Unlawful AND Awful

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the BFF Blackfeffilm podcast on the iHeart
Podcast Network. Hey, welcome to another episode of the blackfef
Field Podcast. While the Intersections of Identity, I celebrated how
much is your host John's will know this Doctor John Paul,
And as I've mentioned in shows before, I want to
bring it back up because I feel like it's it's

(00:23):
I feel like we need to talk about this again
because a bit is tired. People who have to back
into a parking space come closer. I want you to
come here, Come here, just lean in. I'm gonna grab
you by your ear When I ask this question, what
what does it accomplish? What do you get out of
inconveniencing everybody else because you have to back in?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I want to know.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
I would like to know how.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I would like to know that.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I would that I love it like I'm fine because
I don't let me let me just Usually I would
respond to your you know the things you do at
the beginning of this, but my acts well today because
I am I'm also a backer, and so I hate it. Actually,
you're supposed to when you have two cars facing forward,
you're supposed to back in. Actually, in between them. So

(01:12):
your doors, your front doors will hate each other because
because the front door is right, if you're part of
the same way, you're more likely to hate each other.
And so when you back and you actually it actually
is easier for you in between to you your front
doors don't block, don't like hate each other. If you
get in the car the same time or something that's like,
that's one reason why to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's also it's it's just a bad bitch booth.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
You're I mean, inconveniencing only.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
If people are around you. Girl, don't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
But there is a reason. But there is a reason why.
Like that reason between the cars is a good reason,
because you don't want to fuck up someone else's car
or your own vehicle.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Okay, you said, I don't buy it. I want to rock.
I am a girl that can.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, because nothing, nothing at this point, any nothing in
this world makes any sense anymore. So I'm not gonna
sit here that part. You tend to act like I like, okay,
who cares?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Who care?

Speaker 1 (02:07):
But if you are a backerunner and you see three
or four other cars behind you and you take that
time out of that part, I hope you go down.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
That part is like, girl, if you have a line
behind you, but I vacuum is one behind me, is
one for me, one person because I get back in fast. Also, bitch,
that you're doing twenty seven point turns. Girl, do a
simple three point drinks like a damn day.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
So don't listen when I back in, Bitch, I'm swift.
Did call me Taylor? Okay? Is so good and I
see it for people like you.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's the people who back in, Yeah, don't know what
doing back forward, stop and they stop and then they
go back.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
And somebody knock over our grandma on the way out
to much doing too much but much doing too much.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, but you know what, let me stop whining because
ain't nobody gonna give me no cheese. So with that
being said, how you doing, bestie?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Oh my god, John.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
First of all, I'm tired. I will say love you
is your Bessie, Joe Jordan ak Joe. Keep every week, motherfucker,
I'm here remind y'all wells.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Two things.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
One, let me just say, my lips is so chapped.
God damn DC, it was so cold, bitch. I used
a whole tup of vasili on my lips. And I
still come back, still come back with some chapid lips.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I hate that shit.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Now I'm here to remind y'all that fat people don't
owe y'all nothing about their health. If you follow me,
you may have seen my stories rent last week about this, and.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's why I urge folks to refrain from sharing your
concern with fat people about their health.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
If you cannot provide concern in the form of financial support,
mental health support, a bigger playing Caesar systems, change your
concern is a bullshit. I have time as we baby,
don't try me, Try try Jesus, tryry your mom.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, don't try me. You know.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Even Apple they now have the Creator Studio which you
can try for thirty days. You can go in Apple
you can try the thirty days free of the Creator Studio. Yeah,
it's thirty days you get to try it. So yeah,
don't try it.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
You know, since fucker's like too much, why don't you
ask chat? Yeah? Why? Why? Why?

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Why why should I Why should reframe ask some fad
people about their health because it will tell you because
it's not your damn goddamn business.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Nothing about anyone does Anyone.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Says that goddamn business.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
No, you don't ask some people about their health, girl,
we won't ask me, God.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Damn, because there are a lot of ten people who
are on crack no shape. I'm just saying a lot
of thann people do coke. A lot of damned people,
you know. And let me say this right, people are concerned.
For example, our round Da Sindaribo and Michelle Yoh, they
are respectively.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
They are famous actors who have resources. If they have concern,
they will handle themselves. You don't, you don't even need
not to worry about them like people.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
You don't. You don't know people's lives.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
No, you aren't respectfully, you actually aren't their friend, like
you don't need to.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
I think that's that's the game. I don't remember. Social
was gone too far, Like I don't know who you are?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Girl? Stop did I tell you? But y'all to say
about the man?

Speaker 3 (05:07):
But said I'm on this week because I did not
share this on my stories. But when I flew back
from DC, I went to the airport, and before the airport,
I had brunch early, like a few hours earlier with
a friend Lien DC. So about the airport and this
guy is like, hey, how is your lunch? And I
was like, what do you mean? He was like, how
is your lunch? And I was like, I did not

(05:29):
eat here, so like, I don't know what you mean,
Like do I know you? He was like, oh, well,
I had the Virginia oysters. And I was like, oh,
you were at the restaurant I was at earlier. Is
that what you're saying. He was like, yeah, it was.
It's funny that you can. But you recognize me. And
he was like, of course I recognize you, baby, You're
not very small. And I was like, oh, okay, okay,

(05:50):
I said, huh yeah yeah, and Joe your flight, Yeah,
that's it's very fucking rude to say, but okay.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I was like and I was like, I don't get
what the like why was I like what? And like?

Speaker 3 (06:02):
And I literally like I was walking with friends and
so like and like and like my friends were like yeah,
and I was.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Like, but that is the day in the life of
a fat person. That is that is the day of
the life of the fat person. People feel like they
can say all this and do even the sny yo,
what's up?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
What's up? Big man? Fuck you baby, I don't know
who you are. I don't you saw me? And also,
mind you, the restaurant was for forty five minutes away.
You you took it. You went out of your way
to tell me, So ask me how is your lunch? Bitch?
How is your lunch? And then how how was lunch?
You fat bitch? Just basically, hey, fats, what did you get?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Right?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
What did you get on?

Speaker 3 (06:38):
You just saw Obviously you saw my fucking lunch, didn't you?
Because you for it the whole you co tell you,
because I'm gonna telling you my friend went Dutch. What
you could have said? He could have said, So that
person over there, hey I got them.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, I know what.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yes, they did get the French and in soup and
the duck and the bread and the pie.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
And I will pay for all of it, yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, but no, no, just just just.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Just dumb and like if you would have cussed him
out in that moment in that airport, would have been
the person I would.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Get at the airport and missed my flat home. And
I was like, now the other thing, and he was
he was you know, you know what he was. And
of course, and usually those are the ones that go
for me. And so I was working out, was like,
is he flirting with me? Because given that he's flirting
with me because old man, oh man love the big
bitch and the young big bitch.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Listen, I realized people do love big bitches.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
They don't share it out loud, but old man love
the big bitch like they sure they also trans they
also Okay, okay, you know I'm gonna go on record
and say it.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Some of y'alla are married to men who love trans women.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
They just say they love all. They love they they
they have enough Barbie at homes. They love it all.
How you doing?

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Anyways, this week's episode gonna be a tough one, y'all
besides the Shangans right now, but a necessary one because
we got a lot to get through.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
So a man, we're gonna kick out furs show that.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
We do every week by giving them as Tish Campbell
her flowers and our still hair segment, her thoughts and
prayers are maybe one day she comes on here to
give a bit of levity before the seriousness of our
discussions today and knowing we're beating.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
A new month or this year, which is girl, that
is crazy. I was so fast. I'm gonna ask you, girl,
how was your month.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
And using your little crystal ball, how do you think
this will be? How do you think this will set
the tone for the rest of the year. For me,
this year has already been rabbit like, it's a nasty
time to be a lot.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
This I think of did you want did you watch
Girls Trip? I did?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I did when Tiffy Hash breaks breaks the glass and
she's like, you were nasty, nigga, you.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Were nasty, And that's why I feel about That's why
I feel about this.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
This this year already he was a nasty year. And
so you know, we are witnessing saints fiction balance and
damn near every damn day, people doing dumb ass ship
at that in the airport, and yet m we you
and I you know, and some people are also getting
great opportunities as creators and leaders. And it's giving like
a chaotic balance to me, like the year is a

(09:15):
wild because shiit keeps in the fan like shit keeps
happening as well. To listen, I'm a liver. I love
a scale. I love balance, love balance. The skills is
always tipping in everyone's favor. But like girl, these this
this skill is like fucking rocking the boat.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Baby, yeah, it's very much. You have ever seen that meme?

Speaker 1 (09:36):
But that little boy who's going down to slide and
as he's going down to slide, he's bumping his hair
all the way down. That's literally what this year is
already given.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
To, its already given us.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Will I ever get easier? Yeah, we'll ever get easier.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
That is the quest I think of the Degrassia theme song.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Whatever it takes, I know I can make it through. Bitch,
I can't make it through. If I struggling, I'm not
making it.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Three Yeah, Monday, Monday was that day for me. Monday
I woke up and I said, oh, this is bad, honey.
I said, okay, this is bad because most days are
usually like, oh, everything's gonna be good. We got to
be good. We got to support each other. I got
my community. But Monday I woke up and I said, oh,
we are in danger, Honey. I said, this is a bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(10:28):
we very much. Who is Sam Wheat, Sam Wheat? Yes,
it's it's very much giving. Uh, we are all in danger.
But yes, to your point, very much giving chaotic balance.
I will say this, this has been the longest year.
This month, so much has happened in January from and
we're gonna talk more about it a little bit, so

(10:48):
I don't want to like super dive too much into that,
but what I will say is I'm happy that it
feels like a light cut back on in me. And
what I will say is I I what I dance
between is the fear that this type of I call
it productive productive depression, like this productive feeling that I

(11:12):
have of like, Wow, it's really bad and there's so
much going on, but I have to figure out how
to work through it. I'm really not trying to normalize that,
but I'm also asking the question is this going to
be how it always is? And I functional depression, right,
I'm really trying my best to not let that overtake everything.
But what I will say is that in the midst

(11:34):
of the functional depression, I have been functional and so
still showing up to record, still showing up to teach,
still showing up to do work stuff, still showing up
for friends, going to conferences, and doing like this month
was very much kind of like Okay, girl, you can
be down, but you got to get up, you got
to move, you got stuff to do, and so you know,

(11:56):
even down to like, for I mean, last year, I
didn't write any thing. Like last year, I literally outside
of whatever last minute things I need to do from
a book, I didn't write anything. And so to be
back in a place now where I'm writing, which I
will tell more of tell more of you about that later.
Joe you already know, so like being able to get
back into the writing swing of it, and then you

(12:18):
know there's something Me and Chris, you know, Chris shout
out to our editor, we had said, like way before
the show was even like the show that it is,
me and Chris were talking about doing something and so
we're finally now almost nine years later, doing it. And
so just setting ourselves up for all of those kind
of things. I think that for me is literally just
telling myself, like, girl, you can't wait for nobody to

(12:40):
give you a green light. You've got to be creative.
You have to continue to make stuff in this world,
because right now they're doing everything that they can do
to take our creativity, our stories, whatever Joey and whatever
light that we're putting out to the world. They want
to take that away. And so it's like and then
also recognize it too, like my productivity, he relies heavily

(13:01):
on you got to get paid, and so if I
don't do I don't make no money.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
And I'm not trying to go backwards.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
So just really getting up and saying, bitch, you you
could do it, but if you got to cry when
you do it, cry when you do it, but really
think about at the end of the day, you know
you still gotta do what you gotta do. So it
has been productive. I'm I'm I'm beating functional depression today,
but I'm learning and and the words of friends, I'm

(13:28):
learning to take it day by day, and that for
me is what I've I've had to do in January.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
So one step back a time y.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, Jordan with the I n the little heel walking.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah yeah, well yeah, the ghost of the Sylvia Brown's
last know that the land, Honey, the land. What has
in the store for us? We're look at our first
break back at just to say, hey, fam, just so

(14:15):
you know, the conversation about to have next is a
pretty heavy one. So we will put a trigger warning
in here for folks who be impacted by ice or
state station violence that if you want to skip this
part and go do what's popping segment. Please feel free.
We'll put in the show the show notes what timestamp
that is to skip this, but we encourage you to

(14:35):
stay and listen because it is important for us, for
us to discuss together. Thank you, Okay, fam, We are back,
and as we said earlier, today is going to be
a tough but an important conversation because we're discussing state
sanction violence, what's happening in the world, and our analysis
of it through what you're doing it with like.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
A joyful not to cut you off, but you I'm like,
this is scary, but go off. This is you know,
I'm trying to make it a little easier for us.
I'm all first speaking of my share in the names
of people we know who've been killed and are harmed.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
By ICE in the past thirty days. Renee Good, Alex Preddy,
Keith Porter, Heraldo Luna's Campos, Victor Manuel Diaz, Peladi, La
Louis Beltan, Jannis Cruz. I'm gonna say, probably wrong, but
a bed of Sanchez Dominguez and Luis Gustavo Nunias Carcettis.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Let's start here.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Twenty five was ICE's deadliest year and within twenty years
with three two people dying in ice custody, whether they
were in a facility or a hospital or in ice custody.
It's February by the time this who comes out, and
the list is nearly a third of that number already.
What do you think is pushing this? And how are
we seeing Communiti's fight back?

Speaker 1 (15:56):
What I will say is, you know, as I was
reflecting on your questions what happened, I.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Was just gonna say, but but y'all, avoidance is privilege, So.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Okay, we can wake that up to you, right.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's like for us to pretend like none of this
is happening and go on about our day when it
is literally impacting so many people in so many different ways.
And so I appreciate you bringing up this conversation because
part of the thing around here is that, like, yes,
we love to have fun, we like to talk shit,
we love to talk about pop culture, but we also
have to talk about.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
The stuff that is impacting and harming us.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
And as much as people keep thinking, well, ice is
not my thing, because you may not be LATINX, or
you may not be someone who is from you know,
who might be an immigrant, or you may not be
somebody from you know, another international, you know country, because
we do recognize that not all people who are immigrants
are LATINX. Like every anyone can be an immigrant, right anyone,
And so no matter who you are right here, yeah,

(16:51):
anyone can be an immigrant, no matter where you're from. This,
this ICE situation is going to impact you. But what
I will say to your question is these niggas want
to out of here, and that's really what it comes
down to. They believe that this is their land and
they want us off of it by hooker crook. And
but the gag is right. And I keep saying, you know,

(17:11):
I I know throughout today's episode, I'm going to be
saying nigga a lot. So I was like, because that's
really my only way to say it. Like they forget
that nobody is legal on stolen land, and so that
privilege seeps through in every capacity because people believe, oh

(17:32):
I was here first, and it's like, naw, girl, your
people came here, y'all. Niggas didn't even know how to
get here the right way. Y'all was lost. So if
you really want to talk about it, like y'all, y'all
like you you think so much like you literally in
your head believe that this is quote unquote your land,
but it is not, and it's never been, and so

(17:53):
it just it's it's frustrating and it's mind boggling to
see people utilizing government and utilizing law enforcement, all these
different systems to harm other people when really these people
are here because they just want peace. And that's the
thing that really bugs me. Right when you talk about
folks who are immigrants, regardless of where you're an immigrant,

(18:14):
from where you come from, a lot of the conversation
is is I came here because I felt like my
life would be better if it was here. And then
they get here and they realize that they're being tortured
and they're being treated poorly or damn near killed, and
it's just like for what for what? Like I don't
care that you come. You're not taking And that's the

(18:34):
other thought, Oh, you're taking resources out of my baby.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
You were broke before they got here. Seriously, our government
doesn't care.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
About anybody, so you so you're over here talking about
they're taking my jobs. Nigga, you didn't have a job
before they got here, Before whatever person got here. I shit,
I'm from here, and I can't even really a job
like that, so like what, like what what is it?
Cam like, what is it?

Speaker 2 (19:05):
What is like it?

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I think for me, that's literally my biggest frustration is
just there's so much of this is my land, this
is where I belong.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
So I'm going to do everything I can to get
you off of it.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
And it's like, girl, the land that you quote unquote
love and that you you so stand by is has
been doing you dirty for centuries, but here we are, okay, okay,
But yeah, I think as I was thinking about this,
you know, I I keep thinking about how so much
of this relates to the system of state sanctioned violence,

(19:36):
and I just kind of wanted to know what your
take was on it, because I know I said them outful.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
So you know, one, I think just your point about
land and soul in land, right, and like, honey, the
life that we are honey, the land, honey, the land
that we were literally built off of immigration, right, Like
m I I want to likeocused on that for a
moment because I am so curious what history some people

(20:07):
actually receive, what education do they receive?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Right?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
And the history is told none? I mean, but like
I don't I don't think it's none.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I like I I think they. I think thea to receive.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Is literally that Americans have been here forever, like I
think that's what the right like, or that they believe
the start of America, well, that the start of the
country was a start of America, which is the start.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Of like.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Exactly right like like like and I think people really
take that story and run with it. And I and
and I think they're like somebody like like there's a
there's a I think some people have a pride in that,
which I think is really wild and weird, right and
like and definitely like this idea of I've always not
funny because.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
We frame.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
The East right like people frame like like like eastern
Eastern countries and like you know or like like like
the idea of like orientalism, right, is idea of framing
people from Eastern places as like as a barbaric, Right, Yes,
we came from an Eastern place like as colonial people

(21:15):
and then then felt the Western people were also.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Barbaric and then slaughtered them.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
And I'm like so so like so what who I
like if if if you the area, if the if
if you think everyone's.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Around around you is barbaric? What are you girl?

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Like, like if you ad barbaric but they aren't doing
barbaric things?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
What is you are you? Are you not the barbarian yourself?

Speaker 1 (21:39):
There?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Like that's about so I'm like, let's talk about that.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
And stain station, yes, yes, state.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Station violence is unfortunately the bedrock of the American project, right,
And I use the term project because I think we're
in the midst of a seismic shift. I a more
public experience of mass killing and acceptance of it as
American life. It was one thing when winness violence and
our highest cournent leaders we're condemning it, But now they're
the ones spearheading it, right, And the government always has

(22:09):
in some ways too, but like publicly, they haven't publicly
in some ways and now like they are no holds barres.
And I think that, I think is a new experience
that we have to grapple with as citizens here right
like we are seeing now like right like in some
cases of right like black folks, I have always said from jump,
this place does not want us.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Here is sensation violence. It's killing us every day.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, And we see the systems of government systematically distinguishing
our lives and killing us.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
But we still see our like.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Mayors or council people or presidents or governors condemning that,
and now our highest person in power who can who
in some cases controls like so much of our of
our agency as a country believes in what's happening, like
wants it to happen, in as pushing for it to happen,

(23:01):
and is using force to do it and then living
others when like I thought the language of Alex Pretdi
being armed, like oh, he's armed in dangerous and I'm like,
but literally Ice is armed and dangerous like this man
who list man carried an open carried state m h
and like he didn't even like furnish it anybody, He

(23:21):
just had had it on his person yep, And that
was grounds to kill him. But like because he was
dangerous and armed. But you all like again, you're also
what do you mean you're you're armed dangerous too, and
so it's just like yep, And I think it's also
like a we're in like the the I call it
like the Great Gaslight Campaign, like we are being gas

(23:45):
lit every day and in some cases I will say
this like it's kind of masterful like it's kind of
masterful how much our government part, our administration is gasling
us every day n day and it makes me like
do we feel do we believe this?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
And also like I like right.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
To the point of the the like the the land
being taken, that was the beginning of us in looking
violence upon others and building our country off of it.
And so this is like a project, right, like like
like we haven't been here for thousands of years. We
are relatively still Newborn's type of country, and we are
and we are trying to build it by force, and

(24:27):
that is harming people. And I'm also curious your thoughts
about your thoughts on this because knowing your background is
an educational justice right and social just as is a
big part of your practice.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, So I've been really intentional about not getting my
own underwear in a bunch because what I understand and
what I know not only just from like a scholarly
and a research practice, but also from a place of
like just being black, fat, queer and living in this
world that all of this stuff is created. And when

(25:02):
I say created, it's like you said, it's masterful the
way that it's the way that it's constructed. It's intentional. Right,
the chaos that's being created is intentional, and so kind
of back to your point, I definitely wanted to make
sure that I didn't lose this thought that when you
said that, you know, you said it's masterful.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Really it's it's by design.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
And I think that's the thing I really want people
to fully understand, is that the anger and the frustration
and the like, why why is no one doing anything
about this? Is because it's by design.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Also, I was gonna say, I was gonna that was
the other thought that I had before I was going
to go back and say, I think it's also very
funny we talk about immigration, but I'm like, isn't that
the same thing your people did? Didn't the people from
England immigrate over here to.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
So and that's why my immigration is the lead part
of the entire like and what everybody, well, we were
So that's why I'm That's why I'm like, I'm like,
you think you think the country began when we when
we came here, Like, like do you know like that's giving,
that's giving flat earth theory, that's giving.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, Yeah, that's giving.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
That's giving what's about like evolutionists over like big bangs.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Do you think that look like this?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
This was just Lanta's inhabited and then we came and
then bam, we inhabited and we made this country.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Like yeah, girl, so come.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
On, yeah, come on, and and so that, so that,
and so to your point, you know, and and when
you ask us question about educational justice and you're like,
you know, you have a doctorate in it, you know.
I I immediately went to this place of saying, people
keep forgetting how powerful education is and how powerful it
is not. And so what I mean by that is

(26:38):
when you don't you know, I kind of always have
said this, and I will keep saying this until probably
I'm six feet under. It's not intention it's not intentional
that slave owners didn't want slaves to read.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
It's not it's it's.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Not by chance that low s c O s c
S socio economic status individuals, folks who live in poor areas,
of people who don't make quota onum good money.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
It's not lost on me that they don't have good education,
because the better their education, it allows them to understand
what's happening to them, and it allows them a map
to get out of it. So when you really think
about everything that has been happening, I keep saying this,
and I keep going back to this, think about why
this administration in twenty sixteen and in this and currently

(27:28):
has always gone after education. This is they came for
that right because they knew so even with and so,
so I've been seeing like, this was it yesterday I
saw so by the time y'all hear this, it'll be
last week. So last week we saw that case be
thrown out right about you know, all of the stuff
that's happening with with education versus you know, the government
trying to basically sue and say no di I and

(27:50):
all of that, and it basically was thrown out.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
And so everyone's like, yeah, got thrown out.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
But what I'm going is is like, no, no, yay,
they knew what they were doing by doing that, because
at this point, every every quote unquote good thing that
has been connected to education is now gone or or
fading slowly. So what I mean by that is the
you know, Black resource centers and the funding for de

(28:14):
I work and all of the people who were doing
de I work at the educational level and all that
they're gone, right, so.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
The damage is done.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Even even if this is even if this is thrown out,
we still don't have the right resources we need at
the educational level to help those who need it.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I e. Us.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
So that was intentional to go in. I've always said
this administration is literally like putting a Tasmanian devil in
a room and just letting that that Tasmanian devil go.
They're gonna chew on all the wards, They're gonna pull
all the wires off the wall. They're gonna mess up
because that's what they are like that they're in their intent.
There's no rhyme or reason, right, it's let me fuck

(28:56):
up everything that benefits other people because it doesn't benefit me.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
And that's really to your point.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
They're all uneducated buffoons, right, And so when they see
a me who has three degrees, they see you, who
who's who's very educated and very knowledgeable. I mean you
have a degree, and you also have all of the
things that you you you become a problem for them, right,
We collectively because our collective knowledge and even in this conversation, right,

(29:23):
our collective knowledge is more than they'll ever be able
to understand, and so that's the reason why, because it's easy.
I'll get off my soapbox in a second. But it's
easy also with the lack of education, to make people
believe it's their own fault for the world.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Well in the way it does.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
And I find interesting is that the people who are
doing this right are all educated themselves. Like the people
who are doing this, the ones they had education. And
so it's interesting because I'm like, I just say them, oh,
like of course, right, Like it's like they I agree,
they are cutting us off at the knees. Becomes educating
like art feutre generations. And so it's like it's like
there's like we were like, how do I say it?

(30:03):
Like it's fascinating and sad that they know the value
of education because they got the education that's where they
learned how to manipulate power and so then and so
then they're saying to keep power, we want them to
be uneducated.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Then yep instead mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
And so it becomes and so I want to make
this clear, right, as much as people don't talk about it,
Bush did the same thing. He was just less racist
about it. He was just like a lot of these
and that's the thing. I also want to make very clear.
You know, I'm not you know, I'm not pro Joe Biden.
I'm not pro Obama. Yes, you know, I'm not going
to say that they were all terrible. But what I'm

(30:41):
saying is is that every single system has done something
to cause harm to somebody, and we have to be
okay with that. We have to we have to sit
with knowing that as a country, that's just how our
country operates, right, our country operates from a place of harm.
But what I will say is this the idea that
they're making education more and more hard for people to

(31:01):
get in terms of cost, and the fact that they're
doing all of these things to try to dismantle education.
They know exactly what they're doing. They know exactly what
they're doing, and then they know how they're doing it,
and they know who what's going to impact the most,
because who are the most educated us?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
We are.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
So I guess now that i'm you know, now that
I'm done with my ted talk, I will like to ask,
because you made a point on your stories the other day,
and I don't want to call it a rant because
I don't think what you were saying that I could
see if you were talking about maybe you know, uh,
what's what's something that's not going to be problematic.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I could see if you were.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Going on a rant about Taco Bell getting rid of
their you know, uh the hot sauce, or if you
were going to talk about bakers changing their fris. That's
a rant. Okay, that's a rant. You're on a soap ox.
You're talking about all of the things that need to
change or that have change that you're not here for.
What you were saying were literal facts, Like every single
video was facts. So for me, I want to say

(32:02):
your stories really had something to say. And I think
what people are not paying attention to as much as
people are not paying attention to, there is a correlation
between the rise of ozimpic and the usage of ozimpic
and what it's being used for, and also state sanctioned violence,
And so I would love for you, considering what you

(32:22):
shared in your stories this week or yeah, past week,
what is body suppression and how do you see both
of them playing a role in all of the.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Stuff that's manifesting right now.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
I'm super happy that you asked, because some folks to
be tusking about that language and I also think it
connects to your point about making people uneducated too, right,
Like I'm making action about fatphobia and body policing to
ICE because the concept of body by suppression, which is like,
I mean, it sounds like right like you're suppressing the body.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
We have had voter suppression, we have gender suppression.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
So body suppression is like suppressing the body in the
ways in which it functions both like but like in
a in a physical way, in a power way, and
a like benep physical way, in a legislative way, in
all the all the above, right, it's supremely interconnected across
all these issues, and they relate to states to state
sanction in violence because our country has built at the

(33:18):
attempt to control what bodies are able and unable to
do here with spaces, we occupy, what rights we have,
education we receive, and so like, there is not a
disconnection between the war ICE wages on immigration and the
war Congress wages on transrise and healthcare or that or
that or that from big farmer wages on bodies. And

(33:39):
we know with the tools of Pozembic, right, there's just
different dimensions of each other. And so I am and
so I'm I'm at that point because like, like when
we elemit education for people, we're suppressing what they're able
to learn and what they're able to achieve, right like
like with education, and so we're suppressing their body through
their brain when we are talking about policing fat bodies

(34:01):
or health care suppression, which we're limiting what bodies can
do or access in life where you know, when we
think about the way we build our planes or theater venues,
we're limiting what we're limiting what big bodies can do
in public spaces. When we're thinking about health care, we're
limiting what trans bodies can do to get general forming care.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
When we think about people who.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Are immigrants being published by ice or murder biyes, we're
suppressing the bodies that can be in this country and
like like and like and their their desire to like
contribute to the country. To appoint made earlier you said,
you know many films who immigrate just wanted to come
here for a better place, and not just that the

(34:42):
yes for that and because we positioned ourselves as.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
A country to be the place whe people can.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Come from better the free, we literally marketed ourselves to
be the place where people can come to have better lives,
and then we punish and kill them for wanting aboutter
life that is, and like that that's the mind fuck
that we're having to deal with right now.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
That's the mind fuck body suppression we're dealing with.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
We're we are literally being right, like like like if
the whole country is a single human body. Right, immigration
is like our right arm transaction left arm body body
politics is like is like our left knee.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Right.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
We're being cut at every limb around us to prevent
us from movement, to prevent us from movement, work from
for like like like we're in an arabe. We are
trying to essentially fight for civil rights again, and we
are being cut at the limb.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
On every limb we're being cut.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Our tongues are being cut, our hands are being cut,
our legs are being cut, like we're being diced off
because to your point, the power above us knows that
that once we know better, we will fight for better,
havocate for better.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
And now not to cut you off, but also say
we all have more resources now to do that. Right,
We have social media, we have the knowledge, we have
the language, we have the which to.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
That point, right to that point.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Right again, with the suppression are being suppression with our tongue,
with the way that that person bought TikTok and other
sallencing the ads or the or what people can say
on TikTok or the way we see it on threads. Right,
Like social media, which was again purported to be a
place of like an extension of like the free mind
and free way of thinking, has now been has become

(36:28):
more more privatized and being more limited in what we
can do and do or say. I find it's so
funny in the worst way, in ironic way, how much
we like are the whole spectacle of sowing TikTok and
China for the for the owner ownership of TikTok, for.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Under the guise of censorship.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
When TikTok was like, we are not doing that, we
have no interest in doing that, just to do it ourselves.
Like basically, it's as saying no, no, you can't survey us,
we can surveil us.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I'm like, but I want, I want, I want me surveiled, regardless,
like I don't want me to surveiled. How's your business? Right?
But I want my business? Mind business?

Speaker 3 (37:09):
I paid you I guess we already because we because
because we've made taxes.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
So I pray for the day that we don't. I
pray for the days everybody collectively says fuck fuck and
I and you know, we may have to bleep this,
so Chris, go ahead and bleep this, because I don't
know if this could be on the air. But the
day that we say fuck, we are we are literally revolting,
Like I I get like I I literally can't wait

(37:35):
for the day that we wake up and recognize that
these systems don't can And that's the thing I keep
and and and that I think that that's the thing
I think that is most frustrating to me in this moment.
I know you have a point that we have to
make it, I know we have to move on, but
I was gonna say, I think the biggest thing that's
been frustrating to me is that there have been so
many people and it's not even just in the last

(37:56):
ten years. I'm thinking Angela Davis, I'm thinking you know
who else, Alice Walker, I'm thinking about all of these
people who wrote and spoke very vocally about these systems
and said these systems don't care for you, and now
we are where we are because so many people thought

(38:17):
that they were you know, oh, it's never going to
catch up with me.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
It's never going to be me.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
And now you're standing in line begging for food, just
like other black and brown people. You are being picked
up my eyes, yeah, like you are being picked up
by ice.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yep, yep. You you're having.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
To stand outside your door with the cow bells screaming
ice is coming because you voted against your own best interests,
because you thought that these systems were never going to
catch you with your underwear around your knees. And that
just it, and it it just baffles me. It really
baffles me. So I could go on for hours about it,
but it is something that really burns my biscuits.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
So how do we cope the questions.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Question I have for you?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
I know, yeah, that's a load of questions.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
You know. It took me a minute.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Actually when we were doing our when we were doing
the show prep and I saw this question, I actually
went down and I did other stuff and then I
came back to it because I didn't want to just
put something here. I genuinely wanted to say like I
and I mean this with my whole heart. I think
this is the question that I'm asking myself daily. How
do I continue to keep doing in a world that
is working over time to silence me, really honestly wants

(39:35):
to take my life away, Like I think the world
will be so and I say the world. I say
that as a broad stroke because I represent I feel
like I represent so many other things, right, I represent
liberation in so many different ways. The fact that I'm
so free about my queerness, the way that I'm so
free about my blackness, the way I'm so free about
my fatness, right, Like, these are all the things that

(39:55):
this world is like, ooh, we got to get that
person up out of here yep. And I've seen it,
Matta fested so many different ways, from my public firing
to the ways people probably don't support this podcast, to
the ways that people probably talk about me and meetings
that I'm not in, Like, I know that, right, and
so I think about that often. I try not to
harp on it, but it's a reality for me that

(40:16):
I go. I know that there are people and there
are places in this world that are looking at people
like me and Joho and are saying we got to
get them up out of here. We've got to find
a way to make them basically shut up. And I mean,
I mean, I just saw a story this morning about
how discrimination shortens our lives, and I think I have

(40:38):
been talking with my manager, you know, and this about
this conversation of you know, how much COVID has taken
away from us and how much COVID took off of
our life. And so there's been that, right. I even told,
you know, I told them, I said, I have not
been this I have not been this sick this many
times since COVID. Before COVID, I never got this sick.

(40:59):
And I grew up a and so I say all
of that to say and again, this is just my
long way around the band. I feel like between thinking
about COVID, thinking about discrimination, thinking about the ways of
our government, the ways that ice is harming people, the
way our government's harming people, the fact that people in
Palestine are still being harmed, Like it's really easy for

(41:21):
us to say, oh my god, nothing is ever going
to get better, It's gonna always be this way. But
I think that's the point. I think this world, I'm
gonna even say, this country, this world thrives on people
being hopeless and empty.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
It fuels capitalism and.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Racism because the more sad you are, the more you're
gonna buy right, the more poor you are, it's easy
for us to make me feel like you're a terrible
person for being poor or for being a marginalized individual,
and it's oh, you brought it on yourself. So I think,
for me, this is what I had to sit with.
I said, I think the best thing we all can
do is disconnect wherever you can. And what I mean

(42:00):
is not to check out, but to take a moment
for yourself. Like today I was telling you, I said,
I have an hour and thirty minutes today. I have
the means. I was actually a gift card. I have
a gift card. Let me run and go get this
deep massage real quick so I can get these gigs
worked out of my neck.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I did.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I told them, Mussu's I only got an hour. I
just need I just need silence and I just need
you to work this crook out of my neck.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Right.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
That for me was that moment of me saying, Okay,
now I can get back to going to my podcast,
I can go teach, I can go do these things
now that my neck doesn't hurt because rest is resistance.
So if it means you have to say no, it
means I don't have it today. I'm not gonna do
this thing, or I'm gonna take this money that I
know I have and I'm going to use it towards
something I really want to make me feel better. I'm

(42:45):
gonna go be in community. But friends, we're gonna cook,
We're gonna do whatever you need to do. Knowing that
you've got to rest is resistance. I even think about
taking a year off from writing and focusing on my
own wellness. It allowed me to come back and say, oh, okay,
now I know what I want to say, how I
want to say right after a year of not writing,
and so I just I felt like I needed that

(43:06):
and I believe that right now, self preservation and whatever capacity.
If you are a doll who likes, you know, to
do your thing with do your thing, do you do
you think?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Honey, whoever you do, just be safe.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I'm just saying, like, do whatever you have to do
to preserve yourself because that's gonna be the only way
for us to get forward. But also be okay with
telling people to get somebody else to do it.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
I know that's fucking right.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Well, fan, now we have you already call your Sanders,
your Stacom's people, or has somebody else do it March,
We're gonna take another break for you to do just
that more to say.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
All right, y'all.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
So for this week's What's Popping segment For those of
you who are new here, What's popping is when we
get into what's going on in the pop cultures, because Lord,
there's a lot of happening. There's a lot of things
that is going down to the pop culture. And so
this week we are going to hit y'all with two
requests from some of our listeners. One of the requests
was for us to talk about Traders, and then the

(44:09):
other one came through literally right before we were getting
ready to record. Someone wanted to know our thoughts on
Kanye and so I tapped my good girl on my
Good Judy and I was like, Yo, we got it.
We can add this to the What's Popping segment. So,
but that being said, first we want to get into
everything Traders.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Now.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
I love I will say this. I have a love
hate relationship with it. It is very bittersweet because I
do enjoy the show, but there's a lot. I have
a lot to critique around it, but hate it.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Everyone knows it is great tv. There's just no way
to get around it. It's such good tv. Then we
get into the race dynamics that keep popping up every episode,
and I think that's been my biggest critique is not
only just with Traders, but you think about Big Brother,
you think about Survivor, you think about really any game show,
there's always there seems to be this weird, interesting dynamic.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Where everyone wants black people to go home first.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
And so I guess we really want to just kind
of touch on that real quick about why. I know
why obviously, but I think for me, you had asked
me and the pre show you said, well, why do
you think that is? And I said, I think it
started with Suri being the first woman, the first black
woman to win. And I think more than anything, this
country has made folks more racist than what they want

(45:24):
to admit. I think even those who are like, oh,
I'm not racist, I'm like, yeah, bitch, well you're anti black.
So And if you want me to help you understand
that more, you can go to my website WWS dot
doctor John Paul dot com and pay for me to
educate you and the differences between anti blackness and racism.
But that's my take on it. What are your thoughts? So?

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (45:46):
So I know people are like, it's just a game
show girls, like why are you so bad and by it?
But I want us to interrogate the biases that people
make me come in with, right, like other wrong table.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
If you watch a show with Colton.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
And Tiffany, Colton came for Tiffany because he says she
was too aggressive, which already, right is like missage play
already a common threat that we seegainst my women for
being too aggressive. Yeah, when they're being smart people. Now
she write him down and she was, I am smarter
than you. But let's mind you Colting was also being
just just as aggressive. But as a white man, as
a white quereman, he's okay to do that. As a

(46:19):
football player, he's gonna do that, right, Like we give
him a pastor being aggressive, Like they literally eliminated Tiffany
and uh and Michael and then we're like, no, what
but Colden is really aggressive And it's like y'all didn't
think about that way earlier, right, being aggressive since day one,
like get like, so why can't you aggressive?

Speaker 2 (46:37):
But like like but like but but like but but.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Tiffany can't romy a good point as well when he
was like when he was like, y'all were all fine
when I loved for Michael, but when I have a
for Portia, like y'all are so all me for that?
Uh huh and like and listen like Portia going home first.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
She set herself up for that, like she set herself up,
like she said, you gotta watch that girl, girl, you
gotta watch how you play the game.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
You gotta be careful.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
She wasn't said for the best success in the show
for sure, right, so like I don't always I'm like
in the box, I.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Said, how you gonna say?

Speaker 3 (47:13):
I canna say what I say, like like when I
killed him and how many traits are like girl, like
you know you played yourself that one, right? You know
that was silly Monet like fucked up because they told Tiffany,
they told Candace about Lisa, and then Candace was on right,
so like right like like like that isn't where those
dyamics came out, but came out with Tiffany and came

(47:35):
Ron right, and versely, Ron quiet, black man, he's he he's.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
He just wanted to be left alone. And right, and
so and I and I'm shure and and and.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
People he used to quiet he's not playing the game enough, right,
And it's like, oh, like what bias might be that
we think black man one like we think black men
are always gonna be allowed people who take it space
right or like or the or or that they act different,
and so they're like, oh, like like there were literally
no reason why.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
I would ever have thought he was a trader.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Like there's a reason why I would have thought that,
like right, and like and like people could be like
either you're trating, you're playing a great fucking game, or
you're a faithful and I'll find out now and like
and Ron's like, I'm not playing up gaming. I'm like,
I'm just here like be on vibes and like have fun,
like you are rooting that for me, right, I think
ruining they are right, Like I I think what Boby
Dragons And Bob was a great player and was saying

(48:27):
ow right like like and he's fighting with with with
with Rob when Rob was so obviously the trader. And
Bob was not they can't get well, mean, Bob was
here actually a sorry bub but like like like with
Rob and Rob like came in, guns are blazing, right,
I think Peppermint, Peppermint who literally like there was nothing

(48:49):
that she had said that would have triggered any thought
in me that she was a trader, right, like I mean,
and and like obviously I'm like watching the show, so
I'm saying the inside stuff d But when they were
reflecting back with what she was saying, I was like,
I was like, this.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Is like this really makes like like y'all.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Profitely makes no fucking sense, right, and so no, not
like I want people to ask themselves when they see
the round tables come out right and people are playing
this game. I wanted to think about like the bias
with people people come in with in with right, like
for like like Derenda, bless her soul, Miss Girl is
not a game player, but her bias was on ten Like.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Derenda, you don't know the game, baby girl. You don't
know what.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
You were taking out the first you were teking out
the first episode of the last time, like you, like,
I don't know the game she's playing me not in
the game.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Everone else is playing, and so.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
I'm like, like, she's not going with game plays to
come in with her own bias as from as you
know it, it is what I'm seeing.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
I'm thinking of Phedra when what's his face?

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Was like, oh, like you're too extra, right, And let
me say this creoles to Kate, Kate the white ally
that everyone needed in that show, because she was out
here being like she is extra, what's your fucking point?

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Like I live, I was watching.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
That scene again when when I forgot his name extra,
I know that's what I know.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
That's right, but and like and.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Dana like Fad was like, what, like what did I
do that was so bad for you? And did and
Dan was like oh.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Because you were like because you were because you were talking.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
About Burgie and K and K and Kate was like
her saying burglicious was was problematic for you?

Speaker 1 (50:26):
For like like was for you?

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Right?

Speaker 3 (50:30):
And then he was like, oh, well she like voted
this way, voting for that person who was obviously a trader,
was that was problematic for you? Like I was like,
go ahead, read his ass right, and like you see
it coming in there, right, He's she's too extra?

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Why can't.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I when't be extra as fuck, like why is a
problem right, and like Fai was prepared to eat his
ass up.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
And fature always is what you canna always get fa period.
But I just do a TV and good gameplay I live,
and very very good gameplay. I think it's just I
think that's also a big part of this show is
when when and I don't I the only other way
I can say is when the whites, when the whites
start to notice that their gameplay is not as good

(51:09):
as others. I've noticed there's a trend of them.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Let me pull out my racism guards.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
It's let me, let me go ahead and do the
thing this game because I'll be the first.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
But it's just say you're being racist.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yeah, and I guess it. So let me say that.
Because someone hit me and was like, oh you saw
that the American the America is doing the like basically
regular people get to go be on traders. And I
thought to myself and said, oh that might be really
good for me and my brand because people know me
and people don't what to do. It will be really
good for me to Okay, maybe let's try it. And
then I thought to myself I said, the moment that
I see somebody do something that I know is clearly racist,

(51:46):
I'm gonna be that nigga that calls it out and
they gonna vote me off, and then I'm gonna be
labeled and deemed the the evil, angry black queer person. Nope,
I said, I'm good because that's how it always plays
out right. Anytime you hold any accountable, even in this world.
In this world, that's the reason why we're where we
are because white people weren't that a black person became president.

(52:08):
Anytime you hold people accountable for whether what they do
or what they've done, they immediately move right into that bias, Terrey.
And that's why I said, I'm okay. I said, yeah,
that money sounds good, but I'm okay. I'm good. I
don't need it.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Ilation's still open because I might apply for that because
I can.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Make it good TV.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
I can I can be like, girl, you're racist and
not make a good TV for everybody. Every will eat
the funk up like you're racist. Let me tell you
why you're racist. Girl, Come here, let me come here,
Come here, Let me just come here. Sis have you
have you got to school before? Let me just let
me just give you educational a week. Let me just
like here's my lesson planned. You're racist, baby, you know

(52:50):
you're racist?

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Right yeah? Okay?

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Right, like no, listen, I'm like, I'm like, listen, you
may have ate me up, but that was racist racial
bias with the girl.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Let's all, let's talk about that. Are you mad because
I have.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
No no, no, no, god damn stairs point at somebody being like,
you know that was.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Racist, right.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Girl, I'll be, I'll be, I'll be the people. Wake
it up, y'all. Wait that ship up Traders?

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Okay, well yeah, well yes, if someone's like, Jordan, do
you think I'm racist, well yes, yes very much. So
I love you, but you're racist past the salmon bitch,
Yes you are very anyways.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
So that's my thoughts on that. Now, as John said,
we have two topics they talk about. So anything else
you wants to be on Traders before going forward?

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Okay, So just watch it knowing that you don't if
you are a black or brown person, know you're gonna
watch it with your titties.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
You think about you think you will be yours.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
You love the TV, but you get massu very So
the next thing on the hondy Agena for us is
I want to talk to you about the full page
ad taking it out on the Wall Street Journal this
week by what Lord Kanye West apologizing for his harm
on the Jewish Median in the block community.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
I have.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Thoughts on this, so as you should. One, Okay, I
want it. So what I'm finding it? I'm finding it,
you know, I'm I'm I'm Marin Natean, I'm sitting, I've been,
I'm vacillating stuff like I'm trying to be nice about it.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Fuck this man, yeah, find it like, fuck this man.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
I just I I do not think that there's anything
you could say like about like you just got an
ad in the paper.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Also Wall General girl, who is that? Like?

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Like why that paper? I have questions to apologize guy,
And this is my thing.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Who is read?

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Who is in WSJ? You know what?

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Like no, like okay, okay, like the gay the gag
is I read?

Speaker 3 (55:15):
I read so many stories about that, and none of
them were on w s J. Correct, So like what's
the point? No single not one day for WSJ, y'all.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
But like.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
I take seriously the way people discuss their mental health
behaviors and take seriously, the way it manifestors some people,
and I know many of folks who have bi Bler
one and my Blower two who manage it? Like who who?
Who manage it? This man has all the resources in

(55:44):
the world to manage.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
And so I'm like you actually like you cannot you.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
I'm I feel like there's a scapegoating, uh, like like
of mental health. That's problematic because I'm like, you have
the resources to like manage yourself and have your and
have your you know, like like get on the proper medication,
the right therapy and like now you're fine. Also, now
that you have a new album coming out, you said,

(56:11):
let me get good with people to like like like
I like, I just think it's so it's a problematic. Also,
like prospect, a page ad does not absolve you, girl,
you will apologize.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Pay for everyone's college suition.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
You apologize, go like, like, go pay for some new
JCC do you apologize, Go pay for black education, go
fund BLM work like pay but which check with your dollars? Okay,
that that's all you got from right now. There's nothing
else I want from besides that, Like, there is nothing
you can say that but make me think that you
actually are apologizing about.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Because if you if you're sorry for a girl, you
wouldn't have made that.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
You wouldn't have made your right, you would have made
your woudn't have made your hell Hail Hitler song last year?
Well wake that up. No one's discussing that you have
a song called Hail Hitler. And and then it was
it got banned from every music stoping service ever. And
then he did, he did, he did remake a whole
new song called Hallelujah instead, And is that what song was?

Speaker 1 (57:10):
And is that the one that everybody uses?

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Now? You know, I can't tell you this.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
I don't look to anything about many of that. Man,
I just hear it. I'm sure, I'm sure it is.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
But like I'm like, this man made a little song
in twenty twenty five and beyond his green earth to
make a song called Hail Hitler. And I I want
to get into a few things.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Right.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
People have a critique right now that his.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Apology for the Jewish community is sufficient, and I want
to be really clear and saying one that is that
is up for the juice to decidebody else, and two
not not for this you right here, it's not enough
like like while like being while being a little as
antisemitic sucks, right the baldy is you only said sorry

(57:56):
when it fout convenient, like you, You cannot spend the
past years talking about how you want to kill us
we gonna go dead Coom three, which Hitler was still here.
Hitler inspires your music. He was amused for you. You cannot
say in all these things and then be like, I'm

(58:17):
so sorry for the harmer cause like you, like, while
you were not gunned a head to Jewish people, you
influenced people to hate Jews more yep, you people to
attack Jews off the street more. No, your apology and
who thinks it was sufficient was not. It was not sufficient,
And anyone who is sufficient strongly encourage you to understand

(58:38):
that it wasn't was not sufficient.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
And then for black folks it also was.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
His apology for black folks was also so annoying because
he was like, I'm sorry blah blah blah, and I'm
also sorry for black folks. Do you understand why, like
you were seeing as one of the highest levels of
art form for black art, yeah, and music and rap
like and people, and I would even not to cut

(59:04):
you off. I would even say, people still do I
still I think, yes, he has fallen off. Yeah, but
I still find people who are like, oh miss the
old Kanye, so yeah yeah yeah yeah, but like like you,
like he was lauded for the art that he gave
the community, like just to make like, just to make
matiness look so like, make it look so bad in

(59:27):
a public way, to make it so bad in general,
to blame, like, to blame black folks for our own
misery and our own and our own like like status
in the world right, to say that we want to
be slaves, to like like you, like you can't, like
people saw themselves in Kanye and then like they and

(59:50):
like in a place in a time where we already
had so few black adults people, right, Like how many
black men were like, oh, I can't see myself.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I mean so they're a black men.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Probably who do see themselves and him still And I'm
like why, but how many a boat men like see
We're like, oh I can't, I can't he can't be
like my dude, no more, I can't rock with him
no more. Like like you disappoint that dis the point,
like you hurt people and made them feel like them
being black was actually a problem, right, like so and

(01:00:24):
like as a black Jewish person myself, you harm both
of my people for the sake like for the sake
of what And then and then you wanted to come
and say like, oh, like like none of it was
me when you had.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Every opportunity and resource available.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
To like to like to to make the best decisions,
like it'd be like right, like I'm at rick. I'm
in the middle of reading I'm finishing this a biography
of of marsh B. Johnson, Right, And there's so much
about her undiagnosed mental mental behaviors, right, and that she
was probably she was like nerdivergi and she would have
breakdowns and such, right, and like she had no resources

(01:01:02):
really around her to to like manage it. And yet
she self managed in some in some tough way, right,
Like if she did all that, you could do all
that and then some because you have all the longer
want to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
I'm sorry to be like, fuck you for that, fuck
you for that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Right. I believe there are some things that people can
come back from, but I don't know if I think
but I don't think so for this, like not for him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
No, I think the damage is done. I think the
damage is done. And that's why I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Lord, you are you were ready? This week?

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Joho was like I'm coming out the gate hot, honey. No,
I I will say you. You said everything, You took
everything out of my out of my mouth. I think
at this point there there's gotta be something. So this
is this is the only real thought I have. I
want to know. I would and again I'm not gonna
this will probably never happen, but I would love to
sit down with Lila Wayne. I would love to sit

(01:01:55):
down with Kanye. I would love to sit down with
fifty cent, and I would love to sit down with Nikki,
And I would love to say, what what what did
they say to you beyond the money to make you
feel like and I say they meaning the right. What
what did they say beyond the money to get you

(01:02:19):
to make yourself look that foolish out there like I
don't like for me And it's from so I say this.
The other part of that is I've been thinking about niggas.
Don't love to think that the clown will ever come
back to bite, And now in this case, the clown
is it right? And you're down in the sewer right,

(01:02:40):
so now, like, but there's a part of me that's like,
what makes you think that it is okay for you
to be down there with it right? What makes you
think it's okay to be just playing and the sewers
thinking nothing's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Gonna happen to you?

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
And then to put it back on us that we
have to forgive you for the harmful, terrible things you said. Indeed,
without any repercussions, you've done absolutely nothing to prove that
you're truly sorry. You just said it. I don't know,
I don't know. I'm I'm just I'm really really over

(01:03:14):
and I say this loosely. I'm very over the industry
at this point. I'm very over black people doing and
saying things that they know are harmful and acting like
it's never and we're gonna talk about that in a second.
We're like, it's never going to come back for you,
And it's like sis, like what Nikki like even looking
at Nicki Minaj, I'm looking at min and I'm going like,

(01:03:36):
I want to be disappointed.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
But also part of me is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Like the tracks, it tracks, It's tracks, and I'm not surprised,
but I want I want to know, like I want
to know what, because there's not enough money in the
world to make me look like a clown in front
of somebody like that, my own people specifically, but here
we are, here, we are So anyway, do you want

(01:04:01):
to take the last commercial? I take the last commercial?
I was I was like, okay, she gonna do all
the commercials we got notice, like okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
With that being said, like us, I hope you aren't
forgiven racism or xenophobia or any of those other things
that that man is out there talking and doing. And
so while y'all ponder your thoughts on this, we're gonna
take our last break and we'll come back with your
favorite tegment. Yes, ma'am, ma'am. All right, y'all. So I'm

(01:04:33):
gonna go ahead and just dive right on in. I'm
about to die. What's she won't not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Dive in it. She won't not dive in it. She
won't not dive in it, she won't not dive in it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
But yes, I'm gonna dive right on in to our
yes maam, and I know man Pam. For those of
you who are new here, this is where we ultimately
talk about things that we love, or things that we
can't stand or things that just rub us the wrong way.
Sometimes they're very you know, very political, very driven, very
very smart, and then sometimes are just really stupid as hell,
things that we just truly are just like, I'm over

(01:05:03):
this shit. So but that being said, this week, I'm
gonna get into kind of my intersectional tease. I'm gonna
say that my yes, ma'am is to Karamo with a pause,
because it is not a full yes, ma'am. It is
a dot dot dot yes girl.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Period.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
What I mean by that is that I don't see
it for Karamo because it's frustrating to think that all
of this started now right as she's getting ready to
end her her run with Queer Eye, And I personally
am saying I personally believe that Karamo now knows that
whiteness is not gonna serve her in the right way

(01:05:45):
she deserves. She now finds it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Like it's it's convenient.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
I'll just say that it is very convenient that you're
gonna wait to the very last part of the last
season and then be like, ooh, these girls were mean
to me, okay, but you were very okay with aligning
yourself with them every other season. Okay, girl, I'm just
saying that, right, two things can exist at the same time.

(01:06:13):
So I do appreciate that she's speaking out about the
white dolls. But however, while I can drag her, I won't.
I stand by black people, and I stand by them
speaking up against racism and all the other things.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
So I hope that she has.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
A don Lemon where this will help her recognize that, girl,
you try to align yourself with them, and they othered you,
and now look at you, you got egg on your face.
I hope that this is a an opportunity for her
to wake up and to see that the industry does
this to a lot of black queer people and how
often it doesn't pan out the way that they think

(01:06:54):
it's going to. So I just want to say, I'm
here for the black dolls who stand up to the
mean white gays. That's all I'm gonna say on that. Yeah,
So my no man, Pam. This week, I was going
to go into a whole I'm I'm gonna mention it
because I think it's valid. I'm very much over the

(01:07:19):
digital ordering systems. I don't know if you've been through
a Burger King lately, but they no longer have people
taking your order. It's a computer that's your order when
you drive through. I'm not a fan of it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
It sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Oh so I just kind of want to put that
out there. The other thing I have to say, Chris,
if you can just put in some church music, because
we had someone who passed.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Away here this year and didn't give them their We
didn't give them their due diligence.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
We didn't we didn't say goodbye to them. We really
didn't have any time. They had no time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
It was very swift and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
It was just nothing like they were literally one days,
very hard. I want to mention that I think it
is an absolute travesty as Sprinkles went out of business
the way that she ate it because them cupcakes were

(01:08:22):
bombed and people tried to play in Sprinkle's face, like
them cupcakes weren't good. That frosting sometimes they had crust
on the bottom. Then was some of the best cupcakes
that I had personally, some of the best cupcakes. And
it just makes me very sad that she's no longer around.
So all the people that weren't there, like just that.

(01:08:43):
We also let's talk about that, like yeah, what what
Let's talk about how literally December thirty first they said
we're closing operations come January first, and how people in
a day lost their jobs. So fuck them for that.
But also I'm really upset from my own selfish reasons

(01:09:03):
because now I'm out here with no good cupcakes. There's there.
I have not found a cupcake to replace it. And
I love a cupcake. I love cake, but I love
cupcakes a good one. So I feel sad. It makes
me really sad. What are your yes, ma'am's and no
man pounds for this week? You know?

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
First, I just want to say I love internal politics
because I think like I too am like listen, no
skinful chem folks, but I want but I will not
staying for I'm not saying for the dragging of a
lot of person by white people, like like I would say, listen,
you can't say ship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
They can come on here and we can get them, right.
I love all our traders.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Everyone was like, don't be home to Coldon that's fucking trash.
They got my clout and then and then they're like, okay,
but now then now we we must get Coldon out too, right,
Like they said, don't get him because he's gay, get
him because you want him because he's too aggressive like that,
Like that, that's a ship I love, they said, They said, listen,
like coldon, like we're here for you, will you Homophobia

(01:10:01):
is not tall right here.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
In this house. But you do have to go because
you are. You are a rude player. You aren't terrible.
That ship I fucking love. We live in politics, yes, ma'am. Well, yes,
my yes, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
It's the city of San Diego and the people of it,
not the city. It's up with the people of it.
Because so.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
I love, I love, I love the community of San Diego.
So begin this.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
Year, we had parking meters installed and parking rates to
park and Bubba Park, which since its history has had
free parking for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Okay, and that changes.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
They were charging two fifteen hour, right, it's like fine
dollars for two hours. But then they also changed, and
then they change it to like you had to pay
for like a you can pay for a pass three
hundred dollars per month or like or like for a
year or whatever for to park there for the sake
of like raising revenue. Right, the community was livid, like

(01:10:59):
parking has been free forever.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
In Bubba Park is a cultural center.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
People come there for museums, people come there to relaxed,
like people like love this place because it's accessible.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
It's a public space as accessible people.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
That's downtown area is downtown adjacent, but it is in
the center of the city.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
To think about how do where do what? What? Do
I know that it's in.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Several museums, like all most of the museums are Bubboa Park.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
There's like, is that fucking to you that it's business?

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
No, no, no, you're not.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Bubba Park is like known as a crown Jewels.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Like when I when I when I look closer to it,
I would walk to the park every Sunday, like in
Golia Museum from When You Love from the Other House.
Yeah yeah, so like love love blah blah blah, work
so much. I mean I actually live. I live closer
to it now they did before. But I walks a
bunch too of the whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Now that's sad.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
When the parkings were installed, people started destroying the meters
and I was like, fuck you, the city, We're not
paying this damn ship. Looking to it's now the under
the up he has been so much that the city
council has now, so actually, let let me let me
back up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
What people Then there's like thousands of the comments.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
They decide to instead give a reduced rate for for
residents of the city for their parking, and then higher.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Rate for people who are not residents. Right, how do
you prove that?

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
So you would registered an online portal via like your
zip code, and that would if you were eligible or not.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Right, Like, I know I'm eligible. I live really a
mile from the park. Can you use somebody's fake address?

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Well, it wouldn't know because you have to like also
upload a document that proves that it's you, like a
bill or is a lot a lot?

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
A lot?

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
So yesterday a proposal was put forward by city council
to make it free again for all residents of the city.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
So see it's it's it's a happiest.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Man because city residents, if it goes forward, would get
free parking, which is what we're funding for, right, and
then poss will be a free Sunday parking for anybody.
Now not residents would have to pay. Still part of
me is like, listen, I'm not about that because I'm
a resident. So I'm happy. I'm happy to not pay right,
but if you're not, if you if you live like

(01:13:13):
in the next city.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Over, you are you're paying to go right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
About pay Native city is a is a city that's
adjacent to San Diego, maybe ten minutes from my house.
If that that tment drive means you probably have about
to pay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
It's like so aline portal still and they will scan.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
So now they're gonna have a Scanish license plates essentially
that will that will control.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
The flow traffic.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Now, this also happened because doubt because of the people,
because the museums of Bubbao Park got together and said,
we've actually had a sixty percent less turnout for the
month of January and sixty percent less people come in
to our to our spaces and museums.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Because of this.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
So this lest it's probably because of money. Not right,
but yes, ma'am that we.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Might get free parking once again for citizens of the city.
So that's not we'll go off the girl. My no, ma'am,
ham is.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
The Ice agents who killed Alex Putty were put on
leave and I saw that not enough, like we need
to do more.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
They leave is leave.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
It the least of the worst it should like I
don't leave incarceration, so it should be something else, but like, well,
I won't say what I think it should be personally,
but like.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Yes, but no, I I feel the same way I
think it is. It is very telling when we when
we see someone do something we know is against the
law and then we go, oh, we're investigating it. And
I'm going the same system that that allowed this terrible
thing is now investing investigating.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
The person to investigate. We have the d girl, it's
right there in front of you. Like we saw you, girl,
your titties was that we oh you nipples?

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Like we saw but.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Girl, that's clear ass baby girl, like girl, we saw
we saw the burning bush, honey, like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
And here we puts some clothes on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
You don't walk out your house without your I told you.
But here we are. Here, we are gas lit, the
great gas light of the great gas light. That is
going to be what we titled this episode. I will
be adding that the great gas light, because that's what

(01:15:39):
it's given. Everybody was to tell you, you, girl, look
over there, look over there, the great gas light.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
My god.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
But anyway, with that being said, y'all, we're gonna go
ahead and wrap it up, because if we stay here,
we'll be just more and more depressed about the state
of the world. So since your thoughts, your feedback an
email to Blackfatfempod at gmail dot com. You can also
send us your thoughts via social media and interact with
us on the threads, on the instagrams, on the use

(01:16:09):
of the tubes all of the things honey by using
black Fatfempod, Joho where can that, I'll find you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Every week.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
You know, you can find me at Jojo Danael's across
all socials, my website. Joining dow dot com, you can
connect with me for any speaking engagements or consulting work.
If not there, you will find me on the couch
watching the season of The Boyfriend season two The Boyfriend,
which is a Japanese gateing show, the first familiar show.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Familiar, Yeah, fucking great.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
They are so cute, so fun, and I love the
way that can you get their feelings like wow, raised
better than American men are.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
For sure. Love the show so much.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
I definitely have heard that that show is really good.
It makes me a little apprehensive about Love is Blind
returning because that's going to be back next month. I
was gonna also say the Tyra doc. We're gonna have
to watch that and we're gonna have to break that.
So for those of you who are asking, I know
it's early. I know it's early. We got a couple
of weeks. But we will definitely have covering. We will

(01:17:13):
be covering the Tyra doc. You know who I may
tap for that. I may also see if Francesca wants
to come back to have that complim because that might
be fun considering that she had a whole podcast where
she breaks where she broke that down, like all over
the hell went wrong with that show. So yeah, we'll
reach out to her and we'll see if that'll be
a good conversation. But anyway, as for me and mine,

(01:17:34):
I'm all over social media at doctor John Paul Talk. Sorry,
I'm on social media at doctor John Paul. My online
website presence where you can go and you can also
reach out to me, reach out to see whatever consulting
that I can bring to you your organization, Doctor John
Paul dot com. If you would like to purchase my book,
you can head down to Barnes and Noble, you can

(01:17:57):
go to Amazon and go anywhere where you buy your books.
I also wanted to continue to keep pushing that I
will be It'll be me and a few other individuals.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Jimmy L.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
LaRue will be there February twenty first, we will be
down to the Allegian Theater doing drunk black History. Tickets
are on sale for fifteen dual heads. I will be
talking about Polly Murray in relation to LGBTQ black queer history.
So come on down. It'll be fun. It'll be a time.
If you want to see me on Hulu, watch Who
I Am Meant to Be. It's on ABC where I

(01:18:29):
talk about the magic of the Black Fat fam show.
I'm gonna always promote that because I was so proud
to be able to say something I've worked or I
should say something I was a part of. Something we've
worked on is being louted and being uplifted by someone
like ABC and Hulu. So just was a good film anyway,
But that being said, this has been another show.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Stay black, Fat and fabulous. Then remember what, Jojo. We
may not be a cup of tea girl, but kick
rocks us.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
All we got, suffer, all we got as bash, but
tight as it calling you literally said we ain't got
nothing else I know't that's right?

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
If you don't like tea. Fuck it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Uh they thirsty? By friend choke Okay you joke. Literally
you you could choke man with that thing you said.
We'll see you next week by.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
The Black Fat Fem podcast is executive produced by Joey
Patt and Doctor John Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
All content related to the show is edited by Chris Rogers.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
This has been a podcast by iHeartMedia and Doctor John Paul,
LLC The Black Fat Film Podcasts where all the intersections
of a dandy are celebrated.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Honey, I know that's right.

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