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March 31, 2026 78 mins

What does it mean to be Black, gay, and free — all over the world?

This week, Jon and Joho sit down with Nick, creator of Black, Gay, and Abroad, to talk Black gay travel, safety, and storytelling. From MTV and BuzzFeed to building his own agency and passport-stamping his way across Spain, France, Mexico, Costa Rica, and beyond — Nick is redefining what it looks like to move through the world as a Black gay man.

We get into his iconic Yasss to Naur solo travel safety list, the art of long-form travel blogging in a short-form world, and why he went live from Puerto Vallarta during the El Mencho operation to counter the media narrative with truth on the ground.

Travel tips, queer joy, and citizen journalism — this episode has all of it.


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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the BFF Blackfatfelm podcasts on an iHeart
podcast network. Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of the
award winning Black Fatfelm podcast where all the intersections of
identity are celebrated. I Won't Ever host John also known
as Doctor John Paul, and Wendy's Wendy's Yes, Wendy's Girl
with the pigtails, Red pigtails. Let me need you to

(00:22):
come to the front here real quick. Need you just
pull up, come on down here.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
So I just, I just I got something to say.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Something about your food has changed and I don't know
what it is, but something is off now, I don't know,
I mean your nuggets, the chili.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Something ain't right.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
And word on the curb is that you are a
maga maga was it maga? We say maga a maga?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
A maga maga?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
You are a maga love and trump hole. That is
what the world is saying. The world is saying that
y'all are maga loving trump holes. So I just want
to know. Is that their correlation between the food changing y'all?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
The math is mathico.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm gonna I'm gonna need you I'm gonna need you
to answer for your for your crimes. But otherwise I
was just gonna say Wendy's is not given what it
used to give. And I would love for our listeners
to to chime in and say, is it me? Am
I the drama? Am I the problem? This is it?

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Is it me?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Is it my taste?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Bud well? Is that thing in the chili?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
So this is the thing. We talk about it real
quick before we get into the show. My I used
to work at Wendy's and so back in the day.
I think there's a part of me that likes to
hold on to the memories of what used to be
yesteryear and there was a time when we these was
very tasty. But I just like, like I said, I
went recently and said something, something is not right. Something
is wrong. It's quite wrong. And I have not been

(01:55):
back since. So I just wanted to name that. But anyway,
how are you doing? My good sis?

Speaker 3 (01:58):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Suppose that's your Bessie jo k Joe?

Speaker 4 (02:00):
How you know I will tell you one thing right now, Well,
but fast will never let me down to talk about Yeah,
you know ros girl, let us know she but she's
is good. Okay, she takes fiber. She's good to cow
beeachy man, how you doing anyways? I reand to do
my vocal tim for ya because I'm inspired for last week.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Uh in your in the in the.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
The sphere of our of our good game, mister Trevia Anderson.
They don't want to call me for the Taylor Parrot movie.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
They won't.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
They won't call me for Chloe Shoo. And it's a
Joo that got Jao. I. I don't know if you
watch the show Boo, but like, well you better watch
the show. But in the last last last weeks, so
Trevell just it was like it was like the diction
where they said it it was the Jao for me,
Chloe Joao like the eyes I said that this is

(02:53):
a Chloe Joao andoo.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
And now every day this week I must play on
my phone the vocalip is vocals and not look lit's
mad recorree.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Now I'm living for it. That's why, that's why that's
not what we're today. We are here for some fun
ship once. I'm excited to be reading out again with
my good sister and me and the studio and then
in the stew in a stew and Joey's here as well.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
To our producer, Yes, producer, Joe, we.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Have a great great fine, guess said. When I say fine,
I mean fine. It really is twenty four.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
This many decided to pack up his life and live abroad.
I want his travels.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
He documents, experiences, explorts what takes to build a life
on the move.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
So we have to thank you for your service.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Thank you for gay and abroad liaking for a new friend.
Nick Gilloryyay, I'm doing great.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Honestly. I can't complain, but you want to, don't you. Well,
I want to complain.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I always want to, and I could complain. I won't,
but I could.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Coming back to America, I kind of want to complain.
But I'm just like, you know what, we were leaving
again in a month and a half.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Okay, Okay, I'm saying where you're going next?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
I can't and I think we're gonna get into it.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
But a little, a little like a little mouse boosh.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's definitely gonna be an Asia area like we're thinking Asia.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
US is the white refrigerator of y'all.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
It is very much giving. It's very much giving, an
old school like I don't know. Do you remember when
when dishwashers were like push button. That's what it's giving.
It's very much giving the old school many.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Button. Oh god, yes it got a touch screen.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, I have mine. Mine's digital.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I'm around.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I'm so sorry, but you've been to my house. You
should know.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I wasn't like what's John's dishwashers got the stove, push
seek the couch.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
I'm talking about the old school push button when you
had to like, oh you might with her nail, and that.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Is that is real.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
No one talks.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Let's just actually just before I before we take off today,
I have a know what. I'll save it. I'll save
it for my man family.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Oh I had to resist myself. That's gonna be good. Okay,
that's good.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I love that. So we are gonna get into our
show and start at the way that we always do
if you all follow the show and you all know,
we start our show off at the top by giving
our flowers to our dear miss Tisha Campbell and are
still here segment. And so with that being said, we
are with our travel buddy today and we are going
to ask for our still here when you arrive at

(05:39):
a destiny, what is the first thing you do? Are
you a girl who freshens up in an and dip
person or are you an immediate rest and relaxed person.
What's your move when you arrive someplace this new? Now,
I will say this for me and then uh, and
then we'll throw it to you Nick. So what what
is one of the things you do when you first

(06:00):
to where you are going? Now, I'll say this for me,
and then I'll throw it to you Nick, and then
we'll throw it to Joe hoo for me and as
for me and for mine. When I get into a hotel,
the first thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna fix
that ac That's because.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Most rooms are hot, even when it's really cold outside.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
For whatever reason, they're always a little stuffy and there
are always a little hot so you want to get
some fresh air in there. I'm also one of those
girls who love to pile on the blankets, and so
I'll come out, I say, can I get an extra
Can I get an extra blanket? Can I get an
extra comforter? Because I do like to have the heaviness
of that on me as the room is cold, it's
just nice. And then you stick one leg out. It's

(06:35):
just this heavenness.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I always do that too.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yes, the heat and the blankets, but the one leg out,
Oh put me immediately to sleep, Honey, I'll go right
to sleep. Yes, but I also do that, and then
I also then I get crawl under the covers and
rub my feet together like a cricket.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
And then I like to door dash.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
That's the other thing. I'm looking in the city to
see what tasty treats I can have while I'm in
the area. That's what DoorDash is for doors spots at
the show.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I would love to have not to pay for my dash.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Even if I didn't have to pay for my door
dash pash for three months, that would please so nice.
But ultimately that's what I like to do. Set the
ac get my blankets, make sure I take me a
good shower, find me a good show, which is the pit.
If you have not been keeping up with the pit,
you're doing yourself with disservice, and then finding something eat.
What about you, Nick, what's your favorite thing to do?

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, I mean I love that blanket sounds great, But
for me, I'm honestly I'm dropping my luggage immediately, maybe
showering if I'm like disgusting tea and getting the hell
out of the room, like I don't want to be
in the room. I also don't really buy like hotels.
I don't really like hotels per se. I love an
airbnb like okay, okay, like a house something that feels

(07:47):
more homey. But the moment I get there, I'm dropping
my bags and getting the hell out of there. Can
I want? Yeah, yeah, I'm getting the hell out of
it out Okay, don't don't. I will too too, But no,
I literally I I when I'm on vacation or traveling somewhere,
the most time I want to spend is like out

(08:09):
of the room. Okay, I don't want to be in
the room, Okay, Like I'm visiting, I want to like
explore and travel and I want to sleep, which I
mean I'll sleep in the room, but other than that,
I'm out of there.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
What about you?

Speaker 4 (08:21):
You know, honestly same, I like I too, like I
strive for Abby's versus hotels, and I think not because
I do love a hotel, but I love but everybodies
are typically going to be in areas where it's like
it's more, it's like like part of the neighborhood, and
so I I mean, I also work through my feelings
about gentrification that way of course.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
But I love I love anybody because I too.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Like I I go in, I'll probably shower, freshen up,
and then then I'll do it like I need to
acclimate myself. I don't care if I'm going to like
literally to l A, I needed to accolate myself. So
I will like walk around off on the nearest coffee
shop because I'll probably I'll probably need some coffee, whether
it's there or night. Give me a little decash shop
or something. While it was a good coffee as well,

(09:00):
what's near spot to me? And I'm asking Rista what's
good to do around here? Like but like what what
what should I know? Like what should I know about
this neighborhood? When I travel, I'm trying my best life,
and so I'm all about like like yes the place
can like maybe if there's like a week, I'll spend
one night like in in in the hotel NB relaxed,
but really I'm there to flection up.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I'm there, I'm there, no.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Shade, no shade to to are you are? You you're
gen z right, are you considered? I'm I'm right on
the cusp of okay. Well, I was gonna say, I
feel like that's a that's a young person thing me
and my old age. I like to get into the
room and go to bed because I always find reason
to go to sleep. But I just said, but I
also get that to when, like I said, this week

(09:48):
I was in Sacramento, it was like, what day was that?
I think it was either it was no, Yeah, the
last day that I was leaving, I had some time
between actually going to the airport and and checking out
of my hotel, and I was like, okay, hold my
bag and I just walked around about the area and
it was really like cool because I've gone I've literally
stayed in that same place. But yeah, Sacramento is actually

(10:11):
really beautiful, and I don't I didn't realize that until
actually was walking around.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
So yeah, and I will say that the acbar is
elite because I think, like I love the paper ACU
girl Arctic in this. I can't stand the bit. I
can't stit. My friends who watched this, I can't send
a bit you as who wants to.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Heat on each he is you sweat, I would.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
My hill I will die on is easier to worm
up war mother is to cool down.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
And I love the cold air and just get a
little breaking. Oh. I love like if if I'm in
a room where it's like one of those like those like.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Wa Wallace's put me to back next to that ship
unless you blow on me. All.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
It's so hard because especially when you go up to
the Bay, you learn very quickly that a lot of
there is no central a C. And a lot of
even old even like the newer hotels don't really have
central hazy. So it's a very interesting thing.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I also love that you said that you talked to
the barista about what to do and stuff. That's a tip,
like one of my number one tips that I give people,
like talk to locals. That's how you're gonna know where
to go and what to see, what to do, what
to eat, you know. So I always recommend, like when
you're at the bar, when you're at the restaurant. Yeah,
I always ask the people that are serving me. I'm like, yo, where.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Do yeah, where did you eat?

Speaker 3 (11:27):
I need to exactly whenever.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Whenever when a hotel and I'm not the like like
no no, don't demote.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
You tell every other guests and this bitch, where do
you go and what you do?

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I don't want know why I didn't act. I still
I still can't get over how nasty that bar myself.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
It's so disappointing when you have that so mad at first,
I tell me because my brother, so he knows the lost.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Parts I was.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I don't know why I was being so sick. But anyway,
all that to be said, now that we've got you
all ready to yes, an Expedia trip. Also Expedia booked
the show here somewhere, get us some We would love
to do a little tour across you know, a couple
of stamp where grabbed his little pocket three. But yes,

(12:18):
we're gonna take our first break and when we get back,
we're gonna jump into our category a second.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yes, okay, fam, we are back, and this week we're
talking about being black, gay and broad.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
The man himself.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
But before you get into what you're doing now, I want
to know how you got here, Nick.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Your resume is extensive.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
The work is long, MTV, Busfeed, Disney, shutter shot Baby.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I am tripping on the names that I'm dropping in
this in this series agency. Baby, you have businesses to
attend to. So I want to know what led you
from the life that you built here in New York
to life around the world.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
World.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Well, thank you for that. I mean, as you mentioned,
I've worked so many places and worked for so many
amazing brands and that's great, right, But at the end
of the day, like what's left for me? Right? I
felt so drained and exhausted all those years of working
in entertainment and I mean, y'all know how it is, child,

(13:22):
you see all the grace. Yeah, And I was just honestly,
I went to New York for five years. I wanted
to do it, but I was done after that. Like
I was just like, oh my god, what happened? Like
I was losing myself and so, yeah, I don't want that, honey. Yeah,

(13:42):
wore out. So I was like, what can I do?
That's like challenging but mixes what I love, which is writing, videography, storytelling, journalism,
social media. And I'm like getting the hell out of
America because I mean, you could do it here, but
I mean everybody knows America it's kind of boring. Yeah.

(14:05):
So so it's like I was like craving to explore
the world because I've always want to do that. Anybody
will tell you I was that kid that was like
dreaming big and you know, thinking about my next move,
and you know that at the end of the day
is like, I just did it. I literally just threw
my crap in storage. It's still there, and I packed

(14:26):
my bags. I had a big bag, a small bag,
and a backpack and I left. I just did it.
I was like, if not, now, when is what I
always tell me. If I'm like real, when I'm only
getting older, like this year, I'm turning forty and at
the end of the day, like I'm only getting older,
and the longer I wait to just like do this thing,
I really wanted to do it, and I'm never going

(14:47):
to do it. So I said, you know what, child,
let me just go on down near to Mexico. Yeah,
get me a little hand, honey.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Said beat beat beat beatd bum bumb I know that's right, Yes,
I know that's right.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
And I had a time honey, you see his hand.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Bomb too hard.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Well, well, so I guess my question before I asked
the other question, I'm going to ask, did you start this,
like did you leave recently or was this like, has
this been like a.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, that's a good question. I left a year and
a half ago. Okay, So I was in PV specifically
on and off, like obviously I had to. I was
still traveling a lot, right, I had clients that I
had to go to back in States and do all
that for. But I was there, like I had an
apartment and everything for a year and a half.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, And so now are you kind of what they're
called no madding?

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah exactly, I'm no madding. I'm here in LA obviously
filming with you guys and just kind of working and
doing some LA content because I used to live here too, right,
I lived DIF for nine years before in New York.
And my best friend, hey, Sean, he'll love that. Yes,
he was like, why don't you come stay with me
for a month? I mean, how the hell are you

(16:03):
gonna say no to free?

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, well okay, somebody can pay my.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah it's my bestie, shout out.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
And not only that, I just wanted to spend time
with them. I hadn't been like around him so long,
and we spent so much time together like over the years.
I was like, hell, yeah, let's do it. Yeah, so
I love that.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
So I think one of the things, you know, as
we were talking about putting the show together, the thing
that we collectively said that we love about Black, Gay
and Abroad is how retro it is. And I will
say this, like part of my journey as a quote
unquote creator has you know, really started with like the
old school blog of it all. Like I always like
to shout out the folks. I mean, you think about

(16:44):
kid Fury, you think about be Scott like they they
were doing right which girl?

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Where is you?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
But that's not in here, noo there. I'm just being
your inbox in a second. But I was gonna say,
like they are like they in my mind they are
the true bloggers right there. Really made it feel like
for us that we actually had a voice and could
be doing stuff. And so I both of us, we
talk about how much we love long form you know,
content and art and really this idea of being a

(17:11):
self written content, you know, in different iterations. And so
in a world that revolves around short form videos and
quick blips and any anything that can go viral, how
do you make comprehensive guides and what are some of
the things that you look out for when you start
thinking about where you're gonna go or even what part
is safe for you to even go to.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
I love that question, and I mean I think for me,
I grew up like in the early days of the Internet, y'all,
I'm old. Like I grew up when like the internet
was just coming out. I was the first person to
run in a mailbox and get that America Online is
you've got sign sign up with my dad's credit cards.
Sorry dad, Yeah, he was kind of upset about that.

(17:54):
But I love the Internet like I loved MySpace. I
love social media. I love the HTML. Like child, I
was in their coding and shit, like I was obsessed.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
With it, say it and.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Then somehow I was like, how can I work in it?
So that's how I got my social media start. And
then I wound up at BuzzFeed, which is obviously like
one of the most prolific entertainment internet companies in the world.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Right, say what you want, but they definitely made period
a point like you can talk as much as you
want about them.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Like yes, who they are now? Who are back then?

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Or to back then like like they were they were.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Say what you want, but they were that girl.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yes, but so I say all that to say, like
I was always obsessed with like writing and social media
and all that, and I'm like, but I don't own
those platforms. Yeah, we don't own those platforms. But maybe
I own my blog. It's mine. I can put whatever
the hell I want on it. I can control everything

(18:55):
about it within squarespace, of course, but there's more control,
like I think at this day and age, like as
a business person, the more control you have over your product,
which at the end of the day, it's a product, right,
You need to have that control because there's so much
crap out there, there's so much noise, and there's so

(19:15):
much like control from the platforms where like you get lost,
like you don't get it's a business at the end
of the day. You can't monetize the way you want
to monetize if you don't have control over it, right.
So and then I also just love writing, Like I
missed that about working at busfeed, Like I was writing
and I missed that writing, you know, writing posts and

(19:36):
putting gifts, throwing a YouTube video in a post, like
you can do so much with a post, whereas like
a social post is just like you're scrolling and then characters.
It's boring to the point. So I love that y'all
like blogs because they are coming back, right.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I think that they are re I think they.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Are re emerging, emerging in.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
A very interesting way. And I think to your point,
I think a big part of it is I think
that they're the last few years. Especially as someone who
studied media and you know, and and and content creation
and all of that in college, I think a big
part of it is, you know, so much of it
is folks trying to find their voice and people feeling
like they have lost their voice because of these brands

(20:19):
and trying to get back to that. Like they're trying
to get back to a place where they feel like
they own the voice, that that is truly theirs and
their work. And I think that's what you're doing with yours,
and that's actually really cool, Like it actually encourages me
to think about some stuff I want to do, so.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
I honestly I suggest, like if you are not doing
like a blog or just like creating your own personal brand,
like you're messing the mark. Like that personal brand is
what brands are like buying, like they want to latch
on to something that tells a story, and my personal
brand tells the story.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
So it's like, you know, if you're just posting on
social media, that's one thing, but you can bring it
so much further if you're like it's spanning your personal
brand with a blog or a vlog, just like the
more storytelling you can get involved in your content.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
I think it's like, yeah, you know, I think.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
I just pay me for that. Let me invoice somebody.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I think I think it's a testament one.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
I think a testament to people are craving like nostalgia
time where that's like life is constantly.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
On the move and life is really bad.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
But also but also like I think as a society,
like we've overfunctioned technology to be so rapid and fast.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
I mean, realize that actually it wasn't it actually isn't
the most conducive thing to us.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
And so I think it's also like a realization of oh,
maybe we actually did go too far in this thing,
and which I think rightly, but like rules of theater
is like go too far, so you know how to
dial back versus go to literally don't know how to
build it up. And so I appreciate that people also
realize like, yeah, we could do this thing, but we
actually find a lot more joy in the centering of
our stories with long form content written word, not just

(21:58):
always video stuff. And and also like like I appreciate
you you have a fusion of the two right like
like like like like you you do post like like
the carousel picks with with graphics and words on them,
but you also go back leaves back to your blog
where so people can get a bite size story if
they want that, or they can go to the full.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Side store, which I think is really great.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
I also love you know you have been to many countries,
just Spain, France, Mexico and Costa Rica and more. I'm
curious what's the criteria for looking at a place to
travel and stay at your tips for acclimating to that place.
And we're also curious, like what's what's coming up on

(22:38):
the list for you?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
What's next? Things to Asia?

Speaker 4 (22:40):
So like, yeah, tell us more about like what like
what what'sitting there?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
How are you? How are you playing that leg of work?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah, I think that's a great question. I think you know,
when I'm picking a place to go or live, where's
the food?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Right? Because I'm gonna tell you right, no frown now
che to my friends over under the Eiffel Tower.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
But honey, no.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
No, it's not given what I thought it was supposed
to have given.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well, you gotta read my blog. I actually wrote a
blog about France.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Okay, I'm just saying the food is good.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's good. You just gotta go to the right places.
Maybe that's the thing about Paris, like if you go
to just like any just jo shmo. Like my first
experience was like that. But then I went back and
I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Shit, where you go? Good?

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Okay, But I am curiously because you said you're from
Louisiana and that's a lot of French influences some curious
about also like puss Apart and that, like you grew
up with a little bit maybe like more like your
French influence may possibly cuisine that.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Was like I didn't know anything when I got there.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Louisiana cooking and cuisine is completely different than French cuisine.
Like I mean when you put like creole like like
we're making like gumbos and jambalaias, like French people don't
really make that.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
That's fair.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
But to your point, like you know, the food is
elevated there, like it's like, you know, they're like creams.
It's like hearty stuff potatoes and French fries and steak.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
And I will say though the prons there was there
was a moment there when I was in Paris. We
had yeah, prawn toney and there were just it was
a massive amount of baby those.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Were good butter. They love butter.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yes, so we're good. I will give credit where credit
is due, but I was just saying my experience the
way I want.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
But yeah, sorry, it happens. That's part of traveling, right,
Like I always feel bad, but also at the same time,
like it happens to me too, Like I sometimes I'm
like what the hell is this? But at then of
the day it's like, okay, well I'm in Paris. Yeah,
but uh, you know. Another thing is I always look

(24:54):
for like queer spaces, like I want to go to
polaces where I'm going to be accepted. I'm also black, right, right,
I want to be in some space where I've heard
things about black people going there important because it's true
there are places like that. So you do have to
do your research and your due diligence, Like when you're
traveling and like googling watching vlogs. Like the best tip

(25:16):
I always give people is like go watch YouTube vlogs
because you see people on the ground in the place
you're going, real time, in real time doing their thing
with their little camera like that one, you know, talking
to the camera and showing you around. That's like live
like kind of like live television, almoyes. So I always
tell people, like, do your research and don't be getting

(25:38):
mad at bloggers or vloggers or social media folks when
you have a bad experience somewhere that is not their fault, right,
it can happen to anybody anywhere, at any time. So
we'll get into that about the PV stuff soon, because yeah,
I got some hate mail, which we love getting hate mail.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
I watched that. I actually watched that entire click. I've
gone to Porto Ayarda, but it was a very much
a day thing. We went. We were on a cruise
and so we went in and we came out. But
I the time we were there, we were there for
about eight hours out of black hose, and I had
a really good time. But I also think about that
the same thing, like I got a couple of people
being like the same thing when I said I had
not that great of a time in France. And so

(26:19):
I was in Paris for three days and then I
forget the little area I was at for the other
I was there for a writing intensive and I was
at the writing intensive for five days. It was a
very interesting experience to be like in Paris and then
to be in another place. And I said something about it,
and people were like, oh, you're not cultured, and so
it's a very American way of thinking. And I'm like, babe,

(26:39):
that's just my experience. It's just me talking about my experience.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
The country.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, it was my first time out of the country.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, my right.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I was like, it's time being across the pond. Girl,
can you give me a minute?

Speaker 3 (26:56):
You know, it's unfortunate. That's just how the internet is.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
It's kind of like why of blogging too, because there's
comments on the blog blog, but like you can ignore them,
like you can block them to like, but it's social
media is everywhere, like comments and people are not afraid
to cuss you out. I mean, so, yes, people, whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, tell us about Asia?

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Oh yes, yes, So next my travels are gonna take
me to Asia. And I think I'm gonna start in
Vietnam because A the food, hello you saw earlier. I
like food. I like to eat, and I like to
eat well. I don't like to just eat.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I like to eat well.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
And so definitely the food, and I love being around
like culture, and I know, like first off, Asian culture,
like as a broad like spectrum is so like vast
and intricate, and I know that there's gonna be a
lot of stuff that I can learn and and also
teach people about. So there's that. Vietnam is definitely on

(28:01):
the list. I got all kinds of other things. Thailand,
I want to go to China again. I want to
go to Japan for the first time.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
That's next year for me, period.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
I am literally like I am just the rest of
the year is Asia May mid May, and then I'm out,
like we're gone.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
I know that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do have
like a a slide question like what's up?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Can I open this coke let?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Crisp? Like, no, I'm not trying.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
I'm not trying to.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Like seking to your finances in this question, but like
I think I think there's yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I know everybody I know everybody wondering how do you
afford it?

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Like, hell, you know, how does one do it? Where
are the economics behind, like behind these choices?

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, well I have a sugar daddy. He funds my life.
I'm just kidding, not y'all, goop, it's gonna be like
you follow out.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
That said, well that's the that's the shots I have
to go find. You can die now, good job.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
That took me large mont you you're so serious that said.
And I actually wasn't job the script today.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Mind. My whole process was, well, this is new information.
I'm not mad about it.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
That's literally where my head went.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
You shouldn't be mad, But I am accepting applications. I
don't have one yet, but I do have a job
as a talent manager, and obviously that brings in some income.
And think about it, like the cost of living is
lower in these other countries.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Well that too. Maybe they are robbing us, they are robbingness.
But I was gonna also say, even to your to
your point about being a nomad, you're also saving money
because you're not having to pay for you're not having
to pay for lights, gas.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Gets all together.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
It seems to just be like you're taking care of yourself. Yeah,
so I could see how it could balance out a
little bit better.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah. And then at the end of the day, like
you know, food is cheaper elsewhere and all that I mean.
But again, the platforms also pay me to produce content
and post it on their platforms. I'm also like gearing
up my blog to like start to have ads on it,
like all these little things I'm getting brand deal like interest. Like,
at the end of the day, there's a lots The

(30:26):
best way to make money is diversify your money. Yeah, right,
your income streams like built. I have like nine you
know what I mean. So you have to have not
like that many income streams to make to make it,
and some of them are passive, right, Like Affiliate marketing
is big in the travel space. I work with a
company called Stay twenty two and that company, I just

(30:49):
put a little like things on my site and it works.
It magic and I don't have to do anything. Spots
of the show spots to me, Okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
I'm just kidding. I keep saying that I eventually will
need when you will is gonna message me one day,
I'd be like, girl, if you don't stop saying that,
but yeah, I love you will but yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, so yeah you have to. You just have to
have a bunch of income streams and you know, hustle.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
That's real, that's real. I think one of the things
that you and I say hustle, I think we are
all in this place of you all have to have
multiple streams of income to do really anything you want
to do at this point in time. But I do
appreciate you saying like, there's also a part of me
that heres in this. You're you're pouring into something you
love and you're doing something that you care about, and

(31:38):
that in itself tends to kind of flip it. You're
not doing it for work. You're kind of kind of
what people say, you're not working to you're not living
to work. You're kind of working to live, and you're
living the way you want to live. So I just
wanted to kind of say shout out to you for
that one of the things that I wanted to mention
as we get ready to kind of like wrap things
up in the segment. I know, last year you dropped

(31:59):
a list of twenty five places black gay men can
travel safely and solo, and I was thinking to myself
one of I wouldn't say your post itself, but I
have been playing with the idea for my birthday of
going to Antigua for my birthday, and there was a
part of me that was the immediate thing that me
and my husband had been going back and forth about,
is you know, is it safe?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Right?

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
And so I appreciate that you put that out there
because now it gives people something to kind of look at,
tell us more about where your mind was when you
thought about these twenty five places, and ultimately too, like,
has with the world the way the world's looking now?
I mean obviously you put this out last year. Yeah,
in what four or five months, the world has kind
of gone walkers? So has your thought changed a little?

(32:43):
Has there been you know, updates per se?

Speaker 3 (32:46):
I haven't updated it yet, I'll be honest, but you know,
putting that list together was a very important thing to
me because people were like, where do I go? Where
do I solo travel? People kept asking me like where
to go? And I was like, shit, okay, I got
to do the research, like do it and do it right.
So yeah, I mean all those places on there, I
haven't been to them all obviously, but I did the
research to like figure out where the like LGBTQ community

(33:10):
is like welcomed to a certain degree, right, And I
think it's important to have it all in one place.
So when you're looking for, you know, where to travel, Yeah,
you have ideas in front of you and you can
kind of pick and choose. And that's one of my
highest viewed pages actually from Google, like from Google traffic.
Yeah period, Okay, yeah, so like people are searching for that.

(33:32):
So that was an immediate signette too that like, oh shit,
like people really want to know where to solo travel
and as a gay black person, like where the hell
to go? Where are we accepted?

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Can as? Have you thought about being a travel advisor?

Speaker 3 (33:45):
I mean it's I toyed around with it, like the
four thing or whatever.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I don't know much about that, so yeah, but I
get what I know about it, but I don't know
about it.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, I mean it's not really my favorite thing to do.
I will, I can tell you where to go, but
I don't really want to like plan a trip for you.
It's real, I can tell you where to go while
you're on the trip, but like I don't really want to,
like do the planning the girl. You know what I'm
saying exactly like, but I can tell you like a
list of places to go. I love doing that and

(34:16):
putting that together versus like, okay, girl, today's here's your
But I do want to do a group trip. I
want to do a group seeing more.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
And more people do it. I know so t S
is doing one soon lined up and so has a
friend to the show. Uh uh, Tim, Tim, thank you's
last name? I couldn't say it for the same but Tim, Tim.
I know for a fact. Tim actually invited me on
two of the ones that he's done timing. I couldn't go,

(34:46):
but ultimately, yeah, there are a lot of a lot
of folks online are doing group trips down there are
actually someone on my threads that I follow found her
husband on a group trip. That's amazing and met in
the group and ultimately up getting married.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
That's why I need to do a group.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Man, we do a black Gray group so I can
go and meet more.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Cruise do a black cruise something.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
I have never been on a cruise, but I think
it's a good idea. Wait have you both been on?

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Maybe that's my favorite way of traveling. So my husband's
getting ready to go on one, and I am jealous.
Af The only reason why I couldn't go was because
I teach at night and I couldn't get the time off.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I often rethink my relationship with ships sometimes, well but
this is really be where.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
It's hot, like because it's a lust of resort, experience
on the move, right, So if you're a good route,
but I've always done the woman has like family and
kids and ship.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I wanted an adults.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Want to virgin gotta be gay the gay ones. I'm
I ain't gonna lie. That sounds a little too cokey
for me.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Well, well lot.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Too much could of mean for me, Like like like
I want to try it for the experience. I tried
for the experience.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I'm like, I'm just saying it's a little too white
for me.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Also that part many but they are different, love the.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I'm gonna just say it because I can't Gay whites
are different, and so I don't know being on a
boat with gay white for seven days.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
I'll try anything once. I'll try anything once. I'd be
like a four day a little day one.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I really.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I was like, no, what, yes, and bring me back home?

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Literally, I want to do a turn around.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
The last question that we have for you, speaking of Mexico,
it's no.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Don't you work together, especially as I know that point
of Earth that is off on the top of your
list for places to go.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
You were in TV when the operation cast Some the
Men show happened.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
I really appreciate how much you can made to showing
that PV wasn't an unsafe place and counching what the
reporting was sharing. Was a great moment to me of
like sort of citizen to Senate journalism.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Thank you for that work.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
First of all, tell us more about why it's so
vital for you to showcase the city and even Mexico
as a whole authentically to your followers.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah. Well, it's such a good question, honestly, because Mexico
gets such a horrible rap, right, and I hate that.
I don't like the rap that any country gets, especially
in Mexico. We're right there, it's our neighbor. The hell
are you talking about? Like, shut up, you haven't even
been there. You probably don't even have a passport, you know.

(37:40):
So for me to like hear that constantly here in
America and also see it here in America, it blurt what.
It boils my what.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Biscus bloody blood.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
It drives me crazy because these people, they are so lovely,
They're wonderful, and it's like, you know, to see that
it just breaks my heart, honestly. So when we were
having what was happening happened, I was like, oh shit,
like this is serious, yes, but at the end of
the day, the news is recording it completely differently than

(38:21):
what's actually happening here in Mexico, imports of my Arta,
because I know people get mad when I say in
Mexico when I'm talking about that, I'm like, okay, it
was m BB y'all, okay, come on, And so I
was like, shit, I need to pick up my camera
and tell the real tea because what is going on
the news was crazy. People were texting me. My phone
was blowing up. People are like, Nick, are you okay?

(38:43):
Are you dead? Are they gonna kill you? I'm like, girl,
what the hell are you talking about? The house?

Speaker 1 (38:47):
No? Yeah, no, And that's the thing I think people misconstrued. Y'all.
Do realize That's what I kept saying to people. Y'all
do realize that this is a government thing. This has
nothing to do with any of the residents of the
people living there, right, especially.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
The tourists, think about would they want to kill or
hurt or harm an American? Like do you realize what
where that would go?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Right?

Speaker 3 (39:09):
So no, I never felt unsafe either, like some people
did and that listen, that's their experience. But for me,
I never felt unsafe. I knew what was going on,
like it was a thing. I don't even want to
say the word. And you know, at the end of
the day, the government said shelter in place. Okay. When

(39:30):
the government tells you to do something, usually you listen.
So that's what I did. I stayed my ass home
for two days.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
We're not trying to be out there, Like, let me see,
you said, I'm not on my rooftop.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, you said, I'm not giving Nancy drud to the situation.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Though I was on my roof But I'm.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Told to stay home.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I'm staying home. I know that's right.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
And but but the thing is is my food with
my food supply was running low. So that's when we
was like, get but I had no alcohol.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Oh well I don't drink. I would have been fine,
but I understand.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
I only had d Serrano. I lived on de Serrano
for two days.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Okay, well it was a black cherry liqueur. It's very fancy,
but listen, but it was not great. Yeah, I understand,
but listen, we all got through it. And I want
to say something too about this, like Porto rire to listen,
that was one day, right, nothing has happened since that event,

(40:28):
and that was a very rare thing to happen. Right.
We don't kill Elmento just every day, right, so we
have to think about that. When an event like that happens,
there's obviously going to be a response, right, So just
think about that when you're making your decision about traveling
to PV. I'm going back the hell it's too beautiful

(40:49):
to not go back. And those folks there are so
wonderful that like, how could I turn my back on
them because of one day? That one day does not
define PV. And I hope, you know, me saying that
might change your mind about going, because you should go.
It's beautiful and the food is amazing, and it's a
it's a great place to you know, be your gay self.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
I was gonna even say I go. I mean, I
think about just what America is right now in terms
of hard too, right, So like I'm like, we make
this assumption about other countries, other places, other place places
like you said earlier that folks have never been. But yeah,
I'm going this is probably the most violent place that
I have. Yeah, I mean we live in this We

(41:32):
have mass shootings every day, right, we have shootings every day,
like we have. There's a lot of violence in terms
of racism and sexism.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
I like all of that.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
So like, I think, you know, I love that you
say that because I think what you're you're challenging folks
to think about is this notion of or at least
challenging people to kind of step out of this very
American nice ideology.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
What what other places look like?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, and really just saying, like you know, I tell
people all this time, safety is is relative no matter
where you go.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Totally.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I was in New Orleans. Look look, you know, and
I'm from Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Right, right, you can't violence can find you anywhere. So
it's very much in the mind of like, you know,
you just do what you gotta do. You know, do
do do your homework, you know, ask the questions, watch
the videos, but also know at the end of the day,
like safety is very relative no matter where you go.
But I'm really happy that you know one I will say,
I am happy for both you and a friend of

(42:27):
mine who was there at the same time. I'm happy
that both of y'all are safe because I mean, again,
it was it was something that happened. But I also
love the idea of you saying, like, don't let that
one thing define your ideology of what PV is exactly.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
And I mean being a person that has lived in
LA and New York City, right, like the two biggest
cities in America, right, Like, my head is always on
a swivel. Look, my head is literally like this.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
If you come up too quick behind me, what are
you doing?

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Can I help you? I do not play not the
do I My head was like after that event was
on a swivel because I don't know because they were
just zipping around town. I didn't know who was.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
So I like because I was about that quite a bit,
because like I think there is like I know it happened.
A lot of people saw like like like Mexico so dangerous,
like the Mexico dangerous, like really like the cartoils is
bigger than everywhere and such.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
It's like the two things about that.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
One, I hate when people like Mexico dangerous because I'm like,
I'm like, is a city in one state of the country.
They're like like like like there's baha, there's there's mutual
con They're saying, there's so many it's a it's a
biggest country with other states. So can we say like
like my Mexicos and safe, Like what are you trying

(43:44):
to say?

Speaker 2 (43:45):
And Two like.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
I think people do you understand that different governments have
different relationships with different entities that they operates outside outside
of the law, Like let's think about our relationship with police.
Our police is is an entity that we just legalized,
but like similar things happen or right, and so again,
like like I think a lot like when like when

(44:07):
I was in Mexico City, like there, you know a
lot of friends like like we're really help, You'll be
safe there, And I was like why unsafe? And I
remember like like like if I'm being down, like a
lot of the people are there, like you know, some
folks were they were like, oh, like make sure you're

(44:27):
extra cautious about this.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
But then some like like like like locals like, just
don't do dumb shi it.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Girl, literally, don't do dumb sh like don't dumb like
you'll be ho rule number one.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Like like like like we're definitely the colonels looking for you.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Girls don't know you.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Like, don't do dumb ship and don't buy drugs.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Why are you ask yourself where the drugs came from?

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Girl?

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Why America is the number one supplier drugs, drugs and weapons,
drugs and weapons? Like what are we talking about?

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Like it's it's it is like it makes me, it
makes me very.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
But a lot if it is, I mean, I think
it kind of to close this out, I think you
know what you're really referring to a lot of people
have inherent bias.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
A lot of of other sources outside.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
And it's like, baby, we live in one of the
most violent, one of the most violent places.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Not just you're not just stabilize the entire country.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
We did, child, we did, Like what's going on because.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Way today today like let's talk about that, but.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Well all political because being us as political, let's let's
talk about that. But I'm just saying, like to an extent,
I think it's just one of those things like I
think if you do your research and if you don't
do dumb ship when you travel or she will be okay.
And also making sure that you, like you said, keep
your head on a swivel. What that's gonna be the
title of this episode. You own the swivel and that

(46:00):
is what let me go in there. Put that down
right now. I'm gonna do that at the break your
head on the This is before yards before y'all from.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
The STREETSAKA and see that in Mexico. You need to
read next post about what not to do to be
a culture vulture. Amen at m We're back in the flash.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
All right, y'all, and we are back and in this
week's What's Popping segment. As you all know, this is
where we talk about pop culture and all of the
stuff that's going on in the entertainment worlds uh. We
in true Negro fashion, we are a little late. But
just because we are late doesn't mean that this conversation
does not ever green or relevant. So with that being said,

(46:47):
we've had a few folks reach out to us in
different fashions, both on social media. I've been in different
spots and people say, girl, what is your thoughts? On this,
and I say, I'm gonna bring this to the table
and we're gonna talk about it on the show because
it's it's silly, it's all I'm so old. But at
the same time it acts a very prevalent and very,
uh I think, a very necessary question. So walk with

(47:08):
me here a couple of weeks ago, your girl is
it Shia?

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Okay, Shia Labouf?

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Oh lord, okay, God.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
What's hollering all over the internet about being afraid of
the gays. I'm afraid if they stand too close to me,
I'm scared. Okay. However, what I found very interesting about
that's that in particular interview was the man asked him,
if you saw Jesus, what would you do? And he said,

(47:40):
kiss him on the mouth.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Oh God, So I got questions.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
I got I got questions, and uh Christ, you may
have to bleep this. I'm very interested in what that
had to say. With that being said, I just the
question I have, and again, I'm gonna ask a real
question in a second. This is just me being silly,
but I do want to make it make sense. I
want to understand how you're afraid of the queers. But

(48:05):
at the same time, if you saw Jesus you kiss him,
make it make sense to me? I don't know. But anyway,
all that to be said, I wanted to ask a
question that could be considered a little messy, but also
I think it's very relevant for the time that we're
living in. Why is it always men like him with
this old, dusty thought process, Like what does it really

(48:25):
say about hyper masculinity and terrible men like him that he,
for whatever reason is afraid of somebody like I don't
even think he's all that attractive.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Right, So it's not your sake.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Well, yeah, it's like it's like I was looking at
him and said, well, girl, you must really think very
highly of yourself, which is which is cool. We love
people who are confident.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
But yeah, of course I just wish I wish.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Mother would take a shower, But that's not the him
or there. I just I think it's very interesting to me.
So I just wanted to ask that question for what's
popping this week, like what is our take and why
do we think men, specifically cis men like shi is
Uh operates in the way that they operate?

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Are you asking me?

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:11):
I think I think there's a couple of things that
we should unpack.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
First hit dog on holler okay, okay, Well also like
put down the crack pipe well allegedly.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Well oh yes, Sam legic, Sam magical.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Allegedly, because babe, what is going on? Drugs are you abusing?
I think when you stop abusing the drugs, you'll love
gay people.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
You t Yeah, that's all I got to say.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
That there is that there is, and leave my city alone.
New Orleans is not a playground for you. Go somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
The other thing I was gonna say real quick. I know, Joe,
you got words, but I was gonna say the other thing.
I think it's very interesting is now, because of your
the hatred that you've spewed in all of this, baby,
you are looking at.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Time in jail Okay for what long time?

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (49:59):
So that's all so very interesting to me that now
you know you're looking at jail time over being afraid
of a group of people who were just trying to
live their best life out on Bourbon Street. But anyway, Joho,
what are your thoughts? Shuh?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
It's just so tired, Shu, it's just so tired.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
No.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
I mean, he like he was for retirming good job, Boddy.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
I think like it.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
I think it's like one Shot has acted out for
the past decade, like he's been having his moments. I
think like I think about like hypermasculinity and the teo men.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
I mean it goes like I think of like being
in the locker.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Room in middle school and me being Cristina's queer and
like like, oh, I won't get get undressed around Drew Homo,
and I'm like, maybe like you, you weren't like I'm
not I'm not looking at you.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
I'm got myself relaxed.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
But I think it's I think one, obviously, one we're
taught to we're tal tape woman.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, so we're talking misogynistic, right.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
We conceive quickness and men as a as a like
desire to be more feminine, which is which is actually
not what chords is. And so that right, like like
one most one goes to the folks and so they're like, oh,
like like this means that.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I must hate poor people. Bye bye. I think I
think so.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
I think that the private we're like we're taught to
hate this thing by the structure of who we are.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
But I also think.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
It's this lens of like I imagine someone like him
feels trapped by something in himself in his life, and
I think for me to be queer, like you have
to untrap yourself. Like I feel he's right, like the
people experience the frustration or hatred of others, like it's

(51:44):
never about the person about about them?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Is there about that the person's about about them?

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Always also reminds me of like when you hear about
like a preach preacher or a priest, like messing with
you know, little boys, or also like you know, being
gay on the side, it's like, wait a minute here,
maybe maybe he's.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Actually so, I mean allegedly allegedly, I mean I to.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Have been like is that what? Which is which? I'm
also like I find it.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Funny and interesting like these men who are quote unquote
famous right have a legal level of power, and I'm like,
you could come out and no one's gonna care, like.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
No one gives a ship, no one cares.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
But like people are dying him, like people coming out
coming out and being killed for it, and you could be, like,
you could be fine, and so I think like I
think like it's like it's it's just a magnamassion.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
I think of like the privilege you want to keep
as a white man. This white man is a straight
white man. You don't want to give up early like
or or relinquish.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
And this is this idea of like you can remain
powerful if you commit to this like identity, but like
you're actually more powerfulhen you get to be your full self.
And I also say there's a level of people feel
like Rachel rightly, you just discuss this a lot. Like
It's often it's like a ales like how dare.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
You be this prideful? How do you be this bold?

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Like like how do you like like how do you
how do you like rock nails and be be your
full self?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
And what that?

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Like I try to beat you down. So I'm gonna
try and like beat you down and kill.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Your Yes, I'm gonna do it before you Yeah, I'm
gonna do it before someone else does it to me. Yeah.
I think that's very much what I was giving. And again,
I don't want to give this man too much attention.
I just think for me, you know, as we see
this stuff and as we're hearing this stuff. And this
is the reason why I brought it up, is because
it's not just living in the world of Shilah. But
we're hearing a lot of different people say really terrible
things about quere people, about trans people specifically, and I

(53:35):
think it's very Yeah, it's a very interesting time to
live in a world where people are scared of people
being their authentic selves, Right, Like, what what does it
say about you that you're so scared of someone just
being themselves? What does that? It has nothing to do
about the with the queer person, has everything to do
with you and about the insecurities that you carry. And

(53:56):
so I just you know, like I like I've been
saying for him and a few other people, I hope
you get the help you need. I hope, I hope
you just just And for those who are listening to
the show, obviously we have a following of folks who
rock with us and get what we're saying. But I
think at the same time, like, I think it's very
important for all of us, even if we are quote

(54:16):
unquote woke, or even if we we like ourselves and
love who we are, keep interrogating these systems that you're
quote unquote scared of. Right, if you're scared of femininity,
interrogate that, if you are scared of hell, masculinity. What
is it that makes you so afraid of I wouldn't
even say masculine or feminy. I say interrogate the world.

(54:38):
That this world is telling people they have to live in.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Like I'm telling y'all being scared, Like y'all are y'all
are y'all are just rowing countries, y'all are coming on
the streets, y'allre lives.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Why are you scared of us?

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Right? Like?

Speaker 2 (54:51):
What like because we're happy?

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I'll never get it. I just said this system I yesterday.
I don't think about no shade. I don't think about
straight people. When I wake up in the morning. The
first thing I'm thinking about is do I have enough cereal?

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Okay, I'm like food, where's the food?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Where is my water? Cinnamons crushed? Because the bitch was hungry?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Right, I didn't have to. I don't think. I don't
wake up thinking about straight people. I do think that
the power we have that straight people often do wake
up they live we live in there. I'm like, gird,
wake up. I think where's my coffee coming from?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Right?

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Today? That pie?

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Can I take off?

Speaker 3 (55:35):
The time?

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Else?

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Like where's the beach?

Speaker 2 (55:41):
The lost in my list, and I don't even get
to the brother list.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
The list is within the day. But people, gas price
is gas gas? Do I walk?

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Do I drive right? Do what?

Speaker 3 (55:55):
I think? That's great. I think they are so obsessed
with us because they are so jealous. We're so happy
and like we spread joy.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
And we're happy.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
We're happy, like in the face of places that are
actively trying to country.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Yeah, girl, say this. I mean, ship is not good
right now, just not good.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
But it was never good for us in the first place.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
We can make a word, but like we gonna make
We're gonna make fun and make joy.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
And at the end of the day, yeah you'll yeah,
you are going to be fine. Girl. But anyway, all
that to be said, we're gonna take our last break
to pay uncle scam and when we get back, we're
gonna have our last segment. Yes ma'am, no man Pam.
Will be back in a second.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
And we are back.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
So we are back with the segment that y'all all love,
which is our yes maam and our no man Pam.
This is where we celebrate something or someone or or
we give people their flowers or we hit them with them.
And so this week you got the whack whack it
for me time. With that being said, I'm gonna start
off with mine. We'll throw it to you Nick, and

(57:06):
then we will throw and then we'll throw it to
you Joeo. To kind of wrap it up with a
cute little bowl. This week, my yes man Pam So.
I know in our last segment we talked about that person,
uh a le Booth and uh.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
What I found very.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Interesting is when I was putting that segment together, an
article came up that his ex FKA Twigs is suing
him over unlawful NDA. I didn't read the article because
I just didn't care enough to do so. I support
the fact that she is suing him though, so that
that was enough for me all I needed to see.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
And I said yes.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
I said, my thought is this, if you can't rob
these niggas, sue them.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
And that is literally what she did.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
And I said, that's that's right, girl.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
I said, get your money, get your money for him.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
I don't know what he did to you. From what
I understand, there's a lot of there's a lot of
mess there and I don't want to get into it.
For folks who have had you know, I don't want
to retrigger any of our listeners. Again, you can go
read the article, you can go look it up. But yes,
she is suing him. So I'm very very happy for her,
and I hope that she wins because I love to
see women come up against the people who have harmed them.

(58:15):
That would make me so happy to know. So I
will be following that with my good eye, which is
the one on the left. I'll just be following them
a good eye. Now. Now, now what I will say
is this, So my nomn PAN this week is I
want to say a big fuck you to the IOC

(58:37):
and the Olympics. I don't know if y'all have been
followed us. Yeah, we saw this week. Now, what I
find to be very interesting about this is that it
is a cishead woman who instituted all of this, right, So,
a sith head white one. I want to name that
because I think it's imperative for us to understand that
a lot of the terrible stuff that we see that

(59:01):
could impact all of us, and I say as collectively
as minoritized individuals. There are always certain groups and certain
pockets do the work catch it. There's certain people. I'm
just gonna say people because I don't want people on
my mentions. There are certain people who always try to
ascertain to the oppressor, and so I really need come closer.

(59:22):
I need you to come in here closer. And I
want to say this to you, CIS women. Trans women
are not trying to take anything from you. If anything,
they are just basically saying, we just want to be
treated fairly. We want the opportunity to be celebrated in
who we are and how we live. So I want

(59:43):
to say that what CIS women are doing is just
the system of misogyny, and it's doing exactly what the
system of oppression is doing. It's making you think that
the people on the other side are coming after you.
In reality, we all should be working together because let
me tell you, y'all keep coming for trans women. And
I've been saying this and I'm gonna keep saying this
until I can't say it no more. Y'all come for

(01:00:04):
trans women, y'all come for queer people, y'all come for
black people, y'all come for They are coming for you too, honey.
And if that that Project twenty five, page one fifty
nine ain't telling you nothing, pay attention, because they are
literally at your front door, and they are just waiting
for the end. What is the given sentners?

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Can I come in? I pick Pull Robing Clean. I
picked poll Robin Clean. They are waiting for you outside, honey,
and all they need is for you to come on in.
That's that's all they want, is an invitation. So I'm
telling you you can keep thinking you're safe since women,
but they coming for your spot. Other other thing I

(01:00:42):
want to say, since I got the time and I'm
on on my soapbox, I lost my iPad yesterday on Southwest,
my friend. Yeah, Southwest, don't sponsor the show.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Frontier.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
You're allowed Delta Delta, Delta Delta. I'm a Delta girly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
But speak Frontier. Frontier. Give us some British airways.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Give us, give us the air front nothing holiday.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Yes, I'm gonna cut me out of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Virgin Global or something, yes, Virgin Yeah, I'm gonna say
this and then we can rap it. But I was
gonna say. I just wanted to say. These companies, when
things happen to you, they make you jump through all
these hoops to rectify something like why why I gotta
wait thirty days for you? To investigate if it's really
my iPad. When I'm giving you all the information that

(01:01:45):
tells you it's my iPad, why like it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Don't?

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
It don't make no sense? And to that also to
the person who commented on my status when I was
asking about whether I should just pay for the replacement,
fuck you too, because I didn't ask you to. I
didn't ask you to jump into my comments with your
your opinion. I really did. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
I literally asked one question.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
I literally asked, would it be smart for me just
to pay for the replace replacement? Or should I wait?
And someone said pay for the replacement? And then there
was this person, how how pompous of you to get
on and make it seem like it's south West fault
that you lost?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Or I didn't say that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I literally just said, I don't like the idea that
it's gonna take me thirty days to have to wait
to get my iPad back. So do I just find
do I just pay to listen?

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Like I I'm not gonmer I dote? I do I
do blame the customer service? Yeah? Like lack of service? Right? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
The customer service is not horrible, right, So that's what
I'm saying. That's all I That's literally all I said
was the customer services, not customer servicing, And y'all felt
the need to jump into mind eighty days?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
What are we a contract?

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Literally?

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Like, who has thirty days? Probably I should?

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Obviously I use it when I'm on the plane. So
why would I have Why make it make sense to me? Anyway,
I've already marked it lost, I've already paid the deductible.
If someone wants to start a gofund me to get
that one one hundred and twenty nine dollars back, I'm
really happy to go ahead and take it. It's not
bad at all.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
But that's the thing I got you. Okay, it's not
bad very much. Yes, it's very annoying.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
What I will say is for y'all walking around here
with no Apple Care, no Apple Care. Plus you're doing
yourself with this service.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
If everybody listen, if you're buying the Apple anything.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
You get that please get so annoying.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
But just get it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Yes, pay for the Apple one, pay for the They're
gonna take their money anyway, but please do it. But anyway,
like I said, I just paid for it. Yes I
lost it. It is what it is, but I definitely
just wanted to say that South worst. Yeah, girl, I'm i'm.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Their days are numbers, please wrapping up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
But anyway, what are your guest ma'ms and no man's
for this week?

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Mine? I think the t s A is my yes,
because they were working without pay, right, and I know
they yell at us and screaming us and all that crap.
Well unless you have pre jeck clear. Girl, yell at
you when you have pre checking clear, but when you
don't and you're like put your shoes in there. I mean,

(01:03:59):
they there were working, right. I feel bad that, like
they were not getting paid and they are there to
protect us, right, they are there to protect the airplanes
from blowing up, which is crazy, and they were not
getting paid.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
So you know, I saw something earlier today that said that.
Last night, I guess they rectified it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
I saw that too, the man in the White House.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Somewhere. So I don't know, and I don't want to
speak out of turn. I don't know. I think I
saw that, but I did see something this morning saying
that I think we're back getting paid.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
And then I know, ma'am. Thing is Christinome and Donald
Trump and all the other people. I hate him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
I have no yes, ma'am.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
So your yes, ma'm must together, we are together, yes, yes,
my n I.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
Have to know, ma'am's one is really bad and one's bad.
Well on one's bad one silly the first one out
of the bad one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
First. It's a little story time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
So here I am.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
A little bar in my beautiful neighborhood. Pause, I think
made and I am my bar.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Some friends we had just watched drag Race with with
a few other friends went afterwards for some fun and
there is this white man with us. And this white
man is obviously drunk, and he is like he's being
flirtatious with a few of us. Were like like like
I was like whatever, like you know, he was what whoever?

(01:05:39):
Like like like like like we're off, we're all for
a little bit. And I'm like and I'm I'm like
so like I'm like, like what are you into?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Like you're into like you know, like into like here
guys small blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
He's like I love like personality blah blah because it's
a humor. I love people who are like like sassy
and sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
He means me sassy and I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Like, oh, like, what kind of humor? I was like, Oh,
I'm like, I'm like, what kind of humor you like?
He's like, he's like, oh, I love the mental humor.
I said, Gore, you're crazy. What does the mental humor mean?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
And then he so he was like, he's like, I
can't tell you said I said? I said, I said,
are you crazy? What can't you tell me? Kid?

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Are you sure?

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Girl? Crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
You're crazy? You tell me?

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Well what you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
He said, okay, okay, goes into my own whispers.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Oh God, I don't like where this is going.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Sometimes I like to say the word goodbye. Wait, how
is that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
I said?

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
What the funk?

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
I said, so real quick? That's not the men, that's
just that's just I mean, I mean, because I was
telling him like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
The exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
I was like, I'm sure you didn't think he was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Yes, and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Well, you know, I hope, I hope for.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
The best, pay for the worst.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
What he said?

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
He said? He said, no, I can't say aloud. I said,
I think what's going? But I wanted to hear him
say it, like I want wind this woman to tell
me about person?

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
What what?

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
He what he thinks it was so funny. So I
was like, that's not that's just racist. It's not racist.
I was actually racist.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
I think it's like funny I say sometimes And I
was like and I was like, but you weren't black,
So like what's He was like, well, what's different between
saying that and like thot? And I said, well, one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
We pause here say not you giving the whole dissertation
the way baby, the way.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
I am two drinks deep, like I have. I got
you had.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Posted something and I was trying to read between the line.
I got.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
Like as as I'm like, we're all trying to tonight,
I'm like so he's like so like like like like
like like why is this different from like me?

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
It's like saying that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
I'm like, well what because you are like like like
like we all are here, but two fact, it's not
in terms of enslavement. Like let's like let's unpack where
this work comes from, Like like why like why would
you as a white man, can never be saying this?
What this? And that it's not humor. It's not funny.
If you find it funny, you're fucked up. But like
like like that like like if you said to me

(01:08:37):
or any other black person in this room right now,
you would get punched in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
But like it's like, it's not pipy. And he was
just like I think that maybe like people just don't
get it. Sometimes I was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Like get what it was? It was? What did I get?

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Girls? So manam to race play.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
If you ever, if you ever to me or someone
that I on love, I want to do some race
play type ship. If you are not by person wants
to the N word to me, if you are, if
you're if you are non personal color saying any any
other derogatory word, different culture, girls.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Like get out of my face.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Listen, I see can I say this before you move
on to your next one? If you stayed home, you
wouldn't have been in that situation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
See have you seen me? Like sard of decline, Baby,
I have to go out. I've got to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
I've got to be seen. I have been home. Yes,
I'll be home.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
I'm a community icon. I cannot I can stay home,
and I.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
Have I have to sell the people, shake hands, kiss babies,
and racism. Okay, the president of times out here the
Lord's work. Because because I was like listening, I'd rather you,
I'd rather you tell me that, than like then like
the like tell somebody else that, because like like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
I will, he would have got slapped right now I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
So I was like, listen, baby, I'm be happy you
told me because I won't suck you up right now
right but like if you say this again, listen, you
have three options.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Get jazz beat, jazz, bey, period, shout out to Jay. Wow,
my girl, that's sure. So I w just say that
was that? That was no man, pam one do this day?
I fucking love j sh girl? Are you crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Jay?

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Why you're crazy? Girl?

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
She was?

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
I saw a story one and that was a thought
about straight now funniest story.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Absolutely, it was bunker and I know I was like,
you're telling me in the good year of our businesses, lord,
Lord basins is twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Yeah, you still use this word and think it's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Like but also I'm not surprised because, let me tell you,
because a lot of people who because this is one guy's.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
Seen it important. I don't watch what am I saying?
I got I was on this radio, so I mean
this podcast thinking me down asking.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
Because the one time, also today when I was in school,
I had a friend bless her soul.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
We had I think I told this before.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
We went to the chocolate shop and it was me
and my roommate and my room and I. We were
both like, we're we're both mixed blocked, and he's like,
you know this, this, this restaurant is so diverse. Have
there were seen so many color people here before?

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
And we were we were like, was this person not
of color? Oh? But like but me and I remember
like tracks color. Yeah, we would be like, First of all, girl,
you can't be saying that. I was like, what in
the nineteen sixties is how there's so many negroes here?
I was like, I was like, it was so robbed.

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
He was also like I was saying, you know, say
how much he loves that, how he loves how diverse
like the restaurant was.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
So I was like, so you have the good intentions,
but you said what I was I was like, records,
what do you what happens at home? Where you be
saying this? And that's that's for friend.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
My second one so early, I was I was going
to talk about my nails because knowing have the people
who don't understand the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Issue, People ask dumb questions like, how do you wipe?

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
But no one asked me how do you put the
credit card out of the out of the ATM or
the gas stations? So nobody asked me how you pushed
your butt on a keypad. Okay, that's the real ship
on my law, My law nails girl, this is for you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
No one give us. We want justice. No one wants
to talk about the real ship. This is not easy.
It's hardly a bad bitch. It's targeting to be being
a bad bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Yeah, you know I have to.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
I have to. I have to ask for help one
more time to pull girls trying to get out of
a parking garage that last night, I was stuck for
five minutes because I can't put that bitch and pull
it out, and no.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
One can help me.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
They were hogging at me, see struggling, and one wants
to help a bitch. Yeah, and and no one has top,
and no one has top to pay. Where's the top,
bat girl?

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Bring that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
And business is twenty twenty six, So I want Amazon.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
They actually have that little clamp thing you can one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
They said.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
It's as only clip that basically like you can clips
your car and just put out a.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Little like for a long nail girl.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Yeah, you know, one called like a pooper scooper for
cards essentially, so like you know, says that no one's discussed.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
No one's discussed, like like time out on your own.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
Phone can be more challenging sometimes when you click the screen,
no one knows to discuss, Like like sometimes I do
put my eyeballs and I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
I stop.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
I learned to right around the nails. Trying to wiping
is the least of my worries. Baby, But day I'm
good to go. What about wiping?

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
I'm thinking about how do I do anything else in
my life besides sleigh?

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
You? Like, I even the Apple boxes? So like I
got a new computer last week and I was trying
to open the box and I literally kept trying to
put nail.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Off doing how I pick up a quarter off the ground? Yeah, girl,
because that ship's stand around because I'm not trying to me. Yeah,
I'm like that thing he's gone now, baby, trying to
take the pills that appeal of this bib. Yeah, people
are like, yeah, literally, are you? Sometimes I got to

(01:14:21):
do the.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
You It sounds like we need a long nail Olympics.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Oh my god, I did.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Have until I started rocking acrylics is something I never
understood and I do understand.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
I must say to all the girls who did this
before us, I'll give you, yeah, we ain't how they
told me have to day.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
It's to like to like work around, right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
And so even I want to even shout out like
folks like t s or even working because they're now
like I know they rock, like think like I'm like,
how did these girls function? I function well with the
link that I have, and if they start to get
a little too long, it's over. It's like I'm going
to get my nails done this weekend for that very
reason because they're getting so now I get it wholeheartedly.

(01:15:12):
But anyway, we love y'all feedback, So please send your thoughts,
your feedback, your emails to Blackfatfempod at gmail dot com.
You can also send us your thoughts on social media.
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(01:15:33):
you're feeling. Black Fatfempod is where you can find us
down to the youtubes. With that being said, Nick, where
can the dolls find you? To learn more about your
travels and all of the wonderful things that you do?

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Thank you. You can find me on all social media platforms,
Nick Guillory. And then my website is Black Gayboy Abroad
dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Okay, I love that so much. Queen Joe, where can
the dolls find you?

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
Always love if you can find me a Jojo danels
across all socials. My website jour nails dot com. If nothing,
you will find me scratching off the faces of white
racist in the streets because listen, I don't care weapons.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I do have ten knives on my fingers. I will sash.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
It's very much giving. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
I want your songs.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
I want your songs.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
I saw I watched Sinners last night, and so that's
why my mind is still on it. I also said
this online, and so I'm gonna say here. I'm gonna
tell you right now, mister Coogler, make that play.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Go ahead, get down to the theater.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Have somebody write that play, because I need somebody to
be singing Pale Moon Dad. I want to be in
I want to be in the aisle singing along to
Pale Moon. So I'm gonna need that. But anyway, when
you did the thing with your nail, said, that's what
I remember, and he walked up to Sham and he

(01:16:49):
walked up and he did that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
So yes, that's that is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
That's one of my favorite films. I swear to God
is so good. Anyway, all that to be said on socials.
You can find me at doctor John Paul find me
ww dot Doctor John Paul dot Comedy. You can learn
about all of my consulting on my book. You can
learn more about all of the stuff we have coming
down the pipeline in the coming weeks. If you want
to see and learn more about our show, you can
head over to Hulu watch Who I Am Meant to Be,
where I talk about the magic of the show and

(01:17:11):
how it's made. Obviously, if you have not watched it,
you're doing yourself a very, very big service. But that
being said, this has been another show. Stay black, fat, femine, fabulous,
and remember what joho.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
We may not be a cup of tea girl, and
if a racist you can joke and girl, get some
Fiji wan and call that good DMN day.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
We'll pay for it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
If you're racist, you can choke. Somebody can put that
on the shirt. Say. Also say just to make sure
that folks know, let's chat.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
GPT and more LGBT and protect the doll. Protect the
dolls always. Also drink your water.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
It is getting warm. There's no reason for you to
ashy anyway. We'll see you next week. We love you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Bye.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
The Black Fat thumb Pot is executive produced by Joey
Patt and Doctor John Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
All content related to the show was edited by Chris Rogers.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
This has been a podcast by iHeartMedia and Doctor John
Paul LLC, The Black Fat Film Podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Where all the intersections of a dandy are celebrated. Haney,
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