July 9, 2026 • 54 mins
Donisha was elated to finally meet a man who checked all her boxes. Someone she could start a family with. But just as her future starts to take shape, a knock at her front door changes everything.
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
I cannot have this. I have worked very hard to
have a life of peace and we have a child.
Now I cannot have us Marshalls knocking on my door
asking me where you are.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:46):
All right, onto the show.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Growing up, Denisha Quiller was used to chaos. She was
one of seven kids.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I have a brother, a sister, a half brother, and
then my mom adopted three of her nieces.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
They lived in a two bedroom house in Long Beach, California.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Eight people. It was very chaotic, a lot of fighting
for attention.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Denizja had a good relationship with her father, but he
was in and out of the house when she was
growing up. As the primary caregiver, her mom held everything
together with seven kids. It was an exhausting job.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
She was super mom. She was stressed out and it
wasn't easy.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
When the house got too loud, Denisha escaped into her
bedroom and watched her favorite TV shows. She practically had
the TV guide memorized.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm an eighties kid. So it was full house and
perfect strangers.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Denisia's mom ran a tight ship, especially when it came
to dating.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
My mom was antiboys, anti dating. She would tell me
constantly that you don't trust men. You don't rely on
men on Sundays. Vish's family attended church. They were Pentecostal,
and that came with its own expectations. There were so
many rules. Sex was on the top of the list.
(03:10):
If you did that, you were just done.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
For Denisha followed all of the rules very carefully. There
were certain movies she couldn't watch, certain clothes she wasn't
allowed to wear, so she had to find creative ways
to express herself.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I got extensions and they were always rainbow colored, and
that was exciting. It was pretty much the only thing
my mom would allow.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
In high school, Denisha made a plan for her future.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I thought that immediately after high school, I would go
to college, find my husband, buy a house, have a
couple kids, and then be a career woman.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
After graduating, Denisia enrolled at Biola University, an Evangelical Christian
university in southeast LA. She graduated with a degree in
communication disorder.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I was really looking forward to doing either speech therapy
or some sort of work with the deaf community.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
After college. She was eager to start her life. She
couldn't wait to get a job, get married, and start
a family.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I was like, doors are going to open right, this
is obvious.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
She started applying to jobs and speech therapy, but she
was rejected again and again. It was discouraging.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I had a chip on my shoulder because I had
a degree, and.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That wasn't the only thing that wasn't going to plan.
Denisia struggled to find a romantic partner. She put herself
out there and went on dates, but she didn't meet
anyone she genuinely connected with.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I was miserable. This was not what I signed up for.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Her childhood in the church hadn't prepared her for this disappointment.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I was doing everything right. I left God, I talked
to God, I read the Bible. I thought, why am
I not getting my husband.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
She'd always believed that there was a formula to a
fulfilling life, but now that she was an adult, she
began to see.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
The formula doesn't exist. Everybody's on their own journey.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
She had to start figuring out what she truly wanted
when she wasn't trying to follow other people's rules, So
she decided to go back to school for accounting.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I love accounting. I am very virgo, and I want
the receipts. I want to know the proof.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Denisha worked hard and excelled at school. After getting her
graduate certificate in accounting, she quickly found a job. She'd
been ambitious her whole life, but in her twenties she
found a way to channel her hard work towards schools
that genuinely excited and challenged her. She was finally living
life on her own terms. She started saving up money
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and bought her first condo.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
By her thirties, I was filling like the badass bitch
like I have doing this life stuff well.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Going back to school for accounting, she'd established a serious relationship.
She and her boyfriend had been together for years, but
as she excelled, she noticed he wasn't growing with her.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
This man was just kind of bumming. He was a
very nice man, but he was not motivated, and it
was bumming me out.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
She wanted a life partner who was as ambitious as
she was, someone who she could rely on, who she
could trust enough to build a family with.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I had enough, and I said, you have to go,
you have to go, and so he went, and I
felt like this weight off my shoulders.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
After the breakup, Denisha decided to live on her own.
She was surprised at how much. She loved her newfound independence.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I smoothly walked into having my own place, in my
own space, in peace of mind. I started working out,
I had a personal trainer. I had people over when
I wanted half people over. But I had a jet
tub in my condo. My favorite thing to do was
get a glass of wine and some snacks and go
take a nice hot bath.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
She got into her late thirties, she knew the window
to have kids was closing. She started considering the idea
of pursuing motherhood on her own.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I had the career, I had a home, so this
kid would not miss out on anything. But ideally, ideally,
I would love a great partner.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So she decided to give dating one more shot. After
her last breakup, she had a clear picture of what
she wanted in a romantic partner.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I desired somebody who really took responsibility for his family
and led his family.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Denisia made a profile on a dating app called.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Wu and an app for people who love to date
bigger people, mainly men and bigger women. I was a
thick girl and proud of it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
After a few days, she matched with a man who
stood out from the rest. His name was Lorenzo.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
His pictures were just everything. He was super sexy.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
They messaged back and forth of it. At first. It
was casual.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
We rarely talked about the times that we did, it
was a fruitful conversation. I really liked him.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Lorenzo wasn't pushy or overbearing. If anything, he was more reserved.
He had a military background.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I just remember being impressed with him and really wanting
to crack this nut, but like he would not open
up as much as I wanted him to.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Denisha was hoping that Lorenzo would ask her out. He
hadn't been forthcoming about what he wanted yet. In the meantime,
Denisha went on dates with other guys she met on WU,
but none of the men she was meeting impressed her.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
One night, I had a date with a man named Richard.
He was okay, he was not a bad guy, but
it was it's not for me. And I got home
and I was really not stealing well about that. Like
this keeps happening. I keep meeting okay man, but I'm
not meeting the man.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
She was starting to lose hope that the man of
her dreams was out there, but in that exact moment,
her phone rang.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Lorenzo called and said, I have some time off of work.
Do you want to meet? I was still in my
outfit from the date prior that evening and I absolutely
wanted to meet.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I could not wait, even though it was late at night.
They made plans to meet up for their first date.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
We found a bar called The Stash on Fourth Street
in Long Beach and they had seating outside.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
When she got there, she locked eyes with Lorenzo.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He was beautiful to look at six', four just towered over.
Me big, guy dressed to the nine smelled so.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Good they made their way to the bars out there side.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Patio he pulled my chair, out such a. Gentleman we
talked about our upbringing and our goals and our.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Careers on other, dates making conversation felt like pulling, teeth
but talking To lorenzo was.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Effortless and then we got on the conversation of do
you want? Kids he didn't have. KIDS i didn't have,
kids AND i, Said i'm willing IF i find the right.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Person lorenzo said he'd always wanted to be a. Dad
this Made denisha lean. In usually the guys she met
either already had kids or weren't interested in starting a.
Family When denisha looked at her, watch she was surprised
to see that hours had gone.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
BY i told him it was getting kind of, late
and one walked me to my, car made SURE i
was on the inside of the, sidewalk which was so.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Sweet standing on the sidewalk next To denisha's, Car lorenzo
leaned in to kiss.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Her it was the best kiss That i've ever had
in my. Life it was just.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Amazing lorenzo didn't walk away until he was Sure denisha
was safely on her way.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Home he watched AS i burged onto the main, street
made SURE i got home via. TEXT i got home
with a smile from ear to. EAR i was, cautious
but so. Excited it was a great, night the best
Date i've ever.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Had this was the kind of guy she'd been waiting.
For when she woke up the next, morning a text
From lorenzo greeted.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Her he had left me a text message and dedicated
a song to. Me it made me smile and get
butterflies in my.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Stomach their second date followed soon, after and then their.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Third we were joined at the hip since our first.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Date soon they made their relationship. Official denisha's knowledge Of
lorenzo's life grew from a few bullet points on his
dating profile to the full.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Story he grew up In Puerto rico for the first
portion of his. Life his mom was still. There he
had been in the military for most of his. Life
he had enlisted right after high. School he started in
The army and then matriculated Into, marines and then he
went all the way up the ranks to.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Colonel he Showed denisia some of his old, uniforms decked
out with military pins and. Accolades he shared stories from
his years in the. Service he Told denisia about the
time he stepped on a homemade bomb while on.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Deployment it really destroyed his body and then was put
back together In, germany had like titanium and.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Everything he'd since retired from active military, service but he
still worked for The department Of.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Defense he worked FOR.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
DCIS, dcis Or Defense Criminal Investigative, service investigates fraud and
corruption within The department Of.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Defense he had a gun on him all the, time
no matter where we, were he had a gun and his.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Badge after dating men who lacked, Direction lorenzo's passion for
his work was a breath of fresh.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
AIR i was really impressed the, military the high profile government.
Job it just was like a cherry on top of
this sexy, man like he's on the right side of,
things making sure our military is. Safe AND i felt
safe with. HIM i felt.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Protected as the time they spent together, grew so did their.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Feelings it didn't take long for us to be telling
each other we loved each.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Other Soon lorenzo moved in With. Denisia they spent countless
hours watching movies AND tv shows together and debriefing about
the characters and themes of the.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Story, afterwards we would have long conversations and would morph
into like philosophical, conversations and we would get deep into
our religious. Background and he also was deconstructing his.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Face they could talk about. Anything when conflicts did, arise
they worked through them together with patience and.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Care the disagreements we had were short and, sporadic and
it was more of a. Conversation it felt so. Adult
it felt so good to just be able to express
SOMETHING i didn't like or something that was bothering, me
and we could just talk it.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Out the only thing they couldn't really talk about Was lorenzo's.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Job it was super. SECRET i couldn't know too. Much
every once in a while he'd give me a little
bit of un inkling about a case that he was working,
on but no, names no.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Details lorenzo worked long, hours.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And he would come home at four o'clock in the,
morning or he would be gone for a.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Week lorenzo Told danisha he had to travel often for.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Work me and my girlfriend called HIM fbi because we
knew he was working for the federal government and some
high profile, thing and SO i would call HIM fbi
babe WHEN i was referring to.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Him When lorenzo was traveling for, work he always stayed
in touch over.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Text he would send me pictures of the plane he
was going. On he would send me pictures of him
in uniform going into a high profile meeting before he
had to turn his phone in at.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Work lorenzo was, fearless and With, denisia he was, caring
gentle and. Patient she felt at home by his. Side
she'd been waiting for a love like this her whole.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Life And i've heard stories before that if you, know you,
know AND i JUST i, KNEW i knew this was.
HIM i knew this was my.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Guy they had only been dating for a couple of,
months but she knew what she. Wanted denisha was in
her late, thirties and she told him her priority was
starting a.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Family, finally you, know and two grown up nerds were
both almost in our, forties never, married no, kids do this.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Together so they made the unconventional decision to prioritize starting
a family as soon as.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Possible if it, happened in my, mind it would be
just a. Blessing and then it. HAPPENED i was so
elated she was.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Pregnant it felt like. Fate but she was nervous to
Tell lorenzo now that being a dad wasn't just an
idea but a. Reality what if he changed his.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
MIND i told, him you don't have to. STAY i
could do this on my, own and he, said absolutely.
Not that was not even a question in his. Mind
we're going to do this first time. Parents let's do.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
This But dinisha had a lot of complications with her.
PREGNANCY i had everything in the.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Book Because i'm, OLDER i was already high, risk and
then twelve week mark they did the diabetes. Test had
diabetes had to go on a very strict. Diet around
thirty four thirty five, WEEKS i started getting high blood.
PRESSURES i had to test by blood pressure times a.
DAY i was going in for a non stress test
two times a. Week it was a.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Lot lorenzo was by her side through.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Everything lorenzo was my. Anchor he came to most of the,
appointments drove me. There he stayed with me the entire.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Time denisha Was lorenzo's top. Priority even when he got
home from work at four in the, morning he got
up two hours later to prepare her breakfast in.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Bed he really was focused on making me happy and
making me. Comfortable lots of, massages lots of.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Love lorenzo started putting together the, nursery hanging up shelves
and doing the physical labor so That denisha could. Rest
watching him take care of her Gave denisha confidence that
he would be a great.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Dad he was just so gentle with, me AND i
was a. MESS i was crying all the, time and
he made me feel happy and he got me in
a better mood every. TIME i knew that he was
going to be an amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Father when their daughter was, Born lorenzo was right there
by her, side.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And you got to cut her cord and he was
the first person she. Touched it was so. Amazing and
the nurses try to bring her to, me And i'm,
like please give her to her a.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Dad it was a magical. Moment looking at her daughter
In lorenzo's, Arms denisha was filled with pride for her.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
FAMILY i could not BELIEVE i had my man and my.
BABY i was just so.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Excited finally her fairy tale was coming to. Fruition whendonesia
(19:03):
became a, mom she was. Overjoyed Watching lorenzo care for
her and their daughter felt like a dream come, true
the type of love she'd always wished. For they had
a baby. Shower lorenzo's bomb and sister traveled in From
Puerto rico to be.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
THERE i got them gifts AND i thanked them for
coming to be with us and celebrate this new journey
and how amazing it is that this is their first
grandchild and, niece and they were really.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Receptive because of the nature Of lorenzo's, job he didn't
have paternity.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Leave he was only home for a. Week his job
did not want him to be off for that. Long
he demanded that week him having to go back to
work was really. HARD i really wanted him.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
There lorenzo worked a, lot but he still did everything
he could to be a great. Dad when he wasn't,
working he jumped in to Help.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Denisia it was helping me figure out lactation and. Breastfeeding
he was always washing the baby, bottles and when baby
was stressed out and wouldn't sleep and she's, screaming, screaming
he would take.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Over one day In, august when their daughter was three months,
Old denisha And lorenzo were spending time. Together suddenly he
turned to face. Her he looked, anxious out of.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Nowhere he just says that he had to tell me.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Something Then lorenzo dropped a bombshell.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And he confessed that our baby was not his first.
Baby he actually had three additional, children a twelve year,
old a ten year, old and an eight year old
with two other.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Women denisha was completely taken.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Aback to say THAT i was shocked is an. Understatement
she was numb and.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Angry she left the house to get some, space.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And then WHEN i got, BACK i just begged him
to tell me. Everything what do you mean you're not
a first time? DAD i don't, understand.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
He, Said the kids were from two different relationships he'd
had in his, twenties they didn't live in the, area
and he wasn't involved in the kids'. Lives lorenzo tried
to explain why he'd kept this From.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Denisia he said he didn't want me to. Leave he
thought that IF i knew he had other, CHILDREN i
would not be into him. Anymore and my response was
that was my, Choice so you took that choice away from.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Me he explained that he'd never been given the opportunity
to parent his older, kids so when he Met, denisha
it felt like a fresh.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
START i asked a, Lot please tell me, everything no more.
Secrets we're in this. Together anything? Else are you? Married,
like what is going? On what about these other? Women
and he assured me nothing. Else there's nothing. Else there's nothing,
else and he is, very very sorry that he did
not tell me about these other.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Children the lies, stung But lorenzo seemed genuinely. Sorry he
admitted that hiding this was a. Mistake he was apologetic
and wasn't. DEFENSIVE i really.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Wanted to let it. GO i kind of understood where
he was coming. From why he would keep that from.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Me she asked if she could meet his other. CHILDREN
i would love.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
IT i would get. Stacks we would watch, movies and
he was really, reluctant and he did not like that,
idea and then told me that the other children's mothers
would not be on, board that he rarely gets to
see them, anyways and there was a lot of animosity
between him and the other.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Mothers denisha believed. Him she was on maternity, leave busy
with their, newborn and After lorenzo came, clean he showed
his remorse with his actions doting On denisia and their.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Daughter we had a great time all through my maternity.
Leave he was really, attentive even after this ball that he.
Dropped we try to get past, it AND i thought
it was.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Doable When lorenzo had to travel for, work he found
creative ways to stay in.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Touch baby girl AND i would hang out in the living.
Room we had the nanny cam right next to THE,
tv and it was one of those nanny cams that
you can patch through and talk.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Through lorenzo would log into the nanny cam so he
could See denisia and his daughter and talk to them
while they hung.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Out at, home and it felt really. Good, actually it
was really. Sweet he was watching all the. Time you
just pop in and. WATCH i would hear his voice
and he's, Like daddy's, Girl daddy's here and talk to
baby and talk to, me and it just was lovely
to see that he was, connecting even though he had
to be.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Away By thanksgiving of that, year their daughter was six months.
Old denisia And lorenzo were in the car driving to
her family's house For thanksgiving dinner When denisia saw that
she had a miscall from an unknown.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Number there's a message from the. CALL i asked him
to play it out loud As i'm, driving and it's
this woman That i've never heard from or heard, of
and she says she's looking for her, Husband.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Lorenzo denisia nearly swerved off the.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Road my heart, drops And i'm, like what is going?
On just a couple months, ago you told me you
had three, kids and now some stranger is calling my
phone saying that she is looking for her. Husband what is?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Happening she Expected lorenzo to be panicked and, apologetic but
he was. Unfazed he had an.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Explanation he assured, me that's my Ex she's. Crazy don't believe.
Her please don't let this ruin. Everything we have something.
GOOD i love, you this is our. Family don't let
her get in your. Head but the.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Whole time she was At thanksgiving, dinner the woman's words
my Husband lorenzo echoed in her.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Mind but it was maybe girls First, thanksgiving SO i
pretend it like everything was.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Great she put on a brave face around her. Family
when they got home that, Night lorenzo tried to reassure
any that there was nothing going on with his. Ex
he showed her the text messages between them to prove
there was nothing to worry.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
ABOUT i saw the text messages and it seemed, legit
so it helped me kind of let it.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Go she was still, suspicious but she wanted to Believe.
Lorenzo they had just started a family.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
TOGETHER i was fighting for my little. FAMILY i thought
for sure this was my, time And i'm fighting tooth
and nail to keep it as much as.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Possible one, Night denisha And lorenzo were at home watching
a show, together as they often.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Did Baby girl was in bed. Already it was late at.
Night we were Watching, dexter and he pulled out a.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Ring lorenzo Asked denisha to marry. Him she said.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yes we took a little happy picture and posted it
on social, media AND i was. Engaged the next. DAY
i squealed with my, Mom i'm on the phone and
all that, Stuff but to be, honest in the back
of my, Mind i'm like something felt.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Off she had always imagined that getting engaged would be
one of the happiest moments of her, life but her
happiness was laced with.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
DOUBT i kept thinking about the other mother that called, me,
like where is she in this, story in this. ENGAGEMENT
i don't know, why BUT i could not get her
out of my.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Mind lorenzo was passionate about his role as a federal,
agent but as time went, on he wanted to start
a side.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Venture he was really into, arbitration which is like the
middleman when somebody has an argument with another.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Person lorenzo decided to open a consulting business where he
would use his negotiation and conflict management skills to help
clients navigate complex custody battles or divorce. Proceedings he Told
denisha that his specialization within the federal government allowed him
to be an. Arbitrator this wasn't her area of, expertise
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so she didn't think much of. It she offered to
use her accounting skills to help get the business set.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
UP i helped him draw out like a policy and
how to get paid and all that.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Stuff Then lorenzo started taking on.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Clients his first case was a family here in Southern.
California it was a child custody. Case the mom was
not attentive to the child and the dad really wanted,
custody but they were not seeing eye to, eye so
he was going to see both sides and file.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Paperwork one, Day denisha was hanging out with some friends
when she got a call From. Lorenzo right, away she
could tell something was off with. Him he seemed. Flustered
he told, HER i.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Have to tell you what happened. Today please don't be,
Mad AND i was, like, okay what.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Happened there had been an explosive and the child custody
case he'd been working.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
On the mom was supposed to drop the baby back
off at dad's house and never, did So lorenzo went
with dad to go and look for the. Child he.
Said they found mom and, child And lorenzo got out
to get the, child and the mom fought him and
he held her. Back authorities were called and the mom
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went to the.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Hospital when the police, came they Arrested lorenzo and his,
client the child's.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Father So lorenzo and the father went to, jail but
he had billed himself.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Out he was calling her after posting. Bail tanisha was
stunned and.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Furious this was a client of, yours your first. Case
why were you on the street looking for people and
grabbing kids out of people's, Arms, like why would you do?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
That lorenzo didn't have much to say in his own.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Defense he, SAID i just got, passionate you, know it
was a. Mess he brushed.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Off the altercation as merely a one. Off he did
have one major, worry.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Though he said he was concerned because he did not
reveal his arrest to his superior at, work and because
he works for such a high profiled government. Job that
could be a whole. Thing SO i was, like so
then tell them.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
To denisha Reporting it seemed like the obvious thing to,
do But lorenzo told her it wasn't that. EASY a
little while after, That denisha was home alone with her,
baby but she heard a commotion outside her front.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Door they are knocking at my neighbors right across from,
me really, loud aggressive, knock AND i hear whoever is
asking For.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Larry the neighbors didn't. Answer denisha heard footsteps walking, away.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And suddenly the knock is on my. DOOR i opened the.
Door these two men in street clothes are claiming to
BE Us marshals and they're looking For. LARRY i, EXPLAIN
i don't know A, larry and they, said, well he
goes By.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Lorenzo tanisha And lorenzo were making things, work raising their
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one year old daughter. Together lorenzo's work as an agent
WITH dcis meant he was often away from. Home one,
Day tanisha was at home with their baby when she
heard a knock at the. Door when she opened, it
TWO Us marshalls were standing on her front porch.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
And they're looking For larry AND i, EXPLAIN i don't Know.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Alarry this didn't make. Sense surely the agents had the
details mixed up and we're at the wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
House and they, explain, well he goes By. Lorenzo sometimes
my whole body is, HOT i feel like my stomach is.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Dropped then one of the marshals pulled out a photo
of the man they were looking for.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
And they showed me a picture and it's the first
THING i ever. Saw it's his dating profile. PICTURES i was, like,
yeah that is my. Fiance they repeat that they're from
THE Us marshals and he is. Wanted danisha's head was.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Spinning she needed more.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Information what are you talking? About what is this? About
and they, said we can't really tell you, much but
he is wanted for a weapons charge AND i, said,
well that doesn't make. Sense he's an agent with our.
Government he wears a badge and a.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Gun THE us marshals asked If lorenzo was. Home denisia
said he was, not but they told her they needed
to come in and search the house. Themselves her heart
was beating out of her.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Chest i've never been in, trouble not even a little.
BIT i mean a couple of detentions in junior, high
SO i don't know the law like. That SO i
allowed one of them to. LOOK i asked them to
be quiet because baby girl was.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Sleeping one of the marshals searched the house while the
other Asked denisia questions About. Lorenzo when they were certain
he wasn't hiding inside the, house they Gave denisia their
contact information and. Left denisha felt like the ground beneath
her was, shifting like she couldn't take a full.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Breath my mind is all over the, place totally, nervous
in a. FOG i was so scared THAT i did something.
WRONG i immediately Called, lorenzo.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
But he already.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Knew he's, like, YEAH i saw it on the nanny.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Cam he had been watching THE Us marshall search their
home through the nanny cam he set up in their living.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Room it was as if he were waiting for this to.
Happen why what do you watch at that very? Moment
why now he knew he knew.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Something as, Always lorenzo was calm and had an, explanation.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Don't, worry, babe it's just a. Misunderstanding it's BECAUSE i
didn't tell my boss about the.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Arrest To, denisha that explanation didn't seem to add. Up
THE Us marshall said he was wanted for a weapons.
Charge lorenzo's arrest had been months, ago and he never
made any mention of a. Weapon, plus as part of his,
job he was required to Carry none of this made.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
SENSE i don't know why the government would be this
mad about a stupid. Arrest you got in a, fight
like that's not a big.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Deal lorenzo assured her that he had everything under.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Control this is nothing and he will fix. It don't.
Worry i'm going to clean it.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Up first there was a lieing about his, kids the
secrecy around his. Job then there was his, arrest and
now he was wanted BY Us.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
MARSHALS i cannot have. THIS i have worked very hard
to have a life of peace and we have a.
Child NOW i cannot HAVE us marshals knocking on my
door asking me where you, Are, like this is. Ridiculous
what is?
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Happening even Though lorenzo seemed calm on the, phone it
became clear To denisia that he was hiding something because
that day she waited for him to come, home but
he never, did not that day or the next, day
and he wasn't answering her. Calls that's when she realized.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
He was essentially on the, run trying to avoid THE Us,
marshals trying to avoid. ARREST i had no. INFORMATION i
didn't know where he. WAS i didn't know what was.
Happening nothing felt.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Normal lorenzo called her a few. Times he Telled denisha
he was. Safe he was still sorting it all. Out
she kept urging him to just be honest and turn himself.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
IN i don't understand why people are looking for you
and why it would be so hard for you to
just go ahead and tell your, boss get your, punishment
and get it over.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
With as the days turned into, weeks she clung onto
the idea that he could fix it and come home
to their, Daughter but his absence Meant denisha was suddenly
responsible for running the.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
HOUSEHOLD i hadn't seen. Him he is not helping me
take care of the. Baby he is not financially there.
Either i'm doing this all by.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Myself the Longer lorenzo was on the, run the More
denisha questioned the stories he'd been telling.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Her it was a balance of really, scared, angry and
missing him all at the same. TIME i was so
anxious and my neck. HURT i was so.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Tense lorenzo had been gone for nearly a. Month denisha
was in.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
DENIAL i have a baby with, him AND i love
him so. MUCH i didn't need. PERFECTION i just wanted
my family. Together even if it's, peace it's, peace AND
i could pretend like nothing else is.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Wrong when she didn't hear from, him she started checking,
online googling his name to see if there was any.
News that's how she saw the.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Picture they actually posted On. Twitter it's just so weird to,
me BUT i see my big strong man with. Handcuffs
lorenzo had been. Arrested they found, him THE Us marshalls found.
HIM i don't know where they found. HIM i always
try to look at the. Background it looks like a,
house maybe a parking. Garage but, yeah they got.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Him But denisia still didn't know what Exactly lorenzo had.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Done all of those arrests are public, records SO i
was able to look everything. Up and his charges were child,
endangerment false, imprisonment, conspiracy, violence impersonating a peace. Officer all
of them are, horrible but the one that really stood
out to me was impersonating a peace.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Officer peace officer is a blanket to describe law enforcement
officers and includes the, police, sheriffs and special. Agents seeing
that charge was the first Time tunisia Realized lorenzo wasn't
who he said he.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Was he was not an agent with the. Government all
of that's made. Up and because he's not an agent
with the. Government he's in, big big trouble because he's.
Pretending that made more sense to me than just the stupid.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Fight there were no further details in the arrest. Record
what did they mean by child endangerment and false? Imprisonment
in the, moment all she knew for sure was that
he'd been lying to, her and seeing his, charges she
knew that his lies were serious.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Criminal, EMOTIONALLY i was a. MESS i was embarrassed and.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Shocked she struggled to accept that this was really. Happening
worst of all was accepting that the future they'd been
planning together was.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Gone and this is after like these fantasy conversations THAT
i would have with him getting married and buying a
house and like really living our lives out as a power,
Couple all that went out the.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Window she was left to raise their daughter on her
own While lorenzo sat in.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Jail i'm still going through with those partum and Then
i'm working full, time trying to keep up with the
bills and life and. Cleaning it's all on. Me it's
all on. Me so because he's in, Prison i'm only
able to talk to him when he calls.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Me the first time they talked on the, Phone lorenzo
didn't have any. Answers he's stuck by his story that
he was a federal agent and his arrest was all
a big.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Misunderstanding his perspective of the story of how he got
arrested in the first place does not add. Up so
what is happening is? ALL i kept, thinking, like what is?
Happening AM i ignoring?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Something then one Day denisha got a phone call while
she was at. Work she recognized the CALLER id it
Was lorenzo's, ex the woman who'd called On.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
THANKSGIVING i, answer and she comes in. Hot she comes,
in like who is this and she sounds like she's ready.
FIGHT i, Say I'm lorenzo's. Fiance she, Said I'm lorenzo's.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Fiance but the truth Was denisha needed her. Help maybe
this woman had the answers she.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Didn't she asked, her can you tell me what's going?
On tell me your. Perspective she tells me he was never.
Working every time he was not at my, house he
was at her. House that he is sleeping around AND
i need to get. Tested it's really.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Serious it turned out they weren't the only two Women
lorenzo had been in multiple relationships at the same, time
and he made all of the women he was with
believe they were the only. One but that wasn't even
the worst of. It the woman on the phone said
That lorenzo had gotten another woman pregnant around this same
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time That DENISIA i had been pregnant with their. Daughter
and this other woman apparently lived In denisia's, neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
And she said she lived just next door and has
a baby around the same age as my.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Baby and this was on top of the three secret
children he had before he Met. Denisia she recognized the
pain in this woman's, voice and she believed Her lorenzo
had deceived them. Both later that same, Day lorenzo Called
denisia from. Present she answered on the first, ring AND.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I let them have it for the first time since
all of this has been going. On you're. TRASH i
don't trust anything you're. Saying i'm going to get full.
CUSTODY i don't want to ever see you. Again we're
not getting over. This we're. Done AND i don't say
things UNLESS i meet them AND i meant. Them she
hung up the. PHONE i was sad That i'm losing
WHAT i really, Wanted but Also i'm in a space
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WHERE i cannot continue to pretend everything's. Okay this is not,
okay it's not.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Normal the man she loved felt more like a.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Phantom now what CAN i say is even? Real did
he love? Me why? Me why did you choose?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Me denisha kept in touch With lorenzo's. Mom one, day
when they were out to, lunch his mom said something
that exposed yet another.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
LIE i asked his mom How Puerto rico, was and
she says that she's never been. There not only were
they not, there but he was not born In Puerto,
rico so that was a. Lie he was born In
la he was Named.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Larry Before lorenzo's, arrest she'd seen a copy of his
birth certificate.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Which showed me that he was born In Puerto rico
and his name Was. LORENZO i saw the birth. Certificate
it Said Puerto.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Rico but that document must have been.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Forged so who doctored this? Document that's so weird and
WHY i lie about?
Speaker 1 (42:00):
That hearing this reveal Threw denisha. Off she was too
flustered to ask his mom any follow up questions in the,
moment but later when she was, alone she realized she
needed more. Answers she didn't even know Who lorenzo, was
and she wanted to find.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Out NOW i Know larry is officially who he is
and born In LA i was able to get deeper
and look for more.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Receipts she scoured The internet for everything she could find
About lorenzo Aka. Larry her search for the truth took.
Years we want to walk you Through lorenzo's criminal, past
combining What denisha and our team has found. Out his
given name at birth Was Larry Cornell Diamond. Junior in,
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total he had six arrests and. Convictions we're going to
detail a few of. Them it all started in two
thousand In Los. Angeles larry was twenty two at the.
Time he and his Friend Robert hun showed up on
announced at a woman's. Apartment they knocked on her door
and told her that they WERE fbi. Agents they said
that they needed to search her. Home they were armed
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and she let them. In but they WEREN'T fbi. Agents
they were bounty. Hunters The Los Angeles times reported on the.
Crime here's part of that reporting read by a voice
Actor huon.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
And diamond proclaimed to be affiliated with a non existent
branch of THE. Fbi heon And diamond created a fake
search warrant and claimed they WERE fbi agents when they
made their way through a woman's sam pager apartment searching
for stolen. Computers both men were wearing holstered semi automatic
guns and silver badges that they claimed WERE fbi.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Badges that was the start of a, pattern an almost
pathological scheme of impersonating authority LIKE, FBI cia or police
as means of. Extortion after he was, Released larry went
right back to. It in two thousand and, three he
walked into a hardware store where he intended to carry
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out his next. Crime The District attorney's office In Central
california released a statement explaining what happened that. Day we've
had a voice actor read part of.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
It diamond went to the hardware company dressed like a
law enforcement. Officer he was wearing all, black displaying a,
badge and claimed that he was AN fbi agent with
The American. Consulate he then threatened to arrest the owner
unless the owner paid ten thousand dollars directly To.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Diamond for that, offense he served a four year prison.
Sentence this was so much. Darker Than denisia. Imagined lorenzo
wasn't just lying about his. Identity he was threatening and
exploiting innocent. People he would show up armed and in,
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disguise then demand money or. Valuables he abused authority he
didn't even, have and he did that over and over
again for his entire adult. Life lorenzo wasn't just unfaithful or.
Delusional he was. Dangerous In september of twenty, sixteen he
legally changed his name To Lorenzo Sanchez. Diamond the very next,
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week he was arrested, again this time for possession of a.
Firearm denisha poured over all of these.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Documents i'm reading the whole, thing and they catch him
at The denny's in his military gear with guns in his,
trunk and he gets.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Arrested none of his arrests or prison sentences deterred. Him
each time he was, released he picked up where he
left off and continued his impersonation Con even After denisia
ended things With lorenzo and he was imprisoned for the
sixth time in twenty twenty, three he would insist that
he was always a federal. Agent at least that's what
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he Told denisha but he asked her not to come
to his sentencing. Hearing there he pled guilty to all
the counts he was. Facing he was sentenced to another
eighteen months in. Prison denisia thought that would be the
end of the, story but While lorenzo was behind, bars
she got a strange.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
EMAIL i got a mysterious email From Bubba. Walker never
heard of this. Person they introduced themselves as A cia
agent and then there was A mp three voicemail in.
It it was a computerized female.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Voice the sender claimed to be an employee at THE,
cia Singing lorenzo's praises for his invaluable efforts in the
global war on. Terrorism they Said lorenzo was a good
man with more intelligence than.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Most the recording just was Like Lorenzo sanchez is a
great person and he is a great stand up, citizen
and THAT i should trust. It and also said not
to tell anybody about this message and to destroy the.
Message AFTER i got, IT i told. Everybody my sister was, like,
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WELL i can say a lot of bad things about This.
Vamba people go through the ends of the earth to
fake A cia call to get you to believe his,
Bullshit like this is so, stupid it was.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Laughable she no longer believed Anything lorenzo. Said after nine
months behind, Bars lorenzo was released on good. Behavior even
though things were over between, them she Let lorenzo FaceTime
their daughter. Occasionally on one of those, Calls lorenzo said
he had some grave.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
News that's when he revealed he had. CANCER i thought
it was another, tactic another, lie maybe to get my
walls down, again to see if he can get back
into my good. Graces so she told, him you're not
invited in my home or my heart. Anymore if you're,
SICK i help you steel better.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Soon but the next time they had a video, call
deniseh notice that the room he was calling from was.
Different he was in the hospital and he Looked. Gaune
he'd lied about so, much but this time he was
telling the.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Truth he has stage four colon. Cancer he's very.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Sick lorenzo's health only declined from. There he went into.
Hospice denisha decided to visit him and say.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Goodbye he looks really. Frail you could push him over
with just the.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Breath seeing him at the end of his life brought up,
overwhelming conflicting.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Emotions before all the things that went. Wrong he showed
me love like no one else had showed me before.
THIS i felt, RESPECTED i felt loved and desired having
him destroy my, life and now he was. Dying she
walked over to his.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
BEDSIDE i was so.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Sad it was so sad to. SEE i never wished
this for. ANYONE i held his hand and told HIM
i forgave, him and THAT i got, this AND i
will take care of our, daughter and you can let.
Go she left his.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Room within forty eight, Hours lorenzo passed. Away denisia reached
out to us a few months. Later she's still processing the.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Loss it's unending, grief grieving the life THAT i THOUGHT i,
had the, husband the, baby the, house all of those.
THINGS i had it for so, little such a little.
Time i'm grieving that all the. Time i'm grieving the
single motherhood of it, all AND i a grieve for my.
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Baby that grief is muddied by. Confusion it's really hard
to determine who this person.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Was lorenzo's obituary describes him as a, doctor, author, poet
and rapper who loved macaroni and cheese and Watching. Jeopardy
His LinkedIn profile describes him as a legal expert and
human rights. Consultant lorenzo tried on so many, disguises so
many prestigious, careers, doctor, lawyer federal. Agent denisia knows now
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he wasn't any of those. Things she's left wondering if
anything he ever told her was.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
REAL i still am not one hundred percent sure what
the truth.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Is denisha has had to make peace with the confusion
and Grief lorenzo left. Behind she hasn't been in contact
with the other Women lorenzo deceived for her reaching out
with reopen. Wounds she is trying to.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Heal my focus is on my baby and doing my job.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Well she has built an impressive.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Career i'm making six figures at a nonprofit as the accounting.
Manager i'm so proud of me to be in this.
ROLE i worked hard to. Get here's a.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Safe and loving home where her daughter gets to express herself.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Authentically baby girl is. Thriving she loves, school and it's
already time to enroll her in regular elementary. School and that's,
emotional and she loves, dancing loves.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Ballet these, Days denisius us her own. Strength.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Clearly i'm resilient BECAUSE i struggle with depression, anxiety but
this did not strike. ME i am still Going i'm
still standing, strong And i'm going to be.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Fine we end every weekly episode with the same, question
why do you want to share your?
Speaker 2 (51:39):
STORY i cycle through grief on a daily. BASIS i
feel very lonely having experienced this and not having a
lot of people that understand Where i'm, at that wore
these same shoes and had the same. Thoughts SO i
really wanted to find my, people tell other people they're not,
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alone and to just know that somebody knows What i'm going.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
Through on the next episode Of Betrayal, Weekly.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
You've got to arrest him BECAUSE i don't know where
this is going to. End he's a, liar he's a,
manipulator and he's AN, abusa AND i don't think he'll
stop unless he's made to.
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Speaker 1 (01:50):
Growing up, Denisha Quiller was used to chaos. She was
one of seven kids.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I have a brother, a sister, a half brother, and
then my mom adopted three of her nieces.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
They lived in a two bedroom house in Long Beach, California.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Eight people. It was very chaotic, a lot of fighting
for attention.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Denizja had a good relationship with her father, but he
was in and out of the house when she was
growing up. As the primary caregiver, her mom held everything
together with seven kids. It was an exhausting job.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
She was super mom. She was stressed out and it
wasn't easy.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
When the house got too loud, Denisha escaped into her
bedroom and watched her favorite TV shows. She practically had
the TV guide memorized.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm an eighties kid. So it was full house and
perfect strangers.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Denisia's mom ran a tight ship, especially when it came
to dating.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
My mom was antiboys, anti dating. She would tell me
constantly that you don't trust men. You don't rely on
men on Sundays. Vish's family attended church. They were Pentecostal,
and that came with its own expectations. There were so
many rules. Sex was on the top of the list.
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If you did that, you were just done.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
For Denisha followed all of the rules very carefully. There
were certain movies she couldn't watch, certain clothes she wasn't
allowed to wear, so she had to find creative ways
to express herself.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I got extensions and they were always rainbow colored, and
that was exciting. It was pretty much the only thing
my mom would allow.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
In high school, Denisha made a plan for her future.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I thought that immediately after high school, I would go
to college, find my husband, buy a house, have a
couple kids, and then be a career woman.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
After graduating, Denisia enrolled at Biola University, an Evangelical Christian
university in southeast LA. She graduated with a degree in
communication disorder.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I was really looking forward to doing either speech therapy
or some sort of work with the deaf community.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
After college. She was eager to start her life. She
couldn't wait to get a job, get married, and start
a family.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I was like, doors are going to open right, this
is obvious.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
She started applying to jobs and speech therapy, but she
was rejected again and again. It was discouraging.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I had a chip on my shoulder because I had
a degree, and.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That wasn't the only thing that wasn't going to plan.
Denisia struggled to find a romantic partner. She put herself
out there and went on dates, but she didn't meet
anyone she genuinely connected with.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I was miserable. This was not what I signed up for.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Her childhood in the church hadn't prepared her for this disappointment.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I was doing everything right. I left God, I talked
to God, I read the Bible. I thought, why am
I not getting my husband.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
She'd always believed that there was a formula to a
fulfilling life, but now that she was an adult, she
began to see.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
The formula doesn't exist. Everybody's on their own journey.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
She had to start figuring out what she truly wanted
when she wasn't trying to follow other people's rules, So
she decided to go back to school for accounting.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I love accounting. I am very virgo, and I want
the receipts. I want to know the proof.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Denisha worked hard and excelled at school. After getting her
graduate certificate in accounting, she quickly found a job. She'd
been ambitious her whole life, but in her twenties she
found a way to channel her hard work towards schools
that genuinely excited and challenged her. She was finally living
life on her own terms. She started saving up money
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and bought her first condo.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
By her thirties, I was filling like the badass bitch
like I have doing this life stuff well.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Going back to school for accounting, she'd established a serious relationship.
She and her boyfriend had been together for years, but
as she excelled, she noticed he wasn't growing with her.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
This man was just kind of bumming. He was a
very nice man, but he was not motivated, and it
was bumming me out.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
She wanted a life partner who was as ambitious as
she was, someone who she could rely on, who she
could trust enough to build a family with.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I had enough, and I said, you have to go,
you have to go, and so he went, and I
felt like this weight off my shoulders.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
After the breakup, Denisha decided to live on her own.
She was surprised at how much. She loved her newfound independence.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I smoothly walked into having my own place, in my
own space, in peace of mind. I started working out,
I had a personal trainer. I had people over when
I wanted half people over. But I had a jet
tub in my condo. My favorite thing to do was
get a glass of wine and some snacks and go
take a nice hot bath.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
She got into her late thirties, she knew the window
to have kids was closing. She started considering the idea
of pursuing motherhood on her own.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I had the career, I had a home, so this
kid would not miss out on anything. But ideally, ideally,
I would love a great partner.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So she decided to give dating one more shot. After
her last breakup, she had a clear picture of what
she wanted in a romantic partner.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I desired somebody who really took responsibility for his family
and led his family.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Denisia made a profile on a dating app called.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Wu and an app for people who love to date
bigger people, mainly men and bigger women. I was a
thick girl and proud of it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
After a few days, she matched with a man who
stood out from the rest. His name was Lorenzo.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
His pictures were just everything. He was super sexy.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
They messaged back and forth of it. At first. It
was casual.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
We rarely talked about the times that we did, it
was a fruitful conversation. I really liked him.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Lorenzo wasn't pushy or overbearing. If anything, he was more reserved.
He had a military background.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I just remember being impressed with him and really wanting
to crack this nut, but like he would not open
up as much as I wanted him to.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Denisha was hoping that Lorenzo would ask her out. He
hadn't been forthcoming about what he wanted yet. In the meantime,
Denisha went on dates with other guys she met on WU,
but none of the men she was meeting impressed her.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
One night, I had a date with a man named Richard.
He was okay, he was not a bad guy, but
it was it's not for me. And I got home
and I was really not stealing well about that. Like
this keeps happening. I keep meeting okay man, but I'm
not meeting the man.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
She was starting to lose hope that the man of
her dreams was out there, but in that exact moment,
her phone rang.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Lorenzo called and said, I have some time off of work.
Do you want to meet? I was still in my
outfit from the date prior that evening and I absolutely
wanted to meet.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I could not wait, even though it was late at night.
They made plans to meet up for their first date.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
We found a bar called The Stash on Fourth Street
in Long Beach and they had seating outside.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
When she got there, she locked eyes with Lorenzo.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He was beautiful to look at six', four just towered over.
Me big, guy dressed to the nine smelled so.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Good they made their way to the bars out there side.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Patio he pulled my chair, out such a. Gentleman we
talked about our upbringing and our goals and our.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Careers on other, dates making conversation felt like pulling, teeth
but talking To lorenzo was.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Effortless and then we got on the conversation of do
you want? Kids he didn't have. KIDS i didn't have,
kids AND i, Said i'm willing IF i find the right.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Person lorenzo said he'd always wanted to be a. Dad
this Made denisha lean. In usually the guys she met
either already had kids or weren't interested in starting a.
Family When denisha looked at her, watch she was surprised
to see that hours had gone.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
BY i told him it was getting kind of, late
and one walked me to my, car made SURE i
was on the inside of the, sidewalk which was so.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Sweet standing on the sidewalk next To denisha's, Car lorenzo
leaned in to kiss.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Her it was the best kiss That i've ever had
in my. Life it was just.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Amazing lorenzo didn't walk away until he was Sure denisha
was safely on her way.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Home he watched AS i burged onto the main, street
made SURE i got home via. TEXT i got home
with a smile from ear to. EAR i was, cautious
but so. Excited it was a great, night the best
Date i've ever.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Had this was the kind of guy she'd been waiting.
For when she woke up the next, morning a text
From lorenzo greeted.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Her he had left me a text message and dedicated
a song to. Me it made me smile and get
butterflies in my.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Stomach their second date followed soon, after and then their.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Third we were joined at the hip since our first.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Date soon they made their relationship. Official denisha's knowledge Of
lorenzo's life grew from a few bullet points on his
dating profile to the full.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Story he grew up In Puerto rico for the first
portion of his. Life his mom was still. There he
had been in the military for most of his. Life
he had enlisted right after high. School he started in
The army and then matriculated Into, marines and then he
went all the way up the ranks to.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Colonel he Showed denisia some of his old, uniforms decked
out with military pins and. Accolades he shared stories from
his years in the. Service he Told denisia about the
time he stepped on a homemade bomb while on.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Deployment it really destroyed his body and then was put
back together In, germany had like titanium and.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Everything he'd since retired from active military, service but he
still worked for The department Of.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Defense he worked FOR.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
DCIS, dcis Or Defense Criminal Investigative, service investigates fraud and
corruption within The department Of.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Defense he had a gun on him all the, time
no matter where we, were he had a gun and his.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Badge after dating men who lacked, Direction lorenzo's passion for
his work was a breath of fresh.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
AIR i was really impressed the, military the high profile government.
Job it just was like a cherry on top of
this sexy, man like he's on the right side of,
things making sure our military is. Safe AND i felt
safe with. HIM i felt.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Protected as the time they spent together, grew so did their.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Feelings it didn't take long for us to be telling
each other we loved each.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Other Soon lorenzo moved in With. Denisia they spent countless
hours watching movies AND tv shows together and debriefing about
the characters and themes of the.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Story, afterwards we would have long conversations and would morph
into like philosophical, conversations and we would get deep into
our religious. Background and he also was deconstructing his.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Face they could talk about. Anything when conflicts did, arise
they worked through them together with patience and.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Care the disagreements we had were short and, sporadic and
it was more of a. Conversation it felt so. Adult
it felt so good to just be able to express
SOMETHING i didn't like or something that was bothering, me
and we could just talk it.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Out the only thing they couldn't really talk about Was lorenzo's.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Job it was super. SECRET i couldn't know too. Much
every once in a while he'd give me a little
bit of un inkling about a case that he was working,
on but no, names no.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Details lorenzo worked long, hours.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And he would come home at four o'clock in the,
morning or he would be gone for a.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Week lorenzo Told danisha he had to travel often for.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Work me and my girlfriend called HIM fbi because we
knew he was working for the federal government and some
high profile, thing and SO i would call HIM fbi
babe WHEN i was referring to.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Him When lorenzo was traveling for, work he always stayed
in touch over.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Text he would send me pictures of the plane he
was going. On he would send me pictures of him
in uniform going into a high profile meeting before he
had to turn his phone in at.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Work lorenzo was, fearless and With, denisia he was, caring
gentle and. Patient she felt at home by his. Side
she'd been waiting for a love like this her whole.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Life And i've heard stories before that if you, know you,
know AND i JUST i, KNEW i knew this was.
HIM i knew this was my.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Guy they had only been dating for a couple of,
months but she knew what she. Wanted denisha was in
her late, thirties and she told him her priority was
starting a.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Family, finally you, know and two grown up nerds were
both almost in our, forties never, married no, kids do this.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Together so they made the unconventional decision to prioritize starting
a family as soon as.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Possible if it, happened in my, mind it would be
just a. Blessing and then it. HAPPENED i was so
elated she was.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Pregnant it felt like. Fate but she was nervous to
Tell lorenzo now that being a dad wasn't just an
idea but a. Reality what if he changed his.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
MIND i told, him you don't have to. STAY i
could do this on my, own and he, said absolutely.
Not that was not even a question in his. Mind
we're going to do this first time. Parents let's do.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
This But dinisha had a lot of complications with her.
PREGNANCY i had everything in the.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Book Because i'm, OLDER i was already high, risk and
then twelve week mark they did the diabetes. Test had
diabetes had to go on a very strict. Diet around
thirty four thirty five, WEEKS i started getting high blood.
PRESSURES i had to test by blood pressure times a.
DAY i was going in for a non stress test
two times a. Week it was a.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Lot lorenzo was by her side through.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Everything lorenzo was my. Anchor he came to most of the,
appointments drove me. There he stayed with me the entire.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Time denisha Was lorenzo's top. Priority even when he got
home from work at four in the, morning he got
up two hours later to prepare her breakfast in.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Bed he really was focused on making me happy and
making me. Comfortable lots of, massages lots of.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Love lorenzo started putting together the, nursery hanging up shelves
and doing the physical labor so That denisha could. Rest
watching him take care of her Gave denisha confidence that
he would be a great.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Dad he was just so gentle with, me AND i
was a. MESS i was crying all the, time and
he made me feel happy and he got me in
a better mood every. TIME i knew that he was
going to be an amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Father when their daughter was, Born lorenzo was right there
by her, side.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And you got to cut her cord and he was
the first person she. Touched it was so. Amazing and
the nurses try to bring her to, me And i'm,
like please give her to her a.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Dad it was a magical. Moment looking at her daughter
In lorenzo's, Arms denisha was filled with pride for her.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
FAMILY i could not BELIEVE i had my man and my.
BABY i was just so.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Excited finally her fairy tale was coming to. Fruition whendonesia
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became a, mom she was. Overjoyed Watching lorenzo care for
her and their daughter felt like a dream come, true
the type of love she'd always wished. For they had
a baby. Shower lorenzo's bomb and sister traveled in From
Puerto rico to be.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
THERE i got them gifts AND i thanked them for
coming to be with us and celebrate this new journey
and how amazing it is that this is their first
grandchild and, niece and they were really.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Receptive because of the nature Of lorenzo's, job he didn't
have paternity.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Leave he was only home for a. Week his job
did not want him to be off for that. Long
he demanded that week him having to go back to
work was really. HARD i really wanted him.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
There lorenzo worked a, lot but he still did everything
he could to be a great. Dad when he wasn't,
working he jumped in to Help.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Denisia it was helping me figure out lactation and. Breastfeeding
he was always washing the baby, bottles and when baby
was stressed out and wouldn't sleep and she's, screaming, screaming
he would take.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Over one day In, august when their daughter was three months,
Old denisha And lorenzo were spending time. Together suddenly he
turned to face. Her he looked, anxious out of.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Nowhere he just says that he had to tell me.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Something Then lorenzo dropped a bombshell.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And he confessed that our baby was not his first.
Baby he actually had three additional, children a twelve year,
old a ten year, old and an eight year old
with two other.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Women denisha was completely taken.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Aback to say THAT i was shocked is an. Understatement
she was numb and.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Angry she left the house to get some, space.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And then WHEN i got, BACK i just begged him
to tell me. Everything what do you mean you're not
a first time? DAD i don't, understand.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
He, Said the kids were from two different relationships he'd
had in his, twenties they didn't live in the, area
and he wasn't involved in the kids'. Lives lorenzo tried
to explain why he'd kept this From.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Denisia he said he didn't want me to. Leave he
thought that IF i knew he had other, CHILDREN i
would not be into him. Anymore and my response was
that was my, Choice so you took that choice away from.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Me he explained that he'd never been given the opportunity
to parent his older, kids so when he Met, denisha
it felt like a fresh.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
START i asked a, Lot please tell me, everything no more.
Secrets we're in this. Together anything? Else are you? Married,
like what is going? On what about these other? Women
and he assured me nothing. Else there's nothing. Else there's nothing,
else and he is, very very sorry that he did
not tell me about these other.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Children the lies, stung But lorenzo seemed genuinely. Sorry he
admitted that hiding this was a. Mistake he was apologetic
and wasn't. DEFENSIVE i really.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Wanted to let it. GO i kind of understood where
he was coming. From why he would keep that from.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Me she asked if she could meet his other. CHILDREN
i would love.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
IT i would get. Stacks we would watch, movies and
he was really, reluctant and he did not like that,
idea and then told me that the other children's mothers
would not be on, board that he rarely gets to
see them, anyways and there was a lot of animosity
between him and the other.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Mothers denisha believed. Him she was on maternity, leave busy
with their, newborn and After lorenzo came, clean he showed
his remorse with his actions doting On denisia and their.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Daughter we had a great time all through my maternity.
Leave he was really, attentive even after this ball that he.
Dropped we try to get past, it AND i thought
it was.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Doable When lorenzo had to travel for, work he found
creative ways to stay in.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Touch baby girl AND i would hang out in the living.
Room we had the nanny cam right next to THE,
tv and it was one of those nanny cams that
you can patch through and talk.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Through lorenzo would log into the nanny cam so he
could See denisia and his daughter and talk to them
while they hung.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Out at, home and it felt really. Good, actually it
was really. Sweet he was watching all the. Time you
just pop in and. WATCH i would hear his voice
and he's, Like daddy's, Girl daddy's here and talk to
baby and talk to, me and it just was lovely
to see that he was, connecting even though he had
to be.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Away By thanksgiving of that, year their daughter was six months.
Old denisia And lorenzo were in the car driving to
her family's house For thanksgiving dinner When denisia saw that
she had a miscall from an unknown.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Number there's a message from the. CALL i asked him
to play it out loud As i'm, driving and it's
this woman That i've never heard from or heard, of
and she says she's looking for her, Husband.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Lorenzo denisia nearly swerved off the.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Road my heart, drops And i'm, like what is going?
On just a couple months, ago you told me you
had three, kids and now some stranger is calling my
phone saying that she is looking for her. Husband what is?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Happening she Expected lorenzo to be panicked and, apologetic but
he was. Unfazed he had an.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Explanation he assured, me that's my Ex she's. Crazy don't believe.
Her please don't let this ruin. Everything we have something.
GOOD i love, you this is our. Family don't let
her get in your. Head but the.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Whole time she was At thanksgiving, dinner the woman's words
my Husband lorenzo echoed in her.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Mind but it was maybe girls First, thanksgiving SO i
pretend it like everything was.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Great she put on a brave face around her. Family
when they got home that, Night lorenzo tried to reassure
any that there was nothing going on with his. Ex
he showed her the text messages between them to prove
there was nothing to worry.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
ABOUT i saw the text messages and it seemed, legit
so it helped me kind of let it.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Go she was still, suspicious but she wanted to Believe.
Lorenzo they had just started a family.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
TOGETHER i was fighting for my little. FAMILY i thought
for sure this was my, time And i'm fighting tooth
and nail to keep it as much as.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Possible one, Night denisha And lorenzo were at home watching
a show, together as they often.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Did Baby girl was in bed. Already it was late at.
Night we were Watching, dexter and he pulled out a.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Ring lorenzo Asked denisha to marry. Him she said.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yes we took a little happy picture and posted it
on social, media AND i was. Engaged the next. DAY
i squealed with my, Mom i'm on the phone and
all that, Stuff but to be, honest in the back
of my, Mind i'm like something felt.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Off she had always imagined that getting engaged would be
one of the happiest moments of her, life but her
happiness was laced with.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
DOUBT i kept thinking about the other mother that called, me,
like where is she in this, story in this. ENGAGEMENT
i don't know, why BUT i could not get her
out of my.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Mind lorenzo was passionate about his role as a federal,
agent but as time went, on he wanted to start
a side.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Venture he was really into, arbitration which is like the
middleman when somebody has an argument with another.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Person lorenzo decided to open a consulting business where he
would use his negotiation and conflict management skills to help
clients navigate complex custody battles or divorce. Proceedings he Told
denisha that his specialization within the federal government allowed him
to be an. Arbitrator this wasn't her area of, expertise
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so she didn't think much of. It she offered to
use her accounting skills to help get the business set.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
UP i helped him draw out like a policy and
how to get paid and all that.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Stuff Then lorenzo started taking on.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Clients his first case was a family here in Southern.
California it was a child custody. Case the mom was
not attentive to the child and the dad really wanted,
custody but they were not seeing eye to, eye so
he was going to see both sides and file.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Paperwork one, Day denisha was hanging out with some friends
when she got a call From. Lorenzo right, away she
could tell something was off with. Him he seemed. Flustered
he told, HER i.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Have to tell you what happened. Today please don't be,
Mad AND i was, like, okay what.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Happened there had been an explosive and the child custody
case he'd been working.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
On the mom was supposed to drop the baby back
off at dad's house and never, did So lorenzo went
with dad to go and look for the. Child he.
Said they found mom and, child And lorenzo got out
to get the, child and the mom fought him and
he held her. Back authorities were called and the mom
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went to the.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Hospital when the police, came they Arrested lorenzo and his,
client the child's.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Father So lorenzo and the father went to, jail but
he had billed himself.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Out he was calling her after posting. Bail tanisha was
stunned and.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Furious this was a client of, yours your first. Case
why were you on the street looking for people and
grabbing kids out of people's, Arms, like why would you do?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
That lorenzo didn't have much to say in his own.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Defense he, SAID i just got, passionate you, know it
was a. Mess he brushed.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Off the altercation as merely a one. Off he did
have one major, worry.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Though he said he was concerned because he did not
reveal his arrest to his superior at, work and because
he works for such a high profiled government. Job that
could be a whole. Thing SO i was, like so
then tell them.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
To denisha Reporting it seemed like the obvious thing to,
do But lorenzo told her it wasn't that. EASY a
little while after, That denisha was home alone with her,
baby but she heard a commotion outside her front.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Door they are knocking at my neighbors right across from,
me really, loud aggressive, knock AND i hear whoever is
asking For.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Larry the neighbors didn't. Answer denisha heard footsteps walking, away.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And suddenly the knock is on my. DOOR i opened the.
Door these two men in street clothes are claiming to
BE Us marshals and they're looking For. LARRY i, EXPLAIN
i don't know A, larry and they, said, well he
goes By.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Lorenzo tanisha And lorenzo were making things, work raising their
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one year old daughter. Together lorenzo's work as an agent
WITH dcis meant he was often away from. Home one,
Day tanisha was at home with their baby when she
heard a knock at the. Door when she opened, it
TWO Us marshalls were standing on her front porch.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
And they're looking For larry AND i, EXPLAIN i don't Know.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Alarry this didn't make. Sense surely the agents had the
details mixed up and we're at the wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
House and they, explain, well he goes By. Lorenzo sometimes
my whole body is, HOT i feel like my stomach is.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Dropped then one of the marshals pulled out a photo
of the man they were looking for.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
And they showed me a picture and it's the first
THING i ever. Saw it's his dating profile. PICTURES i was, like,
yeah that is my. Fiance they repeat that they're from
THE Us marshals and he is. Wanted danisha's head was.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Spinning she needed more.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Information what are you talking? About what is this? About
and they, said we can't really tell you, much but
he is wanted for a weapons charge AND i, said,
well that doesn't make. Sense he's an agent with our.
Government he wears a badge and a.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Gun THE us marshals asked If lorenzo was. Home denisia
said he was, not but they told her they needed
to come in and search the house. Themselves her heart
was beating out of her.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Chest i've never been in, trouble not even a little.
BIT i mean a couple of detentions in junior, high
SO i don't know the law like. That SO i
allowed one of them to. LOOK i asked them to
be quiet because baby girl was.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Sleeping one of the marshals searched the house while the
other Asked denisia questions About. Lorenzo when they were certain
he wasn't hiding inside the, house they Gave denisia their
contact information and. Left denisha felt like the ground beneath
her was, shifting like she couldn't take a full.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Breath my mind is all over the, place totally, nervous
in a. FOG i was so scared THAT i did something.
WRONG i immediately Called, lorenzo.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
But he already.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Knew he's, like, YEAH i saw it on the nanny.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Cam he had been watching THE Us marshall search their
home through the nanny cam he set up in their living.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Room it was as if he were waiting for this to.
Happen why what do you watch at that very? Moment
why now he knew he knew.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Something as, Always lorenzo was calm and had an, explanation.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Don't, worry, babe it's just a. Misunderstanding it's BECAUSE i
didn't tell my boss about the.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Arrest To, denisha that explanation didn't seem to add. Up
THE Us marshall said he was wanted for a weapons.
Charge lorenzo's arrest had been months, ago and he never
made any mention of a. Weapon, plus as part of his,
job he was required to Carry none of this made.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
SENSE i don't know why the government would be this
mad about a stupid. Arrest you got in a, fight
like that's not a big.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Deal lorenzo assured her that he had everything under.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Control this is nothing and he will fix. It don't.
Worry i'm going to clean it.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Up first there was a lieing about his, kids the
secrecy around his. Job then there was his, arrest and
now he was wanted BY Us.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
MARSHALS i cannot have. THIS i have worked very hard
to have a life of peace and we have a.
Child NOW i cannot HAVE us marshals knocking on my
door asking me where you, Are, like this is. Ridiculous
what is?
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Happening even Though lorenzo seemed calm on the, phone it
became clear To denisia that he was hiding something because
that day she waited for him to come, home but
he never, did not that day or the next, day
and he wasn't answering her. Calls that's when she realized.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
He was essentially on the, run trying to avoid THE Us,
marshals trying to avoid. ARREST i had no. INFORMATION i
didn't know where he. WAS i didn't know what was.
Happening nothing felt.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Normal lorenzo called her a few. Times he Telled denisha
he was. Safe he was still sorting it all. Out
she kept urging him to just be honest and turn himself.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
IN i don't understand why people are looking for you
and why it would be so hard for you to
just go ahead and tell your, boss get your, punishment
and get it over.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
With as the days turned into, weeks she clung onto
the idea that he could fix it and come home
to their, Daughter but his absence Meant denisha was suddenly
responsible for running the.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
HOUSEHOLD i hadn't seen. Him he is not helping me
take care of the. Baby he is not financially there.
Either i'm doing this all by.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Myself the Longer lorenzo was on the, run the More
denisha questioned the stories he'd been telling.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Her it was a balance of really, scared, angry and
missing him all at the same. TIME i was so
anxious and my neck. HURT i was so.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Tense lorenzo had been gone for nearly a. Month denisha
was in.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
DENIAL i have a baby with, him AND i love
him so. MUCH i didn't need. PERFECTION i just wanted
my family. Together even if it's, peace it's, peace AND
i could pretend like nothing else is.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Wrong when she didn't hear from, him she started checking,
online googling his name to see if there was any.
News that's how she saw the.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Picture they actually posted On. Twitter it's just so weird to,
me BUT i see my big strong man with. Handcuffs
lorenzo had been. Arrested they found, him THE Us marshalls found.
HIM i don't know where they found. HIM i always
try to look at the. Background it looks like a,
house maybe a parking. Garage but, yeah they got.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Him But denisia still didn't know what Exactly lorenzo had.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Done all of those arrests are public, records SO i
was able to look everything. Up and his charges were child,
endangerment false, imprisonment, conspiracy, violence impersonating a peace. Officer all
of them are, horrible but the one that really stood
out to me was impersonating a peace.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Officer peace officer is a blanket to describe law enforcement
officers and includes the, police, sheriffs and special. Agents seeing
that charge was the first Time tunisia Realized lorenzo wasn't
who he said he.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Was he was not an agent with the. Government all
of that's made. Up and because he's not an agent
with the. Government he's in, big big trouble because he's.
Pretending that made more sense to me than just the stupid.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Fight there were no further details in the arrest. Record
what did they mean by child endangerment and false? Imprisonment
in the, moment all she knew for sure was that
he'd been lying to, her and seeing his, charges she
knew that his lies were serious.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Criminal, EMOTIONALLY i was a. MESS i was embarrassed and.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Shocked she struggled to accept that this was really. Happening
worst of all was accepting that the future they'd been
planning together was.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Gone and this is after like these fantasy conversations THAT
i would have with him getting married and buying a
house and like really living our lives out as a power,
Couple all that went out the.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Window she was left to raise their daughter on her
own While lorenzo sat in.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Jail i'm still going through with those partum and Then
i'm working full, time trying to keep up with the
bills and life and. Cleaning it's all on. Me it's
all on. Me so because he's in, Prison i'm only
able to talk to him when he calls.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Me the first time they talked on the, Phone lorenzo
didn't have any. Answers he's stuck by his story that
he was a federal agent and his arrest was all
a big.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Misunderstanding his perspective of the story of how he got
arrested in the first place does not add. Up so
what is happening is? ALL i kept, thinking, like what is?
Happening AM i ignoring?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Something then one Day denisha got a phone call while
she was at. Work she recognized the CALLER id it
Was lorenzo's, ex the woman who'd called On.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
THANKSGIVING i, answer and she comes in. Hot she comes,
in like who is this and she sounds like she's ready.
FIGHT i, Say I'm lorenzo's. Fiance she, Said I'm lorenzo's.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Fiance but the truth Was denisha needed her. Help maybe
this woman had the answers she.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Didn't she asked, her can you tell me what's going?
On tell me your. Perspective she tells me he was never.
Working every time he was not at my, house he
was at her. House that he is sleeping around AND
i need to get. Tested it's really.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Serious it turned out they weren't the only two Women
lorenzo had been in multiple relationships at the same, time
and he made all of the women he was with
believe they were the only. One but that wasn't even
the worst of. It the woman on the phone said
That lorenzo had gotten another woman pregnant around this same
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time That DENISIA i had been pregnant with their. Daughter
and this other woman apparently lived In denisia's, neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
And she said she lived just next door and has
a baby around the same age as my.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Baby and this was on top of the three secret
children he had before he Met. Denisia she recognized the
pain in this woman's, voice and she believed Her lorenzo
had deceived them. Both later that same, Day lorenzo Called
denisia from. Present she answered on the first, ring AND.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I let them have it for the first time since
all of this has been going. On you're. TRASH i
don't trust anything you're. Saying i'm going to get full.
CUSTODY i don't want to ever see you. Again we're
not getting over. This we're. Done AND i don't say
things UNLESS i meet them AND i meant. Them she
hung up the. PHONE i was sad That i'm losing
WHAT i really, Wanted but Also i'm in a space
(40:57):
WHERE i cannot continue to pretend everything's. Okay this is not,
okay it's not.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Normal the man she loved felt more like a.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Phantom now what CAN i say is even? Real did
he love? Me why? Me why did you choose?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Me denisha kept in touch With lorenzo's. Mom one, day
when they were out to, lunch his mom said something
that exposed yet another.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
LIE i asked his mom How Puerto rico, was and
she says that she's never been. There not only were
they not, there but he was not born In Puerto,
rico so that was a. Lie he was born In
la he was Named.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Larry Before lorenzo's, arrest she'd seen a copy of his
birth certificate.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Which showed me that he was born In Puerto rico
and his name Was. LORENZO i saw the birth. Certificate
it Said Puerto.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Rico but that document must have been.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Forged so who doctored this? Document that's so weird and
WHY i lie about?
Speaker 1 (42:00):
That hearing this reveal Threw denisha. Off she was too
flustered to ask his mom any follow up questions in the,
moment but later when she was, alone she realized she
needed more. Answers she didn't even know Who lorenzo, was
and she wanted to find.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Out NOW i Know larry is officially who he is
and born In LA i was able to get deeper
and look for more.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Receipts she scoured The internet for everything she could find
About lorenzo Aka. Larry her search for the truth took.
Years we want to walk you Through lorenzo's criminal, past
combining What denisha and our team has found. Out his
given name at birth Was Larry Cornell Diamond. Junior in,
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total he had six arrests and. Convictions we're going to
detail a few of. Them it all started in two
thousand In Los. Angeles larry was twenty two at the.
Time he and his Friend Robert hun showed up on
announced at a woman's. Apartment they knocked on her door
and told her that they WERE fbi. Agents they said
that they needed to search her. Home they were armed
(43:10):
and she let them. In but they WEREN'T fbi. Agents
they were bounty. Hunters The Los Angeles times reported on the.
Crime here's part of that reporting read by a voice
Actor huon.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
And diamond proclaimed to be affiliated with a non existent
branch of THE. Fbi heon And diamond created a fake
search warrant and claimed they WERE fbi agents when they
made their way through a woman's sam pager apartment searching
for stolen. Computers both men were wearing holstered semi automatic
guns and silver badges that they claimed WERE fbi.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Badges that was the start of a, pattern an almost
pathological scheme of impersonating authority LIKE, FBI cia or police
as means of. Extortion after he was, Released larry went
right back to. It in two thousand and, three he
walked into a hardware store where he intended to carry
(44:04):
out his next. Crime The District attorney's office In Central
california released a statement explaining what happened that. Day we've
had a voice actor read part of.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
It diamond went to the hardware company dressed like a
law enforcement. Officer he was wearing all, black displaying a,
badge and claimed that he was AN fbi agent with
The American. Consulate he then threatened to arrest the owner
unless the owner paid ten thousand dollars directly To.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Diamond for that, offense he served a four year prison.
Sentence this was so much. Darker Than denisia. Imagined lorenzo
wasn't just lying about his. Identity he was threatening and
exploiting innocent. People he would show up armed and in,
(44:52):
disguise then demand money or. Valuables he abused authority he
didn't even, have and he did that over and over
again for his entire adult. Life lorenzo wasn't just unfaithful or.
Delusional he was. Dangerous In september of twenty, sixteen he
legally changed his name To Lorenzo Sanchez. Diamond the very next,
(45:16):
week he was arrested, again this time for possession of a.
Firearm denisha poured over all of these.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Documents i'm reading the whole, thing and they catch him
at The denny's in his military gear with guns in his,
trunk and he gets.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Arrested none of his arrests or prison sentences deterred. Him
each time he was, released he picked up where he
left off and continued his impersonation Con even After denisia
ended things With lorenzo and he was imprisoned for the
sixth time in twenty twenty, three he would insist that
he was always a federal. Agent at least that's what
(45:55):
he Told denisha but he asked her not to come
to his sentencing. Hearing there he pled guilty to all
the counts he was. Facing he was sentenced to another
eighteen months in. Prison denisia thought that would be the
end of the, story but While lorenzo was behind, bars
she got a strange.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
EMAIL i got a mysterious email From Bubba. Walker never
heard of this. Person they introduced themselves as A cia
agent and then there was A mp three voicemail in.
It it was a computerized female.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Voice the sender claimed to be an employee at THE,
cia Singing lorenzo's praises for his invaluable efforts in the
global war on. Terrorism they Said lorenzo was a good
man with more intelligence than.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Most the recording just was Like Lorenzo sanchez is a
great person and he is a great stand up, citizen
and THAT i should trust. It and also said not
to tell anybody about this message and to destroy the.
Message AFTER i got, IT i told. Everybody my sister was, like,
(47:05):
WELL i can say a lot of bad things about This.
Vamba people go through the ends of the earth to
fake A cia call to get you to believe his,
Bullshit like this is so, stupid it was.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Laughable she no longer believed Anything lorenzo. Said after nine
months behind, Bars lorenzo was released on good. Behavior even
though things were over between, them she Let lorenzo FaceTime
their daughter. Occasionally on one of those, Calls lorenzo said
he had some grave.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
News that's when he revealed he had. CANCER i thought
it was another, tactic another, lie maybe to get my
walls down, again to see if he can get back
into my good. Graces so she told, him you're not
invited in my home or my heart. Anymore if you're,
SICK i help you steel better.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Soon but the next time they had a video, call
deniseh notice that the room he was calling from was.
Different he was in the hospital and he Looked. Gaune
he'd lied about so, much but this time he was
telling the.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Truth he has stage four colon. Cancer he's very.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Sick lorenzo's health only declined from. There he went into.
Hospice denisha decided to visit him and say.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Goodbye he looks really. Frail you could push him over
with just the.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Breath seeing him at the end of his life brought up,
overwhelming conflicting.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Emotions before all the things that went. Wrong he showed
me love like no one else had showed me before.
THIS i felt, RESPECTED i felt loved and desired having
him destroy my, life and now he was. Dying she
walked over to his.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
BEDSIDE i was so.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Sad it was so sad to. SEE i never wished
this for. ANYONE i held his hand and told HIM
i forgave, him and THAT i got, this AND i
will take care of our, daughter and you can let.
Go she left his.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Room within forty eight, Hours lorenzo passed. Away denisia reached
out to us a few months. Later she's still processing the.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Loss it's unending, grief grieving the life THAT i THOUGHT i,
had the, husband the, baby the, house all of those.
THINGS i had it for so, little such a little.
Time i'm grieving that all the. Time i'm grieving the
single motherhood of it, all AND i a grieve for my.
(49:43):
Baby that grief is muddied by. Confusion it's really hard
to determine who this person.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Was lorenzo's obituary describes him as a, doctor, author, poet
and rapper who loved macaroni and cheese and Watching. Jeopardy
His LinkedIn profile describes him as a legal expert and
human rights. Consultant lorenzo tried on so many, disguises so
many prestigious, careers, doctor, lawyer federal. Agent denisia knows now
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he wasn't any of those. Things she's left wondering if
anything he ever told her was.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
REAL i still am not one hundred percent sure what
the truth.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Is denisha has had to make peace with the confusion
and Grief lorenzo left. Behind she hasn't been in contact
with the other Women lorenzo deceived for her reaching out
with reopen. Wounds she is trying to.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Heal my focus is on my baby and doing my job.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Well she has built an impressive.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Career i'm making six figures at a nonprofit as the accounting.
Manager i'm so proud of me to be in this.
ROLE i worked hard to. Get here's a.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Safe and loving home where her daughter gets to express herself.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Authentically baby girl is. Thriving she loves, school and it's
already time to enroll her in regular elementary. School and that's,
emotional and she loves, dancing loves.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Ballet these, Days denisius us her own. Strength.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Clearly i'm resilient BECAUSE i struggle with depression, anxiety but
this did not strike. ME i am still Going i'm
still standing, strong And i'm going to be.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Fine we end every weekly episode with the same, question
why do you want to share your?
Speaker 2 (51:39):
STORY i cycle through grief on a daily. BASIS i
feel very lonely having experienced this and not having a
lot of people that understand Where i'm, at that wore
these same shoes and had the same. Thoughts SO i
really wanted to find my, people tell other people they're not,
(52:00):
alone and to just know that somebody knows What i'm going.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
Through on the next episode Of Betrayal, Weekly.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
You've got to arrest him BECAUSE i don't know where
this is going to. End he's a, liar he's a,
manipulator and he's AN, abusa AND i don't think he'll
stop unless he's made to.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by Audiochuck Media Company.
Betrayal Weekly
Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.