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It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,
Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman, the pot Brothers
at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis.
Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one of the
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is Blue. Alongside him is the world famous part Brothers
at Law, Mr Mark and Craig Washerman. And next to
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that is the round mount of Radio. Joe Grande, did
you guys say that that come from somewhere else? Round? Now?
That was marked? It was Mark. I knew somebody gave
me that after Barkley. Yeah, and Barkley's great. I was
just watched him last night. You watched the playoff games.
I just I'm not a role model, dude. He's just
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the best. One of the best commercials ever. Bottom line.
Watching him on T and T is the best. Well,
I hope you all had a great Fourth of July
weekend and we are back and Peg you have some
news you want to discuss, right, Yeah, I think this
is great. Eight man. Really, you know, this is kind
of a I don't want to say. When cannabis goes
bad story, but it kind of putting cannabis in a
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bad light. I mean, did any of you none of
you heard of this? One of the cameras. One of
the guys charged with assaulting police with with pepper spray
and a baseball bat at the January six insurrection of
the Capitol. Bill at is blaming. We shut up. Listen
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to this, his attorney, You and your friends, His attorney said, Mr.
Whatever guy swing was that freedom PLAUSI in the district
with other Trump supporters, he was approached by someone with
a video camera who engaged him in conversation. He had
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just smoked a significant amount of marijuana, and his intoxication
is palpable in his dilated pupils and grin and in
the rambles in comments that ensued when he rambled. When
they asked him why he had come, he said to
keep the president in. That's what. That's what the that's
what the attorneys rambling guys one had just smoked a
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significant amount of marijuana. When he told others on January
fifty planned to keep Trump in, he had allegedly assaulted
police and uh and and stormed the Capitol with the
baseball bat, all because of weed. It's people just don't
want to take responsibility for their actions. No, is that
what did he, as the as the person being charge
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with this, decided to do or was it somebody else
has said it was because he was high. It was
probably his attorny. This is your defense. Probably some kind
of insanity. Got so smiling like, oh, I don't know
what I'm doing now. Yeah, he got He looked as
your post when you were, so we need to get
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him on the show. I mean that that's pretty ridicul
Blame cannabis for acting crazy and wild and violently. You're
gonna use any of you, I mean, And they judge
to leave that he got stoned on the fifth and
he was so intoxicated from the cannabis that it lasted
over into the sixth when he took part of the
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shut up. He's running the day before, he's not running
the day. The article goes on to say that this
guy's lawyer clearly banked on a judge having zero experience
with cannabis because those theories are ludicrous, ludicrous. They aren't
without precedent, though, The myth that cannada smoking caused the
suwheer to go off the rails on a crime spree
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is one of the oldest reefer madness in reaching back
to as we talked Harry Annslinger. So, yeah, I just
when I read that, I almost rolled over dying, laughing,
like really, I'm glad you said that, because that was
worthy event. I'm baffled right now by not baffle but
impressed actually by the lawyer going, I got your reason,
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I got your reason for your out. This is the
problem though, with the lawyer even doing it. You know
he did. There's you know, you know how the lawyers are.
You know I wouldn't go, I swear to god. I mean,
I don't know if I could be bought to go
up there and make a full up come on charge.
You had to clients to do something that you were like,
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this is your only way out. This is the thing
if you're going to go to trial, when you have
an opening statement of any kind. Now, this wasn't in
a trial. Was probably while they were pleading guilty or
not guilty at some point in the proceeding, but you
have to go before the jurne. I'm going to prove this.
I'm going to prove that I was stoned because I
was right he's gonna try to perfrove you will not
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be able to provide any scientific evidence ever. Do you
know if those guys are shoulder aches now from reaching
so hard for their excuses that shoulder sockets I got
at lady fools are crazy. Man. Well look hey, listen
to this real quick, guys, just a little heads. Planet
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down this first off, I want to thank everybody for
listening to that crazy news that Craig had to get out,
and I'm glad you got it out because it was crazy.
It was very interesting to start the show off that way.
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Joe grand A fifty two. Now our guest today Ashley Manta,
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a sex and relation coach. You can check her out
at Canna Sexual. She's the creator there. Check out the
website canna sexual dot com that c A N N
A S e x u A l dot com are
on Instagram. Canna sexual is at an Underscore at the
end as well, no underscore at the end. Just at
Canna Sexual. She has a book, The CBD Solution Sex.
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Can't wait to get into that too, and she was
also the Expert of the Year. She won the award
for that. So welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one. Actually,
how you doing today? Thank you so much for having me, gentlemen.
I am elated to be here. I mean, it's just
so awesome. We hear about you. I see this. Your
voice sounds sexty or sexiest can be as well, but
your voice is just getting me excited as it is.
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You bring it via phone sex operator. Are you serious?
I didn't remember that. Oh no way, Hold on a second.
We gotta role play this. Let's just acting cannabis. Hey, hey, hey,
hold on, I'm gonna get there. I'm gonna get there.
Hold on, Craig, hold on. She did this as a professional.
Let's try it out. Hey, baby, what are you wearing? Oh? Well,
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I have a call It shirt on and some shorts.
This is Joe. I'm from Cannabis Talk one on one
and Buddy Blue. See my buddy Blue. We're on the
phone together. And who are we speaking to? Oh? This
is Ashley and you know, two heads are better than once.
Why don't you boys get a little more comfortable? Actually,
you're making me sweat already. What do you look like, Ashley? Well,
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I am a voluptuous blonde with pooling blue eyes and
a very very ample bosom When you say ample bosom,
like more than a handful, two handfuls at least, so
we could both grab one handful each, right, you have
enough to share? Do you have a braun right now?
I do not? Who bras? Anyway? Can I three way
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my buddy Craig on this call? You should definitely do that. Craig.
You're on the call, Craig, we got this girl. Actually
we're smoking a joint right now, so you know what?
That got me excited and I can continue the whole time.
But actually, is that how you got? Like? How does
one become even a sex therapist? So for the legal distinction,
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I am a sex coach, not a therapist. License I
am not, which is actually cool because it gives me
the freedom to speak very frankly with my clients and
ways that therapists are sort of not able to do.
I got my start actually doing like sexual violence prevention education.
I was doing a victim advocacy in the Philadelphia District
Attorney's office. So I put in my time way back when,
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and it's really heavy, hard work, and I decided I
wanted to focus more on the pleasurable side of sex.
So I moved from Pennsylvania to California and started working
as a phone sex operator. So it was more pleasurable
in California than it wasn't. So have you been to
the East Coast? Yea is no no joke. It ain't
brotherly love. Really, it's like a twenty four hour cock block. Terrible.
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So so you come here to work on more pleasurable stuff.
I came here many times. Craig, I didn't even go there.
You guys still on the call. Hello, Craig is here hustling.
He's all sweaty, wiping down. I'm going wait a minute,
my phone all sticky. So you started off as a
phone sex therapist. So I started off as a sex educator.
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I was doing um colleges and universities talking about condom
and uh safer sex boundaries. Hold on, Blue doesn't know
what those are condoms? Can you explain? Because he thinks
he's an Indian and he's always bear back in everything. Yeah,
sheep back, sheep back in safer sex sex. It's really
important not just to prevent pregnancy, but also to reduce
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the risk of S t I S. Although that is
a normal, healthy part of being a sexually active adult.
That's why you get tested and have conversations. You know,
we're not here to stigmatize s T I I. I
show my stomach every six hours one s T I
S and STDs. S t I is the more serious,
friendly way of saying s STD like disease. That sounds
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so scary. I've been in college for so long, but
that's what it was called back then, in the old day.
It wasn't called venereal disease. Back then, it was both. Actually,
I think that was coming out of the v d
S time into the STT period. That is true, they
did change names like that. That's funny. STI infection. It's
actually transmitted infection. And because things are clearable, you take
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you know, if you have chlamydia, it's it's the sake
becau zethromyacin and you clear up in you know, six
of ten days. You're cool right now when you get
the suitcase, which is why I call it the suitcase,
which is the herpies. And I call the suitcase because
it comes to give you everywhere you go. You can
put it away for a little while, but it's gonna
come back. Funny story about that, Joe, I have herbies
and you know, one of four of us back from
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having the best sex of my life with plenty of people.
I just agree frank conversations up front and I say, hey,
I have herpies. I take medicine, you use condoms. Everybody's happy,
everyone's safe, it works all day every day. Welcome to
the family. I appreciate you being honest like that, because
you know, sometimes I think that people don't have the
ability to have the normal conversation, especially when they have
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a cold stre on their lip and they want to
say it's just a cold sword, and I go, well, cold,
all cold swords are. And I love when people go, no, dog,
it's cold sort, well, it's a skin skins the bottom line,
and like, and that's fine. It's it's not going to
kill you. It's it's it's no different than having a pimple.
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It's really not a big deal. But people freak out because,
oh my god, what if I get something on my
genitals and then I have to have conversations about sex.
Oh no, so yeah, go ahead and talk about the player.
It's not a big deal. And honestly, I find cannabis
helps me keep my outbreaks to on minimum because it
reduces my stress level. That's a great thing. And what
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led you to the CBD Solution? Sex? When we come
back from this break, welcome back to Cannada's Talking one
along with Ashley Mentor. That's client miss menta sex relationship
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coach cannas sexual and has the book The CBD Solution.
We just talked about it Sex. Oh, that's it right there.
Look at it. What a sexy looking book as well.
What lead you to write this and what's it about? Uh? Well,
you know it's about housekeeping, keeping your house keeping, your
house in order. Uh. Mary Jane actually is the co
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author on the book. So they approached me. Noah, Reuben,
my amazing editor, came to me a couple of summers
ago and said, hey, we're doing doing a three part
series on CBD and various topics. We'd like you to
be the one to write about sex. And I was
like fuck yes, So I decided to put together you know,
all of the things that I wish people knew about
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both sex and cannabis, and then how to combine them.
So the first chapter is all the science of the
endocannabinoid system and all the different cannabinoids, not just CBD,
but t H, C, t hd V, cbn, CBG, all
that good stuff. And then the second is all about
all the things in sex said that you were not taught.
You know, when you get sex said in this country,
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it's so terrible. It's all death and babies, and there's
nothing about masturbation or pledge or consent or anything useful,
which is why I have a job now, because I'm
cleaning up the messes that these high school sex educators
left behind. And then the rest of the book is
all about solo sex, partnered sex, and then you know,
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sort of troubleshooting, what happens when you have a partner
with trauma, what happens when you need to have an
STI disclosure conversation, how do you support someone who's going
through a tough time, all of those kinds of things.
So it's it's really Joe Yes Craig myth or truth.
Tampons are a thing myth. No, I didn't read the
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section we have weed tampons are not a thing. They well,
no they don't. That's the thing. They what they're describing
is um suppositories. And they think that because you inserted
into the vagina and the only thing that goes into
the vagina is a tampon, So that's what we're going
to call it. No, no, no, no no, that's the
media fucking things up as usual. I have physically seen
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tampons that have infused. That makes no sense. Well i've
seen them. I mean i've seen that double as pipes
like that doesn't mean yeah, after it works, I'm sharing
with you. I've seen them with CBD infused. And I
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have heard that a couple of companies in the more
recently actually since this came out, have started coming out
with these things. And this is so dumb. It's why
why do you think it's so dumb? Um? For a
lot of reasons. One, if it's infused, it's infused in
what the fibers of the tampon, which is going to
quickly be filled with blood, Like it doesn't make any
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sense as opposed to suppository, which you just put up
and it dissolves into the tissue. So it can actually
be absorbed and do what it's supposed to do. Yeah,
that makes more sense, it does. But people just don't.
They lack nuanced when it comes to sex. Kind of
some things like you said our novelty, right, I mean,
you know the dildo that turns into a pipe. I
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mean you know, people are probably like, oh, and I'll
bet you some assholes smoked it. You know what I'm saying,
No doubt. Yeah, I definitely was literally I mean I
mean literally the ax. But you know, listen. So so
so let me ask you a question. Do you question
does this actually you know cannabis? Does it make you
feel like you want to have sex? Does it make
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you feel good? Is there an emotional attachment to to
making love or having sex or being intimate with another
when you are intoxicated. Well that's three questions. Welcome to
and you don't have to talk like she is. I'm
I like the way he did it because we'll do
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some career counseling letter Blue. It'll be great, send it,
send it all right, So I want to ask him
all at once. I find the characterization of cannabis as
an aphrodisiac reductive. I think that turn on is a
really complex, multifaceted process. And to be like, oh yeah,
I'm going to smoke this joint and then be turned on,
that's so reductive, So like, no, that's not how that works. However,
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there are things that get in the way of intimacy,
right Like we've all run into the stress, pain, feeling
uncomfortable in your body, anxiety about performance. Those kinds of
things can make it really challenging to get into that headspace.
And cannabis, I find can help with those things. They
can help with the anxiety, they can help with the pain,
They can help you be more present in your body
and feel the sensations so that you can really enjoy
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yourself instead of having that thing going in your brain
that you're like, oh god, what if they don't like
what if I have rolls? What if I what if
I lose my direction? What if I come too fast?
What if all that stuff like it just kind of
quiets down. That's from a great guy standpoint, because that's
something I would think about and have thought about. What
are some things from a woman's standpoint? What if he
doesn't like the way I taste? What if I take
too long to come, what if there's too much hair,
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not enough hair. He doesn't like when my lips are
shaped to fast, or I come too I don't think
any guy really put exactly if a guy says a
girl comes too fast, come on, a girl cuts fast.
You're sitting there with a crown on your head, like, yes, yeah,
I'm the man. There's never a problem there. You want
a girl that just boom, squirter, They're done. I'm happy
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it can be. It's interesting because comes this like ego
chip right, like I made her squirt. I am no master,
like no, calm your ship. Like sometimes he's made her
will come no matter what, and sometimes she will not
come no matter what. So like, just take your ego
down a couple of notches. It was it the weed
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we all right. It was the guy she was thinking about,
not you. It was the cbdve been there, right, the
guy she was really thinking about. It's just so funny
because on a book like this, who can everyone benefit
from this? Who reads us? Absolutely? I intentionally made it
very gender neutral, polyamory friendly, queer friendly book. So whatever
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your gender orientation, if you are interested in sex and
you're interested in cannabis, there's something for you in that book.
I love it. I really like that. And I know
Mark was here saying how he incorporated CBD into his
world in life, and he said this on the show.
So I'm trying to make sure I got what's off
limits and what's on limits appropriate in my head. And
he said when him and his wife started incorporating more
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with the CBD and using THHC, he said, his sex
life jumped up tremendously. So Marks another one who instead
of just smoking t C all the time, he went
to the CBD and said his sex life was better.
What is it about CBD that can make a sex
life better? So it's interesting because arguably, between CBD and
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th HC, tch C is better. It has more medicinal properties.
CBD is what my friend Chelsea Seba calls a slutty cannabinoid.
It has weak action at a number of superficial locations. Right.
That's a good analogy, right, And some people need that
versus that I am a proud slut, Like no, no
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shade to sluts, but like sometimes you want something deeper,
and and that's really where cannabis shines. I find that
they work best together. But can CBD is really helpful
for people who are brand new to cannabis, who are
a little bit nervous about the intoxicating effects, who have
heard about the hype and they're like, oh, this must
be the thing that's going to help, And so there
is some placebo effect at work there, right, Like if
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you think that this is going to calm you down,
this little five milligram gummy of CBD, that's not going
to do ship, Let's be honest. But for newbies the
first time, not necessarily, well you never sometimes it and
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little of us of amp drive CBD to get that,
I have driven a lot. You're right, No, I do agree,
And a lot could be A lot could be a
taster to the virgin version. We take for granted that,
you know what I mean, we take one of those tasters,
it does nothing to us. But my mom goes and
takes that tact. She's laid out with an alcohol going,
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oh my god, I can't believe you know what, you
know what I mean? What about that? The first time
ever taking it? You know, as much as I smoke,
you know what's right, you know what's coming. I can
still do two or three likes of in edible and
I hate it. I don't like it. I mean, I
don't give me a headache, and that's only it's one
of your thirty grams. And I smoke like a freight train.
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So it's not the point of I'm already used to
it and how it affects my how it affects you,
because when you ingest cannabis, it turns into eleven hydroxy
in your gut when it's being digested and metabolized, and
that hits harder and differently than delta nine does for
some people. For most people, I don't know Mark, Mark Washerman.
Sit there. This guy can't eat grams and not my brother,
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my wife. My wife will eat them all night long ago.
These things suck big, throw up all days. I used
to do a hundred fifty and be like, these things suck.
It's funny how some people hit some different than anything
anything over thirty. I'm like, no matter or having not
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micro dosa. Remember, no matter what you're taking, you can
always dose up. You can't. That is exactly right. You
can always always add, you can't subtract. And so I
say start logo slow, not just with edibles, with anything,
especially when it comes to sex. Like you have these
strains that have TCHC that is too much, that is unnecessary,
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is plenty and just a hit, maybe two hits, and
you want to know what's going to happen before you
gamble date night on it. Which is why I always
tell everyone you got a masturbate, You got to try
new ship it and masturbate and see how it makes
you feel, see if it gets you closer to pleasure
or further away from pleasure, and then decide how you
wanted to do so you some cannabis, masturbate on your
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own at night, daytime, whenever you're comfortable. But I actually
love that suggestion. Actually do a little honey honey again.
I'm trying some new honey hit. This coach made me
do it. It makes sense, you know. I think I
want to try it right now, anybody right now, just holdice,
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I'm trying it right now. Hold on. Actually meant to
Sex and Relationship coach. You were the Sexpert of the Year.
You won the award. Congratulations. How did you find this out?
Where was this award given? What was this? Yeah? So,
the XPIZ Awards is one of the two big award
shows in the adult industry, the other one being the
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Avian Awards, which is like the Oscars of porn. I
like to go to that in Vegas every year. Well
when before it right, we might we might be there
normally there it's good times. I love it and x
BIZ is the l a show. And so I had
been nominated for three years prior and every year I'm like,
maybe this year I'll win, Maybe this year I'll win.
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And then in nineteen I was on the cover of
Sexual Health magazine as America's High Priests of Pleasure. And
the following year I was lucky enough to win Sex
for the Year, which is congratulation cool because I get
to start every bio for the rest of my life
as award winning. That's always key, right right, That makes
for a good bio intro, Like, not only am I
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a sex therapist can can help you, but I'm also
award winning sex therapists. Yes, that's all cool too. And
now I hear you have a couple's retreat and women's retreat.
Where is this at the Coval the Corral Cove Wellness
World in Jamaica? What is that with? Is that with us?
We love Keiko? I thought this was her spot. I
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love Keiko. She is their director of education, and she
brought me on. My boyfriend and I are gonna be
doing the couple's retreat together over Halloween weekend, and then
he's going to fly home and I'm going to stay
for another week and do a week long woman's retreat
and it is going to be suspect. Oh, we need
to fly up that week. Maybe y'all need to come
out for that. How do people find out about this?
You can go to Coral Cove's website, um and under
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the events tab they're both listed and you can they're
actually taking reservations now. And I know that we're going
to sell out. You know, we're just at a call
with her earlier to day. She was on a call
with her. Yeah, yeah, we were all with earlier today.
She's friends and family and she's a sexy one. Actually,
wanna wanna Jason Williams, Yeah, Jason Williams. Want to want
to competition to go out there to Cape cod to
their location there. Actually want a competition. So and how
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can people get ahold of you? Actually, just go to
the I G. You can follow me on Instagram for sure.
I'm also on my website can asexual dot com. You
can find me and book a discovery call. Actually just
on board a new set of clients this morning. I
love working with couples to help them, you know, address
that they that are getting in the way and really
uplevel their communication and restart the intimacy that kind of
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gets stale after a while. That's very normal for couples
as they are. What are some of the problems I
hope that book I will absolutely this for you guys. Actually,
what are some of the problems that you normally hear? Oh, yeah,
with couples, Like you know what, what's some of the
good things to help a couple out there that's listening going?
You know, me and my wife have some problems out there.
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We haven't had sex an x amount of time. What's
good to restarted up a little bit. One of the
most common things that couples come to me for is
something called desire discrepancy, which is one partner is more
interested in having sex more frequently than the other. And
so what that typically comes down to, like we used
to call it like the lower desire partner. Oh, there's
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something wrong with the lower desire partners. So they've got
to like really up level their desire. No no, No.
What we've learned is that often it's because the lower
the quote lower desire partner is discerning. It's because the
sex isn't that pleasurable for them. And so really what
you want to think about is whoever is not as interested,
what would make it more interesting for them, what would
make it more fun for them, and that they would
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actually maybe not maybe maybe, because porn can really create
a lot of anxiety for folks when if they think
that they have to emulate that. People watch it and
think that it's sex education and it's not. It is
a fantasy. You are watching sci fi. These are professionals
on a closed course. You don't see the lube tucked
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behind the cushion. You don't see the huge butt plug
that she was wearing before she did that double anal scene.
And I know this because a lot of my friends
are porn stars. Like people hold themselves to these standards
of like, my body doesn't do that, my my sex
doesn't look like that, what's wrong with me? And it's like, well,
they're they're holding their bodies in a way that's gonna
be good for camera angles, not pleasure. So it's porn
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is fine if that works for you if if it's
a thing that turns you on. But I find erotica
is actually a lot more popular with my clients where
they want to read and imagine what's happening instead of
seeing it depicted for them. So, actually, the person who
is under under sex so to speak, using that terminology,
what if you asked them what would help and they
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pull the classic answer I don't know which right, I
would imagine that that's gonna be. No, I'm just trying
to be, you know, an interviewer trying to help and
say the person is going, which I find to be
most problems with most people. I don't know right, that's
the answer to a lot of people because they don't
and it's it sucks for them. How do you help
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them explore the I don't know, Joe, what you need
is testostrum yourself. I've been telling you trying to get
a shot dog tryans lion, dude, who you I'm sitting
here hard right now and I'm looking at you right
when you walked in, I didn't sound like looking for
quarters of dropping your shirt. I didn't know what to do.
I'm like, you want a silver dollar? G's within boobs?
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Go ahead, Sorry Craig, Why do you make me go there?
St quarters? Come on? Well, I didn't know if I
can play the game, but it was a sorry Mr
Player over here, I would have dropped bell in there.
So this person I don't know the answer. So the
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first question I would have for that person who's like
I don't know is what have you tried? Right? Like
process of elimination? Whenever you're sitting down with someone, you're like,
I need to understand what's going on with you? What
hasn't worked so far? Or And this is my favorite question.
I got this directly from Dr Peggy kin Plots is
an amazing sex researcher. Tell me about the sex you
don't want to be having because they start to go
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into and it's almost verbatim every person they're like, well,
my partner like gets on top of me and we
start kissing, and then they like go right for penetration,
and then they like kind of thrust around for like
a couple of minutes, and then they come and then
it's over. And I'm like, I love sex, and I
wouldn't want to have that kind of sex either. So
let's start with how to make this feel good? For you.
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What do you need to be in a sexually receptive headspace?
Do you need more talk? Do you need phones away?
Do you need some music? Do you need some incense?
Do you need a BackRub? Do you need a hot bath? Like?
Let's talk about how to get you into that space
and from there what would be fun for you? What
are your top three favorite things to do with your partner.
Maybe none of them are penetration. Let's take that off
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the table so you don't have to stress about it.
Let's find other ways to connect. Because I hate that
four play has become like everything before penetration. That's bullshit.
Sex is any act consensual for the purpose of pleasure.
I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Bill
Clinton like ruined it for everybody. No, that was sex, Sorry, bro, Like,
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I don't think anybody butt into that any actually, actually listen,
I love the way you said that that was super
important is as I think men, we you know, we're
tending to think that kissing for two point two seconds
and rubbing some boobies and touching the but you know,
is is for play. And then and then they go
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straight to the hammer, you know, the hammer. And I
think there's a problem with that, the problem for women
especially because for us it's like, oh, that is what
they want, right, you know what I'm saying. They think
that that's but women are so much more sensual. They
really want to just get into it. And not only that, Actually,
you're so in tune with yourself. Can you educate everyone
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out there, especially more you're a female. What are some
of the things that you like that you can say?
Because everything that you just said was so profound of
getting out of somebody, how does one like you relate
to going this is what I would like? So therefore,
maybe someone can spark theirtetic going yes, you know what,
maybe I would try that taking notes, Joe, go ahead,
I'm ready, I got the camera rolling. What do you
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mean I'm getting a copy of this. I'm just clicked,
Like alright, cool sold. One of the most important things
that I find that people don't realize because we are
not taught pleasure based an out of me. It's nobody's fault.
It's just as an adult as your possibility to learn
these things is that the clip has legs, y'all. Everybody
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thinks that just this little button at the top that's
the jam, and like props. I'm I'm fully excited. Now
away have props. I don't know whatever. That's like a
service to my clients. I have been going out on
tender DAGs just to see like what my clients are
dealing with in the wild. And let me just tell you,
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having my scratched like a goddamn mosquito bite is not
fucking it. What about the game? Yeah, don't don't, Okay,
just just wander like I'm trying to turn the game over.
They want to punish a friend of mine. What I
find a lot of times with with heterosexual men is
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that they try to have sex the way that they
enjoy having sex, which we all do that in relationships.
We give in the way that we think that we
would want to receive, like all of that, But when
it comes to sex, you really need to check in
with the other person in and be like, hey, can
you show me how you like to be touched? I
would really like to touch you exactly the way you
want and have the masturbate in front of you for
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a couple of minutes and fucking take notes, because what
if they bring the neighbor in and hey, look at
the way the neighbor doesn't mean that already, it's not
we're talking an interviewing or you can't even ask your
question cause you can't move stiff. He's all these pops
all right next to are they can I smell it?
Let you go in it? So go ahead, please ask me.
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But look, okay, So the clip has legs. The clip
and the penis are anatomically the same. But while the
penis is external, the clip is internal. So this little
nubbin at the top, that's what you see on the outside.
All of the rest of this is internal, and it
gets completely ignored by most people. I talked to women,
I'm like, did you know your clip has legs? They're like,
my clip has what now? Legs? So these two things
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are called vestibular bulbs, and that is like the corpus
cavernosa of your penis. So that's like the bottom with
two chambers, and then these are the legs, and your
whole clip gets an erection just like a penis. It
is made out of exactly the same material, it's just
organized differently, and so you can play with this and
when it gets erect, this causes swelling right around the
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vaginal opening, the most sensitive part of the vagina is
right around the opening. So this like jamming into the
back wall, like nobody's into this. This is not a skill.
I agree, I see. Although when you watch porn, it
looks like that's what they're gonna do. That's what's so crazy,
and so this is why you can't watch porness sex
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ed and it's so fucking crazy actually, because let's just
think about who sits there though, I mean, and teaches
the young or any of us growing up unless you
find a sex therapist. Nobody teaches unless you find a woman.
And then at what certain points you feel like it's
borderline tabooish. Hey, show me how you masterbate. Fuck you
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slap you in the face. Maybe you know what I mean,
like you master bate? Okay, I will, but you know
what I mean, Like some people aren't so I mean,
some people might take it offensive. Well, then maybe you
shouldn't be with him. I'm problem. And that's what I mean,
Like we are so shut down because we're told from
a very early age that sexes everything, but it's bad.
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Don't be smoking weed, yeah, and don't be smoking weed.
And the double taboos and now we're saying do both
of them for a more pleasurable experience. Well, and some
of cannabis is really I find to help people like
fight against all of the programming they have around. It's
wrong for me to want these things. It's wrong for
me to have these kinky things. Like me, here's my kink.
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I have a huge daddy girl thing. I love being
daddy's a little girl. It totally turns me on. It
is hot as fun and like, oh my god, that's
are you like attracted to your dad? Like what is it? No,
it's fantasy, guys, Like, it's just Craig really got excited
right now. He's like, hey, like you here girl. So
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I think it's important for us to be able to
own our desires in a public form, you know, not
in an inappropriate way we're making when adults around and
you're having a conversation where everybody wants to hear this.
I know you guys want to hear being able to
be unapologetic and honest about your desires and be like, yeah,
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that fucking turns me on, and there's nothing wrong with it. No,
I like. I like communication. I think it's the most
powerful form of being able to enjoy another person. And
I think a lot of people don't have that, like, hey,
we should talk about this, and that's the unfortunate part.
And that's what makes relationships I think goes stale because
of sex purposes and or making love or being erotic,
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you know. I think people just don't have the ability
to stop and have that conversation with the others. They
just go, let's do this and let's well. And a
lot of people to get so busy in life. There's
ones who have the you know, you have a house
full of kids, it's you have in laws. Maybe they're
you know, they're named the scenario that you know, you
can't even make time too busy meets you're cheating. Now
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that's another good on Chronic pain is another on his back,
her back hurt, they get bad legs, a bunch of excuses. Well,
I don't know what it's not about us, you guys.
I'm saying these are common things that I've heard from
actually interviewing other people, and I'm sure Ashley's heard from
it from hundreds of clients of ourselves. I mean, these
are real things maybe that we don't associate with. And
I've been in times where I've been too tired, hurting
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my body as well, And I'm like, I'm cool. You
know what I mean. I don't even try, but can
talk about it too bad? This is right here. It's
two guys who can't have this conversation. This is what
I'm saying. No, what I'm saying is it's better to
actually talk about it in full form, like don't be afraid,
don't be afraid ed he is, that's what he is doing.
I don't even understand, and I don't think I actually
understands that you both are saying either, which like nobody
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in the room understands where you two are at right now.
But it's cool. Are the listener, hey, but Joe, the
whole country does. We'll be right back after the spring.
(38:30):
Take a hit, get lit, sit back and enjoy cannabis
talk one on one right here with Blue Joe, Grande,
Mark and Craig Washerman. And with this Joe is Ashley
and Ashley. You know what time it is? What time is?
It's dime time, dime time. Take a hit of your dimetime, folks.
Ashley as that we're talking about all this, I've seen
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something about cannabis lube and how you can make it
your own. Talk about that. So I'm so glad that
you brought this up because, in response to what we
were just talking about with pain coming up, a lot
of women more than sixty experience what's called pain with penetration,
and so that means that when they are being penetrated,
it hurts, and that makes you kind of not want
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to be penetrated, right, Like, why would you want to
do something that's painful. That's why a lot of people
don't enjoy anal because it hurts. It should not hurt.
Just to be clear, anal should not should not hurt.
If it hurts, you're doing it wrong. Really. Oh yeah,
we'll get into that. All those years I've been doing
it wrong. Do you have just some stretching, right? Get
your stretch anything stretching communicating? You know, I'm the little
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boy hearing you guys are worse than me right now,
and I love it. And I don't invite me to
the party because once I go, you know, I don't stop,
so it's hard for me to come back. I'm trying
to be professional jackass. But in terms of weed lube, um,
the thing that actually got me turned onto sex and
cannabis was that I had pain with penetration, and I
found this company called I'm back then I was also
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having pain with anal, but that's when I was a
baby sex educator. I don't know better. But Fouria made
a th HC lube back in the day, back when
I first moved to California, and that was the first
thing that allowed me to have penetrative sex without pain,
and my brain went, holy sh it, sex can be amazing.
From the beginning whole, I didn't even know that was possible,
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and so no one in the sex world was talking
about sex and cannabis. So I'm like, this could be
my niche. And now here I am, many many years later,
still working with Fouria and have tried a number of
others over the time, including brewing my own, which there's
a recipe in the book to make your own. You
can totally do it at home. It's really easy because
you know, if people live in Prohibition states, it can
be hard to get your hands on. So just if
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you have a crock pot, you can make your own
weed loom. And I mean, obviously you need weed also,
but it's oil based. So the important thing to know
about weed lube oil bases. You cannot use it with
latex condoms. Oil degrades latex. So you want to use
nitrial or polyurething unless you wanted to break on accident.
You don't want that to have and it really didn't
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want to wear it anyways, right, so don't do that.
You want to use barriers that are oil compatible, and
or if you're fluid bonded with your partner then it
doesn't matter and you're not condoms anyway. But it's really
more of a marinade than a lube. And what I
mean by that is that you have to let it
absorb for twenty thirty even forty minutes optimally, So that
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actually requires some forethought of like that's some serious four yes,
exactly minutes before. I like that is that a fact?
That that is a fact? So you would put it
in thirty minutes before. So right when you go to dinner,
put it on, I start early, Yeah, you know what
I meant, and keep keep going on date night, put
it on before right before, keep applying throughout the night. Right, absolutely,
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that'd better. Right, well, yeah, clearly, right, you start on
and you kind of just keep going. So now that
helps with that. Let's let's go to what you said earlier,
which you said anals shouldn't hurt. Yes, okay, anal should
not hurt. Here's the thing. Your ass has two sets
of stincter. Muscle is the internal and the external sphincter.
We're gonna get nerdy for a sec. You only have
control over the external ones. That's like when when your
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boss calls and you didn't do your ship and you're
like that clench, that's your external sphincter. Okay, okay, we
all did it right now, we've been there, But I
feel like that one. I'm about to high like a
high spot and I looked down. I'm like, yeah, that one.
When you are going to be the recipient of anal,
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the thing you have to keep in mind it is
about the receiver's pleasure. So often I get guys that
write to me and they're like, how do I get
my girlfriend to try ANAL? I'm like, make it about her,
not about you getting stick your dick in her ass.
It's gotta be and she's going to enjoy it if
she has to enjoy or whoever's receiving. You know, I
don't want to assign gender, like whoever taken in the
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ass needs to enjoy it, so so you want to
give it lots of time. You want to start very small.
Don't go from zero to cock. Start with a pinky,
Start with a finger, very slowly, start with external massage.
But breathe. Relax you know you can actually clench and
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then intentionally relax as you exhale. You tend to release
your muscles on the exhale, and then just communicate, have
lots of Is this okay? Are you ready for me
to penetrate you? Do you need anything different? Do you
want me to stop? Do you want me to pull out?
Like start with and now you put the finger in
and they tighten up, right, so then you go, okay, pause,
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Can you breathe with me? And you slow down? You
go so slow. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
It could take you months years to actually penetrate with
something bigger than a finger. That's okay. It's all about
enjoying the process. But if you start to do something
and they're like owow, don't keep going, don't override it,
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don't It's got to be about their pleasure because if
it feels good for it, they're gonna want it more.
And then what if during that time, and you're doing
the as rub, you're doing the pinkle, hide the pinky,
and then the other finger, and then you're bringing finger
and you know you're moving on, but then you go
limp okay, you turn around. Then then you turn around
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and you go, hey, turn around work. I don't know
you're the sex that I'm trying to interview her. I
don't know you're an interviewer. I don't know you're here
for an interview. Welcome Blue, thank you for coming to
the show. Conversate. I didn't know you wrote the book.
I'm sorry she wrote the book. I'm trying to ask her,
try to actually ask her an expert, trying to get
the expert advice right here. I forgot you really needed
to use her finger on your butt? Can I can
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I get the answer from her? I don't want to
hear your voices. It's clearly I want to hear her
tell me what she's gonna do, you idiots cases, that's
the real real advice. I know it is. Next question.
Next people assuming that they are actually ready for a
penis and you are not in a place to be
able to do that because of a wreck tile. No,
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not even dysfunctions, challenges. Okay, there are a thousand reasons
why you might not be hard. I tell people that
play with penises all the time, like, if it kills limp,
don't panic, it's fine. It still feels really good to
touch it, even if it's not hard, like back me
up on this guy's it's still real sensitive. And if
it's limp, but the whole thing, you don't have to
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touch yours right now, dude, geez, you can use a dildo,
you can use a butt plug, you can use more fingers,
you can go. Well, that's as far as we're gonna
go this time, until next time, until the next episode,
right game, Just a long bake your time. And you
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also have a podcast. I do have a what's your
podcast name? It is called Elevated Intimacy Nice and my producer,
Sam is a real delight Sam. Yes, I want to.
I want to go on the show. Sam is also
a sex therapist as well. Yes he is. Sam's all
Sam's licensed. I'm just a coach. But Sam and I
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worked together for many, many years in the past, which
is funny. When he was going to school early on
for it. Also, I didn't know he was actually now
certified to me, I just got accepted it. How he
practiced on you can you get it out? Giggles? You
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look at how happy he is right now. I've never
seen him so giggly and red and he's brighter than
her dress. If you do, you do. You can't even
look that way because he looks straight at your boobs,
which I love about him. He can't even turn your way.
He's turned our ways hard to miss. I mean, jee's
when they walked in the door, I was like, he's
actually coming with you too. Every once in a while
they bring me along. Actually do people do people take
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what you do the wrong way? I mean sometimes you
know what I mean. Sometimes it's like it's like it
could be like cannabis and sex. It's sometime, you know,
sometimes people sex and relationship coach, you're a hard yeah
or what not? I mean what you know versus the
education side, because obviously we see the education side of
cannabis and we get it to people are like, or
you're in the cannabis industry and dealers. Yeah, okay, you
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know they think it's a joke. It's nice to meet
you too. People think that I'm a porn star, not
that there's anything wrong with being a porn star. But
that's not what I do presently. I have done porn
in the past. Way. Yeah, I shot a scene Nina
Hartley away back in the day. Oh look at you.
So but you know, people think that I'm important, people
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think that I'm a fucking whore, like whatever, Like it's
fine for everybody closed doors. Everybody doesn't care. Well, let's
go deeper. What does the family say about it? Mom
and dad? Um, So, my mom and I don't talk,
but not because of that, because of other things. But
my dad is incredibly supportive of what I do. And
my little brother also, My little brother is a West
Point graduate and is in the army. He's married, he's monogamous.
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Like our lives could not be more different. My dad
works for the federal government. He's conservative. He lives in rold, Pennsylvania,
and he like goes up to people at the grocery
stories like, do you know the clip has legs? My
daughter is a sex said to care. Let me show
you what my daughter taught me on the phone. Let
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me see if I mean yeah, so that makes and
and your boyfriend, how did you meet him? Do all
this or something? Random. Um. Funny enough. My boyfriend I
met at a sex party. We're non monogamous, so he's
married on and his wife knows, and he has other lovers.
I have other lovers. And yes, six years ago. Actually
we just celebrated anniversary. We were both at a sex
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party that a mutual friend was having. I spotted him
across the room and I was like, boy, he's really hot.
I hope he likes me. That would be really cool.
And we ended up having sex that night. It was spectacular,
and we've been having sex. Explain a little more what
a sex party is and how one gets invited. Well,
in the pre cannabis day or in the pre COVID days,
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I used to host them, but it less so these
days because I don't want to have a super spreader event.
But literally, literally and figuratively, it is when a bunch
of adults. This is not to be confused with like
a swinger party or an orgy, because there are, and
those are fine, and that's that's great. That's not what
these are. This is about adults coming together and it's
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a very consent focused environment. It's a place to to
practice coming up to someone and saying hey, Joe, I
would like to play with your nipples and give you
a BackRub. How does that sound? And then you can say, no, thanks,
that doesn't really sound good to me, and I'll go
my favorites by the way, nipples back, I'll go, God, God,
this wasn't about you, she asked. She talked to me,
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do you hear say? So? Continue? So somebody would come
up and say would come up and say that, and
you could say, yeah, that would be I would also
be interested in doing X, Y Z to you. How
does that sound? And I could say, well, I'm up
for X and Z, but not why, and you negotiate
like grown ups and then you go do the thing.
And I might say, when's the last time you got tested?
What kind barriers do you like to use? What kind
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of relationship agreements should I be aware of that? I
want to be respectful of that. So it's very open communication.
Is it simple as to walking up going, hey, actually
you look very good. I really like your hair and
your style and everything about you, and what would well,
maybe not bad aggressively, but maybe those maybe I'd like
to are is it something what would pleasure you? You
could say that too, It's and could and could I
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do those you could do that go up and have
that style that would be and then I get to
say yes or no, and if I say yes, and
a couple of minutes and I'm like, you know what,
I thought I was going to be into this, but
I'm not. I can just kind of tap you on
the shoulder and be like I'm feeling done, thanks very much.
Off you go, and it's no hard feelings. Nobody gets
upset and like, but we started, we gotta fit no
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no no, no, no, no no, take your blue balls
and go to the bathroom. It is not my responsibility
to take care of your pleasure. You tapped out. I
tapped you out. How many people show up to these
parts for that guy that just you know, I mean,
I just can't perform, right, he just he just get
tapped out, Like I'm dead here. I'm here Because when
someone says no to you, it's a compliment because one,
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they feel safe enough saying no to you, which is
really cool because they trust you to respect their boundaries.
And it's also an opportunity for you to go and
be with somebody who's really excited to be with you,
which I would generally prefer to somebody who's like, man,
I'm counting the minutes till this is over. Like it's
also for the guy that's oversized for a woman like yo,
you're too You're too big for me, Like I'm not
interested in that, Like you know, you know what I mean.
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So I typically find that happens with length more so
than girth, although sometimes if people are really narrow they
worry about girth, but really skilled people with big packages
know how to wield it in a way that allows
their partner to have a lot of pleasure. Like one
of my former lovers, it was massive, just like almost
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the size of my forearm, and he kind of almost
made like a like like say when right, like he'd
go in, go and go in. I'd be like, nope,
stop there, and he'd kind of like make a mental
tick mark on his penis and he'd only go into
there so that my service wasn't getting slammed. I found
that very polite. Yeah, that's very nice of man, Dango,
very considerable. Like Pete, that was very nice to you.
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So you know the size of her arm. Guys, let
me just tell you that she was like, well, the
funny randoms were growing up. I was a bouncer and
my buddy Marcus. So you guys haven't met yet, but
one day you're gonna meet him. He's just a massive man.
And he's a massive man down there as well. And
back in the day, we had a couple of women
that were enjoying together and the one goes, I can't
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handle him, he's too much, And I was like, Oh,
come in this room, because it's not that bad over here.
I got better yet, stay there. I'll come in there next.
And yeah, exactly to where there was. I've been in
a situation where you guys meet my boy markets He's
just huge. But the point is it's great when people
can say that Craigs like, you know, it's Craig. I
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can't wait for him to slap you in the face.
You're gonna watch for sure, Oh, Ashley, I can't wait
to see more about your whole thing, can you. Canna
sexual dot com is the website on Instagram at Canna
sexual c A N N A S c x U
A L. We'd like to do the high five with you,
if that's okay, bring it on. Yeah. So, actually, question
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number one, how old were you the first time you
smoked cannabis and where'd you get it from? The first
time I smoked cannabis was actually when I was in
graduate stool graduate school studying philosophy. To absolutely no one's surprise,
my cohort were a bunch of stoners, because that's pretty
much the only way you can get through Heidegger and
um we were at somebody's house. They had a gravity bog.
(53:47):
I was like, yeah, I've never spoke before, and they're like,
we can fix that. I took one hit. I was
stoned out of my mind, but in a really pleasant,
happy way. So I sat down on this love sack
and we watched Empire records and I felt like I
was in a coon. This is really great with safe
people who trusted I trusted, and they took good care
of me. It's always nice. Question number two, what is
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your favorite way to use d all of the above. Um,
I just got a puff co peek a couple of
months ago, and so doing little micro dabs is my jam.
I like to do a little like Pinhead, like little
taster dabs are really good. I love vaping flour from
my vapex sale, and I also like tinctures before bed.
(54:33):
You know, a little bit is good for me, and
then uh, I mean we loube obviously in suppositories. I
swear by suppositories. Nice. Question number three of the high
five with Asley mentor yes, are you ready? I'm ready?
Craziest place you've ever used cannabis? We could actually say
(54:53):
sex all these two with her. Yeah, sex, everything else
can go the same way, But I guess from sex
and like particularly crazy place I've had sex, Like see,
I'm already on sex. I have not smoked weed in
particularly crazy places. I mean I've hot boxed plenty of times,
and I've got I've had high experiences with people I
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wouldn't have expected, Like I was at a party with
Melissa Ethridge and got high there in this like gorgeous
mansion in Orange County. So that's that's more of the
crazy for me being from this like small rural town
in Pennsylvania where god, it was that the mansion up
on the hill. It was not the O C Mansion
up on the hill. This was like an irvine and
like two gates to get to this house. It was wild.
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Question number four, what is your go to Munchy's after
you get high? Ruffles potato chips? Well, kind of French
onion dep nice. I just had some cheddar cream and
I do just a plane. I just had. And I
don't know why My wife bought him. She yells at
me when I bought him. She bought them for the kids,
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and I was like, oh, what do the thing gets
the I can't keep him in the house because there
is no stuffing point between opening the bag and the
bottom of the bag. She's a Costco sized bag dog.
What are those doing? Give me some of them kids,
all right? Question number five, If you could smoke cannabis
with anyone dead or alive, who would it be? And
why May? West? May? Why is the name shelth familiar?
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But I can't put you too young? Who's my West?
She is this hilarious body actress from decades and decades ago, yeah,
thirties or forties, and she's sassy and she's sexual and
original Maryland I think, yeah, exactly hilarious. And you know
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one of her favorite my quotes from her that I
love very much is when I'm good, I'm very good,
and when I'm bad, I'm better. Well, you know what,
this show has been better with you want it? Actually,
you do know? Thank you so much. For making us
better and you can have me anytime you want me.
Thank you. I'm consensual with that. Consent first always is
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a big thing you always say, which is great. Real quick, guys,
can everyone leave the room please? All the camera operators?
But right so, I can't leave. I do right here?
He's like this before first time. Actually, did we miss
anything that you want to tell everybody about? Anything else? Oh?
Let's see. I am taking on a couple of new
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Love that I want to enroll. Yeah, I'm sorry you
don't have a pussy, but I'd like to get I mean,
he actually does. It's just inside out. Here is hitting
the table. Yeah, you know what we gotta go. I
gotta go to the bathroom. Well there it is. Guys,
this Cannabis Talk one on one. We want to thank
you all for joining and remember this if no one
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