June 3, 2026 • 31 mins
Heather opens up about an emotional medical appointment that ended with her walking out in tears.
Terry weighs in with nearly 30 years of marriage memories, a Facetime faux pas, a surprisingly effective sleep hack, and why he might run for mayor of Los Angeles.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I'm Heathery Brow, I'm doctor Terry Rowe, and we're going
to keep this between us.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
No we're not.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We're not, because I'm going to tell you everything. I
had a very bad day. I wasted a lot of
time and I did not get my mission accomplished at all.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Why what happened?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
So, Like a lot of women out there, I have
dense breast.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Tissue, which I enjoy.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
By the way, I know, thank you one of the.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Reasons I was attracted to you. Now. Oh yeah, Actually,
when I met you, I thought you had small breasts.
I was very disappointed because the first night, wearing some
weird compressive.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I was wearing a dress that was tight and it
made my boobs look flat.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You walked up with that face. I went all right,
And then all of a sudden, you cleared this piece
of furniture and there were no breasts there, and I
went bummer, Oh, what a bomber to fix. I'll give
her breast. That will be our second day.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I actually said to him when we first started dating,
I'm like, I don't know if this is going to
work out, because this body's real.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But then on the second date and I all of
a sudden you show up with like a pair of
d cups, small d's.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
It was a natural D breasts.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Dream girl on steroids.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Had them when I needed them and I started.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm the one took the steroids to become more attractive
in the gym. Do you nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Okay, we're really digressing here anyway, incredible breasts you had
and let me just the children just suck the life.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Out of them.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Totally did deflated by Sorry, you don't seem that upset
about them now.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Actually they weirdly came back in kind of a nice
pleasurable way.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But not big.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
But they're they're not big, but they look good.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Okay, now we're grosso.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
They have a nice shape.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Anyway, I would just like to highlight the fat, my
interest and married breast. Yes, I would just like to
highlight the fact that dense breast tissue has nothing to
do with the appearance, no at all at all. You
can have pancakey nothing breast and still have dense press tissue.
(02:18):
It is about the tissue beings.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, all right, I'm sorry, I apologize. Now I want
to hear what so you did?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So you want to hear what happened because it was
really traumatizing.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah you did because I called you and you didn't answer.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Go ahead, But what do you mean you knew? If
I didn't answer, how would I know?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Because then I told Jamie to tell you. I'm gonna
tell you the story. So I have dense breast tissue.
And when you have dense breast tissue, you have a
mammogram every year, and they also recommend an ultrasound. But
years ago they also used to recommend an MRI with contrast.
So you'd go have an MRI where they put you
in the tube and the whole thing, and they would
(02:58):
inject you with a a thing called gatallidium. What is gatalidium?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
A contrast agent, just like you know iodine or any
kind of X ray that the that highlights, you know,
it makes that test enhanced.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Right, So basically, when you have this dense tissue, you
can't see as well beginnings of cancer, calcifications, changes in
the tissue. So they want you to do this MR.
But the problem is this gatolidium. It's questionable what this
does to your brain.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Right, it has no obviously metal in it, so that's
why you can use it, right For MRIs.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But there's many people out there that feel like it
is bad for your brain and your body to have
high levels of gatoidium, which, as it turns out.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I have dementia and const dementia.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
What anyway, so I stopped having them done, but I
always get the mammogram and I get the ultrasound, and
my doctor told me to go get this what is
it called?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Oh oh, iodine enhanced mammography, right, my RAM with idine.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, but you know, it's funny. I thought I was
going for an MRI because that's what everyone kept calling it.
Everyone kept saying an MRI with iodine.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, No, I don't think you can do an MRI
with that.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well apparently you can't. So anyway, so I show up
to this place. Usually I go to Hogue Hospital in
Newport Beach, the Breast Center, who it is fabulous and
I love them. Yeah, they're amazing, amazing, but they don't
do this particular.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
They don't iodine thing.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
So although I wont no, I don't think they do so,
but certainly the only there's only one place in Beverly
Hills or LA that did it. So my doctor sent
me to this place. I went there today I get
there fifteen minutes early, and it's kind of like in
this building, it's not it's certainly not fancy, it's not lovely.
It feels like a factory sort of spot. There's a
(04:58):
lot of people there. I get there, I check in,
I fill out the papers whatever. I'm there early, and
then after about twenty minutes they called me up and
they said, we're running an hour behind. Oh an hour behind, And.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
By the way, I ran two and a half hours
behind in my office today. Do they apologize?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Who cares? But this is an MRI place and imaging center.
How do you run an hour behind? So they told
me that it was because people showed up late. But
I don't understand. If people show up late, why do
they honor the appointment because that just ruins everyone else's appointments.
(05:41):
It's so rude anyway, so rude. I'm on time. They
tell me it's going to be an hour, and I go, okay,
is it a real hour or is it possible the
hour could turn into an hour and a half because
then I'll just reschedule. She goes, no, no, it'll be an hour,
and I said, okay. So I'm sitting there. Eventually they
take me back. I change my top. I put on
the open in the front only gown. I don't even
(06:03):
tie it. I'm just kind of holding it. I find
a seat. It's packed, there's no I got the last locker.
This place is like very very busy. And after sitting
there for an hour, I asked one of the gals,
you know, can you check where I am? It's like
being at a restaurant, right, like, where am I on
the waiting list?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Now?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Sooner resitting? So she said, oh, there's one person before
you and whatever. And now it's an hour fifteen, it's
an hour twenty. And then finally one of them introduces
me to this woman who claims to be the grandmother
of this iodine technology. And I go, that's cool. Great.
So I'm chatting with her for a minute and she goes,
(06:46):
this person's done. You will be in next. And I said,
so this is cool, it's safe. And that's when she said,
I basically the grandmother of this iodine technology. It's great,
And I said, okay, cool. So I'm waiting there. They
finally take me into the room and it's not her.
It's a different radiologist, a guy who is very funny
and sweet, but jokey and.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Was telling me, isn't that me? Isn't that me as
a doctor?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So but this is the breast center where people are
a screen for cancer, so let's just start there. So
joky Sweet's good. So he's telling me about all the
risks of iodine and it started to get it scary
to me, and I said, well, you know what, what's
the reaction? Can you go to anaphylaxis? And he goes yes,
(07:33):
And I go, well, how do you know if someone's
allergy to iodine? He goes, you know when you know?
And I said, oh my gosh, I go have you
ever had one? And he goes no, and he knocks
on wood. I mean, I just was all like a
little off putting to me. I was like, okay, and
then I said, you know, I'm married to a doctor.
Doctor's wives get funky things whatever. And I go, why
(07:53):
do you look so amused right now? And he goes, oh,
you just remind me of a friend of mine who
would be reacting the same way. I'm now a little
nervous about the iodine situation. I'm feeling like, I don't know,
it's now here an hour and a half do I
really want to be here this iodine thing. What if
I'm allergic? I'm texting you. You're not answering, Jamie. I
text Terry's assistant and I said, can you ask him
(08:14):
if he thinks I'm okay with iodine? And his answer was,
he thinks you'll probably be okay.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, how would I know? I know, but it wasn't before.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
But isn't it different internally?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I mean I would think, I.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Don't know anyway. That freaked me out a little bit,
but fine. And then this tech takes me into another room.
They weigh you because that has to do with the
iodine thing. And then she was going to do my
IV and I said, oh, this is the vein. Everyone
knows this one vein right here. And she goes, okay, great,
she's got like a light.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
She's looking at you know who you are, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So she's looking for the light. She's got a light.
She looking for the vein. She does this whole setup thing,
and no ultra sound.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You know they use now ultrasound to find the vein.
They do actually robots now do it with an ultras.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I would prefer that. So she does her whole setup
and She goes, do you want me to give you
the play by play or do you want me to
just go for it? I go no, no, no, just go
for it. So I'm sort of like not looking at her.
I don't want to make her nervous. I don't whatever.
And she sticks me twice like sticks it, moves it around,
can't find it, pulls out the needle, puts it back in,
(09:30):
very painful, and I'm tough, moves it around whatever, can't
find it. And then she goes, well, that vein's not
going to work because when you have contrast and the
vein moves, you know, sometimes people will tell you that
you have like rolling veins.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Or that's when you're trying to put it in, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, or veins that are too small or whatever it is.
It's like okay, And I went, uh huh, and I go, well,
to do here because I would like to avoid getting
stuck four times because.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
She got it in, but what she thought, No, No, she.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Stuck me two once, moved it around, didn't get the vein,
did it again, didn't get the vein, and then was
standing there talking to herself about what to do. And
I said, go in, Oh yeah, totally completely hydrated. And
then she goes, I'm going to take you to the
RN and I go, okay, great, let's do that. And
so she brings me another jacket to put on, and
(10:27):
I go, why you're getting me a jacket? She goes,
it's downstairs and this is like in a huge building.
And I went downstairs and she goes, yeah. I go, well,
how long is that? And theyre already an hour and
thirty five minutes. I go, how long is that going
to take? She goes, I don't know. I to go now,
you know what you're going to be. I don't think
I feel comfortable about this. Yeah, And so I so
I said, I'm just gonna go, and goes okay, yep,
(10:50):
and I left, and I started crying all the way up. Yeah,
because I'm not telling the story that well, to be
honest with you, but I just want to tell you
I am very comfortable in medical environments. Being married to
Terry and being with him for almost thirty years, I
am a comfortable I'm very comfortable in hospital. I'm comfortable
with needles. I don't get squeamish, I don't nothing. And
(11:13):
I didn't even mind waiting. I got emails done. I
had things like. I wasn't hassled by any of that,
but I got to tell you, there was something about
there was like something about the way I was handled
and spoken to and treated was just it felt so
not taken care.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Of, by the way.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Except the girl that walked me out, who his name
is Lizabeth, was lovely, okay, she was so sweet. She
saw me walking out, she went, are you okay? And
I almost started crying and I said, not really, I
that one. I am going to go back to Hogue
and I'm not doing Ayadine, Okay, that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Did you know this Friday are twenty sixth year wedding anniversary.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's not twenty six exactly, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Twenty five, No, twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
What we were married in two thousand, we weren't, well, we
married ninety nine. You're kidding me, Wow, So maybe we
should party like is nineteen, so that would be twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Wow, twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It's amazing, isn't it. It's been so good. Care for
what you say right now, Terry.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I didn't even say that. I was waiting for the joke.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
No, no joke, no joke. Yeah, no, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Had a lot of fun lately.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yes, except you know what's interesting about life? Life? You know,
this whole thing that I try to lean into, you know,
when things are really bad and this this two shall pass,
and when things are really good, I naturally think this
is great. Don't enjoy it too much because this two
shell passed, Oh you should joy it fully. Well, I
do enjoy it, but don't expect it to be this
way forever. This is a this these two shell past
(12:58):
time in my life right now.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It's a little bit of a rough patch. Yes, interesting
and terrible all at the same time. Nothing you know,
life ending or anything like that. But why do things
that happen stress? That giant stress? Things come in threes?
I really believe they do you do? I had three?
I have three?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
All right, Well we'll have to go over those later.
And we can't really talk about what we're talking about. Sorry,
it's so cryptic. Nothing life ending or life changing, but
just something that, like, you go, why did that have
to happen?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah? Yeah, just one of those.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Things that happens in life.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, today was like the perfect like storm Monday. Today
was a real Monday. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
See, and maybe That's why I needed to leave that appointment.
I knew something.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Maybe maybe that was going to be three today, Like.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Maybe I would have been allergic to iodine yeah and
got into anaphylaxis.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yep, maybe that would have been the fourth thing. Yeah,
so the wait. We've been on a lot of trips
recently which have been really nice, and very good friend
of ours got married.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That was you know who got married, our buddy Robert
Saint John who built two of our homes.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, and was responsible with you.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
He was on Real Housewives Borge County many.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Times, anytimes, Yeah, and was responsible a lot obviously along
with you for that big sale we had, Yes, Sir
of life altering.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Robert and I had a lot of fun together. He
married a fantastic girl, a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Wedding, beautiful wedding cabo.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
At the wait, there was a blue moon, yeah, and
there was rainbows everywhere. Actually, the picture I posted today
for Pride, yeah, is a picture of you and I
from the wedding with this gorgeous rainbow. I've never seen
such a full, vibrant, incredible, beautiful rainbow to have that
on their wedding day. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And it's funny because you know, if I were to
make a list of currently my favorite things, what do
you think would be the top of this right now?
My favorite things traveling starlink?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Oh oh yeah, by starling starlink. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
If you have not enjoyed Wi Fi on a plane,
like I haven't in the past because it's terrible, wait
until you experience starlink. And I think some American flights
have it all. JSX has it now. It's the only
full fleet starlink flight now. It is the most amazing
thing starlink on a plane is you can FaceTime someone
(15:33):
and you can see pock marks in their face, you
can see their complex it's the most clear video. It's
like ultra high def and you can stream Apple and
Netflix and it's like.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
So the problem that airlines are having with starlink because
I think, is it American that just put in starlink
some so they're working on it. It's expensive, so they're
getting they're getting this starlink in all the commercial airplanes.
But the big debate is people would be able to
talk on the phone on the plane. So can you
(16:11):
imagine sitting on a plane across the country and someone
is talking the entire time I'm going to tell you
we were insane kill. We were in Sane Bart and
I was sitting on the beach Terry. I was waiting
for Terry. He was still at the gym, and I
(16:32):
was sitting on the beach. And there was a woman.
I kid you not in I took a video of her.
I won't post it because I don't want to do
that to her. But she was in the water, literally
in the water up to her chest, on her phone,
speaking at the top of her lungs. Oh my god,
the water is so amazing. Whoever she was talking to
(16:53):
for thirty minutes, okay, screaming in the water, like, why
aren't you here enjoying where we are? Get off the phone.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Okay, it was particularly your take because there's no ambient
sound dragging her out.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well, there's the ocean.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
But when you're on the ocean, Saint Barts is like
a swimming pool. But when you're on a plane, oh
here we go, it's very loud. Put your headphones on
and you go on starlink. You can actually have an
amazing conversation with someone on FaceTime.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Uh huh, Terry is that guy? I don't know if
you saw my Instagram story. But we went on jetsweet X. Yes,
we went on jetsweet X to go to Coppo for
this wedding, and.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Max calls me.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
You called Max, We know you were talking to Rob.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Oh Max first, then Rob multi.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
So we are sitting on this plane and there's the
ambient aircraft noise. I have my AirPods in with the
noise cancelation, and this one next to me across the aisle,
but there is speaking like he's in a private location
holding his phone, having full on FaceTime conversations, laughing, carrying on.
(18:17):
And I was like, oh my god, you're that guy.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Uh I was that guy?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
You know you are that guy.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I'm not that guy.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Pal, you are that guy.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I'm not that guy.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You are. Terry used to do that at restaurants, he
would anytime. Oh yes, anytime we're at a restaurant. One
of the kids called. He put him on FaceTime to
talk to that show. You used to show them the restaurant.
Oh yes, it was a point of contingent with me.
You stopped doing that. I appreciate that. Now you're that
plane guy.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Anyway, if you get the chance to try starlink on
the plane, I will take a terrible plane with starlink
over a first class without starlink.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So you're willing to sit and coach. No, you're willing
to sit in coach with starlink versus first class without. No, no, no,
you're you were getting bougie. You're you're saying, but.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
We know I'm just saying. I'm talking about the plane, Okay.
Like I'll go to a restaurant with less tasty food
if it's a beautiful restaurant, I have a good table, yeah,
versus a restaurant with better food and a crummy table
or an ugly restaurant.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Although I have to say I do sort of like
the notion of I'm on a plane, meaning service might
be spotty. So if I don't feel like answering someone,
I don't have to.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
No, I just I love starlink.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, you're very connected to your phone.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I am more of a screen ager than any screen
ager on the planet.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I you're the worst out of our family.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
For I am the worst. But if you're a guy
out there and you have an I'm prostatic prosthetic hyperge fee,
you get um in peelot in the night, get go
pee and say to yourself three nine, just say random,
no number patterns. Yeah, because you never will think about
anything stressful before you go back to bed. It is
so effective.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Say this again slower and honestly this is for women
also because especially if you're perimenopausal or menopausal, we get
up all night too. Yeah, and then you start, you know,
like reevaluating your life choices and thinking about everything stressful
and what someone said to you and what you have
to do this week, what you have to do tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah. So here's the thing. If you're one of those
people who if you wake up in the middle of
the night, you start to have one of those thoughts
and it causes anxiety. Now you're awake because you can't sleep.
The way to do this is the following. Wake up
before you have any thoughts. Go okay, okay, I'm gonna
turn over and I'm just going to start generating random
(20:47):
sets of numbers in my brain. Don't do addition or
any mathematics. Just go three eleven, fourteen, twenty two. And
the act of doing that, you absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
It breaks your brain pack I can't.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Think of anything. It's like when I'm doing selling on
a shopping channel, or let's say in the old days
when you did CNN and they put that thing in
your ear. Although I'm not a newsperson, but you know,
I would be an expert on a news show and
they put that what is that thing called I be
in your ear if they talk to me while I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Oh yeah, you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I'm done. I can't say the next sentence. I just
can't think when I'm listening. And so there's something about
random number generating that's so protective of your sleep. I
think it's some of the best device I've ever seen
or heard anywhere.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I need to find a new device. I will try
that while the season was going on. I know this
is ridiculous, but while we were filming the season, you know,
it's stressful and you're doing a lot and a lot
going on whatever. At night, I would plan my outfits.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Oh really, Oh yeah, I would.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Pack, would plan outfits. Does your stress well, it's like
counting sheep, you know. It's like putting your brain to
work on something very specific that you have to concentrate
on so you can't think about other things.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
When I was in general surgery, the thing that relaxed
me and this is who cares? But what relaxed me
is I would see the inside of the abdomen and
visualize being around the liver and dissecting around the highlemb
of the liver with the blood vestation surgeries. Yeah, and
that found that incredibly relaxing.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, because it's something you're good at and something you know,
and it's something predictable to you.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It was also so exciting that you're learning how to
become a surgeon and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, my aunt does Latin Italian conjugations.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
That's a good idea. Yeah, not to change the subject.
Why stop, now do a callback? But what are we
are we doing gifts for?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
We never do gets?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Okay, I've made reservations where Craigs. Oh, wow, Paris.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
We're going to Paris and that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Uh no, not Craig's. Should we do Craigs? Oh my god,
it's Friday night. No, let's do Craig Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Okay, where are we going from?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I'm not telling you you you know, it's a place
that you've never really seen this way the way I'm
going to do it. Yeah, it's a big surprise. Hey,
by the way, did you see that Spencer Pratt? I
think caught up with Karen Bess.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
It's crazy. So I got a lot of I got
a lot of shit for talking the way I spoke
about Spencer Pratt.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
People, what you said about him?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I really didn't say that much. I think I said
that I thought he was smart and that I thought
he's so interested. I mean, I don't remember exactly what
I said, but what I what I meant was, or
what I thought I said, was that obviously what's happening
now is not working. I think, you know, it's like,
what can we all agree on? We can all agree
that what's going on right now doesn't work. And for
(24:08):
me it was like it was exciting to see someone
who actually cared.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, and I love that.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
But you know what really bothered me I got I
got a lot of really nasty blowback dms like how
could you do this?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
This dog?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
That's how dare you? My point is we don't play
that part is he yes or no? Because I don't
want to be his I don't want to have all
the facts about him, you know what I mean, the
facts about who he is and whatever. People can go
look up for themselves who he is and what he
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believes in. That is not my job to disseminate to people.
But you know what bothered me is that the whole
point of being here and talking to people, having a community,
or just having friends meeting people is that we should
be teaching each other and learning from each other. And
and what I wish was is that people said things like, hey,
do you know he's this or that, and that we
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could have conversations about it and maybe we'd all feel
differently one way or the other.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Well, I think I don't know anything about the guy,
and I didn't even know he was sort of a
villain on the Hills.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh and I know people that have worked with him
that say he's terrible.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, when I was on the hill, when when the
Hills were on TV, I was, you know, like a
general surgery resident or something. It was a long time ago, right,
long time. But anyway, all I know is, you know,
it's not so much a vote for him, it's a
vote vote not for her right or for anybody who's
involved in LA politics, because it's a disaster. I mean,
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in my opinion, this, you know, may sound crazy. I
actually been most a lot of the world, I think
Los Angeles when you except for the politics right, But
when you weigh in the weather and culture, we have beauty.
I think it's the coolest city in the world.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, I love La.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I love La. I just think it's so we all.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Want it to be brought back. But then when you
hear things like, oh, he's going to deal with the homeless,
Well he's going to move them to West Hollywood. That's
the fix. And then I will tell you the two
things that really bothers me. Number one, the fact that
Spencer Pratt is signed on to do a reality show
if he gets elected. I find insane. And to me,
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you know how I always make a joke about The Bachelor,
I'm like, spoiler alert. They're not looking for love, They're
there for TikTok followers. If your goal prove to me
that you love La and that you want to be
in that office to fix things. By saying you want
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to do reality show, the moment you get there says
to me, you're in this for you. That's number one.
And then number two, if I don't win Mayor, I
am leaving California me. You know, like, you're such a baby.
If you love this place and you want to fix
this place and you don't win, shouldn't the next step
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be okay, all right, almost got it? How do we
do this next time? How can I make a difference?
How could I help?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Not like, oh sorry, it didn't come easy to me,
So I'm out. I don't like that. That's not the
attitude of someone I want leading us.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, I mean, I just you know, if someone I'm.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So not political, me either, but I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And if someone is telling me they're going to take
my favorite city that's really in the toilets, that's riddled
with climb. I mean, every single Beverly Hills housewife has
been robbed at least once, and most many of them twice.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Forget about housewives. A lot of people we know have
been robbed, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And then all the other But I'm just saying, and
you know, down to LA is pretty rock star, but
you would never go there because it's unsafe.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Listen. But it always comes down to what, in the
most common denominal way, what can we all agree on? Right?
We all agree there is a problem in LA, and
we all agree that we need a change, Right, But
I would.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Really like, well, if Karen Bass wins, there's no change.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Right, that's listen, that's concerning. What about what about contestant
number three?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I think she's in the same sort of you know,
camp as the other She's already a city council, right,
and so it's just an elevated position. I think I
shouldn't say because I don't know exactly. I just know
what they're doing is completely not working. And I just
love this city. I think it's the best anyway. So
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whether he wins or not, it's very clear it's going
to be between him and Karen Bass in the runoff, right,
and most likely I think, just because it's so democratic here,
he won't win.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I will tell you, I don't believe like he's a
reality star, so he can't do that. I mean, Ronald
Reagan was an actor. Yeah, I don't think that has
anything to do with that. I think there's many, many
smart people that are on television, whether they're actors or
reality people, and there's a lot of stupid people. And
the same is true for politicians.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
See, I think i'd be a good mayor. Let me
tell you, why.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Didn't you recently start saying that you could see yourself
as a senator. Did we not have that conversation?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Was your blood alcohol level high? Medium?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It might have been high. But I actually think i'd
be a good LA mayor. I'll tell you why, tell me.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Why I'm going to vote for you. So number one,
write in right in candidate.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
What you want is someone who's been very successful previously
outside of politics. Check, who doesn't need to make any
money anymore. Check Okay. And so they're not doing it
at all for the money.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
So does it pay a lot to be mayor?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
He's terribly let someone like Arnold a wealthy Yeah he
was governor. Yeah he was governor. Right, And you know
other people who've already made it. And you know, I
don't know. I've heard things that Pratt is saying. Others
have gotten this position, and they've gotten rich in these
positions because they do deals they're against. I have no
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idea or not. But you know, I would not even
think about doing anything that would enrich me. The only
thing I would be I would care about is enriching
Los Angeles and cats and cats. I would do anything
I possibly could. The cat shelters, I would, I would
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fund all. That's true. So I think I don't know
how much money he has or how successful he is
or isn't. But I suspect he isn't loaded, right, No,
he said he's not. Yeah, and I don't know. I
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have no idea. But by the way, if he wins,
which he's not going to, okay, but if he wins, uh,
I just hope he's able to achieve the things he
says he's going to achieve.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Clearly, here's my thing. No matter who gets into that office,
it would be nice if there was a come to
Jesus moment from whoever it is that they want to
actually fix the city and not line their pocket.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Well, I think it's I don't know, Karen Bass. I
think it's pretty clear you're not going to fix the
city because what's what's going to be, what's going to change?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
All right, Well, I'm excited to see what you have
planned for the Anniversarah.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, it might be part of my mayoral campaign or
something for next.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Year, so I could be the mayor.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
S mayor s Okay, all right, Well we'll see you
I'm Heathery Brow, I'm doctor Terry Rowe, and we're going
to keep this between us.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
No we're not.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We're not, because I'm going to tell you everything. I
had a very bad day. I wasted a lot of
time and I did not get my mission accomplished at all.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Why what happened?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
So, Like a lot of women out there, I have
dense breast.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Tissue, which I enjoy.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
By the way, I know, thank you one of the.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Reasons I was attracted to you. Now. Oh yeah, Actually,
when I met you, I thought you had small breasts.
I was very disappointed because the first night, wearing some
weird compressive.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I was wearing a dress that was tight and it
made my boobs look flat.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You walked up with that face. I went all right,
And then all of a sudden, you cleared this piece
of furniture and there were no breasts there, and I
went bummer, Oh, what a bomber to fix. I'll give
her breast. That will be our second day.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I actually said to him when we first started dating,
I'm like, I don't know if this is going to
work out, because this body's real.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But then on the second date and I all of
a sudden you show up with like a pair of
d cups, small d's.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
It was a natural D breasts.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Dream girl on steroids.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Had them when I needed them and I started.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm the one took the steroids to become more attractive
in the gym. Do you nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Okay, we're really digressing here anyway, incredible breasts you had
and let me just the children just suck the life.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Out of them.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Totally did deflated by Sorry, you don't seem that upset
about them now.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Actually they weirdly came back in kind of a nice
pleasurable way.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But not big.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
But they're they're not big, but they look good.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Okay, now we're grosso.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
They have a nice shape.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Anyway, I would just like to highlight the fat, my
interest and married breast. Yes, I would just like to
highlight the fact that dense breast tissue has nothing to
do with the appearance, no at all at all. You
can have pancakey nothing breast and still have dense press tissue.
(02:18):
It is about the tissue beings.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, all right, I'm sorry, I apologize. Now I want
to hear what so you did?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So you want to hear what happened because it was
really traumatizing.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah you did because I called you and you didn't answer.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Go ahead, But what do you mean you knew? If
I didn't answer, how would I know?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Because then I told Jamie to tell you. I'm gonna
tell you the story. So I have dense breast tissue.
And when you have dense breast tissue, you have a
mammogram every year, and they also recommend an ultrasound. But
years ago they also used to recommend an MRI with contrast.
So you'd go have an MRI where they put you
in the tube and the whole thing, and they would
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inject you with a a thing called gatallidium. What is gatalidium?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
A contrast agent, just like you know iodine or any
kind of X ray that the that highlights, you know,
it makes that test enhanced.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Right, So basically, when you have this dense tissue, you
can't see as well beginnings of cancer, calcifications, changes in
the tissue. So they want you to do this MR.
But the problem is this gatolidium. It's questionable what this
does to your brain.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Right, it has no obviously metal in it, so that's
why you can use it, right For MRIs.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But there's many people out there that feel like it
is bad for your brain and your body to have
high levels of gatoidium, which, as it turns out.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I have dementia and const dementia.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
What anyway, so I stopped having them done, but I
always get the mammogram and I get the ultrasound, and
my doctor told me to go get this what is
it called?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Oh oh, iodine enhanced mammography, right, my RAM with idine.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, but you know, it's funny. I thought I was
going for an MRI because that's what everyone kept calling it.
Everyone kept saying an MRI with iodine.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, No, I don't think you can do an MRI
with that.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well apparently you can't. So anyway, so I show up
to this place. Usually I go to Hogue Hospital in
Newport Beach, the Breast Center, who it is fabulous and
I love them. Yeah, they're amazing, amazing, but they don't
do this particular.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
They don't iodine thing.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
So although I wont no, I don't think they do so,
but certainly the only there's only one place in Beverly
Hills or LA that did it. So my doctor sent
me to this place. I went there today I get
there fifteen minutes early, and it's kind of like in
this building, it's not it's certainly not fancy, it's not lovely.
It feels like a factory sort of spot. There's a
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lot of people there. I get there, I check in,
I fill out the papers whatever. I'm there early, and
then after about twenty minutes they called me up and
they said, we're running an hour behind. Oh an hour behind, And.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
By the way, I ran two and a half hours
behind in my office today. Do they apologize?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Who cares? But this is an MRI place and imaging center.
How do you run an hour behind? So they told
me that it was because people showed up late. But
I don't understand. If people show up late, why do
they honor the appointment because that just ruins everyone else's appointments.
(05:41):
It's so rude anyway, so rude. I'm on time. They
tell me it's going to be an hour, and I go, okay,
is it a real hour or is it possible the
hour could turn into an hour and a half because
then I'll just reschedule. She goes, no, no, it'll be an hour,
and I said, okay. So I'm sitting there. Eventually they
take me back. I change my top. I put on
the open in the front only gown. I don't even
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tie it. I'm just kind of holding it. I find
a seat. It's packed, there's no I got the last locker.
This place is like very very busy. And after sitting
there for an hour, I asked one of the gals,
you know, can you check where I am? It's like
being at a restaurant, right, like, where am I on
the waiting list?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Now?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Sooner resitting? So she said, oh, there's one person before
you and whatever. And now it's an hour fifteen, it's
an hour twenty. And then finally one of them introduces
me to this woman who claims to be the grandmother
of this iodine technology. And I go, that's cool. Great.
So I'm chatting with her for a minute and she goes,
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this person's done. You will be in next. And I said,
so this is cool, it's safe. And that's when she said,
I basically the grandmother of this iodine technology. It's great,
And I said, okay, cool. So I'm waiting there. They
finally take me into the room and it's not her.
It's a different radiologist, a guy who is very funny
and sweet, but jokey and.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Was telling me, isn't that me? Isn't that me as
a doctor?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So but this is the breast center where people are
a screen for cancer, so let's just start there. So
joky Sweet's good. So he's telling me about all the
risks of iodine and it started to get it scary
to me, and I said, well, you know what, what's
the reaction? Can you go to anaphylaxis? And he goes yes,
(07:33):
And I go, well, how do you know if someone's
allergy to iodine? He goes, you know when you know?
And I said, oh my gosh, I go have you
ever had one? And he goes no, and he knocks
on wood. I mean, I just was all like a
little off putting to me. I was like, okay, and
then I said, you know, I'm married to a doctor.
Doctor's wives get funky things whatever. And I go, why
(07:53):
do you look so amused right now? And he goes, oh,
you just remind me of a friend of mine who
would be reacting the same way. I'm now a little
nervous about the iodine situation. I'm feeling like, I don't know,
it's now here an hour and a half do I
really want to be here this iodine thing. What if
I'm allergic? I'm texting you. You're not answering, Jamie. I
text Terry's assistant and I said, can you ask him
(08:14):
if he thinks I'm okay with iodine? And his answer was,
he thinks you'll probably be okay.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, how would I know? I know, but it wasn't before.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
But isn't it different internally?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I mean I would think, I.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Don't know anyway. That freaked me out a little bit,
but fine. And then this tech takes me into another room.
They weigh you because that has to do with the
iodine thing. And then she was going to do my
IV and I said, oh, this is the vein. Everyone
knows this one vein right here. And she goes, okay, great,
she's got like a light.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
She's looking at you know who you are, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So she's looking for the light. She's got a light.
She looking for the vein. She does this whole setup thing,
and no ultra sound.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You know they use now ultrasound to find the vein.
They do actually robots now do it with an ultras.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I would prefer that. So she does her whole setup
and She goes, do you want me to give you
the play by play or do you want me to
just go for it? I go no, no, no, just go
for it. So I'm sort of like not looking at her.
I don't want to make her nervous. I don't whatever.
And she sticks me twice like sticks it, moves it around,
can't find it, pulls out the needle, puts it back in,
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very painful, and I'm tough, moves it around whatever, can't
find it. And then she goes, well, that vein's not
going to work because when you have contrast and the
vein moves, you know, sometimes people will tell you that
you have like rolling veins.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Or that's when you're trying to put it in, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, or veins that are too small or whatever it is.
It's like okay, And I went, uh huh, and I go, well,
to do here because I would like to avoid getting
stuck four times because.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
She got it in, but what she thought, No, No, she.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Stuck me two once, moved it around, didn't get the vein,
did it again, didn't get the vein, and then was
standing there talking to herself about what to do. And
I said, go in, Oh yeah, totally completely hydrated. And
then she goes, I'm going to take you to the
RN and I go, okay, great, let's do that. And
so she brings me another jacket to put on, and
(10:27):
I go, why you're getting me a jacket? She goes,
it's downstairs and this is like in a huge building.
And I went downstairs and she goes, yeah. I go, well,
how long is that? And theyre already an hour and
thirty five minutes. I go, how long is that going
to take? She goes, I don't know. I to go now,
you know what you're going to be. I don't think
I feel comfortable about this. Yeah, And so I so
I said, I'm just gonna go, and goes okay, yep,
(10:50):
and I left, and I started crying all the way up. Yeah,
because I'm not telling the story that well, to be
honest with you, but I just want to tell you
I am very comfortable in medical environments. Being married to
Terry and being with him for almost thirty years, I
am a comfortable I'm very comfortable in hospital. I'm comfortable
with needles. I don't get squeamish, I don't nothing. And
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I didn't even mind waiting. I got emails done. I
had things like. I wasn't hassled by any of that,
but I got to tell you, there was something about
there was like something about the way I was handled
and spoken to and treated was just it felt so
not taken care.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Of, by the way.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Except the girl that walked me out, who his name
is Lizabeth, was lovely, okay, she was so sweet. She
saw me walking out, she went, are you okay? And
I almost started crying and I said, not really, I
that one. I am going to go back to Hogue
and I'm not doing Ayadine, Okay, that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Did you know this Friday are twenty sixth year wedding anniversary.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's not twenty six exactly, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Twenty five, No, twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
What we were married in two thousand, we weren't, well, we
married ninety nine. You're kidding me, Wow, So maybe we
should party like is nineteen, so that would be twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Wow, twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It's amazing, isn't it. It's been so good. Care for
what you say right now, Terry.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I didn't even say that. I was waiting for the joke.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
No, no joke, no joke. Yeah, no, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Had a lot of fun lately.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yes, except you know what's interesting about life? Life? You know,
this whole thing that I try to lean into, you know,
when things are really bad and this this two shall pass,
and when things are really good, I naturally think this
is great. Don't enjoy it too much because this two
shell passed, Oh you should joy it fully. Well, I
do enjoy it, but don't expect it to be this
way forever. This is a this these two shell past
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time in my life right now.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It's a little bit of a rough patch. Yes, interesting
and terrible all at the same time. Nothing you know,
life ending or anything like that. But why do things
that happen stress? That giant stress? Things come in threes?
I really believe they do you do? I had three?
I have three?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
All right, Well we'll have to go over those later.
And we can't really talk about what we're talking about. Sorry,
it's so cryptic. Nothing life ending or life changing, but
just something that, like, you go, why did that have
to happen?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah? Yeah, just one of those.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Things that happens in life.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, today was like the perfect like storm Monday. Today
was a real Monday. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
See, and maybe That's why I needed to leave that appointment.
I knew something.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Maybe maybe that was going to be three today, Like.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Maybe I would have been allergic to iodine yeah and
got into anaphylaxis.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yep, maybe that would have been the fourth thing. Yeah,
so the wait. We've been on a lot of trips
recently which have been really nice, and very good friend
of ours got married.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That was you know who got married, our buddy Robert
Saint John who built two of our homes.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, and was responsible with you.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
He was on Real Housewives Borge County many.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Times, anytimes, Yeah, and was responsible a lot obviously along
with you for that big sale we had, Yes, Sir
of life altering.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Robert and I had a lot of fun together. He
married a fantastic girl, a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Wedding, beautiful wedding cabo.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
At the wait, there was a blue moon, yeah, and
there was rainbows everywhere. Actually, the picture I posted today
for Pride, yeah, is a picture of you and I
from the wedding with this gorgeous rainbow. I've never seen
such a full, vibrant, incredible, beautiful rainbow to have that
on their wedding day. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And it's funny because you know, if I were to
make a list of currently my favorite things, what do
you think would be the top of this right now?
My favorite things traveling starlink?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Oh oh yeah, by starling starlink. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
If you have not enjoyed Wi Fi on a plane,
like I haven't in the past because it's terrible, wait
until you experience starlink. And I think some American flights
have it all. JSX has it now. It's the only
full fleet starlink flight now. It is the most amazing
thing starlink on a plane is you can FaceTime someone
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and you can see pock marks in their face, you
can see their complex it's the most clear video. It's
like ultra high def and you can stream Apple and
Netflix and it's like.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
So the problem that airlines are having with starlink because
I think, is it American that just put in starlink
some so they're working on it. It's expensive, so they're
getting they're getting this starlink in all the commercial airplanes.
But the big debate is people would be able to
talk on the phone on the plane. So can you
(16:11):
imagine sitting on a plane across the country and someone
is talking the entire time I'm going to tell you
we were insane kill. We were in Sane Bart and
I was sitting on the beach Terry. I was waiting
for Terry. He was still at the gym, and I
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was sitting on the beach. And there was a woman.
I kid you not in I took a video of her.
I won't post it because I don't want to do
that to her. But she was in the water, literally
in the water up to her chest, on her phone,
speaking at the top of her lungs. Oh my god,
the water is so amazing. Whoever she was talking to
(16:53):
for thirty minutes, okay, screaming in the water, like, why
aren't you here enjoying where we are? Get off the phone.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Okay, it was particularly your take because there's no ambient
sound dragging her out.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well, there's the ocean.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
But when you're on the ocean, Saint Barts is like
a swimming pool. But when you're on a plane, oh
here we go, it's very loud. Put your headphones on
and you go on starlink. You can actually have an
amazing conversation with someone on FaceTime.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Uh huh, Terry is that guy? I don't know if
you saw my Instagram story. But we went on jetsweet X. Yes,
we went on jetsweet X to go to Coppo for
this wedding, and.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Max calls me.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
You called Max, We know you were talking to Rob.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Oh Max first, then Rob multi.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
So we are sitting on this plane and there's the
ambient aircraft noise. I have my AirPods in with the
noise cancelation, and this one next to me across the aisle,
but there is speaking like he's in a private location
holding his phone, having full on FaceTime conversations, laughing, carrying on.
(18:17):
And I was like, oh my god, you're that guy.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Uh I was that guy?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
You know you are that guy.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I'm not that guy.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Pal, you are that guy.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I'm not that guy.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You are. Terry used to do that at restaurants, he
would anytime. Oh yes, anytime we're at a restaurant. One
of the kids called. He put him on FaceTime to
talk to that show. You used to show them the restaurant.
Oh yes, it was a point of contingent with me.
You stopped doing that. I appreciate that. Now you're that
plane guy.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Anyway, if you get the chance to try starlink on
the plane, I will take a terrible plane with starlink
over a first class without starlink.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So you're willing to sit and coach. No, you're willing
to sit in coach with starlink versus first class without. No, no, no,
you're you were getting bougie. You're you're saying, but.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
We know I'm just saying. I'm talking about the plane, Okay.
Like I'll go to a restaurant with less tasty food
if it's a beautiful restaurant, I have a good table, yeah,
versus a restaurant with better food and a crummy table
or an ugly restaurant.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Although I have to say I do sort of like
the notion of I'm on a plane, meaning service might
be spotty. So if I don't feel like answering someone,
I don't have to.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
No, I just I love starlink.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, you're very connected to your phone.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I am more of a screen ager than any screen
ager on the planet.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I you're the worst out of our family.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
For I am the worst. But if you're a guy
out there and you have an I'm prostatic prosthetic hyperge fee,
you get um in peelot in the night, get go
pee and say to yourself three nine, just say random,
no number patterns. Yeah, because you never will think about
anything stressful before you go back to bed. It is
so effective.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Say this again slower and honestly this is for women
also because especially if you're perimenopausal or menopausal, we get
up all night too. Yeah, and then you start, you know,
like reevaluating your life choices and thinking about everything stressful
and what someone said to you and what you have
to do this week, what you have to do tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah. So here's the thing. If you're one of those
people who if you wake up in the middle of
the night, you start to have one of those thoughts
and it causes anxiety. Now you're awake because you can't sleep.
The way to do this is the following. Wake up
before you have any thoughts. Go okay, okay, I'm gonna
turn over and I'm just going to start generating random
(20:47):
sets of numbers in my brain. Don't do addition or
any mathematics. Just go three eleven, fourteen, twenty two. And
the act of doing that, you absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
It breaks your brain pack I can't.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Think of anything. It's like when I'm doing selling on
a shopping channel, or let's say in the old days
when you did CNN and they put that thing in
your ear. Although I'm not a newsperson, but you know,
I would be an expert on a news show and
they put that what is that thing called I be
in your ear if they talk to me while I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Oh yeah, you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I'm done. I can't say the next sentence. I just
can't think when I'm listening. And so there's something about
random number generating that's so protective of your sleep. I
think it's some of the best device I've ever seen
or heard anywhere.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I need to find a new device. I will try
that while the season was going on. I know this
is ridiculous, but while we were filming the season, you know,
it's stressful and you're doing a lot and a lot
going on whatever. At night, I would plan my outfits.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Oh really, Oh yeah, I would.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Pack, would plan outfits. Does your stress well, it's like
counting sheep, you know. It's like putting your brain to
work on something very specific that you have to concentrate
on so you can't think about other things.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
When I was in general surgery, the thing that relaxed
me and this is who cares? But what relaxed me
is I would see the inside of the abdomen and
visualize being around the liver and dissecting around the highlemb
of the liver with the blood vestation surgeries. Yeah, and
that found that incredibly relaxing.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, because it's something you're good at and something you know,
and it's something predictable to you.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It was also so exciting that you're learning how to
become a surgeon and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, my aunt does Latin Italian conjugations.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
That's a good idea. Yeah, not to change the subject.
Why stop, now do a callback? But what are we
are we doing gifts for?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
We never do gets?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Okay, I've made reservations where Craigs. Oh, wow, Paris.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
We're going to Paris and that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Uh no, not Craig's. Should we do Craigs? Oh my god,
it's Friday night. No, let's do Craig Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Okay, where are we going from?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I'm not telling you you you know, it's a place
that you've never really seen this way the way I'm
going to do it. Yeah, it's a big surprise. Hey,
by the way, did you see that Spencer Pratt? I
think caught up with Karen Bess.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
It's crazy. So I got a lot of I got
a lot of shit for talking the way I spoke
about Spencer Pratt.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
People, what you said about him?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I really didn't say that much. I think I said
that I thought he was smart and that I thought
he's so interested. I mean, I don't remember exactly what
I said, but what I what I meant was, or
what I thought I said, was that obviously what's happening
now is not working. I think, you know, it's like,
what can we all agree on? We can all agree
that what's going on right now doesn't work. And for
(24:08):
me it was like it was exciting to see someone
who actually cared.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, and I love that.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
But you know what really bothered me I got I
got a lot of really nasty blowback dms like how
could you do this?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
This dog?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
That's how dare you? My point is we don't play
that part is he yes or no? Because I don't
want to be his I don't want to have all
the facts about him, you know what I mean, the
facts about who he is and whatever. People can go
look up for themselves who he is and what he
(24:44):
believes in. That is not my job to disseminate to people.
But you know what bothered me is that the whole
point of being here and talking to people, having a community,
or just having friends meeting people is that we should
be teaching each other and learning from each other. And
and what I wish was is that people said things like, hey,
do you know he's this or that, and that we
(25:07):
could have conversations about it and maybe we'd all feel
differently one way or the other.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Well, I think I don't know anything about the guy,
and I didn't even know he was sort of a
villain on the Hills.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh and I know people that have worked with him
that say he's terrible.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, when I was on the hill, when when the
Hills were on TV, I was, you know, like a
general surgery resident or something. It was a long time ago, right,
long time. But anyway, all I know is, you know,
it's not so much a vote for him, it's a
vote vote not for her right or for anybody who's
involved in LA politics, because it's a disaster. I mean,
(25:44):
in my opinion, this, you know, may sound crazy. I
actually been most a lot of the world, I think
Los Angeles when you except for the politics right, But
when you weigh in the weather and culture, we have beauty.
I think it's the coolest city in the world.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, I love La.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I love La. I just think it's so we all.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Want it to be brought back. But then when you
hear things like, oh, he's going to deal with the homeless,
Well he's going to move them to West Hollywood. That's
the fix. And then I will tell you the two
things that really bothers me. Number one, the fact that
Spencer Pratt is signed on to do a reality show
if he gets elected. I find insane. And to me,
(26:30):
you know how I always make a joke about The Bachelor,
I'm like, spoiler alert. They're not looking for love, They're
there for TikTok followers. If your goal prove to me
that you love La and that you want to be
in that office to fix things. By saying you want
(26:51):
to do reality show, the moment you get there says
to me, you're in this for you. That's number one.
And then number two, if I don't win Mayor, I
am leaving California me. You know, like, you're such a baby.
If you love this place and you want to fix
this place and you don't win, shouldn't the next step
(27:12):
be okay, all right, almost got it? How do we
do this next time? How can I make a difference?
How could I help?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Not like, oh sorry, it didn't come easy to me,
So I'm out. I don't like that. That's not the
attitude of someone I want leading us.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, I mean, I just you know, if someone I'm.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So not political, me either, but I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And if someone is telling me they're going to take
my favorite city that's really in the toilets, that's riddled
with climb. I mean, every single Beverly Hills housewife has
been robbed at least once, and most many of them twice.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Forget about housewives. A lot of people we know have
been robbed, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And then all the other But I'm just saying, and
you know, down to LA is pretty rock star, but
you would never go there because it's unsafe.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Listen. But it always comes down to what, in the
most common denominal way, what can we all agree on? Right?
We all agree there is a problem in LA, and
we all agree that we need a change, Right, But
I would.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Really like, well, if Karen Bass wins, there's no change.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Right, that's listen, that's concerning. What about what about contestant
number three?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I think she's in the same sort of you know,
camp as the other She's already a city council, right,
and so it's just an elevated position. I think I
shouldn't say because I don't know exactly. I just know
what they're doing is completely not working. And I just
love this city. I think it's the best anyway. So
(28:49):
whether he wins or not, it's very clear it's going
to be between him and Karen Bass in the runoff, right,
and most likely I think, just because it's so democratic here,
he won't win.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I will tell you, I don't believe like he's a
reality star, so he can't do that. I mean, Ronald
Reagan was an actor. Yeah, I don't think that has
anything to do with that. I think there's many, many
smart people that are on television, whether they're actors or
reality people, and there's a lot of stupid people. And
the same is true for politicians.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
See, I think i'd be a good mayor. Let me
tell you, why.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Didn't you recently start saying that you could see yourself
as a senator. Did we not have that conversation?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Was your blood alcohol level high? Medium?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It might have been high. But I actually think i'd
be a good LA mayor. I'll tell you why, tell me.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Why I'm going to vote for you. So number one,
write in right in candidate.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
What you want is someone who's been very successful previously
outside of politics. Check, who doesn't need to make any
money anymore. Check Okay. And so they're not doing it
at all for the money.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
So does it pay a lot to be mayor?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
He's terribly let someone like Arnold a wealthy Yeah he
was governor. Yeah he was governor. Right, And you know
other people who've already made it. And you know, I
don't know. I've heard things that Pratt is saying. Others
have gotten this position, and they've gotten rich in these
positions because they do deals they're against. I have no
(30:20):
idea or not. But you know, I would not even
think about doing anything that would enrich me. The only
thing I would be I would care about is enriching
Los Angeles and cats and cats. I would do anything
I possibly could. The cat shelters, I would, I would
(30:41):
fund all. That's true. So I think I don't know
how much money he has or how successful he is
or isn't. But I suspect he isn't loaded, right, No,
he said he's not. Yeah, and I don't know. I
(31:02):
have no idea. But by the way, if he wins,
which he's not going to, okay, but if he wins, uh,
I just hope he's able to achieve the things he
says he's going to achieve.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Clearly, here's my thing. No matter who gets into that office,
it would be nice if there was a come to
Jesus moment from whoever it is that they want to
actually fix the city and not line their pocket.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Well, I think it's I don't know, Karen Bass. I
think it's pretty clear you're not going to fix the
city because what's what's going to be, what's going to change?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
All right, Well, I'm excited to see what you have
planned for the Anniversarah.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, it might be part of my mayoral campaign or
something for next.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Year, so I could be the mayor.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
S mayor s Okay, all right, Well we'll see you
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