May 13, 2025 • 38 mins
BIN News anchor Mike Moore reviews some of the major new stories from the past weekend
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here at the Black Information Network, we know how important
it is for you to start your week off energized, engaged,
and enlightened. There are always major stories that break over
the weekend, and we feel you should know about the
ones we are talking about today, So stay tuned for
our weekend recap featuring Vin News anchor Mike Moore. This
is the Black Information Network Daily Podcast. I am ramses
(00:20):
Jah and I am q Ward. All right, mister Mike Moore,
welcome back to the show. How have you been, sir?
It's been a while.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Wonderful, wonderful gentlemen. Have you been?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I've been good man. How about you?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I've been fantastic. Thanks for asking, man.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, man, are we are in good sperivice? No problem?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
All right, Well let's get to the news. First off,
this from People Magazine. The CFO of Give a sin
Go is defending his company after a woman accused of
using a racial slur against a five year old at
a Minnesota playground went on to raise over seven hundred
and fifty thousand dollars for herself through donations on the platform.
In an interview with News Nation, CFO Jacob Wells defended
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Shiloh Hendrix, who was captured in a video appearing to
call it young child the N word after accusing him
of trying to steal from her son, and has since
raised over seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars in funds
to protect her family. Wells accused people of piling onto
Hendrix after seeing the viral video, which was filmed on
a playground in Rochester, Minnesota, on April twenty eighth. According
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to NBC News, the CFO said the public has adopted
a mob mentality which has ruined so many people's lives.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
The little boy was rummaging through her belongings, so it's
not like she just stepped into the situation unprovoked and
called the young boy a term, Wells claimed, before adding
that he doesn't condone calling people racial epitaphs and bad
names at all. While he told News Nation he was
bothered by the video, he continued to defend Hendricks. Quote,
Shiloh is going through a dark moment just as much
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as this other family is, and we want to be
a light in all of these moments.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well said.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Goes on to say, I believe in freedom of speech,
freedom of association. When you start going down the road
of cancelation and cancel culture. It actually brings the very
things that we say that we're against.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So a lot of process here.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I know people were kind of going after the fundraising
site because they didn't feel it was right for her
to raise money off of hatred. But you know, this
is what the CFO is saying. So you know, talk
to us a bit, Mike, give us your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
What seems like, you know, put your money where your
mouth is. You know, if you really think about that's
a lot of money, three quarters of a million dollars,
you must feel very very strongly about it. And it
begs to the issue of racial slurs have been hurled
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since Lord knows when started to take out anyway, Lord
knows when Okay, when you aim and target it at
a child? Though, have you not stooped to a new law.
Do you think where does it go from from there? Disabled?
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Where does it go from there? Those who are totally defenseless.
There's there's there's no way that you would be behind
this at all. And I under understand if you think
about it, it looks it seems to I don't know
this for a fact. So because we're talking about this
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now you can put together pieces from a publicist and
you can almost read it verbatim and see how it reads,
and and you and you know how it's been vetted,
and you know what what words trigger what, and to
keep yourself in the clear, so to speak and protect yourself.
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I read, I read all through this. Though we do
not defend this. You are, yeah, you are, you're raising money,
you're you're and you're raising a slew up. And while
you don't wish to harm anyone in this way, and
everyone has their own voice, this is how you see things.
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It's disturbing, quite frankly.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Cute.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I think it's important to remind our audience the child
in this story is five years old. Because her defense
continues to be, well, this person did this thing, so
what do you guys expect from me? They were rummaging
through my stuff or they whatever the case, When you
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remind yourself that the person she's talking about is five,
and then you think about the logic, reasoning, and decision
making of a five year old kind of not yet
being at a point where they could even be criminal
in nature. A five year old going through a bag
at a playground or a park.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Looking for orange slices, maybe looking for orange slices or
toy or whatever, right, and her being an adult woman
attacking this child and slurring, using that slur, that specific,
very very pointed slur, and then becoming some type of
sympathetic character or might I even say hero of some
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sort to a portion of our country that has.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
That has, if nothing else, shown up for each other
in a very very united way over the past few years.
The more racist, the more blatantly racist and hateful you are,
be at Kyle Rittenhouse, be it the young man who
killed the young man on the subway. If you can
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show up and make it clear that you're racist and
that your intentions and the decisions you make are based
on hate for someone, you can become rich in this
country very easily. And this woman became a part of
pop culture for being a very outwardly hateful person. She
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flipped that to victimhood and will be a millionaire in
short order only in America.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You know, there's there's really not much that I could
add to this, because this is just a sad story
all the way around. But the one thing that I,
you know, I would add is that that inward, you know,
when a person is upset, they might cuss, they might yell,
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they might raise their voice, you know whatever. For this lady,
she saw a child going through her bag, and she
could have said, you know, any number of things, Hey,
get out of my bag, you're being foolish, you're stealing
from me, you're a thief, anything like that. But because
of the in words history, it's typically only a and
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used to describe black people. In other words, she wouldn't
have said that word if it was a white child
going through her back, you know, she would, you know,
wouldn't have occurred to her. So what you have is
a very specific word intended to degrade a very specific individual.
And that is the type of racism that people are
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most comfortable digesting. Like if you say the N word,
then you're a racist. That's why a lot of white
folks be like, hey, I don't say the INN word,
so I'm not racist. And you know, racism can take
on many forms, but that's the one everyone for the
most part agree is is racism right? And if someone
could convince me that she would have said the same
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word to a white child, And then you know this guy,
this cfo's take on free speech and all that sort
of stuff would land. But nobody could convince me that
she would have used that same word if it was
a whitechl out what she saw as a child rummaging
through her belongings. As children do, they get into stuff,
trust me, I know. And she thought, well, this child
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is black, so I can get this one word off
that is only used against Black people.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's based on their race, the race of all black
culture culture, right.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Right, And this word only only works to put down
this this group of people. So I'm going to use
this word in this moment. And you know the q's point,
she's you know, raising money off of it. And it
sounds like the CFO of the company is defending her
on News Nation, which doesn't surprise me one bit. And
so again, Q, your point is well made that this
this sort of racism is well insulated.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And I shore something that very quickly. I just thought
we'll talk about something. I have no theology scholar by
any stretch of the imagination. I just remember, you know,
being told as a as a younger man social a
man speak at socially.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Exactly, there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So if we're looking at give sin Go as a
platform to support I say if you're black or you
stand with black people, that's not really the wave anymore
because that clearly, based on the cfo's language, is a
haven for white supremacy. And indeed he is echoing a
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lot of the talking points on a far right news channel.
So you know, give sen go. We don't need to
do business, not even a cancel thing. It's like, all right,
that's how you feel, and you do you, We'll do
us and that'll be enough, all right. Next up this
from the British Broadcasting Company. A judge declared a mistrial
after the jury was unable to reach a verdict in
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the murder trial of a Michigan police officer who fatally
shot a black man during a traffic stop. Christopher Sure
was charged with second degree murder for the killing of
twenty six year old Patrick Lioya in Grand Rapids, Michigan,
on April fourth, twenty twenty two. The killing of mister
Leoyah Congolese immigrants sparked widespread protest and put the question
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of racial injustice and polishing in the spotlight. The mistrial
is a partial victory for mister shr who could still
face another trial. The April fourth incident was caught in
graphic detail and from multiple angles on a police body
cam and dashboard camera, and eyewitness his phone and a
doorbell security system from a nearby home. Footage shows mister
Lioya fleeing from mister Shur on foot following a traffic stop.
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The two men scuffle over mister Shur's taser before he
shoots mister Lioya, who was face down on the ground.
A scuffle over the taser was central to mister Sure's defense,
who testified that he was in great fear because a
taser can cause quote excruciating pain and injury. Goes on
to say, quote I believe that if I hadn't done
it at the time, I wasn't going to go home,
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mister Shure said of shooting mister Lioya. So miss trial,
that's a loss for the family. The family really wanted
justice here. But uh, I mean really nothing surprises me anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
How about you, Mike, You know something I'm whenever I'm
asked you know, are you are you a bit surprised
by this? I usually come up with the same answer.
I'm never surprised. I'm just disappointed.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
There you go. I'd go with that, and.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I kind of understand the mentality of the police, having
done many stories on police officers, and also of the
of their training, by which I'm truly truly believed there
could never ever be enough training when it comes to
law enforcement. And if you ever go on one of
those exercises and I and I suggest that you do
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one day, not not to change your mind, just to
give you a different perspective. If you go through one
of those those camps that they go through and when
they put you in different situations and hostage situations and
situations where there's an active shooter, and you'd be surprised
at what they shoot at and what they do and
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what they feel and they have an idea of what's
coming at them, not to totality, but their reflexes and
things that they do sometimes are far different than what
they would do if they had better training and if
their mindset was different. Now, with that being said, we
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were not there. I don't know what that fear level
and that adrenaline surge was going on at the time
of that incident, but it seems like that situation could
have been better handled. That African American man, that black man,
that Conglese man did not have to die face down
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on the ground.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
That's cowardly, that's my take on it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
That's cowardly.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
You know, there's a reason why I always push back
when we're having these conversations and the word fear comes out.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
He pushed back on me.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, I get it, because it's not that I wish
this would happen to people that weren't black. It's just
that we have so few instances of it happening to
people that are not black. And Mike said it best,
you're kind of always afraid in real time when it's
time to draw guns and you're in a situation where
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you are fighting for defending yourself and trying to make
it home to your family. I'd assume that fear happens
every time. So how come the only time that the
person on the other side of your fear has to
die is when they look like me. It's not I
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wish other people had to experience it. I'm just pointing
out that they don't. We do not have a bunch
of these stories and a bunch of these examples where
the violent, aggressive, angry white man or woman fighting for
their lives, trying to get away, trying to stay safe,
themselves maybe are killed shot in the back while laying
down or running away. That's how I know they don't happen,
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because if they had counterexamples, trust me, they would show
them to us all the time, just to prove to
us that they're not racist and that we're wrong. I
see what you So, yeah, this story plays out like
the story always plays out. And then even when charges
are brought, because sometimes there's no charges brought up, nothing
to see here. We reviewed all the film that you
guys watched where they killed the person like you saw,
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and there's nothing to see here. We're not even going
to press charges. But oftentimes the charges are pressed, and
even when we found guilty, sentencings is very very light,
very disproportionate to what it would be if it was
your eye. Outcomes like this have become very very normal.
So again, no, not shot, not surprised. Disappointed isn't the
right emotion for me either. It's just a heightened compounded
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frustration and and a counter fear. So then on a
routine traffic stop, instead of just reaching and getting my
registration and my insurance and just wait, I'm terrifying that
I might not see my kids again. Because the officer
didn't see the blinker that I absolutely use when I
got over.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Well, I think that this story, and in my view,
it points and it always has ever since we first
talked about it on Civic Cipher, points to systemic UH shortcomings.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
In so far as policing is concerned. The argument was that.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
He was going for the taser, right, mister Leoya was
going for the taser. And you know, what we've seen
often is that when people reach for a taser or
reach for a gun, it's because they're trying to stop
the police officer from pulling out the taser or the
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gun because they know what it means. Right, You're gonna
pull that out and hurt me, So I'm going to
try to stop you from pulling it out, meaning I
have to reach in the same general direction, probably trying
to grab your arm or trying to grab the taser
from you, and I'm not gonna grab it and then
turn it around and then figure out in that moment
how it works, and then deploy it and then stand
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over your body as you shake violently because you're being electrocuted.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
That's not what I'm thinking. I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I don't want to get tasted. So let me stop
myself from getting tased because this individual in front of
me intends to harm me. Right, It's a limbic response, right,
Every creature with a nervous system has that response. Fight
or flight is the reaction, okay, So police get to
use that to justify their actions. He reached for my
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taser right in this example specifically, now watch this. The
taser is supposed to be non lethal, okay, And if
this individual reaches for a taser, the police carry the
taser because it's a non lethal option. They carry a
taser and a gun.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
If you're going to kill people, you know, then that's
the world we're living right now. If you're gonna bring
a taser, you probably don't need a gun man, that's
the point. So you don't have to kill people, right,
But you know, that's a whole different conversation.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
But to.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Carry the taser around as though it's a non lethal option,
and then in the trial, after you've killed him, because
you shot him when he was face down, in the trial,
suggest that you feared for your life because he reached
for the taser earlier, it flies in the face of
the justification for having the taser in the first place.
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It's supposed to be the non lee option. And again,
this guy's face down on the ground and you know
he's executed now, so he doesn't get to even tell
his side of this. He didn't get to say, hey, look,
I was afraid I was trying to reach so that
he wouldn't tase me. Because clearly the officer understands that hurts.
I don't want to be hurt. He probably you know,
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I don't know his story because he's dead. But I
I've done nothing wrong. Why am I being hurt? Why
is this person gets to just hurt me because they've
chosen a version of reality where I'm wrong and they
don't have to listen. It doesn't matter if if they're
wrong or not. They've they've decided that I'm wrong, and
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they get to hurt me. And again, my nervous system
will compel me to escape or to try to lessen
the impact of this inevitable confrontations.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Hurt.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
My ears just perked up with what words you said
and all that you said, and it's so aptly and
well said. He said he was executed, Oh yeah, based yeah,
his life, And that's the part I don't think I
think people like I think we're like living in a movie.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
No, these are people that had stuff to do the
next day. These are people that had friends, These are
people that were part of a community. They had goals,
they had dreams, And I think that a lot of times,
a lot of people that hear these stories and they
just kind of sweep them under the rug or like
that CEO from the previous story. You know, when they're
black people or other marginalized people, there's this association.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
With us being like.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Not contributing, not valuable, not you know whatever. And they
see the Lebrons and the whoever else is and they
get they get their free passes. But anyone who doesn't
have a big name, who they don't directly benefit from
their existence, they're just background, noise and disposable. But no,
that is an execution of a human being who had
they in theory, were entitled to liberty and the pursuit
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of happiness, and perhaps had dreams and goals and were
on the path to pursuing it. And their story ended
face down in somebody's yard. They didn't die as an
old man, surrounded by their families saying prayers for them. Nope,
executed like an animal in a field, and perhaps, at
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least perhaps according to him, didn't even do anything wrong.
Imagine just driving home and then the police decide that
you did something. Maybe you didn't even do it, maybe
you didn't have no idea what they're talking about, and
because of that interaction, your life ends on a sidewalk.
You were just going about your business.
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Today's guest on your weekend Recap is Bin News anchor
Mike Moore. All right, next up from The New York Post,
when asked about why Kanye West has changed so much,
John Legend responded, quote, I don't think we're qualified to
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psychoanalyze him. The e Got winner admitted that he didn't
see a hint of west Current obsessions with anti Semitism,
anti blackness, or anything else, adding that it's sad to
see his devolution. He goes on to say, but after
his mother passed in two thousand and seven, there was
definitely a difference. His dissent started then and seems to
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have excelled rated recently. West's mom, Donda West, died of
heart attack at age fifty eight in two thousand and seven,
one day after she had several cosmetic surgery procedures, including liposuction,
a tummy tuck, and breast reduction. Back in twenty twenty two,
Legend said the musicians couldn't sustain their friendship because of
West's vocal support for Donald Trump. Quote he was upset
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that I didn't support his run for presidency of the
United States of America for understandable reasons, Legend explained on
the Axe Files podcast. He goes on to say, I
wasn't alone in that, but you know, he was not
happy about that, and we really haven't been close since then.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
And twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Legend noted in an interview with The Sunday Times that
he and West were in different places in their lives.
So this is just someone who at least once upon
a time was close to Kanye West, weighing in on
his devolution.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
As he states, so you know your thoughts here.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I'm not qualified to psychoanalyze. You know your friend Mike,
that was a good one. I come up with them
every now and again. But common sense will tell you
that someone is going through something, and everyone goes through something,
they go through it through different degrees. You Q and myself,
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we go we go through things. How we handle things,
that's another story. Now put someone who it would be
hard to it would be very very hard to argue this.
He's done near genius in his element, okay, but with
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that comes turmoil. Sure, sometimes you wrestle with things that
you're not equipped to handle. And who's to say that
that mister West didn't need some sort of intervention. And
again I'd like to qualify and say I cannot psychoanalyze.
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But again, we are all human, and it's very easy
to say something about someone when you don't walk that path,
when you don't feel those inner deeming demons. And I'm
going to bring up something very very personal, and I
don't mind by the way it served. You have a
way of doing that. Once dated a young woman and
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I didn't realize that she was clinically depressed. And I
would come home sometimes and I would look for and
she wouldn't be home. And then one time when I
found her in the closet with the door shut and
completely dark and looking towards the ground, I'm I'm sorry,
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that's a sign. So I've learned to kind of be
better equipped to realize that there are things that people
go through, and she was, she was diagnosed with clinical depression,
but there were other things that she would do and
I won't go into that, that were destructive behaviors that
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were not quite as vocal as what mister West has
done and prolifically. He has said some things in the
in the financial space to quite frankly, make a whole
lot of sense. He's very introspective in some areas. However,
the anti semitic, the anti semitic, anti semitic verbiage that
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that he displayed, no one should have to go through that.
I mean, every culture has gone through something and certain
the Jewish people have gone through horrors as well as
Black people, and you know, to different degrees, and us
being blacks, you know, inherently we feel really different about
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those horrors. But I think that just sometimes people need
help and you don't need to alienate them. And he's
also in an entertainment space. If you think about it once,
once someone doesn't align with your purpose, your travels, your
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end game, they walk away anyway unless they're that, unless
that that they're that that ride or die, that person
that you know you can't say just anything to and
then don't you know, kiss your honey, you know what
I mean? Sure, so I have I have some some
empathy for him. I just think that there there's some
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people that need to be around him and can not
be your yes man and kind of look at that
path that you're traveling and and and be a beacon
and be a help. I could be completely wrong, but
that's my feeling.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Okay, well, that feels very you have. You have a
long runway there, and that's that's a special thing. So
now before you jump in, Q, I want to just
check in just to see if this is something you
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even want to discuss.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Okay, I kind of.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Got an idea of what you're going to say, because
this is a conversation that we have, not just on
the mics, but this is stuff, This is a part
of our actual life. But I, uh, oh, don't let
me ruin it for you.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I don't think Kanye West has any friends, okay. And
I don't mean I don't think that there are people
in his life that care about him. I just think
from his purview, you agree with or enable everything I'm doing,
or you're not my friend. So those who are real
friends that try to stand in for him, that try
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to stop him from being destructive and self destrus, if
he deems them not friends, you have to enable me
to do whatever harm I want to do to anyone,
including myself, or you're not my friend. And I think
John Legend is one of many people that, for those
similar reasons, have been dismissed by him. I also don't
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think any of us need to be medical professionals to
just see right, Like if someone crashed in through the
door of the studio right now with a gunshot wound.
I'm not a surgeon or a doctor, but I can
see that you're bleeding and that something's wrong. Maybe I
can't diagnose clinically, you know what the results of that
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wound are. I can't fix you, but I can see
I don't have to be a professional to point out
that something's wrong. And I don't know, man, you've both
kind of said it, this idea that I'm going to
run for president, and if you're not supporting me in that,
then you're not my friend and we can't speak anymore.
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And you know, when I've clearly aligned myself with someone
who's looking to harm you, that's something I deal with
in my own personal life, like you can't. You can't
have been my friend long enough to support that man
and then still be my friend.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, you got a viral video saying that exact statement.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yes, it's been seen by more people than I'm comfortable with,
because again, you know, you start to get recognized in
public by time, and some people agree with you, and
that's cool. They want a handshake and a hug. Some
people don't. They walk up and call you words that.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Well.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Kanye West should not be a polarizing or interesting figure,
but somehow he is. And he made really good music
with the assistance of a lot of other really talented people.
We we rushed to genius for him. But if you
break down all of these brought us, drop Out was
kind of his singular effort. That was him. Everything beyond that,
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you're talking about Kid Cuddy and Travis Scott and you know,
you can go on and on people that he borrowed
from that he collaborated with and they made beautiful music together.
But the length and the broadness of his genius or
what we give him credit for in that way, I
just say, now that he's isolated himself, pay attention to
the stuff that he's making. Now it's really bad. Same
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genius minus all these people he's pushed out of his
life because they don't fully enable his narcissism and his Yeah,
I get it, you know what I mean. So I
hope the brother finds his way before he harms himself
or anybody else. Outside of that, there's not much I
(30:50):
can offer in the space that's occupied by mister west Well.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
The only thing I'll add is that it's important for
everyone to know that even if a person is like suffering,
even if a person is dealing with addiction or whatever
mental issues or whatever person is dealing with it doesn't
give them the right to.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Harm you.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Right, So, you know, this is something that it's hard
for people to learn, especially when there's people that you
love that are close to you.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
If there's someone who lives in your home that's a
drug addict and then things start going missing, you have to.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Make some tough decisions.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Like you have to leave my house type decisions, you're
not welcome here type decisions, even if it's someone that
you love, Because if you don't take a firm stance, then,
as Q mentioned, you're enabling this behavior that harms you.
And the thing that a lot of people don't realize
it also harms the person who is taking advantage of you.
(32:02):
They are further harmed by it. So you know, for
Kanye West making a lot of anti black and anti
Semitic comments over the years, now, you know, I remember
this whole thing for me at least, started when Kanye
West started incorporating the Confederate flag into his clothing from
a tour from years ago, long before Donald Trump and
all of this started.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Stuff that Donald Trump wasn't even a thing. Kanye West
was in.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
A weird place, and you know, we're DJ's Q and
r DJ, so we have to play his music, and
so I felt very conflicted.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I don't have to play the movie.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Well, we had to once upon a time, and so
I felt very conflicted. Back when this Confederate flag thing started,
you know, this controversy started many years ago. So you know,
I've been watching this guy with kind of a watchful eye.
And you know, according to John Legend, this uh devolution.
You know, I would call it de evolution, but you know,
(32:57):
anyway of Kanye West has been super wild. And then
you know, Q and I famously kind of we're at
odds with this guy in the media for a long time,
you know. So you know, like you says, you know,
I wish him the best, but you know, you got
to remember that Kanye West does a lot of stuff
(33:18):
just for attention. He who in the world caused jay
Z and Beyonce's children. Yeah, I don't even need to
say it, You're right, I don't even need to say it.
Like this is where we are with this guy. So
you know, in terms of like feeling bad for him
and all this sort of stuff, sure, but I can't
give him any free passes because he's just hurting people,
(33:41):
and until he finds his own way through that.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It's just like an addict. They have to find their
own way through it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
They don't need to be welcomed into my house to
further harm me. So again, I wish him well on
his journey. But yeah, nothing to see here, all right. Finally,
this from CNNA Federal Court rule Thursday that Alabama engaged
in intentional discrimination when it refused to draw a congressional
plan with a second black majority district after courts, including
the Supreme Court repeatedly rejected maps with just one such district.
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With the finding, the court said it would consider whether
to put Alabama under a Voting Rights to Act provision
that would require it to get federal approval of its
congressional plans going forward. The three judge panel, made up
of a former President Bill Clinton appointee and two appointees
of President Donald Trump, said that its conclusion that Alabama
was acting with a discriminatory intent and that was unusual
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but not a particularly close call.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
This record thus leaves us in no doubt that the
purpose of the design of the twenty twenty three plan
was to crack black voters across congressional districts in a
manner that makes it impossible to create two districts in
which they have an opportunity to elect candidates of their choice,
and thereby intentionally perpetuate the discriminatory effects of the twenty
twenty one plan. The Court said the legal war over
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Alabama's congressional map has waged for nearly half a decay.
The twenty twenty redistricting cycle was the first since the
passage of the Voting Rights Act that Alabama and other
states in the South were not required to get so
called preclearance for the maps at twenty thirteen Supreme Court
ruling that gutted the part of the law that required
states with a history of racial discrimination in their voting
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practices to get changes to their election policies approved by
the Justice Department or a federal court. So, you know,
the court, I guess the courts still matter for something,
you know, And this I mean you know Alabama, I mean,
we covered this, this was years ago, but we covered
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this one. This was happening because this was like voter
disenfranchisement textbook. So the fact that the federal courts are
kind of doing something to keep Alabama from gerrymandering the
state further.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
You know that's that's not nothing.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
So your thoughts here, Mike, legal discrimination, My goodness, you know,
I'm gonna put it on the books. This is how
we're going to draw this up, and this is going
to be the legalies that will entitle this movement going forward.
There's no other way to cut it. If you really
think about it. What's the purpose of it. The purpose
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is to make sure that there that black Americans, black
Alabamians will not get an opportunity to vote for the
people in the district that they want to vote because
that has been yanked from underneath them and given a
reason as to why that cannot move forward is that
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it has been decided on by the courts, and the
court says this is the way it is. And I
remember covering this when when when those congressional maps were
being drawn up, they were like, oh, my goodness, I
can't put a finite number on the drafts that were
put forth. But there wasn't an ordinate number of drafts
(37:02):
that were put forth before even this came through fruition. Yeah,
so it is it is just a legal way of
this discriminating it that it's hard. It's hard to say
anything else about that. Q.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Well, you mentioned the courts, you know, whodos to them
for declaring that something wrong happened and that it was wrong? Right,
But we live in an age now where that matters
because of what like the powers that be have shown, Okay,
the courts said that was wrong? Who like, what do
they have to do differently? What change will come from
(37:39):
this ruling is what I'm interested in seeing, the ruling
in itself. Maybe once upon a time that would have
meant something. I've watched the Supreme Court in the last
sixty to ninety days unanimously agree on something which does
not happen often, and the powers that be completely ignore it.
The highest court in the land, So bravo for telling
(38:02):
us that the sun shines and that water makes things wet.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
But until we see what you're going to do with that,
you know we're here. So I guess we're gonna keep
watching Alabama. I don't think we have too much of
a choice, So yeah, we'll keep you posted. And with
that in mind, I'd like to thank you very much
for your time. Insight once again. Today's guest is bi
In News anchor Mike Moore. This has been a production
(38:27):
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Speaker 4 (38:42):
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Speaker 1 (38:44):
And join us tomorrow as we share our news with
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Here at the Black Information Network, we know how important
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(00:20):
Jah and I am q Ward. All right, mister Mike Moore,
welcome back to the show. How have you been, sir?
It's been a while.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Wonderful, wonderful gentlemen. Have you been?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I've been good man. How about you?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I've been fantastic. Thanks for asking, man.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, man, are we are in good sperivice? No problem?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
All right, Well let's get to the news. First off,
this from People Magazine. The CFO of Give a sin
Go is defending his company after a woman accused of
using a racial slur against a five year old at
a Minnesota playground went on to raise over seven hundred
and fifty thousand dollars for herself through donations on the platform.
In an interview with News Nation, CFO Jacob Wells defended
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Shiloh Hendrix, who was captured in a video appearing to
call it young child the N word after accusing him
of trying to steal from her son, and has since
raised over seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars in funds
to protect her family. Wells accused people of piling onto
Hendrix after seeing the viral video, which was filmed on
a playground in Rochester, Minnesota, on April twenty eighth. According
(01:18):
to NBC News, the CFO said the public has adopted
a mob mentality which has ruined so many people's lives.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
The little boy was rummaging through her belongings, so it's
not like she just stepped into the situation unprovoked and
called the young boy a term, Wells claimed, before adding
that he doesn't condone calling people racial epitaphs and bad
names at all. While he told News Nation he was
bothered by the video, he continued to defend Hendricks. Quote,
Shiloh is going through a dark moment just as much
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as this other family is, and we want to be
a light in all of these moments.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well said.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Goes on to say, I believe in freedom of speech,
freedom of association. When you start going down the road
of cancelation and cancel culture. It actually brings the very
things that we say that we're against.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So a lot of process here.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I know people were kind of going after the fundraising
site because they didn't feel it was right for her
to raise money off of hatred. But you know, this
is what the CFO is saying. So you know, talk
to us a bit, Mike, give us your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
What seems like, you know, put your money where your
mouth is. You know, if you really think about that's
a lot of money, three quarters of a million dollars,
you must feel very very strongly about it. And it
begs to the issue of racial slurs have been hurled
(02:42):
since Lord knows when started to take out anyway, Lord
knows when Okay, when you aim and target it at
a child? Though, have you not stooped to a new law.
Do you think where does it go from from there? Disabled?
(03:06):
Where does it go from there? Those who are totally defenseless.
There's there's there's no way that you would be behind
this at all. And I under understand if you think
about it, it looks it seems to I don't know
this for a fact. So because we're talking about this
(03:27):
now you can put together pieces from a publicist and
you can almost read it verbatim and see how it reads,
and and you and you know how it's been vetted,
and you know what what words trigger what, and to
keep yourself in the clear, so to speak and protect yourself.
(03:48):
I read, I read all through this. Though we do
not defend this. You are, yeah, you are, you're raising money,
you're you're and you're raising a slew up. And while
you don't wish to harm anyone in this way, and
everyone has their own voice, this is how you see things.
(04:09):
It's disturbing, quite frankly.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Cute.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I think it's important to remind our audience the child
in this story is five years old. Because her defense
continues to be, well, this person did this thing, so
what do you guys expect from me? They were rummaging
through my stuff or they whatever the case, When you
(04:38):
remind yourself that the person she's talking about is five,
and then you think about the logic, reasoning, and decision
making of a five year old kind of not yet
being at a point where they could even be criminal
in nature. A five year old going through a bag
at a playground or a park.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Looking for orange slices, maybe looking for orange slices or
toy or whatever, right, and her being an adult woman
attacking this child and slurring, using that slur, that specific,
very very pointed slur, and then becoming some type of
sympathetic character or might I even say hero of some
(05:21):
sort to a portion of our country that has.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
That has, if nothing else, shown up for each other
in a very very united way over the past few years.
The more racist, the more blatantly racist and hateful you are,
be at Kyle Rittenhouse, be it the young man who
killed the young man on the subway. If you can
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show up and make it clear that you're racist and
that your intentions and the decisions you make are based
on hate for someone, you can become rich in this
country very easily. And this woman became a part of
pop culture for being a very outwardly hateful person. She
(06:09):
flipped that to victimhood and will be a millionaire in
short order only in America.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You know, there's there's really not much that I could
add to this, because this is just a sad story
all the way around. But the one thing that I,
you know, I would add is that that inward, you know,
when a person is upset, they might cuss, they might yell,
(06:39):
they might raise their voice, you know whatever. For this lady,
she saw a child going through her bag, and she
could have said, you know, any number of things, Hey,
get out of my bag, you're being foolish, you're stealing
from me, you're a thief, anything like that. But because
of the in words history, it's typically only a and
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used to describe black people. In other words, she wouldn't
have said that word if it was a white child
going through her back, you know, she would, you know,
wouldn't have occurred to her. So what you have is
a very specific word intended to degrade a very specific individual.
And that is the type of racism that people are
(07:26):
most comfortable digesting. Like if you say the N word,
then you're a racist. That's why a lot of white
folks be like, hey, I don't say the INN word,
so I'm not racist. And you know, racism can take
on many forms, but that's the one everyone for the
most part agree is is racism right? And if someone
could convince me that she would have said the same
(07:48):
word to a white child, And then you know this guy,
this cfo's take on free speech and all that sort
of stuff would land. But nobody could convince me that
she would have used that same word if it was
a whitechl out what she saw as a child rummaging
through her belongings. As children do, they get into stuff,
trust me, I know. And she thought, well, this child
(08:11):
is black, so I can get this one word off
that is only used against Black people.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's based on their race, the race of all black
culture culture, right.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Right, And this word only only works to put down
this this group of people. So I'm going to use
this word in this moment. And you know the q's point,
she's you know, raising money off of it. And it
sounds like the CFO of the company is defending her
on News Nation, which doesn't surprise me one bit. And
so again, Q, your point is well made that this
this sort of racism is well insulated.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And I shore something that very quickly. I just thought
we'll talk about something. I have no theology scholar by
any stretch of the imagination. I just remember, you know,
being told as a as a younger man social a
man speak at socially.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Exactly, there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So if we're looking at give sin Go as a
platform to support I say if you're black or you
stand with black people, that's not really the wave anymore
because that clearly, based on the cfo's language, is a
haven for white supremacy. And indeed he is echoing a
(09:22):
lot of the talking points on a far right news channel.
So you know, give sen go. We don't need to
do business, not even a cancel thing. It's like, all right,
that's how you feel, and you do you, We'll do
us and that'll be enough, all right. Next up this
from the British Broadcasting Company. A judge declared a mistrial
after the jury was unable to reach a verdict in
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the murder trial of a Michigan police officer who fatally
shot a black man during a traffic stop. Christopher Sure
was charged with second degree murder for the killing of
twenty six year old Patrick Lioya in Grand Rapids, Michigan,
on April fourth, twenty twenty two. The killing of mister
Leoyah Congolese immigrants sparked widespread protest and put the question
(10:04):
of racial injustice and polishing in the spotlight. The mistrial
is a partial victory for mister shr who could still
face another trial. The April fourth incident was caught in
graphic detail and from multiple angles on a police body
cam and dashboard camera, and eyewitness his phone and a
doorbell security system from a nearby home. Footage shows mister
Lioya fleeing from mister Shur on foot following a traffic stop.
(10:26):
The two men scuffle over mister Shur's taser before he
shoots mister Lioya, who was face down on the ground.
A scuffle over the taser was central to mister Sure's defense,
who testified that he was in great fear because a
taser can cause quote excruciating pain and injury. Goes on
to say, quote I believe that if I hadn't done
it at the time, I wasn't going to go home,
(10:49):
mister Shure said of shooting mister Lioya. So miss trial,
that's a loss for the family. The family really wanted
justice here. But uh, I mean really nothing surprises me anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
How about you, Mike, You know something I'm whenever I'm
asked you know, are you are you a bit surprised
by this? I usually come up with the same answer.
I'm never surprised. I'm just disappointed.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
There you go. I'd go with that, and.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I kind of understand the mentality of the police, having
done many stories on police officers, and also of the
of their training, by which I'm truly truly believed there
could never ever be enough training when it comes to
law enforcement. And if you ever go on one of
those exercises and I and I suggest that you do
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one day, not not to change your mind, just to
give you a different perspective. If you go through one
of those those camps that they go through and when
they put you in different situations and hostage situations and
situations where there's an active shooter, and you'd be surprised
at what they shoot at and what they do and
(12:08):
what they feel and they have an idea of what's
coming at them, not to totality, but their reflexes and
things that they do sometimes are far different than what
they would do if they had better training and if
their mindset was different. Now, with that being said, we
(12:29):
were not there. I don't know what that fear level
and that adrenaline surge was going on at the time
of that incident, but it seems like that situation could
have been better handled. That African American man, that black man,
that Conglese man did not have to die face down
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on the ground.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
That's cowardly, that's my take on it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
That's cowardly.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
You know, there's a reason why I always push back
when we're having these conversations and the word fear comes out.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
He pushed back on me.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, I get it, because it's not that I wish
this would happen to people that weren't black. It's just
that we have so few instances of it happening to
people that are not black. And Mike said it best,
you're kind of always afraid in real time when it's
time to draw guns and you're in a situation where
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you are fighting for defending yourself and trying to make
it home to your family. I'd assume that fear happens
every time. So how come the only time that the
person on the other side of your fear has to
die is when they look like me. It's not I
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wish other people had to experience it. I'm just pointing
out that they don't. We do not have a bunch
of these stories and a bunch of these examples where
the violent, aggressive, angry white man or woman fighting for
their lives, trying to get away, trying to stay safe,
themselves maybe are killed shot in the back while laying
down or running away. That's how I know they don't happen,
(14:15):
because if they had counterexamples, trust me, they would show
them to us all the time, just to prove to
us that they're not racist and that we're wrong. I
see what you So, yeah, this story plays out like
the story always plays out. And then even when charges
are brought, because sometimes there's no charges brought up, nothing
to see here. We reviewed all the film that you
guys watched where they killed the person like you saw,
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and there's nothing to see here. We're not even going
to press charges. But oftentimes the charges are pressed, and
even when we found guilty, sentencings is very very light,
very disproportionate to what it would be if it was
your eye. Outcomes like this have become very very normal.
So again, no, not shot, not surprised. Disappointed isn't the
right emotion for me either. It's just a heightened compounded
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frustration and and a counter fear. So then on a
routine traffic stop, instead of just reaching and getting my
registration and my insurance and just wait, I'm terrifying that
I might not see my kids again. Because the officer
didn't see the blinker that I absolutely use when I
got over.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Well, I think that this story, and in my view,
it points and it always has ever since we first
talked about it on Civic Cipher, points to systemic UH shortcomings.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
In so far as policing is concerned. The argument was that.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
He was going for the taser, right, mister Leoya was
going for the taser. And you know, what we've seen
often is that when people reach for a taser or
reach for a gun, it's because they're trying to stop
the police officer from pulling out the taser or the
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gun because they know what it means. Right, You're gonna
pull that out and hurt me, So I'm going to
try to stop you from pulling it out, meaning I
have to reach in the same general direction, probably trying
to grab your arm or trying to grab the taser
from you, and I'm not gonna grab it and then
turn it around and then figure out in that moment
how it works, and then deploy it and then stand
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over your body as you shake violently because you're being electrocuted.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
That's not what I'm thinking. I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I don't want to get tasted. So let me stop
myself from getting tased because this individual in front of
me intends to harm me. Right, It's a limbic response, right,
Every creature with a nervous system has that response. Fight
or flight is the reaction, okay, So police get to
use that to justify their actions. He reached for my
(17:03):
taser right in this example specifically, now watch this. The
taser is supposed to be non lethal, okay, And if
this individual reaches for a taser, the police carry the
taser because it's a non lethal option. They carry a
taser and a gun.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
If you're going to kill people, you know, then that's
the world we're living right now. If you're gonna bring
a taser, you probably don't need a gun man, that's
the point. So you don't have to kill people, right,
But you know, that's a whole different conversation.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
But to.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Carry the taser around as though it's a non lethal option,
and then in the trial, after you've killed him, because
you shot him when he was face down, in the trial,
suggest that you feared for your life because he reached
for the taser earlier, it flies in the face of
the justification for having the taser in the first place.
(17:59):
It's supposed to be the non lee option. And again,
this guy's face down on the ground and you know
he's executed now, so he doesn't get to even tell
his side of this. He didn't get to say, hey, look,
I was afraid I was trying to reach so that
he wouldn't tase me. Because clearly the officer understands that hurts.
I don't want to be hurt. He probably you know,
(18:21):
I don't know his story because he's dead. But I
I've done nothing wrong. Why am I being hurt? Why
is this person gets to just hurt me because they've
chosen a version of reality where I'm wrong and they
don't have to listen. It doesn't matter if if they're
wrong or not. They've they've decided that I'm wrong, and
(18:43):
they get to hurt me. And again, my nervous system
will compel me to escape or to try to lessen
the impact of this inevitable confrontations.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Hurt.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
My ears just perked up with what words you said
and all that you said, and it's so aptly and
well said. He said he was executed, Oh yeah, based yeah,
his life, And that's the part I don't think I
think people like I think we're like living in a movie.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
No, these are people that had stuff to do the
next day. These are people that had friends, These are
people that were part of a community. They had goals,
they had dreams, And I think that a lot of times,
a lot of people that hear these stories and they
just kind of sweep them under the rug or like
that CEO from the previous story. You know, when they're
black people or other marginalized people, there's this association.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
With us being like.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Not contributing, not valuable, not you know whatever. And they
see the Lebrons and the whoever else is and they
get they get their free passes. But anyone who doesn't
have a big name, who they don't directly benefit from
their existence, they're just background, noise and disposable. But no,
that is an execution of a human being who had
they in theory, were entitled to liberty and the pursuit
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of happiness, and perhaps had dreams and goals and were
on the path to pursuing it. And their story ended
face down in somebody's yard. They didn't die as an
old man, surrounded by their families saying prayers for them. Nope,
executed like an animal in a field, and perhaps, at
(20:22):
least perhaps according to him, didn't even do anything wrong.
Imagine just driving home and then the police decide that
you did something. Maybe you didn't even do it, maybe
you didn't have no idea what they're talking about, and
because of that interaction, your life ends on a sidewalk.
You were just going about your business.
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Today's guest on your weekend Recap is Bin News anchor
Mike Moore. All right, next up from The New York Post,
when asked about why Kanye West has changed so much,
John Legend responded, quote, I don't think we're qualified to
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psychoanalyze him. The e Got winner admitted that he didn't
see a hint of west Current obsessions with anti Semitism,
anti blackness, or anything else, adding that it's sad to
see his devolution. He goes on to say, but after
his mother passed in two thousand and seven, there was
definitely a difference. His dissent started then and seems to
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have excelled rated recently. West's mom, Donda West, died of
heart attack at age fifty eight in two thousand and seven,
one day after she had several cosmetic surgery procedures, including liposuction,
a tummy tuck, and breast reduction. Back in twenty twenty two,
Legend said the musicians couldn't sustain their friendship because of
West's vocal support for Donald Trump. Quote he was upset
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that I didn't support his run for presidency of the
United States of America for understandable reasons, Legend explained on
the Axe Files podcast. He goes on to say, I
wasn't alone in that, but you know, he was not
happy about that, and we really haven't been close since then.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
And twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Legend noted in an interview with The Sunday Times that
he and West were in different places in their lives.
So this is just someone who at least once upon
a time was close to Kanye West, weighing in on
his devolution.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
As he states, so you know your thoughts here.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I'm not qualified to psychoanalyze. You know your friend Mike,
that was a good one. I come up with them
every now and again. But common sense will tell you
that someone is going through something, and everyone goes through something,
they go through it through different degrees. You Q and myself,
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we go we go through things. How we handle things,
that's another story. Now put someone who it would be
hard to it would be very very hard to argue this.
He's done near genius in his element, okay, but with
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that comes turmoil. Sure, sometimes you wrestle with things that
you're not equipped to handle. And who's to say that
that mister West didn't need some sort of intervention. And
again I'd like to qualify and say I cannot psychoanalyze.
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But again, we are all human, and it's very easy
to say something about someone when you don't walk that path,
when you don't feel those inner deeming demons. And I'm
going to bring up something very very personal, and I
don't mind by the way it served. You have a
way of doing that. Once dated a young woman and
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I didn't realize that she was clinically depressed. And I
would come home sometimes and I would look for and
she wouldn't be home. And then one time when I
found her in the closet with the door shut and
completely dark and looking towards the ground, I'm I'm sorry,
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that's a sign. So I've learned to kind of be
better equipped to realize that there are things that people
go through, and she was, she was diagnosed with clinical depression,
but there were other things that she would do and
I won't go into that, that were destructive behaviors that
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were not quite as vocal as what mister West has
done and prolifically. He has said some things in the
in the financial space to quite frankly, make a whole
lot of sense. He's very introspective in some areas. However,
the anti semitic, the anti semitic, anti semitic verbiage that
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that he displayed, no one should have to go through that.
I mean, every culture has gone through something and certain
the Jewish people have gone through horrors as well as
Black people, and you know, to different degrees, and us
being blacks, you know, inherently we feel really different about
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those horrors. But I think that just sometimes people need
help and you don't need to alienate them. And he's
also in an entertainment space. If you think about it once,
once someone doesn't align with your purpose, your travels, your
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end game, they walk away anyway unless they're that, unless
that that they're that that ride or die, that person
that you know you can't say just anything to and
then don't you know, kiss your honey, you know what
I mean? Sure, so I have I have some some
empathy for him. I just think that there there's some
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people that need to be around him and can not
be your yes man and kind of look at that
path that you're traveling and and and be a beacon
and be a help. I could be completely wrong, but
that's my feeling.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Okay, well, that feels very you have. You have a
long runway there, and that's that's a special thing. So
now before you jump in, Q, I want to just
check in just to see if this is something you
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even want to discuss.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Okay, I kind of.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Got an idea of what you're going to say, because
this is a conversation that we have, not just on
the mics, but this is stuff, This is a part
of our actual life. But I, uh, oh, don't let
me ruin it for you.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I don't think Kanye West has any friends, okay. And
I don't mean I don't think that there are people
in his life that care about him. I just think
from his purview, you agree with or enable everything I'm doing,
or you're not my friend. So those who are real
friends that try to stand in for him, that try
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to stop him from being destructive and self destrus, if
he deems them not friends, you have to enable me
to do whatever harm I want to do to anyone,
including myself, or you're not my friend. And I think
John Legend is one of many people that, for those
similar reasons, have been dismissed by him. I also don't
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think any of us need to be medical professionals to
just see right, Like if someone crashed in through the
door of the studio right now with a gunshot wound.
I'm not a surgeon or a doctor, but I can
see that you're bleeding and that something's wrong. Maybe I
can't diagnose clinically, you know what the results of that
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wound are. I can't fix you, but I can see
I don't have to be a professional to point out
that something's wrong. And I don't know, man, you've both
kind of said it, this idea that I'm going to
run for president, and if you're not supporting me in that,
then you're not my friend and we can't speak anymore.
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And you know, when I've clearly aligned myself with someone
who's looking to harm you, that's something I deal with
in my own personal life, like you can't. You can't
have been my friend long enough to support that man
and then still be my friend.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, you got a viral video saying that exact statement.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yes, it's been seen by more people than I'm comfortable with,
because again, you know, you start to get recognized in
public by time, and some people agree with you, and
that's cool. They want a handshake and a hug. Some
people don't. They walk up and call you words that.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Well.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Kanye West should not be a polarizing or interesting figure,
but somehow he is. And he made really good music
with the assistance of a lot of other really talented people.
We we rushed to genius for him. But if you
break down all of these brought us, drop Out was
kind of his singular effort. That was him. Everything beyond that,
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you're talking about Kid Cuddy and Travis Scott and you know,
you can go on and on people that he borrowed
from that he collaborated with and they made beautiful music together.
But the length and the broadness of his genius or
what we give him credit for in that way, I
just say, now that he's isolated himself, pay attention to
the stuff that he's making. Now it's really bad. Same
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genius minus all these people he's pushed out of his
life because they don't fully enable his narcissism and his Yeah,
I get it, you know what I mean. So I
hope the brother finds his way before he harms himself
or anybody else. Outside of that, there's not much I
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can offer in the space that's occupied by mister west Well.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
The only thing I'll add is that it's important for
everyone to know that even if a person is like suffering,
even if a person is dealing with addiction or whatever
mental issues or whatever person is dealing with it doesn't
give them the right to.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Harm you.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Right, So, you know, this is something that it's hard
for people to learn, especially when there's people that you
love that are close to you.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
If there's someone who lives in your home that's a
drug addict and then things start going missing, you have to.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Make some tough decisions.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Like you have to leave my house type decisions, you're
not welcome here type decisions, even if it's someone that
you love, Because if you don't take a firm stance, then,
as Q mentioned, you're enabling this behavior that harms you.
And the thing that a lot of people don't realize
it also harms the person who is taking advantage of you.
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They are further harmed by it. So you know, for
Kanye West making a lot of anti black and anti
Semitic comments over the years, now, you know, I remember
this whole thing for me at least, started when Kanye
West started incorporating the Confederate flag into his clothing from
a tour from years ago, long before Donald Trump and
all of this started.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Stuff that Donald Trump wasn't even a thing. Kanye West
was in.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
A weird place, and you know, we're DJ's Q and
r DJ, so we have to play his music, and
so I felt very conflicted.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I don't have to play the movie.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Well, we had to once upon a time, and so
I felt very conflicted. Back when this Confederate flag thing started,
you know, this controversy started many years ago. So you know,
I've been watching this guy with kind of a watchful eye.
And you know, according to John Legend, this uh devolution.
You know, I would call it de evolution, but you know,
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anyway of Kanye West has been super wild. And then
you know, Q and I famously kind of we're at
odds with this guy in the media for a long time,
you know. So you know, like you says, you know,
I wish him the best, but you know, you got
to remember that Kanye West does a lot of stuff
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just for attention. He who in the world caused jay
Z and Beyonce's children. Yeah, I don't even need to
say it, You're right, I don't even need to say it.
Like this is where we are with this guy. So
you know, in terms of like feeling bad for him
and all this sort of stuff, sure, but I can't
give him any free passes because he's just hurting people,
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and until he finds his own way through that.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It's just like an addict. They have to find their
own way through it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
They don't need to be welcomed into my house to
further harm me. So again, I wish him well on
his journey. But yeah, nothing to see here, all right. Finally,
this from CNNA Federal Court rule Thursday that Alabama engaged
in intentional discrimination when it refused to draw a congressional
plan with a second black majority district after courts, including
the Supreme Court repeatedly rejected maps with just one such district.
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With the finding, the court said it would consider whether
to put Alabama under a Voting Rights to Act provision
that would require it to get federal approval of its
congressional plans going forward. The three judge panel, made up
of a former President Bill Clinton appointee and two appointees
of President Donald Trump, said that its conclusion that Alabama
was acting with a discriminatory intent and that was unusual
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but not a particularly close call.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
This record thus leaves us in no doubt that the
purpose of the design of the twenty twenty three plan
was to crack black voters across congressional districts in a
manner that makes it impossible to create two districts in
which they have an opportunity to elect candidates of their choice,
and thereby intentionally perpetuate the discriminatory effects of the twenty
twenty one plan. The Court said the legal war over
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Alabama's congressional map has waged for nearly half a decay.
The twenty twenty redistricting cycle was the first since the
passage of the Voting Rights Act that Alabama and other
states in the South were not required to get so
called preclearance for the maps at twenty thirteen Supreme Court
ruling that gutted the part of the law that required
states with a history of racial discrimination in their voting
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practices to get changes to their election policies approved by
the Justice Department or a federal court. So, you know,
the court, I guess the courts still matter for something,
you know, And this I mean you know Alabama, I mean,
we covered this, this was years ago, but we covered
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this one. This was happening because this was like voter
disenfranchisement textbook. So the fact that the federal courts are
kind of doing something to keep Alabama from gerrymandering the
state further.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
You know that's that's not nothing.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
So your thoughts here, Mike, legal discrimination, My goodness, you know,
I'm gonna put it on the books. This is how
we're going to draw this up, and this is going
to be the legalies that will entitle this movement going forward.
There's no other way to cut it. If you really
think about it. What's the purpose of it. The purpose
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is to make sure that there that black Americans, black
Alabamians will not get an opportunity to vote for the
people in the district that they want to vote because
that has been yanked from underneath them and given a
reason as to why that cannot move forward is that
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it has been decided on by the courts, and the
court says this is the way it is. And I
remember covering this when when when those congressional maps were
being drawn up, they were like, oh, my goodness, I
can't put a finite number on the drafts that were
put forth. But there wasn't an ordinate number of drafts
(37:02):
that were put forth before even this came through fruition. Yeah,
so it is it is just a legal way of
this discriminating it that it's hard. It's hard to say
anything else about that. Q.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Well, you mentioned the courts, you know, whodos to them
for declaring that something wrong happened and that it was wrong? Right,
But we live in an age now where that matters
because of what like the powers that be have shown, Okay,
the courts said that was wrong? Who like, what do
they have to do differently? What change will come from
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this ruling is what I'm interested in seeing, the ruling
in itself. Maybe once upon a time that would have
meant something. I've watched the Supreme Court in the last
sixty to ninety days unanimously agree on something which does
not happen often, and the powers that be completely ignore it.
The highest court in the land, So bravo for telling
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us that the sun shines and that water makes things wet.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
But until we see what you're going to do with that,
you know we're here. So I guess we're gonna keep
watching Alabama. I don't think we have too much of
a choice, So yeah, we'll keep you posted. And with
that in mind, I'd like to thank you very much
for your time. Insight once again. Today's guest is bi
In News anchor Mike Moore. This has been a production
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