Show Me What's for Me! (Featuring David Brandyn)

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hey, everyone, Welcome back to another episode, a brand new
episode of the Blackfair Fair Podcast where all the interceptions
of identity are celebrate ted.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm one of your hosts, John.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Also known as doctor John Paul, and it's twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
And while you all might have moved on.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
To achieve things in your your resolutions even though we
told you not to, you know, I'm still in twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I just I want to take it back real quick.
I want to I just want to second.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Bo Jangles promised me so bow Jangles. I'm gonna need
you to come to the front of the room. Yes,
I'm gonna need you to come to the front. Put
your ear close up to the microphone or to the earphone,
you know. I just want to know where is the
Bojangles out promised in lawsuit?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Always it supposed to be here, I was. I was
promised a.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Bul Jakey, you're opening one up in New York. I
see how I admitted it open and you got a
second one that's opened in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, but I ain't forgot.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
You promised me Bowberry biscuits and I'm gonna need them.
So I just wanted to say that I'm still in
twenty twenty five with the hope that I'm gonna get
a bowberry biscuit with with my chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
But anyway, how are you, Joho? How are things? How
do you you know?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
I just want to say for you say that because
there's supposed to be a Schmackery's Cookies, which is also
based in New York. It's supposed to open up lookly
like a block away from me, and it said opening
summer twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Six and it's still amaze.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I just want to know where we are. But anyway,
it's lovely. It's your best Sie Jordan aka Joho. And
you know I told you on this recently and I'm
gonna share with y'all. If you see me a fat
bitch working out in the gym, please do not, and
I beat this, do not come up to me and
say I'm proud of you for being here.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Baby.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I don't know who you are.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
I don't know who you are, I don't know stranger danger.
I've been going for months. No need to say you're
proud of me for being here.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Girl.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
First, fast, the first thing you don't do. Second, please
please don't ask me if I need some pointers and
what to do, baby girl.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
The formerst for me. Okay, don't then nails full you.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I'll scratch a bitch up and then do not try
and do not don't ask me any don't solicit your
point your your pointers to me either. No, respectfully, my
my trainer is right here on my phone.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't need you to just say thing to me. Actually,
you know how mine in my business, it's a free thing.
You pay. You pay for this membership, but you could
do for free as mind your business.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Come on, please come on.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I literally like, respectfully, fuck you a gym like my mom.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'm in here but bop into songs. And this dude
again was like, hey, I'm proud.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
For being here, and I was like and I was like, oh,
there's for the people here that you guys too, But
you tell me the fat bit.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I was like, okay, I was like, and that's how
it goes.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Him and I was like I was offering, and then
I was like silent, mm hmmm, please go away.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Please? Did you maybe my pack up my head on
a system to you? Girl? Anyways? Now I'm more, I'll
just say I'm y'all, bet y'all. My damn Jock. Okay,
I cannot stand y'all.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Now that being said, family, today we have a spikey
conversation with y'all.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I'm gonna tell me to share our guests with you today.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
I've been finding them for quite some time and I
loved his work around sexual health and advice around relationships.
He is a creator and educator and the host of
his own new show, but Queen after Dark. Who just
said a live shows when Los Angeles him to the
hot today David Brandon, How, I.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Thank you for being here, baby.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
Thank you, look, thank you for having me. Y'all know
I love this podcast. And what the fuck is going
on at the gym?

Speaker 7 (04:14):
I'm gagging?

Speaker 1 (04:16):
You know people feel in the showers. Yeah, Like, that's
the only thing I want you to approach me for.
Don't approach me for not.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm happy to being here baby, in the sauna, Like, yeah,
let's go back somewhere else, but don't.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I'm proud of you right here now.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
It is very weird. It is very weird. It's probably
why I got a poloton.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, I got going to the gym with.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
These fuckers because what's happening is, you know, what's happening.
That man, That man is in someone's life who needs motivation. Right,
He got a wife at home, He got a girlfriend
at home, and he ain't talking to her.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
He ain't talking too.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
He's at the gym looking random strangers to wish well
when he has people in his life that need that
from his he's giving it to.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
The wrong What we say like those get your kids?
They they got three kids. You ain't seen ye are
trying to bed in the gym. Grind time for this away.

Speaker 8 (05:20):
Are weird.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
It may be a new year, but as you see,
we're still in the same ship.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
So you don't kick off this show that you do
every week by getting our Grandma said she can on
her flowers and are still here? Segment since the Sexy
Butch Queen himself about sexual health education. What was it
like when y'all were growing up? When did you actually
feel like you had got education? I'll start with David
and so I know for me, I had done a

(05:47):
reproduction class in fifth grade.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I get to consent.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
My parents had to come as well too, and so
I was my first like four range understand.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Pause, your parents had to come with you to the school. Okay,
I've never heard that. I'm sorry, very few parents and kids.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Maybe was like a group of like ten ten groups
r like ten parents and kids, like ten groups of
parents and like a school of hundreds, right, And so
I'll give my I'll give my parents videos for saying like,
we think it's important that you understand this. And my
dad was a so when not doing a goo job
explaining the birds and the bees, he'd be like, you
got birds, and we got bees and then you got
you and I was like, no, d My dad was like, this.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Bird had lobbies and I was like, okay, how did
the bees get.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Different species?

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (06:37):
So that was the fifth grade, and then I were
in seventh grade. We had a we had a unit
in my like science class. I was also about reduction
and they just watched actional birth videos like every day
for remember. I was like, well, this traumatized girl. Honestly
that awakening because I said, I do not want that experience.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
In my life.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
And I was like wow, and you know people who
give birth that way because you'll be doing the please.
And I think my actual like adequate education around sex
came way beyond school, came like came like when probably
I was in university and there was actual education about

(07:20):
especially mental sex with men.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Right, there was like education about about men.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
It was mainly about this is a penis, this is
a vagina? Here is like I got ano be down.
I mean it was down easy. Got that through my education.
Nothing about actual like sexual health and sexual witness. And
so that was all university and it wasn't throue classes.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
It was through.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
The the the the g S A.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah yes, and hands on practice very let did you go.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
But it was it was really from like really from
like the gas because they were they would have sexual
health like like workshops the part with like you know,
like in my community college and have like a local
clinic that would do HIV testing STI testing.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
And would bring them in education that way. So that
was a my okland right So that yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well so at this point my Commuity college, I was
already in Ocean Side, so so so back in the
Bay it was just my like my kindergarend through high
school education. But so I get anything about testing. I
mean there was a GSA that went to it. Really
like no on's talking about sex just having sex. So
it was like it but in commy college when I
actually and my joying that GSA is when we actually

(08:35):
started talking about like sexual and particular member we did.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I wasn't I was a theater girl.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
And we did the Normal Heart, which is uh if
it's a very strong play from by Larry Kramer, focusing
on the HIV AIDS crisis in the eighties, and so
as our director encourage everyone to get tested, not and
like off the only queer person maybe two of the
two who of us we're queer in the actual cast
was for all like straight allies playing quick characters and now,

(09:02):
and we had to do a whole like discussion about
like sex and the eighties, which is actually really cool.
And I was because everyone was like so scared for
the testing, right and sometimes because a brudded if you
get you get free projects to be get tested. So
I was like grobing testing for years, right, and they
were all like they're all like, we're like shook and scared.

(09:24):
It was really fasting traned to see that. I was like,
come on ally ship and that was my education growing
up throughout my young childhood and young adulthood.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
David, how about you?

Speaker 5 (09:34):
Yeah, Uh, it's a great story.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
I So I think for for for most of us.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
I was a kid that grew up in the eighties
and the nineties, so like there was nothing really there
was nothing in school, right, at least in my very
young age, there was nothing in school. But my mom,
My mom is in RN and she works in maternity, right,
so she helps, you know, deliver the babies.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
And so my mom, I'm.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
Still gonna ask her why, But like she taught me
and my sister about sex very young, like like three
four years old.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
We knew about Dick's vaginas, like we knew about it.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
So there was a book, and I believe the book
is called Where Do I Come From?

Speaker 5 (10:18):
And it featured have you do you know this book?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'm familiar? Yes, okay.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
It featured two characters, two actually fat characters. It was
a fat man and a fat woman, right, and they
would have sex, uh, and you would see them have sex.
And the book would explain, four kids, this is how
babies are made. It didn't say peepe or we we.
It would say penis, it would say vagina. My mom
was very like conscious about using those words and not

(10:47):
to like baby or infantilize those words. So that was
my first uh interest into sex education and then health class.
I think around eighth ninth grade, I was in health class.
And in health class, we did reproduction, we did st.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
I s we we.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
I had a pretty like looking back, I think I
had a pretty good health class for the time.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
We wasn't It was no queer ship, it was no
gay ship. That wasn't happening.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
But I don't know what y'all do over there, but
that is not me.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
I mean, I wish we were doing work, getting into
the things. And to be quite honest, I was a
terrible student. I was not good at school, but by choice.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
I just didn't want to do it.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
But health class, like I was getting a's, a's as Like, Yeah,
I loved health class so much. I would like study.
I learned how to study better through health class. I
would like take my vocabulary and turn it into a song.
So I had all these like sex songs in my
head because that's what we were like learning about that
I had like written so I can memorize the vocabulary.

(11:59):
Long story short, That was my That was my introduction
and I think you'll probably ask me more questions about
it later. But yeah, yeah, that's where it started, and yeah,
that's where it started.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
M that's really good.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
I think to kind of junxspose y'all's, I think I
probably have the worst and when I say, my experience
with it was absolutely terrible. And I think a big
part of it is obviously they didn't entertain queer conversations.
But I think a big part of it was I
grew up in even though I am a Calli native
or a Socun native, I grew up in a very

(12:34):
very conservative part of Soco, and so I think that
that was a big part of it.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
They were trying to do as much as they could
to kind of make us believe that, you know, the
one woman, the one man, and you know, they come together.
It was very much a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
And so.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
I do remember, kind of to your point, being in
health class eighth grade. I think that's when it really
kind of like, well, no, seventh grade is when it
started to kick up. But they split the boys and
the girls.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I don't know if y'all classes do that, but I
know for us, girls learned one thing, the boys learned
one thing, and that was kind of it. Like the
general notion was if you have sex, You're going to hell.
That was basically kind of the way it was tall
and then they showed us the video basically to traumatize
us around and again. And when I say ill, I
don't want to make it sound like I'm I'm that,

(13:22):
I'm yucking. I'm thinking from a seventh grade perspective, you
don't know what's happening.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
You don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
All of these fluids are gushing, you have this whole
baby come out blood, and you're going what is going on?
So it was it was a very traumatizing experience for
me and other men in that class because they're trying
to talk about childbirth, but they've given us no lexicon,
they've given us no understanding of what the body can
do to produce another child. So it was just it

(13:50):
was I will say there was just a lot of
trauma around sex for me because a lot of it
was kind of just dropped on me as a kid,
and then it was kind of like, oh, but I
also didn't have anyone explaining to me why I was
interested in men and why it was just again, it
was very nineteen ninety seven, and so a lot of
my true health, like learning about my own sexual health

(14:13):
came from like me sneaking and watching shows like Undressed
on MTV or.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
My so called life.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, like that's where I learned about, you know, what
is HIV and what it does or what it can
do to the body, and this very scariness too. Of Like,
also a big part of my health education came from
the church. Like I grew up at child's witness and
the one thing that you didn't want to do was
to have sex outside of marriage. And so it was

(14:38):
it was just everything was very Sex was a very
scary thing for me growing up. It wasn't It wasn't
something you know. Now as an adult, I've had to
relearn it as kind of an extracurricular and I hope
I don't offend people by saying that, but sex is
fun now for me as an adult, Whereas as a kid,
it was scary.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
It was something that.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh my god, if I have sex with the wrong person,
I could die, or if I have sex with the
wrong person, I could go to hell. And I want
to think they wanted me to believe it. They want
they truly wanted me to believe that. So yeah, but
I appreciate I will say this upfront, and I know
we're gonna go into it. I appreciate folks like yourself
that are out here giving folks the right information now,

(15:23):
like in a way of like the Internet, because obviously,
right you know, folks will find you and there are
people who maybe follow you, but I'm sure that there
are people who follow you that grew up like me
in this notion of everything around sex was scary. Everything is,
you know, everything's gonna send me straight to meet my maker.
And I appreciate that there are folks like yourself out
here who are really doing the work to you know,

(15:45):
get us caught up to the right stuff. So now
that we've got y'all ready to rate us tv m A,
we got to take our first break.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
To pay the bills.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
But once we've finished doing that, we gonna come back
what our good says here and we're gonna talk talk
about popping out pussy.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
We'll be back in the second.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
You already know what this show is, all right, y'all,
We come back and we want to spend some time
with our guests talking about the grown folks stuff. So
if you've got children in the room and there is
to the you know, listening to you listening to this,
you may want to tell them to go upstairs and

(16:31):
watch the.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Conversation.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
What we love, what she stands for, but this conversation
is not for the cheering. So with that being said,
you know, I see so strapping my god, you're about
to talk about some grown folks stuff. So with that thing,
said David, I before we kind of get into the
conversation about doing the deed, doing the deed safe and

(17:00):
taking care of yourself around you, indeed, I would love
to know what you know. I know you kind of
alluded to it in our last segment you said sexual
health growing up for you with something you were very
interested in, But I would love to know more about
how that became a part of like your branding, because
even with this show, there's still moments where I'm like, ooh,
I kind of want to touch on it, but I don't.
And so you know, we kind of danced around conversations

(17:22):
around sex and things here, but it's not a sex
forward show, right, and so what we want I would
love to know is that how did you get to
that place where you were okay with that? But also
I would love to know if there was anything that
you were worried about you notice your brand start to
take off anything that maybe you felt like people might
have gotten misconstrued around the work you were doing.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
Yes, great questions and cut me off if I run
too long, please, okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
So I'm would take y'all right back.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
So I'm in We're in high school, right, I graduate
and I joined the ballroom scene.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
Right, I joined the ballroom scene.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
And I'm walking balls and I'm with one of my
friends and my friend is like, I need money, right,
I need to walk these balls.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
I need cash.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
So my friend's like, oh, come work for this nonprofit
and hand out condoms at the ball. They'll let you
into the ball for free and they'll pay you. So
I was like, oh, I'll do that, Like I'm nineteen, Like, sure,
I'll pass out condoms.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
At the ball. So I would do that.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
That led to like those folks liking me. They just
like liked who I was. And they were like, do
you want to like teach more about sex? And I
was like I don't know, sure, great, Like let's do it.
So they they trained me like three days a week
for like three or four months. They would just train
me in this basement on all the sex ed stuff
I had to learn, all this vocabulary and all these methods,

(18:45):
but more so watch them lead lead classes and do
facilitations with other queer folks of colors, queer men of color,
specifically teaching them sex ed in a way that was
so radical and different and raw and real, unfiltered, and
I truly learned from them. Like what you're seeing me

(19:05):
do is what I was watching fifteen twenty years ago
other people teach me to do.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
So, Like, clearly, I didn't invent this.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
There are like black there are older black folks that
have come before me that taught me this and inspired
me to continue it.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
So that's how I got into it.

Speaker 6 (19:25):
But then maybe a year or two after doing that,
I thought that everybody had that, you know, because like
you're young, I think more experience is everyone's experience, right,
And I was soon realizing that these grown adults have
never got a lick of sex education.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Right.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
I'm jumping around a little bit, but even to this day,
most of my audience you would think are like gen
z or young folks, they are not.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
They're older.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Yeah, my audience is my age and I'm forty two, Okay,
my audience is thirty five and up.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
That is the that's the bulk of it, right, Yeah,
it's folks.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
That missed this education when they were younger and are
still curious and craving the answers.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
So so yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
So that's how it all kind of came to be,
as that's how Sex Educator came to be. And then
as far as content goes, Uh so I am a writer, right, John?
I think I actually met you at the Black Queer Conferences.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
As a writer. Yeah, yes, as a writer.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
But it's so funny because that the day of the conference,
one of my my third video ever went super viral
and I.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Had to make a decision.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I remember when video that was. I actually do I
remember that?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah? Yeah, I had to make it.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
It was about sides.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
I had to make a decision on if I was
going to continue being a writer or if I was
going to be this content creator. So I'll take a
little bit further math. I was writing for a show
on Disney, right. I I just got my first writing job.
Took me ten years to get this staff writing job.
I get the job, I'm in there. I'm so excited
to be there, and then the show ends, right, because

(21:10):
shows end, right, we're waiting for season two to get
picked up.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
It's not picked up yet. The writer's strike happens, so
I'm like, well, how am I supposed to do.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
Like to make money but also just to be creative
in this time of like not working and the strike.
So I had been doing sex ed on the side
as I was trying to be a writer for fifteen
twenty years. That's all I was trying to but sex
ed was always the second thing, that was the thing
that's going to get me there, right, So one day

(21:39):
I was like, maybe I should try to make content.
So I was trying all these different things, and then
one day I made a video about hookup culture or
like five red flags to look out for on a
hook up date, and that video like took off in
a little bit of a way, and I was.

Speaker 7 (21:54):
Like, oh, oh, oh shit.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
This whole time, I think I should have been doing
sex at the whole time, I think, oh, I don't
think I was supposed to be chasing this big writer dream.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
I think I was supposed to be writing the sex education.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
I think I was supposed to use all these skills
that I, you know, aspire to to do sex ed.
So and I had to make a choice because I
couldn't do both. I cannot work in children's media and
be talking about fucking.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Old we talk about pussy. Yeah, you can't do that.
You can't do it.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
It was you know, it was not going.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
To whoa Disney girl baby?

Speaker 6 (22:36):
Yeah, you couldn't even You couldn't even write a kid
falling and getting a bruise.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Okay, that's silent.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
We don't want that my Instagram page.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Like, I had to make a choice and.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
I can't.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
Yeah ed because I felt like, yes, we need more
black career voices in media, absolutely, always, all the time.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Am I the.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Best writer for that? I'm pretty good? But am I
the best?

Speaker 6 (23:08):
I don't know if I'm the best. And and I'm
gonna do my own horn. Am I one of the
best black career sex educators out right now?

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yes I am.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
I think I am, right, I think I am, And
that doesn't mean I'll forever be the best.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
I would hope that others come after me.

Speaker 6 (23:26):
But I think I'm really good at this and I
think the world needs me here more than it needs
me there. So that's why that's why I started making
content and pouring into this I fired, not fired, but
I let my manager go, my writing manager. Like everything,
I just I went balls deep into this and.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
I really I love how much like your life experiences
have led you to this moment. I think that's really
incredible to see that, like your education as a kid,
and then like right like you were, you have like
all the right, like everything lined up correctly, right, like
you're a parent that educated you, which is amazing. Then
fill in the ballroom and then you had an organization

(24:06):
that that that's you educated you right, and then you
realize you have the education that could use yourself for
running for that that's that's like, so that's like.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Really really kism. It does not happen.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I love how you educate right and your and I
love how others and share content because a lot of it,
from what I see is really it really is like
riotting for me, a strong relationship with yourself, how to
communicate your own needs and desires, which is really the
bedwalk of any good relationship with others.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
What you did there ahead, I'm sorry, I'm trying my
best slip.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, all things that can't do normally on the show,
like like and so I'm you know, especially know that
this has been so much of your life, and so
I'm really curious answer, especially now, how how your relationship
with yourself and your body evolved since you started doing
this work. And city of folks who are struggling with

(25:02):
communicating their desires in and out of the bedroom.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
Okay, so for me, the weirdest thing has happened, but
probably because I asked for it so prior to me
diving into sex d excuse me diving into content about sex,
I was having a lot of sex, right, I was
having a lot of sex.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
And and it was great, but I like, I asked
the universe for something else.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
I was like, this is great, and I don't feel
like I'm over indulging. I'm just enough of a slut
as I want to be. But like, but is there
anything else I should be doing with my life?

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Lord?

Speaker 5 (25:41):
Is there anything else?

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Like she wanted to, yes's for me this year?

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Wats for me? That's gonna be the final? Show me?
What's for me?

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Like, there's other things I could do?

Speaker 6 (26:00):
And and then that turned into me talking about the
sex I was having on the internet, right, And the
more I talked about it and the more I study it,
and the more I get into the content about it,
the less sex I be happy, and it would be
cool to me. I think that's so cool because I
asked for that. I asked to do something else, and

(26:23):
the universe said, yes, you're gonna have less sex, but
you're still going to be talking about one of your
favorite things, which is sex, and you're still going to
be helping other people have get the feeling that you
have when you have sex, right, this elation, happy, this acceptance,
this connection. You're gonna help other people. Now you've done it.

(26:44):
You got it, you got enough bodies.

Speaker 7 (26:45):
You good.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
The universe said, you got it, you got.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
It, you got it, you got enough.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Other people.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
It's a common the BodyCount too high. You have relaxed
a little bit. Just listen, say you're all, say your.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
I think that that's you know again, I want to
be very careful, And that's part partly why we don't
really like dig into these conversations too much, because I
don't feel like I am a true sex educator. And
I also don't want folks feeling like we're body shaming
or that we're sex shaming anybody. I have as much
sex as you want, do what you want to do
with who you want to do with. But I definitely

(27:24):
appreciate you saying that you wanted to lean into helping
people feel better about their experience. And I think, ye all,
I think that's kind of what the universe was using
you for, was saying, you've had all of these experiences,
you know what's good, you know what's not.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Now we got to go out and we got to
teach the babies. We got to get out to you.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
And I appreciate you saying that because I think some
people feel like they know. I think people just feel
like there's there's so much shame around the idea of
saying I like to have sex, I like sexual situations.
I like to be in sexual situations with people. And
I appreciate you saying that and saying, now, as much
as I enjoy it, I can go out and teach

(28:02):
people about how to enjoy it too.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
I think that's a really important.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
Yeah, it's important for for folks to you know, feel pleasure,
to not feel shame and their desire.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
And you know, just how you came up.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
That's where a lot of that stuff comes from, from religion,
the Bible, from politics, Like there's so much holding us down,
holding our freedom down. Because if they know that we
can be free in our sex imagine what we can
be free in other parts.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Of our lives.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Like, Yeah, people that I know that are free sexually
are very free and open and that's liberal and in
other ivories of their living right. And I think that's
that scares people. They don't want you to be free.
They want you to be stuck in that box. They
want you to be under the Bible, you know, And

(28:48):
that's it.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
No, that's real, that's actually, that's a whole ass word
I was gonna say. I think, you know, and when
you talk about freedom and you talk about sexual expression
and liking it, I think what you're really talking about
is intentionality. I think being so intentional with your body,
being intentional about the interactions you're having with.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Other people's bodies.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
And I think that that's something I don't necessarily I
want to.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I want to. I will say that about the show.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I'm hoping we can explore that more this year, about
intentionality and all facets. But what I was going to
ask you is thinking about, you know, intentionality around the
focus for people of color, mainly black and queer and
trans folks in your content. How you've been so intentional
about making sure that you highlight them and their experiences.

(29:32):
That's something that actually drew me to want to follow
you because you don't see it right When we start
talking about sexual health, oftentimes it stops with with white
people literally, And I think it's beautiful that you've been
able to really represent us in the work that you do.
And so what I'd love to ask is, you know,
why do you think it's important for people to see
themselves represented in these type of topics, specifically knowing that

(29:57):
a lot of these topics are I'm going to flip
the question, a lot of these topics are keeping us
from finding You're doing that in a way, But why
was that so and why was that so important for you?

Speaker 7 (30:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (30:11):
A great question because if we are not visible, right,
if we don't see ourselves in these situations.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Yeah, then we don't feel worth.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Right.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
If I don't see myself on TV, I'm like, well,
someone who looks like me must.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Not be worthy to be on TV, must not be
worthy to.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
Be in content, worthy to be on the internet, right,
And worth is so important when it comes to health.
If I feel like I'm not worth anything. Will I
take care of my health? Probably not, because what's it worth?

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Who cares?

Speaker 6 (30:45):
I'm not worth much? So I'm not going to take
care of my health. And then it goes back to
sexual health. Right if then if I do if I'm
you know, young young black boy, see someone that looks
like me, right talking about desire and and and getting
tested and health and all these things, and I'm like, okay, great,
that person has worth because they're on TV.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
I must have worth.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Great.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
And now that I have worth, I would like to
keep that worth and stay alive.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
How do I do that?

Speaker 6 (31:15):
I take care of my health, and that includes my
sexual health, my mental health, my physical health, my emotional health.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Right, visibility equals worth. Worth equals health.

Speaker 6 (31:24):
And that's why it's important that you're right, like you
don't see black and brown folks like you don't see
trans folks. Them folks right like doing this, so we
have to Someone's got to do it.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Someone's got to do it.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
And I'm and now I'm seeing which I'm like, whoa,
this is so cool, Like there are other people popping
up doing this now that look like us. And I'm
not saying I started that, but I am seeing it
now and I'm.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
So so grateful, like so grateful to.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Because we need say I think you started on especially
especially social media life.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Better take that especially. Yeah I got girl that Okay,
yeah I did that.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Follow But first, first, as one, I really appreciate your
point about visibility to yourself as worthy and seeing yourself
at all because I always think about this this girl.
I was on this career trip and I was like
twenty three twenty four as girl was like, media is
so now important. Media does nothing for culture, and I
was like, you dumb bitch. Media effects everything.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Girl.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
You are a liar, you say icon you can girl,
But so so my follow up is most.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Of the content you have is with specific body times.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's not a critique of you, like I think, like honestly,
rather than the field itself. So I'm curious of how
we might move the needle to have sort of sexual
health conversations and sexual aspirational conversations with more diverse bodies,
like where are the that but queens?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Right?

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Like have you done interviews before events like fat slat
or chumberin.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
In l A And like what might be what might
be some barriers for.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
It?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Might be some bearrias for for for bigger folks than
fat folks to be involved in this conversation more.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Yeah, so let me start with this. I'll start with this.
I have not interviewed enough fat folks.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
I have not. I have.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
I have done a disservice, I will say that. And
I have been called out by friends, by fat friends,
and they're like, where are we at? I know you
see them, like, what's going on? So I apologize to
the world, Right, I'm at one point you get caught
up and you're chasing views, and you're chasing likes, and
you're chasing comments, and you're chasing one thing that you

(33:34):
know everybody wants, right, And I was doing that. It's
not an excuse, but that's what was happening. So, so
how do we get more people out there? People like
me need to grab them real, really, that's really it, right,
people like me need to grab them now. I have
done an interview with fat folks in the past. Barriers

(33:56):
that I do sometimes run into are the fat folks
I see at these parties will have clothes on, right,
and I understand why right the world is judging them.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
They feel insecure about their bodies. I understand that, so.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
That will happen, and I will ask them to take
clothes off they don't want to do it. I'm like, okay,
but I think your suggestion. You're asking me, have I
been the fat slut? Have I been the chubb rub?
I have not been to those places. I am planning
to go to those places. And me putting myself right,
taking myself to the people, I think is what I
need to do and what we all need to be
doing in order to showcase the diversity of our community.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Right.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yeah, masculine, muscular guys are going to get me the
views that I'm looking for, but it's not always about that.
And and I welcome the challenge to change what I've
done with the best, but.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
I would also challenge to not to cut you off, David.
But I was gonna say I would often challenge. You know,
a lot of bigger bodies are afraid to put themselves
out there to have these conversations, and so it's kind
of a two way street, right you know, I appreciate
you taking the accountability and saying I need to do
more interviewing, but I also I'll even say, I'll include
myself in this, right there's a part of me because

(35:07):
of the lived experience I have.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Then also, like I said that.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
That shame that still lives around me for my size,
that often makes it very hard for me to engage
around conversations around sexuality because I'm always worried that I'm
not attractive or I'm not desirable. And I think that's
you know, there's this unpacking around desirability that has to happen.
And I'm so glad that you're in this conversation with us,

(35:31):
because as much as you don't identify as a fat person,
I feel like you have the caliber to understand the
desirability politics.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Just I mean, you just said it.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
You know, you recognize that, you know views, certain looks
get you certain views, and so I think it's a
it's a two it's a two way conversation, and I
think both of them.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I think it's nuanced.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I think the whole conversation around fat bodies and sexual
health and sexuality is it's very nuanced, and I definitely
you think we're creating space for that here.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, I really appreciate your answer, David.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Like when I was writing it, I was I I
want I didn't want to make a gotcha question, right,
like like I'm like, I'm not asking it to like
get you of course at all, you know, like but
it's a really real question.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I appre I didn't.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
I did not expect your answer at all, like the
like accountability partner. I really really appreciate that, and I
really appreciate you that you being honest, Like it's true
like when I like when I see so much content
like featuring like commentually hot people, right, I'm like, of
course the content is gonna get likes and stuff, right,
Like I know that, and so I appreciate you I
mean that, and I appreciate you also saying but I'm
here for the challenge to you and John I love

(36:40):
I also love your calling too because to your point,
like it's it like it's it's never gonna.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Be one reason on one side.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
It really is like like a two way street, right,
like like, yes, there is a there is a very
real uh there's a really there's a very real deficit
of fat folks being asked to do things and right,
so there's a there's a really real deficit of us
choosing to take up space, like you know, like like
whenever I see your videos divid right, I'm always like
who Like at some point, at some point I will

(37:09):
be in a room with David and David's gonna ask
me a question. I'm like, what am I gonna do?
Like when am I gonna answer it? Am I gonna
feel empowered? And I'm gonna, well, I have my sh showes. Yeah,
want to.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Just spink? Like what am I gonna do? I have
no idea?

Speaker 3 (37:28):
And so hearing this, right, I'm like, you know, I'm like,
I'm like John, I hate, I hate and love what
you said cause I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I have to do it.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
I hate you, I hate you bitch because I'm because
I'm like girl like, damn, Like, you're right, I have
to also take up space.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Right, But if I see.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
If I'm a fat so I see David, I'd be
like David, I want to be in the video.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Let them put them in the video. Bamn, let's do it, right.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I have to feel comfortable doing that tune. So I
really really appreciate, like I appreciate this part of the response.
I think that is like, it's it's it's a great
it's accountability of like the parts that we each play
and the acknowledgment of how we can do better ourselves
and in every way. I really really love that. I
know you showed your own show now, but connect the
dark one congratulations recently to in Los Angeles. I want

(38:14):
to know how it went.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
I also want to.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Know how your work is impacted by our current political climate,
right with the simpulling out.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Of d work, mores of media rising.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I am I am trying to be in my sexual
writing bag, did I Okay?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
So thank you for receiving it all. How can you
how how can your work around positive sexual health? Can
you to thrive in a time like this?

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (38:40):
So? Uh well, first of all, so sorry, I just
have to talk about the last question one more time. Uh.
I figured this would be a question, and honestly I've
been thinking about it for months, like speaking about it
for so long, and that I was ready to say
this today and you work.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I would like you have to answer that mine has
said like she her pr yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
You got doty pep and prap tony Mama was ready.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
So so and and thank you for asking like we
we need you need to ask these people. You need
to ask people like me these questions, right, or let's
nothing's gonna change, so thank you for asking.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Okay, So Butchqueen after Dark.

Speaker 7 (39:26):
Live was great.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
It was so great.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
I was asked by.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
A friend, Jackie shutters On Jackie to to host one
of their game nights. They have game nights first Tuesday
of every month at Precinct, and I was like, well,
my podcast is coming around coming out around that time.
Let me just make it like a live show and
a taping and I'll play some.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Games and we'll do some things. So it worked out.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
It was really great. All my you know, friends and
family came. It was really nice. We Uh, I did
an interview with one of my favorite go gos, his
name is Judas King.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
We did.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
We had a BDSM demo, so we watched someone get mummified, Yeah,
flogged and and uh.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
With electro play.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Was really cool.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
Yes, shocked them up.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
Ye watched and then we played the Butch Queen games,
which were like five sex five sexy flirty games.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
Uh, like I had.

Speaker 6 (40:27):
One of the games was like people had to break
up into teams they had playto and they had to
build a dildo right and like best dildo would win,
and then it was like put bananas on condoms? Who
does the most bananas on condoms? Like just random games
like that, which was really.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
Fun, really really cool, really cool. Uh and I forgot
your second question.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Well, I'm so glad.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
I'm so glad I went well something a lot of time.
I'm like, I tell us what game the next one
I will because I definitely want.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
To try and I would I would also like to coming.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Okay, yes, yeah, the question the question I had, do
you want to ask me John?

Speaker 1 (41:09):
No, go ahead, I was just gonna say, just for
for a time, but also to kind of kind of
a follow up in addition to the question, You're gonna
ask Joe to just kind of keep in mind to like,
I know, HIV has HIV in HIV prevention has been
under attack to so kind of if we can keep
that in the scope of the question too.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
But go ahead, Yeah, okay, okay, So, like so right,
so how is your compacted by the current climate?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Right, it should be sexual.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Health relationship advice knowing that there's a pulling out of
d I work and more because of India rising, and
how can your work around positive sexual health continue to
thrive at this time?

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (41:46):
So work is absolutely affected like it's it's so funny
because when I made the switch to like be a
sex educator, I thought that was the safe choice, like
as opposed to be a staff writer.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
By money.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
They came back to buy yes, jagged wheah.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Trump cut all that funding for HIV prevention.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
It really shook things up as far as like jobs
and me feeling insecure in in the in the uh
in the career.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
That I have chosen.

Speaker 6 (42:21):
Right, this is my livelihood, this is what I love
to do, and now it's in jeopardy. So so it
affected my work in that way. And then as far
as my content creation and hosting and promotion. You know,
I go around, I travel and I meet people and
do all these things usually paid for by organizations that
are funded from hivney.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Right when that.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
Started happening, like Prides were like, I'm so sorry, I
can't afford.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
You know this, I can't afford. I can't afford And I.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
Get it because we're saving we're pinching pennies here.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
To to to take care of the essentials, right, the
folks that are testing, right, prevention, care for folks that
are living with HIV. Right, money needs to go there
before it goes to me making silly videos.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
So it's like.

Speaker 6 (43:10):
I get it, like I get it, but also it
sucks for me because I just start this journey and
now it's cut and I have to find new ways
to do it, which I'm still figuring out.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
I'm still figuring it out.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (43:23):
One, let me say thank you so much for your
flexibility for black practice. Well too, then, yes, I appreciate
you so very much for being so and with we
were able to offer.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
So we had two dollars in a buffalo nickel.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Okay, okay, fam Now that we got y'all ready to
drop a lot for Jesus, we won't hit you out
with another break.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
We come back. We're gonna give you a pop and playlist.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Bitch amen, Okay, listeners, we are back and we cannot
get spicy on y'all not give us to take home
with you. So with our guests, were put together little
sensual playlist for you. I want to go around and
share some songs we would share we would have on

(44:09):
any spicy Time playlist and any songs that these plays
should have.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
So share Time playlist.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Share some songs and one why they should be on
here for me. I'll start and I think, I think
like it will give songs as we think of them.
My purse is living Room Flow by Jo I don't
feel that song before, but like the beat, the beat
is right, like like it's like a sensual beat like
the song.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
This song is about fucking. This song is okay beat.
It's like boom boom.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
And I'm like, yeah, that girl, that girl can ride
the throbbing yeah feeling.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yeah it is, so I believe and I know I
know she would.

Speaker 6 (44:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Next I was thing or so, so I was between
Rocket and Dance for You by by Beyonce and John
You said, and then the aprecire right, Rockets too long,
is too long because I'd be like, girl, I can't
keep funding.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
This music, but dance for You now.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
When this song came out, the video came out, I
did my best, said get the choreo down.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
So that's that's what lends in my spirit.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
So Dance for You for sure will always be on
my playlist for show Okay.

Speaker 8 (45:27):
Shooting said how many we love, we get it, we
get it.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
I love that song, but also also Beyonce girl all
that holleran watching pop bad.

Speaker 7 (45:56):
Like we get it.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeez. Okay, next is too close by the by the group? Next? Wait,
that song is nasty. That song is nasty. That's so nasty.

Speaker 6 (46:12):
It's literally talking about an erection in a club like
I know you feel my I know you feel my.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
Hard dick on your ass.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
We were singing that children we had I was in
seventh grade.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
We had a dance to that song, me and my
cousin and two other friends of ours.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
We were doing it in the talent show, dancing to
that song.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Nasty, just nasty.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
My god, honestly, that that song. And I want to
tek you up back coming by? Yes again? I kid,
you seen the song? I have five years old? WI
five years old? Why my dad playing a song for me?

Speaker 5 (46:50):
You know what's great about that song? He knew what
he was asking for?

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Okay, it was please is what I want?

Speaker 3 (46:57):
I coming to doctor close the first nobody knows.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, I can standin.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
T me what to do, baby, tell me what to do?
She told her to come in. I still so, I
feel like I got catfish. Though when I found out
he was white, I was a little annoyed. I will
say that. I will say that when I found out
he was of the whites, no shade to the whites.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
No, I was, yeah, I was today. Did you not
know he was white?

Speaker 9 (47:29):
ID when when you when you listened back, when you
listen back to it, you'll hear it.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
Oddly enough, when you hear it, you're.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Like, we had him and his friends had a silk blowout.
They were they were of the white honey, this is.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
I have to go. I have to I have to go,
I have to go him. I had no idea. It
was only one black man in the group, I think, right.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
And it was like it was like the new Kids
on the black Er.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
It was like, oh yeah, urban white boys, Yeah, I
think the group.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah, go ahead, Yeah you skipped I jam now. I
don't want to take this from you, but go ahead,
go ahead. Body Party by Sierra.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
That song.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
If there's a song in her catalog that I never skipped,
that is it. That is people playing Sierra's Facebook. She
did everything that okay, down to the lyrics of the
party's your party babe saying Sierra, yeah, her song. Every
time that song comes on that I call that a

(48:47):
shower song. That's one of those songs that you shower
and you sound so good every.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Time shower song.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yes, yes, yes, absolutely, but Sierra was in her bag
with body parties.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Definitely need to be okay, keep it going, keep it going.
No your listen, it's show. No no, no, I give
enough song you can give Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
So I was gonna say, I do want to add
so I don't know this song by?

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Is it Jeremiah? Is his name Jeremiah?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I don't know that song, but bed is definitely one
of those songs.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Wait by.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
I thought that was okay, that's Holiday, yes by Holiday? Sorry, yes, but.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
That is should be on the list as well. Yes, yes,
yes Holiday.

Speaker 6 (49:37):
His two singles are so like his two hit wonder
to hit.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
That breathe that other breeze song didn't Yeah. Yeah, he
can suffocate is what I think it's called. Yeah, yeah, yes, yes,
he ate that, he ate that?

Speaker 6 (49:54):
Yeah, come on dream Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I'm gonna take us back a little bit.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
So I'm gonna say I think one of the sexiest
songs to ever be done, sexiest rap songs is Splash
Waterfall by Ludacris. I think I don't know if you've
ever heard that one or if you're familiar and I
want to give it to you. That's for the people
who really know. There is a remix version that's even
better than the original version. So I say get into

(50:25):
both of those. Those definitely are the The remix has
to whatever you.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
So good. The next one for me always gonna be
read like special.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yes video, Yes, Jilli was in her back. You want
to talk about a bridge? Jilli built that. Yes, Thomas,
she ate that old bridge. Yes, I know just what
I want. I know just what. But you also have

(51:06):
to give it to Babyface. His Babyface wrote that song. Again,
most of these songs are Babyface songs that I because
baby Face just knew how baby I'm pretty sure that
I was born to a baby I was made.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I'm almost certain that I was.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I think because Babyface wrote the ship out of song.
So we're gonna talk about baby Face. We're all going
to talk about Tony the Legend Braxton. You're making me
how that is one of the best sex songs. I
actually didn't know it was a sex song until I
got older. I never really recognized what she was talking about.

(51:43):
But she was talking about taking her clothes off and climax.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yes, but mama was talking to That's fine.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah, then we're gonna get into our two thousand and seven,
two thousand and eight bag. I want to throw out
Strip Teas by Dannity King. I don't know that Come On,
Come On, Come Back to definitely is a song. But
I also want to add for those who are real
DK fans, there's a song called Secret Lover on their

(52:11):
DK three album that is absolutely.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
It's basically what's the song?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
It's a it's a it's a different song but has
the same premise. It is what's the song by Escape
Little Secret. It has the same concept of Little Secret.
Basically they're singing about this idea of basically fucking somebody
else's man, and it's just it's a it's a really
good song in my opinion, it's just it's a really sexy,

(52:37):
really good song. Next one, I'm gonna throw it in
their Friend Lover by Electric Red. I don't know if
if you're familiar Electric Red.

Speaker 7 (52:45):
I know Electric Red yes when.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Yes, Friend Lover is definitely my jam, also about fucking
somebody else's man.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
And the wild Yeah, literally.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Literally two thousand and five to like ten thousand eleven,
such a niche throwback all of this many people know.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah, I was all over them.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
I love definitely was all over Electric Brand, and then lastly,
Beyonce's blow is Okay with Central Sex song, Yeah, because
she's talking about doing things to jay Z I would
probably never do. But yes, all right, what's your what's
your list?

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Baby?

Speaker 5 (53:25):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (53:26):
So I wish I had a better list.

Speaker 6 (53:28):
I mean, it's not bad, but I picked songs that
are out right now, and then I have a fumble
from from the past, right so I actually it's it's
so funny that I would pick songs right now.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
I barely listen to music of right now.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
All the music I listen to right now is like
is from the nineties, and it's music that like I missed,
so like, I'm really into Drew Hill right now. S
WV is one of my favorite groups of all times.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
I know you're gonna Are you gonna say the song
that I think you're gonna say?

Speaker 6 (53:59):
Probably not, but only because I just discovered it. I
just discovered this unreleased SWV track.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
Oh it's called Mystery.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Oh I never heard it. I never I'm the.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
Biggest s WV fan and I have never heard this
song until this until last year, okay, until last month.
So listen to Mystery by WV. That's my first song.
It's actually not that sexy, but you can have sex
to it.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yeah, I thought you were gonna say rain because that
song is about skeet.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
I don't care what nobody says rain about. Yes, let
your love fall like rain drops rain down on me.
That song is about me. Yes, every little drip drop,
just little drip drop. Yes, every little drip drop.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Was in her bag.

Speaker 6 (54:47):
So I'll start there Mystery by SBV. And then the
other older one that Drew hillsong I'm listening to right
now is called You Are Everything, Yes, which was a
Cisco Cisco released it or maybe they released it together
as a fast song. It was like a fast upbeat song, right, Yeah,
there's a slow version. Yeah, I'm listening to the slow version,

(55:08):
like I love the song. Why have I never heard
the song? And then the fast version comes on. I'm like, oh,
I know the song.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
I had no idea.

Speaker 6 (55:14):
So You Are Everything by Drew Hill Okay, then the
newer one. So there's a song called Lullaby by this
guy named Jaydon. Jaydon he he played Young Simba in
Beyonce's Lion King.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I've heard that.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
This little young buck got a voice on him. I'm like, what, like, oh,
it's so good. He's so good to me.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
And what's his name?

Speaker 5 (55:40):
Jay j A Y d O N.

Speaker 6 (55:43):
And the song is called Lullaby and the remix is
with Usher.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
Usher's on the remix, SOX it's good.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
My next is talk You Through It by Kate. I
think you pronounce A A one featuring Flow. So do
you know K one? There they are.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
I believe they're kay lannis w N.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yes, yes, k w N, Yes, yes, it's K one.
That makes sense.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
Yes, maybe I don't know. You know these new artists,
they'll be putting three letters together.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
I still know six. His name is six. I don't
know what nobody says? Please I thought I was like.

Speaker 6 (56:29):
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, both of for both of them.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
Listen to Talk You Through It k w N featuring Flow.

Speaker 6 (56:39):
I'm sure you already know Flow like k w with
that so great, and then listen to their whole album great.
Next is slow Grind by Moody Long. Yes, great, and
then oh so then my last one is uh is Beyonce.
It's an older song and you you mentioned dance for

(57:01):
you right, dance for You and uh, and then we
mentioned Rocket, right, dance Rocket comes.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
After Dance for You?

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Right, rocket is Rocket was yes?

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Yes, Rocket, Ye, Dance for You No, no, No, Dance for
You was on.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
Four Yes, okay.

Speaker 6 (57:23):
So I think that these are graduations of songs. I
think Dance for You graduates into Rocket, and I think
there was a song she did that graduated into Dance
for You.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
I'm wondering if you can guess it.

Speaker 6 (57:36):
It's on her first album.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Oh, yes, it's yes, is it right?

Speaker 2 (57:46):
No?

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Not?

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Yes? Speechlessless? Speechless? Yes, speech graduates into Dance for You
and dance. Yes. That actually makes a lot of Yeah,
that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Yes you say yes, yes, yes, okay, yes that would.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
So that would be my sex playlist if I had
a sex playlist. I don't have a sex playlist because
if I like music more than sex, if music is
playing that I can sing, I will sing during the
sexual encounter.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
I feel, you know, I'm gonna get how people do
how you have music playing?

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Like? Will I be watching the pone?

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Happy people people be having a poone and it'd be
music in them?

Speaker 2 (58:30):
No, would be everywhere? But what are you doing?

Speaker 6 (58:35):
Cannot focus cannot compute bak so I can sing this Beyonce.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Why are you listening to a Dina Howards Like, Yeah,
I'm gonna be a freaking I'm not trying to have
what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, now, young girl, I'm gonna need you.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
I'm gonna need you to turn on what is that
the people of a certain age that the like turn
innocence here?

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yeah? Why yeah? Why? Yes?

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Some need you to turn on some ways, say way,
oh yacht rock? Put on some yes, somebody need you
to turn on something something.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
For State of Brothers, girl from the market some what's
not like? What's that like? Holding music? Like music?

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Yes, elevated music, Yes, turn on, but I can't can't
be nothing.

Speaker 6 (59:41):
I will learn the melody I'm in here. I'll tell
my partner, I'll tell my husband like we need to
listen to. He'll put on like afrobeats that like have
no no repeats, no lyrics, just the beats in the background, right,
which is which also feels great during sex, right you
feel you know, you feel your ancestors right, Or I'll

(01:00:03):
play like I'll play this other DJ called d J
Hugh Gil I think he's out of France or Spain
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I'll play him.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
But yeah, no words, no words for me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
I was trying to sing the song, don't. I'm trying
to playing some meditation music.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Play off somebody?

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Okay, I do you want to give an are mentioned
to my girl? Tweet for the best? Well anthem there
is oops.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Yes that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Is gonna be for yourself. It can be okay, it
can be for some somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yes, ye.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
So high, yes, yes, that is about I live myself.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yes, yes, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Sam.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Well, well, well, now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
That we got you all ready to spend spend a
long time with yourself, lot, let candle, get your little
body oil okay, which with what you what you were,
your or your friend, your your man's this and something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
We gotta take one more break. Can we come back?
We will be here with your favorite get somebody no
man hands?

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
All right, Charles. So I'm gonna jump in mine real quick.
I always say it's gonna be quick and ends up
being real long. But Jesus, are really going to be
quick because I'm looking at the clock and I know
we we are we are on borrow time. So my yes, ma'am,
this week it's it's kind of petty, and I would
anticipate that we're probably gonna get some people who are
going to be mad at me for this, but you
know what, fuck it, I don't care. I want to

(01:01:57):
say my yes, ma'am. This week is the fact that
Kyle Rittenhouse not being able to get booked for a
speaking engagement. George Zimmerman is suffering emotionally and financially, and
knowing that Derek is it shoven Shavin who chovenged Ken?

Speaker 7 (01:02:13):
I think it's Chauvin, but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Well he rely.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
I didn't know this it went people were talking about
it on social I thought it was recent, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
It was from last year.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
But basically he got shanked twenty two times last year
in jail and then I guess now he's on like
watch like I guess people. Basically he's not safe in jail,
so he has no peace. And I just want to say,
you know, my yes ma'am to all of that, to say,
it's not because I want to wish bad on people.
Y'all know that's not me, you know, my heart, but
because I am petty. I think all three of these

(01:02:45):
people did terrible things and thought that the leopards would
eat their face and now they have they have nothing
to eat. Literally, they literally have nothing to eat. And
so I'm saying this week, nothing comes from being a
terrible human. And this is a testament there is only
so much like you may and you may be doing
something terrible now and it may feel good and you

(01:03:07):
may be thriving in the process of it, but it's
going to catch up with you. The terrible that you
are doing, especially to other people, that is gonna find you.
And so I just definitely wanted to say that's my yes, ma'am.
This week is knowing that karma is finding these people
who truly deserve it, and anybody else who voted for
that man, anybody else who was supporting Ice and Maga

(01:03:28):
and all this other stuff. Trust me, it may not
feel like it're right now, but but the karma's gonna
come and it's gonna find your ass.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I just want to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
The other Uh so, my no man, Pam for this week,
I was gonna go on this long tirade, but again
I know we don't have the time for it. I
definitely want to say my no man, Pam, So please
work with me and and rock with me. When I
say this my no man, Pam, is the folks who
are so quick to give kudos to the folks doing
the bare minimum.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
What I mean by that is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
I see, like, we saw what happens, so by the
time you all hear this, it'll be a week out.
We saw what happened to the woman in Minnesota. A
lot of people have been saying her name and have been,
you know, speaking about her lived experience and all the
great stuff that she does.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
And that's that's, yes, please.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Continue to share that information, but also that that's like
the bare minimum right like that, there there's so much
more that needs to be done around keeping black and
brown people safe right now, and there's so many people like, oh,
kudos that you're out there, you know, fighting off ice. Okay, yes,
but also what else are you doing? I think we

(01:04:32):
should all be we should all be pissed off at
the system right now, because truly fuck the system, right
But I feel like there's so much more that so
many of us can be doing. And I think folks
are waiting for black and brown folks to put their
bodies on the line to convict the system. And I'm
gonna tell you right now, it ain't gonna be me.
I'm not I'm not gonna throw Marcia did it. I'm

(01:04:52):
not gonna be Marsha. I'm not gonna throw the first brick.
I'm not gonna put my life on the line for
other people to have the humanity. I'm gonna do it
for my people, right, y'all know me. I'm I'm I'm
I'm a doe in these rooms. But I'm not gonna
be the person out in the front, on the front
line trying to put my life on the line. So
I definitely just want to say, you know, so many
people are giving claps to companies, Like I saw how

(01:05:13):
fast people were so excited that Hilton did what they did,
and then we saw them roll row back like like
that literally is the bare minimum. Yeah, Like I would
love for us to get to a place where we're like, good, do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
More, do more.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
Yeah, that's a nice start.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Yeah, now I start.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
It's a great start that you put those ice people
out of the hotel. Now what else are you going
to do?

Speaker 6 (01:05:35):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Now, what else? So that's literally where my mind is right.
If you have the capital, if you have the ability,
if you have the privilege, I need you. In twenty
twenty six to be doing more than just saying, oh,
I did this thing, Please give.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Me my shine. So that's where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Well, we'll throw it to you Joho, or we'll throw
it to you David, and then we'll throw it into
Joho and then we'll close.

Speaker 6 (01:05:55):
Sure, yeah, okay, So my yes, ma'am is uh uh.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
It's simple.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
It is body oil, period, it's specific brand.

Speaker 7 (01:06:07):
So no. So I I told.

Speaker 6 (01:06:10):
Myself that this year I was gonna get back into
sense and layering and like figuring that whole thing out.

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
And and I'm very new to it, but I started.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
I went.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
I went to the African.

Speaker 6 (01:06:21):
Shop right that has like the little things in the
in the little jas right for yeah, very minimal price,
right like I used to when I was a kid,
Like I used to go a shop, get you a
little thing. And so I just bought a whole bunch
of them. And I bought one that is called it's
called Margella, right o Margella. I don't know which Margala
it is, but it's it's some Marsella. And then I

(01:06:43):
bought one called Pistachio, a baby mixing that Margella with that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Pistachio took it to another place. I am.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
The people are turning ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:06:53):
Who sounds like that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Yeah, okay, dress, so I can pull y I love it.
I love a good queen.

Speaker 6 (01:07:04):
Honey, I'm gonna get y'alloth So I'm like, oh my gosh,
this is great. And now I'm like, oh, should I
like look at the actual perfume? Like, should I like
go to the sapharia like check it out? I don't
know the cheap version is working for me, so I'm
just saying yes, yeah, yeah, cheat, yes, ma'am to cheap
body oil and supporting.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Local businesses, amen, Amen, black businesses.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
Huh.

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
So that's my yes, ma'am. And then my noman Pam.
It's funny, my mom's name is Pam. Hey mom, My
noman Pam would be uh, stop touching people without cassette
period period.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Say it again for the people in the back.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Don't touch me, touch it, touch me me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Anyone, don't touch me without consent.

Speaker 6 (01:08:03):
Consent all right, and and and if you really want
to get good, it should be enthusiastic consent.

Speaker 7 (01:08:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
The concept of if we're in a sexual situation, right,
you're flirting with me whatever, whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
I need to you need to. I need to know
that before you touch me. I need to know that
you have communicated that you want to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:08:30):
It doesn't feel good to have someone jump the gun, right.
And as you both know, your audience probably doesn't know.
But like I go to a lot of sex parties,
a lot of sex events and things like that, and
what happens is people assume that because you're a yeah
you're at a sex event, that you can be touched.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
I'll get a little graphic, right. I just made a
video about this.

Speaker 6 (01:08:51):
I was at a sex party recently, fucking someone right,
and then someone comes up a hot me.

Speaker 5 (01:08:56):
He puts a finger in my butt right in the
but hole.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Now danger.

Speaker 6 (01:09:16):
I wish I wish I could say that was the
first time that happened, but it happens often. And you know,
the people that are doing it are doing it literally
because you can't see them.

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
That's what freaks me out the most.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
I know if I looked at the start the face,
they wouldn't have done that. They're doing that because I
can't see you. That is so predatory to me. What
else are you doing? If you're doing that, what else
are you doing? What else are you doing in here?

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
They're that are just very alarming.

Speaker 6 (01:09:50):
And even I posted this video about talking about the
same thing, and some of the comments, I'm like, y'all
do see y'all do realize people can see these?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
You do? Right? You do recognize? I can't see Jesus public.

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
Everyone can see people like, well, I bet I better
not go to sex parties because I'll be breaking all
the rules.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
We can know that. Yeah, yeah, you're telling me you're man,
you're invited anymore? You're not invited? Yeah, yeah, that.

Speaker 6 (01:10:23):
Would be my No, man, Pam, just get consent. It
doesn't always have to be verbal. At least look at.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Me, yeah something, Yeah, yeah, I feel bad. Yeah that's fair.
Oh I hate it. I hate so much.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
M I'm uh sorry, I'm I'm like flashing back to
like the towns and when people just being their moody
please yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
I hate it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
My my, yes, ma'am is. I've been watching episodes of
the Rue Paul Show from the nineties lately.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Okay, okay, you want to YouTube YouTube, okay and see
some clips it kind of ate.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I shall not lie listen the ship that I give
up today.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
I will eat my words and when I say this,
they did that in the nineties, like we were one
and one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
They had share Dana Ross Kim. Yeah, they had some
people on this show.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
There's an episode with with Rupol's dead that's really good.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Oh really yes, yeah, okay, yeah, I definitely love to
see that.

Speaker 7 (01:11:30):
Yeah the show.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
I was like, no, what Rue you ate the up
like y'all you were. They were giving us a whole
thing that would like you just would not have seen.
Like I'm like, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
And I always I always give refect to Rue of
like I know that in the day, like she was
a queen and people were dying for doing what she
was doing right and right in the most public of ways.
And so like sometimes I'm like, girl, please stop racking.
I'm like, no, what you really did, Like you really
did bust through a door for for many folks. So

(01:12:01):
that showed me and it was honestly fun. I was like, honestly,
some some of the girls say could never.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Do show like this, just not the same. So she
is and was revolutionary.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
I will say this not to cut you off, but
someone was saying that they fear what AI will be
once Rupa gets their hand on it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
So was like, you know, we only got a couple
will gets her hands on a I was like, she's
just like just chanting ship. That's just more of that.
It's more of that to be like, is weird? Do
not give her ail? She don't need that, somebody, no man, Pam,

(01:12:43):
It's just gonna be fun. I say every day, way before, during,
and after.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
The administration for empowering any enforcement to use to use
force against people like hate law enforcement, especially hate ice
especially Now, may we go to my memory, be a
blessing this one who was shot I mean yesterday or
I guess about last week. Maybe for a blessing and
for and for our revolution, makes you get justice for

(01:13:07):
what happened to her, because that like should never happen.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
And I just like I am it is it is?
Is they eight January? Why? Like that's why I said
this has been I said this in the pre show.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
This has been the longest literally the longest decade of
the week, like it has been it has been a
decade in a August decade of the week.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Yeah, it has been so long.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Like I literally when I'm done with recording tonight, I'm like, what,
like I'm so happy I have a light day tomorrow
because I genuinely I don't think I could do it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
I don't think I could. I don't think I.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Could process or function at the level I function today.
Tomorrow I'm not going to be able to do it.
But yeah, and I also want to say kind of
to your point, Joho, not to make this go too long,
but also friends of the show who listened, who are
listening to the show, friends who are actively out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
There, please be safe, Please protect yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Please make sure that you're letting your family and your
friends know if you're going to marches, if you're doing
anything to protest, Please make sure that you're taking care
of yourself and that you're watching out for yourself. Because
the last thing we would like to hear over here
at Blackfatfem is, you know, somebody got harmed trying to
do the right thing, which, again, I love that you're
wanting that you're that you're out there, but just please

(01:14:18):
make sure that you're taking care of yourself and the process.
With that being said, this has been such a fun episode.
Oh my, I like, literally, I'm so happy we started
the year this way. Listeners, send us your thoughts, your
feedback and email to Blackfatfempod at gmail dot com. We
love getting responses from you. Also, yes, we want to
hear more from you. You can send your thoughts via
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(01:14:41):
drop us a line over at Instagram or Threads by
using to handle Black Fatfempod. Miss the Butch Queen. Where
can our listeners fans you? Or where do you want
to be found?

Speaker 7 (01:14:50):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
You can find me at your local sex party or.

Speaker 6 (01:14:55):
Online at David Brandon my handle everywhere d A v
I D B R A N d y N for
the last name, and then the podcast is called Butch
Queen after Dark.

Speaker 5 (01:15:06):
It is on Spotify, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts.

Speaker 6 (01:15:10):
I'm sure I'll put it the other places too, but
I just started my last episode last week. Uh so
on my first episode last week, so uh yeah, check
it out there and yeah follow for all the things.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
I love it, and we will definitely put all that
information in our description box for folks who are wanting
to hop over there and look at all the good
entertainment but also wanted to listen to it as well.
Please Jojo where can the Dolls find You?

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Of course, my love that you can find me at
Joho Dann Sacross all the sol shows my website Joe
Nailce dot com. If not there, my obsession is over.
Now I can the hockey, that gay ass hockey show behind.
I guess you will instead. I mean, know what, You're
gonna find me doing a poll class somewhere this year.
I want to get into Polly.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Judge just for me, or has a pole? I'm like, no, girl,
watch you work work, yes, please, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
I think of myself every time I'm on a pole.
I think of myself. Have you ever seen that gift
of that chicken dancing around the pole? There's a there's
like a meme if I always think of myself as
that chicken that pole.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
Every time I'll be posting this, I'll be posting that
clip with us audio.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
She was giving that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Pole, she was moving around that pole. I said, that's me,
that's me on that pole. I know that's right. I'm
a chickens for me and mine. You can head down
to w W dot dot John Paul dot com to
get my book. I'm back in the streets to consult
if you're interested in consulting and any type of entertainment, consulting,

(01:16:47):
any type of work, whether you want to ask some
questions about podcasts, whatever the case may be, I'm open
to that. Do know that I do charge, So if
you are interested in that, just know how you're gonna
have to run me a check. Otherwise, you can find
me on Threads by using the handle at doctor John Paul.
That's and also on LinkedIn. That's where I'm kind of
blowing up right now. You can go buy my book.

(01:17:07):
Always support black art. You can go buy my book.
You can buy the Barnes and Noble, Amazon, all the
places where you get your book. Black Fat Fem, I
would say, the sister to this podcast. And then you
can also watch all of my specials, have the special
with Delta work for her show and then as well
as the ABC America Who Am I Meant to Be?
So yeah, head over and do that. With that being said,

(01:17:29):
this has been another show. Stay Black Fat Fem and
fabulous and remember what Jojo.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
We may not be a cup of tea girl, but
get some water. You're gonna have to get your back
broke anyway is okay. Look, you can't have a good
time if you're dry. You got to stay hydrated.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
I love us for real. I s'all next week buy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
The Black Fat Femme podcast is executive produced by Joey
Pye and Doctor John Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
All content related to the show was edited by Chris Rogers.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
This has been a podcast by iHeartMedia and Doctor John
Paul LLC The Black Fat Film Podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Where all the intersections of a dandy are celebrated. Honey,
I know that's right.

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