LS Episode 549: A “Normal Tuesday” (feat. Carmela Clutch & Millyz)

Millyz steps into a conversation he definitely wasn’t ready for.

Carmela Clutch opens up about her journey into the adult industry — from leaving behind a traditional career path to jumping straight into her first scene without hesitation. What follows is a mix of wild stories, real insight, and moments that catch everyone off guard.

From Spanish dirty talk to one of the craziest experiences ever shared on the couch, the conversation quickly escalates. Millyz keeps it real about dating, boundaries, and why certain things just aren’t his go-to — which leads to a full breakdown (and debate) on what actually matters in the bedroom.

This episode blends humor, honesty, and unexpected gems you don’t usually hear.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up. It's lip service, y'all. I'm Angela Yee, I'm
Gg Maguire.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm Jeordie George, I'm Carmela clutch I'm Milli Millies.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
We took it too easy on you last time you
were here. Yeah, so you know we had Carmela Clutches
here to really.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Just an expert, yes, an.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Expert, she's what would you call yourself? You're an adult
film star?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yes, adult film star or expert?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay both?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, sexual athlete.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I don't know, are you a good one on? Because
sometimes it'd be like I see it.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
I'll be with a porn old girl or something, and
my man be like, I sawr given had she's trash,
like some.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Of got the porn name. And then the porn connoisseurs
be like, no, she wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
So J mac Manuel and a couple of other big
guys have told me that I give the best head
in their entire career.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Wow, those are some big names.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
So I'm not and I say that I'm the best
because I'm not, but I hold my own.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
You are the best for some people, though some people
would categorize you as the best. Thank you, Thank you.
It's so funny because we get notes all the time, yes,
we do. And the notes that we got on you,
I could tell the person that sent it watched a
lot of your videos because it shows how many videos
they watched. So it was the nose and then it
said two hundred and thirty seven video watched. So yes,

(01:27):
oh that's awesome. Yeah, so that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
That's like, that's flatters.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah we have more than that.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
That's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
You're from Miami, yes, originally okay, originally from Miami. So
I wanted just to give us some clarity because this
is your first time up here. So how did this
even start for you? Like your career path, because I
know you were doing other things like sports marketing.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yes I was. I was doing marketing for a while.
I decided that field wasn't for me. It just wasn't fulfilling.
I didn't like my lifestyle. I went back to school,
went pre med for a little while. Didn't like that either.
Don't like the field of medicine. I came to the
conclusion that I just want to make people happy, travel
the world, work with like minded people, live my life,
you know, not just work to live to work. So

(02:15):
while on my way back to the Peace Corps. I
was going to go to the Peace Corps. Oh my gosh,
I was going to leave to China in July. I
am a cat.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I have lived nine different lives.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
But thank you. So I was on my way to
the Peace Corps and they rescinded my invitation because of COVID.
At the time, we didn't know it was COVID.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Just knew that.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
They said thank you, but no thank you. And I
had been working for a content creator out in Miami,
and I saw firsthand, Oh damn, I can if I
could just apply my marketing to this. I could do
this if I was cute enough. And someone turned around
and was like, why don't you try? And I was like, okay.

(02:55):
So I shot my first scene that night, and then
I just got it.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
I threw myself first deep in let's go.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
My first content scene was a double penetration.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
People usually ease into that. I don't think I do
anything nice and easy. Yeah, you were like, I'm gonna
really throw myself into that. But I'm a sexual person.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I've always really enjoyed my sensuality, sexuality.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
I've always enjoyed the art of deduction.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I obviously don't have a problem being very forward if
I need to. So this was kind of the perfect
fit for me.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
So you had done double penetration in your real life
outside of filming a scene. No, this was my first time.
See that's what I find interesting because your first.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
No, But shortly after that, I did nine guys off
camera just for the plot.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Interesting were.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
The which one the double pen or the nine guys?
I was nervous. I was very, very very nervous. The
two gentlemen I worked with, if were true professionals, they
eased me into things, and then it picked up very
quickly and I was able to keep up. And because
I was able to keep up, I guess that that

(04:12):
kind of drummed up a little bit of a name.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
What type of work do you have to do though,
to be able to have a train ran on you
by nine guys? Because really they're doing the work right.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
You're taking a lot of dick.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Okay, you're taking a lot of dick.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
You're opening a lot of things, you're keeping things open.
And I mean, if I were working with a camera
and a crew, I'd be opening to camera, which is
a lot harder than it seems, right, because you're holding
a very uncomfortable position for extended periods. So just to
look good, just to look good, just so that they
can get the view of it. It's not so much
about how it feels at that point, it's more about

(04:45):
giving the experience to.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Okay, least, what do you watch when you look?

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I just reflect on memories.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
So you don't watch.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Okay, yeah, I gotta you know, I gotta have it already.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Do you watch your own ship like that and things?
You don't have to think about it?

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I got it real, like even when I was young,
I had a real graphic memory, so I'd always.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Be able to reference that. Yeah, like reference that.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
I can't really get turned on by just seeing people
fucking and ship like that.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Okay personally, but seeing your you filmed yourself though.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
I was filmed myself, but yeah, like you know, in
the regular capacity.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
You filmed her film Sexual Encounters and yeah that's.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
What I mean.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Watch you you know now?

Speaker 4 (05:40):
But point it is dope though, like like it's just
if I got to go with one, I'm gonna go
with like a girl I really thought about because I could,
you know, picture the moment. It's like music. When I
do music, I go.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Back to the point where I was living.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
If I like, I could take myself to the loom
on the beach, or I could take myself to the train,
I could take myself wherever. And it's the same thing
with you know, sex, when I was with a girl like,
I think about it like.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
And that does it for me.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
You know what sometimes does it for me? And it's
not so much the visual of the porn. It's the
audio of it. Yeah, it's hearing the man breathe heavy
and grunt and moan, hearing the woman get off like
that will sometimes do more for me than the visual.
I can close my eyes and just imagine those moments
playing the highlight reel back in my head with just
the sound. So in that way, porn still works for

(06:31):
people who may not be visually inclined, like yourself.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
What have you ever felt like somebody wasn't talkative enough
or making enough, you know, because sometimes and you're right,
like audibly, you want to hear certain things. You want
to hear the moaning. You want to hear that somebody's
being pleased. Have you ever really's been in a situation
where you're, like, say, something naked noise? Are you here

(06:56):
with me.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Nah, I've had that said to me though, like you know,
like you know, damn, you just went silent on.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Me, and why would that happen?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I was focusing, like I was trying to you know,
it might have been good. I had to like try
not to come. Yeah, like that, you had to focus
up real quick, and she's just.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Like, damn, you just went silent on me. But like
if I talk to you right now, yeah, it's sober.
But once I get past this three four five minute
threshold on good fast Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
So the silence is a good thing. That means for him,
I mean for him, silence is a good thing. That
means that like you're trying to hold back, yeah, or if.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's just like a like a fast encounter like you know,
tours ship or whatever, like I ain't you know, it's
just one of those like I'm not going to really
talk too much because I'm not too There's been times
i haven't been you.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Know, to what is the point, I'm not gonna lie,
it's the third of the kill, like what is it?

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, probably because there's been times when I've been fucking
and I'm like, well, I'm fucking this.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Girl for that Wow, it's awful.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
You know what, I've had the same thought about half
the guys I've dated, So I feel you feel you
dated them.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
I just knew them for minutes, your.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Stump full of come. We all make mistakes, you know,
so I want to ask you this, Carmel, when you
because even before we were just doing like the little
sound check, everybody checked their mond so oh yeah, yeah exactly.
But you also know that hearing that noise can make
a man like that is sometimes the difference that that

(08:40):
will take him over the edge. Oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
There are times where I'll bring out certain things specifically
I'm not fluent in Spanish, but my fans love it
when I speak the dirty things in Spanish. The few
things that I do know that are in Spanish, like
what puppy dog domito?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
What give me your come?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I want you to come?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Oh did you know that?

Speaker 3 (09:03):
I definitely knew that.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
I don't know that one, but like what they should
be saying, I mean, yeah, like you learned, like let
you early and then that's milk.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Ego, ego, you've been there.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Hard give it to me harder.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, okay, I.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Was like you could be like my thumb, like as
a man.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
That's another take it.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, don't look at him.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Okay, we know what you're doing now, millions haze that
album out right now, R and P rhythm and pain.
So this particular album is more focused on the ladies.
You know. It also feels like right and you've been
through a lot rhythm and pain. But then I also
that that could be a great porn Yeah, actually it would.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, sound like a soft porn.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Rhythm.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, like deep penetrating. I mean there's potential there. M Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Have you when's the last time you felt pain like
during an encounter during Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I mean are we talking about like unwelcome pain? Are
we talking about welcome pain?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Last Sunday, not this one that passed the one before.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yes, listen, forgive me father.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I will continue to send yes, over and over and over.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
What's the most painful, Like, what's happening?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
So at the time, he was just giving me some spanks.
He was throttling my throat a little bit, and I
was asking for it harder.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Was it was nice? Okay? Yeah, but it's that's fairly vanilla.
But yes, yeah, that's not too crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's not too crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
How do you feel about being too.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I don't really be getting choked. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
It might be in a moment if she's like on
top and just put her hands on my neck a
little bit, but I don't feel like I'm getting.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Like passing out.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, it's just like you know, it's a trade off.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Listen, So what do you do when some when you
put your hand around a girl's neck and she smiles,
do you realize that you're kind of in trouble too?

Speaker 3 (11:26):
What do you mean I'm in trouble?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Like if you ever put your hand into a girl's
neck and she loves it, and she loves it, she's like,
yeah you ever.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Know, No, that's my type automatically, that's like something. But
it's only when I see like girls I really like,
I just wanted to grab their throat and ship like that,
and it's like.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Let me see your hands.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, we got compatibility.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Biting, Yeah, biting, biting.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
I'm a little into biting or nippiving it, but I
bruise easily so that I'm like, just look like an incident.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Have you tried taking arnica?

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Arnica?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
We do have arnica, you can put it on top
of it, but there's also too you could drink ic
tea and that one is probably the best one actually
for bringing that one out.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, I've ta tea is great. The topical is cool,
but the tea. Yeah, she said, if you don't had
an incident where you're like, okay, this is too much
because you know, sometimes people don't know and like they've

(12:36):
always said, you got to have safe words and things
like this.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, absolutely, there have been times. Usually you before a scene,
we go over dos and don'ts, things that we're okay with,
things that we aren't, and those will fluctuate and change
throughout the day, week, month. What might be okay today
is not okay tomorrow, and that's fine. You know, I
might be cleaned out for anal and ready to go
one day, I might not the next day. I might

(13:00):
have some bruising on my button, don't want you to
smack it, you know, things like that. So we do
that before every scene, and then afterwards we kind of
check in and say, hey, ho had that go for you?
Was everything okay? Where you respected well? You know, would
you come back and work for us again? That's how
those professional scenes usually go. It's very very I want
to say, I don't want to say choreographed, but or scripted.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
But it is structured.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
But it's structured and it's organized, and it's very respectful.
And I think that's something that most people don't know
about when it comes to creating content. They just go
for the aggressive without realizing there's a whole background and
a whole you know, prep that goes into it. But
they shouldn't know that because it's supposed to look like
they shouldn't, but they should respect that when they try

(13:45):
to do it in their own life. They should be
communication always before.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
What's the craziest thing somebody's asked you to do? Millies?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Probably I don't know, just like pin some like real
hard until they bruise.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I don't know. I'm trying to think of that weird.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Shit I want that.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
I don't know anything that, especially being a rabbit, they
could come off like domestic violence, like but.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
The I'm saying that they asked when not saying that
you did it.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, But it's just it's a fine line though, because
especially if it's like a new person, you don't really
know who you're dealing with.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
She might just tell you to do some crazy shit.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
And got a whole plot that is something to think about.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
You don't want to get lined up like that.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Well, one of the things I know a male dom
that I know in the industry does is he tells,
especially someone.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Who's a male domb what that means.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Dominate, a male dominator dominate.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yes, what they'll do is, especially working with somebody for
the first time, they'll ask them, go ahead and hit
me here, here, wherever, as hard as I'm allowed to
hit you.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Nothing like, oh, I know an example, like you hit
me and that's how hard I can hit you.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
And then there's also you could do red, red, yellow, green.
You know, as you're slapping or spanking or whatever, the red,
yellow green. The person who is receiving those the spankings
or the inflictions or whatever, the impact play, let's call it,
that's the proper term for it. The person receiving the
impact play will say green if they're fine, y'all slow

(15:12):
down or softer, red, immediate, universal, Yeah, listen.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
These are things. Let me ask you this in your
real life outside of that, like, are you what is
your sex life like outside of work?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Before I got into the industry, it was wild. I
was rampant. I was running through men, especially after my
college years, I would be I was Rihanna. I basically
was like, get out, get out, like.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Thank you, next good leave bye, thank you bye. Stop
calling me.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
But going into the industry it calmed me down a lot.
It really did. So my personal life. I mean, I
might be having my little sexual adventures here and there,
but I usually frame so that I can have more.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
How do I put more?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I don't want to say stamina, more grumph to my
scenes all abstained For the most part, as far as
personal sex goes.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
That's interesting. Now, really tell me this because what did
you have an expectation if in real life, like say
you guys were dating, that she is going to be wild?
But then it was I wonder.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
If you like a point, I like when you meet
a porn song she's really on that like in real life,
because then I'm like, it's like a rapper living there.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Raps, you know, right, and those times exist and there's
a time and place. But a cook who a chef
who cooks all day doesn't necessarily want to come home
and judicies or or cook in their own kitchen.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Talking about just coming home and ship I'm just saying
in general, like if I'm meet a girl in an
adult industry and they on that type of time, I'll
be like, it makes me just look at them, like,
you know, you've ever seen a rapper and been like
this motherfuckers? Like you listen to a pis song, like is
really on that?

Speaker 1 (16:58):
But again.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
It makes the music sound better.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
So when I see a porn star on online or whatever,
and then I know in real life she's really on that, I'm.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Like, I feel you. But my life requires so much
social How do I explain? We have so many events
in the industry that after the events, we have after parties,
and our after parties get wild, they get what you
would imagine.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
So consider that.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
So that's part of where worked for me.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
So when I have my regular life, I don't necessarily
have orgies all the time. They do happen, but for me,
that's a regular fucking Tuesday to me, you know. Okay,
story time, So Tuesday night. One time I was fairly
new in the industry.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
I was out in l A and I remember it
was Tuesday night.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Because I we we had it.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
We laughed about it afterwards about like, wow, this was really.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Tuesday, Sunday, Sunday, Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, so dude invites me over. He does all these
like tied up bondage type stuff, and he has this
spiderweb looking thing on his wall, and he rigs me
and his girl to the wall tied up in the
spider web, and another male performer, he's actually well known

(18:22):
out here in New York, comes by because he was
in l A at the time, and he swung from
a rope fucking both me and this other girl. And
I'm fingering her through the side here because oh my gosh,
he's sticking his dick in my mouth here while he's
eating her out here, and I'm playing with her asshole there,
and like she gets wild. But to me, that's a
normal Tuesday. So when I say upstained, that's like fucking

(18:45):
normal to me. I mean, we're talking till the sun
comes my next podcast. I'm still tired.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
You're talking about horn stars, what about.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Like regular people?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
So I have to be careful about that because I
have to go through testing. I go and get tested
at minimum every fourteen days. But if I am shooting
a lot in a week, I'm going and getting tested
multiple times. And if I, let's say, fuck somebody who
is not in the industry not tested. My test is invalid.
And I take what I do very seriously. There are

(19:22):
people that I work with have families, kids, wives, husbands,
whole lives outside of this. I would never want to
affect someone, even for a day.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah. So, and sometimes it doesn't show up right away,
so you can do something, get tested, but then you
got to get tested again and again, and.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
To call everybody like that and be like, hey, so
I popped forward or whatever. That's that's a really hard conversation.
And if you have a thirteen person list.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, that's crazy. I hated doing that during COVID when
I got COVID and had to call everyone. No, when
I got COVID, listen, when I got COVID, I actually
was hosting a party in Baltimore and I did I
was feeling like a little not well on the way there,
but I did know I have COVID. Yeah listen, Kevin Lyles,

(20:12):
Brent Faya's like they all came out. And so afterward
I found out I tested positive like a couple of
days later, and I had to call it and it's
the worst feeling. And that was just COVID right right, Yeah,
you know, And that was just because we were at
the same place, and I was like, I'm so sorry,
Like Brent Fayas hit me back and was like, how
the fuck could you do something like this? And then
he was like, I'm just kidding. I'm fine, not awful.

(20:37):
Then it was like, I'm just kidding, it's fine, I'm okay, Okay,
I get that, but but you know, to your point
that's even more serious. Well COVID was serious too as
a time. But you know, you have to be responsible, yes.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Absolutely, And I mean it's just like when people have
these expectations of porn stars. Yeah, we get routy, Yeah,
shit gets wild, but also we can't show up to
set wreaking of alcohol.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
We can't show up to set drunk or high. You
don't even drink at all?

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Actually I don't.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah I will.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'll have a glass of red occasionally.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
But that's.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
How many point do you think I escorts?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Probably a lot of them, probably, yeah, I would say.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
So, you know, I'm want to ask you this. She
talks about getting tested all the time. Millie, I told
you this when you were on the way up, This
going raw stuff. When you're with somebody, I know, I'm
wondering do you Are you ever like let's get tested
or have you Do you ever ask those questions? No

(21:46):
one's ever asked me.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
I mean like, let's go to the clinic right now,
you mean.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, now, have you ever because people say you should
do that beforehand, honestly clinic? Yeah? My chart to what's
in my chart?

Speaker 3 (22:02):
My chart history?

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Okay, okay, yeah, do you ask though?

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I mean yeah, but I'm not just fucking everybody wrong.
So it's like, I know, I know a very specific thing.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
So has the girl ever gotten mad when you pull
out a condom?

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yeah? They do like fifty percent of the time for real.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
What that sounds crazy to me? That's a red flag. Yeah,
that's or.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Like it might not be off the immediate, but a
lot of the times. But I got a thing, I
got a radar that I'm people trying to trap me
with a baby, you know what I mean. But a
lot of times it'll be the condom and ship and
then it just it might be like something like her
saying I want to feel.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
It or you know what I mean, Right, I'm allergic to.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah, I'm allergic to late texts they're going like the
girls came out allergic to late country.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
How many times have women told you like, I am pregnant.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Oh, I'm pregnant.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Not a lot, just a few times, just a few
a couple. That's wow, it was your word. He's counting.
Are you good at something out?

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, but I'm not fucking everybody like you know. At
one point we had you.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Had a kindom deal.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, actually, so I'm on that which brand?

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Oh nice?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, listen, save sex and.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
If a girl, if a girl pussy is good enough,
the condom sex is still hit.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Now, Carmela, when's the last time you've been in a
serious relationship?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Just over three years ago? Okay, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
That was a kind of after the pandemic was over
and everything. Yeah, why didn't He's a terrible human being? Okay, well, yep, unhealed,
inner child, abusive. Oh I'm sorry to hear that. It's okay, okay, Yeah.
How do you meet people?

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Oh, that's so hard nowadays because I have this sixth
sense of when people are trying to use me for clout.
Now that I've experienced some of the things I've experienced
while in the industry, I've definitely experienced people trying to
date me for clout. I've experienced people trying to use
me for money, use me for my body obviously, so

(24:35):
it gets a little harder. You have to know somebody
in my inner circle. I keep my inner circle incredibly
small for that reason. They are a natural filteration system
for me, and they're very protective of me, and I'm very.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Protective of them.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
So the only people that are allowed to kind of
break through that are people that they know personally are
not there for nefarious reasons.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Right, So, Millie's how when it comes to you and
I know we talked about this, but like dating and
stuff like that, how do you know people aren't wanting
to be with you for the wrong reasons?

Speaker 4 (25:13):
I mean, you could just kind of tell if a
girl is like a cloud chaser, if she's on some
quiet shit.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
What do you mean on some quiet shit?

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Like just like she's like lo, she's calm.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
You know, there's cloud chasers, Like you could tell from
how when they come around. Sometimes we go out with
a lot of girls. I could just tell from the
way that like a girl films certain things, does things,
aren't her close friends whatever? It is like that automatically
rings the bell in my mind, like you got shit
going on?

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Have you ever been disappointed, Like, damn, I thought she
could have been potentially like wifey material.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yeah not really, I'm not gonna lie. I come in
off the rip of feeling a little jaded and ship
like that. I'm already thinking like, that's not a possibility.
You got you know how people could start at it?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
You start at no?

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yeah, they start at no, you got worry. Yeah, everybody
starts at a zero. But when I was young, everybody
was started at like a ten, and then.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah that happens. Yeah, I don't start people at a zero,
like I start people.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Making people out of one.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Three, I probably started like a five.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Three is generous too.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
I started five, and you have a potential to go
down or down exactly the same. I've started a five.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
That's a better I'm like, yeah, like if we need it,
like the gym, or like if we mean like.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
On a beach or like moving around type ship, I
might judge like a little higher. But like, if I
meet you in a place where I know people are
usually moving in a certain way, That's where I'll start
you at the zero for sure.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
What if a girl like comes by the studio with
one of her friends or something like that, do you
automatically think like, Okay, why.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
How many other studios she's went to?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
See? She could have been there with her girl, you know?
Or how do you feel about somebody who's a fan? First? Like, no,
I would think you would appreciate somebody that's like I love.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
It depend what.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Type of fan, right, yeah, it depends what type of
fan for real, But for the most part, like, I
don't like if it's like a real fan, I don't.
I don't really like that because I feel like that's
taking advantage kind of you know what I.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Mean, living at her fantasy. See. But that's the issue.
You can't date a fan, No I try. I went
on one date with a fan and you did. Did
you document traumatized? Did you document it? Hi? I am traumatized.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I have never had someone quote me back to me
from a podcast.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
What do you mean your favorite color is is peach?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I thought it was red on this podcast here, but
you said you weren't a fan and you said you
wanted to get knowing me, Like what what do you
Maybe it changed? Maybe they're both my favorite color. Maybe
fucking red is today and tomorrow it's fucking orange. I
don't Why does that matter like you, I don't know.
And then he brought up the he literally had it

(28:32):
saved on his He had like a tax show with
the YouTube yes of my interview of several interviews I'd done.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
That's creepy. That was the end of that day. That
was the end of that day. But you knew he
was a fan before you went out with him or
he sold.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I kind of had a feeling he was like, no, no,
I really want to get to know the real you.
I'm just like mmm. But we had good conversation, and
I am a sapeio sexual demiseexual, Like I can have
sex without the intimacy or the connection mentally, but for
me for it to be satisfying, for it to be
orcasmically moving, I need that connection right, that mental like

(29:10):
stimulation at least it doesn't need to be a romantic connection.
It needs to be stimulation. If when I talk to you,
my brain just does that white noise thing.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Right, I'm not turned on. No, I'm not turned on.
It's much. It's just because people don't think that women
can have sex and not have those like people always
feel like women are the ones. No men too. Yeah,
what do you think about that? Millies, Like as you're
getting you know, older, and I know listen R and P.

(29:40):
This album makes me feel like you are ready to
like find the one. I don't know if that's true
or not, but I feel that, like I feel like
you want to be in something that is like long
lasting marriage. Perhaps I don't know, but that's what it
feels like to me. And so what do you think

(30:01):
about like as you get older? Because I know sometimes
when you're younger it doesn't matter as much. But what
is it like now? Because even earlier we talked about
you like having situations where you didn't really you were
like why am I here? Why am I doing this?
But as you get older, you don't want to do
that anymore, you know. So yeah, for sure, what type
of space are you in now?

Speaker 4 (30:20):
I'm definitely in that like cutting down space. I don't
be wanting too much. Like I really got on some
energy shit at a certain point, knowing that like are
you fucking this girl? And she had horrible energy and
demonic soul kind of it's like you're just intertwining your

(30:41):
energy with this person, and when you leave out of that,
you're still taking some of her energy with you, you know,
so I definitely have been cutting down on the amount
of casual sex for real and just trying to be more.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
You should be celibate for a little while. Yeah, doing it,
you're still a bit outside of work.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
So I said, ergo my statement of not doing it
so much outside of work.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah, you know, because I don't want to a lot
of energies to you for real.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
But what was the question though?

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh no, I was asking. It feels like you want
to be in something like I don't know, just the
Rhythm and Pain album. It feels like a lot of reflection.
It's very personal. It feels like you've been through a
lot and now you're like ready, are you ready for marriage? No,

(31:36):
a partner for a marriage, But they're like a real
relationship because you also do hold yourself accountable somewhat like
in some ways you'll say, well, i'm you know, I know,
I'm yeah, Well.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I know my purpose is first first and foremo, so
I'm there. I knew my purpose before it was purposing,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
I knew my purpose before it was benefiting me in
any financial way or I was being validated it for
it in public. So I'm gonna always keep my purpose
before whoever. But I believe that that's how you give
somebody your Also, it got to be somebody who fully
understands that, Like, I'm gonna chase this shit over you

(32:16):
one hundred k trillion times, but me being able to
do that if I go out and if I go
out and give this ninety percent of my time, the
ten percent of my time that I spend with you
will be way more fulfilling and real and honest, because
I'm gonna end up resenting you if I'm giving you
ninety percent of my time and my purpose ten percent

(32:36):
of my time.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Shit like that.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
So that's the only contingency when it comes to this
relationship thing.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
That's the biggest problem I run into now. My life
has become more and more excessively busy, and I love
what I do so much that I'm not slowing down.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I won't.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I have a goal in mind, and I want to
get it.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
What's the goal?

Speaker 3 (32:54):
So many goals.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
There's so many fucking goals, bro, there's so many different checkpoints.
I want to be on top of it. I want to
be on the cover of Playboy. I want to be
the next Kazumi.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Essentially has been on the cover play also thank you.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Dating has to become secondary, even tertiary to you know,
my life, in my life, and most people can't understand that.
They don't you know, I'm not in town all the time.
I can't always take your call. I can't be available
whenever you want to go on a date, because I
might have things to do. I might be on a tour,
I might have a press conference, I might have publicity shoot,

(33:38):
I might have a photo shoot. I might get called
to go to l A tomorrow and pick up and go.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
That's just how it's hard for guys to deal with that.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yes, especially when to pick up and go means I'm
going to go fuck somebody else.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Let's just be honest about it. I'm getting fluid out,
I'm getting paid. It is better, I'm enjoying it, and
you might see it later and you're going to see
it yea, and so well everybody, Yeah, yep, it takes
a very because you know.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
That handle what.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Considering And he's like, no, yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Not a consideration, but but yeah start homegirls.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
The coolest ship some of the coolest people.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Because they're honest, honestly, because you.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Feel like when you like just thugging, like, no, have
you ever dated one?

Speaker 4 (34:32):
No, it's just been like like a queen, like tied
in you.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
I can't with him, He's like just tied in? What
does that even mean?

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Never just been locked in with somebody? Have you ever
had well, you, I got you. Gotta start with you
last Sunday and Tuesdays.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Start with you last gg Have you ever had somebody
that you just you locked in with? Just you and
them and y'all the only people that know. I know
girls always tell like a homegirl, So I'll permit one homegirl, But.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
You ever locked in with somebody only me and you
know about this?

Speaker 1 (35:17):
It's a secret society or we trust.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yes to me?

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Like that's the ultimate flyer ship and it's one of
the headst bonds. I never go tell my homies. I
always expect maybe they tell like one girl like you
know that close confident.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
On, but keep this ship. It's that's a different type
of bond that's being tied in.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Okay, Yeah, I gotta understand the definition of tight end A.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Sneak that's actually keeping it solid. Yeah, but more than
a sneaky like a sneaky link. You're gonna tell ZUTHI
for five people permitted five sneak for the sneak, I

(36:01):
don't know, you might just it might just come up
and come. They're gonna know, Like if you keep sneaking around,
you know, I got entourage around me.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
And like a.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Perceptive I'm talking about you're really linking with somebody.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Have you ever had to like sneak someone out, like
you know, cause your guys were around and you have
to be like, oh, I don't want nobody to see.
Have you ever lied and said you didn't have sex
with somebody? Who did have sex.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
With to who?

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I don't know, anybody in general? Yeah, in general, like
I know you ain't hit that and you were like no, no,
damn what you did. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
No, but I'll deny for to protect them though, Like
I believe in that shit. I believe in really keeping
it peeing, really not exposing. I feel like women get
talked on too much anyways, Like I feel like it's
an epidemic where dudes running go tell you I fucked
her and her and it's all this status ship. And
to me, like that was the spiritual moment between us.
We don't gotta go broadcast, you know, we don't got

(37:06):
to broadcast that. So I pride myself won't be on
one of the guys that's not gonna.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah, I did this and that. Now it's just between us,
like I'm gonna die and there's gonna.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Be girls to be like he kept the fucking solid Like, oh.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
How many girls in it right now?

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Like okay, that's also trauma.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
It's also traumatizing them because it'd be girls with a
high level man ship like that. But you lock in
with them, but I don't. I don't. I don't fault them.
These like people that I gotta be real tied in with,
but I protect their secrets.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Have you ever like one of your friends girls on.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
That No, it's too many. It's full girls to everyone
dude in the world or some ship. That's how it feels.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Is that true? That's how it feels.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
One.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
I'm trying to tell you here, it's way to girls
in this room.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
It's way too many girls to.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Leach off, you know what I mean, your friends and
and trying to be clipping your friends girls. That's too easy,
like you know, go out the box. That's like when
it's a different type of conversation. But that's like when
guys want to fight their male friends and ship, it's like, no,
go take that aggressing out on somebody that you know
probably was dissing on us or something like people get familiar,

(38:26):
you know, they get too familiar.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
And if his girls tried to like holler at you
or would you like being too flirty with you?

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Yeah, yeah, definitely because it gets and it's like there's
like lines to it, but certain should just be so
out of pocket that it's like you need.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
To know this because I know it's not just happening
with me.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Yeah, you know, and I don't want you to you know.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
You know when that girl says, I don't usually no, I'll.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Be knowing who's going. I know, I'm knowing who's.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Going, Like you know who's going.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
I knowing who's going.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
And I'm understanding the levels too. Like there's a lot
of girls, even in this day and age, who's keeping
it real p like really shutting the funk up about
ship and you would never know who she's clipping Like
it's a real secret society.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Trust ain't telling ship. Let me tell you that right now,
because she might tell us a little something something behind
the scenes. But you know, I'm not saying nothing.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
That's the that's the flyers thought. That's like a dope
trait in a woman. It's like kind of immature when
it's the the other way. But I understand girls are
going to get on the phone and talk with their
friends and shiitespecially.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
You think you could be with one woman forever, Yeah,
you think you could be. What if you dated a
guy you loved him, he was perfect, but he was like,
I want you to stop doing what you do and
I'll take care of you.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
No, I built this from my but I when I started,
I started, I came out to Vegas to go literally
couch surf and work my way, like work for my
keep with twenty seven dollars in my name in thirty
thirty two seven dollars. Yeah, I looked up my bank
account and was like, damn, I can't even afford the

(40:22):
uber in their house.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
You don't even have cash. It was in your bank.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Acainn that's all I had, and that that's that's all
I had to my name, and I couldn't even afford
the uber to get to their house. The uber was
like fifty something. They were in summer land, and it's
a little bit further. So I went to the bathroom
and I made a solo, and I hit up one
of my fans, on my only fans, and he bought
the solo right then and there sent me a little
fifty and that got me over there. That's how I

(40:47):
got there. Okay, I used my last tig.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
You had your body done.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
I had my body done, but only more recently that I.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Saw to get your body done.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, five years being in the industry. So I've been
in the history for seven years, sir.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
When you did the body though, that didn't wait to
twenty seven dollars.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
No, all right now, I'm just not No, it's not
your tequila. Trying to figure out this really strong though.
Every day of the week was this.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Right, if you go to the I don't confusing, you
might be confusing.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
It's okay, between Tuesday and Sunday is Monday.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
But okay, so since he asked about that, like getting
work done, so before that, you always were an attractive woman, though,
so I mean thank you. I don't. I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
I didn't grow up conventionally pretty. I was the fat
girl in school. I was the fat, nerdy girl who
did yearbook and like I would proofread your essays for
you and like you forgot the homework because I was
getting asked be at home if I didn't turn it in.
So I was the nerdy kid that didn't go out
and I was a wallflower. Nobody ever looked my way.
When I was in high school, Paris Hilton was hot,

(41:59):
so girls with nerves, titties, ass hips.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
I was.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Hot girl's friend. Okay, maybe if I was lucky so
that that wasn't really in my mind of oh yeah,
I'm pretty.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
No, I on're your friends in high school thing? Now?
When they like, do you know any of them?

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I keep in touch with a few of them. Actually,
a lot of them are really proud of me. Some
of them started talking shit, and I think it's because
they're miserable with their own.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Life, miserable with their own shit.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
But the ones that I do keep in touch with,
they they are very proud of me. I made it out.
I made it out.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
Yeah, no, and have And even like the porn life,
it'd be a lot of girls is doing it for
free and they getting recorded and ship and they get no.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Bag for it.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
That's a fact.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
They'll try to act high and mighty, but it's.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Like you're doing it anyway.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Baby.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
You got thirty nine videos out there phones, not even
if they circulate in the streets, but just shit, you
got thirty non videos out.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
There making no money people, and you.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Got the nerve, you got the gall to look down
on somebody. You know.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yes, what was your first big check?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Ooh. I wouldn't even say it was like a big
check per se. I just it was the first time
that I, like, I seen three zeros on a check
before that wasn't in front.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Of the you know.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
And I went and I got myself a phone so
I could shoot better content.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Wow. I chase that Muney investment and into the business.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
I literally I was here in New York and I
went to Grand Central Station and went to the Apple
Store and bought a phone just so I can record
better stuff, better content and reinvest Wow.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
You know, because some people will say that it's a
hard business right now because there's so much free content
out there. So for somebody, let's say they are getting started,
like Millie said, Let's say the young lady who's got
thirty nine videos circulating, but she's not making no money
off of it. What advice would you give her.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Stop making shit for free, but also make your platforms there.
I have ten different platforms going at all times. Two
of them are Tube sites, So all that free ship
you're watching, keep watching it, Thank you, thank you. I
get paid off with the views, so that's important to me.
Other platforms. All of my exclusive content, anything that isn't

(44:18):
on the Tube site, that gets released to those paid
platforms first. And that's how you diversify your portfolio. You
have different platforms, they're all making money. So if one
goes down because the only fans owner died or whatever
he did, yes he did it, maybe rest in peace.
That man changed my life. You know, I still have

(44:39):
other platforms that can fall back on. Not to mention,
I have a catalog of films that I can go
ahead and then post on any other future sites that
come out. I can make DVDs with it.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
You good license the films.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yes, that's I can make my own DVDs. And I
know when you hear DVDs are like, who's buying DVDs?
They buy them at conventions.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
But also I was gonna say, yeah, I feel like
everything is streaming.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yes, but when I say DVDs, it also includes streaming.
That DVD is a catalog of five scenes, and so
if you click this link, you will get these five
scenes and these are the pictures from them, and these
are the people that are in them. So people are
doing that now so more than ever. And I think
a great example that you see in mainstream is what
Justin Bieber just did at Coachella.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Right live on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
He sold his catalog and then decided to play it
on YouTube so that way he could sing along with it,
and it was if you watched it, I felt like
it was a very meta artistic way of healing his
inner child. But to a business point, he found a way,
a loophole that worked for him that still gave him
one of the most lucrative deals that Coachella has ever seen.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, he made the most out of if any artist
has ever performed at Coachella without a management, without team,
did it on his own, on his own, entirely, one
hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah, You've got to admire that we live in a
day and age where we can do that. Now, you
as an artist must really appreciate that as well.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, being an independent artist at that we had a
whole conversation about that.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Yeah, ownership.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
What's something that you would like to be better at
when it comes to being in the bedroom that perhaps
Carmela can help you with, Like just in this conversation,
what's that you feel like just just some tips, just
the tip, never just the tip all deep. What's something
that you're like, I need to work on this. Every

(46:28):
guy has some things they need to be like.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Okay, making noises, communicating, talking.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Do you talk?

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Probably eating pussy. I'm like, kind of just making something.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
What what do you need do you get?

Speaker 5 (46:54):
Really?

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Is it because you don't like it or you just
you're not confident in your skills.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
I gotta be locked in, like on the person.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
So she has to be a special lady.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
But if you're gonna do what you gotta do it.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah, hell yeah. If I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna
dive in for sure. But you know, it's not it's.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Not it's not my goal to Okay, it should be.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
I gotta with a girl like ten times.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Times. You look, I'm sorry. If I might hook up
with someone nine times and they don't eat the kiddy,
you're not gonna get to nine, get to three times?

Speaker 3 (47:37):
You can say what you want, Well, reality is a
different thing. Hear what you're saying, But.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Give you some tips because I would love this, Like
g I know you can't to enjoy it, but give
let's let's talk to Millie's and you know what, there's
a lot of guys out there who make it's.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Just what it is. I got it like doing that,
I got it. Gotta be my girl like.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Ian when you are, of course he does. So when
you are doing it with your girl, you still feel
that you aren't really giving it.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
You're all, but.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
You still feel a little less confident in just your
skills in general.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Be a little rusty and ship do you make eye contact?

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Okay? So tim, lady, starting with the pro.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Every woman is different, and I find that if you should,
if you produce their mind first, you have good banter
back and forth, it's a little bit easier. And I
wouldn't just go dive right in and like go for
the clip or go for the start fingering. You definitely
want to warm her up, stroke her, breathe on her,
maybe spit or lack around, kiss the area.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
You want to.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
You want to get the anticipation exactly, big eye contact
with her, build that anticipation and then when you are
in the middle of said having fun. Most women are
either this way or this way or a combination. My
go to that I personally love is lips around the clip,

(49:12):
sucking and then like kind of flicking at the same time.
Most women like that tend tend to and if it
gets to be too much on the clip, which happens overwhelming,
does happen? Switch underneath the clip there's a little horogenous
zone that most people don't know about that feels just
as good without overpowering. And then as far as insertion, uh,

(49:34):
this is this is bullshit. It that's not it.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I we all is bullshit. This is Vegas.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
This is in the in Vegas with a mop might
as well be fingering sandpaper.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Oh I gotta go in like this.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Make sure your nails and your hands are clean.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Thank you, nothing more.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
I don't want to take the city and go wash
my hands. I don't want to put the city on
you period.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Okay, what about you, g don't be scared of pussy.
You know I've had to tell a guy before, like
apply more pressure, like like really kiss it with your
whole mouth, Like, don't just like the tip of your
tongue and like kind of timid and stead like go
in like really just you know, use your whole face,
put your whole face in it, use them lips, use

(50:31):
that tongue, you know, and people men will people because
you know, girls whatever. People don't realize that even though
the glitteris is this little button, there's so many nerves.
That's like a wishbone that goes like here or down
the labia right, So you have to like, like you said,

(50:53):
lick it, stroke it, like really, you can hit those
nerves if you touch in the right spots without even
going straight to the clip.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Oh and please, this is bullshit.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
That is bullshit. That hurt me. That is what you want.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Har okay, this is the clip. This rubbing it like
that is bullshit. That is bullshit. Like the palm of
your hand. Put your palm of your hand on her
clip softly, that's like scissoring.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Oh okay, that's like are you taking notes? He's getting
what's your advice? Jordan?

Speaker 5 (51:41):
So times too for me sometimes less, it's more I
feel like a lot of dudes love the theatrics and
want me to sit on their face so bad, which is,
you know, great whatever, but to me, they feel like shape.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
I want to be down to that point.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Gentlemen, women do not like sixty nine. Stop telling us
we're out sport.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
We don't like it fun with girls, but it's fun
with girls. That's different. I said, guys, you're right, you're right,
you're right. Yeah, that's not it's like too much going on.
Here's too much. I'm trying to do something. You're trying
to do something. I can't really enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
And either I'm on top of you and you're suffocating
with my ass, or you're on top of me and
I am dying with that.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Guys, do you like millies? Do you like sixty nine?

Speaker 3 (52:29):
I feel like sixty real drunk shit, it's not is
like shit is going on and just.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
But it's not like the best. It's not something that
you're like. No, No, I've never heard anybody say that's
my favorite thing. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Never Yeah, suffocated, Yeah, rhythm something honest.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
The only time that I like like doing that something
similar is if I'm in a threesome situation and the
girls getting sucked all underneath and eating her out and
lick his balls and like suck his dick all at
the same time.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Yeah, like that's good. So I'm trying to visual.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Imagine she's a doggie and so she's on hands and knees.
I'll crawl underneath her and get it and suck his
dick and lick his balls, or if he likes his ass, eight,
I'll go behind and do that and stick from behind.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
And have you ever had a bad experience with eating
ass like somebody did not properly?

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Not on set, not in the real life.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Though, I need to come like not talk about Tuesday

(53:51):
all right, now listen, I have this whole thing that
we've been doing is Tuesday. Tuesday. Oh my god. Anybody
want to go get tied up? Oh? Okay, So now
listen to this story, and I want to get your
thoughts on this. When you're slightly obsessed with him and
wear his sperms, so there's a new trend where sperm.

(54:19):
So now people are doing things like putting his sperm
inside of like a necklace and wearing it and things
like that because you're obsessed and this is a new
trend that people are doing. So I want to ask you, guys,
have you ever felt like somebody was completely obsessed with
you and it was to the point that it was strange.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
There have been fans, but no one I've known personally
in my personal life as a fan, Like, what is
the craziest thing a fan has done?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Stalk me? Okay, that's crazy, that's pretty intense.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Asked me for some really crazy things, like for my
hair and my earwax. I don't know what they were
planning on airwax. Bro I get asked for the craziest things,
and I'm just like, ear wax is crazy. Yes, I've
been asked for fort jars when that was remember that,
I didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
It's just not for me. What was that woman? What
was she was she from? Was it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (55:18):
All I know is I opened my d MS one
day and somebody said, will you send me your fort jar?

Speaker 1 (55:21):
I was like, did you do it? No? Because it
listened depending on the price.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
I mean, if it was going to be that kind
of a price, right, But it wasn't worth it.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
That jar was too Have you ever felt like somebody
was obsessed with you to the point that it was strange?

Speaker 3 (55:39):
No, just like in the d M s and ship
like that.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
What's the craziest DM?

Speaker 3 (55:43):
I don't know. You just see somebody that's been d
ming you for like four years.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Yeah, that'd be the craziest because what are you going
to stop talking to yourself? I don't care.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Yeah, And I had girls lying on me, O, d
lie on you what just like we was fucking.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Oh shit crazy parties when they talked to them selves
and then they get mad that they're talking to themselves.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
And then they go for mad to like back apologizeing,
yeah mad again.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
I'm like, that is why I don't answer these.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
So you've had girls reverse lie and say they fucked
you when they didn't, did they? They say that you
were good.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Maybe it was a personator.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
I got a.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Mascots say you might fuck the mask. We're detective lazy.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
You might have fuck the mascot. Yeah, bewhere, shut out there.
People are. People will shout out.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Yes they are. I feel like it's getting crazier. It is.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
People are losing their minds too.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
You know, after the age of like twenty six, that's
when you could lose your mind, like right around like
twenty four five twenty six, Like that's the threshold of
if you're going to go insane or not.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Really.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, wow, are you referring to like the twenty seven club,
like some of the people who have.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
Like no, I mean like just scientificuickly, if you're gonna
if you're a bipolar, you're guy. If you're a little crazy,
that shit is going to show more to like twenty three, four,
twenty five, twenty six wonderful. That's when you start snapping,
and so you'll know somebody and then realize that, like,
you know, whatever it is twenty seven This persons gone

(57:19):
like mentally, you know, And that's a sad thing, but
that's a real reality. I know a lot of people
that actually went crazy scientifically, right, Yeah, and then you
add the.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Drugs to this shit. Man, people frying their brain early.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
With I've definitely seen people who have done drugs and
never been the same after.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Yeah, I've seen that too.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Is that why you don't drink or do anything? No.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
I just really hate hangovers and I have to work
every day, so that's right.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
I don't have time to over.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
This won't give you a hangover.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
I can't take the rest of you still, like.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Not bloating, not taking the rest, not having the calories respectfully, No,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
I feel that I'm still drinking, but I understand you
always have me there please, Yeah, you have one for me?

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Must still do my thing?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Yeah, I would. Now I agree with you. I understand
because I know drinking definitely will add them calories on
m indeed, So what you said you were celibate for
a period of time, let's go back to that.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Yeah, I've been celibating, like I'll go, like a month
of celibacy for sure.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Is that celibacy? Yeah? Yeah, that's not celibacy. That's a
break that you took a nap.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
So okay, I once went eight months without sex and
that was that was celibacy for me.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
And why did you do eight months dry spell?

Speaker 4 (58:42):
It was early if you got if you have options
as a man and you turn them options down for
thirty one days and it's like girls like, yo, I
want to time sir.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
You set yourself on the corner that the time out.
You set yourself you want out.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
But it's like crack, just discipline.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
A lot of dudes that a lot of dudes that
jump out their fucking body to be with some of
these girls. And it's like to be able to curve
and lock in with God.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
And just be.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Did you master be during that time?

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Probably?

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Count Oh, that's not that's break celibacy break celibacy.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
I mean it depends on your definition, because some people
would think that's like.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Definite, and it might have been more than a month
for so.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
How did that feel for you during that time?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
But feel good?

Speaker 4 (59:40):
Just like locking in man Nipsey Hustle got something that
you say, it was like sometimes you just got to
go get ugly on these holes.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
And and run it up. And I feel like, yeah,
that's how you know.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
You got to just lock in sometimes and lock out
them distractions. And it's it's only harder when you're at
the level where you're like, damn this girl, Like a
month ago, I would have jumped on my body for her.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Now it's you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
That's nice, So I guess it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
But it's like discipline, and I learned that like the
strong way. I learned like no matter what, I don't
care if it's the girl of my dreams, I'm not
stopping what I'm doing for that. I'm not going out
my way girl of my dreams.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Like physically.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
You should go out your way for.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Sure, But physical beauty just has started started to get
like redundant because every girl is pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
What's the girl of your dreams. Like if you had
to say, who is the girl of your dreams, just
describe what that looks like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Wow, Okay, I.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Don't know because I really people say like I don't
have like I don't got a type.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Or like that even excuse.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Me I having this type.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
But I really feel like I like all in every
type of women, Like there's fire, white girls, black girls, Spanish, Asian.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Every everything.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
But I mean, just besides it's physical.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Yeah, besides the physical, you just gotta be an amazing personality, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
That's what anything?

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
What if her personality is amazing, but her looks isn't
all that? Can you do that? Yeah? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Yeah, how amazing is the personality?

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
Like you get personality and amazing enough where you can
walk me to you know, into this bag, Like for sure,
that's part of a personality trade. You ain't know some
shit I don't send me in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
It's teed up for sure, and I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Like you know the problem is sometimes a lot of
guys want tens, but fives to sevens are like usually
better m as far as their personalities and ship. They've
had to really work on their personalities through life and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Said work the personalities through life, true.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Though they don't have.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
And then when you find that, then you and then
you find that beauty in them, and then it's like, damn,
you are really attend because.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Your physical you're cute.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
All you gotta be cute.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
I see, fat girls is cute, like genuinely like you
are cute, fat joint like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Yeah, yeah, okay, So so physical is not as important
to me now as just walking you to the bag
and being like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Now you ain't gonna walk in the bag.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
I'm just saying, you got, person, if you got I'm
a teachable person, and I prod myself.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
On being able to learn until if I make it
to be an old man, you will. I want to be.
I don't give a fuck if I do, I ain't
gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
But if I make it to being an old man,
I want to be able to still be learning when
I'm like eighty five and eighty six, I think that's
the coolest shit ever. Like you be on your deathbed
and you still learn, and shit, that's fly. You gotta
take in all the knowledge that you could.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
It's literally people who's eighty five and eighty six and
still outside working and doing their things, which is amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Say it helps with longevity, life longevity. What does keeping active,
whether it be mental or physical, just keeping your brain active.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Yeah, and moving around and doing things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Because when you don't, you bringing a muscle, it'll atrophy
if you don't use it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Yeah, yeah, no, I listen. I look at some of
these people who are still I'll be like, I'm looking
forward to that time in my life when I could
be like old and rich, Like I'm excited for that
where I don't have to sound peaceful. Yeah, that was peaceful.
When you think about like that time in your life
and even retirement, what does that look like for you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
It looks like traveling the world fucking on every balcony
that I find.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
That's right, that's I'm sorry, that's exactly what I was.
Calm down, period, You're already still my passport girl, I'm
on my second right there. Millions. Have you ever had
an orgy?

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Okay? Did you love it or is it overrated?

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
I loved it? Was it random women women?

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Yeah, that's our first gang bang? But was it playing?
You got reverse gang? Was? That's what it is?

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
When all girls and one guy is a reverse gang bang? Yeah,
I love you had a reverse gang bang.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Yeah, that's that's what's up. Could you keep up?

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Yeah? Hell yeah? I was blasted.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
So it was a random situation that just happened or
was it playing out? How does that even happen?

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Well, sometimes a girl a flake on you, right, So
if this one girl asked for the address, I might
drop the address to another girl, and then if another
girl asked for the address, somebody dropped the address, and
then I dropped the address to all of them, and
then so blasted. I just don't care, Like everybody get
there and everybody shows up and ship. Some of y'all

(01:05:14):
gonna leave, some of y'all gonna stay. I'm chilling regardless.
I don't care if we fucking not. I'm gonna watch TV.
I'm gonna chill them having fun, you know, and sometimes
it goes the right way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Have you ever had a situation where a girl got
mad at you and you felt like she might like
make up a story, because that happens to people be
nervous about things like that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
I don't know, like really that that doesn't doesn't really
enter my anim matrix.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Like that, you know, that's why people do like.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
I want that though I want the NDA app, Like
I'm sure they gotta have an NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
If you could doc you signed some ship for a million.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
Dollars, right, How don't got an n d A app
that I could be like, son, we coming with the
NDA app. Matter of fact, if there's not an n
d A app, let's not even put this segment out
because we'll take phones sometimes, like take phones and ship,

(01:06:22):
but that's still not it's more sturdy than an n
d A.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Let me ask, GBT.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Don't know if they're an nd A app. I just
got to ask.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
It probably is that actually.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
If not, you know, then it looks like, oh yeah
celebrity nd A. There not an NDA for a job
before same like a job that you wouldn't think that
like need nd A to do this. But yeah, well listen,
I know y'all got things to do. You have an appearance, Millis.

(01:06:55):
Are you going anywhere tonight? Yeah, everybody's got to do.
But I want to thank you both are coming through.
I want to thank you for being it's just so
transparent and talking about everything. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
I appreciate you for having me on here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Thank you ladies for joy appreciating you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
It was your top three favorite Pano girls besides you, I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Wouldn't put myself on the top either way.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
You wouldn't you better? I mean, like I've just I
like to keep a level headed Okay, new Girls because
he's got a.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Google, not New Girls. Sorry, no, I'm not going New Girls.
New Girls have a lot of other performance issues. I'm
going classic Adriana Checchik excuse me, Luna Star and you know,
just for some spice, let's throwing Bonnie Rotten.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Do you know them? I know Lunastar, I got you're
watching her little lesbian? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Check out my scenes with her.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
I've probably already seen. Do you prefer a lesbian or
scenes with men?

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
I am an equal opportunist slut. Okay, I like them
both equally. Some days I wake up and I'm a
little bit more lesbian. Some days I wake up and
I can't stop thinking about Dick. But for the most part,
it's could you have you dated a woman in real life?

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
No? No, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
All of my guy friends say don't because they have
their experiences. But I have my experiences with men, So
I feel like we're out of standstills.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
All right, well, Millie, is any last words from you
before we get out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
I don't know what I said on this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
You said that you're going to start loving how to
Equals so you can be good at it. Yeah, you
said you were going.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
To come back and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Don't you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Yeah way.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Yeah Jordan Jordan with oh cool, Okay, I know that's
girl with that rhythm. Pain I mean, but thank y'all
both for joining us. This was really a fun conversation.
I feel like we all learned a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Yeah, it's very sex educational and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
I'm proud of that. That's what it's all about. His
slip service. Thank you.