want
to let y'all go, and y'all kind of just felt
so bad for like leaving them that you just stay.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
But was mentally not there.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
I don't know if I felt bad, but I definitely
whenever I cheated, it was revenge cheating, Okay, So and
then I was like, Okay, I'm gonna try to forgive
you and I too for a little and then I'm like,
you know what, I'm just gonna torture you for a
while and then I'll be done.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Oh yeah, yea though sometimes because usually but if I'm
breaking up with you, it's for a reason, and so
I can feel bad. But I'm also like, I mean,
you knew things weren't right, you knew you didn't do X,
Y and Z. I gave you an opportunity. So because
guys will try to guilt trip you. Yeah, like they'll
act like you not ride or die. Oh, this just happened.

(18:57):
This didn't mean anything to me.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Building right, my just told me her dude told her
that last night. I said, what we're trying to build intentionally?

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I thought, we're trying to build intentionally? What does that
even mean?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Right?

Speaker 4 (19:09):
It's a It's like, you know, one of those buzzwords
that he heard somebody on the podcast, I'm weak.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
He said that online. What was your dating reality?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Dating show? Looks like? Yoah, where is Bob Brocker spend
the wheel the prices?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Right? Do you know?

Speaker 4 (19:29):
That's a good question because again, I'm so just like
with the ships, you know, just go with the flow
of things.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
My life is a movie. Every day is a holiday.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
You know.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
My life's a vacation every well, not anymore because I
have full time john now, but every day is a
holiday vacation time. I just be going with the flow
of things. I just wake up and be like, what's
happening today? You are so random that I am so random.
So yeah, it would be hella fucking random.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Coming here next week like I'm engaged.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Guys, I'm like, that happened, and then coming the next week,
I'm not engaged anymore.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Sixty five days, sixty five days, and again. I was
in a relationship for about a year or so this
past year, and now I have a girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I wake up and be like, okay, let's try this today.
Right after saying you didn't think you'd have a girlfriend
U for years?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Right, for years, I was always like, you know, I
like pussy, but I don't like girls. But you know
I like her. We like each other.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Okay, Poorsia. Now I want to ask you also before
we get back into this game, about something that Jada
said online when she would say she couldn't hang out
with whole like what did she say exactly and her
whole friends? Because people were thinking that was in a category, yes,
like how she was being treated. Yes, what are your

(20:55):
thoughts about that? As like, because we all had thoughts
about it, not about you, because I know she wasn't
talking about you.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, we knew that.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
But I'm just saying, because that's your friend and she
made that statement, do you find that to be true?
Like people judge you based off of who you're around.
I feel like naturally, like people look at friend groups like, Okay,
birds of a father feather flow together. So by mixing
and mingling with people that really don't align with what
you own, you can get they can't get mixed and

(21:24):
screw Like, Okay, maybe she kind of like fun or
going that way.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Or a little bit like that, y'all don't think so.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
I feel like people do look at you and your
friend group and it's associate you together. And then there's
also the kind of like band by association thing. But
I will say that I've definitely had.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Some whole tendencies over the years. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
My whole things might have lasted longer than most. And
I'm not afraid to talk about that because I do
what I want. Yeah, I don't like my life for
other people, and I don't care about what people think
or say about me or people's opinion. Tomorrow isn't promise,
and I'm do what I want because I want to
do it.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
You know, I don't like I don't like people who
act like they're not like that, but they are they want.
I'd rather you just be like, yeah, live on, because
I can't stand people who act like I would never
do that.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I don't do this. I've never done this.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I never said there.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
There's one person that we all know that came to
mind when or yes.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Them people who try to like get around you and
kind of like pick up on your persona because right
they don't want to bowl themselves, like if you want,
and that's cool, fine, that's just don't do it with
my man. Just don't do it with my man. Everybody,
that's it. But it kind of always because you know,
sometimes it's hard to be friends with somebody and you

(22:42):
got to defend their actions because that's part of being
friends with someone, right, Like, if something goes down, I
could tell you privately it was back, but publicly I
got to have your back, and it's hard to defend
certain things sometimes. Yeah, sometimes you just don't even want
to like be in the mix of those certain things. Yeah,
Like at this age, I don't want no old friends.

(23:02):
I don't want no friend I don't want no friends.
That we don't have nothing in common and we just
don't align, Like I don't want to be in a
club till six am every night, Like I don't want
to be a nigga's faces. I'm not trying to see
where the nigga's at. Like, we don't have nothing in common,
so I think we should just casually go our separate ways.
Like I don't have nothing against you. You ain't gotta
have nothing against me. We just don't really align, and

(23:23):
I think that's normal very much.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
So all right, you want to pull a question out
from here? All right? Tell me everything she really in here?
Like is it okay?

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Oh lord?

Speaker 4 (23:38):
If you've ever been in love, do you like the
version of yourself that comes out when you're in love?
Why or why not? I'm always in love. I'm love
at first sight, love at first night.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I fall in love.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Hello, I was engaged after day three and even though
it only lasted sixty five days, like how you really
was with the shit?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I tattooed that man's name on my vagiant. She did, Oh,
I didn't know it's on your vagina. It was right here.
It's covered now.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
But yeah, my tattooed misses his name. Girl, I got
going through that, pas. She that was my fourth cover
PA fifth cover up. But anyway, I do like the
I am a lover girl.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Like I go all in.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
I'm very intensive, exactly and literally like my whole entire
life since teenager, since high school, I've always been in
some form of relationship and or situation. Like I'm never
single for long, Like single don't don't last long on
me at all.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
And I really be balls deep pun intended on the
love thing. So you want you to be single for
a little, do.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
You feel like you've like you've got the chance to
really like understand yourself for real?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yes, I was single for a while.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
I was single for maybe like probably the longest was
maybe like two two and a half years.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
It was like.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
When I when I moved from New York to Atlanta
in twenty nineteen, I had a little stint of I
was saying that probably was the longest time in my
adult life.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
But yeah, did you like that?

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Since I did, I did use that time to reflect
on past situations and make better decisions in the future.
And I learned to fall more in love with myself.
As much as that sounds very cliche, but I did
get to know who I am and have a better
picture of what it is that I really want moving forward.

(25:29):
And I'm like a master manifestor so since then, I've
really been like praying for and asking for what I
really want.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
And I have to say I've been getting it.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah right now, and yeah, if you believe it and
you got that confidence that everything in your life is
going to happen how you wanted to.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
I feel like you will. You gotta have faith.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
So I love myself yourself and I love myself.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
What about your dance?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Do I like?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, if you've been in love and you have right,
do you the version of yourself that comes.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Out when you're in love?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yes and no? Yes, because I like how like nurturing
and I can get. I like how soft I can
get and like submissive and just feminine all together. And
know because I kind of like lose sight of everything
I got going on, and I might see that fully
just invested in my.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Person, Like it's like what.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Like I'm willing to like risk it, like I just
want to be up under my man and live skins
like I have a life too, I have friends, I
have family, Like you got to pour in those areas
to and I just kind of just go ahead, deep on,
my man, are.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
You going to go on tour?

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Then, with all that being said.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
You see what I'm saying, don't owe me?

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Would have been like I didn't. I didn't almost like
called off opportunities.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Right, you can't do that and want you to do that.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
No man should want you to do that. But I
did have one that wanted me to do that, but
he was like.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I'm gonna take care of you. You don't need to
do that.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
I'm not doing that. I will never even consider doing
that no more. And if a man wants me to
do that, that's a red flag for me and I'm
probably gonna reconsider the relationship. Yeah, he should be like
like get up, get going, Yeah, and is it got.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Got to get to it? YEA nobody should be sitting on.
What about him coming with you while you're working?

Speaker 1 (27:20):
How do you feel about that? No, I don't want
him coming with me while I'm working because I I
just I don't need that, you know, I don't need that.
How did he feel about the whole video?

Speaker 2 (27:32):
He liked it.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
He actually came to one of my classes and he
was like, you look a little stiff you got but
he was like in support. You practiced on him at home.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
That's real, brong. I ain't did that.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, that was only seven classes. That was only seven classes,
so let me get a little more experienced. I'm like,
you know, fucking around with give.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Been in love? No?

Speaker 3 (28:04):
No, I've never been in love in like a safe situation.
So I feel like it brought out the worst of
me because I'm liking somebody, I'm into somebody, and I'm
giving myself to somebody that's not.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
So probably not I knew.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
That, yeah, but I feel like you where it's like
I kind of lose sight of what I'm doing because
if i'm it takes a lot to crack me open.
So if I'm going to be vulnerable, it's like I
want that to last, So then I try to do
everything to make it work, even past the time I
need to. I don't know if I would do that now.

(28:44):
I also haven't been in a relationship.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
It's so used to it so long and It's like,
when you do get to that space of being vulnerable,
you want somebody to really appreciate it. They will never
really fully appreciate it how you want them to because
they don't understand what it took for you to be
honible exactly. So it do scar you when you do that,
and people it's not reciprocated.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
One thousand person. I can't wait for my friend to
really find her person amazing.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
You know, I would love an all women teams. Can
you imagine that she would? That would be crazy, that
would be really cool. And she's single, so she's available
and she got that attitude, that demeanor quick to tell him,
I think you'll find a man if you go out
on the road, a little tour, get outside a little bit,

(29:42):
a couple of them. I'm here first, your first, second
options Jordie Jordan hair. You can pass that to her.
You pick one.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
This is cute, this little game tell me everything.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
It's so cute. Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Is there a the area of your life where you've
been holding back and what's stopping you from showing up fully?

Speaker 2 (30:06):
That's a good one. We just talked about it.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, I mean I think for me it's always vulnerability
is tough. I lost my mom, like, I lost a
lot of importance people in my life in a short
period of time, and I think that, you know, it
closes you off in a lot of ways. And even
like when breakups happen or friend breakups happen, like that
loss is triggered still in me, So I would say

(30:31):
that's been holding me back. And I think that is
something I struggle with still.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
And sometimes you feel like you don't want to waste time,
right when you lose people close to you, it makes
you feel like I don't want to waste time on
things that don't matter. Like that are people who just
are not like really exactly pouring into what I have
going on in my life, and I can pour back
into them, and it kind of makes you feel like
life is precious and it can't be short.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Time is definitely I feel like a huge thing.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
When you, you know, go through something like that, it's
like you're more aware of it, but.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
What's going on.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
I feel like friend breakups don't get spoken about enough,
and you know, we all do go through them, and
that's a whole different kind of grieving process than losing
a partner. And I just feel like people don't really
acknowledge that. You could be like, oh fuck hert but
then there comes a time where something happens and you

(31:23):
want to call it everything. Damn I can't even to
her about that.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
You know that hurts too. I am a little soft y'all.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
We glide over betrayal in like girlhood a little too easily.
Like it really is traumatizing, you know, like somebody you
trusted confided in, like lay next to and cry your
eyes on. Waking up the next day and doing something
that is like detrimental to our friendship is traumatizing.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, what's the worst friend betrail you've been through?

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Uh? Somebody literally going to talk to my ex that
I like, this person knew what I went through with
this person, Like was there like seeing everything, seeing like
just every emotion there was to that. And yeah, soon
as we stopped being she did like two things. But
as soon as we stop being cool, she would and

(32:13):
dealt with that person. This is the same person like
telling me, like you deserve better than that. I never
really had to like deal with that, but.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, that was that happened.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
What happens if you see her or have you seen
her honest I haven't seen her okay since then, But honestly,
like I feel sorry for people like that, you know,
like always happened to be in that type of survival
mode that you're willing to do anything in life, Like
you're willing to do anything to get to where it
is in your mind that you think you want to be.
You know, you're willing to just sell yourself so short

(32:48):
and like go against people that actually.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Care about you.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Right for somebody who made a different in a similar
situation that I went through with a friend that was
a very close friend, I never thought about it in
that way. You gotta be a little person through that, Yeah,
get bad for you. Yeah, And I never even had
that thought process. But you really just like like Bulb.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Said, it took a lot for me to really like
come to that conclusion. Like I went through I'm angry,
I'm sad, I'm this, I'm that. But it's like ultimately,
like I really feel sorry for you that you will
do that, And then I also feel like, what is
the guy's motivation and doing that? Is it to try
to hurt you? Because could he really like you know
what I'm saying, Like a lot of times guys will

(33:29):
do that be like I'm just buy her friend, Like
it's a revenge type of thing, try to hurt you
type of And I feel like guys don't like themselves
so like they don't put too much thought into anything,
like yeah, I'm gonna do this to get back at hurt,
but like I don't care about you know, I don't
want to have any friends that I couldn't trust around
my man on my AX.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
I don't want none of those friends.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
You know how people would be like, you know, we cool,
but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah we're not.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
But it's a live and learned type of thing. Are
you greeting friendships?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Past friendships I have?

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Yeah, I feel like I don't think I have I
have I had.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I had a best friend of twenty years.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
I had a best friend of twenty years twenty years,
Like literally we were so close from day one, Like
I'd spent a little time in jail, and she took
care of my daughter in my house during that time,
and like we were really really close like family. And
she fucked my ex while we were like together, and

(34:36):
we had broken up, and we were kind of like
trying to mend things and we were in the Bahamas.
We were in the Bahamas on like the let's make
up you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, And literally
literally the first night while we were there, we were
like vibing and we were out at the club and
she caught my phone crying like I gotta tell you.

(34:57):
And then I found out later on that the only
reason why she called me and to tell me what
she did was because her boyfriend found out and was
going to call and tell me, so she had to
tell me.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
So it wasn't even like, yeah, it was at least
I mean, dang, she called you and told you.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
It was because her Yeah, the boyfriend was gonna found
The boyfriend found messages of them two in her phone.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
It was like, why are you talking to her? Man
like that, like what's going on?

Speaker 4 (35:21):
And she confessed to him and he's like, I'm going
to tell Gigi and she literally it was like two
three in the morning she called my phone. Crime to
be that low down, yeah, desperate, So we can never
be friends again.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
How did you make up with him? Though?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
After that?

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Girl?

Speaker 1 (35:35):
You know her, I know, but I'm just saying I
feel like I don't know what y'all.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
We didn't know in that moment.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
We didn't get back there, like because the trip was
because the trip was like, let's make up trip, and
like I flip the funk out on him, So the
trip did not go well. But you know, eventually I
spun that block and reverse like Diddy and the Hippo
top videos.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Why would be so quick to forgive the guy?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
But you know what I'm saying, I know, be stupid,
have lower expectations for them, and then we do our
peers and homegirls and everything, like we hold ourselves and
our people to a higher standard.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Than we do that.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
I do feel like the betrayal was on both ends,
but I feel like it was worth coming from her
him because we expect niggas to not be shipped.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I don't know that we should have that expert I
remember I had a boyfriend who cheated on me, and
I consider getting back together with him, but then I
was like I told him, I was like, I don't
think I'll ever be okay with that, and so I
don't think it's even a good idea for us to
try to get back together because I'm never gonna like

(36:42):
trust you or be nice to you like that.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Even though it did eventually go back. It was never
the same. Yeah that was all the way over, but
yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
It was sometimes you got to go back to see
like it's never going to be the same, right, And
sometimes you got to go back to let him see
what he's never gonna I want to ask you about this. So, Tia,
I was on way up on my other show and
he was talking about women in Atlanta and so you
being out there for so long. I want to ask

(37:09):
you what your thoughts that he was saying. The problem
with women in Atlanta is that, like on the first day,
they asking you for stuff.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
Like Atlanta are very difficult to deal with because they
also their expectations are astronomical.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
You know what I.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Wouldn't I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that though. I wouldn't say.

Speaker 7 (37:26):
That what you say because your testimony, you know, I
have a testing Yeah, yeah, your testimonist. I want to say,
men you we got to get back to write that
movie was talking about us having a New York or
Atlanta culture clash.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Sometimes either you coming here, me coming out. Remember we
talking about it. We did.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
But as far as women in Atlanta, for me, when
I first went to Atlanta, I couldn't believe how progressive
the women were down there. Like it was like I
was like every girl out here, got a call, got
a got a crib.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
They doing good?

Speaker 1 (37:56):
When did you go?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
When were you there?

Speaker 5 (38:00):
This is the first time when I first started coming
on line, I'm like, oh four.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
Five okay, yeah, okay, things have changed.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
So you're telling me it's not they not as progressive.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
Not as much as they were then, not as much. Well,
and I'm just telling you from other people who have
a single men who have a similar testimony, right, that's
you of course understand. So yeah, people that their complaint
is I meet a girl to day and she already
asking me to help with her being right before.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
The first.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
In Atlanta are progressive?

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Thank you? Like pay for this?

Speaker 4 (38:35):
I got this, dude, old Georgia power.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Now what do you think when it? Because I saw
a lot of people arguing in the comments over this.
Some people were like, well, women are like that because
we have to have more expectations out of men, right,
And Jordan's looking like.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Absolutely, I just had this conversation with my cousin this weekend.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
What was the conversation about how.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
He was like he met this girl and he felt
like she was too thirsty, but he didn't want to
like get her flowers or whatever take her out on
the date because he feels like a lot of women
are asking too much. He's also in Atlanta, and I'm like,
but we're the prize. You need to do something. You've
already decided whether you're at tracked to us or not.
When we agree to go out with you, you already got

(39:19):
a prize there. We need to know what's going on
behind the.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
I'm coming, I'm stepping into your world. Show me what
it's going to be, Like, I need.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
A little previous, give me aise. Why am I wasting
my time?

Speaker 1 (39:30):
So we're not expectations and win Like now I feel
like you know first day all of that. You ain't
got to just approach the situation like oh well, can
we go to Chanelle or can we do this, this
and that? Now it gets to that, and it gets
there once you realize, okay, we got some here, like
we're getting to know each other, like we to a
good space. Now it's like, okay, we have more expectations.

(39:53):
But I feel like at the base beginning, let's see
if the vibe is cool before we get to that level,
because need you ask me for no woosy And I'm
not gonna be asking you.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
For no stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Right, We could just get to know each other, Let's
see if we organically like each other, and then let
the gifts and all the stuff come naturally.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
But I do feel like women should naturally expect flowers,
Like you should.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Want to like wind and down a woman.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
You should want to like court her, take her to
experience nice things, take her to a day, a basketball
games and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I don't think that.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Thoughtful, like make a girl want to like.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Feel like a girl.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah, while you being low, what if your man wanted
to take you to court side to a game? You know,
we can't do courtside. We can't do courtside, but like
we could, we could do stuff like that. But yeah,
so you would saying no to court side?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah no, because I'm not that's too much. That's too much.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Honestly, I would get so weird, like I would be
so like uncomfortable that it wouldn't even be about Yeah,
so how did he even bag you? I just got
to ask, how did this happened? We actually met at
a wedding.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
We met at a wedding one of my friends mom introduced.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Us, that's really cute.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Did he know who you were? Probably so yeah, but
like not really on like that level at all.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Right, he wasn't like watching the impact.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
And like, no, not like that because he's kind of
like an off the scene type of guy.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, I like that girl. When you got him, did
you immediately think this could be something? Like you know
how sometimes you have a little intuition or a little
like all I did.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
All I did was say he was cute.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Like I didn't like start even think that far.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Like I was like, oh, he's cute.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
You know you when you walking a room you peeped
the wrong let you in. I was just like, oh,
you're cute. But even when like her mom introduced us,
it still wasn't like.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
A oh, like what's up?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Nothing like that.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
But she was probably intentional, but I didn't think anything
of it.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
When was the moment that you realized like, okay, this
could really be a thing, probably like ours second or
third day Okay, yeah, probably like a second or third day.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
And what was it about him or what did he
do that made you be like?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
It's his demeanor, it's his conversation. You know, I like
a man who's very intentional and knows exactly what he
what he wants and does what he has to do
to like secure that. You know, I feel like a
lot of men got a good talk game, but when
it comes to like showing and proving, it just don't
match up. You know, a lot of people say they
want longevity, but your conversation don't even give longevity. How

(42:40):
you move don't even give longevity, you know. So it
was his demeanor and just everything this is cute and
look that you talk about it. She was like, so
I met him at a wedding by himself and you
went by yourself to the wedding or did y'all have
a date? He No, we were by ourselves, okay, because
you know sometimes we be ditch our date.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
See, I haven't even been to that many weddings.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Okay, wedding you might have.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
I guess it is the right etiqette to go to
a wedding with a date. But but you know what,
this is what I think about dates and weddings. You
cannot bring a date unless it's somebody you're very serious with,
because they're taking a plate. You know, like the people
who are putting a wedding together and I produce a
Dan would tell you had a huge wedding, and you're
not going to just bring a random plus one to

(43:27):
the wedding that I'm paying three hundred dollars a plate for.
You know, for all these people, it's got to be
they always say, if you're going to bring a plus one,
it got to be like your significant other. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
I've even seen people say that only married couples, right, yeah, okay,
and no kids.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Like long long term. Yeah, you know, I think I
would do that. What else you planning for your wedding?
I think it would be very intimate. I don't want
to just have like random people at my wedding. I
see a lot of floral design. Yes, I might want

(44:06):
to have a destination wedding, you know, so that would
make it even more intimate.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Okay, destination to you? You have an idea web destination?
What's your favorite place to go?

Speaker 2 (44:20):
I gotta keep traveling.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I haven't been enough places to really say, okay, yeah,
so so so far, though, if you had to say
this was my best like so far? I like Greece, Okay,
I like Greece and I like Dubai.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
I love. Actually just went to Terrence Jay's wedding in
Dubai November. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
It was so And honestly, I never wanted to go
to Dubai because I'm a big pot here and I'm like,
I ain't gonna be the smoke while I'm there.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
But when I tell you, I can't wait to go back.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
I had view such I had such a good time,
and I was only there for the wedding, so I
really didn't get to do much more to experience Dubai. Now,
of course we can't go now, thanks Trump. But I
can't wait until I can actually go back and really,
you know, enjoy myself there.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, the vibes I've never been nice. Yeahs darting to
was it Mikonos Micono's. Yeah, it's so hot and the
mosquitos are so I'm going.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
You're going to Miconos birthday, great place.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
You have so much fun except for the so much
I heard, it's really fun.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Make sure you bring some like mosquito. But they have
organic repellent. I didn't know that either, But them little
plugins they give us a hotel enough.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
They don't work all right now, let's talk some more
about this this EP that you have out right now?
What are your plans for music? Because I know you're
going all in and so what's the plan? Like, what
would you like to see happen? So would you sign
like a major?

Speaker 2 (45:49):
What's the deal?

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, honestly, if the situation is right, I would definitely sign.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
But the terms just got to be right.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
I like having I like maintaining control and independency and
my deals, you know, So I just want to make
sure whatever deal I did sign would be like very authentic.
I like people who genuinely mess with me. I feel
like a lot of people get signed like on the
spot and then deal with people who really not hands
on with them or really just don't care about the

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journey behind the music.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
So whoever I.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Did sign with, I just wanted to be a very organic,
authentic relationship where I can flourish and just keep growing
as an artist and being myself. Have people been coming
at you because I could see a label really wanting
to sign yea, it feels like you've got the package,
You've got the music, you've got the relationships, you've got
the name, You've got a lie in those things already.

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It kind of feels like a.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
So has that been happening?

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yes, But like I said, I like I want to
maintain my control and the business side of things just
got to be all the way right, because I've been
semi in a situation to where it was like I
didn't get all my deliverables that I was expecting because
I can do a lot myself for myself as far
as like the investing part, so I just look for

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a lot of like marketing and being pushed in areas
I can't really push myself.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
So yeah, I kind of be very cautious with that.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Is it intimidating for a man to day to knowing
that you can do so many things for yourself. I've
heard people talk about how hard that is today a
women who already has so much. Yeah, I think it
can be intimidating for men simply because women who can
do things for themselves have a different demeanor to them,
like a little more dominant, not as needy. And to

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feed a man's ego, I feel like you gotta somewhat
be a little needy, you know. They like to feel needed,
they like to feel like you just can't do things
yourself and a woman who can really do everything herself
and like run a business, have a career.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
They just don't move around like that, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
So how are you with asking for help from your man?

Speaker 2 (48:00):
I like a man that.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Just doesn't really want to have to ask, But sometimes
you do have to.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
You have to.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
I'm learning you you will have to ask because something
can't read mind.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
They can't read minds.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I wish they could, but sometimes they just really just
don't know. But my thing is why don't you know?
But I will say sometimes were so used to doing
and they're used to seeing you do stuff yourself, Like
I'm sending out these packages, I'm doing this and they're like,
all right, well you know, hit me later.

Speaker 7 (48:31):
They're not.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
They don't want to overstep.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Their brains work completely different.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
But they might think, like if you don't say anything,
they don't know how hard certain things are that you're
doing or that.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
It might be.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
But if they might think you're doing this, you want
to handle it. They don't know all the intricacies. Sometimes
you do. I think it's hon us sometimes to be like, hey,
I'm having a tough day, I have this and this
to do. Would you mind helping me in this way
because sometimes men think that we get offended, yeah, which
is a you.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Know, I've seen that happen.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
It's a little bit of my pride too, like I
don't want to ask, but I need to start opening
up because think about it. If your man asked you
for something, you feel good, like, Oh, he came to
me to ask me. That's how he feels too. Like
she trusts me enough to ask me for help, that's
because she needs it. And so, like you said, men
want to feel neat.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
And they want to come with their capes and save
the day.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
They want to say, want to really pour it. And
I'm like, oh my god, you helped me so much. Yes,
I'm so grateful.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
I actually had to call my sneaky link. You're calling
the sneaky the.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Sneaky link, because I had a really bad day on
Thursday and I was like, you know what, I could
really use a hug.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
I had a bad day. And he was like okay,
and he came over I'm sure and did yes.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
But he was really nice because I really like started
bawling crying at one point and he just brought me
in the shower and he like showered me, and it
was like really nice me, this.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Is crazy, but this is crazy because that's very romantic.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
It was very sweet. Sneaks don't shower you.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
They don't, but I fear that's all he's ever going
to be.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Bathed, you know, and he lets you boohoo cry. I
know you're going.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
To be best friends forever, but beyond that, it's giving.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
So what is that black age?

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Well, I think we have different goals. I think we
look at life completely differently. He's not American, so he
comes from a different country and they do things differently over.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
There, and I don't know. I just want more.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I want more. Okay, yeah, that's great answer. Yeah, that's valid. Yeah,
let me you can get what you can't. I'm enjoying it.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
I feel like it's teaching me a lot about asking
for what I want and like seeing how easy things
can come to a man, you know, because he does
do things automatically that I'm like, well, exactly, Like my
closet came off the thing and he just.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Put it back. I need that.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Yeah, I kind of feel like I know what you're
going to say.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Okay, here's the question I have. If you had.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Unlimited space, what kind of collection would you start? Like
vintage jewelry, you know, bags? If you had unlimited space,
what kind of collection would you start?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I think I would collect cars.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I knew you were going to say that I don't
know about cars.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
I don't either, But.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
If I literally could drive a different car every day,
I would what I would.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Want.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
I've never had multiple cars before. Well, I access to
multiple cars, but I've never owned multiple cars, so space
I would fill them up with multiple cars, like vintage cars.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
I'm a type of person that came because I don't
feel like you.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Would.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
I like cars, and I do feel like I could
drive a different car every day, But now that I
have two cars, I only drive I feel like I
felt that way because I didn't have a car that
I really really loved and I got arranged and I
just fell in love with it. So I don't even
drive my other car like I love. But if I
could start a collection of something, maybe it would be

(52:30):
Maybe I would collect like artsy jewelry.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Okay, I think Angela would collect art.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Very beautiful art collections.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
I really love our idea, yes, and I think that
it's like transforms your whole home sometimes when you go
home and you have some art pieces that you love,
and you could just go and look at it and
be like, yeah, and different things mean, Like different pieces
mean different things to you at different times. Like I
have this one piece and as a guy, he's got

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boxing gloves and there's like these different emojis on the
boxing gloves, and I remember at a certain time it
meant like something different than what it means. Like basically
I was feeling like every day I got to get
up and fight and you know, go and handle things
and like fight for yourself. But now it just feels different,
like at a different place in my life. Good that
you aret makes you feel that way, yeacause I want

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to get into art. I have this piece caused Zin
in my in my living room, and it makes me
feel very peaceful, like when I look at it, you know.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Yeah, and I've got all over your house and it's
all beautiful.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
I like the Prince one.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Oh yeah, I have this mister Brainwash piece and it's
Prince but it's made out of vinyl records and it's
But I do think that art is so nice to
like have some statement pieces in your home, you know,
and you have got good taste and good style. It
don't got to be like the most expensive. It could
be like an up and coming artist and you see

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a piece that you like. And this means something like
when you see something you like, you feel it like
you could look at it like that's cool, that's good,
and then you see something you'd be like, damn, I'm
not that I really like. If it's in your space
is important to So, yeah, it would be art for me.
What would you say to any door man, that's hard.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
I would do art too, because I studied arts and
I really like it. Ironically, I don't have any in
my house, but I do love art. I feel like
it would be animals. I really want to farm.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
I want to farm. Is that any pets?

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Not?

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Not at the moment.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
No, But I grew up with dogs. I had a
pet pig at one point, some horses.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Her name was Willow.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
I didn't want I had her. Now the bacon is baconing?
Just launch my pajama line. Yes, so that would be
in the space too. I love potatoes, don't.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
I love.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Wearing it right now?

Speaker 2 (55:14):
I know I know we're going to have She spoke
about it talking about it, So yeah, we'll have that.
We'll have that moment.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
So yes, and they're really cute and comfortable.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Now let me ask you this, since in your real
life you're so busy with everything that you do, you're
a boss, how are you in the bedroom? Are you
a take control type of person or are you more
of a you take control person. I'm a little bit
of both. I'm a little bit of both. I know
how to take control. I know how to you know,
take over and can tell about how you just touched yourself.

Speaker 6 (55:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
I don't know how to please my man, but I like
for a man and take control as well. Okay, so
I know how I want to feel, so yeah, like
when I take control, I just know what I want
to feel. So you're good at giving directions, saying do X,
Y and Z. Yeah, I'm not scared to give directions
very nicely, very nice, Yeah, very nicely.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Yeah. So I'm cool with either.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Has anybody ever been too freaky for you?

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Like that's too much? Bro?

Speaker 3 (56:24):
My brain is going up of the places one time.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
What was so freaky that you were?

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Like much?

Speaker 6 (56:29):
What it was?

Speaker 1 (56:30):
It's kind of like weird you didn't do that right?

Speaker 2 (56:35):
No, I don't want to say it. I just I don't.
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Because guys, we'll try to do something and you like, uh,
it's not here.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Yeah, it was just a little too far. Lift did
he want you to that? No?

Speaker 1 (56:49):
No, no, not like no, not like that. All right,
but it was like weird though, but it wasn't pegging.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Was it weird or was it just weird for you?
Is it something that.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
It was just weird for me?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Like why are you want to.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Use that DJ?

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Have you ever said no to anything? I said no
to Peggy? Okay, but you would have wish I would
have did it? Why you would would have did it?

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Because now I want to do it, But at the
time I wasn't ready. So when he said that he
wanted to do that, I was like.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I know, it's crazy because I can't see you saying
no to anything, not anything.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
But it was a long time ago, I manifested, not
for you me pegging.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Yeah, I feel like we could find somewhere every time.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Talking about it, every time we talk about it.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
But I would never just randomly hook up with somebody
in my dams, especially for that type of thing, Like yeah,
so yeah, that's very intimate.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Yeah, And I think because I was young.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
I was like really really young.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Like out of high school, Like yeah, that's nineteen, so
maybe it was like it was just like a little weird.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Yeah. This was always in my twenties at the time.
I my forties now, so it was a really long time.
But it wasn't as weird as pegging. No, it wasn't
as weird as pegging.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
No, not that I want to shame everybody that's extreme,
but it was still too weird for me at that time.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Like you know, like it isn't a shameful but pegging
is something that's on the more extreme right level.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Of requires like things anything you have to.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Yeah, you know, and they have.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Very pegged someone because you got to have like the equipment.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Yeah you got and that was the whole thing. It
wasn't like we could have done it in the moment,
but I want you to get get a strap on?

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Can you Like? That was just like can you strap on?

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Probably Uber package something if you could do it.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
I never seen a sex store. It's a car, but
I never looked right both, I've got vibrators. I probably
got it.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
You can definitely get sex on pub I don't know
if it's if a strap, but you could definitely find
like didos and vibrators strapped.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Jordy, you ever said no to something?

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Yes, I don't like butt stuff. I'll try it once,
but I'm not doing anything to your ass.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Okay, not to your ass.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
And you don't like nothing to your ass either, I don't,
but I've tried stuff for mo for me, Okay, I'm
not licking anybody's ass.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
I'm not fingering anybody's ass, and I'm not strapping on
to penetrate anybody's ass. I don't even think i'd have
good stroke game if I'm really gonna.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Be honest, You don't think so, You'd be like, I'd
be like, I don't, I don't know what I'm doing.
You'd be like you like it. You probably woudn't even
put it all the way in. I would be doing
too much, like I don't know. I probably I agree

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with you with it. You know I'm not into like
the butt play either. I also don't like spit. Yeah,
Like I don't want nobody to like spit in my mouth.
I know some people love that, but I'm not into.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I could do a little like a little skit not
too much like not don't.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
You know, hard not so much, but a little sexy,
a little sexy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
I don't know why I don't like that. It's just
maybe it's cringe you out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
I don't know, it's I just could never get into
that even like seeing it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
I'm porn.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I don't like it either, but you know that's just
my thing. I might be the only person.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
No, I don't love it. I've let it happen. I
don't like it. Have you spit in someone's mouth? Absolutely not?
Absolutely not? No, have you does? Yeah? Guys like that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
I've had people ask me do you think some like
is it something really that they like?

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Notice?

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Like? Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Ain't? Like you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
But has anybody ever said spit in my mouth? No?

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah, and I've done it and I'll do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
But if somebody I would, well, okay, and that's what
I was gonna say to you. Nobody's ever said, hey,
can you put your finger in my butt? Or can
you lick my butt? No?

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
But they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
They've done It's like they're asking with their body. It's
not start coking and and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Right like a little nuns, little leg going wider, like
get away from it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Yeah, that's the communication. Yeah, or if they do at
they say play with my balls and then you know what,
that's cold.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
That got a little more.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
So that do you feel like this is it for you?
Like this is this relationship? Yeah? I mean I hope.
So okay, I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Say for you can't tolerate no ship, but I hope.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
So you know, if everything just goes how it's going
right now and just stay at a high mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I feel like it's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
So it's a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
It's new.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Music is out, it's operations are high. You know. Album
on the way yeah, album okay, full length album? When
is that happening? Early April?

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yeah, so my EPP was just advertizer okay, and then
we got a full body of work yes, yes, okay, yeah,
this is not coming out for a couple of weeks.
So she notes to so okay, so she took the notes,
take notes, and now this is notes to something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
I love it. Yes, journey, Yeah, the journey.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Yeah. I was very intentional with my release this time.
So I'm excited. And will there be a tour with
the album, Yes, there will be a tour. We're thinking
like maybe fall summer, so We're gonna all my whole
first line, first headline, congratulations, and I know people are
going to pop out to guess yes, yes, yes in

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every city, have some merch requests okay, so.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
Yes, while she pulls up that and be asked this
questions because our mother, Queen Beyance, started this trend with
the tour, so we have to have this look. So
what do you think your lok would be if you
had to choose, like right now, what the look would
be for that you want the girl used to come
in for the tour.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Like the aesthetic of my tour.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Yeah, hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
I feel like I want to do something opposite of
what my norm is. So I've been doing a pixie.
I will go pink pixie. So I want to see
like pink splots of pink. And I want to be
real like cunt almost like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Not too rock star, but.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Like a tour like right away just fashion forward okay, okay, edgy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
But fashion for edge.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Yeah, with the mullets. I want the girls to come
taking risks, you know, take risk, like risk, even if
it don't work out, I think it's good that you
took the risk. Like sometimes you'd be like what you
ever have an output that you was like, what was
I thinking? Absolutely but all the time because if you
played it safe. Yeah, I didn't have some outfits I

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didn't want out in like damn, I know I missed,
but I feel like people know you for being able
to dress really well if anything, so definitely I was like, okay,
people know how you know the favorite thing to say?

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
How I give it? Did you? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Yes, okay, okay, so T shirt sayings bad bitch benefits.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Bad bitch benefit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Okay benefit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
We were hear that bad bitch benefits because I'm actually
about to drop a line. Also, thank you, Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
We already said this, but definitely send a wirefuckers l
that needs to be on a T.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Shirt as well. Whirefucking out because if.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
You know the limits.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Oh, if your ex is done, you better not wish
the well hello, you get it, I was rhy. And
then don't either don't let me touch no bills or no.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Fifty to fifty no fifty fifty yes, yeah, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Straight to the points.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Those were the lines. I was like, yes, I need
those on the shirt pronto.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Okay, I like it, I wear it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Oh and then I feel like you need a shirt
with the guy in the glasses, A guy in the glass. Yeah,
like the reflection in the glass. I feel like that
is important, like to take things and make the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Or a music video like you know when they used
to like zoom in and like they would.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Be Yeah, thank you more than just marketing.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
Me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
It's like I'm sitting with the glasses in the same
like and then it just zoom into the then.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
It turns into a fire. That's little video.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
She's got it. You got it girl. Well, thank you
so much for coming and sitting with us. We appreciate
it and playing games with us and everything. These are
the only games she'll play. Okay, no games in real life,
but we do really appreciate you and congratulations on everything.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Thanks y'all. I was really glad to be here. Y'are
so sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Conversation was so interesting and see so much fun. Next
time we're going to do it again. Yes, okay, thank
you for telling us everything. Take notes periods service service