With the Masters Tournament being this weekend, we decided to give you guys the only golfer we have had on the show. Everyone enjoy their weekend and enjoy a trip down memory lane with this episode.
Max Homa joined the pod while the boys were out in Arizona. Max talks about what life is like as a golfer on the PGA Tour. Homa tells the boys what the Waste Management Open is really like from the perspective of player. He tells some crazy stories and how he thinks the tournament is actually good for golf. After tournament talk, Max dives into how he got into golf and things that could/should be changed to make the "sport" more appealing to the younger generation. The Boys may be the good luck charm for Max as he just finished 2nd in the following tournament. Enjoy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We were talking about Rob Moujie, my high school buddy.
He now legend. Well he's been mentioned on this podcast
several time. Incredible guy. You know Rob, he's in the
Gulf world. But we were talking about, uh, the sectomies. Yeah,
so let's let's let's get over that real quick. How
many kids do you have? You have one kid? How
many more kids do you want?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
No more than one more? Really?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, I'm not, I think, but I think it's a
product that like I grew up in a two kid household,
and that my wife she was cool with three because
she grew up in a three kid household, but now
she's pretty much on two.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I could do just one, I think.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
But I'm also in like the three and a half
I mean, you're in the three and a half month
grind right now, where it's like it's just getting a
little less hard, so I can see like the light
at like, oh this is really fun. But so many
people I feel like the day you have your kid,
you're like it's a gray stay of your life, Like
everything's just like gravy from here.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And it's like, I.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Think you guys forgot about how hard the month is
where you don't sleep like at all, like not like
like if you got an hour, you're like, oh man,
I feel so good. And it's like you I think
people forget. But now that you get that over that
three month hump, I could see having the second one,
but right away people like, oh man, like you know
how many you gonna have?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'm like the heaven one. Yeah, one. I'm cool, like
this is impossible.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
There's a you know, any Sandberg is a comedian. He
was on a like a late talk show one time
and he was talking about having a kid and as
like your your wife is pregnant. One's like, it's a blessing.
It's gonna be the greatest day of your life. And
then once the kids born, everyone's like welcome to hell.
Like they just trick you into like also getting into hell.
That dude that first six months, I mean, Willi's coming up,
his daughter's about to be a year. I got a
five year old and already yeah I went.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
You were like in my boat, how is your three?
And almost for you almost months.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You get to that six month mark. Really like the
first six months is like keep just keep it alive,
like you gotta feed it, poop it, make sure, it's
like breathing at all times. And then like once you
get to six months, that's when like the personality really
starts to show. You get the smiles when you walk
in the door.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Tight.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
But I got a five year old and it's like
full blown, like it's my little buddy. We're ripping it. Yeah,
we have conversations. She's in a pokemon like it's like
a nice little it's a cool deal.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, because it's like int like having similar interests. You
do have the pooping thing aligned. I do like to poop. Yeah,
you already wipe me. But I'm saying he also likes it.
Like that's our similarity, Like that's our link right now.
But the problem is is like you know, he has
someone wipe his own ass for him, and I still
have to I have to do both of those things.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So that's where we're kind of misaligned.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Is I feel like it's like a it's like for him,
it's just straight up for toy.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I have to work a little bit, you know.
Yeah yeah, yeah, so he hasn't reciproc but you.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Gotta get him another I don't want to take you to.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Get but like when you're in the beginning of it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Man, that's just like the hardest thing to to think
about because you're just like, man, what, I'm already marty
in it. It's just as hard as I could possibly
imagine that. We travel so much. Man, it's just like
we just did our first lights what was that three
weeks ago? And every time I like we do anything,
(03:09):
I'm like, how do people do this with two fucking kids?
So too, it's like I have the backpack with the
stroller on, you know that you carry it like the satchel,
and I mean, Lacy my wife was saying, I almost
ran into like one hundred people, and I'm like, well,
that's just their problem at this point because I'm overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So I can't imagine too.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But obviously you get to that point, I'm sure where
it's like that it makes more sense than it seems
reasonable at this point in time.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
I right now, it's almost like you know you're about
to take off. You can get in the bottle, you
can kind of like, yeah, I have him on the carrier,
but now that rue is like ten months, Like I
gonna be honest. She was hell like, if we're if
we're coming out of training camp, she's getting cut like
flying down to Austin and flying over to Easy. Now,
flying to Easy wasn't as bad. We got her to
sleep down in the seat. But like they're just one
(03:52):
to move and do everything else, like traveling. It's like
a few hour flight.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I'm glad he's still immobile because I was not a
full player. I'm not ready to chase something around. I walk, yeah,
I can walk fast, but I don't. I don't jog
a whole whole lot of times. So I'm a little
scared for when I can't find him and he's just
running away shitting and pissing and screaming. I'm cool with
him in one place. I know when he screams now,
(04:16):
I know exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Where he is. Ya scared for the days where.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
He's gonna be like like Ron was telling me yesterday,
he's like, you know they have to obviously, like his
kid is a little over a year. I think two years,
maybe get two years, and he uh, you know, he's
like he's like he's trying to climb out of the crib,
and I'm just like, that's the scariest I know my
kid's gonna be right where I left him at all.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Times, so I can. I'm cool with that. It's a grind, dude,
It's an absolute grind to have a kid. But I
think he got going for you is I mean the
boy made some bags. Yeah, a few weeks ago. That's
a nice little deal right there. You keep doing that
and no more South last Yeah, yeah, a nice little plane.
Just go ahead, and hey, you can cry and run
around wherever you want.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
We did do that all the way home from from
San Diego and it was really like, it was really relaxing.
I will say, though, to all the parents out there
who don't fly as often as I do and they
feel bad when their kid like screams on a plane.
I've been on as many planes as I think like
anybody really has, and at some point I got over
(05:19):
it's like they make noise canceling headphones.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Now, yes, bro, that's all.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You gotta brought that up yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
It's a kid like they're gonna scream. I mean maybe
when I was like twenty twenty one years old, I
was a god. It's annoying. I got the kid behind me,
but it's like they got noise can sling handles. I
even thought like if I if I was just making crazy,
crazy money.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I'll just buy everybody noise canceling headphones back.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Get a headphone.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, here you guys go. No complaining now though, Like
I'm good, You're good.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
It seems natural though, like I was like it would
be internally in my head, I'm like, man, this kid,
quiet down. But now that you're a parent, you're like,
you know the parents, The parents are about way worse
than you are, because there are parents who are like, man,
you want to fuy down because you know how everybody
else might feel because you were once there. What yeah,
not like actually looking like people who look and give
like faces.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It's like, yo, fuck you if you yeah, if it's
like an older woman, it's always the older woman that
kind of looks like what do you? What do you do?
And say, man, you're sitting in the middle seat in
Southwest if you had to see, it was gonna be
a tough flight for you.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Regardless.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Disconnect. I do believe this. There's a disconnect because it
is more expensive. It's public transportation. It's just a bus
in the air. If I was on a bus and
someone was screaming, I've been on bus. I lived in
Berkeley for four years, I'm on bus where people are
taking pisses in the aisle and it's like you just
didn't even bat an eye. You go on the bart
and there's just a homeless DUDEO lives there. It smells
(06:42):
it terrible, But you're like, yeah, this public transportation. But
for some reason, when you're up in the clouds, people
to expect everybody to, you know, wear like a suit
and tie and just read.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
But like you're kind of like, it really is.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I want to know why people are pissing in the
middle of the aisle of a bus.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
You know, he said he grew up the Californi you
got homeless people.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
He's got a big homeless by relation, and you see
a lot of ship and I mean that quite literally.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, like California is El Dorado for the homeless community
that is, that is a place you really need to get.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, gotta everywhere's in ocean.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, people in Minnesota that are holmeless were like, have
you heard about this place California? We could get there.
Flyers like yeah, Okay, someday I'm gona head west for
three years. You'll never do it.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Almost due to Minnesota. Last time I was there, and
that guy's brave. Man, it gets fucking cool.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's fucking cold in.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Minnesota, California. I mean, like if I was, I would
just live in San Diego and it would be great. Yeah,
I mean that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, if you want, you can stumble over to Mexico
real quick. But a PJ. You have a couple of
nice shows coming back. A lot of entertainment down there
in southern California, a lot of entertainment. What do you
live in San Diego now?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
No, I'm here.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I'm twenty minutes from here, but I I grew up
in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
But we've been here four years now.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You a Paradise Valley guy.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm Arcadia.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Oh nice, Arcadia is south of Paradise Valley, Money Valley.
It's like Arcadia is like it's like the nicest area
of Arizona.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I grew up in Cave Creek.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
No way. Yeah, so we just moved Arcadia. We were
living up by like where TPC is. We were living
by like Kierlin.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah for a while. But uh, Arcadie feels kind of
like California.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Like you guys had those kind of vibes. It's weird,
like love down a neighborhood in Arcadia and it'll be
like lush.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's cool. It's a cool set up for
for Arizona. It's different, but yeah it is. It has
been funny living down there because like there is a
I'm not forty towty guy, but but our forty twenty
people down there.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, you go, I just got a little north I know.
But Cave Creek it's more salt of the earth.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I believe that.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
But I just kept my wife and I can't do they.
I haven't fallen in love with the cactus yet.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Better. I think that's fair. Yeah, I know you take
take a lot of pride in the cacti.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, it's kind of like all we got, all we
got out.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Here that they can differentiate the cacti, which I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Just like, it's just a cactus. Yeah, there's lots of
the choy I think is how long you've heard about
the jumping toil Yeah, hey, fuck them up right now. Yeah,
we'll blame them the called jumping jumping. They're like basically
like the defense mechanism. Defense mechanism of a choy is
if you get close to it, it'll literally lean into
(09:21):
you and then get you so it'll get you away
from it. And it's one of those things like if
you like touch it, it breaks off real easily, so
it'll be like all over your hands and arms and
stuff like that. And they're like they like they look
like big bushes and you can just like stacks of
just prickles everywhere.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
My buddy put his foot over one once it was
on the ground. He put his foot over it, kind
of screwing around like oh, I'm gonna step on it.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
And yeah, but holy fuck, yeah, Like what's the point
of those things, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, that's what kind of value are they adding? Though
I'm sure they do.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Like I'm sure somebody somebody's out there pissed off right now.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Like how does will fucking not know?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
No, I mean I think the choy is like only
here here in like New Mexico. Yeah, Like it's kind
of like a it's a rare thing.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
It's interesting how long cactuses can live.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, that's a fun thing too. Wars like two hundred
years old. It's wild. But that's what this is not,
what this podcast is not about. You are, so you're
at the way you're doing the waste management. Obviously you
gotta be. We're thinking about we're thinking about Saturday right now,
we're thinking about Saturday. Yeah, And then so how does
like waste management? To me growing up here? Last year?
(10:30):
What's that he hit one last year?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
You got it? You got one last year?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Didn't you hold one? No? That was Sam right, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That's that's just that's just us not doing our homework,
because I legit I was sitting with Will there being like, damn,
did he really get a hole in one? But that like,
how does the waste management? How is it different from
things like Augusta and like other places, because it seems
like it literally is out of like happy Gil No,
it's as.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, it really is. Shooter mcgavan would struggle here. So
that's how I put in context. They don't tell you
exactly how many people come to the gates, but I
know roughly so on a on a given even a good,
good golf tournament day, like I would say Farmers Insurance
two weeks ago, final round probably had that's where he
made twenty five thirty thousand people, Yeah, which feels.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Like a lot at a golf tournament.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
It's spread out, but feels like a lot Saturday at
the waste Management this week we'll probably have two hundred
and fifty thousand people. It's like the top five six
sporting event in a day, and it's all week. I
mean yesterday, Yesterday's Monday. It's a first day of the
course is open to practice or sorry for the fans.
But typically even some of the events don't even open
and you know you'll trickle in like a few people
(11:37):
on Mes some Monday people have jobs. I mean yesterday
was still chaos. I mean, it's so many people. So
it's different. But my story that explains it. We call
it all the golfers call it a party that a
golf tournament broke out at. So it's like if we
were here drinking, then all of a sudden, you're like,
you know, you want to go mess around on that
putting green.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And like that's that's like the scale.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
So my first year ever playing at I I t
off on Thursday off the back nine and sixteen's you
know right where like everyone filters in through ten, they
walk past ten, past eleven and filter into sixteen and.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I walk off the tea.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I got, you know, all my golf clothes, arm Spike's on,
looking like a professional golfer. I got my caddie carrying
the clubs, looking like a caddie. And there's a huge
line of people and there's these two attractive women in
front of me, and I say excuse me, and they're
in like heels and dresses and all this.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Shit, and and they like look at me and look
back away.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I was like, I was like, excuse me, like I'm
trying to get through to the fairway, and she gave
me like the I have a boyfriend look, and I
was like, what the fuck.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Are we doing?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Like I'm working, like you're here because there's a golf room.
But most of the people don't even like that's not
even part of it, Like that's not the vibe.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I mean they have clubs like I have my buddy.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I don't know if you guys know the you know
he's just Mike now, but Mike's stud and all those
we are.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, he's one of the he's been a few times.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
They rolled through last year, him Blue and all the
boy and I got them passes. It's thing called the Greenskeeper.
It's left of eighteen and it's like I've never been.
I've never got this like see anything. But it's kind
of like a day club, like outdoor day club. And
he's like, hey, I'm gonna come out uh And I
was like, okay, I got you guys these wrist bands
and he'said, no, we want to play watch you play golf.
I said okay, but I was like, we'll let you know,
like it's really fun like every day, but especially Saturday, like,
(13:19):
don't feel obligated to come watch me play, like get
in there. So I text him after I was like, hey, man, sorry,
like I didn't say high, like there's.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Just a lot of people out there.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
He goes, he's like I think he text.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Me two days later because he was like never even
left the greenskeeper, like it was just too much fun
because it's just like beer gardens, so like people don't
even know there's golf going on sixteen, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
But you're there just to boo and get really drunk.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And it's different from anything ever, because every other golf
tournament is the it's the golf tournament. It's the priority
in this case, like that is the alcohol is the priorities?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, it's especially that's sixteenth it's.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Crazy, it's insane.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
How do you get go ahead, bub, I'm just gonna
say how you feel about everyone starting to throw all
that alcohol onto the so I like the green, like
how it was like chaos.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It was a little mud. So basically they had to
change it this year.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I'm not gonna go out here and say it's like
life and dead dangerous, but I mean people are chucking,
you know, hands at you that are full of beer
and like, you know cold. My buddy cold got hit
with one last year and he's like, didn't feel good.
I don't mind it. It's it's crazy. I like this.
This is good for golf. I don't think every week,
but it's good for golf. But they are putting cups
and solo cups this year, so if you do chuck
them at least like we're not gonna get beaned. But
(14:31):
I don't know, I like it. It's fun, It's it's
it's chaos. It's crazy. It's like we golf is such
like an older, older person's sport that like making it
younger and all this and that whatever. The only problem
with last year that we got a little of that
they're starting to do it for anything. Like they crave.
It's like you pradas the chaos, and they're like they're like, man,
(14:52):
if he if he makes this thirty footer, we're gonna
throw it. And then they'll miss and he's like he
taps it in though we'll throw it too. It's like yeah, okay,
or you know, like make it make like for the
home one, like go nuts for a bunker shot. You
make go nuts, long pup go nuts. It did feel
like last year was kind of like anything we can
possibly make happen and make worth it, we're gonna do it.
But it's cool, man, it's a it's rare. I have
(15:15):
my favorite funniest stories from this event, and last year
was up there with the most humanizing and also kind
of funny thing ever. But I was in a late
group on Saturday, I think, and we get to fifteen,
I'm making like a little charge and uh, I don't
know why the people who set the tournament up did this,
but there's a ported body like on the tee and
it is really close to a lot of people, and
(15:36):
you know, obviously they're quite noisy.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And I had a healthy stream that day, so I.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Hop in there and everyone watches me go in there,
and I could hear people like, you know, chanting as
I'm like in the bathroom, and it's like really uncomfortable,
and I get out and I just get like, I mean,
they're already standing, but it's still like a standing ovation
like a roar happens as I leave this bathroom. I
looked at Joe and I'm like, dude, I don't even
feel like a pucket person anymore. For a piss like
(16:02):
they got. Didn't have to take a ship because like that,
it just doesn't have been a tough one in there.
So you have that. I've had my favorite heckles have
been at this one. U. So it's a great event.
It's just, uh, it's very different.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Is it a when you're looking at like your first
couple of times doing the waste management, is there like
a level of fomo that you had at any point?
Being like these people are having every incredible time every year.
I remember, like I don't know about you, but like
being on the buses going to like college foot blun
steing all these all these people tail getting Like damn,
I've never been to a tailgat.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I got to do all the tail getting. Yeah, so
we roll reverse it is hard. Man.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I guess like last year I got I got all
these friends in town. Uh and like one night, you know,
like again invited to go to dinner with like Golf
who I'm buddies with, and Yelich and all like just
like my favorite like coolest athlete friends who we keep
up with each other, but I never get to see
them because they're busy. When when when I'm not busy
(16:58):
and I'm busy when they're busy, And they're like, man,
we're going out to bottle blonde a night. You know,
I know it's probably hard, but you want to come.
And I'm just like fuck you, yeah, like I want
to know. But and then they're like, no, you're not coming.
I'm like I know, but like you just all the
parties are this week and it's so much fun and
everyone's out and watching people like just drink while we're
all golfing and just seem like truly having the time
(17:20):
of their lives while I'm just like wrestling between making
bogies birdies and bars.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It's just like it's just not nearly as fun. Yeah,
changing diapers.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah, Now this week's super Bowl week.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, Now it's super Bowl every year it's just crazier.
But I don't know, man, I have fomo every year
at this event, but there have been times like my favorite,
like like last year is Saturday, my last like five
holes is my like one of my favorite things that's
happened to me and golf, just because when you do
perform in front of those people, you guys would would
(17:52):
get this more. We don't get this very often, but
it's like the rush of it is well, you know,
it's worth not drinking the beers.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But yeah, there's still times where I'm like, god, dang,
it looks pretty, you know. If I get it on
like a little bogie around, I'm like, I could just
be out there right now, like, yeah, well I got
full act. I got this little credential gets me everywhere.
I could be doing all the coolest stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
But I don't know. It's a it's a good trade off.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Here's a question, how important in the scheme of Jay
rankings and all that is the waste management. That's what
I'm thinking, is this, why not become the golfer it's
drinking while you're playing.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
John Daly, Oh he does that. He smokes cigarettes and drinks.
He's the fine because you're not allowed to.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Drinks or not we're not allowed to Yeah, maybe that'll
be a.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Rule we could knock down just for this tournament. Just
like that's weird when you go to a dusta. I've
never been, but it's like the hot dogs are still
the same prices the day they open. They have like
message Yeah, like like presidents and like senators can like
golf on this place other than pro golfers, Like why
not make the waste management like the ultimate like fuck
(19:00):
you to golf in a way that like takes this
these younger generations and it's like, oh, we want to
do this ship.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
This is awesome, not a terrible. Yeah, we could have
a one innovator.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Golf.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah. It's like you guys, watch the Wire.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I've not seen a lot. There's so many shows out
there now that are amazing, Like Last of Us is
now a thing that everyone's watching.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
But they have a thing called Hamsterdam where like the
in Baltimore, they made like you could do drugs in
this one square mile you could do whatever you wanted.
There was no rules, and like that's what this event
should be. It's like, yeah, the one place where like,
well we'll turn a blind eye to this.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That's perfect. Captioning. Maxholma thinks heroin should be allowed. Yeah,
no drugs.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
You brought that up. What's one rule you would change?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
In golf man?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Big Cat. Big Cat did say something on part of
my take once. I don't know if you guys ever
heard that one, but where he said that you should
be allowed to fight one fanny year.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Any sport.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
And I was like last year at the PGA in Oklahoma,
I was telling Joe my caddy about that rule because
there's this fucking guy that was just wearing me out
for like six holes in a row. He's clearly just
walking with us, and I was just like do. I
was like, that's the fucking guy, Like, that's my guy.
But you have to be smart about it because I'm
not like a super large man. I'd pick a small
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guy and I just go to town. And I think
I think that would be that would be a good one.
Obviously pretty pretty unrealistic, unrealistic rule change, but definitely something
if we thought of.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I do think that I do think that like live
towards doing it. Like shorts.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I don't mind, like you could wear shorts. It makes
us seem like at least a little less dorky, although
some people got like very white legs.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I the the real one is I guess the real
one I would do is like range finders, the lasers
you shoot the pin distance wise, I would use because
if everyone has one, I don't see the advantage of it.
So it's like, might as well do it. It'll speak
things up to an extent, makes things easier on everybody.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That one seems pretty basic, but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Is it.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
So?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Speaking of like fighting, guys, is there a golfer that
you would, given the opportunity, would maybe throw hands with?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
I mean, I get yeah, I mean it could be anybody.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Is somebody on the front of your mind. You can
say them, you don't have to say him. Who do
you think you could take in the tour? I could
take like I could take a lot of I was.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I was. I'm blessed.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
My dad was a boxer growing up, so he taught
me at a box. I'm very unassuming, like I know
I could at least I'm also not scared to get
my ass beat like that at some point. Yeah, like
like like we fought obviously, you guys are all.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Gonna kick my ass.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Like I'm cool with that, but like I'd rather do
that than like run, So I'm gonna at least stand
in there and take a few.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Uh. But yeah, I mean think that there's a lot
of guys on tour.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I would I would, I would like my chance against
But it's not like I dislike that many people, or
really anybody enough to just be like I'm just gonna
bite him. But I mean there's times when you're pissed
off and it's kind of just any when you make
like four bogies in a row, it's kind of just anybody.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, anybody's wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I'm ready right now. My dad always had this joke.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I wore a or this ugly ass pink shirt when
I was a junior golfer and this guy we were
leaving the course.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I paid so bad.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I'm so mad, steaming in the front seat. I'm probably
like fifteen sixteen, and this guy cuts off my dad.
He's usually like a little more of the hot head
than me, and I start yelling at the car.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
The guy in front. My dad goes. My dad goes,
if you.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Want to get out, you can get out, and he
was like, could you imagine like on the news, like
like golfer and pink shirt just beats the hell out
of some road raged driver. And I was like, yeah,
this probably wasn't gonna go that way. I probably you know,
end up flat on my back. But we have no
I've always been scared of a golfer actually fighting another
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because like, we just had a tee throwing incident a
year a week ago in Dubai. We have Rory McElroy
and uh Patrick Reed. Patrick Greed like flicked a tee
towards Rory and it was a humongous story, which is
pretty sad. And uh, I'm really nervous that if we
ever anybody did get in a real altercation. We just
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never make things look cool, and we can't make fighting
look cool. Like there's just no way since two golfers
are actually gonna have like a real fistfight that you're like,
oh wow, you know it's gonna be like oh boy,
you know, like, oh that was a bad look for
all of us.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
So I hope we view you know, it would bring viewers,
it would.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Cringe and like kind of be like okay, you know
I did indeed to see that. So I feel like
It's good that most of us are are smart enough
not to ever really even get into a hold me
back situation.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
We we avoid it at all costs.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Is there an internal rivalry that you have that your
opponent doesn't even know he's a part.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Of multiple but not in a I don't like them?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Why just like when I would want to beat him
way uh man Tom kim uh And he has the
same thing. I know he does because his Caddy is
one of my best friends. I know he has the
same thing. But we played singles at Presidents CuPy. The
sad part is sce he's twenty, I'm thirty two.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Hold on, hold on one second, yes, sir, I don't well.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Oh so are you gonna abide by the what you're
being told?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Hey, Dave gonna meet you.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
We're doing We're well in lying, brother, No, we're just
trying to do our part.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Because we're doing. We're doing you know why we're doing
And we've got people coming up be like, you can't talk.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Do you know why we're doing this down here? Because
we're doing the rundown right yesterday?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Because you have to do it.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
All I'm saying is we're trying to fuck we're trying.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
To do this.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Talk there or not you're allowed to talk?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I think, I mean yeah, like your house.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, I don't know, that's why I said, though I
came in and like the Boston guy says, no one
can talk up there.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
So what'd you said?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
What was your reaction here and asked permission to talk?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
All right, thanks.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I hope your shows so well.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
You never know what you're gonna get with him, you know,
when he made the comment, I was thinking about it too,
and he was like, when you're fifty three, fifty fourth roster,
you're gonna be early to the meeting. It's like when
you're the owner, you can show up whenever you want to.
But it's like, yeah, if you want to want to
run a pisspoor organization, lead from the front, he said,
found up, Lead from the front, Leading from the front,
Like that's culture, Like we know there's a heart out
here at ten fifteen, and he wants to come take
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three minutes of our time. That's hey, though, I tell
you what the day folks are the boys he does
fun with them.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Like that's he's the dad. He's the dad that's never
going to say I love you. But like the more
he makes fun of you, like he cares. Yeah, yeah,
he cares, and that's that's important. I feel like during
the thing, what'd you ask does he love you? You think, oh, yeah,
you love us? Yes, I think so. I mean I
think we're probably yeah, top five.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
People don't think he'll ever say it, and I think
he'll always like, you know, make those faces.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Like he'll just go yeah, I mean I like you guys,
guse you're fine. He usually I mean, you should doing
great job. He has worked for me, and he'll just
say something that like wouldn't make him seem like he's
the boss, and then we just's.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That one pat on the back. You're like, oh yeah, yeah,
he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I think he's not a whole lot of paths.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
He hangs with Silvana and they'll like look at some
more kind of stuff and they kind of chuckle.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, he'll be laying in bed and just kind of
but it'll never say you see this, He'll never say that,
like those guys are stupid, and they'll just kind of
keep scrolling.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I'm Kim, yeah, Kim.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So yeah, he's twenty, I'm thirty two.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Uh, he's a future or he already is super Star
Wars the Future just like World.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Beater, uh talent.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
And I think part of it is that I'm just
jealous that it took me so long to figure it
out and he's, you know, can't even legally drink and
he's just whooping up on all of us.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
That's probably part of it, and not a.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Lot of it is just Caddy and I, you know,
I have to see him all the time, so I
want to. I don't know, it's like it's like a
motivating thing. So I definitely, you know, check in how
he's doing in tournaments, and I hope that I win
more tournaments than he does h until I retire much
earlier than he will. But it's also an embarrassing one.
Like I said, you want a rival that's like your age,
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and this kid is like he's truly a child. So
what I was doing at twenty versus what he was
doing at twenty is just so drastically different.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
It's outrageous.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
But he's he's definitely ho on my list right now,
and he's also taking me to dinner next week. He's
taking me to a Korean barbecue next week in La So
we're all also really good friends.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I think closer.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, so I'm staying it. Yeah, but he might food
poison me. I'm not really sure. I don't know where
his rivalry in this stands, but I know I know
he feels similarly.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Is here this week? He's here this week?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah? Anything, that's when does it? It starts Thursday, right,
the first day of everything?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Startursday?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And do you get paired up with him a lot?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Or now I've been paired up with him? Maybe this
is where the other part.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I got paired up with him in Vegas this year
and then he won the golf tournament didn't make a
bogie for all seventy two holes, which is just like
not a real thing.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, so he did that, man? He so? Yeah? Is
uh you? You brought up caddies a couple of times, like,
I don't know golf. I probably swung a club ten
times in my entire life. I'm awful. But what is like,
how important is a caddy through the process of the
weekend for you, like sizing things up for you and stuff?
For me?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Is what do they do?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
In general? Just like give me the basic one on
one on what a caddy does.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Their bones is carry the clubs, clean the clubs and
get like numbers and kind of do like strategy type stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Mine is different.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I I've always valued caddies some guys, you know, everyone
wants something different. Some people want like some people want
like a psychologist kind of out there a friend out
there where they want somebody who's just really good at
like you know, getting waters, you know, just like a
almost like an assistant. Mine, I've been lucky. Mine is
one of my best friends. I've known him since I
was six. He was a great golfer. It still is
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a good golfer, but he played pro golf for a
little bit back in the day. And uh so I
kind of get I'm lucky. I get I get a
really like really good caddies, great at all the strategy, all.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
The picking what club to hit. He's great at all that.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
But he's also like someone I enjoy walking around with
because we're we're together more than I'm with you know,
my wife really over the last like six years, we
spend so much time together.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So I need to like like that person because if.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I if I start to get resentful of being around
somebody that much, it would be hard to do my job.
But so I I kind of get like the full
the full package with mine. So it's like I said,
everyone's different. Like I had a caddy one time filling
for Joe. He was gone for a week, and every
time he gave me water, like he'd have like the
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top almost off so I didn't.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Have to open the top. I'm like, nice, though, yeah,
but I'm like, I'm so good at that.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I can do that, you know, I don't need to
help with that. I need help, Like, is it seven
or eight iron?
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So it's just like everybody.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
But clearly at some point somebody told him like that
was a thing, which is also sad and crazy to me.
But uh, I don't know some people. Everyone everyone's different,
I guess. But I like, I like having a friend
out there that like enjoy the winds together and then
the losses we can like discuss and and I have
a lot of faith and trust in what he'll suggest
that we should do better.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Have you ever blew a gasket on him?
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
It's actually funny. He's yelled at me more than I've
yelled at him.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
It's kind of my running running joke about how like
last year, last year, maybe it's two years ago at
Pebble Beach Sunday. I got off to a great start
and on the fifth hole, I hit in a bunker
and I had a fuck line and made double bogie.
And then the next hole, I hit in the bunker
and got a fuck lie and I hit a really
good shot and got a terrible bounce. I had like
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twenty feet, and I like kind of bitched and moaned
about it. And that's why I like joke, because I
always tell myself if I'm being a bitch, you tell
me I'm being a bitch, and I'll stop. Like he's
older than me, like I was like, you know, you're
kind of big brother.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I'll listen to you.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, And and but I kind of like bitched and
moaned to him about like I was like, what a
fucking bounce, you know, like so fucking bad. And he
snapped on me and he goes, you know, I don't
even remember what he said.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
He yelled at me, looked like Jesus Christ, like in
front of the people. Oh my good god. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Basically he was like he's like quick complaining he had
a great fucking shot.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It's like not that big a deal whatever.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
So I'm like okay, and I walked over and I
unfortunately I made the putt, which was like maybe part
of him just scaring the life out of me.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
And he comes over to me like, this is why
I'm our relationship. I love it so much.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
He comes over me and goes, dude, I'm so sorry, but
I want to rake that bunker on five.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
My back went out and I'm like, I'm kind of
on tilt right now. I'm like Okay. He goes, I'm
really sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
But I've only really yeah, I've only really gotten mad
at him, like a couple of times. Uh so like
he I don't think I've ever yelled at him, but yeah,
it's it's fun when he is wrong. And there's been
a couple of times where like he catches, he catches
when I could. I know he's wrong and I go
to say something and he's like got his head downe
He's like, sorry, sorry, sorry, my bad, sorry, sorry sorry,
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because he knows like I don't air him out.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Everyone's trying their best. It's impossible.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I mean, he's guessing what you know, educated guess and
what we should be doing. So when he's wrong, it's
not like I'm like whatever, But every once in a while.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Like one time, you know, I'm telling him it's six,
aren't it's five?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
He says five and I'm saying six, and it's five
and I have five and it goes over the green.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's fucked.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
And like that's when I can at least at least
look at him and be like, you know, I was right,
And sometimes that's all I need.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
But I don't yell.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
You hear some guys blow up and there are some
funny fucking stories, but uh, man.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I just don't have that in me.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Where are you at in the argument of golf being
a sport or not?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Man, I'm like very middle Like, I don't it's active.
Uh it does warm my heart when like my friends
who are real athletes, like the no argument athlete, when
they go play golf and then they tell me next
day like their back hurts and their shoulders are hurting.
I'm like, see, shit's fucking, But yeah, it's it's probably not.
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I think if we had to carry our own clubs,
I wouldnsider it a sport.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
But it's just it's just it. Yeah, we're tiptoe on
the line.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
We're we're definitely like people bat dog cheerleading and say
that's not a sport, and they did it way more
athletic than we are, so like they're not even if
they're not even getting approved, then like we shouldn't be
approved fully yet, but we're we're gaining on it, but
I wouldn't like you guys are, like there's a humongous
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difference between like football and baseball and basketball and then
like golf.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Like this is noticeable.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Just the eye tests would tell you that, Like we're
not doing a whole lot, but it is active. It's
harder than you think. But yeah, it's definitely not not
rigging rigorous enough to consider like a full blown sport.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
But we're in this sport family.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
We're just the way you handled that, yeah, outrageous question
was extremely graceful, Like could have easily.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Taken get their fun or back there by piss right now.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
You heard a lot of bunch of scoffs in the
back when you said that, because they all were thinking
that it's not When did you decide like they're prove
when we were like this is this is for me,
That's what I'm gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
In a real sports Uh So I played Uh you know,
like football, basketball, and golf. Those were like my three
like loves grown up receiver.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Were you a slot receiver?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So I was gonna be the great white Hope. I
was a nasty corner. Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
A boy from Iowa out there trying to live the dream.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
You see that.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Unicorn, we have to protect it.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So uh but yeah, so I was like damn, uh
I was like eleven. So it's not like I thought
of that at all, but uh, I think who was
a seahorn back in the day. Yeah he was, So
I mimicked my game after him. But yeah I was.
I was all right, I I I'm fast, like that's
kind of my thing. Never was a big guy, but
I can. I can fly around a little bit. And uh,
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I like saying that because you can't prove that I can.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
So looks like you can.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Probably it looks like you can run around a little.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Bit though, Yeah, but you're never gonna see it.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
When you're like at a Part five or something like that,
get a good sprint to your ball, kind of show
everybody what's what.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
That would be funny if you like h.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Like yacks down there, dude, that would be awesome, that'd
be incredible.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
It was like eleven and my dad kind of stutely said, hey, man,
if you want to be a professional athlete, like you
need to pick one, like this is your time, Like
you need to treat it like a job. And he goes,
I think you should only be doing one. And I
sat there and looked in the mirror and I'm like,
I'm five ft two, can't really jump. I think I'm fast,
but I've met a lot of guys faster, and I
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was like, I think golf is the way to do it.
So it wasn't like I thought that I was baby
better at golf, but I felt like it might fit
me better.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
It didn't get hit, nobody had to hit me. Uh
and yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
So then it was like from eleven on, I quit
everything else and started going the golf course six days
a week.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
My parents drop me off and bang balls. I didn't
know I was gonna.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Make it, make it for a while, but I've always said, man,
for for anybody who's ever made it, and probably anything,
but especially sports, you need like the perfect amount of delusion,
because if when you tell a kid like I remember,
I had teachers be like, what do you want to
do when you grow up. My mom be on the
PJA tour and they'd be like, okay, but if that
doesn't work out, what are you gonna do? And I'm like,
why the fuck would that not work out? Like I
work at this as hard as you work at your job,
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like it's gonna work. But like, looking back on it
now is like a thirty two year old dude. It's
like the fact that a kid I was just like, yeah,
of course I'm gonna make it. Here is like you
have to be a bit crazy, but like you have
to have enough of that realism and awareness to know that,
like it's gonna be really hard, but and you have
to change things, not like I'm just gonna wake up
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and just make it.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
But also you have to have enough delusion.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
To a se anytime anybody everybody ever said hell man,
you know that's that's crazy, like you might need a
backup plan, I could look at you and be like, no,
like that's that's not how you make it.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
You don't make it with the backup plan. So, uh,
it's kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
But I was thankful my dad did that when I
was young, because you do, in my opinion, need to
unless you're one of those freak, you know, bo Jackson
type people, like you need to focus on one thing
because there's so many people that are working at it
and that are great at it that like, you can't
be wasting time. I couldn't be wasting time trying to,
you know, figure out if I was going to blow
up the guy in the flat or not.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Like that's just that. Don't been wasting my time.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
So you guys seem like you're more the the family style,
that is, pick do one sport when you're growing up.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I want, I want because.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I know you probably are aware of those arguments.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
I like golf, it could be likef you might have
to put in that type of.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Golf one of those sports. And hockey is one of
those sports I gets. I grew over a thirteen in hockey.
You can't do anything else. You got to do that.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
If I want my kid, If you decide to play sports,
I wanted to play all of them because I do
think it makes you a well rounded human. Like I
think that there are golfers who have grown up and
only played golf, and I think that they they only
play yeah, and I don't think that's a good thing
personality wise is great for their their their game, But
like I don't think, yeah, that's what it does feel
like that. It's like they take some of themselves very
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seriously and it's like our biggest, most popular golf tournament.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Is just a party. That's Scottsdale.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
So it's like we're not we're low on the totem pole,
we're growing. Tiger put us everybody on the map. He
changed the change the landscape of golf forever for all
the professionals. But at the end of the day, I
do think that it's important to play a lot of
sports just to get I also think it helps with
your hand to eye. I think all those things are
important to growth. But yeah, I mean, it's golf is different.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
It is.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
It will always be a slower, older, older person sport
just because it's not taxing on the body. It's the
thing that all you know, so many athletes and so
many super athletes decide to like play after because it's
you know, I was on a phone call with Larry
Fitzgerald yesterday and he is obsessed with golf.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
You've never met so many more obsessed with golf. And
this dude is a.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
No, no doubt or Hall of Famer probably. I mean,
he should be in the conversation for best of all time.
And this dude just like he's asking me questions about
how do I get better at golf? Because that's the
thing is. It doesn't beat him up anymore. It's a passion.
It is hard. But I think that his personality and
his outlook towards the game is benefited from the fact
that he played other things growing up. And I think
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that's why people love Larry and golf now because he
doesn't take himself seriously because he's humbled by the game
of golf. But we all also respect him because he's
a legitimate freak of nature.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
When you keep saying that golf is always gonna be
an older man sport, how do you like, in what
ways can we make the younger generation appreciate golf more? So,
I'll give you, Like, for example, like when I'm in
high school, me and all my buddies never thought about
golf at all. Soon does everyone graduated college All of
a sudden, all my boys are picking up clubs and
doing whatever, and like, this is great for business, this
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is great for that. Like, how do you start leaking
into the high school like that. You know, the younger
age is that they start picking up the clubs more.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
So it needs to be more accessible. So golf course
I grew up on is parse sixty one. So most
golf course par seventy two. Public golf course had a
Part three course, nine holes, the longest holes one hundred
and fifty yards, and it was owned by a company
called American Golf. And they had a deal at least
in all the ones that they owned around where I
grew up that you know, if you were under like
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twelve eleven or somewhere like that, you could play the
Part three course for one dollar all day and then
you've played the big one for like sixteen dollars. And
as golf is boomed because of the pandemic golf blew
up across the country, golf course are getting more expensive.
And that's okay, it's a business, but like let the
kids play, like get them out there, get them out playing,
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get them out. The deals on hitting balls like bang
the balls is let's just say it's eight dollars a bucket,
make it three so that they don't have to go
beg their parents for twenty dollars and you know, like
make them feel like it's it's okay.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
And also it will I don't.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Know if this one will ever change, but the adults
need to get that are at the golf course need
to clean up their act and stop kind of ho humming.
Oh man, I'm with a kid today. It's like my
dad would always say that, and he liked it because
I was, you know, a good player as a young
young kid. But he would say, you know, we get
paired with another another two dudes that who obviously don't
know us, strangers, and he would he'd say he always
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loved it because they'd roll their eyes to their friend, like,
oh god, we got to play with this kid today.
And my dad would make me play fast, like if
I if it took me too long to get off
the box, he would just have me play up where
his drive was.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
But like by the end of the day, these guys like,
oh my god, this kid's so good.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
But it's like, don't you like judged me before you
Like the point is to get in, like get people
into this game so that the pros are doing I
think a good job I have, like I know, Patrick
Can'tley hosts three golf tournaments on the court on the tournaments.
We grew up playing in Southern California in the SCPGA
Southern California Professional Golf Association, So then I'm doing my
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first one in two weeks, and I think that helps
a little bit, kind of giving kids that look up
to you know, maybe you know, even if they aren't
into golf, but they have to watch it because their
dad makes them here and there, and they say, hey,
you know so and so is hosting a golf tournament.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
I want to play in that one day. Maybe that
could be an avenue.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
But I just think accessibility and these adults need to chill.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Like if a.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Kid's being loud at the golf course, you don't need
to reprimand them, like go just say, hey, you know,
we're a little quieter here to respect thing, but like,
don't make it where I have to walk on eggshells
because I felt like that as a kid a lot.
And unfortunately my dad didn't make me double down and
feel that. He's like, hey, you know, kind of like
screw them, do your thing, but be respectful.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
But he said it in a nicer way.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
But there's just like this stuff, it can be stuffy,
and that just turns kids off. The kid's attention spans
are doore. That's why football so like it's like America's
sport and it's so fun to watch because it's like quick,
quick hitting highlights like highlights in golf.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Like you, they're slow and they're not as riveting.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
But if you ever played the game, you'd be like, fuck,
that's amazing, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
But it's just like it's it's not.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Like right off the top of your head that it
would be like so clearly fun. So I hope that
I hope that as things go on, like kids will
start to feel more welcome to come out.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Course, because I tell I tell all the people who are.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Just even my friends, as you reference, they get out
of college and like, man, I want to play golf.
I don't embarrass myself. I'm like, I'm like, who are
you worried is going to embarrass you? And they'll be like, oh,
you know there's this guy that was playing the other day.
I said, well just picture this. If I come out,
I'll beat the shit out of that guy at golf.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Like he'd be embarrassed to play with me.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
And I don't give a shit, So like you go play,
just go have fun, do your thing. Don't like that's
the problem. There's like this weird there's a weird thing
in golf that I'm hoping slowly gets gets torn down
a bit.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
But is that a weird thing you're kind of implying,
Is that they get up at the vibe?
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I think it is. But I just think, like, okay, so.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
If I go play, if I went and played football
with you guys, obviously I would look like an actual
like a draft, like a baby's giraffe out there, like
I wouldn't know what to do. I baby catch a few,
I'd maybe trip a few times. I'd look like an idiot.
But I feel like the nature of that sport, like
the intuition isn't just to immediately like make fun of
that person. It's like, you know, it's just like, oh,
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it's fun. It's a backyard game, you know. But golf
doesn't feel like a backyard game at least and how
it was made it was a gentleman's Sport's a gentleman's game,
but it's like it is it should be a kid's game. Shit,
We're whacking a fucking golf ball through the air and
everyone sucks at it.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Like I suck at it sometimes, like it's so hard.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
So I just think that there is an uppitting this
to it, that like as you get better and you
have to pay to play. So I guess maybe part
of is kind of like going back to the public
transportation the sky thing. Oh I'm paying three hundred dollars
for a flight. I don't want this baby crying behind me.
It's like, well, tough shit. Like there's a kid out
here gonna learn and he just wants to get better
at the same game you want to get better at.
Like let him like, let him have a chance, let
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her have a chance, and like just see what happens
and make it fun and make it enjoyable. There's something
weird about Maybe it's just the price point of it
that I think people feel entitled to, Like this is
my day and I want it to go exactly how
I think it should go, and it just drives me nuts.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
I'm glad I.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Grew up at the golf course I grew up at
because it was not like that nearly as much. It
was a men's club. All the boys have beers. I
would sit there and wait for my dad to finish.
I'd hit balls get a soda and we would go
home and it was very like everyone can play. No
one's getting strokes, go prove yourself, and that's how you
grow up and learn. But golf in general just doesn't
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seem like it's gotten over that hump fully yet, but
I think it will. I think Tiger made an enormous
impact on that because he made kids feel cool to
play golf, at least for me. When someone's like, oh,
you play golf as dorky, I'm like, go watch this
fucking guy play golf because it is not dorky is
it's exciting and it's cool.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
I think what Netflix is doing too with that, Yeah,
like the Formula one, yeah, formula, but them doing it
with the golf and everything else. I think that's going
also for you, like giving you your flowers. To me,
it's like the way you are your personality on social media,
you do make it seem like you have an edginess,
a looseness about you to where you make the golfing
fun like good day, bad day. You're still gonna whether
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it's you need to show up on social media or not,
like you make it seem like, oh, he's doesn't take
it so serious, even though you are a pro at
your craft. Clearly, if anybody's listening to this, it seems
like you've been all in on this thing for a while.
But I like admire from Afar your ability to play
good or play bad and talk about it in a
way that's like relatable to people.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
I feel like people thank you.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Yeah, I guess, I guess i'd put it as I don't.
I take what I do very serious. I don't take
myself very serious. And I hope that kids and fans
of golf grasp that like concept, because like, I want
to be everybody every time I play, but I also
know that if I don't, it's not everyone's problem that
I didn't. Yeah, man, mine, And like I said, I
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want golf to flourish. And I love this game and
it is it has a lot of benefits to it
for you know, business and honestly just joy. And so
it's like at some point, uh, it's it's fun and
we're playing golf in a field. Man, It's it's awesome.
But there's just little little wall we got to knock down.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Netflix. That's a great point.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
They'll do a great job of showcasing, at least for
kids to be able to see a real TV show, Like,
oh shit, maybe I want to try that, right and
like then get out and do it because it is
weird man like every like you said every single one
of my friends right after college like fuck man, like
I want to learn how to play golf?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Whoul I do?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
And I'm like, god, dang, I wish you would have
said this we're fifteen, because I would have a lot
more friends.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
I know it's it's ten twenty right now. We know
you got to go. But the last thing we'll ask
is you seem like your mindset is just like really
just well done. Like you seem like you've really put
things into perspective, understanding that just because I lost doesn't
mean it's everybody else's issue enjoying whether you win or
lose in the way you projected to everybody else. Like
how is that? Like, is your mindset always been that
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way or did you have to navigate through the ups
and downs of golf to really fine the calm that
you're dealing with right now?
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, I mean even the like it goes ebbs and flows.
I some days, I'm I can act like an asshole.
I try to keep it to myself, but like if
you're you know, you know, Joe, my wife Lacy, like
they would know when I'm being kind of a dick
about it. But I guess a lesson I learned, Like
I've always thought of myself as a respectful person. And
I remember I had a really bad attitude for a while,
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like through college, and I can't remember if exactly what happened,
but it was one day where I think someone like
almost pointed out to me, like when if there's two
other people at least playing with us every day and
if I'm being an asshole out there, that person has
to deal with me and I'm ruining their day. And
I'm like, oh, that's not what I mean to do,
Like I'm just trying to ruin my own day.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Shit.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, So like I guess that's kind of when I
also have a bad attitude in my own head now,
but I try my best. Like some people will be like,
oh man, you're so calm and your attitude so good,
and it's like some days it's not very good. I
just don't want people to see that anymore because it's
embarrassing and it's and it's rude, Like it's rude to
the other guys out there that I play against who
are also trying to do the same shit I am
if they got to deal with some little sour puss,
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you know, stomping their feet and stuff.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
But no, it's it's everything that I've been. I've been flow.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
But I think as I've gotten older, I've just realized
that you're gonna have good weeks, You're gonna have bad weeks,
and at the end of the day, you know, the
journey is is that that's that's the fun part. The
winds come, the winds go, things things, You have bad weeks,
you know where it feels like the end of the world,
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But like the fun part is just getting facing that forever.
And I think as I've gotten older and appreciated that,
I've appreciated some of the bad days more because it's like,
all right, this is the day I'm gonna learn. When
you win, you learn a little bit, but you when
you fail, you learn quite a bit. And before I
would kind of back myself away from that and be like, God,
sucks doing this, But knowing that you're not gonna win
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every golf tournament, it's kind of you can appreciate the
weeks where you have to grind and and dig it
out a little bit and turn you know nothing into
something so but it's it's all been a learning curve.
I mean, if you ask my friends when I was
sixteen to twenty, they probably thought it was the biggest
tool bag in the world playing golf. But I've been
trying to get a better hit that.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Brother, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on this show,
and you guys are the best.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, man, it's been fun watching social media. For those
of you subscribe, unsubscribe, resubscribe. Our favorite golfer of all time,
Max Homa. We're rooting for him this week at the
Waste Management Buddy, Hope you take home that trophy.
We were talking about Rob Moujie, my high school buddy.
He now legend. Well he's been mentioned on this podcast
several time. Incredible guy. You know Rob, he's in the
Gulf world. But we were talking about, uh, the sectomies. Yeah,
so let's let's let's get over that real quick. How
many kids do you have? You have one kid? How
many more kids do you want?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
No more than one more? Really?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, I'm not, I think, but I think it's a
product that like I grew up in a two kid household,
and that my wife she was cool with three because
she grew up in a three kid household, but now
she's pretty much on two.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I could do just one, I think.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
But I'm also in like the three and a half
I mean, you're in the three and a half month
grind right now, where it's like it's just getting a
little less hard, so I can see like the light
at like, oh this is really fun. But so many
people I feel like the day you have your kid,
you're like it's a gray stay of your life, Like
everything's just like gravy from here.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And it's like, I.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Think you guys forgot about how hard the month is
where you don't sleep like at all, like not like
like if you got an hour, you're like, oh man,
I feel so good. And it's like you I think
people forget. But now that you get that over that
three month hump, I could see having the second one,
but right away people like, oh man, like you know
how many you gonna have?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'm like the heaven one. Yeah, one. I'm cool, like
this is impossible.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
There's a you know, any Sandberg is a comedian. He
was on a like a late talk show one time
and he was talking about having a kid and as
like your your wife is pregnant. One's like, it's a blessing.
It's gonna be the greatest day of your life. And
then once the kids born, everyone's like welcome to hell.
Like they just trick you into like also getting into hell.
That dude that first six months, I mean, Willi's coming up,
his daughter's about to be a year. I got a
five year old and already yeah I went.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
You were like in my boat, how is your three?
And almost for you almost months.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You get to that six month mark. Really like the
first six months is like keep just keep it alive,
like you gotta feed it, poop it, make sure, it's
like breathing at all times. And then like once you
get to six months, that's when like the personality really
starts to show. You get the smiles when you walk
in the door.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Tight.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
But I got a five year old and it's like
full blown, like it's my little buddy. We're ripping it. Yeah,
we have conversations. She's in a pokemon like it's like
a nice little it's a cool deal.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, because it's like int like having similar interests. You
do have the pooping thing aligned. I do like to poop. Yeah,
you already wipe me. But I'm saying he also likes it.
Like that's our similarity, Like that's our link right now.
But the problem is is like you know, he has
someone wipe his own ass for him, and I still
have to I have to do both of those things.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So that's where we're kind of misaligned.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Is I feel like it's like a it's like for him,
it's just straight up for toy.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I have to work a little bit, you know.
Yeah yeah, yeah, so he hasn't reciproc but you.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Gotta get him another I don't want to take you to.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Get but like when you're in the beginning of it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Man, that's just like the hardest thing to to think
about because you're just like, man, what, I'm already marty
in it. It's just as hard as I could possibly
imagine that. We travel so much. Man, it's just like
we just did our first lights what was that three
weeks ago? And every time I like we do anything,
(03:09):
I'm like, how do people do this with two fucking kids?
So too, it's like I have the backpack with the
stroller on, you know that you carry it like the satchel,
and I mean, Lacy my wife was saying, I almost
ran into like one hundred people, and I'm like, well,
that's just their problem at this point because I'm overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So I can't imagine too.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But obviously you get to that point, I'm sure where
it's like that it makes more sense than it seems
reasonable at this point in time.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
I right now, it's almost like you know you're about
to take off. You can get in the bottle, you
can kind of like, yeah, I have him on the carrier,
but now that rue is like ten months, Like I
gonna be honest. She was hell like, if we're if
we're coming out of training camp, she's getting cut like
flying down to Austin and flying over to Easy. Now,
flying to Easy wasn't as bad. We got her to
sleep down in the seat. But like they're just one
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to move and do everything else, like traveling. It's like
a few hour flight.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I'm glad he's still immobile because I was not a
full player. I'm not ready to chase something around. I walk, yeah,
I can walk fast, but I don't. I don't jog
a whole whole lot of times. So I'm a little
scared for when I can't find him and he's just
running away shitting and pissing and screaming. I'm cool with
him in one place. I know when he screams now,
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I know exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Where he is. Ya scared for the days where.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
He's gonna be like like Ron was telling me yesterday,
he's like, you know they have to obviously, like his
kid is a little over a year. I think two years,
maybe get two years, and he uh, you know, he's
like he's like he's trying to climb out of the crib,
and I'm just like, that's the scariest I know my
kid's gonna be right where I left him at all.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Times, so I can. I'm cool with that. It's a grind, dude,
It's an absolute grind to have a kid. But I
think he got going for you is I mean the
boy made some bags. Yeah, a few weeks ago. That's
a nice little deal right there. You keep doing that
and no more South last Yeah, yeah, a nice little plane.
Just go ahead, and hey, you can cry and run
around wherever you want.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
We did do that all the way home from from
San Diego and it was really like, it was really relaxing.
I will say, though, to all the parents out there
who don't fly as often as I do and they
feel bad when their kid like screams on a plane.
I've been on as many planes as I think like
anybody really has, and at some point I got over
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it's like they make noise canceling headphones.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Now, yes, bro, that's all.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You gotta brought that up yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
It's a kid like they're gonna scream. I mean maybe
when I was like twenty twenty one years old, I
was a god. It's annoying. I got the kid behind me,
but it's like they got noise can sling handles. I
even thought like if I if I was just making crazy,
crazy money.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I'll just buy everybody noise canceling headphones back.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Get a headphone.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, here you guys go. No complaining now though, Like
I'm good, You're good.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
It seems natural though, like I was like it would
be internally in my head, I'm like, man, this kid,
quiet down. But now that you're a parent, you're like,
you know the parents, The parents are about way worse
than you are, because there are parents who are like, man,
you want to fuy down because you know how everybody
else might feel because you were once there. What yeah,
not like actually looking like people who look and give
like faces.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It's like, yo, fuck you if you yeah, if it's
like an older woman, it's always the older woman that
kind of looks like what do you? What do you do?
And say, man, you're sitting in the middle seat in
Southwest if you had to see, it was gonna be
a tough flight for you.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Regardless.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Disconnect. I do believe this. There's a disconnect because it
is more expensive. It's public transportation. It's just a bus
in the air. If I was on a bus and
someone was screaming, I've been on bus. I lived in
Berkeley for four years, I'm on bus where people are
taking pisses in the aisle and it's like you just
didn't even bat an eye. You go on the bart
and there's just a homeless DUDEO lives there. It smells
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it terrible, But you're like, yeah, this public transportation. But
for some reason, when you're up in the clouds, people
to expect everybody to, you know, wear like a suit
and tie and just read.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
But like you're kind of like, it really is.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I want to know why people are pissing in the
middle of the aisle of a bus.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
You know, he said he grew up the Californi you
got homeless people.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
He's got a big homeless by relation, and you see
a lot of ship and I mean that quite literally.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, like California is El Dorado for the homeless community
that is, that is a place you really need to get.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, gotta everywhere's in ocean.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, people in Minnesota that are holmeless were like, have
you heard about this place California? We could get there.
Flyers like yeah, Okay, someday I'm gona head west for
three years. You'll never do it.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Almost due to Minnesota. Last time I was there, and
that guy's brave. Man, it gets fucking cool.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's fucking cold in.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Minnesota, California. I mean, like if I was, I would
just live in San Diego and it would be great. Yeah,
I mean that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, if you want, you can stumble over to Mexico
real quick. But a PJ. You have a couple of
nice shows coming back. A lot of entertainment down there
in southern California, a lot of entertainment. What do you
live in San Diego now?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
No, I'm here.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I'm twenty minutes from here, but I I grew up
in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
But we've been here four years now.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You a Paradise Valley guy.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm Arcadia.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Oh nice, Arcadia is south of Paradise Valley, Money Valley.
It's like Arcadia is like it's like the nicest area
of Arizona.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I grew up in Cave Creek.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
No way. Yeah, so we just moved Arcadia. We were
living up by like where TPC is. We were living
by like Kierlin.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah for a while. But uh, Arcadie feels kind of
like California.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Like you guys had those kind of vibes. It's weird,
like love down a neighborhood in Arcadia and it'll be
like lush.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's cool. It's a cool set up for
for Arizona. It's different, but yeah it is. It has
been funny living down there because like there is a
I'm not forty towty guy, but but our forty twenty
people down there.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, you go, I just got a little north I know.
But Cave Creek it's more salt of the earth.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I believe that.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
But I just kept my wife and I can't do they.
I haven't fallen in love with the cactus yet.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Better. I think that's fair. Yeah, I know you take
take a lot of pride in the cacti.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, it's kind of like all we got, all we
got out.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Here that they can differentiate the cacti, which I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Just like, it's just a cactus. Yeah, there's lots of
the choy I think is how long you've heard about
the jumping toil Yeah, hey, fuck them up right now. Yeah,
we'll blame them the called jumping jumping. They're like basically
like the defense mechanism. Defense mechanism of a choy is
if you get close to it, it'll literally lean into
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you and then get you so it'll get you away
from it. And it's one of those things like if
you like touch it, it breaks off real easily, so
it'll be like all over your hands and arms and
stuff like that. And they're like they like they look
like big bushes and you can just like stacks of
just prickles everywhere.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
My buddy put his foot over one once it was
on the ground. He put his foot over it, kind
of screwing around like oh, I'm gonna step on it.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
And yeah, but holy fuck, yeah, Like what's the point
of those things, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, that's what kind of value are they adding? Though
I'm sure they do.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Like I'm sure somebody somebody's out there pissed off right now.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Like how does will fucking not know?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
No, I mean I think the choy is like only
here here in like New Mexico. Yeah, Like it's kind
of like a it's a rare thing.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
It's interesting how long cactuses can live.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, that's a fun thing too. Wars like two hundred
years old. It's wild. But that's what this is not,
what this podcast is not about. You are, so you're
at the way you're doing the waste management. Obviously you
gotta be. We're thinking about we're thinking about Saturday right now,
we're thinking about Saturday. Yeah, And then so how does
like waste management? To me growing up here? Last year?
(10:30):
What's that he hit one last year?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
You got it? You got one last year?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Didn't you hold one? No? That was Sam right, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That's that's just that's just us not doing our homework,
because I legit I was sitting with Will there being like, damn,
did he really get a hole in one? But that like,
how does the waste management? How is it different from
things like Augusta and like other places, because it seems
like it literally is out of like happy Gil No,
it's as.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, it really is. Shooter mcgavan would struggle here. So
that's how I put in context. They don't tell you
exactly how many people come to the gates, but I
know roughly so on a on a given even a good,
good golf tournament day, like I would say Farmers Insurance
two weeks ago, final round probably had that's where he
made twenty five thirty thousand people, Yeah, which feels.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Like a lot at a golf tournament.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
It's spread out, but feels like a lot Saturday at
the waste Management this week we'll probably have two hundred
and fifty thousand people. It's like the top five six
sporting event in a day, and it's all week. I
mean yesterday, Yesterday's Monday. It's a first day of the
course is open to practice or sorry for the fans.
But typically even some of the events don't even open
and you know you'll trickle in like a few people
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on Mes some Monday people have jobs. I mean yesterday
was still chaos. I mean, it's so many people. So
it's different. But my story that explains it. We call
it all the golfers call it a party that a
golf tournament broke out at. So it's like if we
were here drinking, then all of a sudden, you're like,
you know, you want to go mess around on that
putting green.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And like that's that's like the scale.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
So my first year ever playing at I I t
off on Thursday off the back nine and sixteen's you
know right where like everyone filters in through ten, they
walk past ten, past eleven and filter into sixteen and.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I walk off the tea.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I got, you know, all my golf clothes, arm Spike's on,
looking like a professional golfer. I got my caddie carrying
the clubs, looking like a caddie. And there's a huge
line of people and there's these two attractive women in
front of me, and I say excuse me, and they're
in like heels and dresses and all this.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Shit, and and they like look at me and look
back away.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I was like, I was like, excuse me, like I'm
trying to get through to the fairway, and she gave
me like the I have a boyfriend look, and I
was like, what the fuck.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Are we doing?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Like I'm working, like you're here because there's a golf room.
But most of the people don't even like that's not
even part of it, Like that's not the vibe.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I mean they have clubs like I have my buddy.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I don't know if you guys know the you know
he's just Mike now, but Mike's stud and all those
we are.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, he's one of the he's been a few times.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
They rolled through last year, him Blue and all the
boy and I got them passes. It's thing called the Greenskeeper.
It's left of eighteen and it's like I've never been.
I've never got this like see anything. But it's kind
of like a day club, like outdoor day club. And
he's like, hey, I'm gonna come out uh And I
was like, okay, I got you guys these wrist bands
and he'said, no, we want to play watch you play golf.
I said okay, but I was like, we'll let you know,
like it's really fun like every day, but especially Saturday, like,
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don't feel obligated to come watch me play, like get
in there. So I text him after I was like, hey, man, sorry,
like I didn't say high, like there's.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Just a lot of people out there.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
He goes, he's like I think he text.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Me two days later because he was like never even
left the greenskeeper, like it was just too much fun
because it's just like beer gardens, so like people don't
even know there's golf going on sixteen, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
But you're there just to boo and get really drunk.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And it's different from anything ever, because every other golf
tournament is the it's the golf tournament. It's the priority
in this case, like that is the alcohol is the priorities?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, it's especially that's sixteenth it's.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Crazy, it's insane.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
How do you get go ahead, bub, I'm just gonna
say how you feel about everyone starting to throw all
that alcohol onto the so I like the green, like
how it was like chaos.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It was a little mud. So basically they had to
change it this year.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I'm not gonna go out here and say it's like
life and dead dangerous, but I mean people are chucking,
you know, hands at you that are full of beer
and like, you know cold. My buddy cold got hit
with one last year and he's like, didn't feel good.
I don't mind it. It's it's crazy. I like this.
This is good for golf. I don't think every week,
but it's good for golf. But they are putting cups
and solo cups this year, so if you do chuck
them at least like we're not gonna get beaned. But
(14:31):
I don't know, I like it. It's fun, It's it's
it's chaos. It's crazy. It's like we golf is such
like an older, older person's sport that like making it
younger and all this and that whatever. The only problem
with last year that we got a little of that
they're starting to do it for anything. Like they crave.
It's like you pradas the chaos, and they're like they're like, man,
(14:52):
if he if he makes this thirty footer, we're gonna
throw it. And then they'll miss and he's like he
taps it in though we'll throw it too. It's like yeah, okay,
or you know, like make it make like for the
home one, like go nuts for a bunker shot. You
make go nuts, long pup go nuts. It did feel
like last year was kind of like anything we can
possibly make happen and make worth it, we're gonna do it.
But it's cool, man, it's a it's rare. I have
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my favorite funniest stories from this event, and last year
was up there with the most humanizing and also kind
of funny thing ever. But I was in a late
group on Saturday, I think, and we get to fifteen,
I'm making like a little charge and uh, I don't
know why the people who set the tournament up did this,
but there's a ported body like on the tee and
it is really close to a lot of people, and
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you know, obviously they're quite noisy.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And I had a healthy stream that day, so I.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Hop in there and everyone watches me go in there,
and I could hear people like, you know, chanting as
I'm like in the bathroom, and it's like really uncomfortable,
and I get out and I just get like, I mean,
they're already standing, but it's still like a standing ovation
like a roar happens as I leave this bathroom. I
looked at Joe and I'm like, dude, I don't even
feel like a pucket person anymore. For a piss like
(16:02):
they got. Didn't have to take a ship because like that,
it just doesn't have been a tough one in there.
So you have that. I've had my favorite heckles have
been at this one. U. So it's a great event.
It's just, uh, it's very different.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Is it a when you're looking at like your first
couple of times doing the waste management, is there like
a level of fomo that you had at any point?
Being like these people are having every incredible time every year.
I remember, like I don't know about you, but like
being on the buses going to like college foot blun
steing all these all these people tail getting Like damn,
I've never been to a tailgat.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I got to do all the tail getting. Yeah, so
we roll reverse it is hard. Man.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I guess like last year I got I got all
these friends in town. Uh and like one night, you know,
like again invited to go to dinner with like Golf
who I'm buddies with, and Yelich and all like just
like my favorite like coolest athlete friends who we keep
up with each other, but I never get to see
them because they're busy. When when when I'm not busy
(16:58):
and I'm busy when they're busy, And they're like, man,
we're going out to bottle blonde a night. You know,
I know it's probably hard, but you want to come.
And I'm just like fuck you, yeah, like I want
to know. But and then they're like, no, you're not coming.
I'm like I know, but like you just all the
parties are this week and it's so much fun and
everyone's out and watching people like just drink while we're
all golfing and just seem like truly having the time
(17:20):
of their lives while I'm just like wrestling between making
bogies birdies and bars.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It's just like it's just not nearly as fun. Yeah,
changing diapers.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah, Now this week's super Bowl week.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, Now it's super Bowl every year it's just crazier.
But I don't know, man, I have fomo every year
at this event, but there have been times like my favorite,
like like last year is Saturday, my last like five
holes is my like one of my favorite things that's
happened to me and golf, just because when you do
perform in front of those people, you guys would would
(17:52):
get this more. We don't get this very often, but
it's like the rush of it is well, you know,
it's worth not drinking the beers.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But yeah, there's still times where I'm like, god, dang,
it looks pretty, you know. If I get it on
like a little bogie around, I'm like, I could just
be out there right now, like, yeah, well I got
full act. I got this little credential gets me everywhere.
I could be doing all the coolest stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
But I don't know. It's a it's a good trade off.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Here's a question, how important in the scheme of Jay
rankings and all that is the waste management. That's what
I'm thinking, is this, why not become the golfer it's
drinking while you're playing.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
John Daly, Oh he does that. He smokes cigarettes and drinks.
He's the fine because you're not allowed to.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Drinks or not we're not allowed to Yeah, maybe that'll
be a.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Rule we could knock down just for this tournament. Just
like that's weird when you go to a dusta. I've
never been, but it's like the hot dogs are still
the same prices the day they open. They have like
message Yeah, like like presidents and like senators can like
golf on this place other than pro golfers, Like why
not make the waste management like the ultimate like fuck
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you to golf in a way that like takes this
these younger generations and it's like, oh, we want to
do this ship.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
This is awesome, not a terrible. Yeah, we could have
a one innovator.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Golf.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah. It's like you guys, watch the Wire.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I've not seen a lot. There's so many shows out
there now that are amazing, Like Last of Us is
now a thing that everyone's watching.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
But they have a thing called Hamsterdam where like the
in Baltimore, they made like you could do drugs in
this one square mile you could do whatever you wanted.
There was no rules, and like that's what this event
should be. It's like, yeah, the one place where like,
well we'll turn a blind eye to this.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That's perfect. Captioning. Maxholma thinks heroin should be allowed. Yeah,
no drugs.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
You brought that up. What's one rule you would change?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
In golf man?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Big Cat. Big Cat did say something on part of
my take once. I don't know if you guys ever
heard that one, but where he said that you should
be allowed to fight one fanny year.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Any sport.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
And I was like last year at the PGA in Oklahoma,
I was telling Joe my caddy about that rule because
there's this fucking guy that was just wearing me out
for like six holes in a row. He's clearly just
walking with us, and I was just like do. I
was like, that's the fucking guy, Like, that's my guy.
But you have to be smart about it because I'm
not like a super large man. I'd pick a small
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guy and I just go to town. And I think
I think that would be that would be a good one.
Obviously pretty pretty unrealistic, unrealistic rule change, but definitely something
if we thought of.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I do think that I do think that like live
towards doing it. Like shorts.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I don't mind, like you could wear shorts. It makes
us seem like at least a little less dorky, although
some people got like very white legs.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I the the real one is I guess the real
one I would do is like range finders, the lasers
you shoot the pin distance wise, I would use because
if everyone has one, I don't see the advantage of it.
So it's like, might as well do it. It'll speak
things up to an extent, makes things easier on everybody.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That one seems pretty basic, but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Is it.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
So?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Speaking of like fighting, guys, is there a golfer that
you would, given the opportunity, would maybe throw hands with?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
I mean, I get yeah, I mean it could be anybody.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Is somebody on the front of your mind. You can
say them, you don't have to say him. Who do
you think you could take in the tour? I could
take like I could take a lot of I was.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I was. I'm blessed.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
My dad was a boxer growing up, so he taught
me at a box. I'm very unassuming, like I know
I could at least I'm also not scared to get
my ass beat like that at some point. Yeah, like
like like we fought obviously, you guys are all.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Gonna kick my ass.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Like I'm cool with that, but like I'd rather do
that than like run, So I'm gonna at least stand
in there and take a few.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Uh. But yeah, I mean think that there's a lot
of guys on tour.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I would I would, I would like my chance against
But it's not like I dislike that many people, or
really anybody enough to just be like I'm just gonna
bite him. But I mean there's times when you're pissed
off and it's kind of just any when you make
like four bogies in a row, it's kind of just anybody.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, anybody's wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I'm ready right now. My dad always had this joke.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I wore a or this ugly ass pink shirt when
I was a junior golfer and this guy we were
leaving the course.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I paid so bad.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I'm so mad, steaming in the front seat. I'm probably
like fifteen sixteen, and this guy cuts off my dad.
He's usually like a little more of the hot head
than me, and I start yelling at the car.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
The guy in front. My dad goes. My dad goes,
if you.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Want to get out, you can get out, and he
was like, could you imagine like on the news, like
like golfer and pink shirt just beats the hell out
of some road raged driver. And I was like, yeah,
this probably wasn't gonna go that way. I probably you know,
end up flat on my back. But we have no
I've always been scared of a golfer actually fighting another
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because like, we just had a tee throwing incident a
year a week ago in Dubai. We have Rory McElroy
and uh Patrick Reed. Patrick Greed like flicked a tee
towards Rory and it was a humongous story, which is
pretty sad. And uh, I'm really nervous that if we
ever anybody did get in a real altercation. We just
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never make things look cool, and we can't make fighting
look cool. Like there's just no way since two golfers
are actually gonna have like a real fistfight that you're like,
oh wow, you know it's gonna be like oh boy,
you know, like, oh that was a bad look for
all of us.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
So I hope we view you know, it would bring viewers,
it would.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Cringe and like kind of be like okay, you know
I did indeed to see that. So I feel like
It's good that most of us are are smart enough
not to ever really even get into a hold me
back situation.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
We we avoid it at all costs.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Is there an internal rivalry that you have that your
opponent doesn't even know he's a part.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Of multiple but not in a I don't like them?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Why just like when I would want to beat him
way uh man Tom kim uh And he has the
same thing. I know he does because his Caddy is
one of my best friends. I know he has the
same thing. But we played singles at Presidents CuPy. The
sad part is sce he's twenty, I'm thirty two.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Hold on, hold on one second, yes, sir, I don't well.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Oh so are you gonna abide by the what you're
being told?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Hey, Dave gonna meet you.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
We're doing We're well in lying, brother, No, we're just
trying to do our part.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Because we're doing. We're doing you know why we're doing
And we've got people coming up be like, you can't talk.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Do you know why we're doing this down here? Because
we're doing the rundown right yesterday?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Because you have to do it.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
All I'm saying is we're trying to fuck we're trying.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
To do this.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Talk there or not you're allowed to talk?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I think, I mean yeah, like your house.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, I don't know, that's why I said, though I
came in and like the Boston guy says, no one
can talk up there.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
So what'd you said?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
What was your reaction here and asked permission to talk?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
All right, thanks.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I hope your shows so well.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
You never know what you're gonna get with him, you know,
when he made the comment, I was thinking about it too,
and he was like, when you're fifty three, fifty fourth roster,
you're gonna be early to the meeting. It's like when
you're the owner, you can show up whenever you want to.
But it's like, yeah, if you want to want to
run a pisspoor organization, lead from the front, he said,
found up, Lead from the front, Leading from the front,
Like that's culture, Like we know there's a heart out
here at ten fifteen, and he wants to come take
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three minutes of our time. That's hey, though, I tell
you what the day folks are the boys he does
fun with them.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Like that's he's the dad. He's the dad that's never
going to say I love you. But like the more
he makes fun of you, like he cares. Yeah, yeah,
he cares, and that's that's important. I feel like during
the thing, what'd you ask does he love you? You think, oh, yeah,
you love us? Yes, I think so. I mean I
think we're probably yeah, top five.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
People don't think he'll ever say it, and I think
he'll always like, you know, make those faces.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Like he'll just go yeah, I mean I like you guys,
guse you're fine. He usually I mean, you should doing
great job. He has worked for me, and he'll just
say something that like wouldn't make him seem like he's
the boss, and then we just's.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That one pat on the back. You're like, oh yeah, yeah,
he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I think he's not a whole lot of paths.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
He hangs with Silvana and they'll like look at some
more kind of stuff and they kind of chuckle.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, he'll be laying in bed and just kind of
but it'll never say you see this, He'll never say that,
like those guys are stupid, and they'll just kind of
keep scrolling.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I'm Kim, yeah, Kim.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So yeah, he's twenty, I'm thirty two.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Uh, he's a future or he already is super Star
Wars the Future just like World.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Beater, uh talent.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
And I think part of it is that I'm just
jealous that it took me so long to figure it
out and he's, you know, can't even legally drink and
he's just whooping up on all of us.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
That's probably part of it, and not a.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Lot of it is just Caddy and I, you know,
I have to see him all the time, so I
want to. I don't know, it's like it's like a
motivating thing. So I definitely, you know, check in how
he's doing in tournaments, and I hope that I win
more tournaments than he does h until I retire much
earlier than he will. But it's also an embarrassing one.
Like I said, you want a rival that's like your age,
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and this kid is like he's truly a child. So
what I was doing at twenty versus what he was
doing at twenty is just so drastically different.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
It's outrageous.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
But he's he's definitely ho on my list right now,
and he's also taking me to dinner next week. He's
taking me to a Korean barbecue next week in La So
we're all also really good friends.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I think closer.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, so I'm staying it. Yeah, but he might food
poison me. I'm not really sure. I don't know where
his rivalry in this stands, but I know I know
he feels similarly.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Is here this week? He's here this week?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah? Anything, that's when does it? It starts Thursday, right,
the first day of everything?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Startursday?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And do you get paired up with him a lot?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Or now I've been paired up with him? Maybe this
is where the other part.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I got paired up with him in Vegas this year
and then he won the golf tournament didn't make a
bogie for all seventy two holes, which is just like
not a real thing.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, so he did that, man? He so? Yeah? Is
uh you? You brought up caddies a couple of times, like,
I don't know golf. I probably swung a club ten
times in my entire life. I'm awful. But what is like,
how important is a caddy through the process of the
weekend for you, like sizing things up for you and stuff?
For me?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Is what do they do?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
In general? Just like give me the basic one on
one on what a caddy does.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Their bones is carry the clubs, clean the clubs and
get like numbers and kind of do like strategy type stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Mine is different.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I I've always valued caddies some guys, you know, everyone
wants something different. Some people want like some people want
like a psychologist kind of out there a friend out
there where they want somebody who's just really good at
like you know, getting waters, you know, just like a
almost like an assistant. Mine, I've been lucky. Mine is
one of my best friends. I've known him since I
was six. He was a great golfer. It still is
(28:53):
a good golfer, but he played pro golf for a
little bit back in the day. And uh so I
kind of get I'm lucky. I get I get a
really like really good caddies, great at all the strategy, all.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
The picking what club to hit. He's great at all that.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
But he's also like someone I enjoy walking around with
because we're we're together more than I'm with you know,
my wife really over the last like six years, we
spend so much time together.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So I need to like like that person because if.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I if I start to get resentful of being around
somebody that much, it would be hard to do my job.
But so I I kind of get like the full
the full package with mine. So it's like I said,
everyone's different. Like I had a caddy one time filling
for Joe. He was gone for a week, and every
time he gave me water, like he'd have like the
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top almost off so I didn't.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Have to open the top. I'm like, nice, though, yeah,
but I'm like, I'm so good at that.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I can do that, you know, I don't need to
help with that. I need help, Like, is it seven
or eight iron?
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So it's just like everybody.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
But clearly at some point somebody told him like that
was a thing, which is also sad and crazy to me.
But uh, I don't know some people. Everyone everyone's different,
I guess. But I like, I like having a friend
out there that like enjoy the winds together and then
the losses we can like discuss and and I have
a lot of faith and trust in what he'll suggest
that we should do better.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Have you ever blew a gasket on him?
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
It's actually funny. He's yelled at me more than I've
yelled at him.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
It's kind of my running running joke about how like
last year, last year, maybe it's two years ago at
Pebble Beach Sunday. I got off to a great start
and on the fifth hole, I hit in a bunker
and I had a fuck line and made double bogie.
And then the next hole, I hit in the bunker
and got a fuck lie and I hit a really
good shot and got a terrible bounce. I had like
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twenty feet, and I like kind of bitched and moaned
about it. And that's why I like joke, because I
always tell myself if I'm being a bitch, you tell
me I'm being a bitch, and I'll stop. Like he's
older than me, like I was like, you know, you're
kind of big brother.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I'll listen to you.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, And and but I kind of like bitched and
moaned to him about like I was like, what a
fucking bounce, you know, like so fucking bad. And he
snapped on me and he goes, you know, I don't
even remember what he said.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
He yelled at me, looked like Jesus Christ, like in
front of the people. Oh my good god. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Basically he was like he's like quick complaining he had
a great fucking shot.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It's like not that big a deal whatever.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
So I'm like okay, and I walked over and I
unfortunately I made the putt, which was like maybe part
of him just scaring the life out of me.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
And he comes over to me like, this is why
I'm our relationship. I love it so much.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
He comes over me and goes, dude, I'm so sorry, but
I want to rake that bunker on five.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
My back went out and I'm like, I'm kind of
on tilt right now. I'm like Okay. He goes, I'm
really sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
But I've only really yeah, I've only really gotten mad
at him, like a couple of times. Uh so like
he I don't think I've ever yelled at him, but yeah,
it's it's fun when he is wrong. And there's been
a couple of times where like he catches, he catches
when I could. I know he's wrong and I go
to say something and he's like got his head downe
He's like, sorry, sorry, sorry, my bad, sorry, sorry sorry,
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because he knows like I don't air him out.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Everyone's trying their best. It's impossible.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I mean, he's guessing what you know, educated guess and
what we should be doing. So when he's wrong, it's
not like I'm like whatever, But every once in a while.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Like one time, you know, I'm telling him it's six,
aren't it's five?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
He says five and I'm saying six, and it's five
and I have five and it goes over the green.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's fucked.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
And like that's when I can at least at least
look at him and be like, you know, I was right,
And sometimes that's all I need.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
But I don't yell.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
You hear some guys blow up and there are some
funny fucking stories, but uh, man.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I just don't have that in me.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Where are you at in the argument of golf being
a sport or not?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Man, I'm like very middle Like, I don't it's active.
Uh it does warm my heart when like my friends
who are real athletes, like the no argument athlete, when
they go play golf and then they tell me next
day like their back hurts and their shoulders are hurting.
I'm like, see, shit's fucking, But yeah, it's it's probably not.
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I think if we had to carry our own clubs,
I wouldnsider it a sport.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
But it's just it's just it. Yeah, we're tiptoe on
the line.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
We're we're definitely like people bat dog cheerleading and say
that's not a sport, and they did it way more
athletic than we are, so like they're not even if
they're not even getting approved, then like we shouldn't be
approved fully yet, but we're we're gaining on it, but
I wouldn't like you guys are, like there's a humongous
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difference between like football and baseball and basketball and then
like golf.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Like this is noticeable.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Just the eye tests would tell you that, Like we're
not doing a whole lot, but it is active. It's
harder than you think. But yeah, it's definitely not not
rigging rigorous enough to consider like a full blown sport.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
But we're in this sport family.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
We're just the way you handled that, yeah, outrageous question
was extremely graceful, Like could have easily.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Taken get their fun or back there by piss right now.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
You heard a lot of bunch of scoffs in the
back when you said that, because they all were thinking
that it's not When did you decide like they're prove
when we were like this is this is for me,
That's what I'm gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
In a real sports Uh So I played Uh you know,
like football, basketball, and golf. Those were like my three
like loves grown up receiver.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Were you a slot receiver?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So I was gonna be the great white Hope. I
was a nasty corner. Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
A boy from Iowa out there trying to live the dream.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
You see that.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Unicorn, we have to protect it.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So uh but yeah, so I was like damn, uh
I was like eleven. So it's not like I thought
of that at all, but uh, I think who was
a seahorn back in the day. Yeah he was, So
I mimicked my game after him. But yeah I was.
I was all right, I I I'm fast, like that's
kind of my thing. Never was a big guy, but
I can. I can fly around a little bit. And uh,
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I like saying that because you can't prove that I can.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
So looks like you can.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Probably it looks like you can run around a little.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Bit though, Yeah, but you're never gonna see it.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
When you're like at a Part five or something like that,
get a good sprint to your ball, kind of show
everybody what's what.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
That would be funny if you like h.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Like yacks down there, dude, that would be awesome, that'd
be incredible.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
It was like eleven and my dad kind of stutely said, hey, man,
if you want to be a professional athlete, like you
need to pick one, like this is your time, Like
you need to treat it like a job. And he goes,
I think you should only be doing one. And I
sat there and looked in the mirror and I'm like,
I'm five ft two, can't really jump. I think I'm fast,
but I've met a lot of guys faster, and I
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was like, I think golf is the way to do it.
So it wasn't like I thought that I was baby
better at golf, but I felt like it might fit
me better.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
It didn't get hit, nobody had to hit me. Uh
and yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
So then it was like from eleven on, I quit
everything else and started going the golf course six days
a week.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
My parents drop me off and bang balls. I didn't
know I was gonna.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Make it, make it for a while, but I've always said, man,
for for anybody who's ever made it, and probably anything,
but especially sports, you need like the perfect amount of delusion,
because if when you tell a kid like I remember,
I had teachers be like, what do you want to
do when you grow up. My mom be on the
PJA tour and they'd be like, okay, but if that
doesn't work out, what are you gonna do? And I'm like,
why the fuck would that not work out? Like I
work at this as hard as you work at your job,
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like it's gonna work. But like, looking back on it
now is like a thirty two year old dude. It's
like the fact that a kid I was just like, yeah,
of course I'm gonna make it. Here is like you
have to be a bit crazy, but like you have
to have enough of that realism and awareness to know that,
like it's gonna be really hard, but and you have
to change things, not like I'm just gonna wake up
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and just make it.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
But also you have to have enough delusion.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
To a se anytime anybody everybody ever said hell man,
you know that's that's crazy, like you might need a
backup plan, I could look at you and be like, no,
like that's that's not how you make it.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
You don't make it with the backup plan. So, uh,
it's kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
But I was thankful my dad did that when I
was young, because you do, in my opinion, need to
unless you're one of those freak, you know, bo Jackson
type people, like you need to focus on one thing
because there's so many people that are working at it
and that are great at it that like, you can't
be wasting time. I couldn't be wasting time trying to,
you know, figure out if I was going to blow
up the guy in the flat or not.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Like that's just that. Don't been wasting my time.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
So you guys seem like you're more the the family style,
that is, pick do one sport when you're growing up.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I want, I want because.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I know you probably are aware of those arguments.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
I like golf, it could be likef you might have
to put in that type of.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Golf one of those sports. And hockey is one of
those sports I gets. I grew over a thirteen in hockey.
You can't do anything else. You got to do that.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
If I want my kid, If you decide to play sports,
I wanted to play all of them because I do
think it makes you a well rounded human. Like I
think that there are golfers who have grown up and
only played golf, and I think that they they only
play yeah, and I don't think that's a good thing
personality wise is great for their their their game, But
like I don't think, yeah, that's what it does feel
like that. It's like they take some of themselves very
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seriously and it's like our biggest, most popular golf tournament.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Is just a party. That's Scottsdale.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
So it's like we're not we're low on the totem pole,
we're growing. Tiger put us everybody on the map. He
changed the change the landscape of golf forever for all
the professionals. But at the end of the day, I
do think that it's important to play a lot of
sports just to get I also think it helps with
your hand to eye. I think all those things are
important to growth. But yeah, I mean, it's golf is different.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
It is.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
It will always be a slower, older, older person sport
just because it's not taxing on the body. It's the
thing that all you know, so many athletes and so
many super athletes decide to like play after because it's
you know, I was on a phone call with Larry
Fitzgerald yesterday and he is obsessed with golf.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
You've never met so many more obsessed with golf. And
this dude is a.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
No, no doubt or Hall of Famer probably. I mean,
he should be in the conversation for best of all time.
And this dude just like he's asking me questions about
how do I get better at golf? Because that's the
thing is. It doesn't beat him up anymore. It's a passion.
It is hard. But I think that his personality and
his outlook towards the game is benefited from the fact
that he played other things growing up. And I think
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that's why people love Larry and golf now because he
doesn't take himself seriously because he's humbled by the game
of golf. But we all also respect him because he's
a legitimate freak of nature.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
When you keep saying that golf is always gonna be
an older man sport, how do you like, in what
ways can we make the younger generation appreciate golf more? So,
I'll give you, Like, for example, like when I'm in
high school, me and all my buddies never thought about
golf at all. Soon does everyone graduated college All of
a sudden, all my boys are picking up clubs and
doing whatever, and like, this is great for business, this
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is great for that. Like, how do you start leaking
into the high school like that. You know, the younger
age is that they start picking up the clubs more.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
So it needs to be more accessible. So golf course
I grew up on is parse sixty one. So most
golf course par seventy two. Public golf course had a
Part three course, nine holes, the longest holes one hundred
and fifty yards, and it was owned by a company
called American Golf. And they had a deal at least
in all the ones that they owned around where I
grew up that you know, if you were under like
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twelve eleven or somewhere like that, you could play the
Part three course for one dollar all day and then
you've played the big one for like sixteen dollars. And
as golf is boomed because of the pandemic golf blew
up across the country, golf course are getting more expensive.
And that's okay, it's a business, but like let the
kids play, like get them out there, get them out playing,
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get them out. The deals on hitting balls like bang
the balls is let's just say it's eight dollars a bucket,
make it three so that they don't have to go
beg their parents for twenty dollars and you know, like
make them feel like it's it's okay.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
And also it will I don't.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Know if this one will ever change, but the adults
need to get that are at the golf course need
to clean up their act and stop kind of ho humming.
Oh man, I'm with a kid today. It's like my
dad would always say that, and he liked it because
I was, you know, a good player as a young
young kid. But he would say, you know, we get
paired with another another two dudes that who obviously don't
know us, strangers, and he would he'd say he always
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loved it because they'd roll their eyes to their friend, like,
oh god, we got to play with this kid today.
And my dad would make me play fast, like if
I if it took me too long to get off
the box, he would just have me play up where
his drive was.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
But like by the end of the day, these guys like,
oh my god, this kid's so good.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
But it's like, don't you like judged me before you
Like the point is to get in, like get people
into this game so that the pros are doing I
think a good job I have, like I know, Patrick
Can'tley hosts three golf tournaments on the court on the tournaments.
We grew up playing in Southern California in the SCPGA
Southern California Professional Golf Association, So then I'm doing my
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first one in two weeks, and I think that helps
a little bit, kind of giving kids that look up
to you know, maybe you know, even if they aren't
into golf, but they have to watch it because their
dad makes them here and there, and they say, hey,
you know so and so is hosting a golf tournament.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
I want to play in that one day. Maybe that
could be an avenue.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
But I just think accessibility and these adults need to chill.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Like if a.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Kid's being loud at the golf course, you don't need
to reprimand them, like go just say, hey, you know,
we're a little quieter here to respect thing, but like,
don't make it where I have to walk on eggshells
because I felt like that as a kid a lot.
And unfortunately my dad didn't make me double down and
feel that. He's like, hey, you know, kind of like
screw them, do your thing, but be respectful.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
But he said it in a nicer way.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
But there's just like this stuff, it can be stuffy,
and that just turns kids off. The kid's attention spans
are doore. That's why football so like it's like America's
sport and it's so fun to watch because it's like quick,
quick hitting highlights like highlights in golf.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Like you, they're slow and they're not as riveting.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
But if you ever played the game, you'd be like, fuck,
that's amazing, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
But it's just like it's it's not.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Like right off the top of your head that it
would be like so clearly fun. So I hope that
I hope that as things go on, like kids will
start to feel more welcome to come out.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Course, because I tell I tell all the people who are.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Just even my friends, as you reference, they get out
of college and like, man, I want to play golf.
I don't embarrass myself. I'm like, I'm like, who are
you worried is going to embarrass you? And they'll be like, oh,
you know there's this guy that was playing the other day.
I said, well just picture this. If I come out,
I'll beat the shit out of that guy at golf.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Like he'd be embarrassed to play with me.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
And I don't give a shit, So like you go play,
just go have fun, do your thing. Don't like that's
the problem. There's like this weird there's a weird thing
in golf that I'm hoping slowly gets gets torn down
a bit.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
But is that a weird thing you're kind of implying,
Is that they get up at the vibe?
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I think it is. But I just think, like, okay, so.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
If I go play, if I went and played football
with you guys, obviously I would look like an actual
like a draft, like a baby's giraffe out there, like
I wouldn't know what to do. I baby catch a few,
I'd maybe trip a few times. I'd look like an idiot.
But I feel like the nature of that sport, like
the intuition isn't just to immediately like make fun of
that person. It's like, you know, it's just like, oh,
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it's fun. It's a backyard game, you know. But golf
doesn't feel like a backyard game at least and how
it was made it was a gentleman's Sport's a gentleman's game,
but it's like it is it should be a kid's game. Shit,
We're whacking a fucking golf ball through the air and
everyone sucks at it.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Like I suck at it sometimes, like it's so hard.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
So I just think that there is an uppitting this
to it, that like as you get better and you
have to pay to play. So I guess maybe part
of is kind of like going back to the public
transportation the sky thing. Oh I'm paying three hundred dollars
for a flight. I don't want this baby crying behind me.
It's like, well, tough shit. Like there's a kid out
here gonna learn and he just wants to get better
at the same game you want to get better at.
Like let him like, let him have a chance, let
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her have a chance, and like just see what happens
and make it fun and make it enjoyable. There's something
weird about Maybe it's just the price point of it
that I think people feel entitled to, Like this is
my day and I want it to go exactly how
I think it should go, and it just drives me nuts.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
I'm glad I.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Grew up at the golf course I grew up at
because it was not like that nearly as much. It
was a men's club. All the boys have beers. I
would sit there and wait for my dad to finish.
I'd hit balls get a soda and we would go
home and it was very like everyone can play. No
one's getting strokes, go prove yourself, and that's how you
grow up and learn. But golf in general just doesn't
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seem like it's gotten over that hump fully yet, but
I think it will. I think Tiger made an enormous
impact on that because he made kids feel cool to
play golf, at least for me. When someone's like, oh,
you play golf as dorky, I'm like, go watch this
fucking guy play golf because it is not dorky is
it's exciting and it's cool.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
I think what Netflix is doing too with that, Yeah,
like the Formula one, yeah, formula, but them doing it
with the golf and everything else. I think that's going
also for you, like giving you your flowers. To me,
it's like the way you are your personality on social media,
you do make it seem like you have an edginess,
a looseness about you to where you make the golfing
fun like good day, bad day. You're still gonna whether
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it's you need to show up on social media or not,
like you make it seem like, oh, he's doesn't take
it so serious, even though you are a pro at
your craft. Clearly, if anybody's listening to this, it seems
like you've been all in on this thing for a while.
But I like admire from Afar your ability to play
good or play bad and talk about it in a
way that's like relatable to people.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
I feel like people thank you.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Yeah, I guess, I guess i'd put it as I don't.
I take what I do very serious. I don't take
myself very serious. And I hope that kids and fans
of golf grasp that like concept, because like, I want
to be everybody every time I play, but I also
know that if I don't, it's not everyone's problem that
I didn't. Yeah, man, mine, And like I said, I
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want golf to flourish. And I love this game and
it is it has a lot of benefits to it
for you know, business and honestly just joy. And so
it's like at some point, uh, it's it's fun and
we're playing golf in a field. Man, It's it's awesome.
But there's just little little wall we got to knock down.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Netflix. That's a great point.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
They'll do a great job of showcasing, at least for
kids to be able to see a real TV show, Like,
oh shit, maybe I want to try that, right and
like then get out and do it because it is
weird man like every like you said every single one
of my friends right after college like fuck man, like
I want to learn how to play golf?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Whoul I do?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
And I'm like, god, dang, I wish you would have
said this we're fifteen, because I would have a lot
more friends.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
I know it's it's ten twenty right now. We know
you got to go. But the last thing we'll ask
is you seem like your mindset is just like really
just well done. Like you seem like you've really put
things into perspective, understanding that just because I lost doesn't
mean it's everybody else's issue enjoying whether you win or
lose in the way you projected to everybody else. Like
how is that? Like, is your mindset always been that
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way or did you have to navigate through the ups
and downs of golf to really fine the calm that
you're dealing with right now?
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, I mean even the like it goes ebbs and flows.
I some days, I'm I can act like an asshole.
I try to keep it to myself, but like if
you're you know, you know, Joe, my wife Lacy, like
they would know when I'm being kind of a dick
about it. But I guess a lesson I learned, Like
I've always thought of myself as a respectful person. And
I remember I had a really bad attitude for a while,
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like through college, and I can't remember if exactly what happened,
but it was one day where I think someone like
almost pointed out to me, like when if there's two
other people at least playing with us every day and
if I'm being an asshole out there, that person has
to deal with me and I'm ruining their day. And
I'm like, oh, that's not what I mean to do,
Like I'm just trying to ruin my own day.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Shit.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, So like I guess that's kind of when I
also have a bad attitude in my own head now,
but I try my best. Like some people will be like,
oh man, you're so calm and your attitude so good,
and it's like some days it's not very good. I
just don't want people to see that anymore because it's
embarrassing and it's and it's rude, Like it's rude to
the other guys out there that I play against who
are also trying to do the same shit I am
if they got to deal with some little sour puss,
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you know, stomping their feet and stuff.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
But no, it's it's everything that I've been. I've been flow.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
But I think as I've gotten older, I've just realized
that you're gonna have good weeks, You're gonna have bad weeks,
and at the end of the day, you know, the
journey is is that that's that's the fun part. The
winds come, the winds go, things things, You have bad weeks,
you know where it feels like the end of the world,
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But like the fun part is just getting facing that forever.
And I think as I've gotten older and appreciated that,
I've appreciated some of the bad days more because it's like,
all right, this is the day I'm gonna learn. When
you win, you learn a little bit, but you when
you fail, you learn quite a bit. And before I
would kind of back myself away from that and be like, God,
sucks doing this, But knowing that you're not gonna win
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every golf tournament, it's kind of you can appreciate the
weeks where you have to grind and and dig it
out a little bit and turn you know nothing into
something so but it's it's all been a learning curve.
I mean, if you ask my friends when I was
sixteen to twenty, they probably thought it was the biggest
tool bag in the world playing golf. But I've been
trying to get a better hit that.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Brother, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on this show,
and you guys are the best.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, man, it's been fun watching social media. For those
of you subscribe, unsubscribe, resubscribe. Our favorite golfer of all time,
Max Homa. We're rooting for him this week at the
Waste Management Buddy, Hope you take home that trophy.
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