Mona Scott-Young: The Woman Behind Your Favorite Reality TV Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But I remember talking to him and he was like,
you're not going to make it out there on your own. Yep. Wow.
I think he doubted that I could go out there
and have the same level of success, and so I
was like a word I was gonna say. That had
to fuel you watch, you know, like, thanks for watching, guys.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Today's episode is brought to you by Boost Mobile for
managing many many artists mister Elliott bust the rhymes, running
the ship at Violator, to creating, of course, the iconic
love and hip Hop franchise.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Welcome mon It's Got Young to the world podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Thank you, oh Mona, thank you for having me. I'm
excited about this for many reasons.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh wow. Well one because we go so far.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
So far back, and it's interesting to think of how,
you know, when you have many iterations of your career,
people see you, oh, that's from love and hip Hop,
and I'm like, yes, but that's also.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Mona from I go around all the time saying I
did not hatch from a love and hip hop egg,
because you know, especially when you're talking about the kids,
as they say they have no idea and it's always
like this big surprise to them that I did anything
before love and hip hop. I hope the kids get
to know you a little bit differently today. I hope
so too. As we go into the files. First of all,
she's fresh off a red eye. Not to mention, Tyrene

(01:26):
was wearing me out to manager mode exactly. I had
to get into manager mode. Are you managing him? Now?
I am? I'm managing him, and then we're partnering on
a lot of things because at this stage of my life,
management was like do I really want to go down
that rabbit hole? I mean, it's what I do naturally
right all day, every day, and that's what I always
say when I'm producing or interacting, you know, you get

(01:50):
the benefit of. But it's not what I wanted to
kind of jump back into head first. I don't even
know how it happened with Tyrese. It was one of
those things you know when you're dating, you know, and
you're like, well, why did I fall in love with
this person and not all these other people? What was
it right? And you just don't know. It was that
kind of thing. Like I've sat with so many people
that were like, would you be interested in managing? I'd

(02:12):
love for you to manage and I'm just like, no, no,
you know, like I'll help you because I feel like
anything I can do to help someone on their journey,
I'm always happy to do that. But I don't want
it to be official. I don't want you having a
license because it's like a full relationship. What it is
a full relationship. And it's funny because, as a matter
of fact, I really had to get my husband's signing

(02:37):
on this one because we're at the point the kids
are gone, we're empty nesters. This is supposed to be
the you know, the golden years, and here I was
taking on not just anyone, but Tyrese because you said
in the first two minutes, you know, oh, this is
a lot in a good way. But he's a lot.

(03:00):
You know, he's so energet everything is big, everything is
you know.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, it's so funny you even saying that we
were all over the place where it'll come full circle.
But even you saying that, it's reminding me of I
don't know this quote that Chris Lighty. I was in
a room one time and I heard Chris Lighty said
this is someone and I always it was always a
reference point for me for managers. He said being a
manager is the most thankless job because you could do

(03:26):
something incredible for an artists, set them up.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
They have this big shot.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Everybody says how great it is, and everybody says how
great the artist is.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
It's something that you put together. But God forbid one
thing and that goes wrong. Oh, it's all yours. It's
the manager's want. You get all. You get all the
credit at that.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
So you don't get the glory, yes, but you do
get the problems and anything that goes wrong falls on
your lap.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
And I don't know. I heard him say that, and
I never I had never heard about that, right, I
said all the time. And that was part of why
I think I've been so reluctant then, because I love managing,
mainly because I feel again I say it all the time,
it's in my DNA, Right, I see talent, I see
the potential, and automatically my brain starts to put the

(04:14):
pieces together, even if it's some shit I have nothing
to do with, it's not even my client. And I'm
sitting there. I go to a concert, I'm like, oh, yeah,
they could have done. Oh I wonder if they've ever
thought about that, because that's just the way my brain works,
and I think the gratification of for me is in
whatever part I played in that end result. Right when

(04:35):
they talk about it being a thankless job. Honestly, Tyres
will tell you I am so uncomfortable with the effusive
gestures of because your attitude decades of what you saying,
thank you, what you know? And he's very much like
I'm coming to pick you up at the airport, sir,

(04:56):
I've got you know. But he does that stuff, and
for him it's a small way of showing gratitude, which
doesn't make me uncomfortable. It's more like, what, like, what
are you doing making me uncomfortable? Right exactly? But for me,
it's really about knowing that there was this idea in
the back of their brain, there was this dream that

(05:18):
they had this thing that they wanted to accomplish, and
understanding that ooh, I know how to make this happen,
and then seeing that thing happen and understanding what it
does for them and their sense of you know, accomplishment.
It sounds poinny, but I promise you that for me
is the gratitude that for me is the gift that

(05:39):
for me is the payoff, right, even if they never
say thank you. I know you know you know what
I'm saying. I know how much this means to you.
I know how badly you wanted this thing. I know
how incredible it is for you to experience this dream
that you've had and that you know is what fuels me.
That's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, I think I want to go I want to
fast forward and then go back because I think I
do want to land at some point and how you
make that transition from somebody who was because management is
really it's a service business, right, I mean it's it's
a grand services but it's no but it is still
I used to say, we're highly paid babysitters and assistance
and yeah, yeah, but at some point you transitioned to

(06:24):
become I always tell the Brittany about this for herself too.
It's like who Brittany manages my day to day and
the pod and everything, And I'm always like, make sure
you have like some main character energy going on.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
And at some point, I.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Feel like that transition happened for you where you started
to kind of become the main character. And I do
want to get to that. But before we do that,
I do want to reintroduce to people where you come
from and the roots of that, because okay, you managed Missy.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, you know, when we had Violator, which you know,
that story is always whenever I tell it, I'm like, wow,
it's been a life, you know. But we at the
time when we had Violator managed everyone that was anyone
and the hey Day who the hey Day West rhymes
Missy Elliott mob deep tribe called quest over the years, Fantasia,

(07:19):
Mariyah Carry, Yes, I thought I'd said it, but yes,
Mariya Maxwell, oh gee. And then you know, we had
violated records where there was Warrangy and Foxy Brown and
did I say ella cool j It felt like ce
loo Jesus. There was so many artists that you know,

(07:41):
came in and out of the Violator doors. But our mainstay,
right was Busta and Missy and ll fifty. They were
kind of our core tribe, right, They were the core
artists that we had. Yeah, and then two thousand and
five I had the ability to because the artists started growing,

(08:03):
they wanted to do other things. And what was happening is,
you know, other managers will come in and want to
manage their acting careers or you have.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
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Speaker 1 (09:37):
How are you even in a position to have violator?
Oh you want to go all the way back? Yeah?
Like I want those chances. Okay. So the early, early,
earliest moment was me walking into Broadway Dance Center. Right,
the Broadway Dance Center is the studio on fifty something Street.
It was a dance end because I wanted to take

(09:58):
an aerobics class. Right, that's I'm going to tell you
the long story. So I went in there, I took
the rogues class. I was leaving the class, I heard
this music coming out of a room. I picked my
head in. They had these three beautiful women. They were,
you know, in the class conducting the class. One of
them in particular was in the lead and there was
a microphone and there was a class of people behind,

(10:18):
and they were like taking them through what looked like
a routine, right, And it turned out that there was
this one by the name of Robin Dunn. She and
her sisters had a company called Don Tori and what
they did was a class called Stage Moves, and it
taught artists how to project, hold the microphone, you know,
deliver a performance. So I was like, oh, that looks

(10:39):
like fun. I think I could do that, and I
went and took the class. And you're whole old dancing
Huh you're how old? Eh? Jesus every twenties I must
have been. Let me think, if I do the math
real quick, I had to have been around. We're not
gonna fact check it. No, no, no, no, no, I'm being cactual.
It had to have been about twenty five, right, What

(11:00):
were you doing that? What was your job? Oh? Shoot,
I was working for a placement firm that placed graphic
designers Ros Goldfarb and associates. Shout out to Ros and
the ladies there. But I'll tell you about the impact
that that had. It was an all female run company, right,
and this woman Ros Goldfarb, she was a powerhouse. But she,

(11:23):
you know, had all of these graphic designers and you know,
desktop publishers that she represented. And I was the office manager.
And that's not bad at twenty nine. Yeah, yeah, I
was doing that at twenty fouse. You were smart, right,
you must have been smart. You know what. I have
been working since I was Jesus fourteen fifteen, right. I

(11:44):
became an emancipated minor at fifteen, so I was kind
of on my own. I was living in Saint Paui
in the Virgin Islands at the time, and I was like, yeah,
I've done everything there is to do on this island.
I'm ready to go. I was fifteen, by yourself, by
myself and my sister. My older sisters lived in New York. Still,
because I grew up in New York, a lot of
people think I came from a small village in Haiti.

(12:05):
That was the story that my my agent came up
with for the press release. She thought it would make
more sense now. But I used to live in New York.
I grew up in New York, was born in Manhattan,
grew up there. We moved around a lot. I lived
in Canada, Puerto Rico, Saint Croix. We landed in Saint Croix,

(12:26):
and when I turned fifteen, I was like, I'm good.
You know, why are you moving around with your parents?
My mother she just like looking for a better life,
trying to find different situations. She was married to this
Puerto Rican man who is my younger brother's father, and
so we lived there with his grandmother. That's where I
learned how to speak Spanish, watching the telenovelas you know,

(12:48):
and because Romeo Santo shout out to Romeo Santos Naventura.
But you know, we didn't have an antenna, so or
we could watch was Spanish TV. So I learned how
to speak very dramatic Spanish, right because of the soap operas.
You watch it. I'm watching soap Propers. I'm nine years
old watching so so then where was I St Croix? Fifteen?

(13:13):
I decided I'd had it. I remember so vividly being
at the airport and my mother calling the police. On
me because they were just like, you know, she's fifteen,
she's trying to go to New York to be with
her sisters. And I was like, I declare myself an
emancipated minor. I did. I did it? How did you
even know you could do it? I was smart, you know,

(13:33):
so you googled? How do I Well they didn't have
Google back then, all right, right, exactly, so encyclopedia, yes,
literally shut up finding information? Calling you know, how do
you accept yourself free? You know, because my mother was
very and listen thinking about it now, ridiculous, right, and
fifteen is crazy. I am lucky that I did not

(13:56):
get sex trafficked, right, But she was at the airport
when I got on the plane. But I always worked
the little aud ends here and there, so I'd saved
the little money, bought my ticket, and I was coming
to live with my sister. So but got a little
day job here and there, odds and ends. Was still
going to school. I went to park Was High School

(14:16):
in fiftieth Street, just reporting for duty every day at
school and then going to work and realizing at a
very early age that I am not cut out to take,
you know, direction, and I loved coming in and exploring
the possibilities right starting out as oh, you're a cashier today.
Oh today, I'm a key card holder, tomorrow I'm an

(14:37):
assistant manager, and just moving up the ranks and then
going okay, been there, done that, it's been two weeks.
Ready to move on. So moved around a little bit,
and then when I turned eighteen, I graduated high school
seventeen going on eighteen, and then had to make that leap, like,
you know, am I gonna try college or am I
really ready to kind of go out there on my own,

(14:59):
get my own place. That means I'm going to have
to work full time, so I don't have your parents
because you don't have your parents well, you know, And
the relationship at that point was still a little bit
strained with my mom. I mean, we have this intense
like adoration and love and she is everything, you know,
She's responsible for everything that I am today. But at

(15:20):
that age, you know, I'm feeling my sense of independence
and I want to be able to live out on
my own. So we were kind of touching gull at
that point. But yeah, so I moved out of my sister's,
got my own little apartment, in Jersey City and started
working full time. I went to college for one semester.
I went to City College one semester and was like, oh,
this is hard. I can't do them both right. And

(15:43):
I've always been like an autodidac, just self taught. You know,
I'm very curious. I read a lot. I'm very you know,
I voraciously take in information. So yeah, I felt like
I was grown. I had what I needed to make
it in the world. Now, when I look at my
daughter and my son at that age, I'm like, oh, please,

(16:04):
Jesus Christ, what the hell was I thinking? But I
also think we were much more mature back then because
we had no choice to be and we didn't have
everything handed to us the way they do now, not
in terms of life. I'm talking information right everything. Yeah,
you had too. We had to go and figure out
all of the Department of We were a lot more
resourceful with less access. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, you would

(16:27):
think now with all the access, they'd be more resourceful.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
No, it comes to easy, exactly. Yeah, I get this
to easy.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
So then how does managing artists happen? Oh shit, I
went left on that story, all right, So where were
we fast forward, I'm back at the dance studio. So
I started doing that, found my natural aptitude in life
because I love to dance, and then started teaching the
class that brought me in proximity with the artists that
they would have taken the class because then they would

(16:54):
also do privates with clients and stuff. And through that work,
I started working with a group called the Eighteen, and
the eighteen were signed to Select Records. You remember Selectors,
they were under chub Rock. And I started working with
those guys and they were produced and signed to the
track Masters, and then the track masters just watching me
work with those guys, you know, on a daily basis

(17:16):
and again doing whatever needed to be done to make
my life easier, they were like, have you ever thought
about managing? And I'm like, I don't even honestly, until
I come into this class every day, I don't even
listen to the radio, you know. So we started kind
of doing that dance of me figuring out what that
looks like, and then they asked me to manage them. Right,

(17:38):
and these were early days, four guys out of Brooklyn,
super talented but hadn't really made their mark yet. Right,
They were still kind of grinding. I met Chris Lidy
through them because one of the artists that I worked
with was chi Ali and Black Sheet Oh wow, Yeah,
which were all part of you know, that extended crew

(18:01):
that they had going on. And then I started managing
the track masters whatever the hell that meant. Back then,
reading again Donald Passman's Everything you need to know about
the music industry, you know, asking questions. But then fast
forward after you know, a couple of years of grinding
with the guys, we worked on everybody from like Mary's
album so for real, Jesus Heavy d everybody Usher Baby.

(18:28):
You know, this was before Steeps Out came in and
started managing. Because after a couple of years of doing that,
and the song started to hit and the popularity started
to hit, and unfortunately the guys decided to go their
separate ways. I was actually getting ready to go to Atlanta,
right and then Chris was like, you know what I've
been doing, Rush, We're about to go over to do

(18:49):
Violator and Deaf Jam. You should just come and help
me through the transition. And then I was like, Okay, well,
what's going to happen with all these artists, Busta and
all the and he was just like hmm. I was like, well, shit,
you know, I'm a manager now, even though I still
didn't know what the hell I was doing. And that's
how we started Violator Management because at the time there
was only violated records.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Well I didn't know that, So Chris wasn't even management
was not on his radar.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Because he had violated records. Foxy was hitting. He was
also the president of def JAM. He had his hands full. Yeah,
so he was just like, run with it, you know.
And yeah, I took over this little closet in the building.
Leor didn't even know I was there every day. I
was just operating, you know, like the phone. I had
my own phone line. I'd been like crazy Violator management.

(19:35):
And Lio knows it because we talked about it. And
one day he called and got put through that to
that line and I was like Violator management. He was like,
who the fuck is this? Oh shit, you know, and
he came around that corner busting open that door. He
was like, who are you? Like literally had started a
whole little company under their noses. That's just unbelievable. Yep,

(20:04):
so were you you in chased? Were then partners? And yeah,
management because I just started the management company, so then
it came into it as partners. Yeah, I never you
know this all the time. I didn't know that is
so funny.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
I thought he was already operating and then sought you
out and then somehow you the two of you.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Because remember there was Rush, so if you look at
Buster was a leaders of you know, leaders of the
New School. So this was musta going solo when we
got it, took him under violators when there was trib
called quest mob Deep they were all at Rush. Yeah,
so Rush disbanded, you know, I don't know what year
it was, at ninety five ninety six. So like me, Mona,

(20:41):
you were probably often the only woman in the room,
very often. The only way how did you manage that?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
So different now right to how we kind of maneuver me.
I never thought people would ask me that question, what.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
About all those times you were the I didn't even
I never thought twice about it because of my own headspace,
you know what I'm saying, Like I was so in
grind mode, it didn't even occur to me. First of all,
I always say I go through life not putting limitations

(21:13):
on myself. Right, So if you start to think about
I'm a woman, I'm the only woman. You start to
create your own box that you start to box yourself in.
So I tried my best not even to think in
those terms, right, and so I would just be in
it constantly. Now what is interesting looking back, right, And
I don't know if you ever had this experience. I
did realize that there was kind of the girls, and

(21:39):
then there was the women who was just doing it
that was like one of the dudes, right, But then
there were the girls that you they were in the business,
but somehow it was a different vibe they were around them, yes, right,
And so I'm like, I was like, why didn't I
get Why was it I in that, you know? And
I guess it was because my own mentality. I just

(22:02):
it was all about the work. I remember Chris said
to me one day, you're wasted as a woman. You
would have made a much better dude. And I was like,
I feel like there's a compliment in there somewhere. You know,
what was the occasion? Why did he say that? I
think we had closed something, I'd done something right, pulled
a rabbit out of my ass. I don't know. He

(22:23):
was like, man, you would have made such a dope, dude,
You're so wasted as a woman. I was like, seriously,
you know, oh, my gonerence. But those are some of
the defining things that when I think back, because in
that moment, what I realized that was that, oh, the
things that are unique to my being a woman are

(22:47):
my tools, right, my secret weapons. So what is it? Oh,
the fact that I was able to get this done, Well,
that's because we're more detail oriented. The fact that you know,
so I started thinking of my womanly wiles, my womanly
gifts as that exactly gifts. Yeah, not you know, things

(23:08):
to be used against me.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, that's funny. I had one of those. It was
I was interviewing Birdman, so random because I, like you,
I used to never think that, you know, the guys
had to sitting room, were in the room with them
or whatever. And we were doing an interview and it
was a tense This is years later. I'd already been
on there for years. It was an intense moment conversation
we were having and he just stopped and he just looked

(23:31):
at me and he was like it was almost like
he was saying too much and he was mad about it.
And then he just was like, you know, you, I'm
able to talk to you like this because you're a woman.
I would never have this conversation with somebody else, and
I never had. Nobody had ever said that to me.
But I realized, oh, all these years, that was probably
my secret toolbox without me even knowing it was.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
My secret toolbox is.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
The ability to have to be vulnerable, to create a
vulnerable space for people to share in a different way.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, but with the same energy of the duce. Like
I love the music just much. I knew the lyrics
just as much. I knew that. You know, I can
do the same thing, but you were able to kind
of tap into the thing that only you have as
a woman doing this. Yes. I remember also going to
this seminar once and listening to this woman CEO and
she said it plainly and it just reinforced what I knew,

(24:23):
but she articulated it. She was just like, you know,
don't allow them to villainize the things that you know
make you unique as a woman, because they're threatened by that, right,
so they use it against you. And so the emotion
you'll hear, you know, oh, women are emotional. They don't

(24:44):
belong in the business show I use my emotion when necessary.
I you know, I connect with you on a different
level because I'm not afraid to display that emotion, right,
And so that has served me in situations when I'm
able to call someone and very clearly expressed like that
was wrong, because I know for a fact that you

(25:07):
would not have done this had I not been a woman. Right,
So that may be deemed emotional, but it's me being
able to tap into my honesty, being not afraid to
express my emotion in a way that I think only
women can. And you can say, oh, you know, a
man would never say that, or a man, but guess what,
a man would never be in that position because you

(25:27):
would have never done that shit to him. So what
are we talking about? You know what I'm saying. So
it's it's uni in. Yeah, and I and I lean
in all the time. Yeah, that's so good. But I
don't know. I think back then too, we uh, we
just didn't think about it. We were just trying to
get a job done. It was hustle, hustle, clus hustle, hustle,
which to this day, I still hustle. Do you like what?

(25:52):
Because I just feel like you the only thing that
separates us is you know, the grace of God and
our ability to get up every day and go hard.
So I'm never going to take that for granted. You know,
people are like, why do you still do it at
the level that you do it now? Mind you, I'm
enjoying it in a much different way, right, because that's

(26:13):
what led Ooh that was me. I'm sorry, that's what
led to me in two thousand and eight saying to Chris,
I'm good, you know, I just don't want to do
this anymore, right because I'd spent so many years like
being in service to like you said, the clients, which again,
I still loved it. It's still what I did. But
then I realized, like, what else do I want to do? Right?

(26:36):
What else is out there for me? And I'd done
that TV show with Missy and I was like, oh,
I really enjoyed this process. I'd like to do more
of this, but I won't have the bandwidth because I
don't know how to do this without giving of myself fully, right,
So I had to make a choice. And I was
miserable at that point because I wasn't living up to

(26:57):
my own expectations, my own potential. I was just doing
what I did because I do it really well, but
I'm doing it for everyone else. And I know there's
more shit that I want to do, but I don't
know what it is yet. But if I don't give
myself that opportunity, I'll never know. So it was that
cycle of I know they need me and I want
to do this, but I'm not happy because I want
to do more. And finally I was just like, I'm leaving,

(27:20):
you know I want to. He didn't believe me at first.
He was just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, right
where you're going? You ain't going nowhere? And I don't
say this as a negative thing, you know, because I
feel like it really helped fuel the next phase of
my life. But I remember talking to him and he
was like, you're not going to make it out there

(27:42):
on your own yep. Wow, But not in a negative way.
He didn't say it like he doubted I could. He
said it more like we are so connected. You are
such an intricate part of the ecosy some that exists
here that how will you ever be able to do

(28:04):
anything else? How will you ever duplicate the success that
we had here? Right? So I didn't take it as
he didn't think that I had the ability to be successful.
I think he doubted that I could go out there
and have the same level of success. And so I
was like, a word I was gonna say that had
to fuel you watch you don't like that? Might have

(28:25):
him just trying and listen, that's what I'd like to believe.
He was like, all right, if she's gonna do it,
let me put a battery in her back, because I
know how to push her buttons, you know, because I'm
so competitive.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Or it could have been him trying to be manipulative
in not wanting you to go and wanted me to
stay and wanted me to stay.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, I think it was a little bit of all
of it. Of all of it, I think it was
a little bit of them. So you had a battery
in your back? How boy? Did I? Because you know,
I didn't even know what I was going to do.
There was no clear like Okay, I'm going into television,
I'm going to start my own management company. I had
kind of all of these thoughts and ideas in my head,
but I wasn't sure. And then we were still splitting

(29:05):
the baby with bustera right because he was kind of
straddling both Chris and I and then Missy came with me,
and so I knew I had that my core. And
then it was like, Okay, what else can I do?
And I met this incredible woman by the name of
Gail Federici, who was you know, those pivotal people that

(29:26):
you meet in your life that come at the right juncture.
She had built the John frieda company from scratch right,
and her daughters were the two young girls that were
in the commercial back in the day, the two blonde
young girls. And she and I connected and she was
the most motivational, encouraging, you are incredible. She poured into me,

(29:50):
like in a way that I feel shaped the next
iteration of who I became, you know what I'm saying.
It was like things that I didn't think I was
capable of. She was just like, no, I meet special
people every day, I know, but you know, and she
was so sure that I was like, well, goddamn, I

(30:12):
guess I am you know, destined. I guess I am
the shit. And so it was one of those crucial
moments and my development and my you know, next phase
of evolution. My evolution. Isn't that funny?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
How you could have had so much success already, but
still the impact of just like one person, a woman.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, of course come along and see.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Another level exactly because had you ever had mentorship before?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
No, was a mentor or.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Was it somebody that just kind of she was a
mentor partner or a friend.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
You know, we had a blast while we were doing
all the many things that we did together. But yeah,
I mean when I think about the traditional sense of
having somebody to look at, right as much like I said,
my mother and I were this in the early days,
but I think a big part of it was because
we're both so strong willed, right, and I watched this

(31:05):
woman doing all the things that she did, so yeah,
in a very classic sense, I had a powerhouse woman
that I watched navigate life against all odds, and she
just happened to be my mother, right, So that was
my very first impression of what a woman is capable

(31:26):
of despite obstacles. And then moving through life, I had
the women on the wall that I tore out of
the Essence magazine. They were mentors in my head because
I was following their journeys and seeing what they had
been able to accomplish. And then meeting Gail in the
flesh and realizing that you know what she did for me, Gail,

(31:48):
she demystified the notion that anything and everything is possible
because she rates in this space. And I'll tell you why,
I say it in present tense. She operates in this
space that there is absolutely nothing that you cannot do.

(32:10):
As long as you get up in the morning and
you take a fucking breath, you are alive. Right. That
was your biggest accomplishment. You woke up, right. So anything
else that you set your mind to, now that's on you.
What did you do today to take you closer to that?
How did you, you know, take a step towards that goal?
Oh you didn't. Oh. Then the reason you're not there

(32:31):
is because of you. Because everything else is just noise.
And if you get stopped by the noise, held back
by the that's on you, right. Because when she tells
the story of meeting John Frieda and Hairstorm and then
building this, she tells the story of you know how
we came up you know, you know the John Frieda product.
I know the problem. You know how we ended up

(32:51):
with the name being this make I used to go
into CVS every single day, and I'd watch people passing,
you know, our product on the shelf and going to
the next product. So I just go up to them
and act like a customer and be like, Hey, why
didn't you pick this up? Did you not realize what
are you looking for? Oh? I'm looking for something for
frizzy hair. Oh, this is frizzies. Did you know that? Oh?
I didn't see the word frizzies. So she's like, so

(33:13):
then I'd go back and I'd make the word frizzies bigger.
And it was like, we look at a product on
shelf and we think, oh my god, there must have
been marketing geniuses sitting around. She's like, no, I went
into CVS and I just asked the person who didn't
pick my bottle up why they didn't pick it up.
And that thinking and approach started to shape the way
I thought and approach the things that I wanted to accomplish.

(33:35):
And I'm like, let's go have this idea that it's
larger than life, and no, these are just normal people.
Even Bill Gates was a normal person with an idea. No,
I'm just kidding up. We won't talk about the Bill
Gates of today. We'll talk about the journey of how
he got here. I'm just saying, like, you know, there's
nothing that separates those folks from us except you know, willpower, opportunity,

(34:03):
and even opportunity. Right, people will say, well they were
born with a silver spoon, or they tell you something.
Janine Rideret, who is my mother, cannot read or write,
came from really a small village in Haiti. How the
hell she found herself in New York City to have
me there? Right? Well, that is sheer willpower. That is

(34:25):
sheer wherewithal right, that is sheer figuring it out as
you go along and not allowing anything to tell you
that you can't. How does she How are you now? Oh?
My mother, she lives with me. Oh my god, no, no.

(34:45):
And again I had to be careful because I'm talking
about the normal fourteen fifteen, that age when you're finding
your voice. Most kids just stay at home and argue
with their mother until they get past that phase, right,
which is usually eighteen. So she must be so proud
of you. Oh, absolutely, absolutely, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

(35:06):
I understand, and I understood the assignment when she handed
over the reins. Because my mother is the matriarch of
course with my sisters and the extended family. And you know,
she was the person that figured it out and so I,
you know, carry the torch now is like a fisher. Well,

(35:27):
I'm a you know, like everybody comes to I'm the
youngest daughter, but I am the one that keeps everyone together. Right,
the holidays are at my house. I'm cooking for Thanksgiving
that kind of thing. Yes, Wow, she's okay with this transition.
My mother. Yeah, yeah, she's unfortunately, you know, early on set,

(35:49):
you know, Alzheimer's. So she comes and goes. She has
the days where she's completely lucid.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
But she's ninety for god bless Yes, how lunky are
you though that you have this time with her and.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Still looks great? Has her you know, a bit of
mobile now she's in you know, it's hard for her
to move around, but still here, honey, still here. That's God.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Once she gets to like this like an age group
where everybody is dealing with I can't tell you how
many friends I have who are in the caretaker mode
of their parents, or their parents are dealing with early
onset or were full on set, or you know, literally
I can tell you show you three friends who are
in the same same thing.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
It's not as it's not an easy thing. It's not acting.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's not an easy thing in life to navigate.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
How are you navigating that? It's hard because of when
I talk about the impact that she had on me,
it's because I watched this person, like I said, who
had so little access and available do all these things right.
And what I know about her is that there was
always so much more she wanted to do. So as

(36:56):
I watch her cognizance slipping, and you know, I'm often
sad about did she get to do everything? Did she
you know what I'm saying, really have the opportunity? And
now that I'm at a place where I'm like she
always wanted to go to let's go to Africa. You know,
she's bound, you know, in the chair and she can't

(37:17):
really move around. So it's hard for me. And I
think there is a side of me that I struggle
with that does not want to fully accept that. Right.
You know what I'm saying, which is in direct contradiction
to how I try to live, which is every day
in the moment, sees it because shit, tomorrow's not promised,

(37:39):
So that's you look away a little bit. Yes, yes,
And I struggle with that because I know it's the
wrong thing to do. And I struggle with that because
I know I'm probably going to regret it right when
I think about shit, she was right there and I
should have captured the stories and I should have. You
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and I was telling all these stories. My grandmother was
a shit, like funny, she was just whatever.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
She was a shit.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I would tell stories about her, and somebody had the
idea that I should do a legacy interview, like put
her in the chair and get the story of my
family because she came from her father came from Cuba
in his twenties, she married, you know, Puerto Rican man
and just everything, just the family and do this legacy.
And so in my mind, I was like, oh, yeah,

(39:10):
I'm gonna do.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
It's gonna be great. I'm gonna have all the time
in the week, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I'm running around doing blah blah blah blah blah. And
she passed suddenly from cardiac arrest and I was never
able to do it. And now I say the same
thing about my mom. My mom's young, healthy, thank God,
and her set her in a damn chair. But I say,
you know, I don't want to make that mistake. I'm
going to get my mom in the chair and have
that thing you give to your grandkids, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
But I said, sorry, I kicked you. But I say
that to say, like, you're not alone in that.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
We all do that and that, but it's not too late.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
She's still there. She's in your house now. The stories
make make the moments. The stories now go down the
rabbit hole day, you know, because she's in and out.
So it's like she'll start out very looseid and then
I'm like, does have to be that? She's like yeah,
but just like really understanding the history and getting all
those nuggets we had bows.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
You know. Bos Bose was here right before you today.
She was in here and she was telling about her
husband who she lost, but she was saying that he
had cancer and she took care of him the last
couple of weeks. It was like quick, he had two
weeks left when they said the treatment wasn't working, and
she took a picture of him every single day from
the day they said it's not working and it's terminal.

(40:21):
And she took these photos of him every day because
she wanted to be in it and have the memory
of all these days and now she has. So I
don't even know what it's important to sharing that story
except that all of us are trying to figure out
how to navigate these moments with people that we love,
with also real life going on at the same time.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, and not to beat yourself up, right, because that's
the thing that I try not to do because of course,
you know, like I'm always like, did I even go
into her room today? Did I? Cause the day starts,
the phone start ringing, you go crazy, and I'll be
right there in the house and some days I don't
even get over to you know, So I have to
be more intentional about that.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Maybe that's what we were supposed to talk about today,
so that he'll do.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
The way more intentional about that. And it's so crazy
you talk about Boz with her husband, because I had
a little scare with my husband recently. Yeah, last year,
as a matter of fact, I believe Jesus when it
was my birthday, So February mid February last year, we
were going to Vegas to celebrate my birthday. We were
going to see Janet, Missy was there and everything, and yeah,

(41:23):
he had a doctor's appointment. Went to the appointment and
they found a mass on his kidney and they were like,
it is so big. It had so you know, that's
the long weekend, the whole what is it President's Day
weekend or whatever. They were like, it needs to come out.
On Tuesday. So I had just gotten to Vegas on Thursday.
He went to the appointment on Friday. He was like, Oh,

(41:45):
I'm just gonna come because what the hell, nothing's going
to happen between now and Tuesday, and God forbid, at
least we had Vegas. So he comes and we're like
going out and where the Janet concert and where? And
I'm like days, because in the back of my brain,
I'm like, what the just happened to our lives? And
we came back and he had the surgery and it
was very aggressive, and so in the struggle to get

(42:09):
the tumor off of his kidney, they ended up having
to take out the whole kidney, but they punctured his colon.
Didn't know. So we're sitting in the hospital and what
was supposed to be all this easy surgery. He's healthy,
he's got two kidneys, he'll be fine with the one.
The whole day goes by, he's not feeling better. But
then they go to release him the next day and
as we're leaving, he just starts throwing up and I

(42:32):
turned right back around and yeah, they found that he
was septic, and so then what was supposed to be
this quick turnaround ended up in iliostomy bag for like
three months. Wow. And so when she talks about nursing
her husband now, I was just like, it was a
blurred to me right now when I think about it, right,
But it was like three times a day I had

(42:53):
to administer IV's and getting up in the middle of
the night, and it was like automatic pilot. And during
the day I'd be on the phone, you know, working
and well, so he's you know, they got it out
when they took out the kidney, he's thank god, one
hundred percent, you know, thank God, Yes, yes, yes, back
to his old fighting weight. How long have you been married? Though?

(43:14):
We've been together. Our son is twenty eight, so we've
been together twenty nine years. And we we we've been
married two thousand and five. So it was wow, How
does that work?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
How does the dynamic of you being so I don't know, successful, busy,
having so much on your plate?

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I mean, the way it works is because none of
this could have happened right without the dynamic that exists
between us. Right if I had gotten pregnant with anyone else,
my trajectory might have been very different. This man took
that baby bottle. He was like, I got this go. No,
we're not getting nannies. I mean, his mom eventually ended up,

(43:56):
you know, coming to be with us and stuff, but
even then he was like, she can't drive, she can't
get around. These kids were on small dance class, gymnastics,
this that you know, he was a stay at home dad.
We just reversed the roles and he was in it,
in it and everything that I had to go out

(44:16):
there and do, I did it with no stress, without
thinking about are the kids okay? Without thinking about what
the hell is happening at home when I'm while I'm
out here.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
You know, And that's not what you're explaining. Is not
a small thing exactly, and not something that every couple
could manage.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
The dynamic of that, No, because you are not talking
about even a guy who he was in the business.
Because by the way we met, he did security for Buster,
so that's how we connected. So he understood the business.
But because he understood the business, right, he should have
had a bigger problem with me running these streets. But also,

(44:57):
this is a dude Breboard Brooklyn used to do security,
so you can imagine the mindset, the attitude where he
comes from the environment, but wanted something different for our kids,
wanted something different for our lives, and had no qualms
about it. I mean, of course there were moments where
he felt like, you know whatever, and we talked through

(45:19):
them and got through them. But it wasn't like he
was insecure or he felt like it made him less
of a man, right, And I've talked about that often
because the question I always get is how do you
balance it all? How do you have it all? Listen,
there's no secret formula. I can't even tell you I
figured that shit before. We just worked on it. It
was work, you know, making sure that our relationship was safe,

(45:44):
with me on the road and him staying it home,
making sure that I never made him feel in any way,
shape or form less than not that it even occurred
to me. But how do you do that?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
So there's a woman now who's dealing with that now,
and the husband is open to it, but they're still
navigating the early complications of what that could feel like.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
What do you say to that. You have to be
conscious about it, because, let me tell you, it is
very easy, and not intentionally or maliciously, to be selfish
with what we do, right, Because it becomes all about
our schedule, are what we're doing are? You know? And
they were times like I'd come into the house from
a day that was like ah, right, and I'd come
in with that same energy and he'd be like, an,

(46:28):
do you want to leave and come back in? Because
you're home there right, so you need And so I
had to consciously be like, Okay, I've got to have
a different energy when I come in the house so
that I'm not bringing all of my shit from the day.
And when he became the person that I was talking
to about it or the person that you know, was

(46:50):
helping me figure shit out, it gave us a different dynamic.
Now he was in every sense my partner in this.
He wasn't out there, you know, on the road with me.
He wasn't in the meetings with me, but all of
the decision making, all of the thinking, all of the strategizing,
all of that. This was my sounding board. This is
the person that you know what I'm saying, Well, this

(47:12):
is what happened today.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
How lucky are you to have found that? Listen, because
for a lot of successful women, that is very challenging.
If finding that type of partner, Absolutely, and I know it.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I take it for granted sometimes yes, because I'll be
looking like, you know that, what is that little thing
where they're like, he's mine, you know, look at him,
that's yours, you know. But it was the most incredible
blessing because I would have never been able to move
the way that I moved without thinking at all about

(47:43):
what's happening with the kids, what's happening with the home,
what's happening with our back end of our lives. Right
it was almost like I was out there hustling, throwing
it back. He was catching it, making sure the trust
is in place, the investments are in place, you know.
So I never say ever that I did this on
my own, right. That's why I'm so crazy about like

(48:05):
when people like Mona Scott. No, the woman you're talking
to today is Mona Scott Young. Yeah. And it's not
just because I like the last name. It's because this
is how I got here. It's a good last name, though.
It's a great lesson forever. You know. I got songs,
I got hashtags. It's so good. Yes, it's so good.

(48:25):
Good for you, Mona, you figured out.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
I feel like that's a big thing for successful women
it's trying to figure that part of life out.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
And that's a whole other conversation. I'd be like, well,
what are you looking for? Literally, when I was at
the Michael party, I sat down, this young lady sat
down next to me. I know she had no idea
who I was, but she was like, so, what do
you think about love? And I was like huh, And
then oh, you've had a couple of cocktails okay, And
I was like, what do you mean? Have you been
able to find love? Like I swear to you, this
is random as hell. I don't even her name was Ashley.

(48:55):
I happened to remember her name. I shout out to
Ashley and she was just, are you in a relationship?
Have you been married? I said yes for a very
long time. How did that happen for you? How did
And this was random, young girl sat down next to
me and that was the first thing on her mind. Yeah,
And so a lot of times I'm like, well, what

(49:17):
are you all looking for? Because honestly, I didn't even
know what I was looking for. I knew it when
I found it, but I didn't even know I was
looking for. And what it was for me was somebody
who got me to stop because I was a runaway
train with my energy and my aggression. That hustle what
I needed to do to be competitive and to not

(49:39):
you know, be overlooked in the room when I'm in
a room with a bunch of oupha males. So it
was every day the person who was able to get
me to say, you're homeman. How many motherfuckers could do that?
You know, like, would you say you needed a security person? Sure?
And more importantly made me laugh, Oh that's great. Do
you know what I'm saying? Like cracking up, laughing even

(50:02):
to this day, you know that beautiful makes me laugh,
That's beautiful. So it's like, what are you looking for? Dude?
And I probably would have never thought twice about the
dude that does security for Buster? What? Yeah, you know
that's no fly zone, especially for us navigating. You can't
be what is that saying? Eating where you shit, whatever

(50:26):
you work? I should say, yeah, but yeah, no, it's
all about what you're looking for me. Buster's Buster take
any responsibility for this? Of course?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
At first he hated it, and then he was you know,
he'll talk about he was the best man at the wedding,
made his speech I brought them together. What I have
put together, let no man put asunder. But did he
say that he does. Yes, he totally takes credit for
the relationship totally. You know nothing, they're surprised me, nothing
at all about it. So okay. So now so you start.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Loving hip hop, which you already at this point you're
ready to like do something for you right, like, this
is it?

Speaker 1 (51:05):
I love? There was a out of your comfort zone.
I'm out of my comfort zone. I know, I liked television.
I'd made the rounds of Hollywood, met a bunch of
different executives. And then Yandy, who was also my protege.
You know, she came into Violate or straight out of Howard,
trying not to go back to school. I was like, girl,
this is not for the faint of heart. But she,

(51:25):
you know, was in it. And then eventually she moved
on to her own and she started managing Jim Jones.
And you know, I've told the story. I was figuring
it out, trying to I was doing a little bit
of product stuff with Gail right we launched a makeup
collection and boots in London, and then I was still
kind of okay managing Missy and stuff. Do I want
to take on more clients? And then Yandy came with

(51:47):
this opportunity with this show that she had, and so
that was really about like, shit, we know this world
is crazy. Lord knows, you know. Can nobody tell me
none of the crazy Shenanigan is that they've watched. No
one who's been in this can tell me that this
shit ain't true. I know the regular person is like
she makes it up and scripted shit. You know some

(52:11):
of the stuff that I witnessed coming up, It was
like just pulling the curtain back on the world and
that was lightning in a bottle. Yeah, and then your
life changes? Does your life change?

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Not right away? Shit, No, because there was you know,
the period in the first I don't know, two seasons.
It was a sleeper hit, right everybody in the industry
was like, oh my god, what is this thing? Buzzing
about it? Everybody was talking about it online. The ratings

(52:41):
were still kind of on and off because I don't
really yeah, it wasn't my memory. I feel like it
was explosion at the Gate the first season. No, And
it was the second season and then with Atlanta coming on,
that's where it kind of explode us. But what happened
in the first season was a post show conversation that

(53:03):
I don't think the networks have ever seen. Usually a
show goes off the air, that's it. People are waiting
for next week. This the conversation. And it was right
at the tip of social media, right. So I hosted
the first screening at my crab and I just invited
all the bloggers they were calling them at the time, right,
And so they all came and they started this kind

(53:23):
of social media community around the show. And so I
remember the network would constantly be like, it's so crazy, right,
it's Wednesday and people are still talking about the Monday show.
We've never seen that kind of engagement. And it would
run right into the following week. So that is really
what kind of cemented it into the cultural zeitgeist where people,

(53:47):
but the ratings were still fledgling. And then when it
all kind of came together with Atlanta, it just exploded.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
But what's happening with you at the time? Are you like,
first of all, you had your battery in your back.
I had Chris ever AND's it is so funny.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
I remember we were shooting a scene and that was
when I still kind of went to set every day
and we happened to be shooting. I was looking down.
I looked up. I was like, oh shit, this is
our old block. It was like on twenty first Street
when we had that office on twenty first, and I
was like, oh, I wonder if Chris is there. Imagine
if I saw Chris and literally I did this, why
was he walking across the street. So then I stuck

(54:24):
my head. I was like, yo, chrisy. He was like, Yo,
give me some of that love and hip hop money.
And so that was you know, we never really kind
of got to talking about the show and the success.
But I mean people like shot Camp and Sunday would
be like, oh, have you talked to Chris. He's so
proud of you. He's bragging on you, you know, but
he never said it to me. You know. That was
that was because he still wanted you to come back,

(54:44):
saying he was probably like, yeah, that was a flu
you lucked out on that. That's funny. But I feel
like you also became you're now a public figure, right,
Well that didn't come till later because well, first of all, right,
the show was like in the early years, it was
my Rolodex, the people that I knew all of that stuff,

(55:06):
so there was a lot of boots on the ground.
And then when they're talking about the show and press,
nobody else could you know, talk about it as fluently
because literally, not only had I'd lived it, but I
pieced it together, you know, based on the people, the world,
the phone calls. It wasn't I think it was the
reunion show. When I hosted the reunion That's really what

(55:28):
did it. And then I also used to voice the intro,
you know, love and hip hop, the city that never
you know, it was that kind of thing, so people
became more familiar with my voice in the beginning. And
what was so crazy is like I'd be out and
about and people would see me have no clue, and
then I'd be like, Hi, excuse me, do you have
Oh my god, you're the loving hip hop lady, right.

(55:52):
And then one year we were shooting. I feel like
it might've been the first. No, maybe we had somebody
else do the first. I don't remember, but Jamaicaman, the executive,
was like, you should be doing this. You know the stories,
you know more about the world, you should be doing it.
And I was like, oh, whatever, didn't even think twice
about it. Whatever, whatever, we're producing it, we're putting it

(56:12):
all together. We get to the day of the shoot.
You know, I'm multitasking because I'm still producing. But then
they're kind of prepping me to get in the chair
and I remember sitting in the chair and I had
on I had two earwigs in because I had the
producer one in and then you know, the one for
the producer giving me my cues. And I remember sitting
in that chair. I was like, I'm Jim, can you
hear me? He was like yeah. I was like, you know,

(56:34):
I've never done this, right. He was like, Oh, You'll
be fine. And the rest is history. And the rest
of this history. Where do you hold that now? Because
you know, it was.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Obviously hugely successful. It's been analyzed, Brittany was saying. In
her school they did a whole debate. In college, they
did a love and hip hop debate around the impact
and you know, the negative, negative, negative, right right, you know,
But there's been those conversations over the years, which I'm
sure you've had and engaged so many and have navigated,

(57:09):
asked and answered, dissected, and where in the overall in
your real life, like what kind of place does it hold?

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Is it? Like? Like I mean, listen. It was instrumental
in providing not only a platform for all the talent
that was on the show, jobs for other people, a
platform for me. Right. This allowed me to have real
cachet in the TV space because as much as there

(57:37):
were thoughts surround it, it was an undeniable success and
there were so many attempts at recreating and trying to
reinvent that wheel and do you have another love and
hip hop? You know? But for me it was always
like I keep kicking on so I know, No, it's
because we're approximately. I was like no, but I could
do X Y Z right, So it provided an entry

(57:58):
point and I I won't say it did not have
its downside. I often call it a blessing and a curse, right,
I said the other day to this Zan the album track.
She was like, I want you to stop saying that,
because this was a hugely successful show. Do you know
how many people are navigating production and television who have
never had the success that you had, so I have

(58:23):
you know, tried not to focus on that because it
also again the criticisms, the critiques the being shut out
of certain rooms, the being looked at in a certain light,
and being limited right in terms of what people thought
I could do. Because this was so massively successful, they

(58:43):
erased everything that I had ever done before Love and
hip Hop Like Motherfucker's reacting dazed and confused about the
fact that I successfully managed some of the top artists
in you know, the music in the world right and
was responsible for some of the earliest examples of brand

(59:04):
integration deals. When you think about Tribe with Sprite right
back then, I did Missy, Adidas and Rebok within months
of each other. And if you understand how challenging that
is because those things usually have exclusivity or you know,
periods where you can't even do another sneaker, let alone

(59:25):
their biggest competitor. But was able to navigate that right.
Busta's Mountain dw Ad started as a radio spot, a
thirty second radio lies. It started as a print campaign
that then became a radio spot that then became, you know,
a global campaign. So nobody remembers any of that shit.
It was like Love and hip Hop, the Love and
hip Hop lady, right, That's who I became, So that's

(59:49):
what I that's exactly what I wonder.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
What did that feel like for you, somebody who had
done all this work and yes, this one thing.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Over shat Listen, I'm human, right, I remember distinctly and
I can't even pinpoint what it was exactly that happened.
But social media was going crazy. And that's before we
understood like, okay, let me go and see, oh you
have one follower. You said you started this account today
just to troll me. That's before we really understood that. Right,

(01:00:21):
it just looked like the world was fucking coming for
me and hated my guts, and I was front and
center all the time, so nobody cared that there's a
fucking entire building full of executives that are really making
the final final decisions. Nobody understood that there's a notes

(01:00:42):
process where I say, no, we shouldn't do this. Look,
she said this thing, she did this thing, but she
regrets it today, and we should really give her an
opportunity to come back and course correct and can we
just cut round? No? No, because again I did not
own this thing, right, I'm tied to this thing. I
create this thing, I built this thing, you know, but

(01:01:03):
I don't have the final say so on this thing. Really,
that's just the function of you know, you sell a show,
a concept to a buyer. You no longer. That's why
more and more people now are deficit, you know, financing,
paying for themselves, controlling the product and then licensing it. Right,
But that was not the thing back then. And who knew, Right,

(01:01:26):
if I'd known then what I know now, it would
have been a very different proposition. So again, people didn't
understand any of that and just thought I was sitting
around like, ha, let me figure out how to fuck
up lives today, and you know it was it was insane.
And then the other thing was, again, this was a

(01:01:48):
world that had become normalized to me because you've been
in it. You've seen the crazy stuff that happens right
at the party and the f the party, and like,
we want to shock that the stuff that they're hearing
about that happens in this industry. But I also knew
and got to know a lot of the girlfriends and

(01:02:09):
wives and realize that, oh wow, okay, nobody's ever going
to know how smart, how funny you are because you
are walking in this shadow and you're happy to do
it because it's affording the lifestyle that you live, but
there's so much more to you you might want to
explore that, right, So it became a pathway that I didn't.

(01:02:30):
That made it less about the backlash to me and
more about, Okay, you know they're about to vilify us.
What are you doing with this moment? How are you
about to leverage this shit? You know they'd be like,
oh my god, I'm so grateful. How can I thank you?
Go forth and prosper. Literally that was my saying, go
forth and prosper. Do not let this should be in vain.

(01:02:51):
We out here catching bullets right literally at times, but like,
do not allow this to be the moment. This is
not the moment. This is a means to an end.
Do not unpack your bags. This is a pit stop,
not a final destination. Who are you most proud of
that took that advice? Every single one of them did,

(01:03:11):
in some way shape performed. Not every single there are
a few that went left right, or that got caught
in the moment and stopped to with the shiny lights
and then the train passed. But if you think about it, right,
everyone from Ky Michelle, who was in a deal she
was unhappy with, thought that the world would never hear

(01:03:31):
her voice literally right, and being able to pursue country
music to party who I do not take credit for
because she came onto the show the first season and
actually came back because she understood the opportunity, right. But
it did play a role, and I know she has
mixed feelings about that, but I don't think you can

(01:03:52):
discount even the reason why she came back because she
understood it. But that's to her credit for understanding it,
because some people don't even at the opportunity. They don't
get it, and it doesn't compute for them how to
leverage this, right Yandy, of course, who started out as
a gap tooth and intern, and listen, that gap tooth

(01:04:14):
was deep. She'll tell you the story my son when
my son was losing his sad. No, no, no, because
he would I say, because look at her now. She's accomplished.
She's beautiful, she's polished. She is an entrepreneur, a businesswoman,
a celebrity on so many levels. So she has branched
out to develop herself in every arena, right, every last

(01:04:37):
one of them, every last one of them. Joscelyn, I
can't even leave her out of the equation. I watched
her go from someone who said she never thought she'd
see her name on a check to somebody who is
producing her own shows, owning her own shows. Right, So
for me, every single one who has taken that opportunity
and done something with this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Sure, I'm sure even in those moments, there were good
days and bad days, right for you, like navigating the
waters of that opinions, negative stuff, whatever. All the things
that come with.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
The bad days were bad. I thought I started saying
that because I was saying I'm human, right, So then
you try to have the shield on and you're like, oh,
none of this shit. They don't know. They're just a person.
Look at that, they have an egg for a profile page. Still,
it felt like the world when it's all coming down. Yea,
And yeah, there were times where I was just like,
oh my god, I can't take it. Why am I

(01:05:36):
doing this? It's not worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Did you ever think though that, I don't know. Did
you ever think not to? Did you ever think like,
would you even pull the plug even if you wanted to? No?

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
I think I could have, in the sense that it
would have been very uncomfortable for me to say I'm
done with this I'm moving on. It would have been
uncomfortable for the network to continue, you know, because I
was again that anchor for the franchise. Right, They weren't
days because what I did understand, honestly was that if

(01:06:15):
I did that, it would be for selfish reasons, because
it would be because I couldn't stand the heat, because
I felt like I was you know, I didn't want
to be front and center. So what I realized is
you got to take the good with the bad, right,
And if I think that there's all of these good
things that are coming out of it, then me, withstanding
this storm is part of the job, Right, I can't

(01:06:36):
be like, oh, look at how great this is for
everyone and even for me and my family and what
it's afforded and allowed me to do. But I don't
want none of the backlash. I don't want to be
front and center. I don't want anybody calling my name
and associating me with the negative stuck. But was it
hard yet? Yeah? They were days where I was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Just like, oh, did you ever were the days ever
that you felt like some of the backlash was warranted?

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
No? No, never, never, Because nobody got bamboozled, nobody was
there were no hitting cameras. It's like, you know when
people are just like, I didn't know I did that.
I'm like, how you did it right on camera? And
I would always say, I can only edit what you give,

(01:07:21):
so don't give it, and then you won't be And
there were so many times where I'd be sitting with
someone because we would have what we call insight sessions
right where they would have their producers who they tell
stuff to, and then the producers would run it up
the chain and we'd get a written report. Okay, this
is what Angie told me is happening in her life?

(01:07:41):
She said, you know, she never cheated. But then I
know that Brett just called me and told me that
she saw Angie with this person. So I'd be like,
go back to Angie and ask her, is she sure
about this piece of information? Not at the club on

(01:08:02):
Saturday night? You know? Nope, Angie said she was not there. Okay,
here we go, right, Soarra's at the club on Saturday night.
You know you were there. Why are you saying otherwise?
You know what I'm saying. So it's like and then
of course it would be like she set me up.
I would never have known that you were at the club.

(01:08:25):
Had you not been at the club, right, I would
never have had this person telling me you're lying about
this thing if you didn't tell me otherwise. And I
would say, own your shit, because that's the best way
to navigate this. Yeah, control your own narrative. Don't let
somebody else come in here with some information that you're
lying about or that you are saying you know it's

(01:08:48):
who you are if it ain't really, because there's somebody
out there ready to pull the rug out from under you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Right, I know you have to have like a I
say this with love, morna. You have to have like
a little hint of ruthlessness to be able to do that.
Because my because I'm so like you wouldn't know, but
like I'm overdo it. I'm the opposite of you, which
probably stops me from doing some things sometimes which I
probably could have done. Yes, I'm too like, I'm like,

(01:09:16):
I would feel bad, So I would say that because you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Know what, the the part of it that people didn't see,
the midnight phone calls, the talking them off the ledge,
the crying with them when something. Do you know what
I'm saying, Because this is the thing at the top
of this, they would get the talk. They would get
the talk. Literally, it was the means to an end.

(01:09:40):
I would liken this to a bed of coals because
that was another formative thing in my life. I remember
seeing people who walk over coals and were able to
do that by sheer will power and the desire to
get to the other side of what it was, and
that's what allowed them to just barefoot go over those colds.
So I would say, think of this as walking over
a bit of coals. It's gonna get hot, it's gonna hurt.

(01:10:02):
Sometimes you might even get burnt a little crispy. But
do not stop here. Do not stop because then you will,
you know what I'm saying, disintegrate. So keep it moving.
So in your managerial way. Yes, I was motivating them, No,
I understand a little bit more like the how you
maneuver the ship. And I would say, make sure you

(01:10:25):
line up what you want out of this. Do not
do this for shits and giggles. You should never be
doing this because I want to be a reality start.
That should not be the goal. This is a pathway,
a means to an end. It should not be a
I can now tell you how many times I've said that,
and there's no one who can say they never got
that speech because that was the entry speechee. Right, make

(01:10:48):
sure what do you want to accomplish out of this?
What do you want to get? What are your hopes
and dreams and goals? Okay, let's make sure you tee
that up. I will, to the best of my ability,
weave that into the story wherever we can make sure
that it's organ because you can't be in there message
selling your wares like this is one big commercial. Right,
if we can find the stakes and you wanting this

(01:11:10):
thing so badly that it's live or die for you,
that you are ready to really put your heart and
soul into this thing, and let's find how it's impacting you.
Let's find how the things, what are the obstacles in
that path. Let's build a story there and tell this
thing as a backdrop. Right, You're gonna you wanna confront

(01:11:32):
brit for you know, telling on you that you were
at the club. What did you just got going into
an episode of love and hip hop? They aren't even
gonna do it at the launch of your events. Oh
my god. Sometimes not the best idea, but it wasn't.
It wasn't an attempt to kind of merge the world.
But listen again, when I look at everything in life,

(01:11:56):
there's good, there's bad, there's the you know, does it
out weigh complicated? It's all complicated. Life is complicated. Wo
I ever say that. I don't think it, you know,
should have happened. I don't think that there were many
many who benefited from this. I would never say that.
I would never say that. And you know, I bore
the brunt. I went through the fire, and you walked

(01:12:18):
over the coals. I walked over the calls. Trust me,
I was not about to sit in them coals. Because
then at a certain juncture, the wheels, the training wheels
came off and it was functioning on its own. And
so then it was like, okay for me, it's time
for the pivot. Where do I want to go next? Well,
people keep telling me, I make this shit up. Let's
venture into scripted, Let's start to develop in that you

(01:12:41):
know arena, and then doing other shows, right, unscripted shows
with other networks and branching out and stuff. So so
that was the point you did that? So what did
you do?

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
You stepped away from the show as.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
No, no, no, I mean I'm still still because I
was what they call lock for life. So for the
life of the show, I will forever be the creator
EP of the show. Yes exactly, but.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
You're not in the mailbox money.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
The mailbox money comes out. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
So then it allowed me to my attention. You stepped
away from just being from the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Day to day running of the show. This show it yes,
so people will be like, yes, I don't even know
who this person is, ma'am, because I don't. I'm not
in it like that. I have no idea who this
person is. So what now? What's the pivot now? God? Well,
you know I started producing, like I said, features, and
so I did too. I just did the Mary J.

(01:13:33):
Blige Presents. Yes, that was a production that we had
so much fun making that developing, you know, in the
scripted space across like series and and features, both for
theatrical and and streaming platforms. I started producing tours. I
did Missy you know, the Out of This World tour

(01:13:56):
along with the Queens of arm B and that was
like a little bit of taking everything that I've done
and just supersizing it. I was like, yeah, I should
be able to do this ship, right, They've all been
on doors. Why can't I produce a tour? Right? So
Missy for me was like that tour was the holy
grail because it was such an incredibly executed and I
have to say it, it's not me tooting my own horn.

(01:14:19):
I don't know if you saw it? Did you say
I did it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
I'm so mad I missed it. This is how did
this happen? We did you see it? How did this happen?
How did that happen?

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Did that happen? I don't know. Maybe I was going
through something, the fact that I had when I jumped
on that plane to go see Michael's what should have
happened when.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
I should have jumped out of this came into you.
I should have jumped on a plane because.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
It was a culmination of artist street meets excellence and execution,
you know, everything that came head. We were like, it
will be so and it will be executed to perfection. Right,
So every night we got this massive set on the

(01:14:58):
stage and it was we moved with one hundred and
sixty people on that tour. Wow. So yeah, So anyway,
more tours, more tours and more tours and then a
ton of stuff, Tyree says, a visionary in the truest sense.
He just you have mona if you do nothing else.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
As a manager, Yes, you have to get the Teddy
story for him. Help him get this Teddy story across
the fast line.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
And that's the beauty of one of the things that
Suzanne and I are doing together because think about her
legacy and music and her having you know, that history there.
So that is definitely I want to say, because there's
a lot we had. He did.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
He went into he jumped into Teddy's spirit for a
second while he was here, yeah, and sang for us
and also sat in the chair as if he were
Teddy and.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Oh wow, and did an interview and did.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
A little bit of Teddy for me. And it was
when I all had oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
God, it's so with Tyresee it's the Teddy penagresstor you
know what I said. There's that thing that they want
to accomplish that I know that I know how to
do and how to bring to fruition. It is that
there's so many dreams he has every day. It's like
I have to do this, and I'd like to do that,
and how do you like this outfit I'm wearing. I'm
starting a clothing line right, and he has the ability

(01:16:20):
what he needed. And what I hope to bring is
the execution and the stricture and the But the Teddy
is that thing. It's his opus, it's his thing. It
has to happen. That's the thing that is going to happen.
It good, It is going to happen.

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we have a voice snout Fromna?

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Yeah? Hi, Mona.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
I just wanted to start off by saying, I am
a huge fan of your career as someone who is
a music lover and reality TV lover. I've enjoyed watching
you navigate between both industries. I have a question, with
all the current changes happening in the TV space, a

(01:17:48):
lot of shows that have been on air for over
ten years coming to a close, do you think this
is a smart time for someone like me to pursue
a career as a reality TV producer? And do you
have any current reality shows that you're watching or any
favorite many questions, So many questions your shows that you

(01:18:11):
would like to share.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
That was many questions, mart, That was many questions. But
let's tackle the first one. Unscripted is always going to
be a genre that works because it is much less
expensive to produce than scripted. Of course, in success it
climbs up there with the fees, but there's always going
to be the opportunity to pursue unscripted. But the thing
is unscripted is not limited to docu follows. Right, that's

(01:18:35):
the mistake that producers coming into the game thing unscripted.
This is unscripted exactly. This is unscripted. Formats are unscripted.
Game shows are unscripted. Crime shows are unscripted. You know,
depending on the format that you do. So one, yes,
if you want, if you aspire to a career as
a producer, the unscripted genre will always be viable. Now

(01:19:00):
now it is all about what is the offering, right,
what is the content? And that is a you know,
that is factored by a combination of elements. Whatever is
happening in the zeitgeist. What are people tuning into, what
is happening in the world right now? Finding things, worlds, people, occupations,

(01:19:20):
spaces that we have yet to see exposed. Right, that's
always a way to find your lane, find your footing,
looking at what's going on, whether it be on social
media on the internet, and figuring out how to give
a version of that offering. Right. Unlinear. So it's like

(01:19:43):
whether it's oh, well TikTok trend or whatever, how does
this translate? Is it a game show? Idea that I
could develop, So, you know, to answer the question about
whether with all of the changes, because they have collapsed,
so they are very very They are much fewer outlets
than there used to be, but there will always be opportunity.
You just have to really be nimble, and you have

(01:20:06):
to be aware of what's happening, and you have to
be creative about approach right to make sure that you
could find your lane in the business. And then what
are the things that I'm watching? I mean, listen to it.
It runs the gamut. It's a variety. I am a
huge crime show you are, Oh my god, yes, everything
from procedurals on the scripted side to there is no

(01:20:28):
way anyone will ever get one up on me. Okay,
I know every which way that I can be kidnapped
or killed and you will not get one over on me.
I love you know, watching these shows where I see
people do the craziest shit for a small insurance payment.
It's crazy to me. I'm like, really, that was a
ten thousand dollars payout and you took out your entire family.

(01:20:51):
Wasn't worth it to you? But yeah, I'm developing some
stuff in the crime space right now. Clearly you know
something with fifty, right, Well, no, fifty and I had
hip hop homicide. Oh him homicide. There was not something
else I thought anyway that was talked about doing other things.
Shout out to fifty Curtis. We talked about doing some
other things, but hip hop homicides was a result of

(01:21:12):
you know, fifty and I were both at Lionsgate at
the time and we were in a room and he
was like, Mona, we should do a show about dead rappers.
And I was like, what a show about dead rappers?
And it evolved that was the idea in his head.
But even to the point where we had sold the
show and it was getting he still wanted to call
it dead rappers. I was like, we are not calling
this damn show dead rappers. Fifty, so we came out

(01:21:33):
with hip hopocide. But yeah, so in the crime space,
there's a podcast that I work with. The two young
ladies who have this podcast called Sisters Who Killed Them?
Are you familiar with it? It sounds familiar. Yeah. So the
two young ladies who host the podcast, they have a
very unique point of view and takee right. So it's

(01:21:54):
everything from if I had did it to you know,
who does this like this same conversation and you feel
like you're just sitting around watching a crime show with
your girlfriends. Wow. And so we've taken the concept of
the way they approach their storytelling and flipped it into Oh,
that's fine series, that'll be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Yes, those are all questions, right, because there's many questions
she had. I feel like there was one more, but
it's okay. It was long, Its very very long. Okay,
quick in real lives and then a bowl and then
we're done.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Okay in real life? Where's my in real life? Look,
I did all these cards for you, and I didn't
use any of that lips. Try. I feel like you
can do it. You can take some allergy meds, man,
because I was so good before in LA those twenty
four hours, I had no allergies. What do my lips
look like? Am I good? Or can I use the lid?

(01:22:45):
You want to touch you up?

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
You can?

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Quick? No? No? No? If I'm fine, okay, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Oh we did hit some of these unknowingly. Okay, all right,
good and let's go to my irls. A couple of
I rls in the bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
And you're done. See how easy I'm fine, this was fun.
You're so good. Thank you. Yeah, you enjoyed. Thank you.
Sometimes you don't know right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Sometimes i'd be talking, I'd be like, I'm into it,
but like I can't always in real time assess outside.
But if I'm into it, I assume everyone must be.
If I'm into it, I mean everyone must be. Okay,
okay in real life? What are you most proud of?

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
My kids? I almost said my daughter, but I want
to say my kids. But my daughter only because she
is the better, faster, smarter, funnier version of me. But
both of my kids, my son is amazing. Justin shout
out to Justin Scott Young. I love you so your kids? Yes?

(01:23:46):
What about in your career? What are you most proud of?
My ability to make dreams come true? That is a
special talent. I'm a unicorn and I cross so many
different genres. I do so many different things, and I
don't think many people operate that way make dreams come true.
I make dreams come true in a very unique way.

(01:24:07):
You know you're no What makes you say that? I
don't know. I just thought that. I don't know that
you don't recognize this energy. Okay, let me think hmmm,
boss energy, highly created Taurus neither neither. This is special?
What is the most special sign? Like I said, oh gosh,

(01:24:30):
excuse me, Aquarius in the building. Okay, I'm sorry, I
didn't hear the boss Aquarius in the building. Thank you, ladies.
Angel you can't come in here and produce my girl
into clapping for you, but you see I did that.
Only an Aquarius can command a room in that way. Yes,

(01:24:52):
thank you everyone. I don't take it for granted. Thank you.
In real life, how important is money to you? Only
to live, not to make me happy? You know, only
for the necessities in real lend of shoes in real life?
What should people care less about? Oh? Is there is

(01:25:12):
this multiple choice? Or do you want me to what
other people think? Because none of that shit is going
to pay your bills or change your life in any
real way. As long as you could look at yourself
in the mirror and you know the truth, that's all
that should matter. At the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
What do you hope people learn from you and your story?

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
I am not a monster enough that know that every
and anything is possible every single day. Many people see
you as an answer. I don't know. People have their opinions.
But then I just say I didn't care about that. No,
that everything and anything is possible. I promise you. Every
day I think the reason I have so much fun

(01:25:55):
people are like, oh, how do you do all these things?
Only because I refuse to believe that I am not
capable of anything that I set my mind to, so
anything that you throw at me, and like, my team
never knows what they're doing from one day to the next. Yes,
well guys, today we're going to be putting together a tour.
Tomorrow it's a movie that you know, because once we

(01:26:15):
take that last breath, that said, it's a rap. No
second chances, no redo, no do overs. So every single
day I'm just like, what fuels that? What are you
credit fueling that? Your desire to do that? Not wanting
to be in the place where I believe in my
heart my mother is where she did not do it
all in the time, you know, And I don't want

(01:26:37):
to have that regret. I want to know that when
it's time for me to take that last breath, that
there's nothing that I thought about, wanted to do, aspire
to that I didn't at least make the attempt at
so good our bowl for the clothes A wild shot.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Okay, the universe says it. Usually I have one that
I like the best, and I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
That you put at the top, yes, right here, Okay,
I'm going to ask it to you after.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
But you picked yours person then on the mind. This
is my question I ask everybody whether you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Pick it or not? Okay, got it? All right? This
one right here? It might be very you know, ah,
what is it if today were your last day on earth?
What would you be doing? Exactly what I am doing
right now because that was the goal for today and

(01:27:28):
I accomplished it. What was the goal to be here
on the edge of Martina Show? I jumped on the
fucking plane? What are you talking about? I got into
Bland at eight am. I got dressed, I put on
a coordinated outfit. No, but like doing whatever it is
that I was I set out to do for that day,
and if that ends up being it, I don't want
to think about shit. I was supposed to do this

(01:27:51):
today and I didn't. Well, I would be honored that
this would would be what you were doing this. I
would hope today is not my last day, but I
would love I love that you honor this day as
it is. That's amazing, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
And my question from the ball that I love is,
if God were to text you right now, Mona Scott Young.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
You got Mona Scott Young.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Yes. If God were to text you right now, Mona
Scott Young, what would it say? You woke up this morning,
You're welcome because he knows. He knows that every single
day that he gives me, I'm gonna go with thousand percent.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
I'm gonna give it all. So he's gonna be like
I gave you another one. Go forth and prosper.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
Mona Scott Young in real life.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
This is Mona Scott Young in real life. Hey guys,
thanks for watching.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Make sure you subscribe, like comments, and check out all
of the other episodes we have on Edge.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
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