Now That's What I Call Discourse! (Featuring Danielle Young)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the BFF BLACKFEFTFIM podcast, an iHeart podcast number.
Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of the BFF Blackfeftfion
podcast where all the intersections of add are celebrated. I'm
one of your hosts, John Alson, known as Doctor John Paul.
And to those listening thinking about moving to California, specifically La,

(00:22):
please know that the gas is high, durin is even higher,
and the racism looks the same as everyone else everywhere
else throughout the country. So please That's basically my word
of basically saying, if you think you're gonna come here
and it's gonna be this grandiose day and you were
gonna be able to no, it's not giving what you
think it's gonna give. Stay where you are or go

(00:42):
somewhere else. LA is full and I'm just kind of sick,
kind of sick of everybody coming here. I'm saying it
here because folks keep asking me my thoughts on leaving
the state to come here, and I understand that the
world is trying to sell it as La is being
this grandiose place that is the the you know what

(01:02):
is it? Mother who was skipping down the yellow.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Brick Road with Dorothy.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
They keep selling it as well, that's oz and it's not.
It's terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's odz. The jail show Exact.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Town La literally has got them city. Please stay away,
get away, don't come here. I want folks to stop
saying that nobody told you how hard it is to
live here. I'm telling you on this show. I only
stay because I have made a good life here. I
know a lot of people. Literally, I'm from here, so
a lot of this. I know how to navigate, but

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I digress. I just want you to know before you go.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
With that being said, enough of me lecturing at the
top of this show. Obviously you all know I teach,
but I definitely just I'll get off my soapbox.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I want to ask you how you doing, Queen?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Are you feeling like miss Mary Matt with silver buttons
down her back? Back back?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Man, figure that back.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Don't y'all come sending either. We're especially arts about you
out here, bitch people are we have no arts funding.
It's horrible on these streets, Okay, come with the nice
moleather persons.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
The ocean and the water full of you.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Times is rough, Okay, it is is good times bad girl,
we got we got to go a band in the country,
go abroad, baby, anywhere is better than America.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I fear it is really bad. But besides that, it'stra girls.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
You're in a k joho and I just want to
I every I feel like every day, every day, I
just have something to sign about.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
But today, of all days, the sign is.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Guttural like I'm signed, the house is sign, the trees
sign God sign.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Like we just all signed.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
And I wish, I wish you'd come on the show
and not be like but let me tell y'all, I.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Just I really can't feel.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's felt. It's felt, and I definitely want to say
you know, I know we joke about how bad it
can be. I'm hoping that as we you know, every week,
my goal as much as we can go off and
talk about how terrible the world is. Ill y'all come
to this episode or come to this show knowing that
it's all love, that we're here to give you as
much light as we can give you in a world
that feels extremely dark right now. Your messages, your love,

(03:26):
all of the things that you all have shared with
us about the episodes. In these last few weeks have
been our light. So I definitely want to say thank
you for the listeners who continue to keep, you know,
keep rocking with us.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Go ahead, let's.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Say a great joy of today. And I don't know
if you saw it or what exactly is, but there
is a posthumous Luther Vandross album that came out today.
This we called Love Luthor and it is fifty six songs,
four hours of Luther Vandross. Now I will say it's

(03:58):
coming to this entire day.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Oh I know what I'll be doing tonight. The entire
is out and I am living for it. It is
so good. There are sometimes I know he's saying the
song oh my god.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
A lot of people don't know he wrote brand new
day for the Whiz. A lot of people yes, So
that is. But that beautiful third voice that you have
heard cackling in the background is our wonderful guest for
this week. I will say this. So I said this
both before we started. We call that the pre show,

(04:35):
and I'll say this on air. This person has literally
been such a media kind of north star for so
many people that I like, people, I follow, people I
look up to. Your name has come up in conversation,
and I'm just so grateful. You know. There are days
where I'll get on the mic and I'm like, I'm
so grateful to get to do what I do on
the show. There are days like today where I'm like,
oh my god, I'm interviewing somebody that I have literally

(04:58):
been following for years, and the have helped me with
so much of the work that I do just by
being able to look and mirror them. So, with that
being said, we have an award winning journalist, producer, writer,
comedian and hosts who has spent nearly two decades shaping
conversations around black culture across outlets like and I'm gonna
say this, the first article I ever wrote was for

(05:19):
The Route. It was because of this guest writing for
The Route that made me actually say, oh, I can
pitch them too. So again, your your impact is there
essence Ebany bet you name it. Often called the content
Queen and Queen of commentary, She's been a loyal following
through viral red carpet moments, literally digital series, you name it,

(05:42):
this signature Instagram story commentary. Please welcome the one, the
only Danielle Young to the show. How are you doing
My life amazing. That was so wonderful to hear. Also,
I wasn't sure if I was hyping up during the intro,
so I was kind of quietly cackling.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
It was good. It was good.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Laughing and enjoying them. But now, oh my gosh, that
was so wonderful and I'm I'm so glad to hear
to be a catalyst of anything for anyone. That's so
crazy to me. Yeah, yeah, because I'm just down here
living and you I just don't think about that your empower. Yeah,

(06:31):
and how much that actually like that's the stuff that
that's the stuff that means something. Yeah. Well, I mean
I will say this and and we'll get into our
first segment of the show, but I will say, like
it's important for you and I know that we follow
each other on social and I know that you have
been very vocal saying a lot of the stuff that

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a lot of creators are saying right now, specifically black
queer creators are saying right now that it is really tough.
I think it's important for folks right now to see
someone and say, if she can do that right or
if she can leave this legacy, I can do it too.
And the same thing for me, Like, that's the reason
why even on like my hard days where I don't
want to get on the mic, after remind myself like,

(07:12):
this podcast is a beacon of hope for a lot
of people. And when you know, it's funny because I
never thought of it that way either. But then I'll
get fifteen twenty thirty messages from people being like, where's
Where's where's today's episode? Why is it not up right? Yeah,
people are looking to utilize these moments. So I just
want to say, you know, I'm with you, and I

(07:34):
know what you're going through, and I know how hard
it can be, but ultimately, like you are inspiring so
many people in your work and I definitely wanted to
tell you that on air. Well, thank you, and that
is heavily received considering just like myself, even hearing what
you said about me as an intro and knowing that
I have built this thing and I have been this

(07:54):
content queen, which is so funny to me because it
was always literally really who I was, my content and
everything like just making sure that I'm always showing up
and always providing that form of entertainment for folks. And
then slowly I have been like the opposite of that,

(08:16):
a little bit less seen, a little bit less visible
and sharing and that day to day, those moments and
moments just because of like the weight of everything my life,
my personal like my family life, life as a whole,
because the world, you know, it's kind of shanky, but

(08:41):
it was a great value. Honey, it's terrible. It's terrible. Yeah,
the whole white refrigerator and please let's put your shoes
on all because it has been that dire and I

(09:02):
know now coming out of it that like a bulk
of twenty twenty three plus had been me like dealing
with my mental health and burnout and not even knowing
what that was at the time or what I was
even dealing with or up against, and it really kind
of changed my chemistry like mentally and how I even

(09:26):
show up in the space. And you know, for years
I had been battling value or you know, my own
value in thinking that I don't matter or things like
that is just like to hear, like that's why I
literally can't get over what you have said about me,
because it's like, oh, wow, yeah, that does make sense

(09:48):
that I am this vessel that is helpful for people
to consider themselves worthy of anything, whether it's dying, you know,
or pitching turning on their camera to be seen. And
I wasn't really fully ready to like embody that, and
as I dealt with like everything kind of crashing down,

(10:11):
I just rejected it all. So you're catching me now
on like an actual and real time resurgence or like
phoenix rising, like she's still burning, but like I'm coming
out of the actions, but it's still on fire.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
But we all are.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
We all are on and I think that's the thing.
Like I went through it, you know, I went through
it too, and I again, I don't want to as
for our listeners, I don't want to spend this whole
time of it just being us bonding in trauma.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Like I want to make it right.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I want to make it very real for people who
are listening to hear like you you see us weekly,
you on YouTube and you hear us weekly and you
see me, you know, or you see you know, Jordan
winning the awards and you see me, you know, hosting
this and the panels, and people see all of that
and they think everything is great, you know, And I
think it's important to hear that we are also humans

(11:06):
and we are dealing with the very human experience, and
so I share that you are. And I was getting
emotional listening to you talk. I from the bottom of
my heart. I'm not just saying this because I'm a fan.
I'm saying this because there were days where I mean,
I remember, let me real quick, if you just give
us a minute. I remember when you revamped your website

(11:28):
and I said, I want to be like I want
my website. I want my image that pink and that
those purples and like all of that that. I was like,
this bitch, excuse me, has her shit together. I'm going
to be like her one day. Yeah, I remember when
you did you did it, you did like it was

(11:48):
a content creator thing, and someone said and interviewed you.
I remember jumping in that room and asking questions I was.
I mean, this was like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. This
is before the pandemic. But it's like I've been following
you for so long, and like I said, I mean
every word I say right now When I say you
are that girl, you really are that girl. And if
no one has told you, if if no clip this

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and literally put it on replay, you are that girl.
Because you've been you are the girl.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
What do the kids say?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
You that girl that you think you are? You are
that girl that you think you are because you have,
like I said, you've created so much for us. So anyway,
I'm gonna get off this this love train. I just
like I said, I in real time wanted to tell
you like this is truly a dream country. I never
even in being in that being in that space where
I was listening to you talk about your content journey,

(12:40):
I never thought I would ever have a podcast and
you would be a guest, like it didn't even dominate.
So thank you for doing that, because you've been able
to create this for us in so many different ways.
So with that being said, we're gonna kick off this
show like we always do by giving our girl, Miss
Tisha Campbell, her flowers and are still here segment Honey,
we are still here? Yeah, I'm gonna learn that choreography. Yes,

(13:10):
the figure I am dead. But anyway, I wanted to
ask y'all a question that has been on my mind
for a minutes. So we are going to be doing
a very media heavy conversation because obviously we can't have
the media content. Queen here and not have a conversation
about that. The question that has been on my mind
is I want to know, And we're gonna be a
little bit later for the folks who may see the

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title and know we're gonna be talking about the two
thousands in media? But is there a moment in media
in general or entertainment that has shaped elements of your
personality or your sense of humor? I ask this question
because I am a walking meme. I literally anytime, anytime
something happens, I am going to reference something on the

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Internet because that's just who That's just who I am, right,
Like that is literally if you didn't catch that, that's
also a meme, right, I'm a do it anyway because
that's just because that's who I am. So I literally
am in walking me. Miss. I wanted to ask you
if there's anything that makes me like literally lives in
your head, rent Free. I know for me, I have
two specific moments. And then I'm gonna throw it to you, Danielle,

(14:13):
and then I'm gonna throw it to you Joho. My
moment is when Kanye literally sat on television George Bush
does not care about black people. I literally just read
that is a what are the kids calling it.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Stem?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yes, Yes, that is one of my stems. I just
randomly will blurt out, George Bush does not care about
black people. The other one is when that man tried
to throw that shoe at him. Do you remember when
he was I was he was somewhere on the other
side of the world, and he was giving like a
keynote and somebody got real mad at him and literally

(14:49):
took their shoe off and was throwing it out. I
just literally live for that moment. Yeah, George Bush. George
Bush lives in my hendry. Both of those moments tickle me,
specifically because of the way that Mike Myers looked at him.
Mike Myers looked at him and was like Donkey, like
literally turned into Shrek in that moment, because he was
so thrown at the fact that Kanye said that on

(15:13):
on TV and on live television. It was was wasn't
it supposedly some sort of.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Like press conference. I think it was it was raising money.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
It was like a telethon situation.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
It was like it was like it was out of school.
It wasn't it. It was like school.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
It was after Katrina.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I think it was a telethon foray.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, this was at a school when he was told
about Katrina I think or something like that. Okay, okay,
school about nine eleven.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah Kanye.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
That was like it was some type of raising money,
stopped the crazy girl. I don't know he was doing southing,
but he but Kanye was pissed and I lived for
that moment and I just like I said.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Stone friends, who's the shoe is? Fromight hand?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
The shoes from a press conference with the Iraqi Prime
Minister in Baghdad.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
You to get your shoe off, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
You have to take the shoe off.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
You have to live there, Like I love.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
On Wikipedia, it gives location, date, target, attack type, weapons,
attack type, shoe throwing, and weapons with pairs of shoes
and as that's why.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
It's crazy. What about you, Danielle? So are their their
mean moments? Specifically could be anything any entertainment thing that
happened to you that you've seen that just lives in
your head. Rent free to be fair the way that
all of yours were shockingly oddly George Bush, not so

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shockingly but like kind of oddly. Wendy Williams, Okay, okay,
okay it to be honest, like I miss her so much.
But like on her on her show, the TV version
of Wendy's Show, when she would have like cooking segments
and she would they would be like making the thing

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or she would or even she would be talking about
food that she liked. She would like drool, uh huh
and like literally need to like and like just as
someone who like in school, in j school, like you're
you're taught like this buttoned up news anchor, where is

(17:41):
your blazer? Where is your you know what I mean
it in the square when you just was never in
the square.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Blew the water and so.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
And just could not like would never have the right
words sometimes and it like there was one there's a
mini but there's also one where she would like, you know,
she's given commentary and she's talking to her audience and
she was like clap if you want him to suffer,
and yes, man, like she was to suffer the like

(18:33):
silliness of her and yes, like the honest to goodness
earnest like she was honestly asking the audience like please
respond to this as if there were normal like that
is so me uh, just that like sense of like
crazy sense of humor. There's another windy moment of her

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sharing one of her favorite snacks, which was like the
slim gem. But Wendy liked to light her slim gem
with a lighter as if like lighting a joint. And
she did this on daytime television several times and light
it and she and she would drool a little bit
because you know, to like light it and let it

(19:20):
get crispy a little bit, like she had to light
it long enough for it to like burn some and
she was like, now it's perfect.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Wow. I never you know, but that's what.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I wat her show every single day, like on time
on television. Is such an icon. I mean, there's so
many really amazing like Wendy moments. But like I just
loved when she just did stuff like that just was
normal for her and it was just like she is
really lighting a slim gym. I love her. I love it. Yeah.

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So is a literally a literal treasure.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
And there's so.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Many, so many things that she has said and done
that I have used in like as clips. Like I said,
when she did the thing with the music and she
didn't have a little shoulder, yes, like literally yes, I'm
feeling it anytime of good song come on and when
she just shot up? What was that like? It's also

(20:28):
she's known as a journalista to never hand over her mic.
It is important and she has and I know that
there's a super cut out here on YouTube, but like
of her snatching her mic back from various audience members
mm hmm, even maybe some celebrities here and there, you know,

(20:48):
like Wendy iconic for the microphone, never snatched a journalist microphone.
So like I she has shaped me on a door
as much as Oprah.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah my god, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Okay, there are a few things that shape my personality.
Two of them are expressions. One is really bad, but like,
that's a man, Mari, Yes, that's the man. Anything I'm

(21:25):
I'm the gender. That's a man, Uri saying that's daggable.
I'm like, that's a man.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
That's a man we're gonna get. But I mean, my,
that's a man. Maury is is.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Ungendered and applies to any single thing in the world
like anything. If if if you give me hot coffee
and some ice coming, that's a man. Marie about it,
that's a man.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
You want to talk about mother yeah, you want to
talk about mother, mother, okay whatever when I'm talking talk
ship because Pocket instead of being like the fuck you
want to talking about about mother's good?

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah. Well, randomly will just blurt out to the to
the maury of it all. Sometimes again I am I
am a human, I am a human. I will blurt out,
oh girl, you've got mail. I will sometimes just randomly
out yeah, well because got in trouble for that. So yeah.

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But sometimes.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
I will say sometimes we didn't we And to me,
I'm like, it's just I understand both sides. Like I said,
I understand both sides of it.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I understand why he started referring to people with queens
and all of that, but definitely missed the days and
that's all. That's arguably the best seasons of drag Race
were when, like I feel like after they changed it,
that's when drag Race kind of started to change and
I was like, she left, yeah real quick, Yeah, what

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was just hit in my head?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
It went away, So it was it wasn't an expression.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
It was like, it's a specific scene that I just
think about often, but it's gone now, so I'll.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Just that's the man Mauri that I wanted to forget.
You're probably gonna name the episode that. And again, I
know we're probably gonna get in trouble, but it is
what it is. We love it over here and you
get the inn al calls you got, but you any

(23:56):
of the same time, so it takes you down. You
ain't gonna easy. Well, why we try to help Jordan breath.
Put jobs up, Put jobs up like a baby, Put
jobs up so you don't choke. We are going up. Yes,

(24:19):
now that we got you going down the rabbit hole
looking for your favorite vine or early moments of YouTube,
We're gonna take a quick break and when we come back,
we are gonna come back with more show with the
Danielle Young.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
We'll be back in a second.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
And baby's still gonna be choking when we get back.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
And the category is all right, y'all, we are black.
We are back, and we are black. And now that
I caught my breath. For this week's category is segment
we expand on the earlier questions still get deep. Also
have some fun, specifically thinking about media the ways shaped

(25:00):
all of us.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I want to talk about the two thousands.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yes, there's a time where so much of media and
entertainment was so good but also so wrong.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
About asking you, Danielle.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
When you think of two thousands of media and growing
up with it, one of the things that stick with
you the sticks so hard for you personally and what
shaped the way you think about media and how you
critique it today.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Well, the early two thousands is where I got started. Honestly.
I moved to New York in two thousand and six. God,
that's just really wow. She's a lady. Yes, that's a woman, Mari,

(25:50):
that's a woman. Oh wow. Like I had to sit
in that for a second. That's a lot of years.
But yeah, I moved in in two thousand and six,
and I was doing some freelancing here and there and
got my first like full time working at a website
because that's obviously where everything was going at that point,

(26:12):
was online to digital in around two thousand and eight,
I want to say maybe a little earlier, and that
was at I went digital. So I was working for
Hello Beautiful dot com as an associate editor and like
went straight into lifestyle editor and like really got to
help them because at that time in media, it was

(26:34):
just gossip, you know what I mean, Like hot guys
like you know, Wendy Williams, but Almoe, you know, blog
like and so we were already dealing with quote unquote
real journalism versus what was happening in the time, which

(26:56):
was already a very challenging landscape because those were the
sites that were doing extremely well, your perezes and all
of those, and those were the sites that became people's
sources essentially. So the Internet kind of started with journalism
a little off center, but I think as the time

(27:16):
went on, we kind of slowly straight ended out, you
know what I mean, where you're real I don't even
want to call it real to not insult the blog
of sphere, but like, you know, like the actual publications
from like credited news sources started to make their presence
online your CNNs and the like, right, so it became

(27:38):
a much more even play in field. As the two
thousands and teams carried on, it was it just was
such a different time. I feel like I'm like, I'm
Kadijah James, you know what I mean. Like it was
just like such a yeah, like when you watch Living
Single and you see the type of when they show

(28:00):
cased her her career as a journalist, it was similar
you know what I mean, It was like tasting the story.
It was you know, negotiating with different talent, and it
was you know, really these intimate interview sessions with talent
and really getting to know and tell the story of

(28:21):
that was. It was just such a more romanticized and
you could take your time, uh space, and slowly and
surely you stop being able to take your time. It
started becoming a lot more instant enter Instagram, inter social
media in a way that was a lot more fast

(28:45):
where people were gathering headlines from their feed and this
was before stuff even had a feed, you know what
I mean, Like you would see stuff on your Twitters
and these little you know, blossoming social sites and very
much not seeing them come to your site. So like
things were starting to like change where everything was just

(29:08):
going social. Everything was getting shorter. So it was a
challenging landscape throughout the early two thousands into the teens,
but it also was really fun watching spaces be pioneered,
those social spaces and like watching black Twitter voices you know,

(29:28):
blossom and become thought leaders and pundits and talking kids
like it was such a cool career trajectory, I want
to say for people that were in that space during
that time, because you really got to see what it
was like to have people grow and be respected. Yeah.

(29:49):
So yeah Fury is a great example of that.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
I mean, Kid Fury started and that is.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Literally one of the pioneers of podcasting, do you know
what I mean? Like, we watched Kid Theory on at
samon Wall, you know what I mean, and was like,
this is funny, Like who is this? And he he
low key to me created commentary. Yeah, Like I don't
remember a lot or watching or being obsessed with I'm

(30:20):
trying to think in real time, being obsessed with people
that were like talking about the zeitgeist, right and the
funny way that he was And then to start listening
to the podcast and for a long time, that was
the only podcast that I ever listened to. Yeah, culture
wise in that in that way, Yeah, to your point,

(30:42):
a great example of watching someone be an individual and
like sharpen and home their craft and become this entity essentially.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, huge brand, a huge brand, and you know, shout
out to Kid Fury because they opened a lot of
doors for I mean a lot of the folks that
not only support me, but also support our show. I
mean we think about, you know, like we mentioned earlier
Xavier Dello, we think about Jaded next to show, we
think about the friend zone like a lot. Like Kid

(31:13):
Fury was the one who really kind of told his
friends and people, you have a thought or an opinion,
you should be able to share that with the world.
Someone needs to hear it. And so I agree with
you so much. I think one of the questions that
I wanted to ask you, Danielle is also you to
Joe Ho. I love this conversation because, as you all know,
I love pop culture, and so I wanted to ask,

(31:36):
in your mind, what was your what is your two
thousand starter pack? Like if someone opened your brain at
a time, you know, or they looked at your mind
as a time capsule, what parts of the two thousands
or even the early two thousand tens, Because I feel
like there was still some stuff from the two thousands
that rolled over into the twenty tens that people might

(31:56):
see or might know. When you say starter pack, do
you mean like these are like all random items or
are they like connected to something. It could be either one.
It doesn't matter, Like what is a starter pack for you?
In terms of like these like maybe what are These
are the three or four things that you would need
in order to fully understand what the two thousands were. Okay,

(32:18):
I'm gonna let one of y'all go first so I
can see. I'll mirror it so that way folks can
kind of know what we're talking about, like what the hell?
So when I think about two thousand starter pack, I
would say, you would probably need some what do you
call that? Low rise jeans? We would need some low

(32:39):
rise jeans. All the girls were wearing low rise jeans.
You would probably need. So I'm gonna say this too.
I was gonna say, you will also need a sprint.
There's a specific cell phone you would need, and it
would be blinged out. Either you would buy a case.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
That was blinged out for it, or.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
You would bling it out yourself. It was a sprint
flip phone. It was silver, It had an antenna in
UH and uh on the T nine. You you would
have to tenie it. That would be one of my
starter packs, you would probably or I would say a sidekick.
I would say a sidekick would probably be in my
two thousand starter pack, and then probably a magazine. I

(33:24):
was real notorious for like putting magazine pictures up on
my wall. Oh yeah, or who was the other one
that I would often Aliah was my girl. I would
always put a Leah pictures on my wall.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
So hmm, what about okay?

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Okay, I see so okay, I also differently, So this
is helpful context.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yes, because they're no specific to you, they're specific to
the time.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
So okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
So in my starter pack and you know, and my
probably maybe a little bit different, but my starck would
be so you with one carry one you would have
shoes from Yellow Shoe Sores because that was where everyone went.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
In the blisters, the.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Shoe sores, shoes and have you would have an Ion
Nano on that. No, no, you would have the song
shoes by Kelly shoes shoes.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
You would have.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
You would have Survivor by by by Dessy's child. You
would have. You have you have in your pocket packet
training cards, Pokemon trading card in your hands, a t
in one and a razor phone in the other.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
That was the one that it was.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
It was the flip phones. Flip it was silver, pink,
it was fa No, it is flipped. It was ultra thin.
The girls he was in the razor. If you have
a razor, you say you eat.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
The girls you maybe you had status close that phone. Yeah,
and whenever when every whenever you hung up hello, damn
close it because because because I had, you had to

(35:29):
have good credit to because because that means you has
about we've.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Always been on T mobile, Okay, but I was.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Because credit was credit was really important to these cell
phone providers at that point in time. Because damn, I
think you also have. So you this is the of
me you would have in my in my schools, the nerds,
we would have animal beanie. So I had a beanie

(36:01):
that was a panda okay, and had a little hanging balls.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
That were like I remember those.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yes see you have a have a little beanie which
you as well, and that would be uh that that
that'd be my story.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Okay, okay, what about you? Okay? Oh my gosh, Okay,
where you got to go? I had the phone in
my brain for mine, but you know you got that.
One of the things I'm thinking of. And this might
be a little bit like nine nine into the two thousand, okay, okay, juvenile,
but all right. Butterfly clips oh.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yes, yes, clips and the glitter on people's faces.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
You remember litter because it would just either come down
or you would put the glitter on. Because there was
always glitter in your makeup, no matter who you purchased
it from or what it was designed to do, or
in your jail, there was there was so much glitter involved.
So not that you need the glitter in your startup pack,

(37:04):
but your glitter is already involved in your clips for sure.
With the twist. Do you remember the twist? Oh god,
I love those so deep. Honestly for me, this is
very Moesha Mota the h but a little a little
notebook exactly. You know, this was low key, like during

(37:29):
cell phone starting. I didn't get my first cell phone
until I got to college. But like we used to
like write notes and pass notes around or like spend time.
Like I'm a creative, I'm a writer, so I used
to always write stories in my little notebook. And we
you know, once Being Girls came out, we had a

(37:51):
burn book.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
No no, no, we just dimber composition book because I remember.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Book. Yes, I mispulled it, not mean girl. This was
actually an idea from sister Sister Okay in Samara, they
had burn books on the show sister sister, and so
me and my friends created that for ourselves where we
would have the composition and like I have it in

(38:21):
one period and then I'm writing and then my class
is over and I see her in the whole way. Yeah. Yeah.
And that was all the way through like college, like
the notebook thing, like we just always had one bring
back writing with your hands.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yes, use a pen, use a pin.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
I've gotta be in the two thousand startup pad writing
with your whole hand.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Because a bitch cram these days, like oh oh god,
and my nails. My dined me.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
I'm I'm so. I was gonna say shout out to
my mom. That's how she found out I was queer.
I had wrote, I had wrote, well, me and this, uh,
I won't say his name on air, uh.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Composition book notes, each other positions.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
We were writing notes back and forth to each other,
and I had asked him if he wanted to go
out with me to something. We were doing something and
I think tenth grade, and he and I just put
yes or no, and then and then he wrote in
the box on the side maybe, and then he passed
it back to me and then I was like, well,
what would get me? Is like, what would I be

(39:35):
able to How would I get you to say yes?
And then he was like, pay for my ticket and
I'll go. And I did, and so that's how we like,
we were on cross country together and I oh, I
wanted I wanted to have I wanted to have his children.
But we would pass notes to each other in first period,
which is our math class. We would pass them back

(39:56):
and forth to each other. It's such a cute thing.
But yeah, that's ultimately how my mom found out because
she found I had a box of notes from Ryan
from that year and she all found them and she
with her dream because my little, my little gay baby
friends were not bold and out enough to even want

(40:17):
to pass notes. So I just I loved that little
high school baby doctor was passing.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
No, you had a game. You had a game, baby
like ship.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Everybody already knows, like it was always one of those
things that I got outed in ninth grade. But that's
so cool to me. I just I found that to
be so cool because so many gay babies in high
school are so in the closet and so afraid to
be who they are. I'm just like you was passing. No, yeah,
I was, Oh no, I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
I was.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Of that man was ready, she said she was putting
the money down and everything a man a man, And
we went out on a few dates and nothing ever
came from it. But ultimately I so yes, all of
that to say, bring back notes, bring back my notes. O.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yes, just us back into uh to the conversation today.
Doing that to the two thousands gave us the logging,
my space, early YouTube, and the cligal face of the books.
How did that era of anybody can be seen shape
your approach to being visible online?

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Is that you learned or would share with someone new
considering all that we saw.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
And went through and and like within that right, the
tools are different now, so what like like how would
you share with someone to like to like do today?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Oh my gosh, this is going to be a deeper
and more uh slightly traumatic rabbit hole than it should be.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
But during those times of Internet, the my Space days,
black Planet, there were so many new social sites that
were popping up and I forget the name of this,
hopefully it'll come to me, but it was it was
similar to a Facebook, but it was just for like
people and not just like students. And it was just

(42:19):
like this place where you could go. They had forums
where you know, they posted these forms that you could
respond to and talk about. You could use pictures. It
was like it was a similar similar to a singa
I can't remember something spot or I forget the name
of it. But it was like, you know, people all

(42:42):
over the world, and I was popular on there and
dipstick Cat no, okay, no, I'm not trying. I'm sorry
for being cutting in. I'm trying to figure out what
it is. I know, I wish I could figure it out.
But it was something to the effect of those where
you know, you get it, you're connecting with people. But

(43:05):
I was uncomfortable in my skin. So a lot of
those like times where I was like writing stories and
things like that, I was always writing myself as someone
who looked not like me, and that translated into my
online life where I was like, well, I'm not satisfied

(43:28):
with like because people were like flirting and like starting
to like date each other and different things on this site,
and mine was more me. I was more so just
like a commentator. You know. There was no like cuteness
attached to it. And one day somebody actually made a

(43:49):
very hurtful forum post about the ugliest people on the site,
and I was on that list, and that was kind
of like a push for me to create a different profile,
and I created a catfish profile essentially, And of course

(44:12):
I choose, you know, a light skiin Mamasita looking, curly hair,
skinny girl somewhere I found on my Space. And I
chose someone who had like a shit ton of pictures
and albums so that I could constantly be changing my
pictures and you know, h craziness, but this, this was

(44:34):
kind of how I spent a lot of my online
years early pretending to be somebody that I wasn't, you know,
collecting little boo skis online who were so in love
with this girl that I created, who was all me
mm hmm. The fact that they were not my photos

(44:56):
and so I even psychologically it did something to me
with that, like, oh man, I can be me and
be this amazing human, but I have to look like
that so that I can be seen, so that I
could be you know, cared for, so that I could
be desired. And the person that I was pretending to

(45:17):
be was constantly on the top list of best looking
this or you know, these are the sexiest girls on
the site, just all and I became popular as that girl,
and it was just crazy. It ended up all come
crashing down years after in a very dramatic way, like
maybe I should write about this and make this like

(45:38):
a series or something. But all of that to say,
it taught me all the wrong things super early about
how I see myself and how I value myself. And
it wouldn't even be until like I became a professional

(46:00):
on like a professional journalist, and like literally the Internet
kind of forced me to become a content person and
on camera. I really didn't want to do it, but
like it just I had no choice essentially, as my
career did what it did, and I became like a
talking head. And then I started working at these other
places and it's like, oh, you got to do we

(46:21):
have to put you on camera, and it just I
wasn't fully acceptant of myself at that point, and it
took years of me having to expose myself as a
content creator for me to actually get to a point
where I could appreciate who I am and how I
am and I know that you can still see like

(46:43):
even at the start of this episode, I was like,
I can't even believe you feel this way about me,
Like all that is still in me, that signing away
from who I am and how I am and accepting
all of it. It's such a work in progress, but
it's progress. Yeah, because I do like myself, I do

(47:04):
love myself. I do find myself to be gorgeous inside
and out, and I'm learning so much of that appreciation.
And so I think to answer your question, which I'm
hoping I'm remembering correctly, about just the Internet and the
early times of that space and what it has taught
me about myself and what I've learned is just that

(47:28):
being who you are is literally the most freeing thing
that you can do for yourself. And if I can
give anybody anything, it would be to look at yourself
for who you are and put the value there because
you exist, yep, not because of what you look like

(47:50):
or you wish you look like that, or you know,
you wish you didn't have the features that you have,
or you wish you were smarter, or whatever the case.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah, getting to a point where you can look at
yourself and love yourself and value yourself, that is the
most important thing that you can do on this Internet.
I like where the Internet is going now and to
where it's so nuanced and so individualized, to where you

(48:20):
can literally share what you ate today, and people find
that fascinating, you know what I mean. You go on
the internet and be like, wow, this is what my
girls look like today, and people want to know the
routine Like it annoys me a little bit, but it
also puts a little bit of a spark in the

(48:41):
idea of creation because anything can be anything. Anything can
be creation. Anything. Anything can bring you to the Internet,
anything can bring you to the forefront nowadays, you know
what I mean. Like a woman got up here and
started talking about how she married this man in the
pandemic and she had no idea what this man was

(49:02):
at the end of the day. But you know, like
you where it is so weirdly dangerous, virality and all
of that. It is so refreshingly beautiful to see that
there's no barrier here to being anything, to doing anything.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, So I think it's really cool because you speak
to I just had a meeting before this, uh, before
this recording, and the meeting happened. It's it's a pretty
big deal, and I can't talk about the NBA's all that,
but it's a pretty big deal on my end. And
the person who I was having the meeting with was
like it was introduced to me by someone else who

(49:49):
couldn't take the opportunity. And the other person on the
other end it was like, I don't know how, I
don't know who you are, like where have you been?
But it was just going off about how they were
so excited to know that I exist and I'm just
out here being my big black fat self on internet. Right,
I'm me, I look at us. I'm I'm trying to
do what thoughtship with my friends, right, I'm doing thought

(50:11):
shit with my best friend on a you know, on
a podcast. And this person is telling me, you know,
I'm so grateful you exist, and I'm so grateful, and
I think our people are gonna love this. And so
it's because, like you said, it literally becomes you sharing
just a part of who you are. You saying we
need to check in about this specific thing, or we

(50:31):
need to bring more awareness to the specific thing. It
really does open up a window for so many people
who truly don't feel by themselves in a world where
the world is constantly moving and and and can make
people feel like they're being overlooked. So you're so so
so so right, you're so right. Yeah, yeah, And I
know that like a lot of the times, people would

(50:52):
equate that kind of stuff to external validation, which yes,
by definition, sure, this person pouring into you telling you
all these things about how amazing you are, sure it is,
but that exists because you took a chance to share
whatever it is that you deemed important enough to share.

(51:12):
And imagine, if you imagine, if I never would have
jumped on this internet, you you never would have seen me,
you never would have created BFF, you never would have
gotten this opportunity. Not to be like, I'm the reason,
but you know what I mean, Like it's yes, if

(51:33):
you really think about it, is you weren't there? There's yes,
and so many of them like we are all that,
We are all the seed of something, We are all
the vessel for something. Whether or not we accept the
assignment is on us. But I think it matters to

(51:55):
connect us to the bigger picture, which you are my
bigger picture. Your audience is my bigger picture. It is
important that I showed up to this because I am
connecting to someone universally who needs to hear this particular story.

(52:15):
It's the reason why we've come together. You know what
I mean, you are so right, and I just I
hear people your listeners. I hope that they like feel
themselves valuable from even listening to y'all every week. You know, Like, yeah,
it matters, It does matter, and it matters now. I
say that in so many, so many different ways, Like

(52:39):
it just it matters so much right now because we're
living in a world where and I've set this on
so many different episodes, we're living in a time where
everyone is doing every and I say everyone meeting them people,
they're doing everything that they can't to silence you, to
eradicate you, to get rid of you. And so I
think it is so important right now for you all
to recognize that in whatever way you need to tell
your story, whether it's a book, whether it's a you know, shit,

(53:02):
I started my own newsletter because I said, you know
what these people are for me, my own newsletter, and
I'll do it, do it my way, that's it. There's
such an importance to that. Yeah, And I especially as
a as a journalist who has been doing this thing
for almost twenty years. Mawag crazy. There's so many news
outlets that don't exist anymore. There's so you know, uh,

(53:27):
flailing publications and things like that. One of the things
that I really love most about journalism was getting to
tell people's story like a real like this is the
truth of someone's life that I'm putting out here, This
is the truth of what's happening that I'm sharing, And
that to me makes me a historian to your point,

(53:50):
like these people are trying to kill us, Like these
people are trying to revise history. These people are trying
to literally erase everything that's not white and male from
the world from existence. So as a journalist, it's important
for me to make sure that people know we are

(54:11):
Like you knew, you know that we were here, you
know that we are here, you know that we're going
to be in the future. And I think, like as
you know, in the media, it's that's like one of
the most important parts of our jobs. And when people
like you step out, y'all step out and create these
spaces to where you're able to have the newsletter, have

(54:33):
the stories be told, we can't be erased. If we're
doing that, you know what I mean, like and try
as they might, like the people are still able to
share what's happening, and we have to do like, we
have to do that. We see now like how oppressive

(54:54):
Amerthood can be. And this is supposed to be the
freest place in the world. Oh that's a damn lie,
a whole dadda freewag girl.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
I broke, Wow, God is.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Killing us lavery and I take slavery. Yes, it's it
is giving nothing sis. But yes, you are you are
so right, You are so right. But I think everything
you said is so valuable. I think this week, specifically,
we've seen so many things happen. Black women specifically are

(55:31):
you know, are under attacking so many different ways. And
I think it is so important for specifically our black
CIS women that are listening to this show to hear
that they have a voice, that they have a story
to tell, and that ultimately you are you are the
person that gets gets to write your story the way
you want to write it. And so I love that
and I think it is it's important for us all

(55:52):
so will remember the people who came before us and
continue to do that work. And so just all of
this is a great reminder. So with that being said,
now that we have encouraged you to go watch the
uh go rewatch pop Stars if you know, you know,
we will come back with more shows, fun time reminiscing
with our guests, will be back into second.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Ooh girl, what's poppen?

Speaker 3 (56:16):
We are a black family and we don't get into
what's popping this week now that we literally to this
conversation because of the time of record, but we think
it's worth talking about.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
So this time it comes out.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Last week we have ago we saw a lot of
folks of the timeline get in there for things about
Kevin Stage, who is a Christian influencer that he supports
LGQ plus people. John won't say more about that in
a bit, but probably an interesting question for us. How
do you see the way people quickly turn on influencers

(56:49):
when they say you spend on the internet does not
agree with and what do you think it's about the
relationship relationship to relatability and perfection online and what like
like like vida like got above all that comes to
relationship with spirituality over relationship to community.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
That's a lot, right, That's a lot. A man that
is definitely a man that is a man. So I
don't know if you have thoughts, Danielle or I do,
I do? I do? Okay. So the thing first, the

(57:35):
turning on of influencers or you know, beloved people, celebrated people,
people that have gotten popular and beloved. They may say
something unsavory or say something that folks disagree with, namely
this Kevi on stage moment. I'm also thinking about someone
like Tabitha Brown, who was a legit angel on earth

(57:59):
and said some things that have rubbed people the wrong way.
I know both of these people personally, and I also
would like to think that because of their presence online
that parasocially, yeah, you know these people, because they are
who they say they are. What we experience online might

(58:22):
be just a pinch, but it also represents who they are.
They're kind, loving, gentle people, people who love God, and
people who love God in the way that I believe
you're supposed to, which means love all. And so even

(58:43):
when this come back to Wendy Williams for a second,
even when Tabitha went viral one time because Wendy had
said some commentary about her husband and Tabitha's husband and
the fact that Tabitha retired her husband from LAPD and
that was always something he wanted to do. Obviously, working
as a police officer is a dangerous job, but she

(59:06):
ended up being able to retire him and give him
the gift of having his own sports basketball coaching situation.
So it wasn't also like, oh, I'm a retiring him,
he's just kicking back. I'm retiring him from working in
that way, but yeah, he's you know. But either way,
when Wendy said what she said about her husband, which

(59:28):
is basically like you can't trust these people, like who
knows what will happen? You know, this is a silly
thing to do. X y Z, Tabatha took the time
to respond as a Christian person with literal love, and
she said, you know, I when people say things like this,
I understand the hurt that comes from them, and I

(59:50):
pray that you are loved in this way. I pray
that you can experience a love like I have. I
pray that you are able to trust and put you
you know, partnership and be in partnership with someone you love.
All this is paraphrasing, but she literally responded in a
way that was kind you know, and if you know,
you know, a little shady, a little wink in a nudge, but.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Like, uh oh well, bless your heart, yes, very very heart.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
You know. And also at the time when he was
dealing with her very public break up, divorce, baby, all
the things, so yes, that was from her and I
really respect and it will always stick to me how
Tabitha responded, because that's who she is. That's the kind
of love that she wants to spread to the world.
keV is very similar. He just wants people to laugh

(01:00:42):
and he wants to spread love. He's intentional about how
much he loves his wife publicly, how much he loves
his children publicly, how much he is not a cheater publicly.
Like he is very adamant about being this very stand
up which is normal, but it's sadly not normal black man,

(01:01:04):
solid and he just so happens to be a churchy
black man who was raised in the church and believes
all the things that you believe when you're raised in
the church. However, he is a man of a certain
age where you in the forties, if you're in that generation,
you're on the fourth level. We have had the luxury
of being able to mature and question things in different

(01:01:28):
ways that maybe the generation before us did not. And
the world is a bit more open to us as
we've had the Internet since we were in our teens,
and we've been able to have discussions that are larger
than our group, our stoop, our block. We've been able
to have worldly conversations and points of views and visibility

(01:01:52):
into different microcosms of society that maybe we never got to.
You know, that generation before us didn't get to see
so easily. Oh why are they pushing the gay agenda?
They're not. You just can see it more now because
everything visible now. So when keV shares that he essentially

(01:02:15):
he don't care who you sleep with.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
He a good person, that's what he said.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
People just to have met and created bonds with people
who consider themselves to be in the gay community. And
I don't even want that. That sounded weird who are gay?

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
And it's afterpetual people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
He thinks that they are guess what, people, because that's
all we are, are, all people, and it doesn't matter
what letter you identify with. If you are good, you
are good, and that's fine and that's good enough for him.
He doesn't care otherwise you would think he would have said,

(01:03:05):
Jesus is gay. You know what I mean, baby, the
way these people Jesus goes down to the drag show
and Jesus. I'm a Christian and I believe that God
is not a heat I think God is a vavem.
But you know what I mean, like you, so does

(01:03:25):
Phara con look that up? So anyway, for all the
Christians out there, listen, we all are able to represent
this very vast idea of Christianity. I get it, but
I find it very strange that textbook Christianity constantly drags

(01:03:49):
homosexuality in a way that feels crazy. I wish you
felt this way about pedophilia. I wish you felt this
way about murder rape, because you know, I have a
family where my uncle is a pastor, and he raped

(01:04:11):
my cousin and got her pregnant, and she had this
baby and raised this baby. And it wasn't until she
was a grown woman, because she was definitely a child
when she was pregnant and her child turned twenty years
old where she understood that her whole life was trauma

(01:04:31):
and she pressed charges and you would have thought that
she did the raping. Yeah, and my family, How dare
you put him in prison after all these he did
something that put yes, that should have put him in
That retality, to me is everything that's wrong with Christianity.
I love my family. I think it's jacked up that

(01:04:55):
that's the reaction to a young woman being pregnant and
pregnated by her father, who is an actual man of God.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
They also my family also has that very limited unsavory
view around homosexuality, and it just it drives me crazy
because I'm like, isn't the idea like love and love
at all close? Wasn't Jesus back then hanging out with
the hose and the criminals and this is and that? Yeah,

(01:05:31):
wasn't he doing that? He wasn't like I only hang
out with pastors. No, Jesus wasn't doing that. That's that
we went away for forty days and forty nine. He
was sick of our shit. I really believe Jesus said,
y'all niggas is crazy and I'm sick of this shit.
I'm going away because you can do it. I love

(01:05:52):
everything you're saying because I think this wakes up a
really good question, and I think it it really for us,
you know, I think you said a lot of really
good things, and again, I'm really sorry that that happened
to your family member. I think, yeah, I posted something
yesterday and so for those of you, if you go
back and you look in my timeline, you'll see you know,

(01:06:14):
I said, I wish we had we held our pastors
and we held the people in our family doing terrible
things to the same weight that we hold influencers and
other people who are talking about their loves and their things.
I wish that we you know, the family who voted
for Trump, I wish you would go to them and
you would have these arguments with them over having arguments

(01:06:35):
with these influencers over their views and things.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
That that's where my head is right now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
But I think as a people, one of the things
that and I'll say this, whether people agree or not,
you choose to follow them, you choose to give them coin,
you choose to support them. And so when they say
or do something that pisses you off or that you
don't like or okay, you gave them the platform to
say it. That's number one. But the other thing is

(01:07:00):
that people are not vending machines for your own projections.
The reality is that a lot of people are working
on their own unhealed shit, and sometimes it happens in
the comment section. So a lot of the stuff that
we're seeing, a lot of the vitrio, a lot of
the stuff that people are saying to keV on stage,
and I want to say this and for whoever in
this space can hear it. We reached out to keV

(01:07:22):
because I wanted keV to come on for them, for
us to be able to say thank you for you know,
not just to have keV on and you know, because
again we're not I was not trying to pile on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
I was literally trying.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
I want keV to come on and say thank you
so much for saying that out loud, because there's so
many influencers who will take dollars from queer people or
from you know, queer spaces and places and will never
talk about the relationship or the connection that they have
to the community. So that's right. The thing I wanted
to say to keV to his face and say just
thank you for being such a great representation. And I've

(01:07:54):
even posted this too. I think keV is a great father.
I think keV is a great comedian. I think he
does a great job of balancing humor with humanity. Like,
there's so many things I like about keV on stage,
and so I think, for me, what frustrates me in
this moment is I truly believe that Kevin keV is
the reflection of Christianity that I want to follow. And

(01:08:18):
it baffles me that there are so many people in
this world who would get mad at a man who says,
love your neighbor, love your neighbor.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Do what Jesus did and loved.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
The people who who.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Cares because you eat ass, I know you eat.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Ass, but also what we care about? Why do we care?
And I just I think there's so many My biggest
thing is there's so many people who and I think
this is what the right has done so well. And
I think that's part of the reason why they're doing
so well. They've created such a moral high ground that
they want other people to to feel like they have

(01:08:59):
some sort of leverage over you. And and and what
he said, it hits It hit a nerve, you know,
this idea of you you basically him saying, come down
a notch, get off your high horse.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Nobody's different here.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
It challenges other people to not be terrible, and I
think a lot of people I'll just say this, This
is this conversation is a great example to why you
will never catch me in a church. It is a
very great representation of why I say I want nothing.
And again I have my one of my really good friends,
she is a two of my friends actually huge staunch Christiany,

(01:09:39):
of the Christians, of the Christians, I love them down.
But what I will say is when we talk about
church and we talk about the Bible and all these things,
I always say I want nothing to do with it
because because of this, the way that people, none of
none of you can, none of you can walk on water,
none of you can make wine listen, and that how

(01:10:01):
they at what I what I find out, what I
find funny about Christianity is that it's often al I
cart you do know what I mean, It's often me,
you know, and I think that that's really cool and
I'm gonna do that. And it's like, don't nobody be

(01:10:24):
going as hard as my Muslim brothers and sisters, you
know what I mean? Like they really when you sign up,
you sign up. I gotta do it all and I'm
devoted and I'm doing the fasting and I'm doing my
praying and I'm washing my feet, and I'm like, I like,
if we gonna claim Christianity, baby, do it right. If

(01:10:46):
you're gonna do it, do it all the way. Be
doing it and stop trying to act like that's the
only thing that is happening in the Bible, because we
can go down a whole separate thing with the Bible,
but like, let's please stop acting as if that is
the one heal that Jesus and them wanted you to

(01:11:08):
die on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
And I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
When I get up there, I'm gonna have a lot
of questions to God because I'm gonna say, you didn't
say nothing about x Y. But for some reason, for
some reason.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
It was all no, why am I in it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
You see how you're thrown in. They was doing a
lot of rape and statutorially up in that thing. I've
been reading my book I have. It's disturbing in there
a lot, and I just find that people don't even
be talking about half of the stuff that's right. And
I'm just I want to know where the gay train,

(01:11:44):
like who started it? Who started who started? As a
great way to see out of this little but yes, I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Ask those jannalistic questions.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Nigger who started started this, Let's get let's get to
the let's get to the bottom, let's get to the
naity gritty. Put your glasses on. You know, who was it?
Who is it that? What's her name on? That old
white lady who used to be asking questions as a journalist.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
She would always asked some wild questions.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Who starting?

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Yeah, thank you for saying always, but she could ask
some good old question.

Speaker 6 (01:12:38):
I feel like this, this moment makes me think of
like the like the trod right the trod wife trend
right now, like the traditional wife trend, which is like
this idea of like people going back into purity culture,
which to me is like like I'm like, oh, this
is this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
This is the recession indicator.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Yes, my people, you're being holy again because they.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Are so they can they take them out of the collection. Okay, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
But you know, I was having a conversation cowardsation of the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Friend recently actually about something similar.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
And we were just talking about how like to your
point about it about it being all a cart, like
it became all a cart because people realize at some point,
like the rules of the Good Book did not apply.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
To the world anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Like you can't be sudden, you can't be just stunning
host in the street like it is not there are
laws against that now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Just twelve year old daughter and be like you know what,
that's my wife.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
That's my wife, right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Like like you you can't be out here sacrificing lambs
and ship.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
It's just it just does not sit well with the
stomach or this vriod.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
And so I think, like, I think it's interesting that,
like I truly wonder for people, like what is their
barrier when it comes to like queer is I mean
you know, like you know, like like like there was
there was this comment that someone made about like the
true conversation that that they wanted kept to have was
about people whose lifestyle is aligne or don't online with scripture.

(01:14:13):
And I'm like like and I and and I, And
then I was like, maybe no one's life a line
of scripture, Like no like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
To do it? Like is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Like not even the pastors like it, and like a
go ahead, and definitely like your scriptures of scripture in
the world, like there are many other scriptures out there
besides yours. And so I think you like like and
me and my friend discussions, and I was telling her like,
I don't I I can never understand people's like so

(01:14:47):
deep commitment to religion in general, like I understand the
idea or you or like commit to religion at like
like look like at any cost right, And it feels
like if and I hate like I did say it
like it feels like bondage. It feels like it feels
like bondage of you are being so held to believe

(01:15:08):
that that that you refuse to like go through some
discomfort to expand your beliefs, like if God like if
if if someone's thinking, like, oh I can't accept some sexuality.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Girl like this it seems a pretty natural thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
And if you love the natural order of things and like,
you should embrace the like natural order of sexual interests.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Like when do we get to the point where your
Christianity becomes about me?

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
And like and like like like is this not about.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Because in general, to master being ourselves as selfish as
that sounds, it's a lifelong commitment once you are in
this vessel, it's a lifelong commitment to this vessel. Now, yes,
things are affecting us, Things are impacting us, Things are
doing things, yes, because that's what it is. We interact

(01:16:03):
with all of it. But why is your individual belief system,
why does it need to apply to me? That's weird.
That's weird. Like I think it's strange that you think
you can't even interact with normally or love and sit
with people who believe differently. And I'm not even talking

(01:16:26):
about sexuality. I'm talking about just even different beliefs systems.
Like if me being gay is bothersome to you in
this in such a heavy way, then this Buddhism should
bother you in the same way. Then that should bother
you in the same way that they're mixing fabrics. They're
over there eating pork, Like all of there bother you

(01:16:46):
in the same way. Baby, if all sins are way
the same, I don't understand why my religious system needs
to interact with yours. Like at the end of the day,
like I don't believe in people being Satanist, but like
I'm not going to be mad at you for believing

(01:17:07):
in the devil. Baby, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
That's and if you do, you know well.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
You do. You're welcoming, that's my thing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
You are.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
But I'm scared.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Yeah, like I feel like I just feel like like
like I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Not I'm not saying this about I understand it's not
just about worshiping like the devil. It's about like like
some other stuff like worshiping like it's just another form
of worship of like a different deity and the all
but all, Yes, we got to cut to one more break.

(01:17:53):
So you know, for those among them, for those what's
what's if you also scriptuation? Let me give you some
john Okay, those who is without thinning among them, let
them be the first toe casa son out who they are.
And if you can't cast a stone, bitch, that's because
you sent it as well too. So think on that
for a second. Look you, y'a, and you were gonna

(01:18:17):
stone se cass baby, Okay, glass houses in glass houses,
breaking mirror, sister, looking night, Mira, Oh my god, I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Take one more break.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
We'll come back you s no man pants, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Oh, no man Pam. All right, y'all. So we are
at our uh, we're headed towards the end of the show,
and we're gonna end it like we always do. We're
gonna talk about our guest ma'am's and our no man
pants this week. This is ultimately where we talk about
the things that we either are giving kudos and we're clapping,
or ultimately we're using our hands to slap somebody because
they've been done something stupid to piss us off. So

(01:18:59):
would that be said. I'm gonna start off with my
yes ma'am, my yes ma'am this week. So I don't
know if any of you have been following it, but ultimately,
as you all know, I do work for an LGBTQ
nonprofit and I also am in the comms department, and
so that means that I'm always following stories that are
connected to or are related to LGBTQ youth, and specifically
this week, there has been a lot of conversation around

(01:19:20):
the help that LGBTQ, specifically transgender youth get in terms
of their health. And ultimately, long story short, there was
a bill that went up and it basically got knocked down,
and so I wanted to say yes ma'am to that.
There was a US district judge. His name is Mustafa
Taba Hi. I hope I've said that the right way.

(01:19:41):
I tried to sound it out. You did, you see
I was struggling child, but Ultimately, he wrote, this is
an unseerious He said, unserious leaders are unsafe. This is
what read and his basically what he shared on April
eighteenth ruling striking down the so called Kennedy Declaration, a
dangerous and unlawful policy issued by Health and Human Service
Secretary Robert Kennedy Junior. Now, this is the problem that

(01:20:05):
I have. I'm going to try to be as quick
as I can. This man sounds like he's not well.
Like when he talks, he sounds like his vocal cords
are frying, like he's just not a well. He just
says and does some really unseeriously gross things, and I'm
I'm like, we're taking advice from this man who is

(01:20:27):
not well. So anyway, the salt to penalize doctor for
providing medically necessary health care for transgender youth, and a
sharply worded rebuke, the court formally invalidated this declaration and
barred the federal government from enforcing it. So this is
a really good thing, specifically, not necessarily just because one

(01:20:48):
it's it's going to help trends. Kids get, specifically trans
youth get the help that they need and the care
that they need. But ultimately two, it's just reminding people
that like, there are still and this is the thing,
Like every time I start to feel like, oh my god,
this world is falling apart, we have some really terrible
people in specific spaces. Then we have moments like this
where someone who can do the right thing does the

(01:21:08):
right thing and reminds me that there is still some
good in the world. So I just definitely wanted to
shout out him and anyone who helped him kind of
do what he needed to do to make sure that
we can protect our quer youth. I do know that
more stuff is coming down the pipeline. Please continue to
stay abreast. I've been saying it, and I'm gonna say it,
and I'll keep saying it again. This just because it
does not impact you does not mean that you should

(01:21:30):
not be worried about it. To my next point that
this is where it connects my no man Pam. This week,
I had a whole other one that I was going
to talk about. I'm gonna talk about this real quick
because I also want to jump on the train, the
hate train, because I do not like this woman. I
want to say with a very strong fuck you, Caitlyn Jenner.

(01:21:53):
I want to say fuck you because you knew what
Fuck you. I'm gonna say it again, fuck you who
because you ultimateoo, you knew you like you. There are
so many times in places and spaces where people have
tried to correct you on the right thing to do

(01:22:15):
with your platform. And now that now that this shit
is at your door, you can't travel because so I
don't know if you all have been following her, if
you're if you're like aware of what's happening with Caitlyn Jenis,
but basically, long story short, yes, she's been going off
online because I guess she tried to go out of
the country, and because her passport is now marked mail,
she can't travel. And she's pissed off because she's basically saying,

(01:22:39):
I voted for this man and I thought he had
my back, but in reality, what end up happening is
is he basically bit her on her back, and so
now she's all pissed off about it, and I'm just
saying fuck you, because I'm going you knew we everywhere.

Speaker 5 (01:22:53):
Even before fifteen twenty sixteen, when Trump threw his name,
and that we knew what this man's saifing it for
and now that you can't do what you need to do,
where you can't quote unquote live your life the way
you want to live your life.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
You're now crying to this man online asking him to.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Come help you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
Nah. Fuck you ho, Like, get the fuck out of
here with that, Like you're you're you are the reason
why so many of us are in the situation that
we're in. And I have her and all these other people.
Oh forgive me for vote. Nah, fuck you too, and
I'm gonna keep staying out on the air. Fuck you too,
because you ultimately are the reason why we're in this boat.
And I have no cry baby cry, white people beeping

(01:23:31):
and ies. Put your hand on your hip, let your
backbone slip. I have no I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
I'm super done trying to pass. Oh. We need to,
we need to, we need to be kind to the people. No,
you knew what you knew. The check you wrote was
for Jakovia or Washington Mutual, and you knew it was
gonna bounce. I'm over it alone. No, Can I just

(01:24:01):
say that your no, ma'am is low key? Oh, yes, ma'am,
because I love it when it's just the justice of
it all. It's so poetic when ignorant gets what they deserve.
Really thought, for sure, voting for this really thought like

(01:24:23):
all of you, all of you, your little Hispanics, your
blacks for Trump, the men, everybody except black women because
our numbers were correct, correct, Like y'all really thought, like
even on the very basic level of understanding of anything political,

(01:24:47):
to think that this man would do anything that would
benefit anyone except him. Mm hmm. It's just hilarious. It's
it's honestly just hilarious to me. And therefore, kay look
at you.

Speaker 7 (01:25:01):
Girl, egg on your face in that interview right because
they're interviewing with with uh Tommy whoever her name is,
and Tommy's face is like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Blaine face, you know. Tommy is like, why am I
having here?

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
Like, don't make me like Tommy, Tommy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
Is a despicable person, Tommy does not come from and
she is in here like yeah, girl, Like even Tommy
is like, why are you surprise?

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Girl?

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Like why we both voted for this, sister?

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
Like like like the fact that Kayln was like, you know,
I thought it was strange.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
I I I got, I got my girl.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
You in the demographic of people that he.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Has realized and I can't, I can't, and now I
can't travel internationally.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Well you knew what coming?

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Yeah, I don't know why you you clown ship girl,
don't beat gallon the circus comes to your front door.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
So, speaking of big eyes, I'm gonna make a specific reference.
So I don't know if you all been watching, but
basically this week in Russia, there was a uh, what
do you call it? A circus that had these lions,
and the thing fell down and one of the lions
jumped out, and everybody was like screaming, like ah, And

(01:26:30):
I'm thinking to myself, baby, you you've been in the
room with the lions this whole time. Now everybody got
I'm scared of that bit you were in a You
you put yourself in the room with the lions.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Now you're sad that you were gonna get bit.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
You knew, you knew, Yes, chopped Jordan, what are yours
for this week?

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Honestly, I don't have a man.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
The world is the world's the world's bad, baby, the
world bad people suck and my Miami. I was gonna
go to my city government once again because Lord Jesus
mayor is choosing violence every day. I hate to say it,
so like so if people, let's not we need to discuss.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
This, We're not gonna say their name. I'm just googling
they are.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
He is a queer person of color, but he does
things that are against are against color. And one of
those things that's happening is the mayor is involved in
the city budget for next year. And in this new
budget there is a pool of twelve million dollars that
go as grants art and culture grants organizations across the

(01:27:40):
city that like like our local theater, our local prior organization,
uh like for two local theaters, other arts organizations that
bring out tourism to the city. And these are grants
of like thousand dollars from threeand dollars big grants, right,
And the proposed budget cuts all those grants while by

(01:28:05):
which is twel million dollars out of the budget, while
increasing police budget, I think by damn twenty million dollars
and the fire and rescue budget by the same. So roughly, sorry,
so I think Maybee, it's like it's a fourteen and
sixteen million dollars but like roughly thirty million dollars is
going increasing the police and Fire rescue PUSUE. Right, the

(01:28:26):
police budget has increased over one hundred million dollars in
the past three years. So you keep finding money for policing,
but less money for the arts and culture, which arguably
brings a big about of tourism. For example, I know,
like Sandygo Pride or the organization whereceives a big, a
big grant from from from from the from the city.
They bring in over twenty five million dollars in tourism

(01:28:48):
dollars for So you're telling me you're gonna cut a
three hundred k grant that is really like beneficial to
them on they're doing their work when your ROI is
hundred percent of that if not more, huh huh interesting
just interesting. And so yeah, because I feel like our

(01:29:09):
mayor is just like, I'm not understanding more cuts library,
more cuts to parks are wreck And then he says
like I'm hearing the community of what the community wants
to be safe.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Literally, no one's saying this.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
I want to know who are you asking because no
one's saying policing us more safe.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Everyone's saying more art.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
More parks, more reduced parking costs, libraryes on like these
things are these are public safety? These public safety having
thriving arts and culture programs, having facilities open for people
late at later in the evening. That's what keeps people safe,
not policing. Yeah nom pam to that and got here.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
That's a lot low key. They do light. The fire
department does deserve more because I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Like la, yeah, sorry, yes, I will let me let me.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
Laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Love them down rate work. They deserve the rate money.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
They have a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Regardless.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
We see what Athena goes through every week on nine
one one. Yes, well the police police, sorry, were thinking
about what's his name?

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
But Robbie and Chimney goes every week. Okay, whatever they want,
I will probably give them, baby, yes, but we don't.
I don't think the police needs to because not because
because now no police is out here driving uh car
every year every year. Why y'all got the e V cars.

(01:30:42):
Technology is off the chain for doing too much. You
doing street surveillance cameras on the right, you're going afford that,
but you can't for arts.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
May be getting robots. I'm pretty sure they got the
little dog robot running. I hate the doggy robots.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
I cannot stand anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
Yeah, they literally have toys. I've been told, like especially
when it comes to elly, like their budget is a
very similar thing, and they have like actual toys. Why
do I need like the latest tasers like now, like
it just waste Yep, it's just a waste of money.

(01:31:25):
And and I will say, I will go to my
grave saying this wind has a police officer ever really
helped anybody. I have my car broken into down.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Nigro said, oh, we no longer spend a unit out
for that type of crime I witnessed.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
I witnessed my own robbery and called them against against,
against my joy and they're like, they.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Were like here's they were like, here's a link. Fill
this out. They link in the words of resputial Animore,
you do it that you're paying, I swear, but I'm

(01:32:11):
laughing because you're out here's such a joke. It's such
a because this was dealt with like a crime like that.
And I was just like wow, I felt so I
could only imagine how running. But I felt so violated
because I'm just out here with a broken window and
I'm like there here and then I support me, Yes,

(01:32:35):
support me, bitch, and they said, take this leak and
have a good day. My god, my god, what a
time to be alive. And yet they continue to get
more money out of us. I can't, I cannot, I cannot.
But anyway, we could go off on a radom tangent
and be there all day talking about how terrible a

(01:32:55):
cab all.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Day over here.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
But anyway, please send us your thoughts, your feedback, your
emails to blame pod at gmail dot com. This episode
was so fun, it was so informational. This, like I said,
a dream, truly a dream come true. Please share your
your thoughts via social media by interacting with our post
Instagram threads. You all know where we are, Black Fatfin Pod. Danielle,

(01:33:18):
Where can the dolls find you if they want to
look for your content, anything that's coming up that you
want to promote. Of course y'all can find me on
all the social medias at the Danielle Young thhe Danielle
Young not to ease like Megnae Stallion. But like when
I say the daniel Young, it doesn't sound right, so
I always say v yes, daniel saying, but then people

(01:33:40):
think it's too easy. Yeah, and also follow me on
YouTube at Danielle Young TV where you can see a
lot of my interviews and just some comedy, some fun
things here and there. And yeah, nothing too much going
on right now other than I have a cover story

(01:34:01):
that's going to come out at the end of this month.
When does this episode come out?

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
That comes out next Tuesday?

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Okay, so it'll come out the Yeah, it don't come
out the twenty ninth, I think perfect. It'll be right
after the cover so I can say this is a
story for Hattie Magazine. Shout outs to Jazz who started
Hatti Magazine, which is basically black women owned, black woman led,
cinema focused magazine. And this is like, she is Kadishah James.

(01:34:30):
This is very for us, by us in a world
where magazines feel like they are dying. Her magazine is print.
You can hold it in your hand. It's gorgeous. And
this is going to be her second issue and I'm
doing the cover story for that, and it's for the
movie Is God is.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Ah So cool? I'm so here for it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
I interviewed the director writer Slash director. It was her
directorial debut, which is a whole different set of freaking
inspiration and also the star Kara and Mallory who plays
the twins. Y'all that movie is everything. Make sure y'all goes.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
I believe it. I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
It is giving us a lot for black girls. It's
mythology is so beautifully done and written acted Sterling K. Brown,
Dibica Fox. Oh, they like, Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Think I already got my ticket TB.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Yeah that makes that makes it. Yeah, I'll be I've
read it twice and I will be going another two
times once it comes out. Yes, well I love that.
Where about you, Queen Joe working the dolls?

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Find you, of course, my love.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
You can find me at Jojo Daniels across all socials,
my website John Danees dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
If not there, you can find me.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
You know if since people love God so much, as
can God to heal all problems and see.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
What happens in prayer, A find and finds, let's get
to go. Let's go. If God don't do it, it
won't get done. If God won't do it, it won't
get done.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
That is when mother was sitting on that when she
sat on that bench, she said that she said a word,
because that's how I feel about everything.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
If God don't do it. Yeah, yeah, it's above me. Now,
it is above me. Now, it's above me. It is
really above me. With that being said, as for being bye,
find me on all socials at doctor John Paul Being
a Mess and talking trash. You can find me online
at w DO doctor John John Paul Ware. You can

(01:36:40):
learn more about my consulting and my book and all
of the places I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Going to be in the next couple of months.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
And now you can also join me over down to
the Substack where I am pushing this new movement called
the Unfit Professional. You can join for five dollars a
month where you can learn more and we can talk
and go back and forth about the different ways that
we can continue to support one another in different spaces
and places that are not built for us. So, with

(01:37:07):
that being said, add down to Substack the Unfit Professional.
You'll see my big ass, beautiful face smiling and gleaming
again talking about what we can do to support one another.
You can also head over down to Hulu you can
watch who I Am Meant to Be, where I talk
about this podcast, how this podcast happens, and how me
and Joho are trying to redefine podcasting for black fat

(01:37:29):
fem folks all over the world. With that being said,
this has been another show Stay black fat femine fabulous
and remember what, joho.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
We may not be a cup of tea girl, but
get yourself some mater. This isfect time to stthing. Bring
about my health and focus on yours.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
A bitch, okay, worry about you and yours and stop
worrying about mine, I said, and I said again.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
If there's a.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Scription for y'all who got shark curtains that got dirt
at the bottom of it, let us know until then
buy a new one. Worry about that scripture. How about that?
I love us for Realite you next week. Bye.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
The Black Fatfem podcast is executive produced by Joey Patt
and Doctor John Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
All content related to the show was edited by Chris Rogers.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
This has been a podcast by iHeartMedia and Doctor John Paul, LLC.
The Black Fat Fem Podcasts where all the intersections of
a dandy are celebrated.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Honey, I know that's right.

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