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May 6, 2021 30 mins

When a young white college kid named Patrick meets up with a singing Black cowboy named Panhandle Slim, a whole world is revealed through Slim's intimate "story songs."

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you want me recording from my mind as well? Yeah,
everyone should record locally as well. Patrick works for you, right,
no problem, Okay, that's me and my producer Ryan talking
to a guy named Patrick Turley for the first time.
At the moment, we're attempting to record our interview over
the internet. We wanted to hear Patrick's story and this
was the best way to do it during a pandemic.

(00:22):
Where are you guys in the world. Actually, I'm in
Oakland and I'm in Massachusetts. Patrick is talking to us
from the suburbs of Chicago. He sent me an email
one day while we were in the middle of making
this podcast. One line of his email in particular caught
my eye. Patrick wrote, quote, I wanted to reach out
to you and tell you a story with the hope
that it further connects you with the history you were

(00:42):
trying to share. He described how he had once met
a man who made him quote aware of the history
of black cowboys and how much they shaped the world
I live in today. I just wanted donner him by
sharing all of this with you. Of course, I had
to contact Patrick. I'm a listener of the stuff you
should podcast, Big Josh and Chuck fan. My whole family

(01:03):
listens to it, and I heard mad for your podcast there.
I was just like, I wonder how hard it is
to find these people, because I've got something to share
with them. Patrick's not a cowboy, he's not black, but
his email told such a fascinating story. It's set me
off on a journey, one that we thought worthy to
bring to you in this special episode. This is a home.

(01:23):
It's been a long role for us. We take an
ownership over everything. Also, what's realty? We surprinted by our heritage,
are fisted up because we're proud to be American. I'm
Zaron Burnett. Welcome to Black Cowboys And I heard original podcast.
Hey ask himself? What's really in the name? Sitting on

(01:46):
a Mustang Friday from the Place Buffalo So to the
King of the Rain. We Love with the Cowboys Way
Chapter eight, Pan Andle Slim the Singing Black Cowboy. Patrick
grew up in ral In, Missouri, a small town in
the middle of the state. It's about white. It's a

(02:08):
sort of small town America that people think of when
they talk about the Heartland. Growing up, I didn't know
a ton of black folks. We had maybe two black
families I knew very well. Raw is also the home
of the Missouri University of Science and Technology. Patrick stayed
in his hometown to go to college. He was a
computer science major. I was doing the radio thing just

(02:29):
for fun, and it was kind of the right thing
to do on that campus. It was like the crowd.
I kind of fit with their music nerds and people
who leaned a little more punk rock kind of types.
We did a metal show called Tripped Breaker. I did
a number of them. I don't know, they were all
cookie names. None of it has aged well right for example, Yeah,
Like I thought it was real funny at the time

(02:51):
that I called myself a notorious p A T. I
thought that was just a riot and just not This
must have been around two thousand and six. I don't
even remember in particular year. Probably a junior at the time.
Part of me just wanted to put on a bunch
of rock and roll shows. It was pretty simple life
back then. I just wanted to play things loud, and

(03:12):
I had a bunch of equipment to do that. The
radio station was ROLA Zone eighty nine point seven FM
k m n R. Patrick started helping to produce concerts
and work the soundboard as a producer for recordings of
local musicians. That's when a friend of Patrick's at the station,
a local and the folk scene, told him about someone
Patrick needed to meet. He said, it would be really
helpful if you just meet this friend of mine. His

(03:35):
name's Cecil. I said, sure, I'd love to talk to anybody.
And he's he's got kind of an interesting story. And
that was basically the only brief I've got. Right, I'm
just gonna go into the studio. I don't know what
I'm really getting into. And so when Cecil came in,
I said, high, Ceil, nice to meet you on Patrick
Curley and he said, you can call me Panhale Slim.
I said, okay, I'll do that, Slim. He's very tall,

(03:58):
much taller than me. I would have guessed a solid
six inches taller than me, like you know, six six
five or something like that, six six and I remember
a very big cowboy hat. I think he wore glasses,
and I was guessing he was sort of like in
his seventies at the time. And I said, you know,
tell me about yourself. He said the phrase that he
often says, which is that I do story songs. And

(04:21):
at the time, I'm a punk rock and metal radio DJ,
so I don't know what he's talking about, Like, I
don't even know a little bit what he's what do
he means? So I said, okay, well, maybe you could
play one for me, because he has a guitar with him.
He said sure, and so he breaks out a guitar

(04:44):
and he starts doing this thing that I gotta say, like,
it's not quite folk music, but it's I think that's
probably the closest I have. It's a little bit of
a mix of folk music and somewhat spoken word, and
there's a ruress, dark asard and if what I realized

(05:10):
was the story about something that at the time I
just didn't know about it. I just had no idea
that there was such a thing as black cowboys. I
just didn't. And so he plays a song for me,
and I sat down and I said, man, that's amazing,
that's excellent. But I was like, hey, I think you
have unique information here, and it's very easy to connect to.

(05:33):
He's very warm person too. He's got that kind of
a little grandfatherly figure for me. And I said, I'd
love to help you him do whatever you want to do,
and he said, yeah, I'd like to record these songs
that I have and put them down on an album.
And so I invited him back another day and I
blocked generally off an hour to do a first you know,

(05:54):
recording session with c song just get our feet wet,
just kind of put something down and sat down and
I miked him up, just nothing miking. I just like
put a mic on the guitar, put the mic on
his mouth, and we went in after it. He started
playing Esteban and his hair was like the roll of

(06:18):
s Baby on s Baby. After you played it, I
had stopped and I said, just listen back to that
and we can adjust and kind of see where we
go from here. And we played it seven years a
say on the sevens and I said, okay, you know
it's not perfect, but I think we can adjust the

(06:40):
mics and stuff and do a little bit and post
and and he said, yeah, no, it's perfect. We'll see
the next one. This is the saga of a Young
Cow or a flame grew up a man. We proceed

(07:03):
to do one tracks each in one hit, and he
did a all in a row in one setting. He
hailed from the state of tas It's just like he
was doing it like a private little concert, was what
it felt like. He's like, Ye'll just play all my
songs for you about the West days, right he chose
to be Van Handle. Slim's songs covered the range of

(07:23):
the history of black cowboys from the earliest days. He
has songs about Esteban and one about York the explorer
who traveled with Lewis and Clark. And there's Beckworth about
the Black Mountain Man, the Black Mountain Hutter trapped from
the famous guy. He explored both mountain and deserts, saying

(07:46):
that he was the chief of the crow Panhandle. Slim
also has songs about the Golden age of cowboys, songs
about nat Love Cherokee, Bill Bass, Reeves, Stagecoach, Mary Fields, Buffalo,
the Soldiers, and Bill Pickett. I'll tell your tale of
the Black Cowboy. Hi, he want his fame. Bull and

(08:07):
Organ was his business. Bill Pinket was the name. He's
telling basically almost all the stories that Zaron is trying
to tell on the podcast. Mayory Field mary Field was
a gun told in the cigarette smoking short, Tampered Whiskey Drink,
and Beemale Tiger can at your crofts on lathes and gentlemen.

(08:30):
He really loved the imperfections of the recording, like he'd
mess things up and those are in there. Man, he
didn't want to take that out. He didn't want to
get it like super duper crazy crisp. Because I'm inferring
a little bit here, But I think what he wants
is he wants that feeling of a guy with a
guitar sitting around the campfire singing you a story and

(08:50):
like sharing an oral tradition, and that is imperfect. The
levels aren't always right. He was a scholar around of
teacher ound of crest. This man. The thing I recall
is being struck by basically just the boldness and the

(09:14):
individual uniqueness of these characters. I probably had not long
before watched Tombstone, and so like, I'm imagining that scene
of like the wild West, and you know, you got
the billy of the kid types, whereas like these are
almost characters in the big landscape. What I was struck

(09:35):
by was the depth of individualism in each of the
people he was highlighting. He was born or slave in Arkansas,
or in his nickname going Sable. What it did for
me was it's sort of like in twenty one recordings.
It exposes that there's a lot that you're missing, right Like,

(09:57):
if I have twenty one iconic people that you've never
heard of, it blows you away for how much you've missed.
One of the most famous febree was a bland lonely
day by the Pandelslim tell you at all about how

(10:19):
he came to know these stories that he mentioned, like, oh,
my grandfather told me these stories or anything like that.
I don't recall specifically. He does sort of embody the lifestyle,
so he still wears wranglers and cowboy hat and that
whole thing. He wasn't just a historian about it, right,
He saw as his culture, and so I wouldn't be
surprised if that type of history was in the back

(10:41):
arcis shop him on to him, but a hole through it.
And do you know if he's spent his whole life
in too uh? I think he spent a good portion
of his time in Oklahoma City and just outside of Rallah.
But I don't know a ton of his history, right, Like,
he spends his timetelling these other stories race and not
necessarily his own, because he's a storyteller of other histories

(11:05):
and maybe it's our job to fold in cecil story
into the mix legend of his time there is. So
you finished the recording and you hand him a CD

(11:27):
with it on there and say, here you go. It's
not too dramatically far from that. He wanted to credit
me in some way, and I remember feeling very strange
about that, like, you didn't need to do anything for me,
like this is your work. I gave you, like a
three or four hours on a Saturday or something like that.
So anytime he printed the album, which he basically burned
a bunch of CDs at home or his kids probably did,

(11:49):
and he made sure my name was on the little
booklet that he put in there, and I was struck
by the amount of just honesty. And he just wanted
to make sure that I knew that I was a
part of this, even though this is clearly his material
and I didn't write a bit of it. We did that,
and then I saw Cecil maybe once or twice after that.
I mean, I just I didn't see the guy a lot,
but I reached out to you guys, because this is

(12:12):
a fundamental thing for me, right, Like it's a big
moment where I'm exposed to culture that I didn't know about.
He did it in a way that was not particularly
selfish or like ego driven or anything like that. He
presented this stuff to me in a way that was
very easy for me to consume, in a very innocent
and honest way. It's just fantastic, right, Like, it's just
it's just a thing that was part of shaping my

(12:34):
perspective on the world going forward. I love to tell
people about him. Cecil's impact on Patrick was powerful. This
much was obvious, but there's also an unspoken aspect of
this story, something that's also obviously coloring his impressions. Here's
my producer, Ryan, I'm curious what you said a minute
ago about learning about this thing. You had no idea
even existed in this part of culture, this part of

(12:55):
American culture, And I just curious, as a white person,
did that change here understanding of how we tell history,
or your understanding of whiteness, your understanding of blackness. Yeah,
quite a bit. This is an intersectional thing. When I
was a junior in college and in my senior year,
the year just before I left this town, which was

(13:15):
my hometown I grew up there, I'm about to sort
of like take a big step out in the world.
I also was driving to see my girlfriend, driving a
couple of towns over, and I drove by a burning
cross in the yard. So within a period of year
here right like, these are two moments that are shaping me.
You've got the warmth of this man sharing this awesome,

(13:39):
wholesome culture, and this striking difference of me just recognizing
that the clue Klux plan and all this hate is
also happening right here and in the same space, and
like the very very close proximity. And it was just
a moment which I was like, how should I see
the rest of the content that I'm about to be

(14:00):
dramatically exposed to as I sort of leave home and really,
you know why, my lens of the world, what does
this mean to be a white American? And how do
I see race in our country? And how can I
process my own privilege through all that lens? Like these
moments they're brief, right, Like, this intersection with Cecil is

(14:21):
literally like two days of my life, but it's vivid,
right so and storable fiction in fact days and most
we get some of the black on the tru I
immediately wondered if we could get ahold of Cecil. Patrick
had lost touch with the friend who had connected them
fifteen years ago, and he hadn't spent much time in

(14:43):
Rawles since graduating college, and even back then, Slim wasn't
exactly easy to find. He's an interesting character because he
really cares about this particular topic that we're talking about.
And so you see, like he's done recordings and he
does interviews and stuff like that, and then as far
as I can tell, the entire rest of his life,
he is out in his land and he's kind of
on his own and he's quite happy with that. You know.

(15:05):
He just he has this message that he wants to
get out and if he's not doing that, he doesn't
really want to be around a ton of people. That's
the most Black cowboy thing ever, you know what, right
like it seems like it fits. It's more than just
telling the stories. It's a culture and a lifestyle that
he's passionate about. We did have a copy of Slim's
business card though, so this was his business card. The

(15:26):
funny thing is his actual name, Cecil Williams, is in
relatively small print at the bottom left, but the big
top It says, you know, king of country soul, black country,
Western singer, guitarist, composer, historian and writer middle it's kind
of you know, of course, a nice picture of the
American flag and says panhandle, slim, have guitar, will travel.
I love all that because this dude did bleed the red,

(15:48):
white blue. He was very, very proud to be an
American when America was young. And I'm I'm struggling to
be free. I really do think if you can figure
out a way to get to him and that he's alive.
So I'm not sure about that either. You say what
you're trying to do, he's going to jump on it.
Like I'm certain of that much. I feel free to

(16:11):
say like it certainly feels like you made a big
impact on at least one person, because I don't know
that he knows that. You know, you never get those
moments to tell people that what they did was really
meaningful to you. They were the he of the Hey

(16:34):
happy to Mecca true, they happy to shape this country.
Oh one we love so oil Welcome. He's arriving wireless,

(16:56):
Remember you Donald has been changed? Disconnected or isn't a lot?
I tried calling the number on Panandal Slim's business card.
I tried his hotmail email too, nothing. I did find
his defunct website, which looked like it was last updated
in the bush years. He also has no SoundCloud and
no Facebook, no Twitter, no social media whatsoever. Let's just

(17:17):
say this particular eighty something year old black man doesn't
leave much of an online trail. There was a Facebook
post from an account city of Rolla, Missouri City Hall
from two thousand twelve about a performance of his. I
also found a post from the George Washington Carver National
Monument from but the post referred to him in past tense.
There were a few local news stories about Panandal Slim

(17:39):
over the years. The story said Williams worked at the
U S Geological Survey Agency and that he'd moved to
northern California and performed for school kids, not far from
where I grew up. One story mentioned a wife and
three daughters. Perhaps one of them would be easier to find,
but no names were mentioned. I checked all the obituaries
in North America for the last ten years from men

(18:00):
named Cecil Williams. There are a lot of Cecil Williams
in America who died in the last decade, like a lot,
but none of them were him. When he didn't show
up in the o bits, I checked all the phone
listings for the neighboring states of Missouri, Arkansas, Kansas, Texas,
and finally they're in former Indian territory a k Oklahoma.
I found a phone number. Yes, who speaking Hello, My

(18:29):
name is Zaren Burnett. I'm calling from my Heart radio
from your calling him from where. I have a podcast
called Black Cowboys from I Heart Radio, and I'm doing
a project about black cowboys. And I heard Cecil Williams
music and I wanted to talk to him about his
songs about black cowboys outside a little Okay, thank you
so much. Hold on, finally we found him a Black

(18:55):
Cowboys Okay serious? Hello rais because hello and see so
my name is Zarin Burnett. I am a podcast host.
MIGHT have a show called Black Cowboys and it is
about stories of the black cowboys of the Great Western past.
And I wanted to see if I could talk with
you about your songs and about your past and about
being a singing black cowboy. Would you be interested in

(19:17):
doing that? Oh? Sure, you bet you panel slim sounded
every inch of the black cowboy I imagined him to be.
He was both friendly and open inviting to strangers, but
also a little bit reluctant until he knew what he
was getting into. He reminded me of some of the
older men in my family, my father's uncle's men, who
didn't rush into things. It's a vibe I recognize the

(19:38):
panandal slim. Do you think of yourself as a singing cowboy? Oh? Yeah,
I have never had a singing lessons. I hear songs
to hear tunes, and I like the tunes, so I
started working on them. But I've never had a singing listen.
But there I'm live. And did you teach yourself how
to play guitar? Yeah? I play a guitar. Did you
teach yourself? Yeah? Another thing? I had a war hoop

(20:01):
to go to flee mark and buying the guitar, and
he got one for ten dollars, damn thing of the
war and I couldn't keep the tune. So the last
if you're gonna pay guitar on a bud damn gnatar,
you can pick throw without old boards. Told guitar I
had to pay hundles off that day. I'm saying, but
I'm still using it. I wanted to know where the

(20:22):
stories in Pananda Slims story songs come from. Were the
stories the foundation upon which he built his songs and
who helped him to build that foundation of stories? Was
it family? I would love to know about how you
first learned the stories of the black cowboys. From what
I've read, it was your grandfather who first told you
about black cowboys stories. My grandfather and he used to

(20:42):
share cropp across them from the end of the reservation,
so we learned many different ways, braves not we went
to all black school in those days. Now we o
black school, but always started United States history, Oklahoma history,
and I had black says. He told us about our
black counterparts, which was too the black people. So we

(21:07):
learned about the five Civilized tribe. We learned about the
Great March when they left the South and Campy ending territory,
so we had a pretty good idea about what the
blacks did. We know the legend of roman Hood and
the bandits of Sherwood Forest. I am the name of
Jesse James and applied the pretty boy flowing Arabic gaines

(21:29):
of a defensive I'll share with you a few that
calls indeed but just as noble, but another point of view.
I wanted to understand how these cowboys stories of the
Black West had turned into Panhandle Slim songs and really
had turned into Slim's life work. It turns out Slim's
wife had a big hand in helping Cecil write and

(21:51):
share the stories. It was both their life's work. I
graduated his wife graduated from Les University, and so we
don't had the background of what the blacks had done.
She was teaching school and I was working for the
U s G. S U the U s G A
lined for surveys. I'd go to the school and my
spare time and tell the kids about the songs you

(22:14):
talked about. We added on to that that I was
doing there was in California. In my spare time, I
would add more show it. Pretty soon we got the
twenty five songs. And how did the children respond to
the stories of the black cowboys of the Old West. Well,
they were amazed, so they didn't know. But how did
they not know about Well, they didn't know about them.
They were not talking scool. But my wife and to Californias,

(22:36):
he taught her to integrate to school. He found out
right then that the songs I was writing and we
were performing at todd righting of what we were taught
back in nineteen four to nine. And so all we
had to do is just keep singing and writing and
performing and working. And just how we got these songs
lined up really great that you took what you learned

(22:58):
and then said we're going to keep passing on this
as black teachers to these students. That was like a
great tradition to maintain, Santiago. This is the same sort
of tradition I'm trying to uphold with this podcast. But
of course these stories came from my pop. I never
learned them in school. That doesn't really happen in America.

(23:21):
The integration of public schools was important on a cultural level.
It's signaled that all American children are equal. But on
the practical level, it meant that black children didn't necessarily
have black school teachers anymore, which has Slim points out,
meant they no longer received lessons in black history and
culture that they would have otherwise learned. Instead, they were

(23:42):
taught stories from a history that centered white people and
their worldview, given lessons in a history that not only
shoved black stories to the side, but often erased them completely.
What I want to say that when we got to
California in the blacks and California is not known what
we had done as far as people of color. The

(24:03):
why diff pointed out to the kids. Now we were
not observations, but she said, if you will tell the
kids and the adults we work were We were part
of overall pitch. In other words, we did things to
watch the thing, and we worked as a team. Any
work was both impart to us in those days. Till

(24:24):
this day, we still feel the same worry. In your
story songs you capture exactly that spirit. Like, for instance,
your song not Love, one of the lyrics is when
the last song has been sung and the very last
story has been told, there's just one more story. I
feel that my friends ought to know. I love that idea,
when the last song has been the song and the

(24:47):
very last story has been told as just one more
little story, I feel that my friends all do you
see and fee know that that is essentially your message
is like I'm going to make sure that my friends
need and ought to know these stories, and I'm gonna
do my best to pass them on. We kind of

(25:08):
enlightened the people as we went along. That's how we
to list Day portrayed ever sording those stories, I'm not
trying my best to give them close to the real
my cars. I could, but as Ruth parted out, if
we can get the other part of the nation, I
understand that we were working as a team. Now, did

(25:28):
you and Ruth work on the songs and the lyrics together?
She said, Now this phrase right here, it's okay, but
we can do better, so I'd rewrite it. Okay, So
just use like kind of an editor for you. Are
you she's rough? How did you get the nickname panhandle? Slim? Well?

(25:52):
Our old boy as a room and back in lens
in Oklahoma. I'll make this short for you. He looked
at a year but I said, bought the other girl
right there? He said, yeah, he said, I know. Her
said look at here. I said, if she comes to Lanston,
you introduced me to her with my girlfriend. I said,
to use them as it should, because good to see you. Look.

(26:13):
So when she came to Listing, I was introduced, but
she didn't handle big instance in her country board that.
It's the bottom line, how hung in that for four years.
No shocking in those days. Pontesty said getting married me
should have been married her for how long? How many years?
Maybe six to five years? Congratulations? Still, how did she

(26:37):
give you the nickname panhandle Slim? Yeah? And there what happened.
We have a roommates and I had a pat Jens,
and we've been holding it and had pan hells that
they have a type Jene, you're just regular gene Hell.
He called me pant hell and other people had to
slimp so I let alone pan Slim good enough for me.
It's a great nickname story. He's true. So now must

(26:59):
be told. This is how it happened. Many many you
do you remember, like you're around two thousand and six,
about fifteen years ago, you recorded all twenty one songs
at the University of Missouri at Rala, and there was
a young kid named Patrick Turley. He's a white kid.
He would have recorded you, just you and the guitar

(27:19):
and sitting there and you've played for him all twenty
one songs. Do you remember this? I remember that I
remember there were a Turty because I went to the
studio and I hope I don't know John Kraft was
located and how do remember him here? He was really
impressed with how you sat down and just told him
about the world. He'd never known about Black kids. Ain't
el we've We've just chit chatting, talking stuff he didn't

(27:40):
know about. Share with him, because everybody has experiences, some
they know about, some you don't know about. And so
that's how the recording to kind of on floor demands
the patron War ind In the eight before our phone

(28:01):
call ended, Cecil told us about the time when the
Singing Black Cowboy flew over to Africa to perform his
story songs about the Black West before an audience in Lagos, Nigeria.
It was part of a cultural exchange program that brought
American artists Africa. Since fifteen other people Lagos, Nigeria, and
I was only getting top pick in the boards I
had all kind of purchased that worked my favoritee calls.

(28:24):
They had never seen a cowboy head on in cowboy
boots in the Texas. I had nold Texan boards. I'm
an Oki, but my God, just what to do? I
praised for the law of the Nigerian's David, the horseman
of that part of the country. Looked at the map,
and I've met a lot of people that I would otherwise.
That moment for him in Africa, when he was exposing

(28:45):
people to music and stories they'd never heard before, showing
them a way of life they'd never seen before. It
mirrored the same moment that Patrick experienced back in Little Rolla, Missouri,
in the basement of the university down in the college
radio station, as he recorded pan Endell Slim that one
small moment shared between two men, a connection made in
the shape of some cowboys songs. As Patrick tells us,

(29:08):
that quote was part of shaping my perspective on the
world going forward, and I love to tell people about it.
That's exactly how Panhandle Slim feels about his story songs,
and it's how I feel about sharing these stories of
Black cowboys with you. Hopefully we can all help shape
each other's perspectives, which will help us all going forward.
Sometimes real and lasting change can start with something as

(29:31):
simple as a song or as stories. Thanks for listening
at the right through out the South looking for a
home exceed us, a side bustled people of the land,
father's mother's sister's brother. John ed Ry Black Cowboys is
written by me Zaren Burnett, produced and edited by Ryan

(29:52):
Murdoch and Michelle Lance. This episode was edited by Metra Bunshahy.
Our theme song is written and performed by Demeanor. Mixing
by Jeremy Thal, Show logo by Lucy Quentina. Executive producers
are Jason English and man Guesh A Ticketer. Special thanks
to Patrick Turley and Panhandle Slim for sharing their stories,

(30:13):
and special thanks as always to my plot, what about
that forty acres on the day you set me free?
And what about that that young me? I'm glad you'd
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