July 16, 2026 • 36 mins
Krystal and Saagar discuss Israel caught in op to derail Iran deal, massive outbreak as Trump cuts disease experts.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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dot Com. Turning out to Brad Parscale, a name some
of you may have forgotten at this point, but let's
put this up here on the screen. He was, of course,
Donald Trump's campaign manager for years. He raised hundreds of
millions of dollars. He himself had quite a bit of
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controversy at the time, and so what has he been
doing in his retirement. Well we've known this for quite
some time, but Time magazine really dug into the details.
Trump's ex campaign manager, Brad Parscale is running in Israeli
influence operation targeting the MAGA base.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
So let me read. In case you have not heard
of any of this before.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Last September, the global ad agency HAVAS hired Brad Parscale's
firm clock Tower X to conduct a digital campaign on
behalf of the state of Israel.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
This is according to the Foreign Agents Registration.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Act filings, which were reviewed by Time magazine. Under Parscale's operation,
he would produce one hundred original pieces of content each month,
with he aimed at least eighty percent for gen Z
audiences across TikTok, Instagram, YouTube and podcasts. In services agreement,
Parscale pledged to amplify the campaign across social media, integration
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of narrative messaging into the Salem Media Network properties, and
aligned distribution channels, which refers to the Christian Conservative Broadcasting
and Publishing company where he is the chief strategy officer.
He vowed that the effort would produce at least fifty
million digital impressions per month, as well as influence how
AI tools such as open ais Chat, GPT, Anthropics, clot
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and Google's Gemini characterized Israel.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And the war.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
For all of this, they agreed to pay some one
point five million dollars per month. And so what you
can see here is that you had a nearly forty
to fifty million dollar ad campaign which has now been
running for years in the background, exclusively targeted at the
magabase to keep them from staying on side whenever it
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comes to the issue of Israel. Now, we don't really know,
you know, who exactly has been ensnared in all of this,
but some of the names are at least familiar to
those of us on Twitter. So, for example, it is
not clear how much Brad Parscal has actually paid individual
influencers as part of this campaign. Other recent influenzable campaigns
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have offered them a base payment of twenty two hundred
twenty two to fifty plus one dollar for every one
thousand views up to two million, allowing them to earn
as much as four thousand, two hundred and fifty dollars
per post per post. So let's say and extrapolate this
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from Twitter. I'll just give people an example. Both of
us are Twitter blue, not by choice, by the way,
you know, It's like we were just kind of given
to us. And so I can see what my creator,
you know, output or whatever is what for all of
my tweets in a month we earn and all the
funds go to the company. It's like three hundred dollars
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for every tweet that I put out. And I think
I haven't looked at the average impression or any of that,
but I'm sure it probably at least some of them,
some of the more viral ones, would meet this standard.
So they are paying ten times market value, so to speak,
all for pro Israel messaging, which is all being used
and coordinated by Power Scale, and this influence operation all
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on behalf of the state of Israel. I will say
one noteworthy piece, as an Israeli official actually said he
didn't even do a good job.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, the Israelis are like, look at our approval rating
in the US. This is not working. Like you, young
people hate us, whether they're on the right or the left.
So you're not what are you doing with his money?
It's not working?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Right, So at least you know one you know, funny
karmic thing in here is that the Israelis are bitching
that they didn't get enough value for their money and
paying So yeah, I mean, okay, Brad Parscal got.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Really rich, so that's good. Good for him.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Buy a couple more mansions in South Florida, but it
is still noteworthy because it reveals how there are so
many people who and usually the ones accusing us and
others of being Katari agents, who actually are on the payer. Now,
I'm not going to stay on the payroll of a
foreign government because it's laundered. You know, it's like, oh,
to an American thing. But ultimately the cash, if you
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were to trace it back, would be to the either
the Israeli government or some friends of the Israeli government.
And more importantly, it's inorganic, like in terms of what
they're posting, and usually it's the people who have the
most vicious accusations. It's really a confession the very people
who want to actually use Tucker Carlson or our show
or other.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I just had this recently. It's like your pro terror
funded media outlet. And you know, I often just want
to be like, okay, let's both of us, will it
independently audited our tax returns. Let's see who's got money
coming from a foreign because it ain't me. I can
guarantee you that you know and all, they would never
put up with any of that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, I mean, it is very it's first of all,
what a sleazy guy like so disgusting, and it really
does you know, we're about to place a JD Vance
club on Joe Rogan, Like it really is aimed at
undercutting the negotiations and any sort of potential diplomacy process.
Immediately after the MoU was signed, you saw all of
these right wing influencers. We don't know technically whether they
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were all paid or not, but a bunch of them
similar language attacking the MoU, saying it was a disaster
for the US. You know, all this very coordinated looking
messaging coming from the right wing influencer community. But also
you know, I think like this is one very important vector.
I need you guys to understand how much of messaging
in the right wing media influencer space is paid for.
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Like there was another instant, remember we covered it when
there was all of a sudden, this very coordinated messaging
around some soda issue.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
They talk about this in Time magazine.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
You'll see things like that pop up where you're like,
what where did this come from? Or there was this
coordinated attack on Harley Motorcycles that appears to have been
funded by their competitor, and you all of a sudden,
had all of these right wing influencers who were like
deeply passionate about how Harley Davidson has gone woke, which
was preposteros, like based on literally nothing. But you'll see
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this and I'm not going to say there's none of
that on the left, but I can tell you it's
not the same.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
It genuinely isn't.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You had a whole scandal about the Chorus, you know,
influencer community.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
That was a thing, But I'm telling you you do
not have.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
The same level of expectation that you can just buy
people and they this is commonplace, it accepted among the
right wing media influencer class. We interviewed Kyle, and I
interviewed Ashley Saint Clair elon Musk's X paramore yeah X
all of this, and she was talking about how, yeah,
she'd be in these group chats and this is just
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how it works.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
So when you had that scandal.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Involving Timpoole and some other influencers who were like getting
the shady money, they were like, what's the problem.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Everybody does this. This is just normal. This is how
we operate.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
So I don't know, it's really wild, but people need
to understand that what you're seeing on Twitter, or the
content that's being produced, video content that's being produced that
is not necessarily just coming because of their neutral analysis.
Oftentimes there is someone behind the scenes who has a perspective,
has an interest, who is paying them to say what
they are.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I've been on the receiving end of this.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
So if somebody called me and said, I know you
really are passionate about sports betting, would you be willing
to post against a sports betting piece of legislation? I
was like, well, I was like, I don't accept money
for posts. Just tell me about it and maybe I'll
post about it or not. I don't get paid for
Twitter for anything, you know. And and I go wait
out of curiosity because I would love to meet this
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person who is paying to lobby against sports betting legislation.
And they said, oh, well, we're working for the prediction markets.
And I was like, oh, so the prediction markets are
paying people to lobby against legal sports betting so they
can be the only option. That's that's the level of
scumbaggery which is happening out there. Of course, I just
said no, I don't want you any I don't want
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your blood money.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Basically.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I also didn't even end up posting about it just
because it's so skeevy and so disgusting.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
But that's a perfect example. And then you know, the
way that they.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Justify this stuff is there's always like like soda, They're like, oh,
who cares, Okay, sure, I'll take a few dollars here
and there. At one point I saw there was this
whole scandal over India, like the government of India or
somebody had been paying these influence or some firm on
their behalf because Indians were under attack by a lot
of these like you know, groiper types, and so a
bunch of these right wing accounts are posting on behalf
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of India and then they got attacked and they deleted
an apology. I know this all may sound, you know,
a little bit byzantine, but this really does matter in
terms of taste making I think on the right wall.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And that's why it's important.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yes, and especially now you have you know, it's a
wild wild west in terms of journalism and media, which
in some ways is great. That's why we exist, right
It's enabled our ability to create the show and reach
an audience and all those sorts of things. But don't
leave your media analysis behind.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
We all understand, or viewers of this show, I think,
understand the way that corporate media is in flat fluenced
by their advertisers and by access journalism, by the sort
of journalists that they even select to be at those organizations,
and who's able to succeed and rise to the top.
Like we understand all of that in a lot of ways.
In the in quote unquote independent media ecosystem, the incentives
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are vastly worse because, at least at corporate media, there
was a line between the people who were stelling YouTube
you're fired, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, you caught for taking direct
like corporate money or from any sort of interest and
then providing a viewpoint based on that, you would be
out the door here.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
It's just commonplace.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's just become an accepted part of the ecosystem to
have this sort of direct undisclosed pay for play. So
it was, you know, this is an important story obviously
because of how consequential the decision in making around the
Iran War is ultimately and so it was interesting to
hear Jade Vance talking to Joe Rogan about this and
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the bands of course was the one who sent out
to do the negotiations and was trying to present to
Rogan this idea that like, oh yeah, we're bombing him again,
but I promise we're getting back to the negotiating table.
We'll see if that works out. In any case, he
had a lot to say about this foreign influence operation
that is being run to undermine the negotiations.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Let's take a listen to that.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
But I definitely think you have seen this very discreete
extremely well funded campaign to try to derail the negotiation
and try to derail the deal. You know, there was again,
there's this time article that came out yesterday. A friend
send it to me. It's like worth reading because it
lists a bunch of people who have quite literally been
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paid by a former Trump campaign person who was himself
paid by certain elements within the Israeli government. And those
people are attacking me viciously for quite literally trying to
accomplish the negotiation objective that the President's set for the country.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
So what is their position, like, are they're attacking you how?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Oh, it's it's social media posts, it's you know, they're
leaking to reporters. They're attacking me obsessively saying that we
should not be negotiating with Iran. We should just keep
the military campaign going indefinitely. Let's say certain elements of
the Israeli government want to criticize the deal or have
disagreements about the deal. I don't even mind an effort
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to try to influence. You know, foreign governments try to
influence the United States all the time. You know, Israel
does it, other countries do it.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
It's just sort of.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
The nature of the beast. What bothers me is actually
when Americans allow, meaning American leadership allows that influence to
affect their judgment and to affect what they're advocating for.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So let me just point out that his boss took
how much money from Mary Mandelson for campaign?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
And then you have the audacity to be like, oh, the.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Money and the influence, it's like the influencing politicians. That's
what's really terrible. I don't know, that's a lot for
me to swallow.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Fair, I will say.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
The reason why, I mean, it's kind of interesting that
you would call it out in the first place. The
reason why is I think is I don't think he
would if it weren't actually influential on his ability to
negotiate and within the administration, because I can tell you
how this all works. It's all happening right now because
Jad basically just said the same stuff on Rogan they
alway says about Israel. It's like, look, I mean, look
at that, and this is why it's so tortured and
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why am I opinion The proseral position just ultimately has
to collapse, So you have to twist yourself in a
nons of like I don't even mind if the tries,
you know, every other country tries. It's like fucking Estonia
is not trying as much. Estonia does not have nearly
as much influence.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Did you know we have.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
More of a legal responsibility to protect Estonia than we
do Israel.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Do people even know that?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
But I think both the nuts just so you know,
but you know, just in terms of the level of influence.
My point around this is those posts are all you
and I know how this works to the extent.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
That I tweet it all because I really don't much anymore.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I only really do it to either either put an
opinion out there like for fun like weed or Daylight Savings,
or to influence the debate in the White House because
I know that these posts gets surfaced and passed around
and group chats and others to influence the debate against
each other. That's why Laura Lumer does what she does.
That's why she's out today attacking Joe Rogan, Mark Levin,
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Randy Fine, and just to show you all how.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It's online administration to incredibly advance is really like the
pinnacle of that online nature. I mean, that is really
how he developed a lot of his view and became
prominent in the right wing media ecosystem space.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, so what I mean, Yes, he rode the online
space to the Senate and arguably, I would say to
the Vice President and largely you know, that's what set
him apart from a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Of the other people who were GOP politicians.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
What I find fascinating though, is, let's put this one
up here on the screen from Randy Fine, the senator
from or the sorry, the congressman from Tel.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Aviv aka Florida.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
But here he says, Randy Fine is now told White
House officials he will vote against every rule on the floor, which,
just so you know, rule on the floor is like
how you bring legislation. So this is a major pain
in the ass for Mike Johnson and for the GOP,
because what this means is that they will have much
more difficulty advancing legislation, especially when you have such a
narrow majority that's in the House of Representatives. What he
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says is he'll vote it until Trump fires Alex bruce Witz.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Brucewitz and name some of you may not know.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He was kind of the podcast whisperer of the Trump
and Trump campaign in twenty twenty four. He was the
one behind the Yvonne Joe Rogan, the Andrew Schultz interview
like a lot of stuff which you say whatever you want.
It obviously worked tremendously to Trump's benefit and kind of
set a cultural vibe of Donald Trump ahead of the election.
Bruce Witz has been one of the people who has
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been most vociferously attacking the Brad Parscale or not even attacking,
pointing out a lot of these pro Israel influencers are
all being paid off and saying you're undermining the administration.
How dare you not trust Donald Trump? So Randy Fine
finds it so important to fire this person who is
just elevating the fact that pro Israel influencers are being
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paid and that Parscale himself is being paid that he
is going to vote against every piece of legislation until
bruce Witz is fired by the Trump by Trump as
an advisor. We don't know how long and how far
this is going to go, but I just do think
that this is incredibly noteworthy for how he sees the
you know how Randy himself, of course, one of the
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most pro Israel piece you know, one of the most
pro Israel politicians in the GOP, he sees this so
as vital to his influence operation. And this has now
been endorsed by Mark Levin, who's like, great job, you know,
Randy fine. So you can see how for them they
find Twitter and like the battle of ideas there that
takes place as well as here in podcasts so important
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because what they need is to elevate this and show
that there's actually more backlash against diplomacy than there actually is.
Because if you're going to actually ask the American people
or do you support diplomatic effice war, they're like, yes,
of course, no question right. And for Trump, because he's
such a blank slate, they always try to use They
attack JD whenever they can attack Trump, or they use
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Trump to attack JD and this is all part of
what's going on right now, and it's very noteworthy.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
This is a separate issue.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I think Fox needs a big problem for declomacy too,
because they're still beating the drums of war. It's like
the one thing that they'll be critical of Trump on.
But I also want people to understand it's not just
like Twitter influencers. Brad Parscale is the chief strategy officer
for Salem Media, which has all sorts of properties. They
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have a whole radio network, they fund a podcast network,
they fund town Hall, Red State, Hot Air, PG Media,
They've got all this Christian content. They even fund some
like financial publication. So it's a large conservative media network
that Parscale is the chief strategy officer for, and overtly
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in his contract he says he pledged to amplify the
campaign across social media and through integration of narrative messaging
into Salem Media network properties and aligned distribution channels refer
into the Christian Conservative Badcasting and Publishing company where he
serves as chief strategy officer. It will not surprise you
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that our own Ryan Grimm confronted Scott Jennings, who is
part of this Salem Media Network over the foreign Israeli
ties and how that might influence his commentary that he
offers on his show.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Let's go ahead and this is E two. Let's go
ahead and take a listen to that.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
As a student, be as critical as you want, really
of the United States, you just can't be critical of Israel.
And also, and this is not personal the but there
is so much kind of money pouring in to push
us in that direction, even Salem Media where you do
your show, right, Brad Parscale, who is the chief strategy
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officer there is a registered foreign agent for the Israeli
Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Like this is an American I
think it's American, right Salem. Yeah, it's an American media
company whose chief strategy officer is a foreign agent registered
for the state of Israel. Let's thirty percent of this
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company is owned by Lara Trump and Don Trump Junior.
Like what so before we're talking about like who you know,
what is America?
Speaker 8 (19:13):
Who?
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Who should be an American? It's like, or can we
as Americans discuss this?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Let's get Scott's response.
Speaker 9 (19:21):
Yeah, so you you seem to have some issue with
Israel having a presence in the United States, or even even.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
On American I think we should be sanctioning even yes,
even on American universities. I think they should be sanctioned. Yes,
do you I think it should be I think I
think it. I think it should be criminal for an
American media company to take money from the Israeli Ministry
of Foreign Affairs, because I think they should be under
sanctions for what they did in Gaza.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
Do you believe that American universities should be taking money from,
say Cutter.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
If we want to do a broad around human rights.
Speaker 9 (19:58):
You seem to have singled out one country because put
by the way, as an ally of the United.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
They committed a genocide. Uh Cunter a lot of human
rights problems.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
There a lot of.
Speaker 9 (20:08):
Universities all about Arabia. Universities all of this country do
take Katari money. I'm asking you internationalism beyond Israel.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
I'd be okay with banning that too.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
They always they always.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Say, I know, they always think the Left isn't kind
of willing to condemn Saudi Arabian's, Like we're the only
people who cared about the genocide they were.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Committing in Yemen.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Go look at you know, the content that we do
about Ua and Sudan. But they always think that, oh,
they only care about Israel because I think they buy
the nonsense that it's based on anti Semitary and there's
not any sort of principal view around. Hey, we don't
want our tax dollars going to a genocide. We don't
want to see genocide committed.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Period.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I've had this hit so many times. They're like, Qatar
must be paying him. The Katari government hates me. Roll
the footage from our show during the World Cup where
we were talking about all of the abuse of their
migrant laborers and how corrupt they were. I was afraid
I might get arrested whenever I had to do when
I had to transit through Doha.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But yeah, they're gonna pay me some money just what
to speak out against Israel. It's a joke. It's just
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
That's all these people have, you know, it's all they
ever will last thing. We're just going to have a
small shout out here to al Yah Kobe, the friend
of the show.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, let's put him up here on the screen. Four.
He is one of the people who is named in
this article.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
In fact, I think.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
He's the only one, yeah, that was specifically like this.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
This one guy is definitely on the take.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So he he got very upset with Time magazine because
he disputed that he had been paid by Influenceable to
combat anti Semitism. But he does confirm he has worked
on Influenceable campaigns, according to a company official. Yeah, Kobe
did not say that he was paid to combat anti Semitism.
He did, however, say that he had not post anything,
but he didn't already believe. However, as you and I
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both know, even simply being paid to post opinions, you know,
is a way to basically prop them up inorganically. Ours
are completely and totally funded by a mass audience of
millions of people. So yeah, I mean sometimes you say
things that people don't agree with, etc. People can cancel
the members if they want, prefer you don't, but if
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you want to, I guess you can. But it's not
a direct like nobody this is my favor. And they're like, oh,
he's posting this wheed Pharma's paying him. I'm like, oh, yeah,
for sure. I would adventure to say the weed stuff
has probably cost us more money in the long run
than anybody who's ever signed.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Up for it. I don't give it shit. But that's
my point.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Just we are paid, you know, and supported by the
show because people believe in the mission. They are being
directly paid inorganically outside of any like real market force,
by either the government, the companies, or whatever. And that's
fundamentally is undemocratic because it makes them more overrepresented in
political discourse than they actually deserve to be.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
And this is why does this matter. It's not just
my influencers.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
They set the tone for the GOP members of Congress
and for all of these other people who are in
the White House and the administration others to make them
think this is a much more popular position.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Than it actually is.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yeah, And like, if you're being paid for something, then
you and.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You should disclose it, right, you should.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Absolutely disclose it. But just in terms of the way
that works.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Because I believe him that he genuinely holds horrific genocidal views.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I actually believe him in that.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I don't know if you guys remember he's the one
who came to fame as like a college student crying
about anti semitism and demanding of safe space and really
helped to launch the anti Semitism, woke turn on the
Republican right. But in any case, I believe him that
he genuinely and sincerely holds those views. But you know,
if you're being paid to post, then maybe you're going
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to post at a time when you wouldn't have otherwise. Maybe
you're going to go further than you would have otherwise
and try, you know, so you can get that engagement,
so you can get a larger paycheck. It even with
someone who has those views, it distorts and changes their incentives,
and it also creates a situation. You know, people can
talk themselves and all kinds of things if their paycheck
depends on it. So maybe things that you know on
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him or another influencer wouldn't have justified. They can talk
themselves into because it's financially beneficial to them.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
So it's sick, it's sleazy, and it's far far too common.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
So appreciate Time magazine digging into and exposing at least
this one node, and then the fact that it's Trump's
former campaign chief who is now directly at times at
least depending on whether Trump is in a pro peace
or a pro war mood that day, but is at
times directly undermining what Trump is trying to do.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I agree, all right, Oh I haven't done this in
a while, Crystal, What are you taking a look at?
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Taco Bell is now being investigated for potentially contributing to
the horrifying spread of the Cyclospora parasite, which has caused
a surge in explosive diarrhea. That illness can drag on
for weeks. It has already put dozens of people in
the hospital. Here's a report on that investigation, they say.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday that
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investigators have identified a likely epidemiological link among cyclostspor bass
cases in at least four Midwestern states Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia,
and Kentucky, marking the agency's clearest public indication yet that
many of the illnesses are connected by a common source.
Cases have been identified in at least thirty four states,
and additional confirmed illnesses could continue to increase through the
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end of August, according to officials. For their part, Taco
Bell has voluntarily pulled some ingredients like lettuce, cilantro, and
guacamole from the menu in certain hard hit locations as
the search for the source of the parasitic spread is investigated.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Some people afflicted with cyclosporiasis say they never ate at
Taco Bell, and the report does acknowledge that no specific
Taco Bell nexus has been identified, so honestly, who.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Knows so far.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Though states are reporting roughly seven thousand cases, with a
particularly severe concentration in the Midwest, federal reporting is way
behind the state totals. For a sense of the scale
of the outbreak, Though Michigan typically reports forty to fifty
cases for an entire year, this year, they've already identified
more than thirty seven hundred. Nationally, the CVC logged twenty
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seven hundred cases in all of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
We have more than doubled that in It's only mid July.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
State data suggests we've already blown past the previous all
time hive about forty seven hundred cases set in twenty nineteen.
What's more, all of these numbers are likely a significant
undercount because plenty of people seek care at home never
reported to the authorities, and also because testing for cyclist
spora is actually more difficult than other passage pathogens. One
confirmed patient described weeks of gastro intestinal hell, in which
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she was so severely afflicted at times she could not
move from the confines of the bathroom.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
No, it was pretty bad.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
It was.
Speaker 9 (26:39):
It was bad.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
It's embarrassing how bad it was.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
It was really bad.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Were there were moments where I was literally just camped
out in the bathroom and like, I don't care, I'm
just going to lay on this floor. And there was
like one night and I'm not a vomitter. One night
I did have an episode of just like it was.
That was actually the turning poorer. Wow, was like the
next morning, I'm like, Okay, we're going to the emergency
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room because I remember calling and my baby came in
and she's like, what do you need. I was like
something for me to get this out in, so she's
bringing me a trash can. And it was pretty bad.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
It was bad.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
It's not for the week, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Not for the week.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Contemplating this horrifying fate, all for the crime of indulging
in a crunch wrap, you may.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Be asking yourself, why has God forsaken us?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well, turns out fault lies not in the stars, but
in ourselves, or at least in the wretched government we
decided to elect For some reason, in their enthusiasm for
government destruction, the Trump administration decided it would be a
great idea to just stop requiring active surveillance for cyclospora
along with a host of other food borne illnesses like listeria.
In fact, now monitoring is only required for two pathogens
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that salmonilla and E.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Coli.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Let's consider the irony here. We're devoting endless resources to
building the human tracking panopticon, but when it comes time
to surveil and track explosive diarrhea causing pathoge and suddenly,
apparently I don't have the funds. This is all unfolding too,
amidst the backdrop of massive workforce cuts at the CDC
and across all of health and Human services. The CDC
alone is lost about a quarter of its workforce under
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Trump two point zero, including key experts among the agency's
disease detectives. Maintaining the previous surveillance regime would not likely
have stopped the outbreak, but the fact that it's spreading unchecked,
that the federal data is lagging way behind the state data,
and that no source still has been identified That all
speaks to the detrimental impact of all of these cuts.
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Former CDC communication staffer Sarah Boham, she was terminated in
the first wave of DOGE firings back in February twenty
twenty five. She described the toll here as generational. The
harm that's going to come to people that don't even
know what CDC was protecting them from. But this is
just the tip of the iceberg lettuce. Sorry, couldn't resist
that one. How would you also like little flesh eating bacteria?
(28:55):
Maybe malarial reintroduction. How about a screwworm infestation or an
unmitigated bullet catastrophe. Did you vote for explosive diarrhea and
a resurgence of the measles? Because also impacted by the
pathage and surveillance cuts was a little guy called Vibrio.
Vibrio is a flesh eating bacteria causing serious illness icee U, hospitalization,
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limb amputation, and even death in one of five cases.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
It is spreading more widely.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Now due to the impacts of the climate crisis at
the same time that the trump edmin is undercutting our
ability to track and to study it. In fact, the
National Science Foundation began dismantling the deep Ocean monitoring network
critical for predicting the sorts of conditions in which Vibrio thrives.
The program was explicitly targeted by Project twenty twenty five,
claiming that the data was fueling climate alarmism. Now, let
(29:43):
me ask you, do you think it's climate alarmism to
want to know a little something about flesh eating bacteria. Fortunately,
outcry from Congress did lead them to reverse those original plans.
But moving on from the CDC, we got a significant
screw worm spread, causing chaos and the cattle industry. This
parasitic blowfly had been around dedicated in the US. Now
it's back, and unfortunately for beef enjoyers, the USDA unit
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responsible for fighting it, the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service,
lost two thousand and nine employees under DOGE. That is
twenty three percent of the entire service. USDA overall shed
roughly twenty thousand workers in a single year. Now, Agriculture
Secretary brookroledge, she claims that the idea Doge caused this
could not be further from the true truth. She instead
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blames Biden and illegal immigration. She has, however, failed to
provide any evidence of this claim. USDA's own report, though,
estimates a Texas outbreak could cost the state one point
eight billion dollars. Meanwhile, if we look overseas, we can
see the impact of our global aid cuts on disease
prevention around the world. There is, for example, a particularly
bad outbreak of a bullet in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
It's one of the worst in history.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
In fact, experts say that has been worsened by USAID
cuts and US withdrawal from the World Health Organization. Quote
without the same amount of funding from USAID, the International
Rescue Committe, which partners to deliver frontline health surveillance and
outbreak preparedness activities in Congo, curtailed its programs. Funding cuts
have left the region dangerously exposed. Heather reach kerr IRC's
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country director for Congo, said in a statement, we are
now here monitoring airports make sure we don't end up
with an abola outbreak here at home.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Let's hope that all works out.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Meanwhile, experts are also warning that those same global health
cuts could lead to a reintroduction of malaria on US soil.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
After eradicating that back.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
In nineteen fifty one, the CDC issued updated guidance warning
that we are susceptible to reintroduction, which is not hard
to predict when you slash the programs that contain malaria abroad.
We've already had a local outbreak of malaria which was
contained back in twenty twenty three, so this risk is
in fact very real. Turns out, guys, you can't just
run around to the chainsaw acting programs you don't know
(31:51):
about and don't understand without some potential negative consequences. You
can't make it your stated goal to make life so
miserable for government workers that they all retire without losing
a few genuine experts who really actually mattered may have
been also particularly irreplaceable. It will take years just to
assess the damage that was done in the government destruction
feeding frenzy. It turns out all those people are tax sellers,
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were paying for all those programs we knew nothing about
that were just running in the background, tracking, researching, coordinating, preventing.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Some of those at.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Least were really pretty important, at least to those of
us who prefer to order their food without having to
play what one Twitter user described as poo poo roulette.
Let's consider the irony here though in public health, the
actual technical term for tracking pathogens is disease surveillance. That's
what food Net was the program they cut, and it
turns out that's the one and only kind of surveillance
this government has ever wanted. Less of endless money for
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watching you and not a dime to watch the parasite.
So Saber that is that is my take. Yeah, your
thoughts on the potential Taco Bell next this year, it's
pretty weak. I just want to say, in fairness to
Taco Bell, they are looking into it, but some of
the people who got sick didn't need it time.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Literally, just yesterday, my wife was going to make salad,
She's like, should I make the salad?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I'm like, make the salad.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I'm like, you're that kind of a guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I'll mean, look, I've got an iron stomach, I've spent
a lot of time in Asia. I think I'll be
all right. But so I ate the salad. We'll see,
We'll see if it works out. I mean, from the
Doge thing, I think.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I mean, it's been so long, so we even talked
about Doge.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Ultimately it came down to we got to it's the
same Republican trap of all time.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
We want to cut spending.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
We don't want to touch the military, and we don't
want to touch entitlements.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
There's seven percent of the federal budget left.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Most of it is stuff that most of us like,
like the Noah hurricane guys who fly into the middle
of a hurricane, or a US control yeah, air traffic control. Nonetheless,
we still want to cut x billion, so we got
to cut something. So yeah, this is the type of
stuff that you end up cutting and you have no
real idea. It's kind of a sledgehammer approach to the government.
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And meanwhile, every saving of DOGE would be wiped out
if the Trump administration simply passed their quested NDAA budget,
which would increase the budget to one point five trillion. Yeah,
every dollar that was allegedly saved will go to funding
some BS weapons manufacturing company. So ultimately, yeah, this will
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be their legacy. And actually we warned about it at
the time with there air traffic control. I remember, I go,
if you have any even single airplane crash, and like
you literally are on the hoo for it. So congratulations,
And you know, I think you're not even the first
person to draw this conclusion. I've seen it spread across
social media about how people are upset by these types
of things. In fact, this is the type of stuff
people want to see their government do and not increase
their military budget by wall.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Well, here's the thing is.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
You know, we joked about this on a Friday Show,
when we're talking about the screwworm, like it sounds like
studying the mating habits of the Mexican screwworm or New
World screwworm, I think is what it's called. Sounds like
a caricature, the sort of wasteful government spending. The Fox
News would be like, this is ridiculous, why are we
doing this? And then lo and behold, you actually did
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one layer deeper, and you're like.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
You know, that was kind of important.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
We should have probably kept doing that because now the
entire beef industry, the cattle industry in Texas is genuinely
at risk. We talked to, you know, expert on Texas
politics who really emphasized to us how much we're talking
about the Texas Center race, how much the screworm situation
is like a genuine wild card in terms of what
could happen in that Senate race. Because the the economic
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impact is massive, and then the cultural impact is massive too.
We are a beefeeding country. You know, we already have
beef prices that have skyrocketed. If you start having genuine shortages,
which is a possibility, that's going to really hit Texans
very hard. So in any case, you know, it would
have been nice. I'm sure there is government waste, fraud
and abuse.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Which could be cut Soger.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
It's all the Pentagon.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
We could if you cross the river as seban and said,
go to the Pentagon, you could find some, you know,
throw rock and find some if you you know, even
in terms of medicare fraud, we've got you know, we've
got members of the Senate who could tell you all
about that and.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
What about legalized to go?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
But like literal league fraud in medicare the fact that
they can't negotiate drug prices on the.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Top of the Yeah, that's fraud. That actually is it?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
What I know when I every time I see my
Fika and I think about that, it fills me with rage.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, the fact that we're overpaying for drugs, Yeah, for
no reason. It's literally anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
But I think we're you know, we're just at the
beginning of the process of finding out what were the
things that they destroyed that actually were useful and were
preventing genuine harms. So, in any case, a lot of
learning things the hard way in this country at this point.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Apparently all right, thank.
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dot Com. Turning out to Brad Parscale, a name some
of you may have forgotten at this point, but let's
put this up here on the screen. He was, of course,
Donald Trump's campaign manager for years. He raised hundreds of
millions of dollars. He himself had quite a bit of
(00:48):
controversy at the time, and so what has he been
doing in his retirement. Well we've known this for quite
some time, but Time magazine really dug into the details.
Trump's ex campaign manager, Brad Parscale is running in Israeli
influence operation targeting the MAGA base.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
So let me read. In case you have not heard
of any of this before.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Last September, the global ad agency HAVAS hired Brad Parscale's
firm clock Tower X to conduct a digital campaign on
behalf of the state of Israel.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
This is according to the Foreign Agents Registration.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Act filings, which were reviewed by Time magazine. Under Parscale's operation,
he would produce one hundred original pieces of content each month,
with he aimed at least eighty percent for gen Z
audiences across TikTok, Instagram, YouTube and podcasts. In services agreement,
Parscale pledged to amplify the campaign across social media, integration
(01:43):
of narrative messaging into the Salem Media Network properties, and
aligned distribution channels, which refers to the Christian Conservative Broadcasting
and Publishing company where he is the chief strategy officer.
He vowed that the effort would produce at least fifty
million digital impressions per month, as well as influence how
AI tools such as open ais Chat, GPT, Anthropics, clot
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and Google's Gemini characterized Israel.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And the war.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
For all of this, they agreed to pay some one
point five million dollars per month. And so what you
can see here is that you had a nearly forty
to fifty million dollar ad campaign which has now been
running for years in the background, exclusively targeted at the
magabase to keep them from staying on side whenever it
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comes to the issue of Israel. Now, we don't really know,
you know, who exactly has been ensnared in all of this,
but some of the names are at least familiar to
those of us on Twitter. So, for example, it is
not clear how much Brad Parscal has actually paid individual
influencers as part of this campaign. Other recent influenzable campaigns
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have offered them a base payment of twenty two hundred
twenty two to fifty plus one dollar for every one
thousand views up to two million, allowing them to earn
as much as four thousand, two hundred and fifty dollars
per post per post. So let's say and extrapolate this
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from Twitter. I'll just give people an example. Both of
us are Twitter blue, not by choice, by the way,
you know, It's like we were just kind of given
to us. And so I can see what my creator,
you know, output or whatever is what for all of
my tweets in a month we earn and all the
funds go to the company. It's like three hundred dollars
(03:35):
for every tweet that I put out. And I think
I haven't looked at the average impression or any of that,
but I'm sure it probably at least some of them,
some of the more viral ones, would meet this standard.
So they are paying ten times market value, so to speak,
all for pro Israel messaging, which is all being used
and coordinated by Power Scale, and this influence operation all
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on behalf of the state of Israel. I will say
one noteworthy piece, as an Israeli official actually said he
didn't even do a good job.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, the Israelis are like, look at our approval rating
in the US. This is not working. Like you, young
people hate us, whether they're on the right or the left.
So you're not what are you doing with his money?
It's not working?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Right, So at least you know one you know, funny
karmic thing in here is that the Israelis are bitching
that they didn't get enough value for their money and
paying So yeah, I mean, okay, Brad Parscal got.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Really rich, so that's good. Good for him.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Buy a couple more mansions in South Florida, but it
is still noteworthy because it reveals how there are so
many people who and usually the ones accusing us and
others of being Katari agents, who actually are on the payer. Now,
I'm not going to stay on the payroll of a
foreign government because it's laundered. You know, it's like, oh,
to an American thing. But ultimately the cash, if you
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were to trace it back, would be to the either
the Israeli government or some friends of the Israeli government.
And more importantly, it's inorganic, like in terms of what
they're posting, and usually it's the people who have the
most vicious accusations. It's really a confession the very people
who want to actually use Tucker Carlson or our show
or other.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I just had this recently. It's like your pro terror
funded media outlet. And you know, I often just want
to be like, okay, let's both of us, will it
independently audited our tax returns. Let's see who's got money
coming from a foreign because it ain't me. I can
guarantee you that you know and all, they would never
put up with any of that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, I mean, it is very it's first of all,
what a sleazy guy like so disgusting, and it really
does you know, we're about to place a JD Vance
club on Joe Rogan, Like it really is aimed at
undercutting the negotiations and any sort of potential diplomacy process.
Immediately after the MoU was signed, you saw all of
these right wing influencers. We don't know technically whether they
(05:46):
were all paid or not, but a bunch of them
similar language attacking the MoU, saying it was a disaster
for the US. You know, all this very coordinated looking
messaging coming from the right wing influencer community. But also
you know, I think like this is one very important vector.
I need you guys to understand how much of messaging
in the right wing media influencer space is paid for.
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Like there was another instant, remember we covered it when
there was all of a sudden, this very coordinated messaging
around some soda issue.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
They talk about this in Time magazine.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
You'll see things like that pop up where you're like,
what where did this come from? Or there was this
coordinated attack on Harley Motorcycles that appears to have been
funded by their competitor, and you all of a sudden,
had all of these right wing influencers who were like
deeply passionate about how Harley Davidson has gone woke, which
was preposteros, like based on literally nothing. But you'll see
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this and I'm not going to say there's none of
that on the left, but I can tell you it's
not the same.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
It genuinely isn't.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You had a whole scandal about the Chorus, you know,
influencer community.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
That was a thing, But I'm telling you you do
not have.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
The same level of expectation that you can just buy
people and they this is commonplace, it accepted among the
right wing media influencer class. We interviewed Kyle, and I
interviewed Ashley Saint Clair elon Musk's X paramore yeah X
all of this, and she was talking about how, yeah,
she'd be in these group chats and this is just
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how it works.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
So when you had that scandal.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Involving Timpoole and some other influencers who were like getting
the shady money, they were like, what's the problem.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Everybody does this. This is just normal. This is how
we operate.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
So I don't know, it's really wild, but people need
to understand that what you're seeing on Twitter, or the
content that's being produced, video content that's being produced that
is not necessarily just coming because of their neutral analysis.
Oftentimes there is someone behind the scenes who has a perspective,
has an interest, who is paying them to say what
they are.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I've been on the receiving end of this.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
So if somebody called me and said, I know you
really are passionate about sports betting, would you be willing
to post against a sports betting piece of legislation? I
was like, well, I was like, I don't accept money
for posts. Just tell me about it and maybe I'll
post about it or not. I don't get paid for
Twitter for anything, you know. And and I go wait
out of curiosity because I would love to meet this
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person who is paying to lobby against sports betting legislation.
And they said, oh, well, we're working for the prediction markets.
And I was like, oh, so the prediction markets are
paying people to lobby against legal sports betting so they
can be the only option. That's that's the level of
scumbaggery which is happening out there. Of course, I just
said no, I don't want you any I don't want
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your blood money.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Basically.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I also didn't even end up posting about it just
because it's so skeevy and so disgusting.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
But that's a perfect example. And then you know, the
way that they.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Justify this stuff is there's always like like soda, They're like, oh,
who cares, Okay, sure, I'll take a few dollars here
and there. At one point I saw there was this
whole scandal over India, like the government of India or
somebody had been paying these influence or some firm on
their behalf because Indians were under attack by a lot
of these like you know, groiper types, and so a
bunch of these right wing accounts are posting on behalf
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of India and then they got attacked and they deleted
an apology. I know this all may sound, you know,
a little bit byzantine, but this really does matter in
terms of taste making I think on the right wall.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And that's why it's important.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yes, and especially now you have you know, it's a
wild wild west in terms of journalism and media, which
in some ways is great. That's why we exist, right
It's enabled our ability to create the show and reach
an audience and all those sorts of things. But don't
leave your media analysis behind.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
We all understand, or viewers of this show, I think,
understand the way that corporate media is in flat fluenced
by their advertisers and by access journalism, by the sort
of journalists that they even select to be at those organizations,
and who's able to succeed and rise to the top.
Like we understand all of that in a lot of ways.
In the in quote unquote independent media ecosystem, the incentives
(09:47):
are vastly worse because, at least at corporate media, there
was a line between the people who were stelling YouTube
you're fired, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, you caught for taking direct
like corporate money or from any sort of interest and
then providing a viewpoint based on that, you would be
out the door here.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
It's just commonplace.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's just become an accepted part of the ecosystem to
have this sort of direct undisclosed pay for play. So
it was, you know, this is an important story obviously
because of how consequential the decision in making around the
Iran War is ultimately and so it was interesting to
hear Jade Vance talking to Joe Rogan about this and
(10:28):
the bands of course was the one who sent out
to do the negotiations and was trying to present to
Rogan this idea that like, oh yeah, we're bombing him again,
but I promise we're getting back to the negotiating table.
We'll see if that works out. In any case, he
had a lot to say about this foreign influence operation
that is being run to undermine the negotiations.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Let's take a listen to that.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
But I definitely think you have seen this very discreete
extremely well funded campaign to try to derail the negotiation
and try to derail the deal. You know, there was again,
there's this time article that came out yesterday. A friend
send it to me. It's like worth reading because it
lists a bunch of people who have quite literally been
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paid by a former Trump campaign person who was himself
paid by certain elements within the Israeli government. And those
people are attacking me viciously for quite literally trying to
accomplish the negotiation objective that the President's set for the country.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
So what is their position, like, are they're attacking you how?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Oh, it's it's social media posts, it's you know, they're
leaking to reporters. They're attacking me obsessively saying that we
should not be negotiating with Iran. We should just keep
the military campaign going indefinitely. Let's say certain elements of
the Israeli government want to criticize the deal or have
disagreements about the deal. I don't even mind an effort
(11:51):
to try to influence. You know, foreign governments try to
influence the United States all the time. You know, Israel
does it, other countries do it.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
It's just sort of.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
The nature of the beast. What bothers me is actually
when Americans allow, meaning American leadership allows that influence to
affect their judgment and to affect what they're advocating for.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So let me just point out that his boss took
how much money from Mary Mandelson for campaign?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
And then you have the audacity to be like, oh, the.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Money and the influence, it's like the influencing politicians. That's
what's really terrible. I don't know, that's a lot for
me to swallow.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Fair, I will say.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
The reason why, I mean, it's kind of interesting that
you would call it out in the first place. The
reason why is I think is I don't think he
would if it weren't actually influential on his ability to
negotiate and within the administration, because I can tell you
how this all works. It's all happening right now because
Jad basically just said the same stuff on Rogan they
alway says about Israel. It's like, look, I mean, look
at that, and this is why it's so tortured and
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why am I opinion The proseral position just ultimately has
to collapse, So you have to twist yourself in a
nons of like I don't even mind if the tries,
you know, every other country tries. It's like fucking Estonia
is not trying as much. Estonia does not have nearly
as much influence.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Did you know we have.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
More of a legal responsibility to protect Estonia than we
do Israel.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Do people even know that?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
But I think both the nuts just so you know,
but you know, just in terms of the level of influence.
My point around this is those posts are all you
and I know how this works to the extent.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
That I tweet it all because I really don't much anymore.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I only really do it to either either put an
opinion out there like for fun like weed or Daylight Savings,
or to influence the debate in the White House because
I know that these posts gets surfaced and passed around
and group chats and others to influence the debate against
each other. That's why Laura Lumer does what she does.
That's why she's out today attacking Joe Rogan, Mark Levin,
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Randy Fine, and just to show you all how.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It's online administration to incredibly advance is really like the
pinnacle of that online nature. I mean, that is really
how he developed a lot of his view and became
prominent in the right wing media ecosystem space.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, so what I mean, Yes, he rode the online
space to the Senate and arguably, I would say to
the Vice President and largely you know, that's what set
him apart from a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Of the other people who were GOP politicians.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
What I find fascinating though, is, let's put this one
up here on the screen from Randy Fine, the senator
from or the sorry, the congressman from Tel.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Aviv aka Florida.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
But here he says, Randy Fine is now told White
House officials he will vote against every rule on the floor, which,
just so you know, rule on the floor is like
how you bring legislation. So this is a major pain
in the ass for Mike Johnson and for the GOP,
because what this means is that they will have much
more difficulty advancing legislation, especially when you have such a
narrow majority that's in the House of Representatives. What he
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says is he'll vote it until Trump fires Alex bruce Witz.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Brucewitz and name some of you may not know.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He was kind of the podcast whisperer of the Trump
and Trump campaign in twenty twenty four. He was the
one behind the Yvonne Joe Rogan, the Andrew Schultz interview
like a lot of stuff which you say whatever you want.
It obviously worked tremendously to Trump's benefit and kind of
set a cultural vibe of Donald Trump ahead of the election.
Bruce Witz has been one of the people who has
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been most vociferously attacking the Brad Parscale or not even attacking,
pointing out a lot of these pro Israel influencers are
all being paid off and saying you're undermining the administration.
How dare you not trust Donald Trump? So Randy Fine
finds it so important to fire this person who is
just elevating the fact that pro Israel influencers are being
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paid and that Parscale himself is being paid that he
is going to vote against every piece of legislation until
bruce Witz is fired by the Trump by Trump as
an advisor. We don't know how long and how far
this is going to go, but I just do think
that this is incredibly noteworthy for how he sees the
you know how Randy himself, of course, one of the
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most pro Israel piece you know, one of the most
pro Israel politicians in the GOP, he sees this so
as vital to his influence operation. And this has now
been endorsed by Mark Levin, who's like, great job, you know,
Randy fine. So you can see how for them they
find Twitter and like the battle of ideas there that
takes place as well as here in podcasts so important
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because what they need is to elevate this and show
that there's actually more backlash against diplomacy than there actually is.
Because if you're going to actually ask the American people
or do you support diplomatic effice war, they're like, yes,
of course, no question right. And for Trump, because he's
such a blank slate, they always try to use They
attack JD whenever they can attack Trump, or they use
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Trump to attack JD and this is all part of
what's going on right now, and it's very noteworthy.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
This is a separate issue.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I think Fox needs a big problem for declomacy too,
because they're still beating the drums of war. It's like
the one thing that they'll be critical of Trump on.
But I also want people to understand it's not just
like Twitter influencers. Brad Parscale is the chief strategy officer
for Salem Media, which has all sorts of properties. They
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have a whole radio network, they fund a podcast network,
they fund town Hall, Red State, Hot Air, PG Media,
They've got all this Christian content. They even fund some
like financial publication. So it's a large conservative media network
that Parscale is the chief strategy officer for, and overtly
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in his contract he says he pledged to amplify the
campaign across social media and through integration of narrative messaging
into Salem Media network properties and aligned distribution channels refer
into the Christian Conservative Badcasting and Publishing company where he
serves as chief strategy officer. It will not surprise you
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that our own Ryan Grimm confronted Scott Jennings, who is
part of this Salem Media Network over the foreign Israeli
ties and how that might influence his commentary that he
offers on his show.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Let's go ahead and this is E two. Let's go
ahead and take a listen to that.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
As a student, be as critical as you want, really
of the United States, you just can't be critical of Israel.
And also, and this is not personal the but there
is so much kind of money pouring in to push
us in that direction, even Salem Media where you do
your show, right, Brad Parscale, who is the chief strategy
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officer there is a registered foreign agent for the Israeli
Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Like this is an American I
think it's American, right Salem. Yeah, it's an American media
company whose chief strategy officer is a foreign agent registered
for the state of Israel. Let's thirty percent of this
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company is owned by Lara Trump and Don Trump Junior.
Like what so before we're talking about like who you know,
what is America?
Speaker 8 (19:13):
Who?
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Who should be an American? It's like, or can we
as Americans discuss this?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Let's get Scott's response.
Speaker 9 (19:21):
Yeah, so you you seem to have some issue with
Israel having a presence in the United States, or even even.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
On American I think we should be sanctioning even yes,
even on American universities. I think they should be sanctioned. Yes,
do you I think it should be I think I
think it. I think it should be criminal for an
American media company to take money from the Israeli Ministry
of Foreign Affairs, because I think they should be under
sanctions for what they did in Gaza.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
Do you believe that American universities should be taking money from,
say Cutter.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
If we want to do a broad around human rights.
Speaker 9 (19:58):
You seem to have singled out one country because put
by the way, as an ally of the United.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
They committed a genocide. Uh Cunter a lot of human
rights problems.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
There a lot of.
Speaker 9 (20:08):
Universities all about Arabia. Universities all of this country do
take Katari money. I'm asking you internationalism beyond Israel.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
I'd be okay with banning that too.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
They always they always.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Say, I know, they always think the Left isn't kind
of willing to condemn Saudi Arabian's, Like we're the only
people who cared about the genocide they were.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Committing in Yemen.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Go look at you know, the content that we do
about Ua and Sudan. But they always think that, oh,
they only care about Israel because I think they buy
the nonsense that it's based on anti Semitary and there's
not any sort of principal view around. Hey, we don't
want our tax dollars going to a genocide. We don't
want to see genocide committed.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Period.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I've had this hit so many times. They're like, Qatar
must be paying him. The Katari government hates me. Roll
the footage from our show during the World Cup where
we were talking about all of the abuse of their
migrant laborers and how corrupt they were. I was afraid
I might get arrested whenever I had to do when
I had to transit through Doha.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But yeah, they're gonna pay me some money just what
to speak out against Israel. It's a joke. It's just
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
That's all these people have, you know, it's all they
ever will last thing. We're just going to have a
small shout out here to al Yah Kobe, the friend
of the show.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, let's put him up here on the screen. Four.
He is one of the people who is named in
this article.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
In fact, I think.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
He's the only one, yeah, that was specifically like this.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
This one guy is definitely on the take.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So he he got very upset with Time magazine because
he disputed that he had been paid by Influenceable to
combat anti Semitism. But he does confirm he has worked
on Influenceable campaigns, according to a company official. Yeah, Kobe
did not say that he was paid to combat anti Semitism.
He did, however, say that he had not post anything,
but he didn't already believe. However, as you and I
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both know, even simply being paid to post opinions, you know,
is a way to basically prop them up inorganically. Ours
are completely and totally funded by a mass audience of
millions of people. So yeah, I mean sometimes you say
things that people don't agree with, etc. People can cancel
the members if they want, prefer you don't, but if
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you want to, I guess you can. But it's not
a direct like nobody this is my favor. And they're like, oh,
he's posting this wheed Pharma's paying him. I'm like, oh, yeah,
for sure. I would adventure to say the weed stuff
has probably cost us more money in the long run
than anybody who's ever signed.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Up for it. I don't give it shit. But that's
my point.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Just we are paid, you know, and supported by the
show because people believe in the mission. They are being
directly paid inorganically outside of any like real market force,
by either the government, the companies, or whatever. And that's
fundamentally is undemocratic because it makes them more overrepresented in
political discourse than they actually deserve to be.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
And this is why does this matter. It's not just
my influencers.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
They set the tone for the GOP members of Congress
and for all of these other people who are in
the White House and the administration others to make them
think this is a much more popular position.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Than it actually is.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yeah, And like, if you're being paid for something, then
you and.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You should disclose it, right, you should.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Absolutely disclose it. But just in terms of the way
that works.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Because I believe him that he genuinely holds horrific genocidal views.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I actually believe him in that.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I don't know if you guys remember he's the one
who came to fame as like a college student crying
about anti semitism and demanding of safe space and really
helped to launch the anti Semitism, woke turn on the
Republican right. But in any case, I believe him that
he genuinely and sincerely holds those views. But you know,
if you're being paid to post, then maybe you're going
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to post at a time when you wouldn't have otherwise. Maybe
you're going to go further than you would have otherwise
and try, you know, so you can get that engagement,
so you can get a larger paycheck. It even with
someone who has those views, it distorts and changes their incentives,
and it also creates a situation. You know, people can
talk themselves and all kinds of things if their paycheck
depends on it. So maybe things that you know on
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him or another influencer wouldn't have justified. They can talk
themselves into because it's financially beneficial to them.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
So it's sick, it's sleazy, and it's far far too common.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
So appreciate Time magazine digging into and exposing at least
this one node, and then the fact that it's Trump's
former campaign chief who is now directly at times at
least depending on whether Trump is in a pro peace
or a pro war mood that day, but is at
times directly undermining what Trump is trying to do.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I agree, all right, Oh I haven't done this in
a while, Crystal, What are you taking a look at?
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Taco Bell is now being investigated for potentially contributing to
the horrifying spread of the Cyclospora parasite, which has caused
a surge in explosive diarrhea. That illness can drag on
for weeks. It has already put dozens of people in
the hospital. Here's a report on that investigation, they say.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday that
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investigators have identified a likely epidemiological link among cyclostspor bass
cases in at least four Midwestern states Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia,
and Kentucky, marking the agency's clearest public indication yet that
many of the illnesses are connected by a common source.
Cases have been identified in at least thirty four states,
and additional confirmed illnesses could continue to increase through the
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end of August, according to officials. For their part, Taco
Bell has voluntarily pulled some ingredients like lettuce, cilantro, and
guacamole from the menu in certain hard hit locations as
the search for the source of the parasitic spread is investigated.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Some people afflicted with cyclosporiasis say they never ate at
Taco Bell, and the report does acknowledge that no specific
Taco Bell nexus has been identified, so honestly, who.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Knows so far.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Though states are reporting roughly seven thousand cases, with a
particularly severe concentration in the Midwest, federal reporting is way
behind the state totals. For a sense of the scale
of the outbreak, Though Michigan typically reports forty to fifty
cases for an entire year, this year, they've already identified
more than thirty seven hundred. Nationally, the CVC logged twenty
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seven hundred cases in all of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
We have more than doubled that in It's only mid July.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
State data suggests we've already blown past the previous all
time hive about forty seven hundred cases set in twenty nineteen.
What's more, all of these numbers are likely a significant
undercount because plenty of people seek care at home never
reported to the authorities, and also because testing for cyclist
spora is actually more difficult than other passage pathogens. One
confirmed patient described weeks of gastro intestinal hell, in which
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she was so severely afflicted at times she could not
move from the confines of the bathroom.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
No, it was pretty bad.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
It was.
Speaker 9 (26:39):
It was bad.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
It's embarrassing how bad it was.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
It was really bad.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Were there were moments where I was literally just camped
out in the bathroom and like, I don't care, I'm
just going to lay on this floor. And there was
like one night and I'm not a vomitter. One night
I did have an episode of just like it was.
That was actually the turning poorer. Wow, was like the
next morning, I'm like, Okay, we're going to the emergency
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room because I remember calling and my baby came in
and she's like, what do you need. I was like
something for me to get this out in, so she's
bringing me a trash can. And it was pretty bad.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
It was bad.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
It's not for the week, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Not for the week.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Contemplating this horrifying fate, all for the crime of indulging
in a crunch wrap, you may.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Be asking yourself, why has God forsaken us?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well, turns out fault lies not in the stars, but
in ourselves, or at least in the wretched government we
decided to elect For some reason, in their enthusiasm for
government destruction, the Trump administration decided it would be a
great idea to just stop requiring active surveillance for cyclospora
along with a host of other food borne illnesses like listeria.
In fact, now monitoring is only required for two pathogens
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that salmonilla and E.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Coli.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Let's consider the irony here. We're devoting endless resources to
building the human tracking panopticon, but when it comes time
to surveil and track explosive diarrhea causing pathoge and suddenly,
apparently I don't have the funds. This is all unfolding too,
amidst the backdrop of massive workforce cuts at the CDC
and across all of health and Human services. The CDC
alone is lost about a quarter of its workforce under
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Trump two point zero, including key experts among the agency's
disease detectives. Maintaining the previous surveillance regime would not likely
have stopped the outbreak, but the fact that it's spreading unchecked,
that the federal data is lagging way behind the state data,
and that no source still has been identified That all
speaks to the detrimental impact of all of these cuts.
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Former CDC communication staffer Sarah Boham, she was terminated in
the first wave of DOGE firings back in February twenty
twenty five. She described the toll here as generational. The
harm that's going to come to people that don't even
know what CDC was protecting them from. But this is
just the tip of the iceberg lettuce. Sorry, couldn't resist
that one. How would you also like little flesh eating bacteria?
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Maybe malarial reintroduction. How about a screwworm infestation or an
unmitigated bullet catastrophe. Did you vote for explosive diarrhea and
a resurgence of the measles? Because also impacted by the
pathage and surveillance cuts was a little guy called Vibrio.
Vibrio is a flesh eating bacteria causing serious illness icee U, hospitalization,
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limb amputation, and even death in one of five cases.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
It is spreading more widely.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Now due to the impacts of the climate crisis at
the same time that the trump edmin is undercutting our
ability to track and to study it. In fact, the
National Science Foundation began dismantling the deep Ocean monitoring network
critical for predicting the sorts of conditions in which Vibrio thrives.
The program was explicitly targeted by Project twenty twenty five,
claiming that the data was fueling climate alarmism. Now, let
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me ask you, do you think it's climate alarmism to
want to know a little something about flesh eating bacteria. Fortunately,
outcry from Congress did lead them to reverse those original plans.
But moving on from the CDC, we got a significant
screw worm spread, causing chaos and the cattle industry. This
parasitic blowfly had been around dedicated in the US. Now
it's back, and unfortunately for beef enjoyers, the USDA unit
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responsible for fighting it, the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service,
lost two thousand and nine employees under DOGE. That is
twenty three percent of the entire service. USDA overall shed
roughly twenty thousand workers in a single year. Now, Agriculture
Secretary brookroledge, she claims that the idea Doge caused this
could not be further from the true truth. She instead
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blames Biden and illegal immigration. She has, however, failed to
provide any evidence of this claim. USDA's own report, though,
estimates a Texas outbreak could cost the state one point
eight billion dollars. Meanwhile, if we look overseas, we can
see the impact of our global aid cuts on disease
prevention around the world. There is, for example, a particularly
bad outbreak of a bullet in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
It's one of the worst in history.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
In fact, experts say that has been worsened by USAID
cuts and US withdrawal from the World Health Organization. Quote
without the same amount of funding from USAID, the International
Rescue Committe, which partners to deliver frontline health surveillance and
outbreak preparedness activities in Congo, curtailed its programs. Funding cuts
have left the region dangerously exposed. Heather reach kerr IRC's
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country director for Congo, said in a statement, we are
now here monitoring airports make sure we don't end up
with an abola outbreak here at home.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Let's hope that all works out.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Meanwhile, experts are also warning that those same global health
cuts could lead to a reintroduction of malaria on US soil.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
After eradicating that back.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
In nineteen fifty one, the CDC issued updated guidance warning
that we are susceptible to reintroduction, which is not hard
to predict when you slash the programs that contain malaria abroad.
We've already had a local outbreak of malaria which was
contained back in twenty twenty three, so this risk is
in fact very real. Turns out, guys, you can't just
run around to the chainsaw acting programs you don't know
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about and don't understand without some potential negative consequences. You
can't make it your stated goal to make life so
miserable for government workers that they all retire without losing
a few genuine experts who really actually mattered may have
been also particularly irreplaceable. It will take years just to
assess the damage that was done in the government destruction
feeding frenzy. It turns out all those people are tax sellers,
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were paying for all those programs we knew nothing about
that were just running in the background, tracking, researching, coordinating, preventing.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Some of those at.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Least were really pretty important, at least to those of
us who prefer to order their food without having to
play what one Twitter user described as poo poo roulette.
Let's consider the irony here though in public health, the
actual technical term for tracking pathogens is disease surveillance. That's
what food Net was the program they cut, and it
turns out that's the one and only kind of surveillance
this government has ever wanted. Less of endless money for
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watching you and not a dime to watch the parasite.
So Saber that is that is my take. Yeah, your
thoughts on the potential Taco Bell next this year, it's
pretty weak. I just want to say, in fairness to
Taco Bell, they are looking into it, but some of
the people who got sick didn't need it time.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Literally, just yesterday, my wife was going to make salad,
She's like, should I make the salad?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I'm like, make the salad.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I'm like, you're that kind of a guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I'll mean, look, I've got an iron stomach, I've spent
a lot of time in Asia. I think I'll be
all right. But so I ate the salad. We'll see,
We'll see if it works out. I mean, from the
Doge thing, I think.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I mean, it's been so long, so we even talked
about Doge.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Ultimately it came down to we got to it's the
same Republican trap of all time.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
We want to cut spending.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
We don't want to touch the military, and we don't
want to touch entitlements.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
There's seven percent of the federal budget left.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Most of it is stuff that most of us like,
like the Noah hurricane guys who fly into the middle
of a hurricane, or a US control yeah, air traffic control. Nonetheless,
we still want to cut x billion, so we got
to cut something. So yeah, this is the type of
stuff that you end up cutting and you have no
real idea. It's kind of a sledgehammer approach to the government.
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And meanwhile, every saving of DOGE would be wiped out
if the Trump administration simply passed their quested NDAA budget,
which would increase the budget to one point five trillion. Yeah,
every dollar that was allegedly saved will go to funding
some BS weapons manufacturing company. So ultimately, yeah, this will
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be their legacy. And actually we warned about it at
the time with there air traffic control. I remember, I go,
if you have any even single airplane crash, and like
you literally are on the hoo for it. So congratulations,
And you know, I think you're not even the first
person to draw this conclusion. I've seen it spread across
social media about how people are upset by these types
of things. In fact, this is the type of stuff
people want to see their government do and not increase
their military budget by wall.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Well, here's the thing is.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
You know, we joked about this on a Friday Show,
when we're talking about the screwworm, like it sounds like
studying the mating habits of the Mexican screwworm or New
World screwworm, I think is what it's called. Sounds like
a caricature, the sort of wasteful government spending. The Fox
News would be like, this is ridiculous, why are we
doing this? And then lo and behold, you actually did
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one layer deeper, and you're like.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
You know, that was kind of important.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
We should have probably kept doing that because now the
entire beef industry, the cattle industry in Texas is genuinely
at risk. We talked to, you know, expert on Texas
politics who really emphasized to us how much we're talking
about the Texas Center race, how much the screworm situation
is like a genuine wild card in terms of what
could happen in that Senate race. Because the the economic
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impact is massive, and then the cultural impact is massive too.
We are a beefeeding country. You know, we already have
beef prices that have skyrocketed. If you start having genuine shortages,
which is a possibility, that's going to really hit Texans
very hard. So in any case, you know, it would
have been nice. I'm sure there is government waste, fraud
and abuse.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Which could be cut Soger.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
It's all the Pentagon.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
We could if you cross the river as seban and said,
go to the Pentagon, you could find some, you know,
throw rock and find some if you you know, even
in terms of medicare fraud, we've got you know, we've
got members of the Senate who could tell you all
about that and.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
What about legalized to go?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
But like literal league fraud in medicare the fact that
they can't negotiate drug prices on the.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Top of the Yeah, that's fraud. That actually is it?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
What I know when I every time I see my
Fika and I think about that, it fills me with rage.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, the fact that we're overpaying for drugs, Yeah, for
no reason. It's literally anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
But I think we're you know, we're just at the
beginning of the process of finding out what were the
things that they destroyed that actually were useful and were
preventing genuine harms. So, in any case, a lot of
learning things the hard way in this country at this point.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Apparently all right, thank.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
You guys so much for watching. We appreciate it. The
Friday Show for everybody tomorrow, so they'll see you then.
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