May 13, 2026 • 42 mins
Jenifer Cleveland posted on social media: "The Luxe Medspa by Amber Johnson will definitely make you look and feel beautiful!" 24 hours after posting that, Jenifer Cleveland was dead, cardiac arrest at the Luxe Medspa and Amber Johnson is now charged with Felony Murder. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the business of "The Luxe Medspa by Amber Johnson" - and what went wrong the day Jenifer died.
Host - Joseph Scott Morgan
Co-Host - Dave Mack
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00:01.82 Introduction - Fountain of youth
05:12.31 Death at a medispa
10:10.23 Krispy Kreme donuts
15:31.58 Promise of youthful look
20:17.72 Medical Director
25:10.84 Fluids must be watched
30:16.98 IV Cocktail delivered too fast
35:09.27 The charges
40:13.04 Having a "spa day"
42:01.03 Conclusion
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Quody bus with Joseph's gotten more for my money. There's
one place in particular in Florida that has a certain
beauty to it that's unlike the rest of Florida. I'll
tell you why, because it is the site of the
(00:24):
first European settlement and what we now know as America.
It's Saint Augustine saying Augustine Florida. If you've never been there,
I encourage you to go, just for the history. It's
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kind of frozen in tom I know some of us
a little bit touristy, but just gorgeous. There's somebody that
showed up there way back when, in the fifteen hundreds,
actually fifteen thirteen if we're being exacting, and of course
it's the famous explorer Jue paste Leon. Now, the legend
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always had it that he was showing up there because
he was in search of the fountain, so called Fountain
of Youth, and there is a spring there that is
associated with that. But you and I both know that
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that was not his purpose there. Like other Spanish conquista doors,
he was there looking for gold, trying to find it
wherever it was hidden, if it was with the native
population or you know, laying in huge mounds like Scrooge McDuck,
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he was trying to find it. Well, of course they
never did. There are still people out there that are
looking for the fountain of youth, and unfortunately, many of
those people can be had by people that are still
(02:15):
looking for gold coin that they can put in their
pockets and enrich themselves. Today, on Bodybags, we're going to
talk about someone that perhaps was in search of the
fountain of youth and an organization that, it would seem
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at least may by their own practices, have led to
this individual's demise. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is
body Bags. Dave Brother, Dave, guess what, here's an epiphotal
(02:58):
moment for you and I both. You can't stop time,
you can't do it. I've thought about it, and I
got to tell you, I'm just kind of I'm I'm
on the I'm on the journey, dude. I'm enjoying myself.
I really am. When I see my grandbabies, when I
see my kids, when I see my beautiful wife, I
(03:20):
understand that I have this one snapshot in tom this
is all I'm going to have. I can't turn it back.
There's no way. And anytime I see somebody that is
advertising something that says, we can make you look useful,
we can add years to your life. I think that
(03:42):
people have been selling the snake oil for a long
long time. There's you know, what's the old saying, and
it often comes up on body bags. There's nothing new
under the sun, correct, Joe.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The thing that people are really looking for is I
think this is personal, just my take. I looking less
about looking more youthful, but it's looking for peace and
happiness and joy that don't come in those material things. Money, power, youthful, appearance.
Those things mean are They're all fleeting, They're all nothing.
(04:17):
How you look on the outside has nothing to do
with who you are. But I think a lot of
times because we don't fix our insides, you know, we
think I'll just do this, and that's how I look
at it. But I look at soup celebrities who have
gone just use the facelift, you know, the time honored facelift.
And I think about Kenny Rodgers and how you know,
(04:38):
he's a bearded guy. You only see a third of
his face anyway, and he gets it and has this
facelift and he regretted it because it just and I'm thinking,
if somebody with that kind of money gets a bad facelift,
what does that say about you and me? How this
is hit and miss Burt Renalds same way you look
at him, you're going before and after, really Bert, you know,
and then look at Clint Eastwood. He hasn't bothered with that,
(05:01):
and he keeps on trucking. So look, man, I have
what we're going to talk about today is death out
of Metaspa. Okay, and in radio for many, many years
doing morning shows where we endorse products and things like that.
In particular, you have your morning show. Back in the
(05:21):
day when people used to listen to radio, you would
have sponsors and I'll use one, yeah, because I don't
know if it's around anymore, but they would have names
like metafit and it would be lose weight without exercise. Now,
who doesn't want the Krispy Kreme diet. Ida doesn't donuts
(05:43):
and lose weight? You know, Hey, buddy, sign me up
the Hollywood Diet, the twenty four Hour Diet. I will
tell you that having done these, yes, there are programs
that work, usually not the way you think, but in
radio they would come to us and because it was radio,
(06:04):
people have a face for radio, right, you don't end
up on TV. There's a reason for this. And so
they would come and talk to your fat partner or
you or both of you and try to get them
and it's like, well, I can't endorse your product until
I use it, so well, that's part of the bargain.
We want you to endorse this product. Boom. And usually
it was a salesperson that came in with it, because hey,
(06:27):
they're seeing the advertising. This person's going to pay us,
you know, three thousand dollars a month for you to
endorse their product. Well, dude, I'm not going to endorse
it unless it works on me. Fair enough, Here you go,
and that's how them and then they pay for that endorsement.
By the way, if you if you work for a
good you know the story we're doing today. The first
thing I noticed, Joe, first of all, it was one
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of these metaspaus and it was one of these things
that offers making you look rolling back the hands of time.
And our victim today is a name. Her name is
Jennifer Cleveland. Jennifer is forty seven years old. She was
an account executive salesperson for a local radio station in Texas,
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and Jennifer or Jennifer died July tenth, twenty twenty three.
The date is important because on July ninth, twenty twenty three,
Jennifer Cleveland wrote this on social media, The luxe Medspa
(07:29):
by Amber Johnson will definitely make you look and feel beautiful.
She posted that across all of our social media. Radio
sales girl. You know, she was dead the next day
from Amber Johnson. Allegedly, Jamber Johnson is accused of this
show of killing her to this medspot thing. Today, we're
(07:52):
going to explore this medspa journey. You talked about the
Fountain of Youth. I'm so glad you mentioned that to
start this show because outward appearance, you know, we're so
fixated on it. We're so fixated on what we look like.
And I get it. You want to do things to
make you feel comfortable and confident. A lot of times,
as we get older, when we begin to come at
(08:14):
peace with ourselves and our relationships and things, we do
want to make ourselves look better.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I got no problem with it.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I try to shave every day, I try to comb
my hair every day. I mean, but you know, when
it gets right down to it, I got two choices
every night, Joe. Every every night I get in bed
and I'm thinking, you know, Dave, you need to lose
about twenty five pounds. Yeah, but you really like to
eat this ice cream every night right when you get
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and so I know, Joe, if I could eat ice
cream and then going to sleep five minutes later, I
could lose the weight. And every night I think about that,
I'm like, well, what's more important? You know, I'd rather
have the ice cream?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
No, I mean you had me. You had me at
the Krispy Kream diet. Oh yeah, that's you know, because
that's one of the things that you know I'm thinking about,
you know, because my lord, I know that it's not
good for me, and there's so many things that are
not good for you. But boy, the pleasure and the
joy of that every now and then, you know, when
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you have one of those hot I'm like, I'm like
a child when I go into and look, Chrispy Kreme
is not paying me for saying this, right, talk about sponsorship,
but I do you know, if you if you've never
been to one where they make the donuts. It's literally
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you go up to a glass and you can press
your face in and you can watch these things come
out of the fryar get on the conveyor belt and
that glaze is dropped over there, and you're watching them
all along and you're saying and the one thing you
say when you get up, you always ask them do
you have hot fresh now? And if you say you
(09:56):
have hot fresh now, I don't want the ones that
are in the in the in the cabinet down here.
I want the ones that are coming off the line.
And one of the beauty things. They have these little
straws that they use. They walk over and with the
straw and they pick these things up as they've come
off the line and freshly glazed, and they're dropping them
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in a box. And when you hold the box, the
heat is still radiating off of this thing. And when
you I know, it literally melts in your mouth. So
hang on, can we pause? And like? But no, I
mean you think about that, and you think about there
are as we know, Dave, there are no shortcuts in life, right,
(10:43):
there is no way to go out and look, I'm
all for people doing self improvement and all these sorts
of things. But it comes down to this, what price
is anyone willing to pay? Particularly when you're taught talking
about something like a storefront kind of organization. Perhaps that
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says that they have a medical director and that this
is all all safe.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And I'm glad you said that, Joe.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So yeah, because if you know what.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
If Joe Scott Morgan's wife, if Kimmy and I wanted
to open up a medical spa and call it, you know,
Kimmy's medical spa, and we offer different treatments and things
that were invasive or or an iv treatment of some type, right,
we would need a medical doctor to serve as our
what'd you call him? Well, it's a medical director medical director, Okay.
(11:42):
A medical director implies that this medical director is overseeing
the medical operations taking place. Ye inside, that medical director
could be on fifty That individual could be the medical
director for fifty different storefront METASPA type places.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Now I say, hey, you know, you want to know
another shocking fact about medical directors. And this is one
of those dirty little secrets that you never hear about
until you're faced with it. This has nothing to do
with spas. You got a nursing home. Now you talk
about you talk about something will get your attention. Now,
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if you're a resident and a nursing home, you might
have a primary care physician, but they've got a nurse,
they've got a medical director for the whole thing. And
interestingly enough, over my course of time working at the
Medical Examiner's office, people don't see the side of working
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in medical legal death investigation. You have to go and
get with a private physician to get them to sign
the death certificate. Because you know, at the medical Examiner,
if we have somebody that rolls in, I don't know
anything about their medical history. But yet yet you have
a physician who has been prescribing this drug and this
drug and this drug and this drug. And here's one
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of the dirty little secrets about it. You go to
the private physician that has prescribed a sack full of
drugs for people, and they're like, the medical director of
this facility. Guess what, they say, I wasn't there when
they died, so I'm not going to sign the death certificate. Well, dude,
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you weren't there when they were born either, But yet
here we are you're still treating them. And it's that's
why anytime I hear the term medical director a sign
to anybody. It's just like you said, and you and
I did not talk about this beforehand. You brought up
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the fact that if you've got like a whole series
of these medical spas that are out there, this person
might be responsible. So you're telling me that you've got
a doctor on site that's it's monitoring patience because these
people are patients. You know why they're patients because now
you're doing something that is invasive, and people say it's
(14:10):
only an no, no, it's invasive. You're sticking a needle
exactly into somebody's arm, and you've got an ivy drip
that's going into their body. And in this particular case,
that trip to the SPA wound up in the worst
way possible, resulting apparently in the death of this person.
(14:50):
So Dave, let me get this straight. Jennifer Cleveland arrived
at the Luxe Mets Bah and she went there with
I don't know to get this kind of useful glow.
I guess because this is something that has been promised.
(15:14):
I guess it's I'm sure that if you could go
back and reflect over the literature, you know they're trying
to bring people in. And if what you're saying, and
I think I'm reading this right, you're talking about an
individual that works in sales for a local radio station.
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This is what's kind of chilling about this. Dave, that
person de facto in order to promote this has to
try it, kind of become a guinea pig, don't they.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
In some ways that's a great way to put it out.
There could be or it could be that in the
competitive world of sales, a business pops up and you
go and see them. You have to because you got
to explain to your sales manager who you called on
today so you stopped buying. Look let me Jennifer Cleveland,
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a beautiful forty seven year old woman, beautiful forty seven
years old.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well she's right.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
There in the target demo. Okay, July twenty twenty three.
She was the audience that this particular METASPA in Texas
was looking for as a client. And who's to say,
I don't know when if she had the treatment done
and said, wow, this is great. You know, I don't
know if she did that and then went back to
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him and said, hey, we need to get you on
the air. More people need to know about this. I'm
going to assume that, Okay, let's assume best case scenario Joe,
that she went in got this treatment and made her
feel better about herself, had more energy. Well. The treatment
that Jennifer Cleveland underwent is an iv hydration treatment at
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this medspa that they talked about. It is an infusion
that contains a mixture of and you're going to have
to break this down for us, but a mixture of
vitamins and electrolytes, specifically vitamin B complex A, sorbic acid
B twelve, and Total parental Nutrition TPN electrolytes, and the
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procedure led to a fatal cardiac event. She died because
this IVY drip was done too fast and the person
administering the drip, Joseph Scott Morgan, according to an indictment
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handed down by a grand jury, was Amber Johnson, not
the man who was the medical director of the facility.
That's a different fella. Amber Johnson is the owner of
this medspa who is charged. And just so we can
get to this, because Jennifer Cleveland died, she didn't die
on the table at the medspat. She died at the hospital.
(18:09):
They kept her heart beating. I guess or got it
being whatever happens. But Amber Johnson was indicted by a
grand jury for felony murder, felony murder, criminally negligent homicide, manslaughter,
delivery of a dangerous drug, tampering with or violating physical evidence,
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practicing medicine with no license, practicing medicine without a license.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Show. Yeah, here's here's one other little tidbit about this.
You know how we were talking about medical directors just
a moment ago. Well, the guy that's named in this
and that was named as the medical director, it's a
guy named doctor Michael Patrick Gallagher. According to what they
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are reporting, Dave, on the day that Jennifer lost her life,
you're ready for this, he was one hundred miles away. Wow,
one hundred miles away. So look, I don't know anything
about the medical background that miss Amber Johnson may or
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may not have had. I don't know what her education
level was, clinical clinical experiences. Because you know, Dave, I
don't care if you are I don't care if you're
a surgeon or if you're a nursing assistant. When you're
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talking about medicine, the practice of medicine, there is a
clinical phase for everybody where you have to have certain
experience where you go in to a clinic, you're supervised,
you are directed, you know, by people that know more
than you do, and certainly with procedures, certainly with things
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like well what do you do in the case that
you have a patient that goes into cardiac arrest? Okay,
So when we think about the day that Jennifer went
in all right, and she's having these medications, because this
is actually a prescription load that she's taken on, you
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have to have a doctor's signature on this thing to
facilitate it. Did the person that was in watchcare over her,
did she know how to respond to a cardiac arrest?
Did she understand the signs of somebody that might be
in some kind of acute failure or distress relative to
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this kind of electrolyte and balance and particularly with this
complex cocktail that is being injected into our body. Hey,
here's a question. Did did they have a crash card there? Well,
it's a crash card. Crash card is something that's utilized
to revive people. We've all seen movies, you know, where
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they bring out the paddles and you know, everybody you
know says clear, you know, and you know in order
to run and it's called running a code. In order
to run a code, there are multiple levels of certification
you have to have in order to facilitate that, all right.
And there are nurses out there, which We've got a
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lot of nurses that are friends that listen to the show,
and now I can see them shaking their heads right now,
because that journey to get certified at that level to
be able to run a code is so intense, Dave,
I can't even begin to express to you intellectually and
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clinically how difficult this process is just to make it through.
But you want it to be difficult, right, I mean
if somebody is going to be pushing drugs on you. Uh,
you know. One of the things I'm thinking about is
just like an epi injection, Uh, you know, where you're
injecting epinephrine into into an individual and you're having to
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try to understand the rhythm and you're you know, you're
reading the e KG or the lack of what may
or may not be are you getting appropriate responses and
all this I wonder at the MEDSPA and I'm using
that as a generalize you got a crash cart sitting
around there, and do you have anybody that knows how
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to use those tools there? Because this is obviously a risk.
It doesn't take a rocket sciences, you don't have to
have a degree in medicine. You can look at the
cocktail that they're putting out there and you can see
that there are certain inherent risks that come along with
subjecting people to this kind of and I'm using this
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term very very loosely, this kind of therapy, all right,
because it's supposed to be a therapeutic event and they
you've got to tell you, buddy, Jenifer Cleveland for whatever reason,
and I've got a couple of couple of things Eric
can talk about. But I don't think that she walked
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in expecting that she was not going to be walking out.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You know, the shocking part of all of this, Joe,
is that you know you're doing something that has all
the appearances of being healthy. You know, a medical director
is prescribing these medications for you to take that it's
going to replenish your body supply of whatever it needs,
and you're going to it's going to make you feel
better and stronger and younger. I mean, it's the greatest
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thing you can do. And hey, it only takes a
couple of minutes. I mean, this is really a great idea.
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
That's if you look at it.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
From do you want to feel better? Do you want
to look here? And in this case, Jennifer Cleveland overdosed
on potassium chloride allegedly provided by Johnson. I'm saying allegedly
because we have not been through court yet. According to
what we know now, Jennifer Cleveland was administered one thousand
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million of what's called an ivy cocktail.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
When I think of an IV, I'm thinking about how
I'm in the hospital and I've got an IV drip
going on, so they can administer medications that I might
need over the course of my time there, you know,
and that so they don't have to keep giving me injections,
you know. I mean, that's kind of what I think
of an IV.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah. Yeah, to a certain degree that that's accurate. And
you know, you can have a port that's in place
so that they don't have to continue to You've got
an indwelling site and injection site and they can inject that.
But with if they've hung a bag of fluids on somebody,
(25:10):
all right, those fluids in a hospital setting, in that
true therapeutic setting, we have nurses that are coming in
and they're taking care of you. For those out there
that have not have not had to go through through
the experience of being hospitalized, you haven't lived until you're
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being awakened at eleven, at two, at four, at six,
and it's because they're checking on you. You know, I
know people find that irritating. Look, I want to be irritated,
all right. I want I want a nurse because there's
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not always going to be a doctor physically there on
the floor. Now they'll have a hospit a list that's
in house, and they can run up there and do
all the stuff that they do. But I want a nurse,
you know. I want somebody who's been through nursing school.
I want somebody that has passed their nursing boards. I
want somebody that knows and understands basic basic human physiology.
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That they understand drug interactions, you know how, and particularly
I want them to understand how my body's responding. Right,
And you know, for Jennifer, she didn't have that. She
didn't have that, she was left she was left in
the hands of Amber Okay that was running the med SPA.
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She was also left in the hands of a medical
director that in this case was nowhere to be found.
(27:07):
Just so that we can set the stage here. Once
this therapy of this cocktail was administered to Jennifer, it
was within a very short period of time that she
goes in or becomes unresponsive. Now listen, I don't know
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how she, you know, was unresponsive. I don't know how
somebody like Amber Johnson. I don't know this person on
any level. I don't know anything about their medical background
and their training. I don't know how she would necessarily
define unresponsive. Are you saying that she's no longer awake
(27:55):
and alert. I mean I've had multiple over the course
of my life, multiple ivs at and hung on me
unless I was going to go into surgery. I do
not recall losing consciousness. So you have that unresponsive, you know,
you lose consciousness where you know, hello, is there anybody
(28:17):
in there? Or is it that there's no detectable signs
of life, you know, just is not rising and falling.
You're checking for uh, you know, karate pulse. You're checking
you know, for a breachial pulse. Uh, and it's your
absent there. That's that's a kind of unresponsive, right, So
(28:41):
I don't know what what it meant. Did she have
a sudden seizure while she's on the table, and following
that seizure, she just kind of goes limp.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
They can give you a timetable. I can give you
the time case.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Sure, sure, go ahead, brother.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
All right, four am. The infusion begins on Jennifer Cleveland.
Twenty seven minutes later, at eleven thirty one am, she
lost consciousness, had no pulse, collapsed gone. They had to
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rush her to the hospital and she was admitted with
cardiac arrest and was pronounced dead minutes after arriving. Joe,
I know you're going to cover this because I'm curious
when I saw the the rate of infusion, the infusion
rate recommended, you know, to not pass that TPN electrolytes,
(29:37):
the which is part of this IV cocktail. TP and
electrolytes require a slow infusion rate of eighty three to
one hundred and twenty five miliaters per hour or mL
means milli leaders right, Yes, it does per hour over
a twenty four hour period to avoid any adverse effacts.
(29:58):
And the call here is that this IV cocktail was
being administered too fast and directly caused the death of
Jennifer Cleveland. When you look at the autopsy report, can
you see how quickly something was administered. Can you see
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the results of that IV cocktail entering the bloodstream? Can
you see what all was going on?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
No, but you can. You can hazard a diagnosis based
upon a young woman, she's only in her forties, forty seven. Yeah,
and how this sudden death event came about. That's why
it's really important that as a medical legal death investigator,
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you're going to speak to all of the principles involved
in this to understand what they were actually witnessing, Like,
was there an increase in heart rate, say, for instance,
where their complaints from patient where they saying things like
I can't catch my breath, I can't breathe. You know, Uh,
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they've got a pulse, a rapid pulse that is incompatible
with life. That is, if you're actually a medical practitioner
and you understand what all of that indicates. Now, if
you're exceeding the recommended rate of this infusion, why in
the world you would do this? I have no idea. Uh,
(31:31):
why you would you know, increase the volume that that
goes beyond the accepted parameters of the so called therapy.
I don't I don't understand that because you know this
this TPN. The thing about it is it does have
true medical applications. It's a nutritional thing that's actually used.
(31:53):
That's why, like doctors can actually prescribe this. You know,
like you're deficient in certain areas, is that you need
you need kind of a boost relative to this. Well
what if you don't actually need TPN and it's given
to you, all right, But yet they're telling you that
you're going to be able to have this beautiful appearance.
(32:16):
Now it's going to make you more useful, you know,
these sorts of things. And here here's the thing about it.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Day.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
You know, in most medical therapies that you're going to
be subjected to, whether it's physical therapy, uh, a respiratory therapy,
you might receive some kind of cardiac therapy. You know
that people have to go through. You know what, brother,
most of the time they're diagnostic tests that are running
(32:46):
in advance to give the physician the picture of what
they're dealing with. Guess what they would have found with
Jennifer if they'd done diagnostics that they found at autopsy
she had audiomeglia And what does that means to han
enlarged heart? Okay? And structurally, structurally that gives you a
(33:08):
few indications that, Okay, maybe TPN or this overall therapy
was cocked up, might not be good for you because
you're also you know, part of this is like electrolyte therapy.
Electrolytes at their base, they have a big influence on
(33:30):
cardiac health, Okay, and just day to day function, just
in that area longe they serve. You know, we could
sit here all day long and go through all the
clinical applications as it applies to electrolyte therapy. All right,
but let's just focus on the heart, okay, because that's
going to give us an indication of well, if you
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have a condition like heart enlargement, all right, how is
the introduction of electric lights going to impact a patient
that has cardio meg? All right? Because cardio meg can
it can come about as a result of many things,
like some kind of hypertension that maybe I don't know,
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maybe Jennifer had not been diagnosed with high potension, all right,
But yet here she is, and she's in this therapeutic
environment again air quotes, and they're shooting this cocktail into her.
She's already got a heart problem. It really, it really
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draws into question the judgment of those individuals. I think
that's why, why, why they've really put the hammer down
in this case regarding the charges that have been brought
up against Amber and Dave. Look, I've been proudly known.
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I think it's really important for our friends to understand
what she has been charged with because it's I remembered
seeing the list and the list is like, Wow, I
can't believe this, but please go ahead.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Joe Amber Johnson was indicted by a grand jury on
the following charges felony murder, criminally negligent homicide, manslaughter, delivery
of a dangerous drug, campering with or violating physical evidence,
practicing medicine with no license. Think about this, Joe Amber
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Johnson opened this medspa with no medical license whatsoever. She's
not a nurse nothing. She has no medical license that
I can find anywhere. Texas has a law against that.
She partnered with that medical doctor to be the supervisor
of this thing. But he's one hundred miles away.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hang on, let me ask you
a question real quick. What has the you know, the
medical director been charged with.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
The medical director is a fellow by the name of
Michael Gallagher. Now, he allegedly failed to adequately supervise Johnson,
permitted her to use his medical license to obtain TPN electrolytes,
and or failed to monitor the TPN electrolyts Johnson obtained
and administered. This is according to the indictment handed down
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on Gallagher. The arrest warrant for Gallagher was executed the
day after Amber Johnson was arrested, and he his charges.
Here we go, fellony, murder, manslaughter, criminally neglig jeh homicide,
nine counts of delivery offer delivery of a dangerous drug,
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thirteen counts of practicing medicine, and violation of subtitle of
Freestone County Jail spokesperson confirmed he was released on ninety
six dollars bond the same day he was arrested.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Wow, okay, I just had to get that straight because
you know, one of the things I've run into over
the years, and here's a big reveal when it comes
to physicians many times that have been involved or see
how can I phrase this? That have okay? Well, where
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their patient has died. It's interesting they will list that
many times as a medical Are you sitting down for this, Dave?
They're listed as a medical misadventure and the doctor won't
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be charged with anything. And so I got to tell you,
I'm tip of the cap to the folks in Texas
over this, uh, you know, relative to you know, what
they're exploring here, because this is you know, again, we
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don't have anybody that has been brought to trial at
this point in time, but the fact that they are
going down this road, I guess the biggest thing. You know,
no one, no one on the face of the planet,
likes to be made an example of. I can guarantee
you that I, you know, I you know those without
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send you know, for the first stone, I've been made
an example of because decisions I've made my past. But
the things that I did didn't necessarily wind up in
somebody's you know end all right.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Hey, Joe, one thing good did come out of us.
I mean, grant, we still have to go through the
legal process here. But after Jennifer's passing, her husband really
he took it as you would expect, he said, my
wife she wanted. All my wife wanted to do was love.
That's all she wanted to do was love. And I
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thought that's a powerful thing, you know. And it led
to the state of Texas politicians upping the ante on
the laws on these things. It's called Jennifer's Law. Jennifer's
Law was signed June twentieth of last year, regulates elective
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IV therapy in Texas, requiring it to be administered only
by qualified medical professionals that would be physicians, pas apr
ns and our or our ends.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
You got to have one of those things.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
You ain't doing this, thank god.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah. Prohibits the delegation to unlicensed staff at a MEDSPA
can't say hey, you know how to do an IV,
you go ahead and do it. I'm here, I got
my license.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You have to do it.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
The doctor has to go to the nurse.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
And that that's you know, that's what this comes down to.
I don't you know, I don't want to see other families,
you know, go through this. You know what what this
family has had to go through. And look, if you
want to go to a SPA, I think it's great man.
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I mean, who doesn't want to be able to, you know,
have a SPA day. But what what does I think
the big question you have to ask yourself what does
a SPA day actually mean? Does it mean that you're
going to go in, You're going to get a relaxing massage,
you know, some kind of tending to your nails, whatever
that is. I don't like people touching my feet, but
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you know, whatever that means, you're going to get some
kind of facial exfoliation or whatever the case. Maybe it's
maybe it's you get to go sit in a steambath
and they bring you some kind of herbal tea. I'm
down with that. I'm cool with that. But you shouldn't
walk in to an establishment not being able to walk out.
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If this has taught us anything, I think that it's
important to understand that before you involve yourself in some
kind of storefront spa medical facility, make sure you know
who you're dealing with. And here's one other thing, make
sure you know what your body can handle, because it
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would appear that in this particular case, there was nothing
diagnostically done prior to this procedure, and it is a
procedure if it had been done trying to calculate the
risk and what she's going to be exposed to, she'd
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probably still be with us today. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan
and this is Bodybacks.
Quody bus with Joseph's gotten more for my money. There's
one place in particular in Florida that has a certain
beauty to it that's unlike the rest of Florida. I'll
tell you why, because it is the site of the
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first European settlement and what we now know as America.
It's Saint Augustine saying Augustine Florida. If you've never been there,
I encourage you to go, just for the history. It's
(00:45):
kind of frozen in tom I know some of us
a little bit touristy, but just gorgeous. There's somebody that
showed up there way back when, in the fifteen hundreds,
actually fifteen thirteen if we're being exacting, and of course
it's the famous explorer Jue paste Leon. Now, the legend
(01:11):
always had it that he was showing up there because
he was in search of the fountain, so called Fountain
of Youth, and there is a spring there that is
associated with that. But you and I both know that
(01:32):
that was not his purpose there. Like other Spanish conquista doors,
he was there looking for gold, trying to find it
wherever it was hidden, if it was with the native
population or you know, laying in huge mounds like Scrooge McDuck,
(01:54):
he was trying to find it. Well, of course they
never did. There are still people out there that are
looking for the fountain of youth, and unfortunately, many of
those people can be had by people that are still
(02:15):
looking for gold coin that they can put in their
pockets and enrich themselves. Today, on Bodybags, we're going to
talk about someone that perhaps was in search of the
fountain of youth and an organization that, it would seem
(02:36):
at least may by their own practices, have led to
this individual's demise. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is
body Bags. Dave Brother, Dave, guess what, here's an epiphotal
(02:58):
moment for you and I both. You can't stop time,
you can't do it. I've thought about it, and I
got to tell you, I'm just kind of I'm I'm
on the I'm on the journey, dude. I'm enjoying myself.
I really am. When I see my grandbabies, when I
see my kids, when I see my beautiful wife, I
(03:20):
understand that I have this one snapshot in tom this
is all I'm going to have. I can't turn it back.
There's no way. And anytime I see somebody that is
advertising something that says, we can make you look useful,
we can add years to your life. I think that
(03:42):
people have been selling the snake oil for a long
long time. There's you know, what's the old saying, and
it often comes up on body bags. There's nothing new
under the sun, correct, Joe.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The thing that people are really looking for is I
think this is personal, just my take. I looking less
about looking more youthful, but it's looking for peace and
happiness and joy that don't come in those material things. Money, power, youthful, appearance.
Those things mean are They're all fleeting, They're all nothing.
(04:17):
How you look on the outside has nothing to do
with who you are. But I think a lot of
times because we don't fix our insides, you know, we
think I'll just do this, and that's how I look
at it. But I look at soup celebrities who have
gone just use the facelift, you know, the time honored facelift.
And I think about Kenny Rodgers and how you know,
(04:38):
he's a bearded guy. You only see a third of
his face anyway, and he gets it and has this
facelift and he regretted it because it just and I'm thinking,
if somebody with that kind of money gets a bad facelift,
what does that say about you and me? How this
is hit and miss Burt Renalds same way you look
at him, you're going before and after, really Bert, you know,
and then look at Clint Eastwood. He hasn't bothered with that,
(05:01):
and he keeps on trucking. So look, man, I have
what we're going to talk about today is death out
of Metaspa. Okay, and in radio for many, many years
doing morning shows where we endorse products and things like that.
In particular, you have your morning show. Back in the
(05:21):
day when people used to listen to radio, you would
have sponsors and I'll use one, yeah, because I don't
know if it's around anymore, but they would have names
like metafit and it would be lose weight without exercise. Now,
who doesn't want the Krispy Kreme diet. Ida doesn't donuts
(05:43):
and lose weight? You know, Hey, buddy, sign me up
the Hollywood Diet, the twenty four Hour Diet. I will
tell you that having done these, yes, there are programs
that work, usually not the way you think, but in
radio they would come to us and because it was radio,
(06:04):
people have a face for radio, right, you don't end
up on TV. There's a reason for this. And so
they would come and talk to your fat partner or
you or both of you and try to get them
and it's like, well, I can't endorse your product until
I use it, so well, that's part of the bargain.
We want you to endorse this product. Boom. And usually
it was a salesperson that came in with it, because hey,
(06:27):
they're seeing the advertising. This person's going to pay us,
you know, three thousand dollars a month for you to
endorse their product. Well, dude, I'm not going to endorse
it unless it works on me. Fair enough, Here you go,
and that's how them and then they pay for that endorsement.
By the way, if you if you work for a
good you know the story we're doing today. The first
thing I noticed, Joe, first of all, it was one
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of these metaspaus and it was one of these things
that offers making you look rolling back the hands of time.
And our victim today is a name. Her name is
Jennifer Cleveland. Jennifer is forty seven years old. She was
an account executive salesperson for a local radio station in Texas,
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and Jennifer or Jennifer died July tenth, twenty twenty three.
The date is important because on July ninth, twenty twenty three,
Jennifer Cleveland wrote this on social media, The luxe Medspa
(07:29):
by Amber Johnson will definitely make you look and feel beautiful.
She posted that across all of our social media. Radio
sales girl. You know, she was dead the next day
from Amber Johnson. Allegedly, Jamber Johnson is accused of this
show of killing her to this medspot thing. Today, we're
(07:52):
going to explore this medspa journey. You talked about the
Fountain of Youth. I'm so glad you mentioned that to
start this show because outward appearance, you know, we're so
fixated on it. We're so fixated on what we look like.
And I get it. You want to do things to
make you feel comfortable and confident. A lot of times,
as we get older, when we begin to come at
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peace with ourselves and our relationships and things, we do
want to make ourselves look better.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I got no problem with it.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I try to shave every day, I try to comb
my hair every day. I mean, but you know, when
it gets right down to it, I got two choices
every night, Joe. Every every night I get in bed
and I'm thinking, you know, Dave, you need to lose
about twenty five pounds. Yeah, but you really like to
eat this ice cream every night right when you get
(08:42):
and so I know, Joe, if I could eat ice
cream and then going to sleep five minutes later, I
could lose the weight. And every night I think about that,
I'm like, well, what's more important? You know, I'd rather
have the ice cream?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
No, I mean you had me. You had me at
the Krispy Kream diet. Oh yeah, that's you know, because
that's one of the things that you know I'm thinking about,
you know, because my lord, I know that it's not
good for me, and there's so many things that are
not good for you. But boy, the pleasure and the
joy of that every now and then, you know, when
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you have one of those hot I'm like, I'm like
a child when I go into and look, Chrispy Kreme
is not paying me for saying this, right, talk about sponsorship,
but I do you know, if you if you've never
been to one where they make the donuts. It's literally
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you go up to a glass and you can press
your face in and you can watch these things come
out of the fryar get on the conveyor belt and
that glaze is dropped over there, and you're watching them
all along and you're saying and the one thing you
say when you get up, you always ask them do
you have hot fresh now? And if you say you
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have hot fresh now, I don't want the ones that
are in the in the in the cabinet down here.
I want the ones that are coming off the line.
And one of the beauty things. They have these little
straws that they use. They walk over and with the
straw and they pick these things up as they've come
off the line and freshly glazed, and they're dropping them
(10:17):
in a box. And when you hold the box, the
heat is still radiating off of this thing. And when
you I know, it literally melts in your mouth. So
hang on, can we pause? And like? But no, I
mean you think about that, and you think about there
are as we know, Dave, there are no shortcuts in life, right,
(10:43):
there is no way to go out and look, I'm
all for people doing self improvement and all these sorts
of things. But it comes down to this, what price
is anyone willing to pay? Particularly when you're taught talking
about something like a storefront kind of organization. Perhaps that
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says that they have a medical director and that this
is all all safe.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And I'm glad you said that, Joe.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So yeah, because if you know what.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
If Joe Scott Morgan's wife, if Kimmy and I wanted
to open up a medical spa and call it, you know,
Kimmy's medical spa, and we offer different treatments and things
that were invasive or or an iv treatment of some type, right,
we would need a medical doctor to serve as our
what'd you call him? Well, it's a medical director medical director, Okay.
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A medical director implies that this medical director is overseeing
the medical operations taking place. Ye inside, that medical director
could be on fifty That individual could be the medical
director for fifty different storefront METASPA type places.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Now I say, hey, you know, you want to know
another shocking fact about medical directors. And this is one
of those dirty little secrets that you never hear about
until you're faced with it. This has nothing to do
with spas. You got a nursing home. Now you talk
about you talk about something will get your attention. Now,
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if you're a resident and a nursing home, you might
have a primary care physician, but they've got a nurse,
they've got a medical director for the whole thing. And
interestingly enough, over my course of time working at the
Medical Examiner's office, people don't see the side of working
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in medical legal death investigation. You have to go and
get with a private physician to get them to sign
the death certificate. Because you know, at the medical Examiner,
if we have somebody that rolls in, I don't know
anything about their medical history. But yet yet you have
a physician who has been prescribing this drug and this
drug and this drug and this drug. And here's one
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of the dirty little secrets about it. You go to
the private physician that has prescribed a sack full of
drugs for people, and they're like, the medical director of
this facility. Guess what, they say, I wasn't there when
they died, so I'm not going to sign the death certificate. Well, dude,
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you weren't there when they were born either, But yet
here we are you're still treating them. And it's that's
why anytime I hear the term medical director a sign
to anybody. It's just like you said, and you and
I did not talk about this beforehand. You brought up
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the fact that if you've got like a whole series
of these medical spas that are out there, this person
might be responsible. So you're telling me that you've got
a doctor on site that's it's monitoring patience because these
people are patients. You know why they're patients because now
you're doing something that is invasive, and people say it's
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only an no, no, it's invasive. You're sticking a needle
exactly into somebody's arm, and you've got an ivy drip
that's going into their body. And in this particular case,
that trip to the SPA wound up in the worst
way possible, resulting apparently in the death of this person.
(14:50):
So Dave, let me get this straight. Jennifer Cleveland arrived
at the Luxe Mets Bah and she went there with
I don't know to get this kind of useful glow.
I guess because this is something that has been promised.
(15:14):
I guess it's I'm sure that if you could go
back and reflect over the literature, you know they're trying
to bring people in. And if what you're saying, and
I think I'm reading this right, you're talking about an
individual that works in sales for a local radio station.
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This is what's kind of chilling about this. Dave, that
person de facto in order to promote this has to
try it, kind of become a guinea pig, don't they.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
In some ways that's a great way to put it out.
There could be or it could be that in the
competitive world of sales, a business pops up and you
go and see them. You have to because you got
to explain to your sales manager who you called on
today so you stopped buying. Look let me Jennifer Cleveland,
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a beautiful forty seven year old woman, beautiful forty seven
years old.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well she's right.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
There in the target demo. Okay, July twenty twenty three.
She was the audience that this particular METASPA in Texas
was looking for as a client. And who's to say,
I don't know when if she had the treatment done
and said, wow, this is great. You know, I don't
know if she did that and then went back to
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him and said, hey, we need to get you on
the air. More people need to know about this. I'm
going to assume that, Okay, let's assume best case scenario Joe,
that she went in got this treatment and made her
feel better about herself, had more energy. Well. The treatment
that Jennifer Cleveland underwent is an iv hydration treatment at
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this medspa that they talked about. It is an infusion
that contains a mixture of and you're going to have
to break this down for us, but a mixture of
vitamins and electrolytes, specifically vitamin B complex A, sorbic acid
B twelve, and Total parental Nutrition TPN electrolytes, and the
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procedure led to a fatal cardiac event. She died because
this IVY drip was done too fast and the person
administering the drip, Joseph Scott Morgan, according to an indictment
(17:49):
handed down by a grand jury, was Amber Johnson, not
the man who was the medical director of the facility.
That's a different fella. Amber Johnson is the owner of
this medspa who is charged. And just so we can
get to this, because Jennifer Cleveland died, she didn't die
on the table at the medspat. She died at the hospital.
(18:09):
They kept her heart beating. I guess or got it
being whatever happens. But Amber Johnson was indicted by a
grand jury for felony murder, felony murder, criminally negligent homicide, manslaughter,
delivery of a dangerous drug, tampering with or violating physical evidence,
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practicing medicine with no license, practicing medicine without a license.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Show. Yeah, here's here's one other little tidbit about this.
You know how we were talking about medical directors just
a moment ago. Well, the guy that's named in this
and that was named as the medical director, it's a
guy named doctor Michael Patrick Gallagher. According to what they
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are reporting, Dave, on the day that Jennifer lost her life,
you're ready for this, he was one hundred miles away. Wow,
one hundred miles away. So look, I don't know anything
about the medical background that miss Amber Johnson may or
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may not have had. I don't know what her education
level was, clinical clinical experiences. Because you know, Dave, I
don't care if you are I don't care if you're
a surgeon or if you're a nursing assistant. When you're
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talking about medicine, the practice of medicine, there is a
clinical phase for everybody where you have to have certain
experience where you go in to a clinic, you're supervised,
you are directed, you know, by people that know more
than you do, and certainly with procedures, certainly with things
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like well what do you do in the case that
you have a patient that goes into cardiac arrest? Okay,
So when we think about the day that Jennifer went
in all right, and she's having these medications, because this
is actually a prescription load that she's taken on, you
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have to have a doctor's signature on this thing to
facilitate it. Did the person that was in watchcare over her,
did she know how to respond to a cardiac arrest?
Did she understand the signs of somebody that might be
in some kind of acute failure or distress relative to
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this kind of electrolyte and balance and particularly with this
complex cocktail that is being injected into our body. Hey,
here's a question. Did did they have a crash card there? Well,
it's a crash card. Crash card is something that's utilized
to revive people. We've all seen movies, you know, where
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they bring out the paddles and you know, everybody you
know says clear, you know, and you know in order
to run and it's called running a code. In order
to run a code, there are multiple levels of certification
you have to have in order to facilitate that, all right.
And there are nurses out there, which We've got a
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lot of nurses that are friends that listen to the show,
and now I can see them shaking their heads right now,
because that journey to get certified at that level to
be able to run a code is so intense, Dave,
I can't even begin to express to you intellectually and
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clinically how difficult this process is just to make it through.
But you want it to be difficult, right, I mean
if somebody is going to be pushing drugs on you. Uh,
you know. One of the things I'm thinking about is
just like an epi injection, Uh, you know, where you're
injecting epinephrine into into an individual and you're having to
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try to understand the rhythm and you're you know, you're
reading the e KG or the lack of what may
or may not be are you getting appropriate responses and
all this I wonder at the MEDSPA and I'm using
that as a generalize you got a crash cart sitting
around there, and do you have anybody that knows how
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to use those tools there? Because this is obviously a risk.
It doesn't take a rocket sciences, you don't have to
have a degree in medicine. You can look at the
cocktail that they're putting out there and you can see
that there are certain inherent risks that come along with
subjecting people to this kind of and I'm using this
(23:05):
term very very loosely, this kind of therapy, all right,
because it's supposed to be a therapeutic event and they
you've got to tell you, buddy, Jenifer Cleveland for whatever reason,
and I've got a couple of couple of things Eric
can talk about. But I don't think that she walked
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in expecting that she was not going to be walking out.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You know, the shocking part of all of this, Joe,
is that you know you're doing something that has all
the appearances of being healthy. You know, a medical director
is prescribing these medications for you to take that it's
going to replenish your body supply of whatever it needs,
and you're going to it's going to make you feel
better and stronger and younger. I mean, it's the greatest
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thing you can do. And hey, it only takes a
couple of minutes. I mean, this is really a great idea.
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
That's if you look at it.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
From do you want to feel better? Do you want
to look here? And in this case, Jennifer Cleveland overdosed
on potassium chloride allegedly provided by Johnson. I'm saying allegedly
because we have not been through court yet. According to
what we know now, Jennifer Cleveland was administered one thousand
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million of what's called an ivy cocktail.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
When I think of an IV, I'm thinking about how
I'm in the hospital and I've got an IV drip
going on, so they can administer medications that I might
need over the course of my time there, you know,
and that so they don't have to keep giving me injections,
you know. I mean, that's kind of what I think
of an IV.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah. Yeah, to a certain degree that that's accurate. And
you know, you can have a port that's in place
so that they don't have to continue to You've got
an indwelling site and injection site and they can inject that.
But with if they've hung a bag of fluids on somebody,
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all right, those fluids in a hospital setting, in that
true therapeutic setting, we have nurses that are coming in
and they're taking care of you. For those out there
that have not have not had to go through through
the experience of being hospitalized, you haven't lived until you're
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being awakened at eleven, at two, at four, at six,
and it's because they're checking on you. You know, I
know people find that irritating. Look, I want to be irritated,
all right. I want I want a nurse because there's
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not always going to be a doctor physically there on
the floor. Now they'll have a hospit a list that's
in house, and they can run up there and do
all the stuff that they do. But I want a nurse,
you know. I want somebody who's been through nursing school.
I want somebody that has passed their nursing boards. I
want somebody that knows and understands basic basic human physiology.
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That they understand drug interactions, you know how, and particularly
I want them to understand how my body's responding. Right,
And you know, for Jennifer, she didn't have that. She
didn't have that, she was left she was left in
the hands of Amber Okay that was running the med SPA.
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She was also left in the hands of a medical
director that in this case was nowhere to be found.
(27:07):
Just so that we can set the stage here. Once
this therapy of this cocktail was administered to Jennifer, it
was within a very short period of time that she
goes in or becomes unresponsive. Now listen, I don't know
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how she, you know, was unresponsive. I don't know how
somebody like Amber Johnson. I don't know this person on
any level. I don't know anything about their medical background
and their training. I don't know how she would necessarily
define unresponsive. Are you saying that she's no longer awake
(27:55):
and alert. I mean I've had multiple over the course
of my life, multiple ivs at and hung on me
unless I was going to go into surgery. I do
not recall losing consciousness. So you have that unresponsive, you know,
you lose consciousness where you know, hello, is there anybody
(28:17):
in there? Or is it that there's no detectable signs
of life, you know, just is not rising and falling.
You're checking for uh, you know, karate pulse. You're checking
you know, for a breachial pulse. Uh, and it's your
absent there. That's that's a kind of unresponsive, right, So
(28:41):
I don't know what what it meant. Did she have
a sudden seizure while she's on the table, and following
that seizure, she just kind of goes limp.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
They can give you a timetable. I can give you
the time case.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Sure, sure, go ahead, brother.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
All right, four am. The infusion begins on Jennifer Cleveland.
Twenty seven minutes later, at eleven thirty one am, she
lost consciousness, had no pulse, collapsed gone. They had to
(29:15):
rush her to the hospital and she was admitted with
cardiac arrest and was pronounced dead minutes after arriving. Joe,
I know you're going to cover this because I'm curious
when I saw the the rate of infusion, the infusion
rate recommended, you know, to not pass that TPN electrolytes,
(29:37):
the which is part of this IV cocktail. TP and
electrolytes require a slow infusion rate of eighty three to
one hundred and twenty five miliaters per hour or mL
means milli leaders right, Yes, it does per hour over
a twenty four hour period to avoid any adverse effacts.
(29:58):
And the call here is that this IV cocktail was
being administered too fast and directly caused the death of
Jennifer Cleveland. When you look at the autopsy report, can
you see how quickly something was administered. Can you see
(30:19):
the results of that IV cocktail entering the bloodstream? Can
you see what all was going on?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
No, but you can. You can hazard a diagnosis based
upon a young woman, she's only in her forties, forty seven. Yeah,
and how this sudden death event came about. That's why
it's really important that as a medical legal death investigator,
(30:47):
you're going to speak to all of the principles involved
in this to understand what they were actually witnessing, Like,
was there an increase in heart rate, say, for instance,
where their complaints from patient where they saying things like
I can't catch my breath, I can't breathe. You know, Uh,
(31:11):
they've got a pulse, a rapid pulse that is incompatible
with life. That is, if you're actually a medical practitioner
and you understand what all of that indicates. Now, if
you're exceeding the recommended rate of this infusion, why in
the world you would do this? I have no idea. Uh,
(31:31):
why you would you know, increase the volume that that
goes beyond the accepted parameters of the so called therapy.
I don't I don't understand that because you know this
this TPN. The thing about it is it does have
true medical applications. It's a nutritional thing that's actually used.
(31:53):
That's why, like doctors can actually prescribe this. You know,
like you're deficient in certain areas, is that you need
you need kind of a boost relative to this. Well
what if you don't actually need TPN and it's given
to you, all right, But yet they're telling you that
you're going to be able to have this beautiful appearance.
(32:16):
Now it's going to make you more useful, you know,
these sorts of things. And here here's the thing about it.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Day.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
You know, in most medical therapies that you're going to
be subjected to, whether it's physical therapy, uh, a respiratory therapy,
you might receive some kind of cardiac therapy. You know
that people have to go through. You know what, brother,
most of the time they're diagnostic tests that are running
(32:46):
in advance to give the physician the picture of what
they're dealing with. Guess what they would have found with
Jennifer if they'd done diagnostics that they found at autopsy
she had audiomeglia And what does that means to han
enlarged heart? Okay? And structurally, structurally that gives you a
(33:08):
few indications that, Okay, maybe TPN or this overall therapy
was cocked up, might not be good for you because
you're also you know, part of this is like electrolyte therapy.
Electrolytes at their base, they have a big influence on
(33:30):
cardiac health, Okay, and just day to day function, just
in that area longe they serve. You know, we could
sit here all day long and go through all the
clinical applications as it applies to electrolyte therapy. All right,
but let's just focus on the heart, okay, because that's
going to give us an indication of well, if you
(33:52):
have a condition like heart enlargement, all right, how is
the introduction of electric lights going to impact a patient
that has cardio meg? All right? Because cardio meg can
it can come about as a result of many things,
like some kind of hypertension that maybe I don't know,
(34:15):
maybe Jennifer had not been diagnosed with high potension, all right,
But yet here she is, and she's in this therapeutic
environment again air quotes, and they're shooting this cocktail into her.
She's already got a heart problem. It really, it really
(34:38):
draws into question the judgment of those individuals. I think
that's why, why, why they've really put the hammer down
in this case regarding the charges that have been brought
up against Amber and Dave. Look, I've been proudly known.
(34:59):
I think it's really important for our friends to understand
what she has been charged with because it's I remembered
seeing the list and the list is like, Wow, I
can't believe this, but please go ahead.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Joe Amber Johnson was indicted by a grand jury on
the following charges felony murder, criminally negligent homicide, manslaughter, delivery
of a dangerous drug, campering with or violating physical evidence,
practicing medicine with no license. Think about this, Joe Amber
(35:35):
Johnson opened this medspa with no medical license whatsoever. She's
not a nurse nothing. She has no medical license that
I can find anywhere. Texas has a law against that.
She partnered with that medical doctor to be the supervisor
of this thing. But he's one hundred miles away.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hang on, let me ask you
a question real quick. What has the you know, the
medical director been charged with.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
The medical director is a fellow by the name of
Michael Gallagher. Now, he allegedly failed to adequately supervise Johnson,
permitted her to use his medical license to obtain TPN electrolytes,
and or failed to monitor the TPN electrolyts Johnson obtained
and administered. This is according to the indictment handed down
(36:27):
on Gallagher. The arrest warrant for Gallagher was executed the
day after Amber Johnson was arrested, and he his charges.
Here we go, fellony, murder, manslaughter, criminally neglig jeh homicide,
nine counts of delivery offer delivery of a dangerous drug,
(36:49):
thirteen counts of practicing medicine, and violation of subtitle of
Freestone County Jail spokesperson confirmed he was released on ninety
six dollars bond the same day he was arrested.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Wow, okay, I just had to get that straight because
you know, one of the things I've run into over
the years, and here's a big reveal when it comes
to physicians many times that have been involved or see
how can I phrase this? That have okay? Well, where
(37:26):
their patient has died. It's interesting they will list that
many times as a medical Are you sitting down for this, Dave?
They're listed as a medical misadventure and the doctor won't
(37:47):
be charged with anything. And so I got to tell you,
I'm tip of the cap to the folks in Texas
over this, uh, you know, relative to you know, what
they're exploring here, because this is you know, again, we
(38:08):
don't have anybody that has been brought to trial at
this point in time, but the fact that they are
going down this road, I guess the biggest thing. You know,
no one, no one on the face of the planet,
likes to be made an example of. I can guarantee
you that I, you know, I you know those without
(38:30):
send you know, for the first stone, I've been made
an example of because decisions I've made my past. But
the things that I did didn't necessarily wind up in
somebody's you know end all right.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Hey, Joe, one thing good did come out of us.
I mean, grant, we still have to go through the
legal process here. But after Jennifer's passing, her husband really
he took it as you would expect, he said, my
wife she wanted. All my wife wanted to do was love.
That's all she wanted to do was love. And I
(39:08):
thought that's a powerful thing, you know. And it led
to the state of Texas politicians upping the ante on
the laws on these things. It's called Jennifer's Law. Jennifer's
Law was signed June twentieth of last year, regulates elective
(39:29):
IV therapy in Texas, requiring it to be administered only
by qualified medical professionals that would be physicians, pas apr
ns and our or our ends.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
You got to have one of those things.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
You ain't doing this, thank god.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah. Prohibits the delegation to unlicensed staff at a MEDSPA
can't say hey, you know how to do an IV,
you go ahead and do it. I'm here, I got
my license.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You have to do it.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
The doctor has to go to the nurse.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
And that that's you know, that's what this comes down to.
I don't you know, I don't want to see other families,
you know, go through this. You know what what this
family has had to go through. And look, if you
want to go to a SPA, I think it's great man.
(40:20):
I mean, who doesn't want to be able to, you know,
have a SPA day. But what what does I think
the big question you have to ask yourself what does
a SPA day actually mean? Does it mean that you're
going to go in, You're going to get a relaxing massage,
you know, some kind of tending to your nails, whatever
that is. I don't like people touching my feet, but
(40:43):
you know, whatever that means, you're going to get some
kind of facial exfoliation or whatever the case. Maybe it's
maybe it's you get to go sit in a steambath
and they bring you some kind of herbal tea. I'm
down with that. I'm cool with that. But you shouldn't
walk in to an establishment not being able to walk out.
(41:06):
If this has taught us anything, I think that it's
important to understand that before you involve yourself in some
kind of storefront spa medical facility, make sure you know
who you're dealing with. And here's one other thing, make
sure you know what your body can handle, because it
(41:30):
would appear that in this particular case, there was nothing
diagnostically done prior to this procedure, and it is a
procedure if it had been done trying to calculate the
risk and what she's going to be exposed to, she'd
(41:51):
probably still be with us today. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan
and this is Bodybacks.
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