July 18, 2025 • 54 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson break down the biggest stories shaking up the NFL right now! The duo reacts to Steelers star TJ Watt finally landing his long-awaited contract extension. Plus, Browns Wide Receiver, Jerry Jeudy and Panthers Wide Receiver Jimmy Horn Jr. join the show!
0:00 - Jets extend Sauce Gardner
2:30 - Steelers extend TJ Watt
12:35 - Micah Parsons criticize Cowboys negotiations
18:50 - Cowboys fine Trevon Diggs
21:42 - Jerry Jeudy joins the show
37:52 - Jimmy Horn Jr. Joins the show
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Twenty four hours after reaching a long term contract extension
with Garrett Wilson, the Jets rewarded Sauce Gardner with a
record setting contract four years, one hundred and twenty point
four million dollars extension eighty five point sixty five three
million guaranteed. The two time All Pro becomes the NFL's
highest paid cornerback based on average salary per year at
(00:21):
thirty point one Milo.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
What helse if saust just got paid Certain and got
paid Jacy Horner got paid Ramsey, Ramsey Stingley, Well, damn
who next?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Broncos may pass Certain the highest paid cornerback, cornerback U
twenty four million now less than a basically a year later,
the defensive player of the year, he's already dropped the field.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You know what they gonna have to come? You know
what the Bronco's gonna do with that? You know what
that You know what they gonna do, right, Certain is
going to place someth so well, so I guarantee you
management goes back and redoes it again. I guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Because you got to realize, Oh, Joe, he's still like
he's still got two years left on the contract.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh yeah, Yeah, they had a couple.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Of years so they.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, it's almost it's almost criminal. It's almost criminal.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Though.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm not trying to be funny. I'm not trying to
be funny, but it will almost be criminal for him
to be ranked fifth when it comes to play when
it's when when, yeah, it comes.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That's not knock on any of these guys, because I
think they're good.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
They're good, But I think for.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Me, yeah, I got listen. I knew, I already watched it.
It's one thing for us to talk about him. It's
one thing to watch it on TV to see what
he does on ESPN, But they have all the fellows
out here to actually play the position and have to
deal with him every day, and those that actually had
to play against him to sit there and hover have
a thirty forty minute conversation on how to beat this motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He's good for sure, for sure? You know.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So sometimes you know, media hypes people up on and
then you see him in person, you be like, what
the this.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Is your dad?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
He comes from a background where they worked oh show.
You know you go to Alabama, you know Nick Sable,
You're gonna work Nick Sable.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Now, Hey, everything he's advertised to be.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
He is that, he's for, he's for he's for sure
that We've got Jerry Judy joining us tonight. We also
have Jimmy Horn Jr. Joining us tonight. But first the
news of the day. TJ. Watt agrees to a three
year extension worth one hundred twenty.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Three million dollars.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
He becomes the highest non paid quarterback in NFL history.
One hundred and eight million of that is fully guaranteed.
The four time All Pro edge rusher in twenty twenty
one Defensive Player of the Year tied at NFL record
with twenty two and a half sacks. At forty one
million per year, Watt deal sneaks past Miles Garrett consitting
deal four years at one hundred and sixty million dollars
(03:05):
agreed upon in March. Watt also leaps Fogg's Jamar Chase
forty point three million dollar deal for the highest non
paid quarterback in NFL history. Now there are no more
lingering issues. You know, cam Heywood had his thing last year.
He's in camp. He was standing on business. He's in camp.
(03:25):
They signed they signed Aaron Rodgers in free agency. They
traded for Jalen Ramsey. They signed Darius Slay in free agency.
They signed DK metcalfin free agency Pittsburgh out of excuses. Yeah, absolutely,
What can we expect from the Steelers this year?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Now?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I don't know what I'm gonna expect from the Steelers offensively.
I don't know because I don't know what we're gonna
get out of Aaron Rodgers. We saw what he looked
like with the Jets, obviously one season having an injury. Again,
I always say we'll see flashes of Aaron Rodgers offensively.
DK Metcalf is going to be one of those. Have
to be one of those players. Him and Calvin Austin
the third, the type of receivers that elevate the quarterbacks play.
(04:09):
They have to elevate the quarterback play and always be
on ten offensively. But the Pittsburgh Steelers are now defensively
on paper, that is their identity. You know, the days
of Antonio Brown Is, Antonio Holmes and Hines Ward and
Ben Roethlisberg at the helm where they throw the ball. Yeah,
(04:30):
Leveon Bell, those days are gone. Those days are going
to their identity now and a passing lead in a
pass happy league era has now switched back to their
identity being their defense, and they're gonna have to play
like it, and they're gonna have to win using their defense.
They're gonna have to lead them.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I like the fact that they got t J. Watt done. Yeah,
I think everybody.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I think everybody's happy TJ becomes the highest played non
quarterback Steelers get the years they won't. They didn't want
to go five, they didn't want to go six years.
Want to be you know, we got this guy and
we on the hook.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
He got. He got a boatload of money.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He got one hundred and eight million of the one
twenty three fully guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah. Yeah, and I hear, hey, you know what, I
don't even want that.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That an extra fifteen I'm good, Ojo, Right, you gave
this man on a three year deal, one hundred and eight,
so you gave this man damn there eight well eighty
I don't know what that is. Eighty seven eighty eight
percent of the money guarantee, fully guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, and you know you're here in some things I
don't like. I hate hearing people say, oh, he's too old,
he's over the heel, and I'm like, I mean, dude, like,
what do we talk about it? What did we talk
about here? We talk about TJ. Watt because if it
wasn't there, he get paid exactly that maybe or somewhere else,
Like stop playing because you know what you get. You
know what you get with the product. You know, he's
(05:48):
not falling off, No, goddamn Cliff, no time soon. It's
not happening. He's not one of those type of players.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
They thought enough of him. They didn't trade him. If
you thought he was over the hill white than.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
They traded man, you know, Goodwill one letting that boy,
you know.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Exactly so you don't get, you don't get.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I mean theoretically they could o Joe, you don't get
to say I'm old, don't trade me, but then don't
want to pay me. Nah nah, one of the other
either you pay me or allowed me to go someplace.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Else to get paid. I agree.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
He's one of those guys, the Terry Bradshaw, the John
Star wars Lamb swans One, you know, Mal Blunt, Lambert,
those guys, Joe green One, Helmet Guy hines Ward. He's
Ben Roethlisberger. He's deserving of that. He's been a phenomenal player.
He's been a model citizen since he's been in Pittsburgh.
I don't have a problem with this, Like you said,
(06:39):
O Joe, he's thirty. That makes seem let to do
thirty five. He's thirty.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Wait, he only thirty?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Thirty?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Man, why ain't got me thinking t that? Listen? I
didn't look at his as they got me thinking he
was like thirty three, thirty four, thirty five or something
like that. Oh man, he good man, what man? I'm
glad I didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Because because fans listen to T teams and it seems
like thirty. That was the forty nine ers, forty nine ers,
forty nine ers, and you know brand, you know, go
way back if you look at them, they started getting
off their guys at thirty because if they look at it,
like if it's better to get rid of a guy
here as opposed to a year late, And if you
go back and look at his study, coach Belichick history,
(07:18):
he always got off guys a year early.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
He said, I'd rather be than have you rock on
the vine.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yes, in my vineyard, I'd rather you move on. I'd
rather not have to pay that. But I don't think
I think TJ. Wattson. He's been a double digit SAT guy.
Basically his entire career been a hovering He's been Defensive
Player of the Year. He's been hovering around Defensive Player
of the year year after year after year. I think
this is the right move by the Steelers. And like
you said, now you got Jalen Ramsey back there, They're
(07:46):
probably gonna kick Ram to the safety position. Now he
can cover your tight ends, he can cover the he
can play the slot. I don't know who jumps in
the slot. You can't have three guys outside. Somebody gonna
have to play the slot, either Porter, Junior, slagh a
Ram But who knows. Maybe they have a slot corner
and they leave Ram at the safety position. Who knows.
But I like this move because I think TJ. Watt
(08:08):
had earned this. He didn't deserve it because they.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Gave him this money. They didn't give him this money
based on what he's done.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
They gave him this money that they would still believe
that he could play out of the de late left.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yes, absolutely, absolutely, and then you know what you know,
Jerry Jones on the clock.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
My next question, how to this impact Michael Parsons, Because
because you waited now because you remember O Joe Crosby,
Max Crosby, he came to thirty five, he polled, vaulted
a Nick Moosa, he went to thirty five.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Miles Garrett said, hold my beer. He goes to forty.
Now TJ.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Watts at forty one. Yeah, keep doing this, Jerry. You
didn't learn your lesson with DAK, So guess what you did.
You did the same thing with CD. You didn't learn
your lesson with CD. You did the same thing with Michaeh.
Now I know you do all this talking like, oh yeah, Michael,
blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Mike can't give you no discount. Absolutely no.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Michael Parson is gonna be the highest paid and he's
gonna get more than what t. J. Watt got, fully guaranteed,
and he's earned that. He didn't deserve it, he earned it.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I just have a question for you. You might know
better than me when it comes to owners and it
comes to paying players. Why did they do this? Why
did they hold off? I mean, what is the point
in general? And Jerry, I mean, what is it? What
is it that they're doing or trying to get in
order what some type of affairs books, the money.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I mean, then we hear this thing that Pablo Tory
about the collusion thing. We're trying to keep these salaries
down load, yoe, We're trying to keep this guaranteed money
down What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
What are they doing?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Oh? Okay, okay, okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
After DeShawn Watson got that fully guaranteed contract, a lot
of people thought that was gonna be commonplace. They've tried
to suppress that, and they will continue to try to
suppress that. So hopefully, hopefully Michael keeps keeps his foot
on the gas and says, Noah, we're gonna keep this
(10:08):
thing north, heading towards the North Star forty two million.
I'm gonna need forty two and the next great defensive
edge rusher.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I don't know who that Jared Verse, J L.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Carter.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I'm going forty I'm going forty three and I'm going
and I'm gonna need whatever Michael got fully guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I'm gonna need that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I love it. I love it. Yeah. Michael seemed that
he said today that.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It's heading in the direction that it didn't need the
head you know, you you know, and he spoke about
DA's supposed to get it done, and you wait till
the last minute, and then you have to overpay DK
and you paid See you wait to CD, and then
you probably had that. You probably could have got CD
for a couple of million dollars cheaper. You damn sure
could have got that for a couple of million dollar cheaper.
But you didn't learn your lesson the first time with
Dak because you let him go all the way to
the end of the contract, and then he was hoping
(10:59):
he'd give you a deal like Jerry golf And and
Carson Wentz gave him even though.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
They were first and second pick in the draft.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
They got the big signing bonus, and they came to
him in year three, Dak Prescott says, I'm at the
end of my contract.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
These guys still got two years and.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Two franchise tags, so theoretically they got four years left.
I got NNE and you want me to give them
the same deal. You want me to give you the
same deal they gave their teams.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Thought by now he'd learned his lesson, But Jerry hasn't
learned his lesson.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, maybe maybe he's doing it on purpose because he
likes for won the attention and the big splash he
gets to make when it does when he actually does
pay the said player. Maybe he likes it this way.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Look, I mean you're paying I mean, think about it.
You're paying a quarterback. You're paying your quarterback sixty million.
That's more. That's more than all the top quarterbacks, all
the top quarterbacks that's been in the NFC champion that's
been in the championship game, that's been to a soup,
that's been to.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's been to a super Bowl. He's making more than
my homes.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
He's monkey more than Lamar, He's making more than Borough,
He's making more than Josh Allen, and people like, hold on,
wait a minute, But that's what happens when you wait
till the umpteenth hour to.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Get something done.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Michael says, the Cowboys are making it more complicated than
it has to be. We obviously want to get a
deal done early, We want the relief off our backs.
But obviously ownership always going to make make it drag out,
make it more complicated than it has to be.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Lack of communication.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I just never understand when guys come into the league,
they are consistent and they perform well, why they've got
such an urge. But then as they have just one
good year, maybe two good years, they get right away.
And now you've got TJ. Watt, you got Max Crosby,
all these other guys are getting.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Paid, and you can't want what us take.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You can't want us to take less because you wanted
to decide to wait.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I tell you gotta pay full.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Oh so they trying to play that game with you, mom.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
The longer you wait and see, that's what happened with Jerry,
the longer he waited. All of a sudden, twenty eight
million wasn't to go and rate for a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Now it's thirty two.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Now with thirty four, Okay, he got to thirty million,
the thirty plus million dollar, the forty million dollar deal.
Now all of a sudden, it wasn't forty five forty six,
it was fifty five. So now he goes to sixty
because you waited, you waited, you ate, you waited on
on Jefferson.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So guess what ceee Lamb like.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Okay, I take a dollar a million dollar less a year,
but I ain't going any more less than that.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
That right, Michael has made it a bundan of the clip.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
From the very beginning. My agent will, my representative will
be handling all negotiations. We're not I'm not coming to
your house. We're not going out to have a drink,
and I'm not signing anything.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
That's what I hired an agent for.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Would you say, I'm not coming to your house.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, I'm not coming to your house. Et no nachos
and drink no beer. We're not that type. We're not
that type of party. We're not that type of party.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
They try to try to pull you in like they're
your best friend.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yes, yes, it's business. At the end of the day,
they will always remember that.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
That's the ultimate love.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
When you in the workplace environment, the ultimate love is
is currency. You could say, oh he's a hard worker.
I love this guy here. No, no, no no. The
way you show me you love me, the way you
showed me you appreciate me to break me off with Bulah,
that's it. All that other stuff I don't. I don't
hear nothing you saying.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That ain't dressing ass.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
That's why I know it. Michael, Michael want his money.
He's he's he's earned it. I mean he's been defensive,
He's been he was defensive Rookie of the Year. Yes,
he's finished couple of second times. I think a couple
of times the defensive Player of the Year. He's always
hovering around. And even even his off year is double digits.
(14:56):
Even his off year, even last year he had a
down year. He I mean, he came home, but but
and he probably had some things going on that, you know,
he played through with their hopes and you know what,
they gonna take care of me because they know what
I got going on. They know I'm banged up, they
know I got a knee or I got something going on,
so that they're gonna take.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Care of me.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Nah, And this is this is how they do it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I thought it was a donut. You tried to glaze me.
Now give me my bread. I need all that. Hey
thought I was a what yep, thought it was a
donut that tried to glaze this man. So Michael is
probably for a four year extension. If TJ got three
for one twenty three, Miles got four for one, Yeah,
(15:41):
I'm a I'm at four for one fifty and I'm
gonna need If TJ got one got one hundred and
eight gap full of guaranteed. I'm gonna need one twenty five.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Hey, but that's that good money, that brock.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yes, yes, I want to hear that. And now you
know we we how we treat our players and all that. Yeah,
you treat your players.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Pay me m hmm. That's the only that's the only language.
That's that's the only language I speak.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Washington and Lincoln, Jefferson and Chase that's what that's grant,
that's what I speak.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I speak, that's the language I speak.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And and and Mica is going into his last year.
Yeah or no, no, we got two more.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I think I think Michael's I think Michael Ills. I
think there's a fourth head intwis Field. They picked up
his option.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okay, okay, I wonder if I wonder if they're a
player around. I wonder if they I mean knowing Jerry,
ain't no telling how they how they gonna rock if
they let him play that last one out? I man,
ain't no telling, Ain't no telling with them, un ain't
no telling.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, I mean you let you. It is only twenty six.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I mean the way we value players, what they can do,
the owners don't really value Oh he played.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
On the fifth. Oh, he played on his fifty option.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
He came in in twenty one, he came into twenty one,
twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, he's on
his fifty option.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, and they said if they hadn't picked it up,
he could have been anywhere right now. Yeah, they knew
what they were doing.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
He gonna be the highest pade. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I don't listen. I don't know what they're waiting on.
That's the part I don't understand. I mean, why do
they do Why do they do it with every player?
I mean, well they're not the only team, But I'm
just saying.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I get why they Well, you gave you gave Dak
and CD, so obviously you couldn't pay Dak. You know that,
CD that, and give Michael what he was working right now,
you don't got You got those other two guys out
of the way. You gotta take care of them. You
ain't got, I mean you got you. You don't have
anybody else coming down the pipeline. Pretty soon, you're gonna
have your big offensive lineman Smith coming down the pipeline.
(17:55):
You're gonna have you gonna have to take care of
him right. Oh my goodness, I don't don't.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't know. You know, Jerry does things his way.
He says he's the best at what he does.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
He's not.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I mean he says, he says he is, and there's
no one else that's fit, you know, to run that
team the way he does.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I go in my garage and I lay on the floor.
I'm a Mercedes. No I'm not. I'm a damn food
laid on my garage floor. It just got somebody to
say some issue. Just got somebody say some is that'll
make it true.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Hey, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah he not, You know, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Cowboys doc Trayvon Diggs five hundred thousand dollars for not
rehabbing with the team enough. Diggs is believed to be
the first Cowboys player to see his base salary lord
Because of it. The team had an option option to
not enforce the claw, but chose to is this, Uh,
oh Joe, what are we supposed to?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
What do we make it of this? Are they being
petty or what are they trying to do? They?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I wouldn't say they're being petty. It's that business we
just talked about. It's that business. And then understanding, listen,
we're paying you a certain amount, we would like you
here the rehab. We think we have the best resources,
and we would like to keep it out on the
the rehab that you are doing that make sure you're
coming along at at a rate that is sufficient, good
(19:33):
pace for us, so you're able to contribute, you know,
in season when it's time to actually play. I mean,
but listen that that's tough. That that's tough, that's that's
a that's a great area. You really don't want to
play with not knowing what a team might want to
do to you. Just you know how they treat you
when you're hurt. Now you know you know how they
treat you that they're willing to keep you around, knowing
(19:56):
how valuab we are and what you can do once
you're on the field and you are healthy, and they
give you the opportunity to get right, I think I
think I would take an advantage of that. But obviously
Trayvon Diggs, who is a veteran who has the same
resources and the same maybe maybe doctors and treatments and
stuff wherever he may be, and see fit in getting
(20:19):
healthy there. But is it worth losing the money. I mean,
but the kind of money they passing out now.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And that's something you run by the team, ojo, because
remember it's being reported. We don't know if it's true
or not. That one of the issues the Bucks had
with Dane is that he wanted to rehab in Portland.
He wanted to be close to his kid. And I
probably think we're going to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Is that.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I think he's in negotiation to re sign and go
back to Portland. That's where his kids are.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Huh, you see it.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, but I'm saying I know they was talking about it,
but I have some other stuff going on. But with
that being said, that's something you run by the team.
Is it we're gonna be required for me to be
trained to rehab here or may I be you have elsewhere?
You run that by the team because at the end
of the day, they pay it. They pay in the salary.
(21:08):
I mean they paying. They're paying you twenty twenty five
thirty million dollars. And I think you know Digg's at
one point in time was make I think he makes
twenty million dollars a year. I ain't counting the man pockets,
but I'm just saying that's something you get clearance from
the team for because like you said, oh, your five
hundred thousand you know, Hey, that ain't no, that's that's
that's the little chuck of change.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Hey, I'm I mean to them. Mm hmm, Judy, what's up?
Why we can't see your face?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Because? Oh there you go?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Okay, Hey, with no further adude, let's welcome Jerry Judy,
former number one draft pick of the Denver Broncos, a
former BLITNIKO Award winner, former uh A.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
National champion with the Alabama roll Tide. There he is, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
You were You were one of the guys that attended
the Wide Receiver workshop. Obviously it was down in your
neck of the woods, South Florida. Why was it important
for you to attend this shop?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
You know, it's always great to be able to be
around a great goop of gods, gods that at the
top of their position.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I you know, I grew up watching Chad, so you know,
it was a very special moment for me just to
be able to be out there and learn from him
and all the other guys I was out there.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
NFL ranked you number eighty two the eighty second best
player in the NFL after the twenty fourth season. You
were not even ranked prior to that. What should Cleveland
expect this year? Eighty two? So clearly you see that
in eighty two. Nah, I'm trying to get on dining now.
I'm trying to get down to the fifties. I'm trying
to get to the thirties. I'm trying to get to
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the twentieth. I'm trying to be when they talk about
the five best receivers, when they talk about the ten
best receiver, I needed them to talk about you.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah, for sure. You know that's my goal. You know
I want to be at the top of my position.
You know, I'm just keep grinding and stay focused and
continue to work on my craft and work to be
better than I was the year prior. And I'm still
chase that each and every day and every year.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Let me ask you this, I cause I'm always because
I look, when you came out in the draft, I say,
he's the best guy in the draft. And I knew
you were in the draft with Jefferson and you're in
the graft with Cede Lamb. So I'm not gonna do
high and slight and those guys are having phenomenal seasons.
Why do you think the main reason it didn't work
for you? And and and and I think I know
the reason why. But I want to hear you said.
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I want to hear you, hear what you have to say.
Why weren't you able to replicate in Denver what you're
currently doing in Cleveland?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
One?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
I think, you know, just consistency just through throughout the
whole offense, you know, and just a lot of moving
pieces and a lot of stuff that I had to
deal with when it comes to playing football, you know,
such as injuries, you know, different quarterbacks in every game,
different coaching staff, you know. So that's something that could
really affect of our receiver and his you know. But
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now that I got the opportunity to really, you know,
had a healthy season, you know, being able to be
that Nomber one receiver, be that number one option, and
be able to get put into a great position to
be able to perform the way I've done, you know.
You know, that's that's all the receiver could ask for
for real.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, I like it. I already know the type of
season you're going to have. You're gonna build off what
you did last year. And it all comes down to
being not only consistent, but when you are consistent, consistency
bring confidence and based on where you're from, you already
know what happens when we feeling confident and it's time
to play football. So I'm excited for you. I'm excited
for what you guys are going to do with Joe
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Flacco and Inchadure Gabriel people, whoever it is, whoever's it
the hell to me. Knowing what you can do at
the receiving position, you make everyone else in job around
you easy. I've said that to you and in person.
I said it to you, you know before in general.
So this season coming up, are there any goals that
you've already set long term, short term, whatever it may be,
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numbers numbers wise, you don't have to say anything specific.
I just I just want to know what goals you
had this upcoming season for you individually.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Honestly, one of my biggest goals for it is just
having a winning season.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
That's that's something that I haven't really done since entering
the entering the league, you know, never reached the playoffs.
You know, that's one of my biggest goals. So having
a winning season and be able to reach the playoffs.
That's something I'm truly working hard toils and just being
better than I was last year. You know, I had
a great season last year, finished sixth and receiving yards
and now I'm still trying to trace that number one
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spot in you know, and I ain't gonna stop till
I get there.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Like that you you mentioned, you mentioned like when you're
in Denver, there are a lot of moving parts. You know,
a lot of quarterback the quarterbacks in and out. You
had a lot of offensive you know, offense schemes. Now
it might be a similar situation. You got Joe Flacco,
who's the veteran. You got Kenny Pick. They drafted Dylan Gabriel,
drafted your door Sanders. His body stood out to you.
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It's like, okay, this this this might be my quarterback.
Then I might be starting with him. I mean anything,
have you noticed anything? Has anybody stood out to you?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You know, I feel like we got a great The
biggest thing that you know, I'm thinking thankful for just
having a h for a great quarterbacks. You know, that's
go out there and compete every day.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
That's that, you know, Hey, come on, with that man.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, I'm telling you what it is. Man. You know,
we got four great quarterbacks. Man, they all been doing
their thing for real. So you know, I'm just you know,
my job is to make it easy whoever after him.
You know, I'm just gonna get open for him and
you know, do my thing for real. I don't got
no control over that man, whoever the coaches stat choosing
whoever they picked to be the quarterback. You know, I'm
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just I'm just making sure make their job easier when
they throw me the ball.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I want to know. Yeah, I'm gonna let you go
right now. I got to sneaker this in there because
I love this young boy. I love him watching him play.
He's he's he's a technician. What is it like going
against God damn Denzel Ward. That's what I want to know.
He can play some ball man off, it don't matter
what it is. May he nasty with it?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
You know, there's a great dB. You know, he's one
of the few guys that really know how to like
be so be patient without using his hands, being front
of you without his hands. So you know, that's that's
one thing that really separated the Zell from from his
skill set. You know, a lot of guys that don't
use just don't use their hand really kind of struggles.
So he got feet, you know, great awareness when the
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balls in the air, you know, and he'll a scrapy
dude for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
You know. He a real ball ball player.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, I like I like them.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Look there, I mean obviously you mentioned that you dealt
with some injuries. You dealt with the quarterback play was
not up the part, and where you were in Denver,
you had a lot of different schemes. And Steve Smith Junior,
who's a friend of the show, you and him had
some words back and forth. Have you guys, Have you
guys been able to work out your differences behind the scene?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Honestly?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Nah, you know, man, you know, I ain't. It is
what it is, man, I ain't really too stressed about that.
It's old news, you know. You know, he's things in
the past. Man, I said some things in the past,
you know, But my goals always proved I know who
I am at the end of the day, you know,
and I you know, I proved it last year too,
So I ain't really I ain't really focused on none
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of that.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Man. That's old news to me.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
When I watch you at when I watch you at Alabama,
obviously there are a bunch of talented guys. You win
the Bolitanakop Award in your sophomore season, you win the
National Championship. I mean, I think you caught the game.
What the game went in? Touchdown? Where the game? I
think you got the lead against the SEC Championship against Georgia.
I think winning that with Jalen Hurts came in and
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threw you the ball and you made the dive and catch.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah that was what was that? That was?
Yeah twenty eighteen, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And so I'm looking at I'm looking at you a
jew and I'm like, man, technically sound can.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Run and something.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But for me sometimes I'm like, damn, Jude, you try
to do too much. Man, Just shake the man and
go on about your business. You ain't got to shake
it three times. I mean, you already made him look bad.
You ain't just go ahead this just the one time.
Just just poop on him one time and go on
about your business.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Do you do you do you have?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I mean, there's a clock that gotta go off whether
you're running an out, you're running the inn, you're running
a comeback, you're running the hook.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It don't matter. There's a clock.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
How you when you go out there, and let's say
Denzel war you had great competition in college because you
had pascertained. You had to deal with him in college,
and I'll be damn if he'd come join you in
different So you got an opportunity to work with one
of the best cornerbacks in the NFL. So Ju, when
you're going out there and somebody lines up across to
you and you have a certain route, tell me what's
going to tell Tell our listeners, uh and our viewers
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what's going through your mind?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
First?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
You know, I just gotta you know, you gotta know
to play. Know where I'm at on the field, you know. First.
Then I once I line up, you know, I look
at the safety, see see where the covers at, you know,
look at the safety. Then I look at the leverage
of the DV in front of me, depending on my route.
Then I just think about the technique of how I'm
gonna run this route, depending on if it's a slant
and the outside leverages, I'm gonna am I gonna spray
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him to attack his leverage and make him think I
want to go outside and get underneath it, or if
he's outside inside of me, if I'm gonna or I'm
gonna just quit jib and take it in. You know,
you know, just a lot of different things that just
go through my mind. You know, if that don't if
that don't work, you know, it's reaction after that. M hm.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Hey, how much freedoms you now that you've had a
great season last year? Most of the time you have
officer coordinators. They call plays or they have places to call.
They want their schemes run exactly how they how they're
drawing up on paper. How much freedom are you allowed.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
To do.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Things your way? Just a little bit? Like obviously, when
you have a certain route, you're supposed to be plus two,
do they let you achieve the split a little bit?
Just to throw the DV off? So he did know
what's coming, because most of the time it's all about
reading and understanding based on what you see in watching film,
and most of the time everybody just lines up in
the same spot. The only thing that throws things off
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is the formations are different. Do they give you a
little freedom to change your splits and play with things
a little bit now that you know the offense.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, I think that's one of the reasons I had
success in in Cleveland. Just they let me out there
and let me be free. They know that I understand
the game pretty well. They know how I know how
to beat leverages. I know what they want in the offense,
know where they want me to get to. I feel
like that would that would cause me to have success,
you know. So Coach Stefanski and the coaching staff did
a great job. Just allow me to play my game,
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you know, and just be able to win on every
route they want me to run. They know I know
how to run every rout in the rock treet. You know,
they know I could get open, so they allow me
to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's lie, That's dope.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
There used to be one time, Jude, that Alabama was
the unquestioned wide receiver. You now you got la You
said they leg claimed to that. You got Ohio State
leg claim to that. So who has the real wide
receiver for you?
Speaker 4 (32:08):
You know, I'm gonna always stay bossing and stay tuto
to my teammates, said Olabama twenty four seven. I ain't
gonna never change up. You know, it's always gonna be Alabama.
But now Ferido l S. You've been putting out some guys.
Ahi State got some great guys in the league, you know,
and guys coming up, you know, like the god Jamiah Smith.
You know, it's a lot of great talent out there
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for Shore. You know, Alabama gonna always be on top.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
What you got on, Joe, I was gonna say, I
mean it it went, It went Alabama, and Alabama had
a string on the back to back on because you know.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
They came with Julio and they came with they came
to Calvin Ridley, and then they got you, and they
got Rugs, and they got Waddle and they got Davonte Smith.
So they had a run and then Lsu they came back.
He come, he come, Jeda and Helcume Chase and Helcume
Elik neighbors and here come Brian Thomas Jr. And Ohio
State said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa? What about Barren Harrison?
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What about Jackson the jig book? What about Gary Wilson?
What about the guy in New Orleans? I forget his name?
What's his name?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Chris Christal Lobby? Hey, they they whoa, whoa, whoa, We
got hey, we ain't. We gotta raise our head too.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Now, the funny thing about it is is Ohio State
might take that torch back once Jeremiah Smith come out
in two years.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Now, he got one more year. He got this one
the next year.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, I said, two more years.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah yeah, this one the next year. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Okay, yeah that boy.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I mean cole Real Florida boy, that was cold.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeh ask you why Alabama? I mean you got Miami,
you got Florida, I mean they're there. I mean you
got U Florida State, I mean l s U, I
mean Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
What made you decide to choose Alabama? One reason was,
you know, I truly didn't want to stay home. You know,
I've been home like that home his home. I just
wanted to experience something, something different, you know, Alabama. I
never expected Alabama. You know, Alabama was just a team
that just like it was just in my heart. Alabama
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was the right spot for me.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
And I grew up watching Amora Cooper. You know, I
play We Got About Coop.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah cool.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I grew up watching Tomorrow Cooper, you know, And I
play with Calm Ridley and I see all the hallworking
great things they did up there at Alabama, you know,
and I felt like I could do the same thing
once I get up there, So you know, thank god
I chose Alabama for real.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, do you guys get an opportunity to go back
because you see, like in basketball, you see the duke players,
they go back and they work.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
They go back to Duke and they work. Do Alabama
do the receiver?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Did you all get a chance to go back down
to Alabama and and help Because I was talking to
Ozzie knew someone who was a great wide receiver turned
into a great tight end, went to the Hall of
Famer and now he's the Hall of Fame exec. He said,
their job, He said, what we tell the guys, each
one teach one. So if you leave, you come back
and you got to tell them, Hey, this is what
we expect, this is how we do things. This is
how we continue the great play at the exposition. If
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you you guys do something like that in Alabama, would you?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Honestly, I haven't been back to Alabama since like my
rookie year, you know, and you know it's different now.
The love the whole coaches have thing, coaching staff. I'm
done changed you know, so it's different different coaches. I
do need to go back out there, you know, and
just you know, say some things. But you know, I
never had a chance to really go back out there.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I like you, man, Thank you, hold on you much.
How many How long y'all got before y'all go to camp?
You got about another week or two weeks?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Yeah, we were back on the twenty second. Man, We're
right back to it. Man, I'm ready for the grind.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Oh you got it.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
You got a few days? Okay, okay, okay, okay, Yeah,
it won't be long.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
It won't be long.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Jude, Thanks man, Thank you for joining us man continued success.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Glad you're healthy. Man.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Hey, I'm glad you got somewhere because, like I said,
I was very high you when you came out. I
thought you were phenomenal. The way you could beat man coverage,
the way you set routes up. Uh, you run a
route with anticipation, like I still got something in my
back pocket in case I needed.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
A later day and time. And uh, but I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I wish you wish we could have had stability at
the quarterback position, which we could have had stability at
the head coaching position, and you're doing what you're doing
in Cleveland. You could have done that for the Broncos.
But hey, I'm happy to see you doing well. I'm
happy to see see you achieve what I always knew
you had in you.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Thank you, man, I APPI that for real.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
You have a good see a tel Denzel Ward Man,
he don't want no smoke with me either. Man, even
that that's whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
You still got it. I've seen that cat.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
You still got a little son.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
You know I was a TV back in my days now,
So don't don't don't let me get.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Don't do it to yourself. Let me get next next year,
next year, put your put your put your shoes on, then.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Back out there.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
That shit. I'm gonna see.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
You a bet.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Congratulations man.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Continued success, and after that season, you come back and
you lead the league in reception of receiving yards. Come
back and holler us again on nightcap for sure, we'll
do all right. Appreciate it, bro all right. Jerry Judy
made his very first Pro Bowl last year. Guys, he
was sixty receiving yards, had his breakout season. The guys,
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he said, the thing that contributed that he got consistent
quarterback play and he was able to do some big
things because I thought he was phenomenal coming out of
the University of Alabama. And so it's always great to
see guys be able to transition, to take what they've
been able to do in college and then transition and
carry that over into.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
The NFL O Show.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
So it was glad to see him start to live
up to the potential and the ability that we knew
he possessed, and now he's getting an opportunity to shine
in Cleveland. Well, we got someone joining us earlier tonight, Ocho.
We got Jimmy Horn Junior, who was the wide receiver
out of the University of Colorado. Had had hey half speed.
We could see like when he gets the ball in
his hands. Hey, good luck trying to get him on
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the ground. Jimmy, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Man.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yes, a fella, Jimmy was up. Where were you at?
Speaker 5 (38:07):
I'm here Carolina now?
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Soh y'all getting ready to go to camp? What tomorrow? Nah?
We start back up Monday, starting to make money.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Okay, Look the word on the street, there's like one
of the most impressive young guys in camp is Jimmy
Horn Jr. Why have you why and how have you
been able to have such great success that you're a
six round draft pick and you know they got to
have the first They took a receiver McMillan.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
They took him in the first round. They have Xavier Leggett.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Uh, they got what's the guy uh Ocho from uh
from Minnesota, Adam Feeling, They got feeling. How have you
been able to make a name for yourself so so
so quick?
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Jimmy, Man, it's really like a mentality thing, like I
just come out of there, like I know personally that
don't really that so a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
I don't like that.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
I just go out there with a confidence you feel
me in and I really just learned from the guys
that headed, you know, just picking the game and just
coming out there band myself, you know, and then every
day I just come to practice hard. You feel me
like part of the game.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I know that because in the program that you was in,
lad did you land for a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Coach Prime he a worker.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
He believes in working hard, but he also believed in
still in confidence in his players, and you round him,
it's hard not to be confident. And it seems to
me if listening to you talk, You're like, I'm him. Yeah,
I know they took me in the sixth round, but
y'all gon see why they should have took me higher?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
The funny thing about it for those that are in
the chat that are watching, if you know football, if
you understand the game, especially to receive a position, you
already know Jimmy Hornk was not a sixth round type
of player. Now we talk about a round one, a
round two based on his skill setting, his ability to
run rouns, create separation, and what he can do once
he got the ball in his hands. But listen, this
is a good thing. If they took you in the
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sixth round, that mean you get to get to the
bag even faster. Though, you get to get to the
bag even faster, so you know, don't trip. I just
want to know is how has the transition been. What
is the difference between being at Colorado and now being
a Carolina Panther? I mean, what has been?
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I want to say the most difficult thing to learn
so far.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Really has been that playboy man. It's been that playboff
for sure. It's really like, yeah, the way coach prior
ran the program, he was already kind of similar to
like how they run it in the NFL. So it's
similar in that way as the schemes and stuff like
being ran, but the players the terminology is like learning
the whole other language that.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
You are all that burbage.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah too much, you know, if you got to be
on it because the ain't no, ain't no pick up
because we put we install it.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
We installed one day.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Guess what we got a hole set of plays the
next day, if we got a hole set of plays
the next day, if we got a hoole set of places.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
So if you fall.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Behind, dead fly, get crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Telly, you said something about I heard you say something earlier.
You say like Coach Prime kind of ran a lot
of this how so, so help us understand how his
coach Prime, because Coach Prime come you know even though
he came with a with a pro background.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
You look at a lot of his coaches, they were
pro coaches.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
And so how has that helped transitioning what you mentioned
transition as fast as you've been able to do. How
Coach Prime coaching style, his system, his discipline, everything about
it because it's a pro style. Because he's gotten getting
guys that are good enough.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
To get to the next level. He's getting them prepared for.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
That, right, I said, It's really like the biggest kid
is really like doing the little things right, you know
what I'm saying. That's from going to class, making sure
he agrees, right, you know what I'm saying, showing up
the practice over time, making sure your sought a certain left.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Like a little small things and once you get them
down pat it made transitioning easier.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
They have to Carolina draft to McMillan, number one draft
pick out of the University of Arizona.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
What's it like, Xavier Leggat. I mean we mentioned Adam Feeling.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Now you and and because of the buzz that you
created for yourself, you know, they gonna they gonna want
to see what you They want to see what you
got come a preseason, so you're gonna probably get you
gonna probably get a lot of burn.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Are you excited? They're like, man, I.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Mean, it's kind of it's like I'm in the NFL.
But if you really get your NFL moment until you
going against other guys and you see them, you got
your Carolina helmet on and they got their team's helmet
on and you're like, man, I'm really in the NFL. Okay,
it's still football. Let me let me go show up.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
What a y'all see, I ain't get that feeling yet,
Like right now, I'm at the more like I ain't
satisfied with like way on, Matt, you feel me. I
just like I'm real excited to get out there, you
know what I'm saying, Like especially miss missing the uh
the live train to camp. I'm just ready to get
back out there and just showing what I could really do.
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You know what I'm saying. I got so much potential
left for my game. I ain't at least all love yet.
So that's what I'm That's what I'm most excited to show.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, So what's what's the difference between an NFL wide
receiver room and a collegiate receiver room?
Speaker 5 (43:21):
The depth, the dell, it's the dealth.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
They ain't taking all them guys out there on that
bus like you gotta you gotta find a way out
that you gotta find a way, right.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
But it seems like it seemed like early on, Jimmy,
you did the next little job, because after like the
first day of camp the most impressive rookie with Jimmy
Horn Jr. And from that point on. I don't know
how much of the paper you read. I don't know
how much you watch again on social media, But did
you hear the buzz that you had created for yourself?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah? I seen it.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Man.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
Everything on scroller through tips just keep saying different pluts
and stuff for me. But like you, I try not
to try not let that stuff get to me. You
know what I'm saying. I ain't playing no real game, y'all.
I feel like I ain't doing nothing yet.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
You listen the way you look in practice, the way
you practice, the way you practice, and what people see
in practice, it's gonna be the same exact thing on game.
They listen. I ain't trying to toot your home because
you're here, because I said the same thing when I
seen you that goddamn in Colorado. When you can run
routes when you already polish. The funny thing is, this
is why they was raving by them when they got
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to Carolina. Is because he's already polished as a receiver.
So he coming in and he coming from Colorado, so
they expect him to look a certain way and then
with goddamn, why is he popping out looking different from
everybody else? I mean that that's neither hear, no, they are.
But like you said, you ain't at least what you
want to yet. Obviously you missed the previous training camp
(44:51):
on Yeah, yeah, but you got the man. You're gonna
be straight. Man, You're gonna be straight. I seen it.
I know what it's supposed to look like. And you
just play that already. All you got to do now
with the lights on, just do what you normally do.
It ain't no different.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Well, you have an outstate, your quarterback with the number
one overall draft pick two years ago. This would be
his third year. You know, things didn't go as well
as he had hope, but he got his rhythm. He
got an opportunity to sit and watch. What's it been
like working with Bryce Young?
Speaker 5 (45:22):
And it's been a pleasure to work with Bryce. You
like picking Bryce's brain? Bryce smart man, and like Bryce's
real smart and like he know the game he can
break it down to you. And Bryce he really accurate too, man,
He's nice, real nice.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Your former teammate.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
The world watched you win the sixth round, but your
teammates should do it. Your quarterback had a phenomenal season,
had phenomenal two seasons at the University of Colorado. But
you watched him slide because the first round and then
you see the second round, and then you see the
third round, and do you see the fourth round in
the fifth round. At any point in time when he's
going through that process, do you reach out? Did you
(45:59):
send him text like hey, bro, keep your head up?
Anything like that.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Oh, not that I remember, but like when I was
watching it with more peoples and stuff, we just sitting
there watching it like dang, dang, that's all he was saying, Dan,
that's all crazy. But it's all right. Do you know
everything you have for a reason, God got playing with
each person?
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Well.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Today ESPN released their corner rankings, voted on by coaching,
scouts and executives. Number one rated cornerback with Pat Sir
Tanda second, number two, Darryl Stingley Jr. Number three, Denzel
Ward number four, Trent McDuffie number five, Sauce Gardener number six,
Christian Gonzalez, uh J C.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
J C.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Horn, Jalen Johnson, quin Yon, Mitchell, Devon Witherspoon. Of those names,
which one you sided and say, hey, come on, get
this work. Yeah, talk that shit all because you are
you one of them. In your teammate j C is
(47:09):
on the list, he's number seven, So you're gonna get
some great work every.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Day, practice every ded.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
That what Connor worry every day?
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Man?
Speaker 5 (47:16):
That what Conor worry every day?
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (47:19):
That that'd be fun.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
I wish I had your schedule.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Pull up a schedule to see how many of these
guys on the list that you're gonna actually go again?
Now those are the ten best that just don't think
just because you don't see somebody name up there, don't
make the mistake that I made. I made the mistake
of you know, I underestimated someone right, and when I
left the game, I had three kedulees for fourteen yards.
I said, I never made that mistake again, Oh, Joe,
(47:45):
I said, I never make that mistake again. So yay, Look,
you respect everyone, you underestimate no one, and you will
be just fine because every if you're in this league,
everybody in this league can make everybody else in this
league look bad as.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
What what are you expecting? What are you hoping for
your rookie year? What's the What what would Jimmy Horn Jr.
Equate to a successful rookie campaign for.
Speaker 5 (48:16):
My rookie year. I got it in my notes right
here off and the real my tam.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
That's what I want to hear, come on with it.
Speaker 5 (48:23):
Like so like for my own field goals, like when
I catch my first NFL pass, I want to stat
from there and get a minimum of two hundred and
fifty yards. You know what I'm saying. But just to
start off zero draws and then prefet the rock tree. Okay,
and uh school my first NFL test now and make
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sure make shaw I'm in an adult with the rotation.
And then for the return goals, lot mo role land
as a punt return or kid return one mm hm,
take at least one return to the crib and then
I'm trying to be at least top five for average
for return average and no fund was on the return.
(49:08):
And then for like mentioning, I just want to be
prepared for whatever come all week.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Already got some goals down. Uh you go get Christian
Gunzales is on your schedule. Saut Gardner is on your schedule.
The Barn Witherspoon is on your schedule.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
I need that.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
So a couple of the guys that's on that list,
you get an opportunity to see them this year hopefully.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
As matter of fact, and you want to do them.
You want to do them a real solid you know,
as a as a I'm here before the week before
you play each one, right, Jimmy shipping boys a signed jersey,
U to the stadium and address it to them. Make
sure you sign that bitch, no more sign yeah, sign
(49:52):
it in like ahead of the game. I'm a look
gift okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
You got a nice litt You got a nice little thing.
But I like that. I like you are you already
got your thing down?
Speaker 3 (50:04):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
I didn't write no lists down until I got it
a camp. I like, hell, my number one thing would
make the team. Let's start with that. All the all
these goals they tell me, Hey, man, I got my goal,
sitt now, my goal is to.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Make the team.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
I got another stuff. I'll write out of the other
stuff down a little later later.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
They died.
Speaker 5 (50:19):
That's for sure. Number one on my list made that
for sure.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
That's sure, well, Jimmy, thanks for joining us, man, Congratulations
are great. Ostellar College career getting an opportunity to go
play in the NFL. Now your journey, hey, them in
going to the NFL, your journey starts all over again.
So good luck, stay healthy and when you get an
opportunity to come back and talk to your favorite uncile
and o jo.
Speaker 5 (50:44):
Hey man, my last thing. Now let me go in
and get up off there for I get it.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Cut out what you want? What you want to say? Hey,
y'all saying we're all on hell?
Speaker 2 (50:57):
Man, word got many people, We got the chat we
got back back about nine thousand.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
Yeah, we got about nine ten thousand of the chat.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
Andy, whe y'all think is the perfect time to get
you a lady in the league.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Man, No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Let me ask you a question. Did you have her
before you got to the league? Couple of couple?
Speaker 3 (51:19):
Love to deck? Becuse you gotta left it. You gotta
let what go.
Speaker 5 (51:24):
Shoot one on the processing elimination.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Hey no, don't, don't even do it. Don't even do it.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, don't, don't don't do it.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Don't do it. Hey, you know what we're gonna get
your talk to you off here?
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Hey, yeah, don't don't don't do it.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
We're talking you offline. I knew that.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Don't do it.
Speaker 5 (51:47):
Literally, I just I just threw that out that a message,
A real quick.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, I listen. It's always a little truth to it,
you know, every time I feel I know you're going
with it. But yeah, lock in, don't don't do it.
Have your fun. Nothing serious. This comes first, your girl,
your lady is that panther and everything that comes with
it and everything that come with it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
So Jimmy, congratulations man, getting drafted, going to the Carolina Panthers.
Best of luck this season, stay healthy and come back
and talk to it soon.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
All right for sure? All right man, Jimmy, Yes, Sir,
Jimmy Horn Jr. Carolina Panther former. See you, Buffalo. Thank
you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm
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He was in Mini caamp. Let's see if he can
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Speaker 3 (54:06):
We'll see you on Sunday.
Twenty four hours after reaching a long term contract extension
with Garrett Wilson, the Jets rewarded Sauce Gardner with a
record setting contract four years, one hundred and twenty point
four million dollars extension eighty five point sixty five three
million guaranteed. The two time All Pro becomes the NFL's
highest paid cornerback based on average salary per year at
(00:21):
thirty point one Milo.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
What helse if saust just got paid Certain and got
paid Jacy Horner got paid Ramsey, Ramsey Stingley, Well, damn
who next?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Broncos may pass Certain the highest paid cornerback, cornerback U
twenty four million now less than a basically a year later,
the defensive player of the year, he's already dropped the field.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You know what they gonna have to come? You know
what the Bronco's gonna do with that? You know what
that You know what they gonna do, right, Certain is
going to place someth so well, so I guarantee you
management goes back and redoes it again. I guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Because you got to realize, Oh, Joe, he's still like
he's still got two years left on the contract.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh yeah, Yeah, they had a couple.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Of years so they.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, it's almost it's almost criminal. It's almost criminal.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Though.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm not trying to be funny. I'm not trying to
be funny, but it will almost be criminal for him
to be ranked fifth when it comes to play when
it's when when, yeah, it comes.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That's not knock on any of these guys, because I
think they're good.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
They're good, But I think for.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Me, yeah, I got listen. I knew, I already watched it.
It's one thing for us to talk about him. It's
one thing to watch it on TV to see what
he does on ESPN, But they have all the fellows
out here to actually play the position and have to
deal with him every day, and those that actually had
to play against him to sit there and hover have
a thirty forty minute conversation on how to beat this motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He's good for sure, for sure? You know.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So sometimes you know, media hypes people up on and
then you see him in person, you be like, what
the this.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Is your dad?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
He comes from a background where they worked oh show.
You know you go to Alabama, you know Nick Sable,
You're gonna work Nick Sable.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Now, Hey, everything he's advertised to be.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
He is that, he's for, he's for he's for sure
that We've got Jerry Judy joining us tonight. We also
have Jimmy Horn Jr. Joining us tonight. But first the
news of the day. TJ. Watt agrees to a three
year extension worth one hundred twenty.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Three million dollars.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
He becomes the highest non paid quarterback in NFL history.
One hundred and eight million of that is fully guaranteed.
The four time All Pro edge rusher in twenty twenty
one Defensive Player of the Year tied at NFL record
with twenty two and a half sacks. At forty one
million per year, Watt deal sneaks past Miles Garrett consitting
deal four years at one hundred and sixty million dollars
(03:05):
agreed upon in March. Watt also leaps Fogg's Jamar Chase
forty point three million dollar deal for the highest non
paid quarterback in NFL history. Now there are no more
lingering issues. You know, cam Heywood had his thing last year.
He's in camp. He was standing on business. He's in camp.
(03:25):
They signed they signed Aaron Rodgers in free agency. They
traded for Jalen Ramsey. They signed Darius Slay in free agency.
They signed DK metcalfin free agency Pittsburgh out of excuses. Yeah, absolutely,
What can we expect from the Steelers this year?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Now?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I don't know what I'm gonna expect from the Steelers offensively.
I don't know because I don't know what we're gonna
get out of Aaron Rodgers. We saw what he looked
like with the Jets, obviously one season having an injury. Again,
I always say we'll see flashes of Aaron Rodgers offensively.
DK Metcalf is going to be one of those. Have
to be one of those players. Him and Calvin Austin
the third, the type of receivers that elevate the quarterbacks play.
(04:09):
They have to elevate the quarterback play and always be
on ten offensively. But the Pittsburgh Steelers are now defensively
on paper, that is their identity. You know, the days
of Antonio Brown Is, Antonio Holmes and Hines Ward and
Ben Roethlisberg at the helm where they throw the ball. Yeah,
(04:30):
Leveon Bell, those days are gone. Those days are going
to their identity now and a passing lead in a
pass happy league era has now switched back to their
identity being their defense, and they're gonna have to play
like it, and they're gonna have to win using their defense.
They're gonna have to lead them.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I like the fact that they got t J. Watt done. Yeah,
I think everybody.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I think everybody's happy TJ becomes the highest played non
quarterback Steelers get the years they won't. They didn't want
to go five, they didn't want to go six years.
Want to be you know, we got this guy and
we on the hook.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
He got. He got a boatload of money.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He got one hundred and eight million of the one
twenty three fully guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah. Yeah, and I hear, hey, you know what, I
don't even want that.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That an extra fifteen I'm good, Ojo, Right, you gave
this man on a three year deal, one hundred and eight,
so you gave this man damn there eight well eighty
I don't know what that is. Eighty seven eighty eight
percent of the money guarantee, fully guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, and you know you're here in some things I
don't like. I hate hearing people say, oh, he's too old,
he's over the heel, and I'm like, I mean, dude, like,
what do we talk about it? What did we talk
about here? We talk about TJ. Watt because if it
wasn't there, he get paid exactly that maybe or somewhere else,
Like stop playing because you know what you get. You
know what you get with the product. You know, he's
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not falling off, No, goddamn Cliff, no time soon. It's
not happening. He's not one of those type of players.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
They thought enough of him. They didn't trade him. If
you thought he was over the hill white than.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
They traded man, you know, Goodwill one letting that boy,
you know.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Exactly so you don't get, you don't get.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I mean theoretically they could o Joe, you don't get
to say I'm old, don't trade me, but then don't
want to pay me. Nah nah, one of the other
either you pay me or allowed me to go someplace.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Else to get paid. I agree.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
He's one of those guys, the Terry Bradshaw, the John
Star wars Lamb swans One, you know, Mal Blunt, Lambert,
those guys, Joe green One, Helmet Guy hines Ward. He's
Ben Roethlisberger. He's deserving of that. He's been a phenomenal player.
He's been a model citizen since he's been in Pittsburgh.
I don't have a problem with this, Like you said,
(06:39):
O Joe, he's thirty. That makes seem let to do
thirty five. He's thirty.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Wait, he only thirty?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Thirty?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Man, why ain't got me thinking t that? Listen? I
didn't look at his as they got me thinking he
was like thirty three, thirty four, thirty five or something
like that. Oh man, he good man, what man? I'm
glad I didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Because because fans listen to T teams and it seems
like thirty. That was the forty nine ers, forty nine ers,
forty nine ers, and you know brand, you know, go
way back if you look at them, they started getting
off their guys at thirty because if they look at it,
like if it's better to get rid of a guy
here as opposed to a year late, And if you
go back and look at his study, coach Belichick history,
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he always got off guys a year early.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
He said, I'd rather be than have you rock on
the vine.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yes, in my vineyard, I'd rather you move on. I'd
rather not have to pay that. But I don't think
I think TJ. Wattson. He's been a double digit SAT guy.
Basically his entire career been a hovering He's been Defensive
Player of the Year. He's been hovering around Defensive Player
of the year year after year after year. I think
this is the right move by the Steelers. And like
you said, now you got Jalen Ramsey back there, They're
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probably gonna kick Ram to the safety position. Now he
can cover your tight ends, he can cover the he
can play the slot. I don't know who jumps in
the slot. You can't have three guys outside. Somebody gonna
have to play the slot, either Porter, Junior, slagh a
Ram But who knows. Maybe they have a slot corner
and they leave Ram at the safety position. Who knows.
But I like this move because I think TJ. Watt
(08:08):
had earned this. He didn't deserve it because they.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Gave him this money. They didn't give him this money
based on what he's done.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
They gave him this money that they would still believe
that he could play out of the de late left.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yes, absolutely, absolutely, and then you know what you know,
Jerry Jones on the clock.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
My next question, how to this impact Michael Parsons, Because
because you waited now because you remember O Joe Crosby,
Max Crosby, he came to thirty five, he polled, vaulted
a Nick Moosa, he went to thirty five.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Miles Garrett said, hold my beer. He goes to forty.
Now TJ.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Watts at forty one. Yeah, keep doing this, Jerry. You
didn't learn your lesson with DAK, So guess what you did.
You did the same thing with CD. You didn't learn
your lesson with CD. You did the same thing with Michaeh.
Now I know you do all this talking like, oh yeah, Michael,
blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Mike can't give you no discount. Absolutely no.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Michael Parson is gonna be the highest paid and he's
gonna get more than what t. J. Watt got, fully guaranteed,
and he's earned that. He didn't deserve it, he earned it.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I just have a question for you. You might know
better than me when it comes to owners and it
comes to paying players. Why did they do this? Why
did they hold off? I mean, what is the point
in general? And Jerry, I mean, what is it? What
is it that they're doing or trying to get in
order what some type of affairs books, the money.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I mean, then we hear this thing that Pablo Tory
about the collusion thing. We're trying to keep these salaries
down load, yoe, We're trying to keep this guaranteed money
down What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
What are they doing?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Oh? Okay, okay, okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
After DeShawn Watson got that fully guaranteed contract, a lot
of people thought that was gonna be commonplace. They've tried
to suppress that, and they will continue to try to
suppress that. So hopefully, hopefully Michael keeps keeps his foot
on the gas and says, Noah, we're gonna keep this
(10:08):
thing north, heading towards the North Star forty two million.
I'm gonna need forty two and the next great defensive
edge rusher.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I don't know who that Jared Verse, J L.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Carter.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I'm going forty I'm going forty three and I'm going
and I'm gonna need whatever Michael got fully guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I'm gonna need that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I love it. I love it. Yeah. Michael seemed that
he said today that.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It's heading in the direction that it didn't need the
head you know, you you know, and he spoke about
DA's supposed to get it done, and you wait till
the last minute, and then you have to overpay DK
and you paid See you wait to CD, and then
you probably had that. You probably could have got CD
for a couple of million dollars cheaper. You damn sure
could have got that for a couple of million dollar cheaper.
But you didn't learn your lesson the first time with
Dak because you let him go all the way to
the end of the contract, and then he was hoping
(10:59):
he'd give you a deal like Jerry golf And and
Carson Wentz gave him even though.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
They were first and second pick in the draft.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
They got the big signing bonus, and they came to
him in year three, Dak Prescott says, I'm at the
end of my contract.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
These guys still got two years and.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Two franchise tags, so theoretically they got four years left.
I got NNE and you want me to give them
the same deal. You want me to give you the
same deal they gave their teams.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Thought by now he'd learned his lesson, But Jerry hasn't
learned his lesson.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, maybe maybe he's doing it on purpose because he
likes for won the attention and the big splash he
gets to make when it does when he actually does
pay the said player. Maybe he likes it this way.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Look, I mean you're paying I mean, think about it.
You're paying a quarterback. You're paying your quarterback sixty million.
That's more. That's more than all the top quarterbacks, all
the top quarterbacks that's been in the NFC champion that's
been in the championship game, that's been to a soup,
that's been to.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's been to a super Bowl. He's making more than
my homes.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
He's monkey more than Lamar, He's making more than Borough,
He's making more than Josh Allen, and people like, hold on,
wait a minute, But that's what happens when you wait
till the umpteenth hour to.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Get something done.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Michael says, the Cowboys are making it more complicated than
it has to be. We obviously want to get a
deal done early, We want the relief off our backs.
But obviously ownership always going to make make it drag out,
make it more complicated than it has to be.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Lack of communication.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I just never understand when guys come into the league,
they are consistent and they perform well, why they've got
such an urge. But then as they have just one
good year, maybe two good years, they get right away.
And now you've got TJ. Watt, you got Max Crosby,
all these other guys are getting.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Paid, and you can't want what us take.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You can't want us to take less because you wanted
to decide to wait.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I tell you gotta pay full.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Oh so they trying to play that game with you, mom.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
The longer you wait and see, that's what happened with Jerry,
the longer he waited. All of a sudden, twenty eight
million wasn't to go and rate for a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Now it's thirty two.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Now with thirty four, Okay, he got to thirty million,
the thirty plus million dollar, the forty million dollar deal.
Now all of a sudden, it wasn't forty five forty six,
it was fifty five. So now he goes to sixty
because you waited, you waited, you ate, you waited on
on Jefferson.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So guess what ceee Lamb like.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Okay, I take a dollar a million dollar less a year,
but I ain't going any more less than that.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
That right, Michael has made it a bundan of the clip.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
From the very beginning. My agent will, my representative will
be handling all negotiations. We're not I'm not coming to
your house. We're not going out to have a drink,
and I'm not signing anything.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
That's what I hired an agent for.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Would you say, I'm not coming to your house.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, I'm not coming to your house. Et no nachos
and drink no beer. We're not that type. We're not
that type of party. We're not that type of party.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
They try to try to pull you in like they're
your best friend.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yes, yes, it's business. At the end of the day,
they will always remember that.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
That's the ultimate love.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
When you in the workplace environment, the ultimate love is
is currency. You could say, oh he's a hard worker.
I love this guy here. No, no, no no. The
way you show me you love me, the way you
showed me you appreciate me to break me off with Bulah,
that's it. All that other stuff I don't. I don't
hear nothing you saying.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That ain't dressing ass.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
That's why I know it. Michael, Michael want his money.
He's he's he's earned it. I mean he's been defensive,
He's been he was defensive Rookie of the Year. Yes,
he's finished couple of second times. I think a couple
of times the defensive Player of the Year. He's always
hovering around. And even even his off year is double digits.
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Even his off year, even last year he had a
down year. He I mean, he came home, but but
and he probably had some things going on that, you know,
he played through with their hopes and you know what,
they gonna take care of me because they know what
I got going on. They know I'm banged up, they
know I got a knee or I got something going on,
so that they're gonna take.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Care of me.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Nah, And this is this is how they do it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I thought it was a donut. You tried to glaze me.
Now give me my bread. I need all that. Hey
thought I was a what yep, thought it was a
donut that tried to glaze this man. So Michael is
probably for a four year extension. If TJ got three
for one twenty three, Miles got four for one, Yeah,
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I'm a I'm at four for one fifty and I'm
gonna need If TJ got one got one hundred and
eight gap full of guaranteed. I'm gonna need one twenty five.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Hey, but that's that good money, that brock.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yes, yes, I want to hear that. And now you
know we we how we treat our players and all that. Yeah,
you treat your players.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Pay me m hmm. That's the only that's the only language.
That's that's the only language I speak.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Washington and Lincoln, Jefferson and Chase that's what that's grant,
that's what I speak.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I speak, that's the language I speak.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And and and Mica is going into his last year.
Yeah or no, no, we got two more.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I think I think Michael's I think Michael Ills. I
think there's a fourth head intwis Field. They picked up
his option.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okay, okay, I wonder if I wonder if they're a
player around. I wonder if they I mean knowing Jerry,
ain't no telling how they how they gonna rock if
they let him play that last one out? I man,
ain't no telling, Ain't no telling with them, un ain't
no telling.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, I mean you let you. It is only twenty six.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I mean the way we value players, what they can do,
the owners don't really value Oh he played.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
On the fifth. Oh, he played on his fifty option.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
He came in in twenty one, he came into twenty one,
twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, he's on
his fifty option.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, and they said if they hadn't picked it up,
he could have been anywhere right now. Yeah, they knew
what they were doing.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
He gonna be the highest pade. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I don't listen. I don't know what they're waiting on.
That's the part I don't understand. I mean, why do
they do Why do they do it with every player?
I mean, well they're not the only team, But I'm
just saying.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I get why they Well, you gave you gave Dak
and CD, so obviously you couldn't pay Dak. You know that,
CD that, and give Michael what he was working right now,
you don't got You got those other two guys out
of the way. You gotta take care of them. You
ain't got, I mean you got you. You don't have
anybody else coming down the pipeline. Pretty soon, you're gonna
have your big offensive lineman Smith coming down the pipeline.
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You're gonna have you gonna have to take care of
him right. Oh my goodness, I don't don't.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't know. You know, Jerry does things his way.
He says he's the best at what he does.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
He's not.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I mean he says, he says he is, and there's
no one else that's fit, you know, to run that
team the way he does.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I go in my garage and I lay on the floor.
I'm a Mercedes. No I'm not. I'm a damn food
laid on my garage floor. It just got somebody to
say some issue. Just got somebody say some is that'll
make it true.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Hey, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah he not, You know, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Cowboys doc Trayvon Diggs five hundred thousand dollars for not
rehabbing with the team enough. Diggs is believed to be
the first Cowboys player to see his base salary lord
Because of it. The team had an option option to
not enforce the claw, but chose to is this, Uh,
oh Joe, what are we supposed to?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
What do we make it of this? Are they being
petty or what are they trying to do? They?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I wouldn't say they're being petty. It's that business we
just talked about. It's that business. And then understanding, listen,
we're paying you a certain amount, we would like you
here the rehab. We think we have the best resources,
and we would like to keep it out on the
the rehab that you are doing that make sure you're
coming along at at a rate that is sufficient, good
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pace for us, so you're able to contribute, you know,
in season when it's time to actually play. I mean,
but listen that that's tough. That that's tough, that's that's
a that's a great area. You really don't want to
play with not knowing what a team might want to
do to you. Just you know how they treat you
when you're hurt. Now you know you know how they
treat you that they're willing to keep you around, knowing
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how valuab we are and what you can do once
you're on the field and you are healthy, and they
give you the opportunity to get right, I think I
think I would take an advantage of that. But obviously
Trayvon Diggs, who is a veteran who has the same
resources and the same maybe maybe doctors and treatments and
stuff wherever he may be, and see fit in getting
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healthy there. But is it worth losing the money. I mean,
but the kind of money they passing out now.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And that's something you run by the team, ojo, because
remember it's being reported. We don't know if it's true
or not. That one of the issues the Bucks had
with Dane is that he wanted to rehab in Portland.
He wanted to be close to his kid. And I
probably think we're going to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Is that.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I think he's in negotiation to re sign and go
back to Portland. That's where his kids are.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Huh, you see it.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, but I'm saying I know they was talking about it,
but I have some other stuff going on. But with
that being said, that's something you run by the team.
Is it we're gonna be required for me to be
trained to rehab here or may I be you have elsewhere?
You run that by the team because at the end
of the day, they pay it. They pay in the salary.
(21:08):
I mean they paying. They're paying you twenty twenty five
thirty million dollars. And I think you know Digg's at
one point in time was make I think he makes
twenty million dollars a year. I ain't counting the man pockets,
but I'm just saying that's something you get clearance from
the team for because like you said, oh, your five
hundred thousand you know, Hey, that ain't no, that's that's
that's the little chuck of change.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Hey, I'm I mean to them. Mm hmm, Judy, what's up?
Why we can't see your face?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Because? Oh there you go?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Okay, Hey, with no further adude, let's welcome Jerry Judy,
former number one draft pick of the Denver Broncos, a
former BLITNIKO Award winner, former uh A.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
National champion with the Alabama roll Tide. There he is, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
You were You were one of the guys that attended
the Wide Receiver workshop. Obviously it was down in your
neck of the woods, South Florida. Why was it important
for you to attend this shop?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
You know, it's always great to be able to be
around a great goop of gods, gods that at the
top of their position.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I you know, I grew up watching Chad, so you know,
it was a very special moment for me just to
be able to be out there and learn from him
and all the other guys I was out there.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
NFL ranked you number eighty two the eighty second best
player in the NFL after the twenty fourth season. You
were not even ranked prior to that. What should Cleveland
expect this year? Eighty two? So clearly you see that
in eighty two. Nah, I'm trying to get on dining now.
I'm trying to get down to the fifties. I'm trying
to get to the thirties. I'm trying to get to
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the twentieth. I'm trying to be when they talk about
the five best receivers, when they talk about the ten
best receiver, I needed them to talk about you.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah, for sure. You know that's my goal. You know
I want to be at the top of my position.
You know, I'm just keep grinding and stay focused and
continue to work on my craft and work to be
better than I was the year prior. And I'm still
chase that each and every day and every year.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Let me ask you this, I cause I'm always because
I look, when you came out in the draft, I say,
he's the best guy in the draft. And I knew
you were in the draft with Jefferson and you're in
the graft with Cede Lamb. So I'm not gonna do
high and slight and those guys are having phenomenal seasons.
Why do you think the main reason it didn't work
for you? And and and and I think I know
the reason why. But I want to hear you said.
(23:32):
I want to hear you, hear what you have to say.
Why weren't you able to replicate in Denver what you're
currently doing in Cleveland?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
One?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
I think, you know, just consistency just through throughout the
whole offense, you know, and just a lot of moving
pieces and a lot of stuff that I had to
deal with when it comes to playing football, you know,
such as injuries, you know, different quarterbacks in every game,
different coaching staff, you know. So that's something that could
really affect of our receiver and his you know. But
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now that I got the opportunity to really, you know,
had a healthy season, you know, being able to be
that Nomber one receiver, be that number one option, and
be able to get put into a great position to
be able to perform the way I've done, you know.
You know, that's that's all the receiver could ask for
for real.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, I like it. I already know the type of
season you're going to have. You're gonna build off what
you did last year. And it all comes down to
being not only consistent, but when you are consistent, consistency
bring confidence and based on where you're from, you already
know what happens when we feeling confident and it's time
to play football. So I'm excited for you. I'm excited
for what you guys are going to do with Joe
(24:43):
Flacco and Inchadure Gabriel people, whoever it is, whoever's it
the hell to me. Knowing what you can do at
the receiving position, you make everyone else in job around
you easy. I've said that to you and in person.
I said it to you, you know before in general.
So this season coming up, are there any goals that
you've already set long term, short term, whatever it may be,
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numbers numbers wise, you don't have to say anything specific.
I just I just want to know what goals you
had this upcoming season for you individually.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Honestly, one of my biggest goals for it is just
having a winning season.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
That's that's something that I haven't really done since entering
the entering the league, you know, never reached the playoffs.
You know, that's one of my biggest goals. So having
a winning season and be able to reach the playoffs.
That's something I'm truly working hard toils and just being
better than I was last year. You know, I had
a great season last year, finished sixth and receiving yards
and now I'm still trying to trace that number one
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spot in you know, and I ain't gonna stop till
I get there.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Like that you you mentioned, you mentioned like when you're
in Denver, there are a lot of moving parts. You know,
a lot of quarterback the quarterbacks in and out. You
had a lot of offensive you know, offense schemes. Now
it might be a similar situation. You got Joe Flacco,
who's the veteran. You got Kenny Pick. They drafted Dylan Gabriel,
drafted your door Sanders. His body stood out to you.
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It's like, okay, this this this might be my quarterback.
Then I might be starting with him. I mean anything,
have you noticed anything? Has anybody stood out to you?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You know, I feel like we got a great The
biggest thing that you know, I'm thinking thankful for just
having a h for a great quarterbacks. You know, that's
go out there and compete every day.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
That's that, you know, Hey, come on, with that man.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, I'm telling you what it is. Man. You know,
we got four great quarterbacks. Man, they all been doing
their thing for real. So you know, I'm just you know,
my job is to make it easy whoever after him.
You know, I'm just gonna get open for him and
you know, do my thing for real. I don't got
no control over that man, whoever the coaches stat choosing
whoever they picked to be the quarterback. You know, I'm
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just I'm just making sure make their job easier when
they throw me the ball.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I want to know. Yeah, I'm gonna let you go
right now. I got to sneaker this in there because
I love this young boy. I love him watching him play.
He's he's he's a technician. What is it like going
against God damn Denzel Ward. That's what I want to know.
He can play some ball man off, it don't matter
what it is. May he nasty with it?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
You know, there's a great dB. You know, he's one
of the few guys that really know how to like
be so be patient without using his hands, being front
of you without his hands. So you know, that's that's
one thing that really separated the Zell from from his
skill set. You know, a lot of guys that don't
use just don't use their hand really kind of struggles.
So he got feet, you know, great awareness when the
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balls in the air, you know, and he'll a scrapy
dude for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
You know. He a real ball ball player.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, I like I like them.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Look there, I mean obviously you mentioned that you dealt
with some injuries. You dealt with the quarterback play was
not up the part, and where you were in Denver,
you had a lot of different schemes. And Steve Smith Junior,
who's a friend of the show, you and him had
some words back and forth. Have you guys, Have you
guys been able to work out your differences behind the scene?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Honestly?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Nah, you know, man, you know, I ain't. It is
what it is, man, I ain't really too stressed about that.
It's old news, you know. You know, he's things in
the past. Man, I said some things in the past,
you know, But my goals always proved I know who
I am at the end of the day, you know,
and I you know, I proved it last year too,
So I ain't really I ain't really focused on none
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of that.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Man. That's old news to me.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
When I watch you at when I watch you at Alabama,
obviously there are a bunch of talented guys. You win
the Bolitanakop Award in your sophomore season, you win the
National Championship. I mean, I think you caught the game.
What the game went in? Touchdown? Where the game? I
think you got the lead against the SEC Championship against Georgia.
I think winning that with Jalen Hurts came in and
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threw you the ball and you made the dive and catch.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah that was what was that? That was?
Yeah twenty eighteen, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And so I'm looking at I'm looking at you a
jew and I'm like, man, technically sound can.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Run and something.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But for me sometimes I'm like, damn, Jude, you try
to do too much. Man, Just shake the man and
go on about your business. You ain't got to shake
it three times. I mean, you already made him look bad.
You ain't just go ahead this just the one time.
Just just poop on him one time and go on
about your business.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Do you do you do you have?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I mean, there's a clock that gotta go off whether
you're running an out, you're running the inn, you're running
a comeback, you're running the hook.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It don't matter. There's a clock.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
How you when you go out there, and let's say
Denzel war you had great competition in college because you
had pascertained. You had to deal with him in college,
and I'll be damn if he'd come join you in
different So you got an opportunity to work with one
of the best cornerbacks in the NFL. So Ju, when
you're going out there and somebody lines up across to
you and you have a certain route, tell me what's
going to tell Tell our listeners, uh and our viewers
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what's going through your mind?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
First?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
You know, I just gotta you know, you gotta know
to play. Know where I'm at on the field, you know. First.
Then I once I line up, you know, I look
at the safety, see see where the covers at, you know,
look at the safety. Then I look at the leverage
of the DV in front of me, depending on my route.
Then I just think about the technique of how I'm
gonna run this route, depending on if it's a slant
and the outside leverages, I'm gonna am I gonna spray
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him to attack his leverage and make him think I
want to go outside and get underneath it, or if
he's outside inside of me, if I'm gonna or I'm
gonna just quit jib and take it in. You know,
you know, just a lot of different things that just
go through my mind. You know, if that don't if
that don't work, you know, it's reaction after that. M hm.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Hey, how much freedoms you now that you've had a
great season last year? Most of the time you have
officer coordinators. They call plays or they have places to call.
They want their schemes run exactly how they how they're
drawing up on paper. How much freedom are you allowed.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
To do.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Things your way? Just a little bit? Like obviously, when
you have a certain route, you're supposed to be plus two,
do they let you achieve the split a little bit?
Just to throw the DV off? So he did know
what's coming, because most of the time it's all about
reading and understanding based on what you see in watching film,
and most of the time everybody just lines up in
the same spot. The only thing that throws things off
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is the formations are different. Do they give you a
little freedom to change your splits and play with things
a little bit now that you know the offense.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, I think that's one of the reasons I had
success in in Cleveland. Just they let me out there
and let me be free. They know that I understand
the game pretty well. They know how I know how
to beat leverages. I know what they want in the offense,
know where they want me to get to. I feel
like that would that would cause me to have success,
you know. So Coach Stefanski and the coaching staff did
a great job. Just allow me to play my game,
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you know, and just be able to win on every
route they want me to run. They know I know
how to run every rout in the rock treet. You know,
they know I could get open, so they allow me
to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's lie, That's dope.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
There used to be one time, Jude, that Alabama was
the unquestioned wide receiver. You now you got la You
said they leg claimed to that. You got Ohio State
leg claim to that. So who has the real wide
receiver for you?
Speaker 4 (32:08):
You know, I'm gonna always stay bossing and stay tuto
to my teammates, said Olabama twenty four seven. I ain't
gonna never change up. You know, it's always gonna be Alabama.
But now Ferido l S. You've been putting out some guys.
Ahi State got some great guys in the league, you know,
and guys coming up, you know, like the god Jamiah Smith.
You know, it's a lot of great talent out there
(32:28):
for Shore. You know, Alabama gonna always be on top.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
What you got on, Joe, I was gonna say, I
mean it it went, It went Alabama, and Alabama had
a string on the back to back on because you know.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
They came with Julio and they came with they came
to Calvin Ridley, and then they got you, and they
got Rugs, and they got Waddle and they got Davonte Smith.
So they had a run and then Lsu they came back.
He come, he come, Jeda and Helcume Chase and Helcume
Elik neighbors and here come Brian Thomas Jr. And Ohio
State said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa? What about Barren Harrison?
(33:03):
What about Jackson the jig book? What about Gary Wilson?
What about the guy in New Orleans? I forget his name?
What's his name?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Chris Christal Lobby? Hey, they they whoa, whoa, whoa, We
got hey, we ain't. We gotta raise our head too.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Now, the funny thing about it is is Ohio State
might take that torch back once Jeremiah Smith come out
in two years.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Now, he got one more year. He got this one
the next year.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, I said, two more years.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah yeah, this one the next year. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Okay, yeah that boy.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I mean cole Real Florida boy, that was cold.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeh ask you why Alabama? I mean you got Miami,
you got Florida, I mean they're there. I mean you
got U Florida State, I mean l s U, I
mean Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
What made you decide to choose Alabama? One reason was,
you know, I truly didn't want to stay home. You know,
I've been home like that home his home. I just
wanted to experience something, something different, you know, Alabama. I
never expected Alabama. You know, Alabama was just a team
that just like it was just in my heart. Alabama
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was the right spot for me.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
And I grew up watching Amora Cooper. You know, I
play We Got About Coop.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah cool.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I grew up watching Tomorrow Cooper, you know, And I
play with Calm Ridley and I see all the hallworking
great things they did up there at Alabama, you know,
and I felt like I could do the same thing
once I get up there, So you know, thank god
I chose Alabama for real.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, do you guys get an opportunity to go back
because you see, like in basketball, you see the duke players,
they go back and they work.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
They go back to Duke and they work. Do Alabama
do the receiver?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Did you all get a chance to go back down
to Alabama and and help Because I was talking to
Ozzie knew someone who was a great wide receiver turned
into a great tight end, went to the Hall of
Famer and now he's the Hall of Fame exec. He said,
their job, He said, what we tell the guys, each
one teach one. So if you leave, you come back
and you got to tell them, Hey, this is what
we expect, this is how we do things. This is
how we continue the great play at the exposition. If
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you you guys do something like that in Alabama, would you?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Honestly, I haven't been back to Alabama since like my
rookie year, you know, and you know it's different now.
The love the whole coaches have thing, coaching staff. I'm
done changed you know, so it's different different coaches. I
do need to go back out there, you know, and
just you know, say some things. But you know, I
never had a chance to really go back out there.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I like you, man, Thank you, hold on you much.
How many How long y'all got before y'all go to camp?
You got about another week or two weeks?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Yeah, we were back on the twenty second. Man, We're
right back to it. Man, I'm ready for the grind.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Oh you got it.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
You got a few days? Okay, okay, okay, okay, Yeah,
it won't be long.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
It won't be long.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Jude, Thanks man, Thank you for joining us man continued success.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Glad you're healthy. Man.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Hey, I'm glad you got somewhere because, like I said,
I was very high you when you came out. I
thought you were phenomenal. The way you could beat man coverage,
the way you set routes up. Uh, you run a
route with anticipation, like I still got something in my
back pocket in case I needed.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
A later day and time. And uh, but I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I wish you wish we could have had stability at
the quarterback position, which we could have had stability at
the head coaching position, and you're doing what you're doing
in Cleveland. You could have done that for the Broncos.
But hey, I'm happy to see you doing well. I'm
happy to see see you achieve what I always knew
you had in you.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Thank you, man, I APPI that for real.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
You have a good see a tel Denzel Ward Man,
he don't want no smoke with me either. Man, even
that that's whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
You still got it. I've seen that cat.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
You still got a little son.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
You know I was a TV back in my days now,
So don't don't don't let me get.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Don't do it to yourself. Let me get next next year,
next year, put your put your put your shoes on, then.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Back out there.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
That shit. I'm gonna see.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
You a bet.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Congratulations man.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Continued success, and after that season, you come back and
you lead the league in reception of receiving yards. Come
back and holler us again on nightcap for sure, we'll
do all right. Appreciate it, bro all right. Jerry Judy
made his very first Pro Bowl last year. Guys, he
was sixty receiving yards, had his breakout season. The guys,
(37:23):
he said, the thing that contributed that he got consistent
quarterback play and he was able to do some big
things because I thought he was phenomenal coming out of
the University of Alabama. And so it's always great to
see guys be able to transition, to take what they've
been able to do in college and then transition and
carry that over into.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
The NFL O Show.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
So it was glad to see him start to live
up to the potential and the ability that we knew
he possessed, and now he's getting an opportunity to shine
in Cleveland. Well, we got someone joining us earlier tonight, Ocho.
We got Jimmy Horn Junior, who was the wide receiver
out of the University of Colorado. Had had hey half speed.
We could see like when he gets the ball in
his hands. Hey, good luck trying to get him on
(38:00):
the ground. Jimmy, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Man.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yes, a fella, Jimmy was up. Where were you at?
Speaker 5 (38:07):
I'm here Carolina now?
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Soh y'all getting ready to go to camp? What tomorrow? Nah?
We start back up Monday, starting to make money.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Okay, Look the word on the street, there's like one
of the most impressive young guys in camp is Jimmy
Horn Jr. Why have you why and how have you
been able to have such great success that you're a
six round draft pick and you know they got to
have the first They took a receiver McMillan.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
They took him in the first round. They have Xavier Leggett.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Uh, they got what's the guy uh Ocho from uh
from Minnesota, Adam Feeling, They got feeling. How have you
been able to make a name for yourself so so
so quick?
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Jimmy, Man, it's really like a mentality thing, like I
just come out of there, like I know personally that
don't really that so a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
I don't like that.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
I just go out there with a confidence you feel
me in and I really just learned from the guys
that headed, you know, just picking the game and just
coming out there band myself, you know, and then every
day I just come to practice hard. You feel me
like part of the game.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I know that because in the program that you was in,
lad did you land for a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Coach Prime he a worker.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
He believes in working hard, but he also believed in
still in confidence in his players, and you round him,
it's hard not to be confident. And it seems to
me if listening to you talk, You're like, I'm him. Yeah,
I know they took me in the sixth round, but
y'all gon see why they should have took me higher?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
The funny thing about it for those that are in
the chat that are watching, if you know football, if
you understand the game, especially to receive a position, you
already know Jimmy Hornk was not a sixth round type
of player. Now we talk about a round one, a
round two based on his skill setting, his ability to
run rouns, create separation, and what he can do once
he got the ball in his hands. But listen, this
is a good thing. If they took you in the
(40:00):
sixth round, that mean you get to get to the
bag even faster. Though, you get to get to the
bag even faster, so you know, don't trip. I just
want to know is how has the transition been. What
is the difference between being at Colorado and now being
a Carolina Panther? I mean, what has been?
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I want to say the most difficult thing to learn
so far.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Really has been that playboy man. It's been that playboff
for sure. It's really like, yeah, the way coach prior
ran the program, he was already kind of similar to
like how they run it in the NFL. So it's
similar in that way as the schemes and stuff like
being ran, but the players the terminology is like learning
the whole other language that.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
You are all that burbage.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah too much, you know, if you got to be
on it because the ain't no, ain't no pick up
because we put we install it.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
We installed one day.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Guess what we got a hole set of plays the
next day, if we got a hole set of plays
the next day, if we got a hoole set of places.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
So if you fall.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Behind, dead fly, get crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Telly, you said something about I heard you say something earlier.
You say like Coach Prime kind of ran a lot
of this how so, so help us understand how his
coach Prime, because Coach Prime come you know even though
he came with a with a pro background.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
You look at a lot of his coaches, they were
pro coaches.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
And so how has that helped transitioning what you mentioned
transition as fast as you've been able to do. How
Coach Prime coaching style, his system, his discipline, everything about
it because it's a pro style. Because he's gotten getting
guys that are good enough.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
To get to the next level. He's getting them prepared for.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
That, right, I said, It's really like the biggest kid
is really like doing the little things right, you know
what I'm saying. That's from going to class, making sure
he agrees, right, you know what I'm saying, showing up
the practice over time, making sure your sought a certain left.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Like a little small things and once you get them
down pat it made transitioning easier.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
They have to Carolina draft to McMillan, number one draft
pick out of the University of Arizona.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
What's it like, Xavier Leggat. I mean we mentioned Adam Feeling.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Now you and and because of the buzz that you
created for yourself, you know, they gonna they gonna want
to see what you They want to see what you
got come a preseason, so you're gonna probably get you
gonna probably get a lot of burn.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Are you excited? They're like, man, I.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Mean, it's kind of it's like I'm in the NFL.
But if you really get your NFL moment until you
going against other guys and you see them, you got
your Carolina helmet on and they got their team's helmet
on and you're like, man, I'm really in the NFL. Okay,
it's still football. Let me let me go show up.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
What a y'all see, I ain't get that feeling yet,
Like right now, I'm at the more like I ain't
satisfied with like way on, Matt, you feel me. I
just like I'm real excited to get out there, you
know what I'm saying, Like especially miss missing the uh
the live train to camp. I'm just ready to get
back out there and just showing what I could really do.
(43:05):
You know what I'm saying. I got so much potential
left for my game. I ain't at least all love yet.
So that's what I'm That's what I'm most excited to show.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, So what's what's the difference between an NFL wide
receiver room and a collegiate receiver room?
Speaker 5 (43:21):
The depth, the dell, it's the dealth.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
They ain't taking all them guys out there on that
bus like you gotta you gotta find a way out
that you gotta find a way, right.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
But it seems like it seemed like early on, Jimmy,
you did the next little job, because after like the
first day of camp the most impressive rookie with Jimmy
Horn Jr. And from that point on. I don't know
how much of the paper you read. I don't know
how much you watch again on social media, But did
you hear the buzz that you had created for yourself?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah? I seen it.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Man.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
Everything on scroller through tips just keep saying different pluts
and stuff for me. But like you, I try not
to try not let that stuff get to me. You
know what I'm saying. I ain't playing no real game, y'all.
I feel like I ain't doing nothing yet.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
You listen the way you look in practice, the way
you practice, the way you practice, and what people see
in practice, it's gonna be the same exact thing on game.
They listen. I ain't trying to toot your home because
you're here, because I said the same thing when I
seen you that goddamn in Colorado. When you can run
routes when you already polish. The funny thing is, this
is why they was raving by them when they got
(44:29):
to Carolina. Is because he's already polished as a receiver.
So he coming in and he coming from Colorado, so
they expect him to look a certain way and then
with goddamn, why is he popping out looking different from
everybody else? I mean that that's neither hear, no, they are.
But like you said, you ain't at least what you
want to yet. Obviously you missed the previous training camp
(44:51):
on Yeah, yeah, but you got the man. You're gonna
be straight. Man, You're gonna be straight. I seen it.
I know what it's supposed to look like. And you
just play that already. All you got to do now
with the lights on, just do what you normally do.
It ain't no different.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Well, you have an outstate, your quarterback with the number
one overall draft pick two years ago. This would be
his third year. You know, things didn't go as well
as he had hope, but he got his rhythm. He
got an opportunity to sit and watch. What's it been
like working with Bryce Young?
Speaker 5 (45:22):
And it's been a pleasure to work with Bryce. You
like picking Bryce's brain? Bryce smart man, and like Bryce's
real smart and like he know the game he can
break it down to you. And Bryce he really accurate too, man,
He's nice, real nice.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Your former teammate.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
The world watched you win the sixth round, but your
teammates should do it. Your quarterback had a phenomenal season,
had phenomenal two seasons at the University of Colorado. But
you watched him slide because the first round and then
you see the second round, and then you see the
third round, and do you see the fourth round in
the fifth round. At any point in time when he's
going through that process, do you reach out? Did you
(45:59):
send him text like hey, bro, keep your head up?
Anything like that.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Oh, not that I remember, but like when I was
watching it with more peoples and stuff, we just sitting
there watching it like dang, dang, that's all he was saying, Dan,
that's all crazy. But it's all right. Do you know
everything you have for a reason, God got playing with
each person?
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Well.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Today ESPN released their corner rankings, voted on by coaching,
scouts and executives. Number one rated cornerback with Pat Sir
Tanda second, number two, Darryl Stingley Jr. Number three, Denzel
Ward number four, Trent McDuffie number five, Sauce Gardener number six,
Christian Gonzalez, uh J C.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
J C.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Horn, Jalen Johnson, quin Yon, Mitchell, Devon Witherspoon. Of those names,
which one you sided and say, hey, come on, get
this work. Yeah, talk that shit all because you are
you one of them. In your teammate j C is
(47:09):
on the list, he's number seven, So you're gonna get
some great work every.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Day, practice every ded.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
That what Connor worry every day?
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Man?
Speaker 5 (47:16):
That what Conor worry every day?
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (47:19):
That that'd be fun.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
I wish I had your schedule.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Pull up a schedule to see how many of these
guys on the list that you're gonna actually go again?
Now those are the ten best that just don't think
just because you don't see somebody name up there, don't
make the mistake that I made. I made the mistake
of you know, I underestimated someone right, and when I
left the game, I had three kedulees for fourteen yards.
I said, I never made that mistake again, Oh, Joe,
(47:45):
I said, I never make that mistake again. So yay, Look,
you respect everyone, you underestimate no one, and you will
be just fine because every if you're in this league,
everybody in this league can make everybody else in this
league look bad as.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
What what are you expecting? What are you hoping for
your rookie year? What's the What what would Jimmy Horn Jr.
Equate to a successful rookie campaign for.
Speaker 5 (48:16):
My rookie year. I got it in my notes right
here off and the real my tam.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
That's what I want to hear, come on with it.
Speaker 5 (48:23):
Like so like for my own field goals, like when
I catch my first NFL pass, I want to stat
from there and get a minimum of two hundred and
fifty yards. You know what I'm saying. But just to
start off zero draws and then prefet the rock tree. Okay,
and uh school my first NFL test now and make
(48:48):
sure make shaw I'm in an adult with the rotation.
And then for the return goals, lot mo role land
as a punt return or kid return one mm hm,
take at least one return to the crib and then
I'm trying to be at least top five for average
for return average and no fund was on the return.
(49:08):
And then for like mentioning, I just want to be
prepared for whatever come all week.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Already got some goals down. Uh you go get Christian
Gunzales is on your schedule. Saut Gardner is on your schedule.
The Barn Witherspoon is on your schedule.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
I need that.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
So a couple of the guys that's on that list,
you get an opportunity to see them this year hopefully.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
As matter of fact, and you want to do them.
You want to do them a real solid you know,
as a as a I'm here before the week before
you play each one, right, Jimmy shipping boys a signed jersey,
U to the stadium and address it to them. Make
sure you sign that bitch, no more sign yeah, sign
(49:52):
it in like ahead of the game. I'm a look
gift okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
You got a nice litt You got a nice little thing.
But I like that. I like you are you already
got your thing down?
Speaker 3 (50:04):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
I didn't write no lists down until I got it
a camp. I like, hell, my number one thing would
make the team. Let's start with that. All the all
these goals they tell me, Hey, man, I got my goal,
sitt now, my goal is to.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Make the team.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
I got another stuff. I'll write out of the other
stuff down a little later later.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
They died.
Speaker 5 (50:19):
That's for sure. Number one on my list made that
for sure.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
That's sure, well, Jimmy, thanks for joining us, man, Congratulations
are great. Ostellar College career getting an opportunity to go
play in the NFL. Now your journey, hey, them in
going to the NFL, your journey starts all over again.
So good luck, stay healthy and when you get an
opportunity to come back and talk to your favorite uncile
and o jo.
Speaker 5 (50:44):
Hey man, my last thing. Now let me go in
and get up off there for I get it.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Cut out what you want? What you want to say? Hey,
y'all saying we're all on hell?
Speaker 2 (50:57):
Man, word got many people, We got the chat we
got back back about nine thousand.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
Yeah, we got about nine ten thousand of the chat.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
Andy, whe y'all think is the perfect time to get
you a lady in the league.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Man, No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Let me ask you a question. Did you have her
before you got to the league? Couple of couple?
Speaker 3 (51:19):
Love to deck? Becuse you gotta left it. You gotta
let what go.
Speaker 5 (51:24):
Shoot one on the processing elimination.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Hey no, don't, don't even do it. Don't even do it.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, don't, don't don't do it.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Don't do it. Hey, you know what we're gonna get
your talk to you off here?
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Hey, yeah, don't don't don't do it.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
We're talking you offline. I knew that.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Don't do it.
Speaker 5 (51:47):
Literally, I just I just threw that out that a message,
A real quick.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, I listen. It's always a little truth to it,
you know, every time I feel I know you're going
with it. But yeah, lock in, don't don't do it.
Have your fun. Nothing serious. This comes first, your girl,
your lady is that panther and everything that comes with
it and everything that come with it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
So Jimmy, congratulations man, getting drafted, going to the Carolina Panthers.
Best of luck this season, stay healthy and come back
and talk to it soon.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
All right for sure? All right man, Jimmy, Yes, Sir,
Jimmy Horn Jr. Carolina Panther former. See you, Buffalo. Thank
you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm
your favorite on Shannon Shark, my partner and co host
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a special shout out and thank you to Jerry Judy,
the Pro Bowl receiver from the Cleveland Browns and Jimmy Horn,
junior may rookie out of SeeU that's doing really great things.
He was in Mini caamp. Let's see if he can
carry that over in the training camp and into the
(53:55):
season for the Carolina Panthers. So thank you, Jerry Judy,
thank you Jimmy Horn, j you for joining us tonight,
and thank you for watching and listening Nightcap with unkin Ocho.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
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