Club 520 - KevOnStage on podcasting, standup comedy, hooping + NBA Finals picks

We’re back with Season 4, Episode 49 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by KevOnStage at WrestleMania, where he talks about being a comedian and starting his own podcast. The guys also discuss their love for basketball and give their picks for who will win this year’s NBA Finals. KevOnStage talks about what it’s like working with his wife, as well as how he deals with other family members wanting to work for him, and much more!

Timeline:
0:00 - Welcome to the show, Kevon!
5:00 - Church roles
11:30 - How Kevon started podcasting
14:00 - Hating his old job
21:30 - Pumpkin pie vs. Sweet potato pie
26:00 - Kevon's cooking ability
29:00 - Stand-up comedy
34:00 - Playing basketball
40:00 - Competitive mindset in life
43:30 - Malc on Jeff's AAU squad
49:00 - Out of office
53:00 - Working with wife
01:00:00 - Women like dad bods
01:04:00 - NBA championship picks

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Speaker 1 (02:36):
Like I said, I'm host Mimys DJ Wells got a
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the last to my far left. We got my dog
Bishop be hearing out the parlies. How you are nasty,
cool and nasty man enjoying my morning.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
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Speaker 1 (02:49):
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your young tig How you what.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Just in Vegas? Man? Yeah, no, I'm here. I'll ready
for WrestleMania. Man. Yeah, but we got a special guess
and I'm hyped to have him here.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Hilarious human being about to have a moment already, know,
So it's about.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
To be good for the internet.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Man, have been asking for this absolutely one thousand the street.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Also, before we start, Bro, I want to say thank
you for that shout out.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
On Mello Podya.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
That was big for us.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Y'all don't know when I saw that. I said, Nigga,
like the game is changing before our eyes, and I'm
telling you like y'all are proving like in the same
way stand up comedy wasn't around forever right in the seventies,
people are like, oh, you can actually do this in
as a job, right, you can get a TV show
from this.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Everybody's not a stand up comedian. Everybody's not a skipmaker
on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Some people are perfect for podcasting and y'all are perfect.
It's like lex p and Dre for poor minds, like
they don't have to go and try and get on
stage to do something like what you're doing is enough.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
And y'all got sports, culture.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Comedy, you like every athlete. Podcast ain't all quit an
equal I don't. I ain't here to throw those shots.
But y'all got the perfect balance of funny stories, culture, jokes,
good hosts like getting shoe deals. I don't even know
that was the thing. Oh yeah, it's just amazing. I

(04:28):
love the fact that the media landscape is changing. Black
people are are at the forefront and we can support
our people and be entertained. Like I love that for us,
and what y'all do open the door for people like me. Like,
even though I've been in podcasting longer, nigga ain't doing.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
What y'all doing. Now, I got to go to my
people be like niggas getting I don't know we could
do that. Where is my money? So no, but y'all.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
But y'all also deliver it though it ain't just like
y'all were giving something you didn't earn, Like the podcast
delivers weekly and y'all put in a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Bro, Like y'all out here doing the work.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
You're putting a lot of podcasts, Like y'all, it's a
job for y'all doing a job, and y'all doing a
great job. So I'm happy to be here be blowing
my mind that people know who I am. I was
like when John hit me up, I thought it was
just like oh, I thought he was doing off the
strength of we niggas.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Slap every day and it's hell and relatable to every
part of the world.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
You understand that, like the stories you share just about
your own world and then bringing it back into everybody else. Man,
that shit is dope. So I love that.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
It's proof that you can just be who you are.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
You don't have to try to be something you to
get people to like you.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Like, the more you are who you are, the more
people can relate to that.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
You know, I'm a square, church going nigga who loves it.
Nigga's okay with that. You want you to try to
be like you try to be a street nigga. You
really not about that line, don't know? Yeah, Like, if
you're a street nigga, street niggas know the street niggas
and they know if you're a church nigga nigga.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Be a church figgas and too. Yeah, niggas grew up
in church.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
No church, they granny church.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
You know what I'm saying. But like like im cool man,
it's all around sweaking the church. What was your role?
Did you have a role in the church?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh man, I had so many roles in the first
role was the drummer, Like okay, right there, you drummer.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Drummer, Oh you had holes there?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, got got the most home. Oh god, I brought
a new one.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
The most home. They see you playing like nigga, probably
beat me up like that. That's how that's how you
That's how you got a girl in church.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
The drummer you had going off if you ain't, if
you ain't, you know, everybody could get some, all the musicians,
but the drummer was the nigga, like number one, one
thousand percent.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah. I always told the drummer the choir director is
definitely well.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
He played different conferences.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Feel just a little bit different, right, And I hate
that stereotype, but that some of my churches, it was
absolutely true.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'm so sorry for a reason.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Honestly, if I'm gonna be your church in the choir
director ain't like that, I'm a question.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, because y'all ain't even playing at the top of
your skill, y'all, not scouting, you mean people in the
right positions, Like you need the choir director, right, you
heard me.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
You don't mean the director of the un We going to
be terrible.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
For sure. The choir director was the first TikTok dann.
So I tell people that all.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
But like the drummer was like, that was the star player.
And I was never even a great drummer, but I like,
I got on the drums. But that was my first goal.
My first desire for the limelight was like, I gotta
get on drums.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
That was the first manly thing to me in the
church for sure. So my family always told me it
was a drummer base key.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
And my uncle play the bass. I was like, you know,
the drums was there. The organ is probably the most
the hardest sinier to play. Players are very very Yeah,
you playing with both hands, and you running the base
with your left foot like and you controlling the power
with your right like that's really but yeah, that was
my first thing in life was play the drums, saying

(08:21):
the choir because we all had to. Eventually was an
ordained minister and NI the pastor for four three four years,
I was both learning to do stand up comedy and
a youth pastor.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
At the same time.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
So people come to my shows on Thursday like this
nigga is breaching on and they would come to my
church like people from the club would come to my
church on Sunday. And then I see church people in
the club like, don't tell my pastor I'm in here.
Like I'm in here. What I'm gonna say? And you
know what, one thing that I always respected and appreciate
about you is that you hear so many different graphics

(08:55):
of people, but it's you being yourself right because so
many people as multi fasted, everybody trying to act you.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, parton.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
You do a lot of different things for you to
do concept not even kind of the way. You just
live to affect so many people in different ways, like
different age records.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
I always thought that was far. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I just really talk out loud about whatever I'm into. Yeah,
like if I'm into Like when my son got into soccer,
I was like, let me learn everything I can about soccer.
Then I got into the black people who went into soccer.
You know, I used to play basketball, so you know
I love sports. I love all sports. I'm always talking
about you know, sports. Uh got into the w NBA
because I felt like, man, I'm missing out, you know

(09:30):
what I'm saying. Like, then I got into that, Then
I get into WNBA. I get into anime because of Tyler. Uh,
my boy, Tyler, my boy. I want him to beat
my boy. But he was talking about Yeah, Tyler, you know,
I didn't want to overdo our friendship, you know what
I'm saying. Jones, Yeah, by Joe, that's cool, but he
was like yo, he was just on Twitter like Yo,
this show Blue Eye Samurai is legit and I'm not

(09:51):
even an anime type dude, So I'm like, oh, he wouldn't,
you know, Like, let me check this out.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
So I watched that.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
I enjoy that, and then black People was like, oh
if you like that, watch this and next thing, you know,
I'm an anime nigga now like and it's legit, you know.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
But I don't ever talk about something I'm not really on.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Like I only talk about stuff I'm excited about, and
I never try to overdo my stuff. But I never
try to like be into something just so I could
be in that community or whatever, like it ain't it.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Ain't like that. I usually just talk about what I'm
interested in.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Uh, but I'm interested in a lot of things, which,
like you said, a lot of people are you know
what I'm saying. A lot of street niggas watch anime
like I pulled aside by some rappers like Nigga ain't
even know you was on that Nigga ju And I'm.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Like, Nigga guilt three niggas.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Like yeah, Nigga, but I well, I won't say that
because on the east side of that sorry city is bad.
Shout out. But Mike, I said, I'm I'm puking my cards.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Apparently niggas get hold too as well, and real niggas
into wrestling like you know that niggas really like well, yeah,
so I'm I just do whatever I'm I'm into.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I'm into it loud.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
You know what funny about that last year we met
you at Wrestleman. We was just like, I don't know
if you know who he is, but we met you
back stage Joint Wrestling last year, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahyeah.
It was like, hey, we don't know if you know.
Its all an, it's good next year for you to
be on the show. It's crazy, like we didn't even
know if he was aware of us. I for sure

(11:21):
I don't think I placed it, Like I remember the
moment right now, and I'm like, I know I know
a lot of people, but I can't always tell where
I know them from, you know what I'm saying. But
I for sure been a fan of the podcast, Like
I try to keep up on everything black entertainment, you know,
and y'all's podcast is one of the stories of like
people think you can't make it still, like like they

(11:42):
think podcasting is over saturated. I'm like y'all's podcast is
another example of if you have the right things you
can you can cut through. You can break through, you
know what I'm saying, And you have the right chemistry
and the Deontay Kyle's another example, Like he was riding,
like driving trucks for a living last summer, Like last
summer that Nicholas dropping off loads, hooking it up and

(12:04):
on the road. Now he's a full time podcaster, you
know what I'm saying. So you have the talent and
skilled ability, you're gonna cut through. So like this is
just like a dream come true. When John hit me,
I was like, I gotta go now. I gotta home
to be on top with my kids because my wife
is like, all right, like.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
What we say though, you know, how did you get.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Into the business, Uh to with podcasting.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
So I got into podcasting low key because my wife
not even being funny. The first podcast I ever did
was called the Love Our Podcast. My wife was always
into relationships. Way back into Cooma, we had uh we
did like a live thing called the Love Hour Live
and it was like a we would just like talk
about relationships at this a barbecue restaurant called Uncle Thurm's.
People paid like five Actually I don't think we charged at

(12:49):
that time. It was like, yo, pull up on Thursday,
We're gona talk about loveing relationships.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
So we did that live for a few times. And
then my wife actually the one who put me onto podcasting.
She was on the Read way Back Read the Reading
Brilliant Idiots were the first two podcasts that she told
me about.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I got hurt of the idea, but I didn't like
tap into any of the yeah og og loud Speaker network.
Then when I worked at All Death, I got put
on the Combat Jack That was like those were the
big three podcast Rest of Peace uh combat Jack.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Uh So we was at that time.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
We would record our podcasts no video on our iPhone
voice note, like in our bedroom, just like holding it,
talking about loving relationships. And then we did that podcast
for like six seven years, maybe longer. We ended up
writing the book Marriage Be Hard New York Times bestseller.
Shout out to me and her. You know what I'm saying.
I got to say it, yeah, because it's hard. Everybody

(13:43):
don't do it. So everybody, I got to my two
you feel but yeah, part of my left that's my bad.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Okay, I feel.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Too the double t let me you let me slide that.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Part.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
But but then I got into comedy podcasting. Uh, I
could do a podcast called Here's the Thing with my
homegirl Angel brilliant, brilliant, brilliant comedic mind. I really let
her do her thing like on that show. I'm her
rebound outline pass like she is the first option on
that podcast, Like I thought it was my podcast. And
I just realized over the last few months, I'm really

(14:28):
wade you brown here, and that's cool. I don't don't
have to carry the load on a lot of things.
I don't have to carry it on everything. So for
that podcast. She is the comedic relief. You know, we
have good chemistry. Joshi on there too, and me and
Tony do a podcast called The Bob Brothers. We're probably
even me and him on there talking about movies podcast,
I mean, movies, sports, a lot of ranking stuff. We

(14:50):
just be excused to hang out and then I do
h not my best moment on iHeart with Steph Curry's
company Unanitis Media. Uh, that's where I talked to artists, athletes,
entertainers about mistakes they made. You know what I'm saying.
That's like my professional podcast. So yeah, those are the
four that I do.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Let's sit on your turn you know what it does.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
But man, I used to hate my job, and anything
that prevents me from having to go back to that
cubicle at Boeing is like, I will do it because
I remember looking at that clock and be like, I
know an hour past, I know it, and it's eight
oh three and I looked at eight and I'm like,
oh my God, like how am I gonna make it till?
And I got off work at two o'clock. I started

(15:33):
my shift. I was in my desk at four forty five,
in my desk. Who bruh, I'm in there and I
don't seen the end of YouTube.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
I'm watching paid in full at work just like bro.
I can't. I can't. I can't even be bored.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Enough like they was let me do anything, and there
was still boring, you know what I'm saying. So it
do be tiring. I just did it just my podcast
John hear Me. I was like, I bet like, if
I can make this work dream come true immediately, I'm
gonna go to immediately WrestleMania after this be a father
for four hours. But it is tiring, but it's it's

(16:11):
infinitely better than being in that cubicle. Anything that prevents
me to have to go back to that job and
have to ask somebody for time off when I know
I'm already going like.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
What year is?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
You know?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
You way or an you're gonna write me up, I'm
taking bto or I'm not getting paid.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Absolutely, and if you wi somebody in my family, my rent, let.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Me just you know what I'm like, it's my fourth
fake faith Google who died a week ago?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
You were doing research?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, I did the research week because you know everybody
fune is always what week.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Following, So always.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I had a girl who made what's the name a
bit you words. She was just put this lady face
on her. This is the day she died to so
the national article. Yeah, it was so bad. It was
so bad. If the motherfucker I worked for it. They
used to send flowers to my mama house. Mamma was
read the flyer. I'm like, girl, just shouldn't have just
taken with the missions so weird. You're gonna get some

(17:12):
water a couple of weeks. Man, I got a slide
for the top.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, I just got fired so many times I worked
at the bank. Man.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
I remember I had a I would I got a
chance to do a show in Miami, and I'm like,
I got no PTO.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
I'm like, I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I call my manager from the airport in the airport
like I'm sick, like bacant. She's like, here's now boarding
were like, She's like CAREV. I was like, man, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I gotta show. I'm sorry, man, I had to do it.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
What year did you start working?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Though, so officially my last year working was twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
I believe soody.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
I worked at All Deaf and that first tour when
I first did my first independent tour. I worked Monday
through Thursday at my job, flew Thursday night to whatever
city we had a show in. On Friday, worked remote
all day, slack email doing notes. Saturday morning, flew or
drove to the next city, did a show that night.

(18:22):
Sunday morning, flu drove to the next city, did a
show Sunday night. Then Monday morning I would fly back
to LA and go straight from Lax to work. So
I worked basically for ten months straight, every single day.
So cause I was like, if this tour don't work,
I gotta you know, I gotta pay these comedians. I
gotta I don't have no health insurance all that stuff.

(18:43):
So after that first year, my wife was like, bro,
you can't, you can't. You can't do that to yourself again,
because I was willing to do it again. And it
was like eighty We did like eighty shows, like we was,
we was, Yeah, we was, we was on oh man,
we was Chattanooga, Buffalo, like cities. I didn't even do
well in Albuquerque, it's like fifteen people. It's like, we

(19:05):
didn't even do this. Man, y'all all could have met
up at the next city. Specifically, need to come to Albuquerque,
but it was enough people coming that it made sense.
But after that, so twenty nineteen is when I went
full time touring, and at the same time, I was
doing a podcast at that time as well. So yeah,
I was twenty nineteen, I went full time, and then

(19:25):
twenty twenty I was about to go on the road again,
and then it was.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
A pandemic right on the top of that. So I
was real tripping.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Man, that's an inspiring for you said it because a
lot of people think that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Once they quote unquote make it there, Okay, I'm done
with all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
It's like, oh, just because things going, you have to
keep doing what you did to get to them.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
I tell people you really shouldn't quit your job until
it's impossible to maintain both. And really, you give your
business a better chance to succeed if you don't rely
on it for all your income immediately.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Like a lot of time, we just.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Really want to do that, but like most young businesses,
they don't have enough income to be solely your job
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New Jersey, Tennessee, and Virginia. So I was doing podcasting,
I was doing live shows, I was doing touring, you know,

(21:29):
selling merch doing all that stuff, and it was like
combination of all that.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
I was like, okay, I could, Like I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I've made enough that if I don't work my regular job,
I actually work at my regular job, previns me from
being as successful as I could, because at this point,
shows is more money than I could make at all death.
You know what I'm saying, Like these I could make
that in like three weekends, and then I could be
out for you know, forty week I was doing like
forty weekends of shows at that time, so and then

(21:56):
it was just like it was too hard on my
body to like then go sit up at a job.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
You know, could have stretched during COVID though, kid, Yeah,
we could have. So you were supposed to get the
fake test seven days off care. That's a free seven man.
You an't even us the PTO or nothing. Fourteen So
fourteen days, oh yeah, I had fourteen. I did it
six times, so we really dimmed becausins because my last
year worker was twenty twenty. But I stretched it out

(22:23):
and then when COVID was done, when motherfuckers was here,
I just used the rest of my PTO and ship.
So twenty twenty was a blessing year for me. I
worked for this couple named Epsen. They we used to
build projectors and company. Yeah we should build projectors and
just you know, no projectors together.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Wow, that's like all that was in you when you
was building Prince.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yep I had a I did that. I worked at
the post office and I had a catering company all
at the same time.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
So you're definitely trapping.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, I did. I did all that in twenty twenty.
But that once, once that COVID came, I mean, God
blessed everybody who lost their life. That was a blessing
to me because I survived, and that the paychecks. Kiff,
you laugh. You knew he was gonna say that, you
still like you.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
I heard that coming out.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
He was like, yeah, because it's how I feel like
this alone with scariest that might have been the mounted
person he was thinking. It's said, God bless everybody we got.
I guess so he would have said what he really.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Wanted to know for sure, for sure, But yeah, I
wish I had all the hold on.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
You got fourteen Now be here, chef up for real,
my boy, get wicked in the kitchen. Now while you're here, Kiv,
you have some radical food tastes. Be here, our resident
food expert. It's only right we had this conversation.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I got jumped right recently because I told these people
that pumpkin pop was better than superseded pop.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
There's one gentleman I know who appreciates his take. It's you.
Please let these people know what they missing out on.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
That. So here's the thing I don't I don't actually
word it that way okay, but I prefer pumpkin pie
over sweet potato pie. And my thing is, I tell
Black people all the time, because I'm with you, pumpkin
pie sweet potato poie ain't really that different. We just
put way more sugar in sweet potato pie than it
is pumpkin pie. Pumpkin pie is just a little, bland,

(24:15):
little dessert, you know what I'm saying. It's like banana bread.
It don't bother nobody. It ain't over there trying to
be something that's not. It's like, hey, bro, I'm cool.
You want to sweep taip pie, you can go get that.
Black people be like, nigga, you ain't. You don't like Obama, ain't.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Left there. But yeah, I prefer pumpkin pie because I
grew up on that.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
My mom was not a baker, so she would always
buy pumpkin pies and just sit them on the on
the table during the fall season, so basically anytime through
September through through you know, Christmas, we always have punkin pie.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
So I would eat sweetpotato pie, but it ain't like
something I crave.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
So now around the fall time, I'm like, oh, niggas
pumpkin pie season and pumpkin spice lattes. I'd be in
Starbucks buy pumpkin spice shy. I'm a white girls crazy,
I'm fucking out like bro, I'd be getting pumping. And
the thing is Black people like all the other pumpky

(25:09):
stuff with that pumpkin pie. They'd be last words that
the week. It's the weakest thish kids.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
It is.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Like I'm not here to defend.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
You need some ice cream or something. Trying to pat
some ice cream or something. No whipped cream, just great
punk pie, No, no whip cream.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
But like it's like pound cake.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
People only get mad at the pumpkin pie chake. Like
if I said I like poundcake, nobody would care. But
it ain't really that different.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
But you can't if you eat. If you eat poundcake
butt naked, that's crazy. You gotta put strawberries, then you
put the damn I do use that for respect. That
straw cake. You need that with cream and that strawberries.

(25:59):
That said crazy.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I don't have to have a decade in dessert. It
ain't got to get crazy for me. You ain't got
to dress whatever, make it real for me, slade, I
don't need all that extra man like I'm I'm cool
with semi sweet dessert.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
The shortcake is damn near.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
I don't do that.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
It's good. I was about to say, no, it's damn near,
like it's bread. Basically, you gotta let me do it's sweet,
but it's it's sweet. But it's just pointless, bro, It's
just pointless. It's pointless, pointless because it's just I don't know,

(26:40):
it's it's not really a dessert, bro. It's just too
sweet to make a sandwich. But it's just I don't know,
it's just a useless sweet of dessert.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm sorry, yead, we're gonna blank that out before you got.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
All right with short cake?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (26:59):
So you sure, but never had it? Not apple crumbal nothing, nothing.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
It's cool.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Apple pie, big white American deserve.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's like big maga, that's the big Eagles, guns, NASCAR,
apple racism.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
No, that's true.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
That go with the stuff like we don't be.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
On apple pie, Like I don't have to be like
where's the apple pie? Like that's not a thing in
the blackmun We eat it, but it ain't like you
got to have how much to make them nigga pile.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Since you can read y'all, told me apple Pile was fired.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Though I love it.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I love respect. I love apple Pie though McDonald's Apple's
totally different.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Smoke every moment better than like yeah, especially the back
in the nineties when it was the crispy like the.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Fried one like in the red pan. Yeah, when the
box was raised, that.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Was they that was the prime. I like the baked ones,
but the hot fried one was like that was the
best version of that.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
President, Are you cooking? Nope, you don't get it.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I don't do nothing. I really like.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
I don't even grill for real. I'm okay. I do burgers.
Dogs made me chicken. But like, if I don't be
amazing that stuff, I don't do it at all. I'd
be like, man, I just this is dumb. If I
can't make a soup fle and smoke ribs, then I don't.
I'd rather just order it. Like I'm just not. I
respect it though, like my homie CP, that nigga really

(28:43):
be out here smoking ribs, spice bro niggas got like
the the smoker the.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Time, like like him a girl for Christmas's.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, they bought me, uh agree, eg. I'm still that's
like the kind of like a small it's fire. Yeah,
it's fire. But I stick to my old ship too.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Bro yeh smoke tragger, Yeah yeah, are you would?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, that's what call. That's why I called my yah,
that's the wood.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
You show.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yesterday, my wife, my sons, everybody in my family got apps.
So my son was sitting down flexing. My my wife
touches something. She was like, you a rock hard. He
was like, yo, yeah, that's great.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
She was like, you cannot positive mom say your ass
for sure, Like you just can't say that. She was like,
you can't. But it was like, that was why you I.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Used the little wood. Uh yeah, I used the little
chips with and I mixed it in with.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
The okay cool, yeah yeah yeah. I just you know,
I never really been into that. You know what I'm saying.
I eat, but I don't really I don't really cook like.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
That first seen my daughter, I'm saying, yeah, I'm second team.
I don't.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
I don't even want to look at how much damage
I do on that, Like crazy, I'm scared if I
ever did like a you're in balance, bro, then on
my taxes, I'm gonna keep it.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
The door dash wrapped at the end of the year,
like your Spotify wrapped.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Oh no, no, your door dashing every day?

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Bro a, yeah, I door dash you have to. It's insane.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
It's it's a problem because I'm really like efficient, Like
I know, okay, I'm about to do this media at twelve.
I want to eat at eleven. Let me hit you know,
I want this at my door. You know what I'm saying,
Like yeah, and I don't really want to clean. I
don't want to do no dishes, Like why am I
gonna cook these two eggs? And I gotta clean the
frying pan? Just like have these at my house?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Fruit? You know, the vegetables, fruit and vegetables. Oh yeah,
see I never know when y'all. What's the problem with fruits? Okay,
but yeah, it's it's laziness too, Like, oh my laceness
is crazy. I'll drop. That's the place I do that
thousand percent at the red light. Oh yeah, that sounds fire.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I do that.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
I do that with five guys that looked good by
that fire. That's at least one hundred The rip boy,
you know, ain't tripping.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Run it up.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
You gotta do it. It was in your wheelhouse. This
made a follow for me. This ain't no flex. This
is just the truth. I had a chef for a
little bit and I was like, nah, do dash is good? Cool?
Why actually after your.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Phone you speak on how you let him go At
durnk COVID, it was he took off fourteen days.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, I can't really eat. I can't make it make sick.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
We don't really eat.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Sometimes you would make stuff and my my son, you
made this thing and then my kids eating something else.
I'm like, now we can't have that, Like it's too expensive.
Everybody ain't eating it for every meal. It's gotta go now,
that's crazy. If we have a shift we need. Yeah,
but my youngest son super picky, like he is like this,

(32:15):
Nigga will eat yogurt every day, three times a day.
Like he don't like nothing, like he's on that like
so it's like he don't want to eat nothing special,
nothing different, only what my wife makes all that stuff.
So I'm like this, this don't make sense. And she
was asking us what you are for dinner. I was like, nigga, weeks, what.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Want?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, I'm paying you like the thing for you. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
And it was just like I did a little too
much with my life like I was like this nigga
out here, and I was like, I'm not here like that,
Like I ain't no athlete where I need nutrition.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Like I'm over here, you're making fresh stoves. I'm making
terrible choices, like you hurting me.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, So I wanted to ask you, man, what is
like the hardest part about torn Man?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
The hardest part really is that it takes so much
work and time to do something for forty five minutes,
and especially living in LA. Like if I live in
Atlanta would be infinitely easier because you can get from
Atlanta to almost anywhere in that same day flight. But
from LA it's already more expensive because either you I
gotta show in Atlanta on Friday night, I can't leave

(33:34):
Friday morning and get there safely and enough time to perform.
So I us just got to go red eye Thursday night.
And then to make sure I get into the room,
I have to buy the room for the night before,
you know, so you know, cause they'll give your room
away or you're stuck in the lobby waiting, which if
you ain't got nothing to do, that's okay, But if
you got to show that night, you're sitting in the
lobby till three o'clock, four o'clock, depending on what checking

(33:56):
time is. That's just messing up my whole vibe. So
the travel is easily the hardest part. Being away from
your family is hard as well, but the travel is easily.
And then also it's hard to sell tickets, Like to
consistently sell tickets, you gotta everything else is part of it,
like videos, podcasts, you gotta say people's feeds.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
So I'm always kind of feeding.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
That's why I never stopped making these videos because I
always want to remind you, like, oh keV, that was funny,
Oh keV. So that when I'm I'm not always like
trying to promote my ticket sales every single time you
see me. But when I do promote, you're like, oh,
I'll go check them out.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
But you you really got to be funny every day
to be able to tour, you know, thirty times, you know,
or perform thirty forty times a week I'm sorry, a year.
So yeah, that's easily the hardest part is selling tickets, promoting,
and the travel.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
That's how you work on your game, though, like online
every day.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
It's easy to get like I've done so many jokes
online one to see if it works too, to stamp it.
You can't steal it because like Dan Kev's the first
person to sell that. Times when I'm going to build
a new hour, I'll just go through my feed and
be like, what have I not talked about? Can this
be a joke that works on stage? Because everything online
don't work for the stage, but some stuff actually can

(35:10):
you know what I'm saying? So, but yes, it's it's
essentially like getting shot up. I gotta be out there
trying to be funny, trying to be fresh because stand
up comedy, if you don't do it consistently, you will
you'll lose it, like you won't be funn That's why
Eddie Murphy was like, I've been away from it too long.
I don't know if I'm funny like that anymore, but
I think people will still laugh. So I really can't
risk that. But yeah, that that online works, and and

(35:35):
staying fresh with me and Tony do the Bob Brothers too,
that even though that's not traditional stand up, it's I
know it allows me to stay fresh, you know at
the skill.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
What I want to ask is obviously your talented writer
and credit as well.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
One thing I wanted to say is was it harder
for you to perform some of the stuff that when
I say perform, is it hard to translate the stuff
to the jokes that you're making into writing for other
people to act on other people to perform instead of
how you would do it. You know, what I like
to do is really so far, I've been able to
really play to people's skill set. So when we did

(36:09):
the Airport or safe Space recently we did the Airport.
The people that I hire, I'm a fan of them.
So when we're writing stuff, I'm writing stuff where I
know you can get off, Like when we hire CP
for example, he's a premier roaster, so we put him
in spots where he can do what he does well.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
He's also a brilliant actor. He can do anything.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
But I know he's gonna shine at this Mecca who's
a TikToker. She's a brilliant yapper. So the things we
have for in the airport is like, let's play to
your yapping ability. And then the people like Angel who
can do anything, or Spice Adams is really physical, like
he's a physical comedian, So we wrote a sketch for
him like, Okay, we don't even have to tell him
to do that. He just naturally will be like, I'm

(36:49):
gonna go farther than you ever expected me to go.
So to hear has a very mischievous deviousness to him,
like he always looked like he either find the committed
crime or plotting on you, like she looked like hes
just looking for an angle, like I ain't gonna rob
you straight up, but your pocket will be a little light.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
So and he also will take it too far. So
you just put them in positions to win.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
And probably my best ability is I I was a
mediocre basketball player, but I really wanted to win. So
that means I need to do what I do well
and let the other niggas do what they do well.
So I think being not good at sports but really
wanted to win prepare me for this part or lot,
because I remember I always tell this joke that I

(37:35):
play four years with JV, but it was really only three.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
But and I know three is bad enough. That's crazy, right,
But my coach came to me.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
So in eleventh grade Lakes High School, my coach came
to me, Reggie Williams was on our team. Regi Williams
was the ninth pick in the NFL Draft of the year.
He came out, he went to you dub. We went
into high school and college together. My coach came to mean,
he's like he not coming out the game. Y'all play
the same position. He's six five, two thirty five, runs

(38:03):
a four six four five forty All American Football Track basketball.
I'm five ten. I can't dunk, I can't dribble that well.
I'm just a utility player. I'm rebound. I'm still charge.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Like I know what I do.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
I'm a I'm a glue guy. I'm a sick coaston
locker room nigga.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Like I.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I'ment trash, but I'm like, you know, I'm this nigga Duncan.
So if it's nigga Duncan, you're not dunking. He choice like,
So for me, I'm like, okay, bet, but if we win,
we win. So if I'm rebound, if you if you
can and I can't shoot threes, like it probably like
I'm here, you finished with the last undersized power forward,

(38:53):
Like you know what I'm saying? Yeah, Like I want Yeah,
I playing myself down for comedic billy.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
But I was.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
I was solid at basketball, right, but I wasn't amazing,
Like I knew I wasn't going to the league anyway. Actually,
I didn't know that I found that out. I believe
it in myself.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
What did you find out? No, I'm gonna tell you.
I'm gonna tell you exactly because I remember the moment
it became very clear to me. One when my.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Coach told me that, I was like, okay, so shoot,
shoot if he's asking me, he was like, do you
want to sit on the bench or do you want
to play JV? So I was like, I'll play, like
I'd rather play basketball than not play basketball. But after
my senior year, my coach got me a tryout, me
and my homeboy a tri out at like some Division
III college. So I'm you know, I'm you dubbed like
at that time, Nate Robinson, there, Will Conroy's there like, yeah, Hoopers,

(39:41):
you know they going to that college. So I'm like, okay,
I know these I'm not on that level. So let
me I know I'm gonna cook these white boys at
Pine Tree Valley College. When I tell you, I went
out to the woods in the middle of nowhere Washington,
never heard of this college, never seen these white people.
I'm like, okay, I'm gonna start up guarding the guards.
White boy probably five five, strong as hell, crossing me over.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
I can't do nothing with them, white boy, Bob, but
just one three, I've crossing me. I'm like, Nigga, why
is he crossing me? He is white, strong as hell,
ripping me, crossing me over. And I'm like a nigga
that hit five threes in a row, like, I'm not
gonna make this team right. And at this point, the
bigs on the on the floor have not done nothing right.

(40:25):
So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna sitch off to the big.
I get my boy, like, yo, switch off. I gotta
do something different, Nigga. I start guarding the white boy.
All of a sudden, this nigga's dunking. He ain't dunked
all games. This niggas they throwing him libs. I'm getting
dunked on and I'm sitting here like, Nigga, I can't
guard anybody on this. And we at Pine Tree Valley
Community College and I can't stop anybody right.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
So the coach, You're like, yeah, Frenchman, just take a break. Promise.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Shoot, I took my shoes off. I say, yeah, that's
a that's a that's you ain't got You had plans
to hoop.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
At the high school?

Speaker 3 (40:56):
What he going to the leading sh mean?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
You took that a little too far.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Bro, You gotta understand in my mind, I'm destroying everything
and everything I do.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
You must at a hell of a year.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Not really.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I once had twenty six and ten. You know what
I'm saying with my girl. You know in the away
game right step back blocking shots out of Bawn, but
average four overall overall.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
That Seasond just a good team player.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Man, Like this is like a lot of things I did.
It's not like you know Draymond what I mean by that.
It's like he don't feel everything that you like. He's
a he's a difference maker on the court. It makes
the team better. That's kind of how I was, right.
But uh, then I went to University of Washington. I
see like Nate Robinson, Will Conroy like these, Brandon Roy,
John Brock, bro Brock like these. This is what God

(41:59):
wants for you, is what he wants for me. But
when I have my streaming service, kept on state studios.
When I tell you dead serious, I'm not a joking
bone in my body. I'm like, we were gonna make
this so big. Netflix is gonna call me and be like, Yo,
what y'all doing, Like y'all eating to our subscriber base,
and I'm like, yeah, we're gonna, yeah, we out here,

(42:19):
Like in my mind, that's how big we're gonna get.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
We're gonna make a dent.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
You're gonna have to buy me out right, Like that's
but to me, if you if you ain't thinking like that,
then you lost already.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
That's the fact, Like you can't.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
You might not get there, but you start off like
we just go and have a thousands, what's the point
of even trying? Like I'm trying to dominate in everything
I do. But once I realize I can't, I'm out Like,
if I'm not gonna be that nigga, then I'm not
doing that. You know what I'm saying said, Yeah I

(42:50):
haven't had those harts. I can't tell the kid, yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
I ain't got.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
People hear that they.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Like my coach and being like I can't be mad
if I said I'm not put me on varsity. My ego, like, no,
I want to be varsity as a junior. I can't
be mad if he don't put me in like that
nigga was dunking. He was strong as hell. This nigga
was like when I was watching him, I was my
game's at three thirty. Bro, they don't even have they

(43:24):
don't even take the ticket that secessions you won't be
Your game is traff chillader because not out here there
not here for the love game, bro, Like it's cool crazy,

(43:48):
I'm cool with that because I knew. I knew where
I was at, Like I'm never I'm very self aware,
Like my son was really good in soccer. Like my
son was at a point where this team in Rome
was like, hey, we want you to come out here
and live here and play under us, like this is
how you going to elevate your game when he was
like coming out of ninth grade and I was like, yo,

(44:09):
if you want to do this, like this is you
really low key late already, because for real, you want
to be like at the top level soccer, they pick
you out at like seven eight nine, you in those academies,
you in Europe and stuff like that. So I was like,
you really late. But the fact that that you're on
the radar, you know, this is your time. If you
want to play at that level, this is it. And
he was like, I ain't trying to go to Rome.

(44:33):
I was like, bet, just know you're not gonna be
at the top level. And he was like, okay, cool,
so we we cool with that, Like, but don't tell
me you want to be at that level. Like even
if you don't go to Rome, like you got to
have a trainer, like if you want to be on
those levels. These kids not playing games. He's like, I'm
trying to enjoy my summer. Well, then that's it. Like
if we're just gonna go to your.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Game, and.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Mikey, these kids they're not playing the game.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
You niggas have coaches and trainers and nutritionists at high school,
like the club games. They're not playing about this like
you playing and that's cool. But he also is like, bro,
I don't have to play soccer for a living, Like
I just enjoy soccer. I'm not trying to live in
Italy for that. And my wife is we gotta move
to Italy too.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I was like, nigga, what for sure, it's like boarding school, Like.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
I'm with your face out for something.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
You want to face soccer, So I respected him when
he didn't want to go. But like, also, don't tell
me you want to play at the top of the level.
You know what I'm saying, And that's school. Like he said,
I don't want to play in college. I just enjoy
playing soccer. This Nigga joined the volleyball team just because
he likes playing sports, you know what I'm saying. And
that's fine. But in my mind, it's either the top
or nothing, and that's not always a good mindset. But

(46:00):
it does help me in certain things. But I don't
I can't do things for hobby really, like if I'm
not I used to play the bass, but it's like
if I'm not the best at.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
That, then I'm just it ain't no point, you know
what I'm saying. That's funny. I guess Yabody very similar, bro,
especially that crazy Yeah, all that training of stuff. We
ain't try to hoop for real.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, just god, did you spend money early on when
he was playing?

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, and I didn't really realize, Like I played AAU
basketball but this was it wasn't that level. But but
but soccer in La at the club level is super expensive.
It's it's a thousand bucks, two three thousand bucks and
dudes a couple hundred bucks for Turnament's cleats, like it's
like a really expensive thing.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
And he was they was getting washed, like smacked around.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
I'm like, Nick, we won't. You won't get smacked around.
Do that at the field by the house. We driving
all the way to say of the Dino niggas losing
zero for sure, and I got to drive back in
the truck. You musty and sleep and I'm like, yeah, nigga,
it's over.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Was he the only like African American?

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yes, yes, kid on the team?

Speaker 1 (47:14):
H they picking the team and he was a beef,
like really good at soccer. But it's like, you know,
it's eleven people on the on the team, like and
the other people they got people.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Too, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, save
your money.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Man, save your money.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Man.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
We're not gonna do this, and you don't have to
do this, Like I got a whope, say say money
then wet for your father's company after college.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah that's how we did him.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Oh yeah, literally you programmed sorry off just him quitting
seventh grade eighth grade soccer.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
He started his a U program for his nephew and
this nigga he's a Hawaiian poh. That program mentioned many
of people to college, to the NBA, A type of
He told the kid, this is I can probably remember
this ship. This is a school northwest where they used
to have like tryouts and ship that he told, fuck you,

(48:14):
this is my uncle t tryouts. We had that program
for another ten years. We didn't see valcom now. One time.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
He really told the kids that my daddy hat.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Clear.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
It is my daddy that was the energy for man
and work with us.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
But that's I mean, that's the dream man. We was
talking to my sons about this last night. My son,
the soccer one, he is a like he is a
cheap dude. Like we was at the airport and he
had ordered the sandwich and three drinks and the dude's
like fifty dollars am I. Someone was like what it
was like sandach twenty three? He was like how much

(49:04):
is drinks?

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Like six fifty? So he was like no, I don't
want none of it.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
I'm not hungry on thirsty and it drinks from mine
and my wife and the money was like it's my
credit card. And he was like, no, this is just
on principles, like that's that's crazy. So when he also
wanted to go to school for ECON and my wife
was like, you should be production accounting, like you should
be in the budget part of production. Because his whole

(49:30):
life he don't play about his bread. Like even when
he was young, before we even had money, I bet
them one hundred dollars they couldn't do a bottle flip
and he won, like he flipped at the first time.
He kept one hundred dollars for like four years, like
dead serious. His friends like we got a little bit
of bread. And my oldest son is like, you know,
he enjoys that part about it. I was there before
he was like hey man, like he people get on

(49:53):
him like you a trust on bab. He was like
you said that, like niggare my parents take care of me?

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Feel bad about it? That's all might be to God.
I'm sorry you can't enjoy this, but.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I can't come from for the mock come on over,
and it's so neat.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
With my youngest son, he don't play that like were
going to six Flags, were all paying our way. One
of the times these. Kid was like, you haven't and
my son was like, what you do with them crocs?
He was like, what I take the crocs? They yeah,
he gonna be That's the thing. I wasn't charging my
money because you treat my money like it's your money.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
And you know what I'm saying. But he can have that.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Y'all go to school learn how you know, learn the
business for real, but also you can you have a
job here.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
But also I told my oldest son this. He wanted
to work for me, and I said, you know me
as the dad and I'm a playful dad. You ain't
known the.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Business person of me, like when I need something I
needed and you ain't seen that side of me. So
if you say you want to do this for real,
I don't play about that. I play about a lot
of stuff, but that business stuff. And he was like
all right, Like so I need five clips from this
episode by Friday at noon and he'll turn them in
midnight Thursday night, Like he knows that I don't play

(51:11):
because like when you go to that business like, they're
not gonna be like oh he's kept on stage, your son,
Like none of that matters when it's time to do
the work, like nepotism will get you in the door,
but a lot of times when you black, it will
not keep you there. You white, Oh yeah, that Scottie son,
like you get chance after chance up to chance when
you black, if you're not working for your dad's company,
Like it's a rap.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
And I'm not gonna raise nobody who's gonna be a
bum on of the stuff I built, Like we all
have to work.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
You working this for real?

Speaker 1 (51:39):
You got to be for real, you know what I'm saying,
Because if I die and lead this to you, I
need to know this in good hands or was just
selling you know what I'm saying, Like because I can't
have my name like Marlowe, my name is my name,
like the streets called me a punk.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
She's like, you ain't worry about that.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
No, you hire anybody else in the fam. You hire
anybody else in the film because everybody everybody needs.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
This is what I tell people. I can't hire you
because I don't want to have to fire you, and
I will immediately like I hired my cousin. I love
you to let you go. I gotta let you. You
just saying, hey, brother, this is my I love her,
but we go on a family trip together to Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Every trip for me is work though, Like even if
I'm in Hawaii, I'm still working and taking meeting and stuff.
She put it out of office on her email, like
you can't reach me. I'm out of the office.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Nigga.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
You me, you directed people to meet nigga you you're here.
You can't be out of office office. Respect my work
like that.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
You took her like pay for her ship to go
like nigga ticket hotel.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
I'm paying you for the week. What you mean you
out of office talking? What's in Hawaii? You had a job,
you would use your PTO now you had hurt. But
she didn't even benefit her job.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I didn't say nothing about that is crazy at that good?
That was your last straw.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
That was my life. You get that, and I don't
want it. I don't want things giving to be weird.
Yeah it was weird. Yeah, sired you now your auntie
like you do with your wife. What now we got like.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Like, nah, you saw the end in a while. I can't.
Why did I get married or whatever?

Speaker 3 (53:45):
It is?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
That teller you shot that up.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Even my brother rest in peace. He was my manager
before he passed away. I had to let him go.
I said, man, I need a manager to go out
and get business from me. He's like, that ain't of
what I do. I said, I gotta do it. I
got it, got it. Let you He understood.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
I said, brother, these people talking about then, they got teams.
They're gonna go out to Brandon Dell's dead night.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
He's like, I can't do it. I got Come on, man,
let me talk to you because it is my life, man,
my life.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Going on at going, Bro, I gotta have people on
my team that are are working as hard as I
am at your thing.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
I don't expect you to do my job, but you
gotta do your job.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
At your ability, bear storry your role. That's all you
gotta do. That's what I'm telling you, Bro. Not being
great at sports has helped me because you you know you,
you talk about basketball, you think about it. There's only
so many possessions and they can only get to so many.
So people stay in the league by you a three
in D guy. Now you might've been getting forty in

(55:01):
high school thirty in college. Right now, I need you
to guard space the floor and hit corner and hit
that corner three.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
I remember them days.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Yeah, because this nigga getting thirty shots a night, damn it, Joe.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
So yeah, like I need that out of my team
because I'm gonna do I'm gonna do my part every time,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
So luckily now I have some people with me. Josh
my first.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Hire camera man, excuse me, videographer, he's great, rich, TV film,
he works hard.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
My brother Greg, tour manager. He's a beast.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
You know.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
My wife is the best thing ever, Like she is
legit as good as me, but in the things that
I'm not good at.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
So that really was what makes me formadable. Excuse me.
Every team work, but yeah, no family, no more. I
love y'all Thanksgiving the Christmas.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Now, what about though, when it gets tough with the wife,
when y'all arguing that y'all separate work from you know,
I know, you know what I mean. You ain't gotta
say too much, kid, don't get a little trick, y'all
what you know what I mean? We got a little
motion this.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
I could never it's yeah, you know, we had this
inside joke where it's like, because there was a time
in the pandemic.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Man.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
It was she was like, we can't work together, like
we were not working well together because I'm what what
it took to become kept on stage is not what
it takes to become KEVI on stage studios. And I
was having trouble separating the two because it was always me, me, me,
me me, And I'm hard headed and stubborn and I
think I'm right about everything, and it takes me a
long time to come around to being wrong. And when

(56:45):
I come back to your idea being right, by that
time I come around to it, it's my idea.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Now, like, oh, I know somebody like that. I know
somebody just like that said right.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
It was the whole time I come around to, like,
so what we need to do is like that's what
we told you. I remember that now I'm saying it.
So that's crazy and I don't even realize it right.
So my wife always calls me out about that. But
the thing is, yeah, like sometimes it's tough. Sometimes we

(57:19):
gotta figure it out. Sometimes we gotta like you know,
I won't say go our separate ways, but sometimes there's
tension as a result of working together. I think over
the last year or two we really found a good
flow state. And most of it has been me listening
to her earlier, you know what I'm saying, Cause she
didn't write about a lot of things, and I probably

(57:40):
would have. She would have saved me a couple hundred
thousand dollars if I would have listened to her early.
So I don't make that mistake as often as I
used to. But also part of it is like we
we have the conversation and we recognize it's okay to disagree,
but she's like, we got to have the conversation, and
at the end of conversation, you decide this is what

(58:01):
you want to do. That's fine, but you got to
hear me out fairly and listen to what I'm saying.
And if you decide not to do that, that's cool.
But you're not Finna just like ball over me, you
know what I'm saying. So I think it is tough
because back in the day, I went to work and
did my job, she went to work, did her job.
We come back home and talk about stuff. You know,

(58:22):
now our jobs are the same, So sometimes it's like blurr.
Every team, what's like our relationship, what's work? It's like
is there any real difference. Ever, so we have to
find other things to connect about and sometimes we don't agree.
Like I'm really an artist, and what I mean by
that is I can sometimes be a bad business person
because I really really want to perform, and she's like, nah,

(58:42):
like they respecting the money. So she'll speak to the
ego of me like they a don't care. They they
think you will take that. Oh and Nonna what like
Oh they think they're gonna play me like now, Like
but she know how to activate, like, oh, if you
want to take that, then you'll take anything. Oh that's
what they trying to do. So she knows how to
like speak to me, to my you know, my skills

(59:03):
and all that type of stuff. So and she's a
really good business person, like probably better than me. So
I think it's just really beneficial. But she also like
part of the reason I'm doing this New Grief Sucks
tour is because she challenged me, like as a wife,
she was like, I was finna go do the churches,
just doing easy hour, you know, people's gonna have a
good time, And she was like you.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Better than that. Yeah, yeah, she was like, you're doing
them old jokes. I was like, oh, hold on, why
should work?

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Yeah, but I remember we was doing the show and
this comedian did the joke I was about to do it.
She was like, that's only happening because you did that
joke when you were sixteen. And she was there like
like you've been doing that joke, Like come on, man,
Like you should be embarrassed that she was even about
to say something somebody else about to say, like yeah, yeah,
Like she really was like speaking to the challenging me,

(59:55):
the creative and me. So it's like there's so many
benefits about being with her that it will it prevents
me from like seeing it as a negative because I
just told this story on Cam's podcasts about we was
we was in a rough spot and I went outside
and begged for her like don't leave, and people in
the comments and nigga, I'll never.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Beg nigga, I will if you have what I have,
like I wouldn't. I don't want to lose that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Like if I had a diamond and somebody's trying to rob,
like I wouldn't just let you take it, like I'd
fight for like, and the thing is in that story,
I was realizing if I let her go I know
what it would done to me, Like if I let
her go to the hotel that night, I would have
been like, oh she don't want me, blah blah black.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I could have gotten my head that way. It wasn't
all her.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
And I was like, if we, if we, if you
don't get that to that point, we can still do this.
So I say all that to say, all the way
back to what we were talking about, you got to
be who you are. I'm a begging nigga. I need
that woman in my.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Life or a variety of reason, it don't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
To me what you would do, Nigga in the comments, Yeah,
because you don't have her, general it don't matter what
you say.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
That is a fact in this situation. Yeah, one thing
I ain't saying about you though, Okay, you know how
to stay at the doghouse, Oh man, because I'm gonna
testing waters. I'm gonna test the water. I ain't gonna LIEU.
Let go to the hotel. Because I think I think
you was like you when you left as soon as
you sorry as the car you ran out there. I

(01:01:27):
let my girl drive down the street. I let it.
I let it get down the street. She got the hotel.
I gotta test the water because you get to the hotel,
damn near I'm gonna let me get to the checkout.
This slided that because you know, let me get up,
because were gonna stay tonight. I'm gonna stay. We're gonna

(01:01:47):
make this a whole I'm gonna stay the whole night
with you. We're gonna make this a whole. Toxic ball
bust through the elevator bus to the door here. But
now it's road playing. I'm ga. So also that is

(01:02:10):
how you speak how your wife. Yeah, I appreciate that, sure.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Cause it's like, man, I know, like I know what
I got, how I feel lucky and blessed, and it's
like it don't it don't bother me, and they don't.
I'm not taking like my my manhood is not questioned,
like none of that stuff matters to me in that way.
Like a lot of times, a lot of time, Loki, men,

(01:02:34):
we have a tendency to do things for the admirasion
of other men, regardless of the people that it really
matters about. And if you're a real man to me,
you do stuff that you know is right and that
you you rock with versus like if I do this
be here, think it'll be cool.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Nigga be here living his own life.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
He be on the grid.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
You know we got.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
But you know you you This funny thing happened on
the n I'm talking a lot, but there was this
whole conversation about how men's body types are built, Like
do women prefer men who are like muscular or like
dad bods? And women were like, actually, we prefer da bods.
And men were like, Nigga, no, y'all don't. We were like, yeah,
we do. Like, no, y'all, don't man men like this.

(01:03:17):
It was like, y'all like muscular niggas, we prefer a
well dressed You don't have to have muscles like he
probably really strict about what he eats and all that
type of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Ain't trying to like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Women were saying that, and men were like, I ain't
trying to do that because a lot of times men
are more concerned with what men. There's a niggas with
dad bods taking work.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Damn you're taking I recognize the thing that look like
me doing work? My godh you ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
When it would hang up, we're realign target would know the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Car like this out of there Nigga said, I just
got off the phone the president a car. Man you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Fikey legend, get your role out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
This was my favorite episodes right here'll man so much, Man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Thank you my favorite man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
For sure, it's a great episode. We gotta do this
again some.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Time, so sure, Man, thank y'all for having me. Man
and y'all, y'all get me out on time. I get
to be a good husband.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
This is a win win win. We appreciate. Yeah, I
appreciate y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Before you got here, tell people that gets happy in man.
You got TV shows, you got podcasts, and tell people
that can support that brother right now U. I got
the Ball Brothers airing on two B. I got new
episodes with Ball Brothers, Me and Tony airing on YouTube
this June on two B. We got safe Space in
this November on two B. We got the Airport, low

(01:05:13):
Key Airport.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
I did my baby boy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
I ain't gonna hold y'all, and I don't usually talk
like this, but these man, I had like fifty five
black comedians, actors, creator, they was all. It was like
Nike ABCD camp, like when bron took over Minnie Cook.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
It was like everybody brought it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
It was so dope because it was all one man,
one sound, everybody getting paid the same, everybody here for
the jokes. Safe Space was just like, oh, we really
did it. And then the airport we shot the next month.
We really did it again. But it's just on a
bigger scale. I can't wait for It's gonna be free
on two b Like that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Best part about it. There's no paywall. Ten episodes, you'll
be able to watch that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
So yeah, if you fall me, come on stage on anything,
I'll always tell you what what I got going on.
Come on tap after the show. We got to talk
about to man be here trying to get a movie
with us. After I got y'all got y'all be the drummer.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Oh yeah, I love that. I love half.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Listen been tap in subscribe man like you told you.
Man cameo stage everywhere going crazy. Man to our family
over at Bootsmo.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
You know the vibes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Hey, you told y'all any new fahon Man tap in
Bootsmo family, take care of family.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
You know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Shout the hard rock bed be here and the last
will be on the way. Many sermertime playoffs here.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Yeah, let's get this money before we get out of here.
NBA champion, you got. I think it's tough to repeat.
We ain't had a repeater what four or five years.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go, I'm gonna jump out. I'm
gonna say the Spurs, hm hmm, I'm I just it's
easy to pick. Okay, see the choice of number one
seed on on on the East. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
But I've been surprised before. I think that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
I think the Spurs have an easier path than I realized. Uh,
And I think they play well against Okay. See, I
think whoever comes out okay off the West probably gonna win.
But there's probably four teams that wouldn't surprise me if
they won, You like, it could be anybody. But if
I had to jump out there, and if I'm right,
they like Nigga keV New Spurs. If I'm wrong, it's
like the Nigga keV don't know wayout the hard right,

(01:07:32):
Ben putting future, Ben saying on the Spurs can pay
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
We'll appreciate y'all, will catch y'all next time. Appreciate y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Man The volume