November 21, 2024 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's been another busy news week and we like to
review the major stories of the week here on the
Black Information Network. Today, we are joined by Black Information
Network news anchors Esther Dillard and Doug Davis to discuss
this week's major stories. This is the Black Information Network
Daily Podcast, and I'm your host, rams this job all right,
Esther Dillard, Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
What's the latest and greatest in your life?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Oh, just taking it.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Through, you know, dealing with the fallout of the election
and what's happening and some people, you know, we're very
sad and disappointed, and I understand that.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
So I'm just taking it day by day.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It starts, Doug, tell me something good man, Well, we're alive,
We're here.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Hey, that's a start. I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Just to echo off of Esther's comment, Yeah, I mean,
you know, just kind of preparing for what's about to
happen in the year with some of these policies, and
so so really good, very excited about getting into the
content of this conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Sure, sure, Well, to your point, things have started already.
There have been some rumblings, and as you mentioned, it's
time for us to share. So I won't hold you
any longer. President elect Donald Trump continues to dominate the
news headlines with controversial cabinet picks and statements about his plans.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
On key political issues.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Earlier this week, he reaffirmed his plans on immigration policy,
and his comments have many folks feeling uncomfortable. Esther, let's
get started with you. Tell us more about this story,
and then, Doug, we'll get your reaction next well.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Trump has promised on day one that he's going to
launch the largest largest deportation program in American history. According
to ABC News, Trump plans to declare a national emergency
to carry out plans of a mass deportation of migrants
living in the US without legal permission. Reports are that
he plans to use part of the Department of Defense
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military pudget to pay for all of this. He's currently
tapped former acting ICE Director Tom Homan as the borders
are and right now. The military does help at the border,
but we've never seen anything like this. This could cousse
some legal problems, but where is Trump plans to declare
executive order to get around those legal problems. During a
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recent rally at Madison Square Garden, Trump said quote, I
will rescue every city and town that has been invaded
and conquered, and I will put those vicious, at bloodthirsty
criminals in jail, then kick the hell out of and
kick them the hell out of our country as fast
as possible end quote, and that I'll get there, all right.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
It is a bleak doug in regards to Trump and
is soon to be deportation efforts. I've heard reports that
the initiative, like you know, could cost billions of dollars,
and like money could be coming from the DoD Los
Angeles recently passed and ordnance against deportations, so they're now
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a sanctuary city. But actually there have been a sectuary city.
California as a state has already safeguards in place for that.
But but for the most part, you know, the ordinance
prohibits the use of city resources for immigration enforcement and
prevent city departments from sharing information of undocumented immigrants with
federal immigration authorities.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Now there are exceptions.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
President elect Trump says he's going to first go after
these immigrants who have criminal pass and that's one of
the exceptions that you know, Ice apparently can come in
to California communities to you know, try to find those
who you know, those legal immigrants who have you know,
criminal pass In relation to his controversial cabinet picks, you know,
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there's one particular pick that is really concerning me, and
his name is Pete Hesith. Apparently he's his pick for
the secret Hurry of Defense. And he has a tattoo
inked on his inner bicep that says deuced vault, which
is a phrase on the tattoo which means God wills it.
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It's associated with Crusades and white extremist groups. The phrase
has been adopted by the Proud Boys and the group
Identity ev Ropa.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Now, if he is a line with some of.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
These ideologies of these groups, how will his decision, you know,
if he does get to be the head, you know,
how will his decisions affect our relationships with Israel the
Middle East? You know, what will be the consequences surrounding
those decisions, you know, militarily the Proud Boys and the
other group, they have openly expressed their anti Semitic views.
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The Proud Boys have shown support for Russia and Vladimir Putin. So, yeah,
you know, Trump, these guys are really playing some chess
right here, you know.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
So we really have to stay aware.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Uh, this is really something to think about with this
guy possibly you know, leading the DoD.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, I think that you're absolutely right. This is so
complicated and so much of a departure, not just from
the norm but even from Trump's first presidency. I want
to make an optimistic prediction, and that is that, you know,
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he might do some sort of performative deportation something like that,
just to kind of satisfy and.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Satiate the voter base that he's sort of whipped up.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But I don't imagine that he's going to be able
to get everything off the way that he's positioning himself.
And I don't know that he really wants that. He
might say that he might have campaigned on that, but
I remember him saying that he wanted to tank the
border bill so that he could campaign on a weak border.
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I know that the first time he ran he ran on,
you know, let's build that wall and get Mexico to
pay for it. But outside of building a couple of
sections of wall, there is no wall to speak of, right,
And so it's these things that makes me feel like
these are just the performative aspects. And again it's an
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optimistic prediction. I'll admit that I'll see that entirely, but
I think more importantly the consequences of him whipping up
this fear and stirring up this fear, the real world
implications of that are felt in places like where I live,
you know, in a border state where this for folks
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that don't know a lot about this part of the country,
this used to be Mexico. Before it was the United States,
it was Mexico. And so the people that live here
like this being their ancestral home, are Mexican people. And
a lot of those Mexican people had family going all
the way far south, you know, Mexican or sorry, Arizona
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is one of the newer states admitted to the United
States of America. Or rather, Arizona is one of the
newer states admitted to the United States of America. And
so there are people here with very strong connections to Mexico.
Family from Mexico. There are people that go back and
forth across the border. That's what you do here, that's
what you do in Texas, that's what you do in
New Mexico. That's what you do in southern California. And
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this idea that Donald Trump and his extreme views on
Mexican people. Let's be honest. On the ground, it's a
very scary feeling, and it's very tense here, and so
a lot of people are kind of bracing for what.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
May come.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You know, a lot of people's predictions aren't as optimistic
as mine. But I'm hoping that right, and he's just gonna,
you know, do some performative stuff, deport a couple of
people who are indeed bad actors, and you know, spend
the next the subsequent three and a half years, you know,
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running the circus like you did the first time. That's
my hope at least, So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Ironic though, that the a lot of those who identified
themselves as Latino.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Voted Yet, no, you're not wrong, and this is a
point that I've had to make before. So yes, there
are a lot of Latinos who feel closer to white
than they do to.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Minority.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Somehow, they feel like that's that's successible, that's that's that's
a reality in which they can live. And you see
that their interests align with you know, the interest of indeed,
a white supremacist, a person who says, no, these people
are bad, We're good, even if we're made from the
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same genetic materials.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's very odd.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But you understand that colorism plays into that because a
lot of Mexican people can be very fair skin even
though they speak Spanish, they're from Mexico, their families from Mexico,
they identify as Mexican, so forth, and so on. But
I want to make sure that our listeners know because
I do believe in brothers, brotherhood and sisterhood. I believe
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in fellowship. I believe that we are stronger together. I
want to remind everyone that most Latinos men and women
did not vote for Donald Trump presidency. Most of them
did not vote for that. I think the lowest number
that we had was something like which is the majority
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that voted indeed for Kamala Harris, and then there were
some for independence and the rest for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So that is still a majority.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
So to just paint everyone with that same brushstroke, I
think would be unfair and I think that it misses
the mark in terms of how we can have meaningful conversations.
If we do need to have those conversations with our
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Latino brothers and sisters who may have cast a vote
for Donald Trump, because again, a lot of them can
get lost in the sauce thinking, hey, Trump presidency could
be really good for me, and yeah, those immigrants down there,
you know, they didn't do it the way I did
it or my grandma did it or whatever, and they
can really distance themselves from, indeed, the consequences of a
Trump presidency and the effects of you know, white supremacy
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throughout this country.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So bood for thought up next.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
C SPAN's Washington Journal program received some unwelcome publicity when
a publican viewer called into the show, Doug, this time,
we're going to start with you, give some details on
the story, and then Esther. Of course, we're going to
come to you in next for your thoughts.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
This was alarming.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
On a recent episode of See Spance Washington Journal, a
Republican viewer called into the show during the open forum
segment reade some pretty racist comments. During the November seventeenth episode,
the caller, goes by the name of Rick, had the
nerve to say that quote, colored people wouldn't have basketball
if it were not for the abolishment of slavery. I
shouldn't buy former President Abraham Lincoln. Of course, Abraham Lincoln
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is a I was a Republican. And then he went
on to rant about why he doesn't understand why black
people don't like president like Trump, saying that black people
should remember who sets you off.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Free, you know.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
And then here's a kicker, he said, you know, quote,
can't they think back to their ancestors times when British
and stuff was coming over to them and you know,
and then he brought in, you know, a topic of
gender role issues, stating that women should just do all
the cleaning and men should either old or their household.
Wraps up the call by saying that there's going to
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be some bad weather in the South and that Democrats
should repent before the storm's hits. I was really kind
of shocked that they allowed that caller to get through,
but hey, you know, it's what happened. And you know,
his sentiments are among many white Republicans.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
In my opinion, he just had the nerve to say it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
You know, it's crazy too.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
If I can, if I.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Can add this, you know, this is somewhat of an
argument that I always have with black Republicans, you know,
and you know, you know, if we go back during
those times, you know, the Republican Party was more of
a progressive party, mainly centered in the North where the
Democrats known as the Dixie Democrats in the nineteen hundreds,
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you know, they were the.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Power structure of slavery, you know. And so.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
I don't want to get too deep into the conversation,
but you know the argument that I have and is,
at some point I believe there was a flip a switch.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Oh yeah, that was around the Great Depression.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
He's, well, yeah, great Depression too, right, there was a
flip and then we left, you know, the Republican Party,
and the Dixie Democrats went over to the Republicans.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
You know what I'm saying. So you know what he's
talking about.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
I don't think he really knows his history, but he
made a point and it made a lot of noise.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So I was going to say that in terms of
that caller, what surprised me was not that he got through,
but that he had so much time to get off,
so much ignorance.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It was.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It was astounding. But I just wanted to plug that
in there. I didn't mean to cut you out, esther.
Let's get your thoughts here.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Well, a quote from Albert Einstein, the only thing more
dangerous than ignorance is arrogance.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
First, let's address the colored people term.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
It's twenty twenty four words matter, and that term is
dusty as his understanding of history.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Respect goes a long way, so let's start there.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Then now there's this idea that black folks should be
eternally grateful to Republicans for setting them free. Yes, Lincoln
signed the Emancipation Proclamation, but freedom wasn't a gift. It
was a hard fought demand, enslaved people who resisted rebelled
persists long before Lincoln put that to paper. So and
then there's a claim that Lincoln's legacy somehow granted people
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black people basketball. Black folks were inventing, building and excelling
long before hoops came into play, and they'll continue to
do so without this guy's approval or folks like him.
And finally, my words are I feel like these words
that he gave out were extremely abusive. The idea that
abuse is somehow justified, that people should endure it because
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someone did this in the past, had somehow gave them
a supposed favor. That's not gratitude, that's gas lighting. Black
Americans shouldn't owe anyone their silence or their submission or
their servitude. They deserve as respect, equity, opportunity, And I
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guess that's.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Where I'll leave it.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, I think your point is well made.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
There's I think gaslighting is a is a great way
to put it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
For this viewer, I don't know if he's I don't
I don't like how this is going to sound. But
I don't know if he's intelligent enough to think strategically
and in that way. But I certainly know what you
mean in terms of like higher levels of government or
or you know, political pundits or so forth, to using
gas lighting as a tactic on black and brown communities.
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But in terms of this caller, Doug, I think that
you mentioned it that this is something that we see
quite a bit for from people who would cast their
vote for Donald Trump. This is one of the things
that allows them to distance themselves from you know, how
does this affect other people? They don't know what's best
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for them. I do, I'm going to vote this way.
They clearly can't see that Donald Trump is a Republican
and Abraham Lincoln is a Republican. Why don't they vote Republican?
It's the weirdest thing to me. Right, So it's a
combination of mental gymnastics because they need to know that
they're good people. They don't want to be racist themselves.
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Even though you know, like we could look at this
individual caller and say, Okay, he's probably got some strong
racist tendencies and racist roots. He's firing off with the
colored people. It just shows that he's not He's from
an old school, you know, way of thinking, and a
lot of old school thinking, especially for white people in
this country, you know, judging from his accident is probably
somewhere in the South. It's based in racism. That's just
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kind of the environment they grew up in. But yeah,
it's a combination of you know, mental gymnastics or ignorance.
And I think that he he was more of the
ignorant sort than the mental gymnastics sort because of everything
that he said.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
He didn't really have to jump that far.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You know, as I mentioned, he's his thinking is, well,
if Abraham Lincoln is a Republican and Donald Trump is
a Republican, you know, why don't why don't you continue.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
To vote Republican?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Republicans have done more for black people than anyone without Republicans.
You wouldn't even be playing basketball, right, and and it's
it's stupid, and it's it's you can tell he's not
a smart person. But I'm assuming, I'm assuming for the
sake of this conversation that he means well, and he's
just confused. And I think that I say all this
to say that education is critically important, you know, not
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just for black people and black children, for us to
know where we come from, why we are where we are,
and what we need to do to advance our collective agenda.
But it's also important for white people. And this is
the other side of that coin. When you know, things
like critical race theory, things like American history, the fullness
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of American history are taken out of schools because you know,
a whitewashed, sanitized version of American politics will yield this
result right here of this man saying, well, I mean
it's as simple as one, two three. Clearly black people
are either ignorant or they just feel like they're like,
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what is it, masochists or sadists or whatever the word
is when you like to do harmful things to yourself.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And so again that allows him.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
A further degree of insulation from the real goings on
the ground, probably doesn't know any Black people. If he does,
they might see the world way that he does because
they might not be educated.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And we're in this.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Cycle where these people have to vote, and because the
world is a lot simpler to them, they vote and
think that everybody else is less intelligent and less informed
than they are. And rather than questioning, why did seventy
I think it was seventy two percent of black men
ninety two percent of black women vote for Kamala Harris?
Those those are huge numbers. Are all of them wrong?
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Or is there something there? Rather than think of it
critically like that, it's really easy for him to say, well,
I mean, I just don't understand. They wouldn't even have basketball,
you know. And we're here talking about him. Black Information
Network News anchors Esther Dillard and Doug Davis are here
with us discussing this week's major stories. All Right, Black
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social media personality Charleston White recently disrupted a city council
meeting in Texas by stating a variety of inappropriate race
based comments that have since gone viral. Esther, let's get
back to you for this one. Share it with our
listeners more about Charleston City council address, and then Doug,
we're going to give you a chance to weigh next.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Well, there's footage of Charleston White being kicked out of
the city council meeting for claiming black people spread STDs
in white neighborhoods.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You've got video that went viral.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Five Magazine reports that he went there warning black people
are invading predominantly white neighborhoods spreading sexually transmitted diseases, and
one of the council members pretty much said stop using
inappropriate language.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
He did not and was removed.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I looked at the short clip and it was posted
on ViBe's website, and the man basically used religion and
God and biblical reference as the reason for saying this
in front of the council. And I always suspect when
I see something like this that perhaps he was paid
for doing this, but you know, there's no evidence of
that right now.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It was very bizarre. It played into repeating a lot.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Of the racist stereotypes that we've seen over the years
that have been repeated about black people. It just was
surprising likely for many to hear it come from from
the mouth of a black person.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
M doug, let's get your thoughts here.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I mean, if you listen to his opening remarks, he
said he's not a civil man.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
That's likely one of the first words that came out
of his mouth.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Well, look, Charleston is a social media influence, so let's
be real. He's known for making controversial statements, particularly regarding
black people, and he's got millions of followers.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Some of my best.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Friend, my best male friends, who are on social media,
they follow him, and you know, and they like his content,
and a lot of us have come across his content.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
So when the story dropped, you know, much like Esher.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Said, I was hurt that a black person, particularly black man,
would say such negative things about us in that fashion
in a dignified setting. And he liked President elect Trump
knows that controversy sales period, you know, and it makes
me reflect on the country. Are we pleasure junkies here? Like,
is there something happening with our neuro transmitters when we
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casually taken this type of stuff?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Do we find this amusing?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
You know, look at all the free press that he's
getting from this, you know, like why even advertise just
say something crazy? And you know, I'm sure he's probably
planning a tour soon. So again disappointed. But I will
say that after searching through some videos on YouTube, he
has been quite vocal at council meetings for a few years,
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and I don't know if some of those things that
are on YouTube kind of help spark, you know, his
popularity on platforms like TikTok.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
But yeah, again, very disappointing.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, and I can see that he's.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
A I'm not a fan of his, but I see
how people could be because he he has a couple
of videos that have gone viral of him making some
really good points. And I think that the combination of
making a good point, or maybe not even making a
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good point, but providing a good perspective while making a
point right something that affirms your belief or challenges your
belief in a way that is meaningful, that can cause
you to become somewhat of an authority figure in the
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minds of the masses. And just because you have good
opinions on how to dress or haircuts or whatever, dating
tips or whatever it is that his earlier viral clips
were about, doesn't mean that your advice is good. Across
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the board, I think that, you know, he shows his weaknesses.
This isn't the first time he's been in the headlines
for saying something kind of just unpopular. And yeah, you know,
to both of your points, he could be doing this
because it's a strategy. He's a showman, he's trying to
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get engagement or whatever. But also, I think that some
of the responsibilities on us, the public. And I'm not
going to just blame us, because algorithms serve us what
they think that we will want, and so there's a
degree of us like consuming it, and there's a degree
of us not having a choice in what we consume
because the algorithm has.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Picked it for us.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
But the fact is is that for him to even
be in this position, we need to know that, you know,
just because a person has made a good point in
the past, doesn't mean that everything that they say is
going to be valid based in truth, factual. Indeed, some
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of it is delusional and some of it is racist.
These are racist talking points that he's that he's sharing now.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
That is that was true when I remember when I
was younger, I saw when Kobe Bryant got caught up
in that sexual assault case in Colorado, that in that town,
the ku Klux Klan distributed flyers.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
This is how long ago that was.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
They distributed flyers saying don't have sex with black people
because black people have aids, right.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And this is based in very a small amount of truth.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
There are some things that disproportionately affect you know, marginalized
communities because of the fact that information does not penetrate
as well in black and brown communities, and the resources
aren't readily available like they are in white communities. But
the numbers are so small overall that you can sensationalize
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them by saying there's a thirteen percent higher you know,
infection rate over here than there is over there. Meanwhile,
the cases go from like fifty to fifty six in
the city, fifty six, fifty cases in this community, fifty
six in that community. And then you're like, okay, well,
that's not as scary as thirteen percent increase, because then
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it makes you think thirteen percent of the population has it.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Anyway, back to my point, these white supremacist institutions, they've
pushed back historically against white women having sex outside of
their race. They can do what they want the man,
of course, but white women they've done their best to
try to keep white women from doing that. And so
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these talking points about STDs and black communities or Latino
communities or whatever are very very well established, well documented
in those communities, and to hear him talking about them
as a black man is very embarrassing. And again, just
because he made a good point once upon a time
in a social media video doesn't mean this guy knows
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what he's talking about across the board. So take everything
with a grain of salt.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Please.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
For today's last story, it appears that a well defined
connection between President elect Donald Trump and the controversial Project
twenty twenty five agenda has finally surfaced, even though Trump
campaigned on not.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Being associated with the document. Doug, let's hear more about
the story from you, and then Esther will come to
you to close us out.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Sure you know, Elect Donald Trump always distanced himself from
Project twenty twenty five. However, many of his proposed policies
are much like those in Project twenty twenty five, such
as reducing the size of the federal government. First off,
revamping immigration environmental policies. Trump wants to repeal the Affordable
Care Act. We know that he wants to cut MEDICI.
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Project twenty twenty five calls to defund the Department of Education.
He wants to do that. He wants to knock out
DEI programs. That's in Project twenty twenty five. There's a
criminal justice system. Well, I should say, then there's a
criminal justice So he wants to give officers immunity from prosecution,
so they can pretty much do whatever they you want
without fear of being charged or.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Losing their jobs.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Project twenty twenty five plans to weaken anti discrimination laws,
god affirmative action, as I said, and remove a lot
of power from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. And I'm
wondering how he'll approach the EPA's Office of Environmental Justice
and Civil Rights that was formed under Biden administration. You know,
pollution continues to be a major problem in black communities,
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particularly those in the southern rural communities. You know, respiratory issues,
heart disease, other conditions, lead and water, you know, high
levels of air pollution. This stuff affects us and affects
our future. And you know, I'm just really concerned about
that because you know, that department continues to do some
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great work, great work, Yeah, yeah, esther your final thoughts, Well.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
It's becoming quite clear what many people have been warning
about before the election. It's true about Project twenty twenty
five being a playbook for Trump. From conversations I've had
with various individuals, it looks like that he's making moves
to undermine and remove civil rights protections. South Carolina black Congressman,
Black Black Congressman James Clyburn, he called a second Trump presidency.
(29:29):
Jim Crow two point zero and Cliburn just recently introduced
the renewal of the African American Civil Rights Network Act.
And it was a year and a half before Rosa
Parks refused to give up her seat on the bus
in Montgomery, Alabama. Woman by the name of Sarah May
Fleming did the same thing in Columbia, South Carolina, and
she sued and the Supreme Court ruled that she was
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entitled to sit on any seat on the bus. That
was a crucial part of the Civil Rights Act of
nineteen sixty four, which prevents segregation. ABC fifteen News reports
that come January twenty twenty five that at sunsets it
will no longer be in play. So he's trying to
reintroduce it so that it will still be in play,
(30:14):
so that Trump doesn't move forward in making legal moves
to remove the civil rights laws so he can fulfill
his promises. Of some of those promises, including what Doug
was talking about the Department of Education. I've kind of
been really harping on that. And he wants to punish
any schools who do not follow his brand of education,
and that includes using his brand of make America great,
(30:37):
burst bibles and removing historical curriculum that doesn't meet his
standard of approval. And this could mean making federal funding
just to flow through school vouchers and pushing school choice.
You know, I'm all for school choice, but if it
undermines the foundation of education for people who are economically disadvantaged,
I'm not for it. This could mean getting public schools
(30:58):
funding or cutting I should say public school funding at
that is needed to pay for teachers and outside contractors
and all those things that many students need, especially students
who have disabilities.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Well, uh yeah, it's bleak.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
One of the things about you know, I was definitely
surprised when Donald Trump won that election. I was surprised
when the Republicans won the House, and obviously the Supreme
Court nominees. That was something that we saw on the horizon.
(31:42):
But the things that Donald Trump is doing right now,
they don't surprise me. Because Q and myself we were
so well versed in Project twenty twenty five that we
knew that this was coming. And so again we battened
down the hatches. And so far as education is concerned,
it's now on us to teach our children we are,
where we come from, and how to advance a collective agenda.
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So I believe in our capacity to do that, even
though I don't believe in this country's capacity to do that.
So if nothing else that we can stand on that
we can buy our own books, keep them in our
own houses, we can teach our own children. I certainly
believe that that's true, and it is true at my home.
So some more food for thought there, and with that
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we'll leave it right there. I'd like to thank you
both as always for your time and your insight. Once again,
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Esther Dillard, Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
What's the latest and greatest in your life?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Oh, just taking it.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Through, you know, dealing with the fallout of the election
and what's happening and some people, you know, we're very
sad and disappointed, and I understand that.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
So I'm just taking it day by day.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It starts, Doug, tell me something good man, Well, we're alive,
We're here.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Hey, that's a start. I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Just to echo off of Esther's comment, Yeah, I mean,
you know, just kind of preparing for what's about to
happen in the year with some of these policies, and
so so really good, very excited about getting into the
content of this conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Sure, sure, Well, to your point, things have started already.
There have been some rumblings, and as you mentioned, it's
time for us to share. So I won't hold you
any longer. President elect Donald Trump continues to dominate the
news headlines with controversial cabinet picks and statements about his plans.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
On key political issues.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Earlier this week, he reaffirmed his plans on immigration policy,
and his comments have many folks feeling uncomfortable. Esther, let's
get started with you. Tell us more about this story,
and then, Doug, we'll get your reaction next well.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Trump has promised on day one that he's going to
launch the largest largest deportation program in American history. According
to ABC News, Trump plans to declare a national emergency
to carry out plans of a mass deportation of migrants
living in the US without legal permission. Reports are that
he plans to use part of the Department of Defense
(01:59):
military pudget to pay for all of this. He's currently
tapped former acting ICE Director Tom Homan as the borders
are and right now. The military does help at the border,
but we've never seen anything like this. This could cousse
some legal problems, but where is Trump plans to declare
executive order to get around those legal problems. During a
(02:20):
recent rally at Madison Square Garden, Trump said quote, I
will rescue every city and town that has been invaded
and conquered, and I will put those vicious, at bloodthirsty
criminals in jail, then kick the hell out of and
kick them the hell out of our country as fast
as possible end quote, and that I'll get there, all right.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
It is a bleak doug in regards to Trump and
is soon to be deportation efforts. I've heard reports that
the initiative, like you know, could cost billions of dollars,
and like money could be coming from the DoD Los
Angeles recently passed and ordnance against deportations, so they're now
(03:02):
a sanctuary city. But actually there have been a sectuary city.
California as a state has already safeguards in place for that.
But but for the most part, you know, the ordinance
prohibits the use of city resources for immigration enforcement and
prevent city departments from sharing information of undocumented immigrants with
federal immigration authorities.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Now there are exceptions.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
President elect Trump says he's going to first go after
these immigrants who have criminal pass and that's one of
the exceptions that you know, Ice apparently can come in
to California communities to you know, try to find those
who you know, those legal immigrants who have you know,
criminal pass In relation to his controversial cabinet picks, you know,
(03:49):
there's one particular pick that is really concerning me, and
his name is Pete Hesith. Apparently he's his pick for
the secret Hurry of Defense. And he has a tattoo
inked on his inner bicep that says deuced vault, which
is a phrase on the tattoo which means God wills it.
(04:10):
It's associated with Crusades and white extremist groups. The phrase
has been adopted by the Proud Boys and the group
Identity ev Ropa.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Now, if he is a line with some of.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
These ideologies of these groups, how will his decision, you know,
if he does get to be the head, you know,
how will his decisions affect our relationships with Israel the
Middle East? You know, what will be the consequences surrounding
those decisions, you know, militarily the Proud Boys and the
other group, they have openly expressed their anti Semitic views.
(04:42):
The Proud Boys have shown support for Russia and Vladimir Putin. So, yeah,
you know, Trump, these guys are really playing some chess
right here, you know.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
So we really have to stay aware.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Uh, this is really something to think about with this
guy possibly you know, leading the DoD.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, I think that you're absolutely right. This is so
complicated and so much of a departure, not just from
the norm but even from Trump's first presidency. I want
to make an optimistic prediction, and that is that, you know,
(05:20):
he might do some sort of performative deportation something like that,
just to kind of satisfy and.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Satiate the voter base that he's sort of whipped up.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But I don't imagine that he's going to be able
to get everything off the way that he's positioning himself.
And I don't know that he really wants that. He
might say that he might have campaigned on that, but
I remember him saying that he wanted to tank the
border bill so that he could campaign on a weak border.
(06:01):
I know that the first time he ran he ran on,
you know, let's build that wall and get Mexico to
pay for it. But outside of building a couple of
sections of wall, there is no wall to speak of, right,
And so it's these things that makes me feel like
these are just the performative aspects. And again it's an
(06:23):
optimistic prediction. I'll admit that I'll see that entirely, but
I think more importantly the consequences of him whipping up
this fear and stirring up this fear, the real world
implications of that are felt in places like where I live,
you know, in a border state where this for folks
(06:47):
that don't know a lot about this part of the country,
this used to be Mexico. Before it was the United States,
it was Mexico. And so the people that live here
like this being their ancestral home, are Mexican people. And
a lot of those Mexican people had family going all
the way far south, you know, Mexican or sorry, Arizona
(07:09):
is one of the newer states admitted to the United
States of America. Or rather, Arizona is one of the
newer states admitted to the United States of America. And
so there are people here with very strong connections to Mexico.
Family from Mexico. There are people that go back and
forth across the border. That's what you do here, that's
what you do in Texas, that's what you do in
New Mexico. That's what you do in southern California. And
(07:33):
this idea that Donald Trump and his extreme views on
Mexican people. Let's be honest. On the ground, it's a
very scary feeling, and it's very tense here, and so
a lot of people are kind of bracing for what.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
May come.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You know, a lot of people's predictions aren't as optimistic
as mine. But I'm hoping that right, and he's just gonna,
you know, do some performative stuff, deport a couple of
people who are indeed bad actors, and you know, spend
the next the subsequent three and a half years, you know,
(08:14):
running the circus like you did the first time. That's
my hope at least, So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Ironic though, that the a lot of those who identified
themselves as Latino.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Voted Yet, no, you're not wrong, and this is a
point that I've had to make before. So yes, there
are a lot of Latinos who feel closer to white
than they do to.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Minority.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Somehow, they feel like that's that's successible, that's that's that's
a reality in which they can live. And you see
that their interests align with you know, the interest of indeed,
a white supremacist, a person who says, no, these people
are bad, We're good, even if we're made from the
(09:09):
same genetic materials.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's very odd.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But you understand that colorism plays into that because a
lot of Mexican people can be very fair skin even
though they speak Spanish, they're from Mexico, their families from Mexico,
they identify as Mexican, so forth, and so on. But
I want to make sure that our listeners know because
I do believe in brothers, brotherhood and sisterhood. I believe
(09:35):
in fellowship. I believe that we are stronger together. I
want to remind everyone that most Latinos men and women
did not vote for Donald Trump presidency. Most of them
did not vote for that. I think the lowest number
that we had was something like which is the majority
(09:57):
that voted indeed for Kamala Harris, and then there were
some for independence and the rest for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So that is still a majority.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
So to just paint everyone with that same brushstroke, I
think would be unfair and I think that it misses
the mark in terms of how we can have meaningful conversations.
If we do need to have those conversations with our
(10:26):
Latino brothers and sisters who may have cast a vote
for Donald Trump, because again, a lot of them can
get lost in the sauce thinking, hey, Trump presidency could
be really good for me, and yeah, those immigrants down there,
you know, they didn't do it the way I did
it or my grandma did it or whatever, and they
can really distance themselves from, indeed, the consequences of a
Trump presidency and the effects of you know, white supremacy
(10:50):
throughout this country.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So bood for thought up next.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
C SPAN's Washington Journal program received some unwelcome publicity when
a publican viewer called into the show, Doug, this time,
we're going to start with you, give some details on
the story, and then Esther. Of course, we're going to
come to you in next for your thoughts.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
This was alarming.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
On a recent episode of See Spance Washington Journal, a
Republican viewer called into the show during the open forum
segment reade some pretty racist comments. During the November seventeenth episode,
the caller, goes by the name of Rick, had the
nerve to say that quote, colored people wouldn't have basketball
if it were not for the abolishment of slavery. I
shouldn't buy former President Abraham Lincoln. Of course, Abraham Lincoln
(11:30):
is a I was a Republican. And then he went
on to rant about why he doesn't understand why black
people don't like president like Trump, saying that black people
should remember who sets you off.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Free, you know.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
And then here's a kicker, he said, you know, quote,
can't they think back to their ancestors times when British
and stuff was coming over to them and you know,
and then he brought in, you know, a topic of
gender role issues, stating that women should just do all
the cleaning and men should either old or their household.
Wraps up the call by saying that there's going to
(12:03):
be some bad weather in the South and that Democrats
should repent before the storm's hits. I was really kind
of shocked that they allowed that caller to get through,
but hey, you know, it's what happened. And you know,
his sentiments are among many white Republicans.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
In my opinion, he just had the nerve to say it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
You know, it's crazy too.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
If I can, if I.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Can add this, you know, this is somewhat of an
argument that I always have with black Republicans, you know,
and you know, you know, if we go back during
those times, you know, the Republican Party was more of
a progressive party, mainly centered in the North where the
Democrats known as the Dixie Democrats in the nineteen hundreds,
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you know, they were the.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Power structure of slavery, you know. And so.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
I don't want to get too deep into the conversation,
but you know the argument that I have and is,
at some point I believe there was a flip a switch.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Oh yeah, that was around the Great Depression.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
He's, well, yeah, great Depression too, right, there was a
flip and then we left, you know, the Republican Party,
and the Dixie Democrats went over to the Republicans.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
You know what I'm saying. So you know what he's
talking about.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
I don't think he really knows his history, but he
made a point and it made a lot of noise.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So I was going to say that in terms of
that caller, what surprised me was not that he got through,
but that he had so much time to get off,
so much ignorance.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It was.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It was astounding. But I just wanted to plug that
in there. I didn't mean to cut you out, esther.
Let's get your thoughts here.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Well, a quote from Albert Einstein, the only thing more
dangerous than ignorance is arrogance.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
First, let's address the colored people term.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
It's twenty twenty four words matter, and that term is
dusty as his understanding of history.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Respect goes a long way, so let's start there.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Then now there's this idea that black folks should be
eternally grateful to Republicans for setting them free. Yes, Lincoln
signed the Emancipation Proclamation, but freedom wasn't a gift. It
was a hard fought demand, enslaved people who resisted rebelled
persists long before Lincoln put that to paper. So and
then there's a claim that Lincoln's legacy somehow granted people
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black people basketball. Black folks were inventing, building and excelling
long before hoops came into play, and they'll continue to
do so without this guy's approval or folks like him.
And finally, my words are I feel like these words
that he gave out were extremely abusive. The idea that
abuse is somehow justified, that people should endure it because
(14:51):
someone did this in the past, had somehow gave them
a supposed favor. That's not gratitude, that's gas lighting. Black
Americans shouldn't owe anyone their silence or their submission or
their servitude. They deserve as respect, equity, opportunity, And I
(15:12):
guess that's.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Where I'll leave it.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, I think your point is well made.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
There's I think gaslighting is a is a great way
to put it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
For this viewer, I don't know if he's I don't
I don't like how this is going to sound. But
I don't know if he's intelligent enough to think strategically
and in that way. But I certainly know what you
mean in terms of like higher levels of government or
or you know, political pundits or so forth, to using
gas lighting as a tactic on black and brown communities.
(15:51):
But in terms of this caller, Doug, I think that
you mentioned it that this is something that we see
quite a bit for from people who would cast their
vote for Donald Trump. This is one of the things
that allows them to distance themselves from you know, how
does this affect other people? They don't know what's best
(16:15):
for them. I do, I'm going to vote this way.
They clearly can't see that Donald Trump is a Republican
and Abraham Lincoln is a Republican. Why don't they vote Republican?
It's the weirdest thing to me. Right, So it's a
combination of mental gymnastics because they need to know that
they're good people. They don't want to be racist themselves.
(16:37):
Even though you know, like we could look at this
individual caller and say, Okay, he's probably got some strong
racist tendencies and racist roots. He's firing off with the
colored people. It just shows that he's not He's from
an old school, you know, way of thinking, and a
lot of old school thinking, especially for white people in
this country, you know, judging from his accident is probably
somewhere in the South. It's based in racism. That's just
(16:58):
kind of the environment they grew up in. But yeah,
it's a combination of you know, mental gymnastics or ignorance.
And I think that he he was more of the
ignorant sort than the mental gymnastics sort because of everything
that he said.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
He didn't really have to jump that far.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You know, as I mentioned, he's his thinking is, well,
if Abraham Lincoln is a Republican and Donald Trump is
a Republican, you know, why don't why don't you continue.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
To vote Republican?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Republicans have done more for black people than anyone without Republicans.
You wouldn't even be playing basketball, right, and and it's
it's stupid, and it's it's you can tell he's not
a smart person. But I'm assuming, I'm assuming for the
sake of this conversation that he means well, and he's
just confused. And I think that I say all this
to say that education is critically important, you know, not
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just for black people and black children, for us to
know where we come from, why we are where we are,
and what we need to do to advance our collective agenda.
But it's also important for white people. And this is
the other side of that coin. When you know, things
like critical race theory, things like American history, the fullness
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of American history are taken out of schools because you know,
a whitewashed, sanitized version of American politics will yield this
result right here of this man saying, well, I mean
it's as simple as one, two three. Clearly black people
are either ignorant or they just feel like they're like,
(18:38):
what is it, masochists or sadists or whatever the word
is when you like to do harmful things to yourself.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And so again that allows him.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
A further degree of insulation from the real goings on
the ground, probably doesn't know any Black people. If he does,
they might see the world way that he does because
they might not be educated.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And we're in this.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Cycle where these people have to vote, and because the
world is a lot simpler to them, they vote and
think that everybody else is less intelligent and less informed
than they are. And rather than questioning, why did seventy
I think it was seventy two percent of black men
ninety two percent of black women vote for Kamala Harris?
Those those are huge numbers. Are all of them wrong?
(19:28):
Or is there something there? Rather than think of it
critically like that, it's really easy for him to say, well,
I mean, I just don't understand. They wouldn't even have basketball,
you know. And we're here talking about him. Black Information
Network News anchors Esther Dillard and Doug Davis are here
with us discussing this week's major stories. All Right, Black
(19:50):
social media personality Charleston White recently disrupted a city council
meeting in Texas by stating a variety of inappropriate race
based comments that have since gone viral. Esther, let's get
back to you for this one. Share it with our
listeners more about Charleston City council address, and then Doug,
we're going to give you a chance to weigh next.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Well, there's footage of Charleston White being kicked out of
the city council meeting for claiming black people spread STDs
in white neighborhoods.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You've got video that went viral.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Five Magazine reports that he went there warning black people
are invading predominantly white neighborhoods spreading sexually transmitted diseases, and
one of the council members pretty much said stop using
inappropriate language.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
He did not and was removed.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I looked at the short clip and it was posted
on ViBe's website, and the man basically used religion and
God and biblical reference as the reason for saying this
in front of the council. And I always suspect when
I see something like this that perhaps he was paid
for doing this, but you know, there's no evidence of
that right now.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It was very bizarre. It played into repeating a lot.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Of the racist stereotypes that we've seen over the years
that have been repeated about black people. It just was
surprising likely for many to hear it come from from
the mouth of a black person.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
M doug, let's get your thoughts here.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I mean, if you listen to his opening remarks, he
said he's not a civil man.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
That's likely one of the first words that came out
of his mouth.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Well, look, Charleston is a social media influence, so let's
be real. He's known for making controversial statements, particularly regarding
black people, and he's got millions of followers.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Some of my best.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Friend, my best male friends, who are on social media,
they follow him, and you know, and they like his content,
and a lot of us have come across his content.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
So when the story dropped, you know, much like Esher.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Said, I was hurt that a black person, particularly black man,
would say such negative things about us in that fashion
in a dignified setting. And he liked President elect Trump
knows that controversy sales period, you know, and it makes
me reflect on the country. Are we pleasure junkies here? Like,
is there something happening with our neuro transmitters when we
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casually taken this type of stuff?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Do we find this amusing?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
You know, look at all the free press that he's
getting from this, you know, like why even advertise just
say something crazy? And you know, I'm sure he's probably
planning a tour soon. So again disappointed. But I will
say that after searching through some videos on YouTube, he
has been quite vocal at council meetings for a few years,
(22:34):
and I don't know if some of those things that
are on YouTube kind of help spark, you know, his
popularity on platforms like TikTok.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
But yeah, again, very disappointing.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, and I can see that he's.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
A I'm not a fan of his, but I see
how people could be because he he has a couple
of videos that have gone viral of him making some
really good points. And I think that the combination of
making a good point, or maybe not even making a
(23:11):
good point, but providing a good perspective while making a
point right something that affirms your belief or challenges your
belief in a way that is meaningful, that can cause
you to become somewhat of an authority figure in the
(23:33):
minds of the masses. And just because you have good
opinions on how to dress or haircuts or whatever, dating
tips or whatever it is that his earlier viral clips
were about, doesn't mean that your advice is good. Across
(23:55):
the board, I think that, you know, he shows his weaknesses.
This isn't the first time he's been in the headlines
for saying something kind of just unpopular. And yeah, you know,
to both of your points, he could be doing this
because it's a strategy. He's a showman, he's trying to
(24:18):
get engagement or whatever. But also, I think that some
of the responsibilities on us, the public. And I'm not
going to just blame us, because algorithms serve us what
they think that we will want, and so there's a
degree of us like consuming it, and there's a degree
of us not having a choice in what we consume
because the algorithm has.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Picked it for us.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
But the fact is is that for him to even
be in this position, we need to know that, you know,
just because a person has made a good point in
the past, doesn't mean that everything that they say is
going to be valid based in truth, factual. Indeed, some
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of it is delusional and some of it is racist.
These are racist talking points that he's that he's sharing now.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
That is that was true when I remember when I
was younger, I saw when Kobe Bryant got caught up
in that sexual assault case in Colorado, that in that town,
the ku Klux Klan distributed flyers.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
This is how long ago that was.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
They distributed flyers saying don't have sex with black people
because black people have aids, right.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And this is based in very a small amount of truth.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
There are some things that disproportionately affect you know, marginalized
communities because of the fact that information does not penetrate
as well in black and brown communities, and the resources
aren't readily available like they are in white communities. But
the numbers are so small overall that you can sensationalize
(26:01):
them by saying there's a thirteen percent higher you know,
infection rate over here than there is over there. Meanwhile,
the cases go from like fifty to fifty six in
the city, fifty six, fifty cases in this community, fifty
six in that community. And then you're like, okay, well,
that's not as scary as thirteen percent increase, because then
(26:23):
it makes you think thirteen percent of the population has it.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Anyway, back to my point, these white supremacist institutions, they've
pushed back historically against white women having sex outside of
their race. They can do what they want the man,
of course, but white women they've done their best to
try to keep white women from doing that. And so
(26:48):
these talking points about STDs and black communities or Latino
communities or whatever are very very well established, well documented
in those communities, and to hear him talking about them
as a black man is very embarrassing. And again, just
because he made a good point once upon a time
in a social media video doesn't mean this guy knows
(27:08):
what he's talking about across the board. So take everything
with a grain of salt.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Please.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
For today's last story, it appears that a well defined
connection between President elect Donald Trump and the controversial Project
twenty twenty five agenda has finally surfaced, even though Trump
campaigned on not.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Being associated with the document. Doug, let's hear more about
the story from you, and then Esther will come to
you to close us out.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Sure you know, Elect Donald Trump always distanced himself from
Project twenty twenty five. However, many of his proposed policies
are much like those in Project twenty twenty five, such
as reducing the size of the federal government. First off,
revamping immigration environmental policies. Trump wants to repeal the Affordable
Care Act. We know that he wants to cut MEDICI.
(27:54):
Project twenty twenty five calls to defund the Department of Education.
He wants to do that. He wants to knock out
DEI programs. That's in Project twenty twenty five. There's a
criminal justice system. Well, I should say, then there's a
criminal justice So he wants to give officers immunity from prosecution,
so they can pretty much do whatever they you want
without fear of being charged or.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Losing their jobs.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Project twenty twenty five plans to weaken anti discrimination laws,
god affirmative action, as I said, and remove a lot
of power from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. And I'm
wondering how he'll approach the EPA's Office of Environmental Justice
and Civil Rights that was formed under Biden administration. You know,
pollution continues to be a major problem in black communities,
(28:38):
particularly those in the southern rural communities. You know, respiratory issues,
heart disease, other conditions, lead and water, you know, high
levels of air pollution. This stuff affects us and affects
our future. And you know, I'm just really concerned about
that because you know, that department continues to do some
(29:00):
great work, great work, Yeah, yeah, esther your final thoughts, Well.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
It's becoming quite clear what many people have been warning
about before the election. It's true about Project twenty twenty
five being a playbook for Trump. From conversations I've had
with various individuals, it looks like that he's making moves
to undermine and remove civil rights protections. South Carolina black Congressman,
Black Black Congressman James Clyburn, he called a second Trump presidency.
(29:29):
Jim Crow two point zero and Cliburn just recently introduced
the renewal of the African American Civil Rights Network Act.
And it was a year and a half before Rosa
Parks refused to give up her seat on the bus
in Montgomery, Alabama. Woman by the name of Sarah May
Fleming did the same thing in Columbia, South Carolina, and
she sued and the Supreme Court ruled that she was
(29:52):
entitled to sit on any seat on the bus. That
was a crucial part of the Civil Rights Act of
nineteen sixty four, which prevents segregation. ABC fifteen News reports
that come January twenty twenty five that at sunsets it
will no longer be in play. So he's trying to
reintroduce it so that it will still be in play,
(30:14):
so that Trump doesn't move forward in making legal moves
to remove the civil rights laws so he can fulfill
his promises. Of some of those promises, including what Doug
was talking about the Department of Education. I've kind of
been really harping on that. And he wants to punish
any schools who do not follow his brand of education,
and that includes using his brand of make America great,
(30:37):
burst bibles and removing historical curriculum that doesn't meet his
standard of approval. And this could mean making federal funding
just to flow through school vouchers and pushing school choice.
You know, I'm all for school choice, but if it
undermines the foundation of education for people who are economically disadvantaged,
I'm not for it. This could mean getting public schools
(30:58):
funding or cutting I should say public school funding at
that is needed to pay for teachers and outside contractors
and all those things that many students need, especially students
who have disabilities.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Well, uh yeah, it's bleak.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
One of the things about you know, I was definitely
surprised when Donald Trump won that election. I was surprised
when the Republicans won the House, and obviously the Supreme
Court nominees. That was something that we saw on the horizon.
(31:42):
But the things that Donald Trump is doing right now,
they don't surprise me. Because Q and myself we were
so well versed in Project twenty twenty five that we
knew that this was coming. And so again we battened
down the hatches. And so far as education is concerned,
it's now on us to teach our children we are,
where we come from, and how to advance a collective agenda.
(32:05):
So I believe in our capacity to do that, even
though I don't believe in this country's capacity to do that.
So if nothing else that we can stand on that
we can buy our own books, keep them in our
own houses, we can teach our own children. I certainly
believe that that's true, and it is true at my home.
So some more food for thought there, and with that
(32:27):
we'll leave it right there. I'd like to thank you
both as always for your time and your insight. Once again,
Today's guests or Black Information Network News anchors Esther Dillard
and Doug Davis. This has been a production of the
Black Information Network. Today's show is produced by Chris Thompson.
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