Living A Life of Entrepreneurship with Actress, Playboy Model, & Mental Health Advocate, Annine Unger!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(01:05):
number one roll of money always is that your health
is your wealth. You cannot be wealthy if you're not
truly healthy. That's why I talk about healthcare, guys. That
is so important, as you guys know. Right now they
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sent you, and they'll take good care of you. You guys,
I'm a little tongue tied because I got somebody in

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the house that I've been very excited to interview with.
Somebody that I've met at another trade show that we'll
probably talk about. But I saw this person. I looked
her up on Instagram. Actually I stalked her Instagram. Learn
it every day. I goddamn picture. And it's somebody that
from an entrepreneurial stand point, you guys know, financial Fridays,
that's the thing I want to inspire you guys. You
got to have a side hustle. You can't just depend
on one source of income. I thought, what a better

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person to bring on the show, you guys. She's not
just a former playbab model or current playboy model. She's
an actress, mental health advocate, she has her own skincare line.
I could go on and on and on. At the
end of the day, she's a lifelong entrepreneur. That's why
she's a lifelong friend of the show. Welcome to the show,
miss Anine Ungern.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
Tony the investor, I love you, Thank you so much. Yeah,
you always got to have a side hustle because you
never know when one thing will break.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
You gotta have you gotta have a couple.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
You gotta have a couple. And you got more than
a couple of my friend, yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
Like four or five or six or seven.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah. Yeah, And you know, I knew we were dealing
with the boss because I thought, you know, she kind
of played it low key, and usually we have a
booking manager that'll reach out. But because we'd met at
mj Biscon, which was the largest cannabis convention in North America.
If I'm not mistaken, it was about a month or
so ago during the holidays. But you know, your damn
near thirty forty fifty thousand people at roll through this
thing and you just connect with somebody. I saw her

(03:03):
for a few minutes and I said, oh, you know,
we got to get you on the show. And here
you are, so welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
Thank you. You know, a good thing when you see it.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
I like, you sure do you? Sure do it? I
know this staff was excited to have you, and you've
been so gracious just given us tips. Your media team
has already you know, helped us, as you know. You know,
we've got a big issue with being Shadow Band, obviously
the name and the platform that we're on, but we've
been fortunate to be on iHeartRadio where we're not being
censored as it is. So it's one of the things
that I just love talking to people that obviously, I

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mean you're a social media queen, your contents fired? Do
you create the majority of your own content?

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Yes, you know, I definitely have to give a shout
out to the reality TV show the new OC now
called Billboard Inc. They kind of like helped me realize
like how videography is done and how you can just
kind of grab your own videographers and work with them
and create a team. So I have a team called
Team and Neen. I just wrapped up my fourth episode

(03:57):
with Billboard Inc. Where we're selling Billboard people on billboards
all across the world, and that was like a talent agency.
I'm more of like a like a face in the spokesperson.
So I wrap that up. But yeah, you know, I
always tell people you have to have multiple streams because
you never know when something's.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
Going to drop.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
It's tell me more about this reality show? Is that?
Is that really what you're hyper focused on me? And again,
I know you've got a lot of things going on.
You have your own skin care line, but the reality
show is something that I was looking up on and
obviously it hasn't been released yet, so I didn't find
that much out.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
There where we funded our own production for that show,
where they're still funding production for that show. So we
used billboards to fund the production, and it was like
forty grand a month wow to fund production. So I'm
not funding that production anymore, so I'm able to save
some money and focus more on my medical aesthetics. But
they were definitely like your original question, like, you know,

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how have I been able to have this whole team
and be around all these videographers. I've been dancing since
I was three, and then I became a pro dancer
at nine, so I I've always been on stage, and.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
What are some productions that people would know at home?

Speaker 6 (05:04):
I was in the Nutcracker age nine.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
I had my own agent, Cuttingham and Escott Tapini at
age ten.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
I had my first commercial. When I was eleven.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
I was a little Miss Southern California, and then I
decided to go to underground hip hop shows with and
follow b real Q, Tip Fife Dog. I went to
Narnia with Pasqual and I'm at thirteen years old and
I kind of dropped out of like the corporate vibes
of things. So that's why I like this as well,

(05:31):
because it's like, you know, you got to be able
to brand yourself and not climb the ladders of everything
else in life, because just like everybody knows, you can
fucking get knocked off.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
No, And I appreciate you saying that in one of
the analogies that I love talking about. You know, the
windshield that's ahead of you is a lot bigger than
the reary mid shield right, or the rear mirror. And
for you, obviously, playboys are ward that everybody's familiar with,
and I don't want to hyper focus on that, but
how did you go from the nutcracker to playboy? And
then when did you transition out of that?

Speaker 5 (05:57):
I smoke too much weed, no, you know, to be
honest with you, it was I ended up leaving my
house a little bit because my mom was going through
like a divorce, and so I started just going to
raves and so how.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
It went down.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
And so I went from just like super classically trained
ballerina going to Katilian Catholic Italian going to church to
going to raves and experimenting with different psychedelics and listening
to immortal technique and be real and fucking far side.
And I'm gosh, I mean just like old school ugly duckling,
like the way promoting with Pascual the first, like before

(06:37):
even d C.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
Yeah, like I was with Pascal before ADC.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
You guys were passing out flowers. That's definitely before because
he'd already hit it big by that.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
Yeah, the Vanguard, he was still just doing.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
I think it was I can't remember what the name
of the club was, but it was at the Vanguard
drum and Base. If you're in the drum and based scene,
you fucking know pass well. Yeah, if you've been, If
you went to Narnia and you went to Juju Beats,
you went to all those illegal raves that they would
throw on mountains and take over Indian reservation, we were probably.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
At the same events many many times. I think that's
how we recognize each other.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
We're two revolutionaries.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
I love it. Now, How did you then get discovered
by Playboy?

Speaker 5 (07:14):
So that you know, I definitely have to give a
shout out to my girl Olga from the TV show
The New OC that I just wrapped with Billboard, Inc.
She showed she said, you got what it takes, and
she showed me how to get in and she introduced
me to the people and I was able to persuade
them into picking me as a giving my shot. Yeah,

(07:35):
and they picked me for New Zealand and I still
called myself Orange County's finest all the way fucking from
New Zealand, Yeah, because I'm from.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Playboy had a New Zealand issue, if you will, or
like a regional issue. I wasn't aware of that.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
Yeah, Playboy is still working with every country.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Wow, so you can go.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
You could be Playboy India and be a white woman
if they pick you.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
Yeah, if they pick you.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
And then how long were you in that world? Did
you really get submerged into the see yes it is
or did you bounce in and out and use it
as a platform to go into what you're doing?

Speaker 6 (08:04):
Use it as a platform one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
And you know, I'd never judge. I never look at
somebody like you should have done this, you should in that.
But I've noticed that people stayed in too long. They
do ended up a little bit more jaded. They don't
end up in the entrepreneur world, and they get caught
of a in a rat race trap, and then it
just becomes well, now am I doing OnlyFans? And now
am I doing porn? Or now am I going back
to the strip clubs? Would you agree with that, I mean,
I think that's a generalization.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
One hundred percent true.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yeah, it is one hundred percent you As a woman
in the industry, I always recommend women to try not
to drink too much if you're being a professional when
you're you know, on.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
Video set or anything.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
And as a woman it's hard not to be on
only fans because of the entrepreneurship. So you see these
girls making two hundred fifty thousand dollars a month, but
their videos of them doing all that kind of stuff
is going to be all over the internet. So I've
gone on and off only fans so many times, and
thank god, it was because my family told me to,
and then also because of my medical career. So you know,

(08:59):
it's it's it's it's interesting as a woman because there
is so much money to be made in it. But
the second you do that, you know, you go into
I mean, before Playboy dabbled and only fans because I
was touring with people like Bishop gon Laan and Snoop
and you know, so what I thought was kind of like, you.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Know, the thing to do, the pinnacle of what you
could potentially do.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
This isn't worth it. I was doing videos and I
saw my puppy. I love puppies. They have so many
puppies on this set, and my little Pomski was looking
at me, and I'm like, tworking by myself, you know
what I mean, And my puppy is looking at me,
and I'm like, oh my god, my mom would kill me.
And so it's it's definitely a situation where I tell
girls like I make stripper money without having to be
a stripper.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
I love that. That should that should be a new
slogan for one of the merches or shirts or something.
Because I heard you say that back there. It resonates
with everybody. Yeah. I look at all the only fans
on what it's created, and I again, I have more
empowered to them. I'm part of me is probably envious.
I'd love to make quarter million dollars, you know, in
front of my dog.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
If you're a freak, go on there and make your money.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
If you're a free yeah, But if you're not, and
you're going on there to make money just because it's
for the money and it's ruining your soul, get the
fuck off, yeah, you know, or think about it, Yeah,
but dabble, but don't put your heart and soul into
something and then end up losing it.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
No, And that's a great transition in the sense that
you know, I get approached by dozens and dozens of
great gals and their former playmates or only fans, and
they got a great social but then there's nothing else,
and it's like, great, well, I'm not you know, I'm
not only jumpers. I don't want to just bring on
girls that are hot that have a great hustle story.
But what you've done subsequent to that is the reason
I invited you on the show. You and I appreciate

(10:33):
you letting me talk about the Playboy, but the focus
that I love to talk about is your entrepreneurial spirit. Yeah,
and what that can do for somebody listening at home,
whether you're a guy or a girl. You're young, you'er
y're old. The things that you're doing have so many
verticals and it matches the uh if you will. What
I try to tell everybody right now is what we
saw happened four years ago, where it doesn't matter what
you did. The whole world shut down and you could

(10:54):
have been anything outside of a first responder or a
medical person, and all of a sudden, you don't have income,
and if that shit can and happen, Believe me, I've
seen enough in my life that just when you think
you're at the top of the world, the force of
average hits and boom, you know, the life just changes.
So having multiple sources of revenue with AI coming out,
there's going to be fifty percent of the jobs out
there are going to be eliminated. Unfortunately, my entire crew,

(11:15):
who I love, my biggest passion to them right now
is to get them into real estate. You know, my
prod producer Daniel, you know our engineer Connor. These young kids,
like these jobs will be obsolete with AI in five years.
You know, it's all going to be automated. It's all.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
They're going to find a step to stay ahead of it.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
The way well hope they will, absolutely, And that's that's
my job. I feel paying it forward is instilling it
in the future because I've seen some shit just like
you have. And so you see the vision of giving
yourself a shop by having multiple streams of income. So
after you left that world, what was your first fora
into entrepreneurial ship, So, you know.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Being a professional dancer and being around people like be
real baby Bash Snoop, growing up and being in the
Nutcracker and then having my first commercial ten, you see
that there's money in numbers, right, So like a huge
audience and like you know, like you look at the Kardashians,
like if you take or your followers, if you have
one point two million followers and you can take five
cents from every follower you have, think of the fucking

(12:14):
money you're making and then the residual incomes.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
When I did get my sack.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Card, when I worked with Jim Belushi and Dan Akroyd
and I started getting my sack card, and I got
my first check for like three thousand dollars and I
didn't even have a line. And then you know, Tom
Cruise went from mopping floors and he learned the person's
line and he wasn't even actor and the guy was
late and he went in and now he's twenty million
dollars a picture. But so I saw a real entrepreneurship

(12:37):
from that. But that pressure of being in the industry,
I had some cracking moments. So when that happened, what
it is I look towards my mother and my mother
was a sthetician and she makes three hundred and twenty
five dollars an hour at a minimum, And so I said,
you know, if that's what I said, fuck it, I
don't even need to necessary Like I love what I do,

(12:58):
but you don't necessarily even need to care at that point.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
You just you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
And that's why it's a lot of people go in too,
only fans, but the second you see it's not right
where you get the out.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
But that was a big turning point was my mother
and seeing her independent.

Speaker 6 (13:12):
She made more money than both of her husbands and
left them both.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Wow. Is she still alive? Yes, yes, yes, you guys
are close. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
So she owns her spaw and Laguna Beach.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
I have Anina's Aesthetics in Aliso Viejo in Newport and
another location in Newport. But I dabble and I helped
promote a lot of met spalls. But I do have
my own website and things like that, and that was
all learned by her.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, that was one of the challenges I had with
you when I you know, for the past month or so,
I've been watching your stories and there's so much that
you're doing. I know, people, I was like, God dang,
We're gonna have to do a three part show because
I could just you know, hyper focus on the health
aspect of it, or the aesthetics aspect of it, or
the reality show aspect of it. But you know, right now,
with all the different verticals that you have, with all

(13:53):
the different pots that you have your hands in, which
one do you have the most.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
Passion for mental health? Mental health health?

Speaker 5 (14:00):
And right now for me currently, like like I said,
I'm not drinking. My great uncle was Howard Hughes and
he lost like one hundred and forty nine billion dollars
to OCD and that is what I'm diagnosed with. And
I've struggled with it since I was a little girl.
I fell asleep with gum in my hair once and
my mom cut it out, and I kept cutting that
piece of hair for four or five years. I have

(14:21):
pictures of crowns with on my head, like big Beauty
Patrick Grounds with hair cut up because I didn't like
the way it was growing in or growing out. So
you know, that's why I'm really close with Brandon Novak,
who works on who worked on Jackass. You know, he
does recovery and stuff like that, So that's where my
passion lies.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
But it's true.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
You go on my Instagram and you'll see I have ADHD. Yeah, well,
I guess you're like, what the fuck is just doing
so many things.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
I'm gonna give you a line. I say, I don't
have ADHD, have eighty four K. I have eighty four K,
baby for I don't like labels. I don't like you know.
I feel like, you know, we can go off a
whole lot of the change. But yeah, I feel like
big pharma right now. It's like back when we were
young or you know, eighty Yes, some kids have it
and some kids you can just tell the kids like
lighting cat on fire and shit. But you look at

(15:06):
the highest performers. You're telling me Elon Musk doesn't have
eighty four K. The dude has nine different companies, nine
different verticals that are revolutionary. He's sleeps in his office, Yes, yes,
he does that, have that, But I feel like he
also has a due. I mean, you can't come up
with that much shit just being smart.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
No, no, no, And you've got to be a little
nuts to come up with that kind of shit.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yes, yeah, what I mean? I look at his superpower,
superpower it's a supers.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Now Kanye took it to another level because.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
He always does. He leaves some room for us.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Kanye, please, it's hard to get mad at him. I mean,
he says some stupid ass ship, but then I kind
of do relate with the stupidity, because when your brain's
going that fast, sometimes your mouth is working faster than
your brain is. But you got to have the wherewithals
kind of correct yourself when you know you're wrong. But
you know, I look at it and it's like, dude,
you know, I think there's a level. Yeah, you do
need METS, but I think there's a certain level for me.

(15:57):
I mean, I've tried it. I just didn't like the
way I fee. I feel like I was irritable. I
didn't like being dependent on a pill so that it
became like what you were saying. When I took a
break from drinking during seventy five hard for seventy five days,
I didn't drink. That fixed me for the most part,
and I was a little bit more calm. I was
less jittery, I was a little bit more focused, and
I felt great.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
So I give a diamond mine, though, Tony, I already
told you about.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
That yes, yes, we do. Yeah, no, I find that
for people that don't.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Know, diamond mine means when you are able to stay
consistent for a very long time, Like I know you
shared with me personally that you had like a time
where you weren't you know something, you lost everything, lost everything,
and you know, but you got back up and to
be consistent every single day here at the show. It's
called the diamond mine. So for me, I'm not on

(16:42):
any medication, and I'm supposed to be on psychmds, but
I choose not to be, even though I might meet
them again in my life.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
So it just depends.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
So to everybody out there, I just recommend you know,
ask for help, try everything, and see what works for
your life's journey. Not a destination. We're fucking living. This
is your first time here on this earth. Nobody else
has walked in your shoes, so don't judge yourself too hard.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
But it's a sign of success. I don't think anybody
that's truly successful just shot up top right. Everybody here
from Joe to Blue, I mean they all have. You know, obviously,
Joe's been in recovery for twenty five years and you
hear the stories he's had. You know, he could have
lost everything at one point. There could have been a
time when he hit a rock bottom and he could
have just chose to, you know, pack up his bags
and go. But they persevered. You hear some of blue stories.

(17:27):
I mean, you know, the dude just had a freaking
heart attack. You know, for him, it could have been
easy to say, hey, I want to retire. I'm gonna
let you guys take over. He's working harder now than
he did before, still showing up. I'm like, dude, just
take it easy. But it's it's hard for us, you know,
all of us, I think, have it to be at
a level of entrepreneurship. To be in entertainment, you've got
to have an element of some disorder. I mean, it's
not a there's two types of people. And I remember

(17:49):
I hired my cousin when I was in financial services,
and you know, there's a lot of money, but there's
a lot of grind in it. And one day it
was like eleven forty five am is about to be
neon or excuse me, it's right to be about one
pm is like a Thursday. We went to lunch and
there's these dudes with like ties and shirts like running.
And I said, do you see what they're doing? He said,
what I said, They're running because they got to be.
They're going to be late past our lunchtime. I said,

(18:09):
that's the difference between a guaranteed salary of four to
one K plan of healthcare and what the fuck we're doing?
Which choice do you want? Which path you want? That
doesn't mean entrepreneurship is for everybody, right, you know exactly,
But if that's the path you take, you got to
be ready for some It's a lonely world out there.
Some days you wake up and you just want not
want to leave the bed. And that was my biggest story.
That's when I knew I was dealing with some shit,

(18:30):
because I mean, and I talk about it because I
hope somebody listening it helps them. I'm listening. I still
talk about you know, it's not it's not something I
want to tell on a first date, I know, But
but I remember I just wouldn't leave the house for
like an entire week when showered, door, dash, fucking Denny's,
dunkin Donuts and McDonald's just getting fat?

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Did that last week?

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Because I just I just quit drinking. It's been like
nine weeks or something, so my mental health comes back.
I was on a mental health podcast yesterday and he
had to get on the phone with me and say,
get out of bed and.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
Come because I have those times. That's why I talk
to people.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
I'm like, you know, it looks like I'm super busy
and making crazy amounts of money, and I do. But
the thing is I have to show up to make
those money, but sometimes I put my mental health first.
You got to, because like you could just like lose
everything if you're just like robotting it out and it.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Will crash fucking hard. And it happened to me too.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
I was actually touring and being around like Snoop and
I was working with High Times and the girls were
parting their baby hairs the models, and I remembered how
I cut mine and I had an OCD breakdown and
I fucking lost everything.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Is is there a specific thing that triggers it or
it's random?

Speaker 5 (19:35):
Free I'm diagnosed with PTSD, body dysmorphia, OCD and ADHD.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
You got it all, Oh, I fucking I'm the alphabet.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
You hit the trifecto.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean and like you like you say,
you know, it's you got to have a little bit
of this disorder to kind of be okay to just
blurt out. And that's why Kanye is so famous because
he really doesn't have a fucking filter and I don't either.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, And you know, I think.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
That's why you sign an Anda's not here.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
I think that's what saves both of us though. And
I'm thankful for being on any kind of platform. Whe
I'm putting myself out there because when I disappear, people
reach out, you know, right when I mean, you're posting
thirty stories a day. If all of a sudden you
go quiet for three days, I'm like, yo, what's wrong exactly?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
You know?

Speaker 4 (20:16):
And it takes that and if that's the one thing
I always tell my friends, And you know, there's this
huge thing right now with like men being bad and
this and that, but men have a higher rate of suicide.
Men are lonely. Men don't fucking talk to their buddies.
You if you're going through some shit, you have five
girls so you can call dudes, don't do that, you know,
And that's something we got to break. And I think
there's so much we can go down a whole other
rabbit hole with that. But there's a stigma and it

(20:38):
sucks that they don't talk about it. But yeah, men
have it worse than so many categories, But then they're
being beat up in so many categories, which is demasculating
the men, which creates the fucking vicious cycle that gets
all these girls on OnlyFans and it just sucks, and
I wish most more people would talk about that. So
I appreciate you doing that now.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Yeah, I just went from one hundred and thirty six
fans to five because I literally was like, this is
not fucking worth it anybody seeing my shit. And once
I got sober, I literally like that was a huge
change for me, which I quit drinking. I also I
was like, what the fuck am I doing, you know
what I mean? And so, yeah, Playboy was just an
easy way for me. Not an easy it was. I
was very hard to get to Playboy, but it was

(21:15):
a way for me to like still be in the
center of attention and have my sexuality. But that's not
who I really am, right, you know what I mean?
And sometimes I think that's You're right. Like the media
and the world, it spins our brains into these little
rabbit holes and it's sex and I do see men,
you know, and I feel bad. I used to walk
out of my house and I had only fans, and

(21:35):
I'd feel about it for the wives because I didn't
know if maybe or the neighbors or even even to
say this, like because people that I used to grow
up with that were thirteen now eighteen were looking at
me like and I'm like, oh my.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
God, this is not it's not healthy.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yeah, yeah, no, And I applaud you on the on
the uh on taking a break from drinking. And if
you you know, Joe's a big you know, he has
so much passion, such a big heart. I'd encourage you
to exchange numbers with them. And he has some really
high level do you know one of my good friends,
Tommy Vex, he was justin Bieber's sober Coach for many
years and he's gone through some shit. One of my
favorite episodes I've done is interviewing him here and he

(22:10):
talks about, you know, he was cracked out and everything.
His brother kills him. He's literally his crackhead brother kills him.
He's dead on the thing he sees the light comes out,
and he's got a crazy story of how sobriety not
just saved him but multiple other people. And you know,
for each person that path is going to be different.
But I'm really proud of you and I appreciate you
bringing it up. I didn't know we're going to go
that direction, but those are the things I think.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Same Atmosphere the Rupper, he just gave me a shout
out on Instagram for being six weeks sober, like a
couple of weeks ago, and I fucking love.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
A shout out to that congression.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
I fucking love Atmosphere Slug and aunt Idea. We had
the producer playing delfon Deltron thirty thirty very good, So
I have to I have to give a shout out
to fucking Immortal Technique and Atmosphere Idea and Deltron for
helping me grow up with the right kind of mentality
when you are underground, because when your corporate we're talking

(23:00):
about all the time, you are going to be rushing
fucking to work and you are in you know, you
know Pinocchio and I literally couldn't have the strings because
of my mental health. So my actually my mental health
actually saved me. My mental health issues, my superpower saved me.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
And what I think I can do personally for you
is I know, for me, when I'm focused on business,
money and accountability, I don't have time to drink as much.
I don't have time to go out late, and I
don't have time to kind of pity party myself of
what you know, I'm lacking or my perceived sense of failures.
And you just met my parents here. You know, I
never had kids, they don't have any grandkids, and I
have these amazing parents. And Joe tells me, you know,

(23:36):
I'm just shocked that you have these amazing parents, and
you know, and if I'm like, that's the guilt I
deal with every day, you know, which then triggers into
me self, you know, punishing myself and all that shit.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
I'm not having kids.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Does your mom have any grandkids? Did you have any siblings?

Speaker 6 (23:49):
My me and my brother both aren't having kids, so
they'll le be done.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
But that's not even like and they don't even think
about it that way. They don't look at it. I do.
But I think for them it's like, well, you know,
I'm support. I'm tech support, right if their Apple phone
doesn't work, So they're thinking they're so selfless, who's going
to take care of him when he's our age? And
that's all there, and that's their sadness that I see
in their eyes right right. But that's my issue, and
that's that's my struggle.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
It's going to be taking care of Tony.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
I'll make sure, Sweetart, I promise.

Speaker 6 (24:18):
You, and so alive.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
But you know, we we spoke over there and we
were talking about business ideas. You're like, I don't you know,
I need somebody to talk to me from that standpoint.
I give you my word that anytime you call me
twenty four to seven, let's focus on building things. And
by building things, we're inspiring other people to get out
of bed, to deal with their issues, to get off
the meds if they don't need him, to get off
the alcohol and the drugs and stop self medicating, which

(24:40):
I do feel I do a lot of the time. Yeah,
but by you know, Joe doesn't know this, but a
lot of the times he's you know, he's playing his
meetings when he'll pick me up because we live close
to each other, and I get little nuggets from him
and it does inspire me to kind of think better,
go home earlier, and just kind of take those baby steps.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
So exactly, I had to hit rock bottom so Joe
would know anybody who know who has been through AA
like I have. I had five years clean from me.
I went to Phoenix House.

Speaker 6 (25:04):
Joe.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
Yeah, he's back there listening somewhere. But Joe, So, Joe's
always so.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Busy, it's so cool he doesn't listen. Joe.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
I went to Phoenix House.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
He's working on making your episode of the best episode
had a cigar. I love it.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
I went to Phoenix House when I was fifteen and
I went there for thirteen months. It was a psychotherapy
treatment that was court mandated. I did that and then
I stayed over on my own for five years. And
then when I was thirty and I had the breakdown
like my great uncle did, literally like an OCD breakdown.
I put myself into treatment and I had five years clean.
And then I had a surgery and my sponsor was like,

(25:44):
make sure you just take your prescription. And my mom,
she you know, she takes viket in for her pain,
and she was like, here, just take one more. I'm like, Mom,
I can't, like I'm in AA and just take one more.
And so I went to my meeting the next day,
They're like, you need to restart your time.

Speaker 6 (25:57):
I had five years and I said, fuck that. So
I ended up not going to AA.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
And once you stop going to AA, you you lose
those nuggets, yep. And so I've been white knuckling it
for like two years.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yeah. No, I think anything we can do to help
we obviously. Well, for those of you guys that don't
know who Howard Hughes is, I mean that's it's a
testament to some of this shit's hereditary, right Howard Hughes.
For if you guys seen the movie Aviator with Leo,
great fricking movie, but that movie's pretty dead accurate. This
dude was worth hundreds of billions of dollars. He started
Hughes Aircraft here and here in El Segundo and your

(26:27):
you know that's your uncle. But yes, I mean that
dude had it so bad that he wouldn't leave and
he was dating beautiful actresses. He was, you know, one
of the wealthiest men on the planet at that time,
and he lost it all because he you know, would
pissing bottles, he'd lock himself in a room for you know,
that movie is really dead accurate. I've done a lot
of background on him, so that's crazy that, you know,
when you said that, I couldn't believe it. So there

(26:48):
is some of that that I think is hereditary, has
nothing to do with entertainment or your background, but then
it can kind of snowballs, so you can. I'm glad
we did that. I didn't know we were going to
go through that direction, but I do feel like somebody
listening right now, we probably save someone's life or at
least inspired them to improve their own lives.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
Yeah, And to be honest with you, I had to
bring up that Howard Hughes was my uncle in order
for people to even respect the fact that I fucking
had to leave the tour because of OCD or I
can't go to work. And that's the reason why I
got my own business was because there's days I need
to take off, you know what I mean, and not
you know, like you know, people do have twenty three years.
One of my best friends, Matt McCroskey, who was the

(27:24):
manager of the Blasters, who's taking me to see Saint
Faris and when Stefani in your concert, he's got twenty
five years. And you know, I sometimes I look at
him with disdain, Like fucking twenty five years, you don't
know what it's like to relapse and be.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
Like, I'm like, I fucking relapse twice. And it's just
everybody's story is different. But keep on with the hope
and podcasts do help, and just yet to make sure
if you're listening, just to reach out for help. But
usually when people.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Are going to be honest and they're going through really
a hard struggle, they're not looking at podcasts or anything like,
they're really fucking going through it. So like the best
thing to do is just check yourself in somewhere.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Yeah, or if you're listening to this and you know
somebody that's going through that, identify that right because those
guys are listening. But yo, I haven't talked to Jimmy
in a long time. What's he doing?

Speaker 3 (28:07):
You know?

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Check it, check out to your friends. You mentioned entrepreneurship.
I want to transition into that when we come back
here on Financial Fridays. Well it's beautiful, I mean, bonger,
we're gonna come back with the Financial Friday five. Ladies
and gentlemen, we'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
We'll be right back with the Financial Friday five on
Cannabis Talk one on one's Financial Fridays with the Insider
Investor Tony K. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk, one on
one's Financial Fridays with the Insider Investor Tony K. It's

(28:41):
now time for the Financial Friday five.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
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(29:05):
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We are now back with a Nina Unger and I
love saying your last name. Am I saying that right?

Speaker 6 (29:16):
It's Unger, but it's Unger, it's from Hunger. Yeah, it's hunger.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yeah, yeah, that's the link of the extent of the
German accent that I have. But but we're back now
and you were thank you so much for being vulnerable
in that for a segment. And that's something that again,
you know this show, there's there's two goals, really to
help people give back for all the shit that I've
done in my life that I feel like, you know what,
twenty years I figured out how to buck shit up.

(29:41):
Let me now figure out and give you all the
lessons so you guys can instill that. And by having mentors,
I always say, like, you're you're expanding time. Excuse me,
you're compressing time, right, which should take you twenty years
to learn by talking to people, by putting yourself out there,
you're learning those shortcuts, if you will, right.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
So true, And so many people go through life without
looked on a mentor.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
You know, I look back and I just wish, like gosh,
I wish I had a mentor back when I first
got into financial services or even new more than just hustling,
you know, or just figuring out on my own. But
you know, I'm gonna put you through this financial question
five financial fight and five, as we call it. And
the reason I do this is you're going to answer
questions in certain ways that I think are just going
to open up more doors for us. And I love
doing this and I'm excited to hear your answers, So

(30:23):
I love it. First question is if the list was
right here, if if what's the best investment you ever made?

Speaker 6 (30:31):
I mean, Joe's gonna like this answer.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
I would say, my sobriety, yeah once I yeah, having
those ten years like five years and five years back
to back was the best investment because I had to
sit there and dig in well, you know, and it
gives me a toolbox in order to say, okay, only fans,
this is too much or okay you know. So yeah,

(30:57):
that's the first thing that comes from awesome. But if
I were to say, financially sure, Playboy, okay, you know,
all my red carpet events and all my even like
I toured with so many big names that you've seen here,
and you could look at my YouTube videos and see
how many people I've been on stage with and I
got my sad card and all this. So but right now, Playboy,

(31:18):
is it just it It puts you in a different
category yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
And people look at Playboy. You know, it's not like
you wake up one day and you're a play But
maybe that happens to hand it a cool or something.
But you know, you were, as I called Joe and Blue.
Here there thirty year overnight success story, right, thirty eight
years old. Right when you look at Playboy, it's not
just showing up getting the check. It's you put in
your time on the red carp or at free events.
You know these these free literally where you're just putting

(31:43):
in time. You and I were talking about that, and
then once you're on that platform, now everybody wants shit
for free from you. Hey just do this and I'll
give you this if you sell this or be a
spokesperson for that. And now you're kind of got this
uphill battle even though you got this trophy. Hey, I
was in playbook pay me, and now you've got to
prove yourself again and put in those dudes. So it
is an investment.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
It is an investment. And I do have to say
thank you to Billboard, Inc. The competition series, the reality
TV show that they showed me how to talk to
sponsors and how to let them know no, this is
not for free you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
And we're going to work on that too, because I
think you and I are going through similar struggles. Now
that I'm on a bigger platform than I was before,
everybody's reaching out. I was like, well listen, man, I'm
not a nonprofit right you know, well, I didn't know
it was pay to play. I'm like, really, are your
products free? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (32:25):
You know what percent it is?

Speaker 5 (32:28):
And you know, sometimes I give away free facials, like
talk about my So this is your place of work,
so like my place of work, there are times where
I give That's why I call you the Diamond Mind
because you're so consistent. You're at some point you do
probably bring on some people like the IB guests, but
people do have to pay to play.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
You know, how did these podcasts get ran? You know?
How do I keep the rent at my spall?

Speaker 5 (32:49):
There are times where I'll have my models, or I'll
have my vap gues free stuff, or sometimes I don't
want to go to work in the morning, so I'll
reschedule them and I'll say, well fuck it, you get
half off, right, But it is having your own business.
So I'm sure you're happy about that.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Well great, so yeah, no, it is, and you know,
I think now being where you're in charge of your
own destiny, if I want more sponsors, if I want
to do more shows. You know, thank god I have
this platform in Blue and Joe Grande have just been
you know, the mentors that I didn't have in the
entertainment world. You know, I was on Wall Street for
twenty years side a lot of those. I finally figured
that game out. But just when I figure that out,
if you listen to the first episode, you'll see that

(33:23):
I lost it all to a Ponzi scheme deal with
the Feds, in fact, a story that I didn't tell you.
So American Greed reached out and they said, hey, we'll
pay you a couple hundred thousand, and one of their
producers did for the story because it was big here
in Orange County and it was interesting. At this point,
I'd lost it. I didn't even have money for you know.
Thank god, my parents, who you met, you know, helped
me with legal fees. And the legal fees that I
spent was just to get protect my reputation. There was

(33:46):
no criminal nothing happened to me in that regards. But
what I quickly find out and I had a mentor
tell me. He's like, look, why would you give that
content to somebody else and let them spin the narrative.
Go out there, tell your story, get on a stage
to start a podcast. The moment I did that, all
of the sudden, it's like, you know, it's like that
line of eminem at. Then he's like, what are you
going to find that I haven't already told you? You know,
like I told you everything. I've said it on the

(34:07):
first podcast. I told you all my dark demons and shit,
So there's nothing you're going to go google, Well, well
you got band from Wall Street. No, motherfucker. I walked
away and I took a band because I want to
be able to tell my story And if you listening
to the podcast, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
I love this because literally I have signed NDAs with
working with my TV shows and I've signed other things,
and you know, being in the Induces is the age
of three and a woman.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
I've gone through a lot of crazy shit like that.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
So it's just it's just it's definitely something that you
you want to just try to keep your head above
water and have different things that just self brand yourself
because you're climbing somebody else's ladder.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
They'll one day not leave a step for you.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
What are the you know, the kind of a transition.
A piece of advice for if you're listening at home.
One of the biggest easiest things you can do. If
you your personal brand is your first business. If you
have not went and bought your own domain name, if
you haven't gone on every social platform bought at least
something close to your name, that's your first easy You
don't need an LLC to do that. You don't need anything.
Your personal brand and what you do with that personal

(35:07):
brand is your quickest path to revenue. You're seeing it
right here. You're seeing it with.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
My eion is a ny hunger. You know I am
a walking entity.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah, we didn't plan this. I mean, this is so
this is so reality that if you guys just take
these little nuggets. I cannot stress enough. It sounds simple,
It sounds so basic. Right, go on Facebook and buy
your name, even if you don't intend on being on
the platform. Right, new thing comes out threads. I haven't
used it, but I still got it, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 5 (35:30):
And if you aren't good at being on TV and
you're not good at being in front of a microphone.
I do have a NINAS Aesthetics Entertainment where I teach
people how to be in front of a microphone and
how to get your hair pretty or how to get
your you know, because I do work with medspas and
so botox, filler, ozempic surgeries. I mean all that kind
of stuff. And I'm not sitting here promoting saying that's
what you need. But if that's something that makes you
feel comfortable to get in front of a microphone, you

(35:52):
could reach out for me for that too.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
I do do that too.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Yeah, and having a personal brand isn't even just to
be on TV or having a podcast. You have other people.
I mean, there's so many big names that I know.
I'm not going to name drop them because I didn't
get permission, But they have an entire social media team.
They're they're creating the con This dude will talk for
thirty seconds and they're creating the content. Maybe he'll approve it.
So you don't have to be a good copywriter, you
don't have to be a good face. You could be

(36:15):
on radio. So there's so many things that you can do.
But the first step is at least get those domains.
At least get the thing. It's free, it doesn't cause anything.

Speaker 6 (36:22):
Yeah, it's easy. Focused do your paperwork.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
That's it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (36:26):
And yeah, and if you have a trade. I tell
men this.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
So we're talking about how like men don't get a
lot of like they really do have it hard, and
we do sit there and we we like shame them,
and then we throw our bodies in their faces on
a mads and then we talk shit on them and
it's like crazy.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
It's a vicious cycle.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
And men aren't allowed to cry men are, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 5 (36:44):
So I tell men, I say, you know, even some
of the guys that I'm dating right now, I tell them,
I go, you.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Know, I love how you said. I don't have a Yeah,
I don't have a.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
Ring on the fingers.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
So I tell them, and each guy I've dated, I've
actually helped them with their entrepreneurship. Tell them, I'm like you,
the most you're going to make working for a corporation
mostly is seventy five dollars an hour. You can get
up to one hundred and twenty five or something like that.
But I make more money than some of my nurses.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
I do.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
Actually I make more money than all of them because
the highest end they and I don't have any I
never went to college. I never went to high school. Yeah,
I don't have a diploma. I never stepped foot on
a high school campus.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Actually speak more articulately, and I do way more than people.
We talked about this in the back, and we'll talk
about master mentors. But you know, so many of these
kids are going to college. Now they come out with
six figure, multi six figure debt. They can still get
more debt if they want to go to graduate school,
but now they get out, they can't even get a
business loan. Yeah, you know what I mean. It is
such a six cycle that we're creating for these kids
that anybody that has our entrepreneurial spirit and let's get

(37:42):
to be an astronaut or an engineer or something. I'm like, dude,
unless college is really for you, do something, don't sit
there and get stoned every day. But you know, I
don't believe that college is for everybody. Yes, for some people.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
A lot of my doctor, you know, he is still
paying his student loans, and you know he's his medspaw
and stuff like that, and his overhead is higher than mine.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
His little his debt is higher than mine, So technically.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
You're probably taking home more than he is.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
Right, Well, he might have more money in the bank,
but I don't have a fucking overhead.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
Yeah, and you know I don't have at gage.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
Some if you stay, if you talk to some like
really like Financial Fridays, you know, being a podcast for
financial Fridays, which I think is the best find. I
think it's the best podcast in the world for financial anything.
Is this one? By the way, anybody who talks about
they talk about how you know, when you do anything
in business, you know, you just got to do it

(38:35):
your own way, you know, don't be afraid to step out.
And I think the Quarantine, I was talking to your
producer about this. I think the Quarantine helped a lot
of people show that that you you know, that the
everyday cycle is not everything. And yeah, so you know
if you are sick. But some, I mean some people
like that life. They like going to work every.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Single day, keeping up with Jones. Did you know it's
by the way, you know, my dude went to prison
for for a Ponzi scheme Orange County, California, where we
live in Newport Beach is the Ponzi is the Ponzi
scheme capital of the world. And you being involved with
the Housewives and being in that world, you see it
because all these guys, they may have a Ferrari they
but their leverage to the deads they you know what

(39:18):
I'm saying. You probably that you We could talk about
that for hours.

Speaker 6 (39:21):
I know the Housewives because I do Botox and Stiller.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
You know, you hear all the inside, the real the inside.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
Yeah, And it's just a lot of my clients that
make like so much money they opted not to be
on the Orange County Housewives or the Beverly Hills house
Works because.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
They don't want people to look into their finances because they.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Didn't want the absolutely virus.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
Yeah, and it breaks up marriages.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
You opened up the store, so I got asked. You
mentioned you're dating multiple guys. Which guy won the Valentine's date?
Is there one or is there still a race going on?

Speaker 5 (39:51):
There's like a couple options.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
The people that I'm having Valentine's Date with.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
When is an ex boyfriend of mine that I'm still
very very close to, but we're not intimate. And then
there's another ex boyfriend of mine that we're more on
an intimate level.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
Yeah, but it's hard, Like you know, just like everything.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
My birthdays on Valentine's if you want to make it
easy and then we're done, just clear the field.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
I love that. Yeah, they work hard.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
These two guys have worked hard to be my my
Valentine's man.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
I can't to hear who wins when you come back
next time, both of them.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
But the day in which that's.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Opening up so many more questions, I think at the
same time, are you talking about a lunch date and
the dinner?

Speaker 6 (40:37):
No, I think Valentine's Day.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
One of them is working all day, So I'm already
scheduling to do my Valentine's Day with them on a Sunday,
and then the one who's not working, I'll be with
him on actual value.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
That's pretty gangster, right, all planned out, let's go. I
wish she got a schedule that actually has breakfast and
set up.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
I always make a joke because like too Short, you know,
when he would always have too Short was around Todd
the home.

Speaker 6 (41:00):
He was always so cool. He always have a bunch
of girls.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
But they all knew about each other, and they both
know about each other yeah, so I'm not like one
of those people who were like.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
I know a few of those people. We have some
people who.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Have sat at the table who are married and they
got a bonch of girls or a bunch of guys,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (41:14):
I have two and they both know about each other.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Yeah. I think that's the healthiest way. You know, I'm
not a big fan of but if everybody is clear
what they're cool, I'm normally.

Speaker 6 (41:23):
Being intimate with one, you know.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
But you never know that question. There wasn't part of
the financial I had to ask that one.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
Well, A big part of why I'm able to do that, ladies,
is because I make my own money.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
There you go, and I love Let's.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
Do a little shout out. So we had Jerry Buss's
wife on one of our billboards. Oh shit, and she
is my idol because she showed up at eighty two
with a thirty two year old soccer player.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Yeah, that was that was her.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
She and Chaer says. Chare's mom said to her share
you need to marry a rich man, and she goes, Mom,
I am the rich man. And that's it's my favorite
line too, And that's what I want to be. I
want to be the rich man or whatever, a rich woman.
And even if I'm not, just like independent.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
You know, if you want to date three guys, you
date three guys can tell you what to do because
you don't like it, bye bye. Yeah. So the first
question was, uh, you know, the best investment? Now, what
was the worst investment you've ever made? Now, this could
be into business or a person.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
Okay, okay, okay, the worst investment I ever made? Gosh,
oh gosh. You know, obviously I always want to say.
I always want to say, like, drinking is the worst investment,
you know, when it comes to like abusing it, And
that was one of the worst investments I ever made.
When it comes to a person, I've I've learned a

(42:43):
lot from every investment I've made in my relationships, you
know what I mean. But but let me give you
an answer. Uh, the worst investment, Yeah, I would. I
would just have to stick with fucking. I would have
to stick with partying, bro.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
That's fine. And you know was my every fucking.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Time I got kicked off a show when I worked
with them, CBS and Jim Belushi on the show. According
to Jim, I showed up three hours late because I
drank too much the night before.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Yeah, and I remember saying that you lost that opportunity.
How great would that have been? Due? Yeah? Yeah, you know.
I interviewed freeway Rick Ross here a while back and
he told me he's such a cool dude. And one
of the lines that he told me says, you know,
I have no regrets, I only have lessons in life. Yeah, dang, dude,
this guy really broke it down in that one sentence.
And I look at that the same way. It's like,

(43:27):
I look at some of the highs and lows, and
I wouldn't say it was a regrets. Now, going back
to what you said, Yes, you know, I look at
all the strip clubs I've been too, all the gambling
I did, all those late nights. I'm like, I don't
have any of those. You're on it, and it's millions
of dollars when you really quantify it, like all right,
this like twenty five thirty years that you start doing
the math and it's like, holy shit, it adds up.
And then you start thinking about the tangible things you

(43:49):
could have bought, rental properties, boats, paying off your mom's house.
So it does kind of sting a little bit. So, Yes,
it's still a lesson, but that would probably be the
only lesson too that I that I think I've ever
regret about. Yeah, what's the if you?

Speaker 5 (44:00):
And thanks for being honest about that for me to
do that, No, but so many guys lie to me
in general because they want to date me and they're like,
I've never been to a strip club or I've never
been on only fans, only fans.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
I'm my motherfucker customers.

Speaker 6 (44:15):
Yeah, So I just think that's it.

Speaker 5 (44:16):
I think because women are beautiful and so, you know,
God is a thing, but it is, it does the
trade off needs to be more. It's getting crazy, right
and yeah, the second you get our own fans, people
are starting to do poorn it.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
It's fucked up.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
If that's about investment, only fans is about investment. I
didn't make two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a month
like some.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Of these girls.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
Question number three on the Financial Friday five with miss
Anina Unger, what is the best present You've ever bought yourself?

Speaker 6 (44:47):
My BMW.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
When I was nineteen, I had five years no drinking,
and I saved up so much money for not going
out because it's also like, you know, like when you're
like manic and you're partying and you're doing your red carpets,
you're spending money on gowns and makeup and all that stuff.
But yeah, so I bought myself a brand new BMW
when I was nineteen years old. I don't have a
lot of crazy stories about like buying houses or anything

(45:10):
like that.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
But it was a proud moment. I mean, that's something
that you did for yourself, and you did a lot
of sacrificing in the party scene to be able to
have that, to have it, So it's great. It's a
great thing. What's the best present you've ever bought somebody else?
Question number four.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
When I got off tour with you in Blue Sheet,
I had like a big amount of money, and so
I gave my mom eight grand in cash and a
pizza because she's Italian. And that's why I thought you
were a Talian. Yeah, because persons and Italians look alike,
because we had the noses and ma and a heller,
you know what I mean. Because there's just like that

(45:45):
immigrant fucking love there. And so my mom is the
oldest of seven kids, and she's from Philly, from the
real bad side, and she worked as the oldest of
the seven, so she was making breakfast for a two
year old at five And so, you know, me being
able to get back to her, even though that's not
a lot. You know, some people out there buying their
mom's fucking Bentley's and fucking houses and shit, but you

(46:07):
know me being able to give her eight grand and
a pizza.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
And I have a little video of it. It's on
my Instagram view though.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Look, you know, by the way, the reason I think
my mom hugged you and held a little bit extra tighter.
As I was walking into the car, she goes, is
that your new girlfriend or something? Because you know, I
was trying to rush them out because I didn't want
them to kind of interrupt between guests, and so she
she kind of has a sixth sense, and she's like,
who is this person? You know?

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (46:30):
Yeah, And she was like, oh shit, this is something.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Yeah, she's usually seen a few of the guests and shows,
but she's never been to the studio.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
So I hugged her to make her think that. I
didn't think but I could see why she would.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Think that that was cute. Final question on the Financial
Friday five. My friend is, if money was no object,
what would you buy?

Speaker 5 (46:53):
I'm I would get my mom out of debt, you know,
I would.

Speaker 6 (46:57):
I would.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
I would own a property just because I would a
house just because I wouldn't have to pay rent anymore,
get my mom out of debt. And then I would
create the spa at my house. I've already thought about this,
good question. I would have a gated house and there
would be the back house. Would I would have an
area for my brother and then I would have my
own spa out of my little back house and a

(47:17):
place for my dad and my mom.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
And that's it.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
Because I don't plan on really getting married or having kids.
Sorry my Valentine's Day dates now, Yeah, no, I don't,
you know, for me putting a kid in you know,
I'm still working on my inner child. I might be
doing that forever, So I don't know. Some people are
really maternal, but for me, I'm not like, oh my god,
I have to have a kid.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
It's just not.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
I have a puppy and that's enough for me. But so, yeah,
what was there? What was the original question?

Speaker 4 (47:46):
Yeah? So that's it the best? Uh, you know, if
money was no object, what would you guy, so you'd
help you.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
I would just help my mom, yeah, and my dad
and the people who are here.

Speaker 6 (47:53):
And that's it. And you know what.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
That tells me, though, It tells me that you just
want stability because what you described as having your work
at the house, the house is paid off. You don't have.
What you described is you're just you don't want to
have to worry about shit if you don't want if
you just want to hang out with your mom and.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
Just try enough to make it Like, I don't want
to be one of those people out there like buying
maseratis and fucking because I can, like we all can,
you guys like, yeah, we can work our asses off
and be that person. But to me, that's just you know,
my mom's bread like that, and because she's the oldest
of seven, but it's just not necessarily in my genetics.
And I don't fucking knock myself for that. I build

(48:28):
myself up for that. I say, you know, I like
to lounge, Yeah, I do.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
And a lot of.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
People are always like, like, you look so happy all
the time, like because I work like three four days
a week, tok.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Yeah, now, And I love the question you told me
a lot of people ask you constantly, you know, are
young cocaine and I get that. People are dude, you
talk too fast, and I'm like, no, you listen too slow?

Speaker 6 (48:46):
Yeah, no fucking sober.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
They told me that at Kilo's I'm Lean like a
solo music video. Yeah yeah, they did, like a podcast
and because some shit happened on that music video and
it went viral and they were like, well, Kuilo's girl
because I was with Kilo and they're like, keep she
must have been on Cocaine's funny because his name fucking Quilo.

Speaker 6 (49:08):
And I'm like, no, dude, this is just me. Yeah,
it's who I am.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Yeah, I know you know. One of my biggest pet
peeves is when people lead those damn recorded voice memos. Hello,
it's me, bitch, I know it's you, it's from your number,
and then it's three minutes to get into the intro.
I'll just listen. I can't listen. My attention spans that bay.
If you can just text and do it otherwise call me. Yes,
I'm not going to listen a four minute message into
what you could have told me in thirty seconds. Yes, Well,
that's the way our brains operate. The diamond brains, right.

Speaker 6 (49:33):
Hey, diamond brain, diamond mind.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Well, Ladiesdalleman, we're going to take a quick break. When
we come back, I want to hear more about how
people can find you, the projects you're working on, and
more importantly, just let us know how you can keep
inspiring people by talking about the plot that I think
you brought a couple products. I want to highlight those
when we come back here on Financial Fridays with Ane Nonger.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
We'll be right back with more Financial Fridays with the
Inside Investor Tony Kaye. Make sure you follow Tony at
the Insider Investor. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk, one on
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(50:14):
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health advocate, long lifelong entrepreneur anin Unger. Thank you so

(50:57):
much for being here. Thank you for being vulnerable. I
know this shows down a little bit longer, but the
good ones always do, so the guy, I know it's
a good one when these guys aren't harassing me to
wrap it up. So I appreciate you being here with us. Good.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
I love it, you know, don't rush us.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Much.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
I love you. This one's a slow burner.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
We're all good.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Slow burner, my boy, it's up. Shout out to you know.
We talked about this too, you know, the paid to
play and usually you know, I don't have brands on
the show unless I've endorsed them, or unless I've tried
them and I can vouch for it that you know,
if it's a hair growth chip. It actually works instead.
You know what I'm saying, right, But but you know
I trust you, and I know that you have a

(51:36):
lot of different brands, so you know, when you and
I connected, I already know there's going to be a
lot of alignment with what you're doing. But this is
a perfect example that you don't need money to do shit.
If you want to get on somebody's radar just sliding
in their DMS, you'd be amazed. Don't ask for shit.
I call it being a kangaroo an alligator. A kangaroo
is all can't even reach into his own pocket to
pay for shit, so it's all constantly gimme, gimme, gimme.
An alligator is just waiting there for you to land

(51:58):
on and they want to snap you. Don't be a kangaroo.
Don't be an alligator. Be a giver. The more you give,
the more you get. It's relationship currency. Think of it
as a bank. Think of your relationships as currency. You
got to make more deposits. If you go to the
bank and you're constantly withdrawing, you're withdrawing currency. I need this,
Give me a ride, give me this shit. Well, now,
when you want something that bank accounts over drawn, you're

(52:19):
going to get a fee. And that happens with your relationship.
Put more deposits bank your relationship currencies, and I think
that's what you and I have done, and that's what's
gotten us here, and I already feel that we're going
to be doing big things together. So I do want
you to talk about some of the brands that you
already aligned with, and more importantly, I want you to
talk a little bit more about how people can find
the medspot.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
Okay, so yeah, real quick.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
So through my reality TV show, I have been introduced
to the CBD line And this is for skincare, So
this is to be used on a clean face.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
It's a CBD youth oil.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
And when you are Caucasian and you don't have a
lot of melanin in your skin, you're going to age faster.
So oil is the number one thing that you should
be used on the face. So this is kindy. This
is a brand that reached out to me that we're
kind of having a little relationship with.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Now, is this a racist brand? Is it only for
white people? No? Yeah, yeah, it doesn't work.

Speaker 6 (53:11):
So it's funny.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
So people talk to me about like what makes the
skin you know, expression lines, wrinkle, sagging. It's a lack
of melanin. And so that's why they say like black
don't crack or whatever. It's like you know, Indian skin
or that's with high melanin counts, it just don't age
as much. So you're going to be looking younger because
of the Persian in you. So it's really important for
but you know, I'm different stroketure different folks.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
So this was designed specifically for people to have lower
melowtnin because they're already at a higher risk of aging.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
Well, so this is this is anti aging for the oil.
The CBD is anti inflammatory. So CBD has a lot
of effects like that, and so anti aging, anti inflammatory.
We don't want to say cancer, like it stops melanomas
from you know, growing, but we can't say that because
the FDA hasn't cleared that yet.

Speaker 6 (53:59):
But we all know cannabis works.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
For creating a healthy environment for the skin, would you say, And.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
Yeah, and there's canna of anoid receptors in your brain
and so cannab CBD is meant to be in the body.

Speaker 6 (54:10):
But yes, it's it's a barrier protection.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
Uh, is it a line of products or is it
just one specific product.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
They're having a line King d a Kindie. They have
a boy and a girl's brand. This is just like
kind of a bit a baby company I'm working with.
I'm same with this. Well, this guy is a friend
of mine and I saw him at Biscon and I've
known him since past World days. Okay, so is my
buddy kid mister Frost. But Mahomie Casper I used to

(54:37):
live with and we used to run the rave scene
together like crazy, and he is he has a huge
dispenser and he's trying to figure out ways to put
where to put his money.

Speaker 6 (54:47):
So same with these people.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
They're looking for financial leadership and same with this line
here and so this is and this is why I
brought them on Financial Fridays because they need your mentorship.
But you know they're so their baby company. Some Ivente
is awesome. If I could just grab this, of course,
I'll grab it for you. Okay, okay, okay, walking dope, Yeah, dude.
So I'm not drinking, but you know I have. And

(55:12):
so this is Ivente and it literally so I was
drinking at the biscoon so I didn't have my surpriety.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
We both were.

Speaker 6 (55:18):
Yeah, so I was walking.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
Around with a little e congratulate, congratulations to his grammy
that he just got from his father.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Yeah, shout out. You know, I didn't even know that.
We hung out for him a little bit. He came
over to the booth over at MJ Biscon. We have
a phenomenal picture. I wish we had that teed up,
would show it, but shout out to him. You know,
I kind of video I think we all knew. Yeah,
we took some great photos. I got a still with
him and such a humble dude, you know, so nice.
Yeah he had an entourage. Yeah he had a camera crew.
But it's very nice, very appreciative, and yeah, you know

(55:45):
I told him what his dad, you know, the memories
that I have, and he just listened. It wasn't just
kind of a quickie, but I was. That warmed my
heart to hear that from me, and I didn't know
that until today.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
Yeah, So he walked around with me because he's so
cool and he actually loves me because I walked him around.

Speaker 6 (55:59):
So I actually, well no, I mean at the bus.

Speaker 5 (56:01):
Came like I was like, follow me dog, because everybody
knows that when I worked. I used to work for
the bus Cup when I toured with like Bishop and
Snoopid Warren and I was with Ditch and all these
people back in the day.

Speaker 6 (56:12):
I was just like my own running brand too.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
So I don't even like to mention those names because like,
I literally just worked for myself. There was times where
I was on stage because it's almost like an audience plant,
like or they'd be like, I need a girl on stage.

Speaker 6 (56:23):
I go on. But like I said, I'm an entrepreneur.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
So even Little Easy was following me, and I went
and I coughed all these you know, different gifts for us,
and he helped me out because he's his son. So
but we went to this guy and this guy loved
my energy and he was just like, but I just
thought it was super dope. So it's a fucking vodka
forty percent alcohol he did. He sent it to me empty,

(56:48):
but I think you could still smell it. It smells
like cannabis.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
So he was walking around with it was.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
It was his booth, and mean Easy, you were going
and getting gifted. Oh okay, so anyways, hold it up
to your mouth though it's a fucking joint.

Speaker 6 (57:00):
It's like a joint.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
Yeah, I see it tastes just.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
I'm gonna leave this bottle here. It's a gift for you, joy,
and then they'll send you a full bottle. And then
he'll send you a varsity jacket. Okay, and then they'll
gift you as well.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Now, where can people find these brands if they want
to support them or look them up?

Speaker 6 (57:23):
I v n t Instagram? Literally the label I v
i E n t E.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
I v E I n t E.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
I v e I n t E vodka ter vodka
tastes just like weed.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
That is so cool, just like it. And the merch brand, the.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
Merch brand, it's I'm going to have to find the
tag on my Instagram.

Speaker 6 (57:42):
I'll work with you.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
Yeah, Well, by the time the show airs, we'll drop
that link.

Speaker 6 (57:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
And then this one's easy because it's king y k
y n g d y at k y n g
d y.

Speaker 6 (57:55):
So they're easy to find.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
And this is why I love a Dean because none
of these brands are endorsing you. None of them have
paid you to do this. Well, I'm not getting paid
to do it, but this was just something you want
to do because these people have done cool shit for you.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
Yeah, Like it's like I've gotten a little bit of
something from them, but like you know, there's been a
lot of time that that that's why I'm saying, like
I'm going to gift you and to be honest, if
you work with them and we do talk finances. But
there is a big part of me, like I say,
I give out free facials all the time. I have
something called model Mondays. Yeah, and that's how I got
into Playboy is I gave so many free fucking facials

(58:27):
to so many playmates.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
And I thought, one of the things I want to
do is talk to Joe and Blue to see if
we can kind of be your human guinea pigs. To
come over there and you poke us, you scrub us,
do whatever the heck you want to do.

Speaker 6 (58:37):
Laser light bo for you for life. I own the bed,
you know what.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
We'll come over there and just model us up. We
can do great, great before and afters. Joe's before will
be better because I'm already good looking. But Joe, you know,
he can use some improvement.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
You guys can come and not even get filmed. That's
how much I love you. No, I love you too,
And this is this is it. You know again, she
didn't even plug herself. Tell us about the metspot. Where
can people find that? Okay, so are we so everybody
where I get where I refer all the botox, filler
and threads anti aging is at aladerm A L L
A d r M.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
My instagram is Anina's Aesthetics.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
It's at A N n I N A S Aesthetics
A E S t H E t I c A
Nina is aesthetics. And you'll see all the different met
smalls I'm working with. Shout out to uh w W
www dot d W two r dot com. Don't ate
to a juveni. And that's where I got both my
videographers for today. So it is relationships that you do.

(59:35):
And you know, I'm not really paying my videographers and
you know, all that kind of stuff like I'll give
them and it's just.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
A fucking we invited you guys now for the Super Bowl.
We can already see the alignment. They've helped some of
our video guys and content creators on some tips, and
I think this is one of those relationships where you know,
a year from now, we're going to be doing a
few more shows by there I'm sure you're going to
be back, but I can't wait to see what happens
to here and everybody that's watching it. We're time tra
is time travelers. As I was telling you, Blue says,

(01:00:03):
people will look back at this episode and be like,
that's how the relationship started. Let us prove to you
how that means when you're actually banking relationship equity instead
of saying how much you gonna pay me.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
When I went on my first podcast, I paid fifteen
hundred dollars to be on that podcast. It was a
long time ago is when it first started, and it
was one of.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
The best investments I ever made.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
Very cool and like I said, I invested a lot
to be in Playboy and I paid to play and
I put. And the reason why I got on that
reality TV show was because I paid to be in
a Billboard seven times and I paid one thousand dollars
each time.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
There you go, So I put.

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
You know, this is a blessing that I'm able to
do this work with you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
But yeah, in marketing, you market yourself, you got to
pay to play.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
I love it, well, thank you so much. This means
you know, this is one of my favorite shows. That
I've done up until now. I love all of them.
Everybody has different content, but I think this is one
of those to where we not get just get motivated
for entrepreneurship, but being a good person, being a good
steward in life, giving back and relationship equity. You know,
I can't say that enough. And I feel like we
banked a little bit with each other today.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
One we're going to get the shadow what is it called,
the thing that they're doing to the doctor.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Oh, the shadow banning. Yeah, the shadow banning that we're
experiencing is just unbelievable on YouTube and and her team.
Right now, I've already suggested some shit you guys.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
I'm not suggesting. I'm going to send you somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
I love it. I'm going to screenshot where we're at
on our follower account and a subcount, and then in
ninety days when you're back, I'm going to see I
love that. I love that. That'll be our challenges today.
Do it well? Thank you so much for coming you guys,
thank you for listening. Before I leave, I want you
to just shout out a few people here. Usually I
have a big, massive long list that Joe's made for me,
which is all the people that are here. We have
a massive team of interns. Now we have our team

(01:01:40):
at Master Mentors. The list has gotten so long that
each episode now I just want to highlight some of
the people that make this show happen. Last week we
talked about the production team. Today it is the editing
and the film team up front. Erica and Jen have
been with this team for as long as way more
than I have guys, and these guys, I'm an asshole.
I do shit. Last minute, I pissed them off. I
delivered my last episode the last second. They'll stay in late.

(01:02:02):
I cannot tell you, ladies, how much I appreciate you,
including the rest of the staff, including down to the
last intern. More importantly, thank you for the audience for
listening to Financial Fridays here on Cannabis Talk one on
one with Blue and Joe Grande and myself. The world's
number one source for everything cannabis is right here. Ladies
and gentlemen, I'm Tony Ka. You're Insider Investor. You can
always find me on Instagram at the Insider Investor. I'm
gonna see you next Friday. Remember to keep that wallet

(01:02:23):
tight your mind right. I look forward to seeing you
on the inside.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Is thank you for listening to Financial Fridays with the
Insider investor Tony Ka on Cannabis Talk one oh one,
the world's number one source for everything cannabis.

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