LS Episode 566: The Rules of the Creek (feat. Saucy Santana)

Saucy Santana returns to Lip Service for a hilarious, unfiltered conversation about his latest hit “Quiet on the Creek,” making millions on TikTok Live, navigating relationships in the public eye, and why he refuses to go from “first class to coach.”

Santana breaks down how “Quiet on the Creek” went from an idea he wasn’t even taking seriously to a viral hit, reveals how much money he’s made battling on TikTok Live, and gets candid about why some of his biggest records have come while operating independently. He also reflects on signing to a major label, the challenges of staying true to himself in the music industry, and what he learned from watching artists like Sexyy Red succeed by refusing to conform.

Of course, it wouldn’t be Lip Service without getting into his love and sex life. Santana clears up where things currently stand with his ex, explains why he’ll never accept being put “on the roster,” shares his rules when it comes to relationships without titles, and gets VERY candid about intimacy, attraction, and some of his wildest sexual experiences.

He also opens up about his close friendship with Yung Miami and being there for her during difficult moments, his relationship with Cardi B, potential “Quiet on the Creek” remix features, and the importance of having genuine people around him as his career continues to grow.

Plus, Santana addresses some of the viral conversations and controversy surrounding him head-on, explains what “Quiet on the Creek” actually means, and makes it clear that he’s not letting the internet take away from what he believes is a major moment in his career.

From money and music to friendship, relationships, sex, and internet drama, Saucy Santana holds nothing back in this episode of Lip Service.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up. It's lip service. I'm Angela Yee, I'm Jordie
George his siger a Cleo trapper, woo boy.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Okay, first of all certified gold, Material Girl, period relation.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yes, is that what you say to date?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Until Quiet on the Creek, that's been like the number
one song you've had. Yeah, okay, it's interesting because Walk
was so big too.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Walk was big, but Material Girl status wise is my
biggest song.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
And then Madonna jumped on it. Yes, Oh my god.
Can you imagine the type of.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I gagged because like she asked to do that record.
That's say, we would reach out like I don't see
if I could get Madonna on this, Like that was
her idea. What was that called?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Like what the phone call?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I was just gaggy. I'm like, it's first of all
with me, Like this ain't okay about They're like, no,
she wants to do it. So she was actually recreating
a lot of her hit songs into an album, and
I just thought that was even more dope because she
had her own material Girl, right, you know, she wanted
to use my version, which was like, okay, this is

(01:16):
super league.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Like that's so dope because when I tell you iconic, iconic.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
A lot of people can't say they got a song
with Madonna, but a lot of people can't say met
Madonna exactly. And I actually met her, like we went
in the studio and recorded this song together. I experienced her.
I went to dance with her. Madonna like you got
she had like a peppermint. What is that called a
diffuse or human? You gotta smell like peppermint? She is hell.

(01:44):
I remember I first ate I first ate sushi with Madonna,
and you know, I'm a ghetto. I didn't know how
to do the things. So I was so scared to
show her, like ground, how to work these shop sticks.
Every time she turned to time.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Was like, it's so funny when you think about, like
where we started and where we are today. Certain things
that we didn't know, like like certain foods, but like
what's this that now it's like regular.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Regular, yes, yellow tail and all that.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
What's something like cleo that you had to eat that
you were like, dang, what is you know?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I would say caviyall because I was a little shocked.
It's not even bad.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I don't get the hype. I don't get the hype though,
it though like it is definitely hyped up. But I
liked it like it was.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
It was cute.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I eat a little potato.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Good.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
What about you to do?

Speaker 4 (02:39):
It's something you ate something French like that's cargo, that
was not doing that?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
That snails, right, it snails. It's good. I'm a little bread.
There's certain things I'm not.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I'm good for snail turtle.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I remember the first time I found out about Eda
mamae okay, because it is.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Like a little look like a string being yeah, yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
A little snapped and that's when you know, you know,
made it.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
But listen, I.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Just want to give it up to you, Saucy, because
I just think that you're like really kicking down doors.
People don't even realize, Like how crazy is it. You
literally sat down with Cam Newton. I don't know if
I've ever seen Cam Newton doing an interview like that
with a you know, an artist that's LGBTQ artist. Like
what a great representation that is with people. And I

(03:34):
don't think anyone really has to we have to like
fully grasp how important that is.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, you know, so I thought I thought it was
I thought it was dope doing an interview with him.
I actually like being in those spaces where I could
combine uh LGBT with like, you know, the heterosexual men,
because I feel like sometimes when it comes to me
and men, I think they see me or they see
my appearance and they like. And I actually experienced this

(04:01):
even before rapping in my trap days. It was like, nigga,
you can't be out here with us. Why I'm not
like one thing about when it comes to me, I
don't don't, I don't overstep, I don't bother the niggas.
I don't try. I ain't gonna try you. I'm me.
I'm in my own special. I'm actually stiff when it
come to niggas because I just know the I just
know the stereotype like oh, we're finna try y'all or

(04:23):
we'p f in the.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
You're like, I don't, just because I.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
That's not even the case. So I like, I like
being able to be in our spa of niggas. And
it's so crazy because when I'm around straighten men at
the end, at the end of our experience, and like, man,
you're a real nigga, you just you know you gotta
experience every everything is not you know what it seems
what people think. So I like being able to be
in those spaces and I can tell. And in the
beginning he was kind of like.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Trying to be like I am a straight yeah, please
please please yes, And so at the end of the
interview was like, nah, you're my dog, I see And
even with streamers and like see all of that with
you know, just seeing you like in those spaces that
typically we don't see and people can be, especially in
hip hop and in sports, like really homophobic. And so

(05:10):
I just think it's great because the music hits and
I think.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
That is yeah, what is really about that The music
is definitely there, Thank you, And.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
You're making a lot of money, like you is putting
clear up on some game about these tiktoks. I'm trying
to fully understand TikTok licking.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
I feel like you really have everybody wanting to really
go on TikTok love and make a coin from it
when they see you, like hold on again, Louis.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Every day you got a lot of money from I
started TikTok I think the end of.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Twenty twenty four, the beginning of twenty twenty five and
I already did like two million dollars.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
You better get on there duty, and I love how
you use that platform to promote your music.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Quite on, the came from that, right, came from that
bounce came came of It's like you already right there. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So really, I would say
the money and TikTok, though, is in the battles, because
basically when you're battling, uh, it's it's it's a competition.
So say you got people that's my fan base, and

(06:22):
you got people that's your fan base. They're sending us
gifts and whoever has the highest score in the in
the end of five minutes wins, so they.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Still get the gifts from the battle in itself, and
the gifts translate to money.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yes, so the gifts start from a penny to the
highest one's five hundred dollars. A TikTok universe. So if
you see me on TikTok Live drop a.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Union, are you battling random people?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
You go battle random people or you know, we have
our friends that we like that we battle each other.
But yeah, that's the that's kind of the incentive of
people to send versus you're just sitting on there streaming.
Nobody at really gonna you're sitting on their streaming. But
you know, you have people that love the battle world.
That's like they that's like they guilty pleasures. That's like
them going to the casino where that's like the movie.
They like to get all live and support our battles.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
I was on Live before, and I remember it was
like these two little white boys. They came on my
Live and they're like, let's battle, let's battle, but.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Just do the battle thing.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, I'm watching it. I'm like okay, uh huh. You're
like okay, yes, I never do it again.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, go back, go back to battling. That's a coin
that's ain. But it's not as easy as it looks
because although I was already famous, I was already saw
Santanna going on there. You have to build a fan base. Yeah,
and it's and it's more than battling. I actually stream
I take them to my shows. They've seen my vulnerable moments,
they've seen breakups, they've seen me sleep by accident. They

(07:51):
they met my mom.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
You know.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
They it's kind of like.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
You and they've been introduced to your man, they.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Come behind the scenes. So it's like, yeah, when we
do battles, that's that Netflix subscription that you watch. Because
TikTok is so big right now, and it's it's kind
of a blessing in the curse because you have so
many people on there right now that think like it's
a TV show. Yeah, So it's like people ain't watching
TV no more. They they they they at home watching. Uh.

(08:18):
I have people say I'm falling asleeping, I fall asleep
in your lives. They're watching people like dre Baby. You know,
they're they're watching tea at camp and you know they
they watch these these That's that's the entertainment. So it's like, yeah,
when we're doing the battles and.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Make you feel like you have more control too, because
it's not like you're waiting for a produced TV show. Yes,
you know, you can do something and instantly know like
what you're getting, but it's.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
So it's so toxic that sometimes it does get produced.
Sometimes those people on there are looking for clips and
viral moments and they really plot and play a lot
of stuff. Yeah, That's that's why that was my only
reserve with Twitch. At first, I felt like TikTok was
a little bit more authentic. Take the the The battles
are the entertaining part because I have like different songs

(09:05):
I play when we win. I got like whenever I
win the battle, I'll go get I would go get
like a luggage and I would put my phone in
the luggage and throw it down my stairs and I'd
be like, yeah, I just patch your holes up, like
get ready for your flight. It's free being airlines, so
it's like, you know, we really get into it. But
I've seen I was like, I feel like with twitch,
you got to like go to a restaurant and running

(09:27):
the back and steal.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
It's too much.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
That's kind of like kind of you know. I'm like,
because you just sitting there like everybody like, Okay, what
you're gonna do?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I want to ask you, do you feel like you're
addicted to your phone?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Though at a certain point because dating is probably and
I know all that is gets incorporated, But have you
ever did?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
And they'd be like, yo, just like can we just not? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, I'm a libro, so I'm I'm very I get like, hey,
hold on, so I have dated other boys that I stream,
but I'm not a person that's like locked into the phone.
Now do I need to cock in to get that bag? Yes?
But for me, I could probably do a battle at

(10:11):
three o'clock. A series we do they call it series
three strike eliminations. So I could do a series at three.
I'll be done with that by five. I could go
back and do another series at eight or nine. I
could go back and do another series that reset, which
is midnight, or sometimes you might you sometimes I done
did one series and made like five K, or like

(10:35):
the other day, I stream from like nine o'clock in
the morning to like one and I made like five
K from nine nine am to one pm. So I
was like, it might be bad tomorrow. You know, say
so I know how to I know how to separate
and make time for my stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I gotta ask you because listen, it seems like some
back and forth relationship wise quiet on the creek, you know,
can we talk about this for a second that yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
I know we want to know, like, are you back
with your ex?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Or no? So you not with new?

Speaker 4 (11:10):
No you know new from you?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
No, we're not. I'm not back with him.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
But Joela on good terms.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Well he just pulled another stunt. But I think I
think that, uh, when it comes to that situation, I
think we got a lot of love for each other,
a lot of respect for each other, A lot has
transpired and get some things.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I don't know if I.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Would yeah, so and and, But that's the thing. It's
just what people see as a surface who's said that
one hundred percent forgave that. That's stuff that you have
to work through, that stuff that you have to talk
about that, those are things that you that it takes time.
So I think when people people got excited when they
see us back on good terms and out the hair

(12:04):
here right here, well just put it on. That's help
with it. Okay, we got a really good friendship. I build.
I build bonds with people before I started dating them.
So it's kind of like, even if we don't work
out as boyfriends, you know, we're still like that's my twin.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
But what about boundaries and line because there's certain times
that things get public the way maybe I need to
be more And I know you said, we don't know
if you've completely forgiven, but if you talk crazy about.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Me, I feel like it's clit. I feel like it's clipped.
That's like unforgivable.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
And there's people that have said about me and I'm like,
I am never fucking with you again because and I
just don't trust it.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Now I can say that I feel like because I
grew up like this a lot of times, like niggas
be hurt. That's what people don't realize. Niggas be hurt
and niggas being barrassed. So they'll try to go and
bad mouth or go and oh it's this, or you know,
niggas is man. I see, I've seen it growing up

(13:11):
in the hood, like man like man, that better's home.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I hate man?

Speaker 3 (13:17):
What help be going on my phone on pussy staying
in the room? Shows up? You was lying that you
was hurt, and the next thing, you know, the other
person like I thought you said this about your baby mama.
I said she was a bad bitch another kid on
the way, and you're right there. So you know what
I'm saying. And not to make nigga as an excuse,
but niggas be hurt. All my niggas be hurt, all

(13:41):
of them.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Did he apologize?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Uh? Yeah, he apologies. He apologized to me. But you
know what I'm saying, it's it's just like it's it's
different when you have the public right, It's like that
is different. It's like you want to forgive, but it's
all scrutiny, honest, extra like you know.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
But because then the decision to put him in the video, put.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Him in the video, I feel like the first the
first verse was about him. Oh so it was like,
you know, tell.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Me about the first I heard it changed to the
whole trick bigger than niggas with woo lady, Why change?

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Because I understood it. I didn't think it was a this,
but let me hear well that it changed. The radio
version changed. So I just felt like it was a
lot of who It was a lot of hoo ride
about uh you saying my name is it? It is this that? Okay?
So when the radio people was asking for this song,
we're just gonna change it. That's real. So that way

(14:41):
you don't feel slighted, you don't feel when it's on
the radio, you don't feel no type of way. You're
just gonna take it out. I don't know why she
thought that though it really was a thing. It really
was a thing of bigging him up, because you know, hee.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
He holds up and it's a sentence that one.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
So you know, it was just it was just, it
was just a thing. It was just a thing of that.
Like basically the first verse is about being a sidebage
if you really listen to it. I was given a
rule book to all of the hoes that like to
fuck with him and like to think that they're going
to get the things that I've gotten. It's not gonna happen, babe.

(15:28):
But if you be quiet, you might get She's working
some songs. Okay, yeah, So but you know, we've just
been through a lot. I think that, you know, we
were just trying to be cool, and I think that
our fans got excited and people was like, you know,

(15:50):
y'all day back together, day back together, when you know,
me and him had a conversation and it's just like
at the end of the day, I going from first
class to coach. I'm not going from being no nigga
boyfriend to being on a nigga roster. No, for real.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
But then are y'all both cheat on each other?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
No? Okay, just asking you never heard me say that.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yes, I take pride in it actually, like a lot
of anybody. I'm even other men that I deal with.
They like, I ain't gonna lie and show them in
a relationship that neat napping, very stiff, very I got
a man that no matter, he don't stay here. I'm
not on that, so you know. But at the at
the end of the day, breaking up and getting back
together and dealing with you know, just I'm not I'm not.

(16:38):
I'm not. I'm not going from being a boyfriend to
being being on a roster to make it, to make.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
It nobody feeling that they got one up on you.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, like what what these hos be thinking? You know?
So it's like I ain't playing at QC for the internet,
but in real life you're privately dating somebody else and
y'all got all this going on in your city and
all this other stuff quick they want to keep so
bad like for real. Yeah, so it's like before before
I be on a roster, We're gonna just be cool.

(17:07):
Like you know what I'm saying, we're your kick, you know,
you you my nigga when you dare or whatever the
case is. But you doing you, I'm doing me. We
do each other and that's that. But I think where
the confusion is is you cannot do relationship ship without
the title. Okay, So if you're not my boyfriend right now,
you're not the king.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Okay, so what you do have a boyfriend right now?

Speaker 3 (17:27):
No? Okay, I'm single. But I'm saying if you're not,
if you're not my boyfriend, if it's not solidified, you're
not the king. You and you and all these people
as the same. It doesn't matter about a dollar amount,
it doesn't matter about how much you spend. No, all
of y'all are equal until somebody step up and stamp
that cup up or shut up.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Hello, Okay, okay, So what's the situation with chef.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
D right now?

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Who's that? Oh?

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Okay, wondering?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Well I wish it?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, okay, I didn't know, because it feels like you're
a forgiving person.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
But no, not always the.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I talked about my mom. It's just all kind of
what what's you're the best?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Good luck and listen blessing though, because so I want
to quiet on the creek. When you were doing this
song and like constructing it and people were watching and
you felt inspired, you had to do this song and
people got to experience that whole process, did you know
it was going to be a hit right away in
your head, like kind.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Of once once I went to the studio and I
did this song. This is the thing about crowding the Creek.
So when it first started going viral at first, I
was irritated because initially I was like, okay, I'm viral
for something else. But I'm so used to being viral. Yes,

(18:57):
so it's kind of like it's not the same excitement
no more like when we first time on Borro, was like,
I got a million views. I got it. I don't
feel like they don't. Who's that the shame?

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Oh, let's see.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
The shame. That's what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, brother, okay, okay,
you have a good time. Okay, can sit me.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I pay.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, I got you, I got you. Yeah, Okay, I'm
so excited. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Okay, I know that you saved his life.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
So he's yeah. So it was so crazy because I
seen it and I was like, okay, I'm viral for
something else next. And then so as I'm streaming everybody
like you gotta be read you too loud, I'm like, okay,

(20:02):
so then I'll go live with somebody else. They like,
why isn't my whole comments section telling me I'm too loud.
I'm like, I'm so sorry that they're crazy. So I
would streaming with my homeboy one day and he was like,
it don't kind of get like aggravating, like, but you're
being famous and all, like you know all this stuff.
I was like, it does. But then I had an

(20:22):
I literally had an epiphany in that moment, and I'm like,
people pray to go viral, they try to pay to
go viral, and I'm doing this again. Yeah, I'm like,
instead of me passing my stuff on the back and

(20:43):
dismissing it, I need to lean into this moment, every
moment at that that I have, because it's a lot
of stuff that I go viral for that I don't
even pay attention. I just at the end of that
carry it and I'll be like, okay, girl, give me
a week and stuff and we'll be onto something else.
So I was like, you know what, I'm gonna do
something about it. So I called Trey Tracks. I was like, brother,
we're gonna i'mnna do a freestyle because in the back

(21:05):
of my head too, I'm like, is it corny to
do a quad on a cree? Song, like what I'm
gonna rap about what? Like you know, I'm very much
like ap burking bed put Nigga paying my views, like
what do Aquid on the creek? So I was like,
I'm gonna make a freestyle. So Train was like, fuck
fuck doing a freestyle. Let's just make a song. It
don't hurt. Like. I'm like, all right, bet, And I
literally tell everybody this is God. Because I was supposed

(21:28):
to go to the studio and I was so sleepy.
I was like, I'm gonna take me a nap, Like girl, please,
I got a series out of that, but I'm gonna
take me a nap. Wake up, do my series, get
my money, CID on the pre if I get to it.
I get to it, and I laid down in the bed.
I cannot go to sleep. That shore was good. I
could not go to sleep, and I was sleepy. I
needed to nap bed. I couldn't go to sleep. I

(21:49):
just couldn't go to sleep, and I was like, let
me just get a put on my clothes to go
to the studio. Went got up, went to the studio.
I did my series, and I was like, Okay, I'm
gonna just livestream me want the song because I'm really
not even taking the serious. Yeah, that's how talented I am, though,
that's crazy. I wasn't even taking the series. So I

(22:11):
live streamed the whole thing. They watched me write it
when it was in the studio, the beat when you
wasn't taking the Syrians. I mean, right now I'm doing
a song, but I'm thinking, like and my head, I said, like,
this is corny girl. Yeah that was a clip. It's
not that serious. Like my my head, I'm thinking I'm
taking the tupa. I'm like, girl, that was just a
little vible clips like it was not it was not
tried that yeah serious to do no whole song about

(22:35):
this tomorrow. So I'm doing the I'm writing it. They
watched me write it. They watched me won a studio recorded.
They was picking on me in the studio because I
got the headphone song, so they can't hear the beat.
They just hear me like, oh yeah, you got quick.
I'm like, oh, y'all pick it up me in the commas.

(22:56):
Watch when it's done. So I came back out. Actually
the dance came from the studio when I started doing
I'm doing all this in the studio, organic like were
listening to me. I'm like, you gotta hold y'all mouth
everybody doing this And I made that up and store.
I was like, Okay, this is gonna be the dance show.
I'm just g I'm going I'm winging it honestly as

(23:17):
I go. So I started recording around one, Around three
three thirty, I was done. I got home around four
from the studio. My whole for You page was me
in the studio writing a song, doing the dance, and
recording in the booth. So I just reposted some of
the videos. The next day. When I woke up the
video I went back to the videos that got two

(23:39):
thousand comments. Ain't hundredrahmas seven hundredramas because it's a different
series of videos. So I'm like, oh, dude, let me
call the label. Yeah, I said, hey, baby, all that playlist.
Then you know how you be having to get playing
this away three weeks and I said, We're not doing that.
This song comes out Friday, right period. I said, we
need to get the official sound up on TikTok. We

(24:01):
uploaded the official sound on Wednesday. Wednesday, the sound had
two hundred thousand creates in one.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Day, geez heavy, you can't pay for that.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
I think when I seen it, I said, oh, got done.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
The beat is so hard, Like even how the song start,
you feel like something about to.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Happen that is so hard. It just went together so perfectly. Yeah,
so good me and Tray Brother.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
I want to say, like, aside from everything else, you're
just so talented from being able to, you know, do
all the lives.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
And be interesting and entertaining.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
But even as a rapper, yeah, like nobody could take
away from the fact that you really be killing it,
you know, and I think that's the foundation of everything.
So I want to talk about a little bit about
your journey also with that, because I saw when you
were with our friends over in Atlanta you were saying,
how your first three songs that really hit they were

(25:00):
all independent.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yes, and all of my songs, yeah, all of my
big songs besides Booty Wnato are independent, and all of
my independent songs are bigger than anything else.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
So what made you say let's sign a deal? And
do you feel like that was a good move?

Speaker 3 (25:15):
No? But I feel like, you know, I feel like
you know, when you first to be a rapper, that's
the dream, right, I want to get signed to a recollete.
I want the big I want I want the I
want the nice bonus.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
That yeah, to get extra support and take me to
the next letter.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
I can't say. I can't say without signing to a
when signed to a Masian label that helped secure my
b m AS. I performed at the VMAs I was
nomin I'm bm A, I'm being a nominated. I forgot
yes myself, I got nominated for the v m AS
I got. I performed at the BT Awards. I think

(25:58):
that was it. Everything else, really, really really what happens
like when you're that girl and you gotta hit, these
people call you, Yeah, you will be surprised. You don't
need no label. They're gonna come looking at you gotta
hit and you like just viral and stuff like that.

(26:19):
Like of course they helped, you know, and they could
get you into certain doors. But I just I just
feel like I did it. I'm thankful. I was, I
was grateful, but I feel like it really took a
bump in my music career because I had that one
hit with me and with Booty with me and Lotto,

(26:42):
everything else flopped.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
And why do you think that is.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Because it was it was not the right choice of music.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Okay, was that your decision or okay?

Speaker 3 (26:56):
And so when you sign is we want you to
be you, We want you to be yourself. We just
want to push it. We want you to do the
same thing you've been doing. Yes, Because when I came
to the label with walk Them Like a Dog with
Walk with Material Girl with you know, all of these,
all of these songs, I already had already had she

(27:18):
show with City Girls and all like I already had
here we go, cute face, a sped jump of my jeans.
I already I already had to hear. I'm like, let
me do me and y'all just back it up. And
I really feel like, because I'm such a star that
they think that you have to conform to white people.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
When we the culture right right, they come to us,
follow what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I will never forget. Sexy Red just came out. I
was like, I'm wanna do something sexy Red. They was like,
that is not rap. That is not absolutely not that
is that is not gonna work. That is no, no,
hell no, absolutely not no. She's not gonna she be
gone next week. Sexy Red who song with Justin Bieber
who got a song was right bad. All these they
can't to her. She ain't changed, She's still, She's still.

(28:09):
She's still on the stage, no shoes, all that, with
just the people. Then she ain't change. I'm I'm this
is me, you know. So I'm like all the type
of person I'm an make the play and you're gonna
eat a high a service period. So it's like, you know,
when we were coming out, when they want to release

(28:30):
these songs, I'm like, I don't think that's the right song.
They're like, oh, this is out of here, this is it.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I don't know, but try to play the game with
them and see if they knew that.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
So you release a song and it flopped, and now
I can't drop a song for four or five months
because of a song that you like. Come on, uh
uh you know? Or if you do go with a
song that you like, you don't get no support, okay,
because what makes sense. I'm investing. I'm putting my money
in what I think. You think that shit worked? Well,

(29:04):
you go out there and you do it, and if
it worked, we will say yeah, yep, that came from us.
But if it don't, if it don't bitch, that's your problem,
you know.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
You know, even with Quiet on the Creek, I saw
people doing thing pieces on what.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
That even means?

Speaker 3 (29:20):
So many big pieces. What I don't understand is the
motherfucking intro tell you what the creek? No, somebody literally
posted today.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
I'm looking on my like, as soon as I opened
six sock, I see somebody like Quite on the Creek.
Don't listen to Quite on the Creek because it's some demonic.
I said, shut out of it, like literally made me close.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
How interpret it?

Speaker 3 (29:50):
They just slow? It's so crazy because I'm like Quiet
on the Creek could go for so many.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
So many many different things about it.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Now in the song, I do describe clouding the Creek
ass being a side bitch in a verse one.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
That's the rule.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
You know you side you know with a nigga.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
He probably pay your bills, he probably got an old lady,
he probably got a wife. Be real quiet and the
Greek or you're not gonna get that allowance, so you
don't talk about so you know what I'm saying. And
the second verse I talk about dealing with a nigga
that could be a trade or dealing or dealing with
a nigga that could be internationship or in't bob and

(30:33):
you know, you know you gotta you gotta be quiet,
right So, but that was just an example in the
song that I made. You could be they could tell you, Okay,
Angela next month, we taking lip service to the next level, y'all.
Finna were finna bringing shit to l A or something

(30:55):
like that. And you're like, ooh for real and you
just holding on. You just count your blessing. You don't
want to know, you don't want to say too much
that it happens. I'm like, it could, it could, it
could go to it could go to something so many things.
Bitch you you sneaking out your mama house when we
used to go to team parties, which I used to
be got all the house. Bitch ill had to be

(31:16):
real on the break. Bitch my sleep. We tipped to
you gotta be real kind on the gree like you
know what I'm saying. Uh, we in the I g
MO out of world right now, where y'all fucking with
these athletes and these rappers and they got wives and
they got families. And when y'all go to the hotels
and they su pretty take y'all phones because y'all house
had to upload and people bathrooms and all that. You

(31:38):
gotta be real hot on the creed.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I don't know why these guys also be taking them
risks to like that, right. I feel like certain people
know you are huge. I guess it's the thrill of it.
But certain people, I'm like, you are too famous.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
I've seen something like that with that Tyler guy Tyler
and all the play with miracle with archive things and
just I'm just like, girl, put that away like you've
just seen they got married.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yes, three years ago. You don't even know where.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
It's so corny, like so corny, she should stay quite
on creek. It could be just so many different things.
You gonna see your favorite gas station in the morning.
You know you got that that that corner store that's
by your house that you go to. Real ugly, your
toes ain't done all that. I'm gonna to be real
picture y'all from New York, like y'all in the morning,

(32:30):
y'all my toes for real one lasses crookd I ain't
come to take this morning. I don't want to be
courting on real. I want to say, I'm gonna go
back home if it could go to so many things.
Why is y'all want to make it domonic and download
my download man and it's a domonica like girl, yeah
it's too loud, please be quiet for real.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
But actually I do want you to clear something up
because they was under my video about it.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
That's how you know we WinCE for real. They came
up to my ship like.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Oh, did you know that Santana reposted something with the
White House using quiet on the Creek And I'm thinking
to myself, I know it's Santana. I know he's not
Naga Saucy.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
They give.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Everything and you probably just slipped the repokes.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
But I know you were when you found out, so
it was kind of a surprise when you were like, oh,
the white somebody.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
The comments is the one who told me.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, you found out my life. So it was a shock.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
The White House, and later on I found out. I
think that maybe the White House like Bradge bakes people
or something because down that Sabrina custom out of so
I'm just lied. They're like the White House social, the
White House foster. I'm like, bitch hoo, the White House
because the White House.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
It's supposed to be a different standard than what it
is now. Yes, you think the White House.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
I'm not gonna lie for me. Obama used to stay there. Yeah,
Soma Obama Mama's house, house, not my son. So I go.
All I see is somebody riding on a on a
dirt bike and they say, y'all know chy. So I

(34:16):
reposted quick. This is in real time. That's one thing
I do love about the live stream. Bitch, don't act
like y'all going there this in real time. Trey called me,
He like, bruh, that thing you're suposted with the White
House and young I was like, oh I saw that's
a bad thing.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah you didn't know.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah. I was like, oh my bad, And I apologize
my dad.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
I think that like people think if you even we're American, right,
So the flag, people act like the flag is from
for everybody, Like the supposed to be a symbol of leadership,
but it's turned into something thinking about thinking about right now.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Thinking just think about just coming from where come from
And I didn't grow up poor or nothing, but just
being like a black gay boy fighting ten times. It's
hard to get these hits like if I was a
growl on my music would be way bigger, but we're
gonna be quiet on the creaker about that. So it's like,

(35:16):
I'm just excited. I'm excited that I got this new
hit song that's reaching, and then the White House ain't
never posted shit man. Yeah, yeah, I'm just excited. Once
I found out that they said acquired on the border
and what I found out I found out. I found
out that did I know that basically it was an

(35:38):
ice thing? Wow?

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I didn't realiz because they supposed Drake too well.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
And so I found out that. I'm like, okay, this
is a rage bait thing. So Trey called me, was like,
oh you know that's what's it. I'm like, wait what,
I'm like, absolutely not. I'm like, I'm saying that I
didn't enough. And I said this a lot. I said,
I didn't mean to offend anybody. I was like, I
was just excited that they use my song went and

(36:06):
reposted in real time, unreposted on the live, apologized, and
I went about my dang right, y'all acting like I'm
not the same bitch. That Quiet on the Creek went
viral and y'all was saying at me THEA House when
I came to y'all know that, even though even though
that I'm not Dominican dissent, that's my culture. Yeah, I

(36:29):
grew up. I grew up spending my summers in the
Spanish part of Harlem with me a WELLA and me THEA.
That's the that's the part that went by with at
me THEA House. Since when have I since way have
I been maga? Since way have I been supportive of ice?
Since when have I been Donald Trump? Any motherfucking thing where? Yeah,

(36:50):
but you know it's so crazy. After the White House
fusster me, the Democrats had their own page. The Democrats
also use quiet on the Green on their page. Yes,
but since I'm so mad, I retreated the Democrats. He
was in my thing.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Nobody said nothing.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Everybody was real. I said, Oh, so the end of
the end of that got this weird cake where they
think that they got they got any of us by
the ball able to cancel something or nobody even thinks
as long as anybody been watching me, you don't even
think that, you don't even feel.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
That, you don't get that.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
No other recent thing that went viral again was the
kids thing like the kids want to I would love for.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
You to clear that up. Okay, pull it out, get.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
The receipts, because that's how I said. People like people
like to clip what kids thing. It's a it's a
clip where I said, niggas want to fuck me, kids
want to fuck me, aunties want to fuck me, everybody,
and so they clipped it. And I think right now too,
I don't want to throw shade on nobody else situation,
but somebody else is in the here line or you
know that little megage and I'm like, that just has

(38:04):
never been my character. But at the same time, you can't.
I ain't gonna beat y'all hosts in the head about
something that y'all want. Y'all want to make y'all mind
up to believe. Yeah, so I think people forget that
even though our live stream, I'm a celebrity. So I
answer these questions on lip service. Okay, I don't got
to prop up my phone and answer no ship for

(38:25):
y'all because y'all feel like you ain't gonna address it. Yeah,
when it's time, I want to press run right now.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Okay, period.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna. I don't
want to focus on clips that people have. I want
to focus on action. Okay, this is a video in
real time. You had a little boy, he said, damn

(38:56):
that ship fat. Yeah, okay, now listen to what I said.
Oh no, go back to the beginning to miss this.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Okay, we got here one more time. Let me be
quiet on the creek.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Yeah, you're too fucking young.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Outside.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Damn that ship fat. What's your saying? Yeah, first of all,
watch them out for you two motherfucking young for that.
When have I ever gay kids? Yeah, the teeth, any
type of thing that's action. That that's in real time.
A kid to me fourteen fifteen sixteen, whatever the fuck?

(39:37):
See me walking outside of public and addressing you're like,
oh that ship fat, that's not cool. That's not okay. Listen,
you're way out of your league. Son. Don't play with me.
Don't even just let me like that. Yes, that's that.
That That's how I'm coming. I got, I got, I
got god daughters, I got nieces and nephews and that
that I'm helping raise, that's watching me. I got, I got,

(40:01):
I got, I got nephews that I'm teaching. Hey, me
and your daddy, both men, we might be two different men.
Your daddy might be one way, I might be this way,
but you're still gonna have respect, you know what I'm saying. Like,
So it's like when it when it comes to that,
it's kind of actually fucking disgusted. But at the same time,
it's like, I know how the internet is.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
And it's like it's an agenda because and I knew
that that would have upset you at that time when
that was going viral, and you haven't spoken on it yet,
so I appreciate you for clearing it up here, and
we wanted to give you the space to be able
to do that. Yeah, we've never heard nothing about Saucy.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Never you never will. And I'm just like, it's so,
it's so it's so crazy that the internet always waits
till you being champion. Yeah, oh you see what he said.
And then and now y'all trying to tangle it with
the songs the Monic and this sent the third and
it's like, that's that's never the case. But what I
want people to know that what's happening right now is God,

(41:01):
this is happening for me on purpose. This is not
nothing that y'all could strip from me. Quiet on the
Creek is not no song calling onto kids about No
this is not about no child molestation, none of that
weird ass bullshit that you'all talking about.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
The internet, Like who even thinks like that?

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Nothing about y'all saying this now because this is one
of his biggest things, like saying, and y'all want to.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Feel like we're finn take this from him. We finished
stripping from this. But y'all don't know that this saying. Look,
this is timing and this is purpose and this is
what God had destined for Saucy Santanna. I got me
another hit and I asked number forty five on Hip
hop and R and B Billboard, Like this ain't This

(41:48):
is even though I was in the studio messing around,
God was working the whole.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Time, right, So you get up and get your you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
And I'm not even like trying to be old. You
were just like, oh, gros shot though, God, you know
people get weird like that. It's like, nah, y'all just
got this just real ship and it's like it's what's
even so crazy is I've been I've been paying attention
as as much as people were trying to light a
fire to it. It's like, if you know it's none
of the major blogs even posted.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah, because it's a little ridiculous, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I'm so I'm looking at everything. I'm like, yo, this
like this is God right now in this moment, like
y'all can't take this from me. Just just just celebrate
a bad big like what I is that coming? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Because you five remixes, five cities.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, oh you've seen that. Okay, Yeah, So I have
sent the open verse out some people are people are
willing to do the remix and so I'm excited. I
can't say I sent it out to two males. They say, yeah,
so far.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
So i DK did that song with you, and I remember,
I mean, first of all, shout out to I d K,
who I love.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I got so much respect for him because he had
the same mission as me. He was like, you dope,
like and I and I and I want to work
like work with you. I don't. I don't. I don't
care what it looks like, what people think, like I
want you on a record.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Are you ever hesitant to reach out to people like
to mail rappers.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Normally? Like the normally I reach out if I see
you supported by my record or if we got a rapport.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Okay, yeah, so you said to.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Guys, they said sit in the open, and then two
girls said in the open. I had CARDI when you
But we're gonna be real quiet, I say.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
I saw she was filming in Brooklyn and.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
I supposed to meet. I supposed to meet. I don't
know Cardy coming, but I supposed to. Me and Keita
is real close. When the CARDI best friends. So I
pusted to try to link them later. But me and
Carty is like this like a lot of people don't know,
like that's like my lib between. But me and Carty
is like we so locked in, Like we text, I
check on her, We talk all the time, like that's

(44:14):
my ground.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Who would we like to see on quiet on the creek?

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Who would y'all like to see?

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Who would we like to see? I mean, I know
you and Lotto is really tight. Yeah, and she kept
her pregnancy quiet on the creek for a minute. Relationship
out she did she ate that?

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Who? So many people relationship wise, huh? Who would I
want to see on that?

Speaker 3 (44:39):
I gotta tell me who y'all think, so I can
send this one.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Jordy Joe, who are you thinking? I mean, I was
gonna say a Lotto, but I'm like, who else?

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Only because of that relationship situation, But that wouldn't be it.
We wouldn't be surprised by that. I feel like, yes,
given me.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
And a Lotto got two songs already. Miami. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
You know, relationship, your friendship is so.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
And what I love about me and y'all Miami is
it's so crazy. I'm telling you, And I don't want
to seem like just already religious. This is God. I
gotta keep saying it because y'all, y'all was just trying
to play with her. Yes, y'all was just trying to

(45:27):
play with my friends. It was and it was when
it was nobody, it was me and her. I had
to go through the revolved interview. I had to go
to Miami and check on her in real life, in
real time. I had to be there every day. I
had to go through the emotions with my best friends.

(45:47):
Sometimes it affected me. You know, if you if me
and Christians every day all day. Yeah, if I call
you every day and you said and you stressed out,
Now that energy done I'm like getting on you. So
I'm trying to be strong for the both of us.
I'm still trying to like grow fuck these that's friend,

(46:08):
She's just leave me alone. I'm like, oh my god.
And people don't know the whole time she's so strong.
She was working. Yeah, she was in that studio, she
was cutting the records, she was figuring it out, and
everybody had so much doubt. And it was like she
did tea times. Tea time was cut of fun. She

(46:31):
didn't it a flash. And then Spinnet came What I
love about spent that was that was all her. I
know people like to always say, I I'm writing her music.
I write stuff that was her idea spin that is
actually a very Florida ass record. That's what you ride
around with Daddy Brisko them bitch big brims. Like even
when it came, I says Christian that song slow in Florida.

(46:52):
Only we gonna understand that. I was like, best friend.
I don't know if the world she was like, nah,
I'm going with.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
This, this, this, this, this, that fun because when I
first heard it, I think was like, this is will slow.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Yeah, but you.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
That was my song from.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Beause she tweeted that she always she was like, I
don't know, maybe I gotta grow on y'all. Remember probably
like a car. Every time we'll be on the phone,
I'll be like blowing.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
That money fast fay cash.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
And I don't want to you a fake ass because
I said so. I just feel like God bless the
neighborhood because I was happy for my friends.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
It's key. But that's what I'm getting from both of you.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
When you do something and it's what you believe in
and people may not get it or understand it at first,
and even you didn't understand your own song at first,
but it's just like.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Something is given to you as a gift from God.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Yes, I was happy, like that was my song. I think,
what's so yeah, let's do it. Let's what's so crazy
is even now when I'm going to my concerts or
when I'm doing stuff, people introduced me to spend that
and then they played crowd on the Greek Like when
I just went to the Angelies Barbie basketball game, when
I was coming to my seat, they was playing spin
that and then when they show me on the big

(48:20):
screen they play period. So I'm like, I just love
it and I'm and I'm glad that we were able
to be in a winning season together. The time the
same time y'all seeing her number four on iTunes and
mean number five, I was gaggy.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
That's so fire.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
And y'all grew up together, bay No, well you didn't
make up yet make up and you were so close
that you would think we grew up like girl, I
just make a whole way.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Crazy and look at y'all now.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Now I gotta ask you some more questions because they
said still lift service period.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
So listen.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Previously you had said that at some point you want
to get married to a woman and have kids. Is
that still a thing or do you feel like that
you straight away.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
From that.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Up up Brianna.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
I know I already have Brianna, y'all already you know
tight like that, so you woul't really do that.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Brianna was like the first girl I fell in love with,
I was obsessed with. She was like my chcolate Barbie
killing me right now, I just feel like, you know,
like grow what should just get? Oh, it's like grew up?
Was like girl kid, I sitting down, but it's.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Like it's one thing to have, Like okay, like a surrogate,
but you're really talking about like getting maddling girls sitting there, Matt,
wasn't I think I could probably, like.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
You think I could. You know what I'm saying, what
what's something you know done out here being being a
young I answer to.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Me this because we've heard from people that on social
media that you ain't never really had.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Sex for real? Is that true?

Speaker 3 (50:08):
I never had sex?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
What you mean like that, you're not really like you know,
like we've heard people say, oh, we haven't had an
intimate relationship. It's more like a you don't be fucking
thank you cleo, Like, let me get to that, you're
not even drigging shots with me.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
I'm I'm gonna say people, I'm gonna say y'all probably
heard that from two instances, but those are real relationships.
So we're like, oh, they was, and I think and
I think too, that's kind of like why I'd be
having these niggas by the balls, because it's like, you know,

(50:49):
a nigga could fuck you and get on our nigga
could hit you with don't care nothing about I in
these niggas brain, and I me in these niggas hard spitch,
so you know, I have had two relationships where I
ain't fuck the nigga I got. I got. I got.
Actually a lot of a lot of my niggas that
I talked to that I never had sex with them either,

(51:13):
But I got some niggas that's like, girl, you could
miss me with all that hell you're getting cracked, you
know what I'm saying. And I'm not gonna lie. A
lot of a lot of my sexual relations is you know,
real hot on the creek. Okay, because I'm famous at
the end of the day, are you are you niggas
do on the service celebrity learn how to keep them up,

(51:34):
but you're not hell out. I'm trying to spell my tea,
but she gets cracked, babe. And but the thing I
love about it is the niggas that know, they know
and and and they real hot on the creek about it.
They sit back and laugh like they be like, man,

(51:55):
these crazy I'm cracking out the reason your wings?

Speaker 1 (52:01):
But what about other types of intimacy? Then, like what
else are you doing?

Speaker 3 (52:06):
So if you're not fucking sucking, Oh, y'all want to
know my ts?

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Yeah, because we want to know your teas.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
I mean, if I'm being honest. I don't really like
ain'tle sex like that. Like I feel like I told
you all that the last time girl, that ship hurt
and it's aggravating and all that.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
But you know what I'm saying, like, I don't know,
if you do it more, don't hurt as much.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Yeah, for my boyfriend, I will, like if I'm in
the relationship, then it's like boy come out and just
like coming on. You know what I'm saying, it's getting
baked with.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
What somebody small Maybe you need some.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Yeah, I'm a bitch that I really like, you know,
I really like or room what you called what they
called me, like, uh okay, I really get the niggas master, Yes,
I get. I get. I get the niggas that like the.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Please meet like a sub okay, okay, like a sub
what's like when you're dominant submissive?

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah, submissis I'm submissive, but and you dominant?

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Yeah, I just laying there okay, position Like I get.
I get the niggas that like to please me just
be aroused, you know, from like you're just so bad,
you're just so that.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
It's like that's my thing. And I like trans men.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Okay, and no you get your boy friend last year
I remember so like fully transitioned or still.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Are you? You know what it is? You just.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
You are you are as because marry a woman, you
like trans men like you like?

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Okay, but I'm not gonna lie. Don't because because because
people because sometimes gables are we trying to do the
fake by sexual agenda thing. I'm not bisexual like like
y'all baddies, real give it.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Okay, all right, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, we're
not sucking like.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Stopped like like trans man that like I dated, even
like a nigga. Yeah he got growl height. I ain't
gonna lie, like god like, let me get into that.
I like, you don't know you think okay, but then

(54:36):
you can see that you can't clock him helo a nigga,
right yeah yeah period, although yeah it ain't like all
the time.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
So you miss slick. Okay. So there's a possibility you
like to circle, you like to spend the block.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Get back, I lie, I'm getting back in.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
I'm getting back you'd like to spend the copy right.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Here, I'm getting back in that car. I just I
just I just see you sleep. Okay, So on one
of my shows, listen, I feel.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Like you messy because I feel I'm looking at ship,
like who's coming to this show Houston and they beefing
over you? Like who would you pick from your exes
if you had to get back with somebody?

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Who would you pick?

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (55:28):
None of them? I ain't gonna lie, good.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Answer, Slay you lit up for Slick. I ain't gonna
lie Slick.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Cool people like you know what I'm saying, Like, I just,
I just I have I have a bond like with
my niggas. I think I think that's a lot of
times why Like a lot of the people that I
dy have been for years, Like right now people are
like a lot of people it's upper arms about my hairstylist.

(55:58):
But it's like they don't know that I've date him
since twenty twenty one, you know, on and off. We
got a bond. We respect each other. We just got
to understanding. But he's not a new character. He's all
of y'all. All.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
So maybe that's who you'll end up with. I mean,
he out there, but you know, does he ask you
this when it comes to business and pleasure? Then does
he charge you?

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Yeah? But it's not it's not that it's not that
he charged me, it's that I pay him because I
respect his craft. I respect his hustle.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
You know this your this is your job. I don't
pay what everybody else pay.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
But you're not like going to be like your hairstylars.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
I'm not like I wouldn't pay my nigga asself.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
We I'm not paying for we.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Yeah, I mean, but you got to respectcause he's traveling.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
But it's like, you know what I'm saying at the
end of the day, Like he got a kid, like
you know, doing all this and you like and fix
your hair. You know what I'm saying. I respect his hustle,
I respect his grind, I respect his journey. So you
know what I'm saying, I want to be a part
of his success.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
But if he give you an ultimatum, what like, I'm
tired of this ship. I'm traveling with you doing your head.
We've been off and off for years.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Uh huh. Sometimes sometimes he be playing.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Sometimes though, what if he dates somebody else, that would
that bother you? Heah, didn't bother you.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
I was saying somebody else at the time. Okay, So
it's like, you know what I'm saying, We just we
we we we got we got history, and we gotta
and we gotta and we gotta understand this. So he
respects me. I respect him.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Can you talk to him about your relationships? Yes, because
you know that's what we do with our hair status.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Yes, yes, like we got that. We just we just
got that bond. And it's like nobody can't fuck with
and I think nobody don't really like sometimes people don't it,
but we do.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Okay, period, you living your best life period, I like.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
And it's nice to have people around you that's working
and getting paid that you actually like. Yes, I think
that's like the key to success in life. Like what
makes you feel good about it is when you can
have people around you that you like being around you,
you doing what you love, and everybody's making money.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
That's like the ultimate.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
I love it. It's fun. It's like, you know, well
we just we we we we we been here, like
we got a lot of love, a lot of janeuine history,
and so it's just like a thing where I think,
like now with this TikTok shit, everybody we just so
I'll tell you. People think it's a TV show, right,
so they're like, ooh, new character, Locke, you got kids

(58:44):
something like baby I can from twenty twenty one? Like
what are you talking about? Your fucking gang? He's got
a new character characters like for real, Like he's just
he's just so playing soap fine on the creek. He
had his business, he'd be about his business and he
don't do too much. Like that's not that's notice, that's
not you get niggas. Listen everything like you get niggas.

(59:09):
Rich is always trying to we're trying to play me
like I'll be like playing I just really mean, I
just really be keen, like i'd be like gro okay,
like whatever y'all think thin. I'm paying niggas, witch niggas.
The niggas come off that check about the motherfucking queen.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Bitch.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
I could go down the line, bitch, I promise.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
You, what's the best if you ever got.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
I ain't gonna lie that that crocodile working. I ain't
gonna ain't with the rocky Okay, I mean, but I
bought one after that we brought up and I bought
my own. So it's like I kind of and I
kind of want to kill the stereotis too. I know
that's how I rap and that's how I talk. But

(59:50):
when you're looking for love and you looking for real relationships,
everything is not about money. Because I got money. I
got more money than any nigga that I dated.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Ship could would you be okay with? And this is
one of our questions. I know Jordy you had this,
would you be okay with dating the brokie?

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
No? So what's the the bottom? Like, what's the I
can't date noro nigga?

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Could could? I? Could I date a nigga that maybe
ain't got it, but he got a hustle? Yes, because
I have seen what a hustling motherfucker could.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Do, especially somebody who's hustling for you, like helping you
get How do you feel about somebody that's like maybe
you know you start dating them and then they start
getting intertwined in your business kind of helping you get bookings?

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Would you like that?

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
You need to have your own business, don't you some
real money? Like I got a whole team. Hey babe,
I got what is you talking about? Get your own business? Hell?
Do your own in too much of mimmy gage? Like

(01:01:06):
have your own, have your own thing. I respect a
hustling motherfucker that's gonna get up every day and yeah, yeah,
you want to be able to do for me. But
you doing this shit for yourself. You're doing this shit
because it's in your blood, is in your DNA, because
you because you got bills to handle, because you got
responsibilities as a man. I want to get up and
I want to work and I want to grind. I'm
gonna always respect that period. But just Dan and the
broken nigga that's just broke and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Just needs somebody ambitious. Yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Gotta have that ambition. Dann a nigga that's just broken
looking on Instagram and he won't go y'all knowledge like
you'll do whatever they get two thousand dollars ago about
your go y'ard racking and you back broken, but you
got a pitch your ig like il All right, listen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
We have this thing we call from the Feed, So
I'm gonna ask you what you think about these things
that's happening on social media. Okay, all right, So somebody
posted my now ex boyfriend won twenty five hundred dollars
in the lottery and didn't give me a dime, so
I broke up with him.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
What she said?

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
She said, that nigger, he won twenty five hundred dollars
in the lottery and didn't give her no money, So
she broke up with him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Twenty five hundred twenty. She said, Mind you, it was
never about the money.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
It was the principal because if I would have won
twenty five hundred, I would break off some bread with him.
He could have gave me one hundred dollars and I'd
be happy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Girl, that boy had to give you no money. You
don't think I was twenty five hundred dollars. That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Like I can do stuff for you every day. Oh,
it doesn't sound like it does.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
It does sound like he does.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
She if she even had to ask.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Damn, I had to buy I need to go buy
w because I do. How many weeks I watch you?
Don't I pay your bills? Don't you get said? Don't
you get what you want? Whatever you want? The rag? Yeah,
the time, the time, niggas that a second he came
three K. I'm like, bit, you just won three thousand dollars,
give me that boy? Will you come? It's fine? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
So that wouldn't bother you. No, okay, you have yours.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Well, he kind of incident over. Okay, he had twenty
five million dollars, the figure of you don't see me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
You'll see me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
That was about the amount, because I still think she said,
it's just the principal a hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
You could have been like here, get your nails done
something that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Anyways, it didn't. You probably just gave me one hundred
dollars a day before.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
She's yes, all right, Jordie, Joe, you happened, Oh mine was?
So did you see that the woman married herself for
her fiftieth birthday? She gave herself a whole wedding, ceremony, everything.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Desperado sitting in self.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Well, she didn't really marry herself, but she had a
weddings down the mile and had a ceremony for six years.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
That's not like say self love. That's not like a
self love to.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
I guess, yeah, she's celebrating her fifty years on the
birth Okay, it's her birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
It was a birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Okay. I don't see the marriage, but but I can
respect the self love celebrating me. This niggas, I'm fifty
and they ain't. No one of your niggas ain't got
it right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's again.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
I'm gonna turn up with you in the city.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
That was an episode because she was upset that she
kept on going to baby showers, brider showers, buying everybody gifts.
And then she's like, I would like to have my
own registry for you to buy me some gifts.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Exactly, No, lady, what does.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
She mean her registry?

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
That would make no sense on just wait for your
birthday for some gifts.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Oh yeah, it was her birthday, so yeah, she had
her own like type of wedding situation.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
She got some shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
You want to get to whatever?

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Hold on this, make shok you about it? Here? You
do I want to get married?

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Not no time soon?

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
And would you propose?

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Yeah, I can't see that you like.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
See, that's why I need to go. That's why I
got a white tie. Don't get me like a little
girlfriend or something, because I damn shame.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
For girlfriend though, for real, I keep saying that I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Just South lost.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
I don't see it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Yeah, saying that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Because you don't like women, you're not gonna sleep with her.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Everybody grows to it. No, have you ever heard have
you ever slept with a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Quiet on the green?

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
You ain't gonna lie. I slid my home grun. I
already kind of asked us though, because we was really
trying to take this bigger than okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
So it was like situation.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
It was like, all right, I'm gonna do a little
one to wish you, just to make the nigga feel comfortable.
But don't she started taking it too far.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
She was liking it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Yeah, she has started doing a little she was grabbing that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
I said, oh okay, yes, I was con Did he
jump and I started doing like back and cheese and
all that was away supposed to be turning turning out?

(01:06:19):
Wait a minute, So it was like a little quick
like a little one two or whatever the case is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Did he join in? Did it work?

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Boy? He was just sitting there was a flop and
we didn't even take the nigger down. But you know,
I felt like if Ibab would have tried again, it's like, okay,
but you at least ahead and watch. You ain't all
the way all the way all the way, yeah, but
but you enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
So that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
I mean, I had sex with trance many foul.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
H yeah, as we know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Yeah, I can't wait to see who you're gonna end
up with real, yes, this is it coulda be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
You can end up with a trans man, you can
end up with a woman, you can end up with
another man.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
You can like that's a libra. We saw a decisive yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
But you know what, I love the fact that you
have a wide open fit.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Okay to choose from. And when did you decide?

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
Though? I feel like you just recently decided to start
doing the wigs and stuff, which is cute and give
us new Ever, so I was slaying.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
What's soar, CRISI is? I've been wearing a wig since
like two thousand sixteen, twenty seventeen. I was the first
person in my city to have like the three sixty
frontals back in the days, and then I used to

(01:07:47):
only wear hair for virality. I feel like every now
and again I will put on a wig and feel beats.
Anytime I put on a wig, I'll be on the
shade road. Let me put on a wig.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
And then I think when I was your hairdressing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
No, no, no, I think it was even so crazy
with that, like he been doing hair, but he just
recently became like my man hair person. But I think
it was when I was on House Arrast and I
was in the house, I didn't have ship to do,

(01:08:31):
and I was like, I have nothing to do. I
had nothing to do but be on Live, and so
I just started getting I had an I had, I had,
I had a and then it just became I think it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Witch stupid, But you also got the signature be you.
Nobody got a bed like that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
And and what's so crazy is I would never cut
my beard off.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
Don't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
No, don't though, And you grow more though.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
No, Like now, when I when I look at me
like older like pictures and I see how I think
it was, I'm like, no, I still like the beer.
But it have to be there. It have to be
that think and it have to be that that much
to me, gauge like, I like it how it right now,
how it is, It's perfect, you know what I'm saying.
But my beard is me, yeah, And I think that's

(01:09:35):
it also speaks values because a lot of people think
that I want to be a girl, or I want
to be I think that I'm a bobbie, or I
want to be trans and That's one of the reasons
why I grew my beard. Back when I was eighteen,
I did think I wanted to be trans for my
eighteenth birthday, I had when I had a bunch of wigs,

(01:09:56):
I had bras, I had panties, I had all girl clothes,
and I aint gonna lie girl. It took like two weeks.
I was like, girl, I'm just cutting, like I'm just
me though, like I'm growley some days, I'm grolly, some
days boyish, like right now, I got the face to
be with the yellow bob, but I got on the
whole boy outfit, like you know what I'm saying, I'm

(01:10:20):
just me. So it's like I was like, hey, I
don't want to be a girl or I don't want
to be transd I'm just sorry. One day I want
I want, I want to fade and the haircut in
the sweatsuit. The next day, bitch, I'm in the skirt
in high heels like it is what it is. And
I remember, I'm not gonna lie though when I used

(01:10:42):
to when I did cut my facial hair off and
I used to have like a hair cut. My hair
is to be dyed like blonde or orange and all
this Becasian stuff and like niggas to be trying to
talk to me, and then when they caught my teeth,
Dad give me. I'm like, you getting mad at me
because you thought, like you know how some girls like
have the ball head. Look, I'm like, you're mad at

(01:11:04):
me because you're thinking with your bird. Why be thinking
with your motherfucking head. They tell you to come over
here trying to talk to me. I just tell you
to sit, no drinks, I ain't tell you to down,
I ain't tell you no horn. That's what you did.
Shape And so it's like, you know, I was like,
I really my beer started to let people know that

(01:11:28):
I'm a boy. I don't care how pretty. I don't
care how big. I don't care how long the nails is.
I don't care how many bbls. I don't act like
you don't know, don't act like you don't like you know.
So it's like it's just it's just it's it's I
feel like, in a way, it's my time to sell
samm a man, because even like sometimes in different paces,

(01:11:52):
I mean, people refer to me as she.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Sometimes you refer to yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
But it's like if I'm I'm gonna from myself as
she a material girl out of that, like you know,
kidd around people. Bill, Well, that has to be like,
excuse me, get out of her way.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Okay, you're like, I'm selling the men's bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Yes, but you will see a transgender girl and be like,
oh let him do what what? What? So how was
a transgender girl? He her what she transformed? But you'll
see me a visible man and i'm her and she
off the bed. Yeah, bitch please. So it's like, you know,

(01:12:44):
I love my beer and it's just it just it
just represents that I'm still a man at the end
of the day, a.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Well endowed man. Right, buzzing and open. Well, listen, so
you know I always love having you up here.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
We gotta see you a y but Cleo, I'm so
glad that listen. Cleio loves you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
So I was, this was a perfect Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
I was like, you gotta so good. So we have
to really get into them.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
It okay, mug.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Get it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
But we're are so happy for you. Quiet on the
creek and there's an EP coming right or a project?
What's happening now?

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
You gotta keep on. I'm so well well, I'm just
I thank God for timing because I was already working
on my album. So I'm glad that I already have
eight songs solidifyed. I just feel like I need maybe
like three or four more.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Okay, so it's a full album.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
What you gonna call it to be real cud of
a Greek girl. But yes, I'm excited. It's it's uh
eighty eighty percent done and I think it's gonna it's good.
I'm gonna I'm I'm having fun with this and I'm
just I'm just doing me. So I'm glad that my

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project is almost like ready because my schedule is so busy.
So I'm like, you know, it's like normally what your
what your teams and stuff in your labels, when you
had that momentum, they be ready for you to drop
it out. Yeah, I'm just glad that I ain't gotta
start from scratch. I'm like, okay, we got me a hit.
Oh boo. I was already working on my ship ready
to go.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Do you know when it's coming out?

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
I'm aiming for it's we're in August right now. I
want to take this month, not even a full month.
I want to take these next couple of weeks to finalize.
I actually got studio in twelve and the thirteenth. What's
that Thursday? I studio? So I want to take maybe

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the next two or three weeks to finalize, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
I think October is a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Was my birthday? Libor? Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Can we do that?

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Y'all went in October? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
I think October is good. It's right before like the
major holidays. But it's also a lot going on at
that time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
Okay, I can say, y'all is getting another song before the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Okay, whoa an, no more spoilers.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
And I think the features and the remix.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
It's gonna be remixes, is gonna be features. And I
talk about my real life.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Okay, I'm liking it already.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Get into that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Real life is good?

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Yes, I get it. I get into some ship.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
I can't. I see we should have heard we like
we like to clock the tea.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
But that's one thing I love about music though, like
a lot of times people be like, why you don't
respond or why don't girl? It's gonna be a ensemble,
that's the flat back said.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Well, we can't wait because I see Santana. Ever since
you burst out on the scene, it's been non stop
and I love that period and you ain't changed.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
I love that I'm the same bitcht a whole around
Diamonds dancing on me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Jud the Brown, Hello, we can trust you with all
our secrets, anybody in them, damn. Just know it's quiet
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