April 25, 2026 • 28 mins
Today’s guest is Kim Hunt—better known on social media as @SlaytheGOP. She is a political science major who has studied journalism and amassed a social media following of over 650,000 active supporters. Her experience in the foster care system has given her a unique perspective of various societal pitfalls and how to best remedy them.
We discuss her many issues with GOP governance, her issues with Democrats, how content creators fall short with their attempts at journalism and lists her best practices that she observes when recording.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Still broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. Welcome back
to Civic Cipher. I'm your host, Ramsey's jobbing. Shout out
to q Ward, who is taking care of some family
business today, and shout out to our guest Kim Hunt
aka at Slay the GOP. Before we get back to
our conversation, because I know what we're about to talk about,
(00:21):
I want to take a moment to share something with
our listeners. I realize that there's no such thing as
perfect representation unless I suppose you represent yourself, and there
is no such thing as a perfect political party. I
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don't want to be irresponsible with a microphone and an
audience ever. And so you know this, of course, But
you know we're about to get into a conversation where
we are going to discuss some of the shortcomings of
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the political parties that we have been subjected to in
this country. At no point am I suggesting, or do
I want either of us to suggest that we don't
want people to vote. We recognize the age old argument,
lesser of two evils, all that sort of stuff, but
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voting shapes the material reality in which we live in
a democracy, and it might move slowly toward what it
is we all want, but it does move, so I
wanted to be responsible and share that, all right. Today's
guest is Kim Hunt, better known on social media as
at slay the GOP. She is a political science major
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who has studied journalism and amassed a social media following
of over six hundred and fifty thousand active supporters. Her
experience in the foster care system has given her a
unique perspective on various societal pitfalls and how to best
remedy them. All right, so Kim, let's talk about this
name of yours at slay the GOP. That's a pretty
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intense username and I love it. But talk to us again,
so our listeners get an idea of the type of
content you create, who you are, the type of influence
you have, and you're attempting to make. What are some
of the things that you fundamentally oppose about the GOP
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as far as like policy. I recognize there's a lot
to pick apart with this current administration, but what are
some like foundational things with the GOP that you oppose
that would cause you to have a username like at
slay the GOP.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, I mean, you know, one of the core foundations
of this country was freedom of religion, but that includes
freedom from religion. And I think a lot of our
policies are being shaped around white Christian nationalism. And to
give you an idea of something current, there's a Supreme
There is a Supreme Court hearing regarding a case in
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Colorado where religious schools are trying to fight for their
right to discriminate against students being admitted to their school
if they have gay parents, and Colorado is arguing, if
you are taking taxpayer dollars, you do not have a
right to discriminate against children on the basis of if
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their parents are queer. Those are not policies that would
ever pass under democratic administration.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Well, if you're going to pick one, that's a good one. Yeah.
There is. One of the things I learned long time ago.
It's a funny quick story. I went to a community
college once upon a time, and I took a class
on it might have been a debate class or an
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ethics class, something like that, and we were instructed to
argue pros and cons over some sort of policy, governmental
policy I couldn't remember one hundred year ago. And I
grew up in church, super duper in church, right, And
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so my mental framework was a one to one of
your typical Christian. If it's in the Bible, it's right,
and if it's not in the Bible, you're going to hell. Right.
I didn't do Halloween nothing, you know, because the skeletons
and the demons and devils and stuff like that's not
for me. Right. And this is what I grew up with.
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My father was a minister. My listeners, longtime listeners would
know that. And his father was a minister. So I
come from this long line. So again that's the framework
that I have. And so in this class, I say, well,
you know, this country was founded on xyz biblical principles,
and my instructor immediately said, you mentioned the Bible, your
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argument is out of here, right. And so I in
order to pass that class, I had to develop a
separate framework so that I could argue based on logic,
based on ethics, based on what was morally just not
based on what was biblical. And because in the instructor,
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I'm sure the instructor had the same background as me.
I would if I had guess, but the instructor was
challenging me to meet other people where they were right
and so I think that that is something that is
severely lacking in terms of GOP circles and policy and whatnot.
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And again, they legislate almost directly from the Bible. We
covered a story in a couple of stories in Texas
actually where they are pushing to have the Ten Commandments
in classrooms. I believe Donald Trump was reading the Bible
from the White House or something. Of all people, Donald
Trump hasn't read a book in years. Pat Yes, doesn't
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know any scriptures. You know that viral video where he
was asked, hey, can you tell us your favorite scripture?
And he's like, oh no, that's too personal. Any scripture
just doesn't really matter. Just let the people know. Oh no,
it's deeply personal. I didn't know anything. But these folks
will live and die by that book, which is fine.
They just want everybody else to live and mostly die
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by that book, by their interpretation as we meant of
that book. And so that's a good one to point out.
So at Slay, the GOP feels intense, and your videos are,
to be fair, some of them. Some of them are
less intense, but a lot of them are really intense,
and they have that energy, and I think that's important.
That's necessary because not all of us can do that
all the time, you know, I mean I want to.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, I think they need to be met with that. So,
you know, another example, off the top of my head,
there is a conservative commentator, if you will. His name's
Elijah Shaeffer, and he is very anti abortion. But I
was scrolling on X the other day and there was
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a video of someone actively overdosing, maybe outside of like
a gas station. And so this person is recording the
guy overdosing, and he records a cop showing up to
the scene whip an awesome narcan bringing this guy back
to life.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I think I saw this.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, So Elijah Shaeffer posts the video and he says,
unpopular opinion, but we should just let these people die
when they overdose. It'll solve a lot of problems in
this country. And I'm like, aren't you the same person
who said a life is valuable when they decide it's
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valuable either your pro life or you're not. But you
need to pick aside.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Sure. Sure. Yeah. One of the things that another one
of the things that we point out quite a bit
is Republican hypocrisy double speaking out of both sides of
their mouth when it's convenient, because I'm sure if they're
if they had a person in their life that became
addicted in their family and they were overdosing, even if
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they weren't addicted, they were just overdosing, they would not
feel that way and they would share that opinion. And
the thing is, since there's a record of everything they say,
you can see, like across the board, I haven't found
one person that's not been consistent in their morality, but
you can see where they're where their line is. Oh,
if it's for me, it's all good. If it's for y'all,
we don't want it. And typically we know what is
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a trend of that falling on the color line, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Well, you don't just.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Have problems with the geopay you rightfully so will point
out inconsistencies on the left. You will criticize justifiably influencers.
You know. Dean Withers comes to mind as a name
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that you've mentioned in a recent video. Dean Wethers is
a person who's content we've shared. We think, I'm sure
you would agree. He's a masterful orator and a masterful debater.
But that doesn't mean that across the board. He's done
everything right. I'm sure you wouldn't agree that I've done
everything right if you knew everything I posted, and I
haven't either, you know, yeah, sure, So talk a little
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bit about maybe some of the issues you take with
democrats in general, just so that we understand and kind
of what your approach to democrats is now that we
understand your approach to conservatives.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So here's the thing. A lot of my content is
debunking or just calling out hypocrisy, but I don't platform
these people. So my issue, which I've spoken on with
Dean Wethers, is he is constantly sitting in the same
spaces as people who want to justify slavery, or they'll
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speak on subjects like why racism is actually a good thing,
and I think it really just validates that person. It's
telling them your opinion means enough for me to sit
in a room with you and talk about it. Right,
And I think you can disagree with someone without involving them. Okay,
So you know, I could show a clip of someone
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saying something stupid and then I can be like, this
is stupid. I don't have to sit with them and
give them my time. They're not worth it. So I
think with you know, platforms like Jubilee, they are validating Nazis.
They're literally validating Nazis, and there's nothing to argue when
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it comes to human rights.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
To your point, Oprah, many years ago, she had on
one of her shows Klansmen and they were on the
stage and there was an audience there, and she's thinking,
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like a I think a morally just person, right, She's thinking,
these clansmen are going to come into my studio. My
audience are going to be full of decent folks, at
least not racist folks, because they're coming to a black
woman's show, and we're going to convince these knats or
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these clansmen that they're wrong. That's what she thought. This
might have been in the eighties, maybe early nineties when
this took place, and you can look this up. You know,
I've seen this multiple times over the years, long before
I was ever on the radio myself. And she reflects
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back on that interaction on her show and she said,
in the middle of this conversation with these Nazi folks,
I realized, oh my god, they've won. They came up
here with no facts, all feelings. They came up here
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with nothing that is consistent with indeed our nature to
cooperate with fellow homo sapien safeis they are, by all accounts,
the bad guys, and they've won. And the reason that
they've won is because they're on this show, one of
the big shows in the country, getting to say that, yeah,
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and even if ninety nine percent of the people realize
they're full of crap, that one percent that looks at
them and says, yeah, got they got it right, and
they realize them as a lightning rod for their frustration
at home the viewer. Then they grow their ranks and
it might be a slow grind for them, but they
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won because they got platformed. And so this is something
that we've brought into this show. I think Q feels
kind of how you feel like you don't have these
conversations with these people, you're just giving them a platform. Yeah,
and I do as well. I also recognize that it's
literally politics when it comes to the Federal Communication Commission,
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and so you have to kind of navigate some tricky
waters there, and so we've had to have tough conversations
with people we fundamentally disagree with. And I would rather
not have had those conversations. However, I recognize that you're
You're absolutely right. That's something I brought with me is
that when you have a microphone, it's not just a
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cool job. It's a tremendous responsibility. And to your point,
there are some people that might lose sight of that
from time to time. Now, whether Dean or any of
the other folks that you've pointed out to where their
line is for that, you know, I couldn't say, but
I respect and appreciate you doing that with them any reflection,
because I want to follow that.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
What I want to say is I believe there is
a statistic that debates only change maybe less than six
percent of people's minds. Okay, So the people that are
going into this debate, whether it's the people debating or
the audience, they're not listening to hear a different perspective.
They're listening because they want to hear their own thoughts validated.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And that's why I would not want to engage with
that rhetric because that helps, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
It helps to know that, Yeah, because I could definitely
see people showing up to something like that so that
they can win, or their side could win rather than
to actually get new information.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, and there's a whole like clip farming aspect to
it too.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Sure, sure understood. So in terms of because we didn't
really nail this one down in terms of the Democratic Party,
because again I want to, you know, make sure that
I believe Democrats need to do better.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Significantly.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
They are doing better than Republicans in my estimation, but
they need to do better as a party themselves. I
think that it's not even just a matter of me thinking,
you know, the data supports this conclusion that Democrats missed
the mark in the last presidential election by simply ignoring
for all intents and purposes, they're a significant amount of
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the voter base that was fundamentally opposed to US operations
or sorry, US support of Israel's operations in the Gaza strip. Yeah,
and that that single issue doesn't happen that same way
Kamala Harris wins that election, you know, assuming Elon must
didn't interfere and all the rest of that stuff didn't
happen in terms of the voter's response to why they
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didn't show up to the polls and voted for no One. Yeah,
that was the major reason. So in terms of where
you see maybe a two three up to you shortcomings
that maybe Democrats need to work on. What would those
be to you?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I'm glad that you brought that up, because I think
there are a lot of people who hold resentment towards
people who withheld their vote for Kamala due to her
stance on Israel. And as someone who voted for her
because it was, in my opinion, a lesser of two
evil situations, I did not at all respect her stance
on Israel. But it's not a single issue because a
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lot of these issues are intersectional. So a lot of
people don't realize that ICE is trained by the IDF,
and a lot of Democrats vote to fund and police. Yeah,
Kamala was going to be strict on the border. That's
something that she openly said. Yeah. So a lot of
these Democratic politicians vote for police funding, they vote for
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ICE funding. Some of them even vote to decrease social
safety nuts as well. But if if you're a Democrat
and you're not running on a platform of abolish ICE
and defund the police, what are you doing to earn
our votes? What is going to be any different in
this country? Sure, you know, because it's it's not enough
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to write a strongly worded letter. You got to walk
the walk. And people like Corey Booker and Hakem Jeffries
are really failing their constituency.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Good. Yeah, and that's and and that is something that's
very challenging for those of us that were once upon
a time rooting for those two right around here, Corey
Booker and HAWKEM. Jeffries are black men. And then when
it comes time to say, hey, this is like Malcolm
X stood with these people, recognize their plight. You know,
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these great leaders from our past stood with these people.
Why are you not standing with these people? And they
say nothing. Then it's like, ah, man, this is not
the point where you want to break down. We have
to recognize that we're in this fight with other people.
And historically, this is something we shared on the show
quite a bit. Historically, black people in this country have
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had the strongest consistent sort of voice in terms of minorities,
and so when you look at the plight of other
smaller groups of people, they have often had to work
with Black people and the apparatus that exists to help
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fortify black people in black issues so that they can
be taken seriously, and in exchange their support grows that
voice of black people. And so there's been this symbiotic
relationship across really all minority communities in this country. And
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it's those folks that get in positions of power that
break rank, that cast a shadow on what should be
illuminated and celebrated. And so that I'm glad you brought
those two names up, because that was something that around
here was deeply disappointing. I've met Corey Booker. I think
he's a great guy. I think that that specific breakdown
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is like it's like the kiss of.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Death, but it should be a deal breaker and anyone.
So that's a better word. And if I could uplift
a black person, I would love to talk about Summerly
because she stands on business and she's against the war,
uron she's against the support of Israel, and she recently
just went viral for standing up to RFK Junior asking
him about what he plans to do about the block
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maternal mortality rate. Absolutely, and I hate I hate that
this im like this administration is so antide I because
we have several DUI hires. Yeah, yeah, both Erica Kirk, Yeah,
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RFK Junior himself, you know. I mean God, I could
talk about the hypocrisy of you know, GOP supporters all
day like when yeah, but like you know, people didn't
trust Joe Biden because his son Hunter Biden was a
drug addict, but then we put a drug addict as
the secretary of Health.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Talk to him.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
But I really appreciate, as someone who has a black mother, summerly,
no one advocates for black people better than black people,
and it's so sad that they have to constantly speak
for themselves, but the people don't listen to them. So
I'm glad that she was on the front lines and
she said, what are you going to do about this issue?
And for R. K. Junior to be like, well, that's divisive.
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We're addressing mortality in general. You can't fix a problem
if you don't focus on the outlier, right, So he's incompetent.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I wonder how he would approach breast cancer, all humans cancer.
You know what, you wouldn't say, that's device if it's
black and white. Oh, they they will insist on there
being a divide there and somehow that is prejudiced against
white men. As often as the argument is it's all selective. Okay, well,
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before we uh, before we let you go, I want
you to what do you say? You know, you make
a lot of content. What do you say when or
maybe what do you do? How do you react when
you encounter maybe a troll, maybe just maybe there's just
a trumper, triple trumper maybe where no matter what you
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say to them, they continue to double and triple down.
And here my follow up question before you answer that one,
what do you say or how do you react to
the rare instance of a Trumper saying, you know what,
I might have called this wrong? How do you approach
that person? So both one will continue to double down,
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one will say, you know what, I called it wrong?
That's on me. Talk to us about that because we're
we're learning that in real time around here.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
So I want to write about so well, I don't
believe in platforming people who just don't generally believe in
human rights. I do believe that a lot of Trumps
supporters feel like they were swindled, and if they're willing
to say I was wrong, then I'm willing to listen,
because you cannot isolate an entire base if you want
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to win elections in the future. You know, we need
to find what our common ground is and how everyone
be equally represented. When it comes to people who are
clearly not going to change their mind, I do my
best to point out the policies they support which affect
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them too. There's only as far as you can go, though. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
The thing that that we've been witnessing around here is
that we'll see folks and we we've you may have
seen this viral video there's a woman she's playing like
a might be a banjo or something, and she basically
sings like, I never thought the leopards would eat my face, right,
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you've seen that. So we play that, you know, every
every so often when we've come across a video where
a person is saying, uh, Caitlyn Jenner with her passport. Yes,
that's another one where she I never thought this would
happen to me, right.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, Or people who voted for Trump and then their
spouse was deported. There you go, they're not even a criminal, thank.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You, thank you. And so when I was saying that
that's sad is because a lot of times people lack
empathy and so they cannot heed the gravity of the
decisions they are making or the people they're empowering with
their vote. They just have no concept of it. Yeah,
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just get rid of all of them, blah blah blah whatever,
and it just doesn't affect them. And then once it does,
they realize, oh, that wasn't meant to affect me. And
then you see them come to terms with the fact that, oh, shoot,
and again rarely does it happen, but it does happen.
They come to terms with the fact that, oh, this
is what other people have been doing, have been going through,
and this is what I've subjected them to with my vote.
(24:50):
I got it wrong. I'm sorry. And again it's infrequent
and really sad that how about this flip this I
forget who it came from. And you know, longtime listeners
will know that we talked about this on the show recently.
Might have been in the last month that a new
term had come about in right wing circles of toxic empathy.
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Isn't that crazy? No, it's not that they made it up, right,
And the idea behind it, of course, as you can
probably imagine, is that your empathy can interfere with things
that are in their estimation reasonable and just right, as
though caring for someone who is in less favorable circumstances
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than you is somehow a like a what's the word
I'm looking for, Like it's somehow a shortcoming or something
like that, and you lose by caring about other people.
And if that's not the intersection of again that weird
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misinterpretation of the Bible, the intersection of that and the
worst iteration of capitalism, I don't know what is. It's
just ugly to.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Your people speaking of capitalism. I think the best way
to dissuade a Trump supporter is to tell them how
things are going to hurt their.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Pockets and that you're right in terms of effective strategy.
And I think what I'm trying to say is it's
sad that it has to be that personal, that people
just lack the capacity to even consider, much less care
about what this must be like for someone else, and
indeed take what they say at face value, because you know,
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it's like people like RFK. They will try to tell
black people what they need, as opposed to listen to
black people say who live the black lives say themselves,
here's what we need. Right, there's this assumption or presumption
that I know more, I'm more intelligent and I think
it's the subtle influence of living in just kind of
this society for a long time. This is a white
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supremacist society. I'm not the person to make that argument.
It's been made long before I was born, right, But
it's the subtle influence of living in that society where
all the judges and all the elected officials and all
the CEOs and all of them are white men that
the I think the default assumption is that white men
know best. And when it comes to Black women mortality,
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infant mortality, sorry, maternal mortality rates, that presumption of RFK
Junior puts this phenomenon on full display.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
But that's where that you know, that mentality of I
don't see color is actually really toxic.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Super toxic. Yeah, so well said, Well, thank you for
coming to the studio to talk to us today. I
think that again, the content that you create is wonderful.
I know that you're kind of just passing through, but
I do appreciate you taking a moment to holler at
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us once again. Today's guest is Kim Hunt, better known
on social media as at slay the gop on all
platforms and let everyone know which platforms you're on.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So you can find me on TikTok, Instagram, X and.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Facebook, all right, and don't forget. She is a political
science major who has study journalism and amass the social
media following of over six hundred and fifty thousand active supporters.
Hopefully we'll be more after this, and her experience in
the foster care system has given her a unique perspective
on various societal pitfalls and how to best remedy them.
I think that you would do well to give her
(28:35):
a follow and give her some support to keep her encouraged.
We know how far that goes around here. And of
course you can follow us on all platforms at Civic Cipher,
that CIBIC, cip H e R, you can find me
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Civic Cipher. And until next time, y'all peace,
Still broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. Welcome back
to Civic Cipher. I'm your host, Ramsey's jobbing. Shout out
to q Ward, who is taking care of some family
business today, and shout out to our guest Kim Hunt
aka at Slay the GOP. Before we get back to
our conversation, because I know what we're about to talk about,
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I want to take a moment to share something with
our listeners. I realize that there's no such thing as
perfect representation unless I suppose you represent yourself, and there
is no such thing as a perfect political party. I
(00:45):
don't want to be irresponsible with a microphone and an
audience ever. And so you know this, of course, But
you know we're about to get into a conversation where
we are going to discuss some of the shortcomings of
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the political parties that we have been subjected to in
this country. At no point am I suggesting, or do
I want either of us to suggest that we don't
want people to vote. We recognize the age old argument,
lesser of two evils, all that sort of stuff, but
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voting shapes the material reality in which we live in
a democracy, and it might move slowly toward what it
is we all want, but it does move, so I
wanted to be responsible and share that, all right. Today's
guest is Kim Hunt, better known on social media as
at slay the GOP. She is a political science major
(01:47):
who has studied journalism and amassed a social media following
of over six hundred and fifty thousand active supporters. Her
experience in the foster care system has given her a
unique perspective on various societal pitfalls and how to best
remedy them. All right, so Kim, let's talk about this
name of yours at slay the GOP. That's a pretty
(02:15):
intense username and I love it. But talk to us again,
so our listeners get an idea of the type of
content you create, who you are, the type of influence
you have, and you're attempting to make. What are some
of the things that you fundamentally oppose about the GOP
(02:37):
as far as like policy. I recognize there's a lot
to pick apart with this current administration, but what are
some like foundational things with the GOP that you oppose
that would cause you to have a username like at
slay the GOP.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, I mean, you know, one of the core foundations
of this country was freedom of religion, but that includes
freedom from religion. And I think a lot of our
policies are being shaped around white Christian nationalism. And to
give you an idea of something current, there's a Supreme
There is a Supreme Court hearing regarding a case in
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Colorado where religious schools are trying to fight for their
right to discriminate against students being admitted to their school
if they have gay parents, and Colorado is arguing, if
you are taking taxpayer dollars, you do not have a
right to discriminate against children on the basis of if
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their parents are queer. Those are not policies that would
ever pass under democratic administration.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Well, if you're going to pick one, that's a good one. Yeah.
There is. One of the things I learned long time ago.
It's a funny quick story. I went to a community
college once upon a time, and I took a class
on it might have been a debate class or an
(04:12):
ethics class, something like that, and we were instructed to
argue pros and cons over some sort of policy, governmental
policy I couldn't remember one hundred year ago. And I
grew up in church, super duper in church, right, And
(04:34):
so my mental framework was a one to one of
your typical Christian. If it's in the Bible, it's right,
and if it's not in the Bible, you're going to hell. Right.
I didn't do Halloween nothing, you know, because the skeletons
and the demons and devils and stuff like that's not
for me. Right. And this is what I grew up with.
(04:55):
My father was a minister. My listeners, longtime listeners would
know that. And his father was a minister. So I
come from this long line. So again that's the framework
that I have. And so in this class, I say, well,
you know, this country was founded on xyz biblical principles,
and my instructor immediately said, you mentioned the Bible, your
(05:17):
argument is out of here, right. And so I in
order to pass that class, I had to develop a
separate framework so that I could argue based on logic,
based on ethics, based on what was morally just not
based on what was biblical. And because in the instructor,
(05:40):
I'm sure the instructor had the same background as me.
I would if I had guess, but the instructor was
challenging me to meet other people where they were right
and so I think that that is something that is
severely lacking in terms of GOP circles and policy and whatnot.
(06:03):
And again, they legislate almost directly from the Bible. We
covered a story in a couple of stories in Texas
actually where they are pushing to have the Ten Commandments
in classrooms. I believe Donald Trump was reading the Bible
from the White House or something. Of all people, Donald
Trump hasn't read a book in years. Pat Yes, doesn't
(06:26):
know any scriptures. You know that viral video where he
was asked, hey, can you tell us your favorite scripture?
And he's like, oh no, that's too personal. Any scripture
just doesn't really matter. Just let the people know. Oh no,
it's deeply personal. I didn't know anything. But these folks
will live and die by that book, which is fine.
They just want everybody else to live and mostly die
(06:47):
by that book, by their interpretation as we meant of
that book. And so that's a good one to point out.
So at Slay, the GOP feels intense, and your videos are,
to be fair, some of them. Some of them are
less intense, but a lot of them are really intense,
and they have that energy, and I think that's important.
That's necessary because not all of us can do that
all the time, you know, I mean I want to.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, I think they need to be met with that. So,
you know, another example, off the top of my head,
there is a conservative commentator, if you will. His name's
Elijah Shaeffer, and he is very anti abortion. But I
was scrolling on X the other day and there was
(07:29):
a video of someone actively overdosing, maybe outside of like
a gas station. And so this person is recording the
guy overdosing, and he records a cop showing up to
the scene whip an awesome narcan bringing this guy back
to life.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I think I saw this.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, So Elijah Shaeffer posts the video and he says,
unpopular opinion, but we should just let these people die
when they overdose. It'll solve a lot of problems in
this country. And I'm like, aren't you the same person
who said a life is valuable when they decide it's
(08:07):
valuable either your pro life or you're not. But you
need to pick aside.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Sure. Sure. Yeah. One of the things that another one
of the things that we point out quite a bit
is Republican hypocrisy double speaking out of both sides of
their mouth when it's convenient, because I'm sure if they're
if they had a person in their life that became
addicted in their family and they were overdosing, even if
(08:39):
they weren't addicted, they were just overdosing, they would not
feel that way and they would share that opinion. And
the thing is, since there's a record of everything they say,
you can see, like across the board, I haven't found
one person that's not been consistent in their morality, but
you can see where they're where their line is. Oh,
if it's for me, it's all good. If it's for y'all,
we don't want it. And typically we know what is
(09:00):
a trend of that falling on the color line, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Well, you don't just.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Have problems with the geopay you rightfully so will point
out inconsistencies on the left. You will criticize justifiably influencers.
You know. Dean Withers comes to mind as a name
(09:30):
that you've mentioned in a recent video. Dean Wethers is
a person who's content we've shared. We think, I'm sure
you would agree. He's a masterful orator and a masterful debater.
But that doesn't mean that across the board. He's done
everything right. I'm sure you wouldn't agree that I've done
everything right if you knew everything I posted, and I
haven't either, you know, yeah, sure, So talk a little
(09:51):
bit about maybe some of the issues you take with
democrats in general, just so that we understand and kind
of what your approach to democrats is now that we
understand your approach to conservatives.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So here's the thing. A lot of my content is
debunking or just calling out hypocrisy, but I don't platform
these people. So my issue, which I've spoken on with
Dean Wethers, is he is constantly sitting in the same
spaces as people who want to justify slavery, or they'll
(10:31):
speak on subjects like why racism is actually a good thing,
and I think it really just validates that person. It's
telling them your opinion means enough for me to sit
in a room with you and talk about it. Right,
And I think you can disagree with someone without involving them. Okay,
So you know, I could show a clip of someone
(10:52):
saying something stupid and then I can be like, this
is stupid. I don't have to sit with them and
give them my time. They're not worth it. So I
think with you know, platforms like Jubilee, they are validating Nazis.
They're literally validating Nazis, and there's nothing to argue when
(11:15):
it comes to human rights.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
To your point, Oprah, many years ago, she had on
one of her shows Klansmen and they were on the
stage and there was an audience there, and she's thinking,
(11:39):
like a I think a morally just person, right, She's thinking,
these clansmen are going to come into my studio. My
audience are going to be full of decent folks, at
least not racist folks, because they're coming to a black
woman's show, and we're going to convince these knats or
(11:59):
these clansmen that they're wrong. That's what she thought. This
might have been in the eighties, maybe early nineties when
this took place, and you can look this up. You know,
I've seen this multiple times over the years, long before
I was ever on the radio myself. And she reflects
(12:20):
back on that interaction on her show and she said,
in the middle of this conversation with these Nazi folks,
I realized, oh my god, they've won. They came up
here with no facts, all feelings. They came up here
(12:41):
with nothing that is consistent with indeed our nature to
cooperate with fellow homo sapien safeis they are, by all accounts,
the bad guys, and they've won. And the reason that
they've won is because they're on this show, one of
the big shows in the country, getting to say that, yeah,
(13:02):
and even if ninety nine percent of the people realize
they're full of crap, that one percent that looks at
them and says, yeah, got they got it right, and
they realize them as a lightning rod for their frustration
at home the viewer. Then they grow their ranks and
it might be a slow grind for them, but they
(13:24):
won because they got platformed. And so this is something
that we've brought into this show. I think Q feels
kind of how you feel like you don't have these
conversations with these people, you're just giving them a platform. Yeah,
and I do as well. I also recognize that it's
literally politics when it comes to the Federal Communication Commission,
(13:46):
and so you have to kind of navigate some tricky
waters there, and so we've had to have tough conversations
with people we fundamentally disagree with. And I would rather
not have had those conversations. However, I recognize that you're
You're absolutely right. That's something I brought with me is
that when you have a microphone, it's not just a
(14:07):
cool job. It's a tremendous responsibility. And to your point,
there are some people that might lose sight of that
from time to time. Now, whether Dean or any of
the other folks that you've pointed out to where their
line is for that, you know, I couldn't say, but
I respect and appreciate you doing that with them any reflection,
because I want to follow that.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
What I want to say is I believe there is
a statistic that debates only change maybe less than six
percent of people's minds. Okay, So the people that are
going into this debate, whether it's the people debating or
the audience, they're not listening to hear a different perspective.
They're listening because they want to hear their own thoughts validated.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And that's why I would not want to engage with
that rhetric because that helps, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
It helps to know that, Yeah, because I could definitely
see people showing up to something like that so that
they can win, or their side could win rather than
to actually get new information.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, and there's a whole like clip farming aspect to
it too.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Sure, sure understood. So in terms of because we didn't
really nail this one down in terms of the Democratic Party,
because again I want to, you know, make sure that
I believe Democrats need to do better.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Significantly.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
They are doing better than Republicans in my estimation, but
they need to do better as a party themselves. I
think that it's not even just a matter of me thinking,
you know, the data supports this conclusion that Democrats missed
the mark in the last presidential election by simply ignoring
for all intents and purposes, they're a significant amount of
(15:45):
the voter base that was fundamentally opposed to US operations
or sorry, US support of Israel's operations in the Gaza strip. Yeah,
and that that single issue doesn't happen that same way
Kamala Harris wins that election, you know, assuming Elon must
didn't interfere and all the rest of that stuff didn't
happen in terms of the voter's response to why they
(16:07):
didn't show up to the polls and voted for no One. Yeah,
that was the major reason. So in terms of where
you see maybe a two three up to you shortcomings
that maybe Democrats need to work on. What would those
be to you?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I'm glad that you brought that up, because I think
there are a lot of people who hold resentment towards
people who withheld their vote for Kamala due to her
stance on Israel. And as someone who voted for her
because it was, in my opinion, a lesser of two
evil situations, I did not at all respect her stance
on Israel. But it's not a single issue because a
(16:49):
lot of these issues are intersectional. So a lot of
people don't realize that ICE is trained by the IDF,
and a lot of Democrats vote to fund and police. Yeah,
Kamala was going to be strict on the border. That's
something that she openly said. Yeah. So a lot of
these Democratic politicians vote for police funding, they vote for
(17:15):
ICE funding. Some of them even vote to decrease social
safety nuts as well. But if if you're a Democrat
and you're not running on a platform of abolish ICE
and defund the police, what are you doing to earn
our votes? What is going to be any different in
this country? Sure, you know, because it's it's not enough
(17:35):
to write a strongly worded letter. You got to walk
the walk. And people like Corey Booker and Hakem Jeffries
are really failing their constituency.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Good. Yeah, and that's and and that is something that's
very challenging for those of us that were once upon
a time rooting for those two right around here, Corey
Booker and HAWKEM. Jeffries are black men. And then when
it comes time to say, hey, this is like Malcolm
X stood with these people, recognize their plight. You know,
(18:08):
these great leaders from our past stood with these people.
Why are you not standing with these people? And they
say nothing. Then it's like, ah, man, this is not
the point where you want to break down. We have
to recognize that we're in this fight with other people.
And historically, this is something we shared on the show
quite a bit. Historically, black people in this country have
(18:28):
had the strongest consistent sort of voice in terms of minorities,
and so when you look at the plight of other
smaller groups of people, they have often had to work
with Black people and the apparatus that exists to help
(18:49):
fortify black people in black issues so that they can
be taken seriously, and in exchange their support grows that
voice of black people. And so there's been this symbiotic
relationship across really all minority communities in this country. And
(19:10):
it's those folks that get in positions of power that
break rank, that cast a shadow on what should be
illuminated and celebrated. And so that I'm glad you brought
those two names up, because that was something that around
here was deeply disappointing. I've met Corey Booker. I think
he's a great guy. I think that that specific breakdown
(19:31):
is like it's like the kiss of.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Death, but it should be a deal breaker and anyone.
So that's a better word. And if I could uplift
a black person, I would love to talk about Summerly
because she stands on business and she's against the war,
uron she's against the support of Israel, and she recently
just went viral for standing up to RFK Junior asking
him about what he plans to do about the block
(19:57):
maternal mortality rate. Absolutely, and I hate I hate that
this im like this administration is so antide I because
we have several DUI hires. Yeah, yeah, both Erica Kirk, Yeah,
(20:19):
RFK Junior himself, you know. I mean God, I could
talk about the hypocrisy of you know, GOP supporters all
day like when yeah, but like you know, people didn't
trust Joe Biden because his son Hunter Biden was a
drug addict, but then we put a drug addict as
the secretary of Health.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Talk to him.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
But I really appreciate, as someone who has a black mother, summerly,
no one advocates for black people better than black people,
and it's so sad that they have to constantly speak
for themselves, but the people don't listen to them. So
I'm glad that she was on the front lines and
she said, what are you going to do about this issue?
And for R. K. Junior to be like, well, that's divisive.
(21:00):
We're addressing mortality in general. You can't fix a problem
if you don't focus on the outlier, right, So he's incompetent.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I wonder how he would approach breast cancer, all humans cancer.
You know what, you wouldn't say, that's device if it's
black and white. Oh, they they will insist on there
being a divide there and somehow that is prejudiced against
white men. As often as the argument is it's all selective. Okay, well,
(21:35):
before we uh, before we let you go, I want
you to what do you say? You know, you make
a lot of content. What do you say when or
maybe what do you do? How do you react when
you encounter maybe a troll, maybe just maybe there's just
a trumper, triple trumper maybe where no matter what you
(22:00):
say to them, they continue to double and triple down.
And here my follow up question before you answer that one,
what do you say or how do you react to
the rare instance of a Trumper saying, you know what,
I might have called this wrong? How do you approach
that person? So both one will continue to double down,
(22:22):
one will say, you know what, I called it wrong?
That's on me. Talk to us about that because we're
we're learning that in real time around here.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
So I want to write about so well, I don't
believe in platforming people who just don't generally believe in
human rights. I do believe that a lot of Trumps
supporters feel like they were swindled, and if they're willing
to say I was wrong, then I'm willing to listen,
because you cannot isolate an entire base if you want
(22:53):
to win elections in the future. You know, we need
to find what our common ground is and how everyone
be equally represented. When it comes to people who are
clearly not going to change their mind, I do my
best to point out the policies they support which affect
(23:14):
them too. There's only as far as you can go, though. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
The thing that that we've been witnessing around here is
that we'll see folks and we we've you may have
seen this viral video there's a woman she's playing like
a might be a banjo or something, and she basically
sings like, I never thought the leopards would eat my face, right,
(23:45):
you've seen that. So we play that, you know, every
every so often when we've come across a video where
a person is saying, uh, Caitlyn Jenner with her passport. Yes,
that's another one where she I never thought this would
happen to me, right.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, Or people who voted for Trump and then their
spouse was deported. There you go, they're not even a criminal, thank.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You, thank you. And so when I was saying that
that's sad is because a lot of times people lack
empathy and so they cannot heed the gravity of the
decisions they are making or the people they're empowering with
their vote. They just have no concept of it. Yeah,
(24:29):
just get rid of all of them, blah blah blah whatever,
and it just doesn't affect them. And then once it does,
they realize, oh, that wasn't meant to affect me. And
then you see them come to terms with the fact that, oh, shoot,
and again rarely does it happen, but it does happen.
They come to terms with the fact that, oh, this
is what other people have been doing, have been going through,
and this is what I've subjected them to with my vote.
(24:50):
I got it wrong. I'm sorry. And again it's infrequent
and really sad that how about this flip this I
forget who it came from. And you know, longtime listeners
will know that we talked about this on the show recently.
Might have been in the last month that a new
term had come about in right wing circles of toxic empathy.
(25:16):
Isn't that crazy? No, it's not that they made it up, right,
And the idea behind it, of course, as you can
probably imagine, is that your empathy can interfere with things
that are in their estimation reasonable and just right, as
though caring for someone who is in less favorable circumstances
(25:39):
than you is somehow a like a what's the word
I'm looking for, Like it's somehow a shortcoming or something
like that, and you lose by caring about other people.
And if that's not the intersection of again that weird
(26:00):
misinterpretation of the Bible, the intersection of that and the
worst iteration of capitalism, I don't know what is. It's
just ugly to.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Your people speaking of capitalism. I think the best way
to dissuade a Trump supporter is to tell them how
things are going to hurt their.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Pockets and that you're right in terms of effective strategy.
And I think what I'm trying to say is it's
sad that it has to be that personal, that people
just lack the capacity to even consider, much less care
about what this must be like for someone else, and
indeed take what they say at face value, because you know,
(26:39):
it's like people like RFK. They will try to tell
black people what they need, as opposed to listen to
black people say who live the black lives say themselves,
here's what we need. Right, there's this assumption or presumption
that I know more, I'm more intelligent and I think
it's the subtle influence of living in just kind of
this society for a long time. This is a white
(27:01):
supremacist society. I'm not the person to make that argument.
It's been made long before I was born, right, But
it's the subtle influence of living in that society where
all the judges and all the elected officials and all
the CEOs and all of them are white men that
the I think the default assumption is that white men
know best. And when it comes to Black women mortality,
(27:23):
infant mortality, sorry, maternal mortality rates, that presumption of RFK
Junior puts this phenomenon on full display.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
But that's where that you know, that mentality of I
don't see color is actually really toxic.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Super toxic. Yeah, so well said, Well, thank you for
coming to the studio to talk to us today. I
think that again, the content that you create is wonderful.
I know that you're kind of just passing through, but
I do appreciate you taking a moment to holler at
(27:57):
us once again. Today's guest is Kim Hunt, better known
on social media as at slay the gop on all
platforms and let everyone know which platforms you're on.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So you can find me on TikTok, Instagram, X and.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Facebook, all right, and don't forget. She is a political
science major who has study journalism and amass the social
media following of over six hundred and fifty thousand active supporters.
Hopefully we'll be more after this, and her experience in
the foster care system has given her a unique perspective
on various societal pitfalls and how to best remedy them.
I think that you would do well to give her
(28:35):
a follow and give her some support to keep her encouraged.
We know how far that goes around here. And of
course you can follow us on all platforms at Civic Cipher,
that CIBIC, cip H e R, you can find me
on all platforms at ramses Jaq, you can find at
Civic Cipher. And until next time, y'all peace,
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