I Support Gay Rights & Wrongs (Featuring Marquis the Honey Bear)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey everyone, welcome to another.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Episode of the BFF Blackfefan podcast where all the intersections
of an ND are celebrated. I am one of your hosts,
John also known as Doctor John Paul. I'm looking so
part of me was about to just go into my spill,
but now I'm looking into my camera and I see
that Jordan is doing her makeup.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Maybe where you are you going somewhere? Afternoon? About it?
What about it? Are you going somewhere?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I can't tell you that because then because then you're
harass me for it. Okay, okay, so you're playing, you'll
see my location.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, well that part because you know, I keep tabs
on you, and that's the thing. One thing I'm gonna
do is keep tabs on my sister and tell her
to take her black ass home. But all that to
be said, I definitely I just real quick before we
start the show. I wanted to say, smart Pop, go
ahead and sponsor the show, like we tell everybody else,
go ahead sponsor the show. But I really to say
real quick that I do have a couple of words

(01:01):
for you, so you've had me down with the white
Cheddar popcorn. I don't know if if y'all are white
Cheddar popcorn girlies or if y'all are popcorn girlies in general,
because a lot of people aren't popcorn girls. Okay, good
our guests, you'll hear them and I'll interro them in
just a second. But our guest is a popcorn girly.
I love that for us. You've recently added the nacho

(01:24):
cheese one. So for the girls who know, they know
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white Cheddar. The white Cheddar is the Beyonce of all
of smart Pops.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Popcorn.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Nacho cheese is very much giving. Both Kelly and Michelle,
we love them dearly, We love them to a tea. However,
Beyonce is Cheddar popcorn. What I will say is this is,
why can't we get a Destiny's Child of popcorn? Why
can't we just get all of them together, the Cheddar, mix,
the white Cheddar. Why can't we just get the nacho
cheese like like, I literally have to buy two bags

(01:59):
and mix them together to get what I want. And
I think this, I think that's preposterous that I have
to go through all of that in order for me
to get my fixed when I need popcorn and shout
out to a wuena my mother. She is the queen
of all popcorns, and she's one of the ones who
taught me this. So I say all of that to say,
I just like smart pop. If somebody's listening, and if

(02:19):
they got their eye over a smart Papa, they't know
someone over there, can you tell them to just give
it to us in one bag because I'm kind of
tired of mixing it myself and having to deal with crumbs.
Matter of fact, literally, this whole my whole life is
me having to do things myself, and God damn it,
I'm sick of it. I'm sick of having to do
things myself. So all that to be said, if you,

(02:41):
if if you feel me, what is she saying that?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
How to win?

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Man?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Who ended? Throw your hands up?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Throw your hands up at me if you feel me
and you're sick of having to do it yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
But anyway, how are you? Joho? Are you? Is your
back aching? Are your pants too? Tin?

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Is your boot to shake from left to right?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Please? These are the questions I've listeners want to know you.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Were just going off about small popcorn. I was like, okay, smart.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Am I who's the said?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Who's the same I've gone interest saying Now when someone's
like do you know this thing? Or did they answer?
I'm like, who's to say? Because now I'm not gone.
All I know is what I know, and when I don't,
I don't, So I just say who's to say?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
All?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
But what I do know is that my back is
taking my brow to top my boot Jaggen fronds after that, Yeah, exactly,
fam is your girl Jordan ak Joho and girls. It's
a wild time to be alive. And you know, I
had a lot that wanted to say by side not
to I'm just gonna do my makeup. I have a
my cut, Little Nicks cosmetics, that lip drip oil.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
It's not the guy is. This is not mine. I
don't know who's this.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Is, but please, but I've had worse, and I've had
worse myself. No, honestly, I think I think what you think.
Someone that I know and love is for surets one
I know and loves like it's that was in my house?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, I know right right, So I'm not that it
was like off the street, like I have some domas standards.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Well, yeah, it's cute, a little little, a little touch
for y'all.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, yes, yeah, I want to shout out.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
I don't know I got someone had sent me some
I call it lip chap. Someone sent me some lip
chap and I forget it was from mac and I
forget who gave me. And I have yet to wear it.
One of these days I'm going to get my life
together and put it on. But yes, we love a
good color. And actually really right she she's giving not
but more like, uh a little just an extra step

(04:52):
up right, it's giving. It's giving Chipotle regular, Yes, given
Chipotle to your regular Barrello, Yeah, it's given.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yes, yes, and we know it's extra.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
But they're white. That white cheese that they got is nasty.
I just want to put that out there. I don't
know what that is. They have a white cheese le. Yeah,
I don't know what it is called queso aks Ablanco.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
That's cause is my ship. We're gonna move on.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
So with that being said, our guest today is not
just the vibe. They are the vibe, from dripping in
fashion to overflowing with fun, they create right podcasts and rains.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
They are am I using the right pronouns.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I just want to make sure, yes, okay, they are
mister bear La twenty twenty three and honey. Okay, they
is the hyphen in multi hyphen it the one holding
of those titles together with stylein Spider.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Stop what you're doing, turn.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
This up and give it up for the one and
only Marquista Queen.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
How are you hello?

Speaker 4 (05:59):
I mean, I'm doing very well.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
And I was thinking about like this popcorn discussion, and
I was like, what would the LaToya lucket like flavor be?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Is that dyl like?

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Is that caramel?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Like?

Speaker 4 (06:10):
What?

Speaker 2 (06:13):
What?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Or even what's the other one that's no longer in
the group, Pharah? What would the Farah flavor be?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Oh, discontinue something something sweet?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
But understated continued, Who said crazy?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Is that our producer in the Okay? I thought it
was Joey because Joey is funny. You said discontinue? My god,
not even like a limited edition damn a girl?

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Maybe limited as in taken down?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yes, yeah, mother mother is gone.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
But with that being said, yes, I definitely like, yeah,
but yeah, the LaToya Lucket flavor. Yeah, listeners, tell us
what the littatoya lucket? What would be the what's her name?
The other one?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Who was the other one that got the boot?

Speaker 4 (07:11):
LaTavia?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:12):
What will Latavia's flavor be?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
These are the thing? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (07:15):
These are good questions. These are really good that I
want to have twenty six bullshit happening in the world.
I want to know this.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, yeah, amen, amen, mm hmm. Well, with that being said,
we are going to kick off our show like we
always do and give flowers to our good systems Tisha
Gambel and our Still Here segment. This is where we
talk about how we are surviving and thriving in the
world that is trying to kill us girl.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
In the worst way.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
So for today Still Here, I'm taking a page from
your your show, Honeybear, and I'm gonna say, let's go
into what's a queer thing that you like to be saying? Like,
what is a phrase or saying that has only been
heard amongst the gays or at least in the sphere
of the game that you know only other queer people

(08:03):
are gonna get? Like when you say it for me,
whenever I scream yes NASA girl, people usually know what
that is. That's Funky d Neva. Funky Dniva. Whenever something
good is happening, she will scream, yes, that's a girl.
And I catch myself saying that often and don't realize
that I'm saying it until I like hear myself back
or see like I see a video and I'm like, yes,

(08:24):
Nasa get it because and people are like, who's Nassa
and Thatessa's just a person somebody that you like, you're
keying on. We just we love NESSA shout out to
Funky d Neiva forgiving us that over the years.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
That is a hit. The other one I will also
say is tea.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
So if I feel like someone's saying something and I
feel like, okay, girl, you got this, you saying you
saying what needs to be saying, I would say tea.
That's that's tea. The newest one that I love. Somebody
said I saw it on a video. Someone said I
know you don't like coffee, and the other person's like what,
And they said that because because your body's tea. And
that's like one of the thing that I love, Like,

(09:01):
I love the idea of taling someone that they don't
like coffee. Because you want to say that their body
is tea. Yes, I love that. That's another one that
I love. And then the other one, I say a
lot to you, Jojo, because you are my sister and
we've been friends for almost ten years. Don't do me,
that's the other one. Like my sisters be trying it
and they be trying to be cute. I'm like, girl,
don't do me. And that's just the kind of a

(09:22):
quick way of saying like, yes, I am the mess
that you say that I am, but also I'm not
acknowledging the fact that I am a mess, and I
love you for trying to acknowledge me as a mess.
But anyway, marquis, what is some of your favorite queer sayings.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
I mean, right now, my main sort of like queer
vocal stem. I mean, I won't say the actual slurgus.
I don't want to get you all in trouble, but
like you know, the ts Madison when she's like at
the drive through and she's like, aha.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
I sluran, I stop saying that.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
I can stop saying that, And the thing is, and
I think that's like the beauty of queer culture. I'll
just say that, like when I get like caught up
and like somebody's trying to like, you know, clock me.
I'm like, oh yeah, and it doesn't take that, and
everybody gets it, like the girls like get it, get it,
and there's like a solidarity whenever I do that.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Queen, Yeah, when I go and I like we usually
know what.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
That is too, and we're just like at this remember
just like Queer Pelicans, like the past like two three
years that's just been in like the lexicon. It's like,
no matter what happens, we'll just be like and it's
like I'm in a roomful of gays all doing that. Yeah,
no matter what. And that's a big one for me.
And the words when I'm trying to like hype up

(10:38):
my girl or read my girl? Do you want drag race?
Like you know when like Charlie Hides was lip sticking and.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
They're like Charlie, do something. I like to stop that
out at my girls.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
She came after me to block her. She came a
long time ago.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
I wrote an article Amerson, and she came after me
and I had to block her for it.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
She was like she was like, she was like, you're
just so tired.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, because she used to
do black face, and so I called her out for it.
And when I called her off for it, she came
after me because I named the fact that she used
to do this little whole black face.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
You don't understand it.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
What's the time, And I'm like, I don't care what
time it is.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
You were racist. It was twenty sixteen, so what.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Was coming after?

Speaker 6 (11:26):
A black person? Fork found in kitchen? Like these tracks,
but also Charlie do something is going Charlie something.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Because Charlie, Charlie done gave up.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yes, that is literally going into my lexicon today.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
The reservice just just attack you a kidnap for this, Yes, Charlie,
I want to name this Charlie do something.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Charlie do something something. It's just it's like the perfect
thing to just yell out.

Speaker 6 (11:56):
And I mean I think the classic one yes, which
is like I'm go piss girl.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Do you all remember that phenomenon?

Speaker 6 (12:02):
I feel like that is like never no, okay, during
a pandemic, let me give you all that, please please.
In a pandemic, there was like, you know this like
meme about like gossip Girl, like just like the title
of the show, and people like rearrange the words to say,
go piss girl.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
And so in the past few years, whenever.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
Like I'm at the club and like you know, you
have to go to the bathroom or something like that,
like the amount of times a gaze like rush to
be like go piss girl.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
That is in my lexicon girl from Yes.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I've never heard that until girl. I love it. It's
a feeling. It's it's a feeling of support. It's like
I stand with you. Go piss girl. You've got to
put your piss girl.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I love I appreciate you saying what your first one was,
because that is d What inspired this segment was was
hearing the episode.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's how you just be like Queen.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
All the time.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
So I so I mean that I was thinking of mind.
I was like, I hate that. It's like so Dray
rays focused.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
But like drag Race really like unfortunately, like say what
you want about the show.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
It provided so much pocabulary.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
I just be saying sometimes, oh, you want to twist mama,
Like if people.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Somebody surprising happens, Oh you want to.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Twist mama, Like I just yeah, twist moment, twist.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
When you know when someone when someone when someone's like, oh,
I might do this differently, change your costume, change change
it around.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I literally say that.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Change this is your moment.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Literally.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I also say a lot I've had it officially when
i'm I have had it officially, Yes I live.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I also.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
If I okay, no but someone but someone's okay, but
this is like decoverment. When someone is like, oh, Joe,
like like do you think like like you do you
think you'll do this thing?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I'm like if I had a lipsy for my motherfucking
life bitch.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
Ready, yeah, yes, I was ready.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
I'm also being on their very very mindful I left.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I don't know why I correct somebody because I'm like,
see how I.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Was right, demir very very mindful. I'm always correct you're not.
That's just how it is.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
My favorite one.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
When someone gets on my nerves and says some super ship.
I'm like, you're just so tired, which is from legendary like.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Like legendary so tired.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
The fact that that did not get them renewed for
five more seasons when you said, law, you're just so tired,
and that that was television.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
That was please, that was even fail baby, Yes, no,
I was good.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
Was like oh, bring that ship back. Yes, it was
like like it was like also one of the first
shows to sort of get caught up in like this,
like disappearing media in streaming, like Legendary is like one
of the first ones, and so.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
It's just so ridiculous that show was really the oldest.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, bring bring HBO, Please bring a lot of our
favorite HBO HBO bring that part that part. I was
gonna also say shout out to our to our gift
Queen Ni Leaks, because I'm real notorious for being like bitches.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Is mad, bling is mad.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I'm real notorious for screaming out any lee line, Like specifically,
I literally tweeted something aren't tweeted.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I messed.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I put something out yesterday because there was something I
have to tell you offline, Jordan, what what What transpired?
I can't say it on the mike because I don't
want to get in trouble, but I was gonna say
something happened. My friend texts me something. And my first
thing that I posted was you don't do you can't
win when you play dirty, because I was thinking about
when Nini was going after cam Uh and they was

(16:27):
going back and forth, where is your Scoon.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
That is one of my.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Favorite things to just randomly shut out, where is your scooter?
Make it make sense? Huh, make it make sense?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Anyway.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
My favorite thing before we go on Yes, is a
whole exchange where and I caught it all the time
where she's like, Okay, yeah, whatever that means, it's getting
weird shop who whole thing is?

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Just because I can listen to that on the iPod.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
Yes, one interview that she does where she's like, hm,
I wouldn't give her that much credit.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
I don't have a feeling. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
She's like mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
And he's like, she's talking openly about you in the press.
She's like, Okay, glad that you're speaking openly. Yeah, it's
what do you think about her? I don't think about her.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah. It was very She's literally great television. Bring MEI
leaks back, even though she pretty much is probably not
supposed to be anywhere near E or Bravo.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
But all that to be said allegedly.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I want to say the allegedly so that way her
people don't be trying to hit us what it seased.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
To be doing.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
But all that to be said, now that this segment
has you thinking about your favorite queer vocal stemp at
the food girl. We gotta take a our friend at
the girl. Huh huh.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yes, I'm acting, I'm acting. I'm acting.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yes, we gotta take our first break for the evening
moves back.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
In just a second.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
All right, fam, we are bad and this week for
a category is semon, We're gonna do. We're gonna get
into everything Marquis, miss honey bear, if you will now
not just start following you, but I've done a deep
dive into your work and I live. I think you
are quite liberated with who you are, the content you create,
your fashion. I see you quiet bit with I see
you quiet bit bitch with the big bud press girl.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I live, baby, Oh, come on, come on now, yes, same,
I am. I am. I am also draped head to
mbbb baby oh press here.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
And they just called me poor because I got on Amazon,
but that's all right.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
And also your screen work girl.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
So I'm curious to us the first question, knowing that
people with our dandies have been made to not the liberated.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
We're other tools that have supported you and your thriving.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, I mean, thank you. I just so much of it.
Is just like I.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
I mean, I grew up you know, writing and in
the theater, and I grew up you know, super religious.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
I grew up as a Jehovah's witness and so did you.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yes, girl, locking doors have me with the tracks?

Speaker 6 (19:08):
Yeah, oh my god, I I was the secret weapon.
Unfortunately I was getting those tracks delivered. But like, you know,
I was just like, you know, in school, I couldn't
really make an impression because you're allowed to have these
friends who Aren'tjo's witnesses and you're allowed to really like
make yourself known. And so I felt and we really
grew up, you know, poor, and so I was constantly
with my mom in these drift stores and like I

(19:31):
felt like the only way to make an impression was
through fashion. And so you know, we've been to those stores,
popping tags, you know, getting like these really cute clothes,
and I felt like that was sort of my first
way to sort of express myself, like my queerness and
sort of you know, being those spaces. And also I
sort of felt like if I'm not allowed to have
friends outside of school, like the way to make them

(19:54):
remember me is to sort of make them laugh. And
so like fashion and laughter have always been sort of
my guiding star, and so growing up you know, writing
and doing theater and now where I'm doing these comedy videos,
doing stand up and filmmaking and also like you know,
pushing like a lot onto fashion. I feel like it's
sort of like the truest representation is sort of my

(20:14):
intersections of what I care about. Like, I feel like
I've been able to sort of, you know, find a
comedy in sort of you know, not giving a fuck
and also just being unabashedly.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
You know, black and queer, being out there and.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
I don't even think about sort of you know, what
I am doing. But then I'll get comments with people
who are like, you know, you were out here, show
them all the tavy, all the fupa everything, and you know,
people appreciate that, and I giving people that space because yeah,
I just sort of do it, and I just sort of,
you know, know that like whoever's gonna look, they're gonna look,

(20:50):
and I'm gonna get the attention that they want, and
the people are gonna the people who desired me will
desire me, and the people who don't I don't give
a fuck about, and so I sort of let that
be what guides me through whatever I'm pursuing.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
I love that so much because I think there's so
many of us who people live in our heads rent free,
even though we don't know who those people are. And
it's like you eat minten chip ice cream and then
you ain't but you don't you don't see it for me, like, like, what.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
What is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Girl?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
What is wrong you don't get?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, So I definitely I love that this idea of
like part of you reclaiming your liberation is being like,
I'm for who I'm for and if I'm not for you,
oh whale. And I think that that's kind of, you know,
one of the things that I've been really trying to
implement more into my own life. So hearing you say
that now in this moment, it's just reassuring a lot
of the stuff that I've been talking to my therapist about.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
So I love that.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
I did want to ask you one of the things
that I personally have been following you for a minute,
and I will say that a lot of your content
is just it's funny, but it's not funny in the
sense of, like I can tell you actively trying to
be funny A lot of what you're doing is it's
commentary on how outlandish social media can be. And I

(22:05):
love that Sometimes you'll say something really really important and
necessary and then you'll just serve. Literally, it's just kind
of like this thing of like make sure you go vote,
and then you like just you give the camera what
you need to give, Like it's a moment that's necessary
but also it's silly, but it's it's important. So all
that to be said, I think, you know, one of

(22:25):
the things I've always wanted to ask you on this
show is what made you think of that? Like it's
a slag and it shows off your style, but at
the same time, it also shows that you're very current
and you know what's going on and you're utilizing your
platform for better So, like I just I want to know,
like where did that thought come from?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Mm?

Speaker 6 (22:44):
So, I mean one this is gonna be the gas
that gets me through the week. Thank you so much
for all of them. Well, it's funny because I've been
making these videos for so long, like just comedy videos online,
and I feel like there's been a lot of videos
where I try to put all the bells and whistles.
I try to like make a script and I try
to really put a lot of production on it, and

(23:05):
I'm like, oh, this is the one, baby, They're gonna
eat this up. And then those videos don't go anywhere.
And then when I started doing these videos, which is
you know, me saying something very gay and sort of
doing almost like an anti joke of just like I'm
trying to teach you something informative, and I just stop
and pose I and then those are the ones that
sort of take off, and I think there's like I

(23:25):
sort of latched onto this idea. I'm just people don't
need things to be overly produced that people just want
to see, you know, absurdity and authenticity.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
And it's funny because these.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
Videos just started off with I had a cute fit
and I wanted to be outside. I wanted to get
a picture of it outside because my apartment has shitty lighting,
and so I went outside. I was looking for a
place like put up my phone, and I was like, oh,
I put on my phone right here on my apartment stairs.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
And then I was like, oh, what if I just
like record something like real dumb.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
And then ever since then it just sort of you know,
took off, and yeah, I mean, I feel like it's
I feel like there's just like a space that I
want to keep on carving out for. I guess, yeah,
black absurdity, black camp. I think we're also like really quick.
I think people are really quick to like a tribute

(24:16):
camp to anything, especially like anything that is like done
you know, in like a white mediocrity kind of way,
like people to attribute it. But I think then when
black people, especially black white people, also do these silly things,
we don't really pay them. Well, I pay them mind,
but I think a lot of people don't call it
like camp or absurd or don't think about it. It's

(24:38):
like sort of like a higher concept thing. They kind
of just like brushed aside. And so I kind of
just wanted to do something of those like like blatantly
like it's a commentary, but also having fun, not taking
it too serious, but also like you know, I wake
up and I think about, like how should I say this?
Did you know the gay people?

Speaker 4 (24:58):
And I'm like workshopping it all the way.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
It's all film, and so yeah, I don't know, I
think it's silly, and I wanted something that just sort
of makes people happy and also I get to sort
of show people that I am this person. It feels
like the sort of truest representation of my little brain.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
So yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Also you know, I do think I think like the
way like how it happens is that it also does
like lead people to just like look something up as
well too, like like there's one way there's one of them.
We're like, did you know that twelve.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Percent of black folks?

Speaker 7 (25:32):
And now like people are like, okay, Google told mysel
black folks what they're like, Yeah, black folks like to
fos do Like right, do you did you know the homosexuals.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Like people then google homo sexuals.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Like I think it's like, I think it's quite genius,
like like like right, like it's like I think the
idea of the educational joke is also funny because then
people like probably will get down the own number holes.
But then she might learn something as well too that
might and also like and like it's like they may
like consciously learn to themselves, but also subconsciously like they're
like they're seeing a beautiful big black body, like they

(26:08):
got space and sleigh fashion as well too. I think
that is that is so greatly you are teaching people
something in that way as well too, and and like
it's and I love that you said black camp and
never a thought like You're right, I would not thought
of it as like, oh like like like black camp.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Like it's true, like we attribute camp.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
We I mean, like, but one thing of camp I'm
gonna think of either drag race or I want to
think of like Byma cheer Leader. Can't the the you know,
the the movie camp like white lead things. I also
love I like love that, like you said, because that
because now I'm like my vocal stem now will be
when I like, like if I if I'm a friend,
I'm like, did you know that.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Mm hmm, you serve in a moment that serve baby,
it just serves, so I fucking love and I live.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
I was gonna say, to your point, and we again,
we were talking about this in the last segment, to
your point, I think that's a big reason why and
I say this in a lot of episodes if you
go there, I'm sure Chris could do a whole entire
episode of be just saying all roads lead back to
drag race. But if we go back to talking about
drag race, one of the things that I felt the
reason why people didn't get Nina Bonina was because she

(27:14):
was camp and because so much of her was like
the quintessential black queer camp. And I think that's the
thing I love about your content is that you're feeding
into this canon of Really it's kind of the same
way I love black people who do horror, Like that's
the reason why I intentionally follow miss Tacosta, Like, that's
the reason why I'm real, real, you know, really big

(27:36):
and help bent on watching black horror movies and things.
It's because I know that there's no other black people
doing it. And so it's kind of the same way
with black camp. Like I love that you use that
as a term because I think it's a real thing
and it's something that's often overlooked. But yeah, yeah, I
mean absolutely.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
And I also look at the queens on drag Race
who are like theater queens and are doing campy things. Yeah,
and they're getting paid dust like Apple is just on
your nerve, Yeah, on your nerve is a very so
toime to do it, and to do it in theater
and people pay her such dust. But then you'll see

(28:11):
a white theater queen do these things and not even
hating on them, but it's just there is such a
complete double standard and we all know why, and you know,
so it's just I want I want to see you know,
us being able to be silly and having recognized as
being silly, but also high concept and something that is
like intentional, because yeah, we're often not attributed to that.

(28:34):
I think people don't think that we're doing things intentionally,
and we are. We We're smart enough to know like
how comedy works and the critical thinking behind it, and
so I hope that people, you know, can give us
the same credit.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
And one more thing to add to that, I'm sorry
you just you hit on a really I would say
a reallye thing. I'm actually very I've been thinking a
lot about someone had I forget who it was, someone
had said on threads, if you want to know, if
you really want to be a good comedian, study a
black household, like coming from a black household is the
raws form of comedy. And so I think that that's

(29:07):
the other thing that people don't get about black people specifically,
is the reason why you can sit with a group
of black people and hear them laughing without someone saying
anything is because everything around us is about comedic timing,
our comedic timing for everything is oh my godness.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
So, like, if you really study black comedians, they will
tell you I grew up in this household, and it
will literally look the same in so many homes. Our
homes are like my family, Me and my brother can
just look at each other and bust up laughing because
we know what we're laughing about. Or my brother will
say something and I'll bust up laughing because I know
it's a black thing.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
It's a very black household thing.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
And so I just wanted to say that I think,
you know, a lot of people don't like the and
I think that's one of the reasons why a lot
of the black girls don't get the credit they deserve
is because people recognize that they are funnier, that a
lot of their comedy is smart her and ultimately it
is something that you don't understand because you just don't
get it, you know.

Speaker 6 (30:05):
So yeah, I think so much of the rebuke of
giving like black people their flowers and comedy is feeling
like they're not in on the joke, like inherently that
inherent sort of timing that we're built with, And oh
my god, I'm going to think about that for so long,
because yeah, I I like, I have three brothers and
I have my mom, and they're just the funniest people
I've ever met. And it's just whenever I like, you know,

(30:27):
hang out with my you know friend, my black friends,
like we just can have that look and so and
then like somebody.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Saying something crazy, we just look at each other and
it's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
I also love these that because I literally I had
I was having dinner with with with two friends last
night and one of them I was telling her like
like I was like, I was like the way you
say things, the way like it's your kidence, your ad
diction and like what you say and by by Like
I was like, you have perfect commitit timing.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Like I'm looking, I'm looking over here, I want to
look at this way.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Girl.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Like I was like, like.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
You know, like I was like, girl, you have stupid
you have perfect comedic timing. Like that's what it is,
because like right and and like she was like she
was like she was like, you know, I'm a little
witty bitty sometimes Yeah, it's just like it's like it's
like like her facial expressions like I think about her

(31:32):
is like and you know and like you know she
she she she's from Atlanta, and like she's from this
deeply black place and like and I appreciate you naming
and like raising up like that really is like I
think this true setting black comedy is kind of a match.
Like when I think of I think of like comedy people.
I'm never thinking of white person. I am thinking I'm
I'm thinking. I'm thinking Maryan Lawrence, I'm thinking Eddie Murphy,

(31:54):
I'm the Vagina Hall.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Like I'm thinking black black comics.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Some people like me funny, like as black folks, and
so I like, I just say, I love love love that.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
You say that so much, and also want to name
fat black queer are not queer but black comedians. I'm
thinking Lavelle Crawford. I'm thinking Bruce Bruce. Like there's a
certain element Monique Monique when she was chubbier, right, Like
there's a certain funny that's there that you can't that
you can't you literally can't say, doesn't exist, you can't. Yeah,

(32:26):
it's just it's a lived experience.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
It's being in the intersections of being black and on
top of that, fat and on top of that maybe queer.
It's just when you have so many different ways that
the world is perceiving you and you have no choice
but to be perceived in that way, you just find
a comedy in it.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
You find a comedy all the ways humor or die.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
It really is funnier die and like and like, I'd
rather be funny than die girl, Like, it's just yeah, okay, markus,
I want to get into something. I want to like
shift gears a little bit for us, because you are
mister Barry twenty twenty three, right bear being an archetcl
of gay culture. I don't think we've talked enough and
on the show about the bear community, and I've definitely

(33:06):
been shy of it myself as well too, Like we like.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
We we don't always get get into like the.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Spicy topics here, and so I want to know how
how have you found yourself and the bear been the
bear identity? What's your relationship like with sexuality as a bear,
like things sex and desirable, because I think that's also
a colosation that we don't have so much on the show,
But I know like that is also more listeners too,
like and us like asking for a friend and myself

(33:32):
Like how like you just like like they share about
that within who you are and all the things.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
Yeah, I mean absolutely. I mean I've been big and small,
big and small my whole life. Like I was, you know,
a small kid, and then I got, you know, become
a big kid, and I dislocated both my hips because
I was like a bigger kid and I have a
screwiny chip and so I got smaller after that, and
then the pandemic happened, and then I got bigger and
then it stuck and I really liked it.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
And before that, I mean I.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
Was really small and had like an eating disorder and
it was just like it was really like a lot.
And now I've come to a place where I really
love being like a bigger guy. And you know, also
I'm a really big advocate for like, you know, being
bigger does not equate to being unhealthy, Like I go
to the gym four times a week, Like I don't
feel unhealthy. But I love being a bigger guy. But

(34:23):
I think, yeah, as a bear, like it's.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Been quite a journey.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
Like I definitely did not consider myself a bear for
the longest time because I was just.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Like that is a white gate keeping community.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Like this is something where I felt.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Feel a part of it.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
And so you know, that was sort of me and Seattle,
where I didn't really feel like there was like a
strong centralized bear community and like it wasn't you know,
anything but white. And so when it came out to La,
you know, I started to see more people you know,
you know, black and brown people and black brown people
of size, and then I just competition for mister bear

(35:01):
La and the main thing I was just like I
want to show some looks. So I was like if
I went, well, if I don't, I can show some looks, right,
and in general, like I won that, and I feel
like things really sort of change for me. But overall,
like my journey's been, you.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Know, a mixed bag. Like I think people.

Speaker 6 (35:21):
Accept me, especially now because like I just like I
am who I am and I don't apologize for you
know that, like I am a bear, but like you know,
I'll always get videos on or get comments on my
videos saying like you know, you're not a bear?

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Where's the hair? This?

Speaker 2 (35:39):
This? That?

Speaker 6 (35:40):
And the thing is it's like okay, some people attribute
like bearhood to hair. Sure, but like I see so
many like white bears who were completely smooth, and people
would never be like, you're not a bear, like they
you're not a bear. Two black bears, so two you know,
brown bears, and so you know, there's this whole thing.

(36:03):
And then sometimes like when I'm in the spaces of
you know, going to like these big bear parties, like
you know, the travel parties, like the ones in Palm
Springs or wherever, you know, I feel really liberated in
those spaces because I'm like, people are out here for me,
They're out here for people's size. But sometimes I'm like,
oh wait, i feel like I'm not getting really checked
on because I'm like, oh, maybe I don't have enough hair,
maybe I'm like you know two this and that, But

(36:25):
in general, like I feel like I have I'm very
much big on like what is for me is for me.
If you don't desire me, then that is not going
to be a chip on my shoulders. Like I am
not seeking the people who do not seek me. But
I think as a bear, I definitely yeah, it's been
a journey and I still feel like I meet so
many like black bears who don't feel like they belong

(36:48):
and I'm not going to sort of be like, oh, yeah,
the back community is completely welcoming because it's not not
inherently or at least not like on a completely you know,
modelithic level. But I mean, you know, I even like
made a party out and I like called Blackbird Joe
because specifically I was like, I want us to feel
sexy and unapologizing these spaces. And so I guess all

(37:10):
it is to say, it's been like a big old journey.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
I feel confident more than anything, but I definitely have.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
My off days.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
But yeah, I mean I do. I do feel like
is the alternative being a twink.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
I can't do that. I don't want to do that. Yeah,
not anything, not for.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Me, babes, not for me. Yes, it's not for me, babes.
I live, I live.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
That is very much the way I'm feeling these days.
I'm like, y'all want me to do what you want
me to eat like a rabbit, so you can so
you can find me desirable. Girl, Please, ain't nobody, don't
get the fuck out, and I'm not doing any of it.
I'm a girl, Please, I ain't got time for it.
But I love that you say that. And I also
love that you mentioned the idea that and this is

(37:58):
something that I've I've I feel like we've tiptoed around
the show. But we also like, I think it's important
to name as much as the the community, and I
think people it's funny that people are always so shocked
when we talk about this. The community is so quote
unquote inclusive, is very exclusive, and a big part of
that is who is deemed like attractive when we start

(38:22):
talking about bears and otters and and pigeons and all
of that. Like it literally when we start talking about
all the different titles that are in in the community, right,
who gets to own those those titles and ultimately who
gets who gets to where those titles with pride?

Speaker 3 (38:37):
So, you know, you bring up a really interesting point
because so they're like, there's this event called bear Night
that happens every so often in many bill crests and
and the past few times I have not gone myself yet,
so maybe it's gotta turn. But the past few times
people friends have gone, they've been like, maybe where are
the bears? Like like like like we just see we
just see Harry Twings and like this is not Harry.

(39:02):
If like, if I want to if I want to
be here, I'd ask for that, but it's not who
I'm asking for.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Like like like bitch, like I like I want the bear,
right and like I I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
It's like the people who maybe want the bears are there,
but like you know, but it's kind of like that,
like like it's like when it's like when someone made
like the the basic diagram of like queer spaces, right
of like how are you you have a quers pace
like straight girls to to to a queer space? Then
then then then there's straight boarfriends or men come and
then the quip are ran out, the girls up coming,

(39:40):
and the guys stop coming, and then it's an empty
blank space and business closes down, and then he just
like where do we go now?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Right, like this is what happened.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
This is what happened, like with with with with the bear,
with the with the bear spaces, like there are no
bear traps now everyone's out here trying to catch a bear.
But bitch, there are no bears to be caught because
you you pushed them all out of our space.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
So I'm like, I.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
Mean there's an event out here called there's an event
out here called bears in space, and we always joke
like there are no bears in that space.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
They're all there all.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I go.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
I'm literally like indger, like the only well not like
I'm one of a very few people who have an
actual like pupa big guys and apart was also like,
if you're going to advertise your a vent as like
a bear vat big boy event, then if they're like,
if there's like a ratio of too many people who
are like skinny in there, you should let the bears

(40:36):
get in for free.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
You should let the big boys get in for free.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Because about what's the point of us, Like if you
don't want yeah, like why why why even come? I
want to suggest sign now to to the the bar.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
That should be in free. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
If we got gatekeeper is girl, I'll gate keep right now.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Amen. If if if you can't, if you can't swing
a tit towards me, you're not a bearing get out. Yeah. Please.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
This is if your shorts do not disappear when you sit.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Down, okay, if you're if your thighs an't harmonizing, baby.

Speaker 6 (41:12):
If you have if you thighs aren't harmonizing, If you
don't have to push the table forward.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
When you go to scoot, you are.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
If you've been into a booth perfectly bitch, bitch, this
is this is not the space for you. Hur quality.

Speaker 6 (41:30):
I was at the fanciest like French restaurant in New
York City this past weekend and I was like, oh,
this is really pretty. I got sat down, like sucked in.
I was like yeah, and they're like, we're gonna, you know,
come back for you. Wait a second, I'm like okay.
They left as soon as they were like in the clear.
I was like, you gotta push the push that table forward,
push that table forward.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Baby.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
When I see a booth that is like, that is
like second the ground like you hate a bit.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Can we just get a record table? Please? Thank you girl.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
You give me a chair, Give me a chair, and
not the high chair either.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
I'm not trying to sit at nobody's high tair.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
Yes, it's ugly. Gravity is not meant for us in
that regarden. That's okay, Yeah, put me at a record
table please.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yes. That is so that is so real, it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
So so we are going to close out this segment
with a silly question. Now you call yourself the honeybeer,
But there are several types of honey out there.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
I wanted to ask you what's your flavor?

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Mama?

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Are you an orange blossom?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Buckwheat? Are you.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
That is a kind I guess of of of honey?

Speaker 4 (42:46):
So are you two pins? Can you defined?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Not like explodes?

Speaker 4 (42:58):
I love that? Literally?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Two palow honey? Yeah? The Calaca honeys Caney.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Is a rare pinion honey known as cadillacs of honey,
produced in Florida. So, yes, what type of honey would
you call yourself?

Speaker 6 (43:14):
I mean I've had like a really good like BlackBerry
honey before, okay, okay, and like I might go with that,
but also orange blossom sounds really really good. Yes, I
mean in general, I'm like I I will go with
orange blossom. I was like Blackberr's little bit tart, and
I am like a very sweet kind of guy in
a sense of like I'm very sensitive.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I'm a pi through.

Speaker 6 (43:38):
Very sensitive, Like I I will always like advocate for myself,
like I'm always gonna stand for myself. But after I
do whatever confrontation radvocacy I need to do for myself,
I will go in my room and just like start
shaking I'm I'm not for confrontation. I'm built to be
held fed and have the tap paid for. So like
I'm gonna go with like an orange blossom. I think
that that is like sweet, you must know my husband.

(44:01):
Accept You've got to know my husband because my husband
is the same way. My husband is very much through
and through every single definition of a pisce. So yes,
very much, you are both.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
What's your birthday if you mind me asking, March seventh,
He's March ninth. So y'all are right in the same window,
like I mean in general, like I have fun with
you know, horoscopes. I try to not take him too serious,
but also like I'm a pisces.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Down like.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Serious, like, listen, people, if people can believe, if if
let you know, if the I want to.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Say, I'm gonna say it, if they can believe in
Jesus in the Bible, they you can believe in the horoscope.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Not too exactly, yes, if you can believe.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
In this white man who you believe is gonna grant
you salvation, you can believe in a horoscope. I'm sorry,
I feel like and I'm gonna as I stand on that.

Speaker 6 (44:54):
Yes, so wait, what what are your signs. I have
to know I'm so.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
I'm a Leo. So I'm a true Leo.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
I'm a July twenty ninth new And I hate I
hate that everyone says that because I personally don't feel
like I'm I know some Leo's who are absolutely terrible,
and I've done work to not be that kind of Leo.
So I pray that's one of the one people like
I knew you were Leon fuck because I remember terrible,
but you.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Think you're terrible? Who's Who's actually who's actually terrible? Here?
Get out of here? Get out of here?

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Means my mom is a Leo. So I am an
ally to the Leo community. See, I hate it here.
Why could I be born a virgo? This really pisses
me off. But no, I have think my so I know,
but I think my house, it's one of the houses
is a virgo, or that the house is a virgo.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
And then I know one of my moons is Sagit terrorists,
So such a terror yes, So no, I've had some
bad sages.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
But you know what, Like I love the vibes of
the energy. Yeah, I went side cancer moon virtile rising, Okay,
And so I feel like I'm very watery, and then
the virgo.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Kind of like bounces it out all of that. Yeah,
so I'm in somebody's house. My dearest friends is sagetarist.
I'm sorry calling the massagetarians sagittarists. My mom is one,
and I say it all the time. Is a true sagittarist,
one of the most wage but they wage war.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
They do wage war for no reason.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
And this is actually in the room with me right now,
and I'm staring at him, say this.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
They are your cat. Okay, what.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
About you said your cat was a sagittarist. No, not,
that's all about the time. Your friend, my friend, my friend?
Is it your cat?

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Sometimes the cool.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Cat wa I signed as my keys? Oh, I know
you're signing. What is your sign?

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Are you a torres?

Speaker 1 (47:08):
No?

Speaker 6 (47:09):
Oh oh wait, okay, more guests. Are you Capricorn? That's
my mood and my rising Oh and then I'm gonna
say cancer.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
A libra libra, I love a Lira, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
And I am I am a libra down as all
too like, I'm a Libra down. It's the only aeron
I have is libra. But I'm also very cap with
my moon rising. I'm very cap for sure as well too,
but like you love you love that balance, baby, I
love I talked ship as much as I give help.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I'm like, I'm like, here you get get dumb, bitch.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
That part that part.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
One.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
One thing I will say about Jordan is Jordan will
cut you out while helping you, and I appreciate that
because sometimes you need.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I love very body, very like your dumb as fuck.
Don't call the police, call me.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
I'll help you.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
While as we're doing I'm like, you're so annoying that
you could you have me wear your body right now?
I'm getting I'm getting dirting my nails right now for
this bullshit. I can't stand it. I'm I'm like, just
it is very important to me also, so it's being
pretty and looking and like looking cute, having cute fashions,
have my nails done. Like I'm very interesthetic, but I'm
also very into make sure people have a total you

(48:24):
to survive.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
And thrive in the world. So yeah, anyway, it's not
ready to pop.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
There Kouchi in the mirror with a little honey glaze
of the orange blossom booty.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
We got to take our second break. Can we come back,
we get to what's happen Senter.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Okay, fam, we are black and we're gonna get into
some popular news type ish.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Today we are in a world where so.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Many things are underfire, Sabrina Carpenter, Door Ice to mar
to maryor Mawori.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
And the Bumm and Bruises store.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Let's talk about it. Let's particularly talk thinking me that bitch,
and let's particularly talk about.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Moral high ground and mamas like these.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
It demonstrates and it's the moments girl, moments like these.
It's you know, like it's it's it's demonstrations and discussions
of oh I don't do that, but like you do
you girl type shit, you know, and sometimes sometimes I
hate it. Sometimes I do do it myself. And so
I guess I'm curious to ask, like, what are y'all's

(49:33):
thoughts on these things? What do you stand on business
for just something not that deep for you?

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Right?

Speaker 3 (49:39):
How do you feel these moments interact with our black
and corners as well too? So I'll begin and like
like you like like like I like, I'll go through.
I'll go like the list in which I had laid
out here right like Coachella. It's something for me that
I think. I sometimes feel like a bit like a
moral high ground on like I'm like, I'll never pay
for Cochella. I would never get pay one because it
sounds like lot exhaustly and and I'm like the owner

(50:00):
of this place literally does not want to see this
when he wants to vote us out of the world,
like this man is black, Like I hate it.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
If they if if they paid me to.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Go, I even went. I went a talent last year
and it was awful.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
They know what, You're right, You're right, you did and
you did so I'm like, maybe.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
It was terrible, it was it was hot, dirty. I
just I hated it. I hated everything. Only if my.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Airbnb is paid for too, like do not have me?
Do I have a campground? Because I was like, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Like like like like like I feel like I feel
like like.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
There's really much. I'm like, I want to go to
see it, but I'm not spending a single cent.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
If they're paying for it, then I would check it
out for sure. I mean like, but I mean I
will say, like when it comes to Chella, it does
not seem appealing to be doing all that. But also
what can I say because I'm about to be going
to e DC for the first time.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Wow, So we'll see how that.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Goes, you know exact well, yeah, like I.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Get right, I mean you know, I mean like I like,
I don't think I can would go over a year,
Like I'm like, I would go just to experience.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
But what like what the hype it's all about?

Speaker 3 (51:11):
You know?

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Okay? Next to Siprian Carpenter.

Speaker 6 (51:14):
I mean it's also like it was also like, I mean,
going to an event that I'm paying for in which
I have to like do cardio to prepare to be
standing all day for three days straight.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
I'm not built for paying for this.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
If I like, shoulder to shoulder to shoulder, who do
not care?

Speaker 3 (51:37):
However, that I hate your guts like I is not
not fun. I So yeah, so that same with the
same with Sibery Carpenter.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
I I think I think she got caught in the moment.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
I genuinely think she just got the moment.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
I think, like I I like, I'm like, girl, I.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Think you were trying.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
You're trying to be a bit too funny and you're
should Yeah, I think like like folks, who am at her?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I do?

Speaker 3 (52:10):
I do think like I don't think it was at
Warranton like peop would be met her by it, and
like like I think absolutely absolutely a teachable moment and
maybe like maybe girl asked question and like you know,
like versus like like like like and like don't you
say She's like I don't like it, Like clearly you
can't hear very well from the stage, so just yeah,

(52:32):
shut him, just like just like girl.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
But that also I'll let her have that one.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Yeah, that one, I mean she's on Yeah, that one,
she's on local Cell stage.

Speaker 6 (52:42):
I don't know what it's like hearing up there, like
in general, like yeah, and her track records seems she kind.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Of demonstrate, like her a lot of ally ship in
so many ways, like we don't need to like cruise
if I heard just yet, not just now.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
But I'm watching, but I'm watching, watch, we are watching her.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
I'm watching her in my eyes. Are watching door Dash
as well too.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Because she's written up, written up, she's great.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
She has a pink slip. She has a pink slip
right now.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Her and DoorDash, not because not because of themselves, but
because of Doordash's response to what happened with the whole
personage like, I'm like, y'all, wait, I missed this one.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Can you all explain to me? Like what?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
So, from what I know, and producer Joy please correct
me if I'm wrong, But from what I understand about
the whole door Dash of it all is that they
ran a campaign and it had the woman going to
the President's door, and I guess the whole conversation of
it was it was supposedly had something to do with
attacks for people who do who work basically who work

(53:53):
for door Dash or do what's the work that they
call it. It's a specific type of work because it's
not I want to say gimmick, but that's not the
right word.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
What do they call it?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Gig?

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Thank you? Gig work? It was supposed to be. The
whole idea was for them to be kind of basically
saying this tax is going to help people who do
gig work and so. But but for me, where it
lost me was having this woman deliver food to the
president is knowing what he stands for and knowing what
he has said and knowing what he is doing to

(54:28):
harm so many people who are doing gig work. That
for me is where the problem lies. And so then
I guess door Dash doubled down on it by putting
out like another they put out another statement and it
was it felt very right winging. It just it felt
very much like they were leaning into the right wing
of it all.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
It was it was stage for this girl to be
the delivery.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
She is a marig Republican and she.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Was there just to like speak about the no tax
on tips such and so like like none of it
was actually real. And also like Trump's own like words
like this field stage doesn't like like he will he
he made he made it disillusioned. But then but then
Dot's response was like of course there was a stage
and like all these things and it's like girl, like

(55:16):
we like we all knew that, but like like I
think to that point it then show it like shows
a stance for a company that should not have the
stands like right and one yeah and two, like a
majority of the work is on door Dash or asking
for important things like benefits or they're they're asking for
like you know for like for like like insurance, like

(55:37):
higher insurances, or like like gat like gas incentives and
so doing this little gimmick like did nothing for the
company and just makes it all seem feel worse.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Yeah, and it basically it really backfired. That's basically what
happened backfired.

Speaker 6 (55:52):
So, I mean, I feel like we're I mean, in
twenty twenty six, any sort of ad campaign that like
aims to like quirkify Trump.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
What are we doing? Like, it's just we're so many, I.

Speaker 6 (56:04):
Mean are I mean so many these companies are obviously
for Trump. But it's like, if you are trying to
like objectively get your product across, how do you even
think that like Trump's involvement is going to like boost
your product. Obviously the right wing there's so much money
to be had there. But it's like, if you're trying
to like actually do some advocacy for better wages and
all that, you want Trump's face like in the ad,

(56:28):
you want like a gimmicks surrounding Trump is.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Really right, And that's that's the gag. The gag was, Yeah,
very that. It's very much giving that I think.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
So.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
So you're asking some really good questions, Jordan, And I
think you know one of the things that I have,
like this whole spiel that I wrote down and I'm
going to try to get through it as quickly as possible.
You know, I think the thing that I'm becoming more
and I hate that I'm having to become more comfortable
with it. But I think seeing all of this here,
like even just in the past three weeks, you know,
there's been so many things that have come out about

(57:01):
certain celebrities and it's like, yo, like we're starting to
recognize that a lot of celebrities are terrible people. And
again they have to be terrible to maintain the money
and the celebrity that they have. And so I think
for me, it's like as an American having to really
come to terms with that a lot of everything we

(57:21):
take in, we use, we buy is rooted in some
form of oppression or it's problematic. Yes, Like that's something
that I think we all have to kind of grapple with.
I mean you can and I wrote all these things
down because they really speak to me.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Right.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
So, like Apple, you can say is rooted and trying
to treat their employees well, but they are also still
pulling cobalt was it cobalt from not coal mines? Right,
So like that's a problem. Right, everyone's saying that that's
an issue because people are dying over that. You can
say target and Walmart are terrible, but so are the
folks over at Kroger's and the Pigli whigly because they
voted for Trump. Right, So like, I'm like, there's there's

(57:58):
still like, unless you're rumpel Stiltskin and you can create
all of your own stuff, there's no way to get
away from how problematic systems of capitalism it is. Slash are,
And we've talked about this left and right on this show, right, Like,
I mean as much as even for me, right, Like
I love a good Louis bag, but at the same time,
I have to think to myself, who made this bag?

(58:20):
It probably was made in a place where these people
probably only made ten, you know, ten dollars for the
entire time that they were on the clock. So like
I have to take that in, right, But I think
the biggest thing for me is like, for whatever judgment
you pass with someone else, I'm sure someone else can
pass judgment on you.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
Am I gonna go to Coachella? Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
I think it's terrible, But the same people who are
going to Coachella probably would judge me for going to
Starbucks McDonald's. Because one, I love Starbucks because it's simple
and it's easy and it's quick, and I know their
menu and the same thing with McDonald's. I know what's there.
I know what I'm gonna get every time I get it.
There's no surprises, right, So I mean you can say
that up and down, but will you ever catch me

(58:59):
at a Chick fil a ap? Not because our food
is nasty, but I love Urbi's right. So like we
can go back and forth for days about what's what's
good and what's not, But I think the biggest thing
right now is just this this game.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
What are you?

Speaker 4 (59:12):
I mean, there's no there's no ethical consumption, but.

Speaker 6 (59:16):
Like we're consuming beings like we're we have to consume,
and so it's kind of just like it's to each
their own like due diligence. But also like if a
company is actively speaking on your downfall and like wants
to eradicate you, is that chicken sandwich really that good?

Speaker 2 (59:33):
It's not?

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Yeah, no, elemande, is that good?

Speaker 2 (59:39):
We ask a question right of like blackness and queens.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
I also think like the pressure on folks of color
and black folks especially and queer folks like to act
differently is so much higher, and I like it's hard
because like you're not saying like I joke, like I
swore gay rights and gay wrongs like if like if gay,
I know several gays who go chipil. I'm like, I

(01:00:03):
don't understand why. I really wish you would not do that,
but like a girl, it's like like like we all
should we like we all pick our poison in some ways,
and what you need to do, yeah and so and
you know it's like like I like like like like
like like I said, like I participate in the like
I wouldn't do that, but like you do you, But
I'm trying, like I'm striving to to like adjust that

(01:00:25):
sentiment because I also like like I don't want to
compromplate some moral high ground either because to your point, Mark,
he is like there is no ethical consumption and like
in this world whether we in which we exist like and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
In that same thing, like I also if I know
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Responsible for what like for like for like what capitalism
is doing around me, I can't expect my friends to
have that as well too, or people I care about
in love, as much as I may want them to
or want them to think definitely or kindly right. I
also I also have to find myself. Like we're all
just trying to make it. And I think as platforms,
quirre folks like especially we're especially just trying to make
it and survive.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
And so like if that's si, chi can say much
joy girl like for it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
I have I have colleagues, calories, Yeah, I have college
eat Chick fil A down And it's just I don't
say nothing about it. I mean, we're a queer organization
and I see them coming in with Chick fil A
cups and I'm like, you know I could, but ultimately
that's show money, Like, that's that's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Where you're putting as some as or dollars are going
to that, right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Don't don't do don't do a company lunch on it,
don't right, don't cater Chick fil A for our company.
That's my big thing. But if you want to take
your heart earned money and go there, go for it.
I I just I'm in a place right now where
I'm even and I would I would even say, and
again this is probably why a lot of people probably
keep trying to cancel me. I would even say, you
not buying that product is not going to really change much, right,

(01:01:46):
Like you not you and I'm not talking about everyone, right,
if we collectively want to rise up like we did
against Target, I get that. I get it, and and
I'm also one of those people that I have not
been in the Target. I can't tell you the last
time I've been in the Target. But I'm saying, like,
if you want to collectively say we're going to stand
against this and we're gonna do this, John, you want

(01:02:07):
to join in, okay, sure, But what I'm saying is
is that if you're collectively saying Coachella is terrible and
what and you're not going, you gotta know a million
other people are gonna go, and there's nothing you can
do about it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
And so just don't support it, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I mean, that's really what it comes down to, Like
use your money where everybody, Yes, where you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Put your money is where you put your money.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
And when you don't and you don't, that's it. I
will say about the Target thing real quick.

Speaker 6 (01:02:28):
It's funny because I was, like, you know, I did
a commercial for Target shot it back in like December,
right before that stuff happened, and it was really cute.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
It was for Black History Month. It was like Michael B.
Jordan's company.

Speaker 6 (01:02:41):
It was like an all black pass and crew and
I was like, oh my god, I love it here,
this is what it's all about. And then the target
bullshit happened the DEI and then they were like immediately
like it's time to drop the commercial, Like they like,
wet unto their executive, let's drop the commercial right now.
That ship dropped right out of the guys. Have happened

(01:03:02):
all of us black folk. And I was like, I
don't even want to promote it. And my manager was like, yeah,
got a and so and the option. I was like,
thank you so much to the cost and crew for
this commercial that I shot in December before the last year. Yes, before, yes, before,
and again.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
He just we gotta know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I mean, that's also part of me that that understands it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
I know someone would probably want to quote unquote cancel
you for that, but the reality of the matter is
is you you gotta you gotta pay your bills and
sometimes and that's that's the other conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
Like the influencers who went, you know, there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Were some more.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
All those Starbucks girls who went to went to Coachella
on Starbucks dimes, yet they probably got paid a pretty
big bag to go and so like in this in
this climate like that, I guess what I'm really trying
to say is that there a lot of this is nuanced.
There's so many nuances in the ways that we think
about moral high grounds, and none of us gonna make

(01:03:57):
it out of here live. Like, That's the thing I
have to keep remind to myself, Like, all this time
and energy you're putting towards judging someone else for what
they're doing with their money, none of us gonna make
it out of here with that money. So you know, again,
if if I think there's a fine line between people
being very terrible people and doing very very terrible things
and outwardly saying I'm doing this terrible thing because I

(01:04:18):
like it, versus somebody saying this was brought to me.
I did this in December, the check cleared in January,
and they dropped it in February. There's nothing I can do,
you know.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
So I'm much more about people's like advocacy versus their consumption.
What are you saying, what are you buying?

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Because yeah, yeah, I live. I live for this conversation.
I have this much more that we could say, oh,
you gotta take one of the last people forget to
everyone's favorite segment. So while you get ready to cancel
John or Marquis, girls, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Amazing apology for you right now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Prep I say, canceled them lines where I am we'll
take in that case, it will take a quick break
while they prepare for their apology tours.

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
Your favorite satement. He's been to my PAMs and justice set,
all right, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
So this week we're gonna jump into our yes ma'am
and our no man PAMs, and I am going to
just start off and for again for those who are new,
here are yes ma'am and are no mammas. Where we
celebrate something or ultimately we break something down or we you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Know, talk shit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Just literally this is just a spot for us to
really go off about things that we just ain't seeing
it for. So this week I have a very quick one.
I so I've been saying this and I think people
think I'm kidding when I say this. I literally live
one street over from the warehouse that burnt down. I
actually woke up the morning that it was that it

(01:05:52):
all happened. I could actually see the fire trucks and
the flames and all of the stuff from my third
floor of my part because it woke us up, and
so all of that to being said, Yes, we live
very very close to where that first warehouse happened, and
at the time, I was like, what the hell, But
then as things started to kind of unfold, I'm starting

(01:06:13):
to understand what it was about and why it happened.
So I I want to say this. I I'm very
i have a very interesting relationship with the word violence,
and I'm going to talk about that in just a second,
but I was gonna say I definitely want to shout
out to the folks who are who are kind of
taking a page out of Luigi's book. And I don't
want to say that killing someone is the right thing

(01:06:34):
or burning a building down is the right thing, because
ultimately there are safety precautions in that. Right you're harming
someone's family, you're harming you're you know, you could be
harming your coworkers. Someone could have been killed in that. Yes,
like there there is a way, And I want to
make sure I make it very clear. I come from
the mind of doctor King and also Malcolm X. Where
when you are basically when you are when you're protesting

(01:06:56):
or you're making a statement, it has to be calculated,
and so I want to say that the folks who
are working calculated lee, even if that's a word. I
want to shout those people out because they're ultimately showing
these billionaires and these people with a lot of money
in their pocket that we're sick of it. And I
say we're sick of it as people who are out here.

(01:07:18):
You know, I'm a very craftive, creative person, and I
still work very hard to even just have the little
bit of joy in my creativity that I have from
the podcast or to be able to write. I still
have a full time job, and I have to because
if I don't have a full time job, I can't
pay my bills. Creativity is not allowing me to pay
my bills, and I know that because of the way

(01:07:39):
the system is set up. So I want to shout
out those people who are pushing back on these millionaires
and these billionaires and are telling them, y'all got us
fucked up. And so again I'm not saying that that
man went about it the right way. What I am
saying is that he got a point. He had a point,
and I want to make sure that I uplift that
point and saying that celebrity millionaire and billionaires are not

(01:08:00):
going to be the ones that save this. I will
say this too while I'm on my soapbox. It pisss
me off. This is kind of me moving into my nomnpam.
It pisses me off that while I have friends who
are online starting gofundmeans to be able to take care
of their food, you know, food expenses, their rent at
friends saying I haven't been able to pay rent for
two and a half months because I can't find a job.
All these people that I know who are struggling, you have,

(01:08:22):
and I'm gonna just say it, Kylie Jenner who's celebrating
her twenty five million dollar home in the desert that
she goes to only for Coachella, that shit pisss me off.
It pisses me off that there's all of these people
that are pushing back against these these people who are
wanting to build small cities pretty much small cities, affordable cities,

(01:08:43):
and they're saying, oh, I don't want that in my
community because it's going to bring in people who are
quote unquote unsavory. That shit pisses me off and Ultimately,
I'm seeing it more and more and it's just something
that's really getting under my skin. So I'll sale that
to say into my NOMNPAM. The folks who are saying
violence doesn't solve anything, the fuck it don't. Because when
you lose over five hundred and thirty million dollars worth

(01:09:06):
of product, I'm sure some execs somewhere had to stop
and say, I think we need to do something different
here because.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
The math ain't Mathew and girl.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
So I'm just that's just the point that I'm taking
is like, ultimately, sometimes violence does work. And like I said,
in the case of Luigi, you'll never get me to
say he should be jailed because I didn't see him
do it. That's literally my thing is this business that
ain't none of my business? Right, Like, I wasn't there.
I didn't see him at no McDonald So how do
I know who is he?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Right with me? I was cooking.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
Maybe I was looking up in the kitchen three scrambled eggs, greed.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yes, I was in the kitchen making breakfast for Luigi Montion.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
I don'ts on the Collegewalking YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Yeah, was watching watching drag Race, the Storch History up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
He wasn't no McDonald's. He don't even eat.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
But but I'm just yes, yes, yes, but he would
never be a McDonald's. But no, I al I say
look that to say that violence sometimes it may not
solve something, but at least it's waking some ship up.
Because there have been eleven warehouses that have been burnt

(01:10:33):
down in the last week and a half. I'm not
saying that look Stonewall, the Compton Cafeteria riots, right, Sometimes
what doctor King say violence is the voice of those
who are unhurt. So we we've got to stop and
look now because people are burning ship down because they're

(01:10:54):
saying I'm sick of this ship. The last thing I'm
gonna say before I throw it to you, Marquise, is
this Dave Chappelle, shut show, bitch, ass up. That's all
I got to say. Oh oh, Marquise, God, I mean,
just quickly to button up. It's just we cannot think
the change is.

Speaker 6 (01:11:10):
Gonna come before not inconveniencing systems like we actively have
to inconvenience like you know, streams of production, the way
that people like get money, like we need to actively
cause disruption.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
And so yeah, you're you are preaching Oh my god,
my no, ma'am no, ma'am, bam for me.

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
It's I think we're in a place where if you
don't text me back for like a while, and then
you're like, hey, sorry it didn't text you back. This reason,
this reason, this reason. Baby, it's my twenty six. The
world is on fire. You don't need to give me
all those reasons. It's fine. It's like a letter. I
treat texts like a letter. If you are trying to
you know, reach me, or like it takes a while,

(01:11:52):
it's fine. I don't need the full long paragraph of
why it didn't happen. If it's something more pressing, like hey,
I saw that you were like trapped under a car,
and like you messes me and sorry I couldn't really
get see you in time. I'm just now seeing as
I just woke up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:12:06):
Okay, then we're gonna have like a problem.

Speaker 6 (01:12:08):
But I don't know. I feel like I feel like
we all have lives. We'll have busy, busy lies and yeah,
it's it's fine. It's fine. Also, one other quick one.
I think that we're in a culture. Maybe it's just me,
like hookup culture, sec culture where I feel like this
the act of being like can I take you home?

(01:12:30):
I think that's dying. I think the act of going
out for the night and somebody's like can I take
you home?

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
Like can you know you want to go home with me?

Speaker 6 (01:12:38):
I like that is like dying, that sort of spontaneity,
and let's wake that up. I think we need to
bring that back. I was like in New York the
other day and I got hit with that and I
was like, you know what, yeah, maybe says I live
in La and ever It's homes are like miles and
miles and miles away, and so they're like, oh, hey,
you know, we've had this night of going all at it. Hey,

(01:12:58):
can we like we're schedule? Can we like get some
on the books? I'm like, no, take me home now?

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
I want to.

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
See Yeah, so yeah that's where I'm I love to
see it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Take me home, take me home?

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Yeah, Okay, my my is not as fun and slacious,
but it's it's it's it's it's not like it's not
about the pope per se.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
And I like, I'm not trying to give.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
A plus one plus one two Catholicism and organized religion,
but what I will give the spam pam is that
the spiritual leader of all leaders of Catholicism like made
a statement against the worrying Iran and I think and
anythink that's important to name as a new house one
who is who is and has now in sense engaged

(01:13:48):
like Trump has An attacked him and Trump Trump attacked himself.
I'm being very attacked and like interesting thing. But you know,
like it's like I can appreciate that this that this
how you know, it's one of the highest future leader
that one can think of in this in this religion,

(01:14:09):
is is making like is making simons that one would
says political.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
I think it is about human rights.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
I think it's really important and to me that's so
important important discernment or distinction. But yeah, like it's it's
gam political and I will give them that. My nomad
PAM is on the topic of wars.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
That was reading an AP News.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Article today that was uplifting, not buifting, but like uplilding
coverage of the war in Sudan that's been approaching the
fourth year of war with little little mention. We have
several wars which we're discussing all the time, and Todan
is one of them, and we we say, like we'll
say free Soudan within them, but no one's actually discussing
what's happening, so Dan and so like really like get

(01:14:48):
get more, want like like uplift coverage that is still
focusing on on the on the country Sudan, especially as
it hits four years and there really is still no
support that's actually happening from from any neighboring country, especially
not us.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
We just keep inviting the meeting other places. So wish
you think about that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Yeah, it's it's really fucking bleak out here, queen, Yeah,
it's so bleak. But with that being said, this has
been a very uplifting episode, So send us your thoughts,
your feedback and emails at Blackfatfempod at gmail dot com. Honey,
we are about to hit two hundred episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Y'all got to something you like about the show.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Let us know how the show has changed your nice Yes,
send us something, Send us something kind. We'll read it
on the air for the two hundredth episode. We want
to hear from y'all. We would love to hear you.
Send us also your thoughts on social media's by interacting
with our posts on Instagram and threads by using the
handle black Fatfemepod. I also want to say shout out

(01:15:52):
to the folks who engaged you calling that lady h
what's her name, Terry Thatcher Hayes.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
What is Margaret Thatcher Hayes. You caught that lady mar.

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
Harry Joe and Margaret Thatcher. Her name is Megan hat
your ma.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
You caught her.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
And it was the funniest he said, Margaret Thatcher is
right way and the way he was like hiya.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
Yeah, he was so in it that he was like pause.
But anyway, all that's what we said.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
We I know, we got a wrap. Marquise, where can
the dolls fight you? Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:16:33):
I am on Instagram at Marquise honeybear or TikTok at
Marquise Honey I have a podcast Marquis and Eric dream
of another gay podcast available on all platforms, and right
now I'm on you know, the festival circuit. I did
a short film with Carl Clements Hopkins of Hacks called
Ornathan Nancy and that's been going around the festival circuit.

(01:16:54):
We're just in Boston, brought to La Premiere on April
twenty fifth, so follow Warnthanmancy Film on Instagram for that
or my socials and I'll be yapping about that and
I do stand up all around la.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
So you know I love following me and let.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Me know it's me.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Yes, yes, queen Joho work and it I'll find you,
of course, my love.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
You can find me at Johoa Dann's across all socials
and if not that my website jodils dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
If not there, you will find me. Beggings want to
take me home? Please, not not for things sexual, just
because I just want to go home.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Well, yes, I want to put I want to put
the cover over me and rub my feet together like
a cricket.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
I just want to cricket.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
I want to be at home. And we pay so
much money for our homes and yet people are, let's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Go out, bitch. I want to stay home. I'm tired.

Speaker 6 (01:17:49):
But yes, sometimes you just need to go to like
the corner of your home, your apartment or whatever and
to stare at the wall because you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
Pay for them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
That part, pay for every square and you can even
lick it it like literally like that is a part.
I'm just saying. I'm saying I fully like be crawling
on like my ceiling like in those horrid movies, because
I pay for it. If I could, I would, If
I could, I would. I literally pay for every wall
in this bitch, every door knob, every every nook and

(01:18:17):
cranny at of this bitch. I pay for but for
me on socials Doctor John Paul online, doctor w dot
Doctor John Paul dot com, where you can learn more
about my consulting my book. Also want to say quickly
shout out to the person who sent me coin to
buy copies of my bu book to put into little
libraries around the area. I thought that was really sweet

(01:18:37):
and really really cute, and so I actually did that today.
So by the time you hear this, if you go
back into my socials, you'll see that I posted about it.
But anyway, all that to be said, that was really
really sweet and then yeah, there's things coming up down
the pipeline, up and down the pipeline that I will
shout out later. If you want to learn more about
the show, head over to Hulu Who Am I Meant
to Be, where I talk about how the show was
made and all of the important points about black fat

(01:18:59):
fans and how.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
It is changing the way we think about our world
and podcasting.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
All that to be said, this has been another show.
Stay Black Fat Femine fabulous and remember what jo hope.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Child.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
We may not be, but girl, get some pegga like
because you need some electrol lies in that body, Audia,
Audia of yours.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Girl.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
You can't go home if you're tired.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
You know you got to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
If you wore out and you're thirsty and your elect
your lights are wrong, you can't go home. You're gonna
do you won't be able to perform. All right, y'all,
I love us for real. I'll see you next week, by.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
The Black Fat fem Podcast is executive produced by Joey
Patt and doctor John Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
All content related to the show is edited by Chris Rogers.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
This has been a podcast by iHeartMedia and Doctor John Paul,
l Elsie the Black Fat Film Podcasts where all the
intersections of a Nandi are celebrated.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Honey, I know that's right,

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