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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks so
much for joining us. We're so excited to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Kathy always always excited. I'm great. I'm great. Today we're
answering more of your questions, but first we wanted to
wish you all a very, very happy Thanksgiving. Can you
believe Thanksgiving is here? Susan?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I cannot, But I don't know if anybody is as
crazy as I am. I think every year it gets
worse instead of better.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Well, for me, I have passed the torch, as they say,
so my kids do the cooking. I bring the wine,
the champagne, and I bring my homemade eggnog bread. But
I don't have to do the turkey.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Do you hear this? People?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, wait, did you.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hear what she's saying? When was the less time that
you made a turkey? Because you just said I passed, Well.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I passed the to what it's meaning we are Tradition
is always to get out the Christmas china, and that's
the first day we use it. It's Thanksgiving Day and
my daughter now has my Christmas china. My son and
daughter have my sterling silver and the crystals, all the
stuff we use for the holidays, but we have traditions
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like I make pecan pie, I make eggnog bread, I
make cranberry bread. I do the baking. My husband always
did the turkey. So when I say I passed.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
The how okay?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Turkey is now residing at my daughter and son's house.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
She's a girl in the kitchen, but she can bake.
And you did tell me about that eggnog.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I'm gonna bring you something. What are you doing for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
What do you entertaining? Of course I can't even count
maybe twenty twenty five pound bird. The soup has already
been made, you know. I make Italian wedding soup, which is.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Because you know I heard the Pilgrims came across with
some Italian wedding soup. That is amazing that you have
kept the recipe.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
But I have graduates to dictating side dishes. I always
and forever did everything on my own. And I'm getting
up there and nobody wants to take that tourch if
you will. So now I have somebody bringing the green
bean casserole, and somebody's always somebody brings pumpkin pie. But
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go ahead and make it. You you want mac and cheese.
Go ahead, you want sweet potatoes.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So do you have traditional foods that you because we
do traditional foods that you only cook on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Only on Thanksgiving and Christmas is the same. And if
I swayed on Christmas Day, they would have heart failure,
heart failure. I am so bored with Christmas dinner.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
So wait, you do the exact same thing for Thanksgiving
and Christmas?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
No, absolutely not, because I'm not that big of a
fan of turkey. So I do the ham. But we
add the Italian to Christmas. It used to be on
Thanksgiving as well, with the raviolis, the meat pulls. Now
they go, what We're not having raviolis not on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Now we add the Jewish. We have cool. No, I'm
just saying we do. We do like pecan pie, sweet potatoes,
We do mashed potatoes, Grady. The stuffing is seems to
be always different. We seem to experiment on stuffing, which
you know, I don't get. But I love Thanksgiving. It's
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my daughter's actually my daughter's favorite holiday. It's not my favorite.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It is one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You know. Why, let me guess you get to cook.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
No, the gift giving, isn't there. It's not that everybody
has to say something they're grateful for. It's a family
day or and or friends. But it's just to be together.
There's no side stuff, no present opening and kids running
around looking, you know, fighting over a gift or the.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Babies I love, We do the same thing. I will
also say my son started this tradition recently with his family.
Every night at dinner they say the highs and lows
for their day, which I love. And so at Thanksgiving,
you know, we always have the same prayer that we
say every year. And you're right, it's about family, it's
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about eating. But come on, come on, vaterination, come stay
with me on this. I love all the food, but
it's craziness right. Everybody eats, you drink, and then you're
staring at piles of dirty dishes. Come on, it's not
all a Norman Rockwell day. Let's be I.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Don't know if anybody else out there is like this,
but Kathy, like you. My grandmother's china would only come
out on Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter. My sisters who never
entertain on a holiday and cook. My one sister doesn't
cook at all. But Lisa is a really good cook,
and they all come. Never ever do I not want
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to put that china out. They have a rule, don't
even think about setting the table. I go, what now, I.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Put it's at your house?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yes you they don't paper plates? Are you ready for this?
Paper turkey plates? Big? They're sturdy and even the silver
I go, are you freaking crazy?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Wait a minute, wait, bait, they're killing me, Hold on
killing me? Hold on. I want everyone to hear this.
You use paper plates on.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Ida, they will. My china will be set right in
front of me.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Okay, I say, your house, your rules. Anyway, I really
cannot believe that the holidays are here. As as you know,
I already have all my Christmas decorations up. But I
really do love to take a moment at Thanksgiving and
really just be in the moment to be grateful for
my family, my friends, my health, and I wish I
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know you do too, But I want to wish everybody
the happiest and healthiest of Thanksgiving. I hope if you're alone,
you find a neighbor, a friend, somewhere to donate your time.
I just hope you find someone to share a meal
with and just look back on the air and be
grateful for all of your blessings, because even though times
are tough.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Say it out loud, say something or a few things
that you're grateful for. I mean, giving thanks is what
this day is about. Also for those that are going
to be sad that I just went to the ups
store a little couple hours ago and she just lost
her dad. It's always seems like it's this time of
the year people lose people. I don't know why that is.
(06:29):
Do you find that, well, it's around the holidays that
Peo will pass.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I don't find that as much. But thanks a lot
for putting that on. I mean, now I'll let you
know somebody dead today. But I think and you and
I've talked about this. For me, the holidays are hard
because I really try to maintain all the traditions. And
we'll talk about this again on another podcast, maybe before
the holidays, but I try to maintain all the traditions
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with my family. But you know what, there's one really
important person missing in my immedia FAMI, and that's my husband.
He's not at the table, and my parents aren't there,
and these were the times when we all got together,
and I think the holidays bring that up. But you
know what, I try to focus on the positive, my grandchildren,
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my children, who is there and who's not there?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So welcoming you prayer. We always talk about those that
aren't with us, and our list is getting so big.
I've lost two brothers, both parents. You know, it's like, okay,
we can't mention them all by name now.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Right well, Susan, I'm wishing you a happy, happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Thank you, Kathy and you, and wishing.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
All our listeners want to happy healthy.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Everybody's stay healthy and be grateful.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And be grateful because we have a lot to be
grateful for.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So how do you make your stuffing? I love this people,
I mean those of you that are listening. Let me know.
Has anybody ever put sausage in their stuffing?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
This is today? That's Canadian? I do, is it?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
My stepmom's recipe had sausage in it and it's delicious.
But I told you, every year we seem to try
a new stuffing, so I never get the same one twice.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Right now, do you stuff the bird or do you
like it on the side big bite? Well, I like
it stuffed.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
We stuffed the bird, but we don't typically eat it
because you know, they're all the things of bacteria and
botulism and you know, things that I can't pronounce with
nineteen syllables. But apparently when you stuff the bird there's
things bacteria that gets in it. So typically I cook
and I have done the stuffing before, do one outside
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the bird and then one inside the bird. Scoop out
the bird. It does flavor it, you know, it does flavor.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
The bird flavors the stuffing.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I'm going to blow your mind right now, Susan, this
is a yes or no? Okay, Kathy, has ever made
turkey soup from the turkey carcass?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You are right?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yes, I guess would you say that cat? That was
a no break?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I know, but you know I don't call it.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Has Susan ever made turkey soup from the carcass?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I'm gonna go no, you're right.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I'm like us I know all that. I'm not doing
that too. I'd give it away and somebody else makes
it and I'll eat it.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Unbelievable. I cannot believe it. Don't make turkey soup? All right? Wow?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I make a lot of soups too.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I know you do. Well.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Happy how about how about the frosting the bird? Okay,
who twenty five pound bird. I'm reading the thing and
I go, oh my gosh, it was like twenty four
hours a pound or something. I was like, wait, wait, wait, no, wait,
I've got five hours per five one day per five pounds.
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I'm like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
God, get out your calculator. I have the funniest story
before we get on with our show here. I was
over to friends, oh gosh, at least a week ago,
and she was so proud. She'd been to Costco and
she had her She goes, you know, turkeys are expensive
and they're hard to find, and you know whatever. And
so she's got the turkey and a couple of us
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are over there having you know, ladies chat night with wine.
And we both look at each other and I said
to my friend, Beth, you what are you talking about.
It's ten days before Thanksgiving. She goes, it can stay
in the refrigerator, said for I started laughing. She knows
that I don't cook, I said, Beth, I don't even
that even I know that one. She goes, are you serious? Wait?
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It gets worse. She goes, I'll just stick it back
in the freeze or I.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Said, you cannot well frosted already.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yes, oh yeah, yeah out. I said, you have two
choices to say, throw that bird out or cook it
tomorrow and bring me some turkey. I don't know what
she did.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Because one of those deep fried turkeys.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I live in Texas. I have.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, I mean it's okay, it's just it's not. The
house does and smell good, and that beautiful golden turkey
that sits there just shining.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I actually love turkey. I mean I love. You're going
to be shocked, as you know, Susan. I can cook,
I just don't. I make a homemade cranberry sauce. None
of this crap out of the can for me. I
make if. When I used to cook and have Thanksgiving hair,
like I said, my husband Darryl did did the bird.
The kids as I got older, would bring you know,
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the mashed potatoes or something. Well really not because my
husband had to have them a certain way, so he
made those two. But I would do all the baking
and I would make homemade cranberry sauce. Now, can I
give you reason number four thousand, nine hundred and sixty two.
I don't anymore because I would spend the time making it,
and my kids would come over and go, where's the
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sliced you know, the ocean spray out of the camp
what I mean, really, it's just like, really, kids, what
about salad?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
It's like, you know how you prepare a beautiful salad
with every meal? Right, most meals?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
We don't do green.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Salad on the holidays, they don't make the salad, don't
we never?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
No? But do you Okay, Susan, We're going to show
our age here. Do you make jello salads?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I've had them?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Now? Okay? Can I tell you I saw in the news,
and we all know everything you see in here on
TV is true. They they said that jello salads are
making a huge comeback this year, and I have some
great ones with Coca Cola that it's like a fizzy salad.
I might crank them out again and make.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
People.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm just trying to prove to everyone that I can cook,
so when mister Wright does come along, I can cook
and be fabulous Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Did you make your own whipped cream?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I do make my. I absolutely when I make all
my pies, I make homemade whip cream. I'm weird baking.
I will do anything from scratch. I make my own pie.
I do not baker.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I am.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You know why I'm a good baker, and you know
why you're not. I love you.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Measure out everything and follow the direction and baking. A
little bit more of this or a little pinchon, not.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
In baking, not in baking. In baking, if you put
in a little too much baking powder or baking soda,
the thing is going to rise right over the pan.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You have to measure, or if you forget it, it
won't rise at all.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well exactly, but I'm saying, I am, I measure. You're
exactly right, and baking is a precise.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I do make cookies Italian cookies only once a year
around Christmas, and this year, and of course I make
the regards to cookies, and you got to ice in
every one of them and put the sprinkles on them,
the whole bit. But this year, my sisters and I
do a cookie day at my house. I have the
smallest oven, the biggest house, but the smallest oven. They've
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got these grand ovens. Nobody goes to these. They just
like to destroy mine. And we have music playing and
Mimosa's going. It's fun and we're all full of flour,
and who's making this? Everybody makes a different cookie. Well,
this year I also go to a cookie exchange, and
it's usually the day after me and my sisters. Guess what.
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This year, my cookie exchange is the day before I
make cookies. So now I got to throw that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
In the mix or Susan, it would not be beneath me.
I got to be honest. Making Christmas cookies. I do
it with the grandkids to ice. You know, the sugar cookies,
but that dough and stuff, I don't. I just buy
the sugar cookies and we cut them out and decorate them.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But what I'm doing with grandkids, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I have never Well, actually I went to a cookie
exchange once and they're a nightmare. They're a nightmare. People.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Do you guys like cookie exchange? Because what I bring
home half of it I wouldn't even eat.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, it's like, you know what, to me, I'm gonna
take flak for this. Cookies exchange to me are like
are like Halloween getting a banana. You know, some of
you a sliced apple, Like, no, thank you. I want
to make my own cookies.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Kathy. We could go on talking forever but it's time
to get into the episode. So let's start with the
question of the day. Okay, Kat, what do you think
about Cereal daters and what do you think are the
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most important things they miss out on by never being single?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Okay, so I'm going to hold on to your chair, Susan,
I'm going to ask you to explain something to me. Okay,
are you ready? A serial dater to me means someone
who never settles down with one person. They're just constantly
That is the Cereal comes in constantly dating people. They
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got Sally one night, Susie the next, and if you're
a god, you're right, yes, yes, Okay, So my question is.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
They never commit?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Well, they never commit. But the question I have is
a question on the question of the day. Is it
that they don't ever want to be single or what
you just said that they don't want to commit? Because
I'm not sure. So that's my question. Do you think
being a serial dater means they're afraid or missing out
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I'm being single?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
What do you think that that's what they enjoy and
they only want to date so they don't want to commit.
But what the question read was what do you think
are the most important things they miss out on by
never being single. I think what you would miss out
on is meeting the right person, like when you're not
looking and you're not crazily dating one hundred people.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But maybe they don't want it. That's my point. That's
exactly right, that is my point. I think people who
are serial I think it's a this is a judgy
question in my book, because some people don't want to
be committed. I have friends now at this age who
say to me, I don't want to be with one man.
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I like going out and dating. And do they like
being alone? Yeah, they spend time by the one, they
travel by themselves, So I don't think they're necessarily connected,
I think, is what I'm saying. I think that people
who are serial daters either what you just said, don't
want to commit, or they just like you know, varieties
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of spice of life.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Are they dated more than one person at one time?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Could you say no? I mean I've had a date
with someone and then a week later gone out with
someone else, and then maybe gone back and had a
date with the first guy. But no, I don't listen.
I'm old. I can barely remember the days of the
week at this point. Let's see, was it John tonight Jim?
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I could not keep that together. No, but I'd be
good at serial dating at all.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I'm I'm a relationship person.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I am too, I am too, but I think I
think for me, I am definitely single. Sad to say
at this point, but I think I don't miss out
if if I am dating, do you feel like you're
missing out? You are actually a good example, Susan. You
have to be dating. You're rarely single. I mean now
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you're really not single. But you've always said to me
for years but no, but you always had someone to
date you always. No, I went years, well since you
met me.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
After you met me, I didn't meet Frederic until this year.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
No, you were dating you dad several dates with guys
in the time i've known you. Do we need a
list dates?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Because I went back to somebody I was familiar with,
the hang out with that date.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
No, no, no, but then you had some other guys
you dated. I don't know. For me, I don't mind.
I'm very happy being by myself, and I've had to
come to terms with that because I never thought I
would be so.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
But what he thinks that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, But I think for me, like they're serial dating,
which is you know, I need.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
To ask you something serial daters. Okay, so a man
dates constantly? Yeah, And for me, looking at that picture,
I wouldn't be able to ask him certain questions like
well what are we doing this week? Because you got
to wait for him to ask you for another date?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Relationship.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
What if he's dating serial dating but he dates the
same person every week.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well you're wait a second, You're saying he's the serial
dat I'm saying, what if I'm dating, which I haven't done.
But if I'm dating, let's call it three guys at
a time, you know, And and I maybe I'm going
to call him and say, hey, Rick, do you want
to go to the Ballue Festival and Albuquerque with me
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next weekend? I mean, it doesn't always have to be
the guy. I'm saying. For me, I can't do it.
It's too I can't keep my own day straight. You know,
I would get their names confused even I mean, yeah,
I don't necessarily think people miss out on anything not
being single. If they, I think it's a it's a lifestyle,
it's a choice, And I don't think it's a bad
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thing necessarily to be a serial date or if date.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I'm sorry, I wouldn't want to date a serial dater
because my idea of dating is getting to know somebody
to go into a relationship and get comfortable with. To me, dating,
you don't have sex, you don't ask certain questions, you
don't expect things like you would in any relationships.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, I think, I think, I know this wasn't precisely
the question, but you and I often go rogue on
these things. I think the bigger issue is what you
just said. You have to know if you're dating a
serial dater, what the limitations are, and if you're both
good with it, great. But to your point, don't go
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dating a serial dater who you know is dating you
Friday night, somebody else, Saturday night, somebody else for brunch
on Sunday, and be expecting that you're going to turn
him or her around because you're probably all right. Let's
get into our fan questions and see if somebody wants
to know about serial dating today. I'm going to start
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us off here we go. Question one is from anonymous. Hi, ladies,
I need to know if this is something I should
compromise on, so I was using my boyfriend's iPad the
other day. He gave me the password when he got
it and told me I could use it whenever, and
he accidentally left his journal up. When I realized, I
went to swipe away, but I saw my name. I
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only caught a glimpse of it, and it was about
him hating that I swear so much. I really wish
I didn't see it, but now it's stuck in my head.
We've been together for over a year and he's never
brought this up before. Should I say something? I don't
even really swear that much. I'm not sure what to
do and would love any advice you have. Thank you. Oh,
I can answer this so quickly. Don't say a word
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so quickly. You want to be your boyfriend. It's really simple, sweetie.
Stop swearing. Stop swearing, that's all. It's that simple. And
your boyfriend your boyfriend. I would bring it up to
him after you go six months without swearing. I might say, hey, Johnny,
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did you notice that I don't say the F word.
I don't say you know, you know, the whole like
saying I'm on air? Did you notice? And when he
looks and says yeah, say you know what. I saw
it in your iPad that you didn't like me swearing,
and I like you so much that I made change
few And oh, by the way, be careful what you
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put in your iPad because I do have the password.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
No, I would never I'm kidding.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I was joking at the last. But I think I
don't think it's I don't think.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I mean, it doesn't sound like she read the whole
thing she just saw.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I mean, i'd let it go. I would just stop swearing.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
And I would stop swearing, try to be more.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I mean, ship, how do you stop swearing? Susan? Damn it, Kathy.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I mean, but that's a good one, Anonymous, Like, never
tell you it, because it's not like you were snooping.
You just want to use it. But first of all,
I'm impressed that a man still writes a journal. Okay,
you have to leave it up on his iPads. Maybe
he wanted her to see that.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
There you go, Look at you conspiracy theorists over here.
I think, I mean, listen, what I would say is
get your own epad, stop using his, and ever.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Oh you ever, you want to know things that bother
him so you don't do them anymore. That's like a gift.
It's a gift, and if you really do like him,
and I swear a lot too, but I don't swear
like at people, but I just say stupid words. Anyhow,
I said.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Wait a minute, I have to ask a question. The
first question she said was I need to know if
this is something I should compromise on. What compromise, sweetheart? Anonymous?
I mean, it's either hell yes or hell no. You're
either there's no comp You're going to say shit every
other day.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I mean, well, maybe because she's obviously thinking she doesn't
do it that much, but maybe it's more than she realizes.
So just take it to a self check.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Okay, So we were talking earlier about compromise and settling.
This would clearly be a compromise issue, and probably Anonymous
the smallest one you're ever going to compromise on. I mean,
is he a.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Goody two shoes? Though? I mean, does he not even
say damn? Like we don't know who we're dealing with.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I don't know, but I find it interesting that you
and I were talking about compromises an earlier podcasttling, compromising
and settling. This is clearly not settling. It's you know,
life is tough, anonymous, life gets tough if you're happy
with your boyfriend, compromise and I put quotes around it.
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Stop your damn swearing.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Okay, And he's never brought it up to you, so
just leave well enough alone. That was a little gift
from your little guardian angel saying there's one thing that
he's not real it doesn't care for, so just alter
it a little bit. Don't change overnight and be holier
than now, you know, just be you. But just be aware,
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that's all.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, be aware and be agree now. Yes, God, if
that's the biggest issue you and your boyfriend had, no,
you're lucky. I want to meet his old I want
to meet his father, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
The next one, Kathy is from Shelley. Okay, She says, Hi,
Kathy and Susan. I need to know if I am overreacting.
My boyfriend has always had a crush on a really
popular influencer.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh no, him talk.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
About her once when it came up in a group setting.
But I'm fully aware of how he feels about her. Lol. Well,
during a game night with our friends, he was asked
if he has a celebrity Hall pass, to which he
stated this influencer. We've never discussed this, and it honestly
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really put me off. I hate the idea of hall
passes and would not be comfortable with that since it's
so unlikely it'll ever happen as it's is it worth
me bringing up that I am not okay with it?
I guess since she's an influencer and not a full
blown celebrity, it feels slightly more possible. I just can't
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get it out of my head. Let me know if
you think I'm overreacting? Can I just say one thing?
It's not fun to be jealous, but that's what this is.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Can I can I? I mean, we're going to talk
about this, but Shelley, first of all, when you said
your boyfriend All has always had a crush on a
really popular influencer, damn, Shelley, you found out about me?
Just kidding? Yes, she is overreacting. Yes, so let me
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just say my Kathy school me hall past Okay? I
knew year That's where I was going. A lot of
people don't know what it means. A hall past means
if if you know, if I have a if I
have a crush on Matthew McConaughey and I'm hey, can
I have a hall pass? Meaning if Matthew McConaughey comes around,
you know, I can get it on.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
With the past with your partner.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
In other words, a hall past means if Matthew McConaughey
rings my doorbell and I'm married or in a relationship,
it's okay. If Matthew and I got yes, it's.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Okay with your whoever person.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, it's called the hall pass, like.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
They know the hall passes.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Well, come on, are you overreacting, Shelley, Yes, you are.
My kids talk about hall passes with each other. You
know that somebody an athlete that one finds attractive or
a Hollywood star. I mean, it's it's more just a
kind of a fun thing. I think Susan's right, jealousy,
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especially of somebody who's out in the lithosphere, who has
probably no chance of ever meeting your boyfriend. And it's
like it's like a celebrity crush.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Really, I mean, and I know how she feels, because
I feel like, well, I want him to think that
about me. I want him to get excited about me instead.
Are you serious sure I've always done that?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
No? No, No, you're going to have a problem if
Frederic has a celebrity crush on Jennifer Aniston or.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Or my ex husband loved Julie Roberts.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And that bothered you. No, okay, well that's what we're
talking about here, a really popular influencer, which means that
she is probably on social media and she's who cares.
I don't mean to make life. No, I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I do agree with it. But it's the feeling that
he thinks somebody's all that when you want him to
think you're all I'm sorry feeling right now?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Insecure? You're both insecure, Yes, both of you, Shelley, you
and Susan dy debl little conversation.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I'm graduated, trust me, I'm sixty, Okay, I have.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I think it's cute. When you really gotta worry, Shelley,
is when he's telling you he's got a crush on
the girl next door literally who lives next doory, then
you might have a problem. Or he spends too much
time with the boss's wife. Now you got a problem.
So do I think you're overreacting? One? Yes?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Shall we He obviously thinks he's hot. Yeah, but somebody
that you think's hot, that's all.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
But he's your boyfriend, you know, enjoy it and relax.
I really think you're overreacting. And I don't mean to
make a funny er, Shelley, but let it go, Let
it go.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Okay, all right, Today we're going to do another Golden Spotlight.
This time we're talking about grandchildren that we adore. Kathy, Okay,
how to ask your children politely about when they're having kids,
balancing your children's wishes as parents, and your wisdom about
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parenting as a grandparent. What it's like.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Well, let's take one of the Okay, just take one
at a time. The let's start with I have never
asked my children if and when they were having kids.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Did you No, I did not, and I got surprised
early on.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah. I don't think it's appropriate to ask your children
when they're having kids. That's their decision. And I will
tell you my husband and I were married eight and
a half years before we had our first child, and
my fabulous in laws, yes, they did say when are
you going to have children? You know, and then we
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have three they said when are you going to stop
having children? So, you know, I have learned to never
ask those questions. I think that is we know that
we love being grandparents, and we don't. Some people don't
say it with any malicious intent. It's really I just
want to be a grandmother. I want to be a grandfather.
But I really think you don't know what's going on
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behind clothes stores. You don't You don't know if your
children can afford the child. You don't know if job,
you don't know, if they maybe can't get pregnant. You
know what, worry about your own life, not your children's.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And I think a lot of this is and this
is difficult for many many grandparents. When you're watching your
child in their spouse or your you know, whether it's
your son or your daughter, how they're raising their children,
and what you don't agree with some things, it's really
(32:31):
difficult to bite your damn tongue. I might have picked
my tip off a couple times. I think it's only
once or twice that I've actually raised my voice for
my opinion that I think they're dead wrong and you
really need to think about this.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Well. I will tell you I to stay your neutral. Yeah,
but and that tells.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
You when you walk away, Kathy, it eats me up.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Well, I stay neutral for the most part, except a cage.
First of all, you know, my son is read married,
the one Kyle, the one you you officiate his wedding
and his my granddaughter, who's seven, is just an angel.
I mean, but you know she's a product of divorce.
She's had to grow up quickly. She has great manners.
I think my son, Kyle, if you are listening, I
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think you are a fabulous dad. Now my daughter and
there they have a two year old. And but I
she's gonna kill me for saying this. The other day
I said, Caitlyn, you're raising a terrorist. I mean, the
child is so stubborn. I love her, I laugh, But
I ky, no, I am not stubborn. She except her father,
(33:41):
Oh yeah, he is stubborn. Caitlyn can be stubborn. But
oh no, this child. There's a There is now a
picture of my granddaughter in the dictionary under the word stubborn.
But I say very little, like occasionally I will say
something and my daughter now listens to me because you know,
I don't know if you know this, Susan, but I was
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very stupid in my daughter's eyes until she had a child.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Oh I share that. I told you she calls me, now,
how did you do this?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I do think that we have wisdom, and I think
our kids, when they want our advice, they'll ask for it. Unfortunately,
there is a dichotomy between the amount of advice they
want and the amount of advice we want to give.
Is the problem.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
But I try to ask by all means, we'll give
them our opinion.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Or oh, come on, are you saying you never give
advice when you're not asked?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
No, I try not to with Brittany, I do you
try Christopher. I jump in if I think he's too
hard on Mason, and I'll say it. I jump in
more when I think they're being unreasonable and you're having
a bad day and you're taking it out on your kids.
You know, we just had a situation like that and
Dickie was venting with me and I said, you know, Dickie,
(35:05):
I did those things. He goes. She was cussing like
he didn't do anything wrong. I said, we've had you
weren't here, you were off playing baseball. I was dealing
with kids day in, day out, and they didn't submit
their homework or their project on time. Yet it was done.
I am frustrated I'm having a bad day, and yes,
we do stupid things that we regret, but it happens,
(35:27):
So don't judge them for that.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, I mean I don't, and I don't think you
do either. I want to know, on a scale of
one totten season, how much do you like being a grandmother?
Oh my god, someone Susan's grandmother's name is Mimi and
I'm Kiki. So how do you like being a me?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Me? I love it. I love it. I love it
beyond because they love me. They love me. They're never
mad at me because I always say yes most of
the time. I mean, I have said no, but it
kills me.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
So the little terrorist who shall go nameless when I
when I come into our house lately, she'll look at
me well when I first come to go Kiki, and
she'll run and hug and kiss me. And then it's like, oh,
now it's time to have dinner or something, and I'll say, Okay,
we're gonna get up in your height chair or whatever,
and she'll say no, Kiki, no, and Kiki sit there.
(36:15):
I mean, I'm telling you, the child I kills it.
I love those my two granddaughters like no other. I
don't think I was prepared for how much I would
love them now I don't know. But here's my question.
I mean, we know Frederick lives, so you just have
to work with me here. How do you feel about
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moving away? Because I know your your daughter's children don't
live quite as close but pretty close. How would you
feel about but Chris's daughter you see a lot. How
would you feel about not being able to see your grandchildren?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Like like every weekly baseless, I'd have to there would
be some rules that I would get here every eight
ten weeks.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, oh see, I have my things. I would mine
would be once a month if I would come and
spend a week out of every month if I could,
because they grow so fast, they.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Do, and you miss so many things Like there I
was with you actually on the cruise and Estella had
her first dance recital and I wasn't there and it
killed me, but it killed my son even Moore, Yeah exactly,
but I was there for her first cheerleading game in
the writing, so at least I got to do that.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
So you know, there's do you see that's it? Can't
do you see? I see my children doing some of
the things that I did as a parent. I see
them do now, even though, like I'll give you an example. Uh,
Kyle's daughter, my granddaughter, Linley, she plays piano. And you
(37:49):
don't know this, or maybe you do. My three kids
were uh they won competitions, they had offers for free
rides for music. I mean they were really good. But
but I I was a terrorist. They practiced an hour
a day every day. They were really accomplished pianists, and
they used to bitch and moan about it. But now
(38:11):
Kyle has Linley taking piano, and he's not as rigid.
I mean, who could be as I was about practice,
But I see that he realizes how important it is
a musical instrument is.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
And then and you're paying a lot of money to
have them get lessons and the piano itself and so on.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
It's just it's just it's the it's the structure of
its first of all. I mean, I love music and
I love hearing piano, but it's the structure of this
is part of your day. You're going to practice in
Lindley might only practice ten minutes. But I love seeing Kyle,
you know, you know, tapping out the beat like I
used to and just see what you know, seeing him.
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It's like you see the next genera with.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Her, and that's important. That's a great bonding moment, even
though she's a bitch about it sometimes. But she's young yet.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
So what is the hardest challenge you find about being
a grandparent other than us keeping our mouth shut about
this one? What's the hardest thing you find about being
a grandparent.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I don't think anything's hard except when I, like you said,
other than my children being too hard on them? What's
hard for me? The youngest ones, the two four year olds.
I don't know that I'll be here for their wedding.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Oh, Susan, they're four Kat a two year old. I'm
going to be there for her wedding. I'm older than
you are. I think positive girlfriend put out the universe.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
You asked me what I thought. That's what I told you.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
All right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I don't find anything hard except.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
You're gonna laugh, and you're gonna laugh when I say this, okay,
And I can't believe I'm beting this. So. My sister
lives in Canada, is the most creat native person on
the planet. Like she When we went there this summer,
she had made capes for the granddaughters and hair ribbons
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and she mixed up on egg cartons. I don't know where.
I don't know where it comes. She is so creative.
That's not who I am. But but a challenge for
me is trying when when I babysit them coming up
with activities because I want my grandchildren to want to
come and spend time with me. And I know that
(40:31):
it's all my friends who have older grandchildren say Kathy
and enjoy I'm young because when they get to be teenagers,
the last thing they want to do is come to
Kiki's house. So it is a challenge for me to
come up with things when they're little. You know, you
can put them in the stroller and we're going to
go leaf hunting, turtle hunting, look at the birds up
the park. I'm saying all those things.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Come to Walmart or the dollar store and let them
pick out new things like the stella the other day,
got prestol and finger nails and I have to come
home and do it or polish their nails for girls.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yes, well that kind of stuff. I'll do that, But
I'm I'm I'm trying to my grandmother with an experienced grandmother.
I remember planting bulbs in the garden with our song.
I'm constantly trying to come up with those things that
my granddaughters will remember as opposed to taking them shopping.
I want to have experiences and it's.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
A challenge shopping too.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Kath Well, your grandchildren, well mine are like.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
No, we dig in the dirt. We do.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
That's a challenge for me.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
In Tovy. Tovy digs in the dirt with me and
they want to water the flowers and me me, this
one really needs it.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, it's but you know what, it's good. We're leaching.
But we're teaching them that their place in community, that
there's more important things than themselves.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
iPad time, Like, yeah, I had her not too long
ago for the day and I remember asking her mother,
is her iPad in there is a charge? She said yes,
we never got on it. We didn't have enough time.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
In a second, that was I don't let you let
your I do not my so my my Linley her mother,
And I'm sad to say this. Linley is on the
iPad all the time. She would go outside when not
at her dad's house, no iPads. When she comes to
my house, there is no TV unless like late at night,
(42:28):
well not late night, but you know, after dinner, we
might watch half an hour something on Disney to get
her settled for bed. But I am that's technology is
absolutely no. When I have my granddaughter, they have enough.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
When I'm cooking dinner and she's not just getting tired
and I'll let her sit with her iPad and put
a movie on it for yeah, on the TV. And
we never even get to watch the whole thing. Yeah,
but that's about the only time because we stay busy, okay,
rainy day. We color, we you know, try to play
a game. We dance, we put the.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Music up before we Before we leave this topic, I
have to I have to say this one of the
best things. I never thought I would say it, one
of the best things about being a grandparent. They come
and they go, and they go. I love on them.
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We play, We have so much fun. Kiss love. I mean,
I'll do anything, and then and then it's like here
you go, honey, bye bye. Kiki loves you KEI sees
it and we facetimed. Yeah, kisses exactly. I mean, I
love them. But when I was in my fifties, you're
gonna think got nuts. When I was in my fifties,
(43:44):
I used to think about, you know, adopting a child.
I talked about and he looked me like I was crazy.
But I I still have the energy if you want
to be honest to raise a child. I'm just more
selfish now. And there's other things I wanted to but
I have to ad meet. Handing them back over is
like okay, yeah, bye, love you. Okay, well that is
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so much fun. We thank thank you to our listeners
for joining us today. We hope you learned about grandparenting
what I don't you know what? I would love to
hear your ideas. Please send me your ideas for cra crafts.
I need craft and they have to be really simple.
Don't tell me to like get egg Carton's and you know,
cut them with fringe scissors, like oh yes, anyway, And
(44:31):
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Speaker 2 (44:57):
A good week.