Marcus Freeman on Playoff Heartbreak, NFL Coaching Rumors + CJ Carr's Breakout Year | Bussin' - Bussin' With The Boys

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome into another episode of Bus with
the Boys. I know what you're thinking right now, Agatha,
my god, Taylor, is that a hat that says uncle?
And yes it does. We've been trying to get this
hat for two years. It is now available on BWTB
dot com. Comes in this beautiful black and white. There's
also a couple other flavors as well for you to
look into. This episode. Today is a very special episode.
Our vlog from Notre Dame has now come out. You

(00:22):
can go watch that on our YouTube channel if you're
checking in here. We're talking Game of Thrones. We're talking
what happened at the Masters past weekend. Are we mad
at Rory or not Matt at Rory?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Or about them? Who is the goat?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
What happens when you do off the field, all those
types of things, and obviously Marcus Freeman and CJ. Carr
and for those of you wondering, we finally address the
mic Rabel stuff.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Get in this episode.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Alright, We're good bussing with the bus, hanging.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
With the bet again.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
No moment's gonna tells not be. We're here just drinking beer.
Make a baby, I'm hanging with.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
The Fellers Busting with the Boys.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
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Speaker 1 (02:48):
I mean, it's incredible. We just this weekend just took place.
We lost the final four and a frozen four in hockey.
I saw that, I know, I know, double overtime to
Denver who and neverab they won the National Championship double overtime.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
So you guys are in the National Championship.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
We were in the Frozen four. We lost, We lost
the Frozen four, and then Denver went to play Wisconsin
in the National Championship in Denver and Wisconsin couldn't get
it done.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
For the couldn't get it done. Couldn't get it done.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Something about those like hockey schools like Denver, Minnesota, Duluth.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
They're just weird schools.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
That are just like sneaky, always great at hockey. And
then I saw this thing. It's like from like twenty
eleven or two thousand and five even it was like
Frozen four, Frozen four National Championship frost for all these
Michigan things like how far we've gotten brides made but
never the bride type of situation for Michigan. Really yeah,
and the ten since the tens, we have to look
up that staty, we'll have to look up that stat again.

(03:40):
Pumps some in I it's a pump.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Some nil one program.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, yeah, always the uncle, never the dead, you.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Know, by the way them uncle had say, look good.
BWTV dot com for those uncles out are officially out.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
We've been wanting to pump these boys for a minute.
Do we get it close up on after a minute?
For years, for years, Jack, get just put your faces
close to can to that camera.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
Also, please comment if you'd like a cat as well,
just the cat. I think the city needs this, the
country needs this, the world needs this more than ever
right now.

Speaker 7 (04:14):
So. But these hats are fire and they fit great.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
They look fantastic In a pre production meeting today.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
You sat down.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I thought there was a unique are about you glowing.
He didn't see the hat. And then all of a sudden,
I think Jeremy Clump said, hey, n cats around.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I go, oh, what are we talking about? Jacket? That
small turn towards me. That's slow turned towards me. I
like to I feel like Clump is always rocking. The
fly had the upside down flyhouse hats. How many how
many colorways you got with the flyhouse? He's got.

Speaker 8 (04:42):
I got pretty much everything he's Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Know he does. Because anytime we get to travel around
and you all you gotta do is look at the list.
If Jeremy Clump's name is on the list, you know
you're flying on a good plane.

Speaker 7 (04:53):
You're in a falcon.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
If Jemmie Cumps on the list, it says heavy jet.
If we're not on the list, it says a small jet.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Right already.

Speaker 7 (05:03):
I agree, Yes, I'm with you, guys.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Jeremy clip has the same deal with flyouts is probably
Roy McElroy does. The way he was flying back and
forth to.

Speaker 8 (05:11):
The table deal with no no, buddy, you know he
got it's on the table.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
How active are you with JJ?

Speaker 8 (05:19):
I talked to JJ every day basically, which is JJ
from Flyous is great. He commented on my birthday post
and said that I'm the best. I was like, man,
that's my.

Speaker 7 (05:28):
Guy right there.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Love JJ, little birthday, little birthday, thirty three. Hey, happy
birthday for every birthday.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
See how I got out of that.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah. Bringing it back to it, how fun was it
flying the Notre Dame in Miami last week? Due incredible
good games on the plane?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, great games in the plane, Darre, Do you want
to talk about the games a little bit?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
The games were everything? What was it? I know what am?
I who I am? I know who I am?

Speaker 9 (05:56):
Basic premise, just you know who you are or what
you are and object or a person no one else does.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
It very much became I know what I am because
the detail that people were getting to. JP didn't even
get to do his. He's just got been. I think
club ended up doing his.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
I stole it.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, yeah, were receipt. I was a receipt.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah we ut it was a great Yeah, it was
a great one. Well else was a Jack's tire swing
rope rope swing had you on a blender for a second? Yeah,
due we Yeah, I think like landing, getting on the
bus and halfway to Notre Dame, we were still trying
to figure out that damn great game.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Great great game.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Shout out Charles for the game. Shout out Charlo Bay
shot dude.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Charlie got it from Donnie and I don't know where
Donnie got.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
It right, because we were out in Arizona late night
on some vitamins and we were like, what games should
we play? And Charles brought that up, and it's well.
I played that at breakfast at Proper Bagel yesterday with
my kids. I bodied them, body them, had him with
the bottle cap. They had no no idea where they
were going.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Did you get that from someone? Did down the plane?
I did.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I just doubled down on one of my headers. Ye
new audience, you needed him with ask jeeves next time.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
That was one.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
That was a nice one. Should we had some callbacks,
Let's sit some callbacks.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
So all the all the tier the tier ones, twos
and threes, you want to engage and communicate with the
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(07:36):
Latest episode being coach Jerry maguire Joey Sorry sorry joe
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(07:56):
which comes topic, question, conversation, anything that your little art desires. Yeah,
that'll be later in the intro. And then questions with
our guests. So this week we have on Coach Freeman,
we had on c J. Carr. Fans chimed in asked
some questions to them. We asked those questions comfortable, uncomfortable,
doesn't matter. We ask them because hey, Coach, this is

(08:17):
from the audience. This isn't from us exactly. And you'll
see that mostly next week in Miami. Yeah, mostly in Miami.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
You will notice we really have to be like, these
are not from us, but yeah, you have to answer them.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
You decided to come on. This is a stupid question
I'm gonna ask you just no, I think it's stupid too,
but we're gonna ask you yeah, go ahead and get
in there.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
This one comes from at Grant Jen Drush.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
D are you s c H fourteen sixty six.

Speaker 10 (08:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
If Will got to do a tag partner, he didn't
need Vida Bay.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
I think that's a big Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Partner is a good one, outstanding.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
The one that matters to me and boys, can you
just said you're going to bring it up during the pod? Oh?
But the one that was the most the most like,
the most popular. This one's from pet Owner two to
one five on YouTube. Can we get a segment where
the boys twice a year get a light detector test
on the show and can at and can ask each
other questions about things that happened during the year, real

(09:18):
questions to see if they actually support or believe in
their teams at different times throughout the season. Want to
see if the boys are for the boys, or if
some beefs aren't settled. Ask Josh Pate who he secretly
roots for. Ask Clay if he thinks he's the best
talent on the pod, et cetera. I think it's a
brilliant idea. Whatever the consistency is, I think it needs

(09:40):
to be like throughout obviously football season. You do with Delaney,
you do with Clay, you do with Peate, obviously us.
But I think that's a I think that's a banger idea.
Who do you think would be the biggest liar? Park Clay, Taylor?
Taylor would be the liar. Clay would be a liar.
Hold on, I didn't have next person. We're just having

(10:03):
fun show. This is a show. We're having fun. Let's
have fun. Ex funny our answer, I don't he answer.
I need more time to think about it. Okay, but
just Taylor, Yeah, like you're asking questions, just get just
get you, just get you going, get you going, get
you going, and boom got him, just like you guys
would do with me. That's the fun. The brilliance of
the segment.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
I will never lie on that, you will never catch
me to lie on that, clean take, clean take ever.
And the fact that my supposed best friends like, oh
my best my best friend's a liar on a time
out of time out time. You know what I think
would be awesome is I'm a guy that when I
hear a good idea, I want to do it all
the time. I think we have to just way more
than twice. Yes, be like a once a month, just

(10:44):
gp I have to.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I can't. I can't let us go away from what
you're just saying. I just need you to know, buddy,
I'm gonna be a man about it. I'm gonna take that.
I'm gonna bundle it up.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I'm gonna put my back pocket and I'm gonna unleash
it on some person that has no idea what's going on.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
This guy's so mad. I see, I see you bottled
it up in a different don't like that. I was
trying to express the light. The light is the fun light. Okay,
show me the fun light of how Taylor is a liar.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
We won't know until we get into the season, right,
but listen, we're trying to keep the vibe. See this
episode thirty seven, the vibe guys to subscribe. I'm not
trying to argue my boy, but if someone asked a question, Hey, suirre,
who do you think the liar is out of these guys,
and someone goes, I.

Speaker 11 (11:23):
Would say, hey, clean take, I don't think there's a
liar amongst us, because that was a clean take earlier.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Wow, clean take, that's a clean take.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Now ask me, ask me. I'll be Will surem asked me.

Speaker 11 (11:36):
I'll be well, oh okay, uh clean take. Do you
think anybody on this bus is a liar?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Oh yeah, Taylor? See how that feels? Well, how did
he get there? What do you got? I'm taking a
note right now, don't ever joke about Taylor being a liar.
I'm just I'm just shotting that. Okay, yeah, we have
fear joke. We don't want to have fun. Okay, we don't
want to have fun.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
That's a great pivot to make everybody a little more
uncomful than the Discover already feeling rare.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
We got there.

Speaker 11 (12:07):
A real fun way that we could implement the lie
detector test is when y'all do y'all's predictions for Nebraska
and Michigan for this upcoming season. That could be like
a nice set.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
That could be fun.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
That would be a fun that'd be a taste test
that could be a fun one that could be fun.
That's a clean take, because it's sorry to get through
my I think we just need to scrap the lins.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think seem like it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
A point to prove now Taylor cheats, Taylor lies Like
I had to get these things off I mean the
only way to do that is with a line detector test.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
So strap me down. Yeah, this is true?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Right, what's the next callback?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
What's the next callback? What's the next callback? It's a
good callback here all.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
From tc lawan seventy seven. Why as will know this
one is? Let's see here had a good one. What's
Kobe Marvel? Oh, Kobe Marvel for seven and one? So
thank you so much for showing love and support to
West Texas and Texas Tech football program. TTU athletics revolves
around a very connected and hard working community of people.
The character and work ethic of West Texas is unmatched.

(13:15):
I'm glad that the nation will get to experience rack them,
followed by a comment by CBR on the score nine
two nine five. A lot of places are like that.
You're not special, clean, fun seeing, just hard to have
vibes in this bus today.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Texas Tech fans, Baylor fans, like TCU fans chime in
like when we're dropping stuff. Remember when the backers were
talking to us about the horse and they were explaining,
they were explaining that the horses ass faced Baylor and
they're breaking it down to me. But seeing those fan
bases just go back and forth about oh, when'd you
guys become a rival? Had a good time reading those comments.

Speaker 11 (13:50):
And I think it's the literal interpretation of the horses
ass facing Waco when Baylor plays Texas Tech. That's called
the butt boll b U versus t T the butt ball.
So it's a literal interpretation of the butt ball. So
he's got a lot of layers, a lot of.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Layers, a lot of depth, yeah, a lot of peeling
back the onion.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Terror Massou has layers seven
layer dip has layers.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Seven layer dip as well. I was trying to think
of my head.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I was like, buddy, you go to you a nice
summer cookout right there, and you see that in the
plastic and usually have to look at it right before
everyone digs in. Incredible seven layer dip rips. Clean take right,
shoutout Kevin's as fruits.

Speaker 7 (14:38):
All right.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Uh, this one comes from Chase Daniel. Chase Daniel says,
is Roy on the goat path?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I think I am the guy who can answer that.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Possibly, Okay, tell me what needs to happen for him
to become on the actual path.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Has anyone won back to back to back?

Speaker 7 (14:58):
Yes, is that?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Who is that? Arnold Palmer?

Speaker 7 (15:01):
No, No one's won back to back to back at
the Masters.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
So if he does that, would he be the goat?

Speaker 7 (15:06):
No?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Okay, Mitch is a golf look look, look, hand up,
sue me, not a golf sicco. But you said you
can answer that, Yeah, I can possibly.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, then fallow up with a question, right if he
seems pretty good? It seems like people like, I think
he's good. Yeah, I think already. I think he's a
great golfer. Yeah. I was looking at my timeline here,
so people seem to uh uh be upset that he
got some favorable things that went his way. I saw that.
Can you expand on a little bit for the audience.

(15:38):
I will do my best. It seemed like the course
was softer on the first couple of days and they
firmed it up for Rory. Maybe I don't know. I
have no clue. That's where I'm out of my that's
out of my jurisdic right, So okay, not the person
that can answer that question, not that one. But maybe
chef can answer that question his hands raised, I can
answer that question. So on a Thursday Friday, the the

(16:00):
conditions were a little softer, and that plays into basically
when you tea off. So if you tee off in
the morning, the maintenance screwl usually water the greens and stuff,
so you're expecting a little bit of softer, more wet conditions.
Whereas if you have a late tea off where you're
going into the back of the afternoon, the greens firm up,
sun starts killing and it can you know, you're playing

(16:21):
basically a different course. So usually Augusta is really good
about keeping the course pretty similar throughout the week. And
then there's been a lot of complaints about this week.
They've been going through a drought, so a lot more
emphasis on like how they prep the course, and a
lot of people are upset because Rory teed off late
on Thursday and then Friday day softened it up. Yeah,

(16:41):
that's right, and I think he went at a favorable time.
Sounds right for the early tea time, and a.

Speaker 11 (16:46):
Lot of live guys, a lot of live guys had
some non favorable tea times. People are just kind of
putting those two and two together. A lot of live
guys the good favorable tea times. Masters has always kind
of had had a take on the live stuff versus PGA.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
The game within the game within the game, high level
stuff going on right there.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Damn, that's great. Damn so so so, Chef, where are
you at? You're you're a golfer strongly said, no, he's
not on the path, Chef, So just preface that I
am a Rory hater. Yesterday was a bad day for me.
Yesterday was a hard day after the first one last
year that was tough, but you're like, okay, he finally
got the Grand Slam and then last year, uh, going

(17:33):
in that second nine, which I got corrected on. There
were seven guys that could have taken it yesterday and
it just felt like everyone the uh, the belt tightened
around the neck, so to speak, as they say, and
Rory just kept on pace. No one really gave him
a good challenge, Scott. He missed a couple of putts.

Speaker 12 (17:50):
Rory is gonna go down as one of the better
golfers of all time in terms of goat. I think
it's gonna take a lot more. He has six majors.
You really need to get above like eight to nine
where you get in that kind of stratosphere. Level with
Nicholas Tiger and some of those cats, Hogan. But for
the moment, if he wins three in a row with
the Masters, that will change things, and that says a

(18:12):
Rory Hayter, that will be something unprecedented and it would
be very hard to deny, even for someone that dislikes
Rory McRoy.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
A lot a lot of people dislike Rory because he's
kind of an arrogant prick yep yep, So like people
don't really like him because he kind of carries himself
a certain kind of way. But like he he was
one of the ones that was very like anti live
golf and very pro PGA, which you can understand and
like respect, but he just has this like arrogance and

(18:42):
around him and like a lot of another reason why
people really pissed off is because he was able to
play Augusta for like two or three weeks before the Masters,
and people were saying that he was kind of getting
like special treatment being able to do that, because not
everybody is able to do that like he is. Golf's
like I don't know how you would describe it. Yeah,
he's like the golden child of the PGA golfs and

(19:03):
he was kind of given special treatment, so therefore he
had more practice on like new and practice all of
these crazy different shots which then helped then ended up helping.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Him or all of the other because I saw that too,
because people are like, oh I did I I never
understood why people didn't like Rory, but now I can
kind of get it. And it's him talking about being
able to play a couple weeks earlier. But I'm thinking, like,
wouldn't you want to do that?

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Like, would you want to if you have the access
to practice, you probably would.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Playing these other terms because he's preparing for the biggest one,
so he's like, the better use of my time is
going up and preparing for the Masters or preparing for Augusta.

Speaker 12 (19:37):
So to answer that, in order to play Augusta, you
I believe if you're a champion, you have a year
where you can go play it. That might be wrong,
but you have to play with a member. It's a
very exclusive club. Getting a membership invite is second to impossible.
You kind of just have to. I mean, there's only
a couple hundred in the world. So basically, no matter what,
even if you're a past champion, if you want to
go play, you have to go play with a member,

(19:59):
so a lot of players don't have that access to Augusta,
which is why people are getting mad. Also, there were
three tournaments, you know, coming up to Augusta, all in Texas,
and he basically said, why play those when I can
just go fly to Augusta, And people were pissed because
a lot of players just don't have that access at all.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
He's basically saying, I'm better than those three tournaments, so
they don't. I don't want to waste my time.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
But the question if he is we're talking about possibly
be in the goat positions, which means he's had a
lot of success.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
And just playing the other side of the we're just
playing on.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
The other side of the argument because I'm not listen.
I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I
know the answers to all these things.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
I was.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I'm not a golf guy.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
But if this guy has had this much success and
he's made enough money, Toria has the ability to not
only be a great girl dad dropping his kid off
at school and then getting on a jet and going
to Augusta and playing and coming back like I feel
like he's earned that ability to do that.

Speaker 12 (20:47):
Now, I'm not against the whole like going to play
practice rounds there, Like at the end of the day,
if you had the opportunity, you probably should. I think
a lot of players would, and I'm sure there's past
champions I've done that. It's kind of the way he
put it all about, like getting on the private jet.
And this goes back into like Rory's last you know,
his whole career, He's kind of had this big like
kind of you know, uh I hate Saint Snoody or

(21:09):
like high nose kind of yeah, kind of look about golf.
And so when you throw it on there, like just
the way he's like, yeah, I just dropped my daughter
off and then get on my G six fifty and
fly to Augusta for a day trip via a flyhouse
jack Justin Rose is the flyhouse guy. We love Justin Rose.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
We love Justin Rose.

Speaker 12 (21:28):
But yeah, that just kind of compounds. But I'm not
mad at the whole, like go play practice rounds, Like
if you have a chance to play Augusta, like do it.
But it just kind of adds in.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
You're kind of like, if you already have this feeling
about him, if you're seeing that, You're like, oh, that's
not fair.

Speaker 12 (21:45):
We got to get you guys watching the Ryder Cup,
because you, guys, he's a he's a European and you
will start hating Europeans if you get into the Ryder Cup.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Is America versus Europe or the.

Speaker 12 (21:56):
World Europe we play the Presidents Cup, which is the
rest of the world instead of Europe.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
He's nowhere near the goat conversation because he is like Chef.
I think Chef said six majors like Jack, Nicholas and
Tiger are in like the fourteen fifteen, sixteen range. Yeah,
so he's got a long, long way to get He's like,
don't get me wrong, He's like, he's like top ten
golfer of all time, but nowhere near the goat.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
This is European golfer of all time.

Speaker 12 (22:20):
Uh, Sir Nick Faldo would be it's either him one
of those too.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
He's the goat.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Somewhere, he's the goat somewhere in some land he is
the goat.

Speaker 10 (22:30):
But he doesn't under the Irish flag, which also bothers me.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
That is something I would piss me off. Yeah, I'm
a big I'm strong on the fact that if you're
from somewhere, you should be proud of where you're from.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Wait, what's the story on that, like Ireland rather than
just Ireland.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
I don't know now, hey listen, but I will say this,
there's a lot of different pockets in that area of like.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
London, Wales.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
This that like there's a everyone's kind of got a
little sliver of something where they're not claiming a specific flaw.
They're more claiming like a little area that happens to
be like a province of that spot.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Very weird. I don't know a whole lot about it
in ecosystem where it's like I'm not yeah, I'm not
claim claiming right, So non Iland.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
I think he's from Northern Island.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
About Vikings, we're talking about Yeah, mob stuff, Yeah, mob stuff.
Maybe a little earlier than that.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, okay, al capone, we're just talking about stuff, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Territories, Yeah, territories.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I got a question for the entire group. If someone
is in a goat category or a generational talent, or
has had an enormous amount of success on whatever field, pitch,
whatever we're talking about, and they have issues off the field,
do you think that should take away from their greatness
that they've achieved on the field. No, not some tweeting anybody.

(23:50):
The person that we brought up a lot if you
goat status is Tiger Woods. Tiger's obviously been in the
news quite a bit for like the Duys, like he's
kind of trending towards that great golfer guy. I think
a lot of people are getting to but does the
bad guy portion take away from the bad golfer? And
this goes for Brett Farb is another one, right, been
in the headlines a little bit in the past, great

(24:13):
football player kind of getting towards it. We're just I mean,
I'm just saying, right.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, yeah, okay, right.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
Let's leave Michael Vick out of this, all right.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
He's that's that's a great example though, because Michael Vick
had the thing that happened and then he went to
prison and then he got.

Speaker 7 (24:29):
Out of never had any of the fights, all right.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
But people are like, hey, we still love Michael Vick, right, Okay,
so he served his time.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
He's good. I think, like you still acknowledge the performance
like that is one of the greatest to ever do it.
But you're just you're probably just more inclined to say
who the better guy was, Like the better dude that
has it all encompassing. That's right there. They're in the
same tier. Who's it with Tiger Woods, Jack.

Speaker 12 (24:55):
Nicholas Nicholas, Arnold Palmer, there's a guy touch and Ty.

Speaker 10 (25:00):
What's unique with Tiger though, is generation is all this
stuff kind of happened, Like he achieved everything in golf
before he started going off the rails. And I feel
like that kind of plays into the fans psyche of
like it's two different Tigers. Tiger the golfer existed up
until two thousand and fifteen or whatever.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, and now Tiger.

Speaker 10 (25:20):
The man who's going through a whole bunch of stuff
exists now, so it's like easier to compartmentalize his.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
But you'd still look at it Tiger and be like, yeah,
goat status.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah. And before he fell off, like he was just
well on his way to being the greatest, he was
gonna be on touch on right.

Speaker 12 (25:32):
Up until two thousand and eight when he had his
like third spinal fusion surgery. Tiger Woods was the greatest golfer,
the greatest run ever. He's the only golfer to win
all four majors in a consecutive year span, so he
won all four in a row that will never be
done again. He has eighty two wins on the tour,
just under Nicholas, but he also plays in a time
where golf's a little more competitive. But yeah, I mean

(25:55):
he's the best ever.

Speaker 7 (25:56):
Dude.

Speaker 12 (25:56):
Then came back and did it in twenty nineteen with
the Masters off of like we're back surgeries and everyone
count them out, Like people were saying, don't even get
on the course anymore.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, the lore, Yes, it's a golf pod right now,
so we kind of feel like we're separating on the
field versus off the field. I love that. Is there
an example that you were thinking of?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
No, Tiger kind of was the example because he was
brought up a handful of times. And I know that
people love to hate on the individual as opposed to
the athlete. I feel like it's like hate as much
as you want on what they do in their own
personal life. That's like we would all kind of look
at me, like you probably shouldn't do that. But from
an athletics standpoint, what you've achieved, it's like it's hard
to take away those things.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, you know, and the individuals.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Conor McGregor is another one, a guy that was on
top of the world right until like what fourteen, and
then he's kind of like made a lot of money's
at a couple run ins.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
But you're like, it's I.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Think it's perfect for a Tiger and him is like
Connor who we saw in the octagon then and they're
living two different lives. What he's doing now, it's like
those are not the same comments easier compartment lives.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, it shows that like no matter what your reputation
plays in two people's like everybody's influence. Yeah. Yeah, at
the end of day, we're all just going to be
arguing at the at the table for guys that we
think are the best rs for the rest of the time.
You know what.

Speaker 10 (27:16):
Also just shows too, like the importance of winning, Like
winning actually does solve everything, even at it even to
a fault right where it's like we shouldn't really be
liking a lot of these guys, But it's like when
they when Tiger comes back and wins in twenty nineteen,
you're like, man, he did it. He proved everybody wrong,
you die all these things, But it's like he was
also the guy that cheated on his wife and like.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
All these things. He was on substances, but he win
comes back around. Yeah, it's crazy. It's like give make
all that money, like get a driver. Yeah, just have
a guy that takes you places. I don't know. Yeah, man,
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I did say a name, and it reminded me of
you did a little speech. We talked about the pod
last week, right, you did a little ted talk out
there first full little round A plus roll.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Boy got up there.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I was seeing the Twitter, the Instagram, all the things,
and I saw one specific individual that you were so
excited to meet, Ray Lewis.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I was it, man, it was awesome. I got to
introduce him. Yeah, yeah, I got the intro them. Just
give me a breakdown of the experience with Ray, all
of it, all of it. So First Form, you've been there, unbelievable, credible.
Ben Newman First Form hosted the event. Ben Newman put
it on for the unrequired. The whole theme is like unrequired,

(28:31):
the unrequired work that goes in everything. And there were
about five or six keynote speakers. It was myself, Coach Rule,
Coach Climbing from Kansas State who just retired Coach White,
the Indiana Fever, Kaitlin Clark's head coach salth Forsella as
you know, First Form, the CEO of First Form, and
then ray Lewis. Ben did a lot of speaking. They

(28:54):
had some like some panels where it was like me,
Ben and Sal. They had to bust some their whole
set up, Chef, wouldn't you agree, Like their whole setup
was unreal with the theatrics, the boards behind it, the
digital stuff going on. They had camera guys everywhere maneuvering
the whole time. They're getting you miked up. But we're
kind of sitting on that floor right there, and there's
a panel me Sal and Ben. Then there was another

(29:16):
panel whre was to sit down for Ben's podcast to burn,
where he's sitting with Coach Climbing. So there's a multitude
of things going on. They had they fed you lunch,
they had dinner for the VIPs, They took you on tours.
They had a lot of signed Memorabilion stuff there. It
was a cool experience. And then it was essentially a
crowd of like two hundred to two hundred and fifty
people yeah. Around there in that team room, that's a

(29:38):
first form. They were just filled in there. They were
sold out, and it's basically what I like gathered. It
was like all the people that were talking, like there's
the networks that they have going on to where people
were able to access of like high level thinkers, high
level achievers that are just like joining and coming to
listen everything talk to people. They had to set up
in the locker room where we had a name tag

(29:59):
we had or locker decked out. He'd come through for
like a fan meet and greet, and you got to
engage with everybody that came. It was awesome, dude, It
was a lot of fun. How long did you speak for?
Thirty minutes? Thirty minutes? So yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
At what point did the nerves kind of shake away?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
I wouldn't say the nerves. There were moments where I'm
like flowing and on, but then there are spots where
it's like, you know, I see people they'll have like
the iPad or they had like a board going on,
so they have like their PowerPoint things kind of going through.
I didn't have none of that, So I was like thinking,
like as people are going I was like shit, I
should have like sent them in something so at least
I would have what's on my notes app like sitting
in front of me. So I'm trying to like remember

(30:36):
everything that I had to remember the flow and everything else.
Like there was like one point towards the end where
I kind of stopped. I'm like, I kind of forget
where I was gonna go next year, and then figured
it out on the way through. But it was fun, man.
It was a cool experience, was real. And then they
sit down with Ben and Sal that was about thirty
minutes long, and they're you know, they're busting my balls
for all the things you would love them busting my

(30:56):
balls for not responding, like texting back. I had one
where I sat there and spoke and it was like
an eight minute answer and Ben was busting my balls
about It was fun, man. It was a great time.
We got some cool gifts too, like some some pet
sicicos were there, so some for the dads fan. As
a matter of fact, I gave my backpack. I have
the jersey one cat. I think, is it sucko Suko?

(31:19):
This isn't a dick joke, but Suko, he's a Nebraska fan.
But He made me this Nebraska jersey. We're on the
back name plate it says for the dads, and it
was number twenty five. I was like, why number twenty five.
He's like, oh, because you started the pod in twenty
twenty five. I was like, bro, that is badass. That's awesome.
Another dad came. His wife writes children's books, so he
gifted me a couple of children's books. It was cool, man.

(31:40):
It was a lot of fun. And introducing Ray was
was peak. Yeah. What was it behind the scenes with Ray?
How was that?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
I'm sure you had a moment the seat a little Ray.

Speaker 7 (31:49):
I I didn't.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Wish I would have that sucked. I did wish I
could have kind of got it because afterwards, like you're
doing the photos, you're doing all the things with people.
But I kind of just wanted to have some good
old into midtime. Yeah yeah, yeah, but I feel like
I got that out in my introduction because I'm sitting there.
Ben wanted me to introduce him, and I'm like, how
do I introduce Like Ray Lewis the way he's like
impacted my life, like as a linebacker, and so I
talked about all these different things and what he's done.

(32:13):
Like you guys know about the seventeen years and thirteen
Pro Bowls, ten all Prolls, all this stuff, and Ray's
about legacy. He's about he talks. You see him everywhere.
All the content he has, I've consumed. But the biggest
thing that stands out to me, and knowing what he
cares about the most, it's impact. And then I looked
directly at him and basically told him how much he
affected my life as a linebacker. Did you get teared up? No,

(32:33):
I was just juice. Did I get teared up?

Speaker 13 (32:36):
No?

Speaker 7 (32:36):
But when Ben gave you back that game ball?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah, Ben gifted me back a game ball that I
gave him. It was my very first game ball that
I gifted Ben when I was in Washington. It was
that you liked that game. I had gotten a game
ball from it, and I gifted it to Ben, like
I basically like I got he He was coming out
to watch a game like weeks later, and I figured
out I was like trying to get in his room.

(33:00):
I was like, hey, can you do you have a
key or you here? Like? Can I get in your
room before you go in there? And so then I
just called somebody to get in his room and set
this ball down on his bed to like gifted to
them for how much he's like helped me in my
career and how much he worked with me, like from
a performance psychology standpoint. So I gifted him that ball
and he was he showed he when he got the ball,
he's like in tears, He's crying. He's Ben's an emotional cat.

(33:22):
And he told me I forgot all about it, but
he told me back then, He's like, whenever you have
a family, your own, like, I'm going to gift you
this ball back. And that was kind of his moment
of like gifting me the ball back. Because when I'm
sitting there and I'm like they were talking, I want
to say, coach Roll and sal were about to go
on a tour. I was like, you guys go ahead,
Like I got a I gotta lock in and prepare
for going out here for the speech because it was
getting closer. And Ben walks by me and he's like,

(33:45):
you have no clue what you're about to hear, what
you're about to witness, And I like look at Jef
and I'm like, all right, man, But he like did
this whole presentation and essentially gave me the game ball back.

Speaker 7 (33:55):
It was.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
It was awesome, awesome, it was fun man. I had
a great time and pop back to Nashville same day. Yeah,
we took off here at seven in the morning and
then landed close to ten. God on a time consuming
consuming all of it. Your soul was fed.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, being in that building and being around salad, andy
and stuff like that. Just there's people you're when you
walk away from them, You're.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Like, how do I have them more in my life? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Newman to Newman is well and met Newman a handful
of times, but it just seems like, guys, You're like,
if I have them around me, I got.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
A good circle. Absolutely. Yeah, So that's awesome. I love that.
It was fun, bro, it was a good time. What
else we got wet, Yeah, we got we do have hold.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
We have a callback from Underscore crazy Man six four
three three five. I hope one day I find someone
who loves me as much as Taylor loves his pretzel gimmick. Quickly,
it's not a gimmick, the pretzel thing. Will you take
it and you put your finger in there, finger it,
and you finger it and you scoop the cheese. That's
a way of life. That's a life hacked, that's game Like,
you're welcome.

Speaker 10 (35:03):
We'll put the light of detector tests on you. We'll
see if it's a gimmick.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
No, I've done it, so yeah, you're right. We'll put
a lot of tech tests. I gotta have to prove
with that light of detector test, so I'll.

Speaker 7 (35:11):
Make sure you approved of this comment or that it's
not a gimmick.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I got a lot to prove in the light of
tector test. I know that we have one.

Speaker 11 (35:18):
Last callback that there were a lot of comments on
the Game of Thrones stuff with Taylor is rehashing Game
of Thrones and.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
He got to witness got to see the Red wedding.
I got to see the Red Wedding.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Where are you at right now? Okay, let me think
what season we in.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
We're in season four, We're half I'm in season four episodes.
I think I'm about to start episode seven. So right now,
Tyrian is on trial for killing Jeoffrey and Jeffrey's death.
The whole day, like when Jeffrey started choking during his wedding,
I'm smiling the whole time, like thank God, this little
bitch is finally getting his because he was clearly a monster,

(35:58):
like there was nothing good, there's no care like Jamie Lanister. Yeah, incest,
move that to the side. Incredible character arc that we
have with him right now. Yeah, like the big the
big blonde girl, she's sworn to bring him over to
uh back back home to King's Landing, and then the
whole time he's their their development, he saves her.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
You can just tell.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
They have a beautiful French that takes place. She's now
gone in a horse and she's taken. Who's the big
dick guy that was hanging out with Tyrian, he's like
his right hand man. Not Braun, No, no, no, not Bron
you're talking what's his nickname? Fuck dude, Yeah, because he's
he's Hedrick. Yeah, because they bring him into the whorehouse
and then they like didn't charge him and they're like

(36:38):
we never so they Braun and Tyrian shim dumb. That's
a few episodes ago. So Tyrian's sitting there now and
bro obviously you know the mom of of Jeoffrey and
a handful of people come up and they're just saying lies.
They're saying half truce because they're saying comments that he's made.
But during that it's like, man like Tyrian was looking

(37:00):
out for the best of King's landing and you guys
are just little bitches trying to get.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Him dead now for being a small guy.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, but when they called a break, Jamie Laniser goes
in and says, I'll take over Castilely Rock. Is that
what it is, Cassily Rock will I will give up
being a king's guard. I will be your next heir.
I'll do with all the things you want me to
do if you spare his life. Tyrian or Tyron is
like yes immediately, and he's gonna send him to the

(37:29):
wall essentially for the rest of his life. So they
call it the Next Witness and Bro, when it's Shay,
you just hear the heels. You know it's a woman walking.
I'm like, god damn I literally, oh god damn it.
I know, man, this is before we even see her.
And then she sits there and just fucking lies and

(37:50):
once again tells the half chews like I'm your lie.
He told me, like fuck me as if this is
your last night on this or like all those things.
It's like, yeah, that part, those little snippets are true. However, like,
well he looks from the eyes and says, I'm just
a whore, and it's like, bro, he really loved you,
I know, really fucking loved you.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
But the red wedding dude.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Hey, But also no, no, no, I will talk about.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I wanted to just ask the question, is Joffrey just
not one of the greatest villains? Yeah, he's in time
and by how much you hate him.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
And to go off of like what people do on
the field as like like from him from a cinema
standpoint to what he's done now, Like he was so
hated and he was so good at being a villain
that I don't know if it was he couldn't get
work or he was just like type cast.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
He had typecast so they didn't hire it.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
I think he just got his first acting job since
Game of Thrones last year.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Dude, because you want the acting is so good. He
does such an amazing job.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I psych he was like that, like he was so
great at hating him. I didn't want him, yes, that
I didn't want his character to have any more career success.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
I just think about doing those dialogues and from of
all those people and being as sinister as he was
just crazy fun. When Rob Stark obviously gets killed in
the Red Wedding and they find out via like this
this one of a raven and he's like, I want
to serve Rob Stark's head to who's the who's the

(39:19):
sonsa to Sonza, and I was thinking to myself, this
motherfucker just won't stop, like sons has clearly been in
the need of you. She says all the right things
like she you know she's in hell, and you still
want to fucking do this. And then I'm going a
little bit of on on uh, Geoffrey. But when little
Finger says that he had a bad investment to somebody's like,

(39:41):
when somebody's a bad investment to me, I get rid
of him. I find somebody that want to try new things.
And then that red hair chick that came from the
North goes down to King's Landing and it just shows
her essentially crucified on his bed with an arrow, and
he's just sitting there.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
You're like, this, little motherfucker, dude, what are your thoughts
on little foot? Little finger? Little finger?

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
So so where a little first off.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Is awesome, little Finger right now hated him when he
basically turned on on Ned Stark, But I love kind
of we were talking about on the bus is the
manipulation game, JP of, just like this dude really like
clearly not a good person, but his ability to manipulate
the system is like, Oh, this dude's really playing a

(40:27):
different level of chess. So right now where he's at
is at the same spot where Ned Stark's wife's sisters at.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Where they have that big hole, the veil.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
They're at the veil, and he is now set to
marry herries and become the king of that place. He
saves Sonza, kills that drunk fool that saved like got
Soanza out of there, which I think smart guys are drunk,
and brings her over. I don't know what's gonna happen
with that right now, little fingers kind of I'm kind
of messed with him, but I think he's gonna he's

(40:57):
He clearly does a love this woman at the veil,
clearly does. He seems like more of like an asexual cat,
Like he's not really interested in making love. He's more
interested he's interested in the throne. Same with the dude,
not the unsolely but he's like the chubbier guy, mister
clean looking guy. When him and Oberon, Oberon were sitting

(41:18):
there and they're like, he's like, uh, I know you
were into boys before you're you know, your genital's got
taken away from you. And he's like no, He's like women,
I would have been surprised.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
He's like neither.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
And he's like, well, you don't have desires, you have
better focus, Like what do you focus on me? He
just looks over at the throne and that's the end
of the scene, and it's like, bro, everybody wants this motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Meanwhile, Cleese's over there just taking over.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Things and takes tough down, takes this kingdom down, that
came down, gets to the third Kingdom where everybody's hung
up on the post and they've been all crucified.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
They've taken over.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
She's about to set sail to go across the Narrow Sea,
realizes the two she took over are now taken over
by worse people. She's like, oh, I legit have to
like reign this area right now. I have to be
like queen for a little bit to like settle this area.
And they sure there's no Tom foolery taking place with
the slaves, so all like it is as advertised, it

(42:08):
is as advertised now the Red wedding. Clearly, I was
like familiar with the Red wedding. You've brought it up
a bunch like people like will just talk about like
crazy shit happens. I was like red wedding, right, and
then you kind of like stit back and you kind
of like smile and laugh and be like yeah, but
you don't really know. We did the pink wedding. At
Surviving barstool, everyone's talking about the red wedding. It's called

(42:28):
the Pink Wedding. There's gonna be a lot of kills today,
so you understand like something bad is going to happen.
And when Rob Stark dips on old buddy to marry
the girl and they go back and just the way
the king that like hey he's at the coldest s yeah,
and he's like brings the girl up that Rob Stark Mary,

(42:50):
and he's like just says some real inappropriate shit in
front of everybody, but then he's like, let's go have
a great time. It's like, you know that's not okay.
But the weird thing that threw me off the most
was I know there's a red wedding. I know what
happens in the middle of these seasons based on what
everybody said. But there was Tyron his wedding taking place
in King's Landing and this other wedding taking place. So

(43:12):
I'm thinking maybe the red wedding is like people just
get murdered at both and I'm just not knowing, but
watching the wedding go down, Buddy's Rob Stark's uncle is
happy because he's got an attractive woman. Everything seems all good.
They were getting drunk and having a good time, and
then they.

Speaker 7 (43:30):
Was it.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
The mom ned.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Stark's wife walks over the doors and closes the doors
and the music changes, which I later find out is
the land Yeah, which is the landis stores like theme song?

Speaker 7 (43:43):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
So she turns around and you see the nervousness on
her face and I'm like, oh shit, stuff's about to
go down. So she walks over to another guy. I
think he's a Barathian, Bruce Bolton. Bruce Bolton walks in.
By the way, his son with Leon Gray Joys is nuts.
Kind of don't fuck with the on though, so I'm
kind of standing back on whatever when she pulls that

(44:07):
sleeve back and sees chainmail and slaps him. I still
don't know what's about to go down, and then it
just chaos ensus and the fact that Aria gets there
with the hound at the same time as ship's going down,
and the hounds like, we got to get out of
here because low Ki I mess with the hound like
bad guy, good character arc taking place right now.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah, he wins on the field, wins on the field,
wins on the field.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
He wins in the field. He's got one of the
hardest quotes of the entire show. I'm not gonna say
it on this because it's a it's a little too
tvm A, but he's got a hard ass quote when
there's when they're trying that when he's still a part
of the King's Guard and Jeoffrey the Aria. Her last
little part, the last thing I've seen with Ario was

(44:52):
she was going to sleep and she's saying all the
names of the men she's going to kill, and the
Hound's like, why what are you doing? She said, I
can't go to sleep until I say them all And
they basically have a little the baker back and forth
for a little bit and he's like, well, finish your list.
He goes it's almost done. I have one more. As
he rolls over and says the hound, I'm like, oh
my god, because a piece of me has Stockholm syndrome

(45:13):
four aria. It's like, yo, this guy's kind of helping
you out quite a bit. Got your sword back, your
little toothpick sword, You've gotten killed those guys moving off
from this, He's helping you get to wherever you need
to go, and yet you're still thinking to yourself, this
motherfucker has to die. But the last thing I saw
the whole thing, was Tyrian saying he wants to confess

(45:35):
not to murdering Jeffrey, but for being an imp all
the things, like he goes off on everybody's I wish
he had poisoned all of you. I wish I could
take pride in the fact that Jeffrey I killed Geoffrey,
but I didn't kill Jeoffrey. And the only way for
me to get anything done here is I want to
trial by battle or whatever it's called. And that's when
the episode ends. But you try to go to sleep

(45:57):
after that hard living. But That's where I'm at in
the show, right That's my breakdown. Shout out Barry underscore mcauchanner.
That's unbelievable, right, it's unreal. And I think I have
an idea of what goes down in the battle, but
you know, we don't have to talk about a show.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Did you have a massive wow surprise factor when the
Red Wedding Red Wedding took place?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
No, I think I think that's a product of just
years of it, knowing years of it, seeing it essentially
essentially unfolding in this process elimination, like two Bay weddings
are taking place right now, like this is probably when
it happens.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
How you people?

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, So to me, it's like I kind of knew
what was going to happen, but still like when Ned
Stark's wife, who I never liked in the show, and
she's just looking off for the distance and somebody just
walks up and stays, No.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
What are we doing? And that was the show too.
It's like there's a show where you start to realize
you can't get connected to characters because they don't give
a ship in this Like imagine just watching it in
real time and nobody there's no lore, there's no he
hadn't been talked about, no, nothing, and you're just in
the Game of Thrones and so many characters just got
god just got off.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, Like I know, like Rob Starks somebody I got.
I was like, Oh, this dude fights like with integrity,
mess with him a lot, Like he's a dude that
does the does the right thing for the right reasons.
He's not being king because he wants to. He has
to be king because he has two type of vibes.
And I loved him for it. I thought his mom
sucked just getting rid of Jamie Lanister like that and
like in hopes that he would send her two dollars away.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
But you still felt good because Brathian was like still
the guy, right, fanis Brathian, He's the guy with the witch,
No the son God? Who am I thinking of? The
one who ended up basically getting stabbed by the just
a hog out in war. He was the king from
first season Robert ar as first king and then uh
Rob or ned Stark is still alive. You're like, you

(47:53):
kind of hate that Brathyan goes down because you see
all the inner workings going on around him of how
they don't want to be the king. It's like, Okay,
at least he wrote on that note, like net Stark,
He's still like we still got there. Ain't no way
they're gonna let that happen, right, and then he gets
yopped in front of his daughter too. I think he's
just so crazy man.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
And that so this cat that is torturing theon Gray
Joy basically calls himself a week now. They just try
to say, bro, no, He's like, I'm not leaving, and
he like rewarded him with the bath and it's just
amazing guy. He's like a Jokers type of individual. Yes,
and then finding out he's a bastard as well. Just

(48:38):
crazy John Snow's just up there. You know there's a
massive war about to take place. I know that that
gift is about to happen any moment.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
You still got two seasons before that. That's what I'm saying, Like,
if you're if you're touching that, and now I'm like,
oh my god, bro Tyrone Lanister Oberon. Oberon's the guy
from He's like Braun no, no, no no, from dorn
Right and he he hates Tyron. This is the Mandalorian Yes, yes,

(49:08):
s yeah, yeah, fu with character.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
I'm mess with him. He's like a free thinking, free spirited,
like just does things completely different than anybody else, like
goes against the grain, and just the way they talk
about him as a warrior, like you. I saw a clip,
So this is not my thought, but the fact that
Tyrone Lanister is like, if you help me, I'll give

(49:33):
you your shot at the mountain. And I saw the
clip of Pedro Pascal and what he does to the mountain.
I can't wait for that. And I'm assuming I'm assuming
it's Tyrian Oberon says, I'll fight for you, and then
what a Tyrian says, Okay, we'll give him, We'll give
him the what's his name, Yeah, Tyland Lanister gives him

(49:55):
the mountain and they go at it. Am I correct
in saying that.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
You guys say you don't you don't want to see
facial expressions of anything. But because because where I'm at
in the show, say this, we'll say this, You're on
the tip of the iceberg.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
But hold on, I've seen that clip, so this is
not my This is just process of elimination. And I
and Tyrian just said I want to trial by battle,
like am I correct? And those are the two that
get lined up. Okay, you have to save assumption. Yeah, clean,
take clean, clean assumption.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Shut. Kevin's sent your foods man in form Energy for
the spring tour.

Speaker 14 (50:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Spring tour is complete.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
All teams treated us like five star recruits. We have
somehow manipulated the system and they're going on official visits.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, and schools.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Just showing us the best of the bes that they
have to.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Offer, and even better than official business because we're not
playing anymore. No, they don't like need us to commit
to him.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Right, there's no like awkward pressure of a coach like
kissing your ass. Yeah, it's literally just hey, you guys
want to show off our stuff. We'll let you show
it off. Let me show you all the things we happen.
You get to experience it right now. You get to
go into these practices not thinking yourself, do I want
to play for this coach. It's like, let me just
immerse myself in the culture. Yeah, and it is all

(51:21):
time and not only shout out Kevin's Natural Foods, but
shout out Kevin. Shout out Kevin at Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Kevin, Dude.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
Let's get a roundable applause for Kevin. Was a lot
of laws this show, and you know like the fact
that Notre Dame who has like they have that brand
that's just at the tops of the tops. And Kevin
went through and watched Texas Tech has watched the podcast,
told me it was twenty nine that blew me away
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Right, dared blew you away a little bit. It was
twenty nine. Yeah, you said it right.

Speaker 7 (51:50):
I don't. I mean.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Shout out.

Speaker 9 (51:57):
I will say, like, this is how close we got
with him. It was like by eight a m. He
was already we were already learning about his relationships. Yeah, yeah,
personal life.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
We finished the meetings, We finished the talk with the
old line.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
We walked in.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
There, he's breaking down his favorite music.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Girls. Yeah, girlfriend, wrestle, a WWE guy, all about it.

Speaker 7 (52:17):
We got really close with him in that room.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah he is. He's a guy that I want to
hang out with again. You want to be around him again.
That's that's all I got. Full stop on that. They're established.
Shout out Katie, who else do we need a shout out? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (52:31):
Katie was great that it was incredible.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
God. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (52:35):
So they did homework on y'all's Texas Tech visit and
basically said, how do we outd Texans in organ text
and orgon and yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
He even watched the He was like, uh, what did
he say? Because when he was busting, he was like, hey,
you're capped on your speech. I saw the organ. I
also saw the one that you gave at the Red
White Spring Game. But we can't do it, like we
can't make a situation to where it's like the Red
White Spring Game. Like I'm like, bro, you watched everything.
His homework, The hard out for Will's speech is hilarious.

(53:07):
A special teams coach came into what was it called
the googe or what was goog manjums in and he's like,
he went seven minutes, he didn't go five, dude. How
about going to class?

Speaker 7 (53:19):
Going to class?

Speaker 2 (53:20):
That was awesome. That class was awesome. Quentin Nelson pop
up on the screen too, right, doing a big Papa remake.
That's it, dude.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
And I know there was a moment there. Will and
I kind of got bullied. We kind of got mingled
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
That's okay.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
It was it was probably am I fair to say,
like it was probably more us than them.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
It kind of was, y'all because they are these three
girls who have no idea what y'all do for a profession,
and they asked, what do y'all do? We have a
podcast and they asked what's it about? And your first
word instead of saying we're x NFL players.

Speaker 7 (53:52):
Was community and that was that was it.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
And so the girls were like, we were I was.
I mean, I'll speak for myself. I was nerves.

Speaker 15 (54:00):
It was tone.

Speaker 7 (54:01):
It was tone. It was the tone in which the
question was a girls canna be scary too? Girls especially
they were.

Speaker 6 (54:06):
It was a group of three and it almost felt
like you're back in middle school and it's like the
cool girls ask you why are you wearing those tennis shoes?

Speaker 15 (54:12):
You're like, and it's a classroom full of like who
even knows because obviously people want to take pictures afterwards,
but you have no clue if anybody in there is
even close to familiar with bust with the boys.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
And the teachers like, hey, will you guys stand up
and say a few words, and we're like, if you
want to, yeah, if you want to. It would be
nice if someone classed for a photo before. So it's okay.
They got to know who we are, and it's not
like an engaging classroom like everybody's just quiet sitting there,
the entire class, and dude, like it's us being like, hell, yeah,
we just did a present.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
I hope there's one to three of those kids in
that class that watch this episode, so we can just
tell them the teacher you have is incredible.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
You gotta cherish him.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
You gotta cherish him, because when you walk away from
that being thirty four, that's probably the uncomfortable part too,
Like these kids are eighteen and twenty one and we're
sitting there.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Like and when he's talking about Rock Up by Baby
or was it Rock Up by Baby the music remixes,
he's talking about how much it matters for him because
he's his dad. He's like, I know nobody in here.
He kind of feels like he's talking to himself. But
I'm sitting there. I'm like, no, he's giving him some games.

Speaker 7 (55:10):
Just don't know that game.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Yeah, so he's awesome. The mustard thing was incredible. Who
is the Sharon? Is that the girl's name?

Speaker 10 (55:20):
Sharon is the girl who proposed the question? Is mayonnaise
an instrument?

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Sharon? All that?

Speaker 10 (55:28):
Yeah, her performance was economic impact of it, what it
means for the future, how important it was to the
past and how mayonnaise is the key to a great president.

Speaker 9 (55:38):
And that class did not get the Poppet deserve.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
But I don't think.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
I think JP just keep us me that he just
started coming and I was like, I might as well
keep going. It was on the studies of like this
question was asked, like can mayonnaise be a right?

Speaker 10 (55:56):
But economic impact was real. She gave three impact the
Hellman's mayonnaise thing.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Every student that goes up there giving a presentation of
their own, they can pick whatever they want over like
a current event happening music, Yeah, yeah, a lot of Kanye.

Speaker 9 (56:12):
Yeah no, but she hits the mayonnaise and it is
an instrument. And then the teacher again did not get
the Pope deserved. He's like, I've never used mayonnaise, but
I've used mustard. Yeah, and it just plays this video
of him using mustard as an instrument to not like us.

Speaker 7 (56:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah, Yeah, it was awesome. No one cracked a smile.
We were laughing. We're like smiling in the back. But yeah,
you just feel the vibe of the room and it's like,
oh man, yeah, and if you were to.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Clap or give him some juice, I feel like it
would have come off as like class clowness.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah. Yeah, we were.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Just like, I guess I'm just gonna be a sheep
right now. I'm enjoying this, but I'm gonna sit back
and just let it kind of come to me. Yeah,
because dude, that mustar wouldn't kind of hard so nice.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
That breaks my heart.

Speaker 11 (56:51):
That guy deserves a standing out for that.

Speaker 7 (56:53):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
keV was like, we'll be in here for like twenty
minutes whatever.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
We're for the whole class, the entire it supposed to
be our group, like our entire shop. We would love
being in this guy's class and doing the presentations. Yes,
he didn't injuice the whole time.

Speaker 8 (57:06):
Yeah, it was an hour class and they said we're
only probably gonna be here thirty minutes. He goes, we
will probably go thirty minutes anyways, don't worry.

Speaker 7 (57:13):
He just cut his class short.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
He was awesome, dude.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Yeah, V ahead of marching band, Notre Dame. Yeah, he's
like he's involved, he's very into.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
He's a big ball guy.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, what school was this in?

Speaker 11 (57:29):
Like communications the goog by the goog by, the goog
The games got short for gigging highs by the goog
they called like music tech.

Speaker 7 (57:38):
Is that what it's called?

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, something like that.

Speaker 7 (57:41):
It might have been music tech, guys, let's not get
to it's by the.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Duke music music tech by the good.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
We had a guy come up to me and you
had an old friend, dude, we had two one kid.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
One kid care to me?

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Is like, I have to show you this photos from
when I was like a freshman in college, when he
was like a little kid. He's now like a freshman
or he's at the Universe on the Squad's he's.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
On the squad.

Speaker 7 (58:05):
He was a player.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Built phy.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Yeah, we read we redid the photo. That was awesome.
But then we start walking and some older guy walks
up to me and he's like, hey, have you seen
he like Raydon was like have you seen David so
and So. I had no idea what the name was.
And I'm like, no, I haven't spoke to him minute,
and like vibes are high.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
He goes not doing very well right now, you should
reach out. He's not doing like oh yeah, all right,
yeah for sure do that. We got a three steps
where I'm like he's like and we're like shaking his hands,
thanking him for allowing us to be here and stuff
like that, and that's state of the question. He's like, hey, yeah,
He's like, oh yeah, he's in bad health. You should
reach out to him. So he walks off.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah, like, oh, there's a little angel. They just came
by to be like, make sure you reach out to
the ones he left.

Speaker 6 (58:48):
But back to the guy who showed you the photo
that he took when he was a young kid with
you at Michigan, it almost felt like we wanted to
recreate that photo.

Speaker 9 (58:57):
Boy, he want want you to heat he created start
with that.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
To where like we need to do as much as pon.
Taylor's like, you know, they both have their like awkward
like smiles going on. We're like, hey, let's recreate this photo.
You guys get together.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Yeah, Like the conversation is kind of over here. I
appreciate you showing me that, and you guys are like,
let's do more. But how sick is that dude? That
is awesome? That's his old photo, Taylor. He's got his
baby face. He's a freshman. This dude is like he's small.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I got like the young.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Boy after like a scrimmage practice. Yeah, like that just
like you massive.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Because he came up and he's like, my dad said
I had to show and him like I'm thinking in
my head, I'm like, I'm sure there's a part of
you that thinks this is sick too, Like you're seeing
Taylor again after all these years, right, Like, let's we
got to recreate the photo. You got to show your dad.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
That's the thing where he in the moment didn't want
to do that. But he's now sitting here and probably
in that same class right now and being like, I'm
happy I did that today.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he sits back.

Speaker 13 (59:51):
Is that there?

Speaker 7 (59:51):
It is?

Speaker 1 (59:52):
I wish it was assumed ind more, not there?

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
I wish we had the photo to go back it back.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
Do you have a jack No, I just have that
original one.

Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
I mean the recreation O G Well, because we took
it on his phone and then I got the air drop.
I thought he was gonnair drop me a bunch of them,
and he sent me one singular photo and I guarantee
he probably deleted most of them afterwards.

Speaker 11 (01:00:17):
The time for not being a golf podcast. Pretty golf
coded picture here with the long sleeve quarters in it.
Thank you and a golf cart in the background, golf
in the back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Room, and that's a collar shirt you see underneath the cues.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Yeah, well dude at Notre Dame, Like, did you guys
know when we were at Note name, do you just
feel like I can't curse on him here?

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Yeah? I said that to keV.

Speaker 8 (01:00:38):
He's like, no, you don't, don't think like that. I
felt that way the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
I felt like an F bomb would be like too far,
Like you know, Father would come up to him, like,
we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Do that at first, and then might just comes up
to you and throws holy water on you. Right things
a little bit, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
And also speaking of father, like we're in the locker room,
we're about to go out, and he's like taking knee here.
I'm thinking, all right, we're gonna we're method playing right now,
method acting. And then a father comes out to do
the thing with us, do the prayer that was sick.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
And then when they're playing the the hype video on
the big screen and Don's like, hey, whenever we hit
the whenever we hit the goal line, we go. I'm like,
all right, I'm like, whenever we hit this line right here,
we gotta go. And I'm thinking, I guess we just
gotta fully embrace. So we just bought in running out
like we're running out in front of a crowd. Yeah, clump,
and I got two one on ones. Yeah, then we

(01:01:27):
got to be carried off the field. I'm making the
boys chant.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Willie, how massive was that that we caught? So fun
because at the end of the at the end of practice,
coach goes, hey, you guys catch a punt like, we're
gonna one for one tailor you catch a punt, defense
is gonna take you off the field like Rudy. Same
thing for will with the offense. That first one he
kicked that Aussie. What a leg on the kid too.
By the way, Jasper kicks that ball. I think it
was on like the opposite forty five kids on the

(01:01:53):
opposite forty five And I start running and I look
over and see coach and he's like, not that one,
not that one and starts yelling at the game. I
watched for a land bounces on the five and go
to It was an incredible punt. He hit the corner perfectly, everything.
The second one track the motherfucker down, No problem, dude,
that was nice pressure.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Yeah, then you caught it. I'm like, Ship, I have
to catch this thing. And then we both caught him.
I'm looking over at the offense.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
Who's last. Yeah, the reaction, the team's all just stood there, like, Ship, we.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Got to pick these dudes up. Looking around the offense,
who's gonna pick me up? I look at the offensive line.
The offensive line is like we got you. You know
the way will jumped on that guy, guy who has
back issues to jump on another man like that is
crazy crazy, That was crazy. It is And I'm like,
I need Willie, WILLI and my guys guys come on, like,

(01:02:48):
do the chance a few like two guys like it
was so awkward, like when you first caught it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Do we want to talk about Marcus free and cheating
and shuffle board?

Speaker 8 (01:03:02):
This is a good time before we do that to
plug the vlog which is out yesterday as you're listening
to today Bog. Yeah, it's out, it's out right now,
it's out. There's a lot more detail to some of
these stories. It was an incredible time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
It was an incredible time. They truly they bed. They
just got to fix the shuffle board. Now. I did
have a I did kind of mess it up. A
little bit because I sualt I said it a.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Little you did, but you could say you did something
wrong there. You're the only person that showed up between
the two of us, like you're the only one that
got played.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Here's my thing. You watch the vlog, You're gonna see
in the vlog that you know we can't make you
can't score on the shuffle board, like you just can't,
no matter how soft, no matter how hard, it doesn't matter.
It's sliding off, it's leaning one side. And because I
like us in shuffle board, always have, always will forever.
But the fact that we're playing the five and it's
the most competitive game because nobody could score is preposterous. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
And it's a game too that like goes back to
the foundation of our ship. When we first started, it
was shuffle board every single day for a while. So
the fact that we didn't have a big opportunity against.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Marcus Freeman and that was night one, so we're trying
to feel like, can we bust his balls in his house?
Like this shuffle board is bullshit? Yeah? Yeah, and he
got competitive too, got competitive.

Speaker 8 (01:04:16):
Yeah, there's some good just locked in just watching the
whole thing, right, awesome talking a little ship too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
It was fun. He was tell you talked a little
shiit with CJ Carr.

Speaker 7 (01:04:25):
CJ cars got something everything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Yeah that pasces me off man got you both out
and knock out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
I got enough bodies to be happy with that though,
because who was Who's the guy that got me out first?

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
You remember his name? Oh you're uh Snead. I don't
know if it was the linebacker.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Yeah, he had the change because we when we first started,
He's like, you go first, I can't really shoot. We
were around once maybe twice. On the third time gets
me up by draining a three and I'm like, oh, okay,
so you can shoot. He like starts laughing and giggling.
So that next time got his ass. Got a couple
more of them too.

Speaker 7 (01:05:00):
Did Ryan almost get the entire team out?

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Bro At one point it was me, Will, Ryan and
like three others. It was like half Bust and half
Notre Dame guys were like, oh, we have a legit
shot here, we take down this universe and then I
get sniped, Will get sniped and then it's like Nolan
and two Notre Dame guys but him.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Now we're done here Nolan can play better than the
way he performed. It was frustrating me. I'm like, bro,
you got a stroke.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Run that back real quick. That's a heavy bump out
play I had there, not the stroke.

Speaker 7 (01:05:27):
Impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Hit that back just a second. This cat tried to
get me out. He was about to get me out,
and I hit through the net, hit his ball. Yes, dude,
that was might be right here. Yeah, this is the
cat that got me. Look at this he's in that's
Eddy yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
And talking ship to I like Snead too. That's number three.
That's a linebacker like he's on a hundred. The entire
practice photos. Jack Landing, fun trip, great trip, love some
Notre Dame. Got me a jersey, got me a scholarship offer.

(01:06:05):
That's huge, huge bro.

Speaker 7 (01:06:07):
And they didn't give Taylor one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Did not give Taylor one. We're bringing that up. It
was it was like, at the end of the day,
it was a pity offer.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
No, it wasn't, dude, and heyst trust me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
I enjoyed No matter what. I'm gonna church tell you
one thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
I feel a certain way right now, but it shouldn't
take away from you at all that you finally got
your offer for Notre Dame. I'm gonna feel my way,
and you shouldn't feel any type of way about my disappointment,
my upset, any of that. You got an offer, And
here's the thing that's probably uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
I got offered just as a fullback, Like Notre Dame
just did me wrong in the recruiting process. So that's
them like making it right. Yeah, I can say pity,
but that's them trying to make right because I was
a Notre Dame sicico growing up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
I never got offered by Notre Dame, never got off.

Speaker 7 (01:06:51):
You hated Notre Dame though, No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I didn't dislike Notre Dame in high school. I didn't
know much about football at all. In high school, I
was just like playing football, and I was like, I
want to go to the school that I believe is
the coolest. I end up going to Michigan, which ended
up turning into I don't like Notre Dame, gotcha. But
at the time when I'm seventeen years old, yeah, I don't.
I have no alliance like of whole house state, like,
oh this is fucking sick ohouse statem. I'm like, I
wouldn't go there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Like clump. How how much are you talking to the
team and telling him how much I used to love
Notre Dame.

Speaker 7 (01:07:18):
So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:07:18):
keV probably watched content to knowing that you don't really
like Notre Dame right now and that you talk highly
that you wanted to go to Notre Dame. Is yeah, yeah,
because I was like obviously planned early from them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Yeah, but I did.

Speaker 8 (01:07:30):
I talked to They asked me that you if you
wanted to go to Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
I said, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
GM's name is Mike Martin correct, that was his name,
I believe, so, yes, Okay, he was awesome. That was
one of the more underrated parts of this entire thing,
was sitting there watching him and him whether he really
cared about our opinion or not to bring up the
clips and be like, tell me what you think about
this guy, and just like talking ball and knowing in
the back of your head like everyone's kind of watching,
you're kind of breaking down a little things like let

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me get in my bag a little bit about the
things I know and I've spent so many years doing
It was just awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Who's a dog? Who's the players breaking down? I don't
remember on disappointed. I know he was a dog. You
could just see a pro in motion operating because what
he was a sophomore last year I think was the.

Speaker 7 (01:08:12):
First year he was impressed.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
He was extremely impressive to watch number. I can't remember
that sixty played right guard.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
He was the right guard. I think he was on defense.
And they're putting him at tackle this year.

Speaker 8 (01:08:26):
Is that what I guard last year? He's playing right
tackle this year. But he's a monster, dude, this Kingston Cat.
This linebacker that's coming off he got injured. Dowars a
c l like he his range, his ability, his athleticism
to be on the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
He can play off the ball and no, no, no,
not him. It's more than that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
But this Kingston Cat cover blitz off the ball everything,
and he seems yeah, and he seems smart as ship
as well, and he plays violent as fuck. He's going
to be a dude this year. That's cool for me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Is like obviously being around football, you're for your entire
adult life, you're learning things all the time. But listening
to you, that first one when he's off the ball
and there's the pollar and he smacks that fucking Poller.

Speaker 7 (01:09:10):
I'm like, oh, Gerby Gurby, uh Lambert's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, stud, dude. This kid's got the length,
he's got the attitude, he's got the he's got the feet.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Stud.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
But when you're talking about this Kingston kid, how he
kind of loose, he like bows in and then hits
the guy, He's like if he's a little bit sharper,
that's a that's a hit and a TfL Like watching that,
hearing that and learning that, I'm like, it's just amazing
how much like how many layers of football to where
you learn something new, even at thirty four, playing the
game for as long.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
As Yeah, man, it is nuts. The detail that goes
into all is because he like lights that puller up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Lights his ass up to a point where like, if
you have if I had a counter in or if
I'm a guard I have to pull. I'm like, I'm
really dreading if this play comes up and he's the
backside linebacker that I'm pulling for. Yeah, I'm dreading the
idea of having to go head to head with this
guy on a pole. Yeah, because he smacks motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
And he just put old buddy in the hole and
then when you're coaching that cat, it's like there's so
much more like of that greatness that you can chase
just by taking this angle. Like you'll not only do this,
but you're gonna make the play in the backfield right
because that's a kid. It's like you're gonna play for
a long time, Like he's gonna get drafted high. Hey's calm.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
The cool thing about the class we went to is
the teacher was like, hey, we got cameras in here,
we got people, and if you don't want to do yours,
you can do a different class. Every kid stood up
and Kingston, the linebacker that we watched on film, he
got up to and gave his his whole you know, speed,
thank you, and dude, it's just awesome. He's just a
kid that quiet, humble, a couple of things you could

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have pronounced better.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
And an absolute killer killer. He's gonna take a soul
this year. JP is the economy part in the vlog. No, no, no,
it's not damn this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
That I know he did where he's at. I know
he's gonna hate that. I know because it's truly it's
it's just a nervous fuck up. Yeah, But if he
were to see that his opinion about us would be
changed for life.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Yeah, fair, fair, it's probably best. It's probably best. But
as long as he'll know end time like this is
great ball busting.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
You might need to get that clip of him trying
to pronounce it and then when he says that next
to you and just go, hey, by the way, it's
economy like just that and send it to him the
way to get to him personally. But he didn't make it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
But dude, bro, this is funny. Like you don't know
this right now, but that is hilarious. I was like,
oh man, what happened? He said, I got some stage. Bro,
what happens to the best of us? Best of us?

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Dude, everyone gets a little nervous.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Huh.

Speaker 11 (01:11:31):
How did he pronounce it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
He went a bunch of different ways with it. Every
way you could think about me, think.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
About me reading an ad that's kind of where they are,
and you know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
It's a word that Taylor knows. Just a moment in
your brain is happening and you just can't put it
together right right.

Speaker 11 (01:11:45):
Like some ego nami kind Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
He threw a couple of extra season there a couple
of times he was just and it was truely like
three seconds of him just like fumbling over it and
didn't find it, but like had the wherewithal to be like,
I'm just gonna move on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
From the Yeah, I'm gonna get out like a ship.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Well, we're kind of sitting in the back, kind of
snickering a little bit a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Yeah, it was like, oh, hey, that students got their
phone out. You should brace your hand and tell on them.
Excuse me, the phones in class? Are they allowed? I don't,
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:12:18):
I just.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
But once again, dude, it's like that would have been
awesome because I actually that teacher would enjoy that. But
then we would have came off as class clowns.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Yes, and it's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Like, what, I've got the polo on the quarters up,
like I'm trying to be as notre dame as I
can be.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Yeah, you know, yeah, town, who's gonna say it? Should
we get into to some teer talk. We got some
teer We shut out the spring tour by Form and
Kevin's Central Foods. We didn't talk enough about Form.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
If you if you think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
We had late night, late night at Freeman's house, got
up at five thirty in the morning, got picked up
at five forty.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Five freezing gold.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Took the coldest car right of our entire life, full
and shorts. Yeah we're we're dog tired. Go do a
nice dinner. That was incredible, but still dog tire. Have
to get up earlier the next day. If it wasn't
for form energy, I don't know if we were in
a bro figure out those forty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Hours and we got to leave some behind for the boys.
Got hooked the boys up. They thank god. The Miami
one wasn't the way the Notre Dame one was as
far as structure, as far as like the time we
got to run to everything. Yeah, we gotta do a
full workout. Yeah, we're fucking shaking. We got to count
the whole time. That was so underrated. Bro, just counting
like yeah, one, two, three, three, two one in us

(01:13:30):
saying the number. I know they was on.

Speaker 7 (01:13:34):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
We got the full experience.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
It was fun, But I'd like to say one thing,
go ahead, they set us up for failure. If you
watch the VOG you're going to see the line, the
standard line and has bustled with the boys were below
the line. Yeah, they said the workout started at six. Correct,
they picked us up at five forty five?

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Is not Dame or Michigan.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Notre Dame, not Dame? What did I say? Did I
say Michigan?

Speaker 5 (01:13:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
I was Notre Dame. Five forty five pickup. We get
picked up in five. We drive there. They tell us
we're below the standard because if you're not fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Early, you're late. Correct. But they said the schedule.

Speaker 7 (01:14:09):
Yeah, so they were there to pick us up fifteen
minutes early.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Were they really?

Speaker 7 (01:14:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Oh yeah, obviously keV was dialed. keV was dial.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Ken did not miss says in Nashville a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
We got to bring him, he's gotta got him on
an episode. We got to get him on the bus.

Speaker 9 (01:14:30):
You gotta have try to get him to come to Miami. Yeah,
get on the plane with this legitimately, just want to come.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
That would be so funny. Oh you're going to Miami. Okay,
we gotta stay we gotta stay unbiased.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Yeah, yeah, stay biased. But I think every single one
we got more biased. Yeah, everyone was the best one.
We love every team. Yeah, and we're so easily bought
to any school out there watching anything. If you want
to get in our like every school had a set
up for the boys.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Yeah, you want to get our good gracious, give us
a bag of clothes and jersey.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Every school gave time. Texas Tech didn't give us a jersey.
Notre Dame in Miami gave us a jersey. No one's
giving us a helmet yet.

Speaker 7 (01:15:14):
We did show the new helmet at Texas Tech, though.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
That is sick and we could probably hit up Texas
Tech now and be like, hey we can get a jersey. Oh,
not of Dame in Miami both give the next day.

Speaker 7 (01:15:23):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Joey McGuire d m me three days ago about this
kid that right tackle and enjoy being like his best
attribute is being an asshole. And it was just him
answering the question calling himself an asshole, laughing. He's like, I
think you like this, Like that's that's Joey McGuire and
a nutshell.

Speaker 7 (01:15:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Tear talks all right, before we get back to before
we get into the Ted Talk, just Miami Hurricane fans,
anybody come Tear talk? What did I say? Ted Talk?
You crushed it this weekend? This weekend though, ye all
know how that brain acts up every now and then
All the Miami content will be coming out next week,
so we'll be diving more into our visit there, our

(01:16:02):
conversations there, everything else. So we're trying to structure to
where we hit. Obviously we hit Texas Tech. That was
all last week. We did Notre Dame in Miami both
this past week, all Notre Dame this week. Next week
will be all Miami Hurricanes because that was an unbelievable
That was an unbelievable visit. I did see a lot
of Miami Hurricane fans. They were unhappy that they let
me on that premise. Unhappy you were getting crushed. Rushed, bro.

Speaker 8 (01:16:26):
I'm talking to every Miami Hurricanes fan account, not every.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
No, no, no, there's one that let me know like, hey,
don't worry about all this, like we love you'll do you.

Speaker 8 (01:16:35):
One one defended you and said, of course he's on TV.
He has to have like an opposite take every now
and then. And then the guy replied to him with
like three different reasons on why that's not true, and
that was your real take.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Yeah, they were, they were.

Speaker 8 (01:16:47):
They were not happy because you were throwing up at you.
That's the I know, just dropping all the photos and
I love the visit. I love being there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Also, I just saw the First Form thing bro the
amount of stuff that we had at the end of
the week, Like when I got back, because I had
a backpack full of stuff from First Form, but sitting
there with the bags of First Form Notre Dame Miami,
we got stuff from Texas Tag, like all the gear
that we've got, which is like the last thing that
we I feel like now I'm like, I don't need
all of this stuff. Now you gotta find a place
for it. But it fires me up because now you

(01:17:18):
can do some spring cleaning. You can throw some stuff out,
replace it with some gear now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
But when you get new stuff, you're like, I don't
want to throw this out. But like in my brain,
I'm like, what am I gonna wear from the Notre
Dame stuff? Am I gonna wear the quarters at It's like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
No, you'll find not You'll you'll find times. I'll find times,
I'll find times I'll find something. I can't wait the
rock the Miami gar at some point this year.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Because the shit goes hardy Texas Tag, Notre Dame is
it is and.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
The bags are dope. This is the whole setup is nice.
A lot of Duffel bags.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
A lot of Duffel backs, a lot of double backs.
My yeah, I have officially hit the point of spring
where I'm like, I feel overwhelmed because I have so
many double bags, I have so many extra clothes. My
closet's a little way more cluttered. I'm like, there's really
five it's in here?

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Where?

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Why do I have all this stuff? And it's time
for a good perch? Yeah, a good perche take place.
Might do a bus with the boys?

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Uh oh low of states. Hey, that actually would be
a lot of fun. Should we do a garage sale
one day?

Speaker 8 (01:18:13):
Yeah, dude clumb I'm in, yeah, all right, I'm in
get it done.

Speaker 7 (01:18:20):
Hey we'll have one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:18:21):
Just stay tuned on the socials.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
You and to dive into some tear talk. I would
conversations the topics that happened over the last week we've
talked about. Uh, we talked about a lot of off
field issues and I nothing's like jogging, nothing's like pot
sticking out to me on things. Did anything happened last
week that we should be talking about because we were
on the we were on the move for like forty
eight hours, so you kind of miss why yeah, bad wife.

(01:18:46):
On the plane, you kind of can't see what people
are talking about, right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
And then once you get off the plane is not
a whole lot of time because one to the next
thing and the next thing. So I don't think anything
in our world really took place.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Right, somebody, I do have a tear talk here, and
this could help us out. I gotta put a tweet
out like talking about tear talk and this one comes
from each shit two oh nine. Why haven't you said
shit about Rabel yet? Pussy? What about Rabel? I don't
even know. I think something might have happened. Can we do?
We want to look it up or we just want
to we'll look into it. I did see that there's

(01:19:19):
some headlines of Braves and Russini, some photos that got leaked.
They're coming out apparently a private investigator, like somebody's coming
after one of them. Could be Braves, yeah, because I
saw one where it was like an unidentified female. But
then everybody, obviously the internet's been having a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
How about this, how about this? Bust with the boys.
Will launch an internal investigation on Rabel and Rassini and
whatever's going on there, and we'll report.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Back we'll look into it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
We'll look into it, but as of right now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
No comment.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
As of right now, no comment. Okay about that, I
think so official statement. Does anybody want to have any
other statement other than the statement.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
We just made. I think that's good.

Speaker 8 (01:19:58):
No further comments after this, because again, if you guys
stay quiet, you'll be complicit.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Silence is violence. You're gonna be Hey, this is what
you believe in. If you don't say.

Speaker 7 (01:20:08):
I pulled up his Wikipedia page. Everything looks the same.

Speaker 11 (01:20:10):
He's the head coach of the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 7 (01:20:14):
I don't know. All I know is you don't see
Robert Sala in the headlines.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Bro, I haven't seen anybody in the headlines because of
the WiFi and the movement of what took place last week.
And I was ribbing packs last night.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
So when I was doing when we were doing the
kind of the busting panel and it was me sal
and Newman, We're talking about the start of busting with
the boys and everything else. I get to the story
of we do our first pot with Delaney, Ivy almost
kills him. The next day, it's up in the team meeting,
Variable's talking about the ship to get you beat destructions
off the field, and I just hold for a moment.

(01:20:47):
I'm like, probably not the best time to be talking
about this example. Everybody were you know, we're all like laughing,
busting balls and.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Stuff like that, but can't have fun, can't have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
But I'm talking to I'm like, yeah, you know what
bust what the boys happened?

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
But right now it's no comment, no comment, no coment
will take place right now as of right now. We
could later, yeah, we reserve the right to make a
comment at any point.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously, yes, yes, it hits us
in more of a personal sphere because we know all
the parties involved, so it's like you just it's like, man,
it's it's like it's none of our business. And also
everybody's blowing up about it. Everybody else is going to
have all this and that the other, and it's like
you just want the fucking best for everybody. And people

(01:21:35):
are like, well, what does that mean you think that
you condone this. It's like, no, I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying, like, bro, there's no I don't want
to have an opinion on it. There's so many layers.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
That's the beauty of our podcast because the two direct
people we have relationships with both, and then the people
outside of them too that are closer than we have
relationships with them as well. Yeah, and so you said
it best It's like you want whatever the situation is.
Hopefully it's best case on all fronts. Yeah, because at
the end of the day, like we like all of them,
we care about all Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
And we know how it looks. We get it, We
get all of that ship, and it's just like this
is one We're like, yeah, I'm just not gonna have
We'll look into it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
We're gonna do internal investigation. We made a comment if
we said we make no comments, that's our comments, that's
our comm rooting for everybody and statement.

Speaker 11 (01:22:19):
If people are upset by this, they can sue y'all
they can.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Yeah, we talked about bringing the lock.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
You want to sue us, Sherman, If you want to
sue us, sue Sherman Young and we will.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
We'll go to bat for you.

Speaker 8 (01:22:34):
Any any angry comments, actually, just tweet a Sherm any
angry comments for this.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Any angry comments.

Speaker 8 (01:22:43):
Sher will handle all all comments on this moving forward.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Yes, there we go. That's a good Sherman Young will
handle all comments on this topic moving forward.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
I think any negative comic, any like negative suggestion should
go to sher Stu on a score two.

Speaker 11 (01:22:58):
And then I'll just address it from there and any
SUP filings anything like that at Underscore too.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
I would honestly love it if you change your bio
to have something in there be like I play back,
can play about bus with the boys comment here?

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Okay that that would probably help us kindly customer service. Hey,
and we talk about bringing the locker room to life
with their content, Like if we were in the locker
room right now, it'd just be put your head down
on work, don't ask too many questions.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Yeah, like you don't do thet you get out, and
then everybone would have an opinion. Like that's how it works, right,
gossip Girls. But we're not going to gossip Girl on
this show. No piloton, no piloton now, no pilot, no comment, teartalk,
no comment.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
What else we got on the tears talk? I hope
I handled that one for you.

Speaker 7 (01:23:45):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (01:23:46):
Stay nine?

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
You guys don't talk about very bunch of postss like
we did.

Speaker 11 (01:23:52):
Uh we did do Chase Daniels tear talk earlier in
this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
That was a tear talk got you, Zach Butler tagged
us both and said, once Taylor finished his Game of Thrones,
you guys need to do a special episode recapping your
favorite moments. Would be so dope hashtag tear talk.

Speaker 8 (01:24:08):
Rumors of a potential everyone dresses up boom.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Where we recap it. And I think it'd be fun
if you dressed up like we're involved with castles and
comments like that. Has anybody done that that you embodied?
Can we go LARPing?

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Yeah? Would you guys be down to I know you'd
be down to go lark?

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Can we go LARPing? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:24:33):
I mean I'm in I think that's also an original idea.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Dungeons and dragon, dungeons and dragons and we can get
It's really good.

Speaker 7 (01:24:44):
What we need to do. I'm caught up now, I'm
caught up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Play guiton as a group. We Yeah, thats similar.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
I'm in on that, all right, all right, all right,
but yeah, I'm down to do that to recap our
favorite parts of the show.

Speaker 7 (01:24:56):
Also, next Monday is four twenty. Do with that as
you will next Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Yeah, they tell you, Yeah, on Monday, a week from
the day, my wife and I will be married for
ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
Didn't they get in the league? Made it with my wife. Dude,
let's wink.

Speaker 7 (01:25:14):
Which one matters more? Dude?

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Marriage for sure?

Speaker 7 (01:25:18):
Right? I said it, right?

Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Okay, hell yeah, hell yeah, ten years. I think it's funny.
I think it's funny being an answered that stupid question. Right. Yeah,
he's been on.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
The heater this podcast. I don't even know what you said.
Sound nasty the.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Way I said awful, But it's also like, uh, that's
a bad joke. It's like Italian the Scheffler, Scottie Scheffler.
He was going to get called back to Scheffler. Was
it because we're a golf pod?

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Yeah, we're golf Ye didn't watch like Swing of the
Stick this week.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Scheffler's like, oh, that's a bad question. Then sits on it.
He's like, oh, that was awful.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
He says that I thought that was a good question.
I think you've been on a heater, yes.

Speaker 11 (01:25:58):
And the other punchline is about fifteen minutes later, he
was asked the exact same question, but by a female
reporter and answered it just no way, oh yeah, just
was like great question.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Hey, real quick though, how sick is ten years? That's
a nice little mouse. That's a nice little mouse.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Great milestone ten or aluminum, that's the year.

Speaker 11 (01:26:18):
That's the theme for the tenure.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Get her a ten of lucy as we'll get her
sweetheart shout, get her a couple of breakers? What we
got babies'd you go ahead?

Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
I saw the baby, sweet girl? Clinton no longer Clinton,
bad take does a joke. We can't have.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Fun, can't have fun on the show anymore.

Speaker 11 (01:26:38):
Just tag me if that upset.

Speaker 6 (01:26:40):
If that upset people, tag sure, yeah, Stu on a
score two speaking having fun real quick. We've talked about
this since Chris Long came on.

Speaker 7 (01:26:48):
The episode three years ago. Are we ever going to
do a trud to nature?

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
For twenty episode.

Speaker 7 (01:26:55):
Was university?

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
We try to get on some vitamins?

Speaker 7 (01:26:59):
Just a thought.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
We've done that though with Jelly. Yeah. Going into the
Miami episode, I think that's kind of awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:27:07):
I mean, I don't know, just a thought. We're having
fun at thought.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
No bad ideas in a brainstorng. No bad idea, you
need to think it's a bad idea.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
Sure, we feel good?

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
Yeah, hang on there there might be another tear talk.
Get it in there, in there they get that light
of absolutely. I would love to do that. Oh, here's
a golf pod tear hashtag tear talk. Which golfer would
you guys most want to bring in on the bus
for an interview? Tiger Woods? We've had.

Speaker 8 (01:27:39):
That's an awful questions Scotti, Scheffler, Scotty not the Taylor.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
I don't know Taylor wants Tiger Woods.

Speaker 11 (01:27:49):
Tiger is a great one, Taylor.

Speaker 7 (01:27:51):
What about a John Daily?

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
John Daly be great? John Daily be fun awesome? Is
Jack Nicholas still he is still with us? He's still
with us, he'd be right, yeah, question, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Mean I think still think great Tier Grey.

Speaker 11 (01:28:12):
Well, what else do we have?

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
I believe we're good the rip coach Freeman and CJ. Carr.
Let's do it that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
I'd be remiss if I didn't say shout out Sean
and Joe for Supercross.

Speaker 7 (01:28:25):
Kay pulled that video. Let's break down Mitch's start real quick?

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Was that when you know you were you the closest
one that kind of wheeled up a little bit?

Speaker 7 (01:28:31):
Did it on purpose?

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
He knew the camera was on your weaight, wasn't forward
enough no at all.

Speaker 7 (01:28:38):
My dad took that video.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Kind of scared the ship out of you, didn't it. Yeah, yeah,
yeah he came back down. My god, I'm chilling, chilling.
How is it with the Delaney.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
Delaney's Delaney was awesome. He was very into like the Supercross,
which made it help.

Speaker 7 (01:28:51):
It was awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Yeah, we got to meet up with there's a team
that is sponsored by First Form.

Speaker 7 (01:28:56):
Thank you, Sean, Thank you Joe. You guys are the best.
Appreciate Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
What do you want rocking here?

Speaker 7 (01:29:01):
One?

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
Yeah, Delaney is on one of their uh his name's
Devin Simonson.

Speaker 7 (01:29:08):
He's on his race bike.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
He's on like a legit thing, which is Delaney in all.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Wait, yeah, you got to get your weight up a
little bit, way forward a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Yeah, Delaney's ready to go. It's about wait forward, Yeah,
he gets it. Yeah. Oh that pop is tough. Now.
It looked fun, dude, It was a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
It is Supercross repsod so coming with Delaney. Yes, let's
dive in Coach Freeman CJ.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Carr. I will say this.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
There's a couple of times cjis gave some answers and
we just give him a big compliment on how well
polished he has and handling your media. We dive in
some good stories, We dive into some good stuff. I
think the first fifteen minutes you're like, all right, they're
working through it, working through it. Right that fifteen minute mark,
you're gonna feel a punched through like Okay, walls are
coming down. We're having a good time here. That's how
most things work with athletes.

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Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
Listen, ladies, Jolen, We've had a fantastic day. Will come
to get an offer by Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Last night.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
We're at your house, by the way, incredible establishment have there.
You have multiple homes within a home. It's like a
compound that takes place of going on with this for Yeah,
the only knock I would give you on your home
is your shuffle board is insanely inaccurate.

Speaker 7 (01:32:05):
You couldn't figure it out. It was fun.

Speaker 13 (01:32:07):
I mean, at some point you got to realize it
was leaning to the right, but you just kept going
to the right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Coach I at one point was facing the wall and
it would do a little U turn and you just
figured out this one little spot.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
And let's let's be real like you had a hard.

Speaker 7 (01:32:20):
Time with it too, but when it mattered to most.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Yeah, you got it. Done.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
It was beautiful to see the thing that I would
that struck me in the most surprised is we're playing
bump Out. There's a young man behind me. Knockout. It
depends from depends from a young CJ. Car is behind me,
and I'm thinking to myself, I gotta figure out a
way to get behind him, to get this man out.
So I'm talking a little bit of trash. I shoot,
We'll go around a couple of times, and then finally

(01:32:47):
CJ gets me out, and as we're jogging away, Cg's
like in my ear like talking all that ship, huh
catch it? So the maxie is unbelievable. We see you
at practice as well. You're pulling it, you're running, you're
showing the ball like what have you always been a
guy with a chip on your shoulder? Like kinde of
mentality because you see like the competitive nature and it
seems like I see you playing ping pong. It's one

(01:33:08):
of your boys, and it's all it's true, like you
want to kill this individual in the most positive way
possible bump out the same way, we're at practice, like
there's a true leadership feeling about you. Is that something
that has a learned thing or is that hell you've
always been since a kid.

Speaker 7 (01:33:22):
For the record, I got you both out, by the way,
I'm no good in knockouts, so young it up. But yeah,
it spends from growing up. You know. We were in
a house with three boys. My dad played football Michigan
and uh there were never like toys around our house.
It was just you know, balls where it was football, basketball, baseball, tennis, volleyball.

(01:33:45):
All we did growing up was compete whatever, you know,
So it's kind of just hardwired and and me and
whatever game you know we're playing, I'm playing to win.
And that's the way it's always been in my family.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
You obviously pay for a hell of a head coach.
What made you land on wanting to go to Notre Dame?

Speaker 7 (01:34:00):
It was the people. I remember visiting here three or
four times before I committed, and every time I came back,
it was it just felt like more and more like home.
And I remember we were driving a golf cart around here,
probably my third time visiting, and I started to like
call the the buildings by their nicknames, like hey, let's
go to the Google or let's go to you know
here and here and uh at that point, it was

(01:34:22):
like this, this feels like home. Every person I talked to, students, players,
you know, I've never met somebody who doesn't love Notre
Dame and doesn't want to be here. Everyone I talked
to Notre Dame is the best place on earth, and
I wouldn't want any other way. So I think I
picked a good, good spot.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
We were having a conversation last night about CJ and
his competitive nature and when he first came in and
when you knew, like, oh, this guy's going to be
a guy. He's going to be a dude. Do you
want to share? Yeah, a piece of that story at all.

Speaker 13 (01:34:51):
So he was he still should have been in high school,
little snotty, no senior. He came in for bowl practice
and this might have been his first, first second practice.
I'll never forget. He threw a ball to go Charlie Sona,
and I don't know if he I can't remember if
he dropped it.

Speaker 7 (01:35:10):
Ran the wrong route or whatever. I'm yelling, no, no,
he caught the touchdown and he spiked the ball.

Speaker 13 (01:35:18):
I knew something happened, right, So we caught the touchdown,
spiked the ball, and I got a little We have
a roll handed body official, and I'll never forget yelling
at him and CJ kind of just like without being disrespectful.

Speaker 7 (01:35:31):
I gets into way like, hey, it's all right, next
time we'll do it. Hey, great job, great job.

Speaker 13 (01:35:34):
And I'm never going like that's his way of giving
me the middle finger without giving me the middle finger.
But I said, I like this dude. He's competitive, he's
lifting up his teammates. I said, this dude is going
to be different, and he is.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
Do you remember the story any differently?

Speaker 7 (01:35:50):
There's probably a little more language mixed than there on
both sides, so it was a little different, But yeah,
it was Did you do that on purpose though, like
because you saw me yelling at him? Yeah? I was
just so excited, like you don't you don't catch many
touchdowns against the one offense or this was a year
before okay, gotcha okay, and so, uh, I was just

(01:36:10):
so excited to be there. You know, there's people flying
all over. Jack Kaiser's pointing out you know exactly what
we're gonna do, and I'm just like, oh geez, what's
going on here? Uh? And so we caught a touchdown.
I was just pumped, and uh, I remember I had
to go get the next play. But I just want
to pump Charlie up a little bit, you know. He he,
He hadn't caught a touchdown in a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
He saw the spike, he saw the swag on the
said the scout team was having against the starting defense.
What was?

Speaker 7 (01:36:37):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
What's your favorite? Do you guys have any any recruiting
stories you think back on?

Speaker 7 (01:36:44):
I got one my Uh, we banned my mom from
meeting with Free until, like I knew I was coming here,
because we knew, Like the moment she meets Free and
they're like in a meeting together and here's him kind
of talk about Notre Dame like it's all and I'm
not going anywhere, And like then we visit, I know
I'm committing, and my mom goes in and meets with

(01:37:06):
him and he's got her in like tears within five
minutes talking about how you know, he just loves Notre
Dame and the academics are so great. Moms are always
the games, always.

Speaker 13 (01:37:17):
That's how my son committed to Cornell. Like all these
college coaches were calling me, I never talked to Cornell.
One time. They called mom over and over. Mom fell
in love and next you know, sons going to Cornell
like mom's usually not always, usually moms are keys.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
How long did it take you to learn that? As
from like a recruiting standpoint, like, oh, moms truly hold
the keys to the castle here.

Speaker 7 (01:37:39):
Yeah, you learn it through through time.

Speaker 13 (01:37:41):
Like selling, it's when you're selling your place, but you're passionate,
like you have to be authentic. You really have to
care about what you're selling.

Speaker 7 (01:37:50):
And I do.

Speaker 13 (01:37:52):
But boys are their mama's boys, man, Like they want
to be tough, and but the end of the day,
boys and moms, man, these guys are mama's boys.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
And so I learned that.

Speaker 13 (01:38:04):
Yeah, now his mom is tough as crap. I mean,
she's it's tough, and you don't mess with mama bear.
I remember one time he got hurt in practice, and
I haven't told many people the story. The team knows this,
but this is kind of an in house story. But

(01:38:25):
he got hurt in practice. He was red shirting, and
I remember calling his mom and telling her, and it
was not a good conversation. She was not happy with me,
and rightfully so. Right as the head coach, I got
to protect our quarterbacks and but I remember getting off
that phone, and I said the next day we had
a staff me and I said, not one of y'all
have experience with what I just experienced talking to Tammy

(01:38:47):
car yesterday.

Speaker 7 (01:38:48):
And so if you can't get your.

Speaker 13 (01:38:50):
Guys to do exactly what we want to do, blah
blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 7 (01:38:53):
His mama, Tammy Carr, does not play.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
How long did it take your parents to put on
blue and Gold?

Speaker 7 (01:39:00):
My mom was in right away, she was she put
it on a day I committed. And my dad said,
when you get here, I'll start to transit into the process.
And uh, now his whole you know, I bring home
all my stuff and half his his wardrobe is Notre Dame,
and uh they're fully bought into the culture and the family.
And then Tommy's at Michigan though, Yeah, Tommy's at Michigan.

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Right And we had this conversation on Zoom when you
came on busting with the boys. We've got to figure
out a way to get that rivalry back, yeah, because
it is. I mean, it's historic for sure. When I
walk around a place like this, there's so many similar
parallels to Michigan and Notre Dame. The history all that stuff.
It's like it's got to come back that early season rivalry.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Are Yeah, we gotta get it. How do you feel
walking around Notre Dame's campus as a Michigan man.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
I wanted to not like it. I wanted to be like,
you know, this is all right, a little more uppity
than I wanted to be, kind of like the stereotype
that people got to give Notre Dame a bad light
of these guys don't like to have fun. It's a
bit more. It's it's like too tight, unfortunate. Like I've
been very impressed. Yeah, they got us jerseys too. By
the way, do we get to do we to keep those?

(01:40:06):
We get to keep our jerseys. I don't know what
he gave you jerseys?

Speaker 7 (01:40:10):
Oh yeah yeah yeah in the stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
Yeah. I wore mine and I was ready to wear
it out, but Kevin's like, hey, we kind of need
the jersey back. I was like, why I gotta take
this all?

Speaker 7 (01:40:19):
Well, we'll check and see if it's up to me.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
Yes, yeah, you're the head coach, CA it's on you now.

Speaker 7 (01:40:27):
We got a listen. Just know this.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
It go open my garage the way.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
I put mine at the bus. It would be sitting
right there. All right, fair enough? What was going back
to last year in camp? You're in a quarterback battle.
It just kind of for both of you. But like
what point did you think, Okay, I am definitely the
guy for this job? And at what point were you're like,
all right, CJ is going to be the guy?

Speaker 7 (01:40:53):
You thought you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
Yeah, that's probably a bad.

Speaker 7 (01:40:56):
Question he did.

Speaker 13 (01:40:58):
I remember when when he walked in tomorrow office to
have this conversation, you know, he had this walk like
I know I'm the guy, and like tell me I'm
the guy, and I kind of like, I didn't want
to be overly excited. I wanted him to get a
little bit nervous, and he did, Like he got a
little bit nervous. And I go back and I watch
the video because it's on video. But he has that

(01:41:19):
confidence in about him, like from the day he got here,
even when he committed. I've said this before, he's got
a personality you want to follow, even as a head coach,
like you want to follow your quarterback, like that guy
is leading your programing. And he has that and he
had to earn it. But there wasn't much doubt that

(01:41:41):
he was going to earn it and he did.

Speaker 7 (01:41:42):
He did. He earned it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
When you're in the middle of a quarterback battle and
you know, like I'm the guy, the confidence you have
feeling like all right, I feel like it's been put
on tape enough. Is it frustrating for you not getting
the answer? Because obviously for coach Freeman, like you've been
a player, we've all been a part of the the
battles that go on, it's like is this really a battle?
Or what are we doing? Or how much? How much
are we going to live in this gray area of

(01:42:06):
not knowing, like for both of you guys, like for
you CJ, starting with you, like, was it frustrating for
you at times?

Speaker 7 (01:42:11):
Yeah? For sure. I think there's there's so many emotions
that go through it. At times you have a bad
practice and you know it's it's like the whole way
the world's on your.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
Back, just like, damn, am I gonna be judged by
this day? I just exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:42:23):
But but then you know, I really appreciated the way
they did it because like Gino our quarterback coach, it
was never like one day is gonna affect the decision?
You know, it was We're gonna let you guys battle
it out in the in the fall, and one one
good day isn't going to affect it or decide it,
and one bad day isn't gonna decide it. And so

(01:42:45):
just try to keep you know, showing up and doing
your job and sticking to your process. And so it
was both I think I appreciated the way they did it,
and also at the same time it was like, ah,
like this is this is It wasn't the most fun,
you know, thing you go through, But.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
Because then you're overthinking too at times. It's like you
might go for a scrimmage on Saturday and the other
guy might be getting the one reps. You're like, I
wonder if this means no doubt that war that takes place.
Now you know it too as a player, Like what
is something that you've learned now as a head coach
that you didn't really appreciate or felt like you respected
at the time that coaches did for you as a player,

(01:43:19):
but now you're like, ah, I get this.

Speaker 13 (01:43:21):
Yeah, I think being intentional about trying to put your
players in competition because I think it brings out the
best in them. And I say, and I think you're
a better version of yourself now that you're the starter,
but you have to try to create competition to see
which guys will rise to the top. And so I

(01:43:42):
think back to my college. We all can think back
to different points where we are in competition, and sometimes
we chose to believe we shouldn't be in competition. I
think as we get older and we look back, we
go the dude I was competing with was really good.
I mean I remember I remember starting as a sophomore
in junior and in my senior year, I'm kind of
competing with a guy and he ended up being a
really good player. And so, you know, you always think

(01:44:05):
at times like, man, the coach is doing me dirty,
and at the end of the day, like we're gonna
pay play the best players. Can we create competition in practice?
If we can't, let's do it. But at the end
of the day, we're not gonna screw our guys. Oh,
we got to play the best ones to.

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
Give us a chance. There's a method to the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
Yeah, is there any like uh in the NFL, Like
with guys getting paid. When the guys get drafted in
the first round, he's gonna be kind of thrust it
into a role. Have you seen any of that with
college football, and IL like, you bring a guy in,
you pay him a lot of money. Is there like
a certain like feeling or maybe some coaches are probably
pushing for a guy that might not be might not
be ready, but because the pay amount.

Speaker 13 (01:44:44):
Yeah, I think as I look back to the two
transfer quarterbacks that we had previously with Sam Hartman and
Rylan Leonard, and I remember having a conversation like, if
it's a tie, you have to put the guy out
there that you've invested the most money. And because it's

(01:45:06):
not fair to the guy that's starting right because the
minute he throws an incomplete pass, are gonna boom and
say get the other guy in right, And so that
that's the only time that's really mattered. The rest, Like
if you're an incoming freshman, no matter what you make,
like you got to earn. You got to earn your opportunities.
And guess what if you do earn those things, you're

(01:45:28):
gonna get paid more money. Right, And so that's why
I say it's a little bit different where first round
picks in the draft they're paid so much like you
have to go in there, you better start, or somebody
in a personnel department is gonna probably be fired, right,
Whereas here your incoming freshmen aren't making the money that
your dudes are making, and so they have to earn

(01:45:50):
the right to make more money, and nobody when they
earn the right, and they've earned it on the field,
and then they're compensated for it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
Yeah, let's go back to uh last year. You guys
start off zero and two quality losses, go on ten games,
and you know, all one game by one play there
was a holding. Yeah, trust me that you know the
A and M one. I knew right when they bobbled

(01:46:17):
the field goal or the extra point or something, I
was tight because this is this is beyond what we
can talk about on busting with the boys. But then
you go on ten straight you're ranked where you're ranked
in the college football playoff rankings. The year continues to go.
You guys are blowing teams out. People are comparing which
what you did versus what Miami did and all these

(01:46:40):
other teams like how much they won, buy everything, common opponents,
all of that stuff, and then you get the news
that you guys aren't going to be in the college
fotball Playoff. When you were assuming that you were going
to be in that conversation based on where you were ranked.
Instant reaction, instant emotions. What was the team meeting room
like when you guys all got in the team meeting
room for the first time, when you see Duke win

(01:47:00):
the ACC and it's like, Okay, this could be this
could be an inside job. Those are my words. I
won't say that for anybody else. This is Will Compton's words.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
And for the if you guys haven't followed, Will was
big on the Notre Dame should be in trained, big
on it when this all went out.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
Yeah, yeah, we were doing a sideline pass SEC Championship game.

Speaker 7 (01:47:17):
Was I you were not?

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
I thought?

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
When I don't, I think I think inevitably the committee
got it corrected. Will I think ineditable the committee got
a correct I think the fault is the G fives.
No disrespect to the G fives, but we see what
happens every single time the G fives are in it.
But when he goes to the head to head with Miami,
I'm very uncomfortable right now by the way saying my
first It's like that's something you just can't ignore.

Speaker 7 (01:47:40):
Yeah, and clearly you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
Guys like you guys are a completely different team from
week one to week fourteen or whatever the last game
of the season is. And I think head to head,
it might be a different story.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
CJ. Car's first star versus CJ.

Speaker 7 (01:47:50):
Car starts.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
I'm with you, Yeah, how did how did that go down?
What went into decision to opt out of the bowl game?

Speaker 7 (01:47:55):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
What was what was that next week like for you guys,
even as a player to he likes.

Speaker 13 (01:48:00):
This is this is what we call bloody wound. You know,
the scab is, you're starting to heal, and then we
just rip that scab right off.

Speaker 7 (01:48:07):
Right, let's go back to it.

Speaker 13 (01:48:08):
And we have to do this sometimes in our program,
right when we forget about those moments. But here's what
I'll say. In the moment when it was announced, like
I didn't have the words to say right because you
were shocked, surprised, disappointed. I remember telling the players, I
don't know what to say right now, usually I do.

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I remember telling them like, don't let this decision still
the joy of what you guys accomplished this season, where
we started to where we finished. Be proud of that journey.
And and then the next day I remember going back
into the team meeting and saying, you know, one apologizing
to the seniors that this is their last year and

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the ones that this was their last season, but to
the guys that were coming back, like, we have to
use this. Don't lose the loss, use it, Use it
as a reminder that we left doubt. Right there was doubt.
There's an argument that we should have been in the
playoffs and we shouldn't. And it doesn't matter how you
feel about the decision. We left doubt. And we have
to make sure we use this as motivation and reminders

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to leave no doubt as we continue to go forward.
And so that's what we do now. We use it
and we don't pass blame. We don't blame the Committite,
we don't blame Miami anybody. We look at ourselves and say,
we fell short. So how can we make sure we
start this season faster. That's more point than anything. We
start off season zero and to two. We didn't start.
I don't care who the opponent was. We didn't start
to the level we needed to start. So we have

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to make sure that we're evaluating everything we do from
January till August and say is there a better way
to do it, and that's what we're trying to do.
And that's what we're doing. If you blame anybody's Virginia
for not being I let you do that, sees you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
How about for you, what was that next week like
for you? For the locker room?

Speaker 7 (01:49:58):
Yeah, it was it was a fun you know, you
work so hard with that team and you know, we thought,
you know, we're a top team in the country that
can really do some damage in the playoffs. And I
think the worst part was seeing the seniors kind of
leave us. The guys that, uh, you know you'd worked
day in and day out for for the last however

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many months. The Billy Strouss, the Will Paulings, the Malchi Fields,
the Jeremiah Loves, the JD's like those guys that that really,
you know, we're a huge part of that team. You
know that that you didn't know it was your last
game with them was Stanford and under the lights, like
that was the last time you were gonna be on
a field with uh, some of your best friends. And

(01:50:38):
so I think that like from a player's perspective, from
the locker room perspective, like that was a really hard,
uh way to kind of see the season go and
and like like Free said, like we're hopefully we can
use that and you know, we get the results we're
looking for this next year because we got we got
some really good good players. I mean, it's just as
I listened to CJ.

Speaker 13 (01:50:59):
It's like, how old are you know, thirty six thirty six, Like,
I don't matter if you're thirty six, thirty four, forty twenty,
like blows every as you continue, Like, things like this
happen and you might not think they're fair.

Speaker 7 (01:51:18):
Usually there are fair.

Speaker 13 (01:51:19):
At some point you realize that, Like, but these are
things that happen in life. You're gonna lose games, You're
gonna get disappointments. My son's gonna lose. We're in wrestling, like,
and we have to use these experience to make us better,
Like is there's more coming for all of us? There
are there are more disappointments and things we don't think
is fair, but it's gonna happen, and we got to

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use it and we got to continue to be better
because of it. And that's what I that's the mindset
I take when I think about the future and I
think about some of the things that has happened and
will happen.

Speaker 1 (01:51:49):
As we sit here in April halfway through springball. Like
when I go and I listen to you know, the
super fans of Notre Dame and they talk about this roster,
the only thing they really talk about is like, how
do you replace Jeremiah Love? Which is clear, but from
top to bottom. Now, you guys only take seven transfers,
but you're a top ten portal class, like you guys
have been the top eight, top ten for recruiting in general.
Like when you evaluate your team now, where you're at

(01:52:10):
compared to where you were last year, how do you
feel about the team? And the same question for U.

Speaker 7 (01:52:13):
CJ.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
When you're just evaluating as a second year starter.

Speaker 7 (01:52:17):
You want to start sure, I'm I'm excited for this
this squad and this team, and uh, like you said,
like the transfers that come in have immediately meshed in
the locker room and are already part of of the
family of Notre Dame. And seeing them come out here
every day and step into roles that you know need
need guys to step up in has been exciting And

(01:52:39):
I'm just excited to continue on the path with those guys,
Like I said, like, the best memories you have are
of last season, are playing with the guys who aren't here,
and and uh, it's a whole new set of guys
in there, some some the same. I'm just excited to
continue to work throughout spring, summer, fall, and then into.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
The CJ saying they're coming for it all. That's what
he said was, yeah, he's doing a great job.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
The microphones on right now, but truly wants to say
it's like, oh yeah, we're fucking taking everything actually wants.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
He sits in his carver day, he closes the door,
he looks, he looks at himself in the riverview mirror.
He's like, we're coming for everything.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
And then he turns up whatever music is probably the
theme track Yourself takes place every white boy at them ever.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
Yeah, or like NBA Young Boy, Yeah, yeah, there can
be a young boy.

Speaker 7 (01:53:25):
No, my brother loves NBA young Boy.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
What is your genre of music you're into.

Speaker 7 (01:53:29):
I'm all over the place. My uh, one of our
our quarterback ga has kind of put me on too,
like some of the house music stuff, some some reggae
in there, and so we're all over the place in
the quarterback room about what are you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
I'm just whatever. Most mostly kids music like whatever my
daughter likes. We'll be rocking Taylor Swift, Gracie's Corner, Uh,
whatever she wants on is pretty much what I'm listening
to if I'm by myself. Is mainly like podcasts.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
Yeah, yeah, my daughter is. They're they're big into uh
with that K pop Demon Hunters movie, Baging and Golden
they love it. My youngest she'll get on the top
of the kitchen counter and she'll just belt it out.
Every song knows them all. For me, I'm stuck in
nineteen ninety seven to two thousand and five like Blanket
two to me is the greatest band of all time.
Can't beat the most influential band of all time. But

(01:54:15):
that good Charlotte some forty one taking back Sunday, That's
that's my vibe, that alternative punk. Alternative punk.

Speaker 13 (01:54:22):
Yes, yeah, my wife sent me a reel the other day.
It was I think it was like dad or mom,
what were you like in the nineties? Yeah, and they
played the Google's Google Doll song Yeah, Irish or whatever,
And I've been hooked on those like what were you
like in the nineties? Yeah, it makes me feel like
an old guy looking back. But that's what you made
me think of what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Did you see that it might have been the best
era of music?

Speaker 7 (01:54:44):
It was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
The Rocks got a good video. Oh yeah, yeah, you
got some tears of my eyes. I got yeah as well.
Yeah there's one out there. Then you make it Jack,
he's very proud of it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
But what is the evaluation that you look at right now,
like where you guys are doing better, where you think
you need to improve on in certain areas at this
point in spring?

Speaker 13 (01:55:08):
Yeah, you learn through experience, right. I remember in like
twenty four we had a really really good talented team
and I was overly excited, like this is the most
talented rosters we've ever had, and we lose a oil
of ainoi and you get humbled really fast, And like
the roster, the ceiling's high. We've got a high ceiling.
We just we got to keep doing the work, man,
like we consider in daydream about how higher ceiling is,

(01:55:31):
or just go to work and work and find ways
to improve and just keep chasing that full potential. We
have to become a more consistent football team. Today we
finished practice seven and there's areas of improvement, like how
do we get consistent in doing our jobs right every
single play? And those are the ways that we got
to challenge our players and the standards that we have
to set. And so I'm excited though, like because we

(01:55:54):
got a bunch of We got leaders that are workers, right,
and when I always believe you're led by the strong,
and when you're strong, are your best workers. The other
guys just follow because they don't know any better. And uh,
we got some strong leaders. So we're keeping pushing them
to keep working and challenging those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
Blow them that North of the Illinois game, I was like,
what the yah?

Speaker 7 (01:56:16):
Right after you?

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
Yeah, yeah, shame. This game is immediate text to shame, right,
This game will humble you.

Speaker 7 (01:56:22):
Yeah. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
One thing that I feel like you can evaluate, like
what's a well coached team is like the amount of
like preseason of pre snap and post snap penalties you
dubbed us referees today very limited penalties across the board.
And I was trying my best to throw the laundryll
over the yard.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
I was kind of caught because obviously a defense.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
It seemed like you were kind of zoned out if.

Speaker 13 (01:56:39):
You tell your hands when you're piety and I'm like,
ok at will back there.

Speaker 7 (01:56:43):
He's just watching practice. After every play, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
Looking at the big screen watching the snap. Yeah, you
kind of just get caught. I'm like, I mean, there
ain't much going on out of here. There's a couple.

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
There was a couple I was trying to keep. I
was trying to in the secondary. I was trying to
hold the standard.

Speaker 13 (01:56:56):
Well, you missed the most obvious when the play clock
was at zero for about three seconds. So yeah, I
just kept looking at you like you're gonna throw. You're
just making checks and checks and checks, and that there
was a play.

Speaker 7 (01:57:06):
Coock. Going to be honest with you, I'm gonna look
bad as a head coach, and I'm just telling you
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
You guys seem like a well coached you.

Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
Your team understands the rules, like your OFFENSI line and
know when they get out of the framework, they let
go of the jersey, they give a shove. Guys are
really good intentional with their hands, Like how much goes
into that from a coaching standpoint of making sure these
guys understand the rules and use the rules to their advantage.

Speaker 13 (01:57:32):
Yeah, it's important, right, is that? Like, don't beat Notre Dame.
It's something we talked about all the time, and and
pre snap post snap penalties playing with bad fundamentals that
beats Notre Dame. Aggressive penalties will take every day.

Speaker 7 (01:57:43):
Right.

Speaker 13 (01:57:44):
If we're the least penalized team, then we're not the
team that I want to coach. But we can't have stupid,
undisciplined penalties. Those are the ones that will kill you,
and so we have to show them. We'll watch the
mistakes of others. We do that all the time. We
watch other people make mistakes so we don't repeat them.
And we just got to keep educating our guys on
how to play the game properly, but with the violence

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and intentionality that we demand.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
Your name flirted around a lot when the New York
Giants head job was up. How real were those? Obviously?
You you know, you came out, you said what you
said about staying in Notre Dame and everything else. But
I feel like your name's gonna continue to come up
year in and year out with the NFL, not knowing
if you have aspirations for it. But how real do
those conversations get? And what is the thought process that

(01:58:30):
goes into if you even were to make a decision
like that between going to the NFL or staying where
you're at.

Speaker 13 (01:58:36):
Yeah, I don't want to give a cliche answer, but
I believe this strongly. Like with team success comes individual opportunities,
and so I hope conversations like this continue to happen
because that means our team is doing really, really good
and they're gonna, you know, people, they want to give
credit to one. They're gonna give it to the quarterback

(01:58:57):
when we win, or give it to the head coach.
They're gonna fire fire me when we lose, and they
want me to replace you when we lose. But we
know it takes people. And that's that's why I was
in that situation and an off season. You know, I
used it as an opportunity. I don't know, I've never
coached the NFL. I was in the NFL for one year.

(01:59:17):
I use an opportunity to figure out, like what is
being a head coach in the NFL and TAIL what's
the difference is how do you work with GMS and
the salary cap and all these different things. It was
it was good for me to learn, but I finished
the statements like I'm as happy at this place with
these group of young people, this coaching staff, this support

(01:59:40):
a happened issue like this is special and I hope
you guys are feeling it right now, like it's it's
a special place with special people that you get to
impact their lives. And that's what I love about coaching
eighteen to twenty two year olds, Like you can pour
in and impact one hundred and twenty guys or one
hundred and five guys, and and and that's why just
the starters, not just the ones that play. And I

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love that. That's my why, right, why you go to
work every day is to try to impact these young people.
And so I'm happy.

Speaker 2 (02:00:10):
Man. Yeah, yeah, how was it for you? And when
you see your head coach, So for an example, like
I remember when coach bo I wanted to say there
was there would be rumors about him potentially going to
Miami or wanting to go to the NFL, and you,
as an innocent player, you're not thinking.

Speaker 7 (02:00:26):
You just don't.

Speaker 2 (02:00:27):
You're just in the box. You're like, oh, this is
my head coach, these are my guys, like everything else.
And then when you see it or you see that
it's rumored or something else, Like I know for me,
I'm like I need to hit coach Bow up or
I need to go to his office, Like, Hey, what's
going on. What is it like for you as a
player in that situation when you see when you see
your head coach in headlines.

Speaker 7 (02:00:45):
Like that, Yeah, it's not hitting Free up making sure.
But yeah, I think, like looking back at the recruiting process,
I think people told me like growing up not to
commit to a coach, and I think just nowadays, it's
such a hard thing to navigate because you know, Free
such a huge part of why I picked Notre Dame

(02:01:08):
and and uh, you know, his job is to bring
in the best coaches in America to to make sure
our team, you know, achieve success. And so you hear
those rumors and it's it's there's a little bit of
anxiety of like, is this is this real? It's not
just because you know you don't want you don't want
Free to leave. He's the best coach in America and
and you trust him and you've built this relationship with him,

(02:01:30):
but also you trust him.

Speaker 14 (02:01:32):
I hope you all are enjoying the Notre Dame interview
but we got to take a second.

Speaker 2 (02:01:35):
Notre Dame. They don't cut corners, they never have.

Speaker 14 (02:01:39):
The fighting Irish have never cut corners and they never will.
The fighting Irish do things the right way, always have
and that's how.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
We move too, No shortcuts.

Speaker 14 (02:01:49):
That's why we eat Kevin's clean ingredients, no fillers, no nonsense,
and it actually tastes good, loaded with protein.

Speaker 2 (02:01:58):
That's doing things the right way, US championship level fuel.
Just like Notre Dame.

Speaker 5 (02:02:04):
We're very locked in right now, extremely locked in right now.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
About reading internet.

Speaker 7 (02:02:15):
Don't read that media.

Speaker 1 (02:02:18):
Is it hard not to read the internet?

Speaker 2 (02:02:19):
Though?

Speaker 1 (02:02:20):
When you're in the position you are, We talked about
earlier about you being a you know, everyone's saying this
guy is gonna be the heisman. There's a lot of noise,
and with noise, like comes expectation. And when you have
a bad game, you I mean, everyone one way or
another sees it or hears about it, like people passionate
fans are passionate on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 2 (02:02:35):
When you guys win and.

Speaker 1 (02:02:36):
Lose, How how is it for you in this the
way social media is now, the way everyone has their opinions, everyone,
every dumb ex athlete has a podcast to like judge
you and how you guys handle things, like, how is
it for you with all this excess noise around?

Speaker 7 (02:02:52):
Ah, It's it's not crazy. You'd think it'd be, at
least for me. It's uh, Like I think when we
win and lose it in that locker room, the opinion
and the expectations are so high that that's kind of
all you hear is I'm not on a bunch of
social media all the time and reading everything because, uh,
the opinions in the locker room are are so high,

(02:03:12):
and the opinions and expectations I have for myself and
it's this team are so high that nothing else kind
of really matters. And I think, uh, I think you
know that that speaks for most of that locker room too,
Like we're so invested in what goes on in there,
and everything else is is noise and kind of in
the way and just distracts from you know, getting better

(02:03:32):
today and and uh, you know reaching you know, the
goals that you know we want to reach.

Speaker 2 (02:03:37):
I love that.

Speaker 7 (02:03:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:03:38):
Yeah, you can't read in the social media too.

Speaker 1 (02:03:40):
Nothing worse than sitting there. I tell you, what are
your name in the search bar. We've all We've all
done it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:45):
I've been there.

Speaker 1 (02:03:46):
You'll have a game when you were playing, Yeah, you
put it in and you just kind of scrolling like
we had a pretty good game. Everybody's a victim to
that dude. It's like you'll see ten comments and like,
let's just say you had a great game. Nine of
them are this dude's the man, and then you see
one that's like this guy kind of sucks and you're
like something about that one just suffocates my soul a

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little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
Yeah, like, oh I had a pretty good game today.
Let me see what's saying about old Willie Boy. They
exactly Yeah, Yeah, you gotta be careful renow on social media?
Which does I do want to ask, like, how are
you as a wrestling dad? I don't know. I don't

(02:04:27):
know if this is subconsciously something I saw on social media,
but it seems like you're you're a very intentional, bought
in as a wrestling dad, like going to watch your
boy wrestles.

Speaker 13 (02:04:38):
Passion that you have. I went to one wrestling matches
year in January. Yeah, you know, and so it reminded
me why don't go to wrestling matches and and uh
you know, another reason is because people look at you, right,
And sometimes I want to be a parent, right, And

(02:05:01):
if I'm there in person, I know people are looking
at me. So I kind of sit there and don't
move and just act like I'm non emotional. But in
my office, when I watch on my iPad, I can be
I can move, and I can be a father, and
uh so I enjoy it way better in my office,
and I stay out of headlines when I'm watching them.

Speaker 2 (02:05:22):
Yeah yeah, fair enough, fair enough. Wrestling's intense. Now it's
fandom and wrestling you're bought in, like you said, you're
like moving, grooving. Yeah, I wrestle. I wrestled, but I
felt more like I didn't like wrestling. My parents kind
of made me wrestle because it benefited football. But my
brother Cody, he was really good, and I felt like
I was just as invested in watching Cody out there
wrestle because he was like ranked in the country, and

(02:05:44):
you know, when he had a primetime match and when
he got to State, when he was going to wrestle
the dudes in State, and you're kind of just your sweating,
you're up there, you kind of have anxiety, you want
him to win so badly. I love the wrestling culture.

Speaker 7 (02:05:56):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
Yeah, they're traveling around the Triple Crown, Reno, Tulsa.

Speaker 13 (02:06:00):
That wrestling community is small, but it's it's they're they're nuts,
man in a good way. Yeah, it's it's a you
got four of them four now four wrestlers. The three
other boys they're they're like what you just said, Like
there's no option. They have to wrestle. Y Ven, he's
to the point now he gets to choose the wrestle.
But those three boys are gonna keep them in there
because I think that Bill's character, it's really good fundamentals

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and stuff.

Speaker 7 (02:06:23):
But like, you have to learn how to lose.

Speaker 13 (02:06:25):
And football is the greatest team sport, right And I
often say this. When we have success, you point it's.

Speaker 7 (02:06:34):
Because of c J.

Speaker 13 (02:06:34):
Cars, because you, it's because of you, it's because of you.
But when we have failure, when we lose, I say
this is wrestling. I want everybody to say it's my fault.
Because in wrestling, you lose, it's you. But we have
to be able to do that. We have to be
able to say it is my fault, it's not your fault,
because outside of here, they blame somebody else, and it's

(02:06:57):
easy to follow that, but we need to look at
ourselves when we have failure and point to other people
when we have success.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
How difficult is that as a coach when you have
players that are clearly making a lot of money. Everybody
who's coming to Notre Dame was the man in their hometown,
four star, five star guys, and so they're so used
to everybody kind of patting them on the ass all
the time. Now they come in, things are faster, They're
making a lot of mistakes. It's one thing I noticed
with football players, it's very difficult to instill accountability. And

(02:07:25):
have you noticed that be an issue with like kind
of this new era of nil at all?

Speaker 7 (02:07:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (02:07:29):
I think, I mean a lot depends on how you're raised, right,
and and are you raised to take accountability? Are you
raised to look at yourself and not blame others? But
it's an everyday message in our program, right, And I
think there's parallels between making the choice to put Notre
Dame in front of yourself, which we all have to

(02:07:51):
do if we want to achieve the goals we want, right,
and then saying, okay, if I choose to be selfless
and putting Notre Dame in front of myself. I can
blame myself help when we don't have success, right, And
it's my job to get him to understand why that's
so important, no matter if your role was the Scout
team linebacker or offensive lineman or you either starting quarterback.

(02:08:11):
When we have failure, what do I have to do?
Where did I fail? As the head coach? Where did
I fail? And when we have success to be able
to say, you know what, quarterback, good job, But I'm
going to tell the Scout team offensive lineman, great job too.
We've gotten away from players of the game. We've gotten
away from game balls because it kind of was mixed

(02:08:34):
messaging with what I believe in Your role doesn't determine
your value in our program? Well, why am I going
to give the game ball to CJ. Car because he
threw three touchdowns? But the Scout Team dB that did
exactly what he was supposed to do every single day
all week long, that gave him that Look, why doesn't
he deserve a game ball?

Speaker 7 (02:08:52):
Right?

Speaker 13 (02:08:53):
And so I've kind of like we have to put
Notre Dame in front of ourselves, right, And I think
there's parallels between that and having it out ability.

Speaker 2 (02:09:01):
Dude, CJ. How about for you, like when he's sitting
there talking about accountability or those moments when you realize
like it's about patting your old line on the ass,
like learning about that leadership, Like at what age do
you feel like you started to figure out that there
was more to the game than just your overall performance,
and that the way you carry your body language, the

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way when you say things to your coaches like how
guys kind of feed off of that to where you realize, oh,
I'm influencing everybody around me, not just myself. When do
you feel like you were you started learning that and
picking that up?

Speaker 7 (02:09:34):
Yeah, the growing up my dad, you know, he played
quarterback at a really high level. And I'm from a
coach's family. He coached, my grandpa coached, and so I've
kind of heard the message like as a quarterback, it's
always your fault and whether that's good or bad. And
so you know, for me, when I don't achieve success

(02:09:55):
with the team out there, like I feel like I'm
very hard on myself and I think the locker room
is too, Like there isn't a bunch of pointing fingers
when we're down there, it's it's it's usually you know, hey,
this was on me and and here's why, and and uh,
let's go out there and fix it. And you know,
we're so close as a as a unit that we

(02:10:15):
can get on one another when it is like, hey
this is this is your fault or your fault is
it's you just don't see a lot of that in
this offense and on this team. Excuse me, on this team.
And it's fun to be a part of just you know,
everyone is playing for each other.

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
Do you feel like there was an age that it
ever started to click though, Cause it's always like, you know,
if your dad saying it, your dad could be the
greatest player of all time, but it's still your dad.
So a lot of the things you can go through
one year out the other. But do you feel like
there was an age to where that started to click
for you because all of us growing up, like I
was an offensive player, Like growing up you want to
score touchdowns. You think like, yo, I'm I'm the man,
I'm doing my job, I'm playing the best to where

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you know, whether it was in high school or whenever
it be, to where it clicked for me that like, okay,
I can kind of see what either whether it's coach,
whether it's dad, whether t whoever is kind of talk
talking about the way I kind of carry myself or
taking the extra step to like go, you know, cheer
on or encourage somebody else around you. Like at what
age do you feel like that started to click for you?
From when you went, you know, I'm CJ car, I'm
the man. I'm doing all this stuff too. This involves

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a lot more around me than just me.

Speaker 7 (02:11:16):
Growing up, I had the message my dad always you know,
I was I played baseball a bunch growing up, and
every time I struck out or wasn't pitching or made
an air in the field, I would cry immediately. From
like ages you know, eight, this is what twelve, you what,
I was in tears, balling my eyes out, and it
would just piss my dad off so much, and he

(02:11:38):
hated being out there with me crying and so no
and so body language was like a huge thing that
was kind of you know, drilled into me from a
young age. And you know, I just ignored him for
four years because I was still crying throughout those those ages.
But he had like this poster outside of his door,

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and it was like the definition of mental toughness. And
it was developing a mindset where you will not make
or accept an excuse for lack of success. And every
time I made an excuse or cried in baseball, he
would just like door now, like have me just recite
it over and over and over again and and so so, uh,

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body language was was a big thing for me, and
and him saying, you know, if you want to be
the quarterback, you can't be out here in tears, looking
like a baby on the mount like you want to
you want you say you want to go, you know,
play quarterback, and all the eyes around you and you're
crying right now, like you can't. You can't be a
quarterback like that. And so that was the stuff that

(02:12:40):
was kind of instilled in me at a young age.
And I still that's.

Speaker 13 (02:12:43):
Good to hear it, because like I just got done
raving about his mom, Tammy Carr, Mama there, like I didn't.
Your dad's the most quiet, soft spoken guy, but in
the hell.

Speaker 7 (02:12:53):
He's yeah, they don't. You don't see no, no, you don't.

Speaker 2 (02:12:56):
See im mess with that. So so so follow like
a whole before you stop crying.

Speaker 7 (02:13:01):
So it was like my parents weren't. I didn't play
tackle football till seventh grade, so I don't know what
age that is. But the year before that, I'm still crying.
I'm in sixth grade, like crying over striking out in baseball.
And my dad was like, all right, you're gonna play
this year a baseball and if you cry one time,
you're not playing football. And I never cried again.

Speaker 13 (02:13:23):
Listen, play wiffleball on Fridays before the game and I
strike him out all the timeball? You think, right, but
you don't cry anymore. It's a good time about you.
You've never striked you out free?

Speaker 7 (02:13:35):
That's a lie? Are You're right?

Speaker 1 (02:13:40):
My faults?

Speaker 7 (02:13:41):
Who strikes all the times off? You're gonna lie on
a podcastcause you don't even look like you're telling the
true Stop it right now. That's that's the sound that
he's been so, you know, nice And then that's the
sound of someone lying.

Speaker 1 (02:13:54):
That's the sound of somebody lying. He's gonna yesterday and shovel.

Speaker 7 (02:13:58):
By yourself like I'm not good in rockout or what
do you call it? Bump like I can't. I'm not
a basketball player. So you're telling me you did tell
trying to shoot the best, but you're telling me you're
a good ball player. You're saying that on podcasts. Home
runs every Friday.

Speaker 1 (02:14:15):
Is there any film with this that we can there's.

Speaker 13 (02:14:20):
Shoot it to us. I'll get you something this year. Yeah,
that's our thing Friday, little wiffleball. They were mad I
kept hitting home runs. So now they brought out a
little strike zone and like they throw crazy pitches.

Speaker 7 (02:14:31):
Now see I mean now we've changed the the sound changes.
You know. I used to hit a bunch of home
runs until they brought out this. That's mental toughness. That's
an excuse of go to the door.

Speaker 1 (02:14:47):
For you as a head coach, of like evaluating how
to coach different players. Like one thing I noticed with
the great coaches they understand how to coach certain guys
based on their personality. How long did it take you
to realize, like, Okay, I can kind of get after
this guy a little bit as opposed to this guy
who have kind of a massage into it.

Speaker 13 (02:15:03):
Yeah, it took some time, but at the end of
the day, it's understanding that you want to get the
players that you coach to play at their highest level.
And if player X doesn't respond to the way you're
coaching or yelling at him and playing at a better level,
then you're crazy just to keep yelling and screaming at

(02:15:25):
anymore or being really nice. Now, if if player why
responds better to you yelling and challenging them, then then
you got to figure out what each player needs to
ultimately go out there and perform at their highest level.
And I think that it takes time, it takes investment,
but it's understanding, put your ego aside as a coach

(02:15:47):
and understand what your player needs to perform better. Right,
We're going to correct you no matter what. How does
this correction need to take place? How do you handle correction?
You know, for me, my father's military right twenty six
years Air Force, Like it was black and white and
there was not much a discussion. So that's how it
was ray. So if you yelled at me and you're shirtless, okay, yeah,

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certain players don't respond like that, and so coach them
in the ways that are going to get them to
perform at their highest level.

Speaker 2 (02:16:16):
What were some off that like, what were some bad
habits that you look back on that you used to
have as a head coach because when I was Washington
we had Sean McVay was the OC. I remember asking him, like,
what do you feel like the hardest thing is like
when he was about to go into the head coaching
search and everything else, and his response was like coaching
players that aren't that wasn't the way I was like

(02:16:37):
on this connecting with different guys, Like, now that you
are where you are, what do you look back on
where you had some where you see old habits that
you're like, man, why did I do it like that
with some of these players?

Speaker 7 (02:16:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (02:16:47):
You know, I started coaching when I was twenty four
and you know, now being forty, I think you mature
with time. You coach players differently. You don't you're not
trying to beat buddy, but you're ultimately trying to impact them, right,
And I think that's what I've learned more than anything,
is like, how do I find ways to impact not

(02:17:08):
to get this guy to like me, but to impact
him in a way that he's better because I coached him.
And I think that's a great point to coach what
they made Like not everybody responds to coaching the way
you do, and you have to understand this isn't about you.
It's about impacting those people you coach. And I think
it just but it takes time and investment. It takes
true intentional time to figure out what this person needs

(02:17:32):
as a coach.

Speaker 1 (02:17:33):
Did you ever, like have a hard time with having
being a coach twenty four year old coach and trying
to like not get the guys to like you, or
not being okay with them not liking you in certain ways?

Speaker 13 (02:17:44):
Yeah, I mean I think it was laid out to
me very clear when I started being a graduate assistant
that hey, you played with a lot of these guys
and they're not your buddies. Right, you have a job
to do. And I'll tell you this real quick. I
got into coaching because I wanted to stay around football.
Right at one year in NFL is like, man, I
want to stay around football. I want to coach. And

(02:18:06):
very quickly I learned, like what gives a coach the
greatest gratification is when you help someone have success. I
helped this kid, gave him a tip defensend to help
him get a sack, and my memory came over and
chest bumped me, and it was like, that's it. That's
what coaching is. It's not I could be doing I
just happened. No football, it could be any sport, it

(02:18:27):
could be anything. It'd be a teacher. But investing in
somebody and seeing him have success, that's for me is
what's it's all about.

Speaker 1 (02:18:35):
I love that we got a couple of fans.

Speaker 7 (02:18:39):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (02:18:39):
This comes from Alex de Michelle tier one, Alex deve Michelle.
Would you recruit this guy to play a full back
for the Fighting Irish? I believe this question is for you, coach.
This is the individual in question. Would you recruit that?

Speaker 7 (02:18:55):
Yeah, he's got dick neck.

Speaker 2 (02:18:57):
I mean it looks like Bros ninety tell man, I
do it was like a rival seminar, I do, got
my phone. I'm telling you I should.

Speaker 7 (02:19:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:19:08):
I love the Huskers though, like that is that's number one. Forever,
never went forever. But there was a heart going on.
There was a love in my heart. That's being a
little like recaptured. And I'm remembering those old vibes and
that the great feelings I did have. When I think
of the Irish, I was very salty.

Speaker 1 (02:19:25):
When you think about that individually, looking at full back,
what do you think about this guy?

Speaker 13 (02:19:29):
Meeting him in the whole ray I'm winning thirty one National.

Speaker 7 (02:19:35):
I don't think I knew that.

Speaker 1 (02:19:37):
He was way scarier in that photo.

Speaker 7 (02:19:39):
Yeah, let me see the photo that was the free
photos that get through the way.

Speaker 13 (02:19:44):
Different, like when I can't remember, like, what's the guy
that played linebacker at Miami not Vilma.

Speaker 7 (02:19:51):
DJ Williams. Remember that name?

Speaker 13 (02:19:53):
So he had a body and like I remember that
was the thing, like you played linebacker. Maybe it was
a black thing. I don't know, like you ring, we
had to wear the neck roll. I got rid of
it my senior year. Yeah, but my junior year I did.
And like we chose to go bald, and then we're
even in college. It was a couple of times, me
and Lauren Itis and some of our guys who chose.

Speaker 7 (02:20:14):
To go bald. And then you go, all right, I
don't want to go bald man.

Speaker 2 (02:20:17):
Now that you got a barbershop in your house. Yeah,
look at that fade both of you. You guys got
some nice fades here.

Speaker 13 (02:20:22):
Yeah, Leo, you I'm like, man, get a fade man quarterback.

Speaker 1 (02:20:29):
Once you go down a little bit. Some about the
let us in the back of the helmet.

Speaker 7 (02:20:32):
If I could, if my buddies wouldn't just constantly make
fun of me. I would go. I would go ball too.
It's just easy. It's consistent. You wake up every day,
it's the same. I don't gotta worry about it.

Speaker 2 (02:20:43):
How about how about this gentleman right here?

Speaker 7 (02:20:45):
He should have been at Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (02:20:48):
That's a good that patches in the middle right on.

Speaker 7 (02:20:51):
Normal all American? What does that say that American?

Speaker 1 (02:20:54):
Yeah, didn't have any offers till my senior year. Three games, Scott, really,
three game? Were you skinny? I mean it was literally
the same weight I am right now, two fifty four.
That was like what I was going into my freshman
year at Michigan. But I only played off at the
line my senior year.

Speaker 13 (02:21:10):
So I get to Notre Dame. You know, he reminds
me of the Joe Olt I mean tight end in
high school. Came into Notre Dame.

Speaker 7 (02:21:17):
We came at the same time, I mean two sixty right,
and became a dude. Yeah, it's good, thanks man. I
would recruit it. You would you have? Yeah? Yeah, would bloom?

Speaker 2 (02:21:31):
I think you would have gave Notre Dame. Oh yeah,
I would have.

Speaker 1 (02:21:33):
I would have took a visit coach free seeing now
with the fab his house, I would have drink the
cool yeah, playing ump out and he correct me.

Speaker 2 (02:21:41):
But I guess it's I guess it's all right. We
have some uh, we have some fan questions here.

Speaker 1 (02:21:48):
Also we have fan questions. Yeah, go ahead, Okay. This
one comes from Caleb P.

Speaker 2 (02:21:55):
Matthew. What separates Notre Dame's locker room culture compared to
other schools that you've been at.

Speaker 13 (02:22:03):
I just think these guys are really close. And we
say the brotherhood, but it organically happens because this is
a small school, right, nine thousand students. It's not a
big campus, so they're organically close to each other. They
hang out in the locker room a lot. You're always
guys here, and so I think that helps promote that closeness.

(02:22:24):
I remember I used drive fifteen minutes from campus. Right,
There's been places when you're in a big city, a
lot of guys live a drive away. These guys all
live within a mile from here, so they hang out
a lot in city.

Speaker 2 (02:22:35):
Way too many things to do, like so I've been
I mean, not not like a shop, but not like
a whole lot as a small town guy, not a
whole lot to do to where the main thing can
be the main thing that makes sense.

Speaker 7 (02:22:45):
That's a nice way to put it. Yeah, yeah, the linebacker.

Speaker 2 (02:22:50):
Yeah, they got the linebacker. They got to be once.

Speaker 7 (02:22:53):
We've been there.

Speaker 2 (02:22:53):
We've been once.

Speaker 7 (02:22:54):
I've never been there.

Speaker 2 (02:22:55):
It was great, you've never been. No, we'll take you some.

Speaker 13 (02:22:57):
Time, Shang Guiller said, because that's what I was like,
I've never been a lineback. You said, if you win
a national championship, we're going to the linebacker.

Speaker 2 (02:23:08):
Jane Gillis took us to Taco Bell.

Speaker 1 (02:23:10):
Of all the fans that you guys that are fans
have noted in that you guys have met, who is
the number one like fanboy?

Speaker 7 (02:23:17):
Ah, I feel like Shane Gillis is up there. Yeah,
it has to be.

Speaker 2 (02:23:22):
He loves.

Speaker 1 (02:23:24):
How cool is it meeting Vince Vaughn?

Speaker 7 (02:23:26):
It's crazy?

Speaker 2 (02:23:27):
Is he not the goat?

Speaker 7 (02:23:28):
The goat?

Speaker 2 (02:23:28):
God? I met him here?

Speaker 7 (02:23:31):
No, what happened? I don't know any movies. You never
see wedding crashers. I've seen wedding crashers.

Speaker 1 (02:23:37):
Okay, yeah, all right, then you're solid.

Speaker 7 (02:23:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:23:39):
Have you seen a couple's retreat?

Speaker 7 (02:23:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:23:41):
You've seen four Christmases? No, you've seen Swingers. No, you've
seen The Breakup.

Speaker 7 (02:23:45):
Yeah what a film.

Speaker 3 (02:23:47):
Yeah, that's a great film. You seen Jurassic World, Yeah,
not the new one. He's like, stop, you need to
dive into that. Okay, all right, Vince was the man, bro, Yeah,
they is the man.

Speaker 2 (02:24:00):
He was here that game. It was the one against
the Hot State. Yeah, because we first drove down or
not we Notre Dame first drove down and I was like,
we got to take the three here and they went
for it and they didn't get it. You gotta take the
three on the field.

Speaker 7 (02:24:14):
No, stop that that.

Speaker 2 (02:24:15):
Wasn't fourth, that was fourth less. Let's play the game.

Speaker 7 (02:24:19):
QB sneak on fourth and one and you want to
bring up that, Well.

Speaker 1 (02:24:21):
I'm just saying we look at places ways to get better.

Speaker 7 (02:24:23):
Yeah, that's right. Keep the pain.

Speaker 1 (02:24:24):
You have eleven guys in the.

Speaker 2 (02:24:25):
Field consistently challenge ourselves. Right.

Speaker 1 (02:24:28):
Here's another one from at tail of one seventy seven,
your time at Ohio State. Did you ever get a tattoo?
And did you pay for it?

Speaker 7 (02:24:39):
Great question?

Speaker 13 (02:24:41):
Did you ask if I ever lost the Michigan No
I didn't. No, I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (02:24:44):
If that's what you never lost? The Michigan never I
won one and three. I beat actually, let me phrase that,
I beat Ohio State once. So, so, did you get
any tattoos.

Speaker 2 (02:24:56):
When that's the when that stuff happened? What was that
twenty in two thousand, Yeah, when that happened. Now this
is decade, like, this is almost two decades ago. Right,
they can't get you now. Yeah, it's over now. But
when that when that came out where you kind of
like laughing.

Speaker 7 (02:25:10):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (02:25:11):
You don't know before you right, your grandfather, But when
that came out where you're kind of like, oh man,
we were doing X, Y and Z memorabilia or tattoos.

Speaker 7 (02:25:24):
I didn't do any of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:25:26):
You don't have any tattoos, like, hey, it's I got
a wedding ring it. Yes, but there are guys who
are friends with the haad tattoos.

Speaker 7 (02:25:34):
I don't know. I don't know. You don't know anything,
and I don't know they. I don't know if they.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:25:40):
You didn't out your teammates.

Speaker 7 (02:25:42):
I did, but I don't know. Can we move on
to can we move on to it's over you?

Speaker 1 (02:25:53):
How about the shot about Michigan?

Speaker 2 (02:25:55):
Yeah, that's crazy that's back in the time, like he
never lost the Michigan that's a flex. He's got to
give as the Yeah, as big as the rivalry is.

Speaker 7 (02:26:05):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (02:26:05):
I got one here from n Meyer sixty eight. Who
were your most influential coaches in your high school career
at Wayne or college career at Ohio State that inspired
you to become a coach yourself? Sending love from Fairborne, Ohio.

Speaker 13 (02:26:18):
I've had a lot of influential coaches. Head coach in
high school my linebacker's coach who was a complete a
hole but like you appreciate it now. He used to
he an older guy. His name was Pat Wood. He yelled, scream,
head butt you, punch you. But I appreciate it now,
he cared. He really did. I appreciate it. He smoked
cigarettes all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:26:39):
And blowing him up.

Speaker 13 (02:26:41):
I mean, I'm scarred, but I love him like I
love him, and uh, you know obviously coach Tressel, who
was my college coach, Luke Fickle was my linebacker's coach,
and but I never wanted to coach ever. I wanted
to be an ad. Actually my fifth year in college,
a gad for Jean Smith, who is our athletic director
at the time, because I thought I wanted to be

(02:27:02):
an ad and and then after that year in the
NFL was like, I want to get into coaching and
and kind of the journey has got me here. But
there's a lot of influential people that from my dad
to all these different people that I've mentioned that you
feel like they have a little part of you, Right,
there's a piece of them in you and how you
lead and who you are as a father and a

(02:27:24):
husband and all those things.

Speaker 2 (02:27:26):
How about for you, CJ. Most influential people that have
been in your life?

Speaker 7 (02:27:30):
Take it?

Speaker 2 (02:27:31):
What a great opportunity to really talk Hylelier, your mom
and dad.

Speaker 7 (02:27:34):
Yeah, for sure, it's it's I'm so young, Like if
you asked me this in ten years, is probably going
to be Marcus Freeman and Geno Goodooley and a bunch
of these people that are here. But in the you know,
growing up, and it's definitely my parents and my family
and the people who my brother who have you know,

(02:27:55):
been with me throughout my whole life and pushed me
to be the best version of myself and and sacrifice
so much for me. And yeah, so my parents are
for sure the biggest two people in my life.

Speaker 1 (02:28:09):
Do you do you say media classes at Nordhi.

Speaker 7 (02:28:13):
Miss Katie's kind of the media specialist.

Speaker 1 (02:28:15):
Yeah, I'll be honest, you brother, you are well polished.
Like everything you're saying, I'm like, I feel like i'm
a GM evaluating this cat right now. I'm seeing no flaws.
He wants to have fun a little bit, but he's
also like the main thing, the main thing. That's good
job Katie, that's great. Work avoids social avoids the social life.
Doesn't want to talk about the love life. There may be,

(02:28:36):
there may not be. Who really knows, Keep them guessing.

Speaker 7 (02:28:42):
I would like it.

Speaker 2 (02:28:43):
How often do you get a haircut?

Speaker 7 (02:28:46):
How as often as I need?

Speaker 2 (02:28:48):
So, how what's the what's the weekly what's the weekly cadence?

Speaker 13 (02:28:51):
It would be once a week, but if I got
a couple obligations during the week, then it.

Speaker 7 (02:28:58):
Might be twice a week.

Speaker 1 (02:29:00):
No, twice a week.

Speaker 7 (02:29:02):
Not off. It's like, how long do I need it?

Speaker 13 (02:29:04):
I'm gonna like, I had a haircut it two days ago,
so for today, I was like, I don't need to
get a haircut.

Speaker 7 (02:29:09):
But if this was tomorrow, I might get a haircut, you.

Speaker 2 (02:29:12):
Know, maintain that skin.

Speaker 13 (02:29:14):
You know it is, man, it can be nice. Yeah,
I got speed dial.

Speaker 2 (02:29:20):
That's your guy.

Speaker 13 (02:29:21):
Yeah, you guys gotta next time you come back.

Speaker 7 (02:29:23):
That's kind of part of the Notre Dame experience, Like, yeah,
you have to, that's part of it.

Speaker 1 (02:29:26):
Yeah, I'm just not a fade guy.

Speaker 7 (02:29:29):
You can do any.

Speaker 1 (02:29:31):
Haircut my hair out until you can. Yeah, just just
keep it a little shorter. Something to to play with.
Call it a day.

Speaker 7 (02:29:41):
Used to be long, didn't it?

Speaker 1 (02:29:43):
I went through a stint something about a guy that's
three fifteen though with long hair, it's tough. Look, but
it really goes back to the helmet. Get a little
bit flutter in the back. It makes you feel good.
Start running real fast and you're gonna fly away. Like
that's kind of what you want, you know, I don't
what you need. Who's your best friend on the team?

Speaker 7 (02:29:58):
C Jay, Jack Larsh and Sean Savlana on my two If.

Speaker 2 (02:30:02):
You have to pick one, who would be not doing that?

Speaker 7 (02:30:05):
That's you have to pick.

Speaker 2 (02:30:08):
If you don't pick one, they both gone.

Speaker 7 (02:30:11):
They both go, yeah, I can't pick one. Who's your
favorite offensive lineman on the team. I don't want to
answer that either. They're all my favorite. I love them all.
You don't pick one, they all they're all going Max Anderson. Okay, okay,
fair enough.

Speaker 1 (02:30:24):
Do you do you give gifts like and of the
Year Christmas gifts to your offensive line?

Speaker 7 (02:30:29):
Okay, you're an offensive lineman. What would you want? Like?

Speaker 1 (02:30:32):
That's it's not about wanting something, it's about like how
much effort did.

Speaker 7 (02:30:36):
I guy pay? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:30:37):
Okay, like I look at like Joe Burrow got his
boys Katana.

Speaker 7 (02:30:40):
Those were crazy sick. Those were sick like swords samurai
sw Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:30:45):
Cultural. Do guys on the team have a golf cart
to get around like their own?

Speaker 14 (02:30:51):
No?

Speaker 7 (02:30:51):
I have a golf cart?

Speaker 6 (02:30:52):
You do?

Speaker 7 (02:30:53):
Do you class? We don't drive to class. It's more
like when my parents are are in town, they get
drive up and pick us up and right there.

Speaker 1 (02:31:02):
Perfect, that's actually come and visit. Let's play this game.
If someone got you a gift and you could paint
the gift. What gift would you want?

Speaker 7 (02:31:12):
Just? Quality time with my friends? Probably that's your love language. QT.

Speaker 1 (02:31:16):
You like qt that?

Speaker 7 (02:31:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:31:22):
Is that your love language?

Speaker 7 (02:31:23):
Yeah? With my with my offensive lineman for sure? Yea.

Speaker 1 (02:31:29):
You know, I think be a nice gift pads My
dad would get him two seedar bikes. Oh that's what
I said, right, and budding them up get him like
a dustry, like some alterin tires. Could you imagine just
a couple of hogs that would be all right? Now,
that would a couple of crazy bikes in the summertime,
that would be awesome. Yeah, well, yeah, I had a

(02:31:51):
two seater bike in college like that solo sometimes.

Speaker 2 (02:31:53):
Yeah. Who would you have on the back most of
the time?

Speaker 1 (02:31:55):
Graham Glasgow? Okay, yeah, he was always my my guy.
I'd be I chop at Target. I'd have the five
and a half in seem shorts with the tank top
and I a door on up there.

Speaker 2 (02:32:08):
This one comes from boolioh. When is Notre Dame releasing
the Freeman collection, he will know what that means.

Speaker 7 (02:32:15):
I'd like to know that. No, I don't listen, I
don't have input on hang on.

Speaker 2 (02:32:20):
Time out though, when Boo Leo's asking this and says
he will know what that means? What does he mean
by saying And.

Speaker 1 (02:32:26):
You can just tell by Coach's body language like he
clearly knows what that means.

Speaker 2 (02:32:29):
Is there some lure out there of a Freeman collection?

Speaker 13 (02:32:32):
Listen, I wear what they put in my locker. Sometimes
what they put my locker is not out in stores,
but that doesn't determine if I'm gonna wear it or not.
And so we just got encouraged him to put more
things in my locker that are going to be in stores.
That's the that's the way to answer that.

Speaker 1 (02:32:49):
What Notre Dame should do is drops, Like you have
something that's not in stores, you wear for game day,
and it's dropped for that week. Collection. Each week goes
by like shit, we're.

Speaker 7 (02:32:59):
A couple ups ahead. But head, Oh, so you.

Speaker 2 (02:33:02):
Didn't know what he was talking about.

Speaker 7 (02:33:06):
About. Okay, he likes.

Speaker 2 (02:33:08):
The exclusive clothing. Haircut twice a week.

Speaker 1 (02:33:12):
Twice a week is nuts? Yeah, on Tuesdays, maintenance ahead, coach, No.

Speaker 7 (02:33:22):
I got to put the barbershop to use.

Speaker 1 (02:33:24):
Before before you ask the next question, who's the most
stylish guy on the team?

Speaker 7 (02:33:28):
Don's up there? I say who else? Kingston? Kingston has
got some Leonard Moore Leonard for sure? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:33:38):
What about you? What are you rocking on game day?
Do you have like do you lay out the fits?

Speaker 5 (02:33:41):
No?

Speaker 7 (02:33:42):
I was bad my freshman year. I kept forgetting my
suits at home. I just like, yeah, do you have
to wear a suit for the player walks here, we
usually wear suits. If not, it's it's just uh, it's
just like a sweatsuit.

Speaker 1 (02:33:54):
Now does notre dame supply?

Speaker 2 (02:33:56):
Okay, yeah, it would happen if guys are forgetting.

Speaker 7 (02:33:59):
Their suit sports go.

Speaker 2 (02:34:00):
Yeah, what would happen if guys are forgetting their suit
for the walks?

Speaker 7 (02:34:07):
What? I just wore my uh like the travel suit
pants with it. Yeah, he didn't have his pants. Yeah, oh,
you didn't even have a jacket. I had the jacket,
So I put the jacket. We listen, we I shouldn't
even say this, but we bring we make them turn
their jackets in and so we bring them to the
hotel in case they forget him. But he didn't have pants,
So I said, just wear your your travel sweatpants. Like

(02:34:27):
you're gonna look like an idiot, But that's what you
get for forgetting your suit, you know, And so that's
what he had to do.

Speaker 1 (02:34:32):
You just focused on ball man, Yeah, you know, worried
about what you look like. Delivery the area was red
shirt anyway. Oh yeah you weren't. Okay at the linebacker.

Speaker 2 (02:34:44):
I got some good ones here from Parker Hockey Worst
Recruiting story in your career.

Speaker 13 (02:34:51):
Oh, I remember I was at Cincinnati when we were recruiting.
His kid named Tank something, I can't remember his last name,
and the head of our recruiting had this great idea like, hey,
you should dress up in military fatigues a big like
military hat, like a big hard hat, and I did.

(02:35:11):
It was a vest and I was like, all right, man.
And so I'm sitting in this military outfit. I'm sure
there's pictures of it, and this kid, Tank walks, what's up, Tank?
And He's like, what are you wearing? And I'm like,
this is for you. He ends up, He ends up
going to uh. I think he's going to Maryland and
he went somewhere. He didn't come to Cincinnati. And I'm like,

(02:35:32):
never again.

Speaker 7 (02:35:32):
And I ever.

Speaker 2 (02:35:35):
That was you?

Speaker 1 (02:35:35):
Is that outfit that did it?

Speaker 7 (02:35:37):
No? Yeah, I probably probly thought.

Speaker 13 (02:35:38):
I was like this weird dude, like I'm not coming
to play for him. But that was the last time
I dressed up.

Speaker 7 (02:35:43):
CEG.

Speaker 2 (02:35:44):
Did you ever have a coach try to recruit you
and do something crazy without saying names or team. You
can say names or teams if you want.

Speaker 5 (02:35:52):
Now.

Speaker 7 (02:35:53):
I had a pretty normal recruiting process people really didn't
recruit me a bunch. I think a lot of people
just thought I was gonna go to Michigan in and
so I didn't have many crazy recruiting stories like that,
and these guys recruited me really hard. But yeah, it
was pretty pretty boring any.

Speaker 2 (02:36:11):
Any team or a staff member do something like above
and beyond. It made you kind of like chuckle about
I think this could be a little o D. I
do love and appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (02:36:21):
When, uh, when Tommy Reese was was here, he recruited me.
He was my main recruiter, and when I committed, this
definitely didn't He texted me a video of the fire
alarm going off in the goog and like made it
sound like they pulled it when I committed, and it
was like the car alarm there. And at the time

(02:36:42):
I was like, oh, that's the coolest thing ever. But
like looking back, that definitely wasn't. Definitely just like it
just happened. So that was that was pretty cool that uh,
that that happened. I thought that was special.

Speaker 2 (02:36:54):
I love the game of recruiting, man, whatever it takes,
whatever it takes, you have to put a g I
Joe alf.

Speaker 7 (02:37:03):
What's in there, buddy.

Speaker 2 (02:37:05):
If they were to make a Marcus Freeman movie, what
actor would play you? Vince Vaughn.

Speaker 13 (02:37:11):
I've always said the rock like the rock, Yeah, because
I mean white skin dude.

Speaker 7 (02:37:17):
But he's like, you.

Speaker 1 (02:37:20):
Know what I mean, Like that's tell us, that's why
because you're kind of he's like, you know, he's probably
the most fit coach. Would you think you're the most
in shape head coach in college football?

Speaker 12 (02:37:31):
No?

Speaker 7 (02:37:31):
I don't know. I don't know the new coach Ad Michigan.

Speaker 2 (02:37:34):
I said, like he's sixty five am.

Speaker 7 (02:37:38):
They say he's strong now I heard some stories.

Speaker 1 (02:37:40):
I heard the same thing. Yeah, he's a really strong man.
I don't know, man, who'd play you in a movie?

Speaker 7 (02:37:46):
That's fun? I've heard the guy from Outer Banks, Raf Cameron.
I don't know his his real name. By they say, I.

Speaker 2 (02:37:54):
Look like that? Is that a good? Is that a good?

Speaker 7 (02:37:56):
Compared? Who could do me? Who? You didn't? You didn't
give me any input? Who could rock? He's too dark?

Speaker 1 (02:38:06):
Yeah, but I'm trying to think of the rock with
these felt Yeah, I'm not like back when I played
big Oh yeah I saw the neck in that photo.

Speaker 7 (02:38:14):
Yeah, like you, I'll take Oscar I'll take it. I'll
take it. Shout out Michael B.

Speaker 2 (02:38:21):
Jordan, Jason Statha. Well you can see that right. It
isn't Jesus dating like fifty six. Yeah, but still like
movie stars yea, bad as movie star yea. Yeah, I
feel you.

Speaker 7 (02:38:34):
I'm with that. Let's see here, is this the last squark?
That's that's it.

Speaker 2 (02:38:40):
We can go as long as you want.

Speaker 7 (02:38:42):
Is there.

Speaker 2 (02:38:45):
You wrestled growing up? Is there a coach in the
country you think we'd be able to step on the
mat with you.

Speaker 7 (02:38:53):
Wrestling?

Speaker 2 (02:38:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (02:38:55):
Yeah, Luke Figger one night he won three for state
championships and he even wrestled in college. I know he
can wrestle, you know what I mean? Yeah, I didn't
wrestle with that level, and so I'm I believe.

Speaker 2 (02:39:11):
You guys had You guys have had a couple of
wrestling matches.

Speaker 13 (02:39:14):
Nice maybe, you know, but I've learned, even with my son,
like you, gotta be smart, I refuse to lose. I'm
gonna pick and choose the right battles. I don't want
to wrestle my son, but I'll hand fight with him
a little bit and do stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (02:39:28):
You know, you're just in a Hallway or something. Though,
it's not gonna go anything further than because I'll get
like scrap. He takes me down, like I'm gonna really
get bad. We don't want that have to happen at
the Freeman House. That might be why the Little Best
shuffle Board, Yeah, that's my movie. Why it's a little
It's a little Yeah. I was really the foundation playing

(02:39:49):
Has everyone safe in here? Is what I was worried about.

Speaker 1 (02:39:54):
Why has it Notre Dame entered a conference and has
there been a conversation about that?

Speaker 2 (02:40:01):
Really, listen, that's.

Speaker 7 (02:40:05):
That's why it happened.

Speaker 1 (02:40:07):
Here's what I Here's why I break it up. One,
that's a great question. But two, the haters, they're one
of their big remarks about not making the playoffs, like, well,
if you guys were in a conference, X, Y, and Z,
what happened, you'd have the opportunity because you'd be in
a power for conference.

Speaker 7 (02:40:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:40:23):
I think there's there's advantages to being in conference and
there's advantages not being in a conference.

Speaker 7 (02:40:29):
There's a lot.

Speaker 13 (02:40:29):
Of of positive things that, trust me, that nobody was
complaining about when we made the playoffs the year before,
right and the independence we look at it as a
positive right.

Speaker 7 (02:40:42):
And if there's a listen, we lost two games and
it make playoffs.

Speaker 13 (02:40:47):
And so if our administration ever feels like we are
truly at a competitive disadvantage by not being in a conference,
I'm sure that we'll join a conference.

Speaker 7 (02:40:58):
But we're just.

Speaker 1 (02:41:02):
You shouldn't lost two games. It's a great answer question
he did. He hated everything about it the whole time
he's answering the question. I can just feel like Katie
being like, we're gonna cut the We're not, We're not
doing that question.

Speaker 2 (02:41:15):
Who's the tall guy? What's his name? Again?

Speaker 1 (02:41:16):
Yeah, make sure he can't come.

Speaker 7 (02:41:20):
The thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:41:22):
We asked everybody this question on the podcast, and that
question is CJ will start with you boys.

Speaker 1 (02:41:29):
We all know we do anything for an ice school
bud light. We're about to ask Marcus Freeman, well he
would do anything.

Speaker 2 (02:41:34):
For What would you do anything for? Family? Can't say?

Speaker 7 (02:41:41):
I know, all right?

Speaker 2 (02:41:42):
Can be an ambition.

Speaker 1 (02:41:45):
We had a guy on who was this who was
the tight end that said he wanted a nice steak
dinner brought Bowers said nice nice day. Luke Combe said.

Speaker 2 (02:41:53):
Fight Belott the sandwich super Bowl. So what's something you
would do anything for I can't say family.

Speaker 7 (02:42:03):
M m.

Speaker 1 (02:42:05):
Mmm win a national championship, that's the answer, right, would
you do anything for that?

Speaker 7 (02:42:12):
Anything? Anything? I bet you would anything. I don't anything.

Speaker 1 (02:42:17):
You would literally do anything for a national championship, like
other than hurt my family, but other than hurt your family.

Speaker 7 (02:42:23):
I mean like.

Speaker 1 (02:42:26):
Like, hey, like we see the banners, those dates go
like you guys have been there a few times. We
just can't get over the hump. Like Marcus Freeman, would
you do anything besides your family anything for a national championship?

Speaker 2 (02:42:38):
Same for uc JA? Yeah, hell yeah, all right you would.
I don't feel like you would anything?

Speaker 7 (02:42:47):
How bad? Right do you guys?

Speaker 2 (02:42:54):
What do you call him?

Speaker 1 (02:42:55):
All right, boys, real quick breaking the show. Just want
to let you know that these hats uncle hats are
now availed well at BWTB dot com. Comes in this
black and white and a multitude of other colors. Let's
get back to this episode. So Clump just asked you.
You mentioned the moms, but you have so many guys
on the team that are sons of NFL players. How
do you handle all that?

Speaker 13 (02:43:15):
Wes' just because their dad's playing in the NFL don't mean
the moms don't help make the decision.

Speaker 7 (02:43:20):
I'll start with that.

Speaker 13 (02:43:21):
But it started with the couple guys that their dad's
played at Notre Dame that played in the NFL. The
Bettics Flanagan, Brian Young, his son Bryce, and and I
remember having a meeting scene if I can't convince you
three to choose Notre Dame when your dad's your fathers

(02:43:42):
are the greatest example of what Notre Dame represents in
terms of in football and beyond. Then I said, we're
gonna struggle with Notre Dame, and I can't recruit if
we can't convention. Those three started it, and then you know,
Jordan Clark, Ryan Clark's son came, and then you got
the Elijah Burris whose dad is Blaxico burs And and
then this year we got Cayden Finley, we got Devin Fitzgerald,

(02:44:05):
and I'm missing one. Thomas Davis already got the Bettest.
You say, yeah, So I say that because now I
think there's there might be some parallels right that they say, Okay,
guys that have grown up like me, uh that that
are at Notre Dame. But here's the other thing I

(02:44:26):
think they see every day with their fathers that the
game of football ends. And that's a big thing we
sell here, is like we're gonna get you to as
high as your God given ability can take you. Right,
I know you guys have as versus being pro football
hall of famers. If that's how good your talent is,
We're going to develop you. And you got as great
as an opportunity to do it here as anywhere else

(02:44:48):
but Notre Dame. The education prepares you for life after
football too, and you see it with your own eyes
with your fathers, like the game ends. And so I
think they understand that because they see the life after.

Speaker 7 (02:45:00):
The game of football and with their fathers.

Speaker 2 (02:45:04):
I love it. Yeah, same fellows, anything else, ke have
you got a question questions? You've been an incredible by
the way, incredible host. He should get a raise, and
so is the same with the ladies everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:45:18):
You guys have been incredible. We've been with keV the
whole time. Kevi probably needs to raise. Talking about a guys,
guy you know, really bought into Notre Dame. You know
his grandfather went got his what masters here both n
B A huh undergrad grad.

Speaker 7 (02:45:38):
So as long as I've known, you never told me that.
I told you that that. Guys.

Speaker 1 (02:45:46):
Guy, guys, guy, all right, let's talk about action items,
c J. We need to get real gifts for the
boys this year, all right. I think the first thing
on the listening would be a two seater bike. I
still like the golf carts for the families, and golf
carts are great. Something fun me about a two seater though,
there's you gotta think about the social ass.

Speaker 7 (02:46:03):
Do you have to get everyone a two seater? Do
you think you've split it in half in everyone, or
like there's a two seater for two guys.

Speaker 2 (02:46:09):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (02:46:10):
I think you get two seaters for like each two
guys one bite, and then you embroider on the seats
there last night, just their number. Okay, so I know
who's front seats in his back seats.

Speaker 2 (02:46:23):
That's good. Yeah, all right, anything else, no, dude, thank
you for hosting us is truly it's been amazing, Like
keV you all you guys, putting us through the ringer,
waking up at five forty five workouts, meetings, class, finally
getting some you know, some grub. That's that's that's they

(02:46:45):
take care of you. They take care of you. That
was more than listen. It has been an inside joke.

Speaker 1 (02:46:51):
Yeah, a little shuffle boarding over your house, a little
knockout slash bump out.

Speaker 2 (02:46:56):
Yeah. Getting to interact with the players too, like coming
over your house, you having all the guys over, and
then you just felt like you just felt all the relationships,
like while we're on the field, like interacting. You wanted
us to be referees and everything else. Like, dude, it
was a great trip and we really appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (02:47:10):
I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:47:11):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:47:11):
This has been good. It's been more than what I expected.
I don't know how high I set the bar, but
that's the key happiness in life. Those love if it's low.
That's actually went way better. I thought we will be back.
You kind of like open the door for us. At
this point, it's like we're just gonna keep coming back.

Speaker 2 (02:47:27):
And a couple of people said, hey, anything you need,
so we will right. You know, one thing we need
is the jerseys. Oh yeah, but it sounds like he's
already signed out. Kevin made it seem like it was
his call. He made it seem like, hey, if it
was my call, So we're good, keV. We'll talk after.
We'll wrap it up. We'll talk after. We'll see you

(02:47:47):
guys in the fall.

Speaker 7 (02:47:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:47:48):
Good luck, yeah, good luck this year.

Speaker 7 (02:47:51):
I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:47:52):
Go Irish. I'm kidding, go Irish. Well, come on, guys,
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