Ryan and Saagar discuss McConnell still missing, Abdul Vs Stevens debate, Saagar loses it over senior property tax breaks.
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Is he alive? Nobody knows? Well, I guess some people.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Now we have some great news for the audio.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, yeah, Well, according to Scott Jennings, he may certainly
still be alive. And here he is on CNN where
he claims that he spoke with Mitch McConnell for twenty
minutes and he was totally cojin But when asked, can
we get him on the phone right now?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Crickets, let's take a listen.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Do you think he'd be willing to call into the show,
could we get him on the phone?
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Now, you know, I wasn't really expecting him to call
the morning, to be honest, So when the phone rang
and I was able to talk to him, I was
I was frankly pretty grateful. I mean, as as I said,
I've known him since I was a teenager. If it
hadn't been for Mitch McConnell and the McConnell's Center at
the University of Louisville, you know, I would never have
been able to go to college. He's been my mentor,
and he changed the trajectory of my life. So you know,
(01:17):
when things happened to him and happened to people in
your life that you really care about, you know, you
just sort of naturally feel extremely worried. So when I
heard his voice today and he was clearly keeping up
with stuff, that made me happy to hear from him, because,
like everybody else, I've been, you know, somewhat in the
dark about it. But to hear him talking and that
know that he's also talking to the Senate leadership, it
made me pretty happy.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
The mega media ecosphere, shall we say, has been driving
a lot of the questions about where Mitch McConnell has
been and what has happened to him. You, of course,
are in tune with that in the role you have
on your radio show. Do you think they should put
out a picture of Mitch McConnell, that he should release
(01:58):
more of the public to quiet this noise?
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Yeah? I think I think Al had a good point
about McConnell's general disposition towards privacy. I sometimes wonder, like
if I were laying in a hospital bed, but I
want a bunch of.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
People around photographing me.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Probably not, particularly if I were an eighty four year
old person who's normally private about his health. Probably not.
But I look, I take the criticism. I think it's
a fair question about transparency. I think it's a fair
question about whether they've done enough. But ultimately, these office holders,
you know, they're they're in charge of their own operations,
and and you know it may be somebody around him
(02:35):
says let's put out a picture and he doesn't want
to do it. I think I think that's a that's
a fair observation from Al. But all I can tell
you today is all the rumors about him being dead
or brain dead, or you know, being his body's being
hidden somewhere. I've seen all kinds of crazy things on
the internet. That's obviously not true, because he picked up
the phone and called me, and that was a that
was a good thing.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
That was a really long way of saying, No, I
can't get him on.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
The phone, right Yeah, for a picture or a picture
that I could get you.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I don't want to accuse you of lying, but because
that's an extraordinary thing to lie about. But that is,
this is so weird. So and now obviously now.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So our producer Mac thinks that there's an AIM campaign
going on right now.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
That's not good for I'm.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Just floating Miss mccon's first.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
He thinks that there's like somebody using it, which I mean,
it is possible in today's day, and who would put
considering the track record Finestein of the guy who just
disappeared for three and a half months empression for I mean,
it's so many of these Who was the guy walking
around Senate with Alzheimer's and everybody knew in thing?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
No Wickers still I think he's still all there. No
Fad Cochrane. That's sorry, but that Cochrane.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Everyone knew that he was. Everyone knew that and nobody
said he.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Was walking on with a diaper.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
It was only afterwards, after I think he resign or
something like that, that everyone was like, hey, yeah, we
all knew that he had been out to lunch for
a long time, Like, well, it would have been nice
if all said something, you know, and so you know,
how could you put it above? Really like some sort
of lying campaign. Again, I'm not alleging in it any
way that that's what happened. I'm more just saying like,
there are genuine questions here to be asked because the
(04:17):
circumstances are so nuts, and these tweets that these guys
have put out, let's put.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Them up here.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
This became a meme online. Is for example, like before
Scott went on the air, he said, I spoke to
my old friend Mitch McConnell this morning, the senior senator
from Kentucky, still recovering in the hospital. We talked just
sh I have twenty minutes about Iran, Ukraine all caps
for some reason, the unfolding situation in Maine, all caps,
my visit to the tr Presidential Library, and even a
little bit of Senate history. I told him we want
(04:42):
to see him back at work. As soon as possible.
And then there was also another statement that put out
from Senator Barasso. Senator Barasso and Senator McConnell had a
lengthy conversation early this afternoon. Their phone call lasted twenty minutes.
They caught up about the latest news impacting state Senate races, etc.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Et cetera.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
McConnell is fully engaged, as fully an eager to get
back to the Senate, and so they claim. But now
we have this new statement from the governor, we could
put that one up there on the screen, guys, where
the Democratic Governor of Kentucky has now sent a letter
to the office of Mitch McConnell requesting an update on
his health and proof being one proof of life and
(05:23):
made growing concerns around the senator's ability to serve. We
have not yet received that statement.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
So Thomas Massey has also come in and said that
he has spoken with McConnell. Yes, he posted, he said,
I spoke to McConnell for about twenty minutes this morning.
He said we should end the war with Iran, quit
giving aid to Israel, stop spying on Americans without a warrant,
and he's really sorry about how my primary turned out.
Since then, McConnell has not disputed the characterization of Massey
(05:54):
of this alleged phone call. Hassan Piker twitch streamer also said,
I can read his post. He said, just got off
the phone with miss McConnell. We had phone sex.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Oh, so he could deny it.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
McConnell of course could deny this. It wasn't true.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, McConnell's should come out and he could deny it.
Of course we have not yet, and.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
This tweet has three million views. So if McConnell is scrolling,
he has seen this and has yet to deny it.
Let's pit see for what was Producer Max produser Mac
had a good one too.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I hadn't seen his Mac.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You could send yours and we'll read it here on
the air. After I read this statement from Elaine Chow.
So Elaine Choo, his wife, the daughter of a Taiwanese
billionaire with deep ties to the Chinese Communist Party, who
recently just took a trip to China while her husband
was languishing in the hospital at eighty four years old,
two days after heart attack. Truly loved to see a
(06:51):
good love story here at the end, It's just like
the notebook, but she releases a statement saying the Secretary
was on a long plan trip to China to support
her family's philanthropic endeavors. During the trip, she met with
a number of people, including the US ambassador. The senator's
health did not warrant an immediate return to the United States.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
It could be read multiple ways.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, they added, Chow has since returned from her trip.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Is back in the.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
United States, not in Kentucky, that can be United States.
Her staff did not say if she's been in contact
with McConnell since returning home. You have to read Max, Okay,
what is it? What does he got? He says, just
got off the phone with Mitch McConnell. He told me, ah, shit,
it's hot. Fuck, there's so much fire. Oh that's good,
(07:47):
all right, got.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Too soon, But it's not too soon because he's alive
and well. The only reason this is funny as because
we know that he's alive and well and yeah, recovery
said joke. And he will return to work his old
form very soon.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Let's put the lyes Les put Ce five up here
on this screen inside the McConnell health Rumor Mill. This
is from axios, so they're trying to report it with
a straight face.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I'm like, I can hear what they.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Say is Senate GOP leaders say they have spoken with McConnell.
As speculation swirls among MAGA influencers about the Kentucky Republicans health,
McConnell has been hospitalized for roughly three weeks no information
about his condition. Both the Senate Majority Leader and John Barrasso,
as well as Scott Jennings, all claimed that they had
spoken with him. They had lengthy and substantive conversation. However,
(08:42):
influential MAGA voices have fueled speculation about his health status.
Laura Lumer has claimed, without evidence, the senator is brain
dead and hoked up to machines.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
She is now alleging a cover up.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Glenn Beck says we need the truth about Mitch McConnell now.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
The party spent four years sizing Joe Biden's health is
now silent on mcconnald's. Under Kentucky state law, if the
Senate vacancy were to occur before August third, the special
election would be held quickly to fell the seat, Whereas
if a vacancy were to occur after August third, then
the Senator would be elected in November as planned, And
so obviously that's pretty important, especially in the midst of
(09:20):
the EMS call cardiac arrests audio that we played for
all of you. By the way, Trump is either in
on it or doesn't want to say. He was asked
yesterday a board Air Force one, do you know anything
about McConnell's health, and he said, I haven't spoken to him,
and I have no idea what's going on.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
So Trump is at once the biggest liar on the planet.
But also you can't lie.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yes, sometimes, yeah, you can't lie.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Right, That was the most that was In my opinion,
that was a very revealing thing because if he actually was,
you know, very healthy or whatever and was talking to people,
he would assume he would call the president. Look, I
have no idea. His wife is in China. It's weird
cardiac arrest. You only got three people aimed to have
spoken to him on the phone. I mean, you got
(10:04):
no updates from his Health's been three weeks in the hospital.
He's an eighty four year old man. It's all very
very sketchy, sketchy. All right, let's get to Abdullah said.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
The two remaining Senate candidates for the Democratic primary in
Michigan met for a debate this week. Abdul Elsaiad pressed
his opponent, Haley Stevens on her fealty to Israel and
her contributions from APAC.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Let's take a listen to that the congressman needs to
answer is why has she allowed forty million dollars of
outside spending, the bulk of it coming from APAC, to
come into this race. I don't think Benjamin ettinaw who
is attacking her, to actually attack her. I think he's
attacking her to try and steer away the stink of
how staunchly she stands for their policy.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So let's take that opportunity.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Explain what you've given away for APOC support in this race,
Wary COSTUPO.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
No one owns my vote and no one owns my policies.
Anyone who is contributing to my Senate campaign is doing
so because of my proven record of fighting for Michigan,
what I did when I served as chief of staff
on the US Auto Rescue saving two hundred thousand Michigan jobs,
and what I have done to get the Chips and
(11:17):
Science Act passed and signed into law. What my opponent
needs to answer is why is the GOP spending thousands
of dollars to prop up his campaign saying that he
will make Mike Rogers the next US Senator.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
By the way, Haley stevens work on the auto bailout
is in fact her top calling card for that primary,
because it's extremely popular. What rom Emanuel said, we should
just let Detroit go bankrupt, and he was overruled by Obama.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
That was Romney.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
He wrote that op ed Romney Robin. It really hurt Romney.
It's twenty twelve campaign. But internally Roma men had said
just don't do it. There was a big fight over it,
and Haley Stevens to her it was on the side
of we need to implement a bailout for Detroit.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Right, But UAW indoorspetmus u AW.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yes, that's that's a key point. So her number one
thing is undercut by the fact that the UAW is
behind el said. Now, if you noticed in there, abdul
Saide is referring to Netnyaho attacking her. Something extraordinarily interesting
happened earlier that day, right before the debate that people
(12:28):
are frustrated about and suggesting that it was coordinated. So
let's play this clip of net Yahoo on CNN with
Dana Bash.
Speaker 9 (12:41):
Congresswoman Haley Stevens, she's running for Senate in Michigan, said,
Benjamin Yetta Naho has made us less safe. He has
frankly put Jews in an uncomfortable position across the country.
Speaker 10 (12:53):
Have you.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Well, it's it's made her uncomfortable because she can't stand
up for a the truth. She's trying to probably excuse
anti Semitism.
Speaker 9 (13:03):
You know, he's not She's I mean, I just want
to explain it. She's somebody who supports Israel. She supports
funding Israel, which is diminishing big time among Democrats and
even some Republicans in the United States Congress.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
It is very clear that mister Netnyahu has not made
us safer, has not brought us closer to peace, and
he's endangered Jews here in America and around the world.
This is why he was just trashing me today on CNN.
I am not afraid of bullies. I am not afraid
to stand up and I continue to stand up for
(13:38):
humanitarian aid, for the US to work with the countries
in the region and get aid into Gaza.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And so Sagar and the lead into that question, Dana
bash had said, a lot of Jewish leaders here in
the United States believe that your behavior is making Jews
in America less safe. For instance, Haley Stevens has said
x this.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Is the new line.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
By the way, is that this raw Emmanuel Hailey Stephens
line is it's BB's fault.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It's all about BB. Right, Yeah, Israel is good, but
Bbe is bad.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
But Hailey Stevens, by the way, is not Jewish. A
lot of people have made the claim, made the claim
that Dana bashe's talking about and frankly, I think she's
correct about it. Uh, why did she pick Hailey Stevens,
who is not Jewish as a stand in for Jewish
leaders in the United States.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Oh yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Because she had a debate that night against Abdul al Sayad.
Stevens repeatedly referenced net Yahou attacking her in that debate.
It was her biggest defense against the fact that Apak
is spending millions of dollars to support her. And so
even if Politico reported on this in a rather straightforward
(14:50):
like way, is calling out the cynicism of it. That
of how how how direct the link seemed to be
that this was, that this was being weaponized in her
in her on her behalf.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Right zoom out right.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Is that Dana Bash asked the question about Hayley Stephens
bbe attacks her. Stevens uses that attack as a direct
link and as a direct retort in the debate against
all said's most potent attack against him democratic.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, maybe Dana Bash didn't know there was a debate
that night. Maybe it was a coincidence. In any event,
it was a very fortunate turn of events for Haley Stevens.
Now she also takes an enormous amount of corporate money,
and Abdulall's side hit her on that let's roll D three.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
To get their way and now you can buy a
cheap TV, but you can't find a manufacturing job that
can actually feed your family. That is the devastation of
corporate bought politics. Is the only candidate who's never taken
a dime from a corporation. You know I'm going to
stand up for you. It's the reason again w nurses
AFT have all supported us, because when it comes to
the choice between working people and corporations, I will pick
people every time.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
Yeah, and it's the only reason you haven't released your
tax returns and fifteen labor unions are endorsement.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Has another sugaring respond quickly, very quickly.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Yeah, I took the same extension that the congressman took
every single year.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Returns extend.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
There's a problem putting money in your pocketbook.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Right, So she's hitting him on having a filthy rich
spouse basically, and he hasn't, you know, put his tax
returns out. Filthy rich people have very complicated turn but
also they have very embarrassing tax returns in a country
that purports to believe in some sort of galitarian as right.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, seeing on paper, if you ever look at a
super rich person's taxes like this, The first of all,
it's like a book, but the top line where you
see income and then you see what they pay, You're
like holy shit, You're like, wait, you got to keep what?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
What? How is that exactly?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I thought we had a progressive tax system.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Ho. You're like, wait, your effective tax rates fifteen percent
and mine's like forty.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
You know, how does that work.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I'm not talking about me specifically, I'm saying, you know,
if if you like, if you factor in whatever the
what's it called, like the FIKA and everything else, compared
to what some of these private interesting barons are I'm assuming.
So he keeps alluding to his wife's real estate. That
means they pay nothing. These real estate right, real estate
guys watches all constantly just doing depreciation and all this other.
(17:15):
And you said so much they're paying nothing in taxes. Yeah,
so you know he's got a low taxic that's what props.
That's why Trump paid nothing for like twenty fours. Yeah,
that's what they all do, everybody. That's what all of
them say. It's like, if you actually really want to
get wealthy and pay zero taxes, just buy real estate.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
So Meddi Hassan hit him on this a little bit.
Let's go to D four. Here's alside and Maddie.
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Ailey Stevens has also attacked you and Mike Rodgers for
being millionaires who, she says, conveniently did not file their
twenty twenty six personal financial disclosures. You sought an extension
through August thirteenth, I believe, which is after the primary.
Was this to avoid transparency with your vehters? Why not
release them before the election?
Speaker 7 (17:51):
No, just taxes get complicated my wife and her family
owned property abroad, and so getting all those tax forms
is a thing. And this is, by the way, the
same extension that.
Speaker 10 (18:00):
She said, you're a millionaire and you're hiding that.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Well, if you take my assets and hur my wife's
assets together, then I guess they add up to something
like that. But my career has never been about trying
to maximize on money. Otherwise I would have just gone
and been a surgeon. But you know, my focus has
always been on public service. And it's interesting to try
and compare apples to oranges here. If you file on
your own, then of course your assets look like one thing,
which Congressman Stevens does. If you file with a partner,
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your assets might look like something else.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
He's also he's sitting on a boatload rich.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Rich people always extend anyway, right, So they don't file
until October, like regular people file in April. Rich people
file in October.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Exactly, and you have to pay in April, right, rich
don't they file?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
But they don't pay, so yes, so there's nothing there's
nothing really to pay.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Can I give a defense here of Abdul I was
telling you earlier, I've been telling the group chat this
for days.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Rich wife populism is as old as time.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
If you look at some of the reformers throughout their
eighteen hundreds and others. A man of letters need needs
a gentried wife who's rich whose father struck it rich,
not her specifically, it needs a gentried wife too, so
that he can pursue his letters in public service. This
is a tale as old as time. And so you've
got Rokanna, Mary's a filthy rich wife. You've got Abdul
(19:17):
who Mary's a filthy rich wife, both Indian American filthy
rich wives, which is very cool.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And then who else have you got?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You've got Richie Stunach, right, I mean he's not a populist,
but you know Richie Sunach, who is the Prime Minister's
married some Indian billionaire Beto married a filthy rich woman
as well. I think that this is a tale as
old as time is. To pursue public service, you need
to marry into money. And so I have I have
an extraordinary amount of a leeway and defense for men
who marry into very very rich families. I think I
(19:44):
think it's kind of a it's a very Lindy phenomenon
going back all the way to the British Empire.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Cole Marx's wife is doing pretty well.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, her father, Lennon's wife, I forget. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
No, she was a revolutionary, right, But I mean it
doesn't mean you can't be rich. There was a what
do they call it, like the Red Duchess or something,
a really rich, really rich duchess in Europe who funded
a lot of the communists. Yeah, these newspapers and.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Stuff very common, right, And you need a gentried, rich
woman to be able to support your dream as a man.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
You know, I support rich.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What's wrong with that?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like Frederick Engels, Frederick Engels, you're exactly right. So yeah,
I have a total defense here of Abden of Abdul
of Row. You know, every time the Row of Trading
figures come out, it's like, bro, it's his wife.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
He's not him sitting around doing this.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
But he's like what he is he gonna do? He's
gonna tell her what to do. You can't be doing that.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
It's her money.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
He's literally trying to pass federal legislation right to.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Stop his So you do what you need. If it's
your money, keep doing what you need to do.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
You also saw him saying the clip that if he
really wanted to get rich, he would have become a
surgeon rather than a public health official. And that was
his He was the public health official for the state
of Michigan. He was widely credited as having done a
good job. That's been his kind of his calling card
in the campaign. But that means he also has never
been a practicing physician. Meddi. The right wing has been
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beating him up on that. Helly Stephens consultants have been
beating him up on that. I don't quite think that
one lands Medi went back and forth him a little
bit on that. Let's roll D five.
Speaker 10 (21:24):
You got attacked by your rivals for calling yourself a physician,
not just a doctor, even though you don't have a
valid state medical license in New York or Michigan, which
apparently is what you need legally to call yourself a physician.
Do you wish you'd just stuck to calling yourself a doctor,
which you are, to avoid all of this controversy and
attacks on your physicians.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
You know, at the end of the day, it's not
about whether or not I'm a physician or a doctor.
The question is can you see doctor? It's not about
my education. It's about whether not your kid gives a
good education, so time.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
But people would say it's also about did you tell
the truth?
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Well, I would say that I was the health director
for the city Detroit, and I've done more to provide
more people health care or eliminate their medical debt than
most the doctors have done in their practice career.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I don't know how I feel.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
So it was a Detroit, I said statewide. I thought
it was wide like Detroit.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Full tuition scholarship to the University of Michigan Medical School.
Did in two years there, he led the mission, then
went on to receive an MD. Yet did that in
twenty fourteen. He completed an MD at Columbia University, so
he has an MD, but he did not He also
went to Oxford. Yeah, it looks like he did. He
(22:32):
did a Rohose scholar a Rhodes scholarship, so he is
very highly educated.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
We'll give it.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
The guy's got the credentials.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
But he is not a doctor.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Or if he's an MD, so the doctor is going
to get urias of me. He's an MD, but he's
not a board certified physician because he didn't do residency
or he didn't complete residency. Remember this was a controversy
with the Surgeon General woman who Withdrew Casey means because
she also never completed residency and she was going to
be a These are the scholar, no doubt, doctors get
(23:02):
very upset about these types of things about when I
get it, you all worked very very hard, you know,
just zooming out a little bit and looking at the
polling before we go to the property tax stuff, Ryan, what.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Is HD in public health at Oxford? If that makes sense?
But then the mds so many credittions.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
What is your take here about these types of attacks
on Alsaiet because I mean, we shouldn't we shouldn't misrepresent
it like they are tied virtually in the pulse right,
it does seem to be a battle between the old
and the young Alsai. It's favorables with young people are astronomical.
So he's got a lot of the activists on his side,
(23:40):
and he's trying to do some more crossover appill with
old people, which we'll talk.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
About it for in a second.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Turns out he wants to win.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
He wants to win.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
But just before we you know, do our fun segment
about property tax like, what's your read on the race
as it stands now? Like, how do you think she
came out of the debate? Especially looks he got some
great hits on her. But these have been really boosted
by the Republic. That's what we're showing it to you.
These Mandy Hassen clips, they're all over social media and
Michigan Mahaley Stevens campaign as well. Who are really using
(24:09):
them to attack ELSI? It's credibility. So I'm curious what
you think.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I mean, with enough money, everything makes something of a dent.
And I didn't think that was a great answer. It doesn't.
It was he had this can line, It doesn't matter
about my education. It matters about your kids education. It's
like if you went if you have a PhD in
an MD, and you went to your Rhodes scholar and
you went to Oxford and University of Michigan Medical School,
(24:34):
go ahead and say that, like, because they're going to
imply like people are going to take away from that. Oh,
he didn't even go to medical school, right. It's like
if you went to medical school and got a PhD
in public health and you were the City of Detroit's
public health director. What are we talking about. You're obviously
a doctor here, but it's you know, now it's a
(24:54):
head to head match, and she's going to be able
to outspend him through super Pac support significantly from not
a Democracy Project, APAC, super Pac plus, you know, the
entire kind of world that doesn't want to see el
Side's politics dominate. They're trying to use Platner against him, which.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yes, that's that's very much been happening because they share
because he's a manology Well no, no, it's because he
has the same type of online supporters. And actually that's
the next thing I want to put up. Can we
put up this NBC thing? I put it assented to
the chat. This was really fascinating. So the latest hit,
according to this NBC News article, which is about inside
the you know, slugfest of the Senate primary, is Hailey Stevens'
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campaign wants to paint el Sayad quote as a sexist
podcast bro because he's appeared on a show like ours.
I think with Didney campaign with Hassan Piking they did right,
So it's things like that where they want to use
the podcast bro. Image of Maga from twenty twenty four
to basically smear him and say, oh, he's one of
(25:58):
these online bro.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
In this sphere.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
So Democrats in a year have gone from we need
our own Joe Rogan because we need to reach out
to men. Two.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
He has been on podcasts, yes, and podcasts are bad.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Podcasts are bad, all of them. Here's a podcast bro,
and therefore he needs to be reject.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
That is a victory that spells defeat if I've ever
heard of.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
It's a cynical, cynical take. Well, I don't know, because
it seems to me because it's a swing defeat long
term fair. Absolutely, it seems to me like people getably.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Going to win.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
No, I mean, Mike Rogers, like, I'm sorry, you're cooked
in a wave election year where Trump Trump, I mean,
Michigan is what I would say is one of his
least strong states that he's He won it twice first
time twenty sixteen is like ten thousand votes. Second time
around for sorry, third time around. I forget exactly how
much he wanted. It wasn't a lot, like in terms
(26:55):
of the margin, like he won Pennsylvania, I believe more
than he won by Michigan. Michigan is a tough tough
place for Donald Trump. And so then if you factor
in less than one hundred thousand votes, less one hund
k votes, I mean, it's just not a lot of
votes Michigan. So if you got and Alyssa Slackin was
also able to win at the same time, So the
split ticket already and that's in a Republican wave election.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Hoopy win behind his back. He won by with the
way behind his back.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
He barely wins, you know, that election.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
If Gaza doesn't happen, or if Kamala does a does
a better job, she potentially wins Michigan just to those
noble didn't come out to vote. So all those people
are going to come out to vote for the Democrat
I think, no matter what.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So then it's a big question of like, okay, so
where the.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Deocrats, dearborn come out for Hailey Stevens.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
No, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I don't think she'll need it as much as Kamala did,
just because of the way that things are this time around.
So it's a very high, very high stakes primary, it
really is. And the the I think the CNN stuff,
the CNN manufacture.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Whatever you want to call it. I'm not alleging anything.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
But allowed her to blunt that the most damaging attack.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
On sure that I see lately I have and I
say this with like no morality or anything.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I admire the democratic establishments.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
What'spa right, because they've taken so many l's recently in
all of these DSA elections, They're like, Okay, we can
no longer run on Israel itself, so what we need
to do is manufacture other is like me too with
Platner here, not manufacturer as in they're paying her or anything.
I'm just saying like they they're certainly using it to
(28:26):
great effect to get him out of the race and
to take over the entire system. And then here they're like, oh, well,
what we do is we get BB to attack her
and then they use that as evidence that she's you know,
middle road or whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
On is that that may be enough?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
You know, if some for some boomers who are out there,
who are largely it seems to be her constituent.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
If you're a boomer watching Abdulla l Side wants to
cut your.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Property, yeah, don't do it, Ryan, don't do it. We're
not we are not stupid to that level. All right,
let's get to property tax, so as Ryan alluded to
in one of the most disappointing, disgusting, craven, repulsive statements
ever uttered by an American politician. Here's Abdul l said,
(29:13):
who clearly wants to win, who says he wants to
freeze senior property taxes.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
I think we need to be freezing property tax for seniors.
If you paid off your home at some point, we
can't expect you to keep up with property taxes that
are going up.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Now, how do we pay for that?
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Well, again, if we tax billionaires their wealth, if we
were to invest in the Department of Education so that
we're paying centrally for public schools in an equitable way,
there are a lot of opportunities for us to lift
the burden office seniors who've done their job, They've worked
extra hard. They deserve a dignified retirement, and we've got
to be thinking about how to offer them.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
That they deserve a dignified retirement. They they deserve a
federal bailout of Michigan Michigan schools, and we're just going
to pay for it with these fancy billionaire taxes. And look,
you know, I'm not some guy who's anti wealth tax
or anything. I don't particularly care you screw ultra rich
people whatever. Use it as punitive care, that's all fine.
(30:07):
But ultimately this is about bailing out seniors and a
false premise, which is, if you've paid off your home,
you deserve to live there forever. This is a literal
violation of the American dream, and specifically of the housing
mechanics and the way that it all works, right, because
first of all, it presumes if you've paid off the house,
that means you should no longer have to pay for
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any public services whatsoever, from the roads to the police
to the fire department, when we actually know that old
people are disproportionately using them. Also, property tax, the vast
majority of that funding goes to local education. Now, his
presumption here that the federal government should bail out the
state of Michigan and all of their localities actually is
a conservative nightmare. And even if anybody who cares about localities,
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it means that the Feds will have near total control
over what you can and can't do in your schools.
One of the best things about America, specifically our education system,
if you want to say, is that if you live somewhere.
Let's say you disagree with something it's happening in your school.
Because you pay in, you actually can change it. You
really can. We saw this with anti woke or even woke.
(31:11):
If you want whatever you want to do, COVID mass
parents actually got mad and in some cases they won.
They beat the system whenever it came to a showdown.
If it's all up to the Feds, you have no
power whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
And then let's talk about the housing mechanics part, because
this is the part that really bugs me.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And I'll be callous. I don't care because I'm not
a politician.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Which is, if you are a senior and you pay
off your home and then you no longer have to
have any property tax, there is no market incentive to sell,
you will never sell, which means that these neighborhoods will
not turn over.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
And you have seniors who.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Occupy the vast majority of the housing stock, who have
no financial pressure whatsoever, who will stay in these new homes,
who will then not turn them over to the next generation.
People say it's unfair because the property tax has gone up.
The tax only goes up if the house value goes
up too, and So if you did not pull yourself
up by your bootstrap maybe and do enough saving over
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the course of your life, and you didn't plan for
your property tax, why does that mean you get to
hold a financially appreciable asset, pay nothing to be able
to maintain it, receive all city services, give nothing back
to your community, and hold up all of the housing
stock that there is. This is slopulism, That's what it is.
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It's a cynical way to win. Older voters who are
not currently voting or supporting abdulh sayat that's what it's
all about, and the unfortunate, and people are like, oh,
or why do you care so.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Much about this?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It would be funny if it weren't literally sweeping the nation,
which I'll approve to you all. There is now between California, Florida,
which is about to abolish property tax, and Texas, which
has just done the exemption. You will have nearly one
hundred million Americans by this time next year in a
boomer Reich system where they occupy all the housing stock.
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They don't pay as much as you or I do
if we own a home for a property tax, and
they are depleting the system meanwhile demanding social security where
they say they have fixed income, which is literally cost
you know, which literally goes up by inflation. When is
the last time we got an inflation adjusted race? If
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you're under sixty five, when's the last time you got.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
An inflation adjusted race?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
In fact, you almost certainly got a decrease because the
wages have not kept up with inflation since nineteen seventy
or whatever. So they get inflation adjusted rays. You get nothing,
and you get less services, and you need to pay
more in taxes. So I'm off my soapbox.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
You though, the other thing that elderly homeowners would do
with this property tax abatement, and you could theoretically write in,
write in the legislation to try to preempt this, but
what they would do is move out, go somewhere else,
and then rent this property that they now don't have
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to pay property tax on and then just collect the
rental income on it. So what it does is it
takes takes more housing stock off of the market, which
drives up home prices and just makes it harder for
people who don't own a home yet to buy one
because they aren't selling it. Because think about it, if
if you sell it to somebody younger. That younger person
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now has to pay property taxes if they wanted to
rent it. The amount of profit that they would make
by renting it is reduced by the amount of property
tax they have. Corre, you don't have to pay the
property tax, so you're incentive then to rent it and
then just go somewhere else and buy another one that
you also don't have to pay property tax on.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Well, they'll they'll, they'll claim all kinds of nonsense, but
primary home and all this to get around this.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
But look, even in the primary.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Could and live there for six months because because you're
traveling to the Danube, right.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Because I will say what nobody else wants to, which
sometimes you will have to sell. If your property has
gone up from one hundred and seventy grand to two million,
and you're drowning in property, then sell the home, move
into a million dollar house, take the profit. You can
keep your property tax forever. Oh and by the way,
somebody else can buy that home and maybe the raise
their family in it. You know, the most heartbreaking thing
is in localities across this nation. The neighborhood I grew
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up in is a good example.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Full of kids. No longer full of kids.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Why everybody still lives there, right, same people still live there,
kids are grown and gone. Guess what kids? They all
live in another neighborhood. Now, it was a nice neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I liked it there. And that's happening across the nation.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You got elementary schools closing because the fertility rate is down,
and because in a lot of the traditional suburbs, nobody
wants to leave. All the rich people, rich boomers are
all staying there. And then people who are in families,
they got nothing. They're either in the rent air class
or they got to go somewhere else and try and
do something. And look, you could say, well, oh that's
just the market reality. And the boomers are always you know,
coming back to me and it's like, well we had
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fifteen percent interest rates. I'm like, and the same question
I always ask, what was the wasting? What was the
price income ratio? What was the pricing income ratio? It
is like two or three hundred percent more than it
was even twenty five years ago compared to the current
median home price, and that's four hundred and eighty five
thousand today is the median home price, but that factors
in all of these lower cost of living areas, and
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if you were living in a medium or high cost
we talked about San Francisco in our last show.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
It's one point seven million.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
That's an extreme example, I get it, But in many
higher cost of living areas trying to millions of dollars,
literally millions of dollars. And that's why the average first
time home buyer is anywhere between thirty seven and forty five,
and that the average buyer of a home today is
age fifty, right, is because they're the only people with
the cash to be able to do so. So that's
ultimately what Abdul is trying to set in. Let's put
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E two up here on the screen. I took this
from his website and this is again is the worst
possible thing. On his website, he says we will freeze
follow the senior, not the property. The assessment freeze does
not transfer on sale or death. When the home changes hands,
it will reassess it market value. This preserves local tax
based integrity over time, so as I if a senior
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sells the property to an under sixty by person, they
will then be hit with a property tax reassessment to
current market value.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Now here's why I.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Think it's sick because this people took this the wrong way, saying, well,
anytime somebody sells a house that they get reassessment market value.
You're right, But the freezing of a property tax means
that there's no appreciation or incentive to sell. This is
what happened with California in proposition thirteen. It is exactly
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why California's housing market is as messed up as it
is today. There is no incentive for people who bought
between the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties at very
very low values, who have frozen property tax or step
ladder increases, to sell, even though their homes have appreciated
in some cases by two, three, four, five hundred, even
one thousand percent in places like Santa Monica.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
So what do you do?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
What you'd have to do is it means that the
younger buyer has to have more cash on hand and
budget at a much higher price than the scene who
gets to live there, which locks the housing stock up forever.
It has destroyed the California housing market. Now, this would
be a proposition because Abdul Frankly, he's running for United
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States Senate. So he wants to do this nationally, all right.
I mean technically he doesn't have the authority, but somebody
could preempt that type of behavior. And I just want
to show you all what happens when states start doing
this stuff. Let's go to the next one. This is
from Florida. It just happened yesterday, all right, So Tampa,
the city of Tampa.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
How many years.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Now you and I have been hearing? Oh, all these
families are moving to Florida. It's such a great place
to live. It's cheap, and they don't have to wear masks,
and you have all this freedom. Well here's part of
the freedom they're about to have. So in Florida, counties
are now preparing for the total elimination of property tax
or a phase reduction. Hillsborough County, that's where Tampa is.
Here's what they write. A lengthy list of possible responses
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to the elimination will include eliminating or reducing county services
like parks and aging services, closing underused facilities, and increasing
or adding new assessments such as higher fuel tax and
more park fees. So that means, Ryan, you got four kids,
I assume you live at that park, because right, it's
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easy's free take them there if you let them run around,
burn some energy. Kids just started walking. So this is
we're in that phase right now. Now every time you
go though, pay up. You gotta pay. Say sorry, because
these boomers over here, they don't want to pay property tax.
You when you take your kid to the park, you
gotta pay all right, fuel tax. You want to go
somewhere to take your kid to the park, Sorry, it's
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gonna cost you.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
All right.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
There's toll roads everywhere in Florida. So this is what happens.
You got no income tax, you've got no property tax.
Now where's the money going to come from. It's going
to come from somewhere. The disney the Disney crew search
charge can be about to be five hundred dollars for
every person who comes out of state and the people
who live there.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
It's going to be hell.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Should the fuel tax not apply to elderly people too?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Right? Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
They drive less, so why oh they don't use it?
All right?
Speaker 3 (39:57):
So this is what leads to this type of logic
where elder people when they were young to pay.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
To pay a different tax rate based on your age
is crazy. Yes, Also for the age cohort that has
more wealth to pay less tax, I know than the
age cohort that has less wealth is completely insane. Right.
The whole idea of treating people differently based on their
ages on American it's maybe on constitutional like what about
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equal protection?
Speaker 1 (40:26):
And like, of course, what you think they're gonna they're anyone?
How can we even challenge it?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
And this person to show you about the slopulism point,
you can't even conceive how popular these things are if
you were to tell the two areas. I get the
most hate on weed and this actually maybe more energy
about this. I've received actual death threats over weed, but
I'm waiting for my real death threats that are coming
from just saying, hey, we shouldn't have unequal tax codes
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based on age.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Let's put E four up here. Take a look at
the polling. This just happened yesterday.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Two thirds a Florida vote support the property tax of course,
two thirds. So you got the old with this old state,
you know, uh, And they're all like, yeah, why not?
Why should we have to pay? Screw them? I don't
use the park anyways. Not my bid business, not my
problem schools. My kids are grown, doesn't matter. Who cares
about the next generation or my grandkids, doesn't matter. That's
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how selfish they are the people who support these types
of things, And that's that's why Abdel is doing this,
and that's why it's sickening, because you know, guys like
him there, they talks a big game about principles and
all that, and I'm sure you know, take a lot
of hits, but like, ultimately they're politicians. He looks his
poll numbers, he wants to win, and this is overwhelmingly popular.
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And just in preparing for this segment, I found four
different state and localities, actually five, another one this morning,
E five.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Let's put it up here. This from Boston.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Okay, Michelle Wu, who is supposedly some lefty great person mehir.
Michelle Wu signs city order to expand property relief for
older homeowners. Okay, so to provide relief for these older homeowners.
Let's go to the next one. What do we find Indiana?
Indiana Governor Brown eyes property tax breaks for seniors and
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assessment changes. Quote, once you get to sixty five, maybe
you ought to have some relief from your own government
to not have property taxes after that, he said, So
I'll be looking for enterprising legislators to see if they're
hearing that too. The other thing I hear is, once
you've paid off your mortgage, why should you then have
a fixed cost Generally that's going to be later in life.
With a twenty five to thirty year mortgage, you'll be
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approaching retirement. He says he doesn't want to starve local
units of government, but said that those expenses shouldn't rise
beyond what taxpayers can afford, and we could make up
the revenue elsewhere. Let's go to the next one, shall we.
Pennsylvania Democrats all right, Pennsylvania House It votes to funded
property tax cuts for seniors by levying targeting big tech companies. Now,
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I don't care about big tech companies. That's totally fine.
Tax them, I don't give a shit. But what does
this mean is you have a property tax cut. They
will take that revenue and only make up for the
property tax of seniors, not for any of the other
younger home buyers. And that's that's you know, right now,
I'm just fighting for parody. But if I were really fighting,
what would I say. Let's say the people who got
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the money bought the property tes for the first time,
for the first time home buyer will even means tested.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I don't care, all right, you know that's fine.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Of the three things, by the way that I just read,
only one of those was means tested for lower income seniors,
which is Boston. Even then, I'm against it just because, yeah,
I think it's unfair. It's like, why do you what
lowering lower income single mom doesn't get a break, the
lower income senior gets a break. Which one do you
think needs more of a break? If it is binary?
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Ultimately because of the government. I mean, you can google
in even these states. Indiana, what have they done for
a young family in the last three months?
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Pennsylvania, same thing. What find me find find me something
and I will read it here on the show all
the energy and then find eight let's put it up
here Republicans. So this is bipartisan Ohio law machers approved
three hundred and fifty million in property tax relief for seniors.
So it's because they vote at the end of the day,
and that's what.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
It's all about.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
It's not just that they vote. It is definitely that
they vote. It's also a function of the population declined absolutely.
The number, like the number of people graduating high school
is now, has declined the last couple of years. And
this is something we can project with certainty basically with
immigration being the only variable, because we know who was
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born eighteen years ago and who wasn't, and the population
and the birth rate are going down, and as a result,
the young people in the voter pool, who participate at
a much lower rate anyway, are much fewer to begin
with relative to the biggest generation. Now, the boomers are
not going to be here forever, but they're going to
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be here for a long time, right.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Last one, I just I literally found this one this
morning because a friend of mine overnight texted me this.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Let's put it up here on the screen.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
One of the leading candidates for governor in South Dakota
name is Toby Dodin. He says, space, it's out property tax.
Guess what, South Dakota. They don't even have an income tax,
just like Florida, who's gonna pay Where's the money coming from?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
It's outa sales tax. They have a low sales tax.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Alrighty, yeah, where's it gonna.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Come from from?
Speaker 3 (45:18):
The people who drive through the state, who go to
Mount Rushmore. I mean, where is the money.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Driving your soybeans on dirt roads?
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Right exactly.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
It's like so you read through and you're like, oh, okay,
so how's he gonna make up? And he said, oh,
maybe we'll do a luxury a luxury goods tax.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
I'm like, okay, I'm fine with me.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
But ultimately what they write, because the South Dakota papers,
you know, went through their proposal, it's.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Not gonna make up the one point eight billion.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
So where's a lot of luxury goods being purchased in
South Dakota.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
It turns out no offense South Dakota, you know, no offense? What'so.
It's a beautiful state.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
But it's like, you know, even in these states, and
this is what I mean when it's sweeping the nation.
You got Florida, Texas, California, literally three out of the
four most populous states.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
I'm sure New York I haven't checked.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
I'm sure they have some a BS exemption that already here,
which is.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
On the books.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Now you've got the senator potential from Michigan who wants
to enact this nationally.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
We're talking about trillions.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Of dollars in bailouts, if that were to become the
policy of the United States or even the smaller states.
Now they're like, oh, let's hop on the bandwagon. Vivig
Ramaswami Ohio. Guess what he picked it up. Yeah, let's
pay no, let's pay no sales tap everybody wants to
Why not win win win, as in win for the boomers,
win for the politician.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, it's sickening.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
And you know, last thing, last thing is I said,
I don't even have this one here in the show,
but I read this Wall Street Journal story last night,
and it was about schools, and as you just said,
with population decline and fertility rate, he got all these
schools were just rotting. Now nobody's even using them, so
they're now converting them into luxury senior housing.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
That's a monument. People say, don't you want them to move?
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Yes, you're right, Thank you for moving and for going
to see your housing. You're right, But is that not
emblematic of the problem that we have.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
This is Japan.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
This is what it's all going to look like twenty
thirty years from now. You know, the whole economy is
going to be like this in terms of healthcare and
aging services. We're already getting there, but twenty thirty years
from now, that's what the whole thing is going to
look like.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
My elementary school shout out to Warton Elementary School in
Kent County is not a luxury condo yet, but it
is shut down. They wouldn't be able to sell luxury
condos there. My middle school was called Chestertown Middle School.
It is now called Kent County Middle School. In other words,
it is the only middle school in the entire county.
(47:34):
My high school was called Kent County High School. It
still exists. It's like half the population that it was before.
And people say, seniors will say, well, we don't use
the schools. You rely on the people who go to
school to wait on you at the restaurants, to mow
your lawn, you know. To as for home health aids,
(47:59):
society produced.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
We live in a society. We live in a society period.
It's like the mean, yes, you have to pay for
the next generation. People are always like, oh, just because
you had a kid and you want money now from
the government, you exempt me. Put me in the legislation.
I will get nothing. I don't want anything. It's rough people,
you know, it's just I just checked College Hill's elementary
shout out in College Station.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Looks like it's still going.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
So there we go.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
All right, we got we got something.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
But Texas one of the few places you can probably
buy a home because it's cheap, or at least or
cheaper than it's overall nationally. It's sad, man, it really
is sad, and it's sweeping the country, and you're just
going to see more and more and more. This just
shows you five examples literally from across the political spectrum,
six actually, including Abdul l Sayad.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
And it's just going.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
It will continue to sweep this. I predict twenty twenty
eight you will see mass freezing and or elimination of
property tax in I'm gonna call half the states of
the youth, half the states in the Union, and probably
the two thirds of the US population in the next
five years.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
As a politician, as you say no to this, you're dead.
Your opponent's gonna be like, well, I'm gonna cut your
property text exactly if peop were like, all right, well,
good sweet, You're not gonna do anything else, so at
least I'll take that.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
It only works if we all fight back all right,
thank you very much for having me, Ryan, It's been
a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Bro Show. Crystal'll be back next week, and.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
We'll be back as well.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Well, we'll be back everything only restored.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
Very convenient that they all traveled this week, Isn't that's right?
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Sticking us with the platinum situation. It's okay, that's fine.
I stuck them with I'm sure if something bad happened
whenever I was gone as well. All right, we will
see you guys tomorrow Friday Show.
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See then,
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Is he alive? Nobody knows? Well, I guess some people.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Now we have some great news for the audio.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, yeah, Well, according to Scott Jennings, he may certainly
still be alive. And here he is on CNN where
he claims that he spoke with Mitch McConnell for twenty
minutes and he was totally cojin But when asked, can
we get him on the phone right now?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Crickets, let's take a listen.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Do you think he'd be willing to call into the show,
could we get him on the phone?
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Now, you know, I wasn't really expecting him to call
the morning, to be honest, So when the phone rang
and I was able to talk to him, I was
I was frankly pretty grateful. I mean, as as I said,
I've known him since I was a teenager. If it
hadn't been for Mitch McConnell and the McConnell's Center at
the University of Louisville, you know, I would never have
been able to go to college. He's been my mentor,
and he changed the trajectory of my life. So you know,
(01:17):
when things happened to him and happened to people in
your life that you really care about, you know, you
just sort of naturally feel extremely worried. So when I
heard his voice today and he was clearly keeping up
with stuff, that made me happy to hear from him, because,
like everybody else, I've been, you know, somewhat in the
dark about it. But to hear him talking and that
know that he's also talking to the Senate leadership, it
made me pretty happy.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
The mega media ecosphere, shall we say, has been driving
a lot of the questions about where Mitch McConnell has
been and what has happened to him. You, of course,
are in tune with that in the role you have
on your radio show. Do you think they should put
out a picture of Mitch McConnell, that he should release
(01:58):
more of the public to quiet this noise?
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Yeah? I think I think Al had a good point
about McConnell's general disposition towards privacy. I sometimes wonder, like
if I were laying in a hospital bed, but I
want a bunch of.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
People around photographing me.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Probably not, particularly if I were an eighty four year
old person who's normally private about his health. Probably not.
But I look, I take the criticism. I think it's
a fair question about transparency. I think it's a fair
question about whether they've done enough. But ultimately, these office holders,
you know, they're they're in charge of their own operations,
and and you know it may be somebody around him
(02:35):
says let's put out a picture and he doesn't want
to do it. I think I think that's a that's
a fair observation from Al. But all I can tell
you today is all the rumors about him being dead
or brain dead, or you know, being his body's being
hidden somewhere. I've seen all kinds of crazy things on
the internet. That's obviously not true, because he picked up
the phone and called me, and that was a that
was a good thing.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
That was a really long way of saying, No, I
can't get him on.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
The phone, right Yeah, for a picture or a picture
that I could get you.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I don't want to accuse you of lying, but because
that's an extraordinary thing to lie about. But that is,
this is so weird. So and now obviously now.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So our producer Mac thinks that there's an AIM campaign
going on right now.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
That's not good for I'm.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Just floating Miss mccon's first.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
He thinks that there's like somebody using it, which I mean,
it is possible in today's day, and who would put
considering the track record Finestein of the guy who just
disappeared for three and a half months empression for I mean,
it's so many of these Who was the guy walking
around Senate with Alzheimer's and everybody knew in thing?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
No Wickers still I think he's still all there. No
Fad Cochrane. That's sorry, but that Cochrane.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Everyone knew that he was. Everyone knew that and nobody
said he.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Was walking on with a diaper.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
It was only afterwards, after I think he resign or
something like that, that everyone was like, hey, yeah, we
all knew that he had been out to lunch for
a long time, Like, well, it would have been nice
if all said something, you know, and so you know,
how could you put it above? Really like some sort
of lying campaign. Again, I'm not alleging in it any
way that that's what happened. I'm more just saying like,
there are genuine questions here to be asked because the
(04:17):
circumstances are so nuts, and these tweets that these guys
have put out, let's put.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Them up here.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
This became a meme online. Is for example, like before
Scott went on the air, he said, I spoke to
my old friend Mitch McConnell this morning, the senior senator
from Kentucky, still recovering in the hospital. We talked just
sh I have twenty minutes about Iran, Ukraine all caps
for some reason, the unfolding situation in Maine, all caps,
my visit to the tr Presidential Library, and even a
little bit of Senate history. I told him we want
(04:42):
to see him back at work. As soon as possible.
And then there was also another statement that put out
from Senator Barasso. Senator Barasso and Senator McConnell had a
lengthy conversation early this afternoon. Their phone call lasted twenty minutes.
They caught up about the latest news impacting state Senate races, etc.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Et cetera.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
McConnell is fully engaged, as fully an eager to get
back to the Senate, and so they claim. But now
we have this new statement from the governor, we could
put that one up there on the screen, guys, where
the Democratic Governor of Kentucky has now sent a letter
to the office of Mitch McConnell requesting an update on
his health and proof being one proof of life and
(05:23):
made growing concerns around the senator's ability to serve. We
have not yet received that statement.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
So Thomas Massey has also come in and said that
he has spoken with McConnell. Yes, he posted, he said,
I spoke to McConnell for about twenty minutes this morning.
He said we should end the war with Iran, quit
giving aid to Israel, stop spying on Americans without a warrant,
and he's really sorry about how my primary turned out.
Since then, McConnell has not disputed the characterization of Massey
(05:54):
of this alleged phone call. Hassan Piker twitch streamer also said,
I can read his post. He said, just got off
the phone with miss McConnell. We had phone sex.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Oh, so he could deny it.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
McConnell of course could deny this. It wasn't true.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, McConnell's should come out and he could deny it.
Of course we have not yet, and.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
This tweet has three million views. So if McConnell is scrolling,
he has seen this and has yet to deny it.
Let's pit see for what was Producer Max produser Mac
had a good one too.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I hadn't seen his Mac.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You could send yours and we'll read it here on
the air. After I read this statement from Elaine Chow.
So Elaine Choo, his wife, the daughter of a Taiwanese
billionaire with deep ties to the Chinese Communist Party, who
recently just took a trip to China while her husband
was languishing in the hospital at eighty four years old,
two days after heart attack. Truly loved to see a
(06:51):
good love story here at the end, It's just like
the notebook, but she releases a statement saying the Secretary
was on a long plan trip to China to support
her family's philanthropic endeavors. During the trip, she met with
a number of people, including the US ambassador. The senator's
health did not warrant an immediate return to the United States.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
It could be read multiple ways.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, they added, Chow has since returned from her trip.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Is back in the.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
United States, not in Kentucky, that can be United States.
Her staff did not say if she's been in contact
with McConnell since returning home. You have to read Max, Okay,
what is it? What does he got? He says, just
got off the phone with Mitch McConnell. He told me, ah, shit,
it's hot. Fuck, there's so much fire. Oh that's good,
(07:47):
all right, got.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Too soon, But it's not too soon because he's alive
and well. The only reason this is funny as because
we know that he's alive and well and yeah, recovery
said joke. And he will return to work his old
form very soon.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Let's put the lyes Les put Ce five up here
on this screen inside the McConnell health Rumor Mill. This
is from axios, so they're trying to report it with
a straight face.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I'm like, I can hear what they.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Say is Senate GOP leaders say they have spoken with McConnell.
As speculation swirls among MAGA influencers about the Kentucky Republicans health,
McConnell has been hospitalized for roughly three weeks no information
about his condition. Both the Senate Majority Leader and John Barrasso,
as well as Scott Jennings, all claimed that they had
spoken with him. They had lengthy and substantive conversation. However,
(08:42):
influential MAGA voices have fueled speculation about his health status.
Laura Lumer has claimed, without evidence, the senator is brain
dead and hoked up to machines.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
She is now alleging a cover up.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Glenn Beck says we need the truth about Mitch McConnell now.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
The party spent four years sizing Joe Biden's health is
now silent on mcconnald's. Under Kentucky state law, if the
Senate vacancy were to occur before August third, the special
election would be held quickly to fell the seat, Whereas
if a vacancy were to occur after August third, then
the Senator would be elected in November as planned, And
so obviously that's pretty important, especially in the midst of
(09:20):
the EMS call cardiac arrests audio that we played for
all of you. By the way, Trump is either in
on it or doesn't want to say. He was asked
yesterday a board Air Force one, do you know anything
about McConnell's health, and he said, I haven't spoken to him,
and I have no idea what's going on.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
So Trump is at once the biggest liar on the planet.
But also you can't lie.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yes, sometimes, yeah, you can't lie.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Right, That was the most that was In my opinion,
that was a very revealing thing because if he actually was,
you know, very healthy or whatever and was talking to people,
he would assume he would call the president. Look, I
have no idea. His wife is in China. It's weird
cardiac arrest. You only got three people aimed to have
spoken to him on the phone. I mean, you got
(10:04):
no updates from his Health's been three weeks in the hospital.
He's an eighty four year old man. It's all very
very sketchy, sketchy. All right, let's get to Abdullah said.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
The two remaining Senate candidates for the Democratic primary in
Michigan met for a debate this week. Abdul Elsaiad pressed
his opponent, Haley Stevens on her fealty to Israel and
her contributions from APAC.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Let's take a listen to that the congressman needs to
answer is why has she allowed forty million dollars of
outside spending, the bulk of it coming from APAC, to
come into this race. I don't think Benjamin ettinaw who
is attacking her, to actually attack her. I think he's
attacking her to try and steer away the stink of
how staunchly she stands for their policy.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So let's take that opportunity.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Explain what you've given away for APOC support in this race,
Wary COSTUPO.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
No one owns my vote and no one owns my policies.
Anyone who is contributing to my Senate campaign is doing
so because of my proven record of fighting for Michigan,
what I did when I served as chief of staff
on the US Auto Rescue saving two hundred thousand Michigan jobs,
and what I have done to get the Chips and
(11:17):
Science Act passed and signed into law. What my opponent
needs to answer is why is the GOP spending thousands
of dollars to prop up his campaign saying that he
will make Mike Rogers the next US Senator.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
By the way, Haley stevens work on the auto bailout
is in fact her top calling card for that primary,
because it's extremely popular. What rom Emanuel said, we should
just let Detroit go bankrupt, and he was overruled by Obama.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
That was Romney.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
He wrote that op ed Romney Robin. It really hurt Romney.
It's twenty twelve campaign. But internally Roma men had said
just don't do it. There was a big fight over it,
and Haley Stevens to her it was on the side
of we need to implement a bailout for Detroit.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Right, But UAW indoorspetmus u AW.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yes, that's that's a key point. So her number one
thing is undercut by the fact that the UAW is
behind el said. Now, if you noticed in there, abdul
Saide is referring to Netnyaho attacking her. Something extraordinarily interesting
happened earlier that day, right before the debate that people
(12:28):
are frustrated about and suggesting that it was coordinated. So
let's play this clip of net Yahoo on CNN with
Dana Bash.
Speaker 9 (12:41):
Congresswoman Haley Stevens, she's running for Senate in Michigan, said,
Benjamin Yetta Naho has made us less safe. He has
frankly put Jews in an uncomfortable position across the country.
Speaker 10 (12:53):
Have you.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Well, it's it's made her uncomfortable because she can't stand
up for a the truth. She's trying to probably excuse
anti Semitism.
Speaker 9 (13:03):
You know, he's not She's I mean, I just want
to explain it. She's somebody who supports Israel. She supports
funding Israel, which is diminishing big time among Democrats and
even some Republicans in the United States Congress.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
It is very clear that mister Netnyahu has not made
us safer, has not brought us closer to peace, and
he's endangered Jews here in America and around the world.
This is why he was just trashing me today on CNN.
I am not afraid of bullies. I am not afraid
to stand up and I continue to stand up for
(13:38):
humanitarian aid, for the US to work with the countries
in the region and get aid into Gaza.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And so Sagar and the lead into that question, Dana
bash had said, a lot of Jewish leaders here in
the United States believe that your behavior is making Jews
in America less safe. For instance, Haley Stevens has said
x this.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Is the new line.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
By the way, is that this raw Emmanuel Hailey Stephens
line is it's BB's fault.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It's all about BB. Right, Yeah, Israel is good, but
Bbe is bad.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
But Hailey Stevens, by the way, is not Jewish. A
lot of people have made the claim, made the claim
that Dana bashe's talking about and frankly, I think she's
correct about it. Uh, why did she pick Hailey Stevens,
who is not Jewish as a stand in for Jewish
leaders in the United States.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Oh yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Because she had a debate that night against Abdul al Sayad.
Stevens repeatedly referenced net Yahou attacking her in that debate.
It was her biggest defense against the fact that Apak
is spending millions of dollars to support her. And so
even if Politico reported on this in a rather straightforward
(14:50):
like way, is calling out the cynicism of it. That
of how how how direct the link seemed to be
that this was, that this was being weaponized in her
in her on her behalf.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Right zoom out right.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Is that Dana Bash asked the question about Hayley Stephens
bbe attacks her. Stevens uses that attack as a direct
link and as a direct retort in the debate against
all said's most potent attack against him democratic.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, maybe Dana Bash didn't know there was a debate
that night. Maybe it was a coincidence. In any event,
it was a very fortunate turn of events for Haley Stevens.
Now she also takes an enormous amount of corporate money,
and Abdulall's side hit her on that let's roll D three.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
To get their way and now you can buy a
cheap TV, but you can't find a manufacturing job that
can actually feed your family. That is the devastation of
corporate bought politics. Is the only candidate who's never taken
a dime from a corporation. You know I'm going to
stand up for you. It's the reason again w nurses
AFT have all supported us, because when it comes to
the choice between working people and corporations, I will pick
people every time.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
Yeah, and it's the only reason you haven't released your
tax returns and fifteen labor unions are endorsement.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Has another sugaring respond quickly, very quickly.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Yeah, I took the same extension that the congressman took
every single year.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Returns extend.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
There's a problem putting money in your pocketbook.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Right, So she's hitting him on having a filthy rich
spouse basically, and he hasn't, you know, put his tax
returns out. Filthy rich people have very complicated turn but
also they have very embarrassing tax returns in a country
that purports to believe in some sort of galitarian as right.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, seeing on paper, if you ever look at a
super rich person's taxes like this, The first of all,
it's like a book, but the top line where you
see income and then you see what they pay, You're
like holy shit, You're like, wait, you got to keep what?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
What? How is that exactly?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I thought we had a progressive tax system.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Ho. You're like, wait, your effective tax rates fifteen percent
and mine's like forty.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
You know, how does that work.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I'm not talking about me specifically, I'm saying, you know,
if if you like, if you factor in whatever the
what's it called, like the FIKA and everything else, compared
to what some of these private interesting barons are I'm assuming.
So he keeps alluding to his wife's real estate. That
means they pay nothing. These real estate right, real estate
guys watches all constantly just doing depreciation and all this other.
(17:15):
And you said so much they're paying nothing in taxes. Yeah,
so you know he's got a low taxic that's what props.
That's why Trump paid nothing for like twenty fours. Yeah,
that's what they all do, everybody. That's what all of
them say. It's like, if you actually really want to
get wealthy and pay zero taxes, just buy real estate.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
So Meddi Hassan hit him on this a little bit.
Let's go to D four. Here's alside and Maddie.
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Ailey Stevens has also attacked you and Mike Rodgers for
being millionaires who, she says, conveniently did not file their
twenty twenty six personal financial disclosures. You sought an extension
through August thirteenth, I believe, which is after the primary.
Was this to avoid transparency with your vehters? Why not
release them before the election?
Speaker 7 (17:51):
No, just taxes get complicated my wife and her family
owned property abroad, and so getting all those tax forms
is a thing. And this is, by the way, the
same extension that.
Speaker 10 (18:00):
She said, you're a millionaire and you're hiding that.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Well, if you take my assets and hur my wife's
assets together, then I guess they add up to something
like that. But my career has never been about trying
to maximize on money. Otherwise I would have just gone
and been a surgeon. But you know, my focus has
always been on public service. And it's interesting to try
and compare apples to oranges here. If you file on
your own, then of course your assets look like one thing,
which Congressman Stevens does. If you file with a partner,
(18:25):
your assets might look like something else.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
He's also he's sitting on a boatload rich.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Rich people always extend anyway, right, So they don't file
until October, like regular people file in April. Rich people
file in October.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Exactly, and you have to pay in April, right, rich
don't they file?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
But they don't pay, so yes, so there's nothing there's
nothing really to pay.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Can I give a defense here of Abdul I was
telling you earlier, I've been telling the group chat this
for days.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Rich wife populism is as old as time.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
If you look at some of the reformers throughout their
eighteen hundreds and others. A man of letters need needs
a gentried wife who's rich whose father struck it rich,
not her specifically, it needs a gentried wife too, so
that he can pursue his letters in public service. This
is a tale as old as time. And so you've
got Rokanna, Mary's a filthy rich wife. You've got Abdul
(19:17):
who Mary's a filthy rich wife, both Indian American filthy
rich wives, which is very cool.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And then who else have you got?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You've got Richie Stunach, right, I mean he's not a populist,
but you know Richie Sunach, who is the Prime Minister's
married some Indian billionaire Beto married a filthy rich woman
as well. I think that this is a tale as
old as time is. To pursue public service, you need
to marry into money. And so I have I have
an extraordinary amount of a leeway and defense for men
who marry into very very rich families. I think I
(19:44):
think it's kind of a it's a very Lindy phenomenon
going back all the way to the British Empire.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Cole Marx's wife is doing pretty well.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, her father, Lennon's wife, I forget. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
No, she was a revolutionary, right, But I mean it
doesn't mean you can't be rich. There was a what
do they call it, like the Red Duchess or something,
a really rich, really rich duchess in Europe who funded
a lot of the communists. Yeah, these newspapers and.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Stuff very common, right, And you need a gentried, rich
woman to be able to support your dream as a man.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
You know, I support rich.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What's wrong with that?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like Frederick Engels, Frederick Engels, you're exactly right. So yeah,
I have a total defense here of Abden of Abdul
of Row. You know, every time the Row of Trading
figures come out, it's like, bro, it's his wife.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
He's not him sitting around doing this.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
But he's like what he is he gonna do? He's
gonna tell her what to do. You can't be doing that.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
It's her money.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
He's literally trying to pass federal legislation right to.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Stop his So you do what you need. If it's
your money, keep doing what you need to do.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
You also saw him saying the clip that if he
really wanted to get rich, he would have become a
surgeon rather than a public health official. And that was
his He was the public health official for the state
of Michigan. He was widely credited as having done a
good job. That's been his kind of his calling card
in the campaign. But that means he also has never
been a practicing physician. Meddi. The right wing has been
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beating him up on that. Helly Stephens consultants have been
beating him up on that. I don't quite think that
one lands Medi went back and forth him a little
bit on that. Let's roll D five.
Speaker 10 (21:24):
You got attacked by your rivals for calling yourself a physician,
not just a doctor, even though you don't have a
valid state medical license in New York or Michigan, which
apparently is what you need legally to call yourself a physician.
Do you wish you'd just stuck to calling yourself a doctor,
which you are, to avoid all of this controversy and
attacks on your physicians.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
You know, at the end of the day, it's not
about whether or not I'm a physician or a doctor.
The question is can you see doctor? It's not about
my education. It's about whether not your kid gives a
good education, so time.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
But people would say it's also about did you tell
the truth?
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Well, I would say that I was the health director
for the city Detroit, and I've done more to provide
more people health care or eliminate their medical debt than
most the doctors have done in their practice career.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I don't know how I feel.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
So it was a Detroit, I said statewide. I thought
it was wide like Detroit.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Full tuition scholarship to the University of Michigan Medical School.
Did in two years there, he led the mission, then
went on to receive an MD. Yet did that in
twenty fourteen. He completed an MD at Columbia University, so
he has an MD, but he did not He also
went to Oxford. Yeah, it looks like he did. He
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did a Rohose scholar a Rhodes scholarship, so he is
very highly educated.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
We'll give it.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
The guy's got the credentials.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
But he is not a doctor.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Or if he's an MD, so the doctor is going
to get urias of me. He's an MD, but he's
not a board certified physician because he didn't do residency
or he didn't complete residency. Remember this was a controversy
with the Surgeon General woman who Withdrew Casey means because
she also never completed residency and she was going to
be a These are the scholar, no doubt, doctors get
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very upset about these types of things about when I
get it, you all worked very very hard, you know,
just zooming out a little bit and looking at the
polling before we go to the property tax stuff, Ryan, what.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Is HD in public health at Oxford? If that makes sense?
But then the mds so many credittions.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
What is your take here about these types of attacks
on Alsaiet because I mean, we shouldn't we shouldn't misrepresent
it like they are tied virtually in the pulse right,
it does seem to be a battle between the old
and the young Alsai. It's favorables with young people are astronomical.
So he's got a lot of the activists on his side,
(23:40):
and he's trying to do some more crossover appill with
old people, which we'll talk.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
About it for in a second.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Turns out he wants to win.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
He wants to win.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
But just before we you know, do our fun segment
about property tax like, what's your read on the race
as it stands now? Like, how do you think she
came out of the debate? Especially looks he got some
great hits on her. But these have been really boosted
by the Republic. That's what we're showing it to you.
These Mandy Hassen clips, they're all over social media and
Michigan Mahaley Stevens campaign as well. Who are really using
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them to attack ELSI? It's credibility. So I'm curious what
you think.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I mean, with enough money, everything makes something of a dent.
And I didn't think that was a great answer. It doesn't.
It was he had this can line, It doesn't matter
about my education. It matters about your kids education. It's
like if you went if you have a PhD in
an MD, and you went to your Rhodes scholar and
you went to Oxford and University of Michigan Medical School,
(24:34):
go ahead and say that, like, because they're going to
imply like people are going to take away from that. Oh,
he didn't even go to medical school, right. It's like
if you went to medical school and got a PhD
in public health and you were the City of Detroit's
public health director. What are we talking about. You're obviously
a doctor here, but it's you know, now it's a
(24:54):
head to head match, and she's going to be able
to outspend him through super Pac support significantly from not
a Democracy Project, APAC, super Pac plus, you know, the
entire kind of world that doesn't want to see el
Side's politics dominate. They're trying to use Platner against him, which.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yes, that's that's very much been happening because they share
because he's a manology Well no, no, it's because he
has the same type of online supporters. And actually that's
the next thing I want to put up. Can we
put up this NBC thing? I put it assented to
the chat. This was really fascinating. So the latest hit,
according to this NBC News article, which is about inside
the you know, slugfest of the Senate primary, is Hailey Stevens'
(25:37):
campaign wants to paint el Sayad quote as a sexist
podcast bro because he's appeared on a show like ours.
I think with Didney campaign with Hassan Piking they did right,
So it's things like that where they want to use
the podcast bro. Image of Maga from twenty twenty four
to basically smear him and say, oh, he's one of
(25:58):
these online bro.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
In this sphere.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
So Democrats in a year have gone from we need
our own Joe Rogan because we need to reach out
to men. Two.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
He has been on podcasts, yes, and podcasts are bad.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Podcasts are bad, all of them. Here's a podcast bro,
and therefore he needs to be reject.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
That is a victory that spells defeat if I've ever
heard of.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
It's a cynical, cynical take. Well, I don't know, because
it seems to me because it's a swing defeat long
term fair. Absolutely, it seems to me like people getably.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Going to win.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
No, I mean, Mike Rogers, like, I'm sorry, you're cooked
in a wave election year where Trump Trump, I mean,
Michigan is what I would say is one of his
least strong states that he's He won it twice first
time twenty sixteen is like ten thousand votes. Second time
around for sorry, third time around. I forget exactly how
much he wanted. It wasn't a lot, like in terms
(26:55):
of the margin, like he won Pennsylvania, I believe more
than he won by Michigan. Michigan is a tough tough
place for Donald Trump. And so then if you factor
in less than one hundred thousand votes, less one hund
k votes, I mean, it's just not a lot of
votes Michigan. So if you got and Alyssa Slackin was
also able to win at the same time, So the
split ticket already and that's in a Republican wave election.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Hoopy win behind his back. He won by with the
way behind his back.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
He barely wins, you know, that election.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
If Gaza doesn't happen, or if Kamala does a does
a better job, she potentially wins Michigan just to those
noble didn't come out to vote. So all those people
are going to come out to vote for the Democrat
I think, no matter what.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So then it's a big question of like, okay, so
where the.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Deocrats, dearborn come out for Hailey Stevens.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
No, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I don't think she'll need it as much as Kamala did,
just because of the way that things are this time around.
So it's a very high, very high stakes primary, it
really is. And the the I think the CNN stuff,
the CNN manufacture.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Whatever you want to call it. I'm not alleging anything.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
But allowed her to blunt that the most damaging attack.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
On sure that I see lately I have and I
say this with like no morality or anything.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I admire the democratic establishments.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
What'spa right, because they've taken so many l's recently in
all of these DSA elections, They're like, Okay, we can
no longer run on Israel itself, so what we need
to do is manufacture other is like me too with
Platner here, not manufacturer as in they're paying her or anything.
I'm just saying like they they're certainly using it to
(28:26):
great effect to get him out of the race and
to take over the entire system. And then here they're like, oh, well,
what we do is we get BB to attack her
and then they use that as evidence that she's you know,
middle road or whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
On is that that may be enough?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
You know, if some for some boomers who are out there,
who are largely it seems to be her constituent.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
If you're a boomer watching Abdulla l Side wants to
cut your.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Property, yeah, don't do it, Ryan, don't do it. We're
not we are not stupid to that level. All right,
let's get to property tax, so as Ryan alluded to
in one of the most disappointing, disgusting, craven, repulsive statements
ever uttered by an American politician. Here's Abdul l said,
(29:13):
who clearly wants to win, who says he wants to
freeze senior property taxes.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
I think we need to be freezing property tax for seniors.
If you paid off your home at some point, we
can't expect you to keep up with property taxes that
are going up.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Now, how do we pay for that?
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Well, again, if we tax billionaires their wealth, if we
were to invest in the Department of Education so that
we're paying centrally for public schools in an equitable way,
there are a lot of opportunities for us to lift
the burden office seniors who've done their job, They've worked
extra hard. They deserve a dignified retirement, and we've got
to be thinking about how to offer them.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
That they deserve a dignified retirement. They they deserve a
federal bailout of Michigan Michigan schools, and we're just going
to pay for it with these fancy billionaire taxes. And look,
you know, I'm not some guy who's anti wealth tax
or anything. I don't particularly care you screw ultra rich
people whatever. Use it as punitive care, that's all fine.
(30:07):
But ultimately this is about bailing out seniors and a
false premise, which is, if you've paid off your home,
you deserve to live there forever. This is a literal
violation of the American dream, and specifically of the housing
mechanics and the way that it all works, right, because
first of all, it presumes if you've paid off the house,
that means you should no longer have to pay for
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any public services whatsoever, from the roads to the police
to the fire department, when we actually know that old
people are disproportionately using them. Also, property tax, the vast
majority of that funding goes to local education. Now, his
presumption here that the federal government should bail out the
state of Michigan and all of their localities actually is
a conservative nightmare. And even if anybody who cares about localities,
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it means that the Feds will have near total control
over what you can and can't do in your schools.
One of the best things about America, specifically our education system,
if you want to say, is that if you live somewhere.
Let's say you disagree with something it's happening in your school.
Because you pay in, you actually can change it. You
really can. We saw this with anti woke or even woke.
(31:11):
If you want whatever you want to do, COVID mass
parents actually got mad and in some cases they won.
They beat the system whenever it came to a showdown.
If it's all up to the Feds, you have no
power whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
And then let's talk about the housing mechanics part, because
this is the part that really bugs me.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And I'll be callous. I don't care because I'm not
a politician.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Which is, if you are a senior and you pay
off your home and then you no longer have to
have any property tax, there is no market incentive to sell,
you will never sell, which means that these neighborhoods will
not turn over.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
And you have seniors who.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Occupy the vast majority of the housing stock, who have
no financial pressure whatsoever, who will stay in these new homes,
who will then not turn them over to the next generation.
People say it's unfair because the property tax has gone up.
The tax only goes up if the house value goes
up too, and So if you did not pull yourself
up by your bootstrap maybe and do enough saving over
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the course of your life, and you didn't plan for
your property tax, why does that mean you get to
hold a financially appreciable asset, pay nothing to be able
to maintain it, receive all city services, give nothing back
to your community, and hold up all of the housing
stock that there is. This is slopulism, That's what it is.
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It's a cynical way to win. Older voters who are
not currently voting or supporting abdulh sayat that's what it's
all about, and the unfortunate, and people are like, oh,
or why do you care so.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Much about this?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It would be funny if it weren't literally sweeping the nation,
which I'll approve to you all. There is now between California, Florida,
which is about to abolish property tax, and Texas, which
has just done the exemption. You will have nearly one
hundred million Americans by this time next year in a
boomer Reich system where they occupy all the housing stock.
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They don't pay as much as you or I do
if we own a home for a property tax, and
they are depleting the system meanwhile demanding social security where
they say they have fixed income, which is literally cost
you know, which literally goes up by inflation. When is
the last time we got an inflation adjusted race? If
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you're under sixty five, when's the last time you got.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
An inflation adjusted race?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
In fact, you almost certainly got a decrease because the
wages have not kept up with inflation since nineteen seventy
or whatever. So they get inflation adjusted rays. You get nothing,
and you get less services, and you need to pay
more in taxes. So I'm off my soapbox.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
You though, the other thing that elderly homeowners would do
with this property tax abatement, and you could theoretically write in,
write in the legislation to try to preempt this, but
what they would do is move out, go somewhere else,
and then rent this property that they now don't have
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to pay property tax on and then just collect the
rental income on it. So what it does is it
takes takes more housing stock off of the market, which
drives up home prices and just makes it harder for
people who don't own a home yet to buy one
because they aren't selling it. Because think about it, if
if you sell it to somebody younger. That younger person
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now has to pay property taxes if they wanted to
rent it. The amount of profit that they would make
by renting it is reduced by the amount of property
tax they have. Corre, you don't have to pay the
property tax, so you're incentive then to rent it and
then just go somewhere else and buy another one that
you also don't have to pay property tax on.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Well, they'll they'll, they'll claim all kinds of nonsense, but
primary home and all this to get around this.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
But look, even in the primary.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Could and live there for six months because because you're
traveling to the Danube, right.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Because I will say what nobody else wants to, which
sometimes you will have to sell. If your property has
gone up from one hundred and seventy grand to two million,
and you're drowning in property, then sell the home, move
into a million dollar house, take the profit. You can
keep your property tax forever. Oh and by the way,
somebody else can buy that home and maybe the raise
their family in it. You know, the most heartbreaking thing
is in localities across this nation. The neighborhood I grew
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up in is a good example.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Full of kids. No longer full of kids.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Why everybody still lives there, right, same people still live there,
kids are grown and gone. Guess what kids? They all
live in another neighborhood. Now, it was a nice neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I liked it there. And that's happening across the nation.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You got elementary schools closing because the fertility rate is down,
and because in a lot of the traditional suburbs, nobody
wants to leave. All the rich people, rich boomers are
all staying there. And then people who are in families,
they got nothing. They're either in the rent air class
or they got to go somewhere else and try and
do something. And look, you could say, well, oh that's
just the market reality. And the boomers are always you know,
coming back to me and it's like, well we had
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fifteen percent interest rates. I'm like, and the same question
I always ask, what was the wasting? What was the
price income ratio? What was the pricing income ratio? It
is like two or three hundred percent more than it
was even twenty five years ago compared to the current
median home price, and that's four hundred and eighty five
thousand today is the median home price, but that factors
in all of these lower cost of living areas, and
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if you were living in a medium or high cost
we talked about San Francisco in our last show.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
It's one point seven million.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
That's an extreme example, I get it, But in many
higher cost of living areas trying to millions of dollars,
literally millions of dollars. And that's why the average first
time home buyer is anywhere between thirty seven and forty five,
and that the average buyer of a home today is
age fifty, right, is because they're the only people with
the cash to be able to do so. So that's
ultimately what Abdul is trying to set in. Let's put
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E two up here on the screen. I took this
from his website and this is again is the worst
possible thing. On his website, he says we will freeze
follow the senior, not the property. The assessment freeze does
not transfer on sale or death. When the home changes hands,
it will reassess it market value. This preserves local tax
based integrity over time, so as I if a senior
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sells the property to an under sixty by person, they
will then be hit with a property tax reassessment to
current market value.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Now here's why I.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Think it's sick because this people took this the wrong way, saying, well,
anytime somebody sells a house that they get reassessment market value.
You're right, But the freezing of a property tax means
that there's no appreciation or incentive to sell. This is
what happened with California in proposition thirteen. It is exactly
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why California's housing market is as messed up as it
is today. There is no incentive for people who bought
between the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties at very
very low values, who have frozen property tax or step
ladder increases, to sell, even though their homes have appreciated
in some cases by two, three, four, five hundred, even
one thousand percent in places like Santa Monica.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
So what do you do?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
What you'd have to do is it means that the
younger buyer has to have more cash on hand and
budget at a much higher price than the scene who
gets to live there, which locks the housing stock up forever.
It has destroyed the California housing market. Now, this would
be a proposition because Abdul Frankly, he's running for United
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States Senate. So he wants to do this nationally, all right.
I mean technically he doesn't have the authority, but somebody
could preempt that type of behavior. And I just want
to show you all what happens when states start doing
this stuff. Let's go to the next one. This is
from Florida. It just happened yesterday, all right, So Tampa,
the city of Tampa.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
How many years.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Now you and I have been hearing? Oh, all these
families are moving to Florida. It's such a great place
to live. It's cheap, and they don't have to wear masks,
and you have all this freedom. Well here's part of
the freedom they're about to have. So in Florida, counties
are now preparing for the total elimination of property tax
or a phase reduction. Hillsborough County, that's where Tampa is.
Here's what they write. A lengthy list of possible responses
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to the elimination will include eliminating or reducing county services
like parks and aging services, closing underused facilities, and increasing
or adding new assessments such as higher fuel tax and
more park fees. So that means, Ryan, you got four kids,
I assume you live at that park, because right, it's
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easy's free take them there if you let them run around,
burn some energy. Kids just started walking. So this is
we're in that phase right now. Now every time you
go though, pay up. You gotta pay. Say sorry, because
these boomers over here, they don't want to pay property tax.
You when you take your kid to the park, you
gotta pay all right, fuel tax. You want to go
somewhere to take your kid to the park, Sorry, it's
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gonna cost you.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
All right.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
There's toll roads everywhere in Florida. So this is what happens.
You got no income tax, you've got no property tax.
Now where's the money going to come from. It's going
to come from somewhere. The disney the Disney crew search
charge can be about to be five hundred dollars for
every person who comes out of state and the people
who live there.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
It's going to be hell.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Should the fuel tax not apply to elderly people too?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Right? Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
They drive less, so why oh they don't use it?
All right?
Speaker 3 (39:57):
So this is what leads to this type of logic
where elder people when they were young to pay.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
To pay a different tax rate based on your age
is crazy. Yes, Also for the age cohort that has
more wealth to pay less tax, I know than the
age cohort that has less wealth is completely insane. Right.
The whole idea of treating people differently based on their
ages on American it's maybe on constitutional like what about
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equal protection?
Speaker 1 (40:26):
And like, of course, what you think they're gonna they're anyone?
How can we even challenge it?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
And this person to show you about the slopulism point,
you can't even conceive how popular these things are if
you were to tell the two areas. I get the
most hate on weed and this actually maybe more energy
about this. I've received actual death threats over weed, but
I'm waiting for my real death threats that are coming
from just saying, hey, we shouldn't have unequal tax codes
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based on age.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Let's put E four up here. Take a look at
the polling. This just happened yesterday.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Two thirds a Florida vote support the property tax of course,
two thirds. So you got the old with this old state,
you know, uh, And they're all like, yeah, why not?
Why should we have to pay? Screw them? I don't
use the park anyways. Not my bid business, not my
problem schools. My kids are grown, doesn't matter. Who cares
about the next generation or my grandkids, doesn't matter. That's
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how selfish they are the people who support these types
of things, And that's that's why Abdel is doing this,
and that's why it's sickening, because you know, guys like
him there, they talks a big game about principles and
all that, and I'm sure you know, take a lot
of hits, but like, ultimately they're politicians. He looks his
poll numbers, he wants to win, and this is overwhelmingly popular.
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And just in preparing for this segment, I found four
different state and localities, actually five, another one this morning,
E five.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Let's put it up here. This from Boston.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Okay, Michelle Wu, who is supposedly some lefty great person mehir.
Michelle Wu signs city order to expand property relief for
older homeowners. Okay, so to provide relief for these older homeowners.
Let's go to the next one. What do we find Indiana?
Indiana Governor Brown eyes property tax breaks for seniors and
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assessment changes. Quote, once you get to sixty five, maybe
you ought to have some relief from your own government
to not have property taxes after that, he said, So
I'll be looking for enterprising legislators to see if they're
hearing that too. The other thing I hear is, once
you've paid off your mortgage, why should you then have
a fixed cost Generally that's going to be later in life.
With a twenty five to thirty year mortgage, you'll be
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approaching retirement. He says he doesn't want to starve local
units of government, but said that those expenses shouldn't rise
beyond what taxpayers can afford, and we could make up
the revenue elsewhere. Let's go to the next one, shall we.
Pennsylvania Democrats all right, Pennsylvania House It votes to funded
property tax cuts for seniors by levying targeting big tech companies. Now,
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I don't care about big tech companies. That's totally fine.
Tax them, I don't give a shit. But what does
this mean is you have a property tax cut. They
will take that revenue and only make up for the
property tax of seniors, not for any of the other
younger home buyers. And that's that's you know, right now,
I'm just fighting for parody. But if I were really fighting,
what would I say. Let's say the people who got
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the money bought the property tes for the first time,
for the first time home buyer will even means tested.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I don't care, all right, you know that's fine.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Of the three things, by the way that I just read,
only one of those was means tested for lower income seniors,
which is Boston. Even then, I'm against it just because, yeah,
I think it's unfair. It's like, why do you what
lowering lower income single mom doesn't get a break, the
lower income senior gets a break. Which one do you
think needs more of a break? If it is binary?
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Ultimately because of the government. I mean, you can google
in even these states. Indiana, what have they done for
a young family in the last three months?
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Pennsylvania, same thing. What find me find find me something
and I will read it here on the show all
the energy and then find eight let's put it up
here Republicans. So this is bipartisan Ohio law machers approved
three hundred and fifty million in property tax relief for seniors.
So it's because they vote at the end of the day,
and that's what.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
It's all about.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
It's not just that they vote. It is definitely that
they vote. It's also a function of the population declined absolutely.
The number, like the number of people graduating high school
is now, has declined the last couple of years. And
this is something we can project with certainty basically with
immigration being the only variable, because we know who was
(44:33):
born eighteen years ago and who wasn't, and the population
and the birth rate are going down, and as a result,
the young people in the voter pool, who participate at
a much lower rate anyway, are much fewer to begin
with relative to the biggest generation. Now, the boomers are
not going to be here forever, but they're going to
(44:53):
be here for a long time, right.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Last one, I just I literally found this one this
morning because a friend of mine overnight texted me this.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Let's put it up here on the screen.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
One of the leading candidates for governor in South Dakota
name is Toby Dodin. He says, space, it's out property tax.
Guess what, South Dakota. They don't even have an income tax,
just like Florida, who's gonna pay Where's the money coming from?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
It's outa sales tax. They have a low sales tax.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Alrighty, yeah, where's it gonna.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Come from from?
Speaker 3 (45:18):
The people who drive through the state, who go to
Mount Rushmore. I mean, where is the money.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Driving your soybeans on dirt roads?
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Right exactly.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
It's like so you read through and you're like, oh, okay,
so how's he gonna make up? And he said, oh,
maybe we'll do a luxury a luxury goods tax.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
I'm like, okay, I'm fine with me.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
But ultimately what they write, because the South Dakota papers,
you know, went through their proposal, it's.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Not gonna make up the one point eight billion.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
So where's a lot of luxury goods being purchased in
South Dakota.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
It turns out no offense South Dakota, you know, no offense? What'so.
It's a beautiful state.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
But it's like, you know, even in these states, and
this is what I mean when it's sweeping the nation.
You got Florida, Texas, California, literally three out of the
four most populous states.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
I'm sure New York I haven't checked.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
I'm sure they have some a BS exemption that already here,
which is.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
On the books.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Now you've got the senator potential from Michigan who wants
to enact this nationally.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
We're talking about trillions.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Of dollars in bailouts, if that were to become the
policy of the United States or even the smaller states.
Now they're like, oh, let's hop on the bandwagon. Vivig
Ramaswami Ohio. Guess what he picked it up. Yeah, let's
pay no, let's pay no sales tap everybody wants to
Why not win win win, as in win for the boomers,
win for the politician.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, it's sickening.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
And you know, last thing, last thing is I said,
I don't even have this one here in the show,
but I read this Wall Street Journal story last night,
and it was about schools, and as you just said,
with population decline and fertility rate, he got all these
schools were just rotting. Now nobody's even using them, so
they're now converting them into luxury senior housing.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
That's a monument. People say, don't you want them to move?
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Yes, you're right, Thank you for moving and for going
to see your housing. You're right, But is that not
emblematic of the problem that we have.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
This is Japan.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
This is what it's all going to look like twenty
thirty years from now. You know, the whole economy is
going to be like this in terms of healthcare and
aging services. We're already getting there, but twenty thirty years
from now, that's what the whole thing is going to
look like.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
My elementary school shout out to Warton Elementary School in
Kent County is not a luxury condo yet, but it
is shut down. They wouldn't be able to sell luxury
condos there. My middle school was called Chestertown Middle School.
It is now called Kent County Middle School. In other words,
it is the only middle school in the entire county.
(47:34):
My high school was called Kent County High School. It
still exists. It's like half the population that it was before.
And people say, seniors will say, well, we don't use
the schools. You rely on the people who go to
school to wait on you at the restaurants, to mow
your lawn, you know. To as for home health aids,
(47:59):
society produced.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
We live in a society. We live in a society period.
It's like the mean, yes, you have to pay for
the next generation. People are always like, oh, just because
you had a kid and you want money now from
the government, you exempt me. Put me in the legislation.
I will get nothing. I don't want anything. It's rough people,
you know, it's just I just checked College Hill's elementary
shout out in College Station.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Looks like it's still going.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
So there we go.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
All right, we got we got something.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
But Texas one of the few places you can probably
buy a home because it's cheap, or at least or
cheaper than it's overall nationally. It's sad, man, it really
is sad, and it's sweeping the country, and you're just
going to see more and more and more. This just
shows you five examples literally from across the political spectrum,
six actually, including Abdul l Sayad.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
And it's just going.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
It will continue to sweep this. I predict twenty twenty
eight you will see mass freezing and or elimination of
property tax in I'm gonna call half the states of
the youth, half the states in the Union, and probably
the two thirds of the US population in the next
five years.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
As a politician, as you say no to this, you're dead.
Your opponent's gonna be like, well, I'm gonna cut your
property text exactly if peop were like, all right, well,
good sweet, You're not gonna do anything else, so at
least I'll take that.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
It only works if we all fight back all right,
thank you very much for having me, Ryan, It's been
a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Bro Show. Crystal'll be back next week, and.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
We'll be back as well.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Well, we'll be back everything only restored.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
Very convenient that they all traveled this week, Isn't that's right?
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Sticking us with the platinum situation. It's okay, that's fine.
I stuck them with I'm sure if something bad happened
whenever I was gone as well. All right, we will
see you guys tomorrow Friday Show.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
See then,
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