July 18, 2025 • 45 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson break down the biggest stories shaking up the NFL right now and discuss Randy Moss taking a shot at Tyreek Hill—saying he doesn’t belong in the all-time great WR conversation. Plus, Packers WR Jayden Reed joins the show
0:00 - Randy Moss calls out Tyreek Hill
18:20 - 2025 NFL WR Rankings
28:15 - Jayden Reed joins the show
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jade Reed Green Bay Packers wide receiver. He'll be joining
us a little later in the show, Ohoe, But first,
Randy Moss calls out Tyreek. Mass said in an interview
with the South Florida Sun Stinel with ask where Tyreek
stacks up as the all time great receivers, He's nowhere
all time. Where he's at today game, Tyreek is probably
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top five. I put him top five? O Jo, you
agree with that?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh man?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Listen. I mean when we talk about all time, there's
no reason to bring up the question about somebody being
all time when they're still playing the actual game. Yeah,
and he has a lot of heat, is a lot
more time to go, but he is see his top five.
He was on a historic run. Obviously, he had a
down season last night last year. Obviously we know why
because he.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Got eleven thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Look because of the inconsistent quarterback
play at quarterback last last last season. But you have
to realize, we talk about all time, he has eleven
thousand right now, but he's now where they're done.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You know, we'll finished. Most of the time.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Players bodies start to break down, they start to lose speed,
but none of that has happened to Terry, and even
if he does lose a step or two, it's still
a step or two fast and everybody else.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Look, from time to time we do this. We did
this with Tom and Peyton whether they rank all time?
We did this with Aaron Donald and JJ Watt, Where
do they rank all time? Kind Of Reevers kind of
got that after that year that he had in two
thousand and nine, he had that historically great season and
when he had one of the great cover seasons in
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NFL history, And.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
So occasionally you'll get that.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I don't have a problem with mal said, because you're
talking about one hundred and five year history, and like
you said, he's still going. Now once his career is over,
we're gonna have to have this conversation and see where
he ranks. Because if I'm not mistaken, he has a
super ring. He's a what seven eight time pro bowler,
(02:03):
he's been an All Pro. Uh, he's on the If
I'm not mistaken, I think he's on the All Decade.
He might not be on the All Decade team, he might.
I think he'll be on the All Decade team in
the twenty twenties. I don't know if he's on the
All Decade team or the twenty tens because.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
He got a late start. You know what I'm saying,
O Joe.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yes, But with that being said, I don't have a
problem with what Mas said because Mars is looking like,
hold on, how y'all just gonna have this man.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Leap for all the whole bunch of people.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Now, I know he's had, like you said, O Joe, seven,
he has what two seventeen hundred yard receiving seasons. No
other player has more more than one of those. He
has two, And you're right, he was on the historic run,
looked like he was gonna get two thousand, caught a
hamstring injury, got an ankle injury. I just think the
thing is like, and that's why it's tough. It's tough
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when guys that have gold jackets say something, yes, sir,
because it's gonna it's gonna generate above Ojoe, because man,
you heard random.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Also, Randy is one of those.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Historically all time great receivers, so it carries a lot
more weight than something that didn't play the game, or
someone didn't play. Look, I understand that's their opinion. Everybody
has an opinion. But Randy Moss's opinion. When he's talking
about a receiver, it carries more weight.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It just does well.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Actually, and what he said is really not that bad
when you think about it. Tyreek being top five right
now is a really good thing, even with the down
season last year. Now, let's not let's not be food
and be and be caught up in the moment, you know,
and the fact that he had a down season. But
there's nothing wrong with him. There's nothing wrong with him
at all. But what Mass said is fair. It's fair.
I just don't like the fact that the question was
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even imposed and asked to Randy Moss. In general, when
Tyreek is still played, that makes no sense to me
at all.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
That's just a I call.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It clickbit or creating unnecessary conversations that shouldn't be had
when a player is still active anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
That makes no sense to me.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Had you know, if Tyron, let's just say I had
gotten an offensive Player of the Year in the process.
Let's just say he stayed one more year oho and
he gets two super Bowls and he has an off
Because see the thing is where we put JJ Watt
and Aaron Donald in there. What they got those dp
O wis they got Rookie of the Years and so
they were jj had two. He's the only guy to
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have two twenty SAX seasons. Aaron Donald's was on a
historic run. And so after like year six, year seven, Man,
where you put a d at? I ain't just talking
about defense. I ain't talking about defensive lineman. I'm talking
about defensive players period.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Where do you pay jj at?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Because jj Wat, I think he finished second one year
for MVP when we hadn't had a defensive player win
the MVP since nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
That was LT.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So you know we're looking at it like with Damn,
and I agree, it's just that what mar said, because
when I when I just saw the article, I'm like,
with Damn, that's harsh.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Then I but you know, you know he's saying, listen.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
He's not a historically great currently, but he is top five.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
And of course of course the article, you know, the
headline is wanted to draw you in.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
If they if they just said Moss interview with South
Sun Sentinel, ain't nobody taking that article. But when the
Tyreek ain't all time great? Oh man, you heard what
MA said?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. I mean that that's that's the game.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That's that's that's that's the sevenist of the media in
order to have as what we call clickbait to get
to the tune in and want to read what was
actually said. Wow, And in the sense when I think
about it, it's not a bad thing, it's not a
bad thing. There there are so many receivers that came
before week, you know, that laid their foundation for what.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
He's able to do now.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
And when you think about all time, Grace, they have
been some great Yes, there have been there. There have
been some great ones that have come before me during
your time, before your time.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
So don got like n nine touchdown on five hundred catches?
How you get that of that? How you get that
of that touchdown on five hundred catches?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Oh, Joe, Yeah, that's crazy. And when they when they
didn't throw the ball like that, I mean, you got it.
You got a lot of great receivers. You got a
laughish Gerald or obviously you got we We know a
lot of the main characters. We know Jered, we know
t O, we know Randy Well. You know you got
Marvin Harrison, you got laughish Er. I mean there are
some greats, but that's not the same. If Tyreek get
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back on the path that he was on and he
has another two three years like that, who's to say
when he's got fifteen sixteen thousand yards that we're looking like, okay, well.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, hey, we're gonna have to We're gonna have to
have the conversation.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Maybe maybe I'm just I mean, people say I'm getting solved,
but I've never had a problem giving people credit. I
ain't got no problem with that. I know, I know me. Man,
don't say bro, stop it. You know damn well that
man better than you.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Stop. You ain't fooling nobody.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I mean, why was up defensive lined and get up
there and say but I'm just as good as Aaron
Donald Really, dude, man, I'm just as good as lt really, dude.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
M come on that listen.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
There is every there's everything, there's levels to everything. It's
very smart. It's very smart to understand the DNA and
what your parents bless you with, you know, and to
understand that you're nothing like a certain like a certain individual.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Oh yo.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I like to tell kids, if you get everything you
can out of your ability, you succeeded.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
You don't measure yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And that's where a lot of people get in trouble
at because they measure themselves against someone else. We see
this young lady, she measured herself, well, she ain't got
that body, or she doesn't have that here, she didn't
have that dress, but she didn't have that that Uh
what perse whatever the case may be. Guys, when I
ain't feel like that, I can't run that fast, I
ain't got that car, I ain't got bro I messued.
I measure me against me. Yeah, once I got out
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of that, tell me and my brother we helped get
my grandmother out of that house.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
M hm, we success.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Now anything that anything that happened after that, Okay, we
just that's just now.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
You just added candles to the kko joe.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
But but but it gets crazy becausehen you think about society. Right,
when you think about society, society compares everything. It's all
about comparison. And what people have to understand is comparison
is the thief and joy at all times. But everyone
everyone is doing something for someone else's validation always, Well
they had it on, so I'm gonna get it where
if they're if they're wearing it. That means that gives
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me a certain look or certain certain type of status
of some sort and is as much as we say.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I'm my own person. I don't want to be like
nobody else.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Everybody goes out and does exactly what everybody else is doing.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Everybody everybody's sheep, everybody's sheep.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But anytime you don't follow whatever the trend may be,
or you're a little different than what everybody else is doing,
Oh you're weird.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Oh yeah, they got that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Something's wrong with him. Everybody want to.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Fit in it.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Don't bother me show now.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I see these guys now, and you know, I guess
the thing now is guys painting the nails.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I ain't aboudy the mail polish. It ain't me.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I don't care what. Let me ask your question, O Joe,
can you throw me a touchdown? Can you catch a touchdown?
Can you hit the shot? That's what I care about.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Come on now, I did.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That's all I wanted to got to do. The Bringer
is asked to be on practice on time, be in
the meetings on time, and we have a game performed.
Whatever you did that didn't harm anybody. I don't care
nothing about that, O Joe.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, no, no, yeah, I can't even talk about no pain.
Hell I was, I was doing all black this way
back and goddamn two thousand and five, two thousand and seven,
I had all black nails. You know, I was going
through that gothic stage. I went through a gothic guard.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I thought I was.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I thought, yeah, yeah, I would go. I thought I
was punk rocker. I had the blonde hair, the mouthful
of gold black.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Now I just ain't care man, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
But now, anytime you do something that.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Sixty sixty million or one hundred million, everybody else don't do.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Ah, you weird, you zesty. But that's the thing now.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
But see the thing, old Joe, I've been I've been
carrying across body since two thousand.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
If you go back and you can find pictures of
show and have it one way back when.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, now you eat it.
Hold on, I got I got ways more than you.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Hold on.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Let me show you my crossbody. I got you got one.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
This dude, the dukcase? What what Chad? What has o
Cho purchased? Oh lord, have mercy boy. Hey, I'm not
saying that Old Joe ain't got a Old Joe ain't
coming to some new found wealth. But there is signs
that he has. I'm just saying I ain't. I don't
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know how many jobs he got. He had fifty eleven,
maybe he got sixty twelve. This man no would have
got a crown. Oh Lord, have mercy Jesus.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Hey I got thrown by too.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, hey, hey, hey, hey, this is for my cigars.
Don't I keep my cigars in here when I'm when
I'm traveling, when I'm traveling.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
So you had to gonna get a fifteen twenty five
dollars bag to put cigars. You've heard what I say.
I look I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Since you've known me, have you ever seen me without one? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah you you listen, you you you.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The funny thing about it is you carry cross party bags.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
It's part of the European culture. It's part of the
Upean culture. And depending on where you go, depending on
where you go.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Everybody you go to Europe. That's all you said.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Listen, yeah, that's all you see.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
The funny thing about it the people that make fun
of it are so centralized and being in the States
where they're not used to seeing it, you know, and
it hasn't been I don't know, not not really informed.
It's just something that they're not used to seeing because
not very many people do it here in the States,
and those that do it's normally businessmen, those of a
certain status, and they carry it for a reason.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Uh yeah, I mean a lot of uh, a lot
of the NBA players NFL.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I mean because a lot of those bags they're expensive expensive.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean you I mean you see guys get carrying
those those hawks. Man, those guys, those bags are a
hundred thousand, two hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you're you'll never know
because most people aren't aren't privy to that though, those
those type of things. You know, if it's not what
everybody else is doing, you know, it's frowned upon or
it's not cool.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I wouldn't, oh Jo, I was one of those guys.
I used to be mad if I ever got money,
ain't no way I'm gonna spend X for a house,
or I would spend why for a car, or I
would do this for a watch until I got the money,
So what's the whole What is the point of working
your ass off and not and not enjoy at least
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a bite of the fruit from the tree that you
help them? That makes that that that doesn't make sense
to me. I'm not saying that everything that comes out
you have to get it. But shouldn't you enjoy yourself
since you are the one, Because I.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Promise you might work your ass off and leave one
hundred million.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And I guarantee you people you you leave it too,
I guarantee you they gonna fend hell out of it.
I guarantee you when you left them, they won't leave
somebody else.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, right through it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, So I'm gonna get some enjoyment. I you know,
I'm gonna get some enjoyment.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
You know. I want my kids and hopefully that the grandkids.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
But I hope you know they they're not sitting around
being been waiters, waiting on me to kick over so
they can get some bread. But but I never understood that.
I never understood that.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
O Jo.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
But but oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You know where we come from. We didn't we didn't
we didn't see nobody having no Mercedes. I ain't I
ain't seen no Mercedes until.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, hold on, hold on,
hold on boy, no, listen here. Now that's that's a
great story. Now you see what that Jack is said
on me right there right and say look the city.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Oh you had jack. Boy.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Listen, let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
If if you listen to Rick Ross music and you
talk about the boy the booth boys, you listen to
Trick Daddy and Trina, you know, I didn't seen fifteen
sixty year olds with Mercedes with Donk Chevy's, you know,
supposed to be in school, but you know, they doing
their things. So I grew up seeing the young fellas,
and I always wanted it. I wanted the Chevy so bad.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I wanted a glasshouse.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I wanted the ninety a box Chevy with the ninety
I wanted all that. But I'm looking at little kids. Boy,
you're a freshman.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
What you're doing driving a bens?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
What you're doing a ninety account?
Speaker 6 (14:38):
What do you?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
My grandma, That'll never be you.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I'll tell you that that'll never be I'm in church
every day.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Start with a wife. I was in church, oo We
both grew up with our grandparents.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
You going to church.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Oh hey, I was a junior deacon.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I was in the choir.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
What but don't don't let don't let me have to
see what we have.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Him number four ninety two add someone for a suitable
to amazing grace?
Speaker 4 (15:11):
How sweet the sound? Oh man?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh yes, sir, Mary Party, Barney and Mary gonna have
you and Bible study. They're gonna have you inquired. And
then you have like junior decas and all the man. Please,
but see the thing. If you could see something and see,
it's easy to if you see it. Because I think
the best thing that ever happened to me is that
I had a brother that was three years older, and
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I saw he had it because but when I was
growing up, we growing up, we just had the dream
all we have with aspirations. I saw Miami Advice, and
that was the first time I saw I'm hearing about it.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I'm hearing about it.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Ferrari, I'm seeing Rolex, I see Vasachi, I see Lenny.
I said, oh, I got to get that. I gotta
get that, wasn't I mean I gotta get that?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
O Joe.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
So well, that's my success I've measured my success by
I've already exceeded. Basically, if you just look at me
from people from Glennville, I'd be Musk to them.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I'm Jef Bethos to them.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yes, sir, yeah, And the funny thing And I don't
I don't mean to pivot off topics, but still on topic.
What I don't like about today being a followers, allowing
those that you know are on the right path to
do the right thing, and allowing them allowing them to
do the wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
No, you gotta pull them back to No, bro, that
ain't you.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Listen, there was.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So much structure and discipline during our day. So think
about what you just said. You seeing all the things
you want? Right, I'm seeing all the things I want.
Even if I wanted to move that happening and do
what they was doing, you know, because because Grandma can't
see what I'm doing outside the house. There was so
much structuring and discipline in the streets. Even if a
one or two, we're not even just trying to hang around.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Man, Man, if you don't get to ye, this ain't you.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
This same for you?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
This ain't for you.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Even if I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
They're like, hey, they're like little sharp man. You go, Hey,
you going places, man, you go into college. Hey man,
I'm gonna see you on TV one day.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, get him right in here. Yeah, absolutely, man. He
kept me in line with my mama. Couldn't see Tyreek
turned thirty one in March.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Tyreek is number seven on the active list with eleven thousand,
ninety eight yards, but he lands him just forty two
all time. Tyreek got plenty of time. I saw him
working out. He looks fast, he looks twitchy. He's lost
weight because I remember I told you you I thought
I thought he got a little bit too muscle bound.
I thought he got a little bit too muscle bound. Hey,
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now he looks twitchy.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah. Hey, it was so funny unk watch him in person.
Obviously we see him on TV, we see him on ESPN.
But to watch that joker, you hear me up closer
in person. Come off that goddamn line.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
I ain't never seen anybody get and.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Then and then reaccelerate in two steps nine. We ain't
talking about no taking no time to get going. I'm
talking about right now. I got to have it, brick man.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It was a joy.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
It was a joy to see up closer in person
man and the worst ethic and just.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Oh Man doll. It was beautiful. It was a beautiful sight.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I mean, look, I hope he hope he gets it
together because he's on a historic path. Today ESPN released
the NFL rankings, voted on by coach A Scoutson executive.
The number one rated receiver Jamar Chase, the number two
rated receiver, Justin Jefferson, the number three rated receiver, Tyreek
Hill number four, CD Lamb number five, AJ Brown number six,
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i'm in roth st Brown number seven, Elite Neighbors eight,
Nico Collins nine, Mike Evans ten, Garret Wilson. What did
they get right? What did they get wrong?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I mean it's right, it's right on one through I
mean one and two.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Even with the down year, we need to understand how
special Tyreek.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
He had one, He had one bad year. Look at it.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
CD had a down year. See he got ended up
getting nick and missing time. But CD is is a
top is a top receiver?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Absolutely absolutely, uh with what I would have done, obviously,
I love what Nego Collins did last year.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I love what Milk my Melik Neighbors did. Last year.
I would love to have Nike Mike Evans after agent.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I would love to.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Have Mike Evans and give him more credit for the
consistency in which he's put up the numbers he's put
up over the years, and always having a thousand yards
and and and being the heart and soul of that
Tampa Bay Bucks. Uh defense, Mam and Roth obviously tremendous, tremendous,
A J. Brown, tremendous. Garrett Wilson. I like Garrett Wilson,
you know, had a one hell of a rookie year. Obviously,
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the quarterback carousel over in New York it's been up
and down, but he's still he's still put up decent numbers.
You know, he got paid so he can he can
be happy and he can sit back and do what
he needs to do. Now with Justin Fields, I'm looking
for him to get back in that that thirteen fourteen
hundred yard range and put up some TVs.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Brian Thomas Jr. I'm I'm just I'm just looking at
some names.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Pookah, Pooka, the cool Yes, I'm just I'm just putting
some I'm just throwing names out here and just see
what we're gonna do with them.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
So if we start.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
NFC, So we're going to NFC the East. Okay, they
got neighbors, they got CD, they got aj so they
got four teams, they got three players, they got a
player off each team in that division.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
So we go to the NFC North. So they got
two guys arm and Raw and they got Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I don't think Chicago have a player that should be
in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Who else Green Bay, Green Bay does have anybody, nor
does Chicago. Yeah, okay, Chicago, Green maint No, Okay, NFC
South we got Mike Evans, Mike.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah. Look, I like Drake London, but I don't think
he's top ten yet. O Joe.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Okay, So a few a few more years in strings
of consistency, you know, it puts it puts him in
that conversation, actually him actually being the he is the
number one, but I mean it actually showing up every
single week on film on ESPN, it's always something number
five is doing.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah, sure, because when when when when Julio Jones.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Played, You've seen every week every week. I haven't gotten
that from from brother brother London yet. I'm sure he's
capable of doing it. They just haven't found it. Him
and him and Mike Pennick Jr. They're gonna they gonna
create that magic.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
NFC South, you got Brian Thomas, you got Nico Collins.
Pittman is is growing, but he's not top ten Tennessee
Calvin Ridley.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Hey, hey, you know what.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Listen, Calvin, he's he's fringe.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Top ten. Now these fringe belongs to that.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
We take away. We take away that issue we had
in Atlanta. We take that away, and we have he's a.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Player ability, his ability to separate the route.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Run You know one thing you guys from Alabama can do,
should run around?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yes, sir mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
After AFC Pittsburgh got anybody top ten DK, they left
the DK is not in there?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Uh who else?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Look like?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I think we like team, but I don't think. I
don't think anybody thinks he's a top ten receiver. It's
too many, even if you even considered him one B.
I don't think he's I don't think he's better than
any of these guys that we got listed.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Right, But I put those players, the T Higgins, the
T Higgins, the DK, Metcalfs Brian Thomas Jr. All those
dudes that are not in the top ten that next
right next right, yes, right right below ten, but just
good enough. Let's happen those that are ten, if they're
on office side, they can come in and step in
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and still do one hell.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Of a job.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
George Pickens the number one being hurt or being out.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
George Pickens does save flowers.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yet Oh yeah, oh yeah, hell when when when?
Speaker 5 (23:31):
When?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
When?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
From Tank Dale?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
When Tank Deller is healthy, he's games.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
They didn't have Davonte, they might have Jamison Williams, Jackson Smith,
Jackson Smith and J. A. J. J.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Davonte.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
That's another one.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Smith Adams.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely still still yeah, I'm not sure
what yea.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
DeVante Adams is in.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
He got to be at least he got to at
least a decade. He got to be at least a decade,
o't Joe?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah yeah, one one one of the best, one of
the best, right runners ever bright ever?
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Oh yeah ever? Uh Davonte Smith.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yes, slim reaper, slim reaper.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I mean, look, once you get past that top five,
the next five you take a and you won't be
just hey, okay, you got him.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Okay, okay, come.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
On son, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's exactly how
it goes.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
And then obviously based on based on who you ask,
it always changes based on preference because people always want
to go for the player that's the part of the team.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
We talked about this, O Joe, Like when we had
the quarterbacks, You're like, okay, once you get past that
top five, you're like, okay, the next five. Like I mean,
because once you get past Mahomes, okay, I like Burrow Okay,
nah Man, I like Lamar Okay, No, I like Josh Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
That's argument basically, and two through five, two through form
you just throw it up and and like, oh you
know that that game we used to reach in the
bag and what you whatever, you pull out, that's what
you got. My home is already out in the bag.
I reached in there. I pulled out Lamar. Okay, come on, Lamar,
I reached it there. Yeah, da man, I got Josh Allen.
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Ain't like now now I want to put him back
and try to see get somebody now.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Hell no, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You can't go wrong either way.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You go I agree who Okay, Ojo. Robert Craft had
a lot to say about Bill Belichick since they ended
their partnership. Is oning the head coaches one of the
greatest dynasties dynasties in sports history. In January of twenty
twenty four, and Craft's latest comments on Dudes Undudes Podcasts
That's Julian Edelman and Gronk's podcast, Bob said he mister
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Kraft said he took a big risk in nineteen ninety
nine when he lured coach Belichick away from a rival Jets.
Edelman asked Kraft what was his best decision he made
since purchasing the Patriots. Kraft said, well, one that I
got questioned the most.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Was nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I gave the number one He gave a first round
draft pick. That's not the number one overall pick. He
gave a first round draft pick in order to select
coach Belichick, who had only won a little over forty
percent of his game.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Then to get him out.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Thinking that coach Belichick to come to the Patriots in
nineteen ninety nine was a big risk. I got hammered
by the Boston media, but he was with us for
twenty four years and we did okay today, Coach Belichick
said the risk was taken on the other side. As
I told Robert multiple times through the years, I took
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a big risk by taking the New England Patriots head
coaching job. I already had an opportunity to be a
head coach in the New York Jets, but the ownership
situation was unstable.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Belichick went on to say he was.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Warned by multiple previous Patriot coaches and other NFL organizations
that taking the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Job was going to come with many internal obstacles.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I mean kind of I don't but.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Here's the thing. Coach Belichick was right. Coach Belichick had
a job.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Coach Belichick took a huge risk because he left the
situation for the uncertainty, and he listed all the things
that were ten million dollars over the cap A lot
of people, maybe I don't know, his meant to the
guy that gave him a start, and he looked up
to with coach Barcells. Coach Barcells left and became the
Jets head coach, brought Coach Belichick with him, and then
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Coach Belichick.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Was I guess the coaching waiting right me.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I think I'm different on Joe, I've never had a
problem fs one.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Skip took a chance on me.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Because no professional athlete had done what I did, what did,
what I was doing, what I was about to do,
which was sent across from a journalist and debate topics
after topics, football, basketball, track and field, golf, tennis, social
issues didn't matter.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Oh Joe, we'll get back to that right now.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
We got a very special guest joining us. He attended
your Receiver workshop, Jaden Reed, Green Bay Packers wide receiver Jade.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
How you doing, bro, Jay?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
What main't nothing?
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Man?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Man, I'm right here, man, one foot in front of
the other, you know, making it do what to do?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Let me get your take on this, Jaden, What were
some of the things that you learned at this workshop
that you didn't know going into it?
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Man, It's just I was talking to about a little bit.
Just just brings the swagger personality to my routes and.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Everything like that.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
So you know, that was like one of the biggest
things I took from it in the confidence and the
swagger that everybody had out there. You know, I just
feel like I need a little more greediness and dog into.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
My game, you know, and I feel like I get
too nice out there.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You got to believe you the baddest mo F on
the planet, especially confidence. And look, if you don't have
that as a wide receiver, bo, you ain't got nothing,
no question. I bet you best believe that guy that
you're going across from he got it.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Oh, yeah for sure, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
What about some of the things, because you know when
I talked, when I used to talk to guys, I
was like, look, you want to be you want to
play half a man? You never let her want a
guy to put his put both put the stop side
up in your chairs. Half a man. Hey, you ain't
getting both hands on me. You might get one, and
I'm gonna break it. As soon as you stick it
out there, I'm gonna try to break your.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Yeah, that that gotta break, sure, Yeah, I know that.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Go ahead on yo, yeah, nook.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
We we talked about We talked about a little bit,
a little bit of all that took man, every every route.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You know, how to how to beat how to beat man,
and how to be you know.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Different different coverages and what to do, understand understanding leverage,
how to get open, how to set people up happening,
how to manipulate, you know, and transitioning and getting in
and out of stuff. Obviously was it was only two days.
There was only so much that we could do. But
I want to give you know, the young bulls, even
with them already having success, I want to give them
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enough information to be able to take one thing, just
take one thing from it that you can add to
your game and go back and know that you've improved
in some area, whatever it may be. And the funny
thing about it that the things that they're going to
improve on, these players that happened to show them Inclue,
including jay the things that they're going to improve on
a thing that the naked eye can't see. People watching
on TV, you'll not even be able to see it.
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Sometimes the coaches might not be able to see it.
But I want them to be able to go back
and make everyone job around them easier. Hell, Jayden, go
back and add something to us. Arsenal, goddamn coach, look
at with shit. This is something else. This opens up
the playbook because now what I thought he couldn't do
was the fuck now we can. But again, when it
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comes to the NFL, when it comes to players in general,
and Jadas I'm not talking about you in general. You
know what what coaches have to do. Coaches sometimes have
to hide players weaknesses, so to me, that always limits
what I can do, what I could do with you
to do exactly, so I want them to continue to
come despite it looking good on Sundays at one o'clock.
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Let's come here. Let's work on some things that are
weaknesses that nobody else can see. Let's make our weaknesses
our strengths so there are no holes in your game
at all. So when you do go back, it makes
everybody else jobbing around you easy, especially office of coordinator
and you, goddamn your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Jay, let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I don't know if you know this, but at one
point in time, I was a big, slow wide receiver
that I ate and lifted my way down to a
three point stance and I ended up playing moving the
tight end. But the thing that I did at the
tight end position is that I ran routes. But I
was always thinking about the fourth quarter. So although he
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might like, oh man, yeah I deed you up on
that one, you know you didn't.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I'm just sitting your ass up or something.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I got in the exactly when I need it, because
I gotta keep something, you know, I got to keep
a little cash on me. Don't never leave home without
some cash because everybody don't take credit card, everybody don't
take American Express because they don't want to pay that
three percent. Always leave home with a little cash on
you if it ain't nothing but one hundred dollars on
your in twitties.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
But I'm gonna keep some cash.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
On me because come fourth quarter, when you covered that
seventh route that you like that you was up underneath,
you ran to the outside like, yeah, I got that.
Now I'm gonna run that basic cross on your ass?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yep? Yeah? Is that? Is that? How is that?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
How you think? Do you think about? Like when I'm
running the round? Yeah, quarter quarter, I'm sitting your ass
up for the third and fourth.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
No doubt.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
You definitely can't pull everything out of two box said
once like you said, man, you gotta keep a little
cash for later.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
You know what I'm saying. So you know what I mean.
It's different left.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
It's like you're saying, it's different leverlses, different coverages you
gonna see, So you know, it's a lot of different
techniques you got to use on different routes and looks
that you're gonna get. So I one hundred percent agree
with that for Shure, like sometimes you got to save
it to a little later, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
So hey, hey, I had a question too, do you
have do you have the freedom?
Speaker 5 (33:14):
You know, obviously you're going right on to your three
you're going into.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Your third year with the concepts over there. As far
as when it comes to the passing game, do they
allow you now that you're going to your third year,
do they give you a little freedom to play with
your split sometimes because sometimes the plays and the routes
that you run, they become repetitive. And obviously with the
you know, the defenders obviously they study in film. They
know what hell if you go plus two, I already
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know what he's doing is the balls on the left
hands and the balls in the right half, and he's
inside edge. I know what's coming. Are you allowed to
play with just split a little bit long as you
end up in the.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Same Yeah, going into your three for show, you know,
just understand the playbuck and all that. The games slowing
down for me, so you know that's giving them more
confidence in me to know, you know, do stuff like that,
you know, move or step out from the half, you
know what I'm saying. Whatever they may be one step
out from the split, switch my feed you know that.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Yeah, all that kind of stuff, you know, that stuff
make a difference.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
So when you got confidence in the play book, you
know what you're doing, you can just play five. So
he definitely, you know, giving me a little more freedom
to do stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Man, what you're Early in my career, I would, I would,
I would line up wrong. Ain't sharing to get over here?
Oh he don't even know what he's doing. Yeah, I'm
gonna cook your ass. You think I don't know what
I'm doing. I'm glad you think that, But don't you
if I know I was supposed to be on the
rister right hand the formationion I go to the left.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
There like eighty four eighty four. I'm like, oh, yeah,
my bad. He don't even know what he got. He
ain't worry about I'm going barbecue, you know that exactly.
But let me ask you. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
John didn't have a problem because you know, in practice,
I like to try different things. Oh Joe, he says,
I don't care what you do. You can go to
the bathroom, you can go, or the milkshake, you can
do whatever. But with my back foot hit as long
as you were you're supposed to be. I don't give
a damn about all that other stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Exactly, play fast, you know what I'm saying. Play fast.
It gets the way you need to get because a.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Lot of times you don't like, Hey, just run straight,
give him a nod breakout, give them a nad I
break in.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Oh you know, run down there. No, come on, man, yes, sir,
these guys watched the two.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Ye Yeah, absolutely, I hate coach. I hate coaches too
when it comes to X and those and the routers
drawn a certain way on on paper, and they expect
the routes have an exact same way it is drawn
up on paper. That's not the game of football. That's
not the game of all. That's another reason why I
was I was happy. You know, the young bulls showed
up because there's a hundred different ways to won one route.
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There's a hundred different ways to run one route and
still stay.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Within the time in the offense.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
No, anytime you get that many great players to get
in one spot and they all ruin the same routes.
There's always something you can steal from somebody else. There's
always something you can steal from somebody.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Oh tell you a jade. I had a smart mind,
so we we be Hey, they be gonna draw something up.
And I've been on rend it a whole different way.
And then like eighty four, that's not the way we
drew it up, I say, But the way y'all drew
it up them exits and O's didn't move.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
That he knew.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
So that's why I read it the way I read it,
and that's why it sucked on that paper that y'all
had it on. But but I like the fact if
the coach will give you lead way, he has to understand.
You gotta realize I'm doing this in real time. I
understand what we saw on tape. But what we saw
on tape and what that joker just did on this
route wasn't what we saw on tape. So I had
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to go accordingly.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Yeah, yeah, we ain't robots man.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Listen. I think sometimes at times officer coordinators, obviously speaking
from an offensive perspective, they get they get caught in
their ego and one of the things that look exactly
like their scheme, exactly why they.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Drew it up.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Oh, Yoe, you know what I'm saying, Oh Joe, you
drawing up? If I build a house, bro I want you.
Ain't nothing wrong with this design, right right?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But sometimes you got you got to know, yes, yes, yeah,
you got some. Sometimes sometimes they don't like it.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Man, Sometimes me Grandma, Grandma mac and cheese ain't gonna
taste like Auntie mac and cheese.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
You know what I'm saying, a little different. You see
men on it?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but don't do too much because you
know right now, Jay, they and they are Mussarella. They
added cheddar, they had epper jack, they had for five seven. Man,
I got this seven cheese mac and cheese. Noah, give
me one.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Give me the cheddar.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
That's all I want, the cheese, Okay, I don't want
the seven layer of mac and cheese. Sometimes we do,
you now, Sometimes people can get to you Knowloe, to
add them grapes and pecans to the to the potato salad.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Yeah, messed up a great dish. This would gonna be
a great dish, and you fed it up.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
I don't want none of that.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I don't want none of that.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
The rankers came out today, Jaden.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
The top ten receivers is voted on by coaching, scouts
and executives. Jamar Chase was one, Jefferson with two, ty
Reek with three, CD was four. A. J. Brown was five,
Armin Ross Saint Brown was sick. Belie Neighbors was seven,
Nico Collins eight, Mike Evans nine, Garrett Wilson's ten.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
You like this list?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
And are we gonna see next year in the twenty
twenty six rankings? Are we gonna see Jayden Red in
the top ten?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
I love the list, man.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
You know, I don't make the rules, so you know
that's what's on the list, and you know, stat see
for itself.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
You feel me. Those guys you know, got a great
resume and that's what I'm working for every day. You
feel me. That's why I'm at the workshop.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
You feel me trying to learn from guys like that
to put that into my two boxing, you know, make
myself a great receiver that.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
I know I can be.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
So you know that just motivation, man, every day, you know,
just remembering that you know kind of stuff, and you know,
just going day to day in day out, just working
you know, do.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You watch other guys? Do you mean like when you
when you watching take, do you do you watch that,
you watch a chase or do you watch it? Jell
Tyreek a little different animal.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Because like, yeah, he like lighting in the bottle. You know,
it's it's stuff you can take from everybody, though, you know,
I watch everybody. I watched all I even watched the
younger guys. You feel me like, you know Brian Thomas,
you know, elite neighbors, you know, all those guys nice.
You know, it's always something you can take from somebody else,
you know. Uh so, yeah, of course I watched everybody take.
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You know, I watched Dan Tavian Wicks.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
He on my team. He got one of the best
release packages I've ever seen, exactly.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
So you feel me.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
I watch everybody in our room, you know, in our
room because the league, whatever it may be.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
You feel me like you can learn from anybody.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
So, m hey, dude, do you ever I mean one
of the things that put your back up with you
you look low? Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, I love the I love the bottom of bottom
of quarterback. I love the bottom of quarterback coming out
of the huddle to let him know do you ever
do you you ever say anything that the jay love
or you just you letting let the players just happened.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
I ain't gonna lie or game.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
I ain't really been doing it the past three years.
But from college, from from youth league to college, I
did it a lot.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
That's one thing I could do better. You feel me
just speaking up?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
You feel me like not being Yeah, I should have
done more of that.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Yeah, hey, look at me on this this me right now?
You feel me? Yeah, So yeah, I could be I
could be better on that in the league. I ain't
did that much in the league.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Coming to the.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
League you want right, mm hmm, you you can.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
You can do it. You can do a little bit.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Long as as long as this is not distracting, not
not distracting to the play calling. Because the quarterback, you know,
the quarterback coming to the line, he already got a
whole lot of worry about.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
You got the worry about. He got done the worry
by way.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
You could Yeah, yeah, I like it.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
But look, there have been from chatter about your future.
You know, you got your rosing house. And it was
a reporter that he met with the pack, like, hey,
y'all need to bring my man off and he wants
to be here, but he wants to be compensated. Uh,
what can what can the Packer fans expect out of
Jade Reed this year and beyond a future in Green Bay?
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Man? Just you know, I'm always gonna work.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Man. At the end of the day, you know, I
had some drops. That was the talk of last year
for me, so you know I approved of that. I
went and invested in the judge machines right there in
my garage. I've been catching on it every day, so
you know, decrease on that maybe I would have hit
a thousand yards. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
So really it's me versus me at the end of
the day, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
I gotta go out there. I gotta perform. You know,
it ain't on nobody else, you feel me besides my teammates.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
You know, the guys in the program. But at the
end of the day, I gotta do my part. I
gotta you know, you can't hide it.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
You feel me.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
If you ain't working, it's gonna show me. So you
know that's one thing for show. I'm gonna work and
I'm gonna compete and I ain't setting nobody, So you
feel me. I'm just gonna go out there and do
what I do. At the end of the day, I'm
gonna let the rest take care of itself. You feel me,
I don't. I don't like to do much talking. You
feel me, I don't. I don't really talk field.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
You got you gotta talk of the field.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
Yeah, I feel like I need a little more fined
to myself like I need. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Oh, I feel must swagon more confidence. But yeah, I'll
be too. I've been humbled for too long. It ain't
give me what I need to.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Hey, go on the field, James say you suck. You suck,
and you definitely suck. I don't even know why you
on the team. As a matter of fact, if you
cover me today, you're gonna be on the waiver while Monday.
And guess what, I give it to him? See you
them two right there, they gonna get it the first half.
You gonna get it the second half. So you don't
feel left out. You gotta talk crazy to them.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
I'm on all that.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
All that, trust me.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Hey, Well, once once you get once you get in
the groove, like that first game, Once you get in
the groove and you find yourself cooking. But once that
confidence cooking and you get you catch a rhythm and
catch fired with with Jake, with j Love. Well just
let just just let everything, let everything take care.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I just know when you talk Jane, they're gonna they're
gonna be looking to take cheapsid.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
So keep your head on the swivel.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
But none of that.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
In the game of football. I can get your ass
back and make it look like a blogger.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
Yeah, I know, I'm gonna get up and mind that
up again.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about as long
as you get up at some point.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
When it's all saying done, how how does how does
Jaden want to be remembered as a wide receiver? Hopefully
you spend ten another ten years in Green Bay. But
if you move on, what do you what do you
want your resume? When when we said that, when it's
all saying done, your resume six time pro bowler, all
pro led the league, led a f C and receiving
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you know, X, Y and Z, my my numbers whatever.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
They are, yes in a row. So how we're gonna
tell Jamee's story?
Speaker 5 (43:55):
Ship.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
I really just want to be legendary. I want to
be able to you said me. I I want to
have generations behind it. You feel me like when my
son come out, You feel me, I want motherfuckers to
know that's his son. You feel me like, yeah, motherfuckers
to know that he really did that shit at a
high level. You feel me like how it was supposed.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
To be done.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
So you feel me at the end of the day,
I know a competitive I feel like I'm the most
competitive motherfucker on the planet. You feel me, I don't
care who it is. I'm gonna go one hundred percent
and I'm gonna try to do it better than the
next person. So you know, I just want to be
remembered as a legend and this shit. So you know
what I'm saying, Like, I'm doing this shit for my pops.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
He's not here with me no more. He passed twenty fifteen.
He was at every game. You feel me. He the
reason I'm doing this shit. So about right now, you
know what I'm.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
Saying, I ain't accomplished nothing because you know he's here
for me to live out and do it at the
highest level.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
So that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Wow, thanks for coming back and sharing the story. Congratulations
on going to the Wide Retriever workout. Best of luck
this year. A. I can't think of a better time
to have a great season, this contract year. You know
what I'm hey, go out there, get you one hundred
for about thirteen fourteen hundred yards about fourteen touchdown and
tell them break bread, now, break bread.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
But sure, yeah we want, we want thirty three stuff.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Make them make the money right, money out of sight called.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
A fight, ain't none too, but to do it, that's it.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
May Congratulations, stay healthy this year, have a great season,
and when you get some time, come back and talk
to us again.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
So appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I appreciate it, boy.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
Yeah, blessings, love yo,
Jade Reed Green Bay Packers wide receiver. He'll be joining
us a little later in the show, Ohoe, But first,
Randy Moss calls out Tyreek. Mass said in an interview
with the South Florida Sun Stinel with ask where Tyreek
stacks up as the all time great receivers, He's nowhere
all time. Where he's at today game, Tyreek is probably
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top five. I put him top five? O Jo, you
agree with that?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh man?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Listen. I mean when we talk about all time, there's
no reason to bring up the question about somebody being
all time when they're still playing the actual game. Yeah,
and he has a lot of heat, is a lot
more time to go, but he is see his top five.
He was on a historic run. Obviously, he had a
down season last night last year. Obviously we know why
because he.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Got eleven thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Look because of the inconsistent quarterback
play at quarterback last last last season. But you have
to realize, we talk about all time, he has eleven
thousand right now, but he's now where they're done.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You know, we'll finished. Most of the time.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Players bodies start to break down, they start to lose speed,
but none of that has happened to Terry, and even
if he does lose a step or two, it's still
a step or two fast and everybody else.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Look, from time to time we do this. We did
this with Tom and Peyton whether they rank all time?
We did this with Aaron Donald and JJ Watt, Where
do they rank all time? Kind Of Reevers kind of
got that after that year that he had in two
thousand and nine, he had that historically great season and
when he had one of the great cover seasons in
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NFL history, And.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
So occasionally you'll get that.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I don't have a problem with mal said, because you're
talking about one hundred and five year history, and like
you said, he's still going. Now once his career is over,
we're gonna have to have this conversation and see where
he ranks. Because if I'm not mistaken, he has a
super ring. He's a what seven eight time pro bowler,
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he's been an All Pro. Uh, he's on the If
I'm not mistaken, I think he's on the All Decade.
He might not be on the All Decade team, he might.
I think he'll be on the All Decade team in
the twenty twenties. I don't know if he's on the
All Decade team or the twenty tens because.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
He got a late start. You know what I'm saying,
O Joe.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yes, But with that being said, I don't have a
problem with what Mas said because Mars is looking like,
hold on, how y'all just gonna have this man.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Leap for all the whole bunch of people.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Now, I know he's had, like you said, O Joe, seven,
he has what two seventeen hundred yard receiving seasons. No
other player has more more than one of those. He
has two, And you're right, he was on the historic run,
looked like he was gonna get two thousand, caught a
hamstring injury, got an ankle injury. I just think the
thing is like, and that's why it's tough. It's tough
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when guys that have gold jackets say something, yes, sir,
because it's gonna it's gonna generate above Ojoe, because man,
you heard random.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Also, Randy is one of those.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Historically all time great receivers, so it carries a lot
more weight than something that didn't play the game, or
someone didn't play. Look, I understand that's their opinion. Everybody
has an opinion. But Randy Moss's opinion. When he's talking
about a receiver, it carries more weight.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It just does well.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Actually, and what he said is really not that bad
when you think about it. Tyreek being top five right
now is a really good thing, even with the down
season last year. Now, let's not let's not be food
and be and be caught up in the moment, you know,
and the fact that he had a down season. But
there's nothing wrong with him. There's nothing wrong with him
at all. But what Mass said is fair. It's fair.
I just don't like the fact that the question was
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even imposed and asked to Randy Moss. In general, when
Tyreek is still played, that makes no sense to me
at all.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
That's just a I call.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It clickbit or creating unnecessary conversations that shouldn't be had
when a player is still active anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
That makes no sense to me.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Had you know, if Tyron, let's just say I had
gotten an offensive Player of the Year in the process.
Let's just say he stayed one more year oho and
he gets two super Bowls and he has an off
Because see the thing is where we put JJ Watt
and Aaron Donald in there. What they got those dp
O wis they got Rookie of the Years and so
they were jj had two. He's the only guy to
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have two twenty SAX seasons. Aaron Donald's was on a
historic run. And so after like year six, year seven, Man,
where you put a d at? I ain't just talking
about defense. I ain't talking about defensive lineman. I'm talking
about defensive players period.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Where do you pay jj at?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Because jj Wat, I think he finished second one year
for MVP when we hadn't had a defensive player win
the MVP since nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
That was LT.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So you know we're looking at it like with Damn,
and I agree, it's just that what mar said, because
when I when I just saw the article, I'm like,
with Damn, that's harsh.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Then I but you know, you know he's saying, listen.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
He's not a historically great currently, but he is top five.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
And of course of course the article, you know, the
headline is wanted to draw you in.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
If they if they just said Moss interview with South
Sun Sentinel, ain't nobody taking that article. But when the
Tyreek ain't all time great? Oh man, you heard what
MA said?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. I mean that that's that's the game.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That's that's that's that's the sevenist of the media in
order to have as what we call clickbait to get
to the tune in and want to read what was
actually said. Wow, And in the sense when I think
about it, it's not a bad thing, it's not a
bad thing. There there are so many receivers that came
before week, you know, that laid their foundation for what.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
He's able to do now.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
And when you think about all time, Grace, they have
been some great Yes, there have been there. There have
been some great ones that have come before me during
your time, before your time.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
So don got like n nine touchdown on five hundred catches?
How you get that of that? How you get that
of that touchdown on five hundred catches?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Oh, Joe, Yeah, that's crazy. And when they when they
didn't throw the ball like that, I mean, you got it.
You got a lot of great receivers. You got a
laughish Gerald or obviously you got we We know a
lot of the main characters. We know Jered, we know
t O, we know Randy Well. You know you got
Marvin Harrison, you got laughish Er. I mean there are
some greats, but that's not the same. If Tyreek get
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back on the path that he was on and he
has another two three years like that, who's to say
when he's got fifteen sixteen thousand yards that we're looking like, okay, well.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, hey, we're gonna have to We're gonna have to
have the conversation.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Maybe maybe I'm just I mean, people say I'm getting solved,
but I've never had a problem giving people credit. I
ain't got no problem with that. I know, I know me. Man,
don't say bro, stop it. You know damn well that
man better than you.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Stop. You ain't fooling nobody.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I mean, why was up defensive lined and get up
there and say but I'm just as good as Aaron
Donald Really, dude, man, I'm just as good as lt really, dude.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
M come on that listen.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
There is every there's everything, there's levels to everything. It's
very smart. It's very smart to understand the DNA and
what your parents bless you with, you know, and to
understand that you're nothing like a certain like a certain individual.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Oh yo.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I like to tell kids, if you get everything you
can out of your ability, you succeeded.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
You don't measure yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And that's where a lot of people get in trouble
at because they measure themselves against someone else. We see
this young lady, she measured herself, well, she ain't got
that body, or she doesn't have that here, she didn't
have that dress, but she didn't have that that Uh
what perse whatever the case may be. Guys, when I
ain't feel like that, I can't run that fast, I
ain't got that car, I ain't got bro I messued.
I measure me against me. Yeah, once I got out
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of that, tell me and my brother we helped get
my grandmother out of that house.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
M hm, we success.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Now anything that anything that happened after that, Okay, we
just that's just now.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
You just added candles to the kko joe.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
But but but it gets crazy becausehen you think about society. Right,
when you think about society, society compares everything. It's all
about comparison. And what people have to understand is comparison
is the thief and joy at all times. But everyone
everyone is doing something for someone else's validation always, Well
they had it on, so I'm gonna get it where
if they're if they're wearing it. That means that gives
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me a certain look or certain certain type of status
of some sort and is as much as we say.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I'm my own person. I don't want to be like
nobody else.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Everybody goes out and does exactly what everybody else is doing.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Everybody everybody's sheep, everybody's sheep.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But anytime you don't follow whatever the trend may be,
or you're a little different than what everybody else is doing,
Oh you're weird.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Oh yeah, they got that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Something's wrong with him. Everybody want to.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Fit in it.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Don't bother me show now.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I see these guys now, and you know, I guess
the thing now is guys painting the nails.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I ain't aboudy the mail polish. It ain't me.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I don't care what. Let me ask your question, O Joe,
can you throw me a touchdown? Can you catch a touchdown?
Can you hit the shot? That's what I care about.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Come on now, I did.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That's all I wanted to got to do. The Bringer
is asked to be on practice on time, be in
the meetings on time, and we have a game performed.
Whatever you did that didn't harm anybody. I don't care
nothing about that, O Joe.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, no, no, yeah, I can't even talk about no pain.
Hell I was, I was doing all black this way
back and goddamn two thousand and five, two thousand and seven,
I had all black nails. You know, I was going
through that gothic stage. I went through a gothic guard.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I thought I was.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I thought, yeah, yeah, I would go. I thought I
was punk rocker. I had the blonde hair, the mouthful
of gold black.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Now I just ain't care man, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
But now, anytime you do something that.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Sixty sixty million or one hundred million, everybody else don't do.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Ah, you weird, you zesty. But that's the thing now.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
But see the thing, old Joe, I've been I've been
carrying across body since two thousand.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
If you go back and you can find pictures of
show and have it one way back when.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, now you eat it.
Hold on, I got I got ways more than you.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Hold on.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Let me show you my crossbody. I got you got one.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
This dude, the dukcase? What what Chad? What has o
Cho purchased? Oh lord, have mercy boy. Hey, I'm not
saying that Old Joe ain't got a Old Joe ain't
coming to some new found wealth. But there is signs
that he has. I'm just saying I ain't. I don't
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know how many jobs he got. He had fifty eleven,
maybe he got sixty twelve. This man no would have
got a crown. Oh Lord, have mercy Jesus.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Hey I got thrown by too.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, hey, hey, hey, hey, this is for my cigars.
Don't I keep my cigars in here when I'm when
I'm traveling, when I'm traveling.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
So you had to gonna get a fifteen twenty five
dollars bag to put cigars. You've heard what I say.
I look I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Since you've known me, have you ever seen me without one? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah you you listen, you you you.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The funny thing about it is you carry cross party bags.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
It's part of the European culture. It's part of the
Upean culture. And depending on where you go, depending on
where you go.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Everybody you go to Europe. That's all you said.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Listen, yeah, that's all you see.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
The funny thing about it the people that make fun
of it are so centralized and being in the States
where they're not used to seeing it, you know, and
it hasn't been I don't know, not not really informed.
It's just something that they're not used to seeing because
not very many people do it here in the States,
and those that do it's normally businessmen, those of a
certain status, and they carry it for a reason.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Uh yeah, I mean a lot of uh, a lot
of the NBA players NFL.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I mean because a lot of those bags they're expensive expensive.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean you I mean you see guys get carrying
those those hawks. Man, those guys, those bags are a
hundred thousand, two hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you're you'll never know
because most people aren't aren't privy to that though, those
those type of things. You know, if it's not what
everybody else is doing, you know, it's frowned upon or
it's not cool.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I wouldn't, oh Jo, I was one of those guys.
I used to be mad if I ever got money,
ain't no way I'm gonna spend X for a house,
or I would spend why for a car, or I
would do this for a watch until I got the money,
So what's the whole What is the point of working
your ass off and not and not enjoy at least
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a bite of the fruit from the tree that you
help them? That makes that that that doesn't make sense
to me. I'm not saying that everything that comes out
you have to get it. But shouldn't you enjoy yourself
since you are the one, Because I.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Promise you might work your ass off and leave one
hundred million.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And I guarantee you people you you leave it too,
I guarantee you they gonna fend hell out of it.
I guarantee you when you left them, they won't leave
somebody else.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, right through it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, So I'm gonna get some enjoyment. I you know,
I'm gonna get some enjoyment.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
You know. I want my kids and hopefully that the grandkids.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
But I hope you know they they're not sitting around
being been waiters, waiting on me to kick over so
they can get some bread. But but I never understood that.
I never understood that.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
O Jo.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
But but oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You know where we come from. We didn't we didn't
we didn't see nobody having no Mercedes. I ain't I
ain't seen no Mercedes until.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, hold on, hold on,
hold on boy, no, listen here. Now that's that's a
great story. Now you see what that Jack is said
on me right there right and say look the city.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Oh you had jack. Boy.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Listen, let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
If if you listen to Rick Ross music and you
talk about the boy the booth boys, you listen to
Trick Daddy and Trina, you know, I didn't seen fifteen
sixty year olds with Mercedes with Donk Chevy's, you know,
supposed to be in school, but you know, they doing
their things. So I grew up seeing the young fellas,
and I always wanted it. I wanted the Chevy so bad.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I wanted a glasshouse.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I wanted the ninety a box Chevy with the ninety
I wanted all that. But I'm looking at little kids. Boy,
you're a freshman.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
What you're doing driving a bens?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
What you're doing a ninety account?
Speaker 6 (14:38):
What do you?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
My grandma, That'll never be you.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I'll tell you that that'll never be I'm in church
every day.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Start with a wife. I was in church, oo We
both grew up with our grandparents.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
You going to church.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Oh hey, I was a junior deacon.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I was in the choir.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
What but don't don't let don't let me have to
see what we have.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Him number four ninety two add someone for a suitable
to amazing grace?
Speaker 4 (15:11):
How sweet the sound? Oh man?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh yes, sir, Mary Party, Barney and Mary gonna have
you and Bible study. They're gonna have you inquired. And
then you have like junior decas and all the man. Please,
but see the thing. If you could see something and see,
it's easy to if you see it. Because I think
the best thing that ever happened to me is that
I had a brother that was three years older, and
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I saw he had it because but when I was
growing up, we growing up, we just had the dream
all we have with aspirations. I saw Miami Advice, and
that was the first time I saw I'm hearing about it.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I'm hearing about it.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Ferrari, I'm seeing Rolex, I see Vasachi, I see Lenny.
I said, oh, I got to get that. I gotta
get that, wasn't I mean I gotta get that?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
O Joe.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
So well, that's my success I've measured my success by
I've already exceeded. Basically, if you just look at me
from people from Glennville, I'd be Musk to them.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I'm Jef Bethos to them.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yes, sir, yeah, And the funny thing And I don't
I don't mean to pivot off topics, but still on topic.
What I don't like about today being a followers, allowing
those that you know are on the right path to
do the right thing, and allowing them allowing them to
do the wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
No, you gotta pull them back to No, bro, that
ain't you.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Listen, there was.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So much structure and discipline during our day. So think
about what you just said. You seeing all the things
you want? Right, I'm seeing all the things I want.
Even if I wanted to move that happening and do
what they was doing, you know, because because Grandma can't
see what I'm doing outside the house. There was so
much structuring and discipline in the streets. Even if a
one or two, we're not even just trying to hang around.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Man, Man, if you don't get to ye, this ain't you.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
This same for you?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
This ain't for you.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Even if I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
They're like, hey, they're like little sharp man. You go, Hey,
you going places, man, you go into college. Hey man,
I'm gonna see you on TV one day.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, get him right in here. Yeah, absolutely, man. He
kept me in line with my mama. Couldn't see Tyreek
turned thirty one in March.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Tyreek is number seven on the active list with eleven thousand,
ninety eight yards, but he lands him just forty two
all time. Tyreek got plenty of time. I saw him
working out. He looks fast, he looks twitchy. He's lost
weight because I remember I told you you I thought
I thought he got a little bit too muscle bound.
I thought he got a little bit too muscle bound. Hey,
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now he looks twitchy.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah. Hey, it was so funny unk watch him in person.
Obviously we see him on TV, we see him on ESPN.
But to watch that joker, you hear me up closer
in person. Come off that goddamn line.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
I ain't never seen anybody get and.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Then and then reaccelerate in two steps nine. We ain't
talking about no taking no time to get going. I'm
talking about right now. I got to have it, brick man.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It was a joy.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
It was a joy to see up closer in person
man and the worst ethic and just.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Oh Man doll. It was beautiful. It was a beautiful sight.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I mean, look, I hope he hope he gets it
together because he's on a historic path. Today ESPN released
the NFL rankings, voted on by coach A Scoutson executive.
The number one rated receiver Jamar Chase, the number two
rated receiver, Justin Jefferson, the number three rated receiver, Tyreek
Hill number four, CD Lamb number five, AJ Brown number six,
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i'm in roth st Brown number seven, Elite Neighbors eight,
Nico Collins nine, Mike Evans ten, Garret Wilson. What did
they get right? What did they get wrong?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I mean it's right, it's right on one through I
mean one and two.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Even with the down year, we need to understand how
special Tyreek.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
He had one, He had one bad year. Look at it.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
CD had a down year. See he got ended up
getting nick and missing time. But CD is is a
top is a top receiver?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Absolutely absolutely, uh with what I would have done, obviously,
I love what Nego Collins did last year.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I love what Milk my Melik Neighbors did. Last year.
I would love to have Nike Mike Evans after agent.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I would love to.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Have Mike Evans and give him more credit for the
consistency in which he's put up the numbers he's put
up over the years, and always having a thousand yards
and and and being the heart and soul of that
Tampa Bay Bucks. Uh defense, Mam and Roth obviously tremendous, tremendous,
A J. Brown, tremendous. Garrett Wilson. I like Garrett Wilson,
you know, had a one hell of a rookie year. Obviously,
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the quarterback carousel over in New York it's been up
and down, but he's still he's still put up decent numbers.
You know, he got paid so he can he can
be happy and he can sit back and do what
he needs to do. Now with Justin Fields, I'm looking
for him to get back in that that thirteen fourteen
hundred yard range and put up some TVs.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Brian Thomas Jr. I'm I'm just I'm just looking at
some names.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Pookah, Pooka, the cool Yes, I'm just I'm just putting
some I'm just throwing names out here and just see
what we're gonna do with them.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
So if we start.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
NFC, So we're going to NFC the East. Okay, they
got neighbors, they got CD, they got aj so they
got four teams, they got three players, they got a
player off each team in that division.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
So we go to the NFC North. So they got
two guys arm and Raw and they got Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I don't think Chicago have a player that should be
in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Who else Green Bay, Green Bay does have anybody, nor
does Chicago. Yeah, okay, Chicago, Green maint No, Okay, NFC
South we got Mike Evans, Mike.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah. Look, I like Drake London, but I don't think
he's top ten yet. O Joe.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Okay, So a few a few more years in strings
of consistency, you know, it puts it puts him in
that conversation, actually him actually being the he is the
number one, but I mean it actually showing up every
single week on film on ESPN, it's always something number
five is doing.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah, sure, because when when when when Julio Jones.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Played, You've seen every week every week. I haven't gotten
that from from brother brother London yet. I'm sure he's
capable of doing it. They just haven't found it. Him
and him and Mike Pennick Jr. They're gonna they gonna
create that magic.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
NFC South, you got Brian Thomas, you got Nico Collins.
Pittman is is growing, but he's not top ten Tennessee
Calvin Ridley.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Hey, hey, you know what.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Listen, Calvin, he's he's fringe.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Top ten. Now these fringe belongs to that.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
We take away. We take away that issue we had
in Atlanta. We take that away, and we have he's a.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Player ability, his ability to separate the route.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Run You know one thing you guys from Alabama can do,
should run around?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yes, sir mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
After AFC Pittsburgh got anybody top ten DK, they left
the DK is not in there?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Uh who else?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Look like?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I think we like team, but I don't think. I
don't think anybody thinks he's a top ten receiver. It's
too many, even if you even considered him one B.
I don't think he's I don't think he's better than
any of these guys that we got listed.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Right, But I put those players, the T Higgins, the
T Higgins, the DK, Metcalfs Brian Thomas Jr. All those
dudes that are not in the top ten that next
right next right, yes, right right below ten, but just
good enough. Let's happen those that are ten, if they're
on office side, they can come in and step in
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and still do one hell.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Of a job.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
George Pickens the number one being hurt or being out.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
George Pickens does save flowers.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yet Oh yeah, oh yeah, hell when when when?
Speaker 5 (23:31):
When?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
When?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
From Tank Dale?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
When Tank Deller is healthy, he's games.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
They didn't have Davonte, they might have Jamison Williams, Jackson Smith,
Jackson Smith and J. A. J. J.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Davonte.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
That's another one.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Smith Adams.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely still still yeah, I'm not sure
what yea.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
DeVante Adams is in.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
He got to be at least he got to at
least a decade. He got to be at least a decade,
o't Joe?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah yeah, one one one of the best, one of
the best, right runners ever bright ever?
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Oh yeah ever? Uh Davonte Smith.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yes, slim reaper, slim reaper.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I mean, look, once you get past that top five,
the next five you take a and you won't be
just hey, okay, you got him.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Okay, okay, come.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
On son, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's exactly how
it goes.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
And then obviously based on based on who you ask,
it always changes based on preference because people always want
to go for the player that's the part of the team.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
We talked about this, O Joe, Like when we had
the quarterbacks, You're like, okay, once you get past that
top five, you're like, okay, the next five. Like I mean,
because once you get past Mahomes, okay, I like Burrow Okay,
nah Man, I like Lamar Okay, No, I like Josh Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
That's argument basically, and two through five, two through form
you just throw it up and and like, oh you
know that that game we used to reach in the
bag and what you whatever, you pull out, that's what
you got. My home is already out in the bag.
I reached in there. I pulled out Lamar. Okay, come on, Lamar,
I reached it there. Yeah, da man, I got Josh Allen.
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Ain't like now now I want to put him back
and try to see get somebody now.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Hell no, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You can't go wrong either way.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You go I agree who Okay, Ojo. Robert Craft had
a lot to say about Bill Belichick since they ended
their partnership. Is oning the head coaches one of the
greatest dynasties dynasties in sports history. In January of twenty
twenty four, and Craft's latest comments on Dudes Undudes Podcasts
That's Julian Edelman and Gronk's podcast, Bob said he mister
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Kraft said he took a big risk in nineteen ninety
nine when he lured coach Belichick away from a rival Jets.
Edelman asked Kraft what was his best decision he made
since purchasing the Patriots. Kraft said, well, one that I
got questioned the most.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Was nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I gave the number one He gave a first round
draft pick. That's not the number one overall pick. He
gave a first round draft pick in order to select
coach Belichick, who had only won a little over forty
percent of his game.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Then to get him out.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Thinking that coach Belichick to come to the Patriots in
nineteen ninety nine was a big risk. I got hammered
by the Boston media, but he was with us for
twenty four years and we did okay today, Coach Belichick
said the risk was taken on the other side. As
I told Robert multiple times through the years, I took
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a big risk by taking the New England Patriots head
coaching job. I already had an opportunity to be a
head coach in the New York Jets, but the ownership
situation was unstable.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Belichick went on to say he was.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Warned by multiple previous Patriot coaches and other NFL organizations
that taking the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Job was going to come with many internal obstacles.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I mean kind of I don't but.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Here's the thing. Coach Belichick was right. Coach Belichick had
a job.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Coach Belichick took a huge risk because he left the
situation for the uncertainty, and he listed all the things
that were ten million dollars over the cap A lot
of people, maybe I don't know, his meant to the
guy that gave him a start, and he looked up
to with coach Barcells. Coach Barcells left and became the
Jets head coach, brought Coach Belichick with him, and then
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Coach Belichick.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Was I guess the coaching waiting right me.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I think I'm different on Joe, I've never had a
problem fs one.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Skip took a chance on me.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Because no professional athlete had done what I did, what did,
what I was doing, what I was about to do,
which was sent across from a journalist and debate topics
after topics, football, basketball, track and field, golf, tennis, social
issues didn't matter.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Oh Joe, we'll get back to that right now.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
We got a very special guest joining us. He attended
your Receiver workshop, Jaden Reed, Green Bay Packers wide receiver Jade.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
How you doing, bro, Jay?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
What main't nothing?
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Man?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Man, I'm right here, man, one foot in front of
the other, you know, making it do what to do?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Let me get your take on this, Jaden, What were
some of the things that you learned at this workshop
that you didn't know going into it?
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Man, It's just I was talking to about a little bit.
Just just brings the swagger personality to my routes and.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Everything like that.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
So you know, that was like one of the biggest
things I took from it in the confidence and the
swagger that everybody had out there. You know, I just
feel like I need a little more greediness and dog into.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
My game, you know, and I feel like I get
too nice out there.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You got to believe you the baddest mo F on
the planet, especially confidence. And look, if you don't have
that as a wide receiver, bo, you ain't got nothing,
no question. I bet you best believe that guy that
you're going across from he got it.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Oh, yeah for sure, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
What about some of the things, because you know when
I talked, when I used to talk to guys, I
was like, look, you want to be you want to
play half a man? You never let her want a
guy to put his put both put the stop side
up in your chairs. Half a man. Hey, you ain't
getting both hands on me. You might get one, and
I'm gonna break it. As soon as you stick it
out there, I'm gonna try to break your.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Yeah, that that gotta break, sure, Yeah, I know that.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Go ahead on yo, yeah, nook.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
We we talked about We talked about a little bit,
a little bit of all that took man, every every route.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You know, how to how to beat how to beat man,
and how to be you know.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Different different coverages and what to do, understand understanding leverage,
how to get open, how to set people up happening,
how to manipulate, you know, and transitioning and getting in
and out of stuff. Obviously was it was only two days.
There was only so much that we could do. But
I want to give you know, the young bulls, even
with them already having success, I want to give them
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enough information to be able to take one thing, just
take one thing from it that you can add to
your game and go back and know that you've improved
in some area, whatever it may be. And the funny
thing about it that the things that they're going to
improve on, these players that happened to show them Inclue,
including jay the things that they're going to improve on
a thing that the naked eye can't see. People watching
on TV, you'll not even be able to see it.
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Sometimes the coaches might not be able to see it.
But I want them to be able to go back
and make everyone job around them easier. Hell, Jayden, go
back and add something to us. Arsenal, goddamn coach, look
at with shit. This is something else. This opens up
the playbook because now what I thought he couldn't do
was the fuck now we can. But again, when it
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comes to the NFL, when it comes to players in general,
and Jadas I'm not talking about you in general. You
know what what coaches have to do. Coaches sometimes have
to hide players weaknesses, so to me, that always limits
what I can do, what I could do with you
to do exactly, so I want them to continue to
come despite it looking good on Sundays at one o'clock.
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Let's come here. Let's work on some things that are
weaknesses that nobody else can see. Let's make our weaknesses
our strengths so there are no holes in your game
at all. So when you do go back, it makes
everybody else jobbing around you easy, especially office of coordinator
and you, goddamn your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Jay, let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I don't know if you know this, but at one
point in time, I was a big, slow wide receiver
that I ate and lifted my way down to a
three point stance and I ended up playing moving the
tight end. But the thing that I did at the
tight end position is that I ran routes. But I
was always thinking about the fourth quarter. So although he
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might like, oh man, yeah I deed you up on
that one, you know you didn't.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I'm just sitting your ass up or something.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I got in the exactly when I need it, because
I gotta keep something, you know, I got to keep
a little cash on me. Don't never leave home without
some cash because everybody don't take credit card, everybody don't
take American Express because they don't want to pay that
three percent. Always leave home with a little cash on
you if it ain't nothing but one hundred dollars on
your in twitties.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
But I'm gonna keep some cash.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
On me because come fourth quarter, when you covered that
seventh route that you like that you was up underneath,
you ran to the outside like, yeah, I got that.
Now I'm gonna run that basic cross on your ass?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yep? Yeah? Is that? Is that? How is that?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
How you think? Do you think about? Like when I'm
running the round? Yeah, quarter quarter, I'm sitting your ass
up for the third and fourth.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
No doubt.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
You definitely can't pull everything out of two box said
once like you said, man, you gotta keep a little
cash for later.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
You know what I'm saying. So you know what I mean.
It's different left.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
It's like you're saying, it's different leverlses, different coverages you
gonna see, So you know, it's a lot of different
techniques you got to use on different routes and looks
that you're gonna get. So I one hundred percent agree
with that for Shure, like sometimes you got to save
it to a little later, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
So hey, hey, I had a question too, do you
have do you have the freedom?
Speaker 5 (33:14):
You know, obviously you're going right on to your three
you're going into.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Your third year with the concepts over there. As far
as when it comes to the passing game, do they
allow you now that you're going to your third year,
do they give you a little freedom to play with
your split sometimes because sometimes the plays and the routes
that you run, they become repetitive. And obviously with the
you know, the defenders obviously they study in film. They
know what hell if you go plus two, I already
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know what he's doing is the balls on the left
hands and the balls in the right half, and he's
inside edge. I know what's coming. Are you allowed to
play with just split a little bit long as you
end up in the.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Same Yeah, going into your three for show, you know,
just understand the playbuck and all that. The games slowing
down for me, so you know that's giving them more
confidence in me to know, you know, do stuff like that,
you know, move or step out from the half, you
know what I'm saying. Whatever they may be one step
out from the split, switch my feed you know that.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Yeah, all that kind of stuff, you know, that stuff
make a difference.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
So when you got confidence in the play book, you
know what you're doing, you can just play five. So
he definitely, you know, giving me a little more freedom
to do stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Man, what you're Early in my career, I would, I would,
I would line up wrong. Ain't sharing to get over here?
Oh he don't even know what he's doing. Yeah, I'm
gonna cook your ass. You think I don't know what
I'm doing. I'm glad you think that, But don't you
if I know I was supposed to be on the
rister right hand the formationion I go to the left.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
There like eighty four eighty four. I'm like, oh, yeah,
my bad. He don't even know what he got. He
ain't worry about I'm going barbecue, you know that exactly.
But let me ask you. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
John didn't have a problem because you know, in practice,
I like to try different things. Oh Joe, he says,
I don't care what you do. You can go to
the bathroom, you can go, or the milkshake, you can
do whatever. But with my back foot hit as long
as you were you're supposed to be. I don't give
a damn about all that other stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Exactly, play fast, you know what I'm saying. Play fast.
It gets the way you need to get because a.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Lot of times you don't like, Hey, just run straight,
give him a nod breakout, give them a nad I
break in.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Oh you know, run down there. No, come on, man, yes, sir,
these guys watched the two.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Ye Yeah, absolutely, I hate coach. I hate coaches too
when it comes to X and those and the routers
drawn a certain way on on paper, and they expect
the routes have an exact same way it is drawn
up on paper. That's not the game of football. That's
not the game of all. That's another reason why I
was I was happy. You know, the young bulls showed
up because there's a hundred different ways to won one route.
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There's a hundred different ways to run one route and
still stay.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Within the time in the offense.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
No, anytime you get that many great players to get
in one spot and they all ruin the same routes.
There's always something you can steal from somebody else. There's
always something you can steal from somebody.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Oh tell you a jade. I had a smart mind,
so we we be Hey, they be gonna draw something up.
And I've been on rend it a whole different way.
And then like eighty four, that's not the way we
drew it up, I say, But the way y'all drew
it up them exits and O's didn't move.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
That he knew.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
So that's why I read it the way I read it,
and that's why it sucked on that paper that y'all
had it on. But but I like the fact if
the coach will give you lead way, he has to understand.
You gotta realize I'm doing this in real time. I
understand what we saw on tape. But what we saw
on tape and what that joker just did on this
route wasn't what we saw on tape. So I had
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to go accordingly.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Yeah, yeah, we ain't robots man.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Listen. I think sometimes at times officer coordinators, obviously speaking
from an offensive perspective, they get they get caught in
their ego and one of the things that look exactly
like their scheme, exactly why they.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Drew it up.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Oh, Yoe, you know what I'm saying, Oh Joe, you
drawing up? If I build a house, bro I want you.
Ain't nothing wrong with this design, right right?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But sometimes you got you got to know, yes, yes, yeah,
you got some. Sometimes sometimes they don't like it.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Man, Sometimes me Grandma, Grandma mac and cheese ain't gonna
taste like Auntie mac and cheese.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
You know what I'm saying, a little different. You see
men on it?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but don't do too much because you
know right now, Jay, they and they are Mussarella. They
added cheddar, they had epper jack, they had for five seven. Man,
I got this seven cheese mac and cheese. Noah, give
me one.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Give me the cheddar.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
That's all I want, the cheese, Okay, I don't want
the seven layer of mac and cheese. Sometimes we do,
you now, Sometimes people can get to you Knowloe, to
add them grapes and pecans to the to the potato salad.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Yeah, messed up a great dish. This would gonna be
a great dish, and you fed it up.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
I don't want none of that.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I don't want none of that.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
The rankers came out today, Jaden.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
The top ten receivers is voted on by coaching, scouts
and executives. Jamar Chase was one, Jefferson with two, ty
Reek with three, CD was four. A. J. Brown was five,
Armin Ross Saint Brown was sick. Belie Neighbors was seven,
Nico Collins eight, Mike Evans nine, Garrett Wilson's ten.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
You like this list?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
And are we gonna see next year in the twenty
twenty six rankings? Are we gonna see Jayden Red in
the top ten?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
I love the list, man.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
You know, I don't make the rules, so you know
that's what's on the list, and you know, stat see
for itself.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
You feel me. Those guys you know, got a great
resume and that's what I'm working for every day. You
feel me. That's why I'm at the workshop.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
You feel me trying to learn from guys like that
to put that into my two boxing, you know, make
myself a great receiver that.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
I know I can be.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
So you know that just motivation, man, every day, you know,
just remembering that you know kind of stuff, and you know,
just going day to day in day out, just working
you know, do.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You watch other guys? Do you mean like when you
when you watching take, do you do you watch that,
you watch a chase or do you watch it? Jell
Tyreek a little different animal.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Because like, yeah, he like lighting in the bottle. You know,
it's it's stuff you can take from everybody, though, you know,
I watch everybody. I watched all I even watched the
younger guys. You feel me like, you know Brian Thomas,
you know, elite neighbors, you know, all those guys nice.
You know, it's always something you can take from somebody else,
you know. Uh so, yeah, of course I watched everybody take.
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You know, I watched Dan Tavian Wicks.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
He on my team. He got one of the best
release packages I've ever seen, exactly.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
So you feel me.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
I watch everybody in our room, you know, in our
room because the league, whatever it may be.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
You feel me like you can learn from anybody.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
So, m hey, dude, do you ever I mean one
of the things that put your back up with you
you look low? Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, I love the I love the bottom of bottom
of quarterback. I love the bottom of quarterback coming out
of the huddle to let him know do you ever
do you you ever say anything that the jay love
or you just you letting let the players just happened.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
I ain't gonna lie or game.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
I ain't really been doing it the past three years.
But from college, from from youth league to college, I
did it a lot.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
That's one thing I could do better. You feel me
just speaking up?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
You feel me like not being Yeah, I should have
done more of that.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Yeah, hey, look at me on this this me right now?
You feel me? Yeah, So yeah, I could be I
could be better on that in the league. I ain't
did that much in the league.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Coming to the.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
League you want right, mm hmm, you you can.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
You can do it. You can do a little bit.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Long as as long as this is not distracting, not
not distracting to the play calling. Because the quarterback, you know,
the quarterback coming to the line, he already got a
whole lot of worry about.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
You got the worry about. He got done the worry
by way.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
You could Yeah, yeah, I like it.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
But look, there have been from chatter about your future.
You know, you got your rosing house. And it was
a reporter that he met with the pack, like, hey,
y'all need to bring my man off and he wants
to be here, but he wants to be compensated. Uh,
what can what can the Packer fans expect out of
Jade Reed this year and beyond a future in Green Bay?
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Man? Just you know, I'm always gonna work.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Man. At the end of the day, you know, I
had some drops. That was the talk of last year
for me, so you know I approved of that. I
went and invested in the judge machines right there in
my garage. I've been catching on it every day, so
you know, decrease on that maybe I would have hit
a thousand yards. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
So really it's me versus me at the end of
the day, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
I gotta go out there. I gotta perform. You know,
it ain't on nobody else, you feel me besides my teammates.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
You know, the guys in the program. But at the
end of the day, I gotta do my part. I
gotta you know, you can't hide it.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
You feel me.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
If you ain't working, it's gonna show me. So you
know that's one thing for show. I'm gonna work and
I'm gonna compete and I ain't setting nobody, So you
feel me. I'm just gonna go out there and do
what I do. At the end of the day, I'm
gonna let the rest take care of itself. You feel me,
I don't. I don't like to do much talking. You
feel me, I don't. I don't really talk field.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
You got you gotta talk of the field.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
Yeah, I feel like I need a little more fined
to myself like I need. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Oh, I feel must swagon more confidence. But yeah, I'll
be too. I've been humbled for too long. It ain't
give me what I need to.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Hey, go on the field, James say you suck. You suck,
and you definitely suck. I don't even know why you
on the team. As a matter of fact, if you
cover me today, you're gonna be on the waiver while Monday.
And guess what, I give it to him? See you
them two right there, they gonna get it the first half.
You gonna get it the second half. So you don't
feel left out. You gotta talk crazy to them.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
I'm on all that.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
All that, trust me.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Hey, Well, once once you get once you get in
the groove, like that first game, Once you get in
the groove and you find yourself cooking. But once that
confidence cooking and you get you catch a rhythm and
catch fired with with Jake, with j Love. Well just
let just just let everything, let everything take care.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I just know when you talk Jane, they're gonna they're
gonna be looking to take cheapsid.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
So keep your head on the swivel.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
But none of that.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
In the game of football. I can get your ass
back and make it look like a blogger.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
Yeah, I know, I'm gonna get up and mind that
up again.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about as long
as you get up at some point.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
When it's all saying done, how how does how does
Jaden want to be remembered as a wide receiver? Hopefully
you spend ten another ten years in Green Bay. But
if you move on, what do you what do you
want your resume? When when we said that, when it's
all saying done, your resume six time pro bowler, all
pro led the league, led a f C and receiving
(43:43):
you know, X, Y and Z, my my numbers whatever.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
They are, yes in a row. So how we're gonna
tell Jamee's story?
Speaker 5 (43:55):
Ship.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
I really just want to be legendary. I want to
be able to you said me. I I want to
have generations behind it. You feel me like when my
son come out, You feel me, I want motherfuckers to
know that's his son. You feel me like, yeah, motherfuckers
to know that he really did that shit at a
high level. You feel me like how it was supposed.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
To be done.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
So you feel me at the end of the day,
I know a competitive I feel like I'm the most
competitive motherfucker on the planet. You feel me, I don't
care who it is. I'm gonna go one hundred percent
and I'm gonna try to do it better than the
next person. So you know, I just want to be
remembered as a legend and this shit. So you know
what I'm saying, Like, I'm doing this shit for my pops.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
He's not here with me no more. He passed twenty fifteen.
He was at every game. You feel me. He the
reason I'm doing this shit. So about right now, you
know what I'm.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
Saying, I ain't accomplished nothing because you know he's here
for me to live out and do it at the
highest level.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
So that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Wow, thanks for coming back and sharing the story. Congratulations
on going to the Wide Retriever workout. Best of luck
this year. A. I can't think of a better time
to have a great season, this contract year. You know
what I'm hey, go out there, get you one hundred
for about thirteen fourteen hundred yards about fourteen touchdown and
tell them break bread, now, break bread.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
But sure, yeah we want, we want thirty three stuff.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Make them make the money right, money out of sight called.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
A fight, ain't none too, but to do it, that's it.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
May Congratulations, stay healthy this year, have a great season,
and when you get some time, come back and talk
to us again.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
So appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I appreciate it, boy.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
Yeah, blessings, love yo,
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