A Year of Yes Ma'am (and No Ma'am Pam)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Black Fat Fem Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hey fam Jojo here on behalf of the BFF Black
Fat Fem Podcast. We're excited to present to you the
best of twenty twenty five. Yes ma'am and no ma'am.
Pam's crafted by incredible editor Chris Rogers. Chris, we love
you big, love you deep. Always. Shout out to our
team at iHeartMedia for keeping us down. Always, shout out
to producer Joey pat we love you so much. And

(00:28):
shout out to our listeners who walk with us every
year over the year. Thank you have so much love
and light and joy and a little bit of sasas
as well too. We are wishing y'all the best start
of the new year. Happy New Year to y'all and
your loved ones. May twenty twenty six enter with prosperity,
maybe for tutors, for you, maybe fil with excitement and love, enjoy,

(00:48):
Maybe y'all thrive.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
We'll see y'all next year.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
By part of it is also like people's refusal to
expand their own.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Good Do you hear that?

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Someone else ide screaming.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, let me check.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Can you, yeah to check, okay, bear back. Yeah, I'm like,
it is not the end of the year unless some
ship is happening. What is going on?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I hate to say it. I just closed my window.
I'm so sorry, but love it like I can't help
you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
It got nothing to do with me.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
It's not my business.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Business.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
It's coming from the back and I live in the front.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
So you don't be doing none of that.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
You said.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Episode. Sorry, if you see something, say something. I heard
something and I don't want anything.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
It's not here something. Literally, I want to name this episode.
It's not I know this. None of this is gonna
make it in the cut, but I definitely want to
name this episode. Here's see something, say something, Chris, if.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
You just cut like cut. This was like a blooper
real for me because I went out and room.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
I said, do you hear that? She said no, I said.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Okay and shut the window. Well, ain't got nothing to
do with me. Okay, good. So with that being said,
we can't move on. I don't even remember what that
ship I think. I mean, it was just like.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
First I was like, is was that me that?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I just know it was something outside. I was like, anyways,
as I.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Was well, I was trying to say, I just I
hate people.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
The one and only Jessica Rolls.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
My no, ma'am, is just like a general concept.

Speaker 7 (02:51):
I'm really tired of net thirty sixty ninety. I'm just
tired of major corporations that have money sitting in the
bank is taking months to pay. I'm tired of begging
people to fulfill in voices.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I need you to get out of my head, ma'am.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
To that, because it just the check should clear. The
check should have been clear.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
It should honestly be happy.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I'll make you do a day up payment, rend your services.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Okay, payment for.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
Services, PayPal transfers.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Instantly, you know what I mean. Okay, demo thing up
right now, I have a QR code. I'm saying nothing
scan his QR code zas this says well too, and
it's f ship. Ain't sure you got this? Yes, yes,

(03:51):
well yes we have our good friend Tyreek told you
who is here.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
My no, ma'am.

Speaker 8 (04:00):
Hmmm, maybe I'll just aim at the government or something.
You know, you can't fund medicaid and food stamps, which
I building a new wing of the East wing of
the White House and building ballrooms and all this other stuff.
So you know, maybe some financial literacy and some empathy
and some compassion could make this country a better place.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yea, so it's really much giving. I hated here, Yes,
the Babba Duke. So did you want to tell the
Laura about why the Bobba Duke is okay queer?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Because at first I was like why and pretty sure
Joey Busser Soul.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Informed us that.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Let apparently, when when the movie came out, Netflix had
put it under like LGQ.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Movies, my acid it was like a glitch of.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
The matrix and they're like, oh my, it was so silly.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, so that is like, so that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
And then people were like, no, I'm gonna run with it.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
But then John Paul Bremmer, we're in, uh, you know,
a a writer.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I don't know what they were what they were for,
but they wrote a story about that the Barba terrorizing
Australian family in the Suburbs was an.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Act of queer defiance.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
And I had no choice but to agree like people
like I had and like like and and I.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Know the queers have loved the Babba Duke, so like
I'm here for it.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, I agree, I agree, I agree to and that's
was it.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
The Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Now, let me first say this, if you saw the
new movies, It's one was fantastic, It too was interesting,
and it too open with a game ashcancyne and to
this day did not love and thought that was the
most probably that teque thing I've ever seen in my life.
Like I was like, this is horrible, but I still
was like, there's this clown is like where I.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Come for short, like and I understand why it happened
because it was in the book. So I think they
were trying to say with Stephen King's story about the
issue of what queer people are dealing with around their identity,
which I get. I agree, I agree one hundred years
it was terrible, but I also understand why it was there.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Like I'm fine with fress material, but it was just
so graphic.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
That was Butcher, tell this about this whole ass game happened,
you know, the the boyfriend. But I think I think
the clown is a queer icon. She is what gay
isn't a clown first of all, but just out here

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just like humming down people like like this clown is
pure camp And I'm like yeah, and she.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Also let's also talk about her fashions though, because as
much as she is scary and I'm not here for
her hair is laid, honey, it was quofted. She came
out of that cave with a quofted look. She said,
oh you go get the damn And then she had
that big ass like, uh, what do you call that?

Speaker 9 (07:04):
That?

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Like the fluffy ruffled thing around her neck. This is
a fashion girl, faces painted.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
It's taking me down.

Speaker 10 (07:15):
You were.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yes, I said, the best Victoria Era, they got the bod,
they got the best.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Human human uh human hear they said.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Let me call my girl down the street and say, yo,
what what what's tea on this?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yes, it is a fashion girl and you know you
know she voes down? Yes, oh god, yes what house
is she in? House of? What? The house of balloons?

Speaker 9 (07:54):
Here?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Okay, now my noman Pam, so I can wrap this
shit up. Niggas at concerts who think they are the show,
people who come late, baby like people do this so
people don't. It's just not concerts that bug me. It's
movies too. You know what time the concert starts, you

(08:20):
know what time the movie starts? Now, if it says
seven point thirty. You need to be in your seat
by seven twenty five. Okay, please, like get your drinks,
get your power, like I understand during the show. Oh
I gotta go to the bathroom. Okay, girl, I'll step out.
I usually buy, I'll see, I'll step out for you

(08:41):
to move to go. Go hey, go ahead, do what
you're gonna do. But the fact that you are coming
to the show, I kid you not Jordan, this actually happened.
We like Money Long went on. I think it's seven thirty.
Kelly came on at about eight thirty five. These girls
come stumbling in at like nine ten talking about h

(09:02):
I'm saying, siren, they.

Speaker 11 (09:03):
Are you in my seat?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Girl? Where were you two hours ago? You wouldn't have
this problem. You wouldn't be ruining my experience if you
were here on time like I was. And I know
LA has traffic, So it's just it's just it's one
of those things that really gets under my skin. Like
I hate people who who think because they're like I

(09:28):
don't know if they think they're special. I don't know
if they think they're the celebrity. Like get to your
seat on time, and also don't try to out sing
the singer, like as a person who can sing. When
I go to concerts, I still mind how much I
sing because I'm like, I know, these people didn't come
here to pay to hear me sing. They came to

(09:49):
hear Brandy and Monica sing, So don't try to out
sing them. That's that's that's all I have. And then
also again, pay the invoices, niggas whoever, Oh, if you
owe people, pay him. Just pay the boys. What are
your yes, ma'am's and no man's for this week?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Mine's is a twofold for the same thing.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
So I stumbled.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Upon a not stumbled.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I stumbled upon a essentially like a mac and cheese
off on Threads, So basically, so someone has Someone had
posted the mac and cheese and was like, this is
the way I do.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
It, and then and then Black Threads.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Was like, girl, And then I posted their mac and cheese,
and you know, everyone's like, we all have good recipes,
but also yours is dust compared to mine.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well, the original one was giving corn pudding.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I said, when I have ateiot, sure I was listening
corn pudding.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
But then but then people then people were like, that's
how it should sound or should.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Look right and so so.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
So what one of the it was Christian oside, but
you sound real real like juicy and so so I
was like, oh, you know, it's good when it look christy,
but it sounds but it sounds like we coochie.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
I said, that is that is nasty.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
To say, and so everyone sold yes yes about them,
because I was like, y'all are taking me down, like
I am fried with these comments, because y'all are why
with this? Also no mamm because like y'all are like
the o g one was not girl that look like goop.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
They're like you know.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
And then people and people people were like, people are
like not the boneless matt Man. I said, not boneless
baby was giving absolutely not. I realized in hindsight. I
reposted it on on the on the BFF page. I
was like, listen, I don't care how it looks or sounds,

(11:52):
but how do it taste?

Speaker 3 (11:54):
The question?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I don't care if it's too pronchy or too what
I want to know. Yes, you're asking the wrong questions. In
so hopefully and I volunteers a taste testers.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
If you want taste, sure, come on down, come on down.
If people want to send us plates for this upcoming year.
I mean for this upcoming holiday next week. I went
around happy and take off your hands. I will. I'm
good happily, especially if it's made by anybody like Jade,

(12:31):
like Jade of all jas that that woman is a
cooking ass. I want like she cooks the house down boots.
And so if you, if you believe you are a
good cook, please email us and tell me where to
pick up a plate, because I will happily drive my
black ass down to grab one. Welcome to the show,
Christian A. Smith. No, ma'am, is.

Speaker 12 (12:54):
The government shut down and these health subsidies. I don't
think people realize how impactful these health subsidies are and
how much people's premiums are about to increase next year
if they run out. Say it so when people say like,
or when they imply, I'm not worried about that stuff

(13:16):
until it comes to my front door, it's already at
your front door.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
It is.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
It's there, it's sitting in your living room.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Even for people who.

Speaker 12 (13:25):
Say, well, I don't I don't have insurance, Yeah, like
the system is so shitty you don't even want to
get insurance.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Like you know, I really I really hate that.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I really hate that.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
So yeah, that's that's where I am.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
When you know, man, Pam, it's just to this year,
I got I got a bone to pick with you,
Like I don't know what's the reason why you're turk
out our loved ones?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Like who hurt you?

Speaker 9 (13:51):
Like you?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Like you start off okay, It's like it's like start
off saying like listen, an other world's up. So I'm
gonna let you I have. I'm gonna let you.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Have most of the year to yourselves. And in this
past month she was like, actually, I'm going a little restless,
so I'm just gonna good damn day.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Like, yes, baby, I saw somebody say I need to
have a talk with the grim Reaper because baby, you
getting old and you keep missing.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
One for one or two people. Yeah, you keep saying no,
not that today. You keep getting the wrong D. That's
what somebody else said.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
We need.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
We didn't say the angeloe in a l D the
wrong D from us?

Speaker 3 (14:48):
What about.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
That? Let me put on my car because I'm going
to just giving child. Would I would I need to
speak to the manager. Why all of these black people
I love keep being taken from us? Yes? This week,

(15:13):
I definitely have. You know, I'm looking at the clock
and I go, we got a little bit of time.
So I'm gonna go ahead and say what I need
to say. So this stuff we don't, we don't, we don't.
Some of us have we got We got work, girl,
we got work. I know. I'm like, yeah, we gotta work.
I know, but I'm gonna try to make it quick.

(15:33):
But I do got some things to say. So I'm
gonna say this week first, my yes, ma'am. I want
to say that I am thankful to the black women
who are waking up or have been staying in the lane,
undersplaining how problematic this new Taylor Swift album is, specifically

(15:53):
the ways that white women artists like Miss Taylor Swift
are coddled and able to sing about teenage shit at
a big age. I mean basically the content that, or
at least what I've been reading, what I've been seeing
is this woman is thirty five and she's singing songs
like she's sixteen. And you know, if a black artist,

(16:14):
like specifically a black artist, you know, per se, even Beyonce, right,
if Beyonce was to do this, everyone would have something
to say about it, right, you're grown? Why are you
singing so this idea that you know I will say,
and people know this. I've been very vocal about I
hate Taylor Swift. I don't like her. I don't think
anything about her is original. I think that there's a

(16:36):
lot of I have a lot of thoughts about why
I don't like Taylor Swift. And it doesn't just come
from I don't like her music. I think Taylor Swift
is what the problem like when we look at America
as a whole, Taylor Swift is a very great representation
of what I hate about America, and that is why
I don't like Taylor Swift. And so anyway, I appreciate

(16:57):
that there have been black women who've been using their
platform arms to also say no, it's not just about that.
It's this, this, this, this, and this that we need
to be looking at. And I even get you know,
I got in trouble for posting. I got trouble, but
I had people coming after me. I had put the
a meme of her playing a banjo U on the

(17:17):
side of the film centers the picking the we've been
robbing and clean we picked poor Robbin Clee. I put
those two together and I said, this is exactly what
it is, and people were like, oh, you're being racist.
That's not That was not my intent. My intent was
to say, we have to be cautious when we're when

(17:39):
when we How do I say this? It's just I
think there's a there's something specific to talk about in
this moment about why white people love this white woman
so much and how in this new album. I have
not listened to any of her songs. I will not
be listening to any of her songs. But she's taking
shots at Meg thee Stallion. She's taken shots at this

(18:01):
man's black ex black girlfriend. They're all of these things
that Taylor does specifically to black people and to black artists.
You know, even this whole old Kanye took my moment
from me like this, She's vilified this black man for years.

Speaker 9 (18:18):
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
It's that that I have so many problems with, and
I'm just so happy that people are starting to come
around and see it. Please give it up for DeAndre Upshaw.
How you doing, Sis, It's good to see you, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 13 (18:33):
I guess in general, it's you know, there's a lot
of bad things going on, but we've got breath in
our bodies. The sun is shining, and we can smile,
and so that is my yes, ma'am. We got food
in the refrigerator, and we got a little bit of
money in the bank. I can supersize it sometimes when
I feel like it, and that's what likes about.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
I know, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Actually I would like.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
To read someone very specifically, and she knows she is.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Okay, all right, I can see an email.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
I'm gonna drag this one. I'm not gonna say her name.
I received an email.

Speaker 13 (19:08):
From a woman and she said, to Hi, I manage
people at comic conventions and I would like to reach
out to you about an opportunity.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
I said to myself, I don't know what I would
do at a comic con convention, but I'm not I'm
very much.

Speaker 13 (19:23):
If you send me an email and you want to
work with me, I'm gonna I'm gonna hear you out.
I'm gonna see what it is you have to offer,
even if I think that it's not the right fit.
Let's just have a conversation and see. So after we
rescheduled a meeting like twice because she ain't show up
and she missed the first one. So I was like, okay,
that's first red flag, but I'm gonna be nice and
just hear what this person has to say. I call

(19:44):
her on my lunch break and I'm sitting in my
car eating a cauliflower pizza because that's my life, and
so I called it someone. I'm like, a, Hi, I
just want to, you know, follow up with you about
this opportunity. And she said, well, first, I just.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Need to clear something up. Were you or were you
not in Sister Act to What? And I said, ma'am,
what are you talking about?

Speaker 13 (20:05):
And so I had posted a month and a half ago,
I had posted I had posted a clip from Sister
Act Too.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
This woman somehow extrapolated from this that I was in
the film Sister Act Too and so and so I
was like what and she was.

Speaker 13 (20:24):
Like, yeah, well, I'm just trying to get to the
bottom of it because i feel misled.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I was like, how do you feel misled?

Speaker 10 (20:29):
You?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
You reached out to me.

Speaker 13 (20:37):
Nothing about anything that I have in my life or
on my social I even went back to look at
the post post because I posted the end of Sister
Act two where they're singing, Ain't no Mountain high enough?
And I was like, did I say in the post, Wow,
I love filming this with Whoopy Gold twenty years ago?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I did it.

Speaker 13 (20:56):
This woman had just somehow gotten in my mind that
I was a sister act too, and I was upset.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
I hung up on her at the.

Speaker 13 (21:02):
End of the call because she was like, well, I'm
glad that we got a chance to straighten this out.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
I was like, there's nothing to straighten out, ma'am. You
didn't do your research.

Speaker 13 (21:10):
You wasted all of our time, like multiple times anyway,
so you're in my no, ma'am, you know who you are.
Get it together, really get it together, because you wasted
a lot of my time and innergy I can't today.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Whatever were you.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
You were?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Did she think? Who think you were? I think she
thought I was the happy Maybe I don't know. I
just don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
There's nothing on my profile, like my bio doesn't say.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I just changed the title of this episode from bringing
Back to Topia? Were the title of this least? Because
it has to be.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Stupid? Were you you could have you literally could have
gone on r m B. The basic amount of research stupid,
that's stupid. And she was a white lady, so maybe
she just maybe she thinks all of us are the

(22:26):
same person. Maybe we are. I'm just like, ma'am, I
was like, I love it, we have to.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
I was near the air as if it was her
call the first like like, well, I'm glad, Like I'm
glad we wrapped this up.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Girl, I called you for.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
The original subject matter.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
What do you mean?

Speaker 14 (22:53):
What?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
People be bold?

Speaker 4 (22:55):
They ever ever since? We weren't raptured.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
I love, I love like I love, I love what
I tell people like I'll call them.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
And then at the end they called, They're like, well,
thanks for picking up, and I'm like I called you, girl.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
You didn't don't you didn't.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
No, I called the meeting, not you relaxed. Don't think
it's somebody else right now, Yes, I called the meeting
right right? Anyways, okay, my yes, Ma'am's like yes, ma'am, pam.
I don't know if y'all watch these videos, but there's
this woman who we rate in party dishes. She just
rate yes, yes, but she's like ten tries put it
in your honor by like yeah, and she's like a

(23:34):
six seconds to the chest to you.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
And your warrior and dog.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Who was taking Huber to the court like I have
a question, but I live whoever she is.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I live where you.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
She makes me laugh. Also, some of the dies people
make are hilarious.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I'm like, what is this dish t just I love
like like like I love when she's ready to plant
trees and someone's on her. I just I live where
you are, girl, I love you so much?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Can we also? Can we also? Speaking of black TikTokers
that we love, I also want to shout out. I
don't know the name of the girl, but there's this
one TikToker slash creator who's constantly throwing shade at Jlo.
She any opportunity that she gets a chance to take
a dig at j Loo, she does, and I just
want to celebrate her because she's doing God's work. But yes,

(24:26):
this that woman and the other TikToker, Yes, yes, big
big yes to them.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
I'm re mean my.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Nom'am pam okay so is also to what's happening with
TikTok because like, like the arguments needs to get their
hands on it, just to pam to that, like, let
TikTok just be itself.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Why do you have to why do you have to
make that? Like and like I I understand that they're
trying to frame it as like a security risk.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Maybe I don't feel more secure with you doing it,
don't feel I don't feel more secure with the American
government touching TikTok, like.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
I actually felt better about it before, Like.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Like it's like, I'm just I'm tired. I'm so tired
of like seeing trials or sessions where like everyone's telling
you we like we don't want this, and the government's like.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Heard anyway, So like why am I ask me?

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Girl?

Speaker 3 (25:24):
It makes no sense just to tell me?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Know, Like why am I ask my opinions?

Speaker 3 (25:29):
I just I just I hate it here. I hate
it here you.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Are hearing tim CHATTERANSU in your ear. Hmmm, yes, ma'am.
Is just something I want to just the bigger, biggest you.
It could be something you've done, It can be something
you saw on the news, you know. I just okay, well, yeah,
I just want to. I want to, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 15 (25:48):
My daughter, okay, because this is her second year of
school ever, and she had her little photo shoot day,
the like picture day, and I just appreciate how much
of a just an individual she's become. Because it was
picture day and you know, she's a girl. So it's like,
I feel like all the little girls. We pulled up,
all little girls were in their little sparkly dresses and stuff.

(26:10):
But my daughter, I was like, what do you want
to wear for a picture day? And she was like,
I want to wear that blue hoodie, right because she's
wearing this blue hoodie and yeah, so we put in
the blue hoodie when she loved And then I showed
up to school and you know, all the little other
girls and little frilly dresses and stuff, and she and
I in my head, I thought, is she gonna be like, oh,
I wish I would have warn to dressed, but she
was like, nah, no, this is me right here. And

(26:30):
I talked to the teacher afterwards and I was like,
you know, how funny was it? I pulled up and
Beda said she wants to stick with this blue hoodie
and that's what she wanted, and all the other little
girls had little glittery dresses on, and the teacher was like,
you know what, that's Veda though. She was like that
she just marches to the beat of her own drum.
And I was like, and it was not I knew,
you know, but you you gassed up your own kids.

(26:51):
So like in my head, I'm like, yeah, my daughter
is so unique, she's dope, right, But it was cool
to hear the teacher acknowledge that and see that and
like kind of reaffirm how I felt. And I was like, yeah, yes,
I'm raising a little little, unique, strong individual, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
So yeah, I love that. And then if we're gonna know,
ma'am my wife, oh you sound like me. That's probably
why I was late today. You know.

Speaker 16 (27:19):
I just don't like the way she loads the dishwasher.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think she get to use yours. I don't get
to even use mine. Is your white Asian? My husband
well that part. My husband is white, and he believes
that dishwashers are not as clean, so he chooses, he says,
we should not use it. Oh yeah, so we're not.
Yeah we don't. We don't use our dishwashers. But it's
visiting white invention, Like shouldn't you the one?

Speaker 17 (27:40):
Yeah, to be like I thought, white people love the
dish washer, love pink, love it, love it, love it.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
So yeah, so she doesn't she doesn't love it? What
what what specifically does she do? We just we we
really we disagree on on the way to do things.

Speaker 16 (28:00):
It'll just be little things.

Speaker 15 (28:01):
And you know, I just wish she would listen to
me because I'm always I clean up the kitchen anyway,
so like, let me do it the way I want
it to be done. It'll be like little bowls that
I feel like it should face down because they got
a curve to.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Them, so they face that.

Speaker 15 (28:18):
She not, she doesn't face them up, but sometimes like
they're just not as down as they should be. Like
it'll be they'll be like.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Straight, but I'm like, I like, but sometimes to they
they're just not going the right way.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Because part of me is like, well, you ain't listen
to a man about nothing on the part of me
is like, but you also should be facing down those bowls.

Speaker 15 (28:44):
She's she's like, and I'm trying to explain her while
my baby because the water shoots up from the box,
She's like, how do.

Speaker 10 (28:50):
You know that?

Speaker 1 (28:51):
I'm like, look at look at it. The top is
it's just solid, so the a no compartment for the water.
It's a solid thing. When they shoots up and spends
a little I know. Like so she's been trying a
little bit, but I just you know, isn't it just
let me do it kind of thing.

Speaker 9 (29:06):
Yes me do.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Let me ask you about this because I too have
a disc struggle with with with my with my with
my beloved person.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
So okay, so I'm the type person that I I
feel that.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Ship to maximum efficiency, like I want everything that in
that bitch stack, and they will like leave, there'll be
empty spaces when they loaded, and I'm like, but why
but there's so like and so the'll be empty face
and then they'll just do they do the dishes manually,
and I'm like and I'm like, but it would be
much easy if you just put everything in and just
failed the crevices. What I'm like, And I'm like, joyge

(29:40):
or like it's okay, like like they're doing it, not you.
It's okay, Like when you do it, you do it
your way, and that's okay.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
I'm all about filling crevices. So, but it used to
be an MTV show, and it used to be they
would follow people around with different stories. But there was
one where a man go true life, thank you show, Yes, yes,
true life. Yes, I'm just gonna go ahead of intro.

(30:07):
In this week, we are great in our third seed
by someone who is known for clocking Tea, an award
winning journalist, once president of a uh N, A B J. L.
A usc Hey professor, and writer of one of your
favorite books historically backphrases, The voice you hear is my favorite.
Harvard graduate Jarrett with two T's Hill, thank you for

(30:29):
being here today. Back to my point a true life.
Remember there was an episode with a man who had
got he got leg implants. Do y'all remember that he literally, yes,
he got silicon. Yep, he got leg So you know

(30:50):
how the back of people he had chicken legs and
he was like a bodybuilder type situation, like he was
going to the gym all the time, and he was said,
I mean, very insecure about his legs. So he went
and got like silicone implants in the back of his legs.
I don't know what happened to that man, but I
always felt bad for him, Like I was like, you're

(31:11):
walking around with like silicon chicken cutlets in the back
of your legs because but again gender firm in care.
But anyway, that's what that reminded me of.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
This man, who I pray is still here with us
on this earth, who may listen to the show, just
got triggered because you had to be like you have
color legs.

Speaker 18 (31:33):
He did.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Around like damn, now he's not He's gonna start crying.
He's gonna rine our show even like, how dare you, bitch?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I mean, I'm just here again today. We're here with
journalism to talk the truth. We're here. We are here
to talk facts and that is what we plan to do.
But how are you here with how's your traveling going?
I know you've been traveling.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
I am doing very well, thank you.

Speaker 19 (32:05):
I'm I'm just concerned about the guy with the caffine
plants that certainly listens to the show, and it's probably
having better breakfast at Wendy's.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Than at McDonald's if you want to get into it.

Speaker 19 (32:16):
Okay, that Aenator breakfast sandwhich is a situation, but don't
get me started on that.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
This week, we are graced in our third seat by
a person who makes this podcast what it is. Now.
You may not know them, but you know their work
and a lot of the stuff that you see on
nine has been touched by the hands of Chris created.
Welcome back, Chris Rogers to the show. How you're doing,
infinitely talented, BFF, How you.

Speaker 20 (32:44):
Doing my love Chris Rogers at Sound Effects here, please listen, prepare,
listen editors. Now, okay, I have three because I don't
be on here often. So my first one is fiber.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Listen.

Speaker 12 (33:05):
If you are a millennial and you will not have
fiber in your diet, you do not have some sort
of regulation to your system, and you are out here
at prize and things, showing your whole and doing all these,
get in some fiber in your I saw some things
in the last.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Few weeks that just tell me that fiber is not
in the homes. Okay, that's one.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Two A speaking of fiber.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
R P.

Speaker 20 (33:36):
Rolling rays to go out the day before your birthday
is one thing. But the day before beyonce birthday, I
know he rolled into heaven. They rolled into heaven.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Just you know, on a high. I want to I'm
not gonna tell the story. Just rest in peace. Just no.
Rolling ray is hilarious in person? What was hilarious in person?

Speaker 9 (34:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Very a very kind person person. I believe that too.
I believe they had a really good heart.

Speaker 20 (34:10):
And on beyond the gates, Leslie, if I catch up
with you, it's gonna be me and you, Okay. I
don't have no context that if you do not watch
the black soap opera Beyond the Gates, you need to
be watching. Everybody need to be watching because we do not.
There's this the first black soap in twenty some years,
and they are literally eating.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Like it is.

Speaker 12 (34:31):
I believe that actually so much good. I hate everything
Beyond the Gates and Leslie Dana.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
If I see.

Speaker 20 (34:41):
My numb man Pam is PayPal.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
CAB's real quick hold on, hold on, Joe, is your
ac owing because we can hear it again? Yeah, okay, okay,
go ahead, go ahead, My numb man Pam.

Speaker 9 (34:59):
Is the.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Jade and next, welcome to Welcome back to the show.
How you doing babies? Hello?

Speaker 21 (35:22):
That did this?

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Cut? Niggas?

Speaker 1 (35:25):
And but oh we speaking name. I don't know where
everybody's head is. The world is on fire, so it
is what it is. But I definitely just wanted to
say for me this week, my yes ma'am is and
I'm gonna stay right in the theme of blackness. I
wanted to yes ma'am the black lady flight attendant who

(35:45):
handed me a whole bunch of those bisc off cream cookies. Now,
I've talked about this online but but I had never
had them, and so she gave me one and then
came back and had more in the basket, and I
grab too.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
For community work.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
And as soon as I was getting ready to get
off the plane, she dropped a whole bunch into my
hand and she said, Happy Black History Month, and baby,
the way we giggled the house down boots, it just
it just it made me feel so good down deep,
deep down in my soul. And so I definitely want to.
I want to, I want to speak her name, and

(36:24):
definitely want to say thank you to the black lady
Delta flight flight attendant who really helped me feel seen
in that moment. I also want to shout out, and
I don't do this often because we don't like to
shout out stuff that we're not getting paid to shout out.
But I do want to shout out the show in
New York. I definitely want to make a high mention

(36:45):
that if anyone has not gone to see death becomes
her New York City, go Michelle Williams. She did like,
I don't give a lot to people. I don't give
a lot to people, but mother ate that roll down
and she ate she is the show. I don't care.

(37:05):
Nobody says Michelle is the show. The two white women
in the show are cute. I love the movie, so
I want to see the show. But but Michelle is
that show. So I definitely want to give that to her.
My know, man, pam very quick, very easy. Obviously we're

(37:26):
not going to get out of here not talking about
Beyonce winning the Artists of the Year. I want to
give her all the credit and I want to lift
her name up. But I definitely would like to basically
say go to hell to anybody who has an issue
with the fact that, you know, why would you have
an issue many times over.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
A lot of people.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
She deserves more so while y'all mad all those other
times too, she deserves. But I'm happy that we're here.
So that's all what you got, jay xd any, yes
ma'am's no ma'm pam my yes ma'am and no ma'am
the same.

Speaker 22 (38:00):
Actually, I'm doing career day at school, which I think
is going to be, you know, an experience.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
You know, I'm trying to.

Speaker 22 (38:12):
Figure out how to be that mother where I am involved,
but you know, I also have to watch my tongue
when I go in there and the no, ma'am is
because kids are disgusting and gross and full of germs.
She's in middle school, and they are some of the
most rotten humans on the planet, and so.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
They need deodorant, they need brain dealder.

Speaker 22 (38:36):
It's a lot of scapingy mop and Sigma Alpha whatever
the fucks.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
So yeah, that's my yes, ma'am and my no.

Speaker 9 (38:44):
Man.

Speaker 22 (38:44):
It's going to be an enriching experience. And also I
will be guarding myself very closely.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Thank you as you should.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
I support that.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
I support that, my yes, ma'am is, I ain't sold yet.
And my know, ma'am is, I know it's coming.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Wow, I'll see you on the wall. Friend, let's talk
about it. Yeah under his eye, Yeah yeah. Below. As
much as I want to laugh, I have made a
note in our that we are about to be living
under James and Jim Crow two point zero, and so

(39:26):
I'm very uh as much as it's funny, absolutely and
uh how we get through it's uh.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Mm hmmmm. I'm I'm actually speechless.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I do not know.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
Make some levity Joe please.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
You know, but no, I will say my just to
that point, because I was invited to go to a
plan this week, and I was like, I'm not doing
that well. It was supposed to like a Black cultural center,
but I was like, there's no way in hell that
I will be on a plantation. Emotionally, yeah, emotionally, spiritually
not would not happen. I need to be in the

(40:15):
house again, like I'm fine, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
This is what you have to ask. What about me?

Speaker 4 (40:26):
What I want to go to a goddamn plantation?

Speaker 9 (40:30):
No, no, no, it was.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
It was not a friendship it was. It was not
a friend group.

Speaker 23 (40:34):
It was.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
It was it was more professional.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
And I was like, there's just and I was like,
I think I think I'd be good.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I have to pass on that I don't need to
see the cotton fields to know that I I don't
want to be around them. So it will be, it'll be.
It'll be yes, mamam. To myself for saying no, no, maham,
have beat you up been asked?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
I also give it. It's a yes and no to
the Grammys because.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
They took me out with every time they present an award,
they had to remind you that thirteen thousand people voted
for that award, just just so they could be like,
so it's just say it's not rid thirteen thousand people.
And I just thought it was so funny because they're
like in the Grammy as vodon by thirteen thousand people
in the Grammy Awards saying the winner is not just
like y'all really, y'all really trying to push to us

(41:24):
that this wasn't it so was, but go on, like
I'm sure it was in some way, but it just
made me laugh.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
I was, but I also think they were doing that.
They were I think they were also doing that because
there's been a lot of talk about people feeling like
Rammys are bought and sold and then they're about who's
so I think that they were trying to like insinuate
we're doing this the right way, even.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Though yes, but they did it with every single am
and I was like, y'all, we understand, we get it,
we didn't vote for this, Like it's okay.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
I believe. It's just made me laugh of the length
of which they would go to remind especially on a
year where Beyonce ou so they were like we just.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
It was twelve thousand white people's performance. It was like
it was more performance than I've seen before. I was like, y'all, like,
if you're going to perform for me, like Lisa, let
me not know your performance, which is right, God damn,
that's it for me.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, I definitely no, I feel that. I feel that
the performance is like it's it's it's yeah, we we
see it. We see it very clearly, and yeah, we
definitely is wild.

Speaker 24 (42:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Baby, The way people try and make us, try to
try and make us puppets makes me makes me just
tickles me pink every time. I'm like, wow, you love
us so much right now? Thank you, Thank you for
the twenty eight days anyways of the year.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Anyway. With that being said, thank you everybody for listening.
Send your thoughts, feedback and emails, and I'm sure y'all
are going to have a lot to say about this episode.
My god, black fatfepot at gmail dot com. I love
it though, I really do. I love y'all so much.
I really I just enjoy y'all brings so much joy

(43:04):
to me. She's an actor, she's a producer. Her not
a producer, a produce. Her and writer. Me and her
have been on many calls writing together talking about our scripts. Honey.
She's also a mother, a certified baddie and the best
has the best brows in the gang period. Please give

(43:28):
it up for the wonderful and the incomparable. My sister,
Jessica Marie Garcia, how are you, my love?

Speaker 25 (43:35):
Oh my god, I love you so much.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
You're gonna make me cry.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Oh gosh, No, don't beat no crying around here. It's
all celebration and fun.

Speaker 25 (43:44):
Oh my yes, ma'am's. I think the biggest one will
kind of piggyback off what you said and what we
talked about earlier, those immigrant students walking about and using
their voice.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
I'm so.

Speaker 25 (43:58):
Inspired by the younger generation who are like, you know,
really using their voices and and and their platforms so strongly.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
I wish more people did that.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Mine. No man, I feel like I have so much.

Speaker 11 (44:14):
I have small I have so many small greens.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
And that's what that's what this is form.

Speaker 25 (44:20):
I am annoyed by people that leave every other trash
in the theaters. I just went to go see Lufasa
with my daughter and it was like just disgusting, and
I was like, you know, just because this somebody's jobbed
to pick it up, doesn't mean they need to pick
up after you like just things like that, just people
that streat service industry people in general, because so many

(44:44):
bigger there's so many bigger things.

Speaker 11 (44:46):
Like the administration. The world is on fire.

Speaker 25 (44:47):
I can know Pam, Pam everything, but they're small things
that just bring me over the edge.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
And their things just being inconsiderate of other people.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Fair with this artiste, a poet, activities Moguel Okay and
culture curator introduce so much fucking more, always more. You
may have seen her when her incredible words to make Goods,
Make Good Famous Summit graced our ears and we're still
to have her speak with us today. Please welcome the

(45:21):
incomparable Bay Davis.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
How are you a sister having a good old piece
of time here?

Speaker 24 (45:33):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Ye, yes, yes? How not having me? I'm good? God,
I feel good. My spirits is high. My nigga made
me shrimp and gris this morning. It was out here.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
At your house after this, right, First of all, I asked,
like the deministration, you keep firing people, but like there's
no one left at this point, so like you like
like you claim that we have that we have a
strong defense system, that we have, that we have a
great climate system, that we have.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
We will Actually it's a lot because you don't believe
in climate at all.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
But you know, we have great x y Z system
but like no one's ever run the system, so like
what like which is like how me understand the process?

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Like walk me through what the thinking is for this?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
But just like like just like m to the mistris
in general, but particularly that that really made me feel
this at a lot of types of ways, like if
folks want to give themselves in service, is not on
me to to stop them. And people believe people believe
in this country. Again I ask you why, But people
believe in this country and they want and they want
to fight for it, then like then they should be
able to listen again, not my decision, not you know,

(46:48):
not my above not okay, you won't find me there,
Like if this is your journey, girl.

Speaker 14 (46:59):
You.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Will see me coming up pupping with them with the
raffles in my hands. Not today, let me tell you,
I don't even do camping. It's too close. You like camping.
I'm like at the hotel. Correct, No, like you women
like never hire me ad jac into the woods. I

(47:21):
want to stars, I'm gone. I want to see a
tree anywhere and all the trees are not your friends.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
Girl.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
I went to the woods. I did a show Humble
a couple of weeks ago. Girl, look, the trees was beautiful.
I got into the woods. I was crying. I said, wow,
this is so nice. I got on the little swing.

Speaker 26 (47:39):
I broke all my nails. I said, the trees is
not It's not for you girls. No, i'd my finger.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
I can't bury. I wasn't even I was on a
on a trail and it was the easiest trail.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
I couldn't bring.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
All the girls that I was with was like, this
is so beautiful and nice. I was like, bitch, right
for the city form, how do I see a national
park to give me a return? I just need a new.

Speaker 6 (48:11):
Settlement for.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
The dollars. When I got that, how about your baby?

Speaker 26 (48:21):
My yes, ma'ams is, I don't know. I just give
a Black Joy Parade and open that's that's my yes.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
That was my first time going into Black Joy Parade
and I hosted one of the stages. Can I ask
does that happen every year?

Speaker 26 (48:34):
I want to say yes. I feel like it's an
annual thing because they asked me to come on a
handful of years ago. But I got COVID girl, and
I couldn't go okay, okay, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I never thought I was gonna get my taste or
my smell back. But I'll be sniffing down. I'll bet
I have to pause like an old Dell computer and
be telling people that's COVID. I know it's COVID because
I'd be so flagging.

Speaker 26 (48:58):
I want to, Oh my god, I'm start blaming my
coge a half for the years ago, a bit buffering.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I had COVID three years second. Just give you like, oh,
I know what I want to that's COVID. COVID would
do you?

Speaker 13 (49:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Black Greade is my yes, ma'am. I had a good
old time there, and it was really beautiful. It was
just really beautiful, really impactful. Also feel very ancestral, very free,
very nice. My no, ma'am, what's my no, ma'am? You
know what my no, man is.

Speaker 26 (49:34):
I'm tired of expensive little coffee shops on every corner.

Speaker 12 (49:38):
I feel like I feel like.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
That's like, that's that's what's it called. That's white people's
liquor stores, you know what I mean? And I'm tired.

Speaker 26 (49:50):
I'm tired of coming in and I'm tired of paying
ten dollars for my little lavender latte and it's not
even good.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
I fear.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
On her pitch.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
She don't. It's sucking me up like I'm tired. I'm tired.
I will yes with the blue little streaking.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Part.

Speaker 11 (50:11):
Were coming to soft Drop.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
That's the name of them. It's vegan. I need to gluten.
I don't care where it comes from. I don't know
what it looked like behind something. You need some. I'm
just that.

Speaker 26 (50:26):
And that's why I say, just closed now across the
street from last Echo Park on little Vegan spot. That's
why they wasn't gluted, and they fucking for and the
coffee was expensive.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
And it wasn't sweet enough.

Speaker 6 (50:37):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah, I'm right there with you that part, that part
gentrification is what's you know? Ever since they took the
trans fats out of our stuff, the world ain't been right.
Put the trans back in the fat, thank you?

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (50:55):
Amen?

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Transat the title based next poems.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
I need a little Hello. I am not afraid yet.
Got our editor messed up. I'm so sorry she got
you messed up? Is not here like that? Chris? Cut
that out? You can. I love you and I hope
you don't quit, Chris, don't end up quick and being

(51:30):
mad at me. I'm sorry, Chris. I love you. You
know it's all love. Please.

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Speaker 1 (51:41):
How are you, my dear friend?

Speaker 6 (51:43):
Hello?

Speaker 21 (51:44):
Hello, Okay, y'all, I'm already having the best time. Okay, my,
I'm gonna do my know first. So my no man
Pam is Noilla wafers like unless you are under ten
layers of banana pudding and whip topping, you don't.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Belong here and you're gross and nobody wants you.

Speaker 21 (52:04):
And when they include Nillo wafers in the like mixed
snack pack of cookies, I've been working with children lately
and I'm telling you, no one wants them. No one
wants them. It's a waste of money. And all the
Nilla wafer bags are left now.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
You don't like freetos like the like the corn FreeDOS
like delicious, nobody but nobody wants them.

Speaker 9 (52:27):
I do. I want.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Let's not get onto chips.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
That's a whole other podcast.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
My Uh, yes, ma'am, oh, yes, ma'am is I'm so.

Speaker 21 (52:39):
Proud to be on this podcast today that has black
fat fem as the title. Fat needs to be discussed more.
We need to continue to take it back everything that
we do. I speak for myself, but it seems like
what y'all are up to, especially having the word fat
in the title of your podcast, is about fat liberation
and removing the stigma and what it means zempic or Noah, zempic, Lizzo, fat,

(53:01):
lizo thin, whatever it is, it's that we can continue
to hope and fight for a future where the stigma
of being fat no longer exists. It can just be
a descriptor, it can be a part of your genetics,
it can be a part of your body and who
you are, and it doesn't have to weigh so heavily
on people as a constant sort of source of whether

(53:22):
it's stress or things, something they want to change, or
something that is wrong with them. So I'm just proud
to be a fat liberationist and to continue to fight
in this activism, in this in this sector of activism,
because for me, I've never really been As I get older,
I understand the importance of politics and the importance of activism,

(53:43):
and as this being my platform the fat activism. Every
single day, I see the plus bus as my act
of fat liberation, being open, you know, paying the rent there.
It is an act of radical activism to be on
a major retail street and say fab fat fashion for

(54:04):
all to see, and everyone that walks by does comment
on the title and comment on the word fat and
on our little sign that says the rules of being
in a body positive space. And so I just makes
me really proud, and I'm proud to be here in
this conversation with y'all. I think these conversations are needed,
talking about ozembic, talking about taboo, talking about how painful

(54:26):
it is to see Liza's weight loss, and also that
I you know, if she's happier or it's been good
for her at John, as you said, it's somebody on
her team, but I don't know, it's somebody somewhere, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
It's like she's.

Speaker 10 (54:37):
Also I don't know, or maybe she just I don't know.

Speaker 21 (54:42):
I don't know that I agree with that, but we
all know the voices that are in our heads and
the voices that are in our society, and so I'm
just I'm really happy that somewhere like this exists to
have these conversations.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
And when Tisha Campbell.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Comes on invite me back, it will be a with
a co host im just like you.

Speaker 11 (55:04):
Know, just like me on the keys.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I could like, yes, yes, we will definitely yes.

Speaker 21 (55:08):
Govin Newsom was the governor of San Francisco nineteen.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
What the fuck where do we even live anymore? My god? Anyway,
y'all already know your eyes are not playing any games.
They have not deceived you. We are loud and live
and in color with one of my favorite all time queens,
LaTrece motherfucking Royale. No introduction other than five g's please,

(55:36):
and what are they? You asked? Good God, girl, get
a grip roll.

Speaker 6 (55:42):
Thank you for being here, my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
You can see Jacob Jacob you're yes, ma'am saying you're no, ma'am's.

Speaker 9 (55:54):
Okay, So I can yes, ma'am like a word yeah,
So let's I'm gonna yes, ma'am. Inspiration okay. And because
partly because you have inspired me, whether you know it
or not, So I want you to know that. And

(56:15):
I say that because I am a procrastinated by nature.
You know this is what I do. I'm trying to
get it around, and I'm so busy. But then I
found myself sitting at home and I was taking a
little break before I came out here and realizing that
I have been talking about doing things and developing a

(56:36):
new show for myself, like a television show. Wow. So
me and my husband sat down and wrote the treatment
for it.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Oh my goodness, Yes, progress, I love that.

Speaker 9 (56:49):
You know what I stand. What I'm saying, So be
on the lookout because I am going to be shopping this.
I'm going to try to get this.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
All going.

Speaker 9 (56:57):
But I have been inspired and also to start working
on my book. I have three ideas for books now,
all of a sudden, and so where as I had nine,
I am suddenly like floodgates opened and I have a
lot to say. So there here's the inspiration, yes, ma'am
to that. Yes, okay, so I had to do that,

(57:17):
and my no, ma'am bitch. Okay, let's get to a
c V motherfucking ass Okay, there all please, Okay. I
went to the CBS the other day ago. Okay, I've
made a post about this because I was hot the trot.
I went in there and I got gathered items that
I could carry with it my two hands.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Now that.

Speaker 9 (57:39):
Baby able to six items. I got a bag of popcorn,
some baby lashes that I would normally not even wear,
but it was I was like, I'm gonna be on camera,
let me get the little little lash baby. Okay, So
I got the last two packages of makeup white and

(57:59):
something else?

Speaker 1 (58:00):
What else?

Speaker 9 (58:00):
Did I get?

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Aqua four? Yes? And look, yeah, seventy five?

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Nothing?

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Because I saw your posy you said.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
Screamy seventy five.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Hold on, I saw that. What the gag is when
you be traveling. There's a part of you that's like, bitch,
this is so much money. But then the other part
of you was like, you need it, you need have it,
like but you got to gain.

Speaker 9 (58:35):
I went in there because I needed to d things
that I'm not gonna even get in I didn't need.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
I didn't need to, but I wanted to put you back. Yeah,
that one, it's the only way to do it.

Speaker 9 (58:50):
I didn't need to put on.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
But still that wasn't That wasn't the bank breaker, bitch.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
It was everything.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Dollars. That's what took. God want some tension, damn, Like I.

Speaker 9 (59:11):
Take like vitamins, baby manager, I get ahead of the pain.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
You know, I know that's right. Yeah, yeah, that is Yeah,
CBS will get you. The pharmacy is out here, pharmacy
in the worst way. Yeah yeah, you be literally choked
every time with hands. Okay, catch my god. But yes,

(59:38):
so we we don't speak your name. We don't speak
your name. So today we are joined by the one
and only Star. Did I say that right?

Speaker 6 (59:49):
You said you were close enough, but it's Star Ross.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
I'm a Rossue. Okay, I know that's right. Well I
tried ask for my no man, Pam. So as you
all know, I live on a p I ain't At
this point, I want to say no, ma'am to people
who literally don't know the cologne on the perfume, limit
three to four sprays in a small area. Please. Somebody
on my flight and it was cheap. I knew it

(01:00:14):
was cheap because my asthma started acting up. Sprayed all
this cologne and then got on a plane and everybody
was coughing on the plane for the forty five fifty
minutes we were on the plane. Baby, if you are
can you not like that? Is just my prayer. Please
make sure that you know how many sprays to spray
if you are going to spray perfume or colonne before
you get on a plane. I just want to say that,

(01:00:34):
what are your yes ma'am's and your nomam PAMs for
this week?

Speaker 18 (01:00:37):
Love yes, ma'am, going on a walk, okay, but go
on a walk, no, ma'am. It's so funny. Is also
being on a plane. It's just being on a plane
in general.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
It is no ma'am.

Speaker 18 (01:00:49):
Though we have to do it, but yes, it's su stressful.
And I've been having the thing where I was sitting
next to this boy and he was like so serious,
and I felt I had a peek.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Girl.

Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
You know, it's like when you get on the plane,
you got a pin You're in the window and.

Speaker 18 (01:01:02):
I'm like, oh my god, like excuse me, sir, like yes,
get up, And I was like so pissed, and I
was like, girl, it's not that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
It's not my fault.

Speaker 18 (01:01:12):
Right, We're on a plane, girl anyway. So that's my
no ma'am. Is people with attitudes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Yeah, people with attitudes, especially when you fly, and it's
like come on, like I like, that's my biggest thing
is like people take themselves way too seriously in the
airport people take themselves way too seriously on a plane.
I threw you wholeheartedly and oh my god, go ahead,
go ahead, Oh no, no, no sorry.

Speaker 18 (01:01:35):
I didn't mean to cut you off, but it just
made me think about this, thinking about somebody smelling on
the plane.

Speaker 6 (01:01:40):
This funny story, because I'll keep it short with this lady.
So I get on the plane.

Speaker 18 (01:01:43):
This girl in Jabi gets on the plane, so she sits,
the girl in his job, and then this older white
lady sits in the window and her son's in the middle.
So the girls wearing some strong perfumed like ood, like
some kind of ood, but it wasn't too crazy. But
the lady was like, I'm sensitive.

Speaker 6 (01:01:59):
She's like like I want the meltdown, no, like vocally, and.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Then she goes yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
He's like, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 18 (01:02:08):
She calls to the attendant at She's like, can I
move seats? This girl's perfume is just too smelly. I
just can't handle it. I can't sit here. Can I
sit in the front? Is there open seats in first class?
And the lady's like, no, you can't go to first class. Lady,
Oh well, it's just a smell. And she's like okay,
well there's a seat actually in the back of the plane.

(01:02:29):
You want to go say, there's this there's a open
seat in the back, so we can go ahead and
take you back there. And she was like, oh, well no,
but and then she's the lady's like, are we gonna
have a problem, And the girl and the job is
like looking around, and she's like.

Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
No, I don't have a problem. I love all people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Wait, I love so much to happen on a plane,
I know.

Speaker 18 (01:02:52):
And she starts crying. Oh of course she's not. She's
having a breakdown. And now everybody's looking around.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
What she she was white lady, okay, of course. Huh.

Speaker 6 (01:03:02):
So then her son goes he turns and say, mom,
you just need to quit it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:03:06):
Then in a discussion, so that was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Just yeah, I tell I've been saying this, and thank
you Janelle James for giving me this in my lexic icond.
I want to make sure that I don't say it
as if it's my own. But Janelle James has a
whole If you haven't seen her comedy special on Netflix,
please get to it. She has a whole thing on
Netflix where she talks about bus people being on planes,
now and that is literally what it gives, It very

(01:03:32):
much gives. There are a lot of Greyhound people that
have literally started going, have been choosing to go to
the sky to fly, and it is literally what it
is giving. So yeah, I definitely, as someone who has
literally flown almost seven times this month, I feel this
conversation in my sir, Yeah, girl, I have been that.
I've gone to New York. Okay, I have gone to

(01:03:54):
Portland this month. I have gone to where did they
just come back from? I went from Austin to Vegas
and now home, and then next week I'll be up
in Berkeley. So yeah, I have literally not been home
for more than a week before I have to fly
again this month, all because of this book, which I'm
very thankful and grateful for. But I definitely feel this
conversation deep in this This like the bowels of my shindow.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Fashionables, hell house, down boots and looks amazing. The face
is always right, the hair is always laid. Please welcome
our our girl today, Danali Joe Al how are you?

Speaker 14 (01:04:30):
Oh gosh, I'm trying to think of this. M Yes
ma'am two Oh, I would say, yes, ma'am two more
opportunities to being in community. This wonderful like you amen? Amen, Okay,

(01:04:54):
I truly am grateful. I can't stress that, I know.
I'm just like, oh my god, here with my I may.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Thank you, baby, thank you.

Speaker 14 (01:05:06):
No, man, would be no cultural appropriation, as.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
I'm working on a project for that right now, and
oh my god, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Please yeah, and I already know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Oh yeah, I was gonna say, how do how do
I crash? That? Would I get in trouble if I
just showed up?

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
You shouldn't all that, Okay, it should be accessible.

Speaker 9 (01:05:30):
There you go, I have no, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
I'm like, do you even pay.

Speaker 14 (01:05:38):
The table?

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Interesting?

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Okay, So it's like I say, by only and so
I wasn't sure how it works either, but yeah, interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Well one day, one day we'll be in Bye for.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Free Joe there yet sharing the table.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
My probably one of my pieces will be will be yes,
yes we will not.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
And I just want to see you slap Ana on
one tour. I hope, I hope I live long enough
to see you run up on her.

Speaker 14 (01:06:09):
No, I'd be like, who's that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Yeah, I don't know the lady. I know that's right? Yes,
what about you Joe, there is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Danger.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
I'm so sorry. I should should I got beef. I'm
always have beef with her how she did Andre, I'm
just always have beef with her. Also the executive director
of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, And if
you don't know what that is, that's pleasing. So with
that being said, it is one of the leading orgs

(01:06:46):
and anti discrimination work for l g b t Q
individuals and youth, and so it's just a pleasure just
to have them. Melanie, thank you so much for being
on our show today.

Speaker 27 (01:06:56):
Thanks so much for having Me'll and not to use
in our whole government name. I feel like that's the
name on our birth certificate and we don't use that name.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Yeah right right, but you know you got to let
the girlies no.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Worry about it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
You and everybody's like, okay, we know what that is.
But for those who don't, okay, because every time, every
time I have to put down GLAD, sometimes I have
to scull it out as I'll be on the internet,
like what.

Speaker 27 (01:07:27):
Say the whole do you say all the letters that
GLAD stands for? Well, no, I see you right all right?
So so my yes, ma'am is my Bessie, my my sister,
my ace. Latifa Simon from California's twelfth Congressional District is
repping shop, is wrecking shop in Congress. She is moving

(01:07:50):
in the footsteps of my forever representative, Barbara Lee and
the fire of Shirley Chisholm. She's been my sister and
my boss since two thousand and four. She can call
me a right now and tell me to do something,
and I'm like, Okay, I might talk back a little bit,
but I'm gonna do it. And what what I know
about her is that she is bringing her heart and

(01:08:10):
rigor and brilliance to.

Speaker 11 (01:08:12):
The work in service of her people, in service.

Speaker 14 (01:08:15):
Of art people.

Speaker 27 (01:08:16):
And I get to I get to see that in
real time over the last twenty one years of our friendship,
and I get to see it. We all now get
to see it with her snatching wigs in Congress. And
so I'm just so proud of her, and I just
and just a warning. If you find yourself on the
on the sharp end of an anecdote from her, baby,
you are in trouble, because she's reading me for Bhilth.
Don't let her tell you about how she rode the

(01:08:36):
bus to take her baby to school. Don't let her
tell you about how she has paid a medical bill
because her husband has passed away, passed away from cancers.
Like it's like, if you are you are in trouble,
if you are on the receiving end of an anecdote
from her, because she she is coming for your for
your edges.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
So that's why.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
So that's my guest, ma'am.

Speaker 27 (01:08:55):
And listen, I mean, I think I kind of said
it earlier, so I'm just gonna go back to what
I said previously, which is like my man Pam is like,
stop listening. Stop looking for love in these in these institutions,
Stop looking for validation from people who are who don't
have your best interests at heart. You know, just don't
do it, don't you know My mom would say, my
grandma would say, stop trying to get these white people
to love you. And it's like, so there's a way

(01:09:17):
in which it's like it's beyond like not just white people,
it's everybody. But really to say that, like, you know,
like there are people who are for you and the
people who are not for you. And know, man Pam
to like seeking validation for the people who.

Speaker 9 (01:09:27):
Are not for you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
M oof, Okay, you said, you said what you said,
and I'm with you when you write. I wit you
when you write. I'm happy to have them on this
week's episode for us to chat. Please welcome Emily Rumble
to our show. Welcome Baby officially to the Mike. How
are you? Thank you, my love. I'm so blessed.

Speaker 24 (01:09:53):
Thank you for having me on the show. Black Fat
and fam is one of my favorite books of the year,
and I'm so pol just be a community and to
have been trusted with your book as an early reader,
you know, like your story.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Really, Baby, this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Week mine is gonna be very short, sweet to the point.
This year, this week, this year, that's how it feels.
It feels like we've literally been living a year and
a month this this week. I want to give my yes, ma'am. Obviously,
of course, I know you're going to get into it, Joe,
so I don't want to step on you too much,
but I definitely want to say shout out, and I
actually wanted to say this at the top of the episode.

(01:10:31):
Shout out to all of the people who are helping
people organize and do what they need to do to
get these ice people up out of their out of
their city, out of their areas. I see it happening
both in LA. I see it happening not in LA
and I'm just so grateful. I'm starting, Like I said,
I've been feeling it for the last couple of weeks,
and I definitely want to say like, I'm starting to
see this collective like we got to have each other's

(01:10:52):
back right now, and I'm seeing it happens so many
different factions, and I'm so happy to see it. So
I hate that we're here, and I hate that we're
having to do what we're having to do. But I
also wanted to shout out all of the people that
are actively working to make sure that people get the
protection that they need and stay protected the way that
they deserve. So I wanted to say that. The other
thing I wanted to say to uh, just kind of

(01:11:12):
out there Brothers of the Desert. They actually hosted me
this past week out in Palm Springs. I have never
seen black elders be so kind and so loving and
so welcoming to me, and it was just a beautiful
thing to experience. And so I wanted to take my
platform to say, brother of the Brothers of the Desert.

(01:11:33):
Thank you for including me, Thank you for helping me
feel seen, thank you for helping me feel valued for
the work that I'm doing. And I'm so grateful that
you are doing what you do and that I get
to witness that from both my you know, online experience
and then also in person. The other thing I wanted
to say in terms of no man pounds so this
week I definitely wanted to say again, I said we

(01:11:54):
were going to talk more about it, and we're actually
running out of time. So I'm just gonna say this.
Snide white women who try to act surprised when they
get clocked for their oppressive ways. I've seen it happen
in several iterations. And it's not just Patty Lapone who
I want to pin here. There are a lot of
white women in the media who do this thing where
they say and do things and then they go, oh,
my god, it that's not what I mean. Nah, bitch,

(01:12:15):
I know what you meant. I know what you I
know what you meant to say, and you're trying to
act like you're not. Oh I didn't know. No, Nope, nope, nope,
let's clock it. Let's call a spade a spade. I
know what you're saying, I know how you're saying it,
and I definitely appreciate when people clock them. The other thing.
I also wanted to say shrink flation because I opened
up a bag of chips this week? Why was most

(01:12:38):
of the bad air you.

Speaker 9 (01:12:41):
Meant and food?

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
I was like shrink as in like therapist.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
You know, I catch I'm catching it. These stores think
they slip you don't charge any seven dollars, but it
has only five chips in the fucking bag. Those lais.
I'm looking at all of y'all niggas. Why why is

(01:13:08):
the fuckings? I had to say it. I just can't
to say, Emily, we we even.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Do all the in the show.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Okay, we are fools, and we are fools. Will drop
Jahn's okay, like we are very educated. But I also
like to call the state of state nigga, I know
what you're doing? Fucking pringles? Why are those pringles for
dollars and there's only five pringles in the fucking can?
What is that?

Speaker 9 (01:13:40):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Okay, Joe, what are your let's?

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
What are your.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Please?

Speaker 11 (01:13:51):
My only yes, ma'am is girl?

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
You being yourself? Shine bright.

Speaker 24 (01:13:57):
Is needed, and it takes courage, and know I ever
feel divinely protected because that's the thing about light work
is that part of light work is a mastery of
the dark arts. And you're always going to confront darkness
that's in challenge and opposition and maybe antagonistics of who
you are, who you're trying to become, but love yourself

(01:14:17):
enough to become that. And we're rooting for you, and
you're supported by community ancestors who come behind you and
are covering you. And that's my guest, ma'am.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
And I know, ma'am is like anybody who don't fuck
with you, Okay, I don't like I don't like you neither. Yeah,
because we do yes and also book, yes, yes, yes, yes,
And I'm will be putting the link in I will
be putting the link in our show notes for our
friends to buy the book. And like I've said on

(01:14:49):
this show before, and I will keep saying. When when
folks write articles, when folks write books, especially black and
queer folks, are black folks whoever is marginalized, they do
something in this this sphere. We've got to support them
because the industry is looking for any type of way
to say that our stuff is not you know, our
stories are not important, or that no one's looking for

(01:15:10):
our stories. So please go out by Emily's book. I
definitely think, you know what, actually, you know what I
might end up doing. I think I'm a buy So
how about that? How about we do this. The first
person that emails us when they listen to this show,
I will send you a copy of Emily's book. How
about we do that?

Speaker 9 (01:15:25):
We do that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Whoever emails us shoe, but we'll get you. We'll get
you whoever show first, We'll send you a copy of
the book. So that way, that way, yes, So that
way we can support the dogs, that the girls get
what they deserve.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Activist, aecuter of movement culture, even producer, and also also
a Bay Area born patty. Today she serves as the
executive director of NAFA, or the National Association of to
Advance Fat Acceptance. Thank you you please, Jonas, and welcoming
our dear friend Tigris Osborne.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
How are you girl? Day?

Speaker 11 (01:16:06):
My friends, I am I'm so happy to be with y'all.
I am not a Bay born batty, but I am
a Bay loyal batty. I spent twenty two years of
my life in the Bay and basically, yeah, okay, I
well and I love it like I'm a native.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
So this week we're gonna remix our yes ma'am and
our no Man segment. So we initially in our notes
have put something in here for Tigris to talk to
us about fatness and pop culture and all of the
things that we actually enjoy are things that we hate.
So we're gonna do a spin on that. We're gonna
do a yes ma'am to the things that we think
are really cool ass fat people, and we're gonna do

(01:16:44):
a no ma'am to all the things that we hate.
So I'm gonna start with you yes you see see
you see what I did. But we don't do a
little bit of a remix because we got we we
got us a very very talented, educated, brilliant person with us,
and I was like, I would love to know in

(01:17:05):
their mind what's actually happening here. So we'll start with
yo Hoe, We'll go to you Tigers, and then I'll
close out what is something that your you that you
as a fat person you're loving right now? What is
something that you see that you're like, oh, this is
this is this is what's up? Okay, So yes, ma'am.
Fat jokes told by fat.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
People, Hey man, okay, no, ma'am, No ma'amo told by
by my size people, no man, fat suits.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
But yes, ma'am, it's if it's yes man, it's b mamosell's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
And yes if it's circa two thousand, I hate you. No, no,
okay and absolute no. I am tired of wage storylines.
I can't stand them. I don't pep talk about how

(01:17:56):
to lose weight, and I don't and I don't need
a girl to pet how to be confident either a
yes ma'am to a character who inherently just just loves
your body regardless, no comments on it like no one's like,
oh she's so brave.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
This bitch is just like her being a regular person.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Yes, yes, do not do not give me a whole
sir line where I have talk and be like, oh
I can be confident, girl, You are confident?

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Yeah, live your life. Live your life, bitch, or no
one's living for you, girl?

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
Amen?

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Amen? Uh so tigris, Yes, ma'am's to to fatness, No,
MAM's to fatness.

Speaker 6 (01:18:36):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:18:37):
The yes ma'am that came to mind for me first
is that I've been totally binging Tiny Desk concerts because
it's Black Music months and they're doing some incredible new ones.
But I actually, when I first started watching Tiny Desk,
I actually thought it was specifically a black music show
because whatever I whatever I started it only was recommending yes, right, yea.

(01:19:00):
It was so long before I realized there were other
people on Tiny Desk. But and I've seen lots of
other great Tiny Desks. But but really that vein of
black artists and the way that bigger bodied folks of
all genders are, you know, in those clips looking fly
as hell when they are the backup singers, when they
are the bands. Like, it's not a bunch of fat

(01:19:20):
artists as the main artist because it's Maxwell, it's Usher,
it's whoever. But like, but like looking at although I
love tanking the Banger's Tiny Desk, you've never seen it,
if you've never seen it, incredible yet Also yeah, but
bigger bodied people, right, Getting to see bigger body people
through that particular show is really turning me on lately.

(01:19:41):
So that's what came to mind as like a big
fat yes, ma'am, because it's like a bunch of little yes, ma'am,
because it's a bunch.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Of different episodes.

Speaker 11 (01:19:46):
Rights, no, ma'am. I mean, I just I really want
people to stop asking the question has ozimpic killed body positivity?
They're there's a whole wave of media and it keeps
like recycling, Like every time I think it's gone away,
then there's a new one that's like diato ozempic kill
body positivity? Or like is is is you know, fat

(01:20:09):
activism over because of ozimpic and ozempic at all? Right,
all of those drugs and listen, one of the key
principles of fat liberation to me is body autonomy. People's
choice whether or not to access these medications, even if
they're accessing them specifically for weight loss, that is their choice.
But the way we talk about it collectively, and the

(01:20:31):
way the media talks about it, and the way that
it is pumping up narratives about the fact that fat
can be solved and should be solved, this is a
big just a big fat no mam to all of that. Right,
I like want to have subtle, nuanced dialogues around weight

(01:20:51):
loss and the weight loss industrial complex and all of
that stuff. But just as a sort of like super
shortcut of just been like nos anymore because it was
a big like that sucks and it's untrue.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
We're gonna jump into our horror back and we are
going to invite them. And these two queens run their
own podcasts where they explore horror films and figure out
whether or not they survive. Are they the final girls?
Please join us and welcoming the host Kim and Kat
stay alive? Maybe Kim and Ken. How are y'all, baby?
How welcome to the show.

Speaker 16 (01:21:30):
We've been wanting come on your show for a minute.

Speaker 23 (01:21:34):
We're so excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
To any LAPD officer, to anybody who's a meter person,
and I was gonna call a meter maid. I was
gonna do all these things and I'm just like, no,
it's it's actually Patty, I'm not doing that. I just
want to say fuck you and fuck anyone who intentionally
misgenders anybody. And I hope your booty itches indefinitely. I
really do. I hope you cannot like you. There's this
indefinite scratch you just can't get and it continues to

(01:21:56):
keep happening and you probably need to have surgery to
have it removed. That's where.

Speaker 9 (01:22:02):
What chat love that?

Speaker 23 (01:22:06):
Well, first of all, I yeah, I just I'm sorry
that you went through that. I just, you know, I
find it. It's not like I haven't accidentally misgendered people before,
and it's just it's so easy to go, oh, thanks
for telling me. Sorry, you know what I mean, Like,
it's not anyway, I'm sorry you dealt with that. Mine

(01:22:26):
is significantly less heavy, I would say. And I had
this list of all these other things I was going
to do, but this is really just coming from the heart.
So my yes, ma'am, is the breakfast I had this morning.
I thought it was a breakfast that everybody had. I
asked my husband today, I said, did you ever did
you not eat this as a kid, and he goes, no,

(01:22:47):
I've never had it until I met you.

Speaker 16 (01:22:51):
So going to share it with you.

Speaker 23 (01:22:53):
All toast, peanut butter, seasoned scrambled eggs on top.

Speaker 16 (01:23:01):
You're welcome.

Speaker 23 (01:23:02):
I yes, it's gonna give you that face, but you
gotta try it. No yankee faces, no yucky faces till
you try. We just take one bite, but.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
I'm not gonna get do you do? So my question
is because this is something I, well, even my husband
does like, right, now I know. When I'm done with this,
I'm gonna go upstairs. Any corn, beef, hash and some eggs,
and I'm gonna make toast and put some stuff on.
Do you put eggs on your jelly toast? No?

Speaker 20 (01:23:33):
Just no?

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Okay, wondering because I know everything everything interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
I love jelly toast ship.

Speaker 28 (01:23:47):
Okay, okay, yeah, uh my, no, ma'am again my food
to be separate.

Speaker 29 (01:23:55):
I guess she does like she has a very military she.

Speaker 23 (01:23:58):
Has a militarized.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Yeah, I get it, I get it.

Speaker 6 (01:24:06):
Repect, I respect.

Speaker 23 (01:24:08):
I was also so I had this whole thing about
how I couldn't afford to see the Cowboy Carter tour
in Los Angeles. I thought I was going to be
able to see it in London because they have caps
on ticket prices. It's a billion dollars. But then there
were other things where I could get into the Welsh
infrastructure abuse from the UK government. I'm not going to

(01:24:29):
do that, and I'm just going to tell you that
I say no, ma'am to smashing my pinky finger between
a boulder and a brick yesterday, because I did not
realize how much I used my pinky and it really
fucking hurts.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Oh bruised. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 23 (01:24:49):
Yeah, so that just like it just trumped everything else
that I was mad about. And don't smash your.

Speaker 16 (01:24:59):
Don't wash or pinky.

Speaker 23 (01:25:02):
Between a boulder and a brick.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Don't do it.

Speaker 11 (01:25:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
I went to shave this week and I cut the
like inside of my and it has been fucking me
up for like three or four days. Girl, that little
just that little nick. So I get it. I get it.
Why you sing so much every time, drink sting everything,
and it makes.

Speaker 23 (01:25:26):
You more mad about everything else that was already making
I was already mad, but now my pinky is telling
me to be more.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
It's cost of eggs, cost of gas. I'm pissed, but
now my pinky hurt, so I'm even more pissed.

Speaker 16 (01:25:38):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Yeah, yes, what about you.

Speaker 28 (01:25:42):
Kim, Okay, my ma'am is my city, Los Angeles. It's
just like, yeah, I mean it's been a it's been
a hard year. It started with the fires and now
the invasion from ice, and I think like the way
that the community has come together, Yeah has you know.

Speaker 29 (01:26:04):
Like it's been like a beautiful thing to see.

Speaker 10 (01:26:08):
Yeah that like you think sometimes.

Speaker 28 (01:26:11):
I think or people think that we're like so divided,
but it's like when like shit cuts down to it,
you know, like at least like this city. Fuck, you know,
we are a community and we like the way you
see people like protecting their neighbors and like going out
in the streets to like be on ice watch and
things like that.

Speaker 16 (01:26:31):
It's I went on an ice hunt yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
I love it. I love it. Yeah, yeah, I'm loving
not to take away from you, Kim, but I'm loving
seeing there's a lot of reels and tiktoks of people
who are buying up the street vendors stuff like the
folks flowers and the folks who are to keep them safe,
so they'll go out really early in the morning, give
them like two hundred and fifty dollars, buy all of
their flowers, and say go home. And they've been doing

(01:26:57):
that for like the last week and a half to
keep them protected from ice and that. Like I've been
don't like I've been giving money here. Whenever I see
it on my timeline, it's someone's like, hey, can you
give us twenty dollars. I will because I'm like I'm
so here for that, Like, let's keep these people safe
and also shout out to I don't want to say
this because I don't want people coming from me, but
I saw that people at issues with the Dodgers, and

(01:27:18):
then the Dodgers was like, oh, if y'all think we're terrible,
we'll flip it on you. They protected them. Y'all can't
come in millions of dollars to the families of immigrants
who are having issues. So I don't know where this
rumor came from that the Dodgers supports ICE. I don't
know where that rumor started, but don't. Yeah, it's very

(01:27:39):
much giving to me that they don't, So I'm very
much you're not.

Speaker 29 (01:27:43):
No, they very much were like get the fuck out
that have been like get the fuck out. Yeah, just
protecting and it's just yeah, it's beautiful, grateful to see it. Yeah,
speaking of uh, there's this group called.

Speaker 28 (01:28:03):
Know Us Without You in LA I think is a
group that I work, but they've been like helping Know
Us Without u LA if you're looking to help their
like they get like food too.

Speaker 29 (01:28:18):
That community and been doing it for like years.

Speaker 28 (01:28:21):
Like groceries and it's like thirty three bucks will like
feed a family of four or something like that. Like oh,
they're they're really great.

Speaker 29 (01:28:29):
Okay, my no, ma'am.

Speaker 23 (01:28:31):
I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 29 (01:28:32):
Yeah, okay, I know there's some cat moms in this
group right now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Watch it? Yeah, watch shit.

Speaker 10 (01:28:41):
Okay.

Speaker 28 (01:28:42):
So we have a backyard, which in itself is a
feat in this lifetime group, Okay, And it's beautiful and
it has green grass and it's like an escape and
I love it so much. And there is okay, look,
I'm not even sure it's a cat.

Speaker 29 (01:28:58):
I don't know what kind of animal it is.

Speaker 28 (01:28:59):
But some animal has decided that our beautiful backyard is
their toilet and they come in every morning and maybe
they do their toilet business. But lately they've been puking
in the backyard every morning, and I don't even know
what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
I don't see them.

Speaker 28 (01:29:18):
Also, we're fenced in, so they're either jumping eight feet
over the fence or they're coming from the front, so
they're like jumping over the fence in the front and
walking down our driveway all the way around the house
into the backyard to then just throw.

Speaker 16 (01:29:34):
Up in it every day.

Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
I have some carefying questions.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
I have carefining questions for you, wild or just have
poop look.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Like because cat pooping anderent are different poops.

Speaker 29 (01:29:49):
Right, a different set in the poop.

Speaker 10 (01:29:53):
As my boyfriend.

Speaker 29 (01:29:54):
But I've seen I've only seen the puke. What's the
difference of animal pukes?

Speaker 23 (01:30:01):
I don't appreciate him that you are just making wild assumptions.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
That a cat.

Speaker 28 (01:30:09):
Nandi has has seen a cat because he wakes up
early in the morning, wakes up like five, and he's like,
I've seen a.

Speaker 10 (01:30:13):
Cat in the backyard.

Speaker 23 (01:30:14):
Has he taken a picture?

Speaker 29 (01:30:17):
Sure, it didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
So if it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Cat, If it's like a turd, it's not a cat.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
The cats, the cat's pooping like perhaps like pellets, or
they're small, the small poop.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
The cats are tiny creatures.

Speaker 29 (01:30:33):
Okay, but how do I make it?

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
How do you make it? Stops the question?

Speaker 29 (01:30:38):
Do I make it go away? Whatever?

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
I think you probably have to set up a camera
and see what it is and figure out that way.

Speaker 23 (01:30:46):
My question is why you're trying to get it to
go away? And why aren't you putting food out? The
cat just threw up, has an empty stomach.

Speaker 29 (01:30:52):
So this cat clearly needs help.

Speaker 28 (01:30:55):
They should go tell their parents that you're sick.

Speaker 16 (01:30:58):
Well, cats do throw up a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
That is kind of the Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I've never heard of a coyote throwing up or anything. Yeah, yeah, So,
And I don't want you to give away too much.
I don't want to. I don't want to know where
you live because I don't want people knowing on the
air where you live. But I'm like, I'm wondering just
what area it is, because I know where I live,
Like I just saw I know, this is so sad.

(01:31:21):
It actually made me really sad yesterday. We saw a
dead baby coyote yesterday. Because we have a we have
a main road, like there's there's a main road to
get to the highway where I live, and that main
road is near a lot of what's the word shrubbery?
I guess, yeah, it's very ferny, So it only makes

(01:31:43):
sense that you know, a baby would probably get hurt.
And I always think about that when I'm driving. I'm like, what,
what baby could get hurt? But where I live is
not so much very shrubbery. It's very developed. So if
you're in a shrubbery area of Los Angeles County, proper,
it could be I'm not.

Speaker 16 (01:32:01):
Listen it's probably a cat.

Speaker 23 (01:32:03):
All I'm saying is.

Speaker 29 (01:32:04):
I definitely a fence. Fence does all around.

Speaker 10 (01:32:08):
I'm just saying, jumping over.

Speaker 23 (01:32:09):
I don't I don't appreciate assumptions that are being made,
the slander towards cats.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Yeah, and I just love animals.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
I just will get out of my back guard.

Speaker 23 (01:32:21):
Well, you know I love animals unconditionally.

Speaker 16 (01:32:25):
I guess that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 28 (01:32:27):
I'm about to have a human who's pee and pup
and poop that I'm gonna have to clean up.

Speaker 29 (01:32:32):
Okay, like we really.

Speaker 16 (01:32:38):
Yeah, I'm about to be an aunt. So thank you
so much congratulation.

Speaker 28 (01:32:48):
Just come over and clean up our non animal that
doesn't belong to us poop.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
While you take.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Okay, we got you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Yes for today. They are a legend, they are an icon,
and they are the moment. Now come on now.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
They're setnegal based creative and pop artists with a smooth
voice and a hold of the raise.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
Professional.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
She's a performer and she's my pickupball. Cister, Please show
me welcoming.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Me to our girl vire to the show today.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
How are you with your friends?

Speaker 9 (01:33:20):
How are you doing alone?

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 30 (01:33:23):
Doing real, real good excited about everything that I just heard,
and yeah, I'm doing good. My yes, ma'am is, I
just want to This is a little story. So I
went to the beyoncea Cowboy Catters show in l A
and then amen and and and the Cadillac.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
Was upright and and going doing what it was supposed to. Myself,
I walked.

Speaker 30 (01:33:55):
Down this young young young man and I've seen this
out and I said, oh, your outfit is Oh, it's amazing, and.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
He said I made it. I said, okay, go on,
so he said take my Instagram. I said okay.

Speaker 30 (01:34:11):
And you know we've been communicating and I just want
to give him his flowers because he made my pride.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
Outfit for me.

Speaker 30 (01:34:23):
Yes, and his name is Marquis and Marquise Designs, So
I just want to give him as flowers and thank
him and my homegirls who came over to help me
bedazzle my outfit when we got it here because he's
in Florida.

Speaker 5 (01:34:40):
So that's my yes.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
Now, thank you so much. Love that I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
I love so much well, And so what a moment
Beyonce brought us together. Look what she's doing, she's doing
the work, what she has done she's doing the work. Yes,
my no, ma'am.

Speaker 30 (01:35:02):
I don't know if y'all want to have to block
this out if but what I am going to say
is that like they've given j Lo to Michael again,
oh god, you know, because the pen is so hot
with the president, I just thought it was great if
you just signed an executive order to keep that laid

(01:35:24):
off over the stage because I'm tired.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
What she is doing to us is absolutely diabolical. It's sinister.
Hang it up, dance, but put the track on a dance.
I can't take it out one moment.

Speaker 31 (01:35:43):
I'm just saying, flat screen, flood screen, the amount of
flat shock have not reached notes that I've heard on
these clips.

Speaker 30 (01:35:59):
I'm and you had the audacity, the gumption, the gol
goal to James Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
So I an so no no man and you're actually
onto something. Yes, So yes, that is a no man
pan that I would check and if it wasn't, if
it's you can add that one to mine too, because
I'm also sick of her. But I was watching this,
Uh there's this woman and I wish I knew what
her name was. I saw it in my algorithm. She

(01:36:31):
broke down how we only ever see j Lo this
much when Beyonce is doing anything. When Beyonce is like
on tour, or when Beyonce is like promoting an album whatever,
there's this thing and I guess it goes back, she
was explaining, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but
there she was clipping things together and she was saying that,
there's this clip of I guess when they work together.

(01:36:52):
In two thousand and five or two thousand and six,
you remember when Beyonce and j Lo did that PEPSI
h like it was like an old what do you
call that? It was a commercial, but it was like
an old They were no, they were dressed up like.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
I thought they was in catsuits or something to that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Okay, either way, they did a commercial together and basically
word on the curb is that and this is this
is from the clip. This is not me assuming this
is from the clip. Jlo pushed Beyonce in the pool
and there was this whole thing and and Beyonce like
laughed it off, but the girl was just saying like that,
j Loo has always had it out for Beyonce, Like
there are other clips where people have mentioned Beyonce to

(01:37:38):
j Lo and j Loo has, in so many words,
basically did what Carrie Hilson did, This notion of like
I don't see it for Beyonce or I don't see
it for Beyonce's success. So I sail about to say,
that's the reason why we're being inundated with Jlo these days,
It's because Beyonce is on tour and Beyonce is getting
all the fanfare. That's why we're seeing more.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
This makes some much sense. I saw a clip it
was like ten times beyond. It was Hilariser interview and
the first clip was soon asking her about Jayla and
she says yes, who oh no, do not mean.

Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
I know exactly what to take away from your you're no, ma'am.
I am also sick of that lady as well, simp
on the time because this record you were you are
you a person of a particular age? Do you remember?

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
Because you're I was like, who for topia? I hate
to say it, I hate to say I want ignorant
on the street.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
I would know a thing. Sorry to that girl, Sorry
to that girl. You don't even know what azema is?
Do you you know? I was like emphasmo, no, no, no, no,
you don't know what a is? Do you You don't
even remember when Dorito's was three D?

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
Huh, girl, what you know what?

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
Girl? You missed out? You missed out? You missed out. Girl.
There was a time. No, so there was a time.
You know what. Okay, let me introduce our guests today.
They need I see them making make it a last
and they got to get in on this conversation. We
you know, someone better call Moses to make him take

(01:39:28):
us the freedom because this week he had your girl
on the show. I'm introduceing no, no, no, I'm introducing
them because they got to come in here because I
need somebody who's a person of a particular age. We
have a special guest in our hot seat. This person
is no King of Vogue. They are a legendary performer.
They have they are an icon twenty eighteen. You can

(01:39:49):
see them on polls. You may have seen them on
legendary King DeShawn basket. Mother, get in here. Now, do
you remember three D Dorito's, right, y'ah?

Speaker 32 (01:39:58):
What's having this conversation about three D Doritos and zemas?
And yes, I do remember three D Doritos. It was
like a pop in your mouth. It was crunchy. Yeah,
that's a specific time. Hmmm, well my yes, man will
go to Hope Giselle. She's a woman who's speaking in
spaces that a lot of folks don't have voices speaking.

(01:40:22):
She's making sure rights are being you know, fulfilled and
the best way possible to our girls, our dolls, and
making sure voice is being heard.

Speaker 5 (01:40:33):
I just support her.

Speaker 32 (01:40:34):
Had an opportunity to meet her one time, and I
still support her in every you know space that she's
trying to like tackle down because baby, she's informing me
about things that I didn't even know.

Speaker 5 (01:40:44):
So it's just I support my once up goes to her.

Speaker 32 (01:40:48):
Definitely a transgirl in the space, a black trans woman
who's making sure things are getting done. So I support
that woman. Keep doing your thing, day, Shaun's behind you.
A hundred tempers of baby.

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
My no, man, Pam, I you don't have really much
a no, man, Pam. Because it's something not working on
my space. I'm gonna know, man pamit been in there.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
So mother said, I'm not waiting. Yeah yeah, right.

Speaker 9 (01:41:14):
Then and there.

Speaker 32 (01:41:15):
But if I was to say anything, I'm gonna know, man, Pam.
Those folks who don't give their self enough space to
understand who they are. You know, I understand me living
in such an interesting world right now, interesting space, but like,
you have to understand who you are, what you like,
how you like to move, what you like to do,

(01:41:37):
a lot of people don't take care of themselves more
than they take care of others. So got to kind
of flip that mirror back and make sure that you're
okay before you make sure somebody else is. So for
you not taking care of yourself, baby, take care of
yourself and then you can take.

Speaker 14 (01:41:50):
Care of the other.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
Well, this week we have someone in our thirty which
I'm so so awesome, Like I'm always so awestruck of them,
and I'm always so grateful when they say that they
are going to like when they actually say yes to
wanting to be on the show, because literally trying to
catch them as like trying to catch a pokemonger. They
do everything, and they be everywhere, honey. But this week
we are centering the entire well, I'm gonna tell you

(01:42:13):
the entire most of the show actually, though, hold on
if we really want to talk about it. Our segment
three is about mental health because the person we're talking
about is not well so yes, we are centering our
entire show around health, mental health, how to take care
of yourself, how not to be unwell, And I said,

(01:42:34):
you know, self, this would be a great time to
call your sister back and a fan favorite to the show.
A lot of folks may or may not know, but
this person was on a couple of months ago and
a lot of people loved the information that they offered,
and so we were like, let's bring them back. So
that way, you know, we have an actual, you know,
doctor nurse in here, and so y'all may know him

(01:42:56):
as doctor Nurse, but I call him my sister, might
be ff one of my sisters bfs and if and
if you will, one of the one main reasons I
keep going in this musty ass business of creatordom, James
is usually the person who is always pushing me to
go forward and to keep going and doing what I
need to do. They are known as the most sought
after medical expert in the media. I just watched the

(01:43:19):
clip of them getting somebody together around detoxing and water
and all of that. That was a really cute clip
because you gathered mama. Mama thought she had you, and
you gathered the hell out of her, and I said,
that's my sister doing the Lord's work. They have the
uncounty ability to just spel complex and complicated concepts, which
I think is so needed in this world because so
many of us take what we see on social media

(01:43:40):
and we run with it. And James is so good
at being like, nope, let's get this shit together, let
me get you right, and so a lot of what
they share I think it's not only just informative, but
it's also funny. I just I just really wish everyone
knew who doctor James was, and so I'm so grateful
that they're here. Doctor James Q. Simmons. Welcome back to
the show. I know I just saw you, my y.

Speaker 15 (01:44:03):
Have you.

Speaker 5 (01:44:04):
First of all, thank you so much for having me.
Thank you so much for having me back.

Speaker 33 (01:44:07):
I am always always happy to be here with the bffsh.

Speaker 34 (01:44:12):
But wait, I'm gonna take you everywhere with me to
introduce me. Next time I go to Popeye's, I'm walking
and you're gonna.

Speaker 33 (01:44:23):
Come with me, so everybody knows who the f I
be ye that introduction.

Speaker 5 (01:44:29):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
I can write an intro. I'm gonna tell you right now, my.

Speaker 5 (01:44:36):
Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 33 (01:44:38):
I know this is a little broad, it's not necessarily
as specific, but I really want to give some shout
outs to I'm gonna go on your theme of white people.
There have been some white folks who have really been
standing up to Ice.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Yes, yes, and.

Speaker 5 (01:44:57):
Can I see enough?

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
I see it.

Speaker 33 (01:45:00):
I cannot also reiterate to all the white folks listening
that that's the only way this is gonna stop.

Speaker 9 (01:45:07):
Like when.

Speaker 5 (01:45:09):
Black and brown folks stand up.

Speaker 33 (01:45:11):
To Ice, we get shot or we get to quarters
or whatever, right the citizens or not, it doesn't matter,
so we it's gonna have to be y'all. Y'all saw
that video that cute skinny white girl in the parking
lot of Target or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:45:23):
She stood those whole.

Speaker 5 (01:45:24):
And they weren't even really Ice. They were those dudes playing.

Speaker 33 (01:45:28):
She stood them down and her girl recorded the whole
thing and she was tricksy LaDou just coming from yoga
practice whatever, going to Lululemon. I've not been more proud
of her. So thank y'all that they might have been. Pam, Yes, ma'am, Pam,
thank you very much. Like we have to, we have
to keep this energy, like y'all cannot just we have
to houses whatever my man, Pam, since we're moving quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:45:53):
I have a couple.

Speaker 33 (01:45:55):
But uh, this is super nerdy, but you asked the
healthcare guy to be on there is probably going to
eliminate all fourteen people from the US Preventative Task Force,
and those are the people who determine things like what
should cancer screening guidelines be? What are to die We

(01:46:18):
talked about like ozambic, like what what people? What are
the safety regulations? What are the recommendations for blood pressure medication?
What are the vaccine schedules? Controversial vaccines are not contract vaccine.
He's getting rid of all of those people because they are.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
Ready for it.

Speaker 5 (01:46:36):
Quote two quote. So we the guidelines by which I
practice won't be coming from the CDC because those divisions
are already gone right now.

Speaker 33 (01:46:49):
The other agency that did of the US State prevented
the task Force is now gone. So we are literally
going to be floating out in the wind in terms
of updating the guidelines based onis and the evidence and
the research about when we should things like we give
black people colonoscopies earlier now because there was such a
high rate there still is such a high rate of

(01:47:10):
colon cancer, and we weren't catching it early enough in
black folks. So like where if you're forty five, where
you have a previous family history, you get that colonoscopy.

Speaker 5 (01:47:18):
It used to be fifty.

Speaker 33 (01:47:20):
The US Preventative Task Force are the people who got
together and said, wow, the black people getting getting colon cancer.
We need to detect this earlier because colon cancer is
one hundred percent curable if you detected early, right, those
are the people that did that. Those people are not
out of a job because of RFK. So that is
my no man, Pam, fuck him.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
Yeah, it's forever. Fuck fuck everybody who voted for this.
But yeah, definitely that joho.

Speaker 33 (01:47:46):
Oh so soid Sorry, I don't know you listen, you
gave the medical providers every down er.

Speaker 9 (01:47:54):
You know, you know how we do.

Speaker 32 (01:47:57):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:47:57):
Just it makes me feel really good to know that
this person so much beautiful work out there. They've reached
millions and millions of views with their inspirational videos on TikTok,
best selling books How to Be You and Take Your
Own Advice. We are so happy to have Jeffrey Marsh
here on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
How are You?

Speaker 10 (01:48:17):
I was waiting, I was waiting to tell you how
much I love you, oh honey, And I mentioned it
a little bit before we hit record. You saved me.
You kept me going the two of you this show.
And I know something of what it's like to be
in front of the camera and that can be lonely sometimes, yeah,

(01:48:40):
But I also know what it's like to be vulnerable
and tell your story and be honest and frank about
who you are and what's up and tell the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Yeah, and what comes with that. So I love you, bo,
not you trying to get tears out of us ten
minutes into the show six well actually six six, honey,
trying to already take us down. So what are your thoughts, Jeffrey,
What are your yes ma'am's and your no man PAMs
for this week?

Speaker 10 (01:49:08):
First I will tell you my yes ma'am is both
of you. But we're gonna get to that in a second.
I someone sent me, like early early early twenty twenty sixteen,
early in the publishing of my book, a picture of
it in the airport, and like that is when your
book is like real, You're like, oh, I'm real, it

(01:49:30):
really happened the air Someone's going to be on an
airplane and read it. You know, it just is a
totally different level. So I'm so I love that story.
The two of you changed my life. Oh I told you, Jonathan,
that you after I'm forty eight years old and after

(01:49:53):
decades of feeling like I couldn't I don't. I don't
know if you need me to or want me to
say more, decades of feeling like I didn't deserve having
my nails done, that I couldn't go to a salon
and be my queer ass yourself and sit in the chair,

(01:50:14):
but also like adorn myself that way, worship myself. I
had to be like rushing around doing my own nails.
You know, I'm terrible at it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:23):
And like.

Speaker 10 (01:50:25):
I went from seeing you and I don't know if
you would say this, seeing you worship yourself like that
be yeah, a gesture of respect for who you are

(01:50:46):
as a human being, and I was like, I need
to go. So I picked this color for you this episode,
this hot pink, hot pink. It but both of you,
being on the mic, happen to know something that goes
along with that some of the pressure that goes with that. Yeah,
So thank you, and you don't have to you don't

(01:51:09):
have to respond, but some of the choices you have
to make between your dreams or telling the truth. And
you both inspire me all the time.

Speaker 6 (01:51:21):
About that.

Speaker 10 (01:51:28):
I'm going to second yours. Mostly, I find it really
difficult to be around people this is this is my nomam, pam.
I find it really difficult to be around people who
are not working on themselves to an extent that they
become a My teacher at the monastery called it a
social relief that all of their stuff needs to become

(01:51:54):
your stuff. And you see that with people tearing each
other down.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (01:52:01):
To be specific, yep, it's and in twenty twenty five,
I think we're not We're not in this space where
that needs to be the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
It's just it's so ugly. Mother's here, welcome to the show.
Thank you had to be here.

Speaker 35 (01:52:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
I'm a fucking tired That's how I am.

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
Real, real, we still tire in the streets.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Episode is gonna be called my yes ma'am is a no,
which is weird, but I'm gon break it down.

Speaker 35 (01:52:41):
Yes ma'am is saying yes ma'am to not feeling the
need to be on social media and share everything like
you can give yourself a break, you can not be
on it at all. Sometimes I've just found being more

(01:53:02):
present and in like intimate spaces and community spaces and
just like, yes, I want to capture the moment of
ar kind of stuff, mostly for myself, not even social media.
But then there's just something really special about not at all,
Like those moments were like nobody's on their phone, everybody's
having a good time, like I just I've had several

(01:53:23):
of those this year, in particular and intentionally, and so
I'm just gonna continue saying yes ma'am to those and
then my no ma'am is silly. But also like, girl,
get your kids off the floor in that airport, Get
damn kids off the floor in the airport. Its me

(01:53:46):
off to know. I like I have to go and
walk the other way because I'd be so irritating kids
off the floor.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
You sounds just like me because I be. I will
literally be by gain. Why is that baby on the ground?

Speaker 9 (01:54:00):
It is so.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
With the carpet all just couldn't be me. It couldn't
be me. You want to holler I literally, you want
to holler like Edwena Literally, I'll be sitting Why has
that been. I ain't got no shoes on in the
airport the flower. Why are you touching that? Yeah mm hmm,

(01:54:28):
but no, that is such a valid no, ma'am, or disgusting.
I love when I'm in good company. With that being said,
this has been another show. Stay black, fat, femine, fabulous,
and remember what Jojo.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
We may not be your cup of tea, girl, but
get some liquid IV because it's hot in these streets.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
Baba, You'll be You'll be looking like Fantasia, about to
kick your shoes off and sweating out your wig. It's hot,
so take care of yourself. I love us for real.
I see you next week. By

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