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November 19, 2025 16 mins

Joey P. and Bogs are back with their Week 12 Thursday Night Football breakdown as the Buffalo Bills take on the Houston Texans!

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Intro - 0:00:00

Tale of the Tape - 0:01:59

Hard Rock Bet - 0:05:00

James Cook Under 74.5 Rushing Yards - 0:06:14

Jayden Higgins Over 27.5 Receiving Yards - 0:07:31

Josh Allen Over 0.5 INTs - 0:08:49

Dalton Schultz Under 4.5 Receptions - 0:11:07

Woody Marks Over 11.5 Receiving Yards - 0:12:12

BettingPros Prop Bet Cheat Sheet - 0:13:14

Same Game Parlay - 0:13:33

TD Calls - 0:14:23

Outro - 0:16:12

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's time to place
your bets. It is me Joey P. Joe P's a
pia and this is BP NFL. It's time to look
to Thursday Night football. Scott bog and I are going
to pick apart the Bills and Houston Texans. But we're
coming off a hot Monday night performance where Scott Bogmin
went four and one. I was all over the Cowboys

(00:21):
with the three and a half. We had a great day.
Ceedee Lamb touchdown everything we could possibly ask for, and
a whole lot of George Pickens. So, as a Steelers fan,
what's it like watching George Pickens put up a game
like that?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Unsurprising to me? I mean, he is a elite level talent.
If Dallas can get his head screwed on straight, he
is going to be an amazing wide receiver. I don't
think anybody's gonna be able to keep his head screwed
on straight. They already haven't. He got fined the week before,
and when they are inevitably bounced out of playoff contention,

(00:53):
he will be a gigantic baby man like he always is.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
And you know you gottay him a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Very risky, very risky on set for that kind of
contract for somebody who's you know, getting benched before games
or Steelers getting in.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
For another white out. Joe George Pickens would look amazing
next to DK.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
He would.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
They just couldn't do it. He was late to everything.
I saw Jerry Dulac talking about he was late to
a game and they had asked he had to have
an MRI before this game, and they had asked Hamlin,
what's going to happen. He said, well, he's probably gonna
play a limited amount of snaps. But he showed up
like fifteen minutes before kickoff and they had to take her.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
That same story this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, it's gross.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
So great player, well, great player, million dollars talents.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
In mcdermot's nah Coleman treatment is what he needs?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh yeah, well, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Know, Shavers look pretty good, but I kind of desperate
and deeply had to pick him up in one. All right,
let's talk about the next Thursday night football game here
that we've got. We know Scott Bogg's favorite thing in
the world is Thursday night football. But let's look at
the tail of the tape. Here, we've got Buffalo who's
seven and three. The Houston Texans are five and five.
Right now, Texans got a fighting for their life obviously,

(02:06):
the CJ. Stroud injury big impactful moment here. So you're
getting Houston plus six and a half even though they're
at home. You're getting forty three and a half for
the over, forty four and a half for the under,
plus two fifty for the money line. Now, the spread
here on Buffalo ranges. I've seen it on betting pros
at minus three and a half all the way to minus.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Five and a half.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
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that Buffalo at plus one and take it to the bank.
I like that Buffalo had to bounce back last week
at home. Hopefully you know that gives them a little

(02:48):
bit of momentum going into this game. And I just
think although the Texans defense is fantastic, Josh Allen will
make it up places for the Buffalo Bills to win
this road game. Now, wouildch shock me if the Houston
Texans beat them? No, because the Buffalo Bills have dropped
a lot of games this year. Then I was shocked
that they lost Miami, even New England to a certain degree,
I was kind of shocked that they did not take

(03:09):
it to the Patriots. So, Bogs, where do you stand
on the lines on this game?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Over underspread? What do you like?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I mean, I think I like the home team because
right now I see you can get him at plus
six and a half for Houston. So I just think
that the score plays so low. It's Thursday night, right,
There's weird stuff that happens on Thursday, obviously, So I
just I think if you've given me more than three
and a half for the Texans at home, I'm gonna

(03:35):
take it. Even with Davis Mills, I don't know that
this year that there has been a massive difference between CJ.
Stroud and Davis Mills. I think they've been pretty comparable.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
That's depressing. I just wanted to let that sit in
the ether for a moment. Don't care for that. The
Nico Collins volume the last couple weeks has been a
real uptick too.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
What is that offense?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I guess we'll get into the props and things like that,
but you know, his health obviously not one hundred percent
one hundred percent this time of year typically anyway, But
what do you think that kind of impact makes on
this game too? Is we're waiting for more clarity here
entering Thursday.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, I mean, I don't really like obviously Nico being down,
but I think we've seen more talent on the field recently,
with Higgins getting more looks, Woody Marks getting more looks
as well. They're they're going towards the youth that works.
So I think the deeper we get into the season,
the less we'll see of Kirk, the more we'll see
of nol you know. So I just think that they're

(04:29):
they're now realizing, Okay, look, if the rookies are, you know,
up to speed on everything we do here, let's get
him on the field because this is why we drafted them.
So they still need to fix the O line in
the offseason. The Texans so well, they.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Had to do it last year and the year before
that too. Maybe stop trading offensive lineman and then captains
of your team in the off season. Maybe that would
be a good thing to.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Do, the same reason why Pickens left in the locker room.

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(06:07):
All right, let's get to the table of the tape.
When it comes to the props, here again, Boggs was
four and one a fantastic Monday night. Let's start with
James Cook. The rushing total seventy four and a half.
We're going over or underbugs.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
We're gonna go under. And I just think, you know,
most of these totals tick up the closer we get
to kickoff, so I think it'll get up to seventy
seven to seventy eight somewhere around there by the time
we're home. But last two games have been tough running
for the Bills sixteen for forty eight for Cook. Now
he had the three catches for sixty six in a touchdown.
He's still an incredible athlete in space. But then against

(06:39):
Miami also thirteen to fifty three. Houston is number three
and rushing yards allowed per game only eighty seven point one.
They're tied for second running backyards per carry at only
three point six and their fifth in PFF's run defense grade.
So I know you don't want to throw into Stingley
and Lassiter and the great secondary that they have, but
they don't make running very easy either the Texans. So

(07:03):
I think, just seeing the struggles the last two weeks
from the Bills run game, I'm gonna go under on
this total. Now, he'll probably get a bunch of chances,
and you know, James Cook's got great vision, he can
break one. But Houston tackles well. Really really, their defense
is what is keeping them in this season. So I
have a lot of respect for Houston's defense. So I

(07:24):
will go under on James Cook. And we're starting with
unders because Thursday games have been disgusting.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
That's fine, That's fine, all right. Last two weeks, Jayden
Higgins has fourteen targets. He's caught nine of them for
over one hundred yards and one score in the game
against Jacksonville. So what does the Higgins night look like
against Buffalo this week?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
More than twenty seven and a half, That's what I say.
He's passed this in three of his last four games.
He had the second highest amount of snaps and routes
run for Houston last week and seven targets at fourteen targets,
but it wasn't like ten and four. It was seven
and seven in both those games. And those both games.
Both those games were with Davis Mills at the helm, right,

(08:05):
So I just think he's on the field more. He's
built a nice rapport with Mills because Mills was running
a lot of second team to start the season. It
just works. So I really like Higgins in this game.
And we know Nico's coming in here, you know less
than one hundred percent, So if anything happens to Nico,
it's gonna be Higgins on the field constantly. So yeah,

(08:25):
I'm big on Higgins this year. This week and this
is a very low total for him.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, I love the total. I love the Higgins call.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Honestly, Bonds, this might be my favorite one that you've
got lined up today.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
I think this one is almost a.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Lock, you know, because if you do think Buffalo can,
you know, put up some points there, You're gonna push
Mills a little bit to throw the football more. At
twenty seven and a half is kind of a joke
considering what the last two weeks have looked like.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
So I love this one. I think it's great. All right.
Next up, we'll talk about Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Now, Josh Allen obviously last week monstrous game, right, but
he kind of makes some mistakes. We know that's Josh Allen.
Sometimes try hard to make a play. Josh Allen ends
uppack firing a little bit sometimes on the Buffalo Bills
and they're win loss record. But what does it look
like tonight for him for an interception? Are we playing
that because he has turned the ball over the last

(09:11):
couple weeks?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, I really do like it. I'll say this when
I dug a little deeper, he has not been putting
the ball on Harm's way at all. I think he's
like fourth and turnover where he plays this season. But
the last two weeks have been tough, and we know
that Josh Allen, when he starts to look downfield, he's
gonna take some of those risks, and he might get

(09:33):
frustrated early against Houston and take a risk and throw
it deep. And that is a bad idea against Houston
because they are tied for third in interceptions with ten
right now. But most books have the juice on the
over at like minus one twenty the juice on the
under at like, you know, minus one oh five, so

(09:54):
they're showing you it's worse odds for him to throw
this pick. And we've only had four Thursday Night games
with no interceptions, right Dallas and Philly Week one coming
off a massive amount of rest. All that, but then
Washington Green Bay didn't throw pick, San Francisco and the
Rams that everything was complete in that game, and then
last week with the Jets and Patriots there were no

(10:16):
picks thrown. So that's it. Every other game had, every
Thursday night game has a pick because these guys are
playing on short rests. So I think we can get
one here on Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
In all fairness with the Jets. You know, you have
to throw the football to have picks, you know, just putting.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
That out there.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I mean, they might have had a decent throwing game
of ad night. Mitchell had some hands.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Taylor too, There was drops everywhere. I mean, I think
it's just kind of comical that they benchfields like. I
just think it's comical they didn't keep running him like
that opening drive that they had scripted where he was
running football. He was a problem. And I'm like, wow,
this is a little bit of a problem. And then
they just completely went away from it. And I'm thinking,
what is wrong with you, morons?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Like you have fields? His biggest strength is running football.
He's strong, he's fast, he runs well in space.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
If you're gonna betch him anyway, run him into the
ground right, let him ride.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Now, just ridiculous. They have their head up their rear end.
All right, let's talk about Dalton Schultz here. Now he's
another guy's getting involved with Davis Mills. But the problem
is buffalo stingy against tight ends, bogs.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Very stingy. And I can't believe that the receptions prop
is four and a half. Now it's juice Dell at
a lot of spots, but I believe minus one thirty
on hard rock, so not bad here. Buffalo is number
one against tight ends, as you mentioned, two and a
half receptions twenty seven yards in point one on the touchdowns,

(11:36):
Hunter Henry got more yards two for forty six, Kelsey
four for sixty six, but those are the only two
to go over his yardage total. We're not taking the
yardage though. No tight ends over four catches against Buffalo
this year, so four and a half. I know Davis
Mills loves to rely on him and everything, but they

(11:57):
have been so good at down imposing tight ends. I
just don't buy that Schultz is going to get to
four and a half here, So give me the under
on four and a half receptions. It is a nice
one to pair with something else you like. I just
think it's very safe bet.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
All right.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Bog's the last guy we're going to talk about. His
Woody Marx and this Texans backfield certainly started to move
in his favor. But based on game script, potentially for
this game, where do you want to go? You want
to go for a rushing total, you want to go
for receiving total. What's the best way to bettle Woody
Marks this week.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
I kind of like both, but I'll say this, every
single projections I had I saw had him over on
receiving and slightly under on rushing, even though I kind
of like the rushing total too, But if I'm handing
out advice here, I will take the projections as well.
And the total is only eleven and a half on
the receiving yards, and the last two weeks in a

(12:47):
row he's had his highest a half percentage of the season.
He's been over twenty routes run and both of those
games projections are over this. And it's really been all
or nothing for him most of the time. Three games
with no catches, three games with one catch, but every
game with two catches he's past this. So Buffalo is
good against running backs, but they're still giving up around
thirty yards receiving to rbs every single game. So I

(13:09):
think eleven and a half is just too low for
the volume that Woody Marks is playing right now.

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Speaker 1 (13:33):
All right, let's go ahead and let's look at the
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Speaker 3 (13:53):
And for me, I'm keeping it simples.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
You know I should have had last week, I had
one leg too many, So I'll just get a cut
off a lag here and take something simple, which is
Buffalo bills covering the five and a half, which is
what you're seeing in most places. But if again into
the one at hard Rock, you take the plus one
and then Josh Allen to score a touchdown, because Josh
Allen has been scoring a lot of touchdowns recently. If
he realized this he has seven touchdowns in his last

(14:16):
three games, rushing touchdowns everybody. So Josh Allen running amuck
literally right now, doing everything he can, and it's only
minus one ten. So on giving away my touchdown call
as well. So you put the touchdown for Josh Allen
along with the Bills covering the spread and you get
plus one ninety eight. So that's a little two to
one action for you on Thursday Night football. So I've
given away my touchdown call. I've given away my SGP Boggs.

(14:38):
Give away your touchdown call for Thursday Night Week twelve.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
How about Davis Mills at plus eleven hundred.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I mean there's a lot of big ones this week.
He doesn't run a lot. I have Jayden Higgins five
to one. There's a bunch of them in a kind
of fun.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, there's a lot of good ones, but plus eleven hundred.
He doesn't run a bunch, but he has a rushing
touchdown this year. So if you're gonna give me the
those odds, I'll play them. So yeah, plus eleven hundred
on Davis Mills. Let's let's get tricky with it. I
like that.

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