LS Episode 557: Akon vs. Spice (feat. Akon & Spice)

Akon and Spice join Angela Yee, Jordy, and Gigi Maguire on this episode of Lip Service, and the conversation quickly turns into one of the most passionate debates in the show's history. Akon opens up about his new album, personal growth, relationships, and why he believes men and women have different roles in society and dating.

Spice isn't letting anything slide, challenging Akon's views on cheating, submission, feminism, marriage, trust, and financial responsibility in relationships. The two go back and forth on whether women should pay bills, if monogamy is realistic, and what men and women truly want from each other.

Akon also discusses his thoughts on polygamy, his mission in Africa, lessons learned from past relationships, the importance of privacy, and even finds himself debating ChatGPT during the conversation.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up its lip service? And mana ye an oh
man three against one. I told you to becoming peace.
I love today.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Even before we started though, before you got here, we
were talking about how amazing your focus were you do
something at iHeart in the Mabeling studios. And then Spice
was like, I need to work with a Kon. I
know you have been talking about it.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
I got her covered, so whatever happens to they don't
hold that against her. Brought me here for some spir.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
But then she's gonna pick a topic now.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
A Kon.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I want to say that I feel like you're going
through it right now.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Why I don't know. Just be listening to you. You're
so good, like okay, so great, I promise you. It's
the best part of my life right now.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
What is the music?

Speaker 4 (01:06):
No, just life in general. I think this just now
is like my life is in cruise control.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh yeah, it wasn't in cruise control before.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
I mean, you know how it is like before? Just
constant grind, you know what I mean? I mean constant,
like literally constant, like no time to wait rests, just
kind of setting up the situation to where you don't
have to figure out if you got to be there
every day and manage this person that person, make sure
they doing it right while you're out of town. Now,
everything I don't think about it is just happening on

(01:35):
cruise control. That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
How are you feeling about life right now?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
You guys are both artists that have been in the
game for decades but still like going strong. I was
just telling Spice also, it's a great space to be
in to be like a legacy artist who's also still
putting out relevant.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Music right right, Yeah, I mean I'm at a place
where I'm celebrating me and my success and all the
seeds that I've planned. I mean, twenty seven years is
not easy to have started it so long and to
still be relevant. That's really what the key is. So
I feel like now I'm embracing, you know, whatever achieved.
If you notice, I'm always in blue today, I'm in
my platinum ra yeah, gone right. The days where you

(02:17):
work so hard to achieve something and then you achieve
it and it comes like it feels like nothing, But no,
I'm platinum, I know. Yeah, So I'm celebrating me. So
I'm unuppy and.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Really broken down doors and like about being a woman
being a Jamaican artist.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yes, just to see what you've accomplished is huge.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Absolutely. I mean recently, when I became the first hardcore
dance All artists to be Grammar nominated, that opened the
doors for other dance or female artists because gone red
the days where they made it seems like it was
just only reggae that we get through that door. So
becoming the first hardcore female dance all artists to be
Grammar nominated, that's what I'm living.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
For, just still to be the like, come on, think
about how many other female artists come and went like
you still bang it?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Absolutely, it's a lot of male artists last period. How
Instagram is matter to you when you think about being
don't matter?

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Met matter to me at all?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Like literally, Yeah, it's an interesting conversation because that is
a nice accomplishment to have, you know, under your belt.
And it doesn't matter, right, No, it doesn't okay me,
Like you've done enough.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah, Like the People's Choice awards those matter to me
because the people actually voted. But the Committee awards, I
don't really care because I know it's all politics that
things happen around me behind me for the agendas of
the labels that you're attached to, so that's sometimes has
nothing to do with you, Like you can be receiving
an award that you don't even deserve.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
You know, it's funny because you are the label, but
you're also an artist.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
That's how I know the back end.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Like the labels. Like me, it was like, I was
ne what is that?

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Like? Oh no, that's my dog man. Me and Neil
have a ball out there.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Do y'all ever doing group dates?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
With large group community dates?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
We go out for breaks, like you know, we'd be
on the road and then we'd be like, yo, so
what we're doing. We're going to movies, We're going bowling,
We're going golfing. Is that you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Right?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
No, it's funny because I saw New York say he
was missing out of opportunities because he's come out. It's like,
you know, has different girlfriends and he was tired of
hiding that and came out. But do you feel like
you've missed out on opportunities similarly just from being vocal
about your lifestyle.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
No, no, not at all.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
No, I don't I don't think missing something.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, oh bye, sorry.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
So I can be quite a conversation. You have three
three girls, I said, do you also have three girls?
Like Neil?

Speaker 1 (04:50):
No, no, oh, entertainment.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
It's entertainment.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
He knows.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
He goes viral it is, that's going.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
He's like, give her take.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, you know, you know, so what's going on?

Speaker 4 (05:26):
That's perfect. That's what I mean. That gives you the google.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, it's a topic of conversation
that always comes up. But you know what I want
to say, because this is what I was saying to
you earlier. With your music, it feels like there's something
you're going through, like relationship wise, like you might have
felt like you messed up somewhere.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
You're talking about from the new album. Yes, so the
new album, some of those pieces, there's a two or three,
maybe four songs that was based on what's currently happening
in my life?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Okay, which one?

Speaker 4 (05:54):
And then I can't tell you those you can be
No purpose of the songs is me knowing that there's
other people out there going through the same thing. So
I kind of try to make the music for the
masses that's dealing with it, but I kind of generalize
the topic, so it kind of flows that way, So.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
You don't want to tell us like what you're going through.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Well, now I'm not going through anything, but.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
I was like you were, like I miss you, Like you.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Know, we were got messed up. But oftentimes you like
you got to just take accountability.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Okay, that's coming from my mind. That's what I'm saying.
It's hard.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Well you knew what it was when you know, that's true.
But in the actuality, we know what we're getting into too,
you know what I mean, Like we know what gonna
cause friction, Like we know that we could ease up
on certain things sometimes. Oh yeah, for sure, our ego
would not allow us sometimes to backtrack to actually not

(06:59):
do it, not quite do it, but can like admit it.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
Is it just pertaining to cheating or what are you?

Speaker 3 (07:06):
What are those things?

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Doesn't exist in my vocabulary. That's probably the most controversial
thing in my beliefs. I just don't believe that the
word cheating matters in a relationship.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
I don't understand, Can you explain.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
I always believe that women have to understand the men
that they're with, Like men are built from a natural
perspective to be in what we are, Like this is
who we are, Like, I think women took the time
to understand men. You guys literally run in the world.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
We have time.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
We're listening elaborates.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
In a way. It's actually good though, because I think
sometimes women need to hear it. Now you may not agree,
which is okay. Yeah, right, So we all agree that
men are givers, right and women are receivers. Can we
agree with that? No? I don't.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, I think we reciprocate. I think it goes back
and forth.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Sometimes women are the givers, yeah, and sometimes in what
aspect and every way, Like we.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Give you guys, comfort, give you, Yeah, we nurture you,
take care of you. See you washing your own clothes,
and we will cook for you, nurture you, be your
your mental space, like we There's so many things that
we give to you, guys. And I think that's the
problem when it comes down to relationship, is that men
only see things from their perspective and their eyes and
their lens and through their vision. But there's so much

(08:33):
more to us as women. But you know, men like
you wouldn't date like probably a strong woman like me
that would look at you and tell you the truth
to your face.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Interesting for our respect, your respect your answer because I
actually agree with you. Only there's only two things that
I don't agree with is the first portion of what
women give. What you had explained to me was your
role role, But you was one hundred percent correct, because

(09:07):
I feel like a man has a role and a
woman has a role. So the only difference is you
confuse your role with something that you're giving. This is
something that you would naturally do as a woman for
someone that you love.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Why would you Why would you say it's our role
because I don't have to cook for you? What if
I can't cook, that wouldn't make you not love me.
My role is probably to cook. But what if I
can't cook and you're the chef, then you could also
cook for me, because that is even more sexier and
more romantic.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
But what if the man took that same position and said,
what if I don't have to protect you, I don't
have to serve you, I don't have to work, just
pay the rist for you? Says, but just hit me out.
The reason why there's a balance. The reason why there's
balance is because everyone serves a purpose, right or wrong. Yes,
So if a woman denies her purpose and don't feel
that she has a role to play. Then how the

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balance is off. It's like, we know we have a
role to play. We've accepted our role le We know
that we're protectors, we know that we're providers, and we
know that we're the king of the household. To make
sure that we manage the family to be able to
live in a comfortable environment. That's our role as men
right now when we leave to go hunt, or to

(10:19):
go work, or to go whatever we need to do
to keep our part of the bargain. The woman's role
is due to what be at the home. Manage the family,
manage the children and the offspring to make sure that
they're living and being in a position that they can
be able to grow and do the same thing whether
they're women or men, to play the role that they
need to play in society. Right But if men are
out there doing what they're doing and the women feel

(10:41):
like they shouldn't have to do that, then it creates
a dysfunctional family order in the household.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
But what does create also a dysfunction is when we
choose a man to be our king, he should also
be our peace, especially if he gives us a home
that should be our safe space.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
But when you go out there, we'll correct it before
you go say the whole who's responsibility do you think
that lies on the.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Man or the woman to take care of the home?

Speaker 4 (11:06):
You think that's the man's role of the woman's role.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
I think it's both.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
It's a little different. You own your house.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I remember you did a post about how this man
was trying to take your home from you.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
That was your house. Yes, you know what I'm saying.
That's so.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Different.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
I think six things hold on. Yeah, the reason like
twenty twenty six is a very confusing moment in time
because the roles again are mixed up, Like forget about
you being independent, me being whatever? Right, generally, think we
got to establish the roles right. We have to know

(11:44):
the purpose of a man and a purpose.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Of ro You said a woman should take a household.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Who do you think owns the responsibility of the home?
Is it the man?

Speaker 3 (11:53):
I think it's both.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
For the woman, it's both.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I think you're buried depending on your situation.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Regardless of any relationship.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
I can't say as women are sometimes breadwinners now because
we see that's happening.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
It doesn't only depend on who's like paying the bills
because they're different.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Bills.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
But you also have jumping because different things.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
The girls should never come out of a woman's mouth.
That's our role. We're the part. You shouldn't have to work, like,
why that's all that's our role.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
It sounds good and.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Tell ya that's that's what it is. Listen, hear me, listen.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
But we still have to work because I still have
to push an independent woman because if I don't like
a woman that they fully depend on man. Because if
you depend on him to eat, that means he can
start to me.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
You have a woman when she's in. When a woman's
in her woman she knows that her man's role is
to take care of her. She knows that she's not
going to starve, she knows always that she's going to
have a roof over her head, and she knows at
the end of the day she's going to be safe.

(13:04):
When a woman's and her woman. But that's that's the
second topic. Let's talk about the basis of the of
what we're supposed to do the fingers doing so. Now,
as a man's role as a provider, protector, right, that's

(13:26):
his role. He's the one that's supposed to provide you're
not supposed to work. Now, if you choose to work,
that's on you. But that's a choice that you have
to make as a choice. Now, it shouldn't never be
something that you have to do. The dare you decide
you have to go to work? Then he's slacking.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Mm hmm, we understand, now I don't all.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Right, I mean, I hear you. But what I'm saying is,
I'm just telling you the roles because the roles have
been blurred to the point where now you got men
looking for women to take care of them. It's fucked up.
It's like twisted. But the reason for the twist is
the whole woman thinking or feeling that this whole feminism

(14:11):
thing is actually a real.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Things that we deserve, but pay an equal rights.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
But I want to say that.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Why would you want to be equal? You have to do.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
But you know what I think you can't take for
granted is the fact that it's such a vulnerable position
to be in, to know that you're relying on somebody
else for your livelihood when that person.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Can That's not ego.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Though woman should never have an ego because right now,
like Prome example, the idea right that I would ever
think in a million years that my woman believes, in
whatever reason, that she has to provide a safety net
for herself because she don't trust that I'm gonna do

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my part. I've already failed I I don't think that.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
So you don't believe in prenups or anything.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
No, I don't, I really don't.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
You don't believe so, But you've been married.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, listen, and that is a good thing.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
No, but it's a mentality thing. It's a good thing
because in time again, I'm trying to tell you guys
don't realize. You may think that you're empowering yourself by
pushing the feminism movement, but it's actually taking power away
from you because it's given you more. It's given you
more responsibility than you're supposed to have. But it's almost
like you're giving us a green past to not do

(15:36):
our roles.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
The reason I can't agree with you is because men
are naturally failure. Men will fail you, but men will
fool you of promises. So I wouldn't encourage any woman
I speak about my hurt, but also I need women
to also wise up because it's men like you that

(15:58):
has the power to make women feel safe. But then
when you cheat on us and we get emotional, emotional
and we feel broken, are we ready to move on?
You have so many women that is broken, don't know
what to do. They turn to drug mental problems because
they're their independence was taken away from them because men
like you tell them don't do nothing. I got you,

(16:19):
and you really don't listen?

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Can I tell you something? Yes, if you hold that mindset, yes,
you want to be independent. You're going to take care
of yourself. You don't need a man. What's the role
that I play in your life?

Speaker 3 (16:31):
To do more for me that I'm doing for myself.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
I can't do more already, But that's.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Not that's the mindset that's.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Different.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
You have to think there's so much more that I need,
more than what I have already.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yourself to do it left for me to do.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Become Give me that trust so I can all back.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I think that's.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Difficult to sign a man that I can trust that
when he says to me I got you, I believe
him and I can close my eyes and fall back
and believe that he's there to catch you.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Have you ever had that?

Speaker 4 (17:13):
No? Listen, listen, it's okay, but I understand you because
I see it everywhere I go. But what I'm telling
you is the only reason why is that you cannot
allow a man to be a man in his full length.
If you're chopping his arms off and his legs off
and expecting to be as strong as you need him

(17:33):
to be, he has to be. Like it's prime example.
If you want a man.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Money is all that from you, guys.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
But it's not even about the money. We don't care.
We don't even half the things y'all want. We only
give it to you what you want.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
We want.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
But what do you think we want? What do you
think a woman wants? A woman want from you? Because
what we want from you, guys never have to give us.
And that's the problem.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Listen, Can I tell you something?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Women only want three things with me?

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Right? They want love, time and secure.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Love time and security.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Jordan is like, I.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Wish that, Okay, what.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
More would you want?

Speaker 3 (18:11):
That? Love?

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Time? What more would you want that? Love? Time? And security?
Don't give you? I don't.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Love doesn't equate to intimacy, doesn't want Intimacy not necessarily.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
A part of love, it really is. But I don't think.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
That's always true.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
M you could lest somebody and yeah, and we're going
to get into that in a second.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
But love is part intimacy is a part of love.
That's it falls in the love circle.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Okay, So so with that being said, you're saying every
woman you have sex with, yes, you are in love
with them.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
No, but it still falls into love intimate because I
love having sex with her, this guy intimacy category.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
How do you have so much time for everybody that
you love that exactly?

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Well, time is something that God gives you, Like you
don't create time. Time is and created for us. We
have to make the time.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
How do you make the time you say you can? So,
then how do they feel your love? If those are
the three things that women want and you can't provide
that all.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
It's all about understanding and knowing the man that you
are in love with. That's why I said, it starts
off with knowing the man you're in love with. Because
what you want you may not hear me out, but
it's gonna make your life easier because what.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
You want making it hard.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
No, Listen, what you want may not be the man
that you are in love with. The problem is women
think they can change men, or I'm in love with him,
or you want to teach him to be who you
want him to be and actually engage him with your
love language and expect him to be able to honor that.

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If he doesn't have the qualities that's compatible with your
love language, it's gonna make a it's gonna make a
very frictionalized relationship because he can't. Men don't know how
to change overnight. We change in time.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, have you you never changed for somebody? You think
I never.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Changed for somebody? But I've changed towards somebody?

Speaker 3 (20:05):
What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (20:07):
I can't direct? Means exactly what I said. I can't
change men. We don't change. We just adjust who we
are top to help better benefit the person we're with.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
But sometimes that benefits you too, right, because because being
the right person will make you see things in yourself
that are like, you know what, I should be.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Better at this, That's what that's I changed towards them.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
But guess what when that person no longer in my life?
What happens? I go right back to who I was before.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
You could be like, I like who I am who
I am now?

Speaker 4 (20:36):
And I'm gonna stick this way, right, But it still
doesn't mean I've changed. It just means I've rearranged my
thought process to be that person for that person.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
These are semantics. I feel.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
That's why I said it's important for women to understand men,
because what happens is you guys judge men according to
how you understand us, but you never judge as to
how we really are. Like prime example, right when we
go into this. And the reason why I said I
don't believe in the word cheating is because men were
put on this earth to like reproduce by nature. God

(21:08):
made us this way. We don't like, we don't.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Tell what we were put there to do.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
I mean, that's between that's between you and God. We
know our rules. Okay, So what I always do, I
always I always take nature with rules that's been put
in by society because I believe we created all these
rules without putting nature into account. And that's why we're

(21:36):
in the problem we're in now, right, Okay, So let's
just go into nature for a minute. And I love
using this analogy because it actually works. Any species outside
the human species obeying nature. We are the only species
that believe that we can outsmart nature, because we create
all these rules just for our society balance a certain

(21:58):
kind of way, because we have to have it our way.
That sometime we don't look at what nature is naturally
and who we are naturally before we decided what that
rule is equates to us and if we can even
obey that rule naturally. Right, So you could put a
thousand niggas on one corner and one bad chick walk past,

(22:18):
you're gonna see a thousand heirs go like this. They
don't even know why they're doing it. They just look
like shit. It's an instinct. You could be with a
guy you just met and he might think the world
of you, and y'all sitting at the restaurant and a
bad chick walk by and you watching him. What are
you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Look at his phone?

Speaker 4 (22:37):
You know, look at it, look at it. And I
know y'all noticed all the time guys looking at women
like you. But let's focus on men just for a seconds, okay,
just for a seconds, for a second.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Hey, we're gonna look at the women too. You see
a bad we both want to look.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Right, but most women are looking to see his reaction
before they react themselves.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
But it's the same with me.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
But what I'm saying is I'm pulling out the natural
instinct that just happens without thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
You don't think that's learned behavior.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Though, No, No, this is this is natural behavior. I'm
walking with you holding hands, right, we're dating, and a
bad chick walk past, and you'd be like, boy, you
better not look at her. It's gonna take everything in
me not to look. What is that urge that makes
me want to look so bad? Right? It ain't because
she told me that, because if she wasn't there, it
look freely. But because she told me not to look,

(23:29):
it makes me want to look even more. And so
it's that feeling that makes that urge that's there. I
have to wonder, what is that urge that gives me that? Right,
that's just natural, the urge that was given within me
as a breeder. That's just how it is. Like. Now,
that's the human side of things. Let's just pick a
different species, like a lion of cass right, Okay. A

(23:51):
lion is in a forest. His job is to protect
the territory. The lioness goes out hunts, bring the food
back and feed it to the cubs. Right within there.
That's probably four five different other lionesses that that king
line protects. His Only only time he gets off that

(24:11):
mountain is when that territory is being threatened. Other than that,
he's gonna take time out, probably go out into the
village or into the forest. He'll probably mate with another
lioness and come on right back, and that lioness is
probably get pregnant. Guess what's gonna happen. She's gonna come
right back in that same territory and be a part
of that whole covenant. Have the cubs. Everything is moving easily.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
What can we talk about the praying mantis? Because the
praying mantis, Okay, that female eats the man's head after mating.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
But that's not that's that's not, that's not.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
This type of species. I'm talking about the mammal species.
So that species. Yeah, the category taking nature now, I'm
talking nature right, the clothes reasons to us. And when

(25:09):
it comes to reproduction, it's plants, right, plants. You have
one minor big plant or tree and it breeds a
whole bunch of little fruits with seeds in it. Why
is it there is more fruits than there are the
actual tree, because the fruits is what bear the seeds,
and because the seeds are there, and both the seeds
are also multiplied, so it can continue to reproduce itself.

(25:31):
Right now, look at the man and the human, I
mean the man and the woman. The woman is the
one that bear the seed. We further, I mean, well,
it's a little bit different because anyway, y'all got the
egg right, there's more women than there are men because
of the fact that you guys are the tool to
reproduce the same way there's more fruits than there is

(25:51):
a tree. A man, hold on, can make a thousands
hold on, listen, listen. A man can make a thousand babies.
A man can make a thousand babies in one year.
A woman can only make one. Why is that Nature's rolls?

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Well, I want to say, there are definitely some societies
where there's more women than men, like and there's.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
A reason though there's more because the reproductive system is
set up. But even then, a man can make a
thousand babies in the year, a woman can only make one.
There's a reason for that.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
What is the reason?

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Because the man is the reproductive tool to keep the
society constantly. But that also this is why men can
have more than one woman.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
But why there's still a choice.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
I'm trying to choice.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
I'm trying to understand the lack of impulse control.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Men don't have an impulse control. I know why not
though nature. There's no with nature that impulse is that.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Let's follow you with the one thousand babies. Let's follow
you with the one thousand babies. Why would you want
to have one thousand babies within a year.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
I'm not saying no, I'm just generally.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Speaking that's possible. Why would any man want to have
multiple baby other than one per year. I'm trying to
see if it's right logically if a man can give
time to.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
The man, they have to give time they had.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
That's the problem that we're especially in our community, because
we need the man. We need the time. The children
need the man, our sons need you a man.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
We need.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
A man cannot be a man and go out and
change the world. If he's home taking care of kids,
he can't.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Well that's where we need.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
That's where the man. Woman support the man.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Listen, you know, so let me speak, because you know
why I want to make our children going to have
to be I'm gonna tell you why I'm gonna speak
because'm a single mom and my son just turned eighteen
and I raised him on my own, and it doesn't
matter how I love him. For his eighteen birthday, I
gave him eighteen gifts and it includes a house and
a car. I love him to pieces. The world knows this.

(28:17):
But there's so much I can give him exactly. But
there's something I can't give him that you could have
given him, or his father could have given or a man.
These young adults, these male they need a man in
the home to teach them certain things that the mother
will never be able to teach. So we need to
agree with that. So it's not just about oh, you're
the woman, you take care of the children. The children

(28:39):
need a man in the home. That's why there's so
many broken homes, and that's why the society is built
up with these young men who's not being led by
a strong male figure in the home. Then they become
rubber when they in need of something because they don't
they're not listening to the woman. They look at us
a week, But if they have a man to say about.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
The relationship between you and his father.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
No, we're that generally boa you say.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Kids, No, No, we are keeping No, you play a
role in it power. Okay, the whole is whose responsibility?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Where you ask first? And I said both of us.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Recording artist she is that has been doing this since
she's young, you know.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
And Spice is an independent woman. Independent woman will hold
the same responsibility as a man. So what you're saying
to me how hard your job is is the job
or the role that we naturally play. Now you chose
to be by no means no, Spice. You're a beautiful, attractive, black,

(29:48):
rich woman. So trust me, you didn't have to be
alone all eighteen years. You chose to be alone.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Well, I didn't say I'm a smash.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Don't tell me that. I don't want to hear that.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
You chose.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
You chose to be alone because you're in your own
way and you want to be independent. You don't want
to be told what to do, and you're not gonna
let a man run your life.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Okay, maybe this is alone for eighteen years, that's that's
not what You.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Never was submissive, You never chose to be and you
will never be submissive.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Why wouldn't that be submissive.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
You're saying it now.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
You don't even try.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
You don't even trust.

Speaker 7 (30:24):
Listen, Submissive is trust, But who am I going to song?

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (30:45):
A woman would like to be submissive, but trust. You
have to be trusted worthy to be.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Trusted, Ladies. I think sometimes y'all miss discount how powerful
y'all are in a man's life. You create the perfect man.
It's not the other way around. The problem.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Man doesn't come ready for you.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
But we will change towards the direction to make them
again like mist again, you can't again again. The part

(31:24):
you're missing is you, guys might can't change it, but
you can influence us. Everything that we do is for
a woman. You do know that.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
So why can't one of your women influence you to
have just them?

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Because I wasn't meant to have just I meant to have.
I wasn't meant to have just one woman? You think
so because I'm a king?

Speaker 3 (31:46):
What does that have to do with you not having
one queen?

Speaker 4 (31:49):
One queen will slow me down? Listen, I'm meant to
play on this earth. One woman can't do it.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
She can't explain. I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
God chooses like okay, promise that God had he made
me hold on, He only made had he made me
a normal guy?

Speaker 3 (32:09):
What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Listen, A normal man with a nine to five one
woman could suffice easy. So you're saying, but he didn't.
He made me to be a voice and a spokesperson
for a whole continent. There's a big difference. But the
responsibilities that come with me don't come with everyday person.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
But don't you think that's selfish?

Speaker 4 (32:32):
No, it does. It's not selfish.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
What you're saying is because you're an Asian and because
you're able to financially take care of and the other
man out there who's not like you, you're saying you.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Made you can ask a quick question.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
No, no, no answer this.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Question.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Listen. You're saying God made you a Kun to take
care of the whole continent. But everybody's not acun. There's
only one Acon on earth, right, So you're saying all
these other men who's not a cunning, who don't have
your money, was not popular like you, who wasn't able
to take care of a whole continent, they should have
one woman, but you shouldn't. That's selfish.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
No, it's not selfish.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Topla.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
It goes back to the roles that God created roles
for everyone. Do you think God's role for me was
just to be famous, have money and be popular? No, okay,
tools that God gave me to fulfill whatever my purpose
was on earth. And I believe my purpose is to
develop Africa, Right, That's what I believe now within a

(33:36):
continent with two billion people, and I need protectors people,
that's close the best protectors on the planet of females. Right.
That's why every king always had multiple wives, because they
are his eyes, his ears, his instinct and his answers
when you need questions answered. Women see shit that we

(33:57):
don't see. He gives y'all instincts that we were as men.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Do you feel like you've ever been betrayed by a woman?

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Everyone gets betrayed by someone in love.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Isn't that the more women you have, the more chance
series of being betrayed?

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Of course it is. But it goes back down to
your faith and the people that He brings you. Like
I believe that the people that God brought me into
my life were people that was supposed to be a
part of my life to help me serve my purpose.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
You know, it's interesting because with all of this.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
On your album Better Day, I just feel like there
are some regrets that you have about But and like
you said, I don't know which songs are real and
which they aren't. But never really mattered, right, never really mattered.
That song in particular as one of them, because there's
a few. Sorry is one of them also, But you know,
you even on that song, and I don't know if it's.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Real or not.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
No, that was based on a true story, all.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Right, So let's talk about that then, because it does
feel like there's certain instances where you feel like living
like a rock star and having too many women you
regretted it.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
No, I didn't regret it, but I did know it
impacted my overall a consciousness from a perspective of how
my life was managed, you know what I mean, Like
I was. I can definitely say I was probably a
little bit irresponsible in certain parts of my life for sure.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
So how much is too much? Then?

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Because too much until the balance is off, okay, you
know what I mean? Like it's almost like you're not
testing the waters, but you're saying, okay, well if the
if the balance hasn't tilted yet, then it's okay mm hmm.
But sometime it's not so because.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
These are because these are lessons learned, right, because it
feels like you lost someone in it and maybe someone's
you know, and and miss them and would like to
get them back, and you know what I'm saying. And
so to me, it's like, when do you say to yourself, Okay,
well I got to pull back.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Well you'll feel it, h Because me the way I
move I moved from. I moved from a spiritual perspective,
like I don't think that everyone is going to be
in your life ever. I feel like everyone's going to
be in your life up until the point of the
purpose that they serve for you and the purpose that
you're here to be for.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
So you think any of the women you're with would
be on your life forever.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
You believe that in the beginning.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
You know, So that's what the prenups for.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Because I'm the kind of person let's give it to
you all and just start over, because I believe that
like my first wife, she wanted alltimore, I'll give it
to her, really start over, one hundred percent. I wouldn't
find her because she deserve it, you.

Speaker 6 (36:34):
Know, how would your other women feel about that.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
No, they'll get their share too, but they ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
So what made her decide to leave?

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Who?

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Your first wife? Nobody left, so she's still there. Yeah, okay,
so that was false.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
You do some rocky stuff, yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
But okay, so it was we definitely.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
We definitely went through the rockiness for sure.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
So how did you fick that?

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Well? I mean, we just talked. It was literally simple
conversations understanding what we should and shouldn't do moving forward.
And definitely, stay the funk off the internet. It don't
help it. It makes it worse. You're being attacked.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Should what shouldn't you do?

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Keep your personal life very private? Okay, that's to me,
that's the best advice I would give anybody, because the
world ain't happy for you because they miserable. And especially
when you're in a situation where it's not the typical
situation that everyone understand, or lifestyle or culture that you
may follow that others don't follow, you can't expect people
to understand that. Well.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I do respect the fact that culturally people believe in
different things when it comes to relationships, when it comes
to marriage, and so I can understand that culturally here
in America is different.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
It's totally different than because when you look when you
look at like the Middle East, you look at Africa,
you look at Asia, the percentage of domestic issues is like,
let's they don't have those issues because the roles are
clear on the roads that the women playing, the role
that the man play. It's only here in Europe that
everybody's everybody. It's how many genders here? That's what I'm saying.

(38:15):
There the roads, who does what and who responsible for it?
There's only one man, but then there's a million other
genders that's not even male or don't even want to
identify themselves as men. So it's like you already outnumbered.
There's fifteen men for every I mean fifteen women for
every one man on this earth. So it's already out numbered.
Then the man that is available, half of them are

(38:37):
identified as something else.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
About half that Okay, let's say let's say a quarter, right,
Let's say that large number three, let's say three quarters, right,
one quarter, one quarter.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Right, not necessarily Now think about that, that's another gender
that's gone. So now four I would say, out of
four quarters, three quarters of the men aren't available, So
now you only have a quarter of the men available,

(39:08):
and then we're gonna follow Spice's rule where each one
of them would only be with one woman. Hey, tell
me how many of these women to be out here
with no man, and how much cast as well will create?

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I gotta check these stats. Check the stand the way.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
State.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Let me ask, this is going to be the earth
each man?

Speaker 4 (39:32):
No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
I'm telling you, it's not nature.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
It doesn't want that.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
How many men are there that every woman in this world?

Speaker 3 (39:40):
What's the ratio?

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Because the aliens? We can't forget that.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
All right, try to give us something.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Let's see what this says that Okay, it is one
hundred and one men for every one hundred women.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
That's not even theory. It makes sense, makes sense, not.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Check it. Okay, no, you know, let's do this.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Let's do this. Let's do this. Hold on, let's do
this now. Now I'm curious. Okay, how many how many?
How many billion people on the earth, which, first of all,
it's completely false billion people? Thinking how we're gonna check it.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Okay, let's see the world's population is a little over
eight point two billion people.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Okay, wait, we saw a chat between about four.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Point one billion men and four point one billion women.
Okay about about no speaking.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
It's a I can't believe that.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Here to therapist.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
That's not even nature. It doesn't work that way. That's
saying that for every one tree. It doesn't make sense.
It doesn't because it's don't. Y're moving on false information.
That's the problem with information. That's the same, Bobby, that
that tells you that a man is a woman and
a woman is a man? How many?

Speaker 3 (41:29):
How many that's your that's a part of your culture
or what like I mean culture?

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Yeah, yeah, billion.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
That's not going down.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Like it's not gonna because your voices on it's not
gonna give you a different answer exactly.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Like giving the answer eight.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Point three billion people on this earth? How many are
women out of eight point three billion people? How many
are women? I just won't say. I just want to
see if it's actually it's accurate information.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
And now he don't like chat GPT.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
I'm upset, upset chat GPT.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Right now they come to right, you need a lifeline.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
What it's saying the same, it's the same, it's equal,
so it's not but it's not. It's not even scientifically
it's not even No, but it's not even scientifically accurate.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Have you ever been cheated on?

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Everybody's been cheated on, whether you whether they got caught
or not. Everyone gets cheated on it.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Okay, have you ever caught somebody cheating on you?

Speaker 4 (42:40):
No? I never caught nobody.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Okay, I've been cheated on.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
How do you know? Because I can feel it?

Speaker 1 (42:45):
You have.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
I can feel it as soon as I put it
on there.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
No, that's a lie. First of all, the more you have,
the more you have, you know what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
Listen, she's trying to cover her tracks and explain some spice.
A man knows it now, you know it fits. It
fits for us the moment that shape changes.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
You know, so somebody for you.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
It doesn't have to do with size. It doesn't because
if it's smaller, we may not notice.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Okay, but if it's bigger, Oh he going hold on
now this let notice no resistance? How you knew?

Speaker 4 (43:37):
That's how you knew?

Speaker 6 (43:39):
How I knew what you could feel a difference?

Speaker 4 (43:41):
No, No, it means it means about patterns.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
I followed the patterns, but we got kegs.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
You just that patterns. One one thing about women. They
have a certain pattern. They just don't know how to
break away from.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Okay, a pattern.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Have you cheated on anyone Angel?

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yes, of course when I was younger, younger, what now? No,
absolutely not. My man would not even I can't even move.
Please listen, can you picture that? You know my man,
he's not having that at all.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
I don't even think because you know his purpose, you
know his role. That iron fist is evident in this house.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Goddamn right now.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
That's I'm scared to even text anybody. Hey, how's it going.
I'm not even doing that.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Have you cheated all the time? Of course?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
That's she got that volcano. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
I'm just talking ship. I'm just I'm very loyal to
my man only. But if you cheats on me, then
that's it. I'm not gonna stay with you. I'm gonna
cheat on you, of course. Yeah, if you cheat on me,
I'm a cheat on you.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Worse, be realistic. I want you to I want you
to have a long life with the man.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
That loves you.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Eat my love when life.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yes, we are entry. We sell if you are fo
me a.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Period. That's the name of this episode. Feeling I guess
it's sweet you. I love it, love.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
But now now I understand why there's a problem. I
get it now, and now it's clear. Yes you showed me. Yes,
because what is what it is doing is playing on
the narrative of this whole family women as feminist. Yes,
one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Say he wanted wasting.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
He's lying to you. Okay, we don't. That's crazy, honestly believe.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
All right, but look now, I want to talk about
something that Spice posted as a poll on her page.
She put up a pole on her page and her
poell was this, all right, if we had to choose
between a man who had money but was old and
terrible looking, because the guy you put I don't know
who he is, but he looked awful, or a guy

(46:34):
who had no money but was handsome jeordy, I hope
you're listening. Or a guy who will never cheat but
he's impotent, or a guy with a big dick, but
he's a cheater.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Who are you all going with the cheater cheater?

Speaker 1 (46:47):
No, we're not. I'm absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Okay, you're going with no money but handsome?

Speaker 3 (46:53):
No money but handsome?

Speaker 4 (46:54):
What?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
No, that's better than First of all, I can't be
with somebody I'm not attatted to. So I don't care
how much money you have. If you look terrible and
I'm not at chatted to you, I cannot be with you.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
Okay, So let me ask you this. Do you think
a very attractive man won't cheat on you? Okay, we'm
cheating on you because.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
But he's a man.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
You think all men tea?

Speaker 4 (47:21):
We all do at one point.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
My man is cheating on me.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
He's a strong with your man? First of all, I'm speaking,
I'm talking about me. No more. Number two.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Cheated? Would you tell me no him?

Speaker 4 (47:49):
I wouldn't. Why would I do that? Be a strong man?
Though he got his house in order with him, IM
gonna support him.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
I will support I was with your girl, I would
tell you.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
I'd be like I wouldn't want to know though you
don't want to know if you get cheated on.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Here's why. Here's I have a question for akon. If
your woman cheat on you, would you take her back?
That's fair?

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Why is that?

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Because don't have that much value? Like I wouldn't give
the sex more value than I have for her. Okay,
she's more valuable to me than that that action.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
But if she had a baby and it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Yours, Okay, she got your family.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
What's your answer to that question? The old man the money,
he'll die eventually. Yeah, it doesn't work. I think you didn't.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
You got you burns on the Simpsons, you got yeah, Yeah,
she's not my poll.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
The thing with her, she does not create her plan.
She knows that she's got to deal with it with
a certain amount of years because she inherit. All that
money gonna.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Get having that beast of a thing on you having
sex with you that how would you do?

Speaker 6 (49:23):
The other options were, what no cheating, but he his
dick doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah, he's poor, but he's here again.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
And the last one was a big read them again. Okay,
money but ugly ugly, No money but handsome. Money is
not a big deal to me. Okay, well, because I
got it, will never cheat. But he's impotent and a
big dick. But the cheater, well can't you can't one.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
But it's not aboutship.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Relationships, I promise you. But it makes me impact.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Team out fancy. So you got to think about it now,
like if he you know.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
I don't want somebody that is.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
You worked, you work too hard and too much, and
maybe you don't care about that.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Spice spicy yes, spic.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Yes, yes, she.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Mean it.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Enough.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
No no, no no.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
With the loan, you with this nigga, thegliest nigga with
that loan, I can't.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
I think you have to have a strong stomach to
date someone that you don't need to just for the money.
I couldn't do it.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
I mean, looks like the face of the handsome one
is still like.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Okay, I mean listen, that's Jordie's choice, that's what she's.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
You know, well, Jordie is smart. Actually, I mean it's
a practical You have a sacrifice life. You got to
sacrifice the time. Let him wear yourself out life.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Have you ever been with somebody and woke up and
been like, oh, yeah't looked like this last night.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
That's entertainment.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
You know, it's off, and now you look completely different.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
I mean that happens, right, It definitely happens.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah. Do you feel like you were wow when you
were younger?

Speaker 4 (51:40):
When I was younger, I was definitely wow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
M hmm.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
I would say that, you said, I would say that,
what would you could you think of like something that
that was super wild that you did that you were like, damn,
I can't believe.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
I think I think every man has a story like that. Really, everyone,
every man has a story like that because we all
have to I mean, we all have to eventually mature,
because you I think when we're getting when we're getting
into like manhood, coming out of puberty, we're in explore mode,
like we feel like the world is like we're missing
out on something. This is why men practically collect women

(52:13):
at that age, because we're just like, oh my gosh,
she's beautiful. She's beautible. So when I thought I found
the baddest. So it's like you're constantly moving around until
you start to realize, Okay, the looks and the body
and all that ain't really the main focus. Then you
start looking at different things, like her personality, you know,
her heart. You start really starting to narrow things down right,

(52:33):
and then you eventually find somebody. Then you stick with them,
and then you realize, damn, can I be with this
person forever without being with nobody else. So these are
all challenges and the phases that we have to go through.
So every man you meet they're going to cheat before
they become big and better for you. Like men, we
grow better with age as time go, we become perfect.
But we have to go through that whole process. And

(52:55):
this is why I'm sad for Spice, because Spice don't
give a man enough time to grow. She lets some
go from the first mistake.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
I feel like you tried.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
If I'm being blinking me, may not try with no man.
You've tried, You've given men.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Spice don't give you no like you gotta try.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
But how many how many women do you think you
have to go through before you reach that point?

Speaker 4 (53:21):
It's not a lot, actually, because believe it or not,
a lot of the women that guys be with they're
not smashing. It just looks that way.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
I want some numbers, you like, statistics. I want I
want to hear what you're you like on it.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
I mean, how many women a guy have to go
through before they find that one?

Speaker 3 (53:36):
She said, you maybe a lot. Let me ask.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
How many women does a kon have to go through
before he finds the one?

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (53:51):
It said, there's no real way to calculate, even if
there are roughly four billion women in the world. As
for Akon, specifically only he could say, Okay, that's true.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Let me ask, come on, how many women have Acon
been with?

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Because you don't even know.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
You are?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
You are a wild you searching for Acon number. There's
no reliable public number how many women Acon has been with.
Acon has been fairly open about.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
And public discussion.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Having multiple wives. Acon has said to have nine children.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Okay, is that you nine? That's correct?

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Okay, so the longest is a polygamy.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
M HM.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Claims suggests chat GPT is being very cautious. Claims suggest
that he has four wives, allegedly, though Acon himself has
recently refused to confirm an exact number.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Okay, not mad at that.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
So has been listening to, well, it's been listening to.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
I couldn't have heard all of that because we didn't
even say this. You know, you think you're do you
think that you're good in bed?

Speaker 4 (55:14):
I would like to say I'm excellent in bed? Why
do you tell you, oh, you know, nobody leaves.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
But you have the money though, and the fame and
the power and everything else that would make us stay.
You just heard she said she'll stay for money options.
You just heard a beautiful woman say she would stay
for the money. So what is it because of your money?

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Y'all say, y'all just check my references.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
How good? I can't say. I can't say.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Okay, have you been squirted on?

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Okay, so I could tell you this. I've been creamed on,
squared on and farted on?

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Oh, farted.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Crying on?

Speaker 1 (56:11):
You can cry it on?

Speaker 6 (56:13):
What about throwing up on?

Speaker 4 (56:14):
No?

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Okay, well you guys.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
And the only reason why is because I realized, like
you can, you don't embarrass her or yourself. So you
got to know the mouth side before you go all
the way in and push it in. You know, you
got to just keep it at the level.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
To where she can Did you feel bad when you
were crying on? Was there tears of joy? Or was
it tears of like? Okay? Have you cried?

Speaker 4 (56:37):
No? Not yet. I'm waiting for that moment.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
He said it so nicely too, April.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Oh lord, God, have you cried during sex?

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Me?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Yeah? You have you emotional?

Speaker 4 (57:05):
No?

Speaker 1 (57:05):
I don't know why not emotional?

Speaker 4 (57:16):
No?

Speaker 2 (57:16):
I haven't your emotional You created your emotional that.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
No, it's not because I'm an artist. The problem is
because my passage is so small like it's extra smaller
than like every other woman.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
Okay, in Jamaica, didn't niggas know how to rum, so
she definitely cried.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Listen, so you cry from getting rummed. I cannot wait
to hear this song.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
No, I love it.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
No sex is nice. I love it because I'm nearly
mad me.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Okay, that's what I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
She's damage this one.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Guy, nearly mad me drive me crazy.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I'm sorry to hear that. I cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I cannot wait till you like you know, I'm going
to ask you this love and hip hop is over?

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Yes, how do you feel about that?

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Glad? No, No, I have more time. I would say
I would have more time, and I took my music.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
Do you miss the show? Do you miss it? You
know what?

Speaker 3 (58:43):
When it was over, I was like, Okay, I can
focus on being an artist now, and you know, I
have more time for myself. But like sometimes I'm in
at Lane time, I'm just home and I'm like, oh
I miss the girls and I missed the show. So
it's like a given take. But yeah, I think I
did you know what I went to Atlanta to do,
and that part of my life is over.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
But I love I love your relationship with Vibes. When
Vibes Cartel came home, and I always look at you
too as like like the ultimate kind of like you cry?

Speaker 1 (59:14):
What how?

Speaker 4 (59:21):
I don't know. It's not something I would ask Vibes.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Of course, Vibes and I've never had sex. We've never
been intimate.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
I don't think that.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
I thought that because of our history. So you know,
you have forgive people grace because of what they've seen.
They grew up on Live Carton and I doing ramping
shop and send in a provocative.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Way, you know.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
But have you ever been with another artist?

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
You notice I don't date celebrities why because they're crazy.
In my whole career, I had two celebrity relationships and
that and that was early, like during my locked up
days when I first came to the industry. That's when
I realized I can never date a celebrity.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Why they can't be just crazy as you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
It doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
It's only one of us, right, it doesn't work.

Speaker 6 (01:00:28):
So how do you meet people? How do you meet women?

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
I mean just I just let it be what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
I just how do you meet.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
More at all?

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
He's been heartbroken. You know he's back.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
No, I'm heartbroken.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
You've never been heartbroken?

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
No, I mean not heartbroken, but I've been disappointed for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Saying heartbroken.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
There's nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
You said you felt like you had to stay through
your heart.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Wait what that's politics, that's heartbroken.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
No, I wasn't never heartbroken. I was disappointed.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Okay. What disappointed? You just to.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Know certain things that I expected to be a certain
way that it just didn't work out the way. Okay,
Well that's life, right like, and I think women deal
with that too. Sometimes you think you're heartbreaking, but you're
really more disappointed because you just assume that the belief
that you're having someone to make a certain decision is
going to be the decision you want them to make, right,
And then you find out, okay, they're not quite the

(01:01:31):
mindset that you thought it was going to be, and
they make the opposite decision, and you're like, I didn't
see that one coming. Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Yeah, he says, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
I imagine a trying to, you know, trying to argue
with him at home, and he's like, I can't even
see it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
No, it's me. My argument is always psychological, because I
would I would I need to understand where you cam
from with the argument first, and then I would kind
of rephrase what you're arguing to me about back to
you and see if you give me the answer that
I would give you. If you give me the answer
that I would give you, then I will give you
the answer again. Then we're clear because now we're the same.
But if you give me a totally different answer, then

(01:02:16):
I understand now where you're coming from because it's not
what I thought it was. Then I can properly answer you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Okay, there you have it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Ask you about like if you think you're going to bed,
do you consider yourself a freak?

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
I think I am here?

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Okay, why is that? Like what? Because you know being
a freak is like, yeah, that's what's freaky.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Well but I'm I'm like, I'm not like like freaky
like no, no, no, no, that's that's that's different level.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
That's not okay.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Let's do it this way. Like you know your a
bitual tie restaurant, so you know how to have the spices. Okay,
you understand spice right from zero to ten?

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Know how hot it is?

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
So from a freak. From zero to five, I mean
from zero to ten, I'll probably call myself a.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Party of seven, four or five.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Oh my god, See beyond five, it's not no longer.
Sex is the ship that stimulates you for sex.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
That's because I can hear some stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Yeah, because think about it, right, You got people like
to me. From zero to five, it is one hundred
percent when it comes to sex free. Then from five
to ten, it's the ship that you do that ain't
sex but stimulates you four six. Like you got motherfuckers
that get like that, get aroused by you sitting on
their chest and shitting like. Oh. But I'm just saying

(01:03:48):
so when you say free, it gets to that level
you understand what I'm saying. So I'm giving myself a
four five.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
And have you ever said somebody with more money than you?

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
I possibly have, Okay, I possibly have.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
You just don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
He's like, yeah, I don't. I don't really count their
money or no who it is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Let's ask about like that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
You know what's so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
I can probably put one out how many men updated okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
How many times.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Should talk her? But I haven't been in a lot
of relationships, but most girls the ones that talked the
most ship really about life, the ones that like, the
ones that dress super like, like just provocative to the
point where you can, damn it, she ain't wearing nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Those are the ones that don't be giving up none.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Okay, well good to.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
Be the quiet, yeah, reserve, low key and librarian.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
It's true. It's true.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Space. You are so funny to me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
I want you to your bestie trip out here, because
you're going to Barbados.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
I'm going to Barbaris So I have a trip called
Besty Weekend. Normally it's hosted in Jamaica where people come
and spend three nights with me. We have fun, we party,
we go all the places in Jamaica. Last year I
did in Jamaica. It was lovely. We went to Duns River,
We went to so many different events. It was crazy.
But because of the hurricane that happened in Jamaica, you know,
Hurricane and Milicia damage most of the resorts, I said,
we're going to Barbados this year. So it happens the

(01:05:30):
first of August to the fourth. So we go for
three nights. So we're going to crop over Carnival. You
should come listen.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
I'm once.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Really, yes, shout out to dam pooh. It was his
birthday and he's gone Barbadoes. Okay, if he's going, he's
going because you're going to Conkland chap House.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Oh yes, then I'm as sure. I see if he's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Crapover for sure. So we're gonna be in Barbados for
best two weekends. So yeah, Spice official dot com is
my website. You should check it out. Okay, spend three
nights with me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Now you're on tour win Neo, so let's talk about that.
Where can people get tickets? And I want to say
his live performance, both of you. That's why I can't
wait for you guys to do a song together.

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
Oh no, it's gonna be what would be? Who already
wrote the song today?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Right? Listen a few of them already. Some ideas just
feel like a battle.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
No, I'm gonna sign some ship. You're gonna You're gonna
love this, Okay, I can't work.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Yeah, you know, you gotta come. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
She gotta come always.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
That's the last of my worries, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
I can't wait to hear this back and forth. But okay,
So what so where where can people get tickets?

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
One more time?

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
We're clearly you can you know, Live nation dot com, Ticketmaster.
But if you don't deal with all that, going Acon
dot com or Neil dot com and you can just check.
I mean, we're available everywhere. Go on my Instagram. You
see the schedule where we're gonna be what time, and
this links there to go straight to my tickets as.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Well to and you can always ask chatt because as
you know, they.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
Don't lie, lost lost.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Hope you I made up some numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
These all numbers that I know for sure are research.
So you counted every yes, but ever since count but
our research and it was always.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Similar to recently, where's that research on the internet?

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Like literally on Google and ship like that? Now just
check Google, Google mimic exactly what God working together.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
All I know is your whole theory is done.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Okay, Well a cop and Spice, thank you so much
for joining us today.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
I had a great time with you and honestly, like
we could have kept this conversation for sure now is.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
For sure for sure? Well, thank you for having me.
Don't forget My song Volcano is out right now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Album on the summer, so keep true on the reggae
charts too, So.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Shout out that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Absolutely, you know they always supported.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
One thing about you is you're gonna have them viral moments,
the competitions, and I love that, like the content that
you create around everything that you do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Sho shout out to you for that. A kon.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Obviously you are a gem and I appreciate that and
everything that you do. And look, I told you become
in peace. Sure, yeah, you know, drag him, y'all go ahead. No,
I was gonna say sometimes as women, we need to

(01:08:22):
also appreciate man that's honest and open because some of
them is not honest and open and then we get broken.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
So just be aware of what you're getting into. At
least he's saying straight up what he's into.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
Yeah, but I think y'all should take the time to
actually learn and understand memoir. And so I knew you
guys and the thought that we're.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Just what what he's the word?

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
What's the word? That's the word?

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
You're just just what?

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
Idiots?

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Thank you? Okay, First a confession.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Right, and before we go, don't forget his twenty twenty six.
If the man cheat on you, you cheat back.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
No, no, whatever you do, do not.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
She got need to clean you all.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Not let the box go. Don't open the box.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Delivery op the open the box.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
Service.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
That's no.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
Not you wrapped in a ribbon. You become a present
for the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Man that deserves that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
Please keep it locked in the bowl and give it
to the man that deserves you. Do not open the box.
Keep it lot.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Don't listen to Spice, don't listen to and don't follow him.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
I follow him.