November 24, 2025 • 36 mins
Today on “Happy Hour,” Joe and Serena are diving into some of your questions! The two are dishing out a much-needed catch-up and giving us all the tea on their lives and much more. We get into their recent vacations and the highs and lows of their trip, plus Serena shares some solid advice to travelers with dietary restrictions! Then, we get into all things weddings. From how they spent their anniversary to the big dos and don’ts of guest attire, we’re getting into it all! Plus, we hear their “Bachelor” thoughts: Who’s their favorite villain of all time? What celeb would they choose to be the next Bachelor? And if they could design one date for “The Bachelor,” what would it be? Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Back to Half the Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and this is the week
of Thanksgiving, so we are going to do a little
special episode.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Just Serena and I answering some questions and talking for
thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You guys, ready, buckle up, everyone, It's just me and
Joe today.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
That's right. Well, we got you know, we got a
lot to talk about. We've We've done a lot over
the past couple of months. I feel like we've been
fucking traveling every goddamn minute.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah. We spent a lot of time at the airports,
and as much as I'm grateful, I am tired.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah. I don't know why I had to swear so
much there.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It was very aggressive aggressive.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I came, Jesus, Okay, so, uh do you want to
ask the first one? Or how do you want to
do this? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We got a couple fan questions here. We have a
list in front of us, so I think we'll just
fly through them and see how many we get through.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah. Ready, Yeah, I mean you didn't really answer my question.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
What was your question?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I ask how we doing this? I said, you want
to go first?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
My sister says, I need to be better at active listening.
I think I'm a pretty good active listener, but sometimes
my thoughts overpower the question, which I guess is the
definition of being a bad active listener.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Actually, yeah, you do actually have to be a better
active listener. I I've actually been noticing that too. Really, yeah,
I mean, I just, I mean, you're just totally blown
past what I asked.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You know, I know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
You know, you gotta you know, you're you're smaller, so
you see, so you're you're chattier.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh is that how it works? I'm so little, I
just can't stop talking. Please reask your question, and I
swear I'll listen this time.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Do you want to go first?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Okay, there we go.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Okay, So the first question that we have was how
was your trip to Scotland as well as our trip
to soul and Osaka and Tokyo. Let's start with Scotland.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, Scotland's great. I love Scotland. I mean Saint Andrew's.
It's like if you if you, if you love golf,
Saint Andrews is like the mecca of It's like the
capital the start of golf. It feels like so that
place was great, and I will say we were able
to spend like twenty four hours in Edinburgh, which I
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would love to go back because I really liked that.
In Borough it was like a little it seemed to
me like a pocket of London.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I agree, Yeah, Yeah, Saint Andrews was actually Scotland in general.
I guess wasn't really somewhere that was majorly on my
bucket list, not for any specific reason. I just it
just wasn't that high up there on my desirable destinations.
But Saint Andrew's. We weren't together a ton in St
Andrew's because you were working a lot, but it was
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so quaint, it was so beautiful, the people were so friendly,
and I did get to walk nine holes with you
on that one golf course and I was having a blast.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah. I will say though that the what is it,
hagis the side?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah I chicked. So if you don't know what fings it,
maybe you don't want to know, but we're going to
tell you. It's like stomach in testines or like stomach lining.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Isn't it something like something something along those lines.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, of like a cow. So I chickened out. I
didn't try it. But one of the guys that we
were there with who is from Scotland, was like, there's
different forms of trying hagis and the best one is
when they're like fried into little deep fried balls. What
do you try like a scramble it was in your burrito?
Was Yeah, it was just like in what kind of
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flavor was it? You know, it wasn't the texture.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It wasn't the texture. It's more it was just I
don't love lamb and it had it like it.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Had that like a gamey flavor.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
At least that's kind of what I maybe I would.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Have liked it then. And then yeah, we were only
in Edinburgh for like just under twenty four hours. We
had crazy weather in Edinburgh, Like it was windy, it
was own pouring rain. We were trying to be so
brave walking around the city and seeing it, and then
after a while we just had to call it quits
because it was it was.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Wild trying to be so brief. I will see that
we're trying.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
To be soper. Really it's okay. You know, we got
our jackets on, we got our umbrellas like it so
what like we'll get a little wet, but no we
got a lot wet.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The Shume was really good though. I love the Shome.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
The Shome is so good. I love to Shume so much.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Okay, And then like we don't have to break down
every aspect of the Agia trip, but like out of
I would say, out of Soul, Osaka, and Tokyo, what
was your favorite?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Probably Tokyo. Yeah, if I was going to go back
to one of them right now, I would choose Tokyo
just because I feel like there's so much to see. Like,
we were there for five days, but I could go
do I could go do another five days and have
a totally new experience. Osaka we were there for two
and I feel like we saw it. Not that I
wouldn't go back. I would still recommend it. And Sol
(05:01):
Sol I loved, but it was a little bit hard
with the cuisine and my net allergy and the language barrier.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I will say though, the Four Seasons in Sooul was
probably my favorite.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Hotel me too.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I loved that place.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It was incredible.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
That is the highlight of my trip, the.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Four Seasons in Seoul. Yeah, your favorite part about travel
really is staying at nice hotels.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Nice hotels. What am I gonna do.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I don't blame you, Sumi like nice hotels.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Sumi Serena. What advice do you have to anyone traveling
with dietary restrictions? I was expecting that question.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Okay, Well, as you guys know, I just mentioned I
have a severe nut allergy. My go to is to
I usually use like a translator app or CHATCHYBT works great,
and I translate like something very simple of just like
I have a severe nut allergy, please do not serve
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me nuts of any kind. And then sometimes we'll put
like nut oils, nut products, et cetera, and I'll screenshot
it and I'll make it my lock screen on my phone,
so that if there is a language barrier to where
I feel like they're not understanding me, I can just
show that. And a lot of the times that helps.
In Spain that came clutch. Italy was actually like really
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good with dietary restriction. Yeah, Italy was incredible with dietary restrictions.
Oh my god, it was so impressed. So yeah, that's
my go to. I did printed cards for this trip
because we were going to Korea and also Japan, and
I found that was easier because the language barrier was
so strong. A lot of the time they would take
the card from me and like take it to the
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back into the kitchen and then come back out and
tell me. And it was just something where it was
like cre tate the card, you can keep it, like
throw it away whatever. I got like a hundred printed
on canva, And that's my number one thing. I guess
on top of that, Like you know, I have a
lot of anxiety and my allergy, but just doing everything
I can to be like conscientious of it, bringing my EpiPens,
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trusting the people that are telling me there's no nuts
and if I don't trust where we are, we don't
feel safe. Joe and I will leave a restaurant just
like respectfully say hey, sorry, like we're not going to
eat here, because there's really no point in taking a risk,
like it'll really ruin the whole trip and potentially our
whole lives. Yeah, well, okay, Joe, how was your experience
(07:23):
running the marathon this year? And how do you prepare?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I love marathon day and I really enjoy training.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I didn't Yes, what part of training do you like?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I just enjoy training for something. I just love that,
like schedule in runnings like therapy for me. Yeah, like
my golf lessons, and so I enjoy that aspect for sure.
And I really like the day of the marathon because
it's like, this is what you've been working for. It's exciting,
it's a great day. I didn't score as well as
I wanted to. I think I I broke down around
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like mile eighteen and I got really like because I
wore the ankle compression sleeves and it was the first
time I wore them, and they cut off halfway through
my foot that I had just massive blisters that exploded
on the bottom of my feet.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
They were actually the biggest blisters I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It was just I was like the blood in my
socks was like I was like, oh, this is terrible.
And then like for like for like they got infected
and then I was basically like five days I could
barely walk.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah. He was on a full antibiotic and had a
prescription cream because these blisters were so out of control.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, I think I think if I run it, if
I run another marathon, I will definitely just take more
care of my feet far as far as like vasoline
before I run.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, not using new products yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I and I switched shoes a lot during during training,
and that kind of messed me up a little bit.
So it's just like, yeah, like making sure that my
shoes fit right and kind of like just like those
little things and keeping it simple, and then I think
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know. In your defense, though, I feel like you
broke down around mile eighteen because your Garmin watched die,
so you weren't able to track your pace at all.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
No I mean no, no, no, I mean not being
able to track my pace was not great.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But did you not charge your watch?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I did, but it got disconnected, so there was was
connectivity issues and that just totally fucked me up. But
that was not why it was because I just I
I need to run more twenty mile runs prior to
the marathon, ohcha, which is a lot of running, and
I just don't know if I want to do those
(09:46):
miles anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, well you do the marathon again.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Do you think I always say no and then I
always do it?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So that's true.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
How did you guys spend your second anniversary?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Where were we?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I think we're at your parents' house eating chicken?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Oh yeah, we were at my parents' house. Chicken.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, because remember I gave you your gift and you
had like you were like not finished with your chicken.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Was it on our actual anniversary you gave me my gift?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah? Yeah, oh no, I was before classic move.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So our big trip that we took to Asia was
kind of like the way we chose to celebrate our anniversary.
We usually take a trip in like September October, and
that's kind of like our quote unquote anniversary celebration. The
day of for us is like not as big of
a deal, like we don't do anything crazy, but we
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were at my parents' house, so we did celebrate with
them and we just had a chill night at home.
Joe got me a beautiful necklace as a gift this
year for our anniversary, so that was really nice. And yeah,
that's kind of it. I don't even really remember the
exact day what we did, if I'm being totally honest.
We were in Toronto hanging out Roman so romantic is
(11:07):
it my trim?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Okay, sorry. Next question is would you ever do a
vow renewal? No? Probably not.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I mean, just by the way we celebrate our anniversaries,
I think I.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Like that anniversaries and like holidays and stuff aren't huge
for us. I feel like we do a good job
throughout the year of making the most of like just
not even celebrating, but like we're childless, Like we go
on trips together, we go on lots of date nights,
and do fun things together. I feel like maybe when
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you have kids, it's like more motivation to prioritize those
moments and make them special for just the two of you.
But you know, I feel like we're doing fun, special
things all year round, so.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Do I mean, yeah, we really do, yeah, which.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Is which is so wonderful. So when it comes down
to the anniversaries, is a lot of time we just
want to like be together and hang out and which
is kind of fun. But for the vow renewal, I
could see us doing like an anniversary party, like if
like a ten year anniversary party or something, just because
I loved our wedding and it made so much fun
with all of our friends, it'd be fun to like
throw a party. But I don't know, if I need
(12:14):
to do a vow renewal, you wouldn't do an anniversary party.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Ten no, no, no, I don't I find that like
I don't know. I just oh, yeah, like, come celebrate us.
We've been together for ten years? Whoop the fucking do? Like? Ever?
So many people have been together for ten years? I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Okay, maybe if we make it to like fifty.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Years, I think thirty. Oh okay, I think thirty.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
My parents just celebrated thirty.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I think thirty. Yeah, I'll take this.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Oh my god, why.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Because I just know that you you are you struggle
a little bit with uh the questions.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I think I'm doing a great job. I'm reading them
off my phone. If you think I'm not capable of
reading a question.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I think you are. But I think, but I see
you already jumping ahead, caring for the question because you prepare.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well, I'm just skimming.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You'll see what's up, what's to come. But final, I'll
let you shock me if that's what you want, I do.
I could be stunned by the question. I actually haven't
read the next question. If that surprises you, okay, oh,
oh my god? You slipping my phone away.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It feels like you guys have been to so many
weddings lately. What advice do you have to anyone showing
up to a wedding where they don't know many of
the other guests, which is which hasn't really been happening
to you as much lately, but me more.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
This year, we had four weddings, and one of them
was Joe's brother's wedding, which was so much fun. It
was incredible, and we obviously knew a ton of people
because it was his whole family, his friend group, and
also I had gone on our now sister in law's
bachelortte party. We know her family, so that was great.
And then it was two of my friend's weddings, who
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I obviously know most people there, you don't. And then
we went to his manager's wedding, who I would say,
we didn't really know most people there. So I feel
like when you both, like when you're in a couple
and Joe and I both don't know a lot of
people there, it's almost easier if we.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Like without a doubt.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, well, I mean, look, the best weddings is the
ones where you know a lot of people. Yeah, But like,
for example, at his manager's wedding, it was like we're
just hanging out, the two of us and trying to
chat with people at our table and get to know
people and grab a drink, and it's way better.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I actually prefer it much more when we both don't
know anybody, opposed to one person doesn't know anyone and
the other person knows everyone, because then that's a little
But like for the most part, all the weddings we
go to, like we know someone.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I mean at your manager's wedding, I don't know if
we really knew anyone.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Well, we knew him and his wife.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well, yeah, that's why we're there because we love them.
But yeah, yeah, I feel like when you don't know
anyone there, it's usually a lower pressure wedding because you're
probably not super super involved in the lives of the
bride and groom. Otherwise you would like know their family.
If it's a childhood best friend, you're probably in the
wedding party, or if it's like a family member, you
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know you are a little it's a little bit more
of a high stakes wedding. So I think it's like
you kind of just show up. It's a party, you
have fun, and you head out, Whereas when one of
us knows someone, then it's a little bit more of
a balancing act of like, okay, I'm a bride'smaid. We
got to set you up with a plan. But then
you'll usually vibe with like one of my friend's husbands
or something. Yeah, I vibe, but I love weddings.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I'm over weddings.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
No, I love them though, and we got more to come,
so buckle.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Up, Serena. Yeah, what are your dos and don't for
wedding guests? Attire?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Oh okay, so.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
See, I knew you would like being surprise.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
So it depends on what the attire is. I guess
if it's black tie, show up in a tux and
girls you need to be in a floor length gown,
not a floor length dress like it needs to be.
I think more formal, but I'm less worried about the
girlies usually. I think black tie is usually more to
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make sure the guys are dressed appropriately, if I'm being honest, Hm, well,
because black tie, the difference from black tie for guys
is like a casual suit versus a tux or a
proper black suit.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Right, Well, I think, well, I think for black tie,
I think guys can get away with wearing a black
suit with a black tie.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yes, but I think you still like if you do
black tie optional you're gonna get a lot of guys
and maybe like a more fun suit, whereas you're still
probably gonna get girls in floor length dresses.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I think they should get rid of black tie completely.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I like black tie, Yeah, I think it looks so
nice in the photos.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, I get it. I just I just feel like,
I just feel like we're beyond that as a society.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I just think you don't like black tie, you don't
like dressing.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Up, I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I actually you just want to wear what you want
to wear.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I actually don't mind wearing a tux, but I do
want to wear what I want to wear.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So my biggest advice for dress code
for a wedding is just follow what you're told. That's it. Like,
don't wear white. Don't. I don't ever want to see
white cream even like champagne gets a little risky sometimes,
butter yellows showing up as white these days and photos like,
just don't do it. There's one million other colors that
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you could wear. Why are you rolling your eyes?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Because I just I just find that so, I just
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Like your only job when you show up to a
wedding is to not wear white and to follow the
dress attire that people make it so much more complicated.
Oh but can I wear white? Gee? Can I wear what? No?
You can't. But see other colors on the table for.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
You, all right? If I have a cream colored spore
code on at a wedding, they're not going to confuse me.
For the bride, No one's gonna confuse me. It's different
for guys and and if another if a woman's there
in a cream colored dress, they're not going to confuse her.
For everyone knows who the bride.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
No, it's not about confusion. Maybe on the bachelorette it is.
I've been on a bachelotte party where one of the
girls were white and the server thought she was the bride.
But at the wedding, it's not about confusion. Everyone's gonna
know who the bride is because you obviously know these people.
And she's wearing a floor leinth gown with a veil.
It's about like respect, in my opinion, like this is
that woman's day. I have so many friends that who
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included myself honestly, that wouldn't really care if someone we're
white to their wedding. But it's not about like person
it's just about respect. Like I'm showing up to this
person's wedding. It's her moment, it's her day, she's in white.
I have the freedom to pick anything I want with
in the dress code that's not white. And if someone
can't do that to me, it's just like it's kind
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of just a sign of disrespect. It's like I don't
care enough to go pick literally any other color in
the rainbow. I'm gonna wear white, don't you.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Think I think that's I think that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I think that's violin A friend that would be like, oh,
I don't really care, and it's like I get it,
you're not gonna be offended, but it's like, to me,
that is it's disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
That's I think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Thank you. I feel strongly about it.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
What advice do both of you have to anyone out
there that's single.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
That's so hard because everyone's situation as a single person
is so different.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
How much I think that could be advice? Yeah, I
actually agree with that. I hate this fucking blanketed advice
that people just give that just should apply to everyone.
Everyone's different. So the advice I have is kind of
like figure out you and like what works for you.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, I mean, like I can obviously give advice on
like specific situations or to like my girlfriends, who I know.
I know them right, I know who they are, I
know their strengths and their weaknesses. I know they're dating history.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I could give you advice if you're single going on
to Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Don'tally we got you there, we got you there. But
like to give I think that's the biggest thing. I'm
always I love giving like dating relationship advice, But I
don't really believe in like blanketed statements for all single
people or like blanketed statements for all married or dating people,
because it's like I could say something that's gonna apply
to some people, but there's definitely people out there that
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like it's not gonna apply to or they think it's
gonna apply to them, and they shouldn't take it. Like
go ask your family member or your best friend or
your sibling or someone that like really knows you and
that you trust and respect to. Those are gonna be
the people that give you the best advice. Yeah, speak
their advice.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Find someone else, Yeah, give me this, give me the
situation and give me twenty things about yourself and then
I can maybe give you advice.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Someone's like, hey, this is my situation. I could I
could think I could give some pretty good advice, But
I just don't think there's one piece of advice for
all single people out there that is gonna be applicable.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, who is your favorite couple that came out of
Season ten of Paradise?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I mean, I the only one we've met together in
person actually is Jeremy and Bailey. I met Andrew and
Alex in person together.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I love Andrew and Alex. I think they're I think
they're like a really good fit. I thought all the
couples were really good.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I think are they all still together?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, they're all still together. I think Dale and Kat,
Andrew and Alex, and then Bailey and Jeremy. Am I
missing someone Spencer and Jess Spencer and Jessy Y?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah? Yeah I don't. I mean, if I'm gonna have
a favorite, I'm gonna just I'm gonna probably say Andrew
because he's my friend and I know him before he
went on the show, and he was at our wedding.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Soul Yeah, we'll have to go in he was at
our wedding.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay, uh, do you have any Bachelor hot takes? Probably
too many? Uh. I would say a Bachelor hot take
would be.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I don't really care that much if they stay together
after the show.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I care way more about what happens on camera during
the season, and that it's like dynamic and compelling and
emotional and uplifting and all the things I care about.
A season that like impacts me more than if they
stay together after I obviously want them to. I hope
they do. Like that's what makes it fun is when
there's these long lasting couples. But if I had to
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pick between a boring season and a long lasting couple
or an incredible season and potentially no couple at the end,
I would pick an incredible season. I can forego the relationship.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, Okay, Mine would be I think if you received
the first impressure rows, you need to get the first
date period.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah. I don't hate that either.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah. I don't know if that's a hot take, though.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I think I mean it could be enough.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Do you want to ask a question?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I could see you just like fuck you, I've asked
you the question.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well, I want to look at the questions. I like
to I have a visual learner, so like reading and looking,
it's great.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, but when we're both doing it on our both
looking at our phones doing it, it's just it's too distracting.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Okay, what is your next travel destination?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Chicago for Thanksgiving? But like, okay, so let's take out,
let's take out those things that we talk about all
the time that we always have to do, and we
go to Chicago and Toronto, we gotta go to.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
La I'm sorry what I asked, what's your next travel
de station? You said Chicago? And then you listen to
the other two places we're going, and you said, but
I'm that's I'm not going to pick a different place.
That's not the question. The question wasn't where are you
going that you want to talk about, it's where are
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you going next?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I guess I'm not an active listener either. That's a problem.
I guess that's I guess that's a problem in our relationship.
We would have to work out neither of us answer
each other's questions. Well, what I was going to say
was we have credit. We have a two thousand dollars
twenty credit to Hawaiian Airlines, So our next trip is
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going to be something we book through that.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
That's so funny because I literally was just talking about
that this morning.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, well, because I just keep having to remind myself
not to forget.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, my biggest fear with airline credits is always that
I'm going to forget that I have them, because they
don't make it easy, don't. They don't let you, like
im put it into your app or the website so
that it's like visible and it just gets deducted. You
have to call and book the flight with your number.
They definitely do it on purpose, hoping that people forget
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super friendly.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It's actually ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
It is ridiculous. It's ridiculous like they need to make.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
It's a hot take. Actually that's not a hot that's
that's a consensus among all of us.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Everyone, every person for sure agrees with this statement, except
the airlines, because why are you making it so hard
for me to redeem my airline credit that I paid for,
spent this money with you? Like I had an American
airline credit that I forgot about. I don't I think
it expired. I don't know. I actually have to call
and check. But it makes me be like Oh, I
don't even want to fly American airlines now because you know,
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I feel like they stole my money, even though it
was completely my fault.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So neither of us really answered the question.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Chicago for Thanksgiving. We're going for four days. Our plan
is to see Jo's family for Thanksgiving. We're gonna go
out with some of his friends Wednesday night, and I
think we're gonna go see Wicked two because last year
on Thanksgiving we saw Wicked one and it was so
much much fun and I'm so excited for Wicked two.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
As the most successful story ever from the Bachelor franchise.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
What what do you think that is so generous?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Well, I just made that up. Oh what do you
think it takes to make a relation work? Host show?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I feel like the number we say this a lot,
we say this to like every couple that comes on
after the show. But I think it's prioritizing your relationship,
your time together for the at least like the first
six months right after the show. I think is like
one of the most pivotal periods of time.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I agree, and I also think there is I think
people always just want to be like helpless romantics. But
I do think there's an element of luck that you
just fit together and like and like it and like
it works. Like there's a little bit of luck involved
in that that like, and I and I think, I
think like we got lucky, and like we also prioritize
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the relationship and we were also it was still like that,
it was still that like post COVID like where we
like kind of had to stay in the house, which
made which actually helped because we weren't supposed to be
out together. So like there was a lot of things
that just like kind of worked in our favor. But yeah,
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like what you said would be the advice I would give.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, And I think being as transparent and honest as
possible when you're on the show about like what your
expectations are for when the show's done, Yeah, because I
think if you don't align on those before leaving, it
can result in like a lot of immediate bumps and
you're already going to be facing so many challenges that
(27:47):
like why add that to the table. You have to
have like kind of like a plan. And frankly, like
with all of this advice, you can still fail and
it doesn't mean you did anything wrong. Sometimes it just
doesn't work out.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Are there any Bachelor Nation couples that you were surprised
are still together?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Jesus, I know, skip that question.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
That's what Yeah, what a what a question. But I'm
gonna answer it.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Oh, okay, who.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Who am I surprise are still together?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I'll tell you who I'm surprised is still single? Pilot Pete.
I feel like that guy had like three like final girls,
Like he had like three relationships right off his season.
I'm like, we got to get this guy locked down.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's kind of hard saying
that because it's kind of rude.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Well, and you could only speak to people that you
really know, so you're basically going to out someone that
you're friends with. Yeah, if you have someone in mind,
which I don't think you really do.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
No, I mean I would be surprised if Gary and
Teresa were still together, but they're not.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
If they were still together, yeah, I would definitely be
surprised about that.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
If you could choose anyone from outside of bachlination to
be the next Bachelor, who would you choose?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Oh, from outside of bachlination to be the next Bachelor,
who would you choose? Oh? Okay, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Come on, you got it?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Well what I was going too, Marciano, Marciano.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
That's not who I choose, though I know how I
would choose.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Okay, I've seen a lot of people and I don't
really know much about this person, but I've seen a
lot of people online calling for Glub from Dance with
the Stars to be the next Bachelor. And I do
think because obviously, like we watched The Bachelor, and I'm
obsessed with the real huss or yeah, secret lives and
Mormon wives and Dancing with the Stars. I'm watching all
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these things right now, right like, I'm really like immersing
into this little multiverse, and I think all these crossover
that are happening are really fun. So I wouldn't be
mad about someone from one of these other popular Hulu
shows to become the next Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Well, I mean, I know Glove. I really like Love,
and I think he would be fantastic. But I would
choose Dylanophron.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Oh, Joe, that's a great pick too, But he's in
a relationship he's with like his high school sweetheart is there.
Let's I think that would that would be a really
good pick.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Oh, I like this next question eighteen.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Okay, you want me to ask it. Yeah, if you
could design one date for the Bachelor, what would you choose?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Literally anything that they've never done? I would.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
What does that even mean?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I means I'm so sick of watching the same dates
odd or repeat, Like I just give me anything, like literally,
anything that they haven't done. I would be just thrilled
to watch have them like I don't know, like garden together,
Like I would rather watch that than see another helicopter date.
Like anything. I would probably say, like I would like
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to see.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Literally anything they've never done is crazy, but also like
now that I'm thinking about it, like they're really on
that reuse reduced recycle kick with their dates.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I would like to see them on. I would choose
like a wine and cheese date where it was like
a wine tasting date and you kind of watch both
of them like get drunk.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, but that's not very ABC family friendly.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Well, I mean I'm an executive producer, so I'm the
showrunner in.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
This scenario, Joe is the date producer, the executive producer,
the showrunner, and the handler.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Oh, this is a good question.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You didn't do you have like a date idea in mind?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
At all or no, I just said wine and cheese,
do you have one.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I want to do something where they have to like
learn like a hard new skill, like go get them
in like certified and scuba diving or something like something
that's like something that's going to bring out like tensions.
I feel like people learning to do something new that
they've never done before.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
And I'm that when they like bungee jump and do that,
I don't want.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
To see them bungee jump anymore because it's too quick, like.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Maybe maybe strenuous, like maybe learn another language together, Yeah,
like that sounds take a Spanish class if neither of
them speak Spanish.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Maybe I don't know, or like maybe this is why
we're not you know what they should do? I never
watched the show. It was like a little before by Time.
But what was the show with Paris, Hilton and.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Nicole where they were on a farm?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, where they would make them go try different jobs
in these like small towns. Is that what they would do?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I don't know. I never saw, but that's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
But that would be funny, Like every time they go
to a new city, they have to like try a
local job. Like the whole day and have to like
work that job, like something that's like not romantic at all.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah, like go work at the postal service.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, like go to live mail all day.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, this is this is why we wouldn't create a
uh no, they're like, and you're fired. Who is your
favorite bachelor villain of all time?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Hmmm? I have to think about that for a second.
I mean I'm a little biased because she's from my season,
but I think Queen Victoria is like so iconic as
a bachelor villain. And I mean maybe she's not the
most like famous bachelor villain of all time, but like
she was really doing her own thing out there, and
I love that about her.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I'm trying to think, like, who
is like a true villain.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I don't know if there's ever really a true villain.
You know. That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Now, You know who who was really shaking things up?
Was the girl that was on Clayton season clear season?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Oh oh oh my god, I can answer her so clearly.
She was a good villain.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, she was, really she was.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
She was doubling down, double down at all her interviews
after and that is way more fun for me than
seeing them go on an apology tour. Yeah, all right,
last one ready? Yeah, oh my god, this question is okay,
where do you see yourself in ten years? Laughing because
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we don't know where we're going to see yourself in
five months?
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, I don't know where we're going to be in
five months. So where do I see myself in ten years?
I mean hopefully, hopefully I'm a member at a country club.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You've been saying that. Actually, I guess, like hopefully married
still so far, so good. You know, we're four we're
four years in. I think we can make another ton.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, I mean I hope, I hope. So I wasn't
even thinking about divorce, no, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I just need to picture myself in ten years. Is
the only thing that I'm like certain we'll be, like
you'll we'll be married still, Like I don't know where
we'll be living or what we'll be doing. Yeah, hopefully
we're having so much fun and making good money and
we're healthy and we're in love.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, I agree, So sweet.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Why do you look so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Just because I have uncomfortable physically like.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
The way you're sitting Yeah, yeah, oh okay.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, we have a lot going on we've been on
this couch for a minute now.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, all right, Well this is the perfect time I
think to wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I think so too. This was a lot of fun.
Thank you for joining the podcast.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Thank you for joining the podcast.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
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you guys so much for listening to our podcast. Make
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Speaker 2 (35:53):
We'll have new and exclusive interviews for you every single week.
Thanks for listening. Fine
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Back to Half the Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and this is the week
of Thanksgiving, so we are going to do a little
special episode.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Just Serena and I answering some questions and talking for
thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You guys, ready, buckle up, everyone, It's just me and
Joe today.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
That's right. Well, we got you know, we got a
lot to talk about. We've We've done a lot over
the past couple of months. I feel like we've been
fucking traveling every goddamn minute.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah. We spent a lot of time at the airports,
and as much as I'm grateful, I am tired.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah. I don't know why I had to swear so
much there.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It was very aggressive aggressive.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I came, Jesus, Okay, so, uh do you want to
ask the first one? Or how do you want to
do this? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We got a couple fan questions here. We have a
list in front of us, so I think we'll just
fly through them and see how many we get through.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah. Ready, Yeah, I mean you didn't really answer my question.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
What was your question?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I ask how we doing this? I said, you want
to go first?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
My sister says, I need to be better at active listening.
I think I'm a pretty good active listener, but sometimes
my thoughts overpower the question, which I guess is the
definition of being a bad active listener.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Actually, yeah, you do actually have to be a better
active listener. I I've actually been noticing that too. Really, yeah,
I mean, I just, I mean, you're just totally blown
past what I asked.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You know, I know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
You know, you gotta you know, you're you're smaller, so
you see, so you're you're chattier.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh is that how it works? I'm so little, I
just can't stop talking. Please reask your question, and I
swear I'll listen this time.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Do you want to go first?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Okay, there we go.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Okay, So the first question that we have was how
was your trip to Scotland as well as our trip
to soul and Osaka and Tokyo. Let's start with Scotland.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, Scotland's great. I love Scotland. I mean Saint Andrew's.
It's like if you if you, if you love golf,
Saint Andrews is like the mecca of It's like the
capital the start of golf. It feels like so that
place was great, and I will say we were able
to spend like twenty four hours in Edinburgh, which I
(02:16):
would love to go back because I really liked that.
In Borough it was like a little it seemed to
me like a pocket of London.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I agree, Yeah, Yeah, Saint Andrews was actually Scotland in general.
I guess wasn't really somewhere that was majorly on my
bucket list, not for any specific reason. I just it
just wasn't that high up there on my desirable destinations.
But Saint Andrew's. We weren't together a ton in St
Andrew's because you were working a lot, but it was
(02:47):
so quaint, it was so beautiful, the people were so friendly,
and I did get to walk nine holes with you
on that one golf course and I was having a blast.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah. I will say though that the what is it,
hagis the side?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah I chicked. So if you don't know what fings it,
maybe you don't want to know, but we're going to
tell you. It's like stomach in testines or like stomach lining.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Isn't it something like something something along those lines.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, of like a cow. So I chickened out. I
didn't try it. But one of the guys that we
were there with who is from Scotland, was like, there's
different forms of trying hagis and the best one is
when they're like fried into little deep fried balls. What
do you try like a scramble it was in your burrito?
Was Yeah, it was just like in what kind of
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flavor was it? You know, it wasn't the texture.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It wasn't the texture. It's more it was just I
don't love lamb and it had it like it.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Had that like a gamey flavor.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
At least that's kind of what I maybe I would.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Have liked it then. And then yeah, we were only
in Edinburgh for like just under twenty four hours. We
had crazy weather in Edinburgh, Like it was windy, it
was own pouring rain. We were trying to be so
brave walking around the city and seeing it, and then
after a while we just had to call it quits
because it was it was.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Wild trying to be so brief. I will see that
we're trying.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
To be soper. Really it's okay. You know, we got
our jackets on, we got our umbrellas like it so
what like we'll get a little wet, but no we
got a lot wet.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The Shume was really good though. I love the Shome.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
The Shome is so good. I love to Shume so much.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Okay, And then like we don't have to break down
every aspect of the Agia trip, but like out of
I would say, out of Soul, Osaka, and Tokyo, what
was your favorite?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Probably Tokyo. Yeah, if I was going to go back
to one of them right now, I would choose Tokyo
just because I feel like there's so much to see. Like,
we were there for five days, but I could go
do I could go do another five days and have
a totally new experience. Osaka we were there for two
and I feel like we saw it. Not that I
wouldn't go back. I would still recommend it. And Sol
(05:01):
Sol I loved, but it was a little bit hard
with the cuisine and my net allergy and the language barrier.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I will say though, the Four Seasons in Sooul was
probably my favorite.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Hotel me too.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I loved that place.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It was incredible.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
That is the highlight of my trip, the.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Four Seasons in Seoul. Yeah, your favorite part about travel
really is staying at nice hotels.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Nice hotels. What am I gonna do.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I don't blame you, Sumi like nice hotels.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Sumi Serena. What advice do you have to anyone traveling
with dietary restrictions? I was expecting that question.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Okay, Well, as you guys know, I just mentioned I
have a severe nut allergy. My go to is to
I usually use like a translator app or CHATCHYBT works great,
and I translate like something very simple of just like
I have a severe nut allergy, please do not serve
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me nuts of any kind. And then sometimes we'll put
like nut oils, nut products, et cetera, and I'll screenshot
it and I'll make it my lock screen on my phone,
so that if there is a language barrier to where
I feel like they're not understanding me, I can just
show that. And a lot of the times that helps.
In Spain that came clutch. Italy was actually like really
(06:19):
good with dietary restriction. Yeah, Italy was incredible with dietary restrictions.
Oh my god, it was so impressed. So yeah, that's
my go to. I did printed cards for this trip
because we were going to Korea and also Japan, and
I found that was easier because the language barrier was
so strong. A lot of the time they would take
the card from me and like take it to the
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back into the kitchen and then come back out and
tell me. And it was just something where it was
like cre tate the card, you can keep it, like
throw it away whatever. I got like a hundred printed
on canva, And that's my number one thing. I guess
on top of that, Like you know, I have a
lot of anxiety and my allergy, but just doing everything
I can to be like conscientious of it, bringing my EpiPens,
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trusting the people that are telling me there's no nuts
and if I don't trust where we are, we don't
feel safe. Joe and I will leave a restaurant just
like respectfully say hey, sorry, like we're not going to
eat here, because there's really no point in taking a risk,
like it'll really ruin the whole trip and potentially our
whole lives. Yeah, well, okay, Joe, how was your experience
(07:23):
running the marathon this year? And how do you prepare?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I love marathon day and I really enjoy training.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I didn't Yes, what part of training do you like?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I just enjoy training for something. I just love that,
like schedule in runnings like therapy for me. Yeah, like
my golf lessons, and so I enjoy that aspect for sure.
And I really like the day of the marathon because
it's like, this is what you've been working for. It's exciting,
it's a great day. I didn't score as well as
I wanted to. I think I I broke down around
(08:01):
like mile eighteen and I got really like because I
wore the ankle compression sleeves and it was the first
time I wore them, and they cut off halfway through
my foot that I had just massive blisters that exploded
on the bottom of my feet.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
They were actually the biggest blisters I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It was just I was like the blood in my
socks was like I was like, oh, this is terrible.
And then like for like for like they got infected
and then I was basically like five days I could
barely walk.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah. He was on a full antibiotic and had a
prescription cream because these blisters were so out of control.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, I think I think if I run it, if
I run another marathon, I will definitely just take more
care of my feet far as far as like vasoline
before I run.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, not using new products yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I and I switched shoes a lot during during training,
and that kind of messed me up a little bit.
So it's just like, yeah, like making sure that my
shoes fit right and kind of like just like those
little things and keeping it simple, and then I think
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know. In your defense, though, I feel like you
broke down around mile eighteen because your Garmin watched die,
so you weren't able to track your pace at all.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
No I mean no, no, no, I mean not being
able to track my pace was not great.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But did you not charge your watch?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I did, but it got disconnected, so there was was
connectivity issues and that just totally fucked me up. But
that was not why it was because I just I
I need to run more twenty mile runs prior to
the marathon, ohcha, which is a lot of running, and
I just don't know if I want to do those
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miles anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, well you do the marathon again.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Do you think I always say no and then I
always do it?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So that's true.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
How did you guys spend your second anniversary?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Where were we?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I think we're at your parents' house eating chicken?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Oh yeah, we were at my parents' house. Chicken.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, because remember I gave you your gift and you
had like you were like not finished with your chicken.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Was it on our actual anniversary you gave me my gift?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah? Yeah, oh no, I was before classic move.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So our big trip that we took to Asia was
kind of like the way we chose to celebrate our anniversary.
We usually take a trip in like September October, and
that's kind of like our quote unquote anniversary celebration. The
day of for us is like not as big of
a deal, like we don't do anything crazy, but we
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were at my parents' house, so we did celebrate with
them and we just had a chill night at home.
Joe got me a beautiful necklace as a gift this
year for our anniversary, so that was really nice. And yeah,
that's kind of it. I don't even really remember the
exact day what we did, if I'm being totally honest.
We were in Toronto hanging out Roman so romantic is
(11:07):
it my trim?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Okay, sorry. Next question is would you ever do a
vow renewal? No? Probably not.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I mean, just by the way we celebrate our anniversaries,
I think I.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Like that anniversaries and like holidays and stuff aren't huge
for us. I feel like we do a good job
throughout the year of making the most of like just
not even celebrating, but like we're childless, Like we go
on trips together, we go on lots of date nights,
and do fun things together. I feel like maybe when
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you have kids, it's like more motivation to prioritize those
moments and make them special for just the two of you.
But you know, I feel like we're doing fun, special
things all year round, so.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Do I mean, yeah, we really do, yeah, which.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Is which is so wonderful. So when it comes down
to the anniversaries, is a lot of time we just
want to like be together and hang out and which
is kind of fun. But for the vow renewal, I
could see us doing like an anniversary party, like if
like a ten year anniversary party or something, just because
I loved our wedding and it made so much fun
with all of our friends, it'd be fun to like
throw a party. But I don't know, if I need
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to do a vow renewal, you wouldn't do an anniversary party.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Ten no, no, no, I don't I find that like
I don't know. I just oh, yeah, like, come celebrate us.
We've been together for ten years? Whoop the fucking do? Like? Ever?
So many people have been together for ten years? I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Okay, maybe if we make it to like fifty.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Years, I think thirty. Oh okay, I think thirty.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
My parents just celebrated thirty.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I think thirty. Yeah, I'll take this.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Oh my god, why.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Because I just know that you you are you struggle
a little bit with uh the questions.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I think I'm doing a great job. I'm reading them
off my phone. If you think I'm not capable of
reading a question.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I think you are. But I think, but I see
you already jumping ahead, caring for the question because you prepare.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well, I'm just skimming.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You'll see what's up, what's to come. But final, I'll
let you shock me if that's what you want, I do.
I could be stunned by the question. I actually haven't
read the next question. If that surprises you, okay, oh,
oh my god? You slipping my phone away.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It feels like you guys have been to so many
weddings lately. What advice do you have to anyone showing
up to a wedding where they don't know many of
the other guests, which is which hasn't really been happening
to you as much lately, but me more.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
This year, we had four weddings, and one of them
was Joe's brother's wedding, which was so much fun. It
was incredible, and we obviously knew a ton of people
because it was his whole family, his friend group, and
also I had gone on our now sister in law's
bachelortte party. We know her family, so that was great.
And then it was two of my friend's weddings, who
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I obviously know most people there, you don't. And then
we went to his manager's wedding, who I would say,
we didn't really know most people there. So I feel
like when you both, like when you're in a couple
and Joe and I both don't know a lot of
people there, it's almost easier if we.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Like without a doubt.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, well, I mean, look, the best weddings is the
ones where you know a lot of people. Yeah, But like,
for example, at his manager's wedding, it was like we're
just hanging out, the two of us and trying to
chat with people at our table and get to know
people and grab a drink, and it's way better.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I actually prefer it much more when we both don't
know anybody, opposed to one person doesn't know anyone and
the other person knows everyone, because then that's a little
But like for the most part, all the weddings we
go to, like we know someone.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I mean at your manager's wedding, I don't know if
we really knew anyone.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Well, we knew him and his wife.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well, yeah, that's why we're there because we love them.
But yeah, yeah, I feel like when you don't know
anyone there, it's usually a lower pressure wedding because you're
probably not super super involved in the lives of the
bride and groom. Otherwise you would like know their family.
If it's a childhood best friend, you're probably in the
wedding party, or if it's like a family member, you
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know you are a little it's a little bit more
of a high stakes wedding. So I think it's like
you kind of just show up. It's a party, you
have fun, and you head out, Whereas when one of
us knows someone, then it's a little bit more of
a balancing act of like, okay, I'm a bride'smaid. We
got to set you up with a plan. But then
you'll usually vibe with like one of my friend's husbands
or something. Yeah, I vibe, but I love weddings.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I'm over weddings.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
No, I love them though, and we got more to come,
so buckle.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Up, Serena. Yeah, what are your dos and don't for
wedding guests? Attire?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Oh okay, so.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
See, I knew you would like being surprise.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
So it depends on what the attire is. I guess
if it's black tie, show up in a tux and
girls you need to be in a floor length gown,
not a floor length dress like it needs to be.
I think more formal, but I'm less worried about the
girlies usually. I think black tie is usually more to
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make sure the guys are dressed appropriately, if I'm being honest, Hm, well,
because black tie, the difference from black tie for guys
is like a casual suit versus a tux or a
proper black suit.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Right, Well, I think, well, I think for black tie,
I think guys can get away with wearing a black
suit with a black tie.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yes, but I think you still like if you do
black tie optional you're gonna get a lot of guys
and maybe like a more fun suit, whereas you're still
probably gonna get girls in floor length dresses.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I think they should get rid of black tie completely.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I like black tie, Yeah, I think it looks so
nice in the photos.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, I get it. I just I just feel like,
I just feel like we're beyond that as a society.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I just think you don't like black tie, you don't
like dressing.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Up, I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I actually you just want to wear what you want
to wear.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I actually don't mind wearing a tux, but I do
want to wear what I want to wear.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So my biggest advice for dress code
for a wedding is just follow what you're told. That's it. Like,
don't wear white. Don't. I don't ever want to see
white cream even like champagne gets a little risky sometimes,
butter yellows showing up as white these days and photos like,
just don't do it. There's one million other colors that
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you could wear. Why are you rolling your eyes?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Because I just I just find that so, I just
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Like your only job when you show up to a
wedding is to not wear white and to follow the
dress attire that people make it so much more complicated.
Oh but can I wear white? Gee? Can I wear what? No?
You can't. But see other colors on the table for.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
You, all right? If I have a cream colored spore
code on at a wedding, they're not going to confuse me.
For the bride, No one's gonna confuse me. It's different
for guys and and if another if a woman's there
in a cream colored dress, they're not going to confuse her.
For everyone knows who the bride.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
No, it's not about confusion. Maybe on the bachelorette it is.
I've been on a bachelotte party where one of the
girls were white and the server thought she was the bride.
But at the wedding, it's not about confusion. Everyone's gonna
know who the bride is because you obviously know these people.
And she's wearing a floor leinth gown with a veil.
It's about like respect, in my opinion, like this is
that woman's day. I have so many friends that who
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included myself honestly, that wouldn't really care if someone we're
white to their wedding. But it's not about like person
it's just about respect. Like I'm showing up to this
person's wedding. It's her moment, it's her day, she's in white.
I have the freedom to pick anything I want with
in the dress code that's not white. And if someone
can't do that to me, it's just like it's kind
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of just a sign of disrespect. It's like I don't
care enough to go pick literally any other color in
the rainbow. I'm gonna wear white, don't you.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Think I think that's I think that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I think that's violin A friend that would be like, oh,
I don't really care, and it's like I get it,
you're not gonna be offended, but it's like, to me,
that is it's disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
That's I think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Thank you. I feel strongly about it.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
What advice do both of you have to anyone out
there that's single.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
That's so hard because everyone's situation as a single person
is so different.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
How much I think that could be advice? Yeah, I
actually agree with that. I hate this fucking blanketed advice
that people just give that just should apply to everyone.
Everyone's different. So the advice I have is kind of
like figure out you and like what works for you.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, I mean, like I can obviously give advice on
like specific situations or to like my girlfriends, who I know.
I know them right, I know who they are, I
know their strengths and their weaknesses. I know they're dating history.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I could give you advice if you're single going on
to Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Don'tally we got you there, we got you there. But
like to give I think that's the biggest thing. I'm
always I love giving like dating relationship advice, But I
don't really believe in like blanketed statements for all single
people or like blanketed statements for all married or dating people,
because it's like I could say something that's gonna apply
to some people, but there's definitely people out there that
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like it's not gonna apply to or they think it's
gonna apply to them, and they shouldn't take it. Like
go ask your family member or your best friend or
your sibling or someone that like really knows you and
that you trust and respect to. Those are gonna be
the people that give you the best advice. Yeah, speak
their advice.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Find someone else, Yeah, give me this, give me the
situation and give me twenty things about yourself and then
I can maybe give you advice.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Someone's like, hey, this is my situation. I could I
could think I could give some pretty good advice, But
I just don't think there's one piece of advice for
all single people out there that is gonna be applicable.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, who is your favorite couple that came out of
Season ten of Paradise?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I mean, I the only one we've met together in
person actually is Jeremy and Bailey. I met Andrew and
Alex in person together.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I love Andrew and Alex. I think they're I think
they're like a really good fit. I thought all the
couples were really good.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I think are they all still together?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, they're all still together. I think Dale and Kat,
Andrew and Alex, and then Bailey and Jeremy. Am I
missing someone Spencer and Jess Spencer and Jessy Y?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah? Yeah I don't. I mean, if I'm gonna have
a favorite, I'm gonna just I'm gonna probably say Andrew
because he's my friend and I know him before he
went on the show, and he was at our wedding.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Soul Yeah, we'll have to go in he was at
our wedding.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay, uh, do you have any Bachelor hot takes? Probably
too many? Uh. I would say a Bachelor hot take
would be.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I don't really care that much if they stay together
after the show.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I care way more about what happens on camera during
the season, and that it's like dynamic and compelling and
emotional and uplifting and all the things I care about.
A season that like impacts me more than if they
stay together after I obviously want them to. I hope
they do. Like that's what makes it fun is when
there's these long lasting couples. But if I had to
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pick between a boring season and a long lasting couple
or an incredible season and potentially no couple at the end,
I would pick an incredible season. I can forego the relationship.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, Okay, Mine would be I think if you received
the first impressure rows, you need to get the first
date period.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah. I don't hate that either.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah. I don't know if that's a hot take, though.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I think I mean it could be enough.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Do you want to ask a question?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I could see you just like fuck you, I've asked
you the question.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well, I want to look at the questions. I like
to I have a visual learner, so like reading and looking,
it's great.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, but when we're both doing it on our both
looking at our phones doing it, it's just it's too distracting.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Okay, what is your next travel destination?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Chicago for Thanksgiving? But like, okay, so let's take out,
let's take out those things that we talk about all
the time that we always have to do, and we
go to Chicago and Toronto, we gotta go to.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
La I'm sorry what I asked, what's your next travel
de station? You said Chicago? And then you listen to
the other two places we're going, and you said, but
I'm that's I'm not going to pick a different place.
That's not the question. The question wasn't where are you
going that you want to talk about, it's where are
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you going next?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I guess I'm not an active listener either. That's a problem.
I guess that's I guess that's a problem in our relationship.
We would have to work out neither of us answer
each other's questions. Well, what I was going to say
was we have credit. We have a two thousand dollars
twenty credit to Hawaiian Airlines, So our next trip is
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going to be something we book through that.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
That's so funny because I literally was just talking about
that this morning.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, well, because I just keep having to remind myself
not to forget.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, my biggest fear with airline credits is always that
I'm going to forget that I have them, because they
don't make it easy, don't. They don't let you, like
im put it into your app or the website so
that it's like visible and it just gets deducted. You
have to call and book the flight with your number.
They definitely do it on purpose, hoping that people forget
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super friendly.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It's actually ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
It is ridiculous. It's ridiculous like they need to make.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
It's a hot take. Actually that's not a hot that's
that's a consensus among all of us.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Everyone, every person for sure agrees with this statement, except
the airlines, because why are you making it so hard
for me to redeem my airline credit that I paid for,
spent this money with you? Like I had an American
airline credit that I forgot about. I don't I think
it expired. I don't know. I actually have to call
and check. But it makes me be like Oh, I
don't even want to fly American airlines now because you know,
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I feel like they stole my money, even though it
was completely my fault.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So neither of us really answered the question.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Chicago for Thanksgiving. We're going for four days. Our plan
is to see Jo's family for Thanksgiving. We're gonna go
out with some of his friends Wednesday night, and I
think we're gonna go see Wicked two because last year
on Thanksgiving we saw Wicked one and it was so
much much fun and I'm so excited for Wicked two.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
As the most successful story ever from the Bachelor franchise.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
What what do you think that is so generous?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Well, I just made that up. Oh what do you
think it takes to make a relation work? Host show?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I feel like the number we say this a lot,
we say this to like every couple that comes on
after the show. But I think it's prioritizing your relationship,
your time together for the at least like the first
six months right after the show. I think is like
one of the most pivotal periods of time.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I agree, and I also think there is I think
people always just want to be like helpless romantics. But
I do think there's an element of luck that you
just fit together and like and like it and like
it works. Like there's a little bit of luck involved
in that that like, and I and I think, I
think like we got lucky, and like we also prioritize
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the relationship and we were also it was still like that,
it was still that like post COVID like where we
like kind of had to stay in the house, which
made which actually helped because we weren't supposed to be
out together. So like there was a lot of things
that just like kind of worked in our favor. But yeah,
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like what you said would be the advice I would give.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, And I think being as transparent and honest as
possible when you're on the show about like what your
expectations are for when the show's done, Yeah, because I
think if you don't align on those before leaving, it
can result in like a lot of immediate bumps and
you're already going to be facing so many challenges that
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like why add that to the table. You have to
have like kind of like a plan. And frankly, like
with all of this advice, you can still fail and
it doesn't mean you did anything wrong. Sometimes it just
doesn't work out.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Are there any Bachelor Nation couples that you were surprised
are still together?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Jesus, I know, skip that question.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
That's what Yeah, what a what a question. But I'm
gonna answer it.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Oh, okay, who.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Who am I surprise are still together?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I'll tell you who I'm surprised is still single? Pilot Pete.
I feel like that guy had like three like final girls,
Like he had like three relationships right off his season.
I'm like, we got to get this guy locked down.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's kind of hard saying
that because it's kind of rude.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Well, and you could only speak to people that you
really know, so you're basically going to out someone that
you're friends with. Yeah, if you have someone in mind,
which I don't think you really do.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
No, I mean I would be surprised if Gary and
Teresa were still together, but they're not.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
If they were still together, yeah, I would definitely be
surprised about that.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
If you could choose anyone from outside of bachlination to
be the next Bachelor, who would you choose?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Oh, from outside of bachlination to be the next Bachelor,
who would you choose? Oh? Okay, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Come on, you got it?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Well what I was going too, Marciano, Marciano.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
That's not who I choose, though I know how I
would choose.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Okay, I've seen a lot of people and I don't
really know much about this person, but I've seen a
lot of people online calling for Glub from Dance with
the Stars to be the next Bachelor. And I do
think because obviously, like we watched The Bachelor, and I'm
obsessed with the real huss or yeah, secret lives and
Mormon wives and Dancing with the Stars. I'm watching all
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these things right now, right like, I'm really like immersing
into this little multiverse, and I think all these crossover
that are happening are really fun. So I wouldn't be
mad about someone from one of these other popular Hulu
shows to become the next Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Well, I mean, I know Glove. I really like Love,
and I think he would be fantastic. But I would
choose Dylanophron.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Oh, Joe, that's a great pick too, But he's in
a relationship he's with like his high school sweetheart is there.
Let's I think that would that would be a really
good pick.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Oh, I like this next question eighteen.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Okay, you want me to ask it. Yeah, if you
could design one date for the Bachelor, what would you choose?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Literally anything that they've never done? I would.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
What does that even mean?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I means I'm so sick of watching the same dates
odd or repeat, Like I just give me anything, like literally,
anything that they haven't done. I would be just thrilled
to watch have them like I don't know, like garden together,
Like I would rather watch that than see another helicopter date.
Like anything. I would probably say, like I would like
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to see.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Literally anything they've never done is crazy, but also like
now that I'm thinking about it, like they're really on
that reuse reduced recycle kick with their dates.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I would like to see them on. I would choose
like a wine and cheese date where it was like
a wine tasting date and you kind of watch both
of them like get drunk.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, but that's not very ABC family friendly.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Well, I mean I'm an executive producer, so I'm the
showrunner in.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
This scenario, Joe is the date producer, the executive producer,
the showrunner, and the handler.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Oh, this is a good question.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You didn't do you have like a date idea in mind?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
At all or no, I just said wine and cheese,
do you have one.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I want to do something where they have to like
learn like a hard new skill, like go get them
in like certified and scuba diving or something like something
that's like something that's going to bring out like tensions.
I feel like people learning to do something new that
they've never done before.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
And I'm that when they like bungee jump and do that,
I don't want.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
To see them bungee jump anymore because it's too quick, like.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Maybe maybe strenuous, like maybe learn another language together, Yeah,
like that sounds take a Spanish class if neither of
them speak Spanish.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Maybe I don't know, or like maybe this is why
we're not you know what they should do? I never
watched the show. It was like a little before by Time.
But what was the show with Paris, Hilton and.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Nicole where they were on a farm?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, where they would make them go try different jobs
in these like small towns. Is that what they would do?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I don't know. I never saw, but that's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
But that would be funny, Like every time they go
to a new city, they have to like try a
local job. Like the whole day and have to like
work that job, like something that's like not romantic at all.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah, like go work at the postal service.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, like go to live mail all day.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, this is this is why we wouldn't create a
uh no, they're like, and you're fired. Who is your
favorite bachelor villain of all time?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Hmmm? I have to think about that for a second.
I mean I'm a little biased because she's from my season,
but I think Queen Victoria is like so iconic as
a bachelor villain. And I mean maybe she's not the
most like famous bachelor villain of all time, but like
she was really doing her own thing out there, and
I love that about her.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I'm trying to think, like, who
is like a true villain.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I don't know if there's ever really a true villain.
You know. That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Now, You know who who was really shaking things up?
Was the girl that was on Clayton season clear season?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Oh oh oh my god, I can answer her so clearly.
She was a good villain.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, she was, really she was.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
She was doubling down, double down at all her interviews
after and that is way more fun for me than
seeing them go on an apology tour. Yeah, all right,
last one ready? Yeah, oh my god, this question is okay,
where do you see yourself in ten years? Laughing because
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we don't know where we're going to see yourself in
five months?
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, I don't know where we're going to be in
five months. So where do I see myself in ten years?
I mean hopefully, hopefully I'm a member at a country club.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You've been saying that. Actually, I guess, like hopefully married
still so far, so good. You know, we're four we're
four years in. I think we can make another ton.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, I mean I hope, I hope. So I wasn't
even thinking about divorce, no, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I just need to picture myself in ten years. Is
the only thing that I'm like certain we'll be, like
you'll we'll be married still, Like I don't know where
we'll be living or what we'll be doing. Yeah, hopefully
we're having so much fun and making good money and
we're healthy and we're in love.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, I agree, So sweet.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Why do you look so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Just because I have uncomfortable physically like.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
The way you're sitting Yeah, yeah, oh okay.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, we have a lot going on we've been on
this couch for a minute now.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
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think to wrap it up.
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