LS Episode 547: Can’t Be Moved (feat. Jozzy)

Jozzy joins Lip Service and keeps it real from start to finish.

Fresh off her album release, she talks about stepping into her own spotlight after writing hits for others and what it feels like to finally receive real love outside of the internet.

Then the conversation takes a turn.

Jozzy opens up about choosing celibacy and why she “can’t be moved by lust” right now. She breaks down how past experiences—especially with women in the industry—made her rethink everything, from situationships to being seen as an “experiment.”

Things get spicy as the crew debates control in the bedroom, including whether telling someone to “hold it in” makes things better or worse. Jozzy shares how she approaches sex, power dynamics, and why communication matters more than anything.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up and slip service. I mean like yea, I'm G. G.
Maguire Shorty j R.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
And I'm Joby.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
I know that's right, Joy, thank you for coming through.
Congratulations on a phenomenal album.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
How are you feeling, I'm a cloud one hundred what. Yeah,
like the response and the reaction to it, I'm just happy.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Necessarily happy.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
For sure you are.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
That's good. I'm glad you deserve it.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, it feels good. I feel like appreciate it with this.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
No, because I also think that behind the scenes, people know,
like you've written so many hits for other people, but
to do that for yourself as a whole nother like
accomplishment it is.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
And you know what's so crazy, you know they I
feel like I'm like being on the internet and then
going outside you really see the like the different magnet,
like the like the reach that you really get, like
when I go when I went to the A, the
love that I got was nuts here in New York.
Know that I'll get like face to face as opposed
to you know, and you just stay on the lapto,

(01:05):
on the computer and on your phone. You see the love, but.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
You don't really feel feeling it's different, Yeah it is.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
It's beautiful different.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, it's different. So I'm loving it.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
And you are a perfect lip service guest, I prayed.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I want to back up because before we get to
you know, holding it in, I want to talk about
some other things. You're from Memphis, born and raised in Memphis.
How did you feel about Lebron's comments as a person
from Memphis.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
As a person that love Lebron, Yeah, and a person
love Lebron, you know, honestly, it's not really what he said,
it's who he was saying it too. There were so
many white folks around him, like, and they was just
laughing right with no solution. And that's why I ain't like,
I ain't like that. Like if he was if he
was talking to like Carmelo money, would have been different.

(02:02):
But the fact that he was saying on the golf
course for the whole bunch of white guys, it's just like,
damn twins. Just look, it just looked bad because if
you know anything about myth, it's like we are rich
when it comes to culture. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Like we like, we really like blues, civil rights, like
all of that starts. Still you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
And I was, yeah, I was talking about it. I
love Memphis.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
First of all, we go to Saint Judas Hospital every
year and that's a phenomenal hospital where kids get free treatment,
cancer treatment, you know, sickle cell like all of that.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Amazing to have. They provide housing for the families.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Bell Street, Bill Street, the best barbecue you can eat.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I went to B B Kings and saw some live music.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yes, the Two Chains has the rest of my ESCO
right across the street from the arena score bars. Bob
Peace then got a lap dancing there from saw that.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
There's a spot at the train tracks. It was like,
it feels like I feel like something DC, like Chocolate City.
It's like like live DJ Records. It's like record room,
but it's like in the cutting Memphis and it's such
a yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
I had.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's great memories and times I was in Memphis not
that long ago and going back in September.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
But shout out to Big Sue, like everybody.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Out there, Big sul Legend, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
The mayor. Y'all got an amazing mayor.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Meta shout out to Paul Young, Like, I do think
we need better hotels.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I've stayed at the Peabody and I've met the duck Master.
Oh my god, that's the only hotel. I only been
there once. Today's till I say that Peabody.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, see, we got the worst. We gotta do better
hotels for show. But be my mama house. You know
what I'm saying, go to the hotel.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Let's do something. Let's build a hotel album.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
So about being when I tell you, because I'm dead serious,
because they do need like a luxury. I stayed at
the Stallion last time I was there, and the Stallion
is like so actually it was pretty nice, but they're
all like loft apartments kind of that you can rent out.
And I enjoyed it and I really liked it. It
was a good location. Yeah, it was downtown and it

(04:08):
was close to everything. So every every place I had
to go, you know, I was right there.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yoh, shout out to you for actually talking positive about movies.
I'm like, damn, because I love le Bron, but that's
just like damnful.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Down the flip side, Poos, Shisty just been and some ship.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
I wouldn't know you now, Listen, this is interesting to
me because you're from Memphis, right, pous Shisty's from Memphis,
but then also thinking about him wanting to get out
of his contract.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
You got out of your contact.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I saw you talking this way and talking about how
Puff let you out the contract, and it was a
difficult conversation to have, but he knew it was kind
of the right thing to do at this time because
he was fighting for what he had to do for himself, right,
And so I want to know.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
What your thoughts are on this whole poo shisty situation.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
What you're saying if hen't let me out pull up?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, because I was like.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Please when I heard I mean, I don't come, don't violence.
That's like some five heartbeats, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
That's like that's one of my favorite movies. That's like
my heartbeat stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
And like, you know, you just never know what the
person does when they like when they hit they wits,
you know, So you know that's what that is. Like
I don't speak on street ship.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
That it ain't none.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I'm happy.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
You got out of your situation, and that was commendable,
and you know, I can't even imagine, but I know
that was a difficult thing for you to have to
do because you never also want it felt like you're
deserting somebody that's done a lot for you. But you
also have to realize, like I need to put my
life and my career my mama.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Like like I said on Joe butten, my mam will
never get in my business. She's never been a person
like asking me about what's going on. She just lets
me in my life. So when I came home, like
before all the video and all the ship like imploded,
she was like, no, you gotta get away, Like my

(06:04):
mama never gets in my stuff. So like I got
to under that. I like, even if I had reservations,
I had to honor that for my mom. So like
it was like because she never gets business, so you
knew it was real enough. No, what nah, it's real.
She don't ask me for like, yeah, so that was real.
I had to do it.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah. Well I'm glad it's.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
What. Thank you God, I'm out of there.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
I want to ask you about it.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
But not in a bad way, like because you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, due to the circumstance.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah yeah, regardless of all of that, you still have
your own life and career that you've been working on
for this.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Ain't I'm not a billionaire?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, no being there Yeah yeah yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Honestly don't know if I want all that money. I know,
I swear to God, like listen, I'm good. Like you
know what I'm saying, too much is too much? Like
I don't know what too much is what I'm saying,
Like I like my piece, okay with money, with all
that shit comes a lot of ship that I don't
think I really want to like deal with.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
That is interesting because it's a conversation if somebody is
a billionaire, what did they have to do?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
You gotta because you got to think about it, like
in order to make your money, you know, you gotta
be sometimes you gotta be cut through, you gotta be
ruthless like niggas. Some of these niggas don't have morals
to get that type of money. You'll say, you'll say
your mama for that, like seriously, Like so I don't
know if I really like if it comes to me,
it comes to me.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Like it's interesting because I also think that making the
right moves with investments, yes, can be something like you know,
we're looking at this SpaceX ipo that's about to be
the biggest ipo ever Eli Musk SpaceX And if you
would have invested in that a few years ago, it
is something that could take you to a whole other
level that you know, sometimes rolling the dice and getting

(07:53):
lucky some certain things can you know, really set you
up when you think, are you good with finances when
as investing everything for the future?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Very much? So you know what I'm saying. So one
of my catalogs so which is a blessing for me?
And like just invest in it. Like I talk to
my financial advisors almost every They pay attention to everything
that I spent and I want them to like I
want them in my life, like like they know like
I went to Magic City. They know I you know,
I can't listen.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
So you know what all this cat marketing that.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
You know what I'm saying, the promo I got to
promote this out.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
That is definitely their promotions.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh good. But yeah, I'm normally good with money.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Though I want to ask y'all all something hold it in?

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Uh uh you heard it?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (08:50):
I did for sure, right, And sometimes somebody telling you
to do that is going to make you do the opposite,
you know what I'm saying, Like, and I feel like
that's the point of it. If somebody is telling you
hold it in, don't you dare? You know?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
My submissive ass?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
So okay, so what does that do for you? If
you're in the bed, it's going amazing, It's crazy. It's
why somebody say holding you better not.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
So I want to listen because I'm so submissive. But
the fact that he's telling me what to do is
going to make me be like.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
My butter That's what I'm saying. Holding it I think
that does the opposite effect.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I mean, yeah it could. But yeah, like I think
some girls like the like the challenge of like holding
it in.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
What Jordie, what does that do for you? Because I
could do that. I don't know if I could do
that hold.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
I mean, but I'm too competitive in that way, but
that would kick in You're.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Like, Okay, I'm gonna hold But Jase, what does that
do for you?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Mm hmm? Just love, like interaction. I feel like sex
is more than just like like just in and out
out upside. But you know what I say, I feel
like it's like conversation. It's so mental. So like if
You're willing to listen to me, and I'm listening to
you to you too, Like I think that's that's what
makes sex like amazing charge person. Yeah for sure, But

(10:22):
I can like listen to you know what I'm saying.
But most of the time, like I like to like
communicate and like very.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Talkative, very like they tell me some things you said.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
You know, my mama not watching this. I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Make sure she don't see this.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
She ain't one of my cousins is, don't send this
to her. But yeah, I mean everything.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Give us an example of like you next to Jordan,
if you was gonna say something I like to be
talked to, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Would you?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
What would I? I mean, yeah, I'm just asking how
does it feel? You know what I'm saying? Are you there?
Don't help? Like hold it in, don't stop, like look
at me, tell me when you're ready, Like they can't
do that. Absolutely, she really got to just tell me
she like, you know what I'm saying. And if she
can't hold it, like I probably give it like a

(11:23):
stipulation or something. What's the stipulation, I don't know, maybe whatever,
Like you get punished.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Jesus locked in Mercy. We want to know what.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
My mom just listening to this one now, Lord Mercy. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
She's been a naughty girl.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah you know, you know, you know, spanking, spank, spank.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah that's how are you getting? Are you okay? We're
getting choked?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
It just depends like if I'm like if she like,
if she's run on my face and ship.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
She could ride your face and choke you at the
same time they do. We might really for real, past
I can't breathe.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
All right, seriously, but.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Look, being that you are jazzy, what is it like, like,
are people throwing themselves at you?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Not right now? Because I'm actually practicing celibacy, really, December?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Why is that?

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Because I was really going stupid and like I was
doing too much, doing so much, and I was really
like messing up with a lot of like a lot
of straight girls, a lot of girls in the industry
that I can't say.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Their names and I want yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
But they but they straight to society, Okay, So like
you know, I become an experiment, which is fun and
I loved it, but like you know, I want something
I won't like my son treated me. I want something different.
I want something real. I don't want to be an
experiment or experienced like it was dope and I appreciate
them times, but like ships laying now, like I'm so
like luss, like I can't be moved by us, I

(13:16):
can't be moved by like like I want it trust
me that I want to have, but like I wanted
to be with the person that I'm actually like, I
know that this is going to be somebody that I'm
gonna build.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
With, So tute me because your walls are up. It
feels like it feels like you're it's hard for you.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
To I'm on the queries.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Oh never know what that means? Yeah, ready to like.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
You know what I'm saying, but I'm ready, like to
not be detached.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Have you been in love?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I think I have. I think I have, like the
whole project, so I tried to get back. I think
it's I think I was a lover okay, because because
I was trying to fight for it.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, and you did a whole album.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I think that because I don't know, I don't have
nothing to match it up to, so I need to
like continue to keep living and trying to match it
up to the person, to another person in another person
because I don't know, because everything for me is I'm
so detached. I can detach so fast.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
That's interesting because I think for being a writer as
extraordinary as you are, detachment feels like it would be
the opposite of what you do. But what just because
I feel like we're living through the things that you're
going through, and it feels like you're so tapped into
your emotions, tapped into So that's why I'm feeling like,

(14:39):
how do you detach? You know when you're so tapped in?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Because I'm tapped in in a moment and I'm getting
the fuck like I know how to get the fuck.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
It?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
What?

Speaker 4 (14:51):
So how long are you going to be celibate for?
Is there a time limit or feeling?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I was thinking too.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Last night almost almost almost almost.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
So you don't have a time, you don't have a
time that you're like, I'm not going to give it
until what.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I'm not gonna give it into. I know that this
this is somebody that is not just a sexual thing.
I'm not just like a I'm trying to stay away
from straight girls. I'm so trying to stay away from
straight girls, trying to get off.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
So what happened last night? Then?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Right, well, it was just yeah I could have I mean, well,
so it was a girl that I messed with like
years ago, so like she was just ready to come
to the hotel and I literally had to tell her like, damn,
I don't want to keep like I was messing with
her the whole night, like flirting. But when we got
to turn go, I was like, I don't even wanna lie.
I'm really not. I'm not in that mold. You know

(15:50):
what I'm saying. She thought I was lying. She thought
I was trying to take somebody else home, and it
was funny with.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Me all night and then all of a sudden, you're.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Like, yeah, like but I was trying to lear I mean,
I'm a flirt like it's fun, but like I know,
like she's gonna cut off right here, like you might
be toxic damn, because I'm a flirt aquarious because you're
gonna flirt all night and then it comes down to
it and then you're like, no boundaries.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
But what was thewhere you got her all excited?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Femini?

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah, when it comes to down, you haven't done nothing
like no making out.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
No I did one thing, but she did it. Like,
so it was this girl and I literally I wanted
to her so bad. So I just told her to
like face time when she came home, let me talk
her through it.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
HM.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
So like.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's not really you're still clear with celebrating. Do you
watch porn?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
No? Not no more?

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Okay, but you used to for sure?

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Okay, So celibate from the porn too at the same
time everything, because that's.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Too much temptation.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
And I like being horny, Like I don't know what
that like, Like I like feeling that feeling and just
like leaving it there.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
That's like edging.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, not not even getting to the point where it's
just like but I like to like, then let you
know I'm alive, Like.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
I'm here.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
That's a human feeling, that's a human like human.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
AI can't replicate that. Yeah, I feel that I.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Get that human being. But like to your to your question,
I don't know. But I mean, man, it may happen tomorrow.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Apparently.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
So I was elevate for two years. I went out
with a year in mind, and then I was like,
all right, so maybe when I get a man, be
about it. And then I was like nobody's moving me.
It was for a similar situation where I felt like
not that I was being used, but that I was
having meaningless sets. Yeah, and it wasn't giving what I

(18:15):
wanted to get. Two years was a long time, yes,
And I also part took in other activities like what
he jeked him off, like other activities. Yeah, I mean yeah,
like everything else, Like everything else I was still doing.
Penetration was not an option.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
You got to meet you out, of course, you got
to roment.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah, but the celibacy, I feel like Dick in vaginas difference,
and it had a different level of like it's like
you're depositing your energy and me and that had a
different effect on me than anything else. Respect So that's
what I was celibate from.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Respected.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, what about making out? You haven't done that? Even that, Okay,
I've done that.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
So what do you think? How has things changed since
you've been celebrate or has it?

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, I'm not so lusty, Like I don't want to
be lusty.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It's like in detox.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, just a little bit. I just think everybody like, yo,
it's so much more to life I want, Like I'm
trying to learn how to date. Actually, okay, you know
what I'm saying, Like actually, like do cute dates like
what like let's go to my crib and like do
some fun arts and crap, like let's do think Like
I know that's just sounds corny, but like we do,

(19:34):
like we have to teach ourselves how to do that,
especially me, like when as opposed to just girls, just
like it starts in the studio and then late night,
then we fucking we go to the club like sneaking
fucking you come to my house, and once you fuck,
you just fuck, especially if it's good, you're just gonna
start fucking.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Have you been somebody's first experience? Like it's because you
said you are tired of the straight women. So has
it been a situation where for women they've never been
with another women before and have been like over.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
I don't know, they could be believe it, Nay, I
believe it because they'd be sighting the fences.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Like you could tell like this.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Before, Yeah, you could tell. You could tell. You can
definitely tell when a girl hasn't done it before. Happy, Well,
most straight girls they don't, they've never they don't they
come hard. Like what I mean is like it's like
they don't they don't be getting orgasms the way they
get orgasms, so they be so they be so like

(20:36):
a different organ they be so fucked like they just
be so like wild with it. So that's how I know,
Like they're just like, like what the fuck was that type?

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Ship's like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, it's a different type of like orgasm. It's like different,
and like, I don't know. I always start like until
like I started like hanging out with like my talking
to niggas, about talking to other girls about niggas because
you know, my sisters love talk to me about their niggas.
Then I'll be realizing, like girls only come like one
time or if not.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
None or they don't come or none, And I'm like
a lot of times.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
I don't have that problem.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
A lot of times women will only come through like this.
I never noticed.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I apologized, smart you hear.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
But yeah, a lot of women don't come through penetration.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
It's nuts.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
I'm definitely a one and dumb person on Yeah, come
through penetration once.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
I'm okay with that, though, No, you got to let
them go go. I would get with one time. I'm
happy with that.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Is that three Like experience like like back to back.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
It might be like maybe fifteen minutes later, but not
like immediately.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
And even that, I'm good with one. I'm ready, Like
I'm like that's all I mean. Yeah, I'm glad. Now
put the TV on, screaming listen FU slow jams after
you know.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Now, I want to talk about slow jams because that
song right there, So you like, no music, no TV,
nothing when you're having just hearing the noises of the
person you're with.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah like that?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
What it is?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Like? What?

Speaker 1 (22:39):
So?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
What's so funny? Is I feel like a whole nigga
one time? Like because I was playing my playlist.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
On thet cassette tape, but I.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I had my p n D on. Shorty was like,
cut that ship off. I was like what I felt like?
I was? I never heard of tell me to cut
that ship off? Before the playlist?

Speaker 1 (23:02):
What's on the playlist?

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Partys door a lot of party. That's door R Kelly.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Forgot on the list. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
So when she told me to cut it off, I
was really like distract.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
But I guess she is old school though, I damn
I love playlist. I like it.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
I liked music.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
You know what I'm saying, I'm with you, but now
that when I heard that song, I was like, are
we not supposed to be bucking to a playlist?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
No? No, fucking, no, fucking just everything's before in the
car when you're getting shot at home, but in their
bedroom it's just you and her.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
What about what about the ring sounds range?

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I never did.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Making love the rain sounds, but like sometimes I'll turn
it on, like you know, because I know we're gonna
go to sleep after, so I'll turn the rain sounds
on like before things get start making love.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, I love that's like slow, which.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Is beautiful to the rail.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Crazy, but we can't have the TV on either. TV
is distracting. I would say that because times don't let
it be my show.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Like no, y'all.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Like something like Martin when you know everywhere you know, distracting.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Is like that's horrible.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
If I'm sucking and the girl starts laughing to us,
I'm so that's.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I'll be having a watch step for work mosastic. Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah. I was like, just I told you I'm gon
talk with the person, so I like to talk anyway.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, but you didn't give us too much of what
you say, you guys, I talk you through it.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
So now G has a girlfriend, yep, but there's other situations.
I don't know what's going on with this whole How
do you feel about women that go back and forth?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Like?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
I respect it, Okay.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
I respect it. I just don't like the girls who
like M like I don't know who they are. Like
if you know who you are with it and you
know like you wanna both, Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
So this is my first girlfriend. I've had sex with
a lot of girls, but this is my first girlfriend.
And I mentioned that it's conventional. Just a couple of months,
I mentioned that it's unconventional because sharing.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Is Karen mm hm. So you know, so what y'all
be sharing, we be sharing and Karen had like girls
is just gods, we haven't shared with another girl just
just god?

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, for real? Are you so you're not a possessive person? No?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
A threesome is my favorite sexual activity. I think honesty
is the most important thing, right, Like.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
You just want to see Yes, there's a very clear
and this, uh, you know, we're on the same page
as far as where we.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Are, who we are, what we want what we like
what we don't like.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
And yeah, but I would always be the girl like
I would never have a girlfriend, like you know, I
like pussy, but I don't like bitches type shit.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
But we just we're like besties.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
We're like little twinsies and we be dressing thelike and like,
you know, we spend a lot of time together.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
You're getting your best orgasms with her, and.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Sh she's she's good at what she does her first girlfriend. Yeah,
we're each other's first girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
I'm that's nice in life to be like experiencing something
new together.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
It's so cute. Where do you see this going? Though?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
I don't see I can tell you this. I don't
see it going to exclusiveness. And we're good with that. Yeah,
you get what I'm saying, Like there's never going to
be just us.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Because yeah, and so does she. Yeah, this is also interesting.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I respect her.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
Yeah, and it's it's on a level where I don't
think a lot of people would be able to do it,
you know what I'm saying, because so many people are
like no, just me and you, or you know, or jealous,
like I'm never jealous when guys try to talk to
her or and she's always the one to be like, oh,
that's my girlfriend. Like she'll tell everybody like do y'all

(27:26):
ever like because guys probably also think like, oh we
can all.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Does that happen a lot too?

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Every time?

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Okay, every time a guy trying to talk.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
To her and she's like, this my girlfriend and he'd
be like, oh, well, what's up with and it's.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Like does it work? It don't work?

Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, Yeah, sharing is caring, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Like.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
How do you feel, Josh, because you said a lot
of times people were like women not a lot, but
like they'll go with you like on the low. How
do you feel about that? Like does that bother you?
When you're like, I'm not no secret.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
A little. Well, that's why I stop because if it bothered,
if it bothers me, I'm gonna stop. Yeah, I let
it go, But at the time I didn't, just because man,
you should. I mean I was I was fucking some polities.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
I have my way, so like you had sometimes, but
you were like, I can't believe this is believe it's
this one.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
I can't believe it's this one exactly. So like you
know what I'm saying. When you when you know what
it is. It's kind of like, okay, cool, I'll play
the game. I'm not a I'm not a possessive person either.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Okay, so you're not jealous, You're not possessive.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I'm not possessive. In fact, it's funny to me the
idea of like, yeah, like it's like a secret I
got something on you, Like I know if I see
you out.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
See acting like that.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Text we live like she's going about, I look like
that's how it's so easy.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
How are you about women taking charge with you? What
you mean like just kind of like taking charge.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Like charge Okay, No, I mean the open that door.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
I mean in the open that door. Okay, all that open.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
I'm not good, Like I mean, ain't know. You're not
gonna strap me or nothing like that like resid you're
talking about.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
You're not ambidixious.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
God damn right, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
You've never had nobody try that on you?

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Or do it? Come on girls? Respected? Like I feel
like they'll try you. They try you.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
If you they can like try noah, they know, do
you have to get a different dick, like a different
strap or because I've seen that conversation too, like guys
don't change their dick every time they why should I?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
I agree, Yeah, I'm not. I mean I feel like,
as long as it's clean.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Clean o god, I'm not you don't do that. I
strap Like it's like it takes like a few times
before we get to strap into me to fuck, like
like that's like four fifth time, like for the first
few times, like we like ourselves. We learning I'm talking

(30:26):
we bobbing mental ship like freaky ship, like we just
like I feel like the strap is like I mean,
I like I didn't start doing that until late anywhere. Okay,
So like I'm not I'll do it, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Do you like it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
I mean I like please with my girls or whatever
she likes. I'm witty what I'm saying, Like it's a
It's like it's it's a craft. Like I really love
to like run a woman's body. And I feel like
you don't need.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
Yeah, you don't even really need it, so so you're
not the one that's gonna wear it.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
And like I don't even take what.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I don't even take it out of town with me.
I think that's so weird. I don't need like we
need to touch your back. There's happened one time me
and my we went to Mexico. I brought it with that.
He was like, I know what this is about. Pulled

(31:25):
it out in the airport, would have died.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
You gotta just have to skin because he was to
pull it out.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Damn's just gonna have to skin too.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah. Yeah, no, that's like, I don't bring that shop.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
You don't need it.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
Yeah, you're like, I got but you know, for that,
it was like the first or second time and she
asked for it.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
She asked for what.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
She diet it. Okay, yeah, she asked for it.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
She asked for what the first time she gets it.
I'm just saying, I don't leave with them.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
You just don't leave with that. Now, I want to
talk about this son in Santa Monica bar.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah, tell me about this experience, because that's a real story.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
This is okay. It was just I like that side.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
It was just thinking it was a singer that I
was missing with. I'm not gonna say her name, but
she invited me to a bar in Santa Monica and
then she loved on me, told me how much she
wanted me, and she was interested in me and how
much she loved me.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
But this is a friend of yours. You were cool, Okay,
we was friends.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
I always thought about sucking her, but never took it
to the next level. Why because she was in a relationship.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
So so we went to the bar and literally she
kicked her friends out. My car. My homies went the
other way. We went to her crib. Fuck. Next day,
she her her boot was coming to town, and like
she switched up on me and said, like we wasn't
supposed to do that. It was just like we can't
be friends.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
What it was nuts and that it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
It was so it was such a hurtful moment for
me because I was like, damn, Like you can blame
it on the alcohol. You know how you say blame
it on the alcoholic. I hate that. Don't blame it
on the alcohol with me. So to the truth yea,
So to this day, like I don't mess with girls
who like like try to take shots, okay, to like
warm up to fucking with me.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Because then it's kind of like an excuse.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
You would never blame it on the alcohol. Right. Ever, again,
I need you to know what you're here for, and
like I need you to know that this is what
you wanted, and like, yeah, like, don't think about me too,
don't don't just get your rocks off. How fun and
then wake up.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
That's herful because it really is.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Because it's somebody you thought you was cool with and
you initiated this situation. Yes, and then because you were
in a relationship and you cheated that that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah I was nuts, but I'm so glad it happened,
because like, what if it happened to somebody who didn't
have shit to lose and it could have just been
a long work. I learned the lesson from it too.
Don't fuck like like a woman. I don't know that
been on liquor shit is just dumb. I think you're
too wrong for that. Yeah, you're not gonna do that,
So like, I don't play with that anymore.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Because it felt like from the way you told this,
that was the intention, like come out here. She knew
what she wanted, right, but she got what she wanted period.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
What caused the celibacy.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
One of the reasons. That was definitely one of the reasons.
Like I'm telling you like less when you were, because
when you and less man, you get yourself in situations
that if you were to just like calm down, and
if I would have just went home and been like, yo, shorty,
gotta boo, don't suck up. You know what I'm say, Yeah,
I wouldn't have been in none of this ship Mentally,
I would stay at my friend. Then again, I don't

(34:45):
even know she was a friend that I think, Yeah,
she was a demon if anything, you know what I'm saying.
So yeah, but that was a tough situation I learned.
So something one of the bars about that, Like I
think after that shit happened two or three days ago,
two or three days later, went the studio and wrote it.
I was like, Yo, this ship. I can't I can't
process it. I can't understand how she can just switch

(35:06):
up like that. I couldn't get it. I couldn't like wow,
I couldn't get it.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
And you also look at it like this is my peer.
We was cool. It ain't like I just met.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
You, right, Yeah, it was nuts.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
How do you feel about this industry? It is a
wild yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
And then also for you having moved from and I
know this happened years ago, but from behind the scenes
to in front of the scenes, Like, what do you
find has changed?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
How do I okay? How do I feel about the industry.
I feel like the industry is is good and bad.
It just like anything else. I feel like you got
I feel like there's good and bad people.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
You feel like you have real friendships that you've made.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
No, okay, no everybody shot they asked with that Diddy
ship brom it's like one of two people that like
show love to you.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
You mean everybody is, because I do feel like with Daddy,
I want to say. What I've heard from behind the
scenes was they felt like that was fucked up for
you because you had an amazing project at the time
that all that was happening. That I feel like that's
what people at that time we're saying, And they felt
like it was messed up that you got caught up
in the cross hairs of that.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
That's what I was hearing.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
That's love. I respect that. I respect that. Like, but
nobody hit me. Also, y'all can text me and see
how you're feeling good. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I feel like everybody just went ghosts. Like the same
people who hit me up can pull up to the
parties the same niggas who was just man just everything,

(36:37):
you know, who didn't change? The women A lot of
women didn't change, right, women stayed down for me. Women
stayed down for me, like but like the niggas just
got weird, you know what I'm.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Saying, Right, do you feel but I feel like this
time around your press friend has been like are there
doors you feel like have closed?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
No?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Okay, that's not good. That's good.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
No, but see Okay, So the industry and the artists
like like I don't know, I'm not shouting on artists,
but there's some like everything I think I box everything,
kind of compartmentalize everything, you know what I'm saying. So
when you ask me about the industry, I'm thinking about
like that's good and bad people as artists, Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. Then it's good and bad, like

(37:22):
like when it comes to like A and RS and
journalists and podcast it's good and bad and everything. But
me just hanging out with artists, you know what I'm saying,
trying to like bald with them. I don't really think
I have real real friends like that in't it? You
know what I'm saying. C B was a real one, right,
you know what I'm saying. Yes, Mary was a real one,
and she's gonna gave me a lot of like support

(37:45):
during that shit. You know what I'm saying. C B
gave me a lot of support during that shit. Sister
also gave me some support doing that.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Shit, because it ain't like it's you. You just were
in a situation.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
That guilty by association. It is a real thing.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
And you have STEVJ producing on the album too.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
That was like and then that too, like I was.
You know how it is. You know, you get scared
of working with anybody. Yeah, like you like, damn, I
can't be close to nobody. I'm nervous even like you
know what I'm saying. It's really like just a fucked up.
It's scary how they like, even what they're doing with
Kanye right now, you.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Know, like yeah, the Wireless Festival, everybody, all the major
sponsors are pulling out. They want him. I mean they're like,
he did a song called hell Hitler.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, the man wore KKK black. He's done a lot,
you know what I'm saying. But you know, he makes
amazing music.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
I think you can make amazing music, but you can't
control how people react to certain things that may be
controversial that you've said are done. So there may be
major sponsors that don't fuck with you, but at the
same time, you're selling out arenas in LA back to
back and having record nights. So it's just a balance
of like knowing that. It's interesting because even like listen,

(38:59):
I work with people who are Jewish who are like,
I'm going to a kanya. I don't give a shit,
like I we.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
We're up on him. I love him, hey Dan, And
that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
But then at the same time, Pepsi's pulling out, Anna
has a bush pulled out, PayPal pulled out, like people
are like, we're not messing with this, but what can
you do? Like it's the repercussions of things that have happened.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
But he'll be all right, Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Even look even at Chris Brown, like Chris Brown can
sell out tours and do histories himself, certain major sponsors
and certain award shows don't mess with him.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Still to this day, eighteen years old.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
These years later, but he still is going to be
able to and you know, to make and it's kind
of like what can you do? But it's not like
he's canceled, you know what I'm saying, And I don't.
I don't believe that people for real get canceled.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
I think that there's certain things and doors they can't
get in, but there's certain ones when you're truly talented,
that people are willing to overlook things.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I listen from you saying that that's hard because I
really we were talking about canceled culture, and I'm like,
I feel like cancel culture only works in black culture.
M hm, you know, like that's like they I feel like.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
We forgive a lot of things for like even look,
you mentioned R.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Kelly earlier, there are people who are going hard for
Kelly and there are people who are still going to
listen to his music. I still go places and hear it.
R Kelly is not canceled. I mean, it's fucked up legally.
He's in jail, like you know, for him, and.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
It's not a taboo player ar killing.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
That there's a lot of but it still happens, and
it doesn't happen as much though conent or even a
nikky like R. Kelly, to me, is the most of
this conversation canceled for sure.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I mean I think that, yeah, real.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
For real, because like even when they play the ship,
I left like, oh shit, I did that too, Like,
oh you're playing they playing r Kelly, Like I can't
believe they're playing ar Kelly. You know what I'm saying,
Like it's definitely a shocker student here r Kelly.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Like in service blocks, What did you think about fifty
Cents doing that documentary? A man?

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Oh godly, so I think, man, I think honestly, every
man's flawed, and so for a man to show another
man's flaws, I hope. I pray to God fifty is
good for the rest of his life with every decision
that he makes, because our God forbid that somebody comes
and puts a microscope on his life. Like that. That's it.

(41:29):
It's all like I said, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Did you watch it? Yeah? Oh yeah, weatching I was
wondering if you Yeah, we was watching it.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
But I was just watching it because because like, bro,
I love I'm a real music here, like I love
the culture, and it's a lot of things I didn't know.
I didn't know about a lot of things in that documentary.
But also he's in jail, he's paying for his sins.
So you know what I'm saying, I think we just

(41:58):
don't know. Like I said, I just think that, like
you know, we gotta be everybody is going to have
their moment, you know what I'm saying under the microscope.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
So what if he comes home and wants to work
with you, are you still.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
I don't know? I think I don't know how he
would be with me. I don't know if he be that.
I don't know if you want to work with me,
you know what I'm saying, like like that's those are
two things that you know that I think we would
have to like talk talk. You know what I'm saying,
We would have to really talk because you know, it's

(42:34):
a lot of things. He probably looking at me like, Yo,
you didn't you wasn't down, you know what I'm saying.
So if that's I don't know, this is just my Yeah,
you don't know. This is just me saying.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
I think for him being down, is you not bashing him?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Right?

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yeah, That's what I feel like because at a point
a certain point, listen, at the end of the day,
there's certain things we know for sure happened because we've
seen it that was at all like you know what
I'm saying, and there's a lot but trying to bash him.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
I feel like for him, that's.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
You know, yeah, yeah, that's just how I look at
it because there's a lot of people that are like
turning their back.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
And I also feel like.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
If it was me, I would want people to still
have their livelihood. I don't want everybody going down with me, right, Yeah,
So if something happens gig Jordan, you all.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Free to do talk about listen. I don't know you
want this, thank God?

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Imagine and not go outside and do some crazy ship.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Okay, I go to sleep keeping this song.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Speaking of marriage, she's on the song lucky and funny. Listen,
talk to me about getting married on that song and phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
How it just for like.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
The conversation Mary's like she's rocking with I saw people
talking about like it wasn't even a conversation about like gay, straight, nothing,
It's just relationship.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I like that. Come on, see that's what you was
a journalist. Real people is just different, thank you.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
So different. But it's fun listening to the album. So
listen when is dope? I'm good with it.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, Oh so what's so funny? I did lucky because
you know she's doing a residency in Vegas. I was like,
call like.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Lucky, like Vegas gambling, gambling.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
So I was like the whole idea was it was
just kind of like she's letting me know. I think
every time you cheat, you you rolling the dice. Man.
You think you lucky today? Man, I really think you
lucky to keep doing the same dowmb ship over and
over again. And so that's just her in the hook
is like do what you think you need to do.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
You know she knows we love you, Mary.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
I like that real. Oh my god, you a couple
of going. I can never date a Capricorn.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
What you a scorpio? A month after me? Double my god,
I had a terrible quarious experience.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I had a terrible Capricorn experience.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Okay, I believe it was your fault.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Already now y'all claim y'all are to territory.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Really Yeah, that was a nigga.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
He hurts you, m M. I had nothing to do
with it. I'm not a cheated lady. I've never cheated.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Never. You never know, you never got caught.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I never cheated.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Come on, Jackson, No.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
No, Like I'm like I thought about it.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
We was on a break.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I thought about it and like, they can't hurdle that,
Like I'll be like, I'll tell them, Like, so you
want to you want to suck her?

Speaker 1 (45:47):
You would tell somebody.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
I thought, Yeah, there's a girl that I want to
talk to, and that that's like I might as well
suck her. I should have just sucked her and JUSTI
But I'm trying to be God, damn.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Have ever been cheated on that you know of?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Yeah? I got cheated on one time? Yes, but she
actually is married to him and has a baby.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Okay, making it proud valid at that point, making better
we was.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
I was beefed out with the dude for a minute
and we had a little moment, but then we like,
he came to me apologize and I was like, bro, honestly,
y'all in love. And she wasn't really gay anyway.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
You're not really gay. I was.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
She ended up with and that's what she wanted to
I'm not really gay.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
She's just afraid you've been.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
To a girl.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
I really did. You're experiences with a girl?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
I think every woman is supposed to experience a woman.
I think that's your best or no, I think that's
your best.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Jordan's like, I'll be down to find out.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
You know, well, are you gay?

Speaker 3 (47:08):
If you less woman, it's your pussy, but you don't
it hurts or you don't never do none of that.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I don't think it's gay, but I think you just
needed I'm not saying be gay. I said you need
to have a experience. What I want.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I'm not experienced.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I'm not putting game.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Experience doesn't make you gay.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Exactly about to say, but people dont feel a way
about that.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
It's just you know, like.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
I mean some guys that have tried it.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah, so they're not gay if they just tried it
and didn't like.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
It, all of them blew my booty once. What you said?
What I don't know, man, I don't know. I can't
speak for men because I'm not one to speak. I
don't want to speak for me and women, bro and
like for a woman and what we're talking about, I
can't talk about these niggas. But for you, an experience

(48:01):
is an experience, and I think you should experience it
one time in your life and see what I'm talking about.
That's it.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
I don't really be like this was amazing.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
There what's that one and done? You're gonna switch up?

Speaker 4 (48:23):
You might, you might turn the TV off for that one.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
The one is done, you you ain't gonna want to do.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
That's watch ship for work.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
That's nuts, I'm telling you wise, Why am I man?

Speaker 3 (48:36):
I'd be like, yeah, now we have another little segment
that we do. I have a question for you, and
this is called in the grid. In the grid, yes,
all right, So here is this Okay, I want to
see what you think these are about viral topics and
things that people have posted. My brother passed away and
at his funeral, his wife showed up, perfectly dressed PHLM makeup,

(48:58):
bright red lipstick. The moment his body was to rest,
she turned around and left. When we questioned her, she
said we should ask the woman he died with to
mourn him instead. Yes, my brother passed away in a
hotel with another woman. But still, how does a wife
walk away like that?

Speaker 2 (49:11):
That sound like a Tyler Perry move.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
But that's sound like some shit that happens in real life.
A whole fucking lit Yep, you know, so I want
to ask you. It's the great question. She still went
to the funeral, and I give her props for that.
The man was cheating and died with another woman's awful?

Speaker 1 (49:33):
What do you think about that? If that was you?

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Could you show up to somebody's funeral, if say you
got married and they died underneath another woman, would you
be okay with that? And would you still go?

Speaker 2 (49:47):
My question?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
No, you wouldn't go.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
No, Wow, the dad got to bury the dead? Don't know.
M Yeah, I ain't gonna be there.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
You said the dead got to bury the dead.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Let the dead buried the dead. Don't know? That's all wrong?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
She what do you Jordie's thinking about it?

Speaker 4 (50:03):
I think I would pay my respects. I think so
if we especially if we were married for a long time.
I mean sure, yeah, I was thinking like if it
was kids involved, right, if we had kids, I would
show up for my children.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, all right, okay, it was kids. That's a good
one that y'all really thought deep about that. I'm just thinking, yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
I like children, if there was kids involved, But I mean,
I would show up to pay my respects. But I
probably would have did what she did.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
I mean, the greatest revenge already happened.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
He's gone. So yeah, yeah, you know it's.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Interesting because I know somebody whose mom her husband was
cheating and she didn't find out till right before he died,
and damn, she did go and she told and her
mom told me, I'm actually glad he cheated because if
I didn't find out, I wouldn't have been able to
move on ever. Yeah, and she said, because he did that,

(51:07):
now I feel like it's okay for me to like
date somebody and do because if he wouldn't have done that,
I would have ever felt like I was doing something
wrong if I wasn't cheated.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
But because you know that he was a loyal damn.
But because that happened before, I mean, it still.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Was awful to lie.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
When he he had cancer, when he was on his deathbed,
he had the nerve to ask his wife, can the
other women come see me?

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Because I love And she was like, I'm so fucking
lutely not.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Hell man, it's a horrible, dude. Yeah. Yeah, niggas is horrible.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
They will have the audacity every time.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
This is what you want, what you signed up for,
right now.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
That's what you're looking for.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
I'm not looking I respect, I'm I really don't like
spending that much time with men. If I'm gonna be honest,
I really don't. But every now and then they're cool.
I guess every now and then.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Every now and then, Joorney, would you date a woman?

Speaker 4 (52:15):
No, you know, hell no, no, sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
No, I just ship they get the hell no too. No,
I'm definitely not has a little jump off I do.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
I just don't have patience. I don't like dating period.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
I want to That's what I want to date.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
Mm hm, yeah, you need to date.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Say you've been on okay, so and you paid.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
I'm just asking because they said this new thing is
splitting the bill. That's also a new thing.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I mean, I mean I would if she wants she
was with it.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Have you ever dated somebody that had more than you?

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Hell yeah, hm. I used to talk to Madonna. Oh
that's right, I used to talk to I used to
talk to Madonna. Man, that was a good life. That
like a great life. That was a great life Madonna,
like like you know what I'm saying. It was just
it got bad because like a lot of black women
was hating on me for like all you dated when

(53:25):
that when she posted that video, I do know remember
the video on the page of us kissing and ship.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yes, Madonna together dating somebody.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
It was like, was that like your lady or was
it just friends?

Speaker 2 (53:38):
We were friends, but like she showed me love like it
was just a great like great whatever we had.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Did she value anything?

Speaker 2 (53:46):
It was Bob's no, that's my dog. Like she's working.
She's working on the movie in her life period.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
I want to say, Madonna, let me tell you something.
When to classic songs, you can tell me. I learned
about the word virgin from Madonna. When I was very young.
I went and I asked the lunch lady at school.
I said, excuse me, what's a virgin? I was a
little kid. She said, go home and ask your mom.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Oh wow, Yeah, I learned from Thong song Elan throng
from Thong song by Cisco.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
That's crazy, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
It's so crazy how music can teach you things. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Stories. I always tell Madonna, like one of my favorite albums.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
You know, I worked with now Rogers and he produced
a lot of stuff from Madonna's you know now Rogers
like he actually when they asked to work because they
was on the same label. They didn't know what to
do with Madonna and he was like, I'll do it.
I just went part of the publishing. He didn't even
ask for money, and he came the fuck up. He

(54:55):
knew what that was about to be.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Absolutely that was that was a time when people were
actually sawing the record too, like Madonna's a real star. Yeah.
I remember what she was telling me one day. She
just looked around at everybody that she came up with
is gone, and that was such a sad Everybody's like,
you're the last.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
About your class at that point about.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
It, George, she was naming on. I'm like, Michael, that's
gotta be scary to be the only person likes around.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
I feel like Madonna and City Lawper were in the same.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Era, right, Yeah, I mean it's I think probably before yeah,
but things.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Like that I'm trying to think of, Like when I
think of Madonna's I think she's still around.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Yeah yeah you said.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Older though, Yeah, but she was there was already propping.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
About Madonna and with that what that was like.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
It was just it was, you know, it's so crazy
because you would think that she's very It's like she's
not having been with a lot of women really okay,
she like you would have think I thought that it
was probably like the second woman she's ever been with.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
You're only the second. I think, Yeah, did you put
out this jap from I'm not crazy?

Speaker 3 (56:29):
I feel like that, but to keep it remember Donnada
and put out that sex book.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Remember she had Big Daddy Kane, Naomi Cambell.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Listen, like she had people getting I want to say
that she was one of the first people that was
really like comfortable with showing sexuality. She had the full
sex book. My mom bought that.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
They still have it at the house Like I was today, I.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Was just under that. She she like like, that's the moment.
I was like, damn, like you had super that's all
I was thinking, like, oh, yeah, you know that's how
I felt like I felt that's how I felt like,
That's that's how I felt. Definitely if you say like
your celebacy, you know, because like that's not going nowhere. Yeah,

(57:20):
that's my friend. I got a friend for life with her.
That's we went to, Yeah, I got she's really a friend. Like, yeah,
she didn't help me out navigating this whole artist ship.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Thinking about that her movies too, Remember she had that
movie definitely Seeking Susan that I haven't seen like at home.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Oh god, yeah, can you imagine that favorite movie?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Fine? And I knew she was fine there. That's what's
so crazy.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
That's nothing for your book later, I got it. I
got it in her book.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
I don't know. I don't think so, I don't.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Know what's your book.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
My books gonna be nuts. Give me about more years.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
No, but look, you can't do it without You can't
do it with fake names.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Name Shad and her names.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Yeah she did.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
She had something she had fake names was Wayne, but she.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Told what she told it was a method man.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
She just recently posted about that too, how the purplisher
told her that she had to and she felt bad
about it.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yeah, but like, I can't do that right now.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
I respect everybody like it's a secret society as trust.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
You know, scrowl.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Let's talk about that song for a second, and then
then following interlude on the phone, how are you with somebody?
Like do you think that in a relationship somebody should
be able.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
To just know?

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Ma'am you put the man on it. That's really no, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
No, I think that, Like, God, damn it, we are
our own people. We gotta stop that. I've been telling
my own girls that once you like realize you don't
own him and that you y'all, are your own person
you will be at peace. And you want to let
this nigga stress you out. Everything starts there. You don't
own him, he don't own you. Let's let's put it

(59:18):
there once you realize that. I think everything could be peaceful,
but it's not. It's like we I don't know why
we think we have to own and control something because
it's good. Like you, you love my personality. You love
how it was when I got you. Now you want
me to switch up. I would never tell you to
take that off because it's you. You're showing too much, nigga.
That's I like you like that right, That's how we met.

(59:41):
That's how we met. So I'm friendly on friendly, but
I wasn't. I was friendly when you met me.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
You love that ship, right, but you like it, but
you want to do you think that when you're a
single and things changed from when you're in a relationship,
some things do gotta get cut out.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Respective it's respect, yes, level of respect, but also there
is a level of respect. But you don't even like
you like you want me to sit in the corner
and not like talk like no, girls really want you
to like not talk to the girl. Who is that?
Are you talking about you? Some nice So are you smiling? WHOA? No?

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
So you? Because I know that's all that that while
you smileless, girls are more jealous.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
But I think sometimes people be weird if you're not jealous,
like some people like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Some toxic that's a toxic ship. So like scrolling through
somebody's pH I feel like, like women's intuition, it's so
cold if you if you got to scroll, you know
something going on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
I always say that too, but sometimes you be wrong
yeah yeah, or.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
They deleted it or you took it out of context.
That's normally on scroll. That's what happened to me. Like
I feel like, don't scroll so long when you keep
doing this, because if you go too far, like okay,
I can't even remember her, you don't remember her, Like
who was that? I don't even remember what we were
talking about. I can't even put that in context. But
like like if you want to go like two messages

(01:01:09):
in all right, but like you do you scroll? Because
you scroll, that means you, you know, flirt, and thus
I'm a flirt.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
You know what I'm saying, because I do think sometimes
if somebody read your messages, they can misinterpret, like sometimes
you just flirt a little but you don't mean nothing
by it, or you just yeah, she know Gemini, Yeah, Gemini,
the biggest flirts, y'all the worst flirts.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Oh yikes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
How do you feel having this album out right now?

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
This body of work that people are really like appreciating
and loving and you're getting amazing reviews and Angela, I've
been doing it because you know it's my type of joint.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Come on, thank you. I mean it feels so good
because like I just think R and B has to
be expensive. We have to like really like, we have
to love our R and B because if we don't,
they can take it from us. Yeah, and I really
wanted it to have. I wanted my music to live
in the club. I wanted my music to live in

(01:02:10):
the car. I wanted to have meaning, sustance, just like
the Ship that I listened to as a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
So, like I said, nostalgic feeling too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I like that because I say, like songs of women,
if you heard song Women, it was very like Nannies.
It was very like what's the four on one Like
that time R and B was very experimental, just fun.
Two thousands, R and B was niggas was making money then,
Like you know, we had the you can't call me

(01:02:38):
you know what I'm saying then, Like I think Magic
Blig had the KOC commercial.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Pop Crispy Chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
What was that KOC was that? I think it was well, churches,
it was one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
It wasn't churches, it was church.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
No, okay, But but everybody had deals like like R
and B artists had, Like she.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Was mad about that though. I felt like at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
She made money off yeah, and did you know what
I'm saying? So like but R and B was expensive then.
So I just want to go back to a term
where you could like put our music in commercials, Like
it could be in it could live in a Spike commercial,
it could live on on the soundtrack on TV. Like
it doesn't have to just commercial, right, you know it's

(01:03:21):
t when you sit up to you. I made my
own Spike commercials because I wanted to show how R
and B could be could be used just like the past.
And like that's like that's why I did it. Damn
actually be healed what.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
I'm just saying, I see this when you was walking
and you know what I'm saying, and Loo did. Yeah,
now I'll be paying attention. I actually love R and B.
Like when it comes to music, that is my genre.
If I'm in my car, if I'm at home. And
when your album came out, I was like, let me
listen to this jobs because I know previously like songs

(01:03:55):
for women that was inside. I was like, let me
put this on and see what we John B's on
the album, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Which was amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Wait song on it?

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Oh, my favorite songs on there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
I want to say, of course I love the Mary
Jay Blige Lucky because I said that earlier. But I
think I want to say my favorite song is I
like Santa Monica Bar.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
That's why I said that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
I like the story and I also like, I hate
to say this, but I like misfortune and R and
B and when things don't work out, I know that's
such fortune because we love like Amy Winehouse's album. We
love a Tony Braxon, we love a Mary j. Blige
when she was heartbroken and I hate that. We love
that so much.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
It's relatable, yes, but for.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Some reason, I don't know what it is with RG. Yes,
and like I let it burn.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
You know what I'm saying, Like I love when things
ain't working out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
I hate that for me, but you know, okay, yeah,
I think guilty of that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
No, we have we heard the sink the what songs
did we get?

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Maybe? Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:05:02):
Which one?

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
And I looked at the videos on your install just
make it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
I even I also like the song I can. Yeah,
I mean it's good. I think as a songwriter, you
working for yourself. The translation of you writing these huge
hit records for other people and then doing it for yourself,
it just hits different because we also know it's about you,
and it's a whole different feeling when you're writing about
experiences that you've had. When you know you got a

(01:05:32):
second phone.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Listen, and so I love that for you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Well that's a geminif I don't know when, and then
you don't know, how do you know which one is which? Okay,
there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
How do you know she got it for experience?

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
So which one is the which one is the Yeah? Yeah,
let's get it. Let's get it down in the work phone.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
It's the work phone.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
I do want to say this though, Well, it's nice
to be in a relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Let me roll two people. If you don't you know
what's crazy. Look what's in this picture right here?

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Click on it?

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Who that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Click on me? We can't see who is Who is him?

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Kay? Okay, all right? Who is him?

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
But what's your feet looking like?

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Let me see your damn I'm gonna see the damn
you gracious goodness, Look she looks she's betting it out first. Okay,
let me see. M hmm, I can't see from here.
Let me scroll. All right, we get it, We get it,

(01:06:53):
all right. Listen, can you m me when you when
you break your celibacy, you tell me who it is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
I'll let you know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
I I want to know. Just send me a check mark.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
I'll show you who it is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Okay, I won't say that your secret safe here?

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Oh my god, I don't want time. I will, I
definitely will. I really hope it's soon. I hope too.
I found somebody that I actually fucking I'm ready to
I'm ready to like somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
You ready to lick in. I'm ready to lock in,
give it the world.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Would you get a prenup? Hell? Yeah, okay, I just
want to make sure i'm.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Not getting married though ever, No right, no, no, just
saying in general, but you want to get married.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Teen twelve, twenty years but yeah, talk about the way.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
She didn't say yes, she said, we'll talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
I just want somebody to go on vacations with, getting
nasty with.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Okay, you want a girlfriend, I want I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Know if it's a girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
I want to partner, a part Okay, Well, your d
is about to be lit because somebody you could go
on vacations with, spend time with, had some fun with.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
We're not.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
We don't do that, but.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
DISI thank you so much for coming to It was
a pleasure. I hope that your prayers wearing today and
you feel good prayers.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
That wasn't that bad.

Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
Next time, when the celibacy is over.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Spilled, I will.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
I'm ready. In fact, we gotta do josy celibacy after math,
and we should I do a sleep over in my
house right periods.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
I got them coming because I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Like, where are we going.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
With you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
The same pasted pajamas.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
I get the food.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
I got to be passed out, get some crass. You
can chill, smoke you never know you can? You know?

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
That's Joy's house.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
I love. No, we're not doing that's scary.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
That's I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Want none of that house.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
If you get my daughta to come, I'll come to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Okay, that deal.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
We're there. We have a side. You've got to understand.
I love it all right. His list service chi