October 28, 2025 • 54 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson bring you the Best of NFL Week 8! Unc and Ocho react to the Denver Broncos dominating the Dallas Cowboys 44-24, the Cleveland Browns losing to the Patriots and the impact it has on Shedeur Sanders and much more!
0:00 - Broncos vs Cowboys11:12 - Packers vs Steelers23:50 - Chiefs vs Commanders40:12 - Browns vs Patriots
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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But let's get you the game with Today, Lebroncos beat
the Dallas Cowboys by.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
The score of forty four to twenty four.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Cowboys defense reverted back to their old forum, giving up
its longest run of the year, a forty yard touchdown
run by a number one overall draft pick bj Harvick
first round draft pick, not number one first round draft pick,
and Bo Nick's bo tubs Dak Press got through two interceptions,
the number one offense was held in check. The Cowboys
have lost eight straight to the Denver Broncos, tying the
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longest streak to a single opponent in franchise history. I
tried to tell Ocha, said, Ojo man, y'all need't beat us.
Says ninety five were gonna beat Diggle Beach.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
On who was us? Who was us?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm not listen.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm not a part of the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I just felt with him being the number one offense,
George Picking Douerty doing ceedee Lamber's back, you know, Williams
running aways, running the ball. I felt they had a
good chance to win the game today. Now, obviously I
was wrong. That's a good thing about sports. Sometimes you're wrong.
Sometimes you're right. In this case, which which is very
seldom for me.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Is I was wrong.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
And listen, I apologize, you know, for those Broncos fans
that in the chat, congratulations y'all want today?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
How about you? You said you said they But what's
the like, how many times did they play the defense
like the Broncos where they got them guys on the edge,
especially Certain think about it. We beat y'all, We beat
them with the Certain went out drank Greenlock didn't even play.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah he heard it, show it. Yeah he showed did it?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Shall you imagine? Because you know when he was in there,
there was getting Nathan They wouldn't get anything. Y'all.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Y'all played a good game. Both Knicks vow Knicks balled out.
Hey caller Sudden has some really really key catches, some
really key catches, and it got to a point where
the game just got out of reach.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
It got out of reach.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It was out of reach when y'all walked into the
stadium that was out of reach. How many times did
y'all stop us from hold on? Let me go and
look at this that I would have seen. How many
times did y'all actually stop us?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Matter of fact, broad goals?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Okay, they threw it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Interceptions, so y'all stopping them on the first run, and
then it went touchdown, touchdown, punt, touchdown, touchdown in the half,
field goal, touchdown, touchdown punt in the game.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Damn if the.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Broncos turned it over the first possession and then with
touchdown touch I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
We threw them like Sherman went through Atlanta scorch thirst.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Hey, y'all play good.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I'm not gonna lie, man, it's hard hard.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
For we are good. You're talking about we played good.
We got a good team.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, yeah, y'all got a good y'all. Y'all got a
good defense. Y'all got a good defense.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
And the offense it goes as bow Nicks goes, and
both nick troke well offensively, y'all gonna be alright. Then
Bo Knicks had him a day to day. Both Knicks
had him a day to day, and the defense obviously
showed up. Pat went out. I think he heard it.
Probably probably looked like it maybe a pinch nerve or something,
a pinch nerve. Other than that, I think he gonna
be right. But but the boys on the edge, boy, but.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh yeah, Cooper and Bonnito Dallan.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
A man, listen, hey, but them joke is nice.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh yeah, hey, we get after you now.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Uh. Bow Knicks was nineteen or twenty nine, two forty seven,
four touchdowns, one interception. JK. Dobbins had fifteen rushes one
hundred and eleven yards. R J had h I said,
BJ RJ. Harvey had seven for forty six. He had
two touchdowns, and then Franklin six for eighty nine, two touchdowns,
Courtland Sutton four for sixty seven, Pat Bryant two for
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forty one touchdown. R J.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Harvey had one had one catch for five yards.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Of a touchdown. Well, they got a let you see
what dark number was, because then you know what we
do is that if you got if you got hopes
of winning the MVP, of winning some type of award,
come to mind, how you're gonna leave without it? Nineteen
to thirty one, two interceptions. Remember the last three dark
last three games he had thrown three touches, three touchdowns
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and no interceptions. Got we got tired of hearing that
and ty to hear it.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
H y'all can talk. Y'all won the game. Obviously we
understand how good different defense is.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Did you understand that? Because why would you pick him?
Clearly you didn't understand that. Why did I pick the
Cowboys win? Yes?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Because the offense has been on fire the past three
weeks straight. Hold on, So you saying the Broncos or
somebody is the Broncos a team that that that that
that team's supposed to fear. Are you saying that the
defense is like the two thousand Ravens.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
No, No, it's not. No.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
They went to Philly with down eighteen to three and
winning the ball game. Remember last week? Hold on thirty
three points sitting the four quarter?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And what's the key words that I just said?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
As boat Knicks goes, that is how the Broncos will
go now normally, huh.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
That's normally how the team go. The quarterback? What about
your how your team? We ain't talking about your team
just yet. Uh, Dak Press got through two interceptions the
number one offense. Hold On, let me see how many
yards the number one offense that you you've been hyping about.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Oh they've been playing. Let me see what the numbers are.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I'm trying to That's what I was looking for.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I was sitting here trying to find the goddamn stats.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You ain't trying to find new things. You ain't looking
hard enough.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Got it up there, No cowboys, they ain't even have
two three hundred yards of offense averaging folks something how
many points of the game. And they got a little
cheap touched down at the end.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, but this is what you have to understand.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
This is what you have to understand.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Listen, even a.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Squirrel getting not every blue movie every so often, they're
the number one offense for a reason. Sometimes. Listen, this
is a trap game. This is a trap games. You
know what we're gonna You know what we're gonna let
We're gonna let the Broncos have this one the bill,
their confidence up a little bit, make them feel like
they're really doing something, and the next week, what's gonna happen.
It's gonna be right back to the old Oh man, Well,
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this is what happened, and this is why we didn't win.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
We don't do that we don't do that. We don't
play what we do. What we don't do is play
down in the competition. The standard is a standard. With
the Broncos three times Super Bowl champs, that's who and
what we are.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Oh okay, so the standard is the standard, right, is
a standard? Okay, okay, just a matter of fact. Let
me let me write that down. The standard is a standard.
I want to make sure. I want to make sure
when we come back next Sunday, I want to make
sure the standard is still the standard. After that game,
it will be my man, my kids and took my
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pen and paper. Man, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And I can't believe you you actually, Oh yo, now chat,
we're the last time y'all know cho to go on
Sunday without tweet.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I ain't tweeted that. Oh come on, Internet wasn't working.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I bet it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, not tweeting it like cornflate without the milk. You
know what I'm saying. So they just go together Sunday.
Oh your tweet.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
But this is this is, this is the point you
have to understand. I said. I tweeted it out.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Obviously I was using my neighbor's WiFi I'm using my
neighbor's WiFi right now.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
That's why I was able to come on Nightcap.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I tweeted you back and said I wasn't gonna be
able to come on the show tonight because my WiFi
was down. The fiber optive system that they used all
the wire over here, somebody grass.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
They cut a line. So when they cut the line,
like boom, and how do.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
You cut grass?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
How you hide the line on top of the ground like, no,
they went underneath.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
They went underneath.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I don't know what cut grass under these who got
a bunker that got girl grass.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Under the ground?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Hey, listen, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That's our awful suspicions. Done this sound suspicious to you?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Check it sounds suspicious to me when I heard it,
sounds suspicious to me. So I'm using my neighbor's WiFi
right now, so I might go in and out, but
just know I did everything I can to make sure
I'm making tonight.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
That's why.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Uh, hey, hey, I have my camera. Look because my camera,
my camera like kind of kind.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Of is good.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Dad, look good. It's you okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I mean you put your Hey.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I was three and oh this weekend, you're three and
over Hood Ravens one, Broncos one.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
But who is the third?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Loss?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Savannah Stoh I spoil of Savannah State one? Homecoming?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
We hold on? Who is the third?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Who? I mean? You you Broncos one, Ravens one two
Savannah State one.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
That's three Bengals loss.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
For it out?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Oh here you come on?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Man?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Wait a minute, hey you you he hear? And how
high the Dolphins won?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
To day? Whoa? Whoa?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Whoa the Dolphins one?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
To day?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I'm saying all the teams that I played for that
Shannon Sharp played for one, the Guppies. You never played
for the Guppies.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute. It
doesn't matter who I played for. It is where I'm from.
That's my home team. That's all I knew.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
That's what I grew up knowing until I got drafted.
So therefore I'm a Doll fan.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
First, before I knew thinking about it, before I knew
anything about the Cincinnati Bengals ar the dlphin Guppies since
nineteen sixty eight, and we won today.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Did you see what we did? Tatlana, let's talk out.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
I saw that, Okay, Okay, let's put some respect on
matter of fact.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Hold on, Chad, he hurt about that chat, He hurt
about that.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Let's put some respect on my quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh, Joe, just the only one I see right here?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Hey, hey, hey, put some respect on my quarterback too,
hey were Hey.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Listen, we would do it all. We would do it
all that.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
You know that that tongue glashing and saying that you
know it was it was up and he needed to
go with they need to fire Mike McDaniels. And this,
even even I was a culprit. Even even me, someone
who's always been nice and.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
And and and and and trying to find excuse for people,
even I was critical. But after the day two of
the future, two of the future of the Miami Dogs
and franchise, now they can clean house everywhere else.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
But as long as Uno is there, we're gonna be
all right. Based on what I saw today. Now, let's talk.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Bubble gum, bubble gum popp bubble gum bubble gum pop pop.
My team, my team on top, your team, your team
on flop?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Yay, you just made that up?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Just now? That was the chier we had our cheerlead.
Did that were in high school all that. Now, you know,
Kyle was, we ain't bad and we ain't cocky. Yeah,
ride old you lack of carver sockety, but we hey,
we were bad. Oh Joe, oh joe. Steelers turned them
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all over in the second half once fumble by game Well,
Rogers was sacked twice.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
The pressure was relentless all night.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
They flushed him out of the pocket and the Jordan
Love had three hundred and sixty passing yards as they
take down as they take down the the Steelers thirty
five twenty five, as you can see, three hundred and
sixty passing yards, three touchdowns knowing exceptions, ninety four rush yards.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It was a complete team effort.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Every you know, Brandon McMahon's miss two field goes that
long win that fifty seven, maybe just the tad out
of his range, but there's no excuse for the other one.
He just he shanked that thing really really bad. Yeah, Ojo,
what did you like about what you saw from the
green Back Packers to night listen?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
The Packers good.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Obviously, I thought that the first half, I thought the
Steers was gonna run away with the game. I honestly
thought the Steers we gonna run away with the game
the way it was a defensive game in the first half.
The Packers, I don't know what the hell coach told
him at halftime, came out on goddamn fire, not the defense,
but hell on goddamn offense too. They scored on the
first five possessions in the second half. I'm not sure
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what happened to the Steelers defense, but you got people
on that back end that you paid really good money,
top quality money, simply to be able to stop the
goddamn pass.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
They got Tucker Craft out there looking like he.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Got damn it was National tight end Day, don't yo, huh?
It was National tight end Day? Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
But that's what today was.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Tucker Craft showed out the night on National tight Ends Day.
He had one hell of a goddamn day. George Love
deal with Jordan Love does. But again, once they came
out of halftime and the Steelers couldn't do anything defense
to stop them, it was gonna be a long night.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
The first half, the first half is good. That was
some good football on both sides of ball from both teams.
And I mean, listen, the Packers came out at the
half and stealer couldn't do nothing with them on offense.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
They couldn't stop him at all. Yeah, Jordan Love twenty
nine to thirty seven, three sixty three touchdowns, no interceptions,
no sacks, no turnovers. Josh Jacob had the only rush touchdown,
as you mentioned, Ojo Tucker Carson seven for one, two touchdown.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
He was sensational.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Christian Watson his first game back, four for eighty five,
Romeo Dobbs had three for forty four, Malik Heath had
three for twenty nine. They played really well, And I
agree with you, O Joe. The Steelers got you know
you they got you. Look at what they have defensively.
They make the trade for Jay Ram, They have Joey
Porter Junior, who was the second round draft pick, a
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lockdown guy. You look at high Smith and you look
at Why and you look at Cam Hayward. Yeah, but
can't you can't let them go up and down the
field like that.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You can't, not, not, not in your building.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I can't, and not for that kind of talent. We're
not We're not just talking about doing anybody. We talked
about some of the some of the greats that have
played this game for a long time. That that bring
your veteran presence where things that you want to do
on defense, it's much easier because of the level of
skill and talent that they do have. But it just
didn't look like it just didn't look.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Like that to night.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You didn't look like that. We just did look like that.
Come on, man, it didn't look like that. I'm agree
with you. It didn't look like that tonight. That all
that talent that they have defensively, you don't. You don't.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
You don't have to do men on the jacket, We
get that jacket.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
That's from Sorry, hey, Chad, Am I doing too much?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Chad.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I want y'all to be honest with me. Is there
too much? Too much?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I know? The one thing about the chat. Let me
see what the chat say, cause the chat gonna be
honest with me. The chat always you do it too much?
You know, slow down a stall and I don't do
oh Joe like that chat. I know y'all gonna be
honest with me, so y'all could be honest. Is this
too much? If the blazer, the uh, the phone figure,
the T shirt, it's that too much chat?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You feel like you feeling good tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Oh, I try to tell you about this. I told
you that it was gonna happen good. I told you
we can go do something. But I told you, I said,
we're gonna do something bad to the Cowboys, I said,
and the jet's gonna get y'all. I try to tell
you that, but you ain't wanna, You ain't.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Want to hear me. I'll just go ahead and say
this down.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Right here, listen. You didn't know this just was gonna
do that today.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I did. But nobody, no, nobody.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Expected to justice when that got did nobody did. No,
you didn't know. You didn't because I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Sure man gonna put it. He won't put it back
in the half bad?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Come on, bro, it's all it's all good, It's all good.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I was, Oh, Joe, I was surprised with how well
Green Bay moved the ball in the second half. Concerned
it now, they have a lot of drive that they
stalled themselves out in the first half. Uh, and then
they missed two They missed two field goals. Like I said,
maybe the fifty seven yards of fifty seven yards was
a tad outside of McManus's rang, but that second half
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was a complete domination by the UH, by the UH,
the packers. They look good that front they got after
Michael Parson, they were getting chipped. And I told you,
I said, the best the beneficiary of Michael Parson's coming
over there is gonna be Rashaun Gary Gary, because you're
gonna have to look and after he had that three
sack performers last week, he had four, but they took
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it back because of it, he'll drop tackle. I knew
that they were gonna play extra close attention to a
Micah and so now Rashaan Garrett is getting a lot
of one on one. So I already knew that the
beneficiary of this trade was gonna be Rashan Gary. And
so now you got two guys streaming up there outside
UH that can that can rush with power, that can
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rush with the speed. They do a great job of
getting off the ball, and they were relentless last tonight.
Now I don't think the secondary is that great. So
they're gonna have to get off the ball like that.
They're gonna have to apply pressure o jo because they
don't have shut down guys in the secondary. They have
they have Okay, they have decent guys, but as long
as they can continue to generate the pressure that they're generating,
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they're gonna be just fine. They're gonna be just fine
playing at the way they played. But I thought offensively
the Jordan Love man, if you didn't know Aaron Rodgers
actually played there, I mean, look at the throws that
he's making off his back book, looking at if he's
throwing a cross his body, his manner hysms remind you.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And I'm not saying he's gonna be Aaron Rodgers. I'm
not say he was gonna win for m v P.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
But I'm saying if you look at a lot of
his amounner rhythms, and we look at a lot of armslocks,
the way he throws the ball off his wrong foot,
off his back foot.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Quick quick quick release.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah yeah, the side armed.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, he's really good.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You could tell.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
You can tell he's obviously studied.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Erring, studied and watched, yes, and studying.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Watching some of the stuff he's doing. He wasn't doing
it in college. It has nowhere, so obviously. This is
this is why I said at times, sometimes it's good
for quarterbacks when you're coming as a rookie, depending on
who the starter is to sit back, relax, take it
all in, and learn from whoever it is that's sitting
in front of you. And then when your time comes,
then you look exactly how Jordan Loves looks.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Some of the best quarterbacks didn't start. I mean you
look at obviously Brady didn't start, Betew Mahomes didn't start. Uh,
Josh Allen. I don't think Josh Allen started his first game.
We could look that up. I don't think he did.
I think but once he got in, yeah, he didn't
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look back. But I thought the Packer's gonna look that's
the Packers. That's a tough division. Well, I think it's
a two team division. The quarterback play. The quarterback play
in Minnesota and the Chicago is not as nearly, is
not as consistent as it needs to be to be
able to keep up with those other two teams, Detroit
and green Bay. I think Green Bay and Detroit obviously
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are the class of that division. I just don't think
Carson Wentz and Caleb Williams give you consistent play weekend
and week out, down in and down out to really
challenge these teams. I look, it's intra division, so anything
can happen. We know, anything can happen within a division,
but me, I just don't think the quarterback play is
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nearly consistent enough. But I was very impressed with the
Packers going on the road, knowing how much of this
game meant to Aaron Rodgers. And normally when you play
a team, ojo that you played there, your team, your team,
he comes back and you know, they pick you up.
They want to they want to make sure you win
that game. I ain't even know I had this T
shirt on. Up on here, oh chuck, hold on, hold on,
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get with.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Jacket do oh hey you hot it now?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah? Hot down here? Yeah, hold on loosten.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
But look look, hey y'all see the inside y'all like
the inside?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
What what that said? What the man? Broncos them all.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
The Broncos logos, all the logos. This was the first
logo they had, like in the sixties. Yeah, this was
I think this was like sixty eight. This was the
first one. This was the second one, the third one.
This is the fourth one, you know, and you know
little something that the Broncos. This is what they give
the ring of fame. Arno rees all thrilled, all four
of the logos, orange jacket y'all get one of these jokes.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Huh, Yeah, I got I got one. Yeah, listen, listen.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You got you got the Bronco logos.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Mine got, you know, all the stripes, all the tiger stripes.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I ain't see that jacket. I ain't seen you with
no jacket old when you went in the Ring of
Fame two years ago.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah, we had that all. We got, all got the
same jackets.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I ain't see it. I'm just saying I didn't see it.
Oht Yoe, I.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Got anything over there, I got anything else over there.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I'm aware, I'm aware.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Take it.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I think I got went in there.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Take it out night you You ain't got to show it.
No more stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
We know, we know, y'all.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I got a few things.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
We know.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
We know y'all won today.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
We know I got this close up. Damn yeah, oh Joe,
see see my bowling bag.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
What's that bowling bag? You ain't even bowl?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Now that now I don't bowl. Let me hold on, hey, toy,
you got to keep the shoes in here. I better
I never catch you at the alley. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, Hey, listen, I bowled too way you're better.
Who shooting?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Miss damn my bowling bag? So what would assume?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
And them shoes brand new?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Still you're on bowl, man, don't do that. Don't do
that on your don't do that. Don't do that one
thing about it.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
You're not a bowler.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You might be a lot of things. You how you
gonna bowl? And your hips don't work?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
The work? You're fine.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I just said they worked five.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And you know when you bowl, you got to get low.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
They showed it. They know they know what's that? That's
eight pound ball? I big it look like that though.
I got a couple of bowl in there, y'all. O
water away William Julie.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Hey, you know you can't bowl you you walk around
with eight pound balls?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Buddy, ain't no eight pound ball sixteen pound balls?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Huh Now you ain't no bowler man.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
That ain't like you. Man, talk to me.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I'm not trying to be no heed. What's your best, sco?
What's your best? Go on to add it?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I told you I think my best go like two twenty.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
That's it, man.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
My daughter bowled to twenty. I beat you, nah, now
you know.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
What I hey?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Uh like that uh.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Nathan Peterman started Week one of twenty eighteen versus the
Ravens before Josh Allen came into the third quarter and
he didn't look back.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
So oh, hey, Nathan Peterman was bad.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Oh yeah, he was a verb. I mean Peter, Hey,
they're out there, Petering. Was that the game he threw
like five picks? Or was he in Sandy?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Was was he at the Chargers when he had that
terrible game?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Ash?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Look, because he had one game he had like five.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Picks a fumble?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah he was.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
He was good and terrible.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
The Chiefs use a dominant second half to pull away
from the Commanders by this of twenty eight to seven.
Patrick Mahomes tosses three touchdown passes in the second half,
as you can see the numbers right there, and they
win comfortably twenty eight to seven. You know, watching this
game on you, I just thought the Commander squad the
two many opportunities in the first half. They had an
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opportunity and the ball hits Deboy in the face and
Mike Dana intercepts it and they come up short on
the fourth down where he tosses out of bounds. But
I thought they had some really good opportunities in the
first half to really apply some pressure. They were doing
a great job of getting the ball lot quick. I
thought Marcus Mariota did a great job, you know, and
Cliff Kingsbury did a great job of putting them in
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situations where they could get the ball lot quick. A
lot of misdirections use Mariota's legs a little bit. But
when you'd have when you're on the road and you
don't take advantage of opportunities when they're presented for you.
When a team gets their rhythm, especially at their home,
they're probably gonna pull away for you from you and
you know you saw are very uncharacteristic some turnovers. You
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notice that rather was a terrible route by Hollywood Brown.
Oh Jo, how are you in the slot? You already
got leverage on him. How do you take two steps
and stop them? Start looking back for the ball? You
know you hey, even my home went to the sideline
and your role and you notice he disappeared after that, Didney?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Oh yeah, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
It all comes down to being sharp, being sharp and precise.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Regardless of what route you're running, you always have to
be stay friendly to your quarterback. And understand, you know
how did not only get open but continue to create
separation to be able to catch any and everything. You know,
for for Hollywood, as long as he been playing the
game of football, you know better than that.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, you can't run the right. You got to put
pressure on the dB. You got to make him think
you're going deep. So who's gonna want to get on
top of you? If you start back? If you take
three steps and you looking for the ball, you don't
run no got route like that? Who runs a goat
route like that?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
You're not You're not fooling nobody. You're not gonna fool nobody.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Like that at all.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
And uh, you know, I'm sure that was a situation.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
And then he hits trap in the head with the
ball and it pops up in there and be wags
end up picking that off. But I thought once he
got it going, guys made play for him. He did
a great job of using his legs, sometimes to run
his way out of harm's way and sometimes to buy time.
You see him hit Rashid Rice on a couple of
plays like that he found for a touchdown, the running
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back for a touchdown. You see him travel, He hit
travel a couple of times after using his legs to
buy time. But I thought overall, once they got it
going in the second half, they had drives of what
ninety plus yards, eighty yards, seventy yards, and it really
broke the ball game open because for the first half
O Joe, I thought the Commanders defense did a great
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job on him.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Listen, they did a phenomenal job on him.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
This and whether they plays on the whether they played man,
they added pressure, and they played a really good game.
The one thing I don't like about the first half
of the Commanders and the Chiefs one of the few
teams that when they turned the ball over man after
the capitalize.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You got to make them pay.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
You got you got to make them pay because at
whatever point the Chiefs catch that momentum and find their rhythm,
you want to stress that lead as far as possible
to make the game a little easier, make it a
little more difficult for them to almost into a point
in a since on. You got to make them damn
there one dimensional where they don't have a throw to
get themself back in the game.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
But the game was too close once they caught fire.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
And then my home started processing that information a little
faster or y'all plans.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
On, Well, hell, I'm finna be surgical.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, we'll find every hole because every time there's a
defensive play called, there's always a whole in my home.
Knew exactly where to go with the ball every goddamn time.
Those players with the defense actually called the right play. Okay,
you got me this time, but I'm gonna beat you
with my legs. Then he go beat you with the guy.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
But it's goddamn legs, so.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I think, and you're right about that, especially when you're
on the road. When you're on the road, you try
to keep the crowd out of the game as long
as you possibly can, as long as they're not cheering,
as long as they're sitting on the hand at the
edge of their sheet and they're nervous you winning. But
when you get those opportunities, because the momentum is gonna swing.
If you look at the first half, the Commanders had
the momentum. Now what happened is that in the second
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half the Chiefs got the momentum. And when they got
the momentum, it went fourteenth, it went fourteen seven, twenty
one seven, twenty eight seven, and the blinkoler night and
the game's over. Hey it was.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
It was a rap and they were where they scored
what three straight.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Possessions possessions and then they ran the ball, you know,
ran the clock down, laying the box or they could
have let you. I'm surprised that didn't, you know, but
I just thought they did a great job. They were
really really bounced to show you. Look at it. Targets.
Travis Kelson had eight targets. Recei Rice had nine targets.
They've be your word. They had seven targets, and you
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had six catches, nine catches, five catches, so you saw
what they were doing. He bought time and found juju
on a couple of routes. He found bout time with
his legs and found a Kareem hunt in the m
zone with his legs. He's done a great job. As
he's gotten older, he's doing more and more with his legs.
He will run, but he's really looking to buy time
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and hope somebody comes open. And that's what makes him
so dangerous. You don't want to bless him because he
will come out of it. He will jump out the
window on you and take off running. But he will
but he's also looking. He's constantly trying to process this information.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Can I throw this.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Ball over their head? Is there a gap somewhere I
can fit this ball in to get me ten fifteen,
twenty yards down the field and pick up a first down.
But I thought they ran the ball. Well, you look
at Kareem Hunt and Isaiah Picecko. Is what they did
running the football. Twelve carries fifty eight yards, nine carries
forty yards. Mahomes had four carries for thirty yards. Thirty
rush attempts one hundred and forty eight yards, so basically
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almost five yards of carry.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
That's good enough to win. Very ballanced.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Mahomes had two hundred and ninety nine yards passing, three touchdowns,
two interceptions.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
He was sacked three.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I thought they did it. I thought Martin did a
great job of putting pressure on him. They did a
great job of forcing it out of the pockets. But
you got when you get there, you got to get
him on the ground. I don't know what that last sex,
I don't know what he was.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
He saw.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Mahomes gave himself up and then you're still gonna throw
him down right there in front of the referee and
you don't think he's gonna call it, he's gonna throw
a flag.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
That's frustration, that's all. That's all frustration. That's all frustation
at that point. And y'all obviously, okay, I can't hit.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Him all game.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
We haven't been able to get to him all games.
He's been getting out of the pocket, extending plays. You
know what, I finally got a whole leve him. I'm
gonna give him a little extra, give that extra just
to let him know I'm here. And it didn't matter
at that point.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
No, And when you look at Locho, I think they
didn't run the ball nearly as much as they needed to,
because now all of a sudden, the pressure started to
get into Merrick Mariota. He had eight rushes twenty eight yards.
Cosky Merrit had nine for twenty five yards. That's not enough.
And it looks like Chlorin by of Nick that growing
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to that hamstring again because he ended up coming out.
I thought he made some great plays. Hell. I thought
Debo was a catch right there at the pylon, and
then I was looking at him like, man, that's a
catch by McLaurin in the end zone. That was a touchdown.
Now I don't necessarily know. If I was an official OHO,
I would have overruled because I couldn't see that right leg.
The inside leg did it hit down out of bounds?
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He did get the elbow down, and you look at
the left leg. The left leg didn't come down, But
where was that right leg. There was never a clear
view of where I could see what is right what
is the right leg was doing. So I probably wouldn't
have overruted it. But even in real time, I thought
that was Those were catches with Devo and McLaurin.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
But you know, A that was a situation.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I'm sure they said, oh, that's the cheese getting home cooking,
the chiefs getting home cooking.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Wait listen, I'm not I'm not saying the rest of cheating,
but they was cooking.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I think the thing is ojoe. If you go back
and look at it, A lot of them were out
of position, like that catch on the sideline. There were
really no officials right there in the vicinity, so you
got to be in better position. Now, they were looking
at McLaurin when he was in the end zone and
they're trying to see but you want to get there
as close as you possibly can, because you got a
really hard job. Is his feet and does he hold
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on to the ball? If I look at where he
catches the ball, I can't pay attention to his feet.
So they really have a hard job. And that's really
the job of two people. That's why you always see him.
Check what did you get? Was he out of bounds
back there? Naw, he didn't step out. Okay, what he
touched the pilin is good. So that is a two
man job. But the guys got to be in position.
The guys, the women, and the men. They need to
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be in better position to make sure they're on top
of those calls so they can get it right. But
it's a tough situation and it's only gonna get worse
since the implement of gambling. And what we're starting to
find out now people are going to now is really
gonna ratchet up. It's really going to ramp up and say, see,
I told you I can do it all along.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Man, you can't fool me.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
High Team played like this one week and then the
next week they act like they ain't never seen foot
or ball.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, and this is a funny thing about it. Now
Now people can say what they want to say. You
can say the ref cheating, you can say that they didn't.
But you understand when you ever have a quarterback, when
you have a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, it gives you
a favorable chance to win any match, yes, chance to win,
to win any game. Obviously, if there was some turnovers
early in this game, the commanded what they needed to
do to capitalize on those turnovers, and you saw what happened.
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And it's funny how the conversation about the Kansas City
to have kicked. The conversation about the Kansas City Chiefs
had changed as the weeks have gone on. First they
washed they're not the same as they used to be,
the receiver of the plan bad. In the first two
weeks they started owing two which they haven't they haven't
done before, to now looking like the Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Chiefs of Bowl. And it was only a matter of time.
It was only a matter of time for players getting
back healthy, uh.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Rasiet Rice coming off the suspension, Hollywood Brown being in,
Travis Kelcey actually getting back to form, and then with them,
ay now they hitting on all cylators and we still
probably even had we still haven't even seen probably the
best Kandids City Chiefs team we can see just yet.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I'm just trying to figure out what happened to Taekwon Thornton.
How does the guy be that involved? And I understand
Rashi Rice coming back, I get that, O Joe, But
when a guy puts up that kind of numbers, you've
got to find a way to get him on the field.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
They got so many options, man, Look.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
It's hard for you to convince me to Hollywood Brown
is better than Taekwan Thornton based on what we've seen
this year. Yeah, I'm not saying what he was when
he was in Baltimore or what the year that he
had in Arizona. I'm talking about right now, based on
what you saw Hollywood. Hollywood Brown was in there, and
Taye Kwon Thornton was in there when Rashi Rice wasn't twy,
tayk Tae Kwon Thornton was their best receiver.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
He was maybe making some plays, he was making catches
you especially dep balls was needed and it mattered most
and I knew, I knew they were going to play
like this.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I understand.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
So that that's why when we had him on the
show and I said, listen once that door opens for you.
Make sure you put your foot in their cross it
and close the door behind you. Because this is the
type of game that they play when it comes to business,
when it comes to those that have already been paid,
those who were making top dollar, they gonna see the
field first.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I get that with Shei Rice. I get that with
Roschie Rice because he is their best receiver. Oh Joe,
we saw the maturation when he came in as a
rookie and he got better and better and better and better,
and as the year he was clear cut he was
the number one receiver. Obviously, had I had some issues.
I think he got nicked and he got that situation,
got himself off Feeld, got that.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Behind him, got that issue resolved. But I just I'm
looking at that. Damn.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
You mean to tell me this man can't get on
the field and get ten plays. He can't get one target,
he can't get two targets. Now show after doing what
he's done in the absence of for she Rice. Look,
we're not trying to start no conflict. But I think
everybody in Kansas City, and I think people that watched
the game, follow.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
The game, study the game. You're like, hold on how
does a man go from playing that well to not.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Even getting in the game, barely getting in the game,
not getting any targets.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
In a sense, I'm not even upset, And since I'm
not even upset because I understand the doors with the
way he played when everyone else was out, when Hollywood
Bride wasn't there, When when Hollywood was there, No, no, no,
when he when he wasn't there Hollywood, Hollywood wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yet he was hurt?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Where were they at? Not this year?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
What wasn't he her?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Early on when Taekwan kept making making all those players
make it ok Hollywood, Xavier rights, XAVI, You're worthy and.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
And and and Taekwan, No, no, somebody somebody was missing.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Somebody was missing from the equation but missing okay either
either either way, either way Taekwon thought was was arguably
easily based on what we were seeing.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yes, that's that's That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
But this is the only thing.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
This is the thing I like is you've already put
it on film, now, you already put it on the field.
What you can't do when you're actually put in a
position to make those players, So that door and the
opportunity to play somewhere else where. They will probably use
him and his skill set that he does have. With
that kind of speed, it's gonna pay off.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
It just might.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
And it's not gonna pay off where he is now
because obviously they don't appreciate we was able to do
because you have too many other options.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
You got too many other options. And maybe maybe it's
a situation, don't you know, Maybe he's nicked. Maybe there's
something going on that you do. And I don't know
about a scenarios out there brought down You know that.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
You know the game, and folks play, you know the game.
They't play.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Hold on, Hey, I'm you know, I'm sitting there. I
gotta I gotta, I gotta grab a chair. I'm sitting
here on my suitcase. And look what I'm sitting there.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
You heard me? Love, yeah, love, have mercy.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
It's hurt my butt.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, see yeah, think about it. Oo, Xavier, you're worthy
was injured and now Hollywood was there.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Okay, that's what that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
That's what I knew.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
It was one of them. I knew it was one
of them.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I just so, yeah it was. That's that's but Taekwan, but.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
He and maybe it's a situation oo where he played
the same position as Worthy Hollywood played plays a different
position because you know you got two speed guys. So
maybe that's the situation. But I was I was driving.
I was trying to figure out, like with damn, how
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he go from being so productive to damn there he
damned there inactive.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I've seen it so many times.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I've seen it so many times, which is why I
don't want to say the wrong thing because they are winning.
But when when you have when you have a team
like that where they can they can, they can plug
and play different players in different positions, and because you
have Patrick Mahomes, it's going to always work regards to
who you put out there.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
It's hard to argue the fact on real hard to
argue the fact.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And then Juju is so versatile. Juju blocked, Juju make
the tough catches over the middle. He understands, uh, he
doesn't miss hot reads. Uh. And that situation where they
run the fake I'm trying to figure out. I'm like, Noah,
why would you run a seven rock? Bro?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
You just trying to score a touchdown?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Don't run that? And the ain't gonna get that up
the field.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I'm like, guys, guys, do y'all.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I don't get it. I ain't trying. I'm trying. If
I got the defense food and the linebacker is trailing
me from the inside, I'm not trying to give a
twenty yard completion. I'm trying to get a forty yard touchdown.
And you see how Mahomes threw the ball. Mahme threw
him up the field because Bee Wags was trailing on
the inside. He was like he wanted to catch it
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and get tackled out of bounds. No, bro, take that
up the field.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Maybe maybe maybe it was set up like that. Maybe
it was a to be a twenty yard completion and
not a forty yard two touchdown. But that that's like,
you know, the way we ran around, like, look, if
somebody's over the top, you're flatted off. If somebody's in
the trail, you keep it high, right. Yeah. Patriots beat
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the Browns thirty two to thirteen. One week after finally
at clips in seventeen points. Cleveland offense reverted to its
old form, mustering two touchdown Gabriel also couldn't take care
of the ball. One thing coaches has consistently praised him for,
it's taking care of football.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
But guess what oo two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Shudor Sanders was an active because of a back injury,
but calls but the calls for him to play will
only grow louder if the Browns continued. Oh the Browns
by Weeks this week, even though Kevin Stefanski said after
the game that Gabriel will remain the team starter for now.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Uh they goddamn Drake May. Boy looking hey, listen, Drake
May and Josh McDaniels. Now I'm not saying I'm not
I'm just saying the start that they're off to right now.
God damn Patriots is six and two on yes, but
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them boys sixty two and they dealing. Boy Drake May
is dealing. They running, They running the ball, they throwing
the ball. And he's not just as opposed to flak
Oh going to Uno, you know all the time, nineteen times,
Man Drake May getting everybody, Man, listen, you get you
get a ball, You get a ball, you get the ball.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Boute Stefan Diggs, many.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Of Henry and everybody eating yes, everybody eats, and it's
a good thing.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
It is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Obviously you're playing the Browns, and Browns have a very
good deepens. But there's only so much they can do.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
There's only so much holding a team, holding the team
down that they can do with your offense is sputtering,
and the offense is too too much. You know, you
you dead the water and then you've got damn defenses
act on the goddamn field. Damn they all got long
all night long.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah it is, and I'm looking. Patriots had the ball
for over thirty six minutes, so that means that means
the Browns only had it for twenty three and a
whole lot you can do in twenty three minutes with
the football at all you got. If you're gonna have
the ball twenty three minutes, you got.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
To be explosive, efficient and explosive.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Kansas City. Kansas City didn't have it because you had
Tyreek taking the top off and too. In one play,
two plays, forty seconds, they don't score a touchdown, so
you could understand that they don't have that level of explosiveness.
So when you have the ball twenty three minutes, that
means somebody else possessing it, and they're gonna put foot seeding.
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Miles Garrett had a career high five sacks today, but
became the first player in NFL history to do that
and lose by more than three points. With his five sacks,
Garrett passed Reggie White for the most sacks by a
player one hundred and eight point five before turning thirty
since sacks became an official stats in nineteen eighty two.
Despite personal success, Miles Garrett, Miles was caught being visibly
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upset with offensive woes on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Oh,
Joe after the game, and you were hot.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Wow, it doesn't get any easier, he tweet.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
You asked me, so, how you feel out here?
Speaker 2 (43:29):
For six? A lost diminishguard autist. I would throw the
whole performance away for a win, o Jo. Maybe I
want you to explain it to me as if I
was seven. So you're really gonna have to get down
to it. Explain it to me as if I was
a kid.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
I got you to talk to me.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I want you to tell me. What was Miles Garrett thinking,
what's gonna happen? Based on everything that has happened since
he's been there. What has he seen from this organization
that convinced him they were going to get it right?
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Well, uh uh, you have to understand as a seven
year old that you are. I'm going to explain it
to you in the best way possible. Miles Garrett understood,
there is no more guaranteed money on my contract.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
So what am I going to do?
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Because I want a huge lump sum and I want
to raise I'm going to throw a fit. I'm going
to throw a fit in wanting to get out to
demand the trade, to force their hand. Understanding there is
no one else, there is no one else that can
pull this off outside of me.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
As great as I am.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
They don't want to lose the asset that is me
because my value is at its highest peak right now.
And understanding I can get what I want by doing this.
This was very strategic. It was well thought out. He
understood what the Browns were. They weren't changing in one year,
They're not been changing two years. Hell, they ain't changed
in the past thirty five years. So no, it was
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you know, it's about games, about getting your back, getting
your money. That's that's what it's about Yeah, that's around it. Now,
when you get it from the media, you know, you
get it from the media, of course you're gonna see
all the right things.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Of course. Come on, now, that's a part of the game.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
You're right, it's a part of the game.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
And that's that's, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
I agree with everything that you said.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I think Miles Garrett is an outstanding football player. He
seems like a here, upstanding young man. But at this
point I don't feel sorry for him. I can't.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
This is what you this is what you signed up for.
Ojo the days of Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
You've been back in the day, Oh yo, be like okay,
the military, unders say, I'm looking for a few good men.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Back then you go train a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
You're like, hey, I would get that g I Bill,
I would get college played for Now you sign up
for the military, You're going to fight. Yeah, they got
all this stuff going on around the world.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
You going everywhere.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah, it ain't no, it ain't no just no no no.
Video games. You go a couple of weekends and you
I feel duties that you go.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Do no no no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
All that all that trying to join all that, trying
to join it. Go get your hell cat and get
you a challenger. Oh you're gonna are You're gonna earn that.
Oh you earned that, You're gonna earn. You're gonna earn that.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
With everything that's going on around the world, it's a
different time. I can't as much as I want to.
I don't feel empathy. I don't feel I don't feel
compassion for Miles because this is what he signed up for.
He Look, this is what he signed up for. Okay,
now that you got your money, you see the go
ahead and ask for a trade. Try to go somewhere
bro that you canna win.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Hold on matter of fact, what if as great as
he is most of the time, teams listening to trade
talks when it comes to players like this, understand what
the Browns can get for a Miles gard right, yes,
improving boast of theirs their roster for the foresee of
the future.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Understanding that they're not going anywhere. You're not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
They got five sacks and they got the breaks beat
off them. So it clearly it doesn't matter what he does.
You're not any closer to your ultimate goal. With Miles Garrett,
then you would be without him. So I might as
well get pieces that I build, I can fill in
that I believe that's gonna help me get closer. Yes,
I would love to be able to win a championship
with Miles Garrett. But you saw today, you see his impact.
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He's been a Defensive Player of the Year. He's won
the award, but he's in Defensive Player of the Year
contention every single year. And you're no closer to winning
the division. You're no closer to winning a getting into
the playoffs, or winning a playoff game than you would
be without him.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
I have a question too.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
Yes, I hate to throw this out there, and I
don't mean no Chad, y'all stay with me real quick
and tell me what y'all think about this.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Jerry Jones.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Jerry Jones made some phone calls, right, He made some
phone calls down in Las Vegas. Yeah, Birdie told me
he made some phone calls down in Cincinnati. But both
of those teams said, nah, we good. Yeah, you think
about Jerry Jones making a call on down there to
Cleveland and Gold and get ninety five.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yes, it's gonna probably take three first round picks but
you get here, the Cowboys have the capitol, the Eagles
will do it, uh Detroit to do it, you gotta
have somebody that that's that, that would put that, you know,
and think, now here's the thing that's that that's gonna
be tricky about Detroit because Hunts. You're gonna have to
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do something with Hunche this year, right, you gotta do.
You're gonna have to do something with him.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
And could you imagine eight hundreds on one side?
Speaker 1 (48:29):
No, I don't want to bage that man with that offense.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
That ain't that.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
That's not fair, that's not fair. You might well just
ship the guy Damn Lombardi right out there to him
right now?
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Oh for sure? About and if you put him in Dallas,
him on that turf, man, stop playing.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
That's now that's a different maker. That's a different maker.
Because the offense is so good, the offense is so good.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
You're gonna be playing with the leader. He gonna he's
gonna get the rush all the time.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
And that's an impact player that would make your defense
that much better.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
For sure. That's that's absolutely, that's absolutely for certain, O Joe.
But it's just it's just tough. I mean, you know. Yeah,
I just don't know what he thought. And I look,
we told I know why he did it too. Like
you said, there's no more guarantee. I need a contract.
I ain't playing this last year with no guaranteed money.
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I want guaranteed money. I requested the trade. I understand
what I mean in the community. I really love the city. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Oh they came. So we got forty million. We got
one hundred and five hundred and ten million fully guaranteed. Okay,
I'm good. He know they're not gonna win, but he
got guaranteed money.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Yeah, I mean, letst we all know, you know, and
those are outside, I mean.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Those with Let me ask your question, O Joe, before
you go any further. Do you believe if he says
I want to get traded, and it said that my
destination would be the Eagles, I would like to go
to the Eagles, or I got to go to like
to go to Detroit. Do you believe they gave him
a similar contract because I do. Yeah, absolutely, Thank.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
You absolutely for what he's done before he hit thirty
years old.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
He won't be thirty. He won't be thirty until the
twenty ninth of December. Yeah, that man got two months.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Do you know how many says this man's gonna happen
two months? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (50:16):
And see that's why I said they would have been
willing to do it because of what he's already accomplished
and he has thirty right yeah, absolutely, yeah, But listen,
it still might happen. It still might happen because right now,
the Browns, the organization, the GM, the Scouts, the owner.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
I mean, we're really not going anywhere because they're not.
We're not.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
We're not we're not winning with him. So why don't
we get pieces that we can use and continue to
build for the four seable future.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
But here's the thing on Joe. Can they build Nah?
Speaker 4 (50:52):
Yeah, probably maybe Legos exactly, toy Lan, that's what that's
what the that's what they show.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yes, they had a quarterback, but they didn't want him
to be himself. He got injured and he played, He
tried to play through it, and you know, had me
convinced that he couldn't play.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
No, he could play. He just need pieces around him.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
As all as all quarterbacks do.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yes, yes, look at it, when he got pieces around him,
Tada looking looking good. But but and you know. Look
they are when they got high draft picks. But see
you got Miles Garrett. Okay, slam dunk, you got Baker.
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Baker played good for a couple of years, he got injured.
You didn't have the pieces around him, but you got
Denzel Ward. But here's the thing, oh Joe, it's those
second round It's the second through fifth that build your
football team. That's where you make it. M That's the way.
That's the way you build a football team. Yeah, it's
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those pieces. So do we believe Cleveland can feel in
the can fill in the blanks? That's the question. Can
they fill in the blank?
Speaker 3 (52:10):
So, Joe, well, have they been able to fill him
in the past?
Speaker 2 (52:13):
Who knows how long?
Speaker 3 (52:15):
No, there's Janson.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
No, they hadn't had a quarterback since since Bernie Cozark.
We's taking them to the AFC Championship game consistently. Now,
Baker had a couple of good years, but I'm talking
about consistent play for or three four year stretch. It
was Bernie. You know, they at night what was eighty
nineteen eighty when they had the cardiac kids, Brian sich
Ozzie knew some Reggie Rucker.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Those guys.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Yeah, but they haven't. They haven't been that in a while.
You know. They was good and like I said, when
they had Bernie, they had Earnest Boder, Kevin Mack, they
had Ozzie. I think whether Metcalf was there two Metcalf
came in ninety Metcalf was in my draft. Now Metcalf
(53:01):
might have been eighty nine. I think Metcalf might have
been eighty nine. So he was, Yeah, he might have
been there. He was there, man, he was. You had
to see him. Man, that joke will stop on a dime.
Oh Joe with them high knees.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Yeah, yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Cavill like ma, he must have ran track, huh yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
I think he did.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
Yeah, because he was silkie smooth man.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
He exaggerated his running for him as if he was
on the track.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Garrett twenty twenty three Defensive Player of the Year when
he had fourteen sacks the five sacks did they give
him ten for the season with nine games to play.
It'll be tough for players on the losing team to
win postseason awards, but he's gonna be tough to ignore.
Brian Burns is another. I think Brian Burns has ten
or eleven sacks, Garrett eight consecutive season with at least
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ten sacks. He's on pace to shadow his previous high
of sixteen sacks in a season. That's how well he's playing.
But he's gonna go un noticed.
Speaker 7 (54:00):
Yeah, well, listen, if he continued to make noise, continue
to make noise, I think, obviously before the member fourth,
I don't think he's gonna be there.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
No, I don't think they trade him obviously. But let
me tell you this, So Joe, think about this. Do
you know how hard it is to get sacks when
you're getting your ass kicked? Yeah, this man got ten sacks.
This man got five sacks, and they ran the ball
for them, the near two hun of yards on them.
And he's still putting up numbers on that team.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
And that's crazy. I needed I need to talk to
I need to talk to Andrew Barry
Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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But let's get you the game with Today, Lebroncos beat
the Dallas Cowboys by.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
The score of forty four to twenty four.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Cowboys defense reverted back to their old forum, giving up
its longest run of the year, a forty yard touchdown
run by a number one overall draft pick bj Harvick
first round draft pick, not number one first round draft pick,
and Bo Nick's bo tubs Dak Press got through two interceptions,
the number one offense was held in check. The Cowboys
have lost eight straight to the Denver Broncos, tying the
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longest streak to a single opponent in franchise history. I
tried to tell Ocha, said, Ojo man, y'all need't beat us.
Says ninety five were gonna beat Diggle Beach.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
On who was us? Who was us?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm not listen.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm not a part of the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I just felt with him being the number one offense,
George Picking Douerty doing ceedee Lamber's back, you know, Williams
running aways, running the ball. I felt they had a
good chance to win the game today. Now, obviously I
was wrong. That's a good thing about sports. Sometimes you're wrong.
Sometimes you're right. In this case, which which is very
seldom for me.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Is I was wrong.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
And listen, I apologize, you know, for those Broncos fans
that in the chat, congratulations y'all want today?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
How about you? You said you said they But what's
the like, how many times did they play the defense
like the Broncos where they got them guys on the edge,
especially Certain think about it. We beat y'all, We beat
them with the Certain went out drank Greenlock didn't even play.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah he heard it, show it. Yeah he showed did it?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Shall you imagine? Because you know when he was in there,
there was getting Nathan They wouldn't get anything. Y'all.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Y'all played a good game. Both Knicks vow Knicks balled out.
Hey caller Sudden has some really really key catches, some
really key catches, and it got to a point where
the game just got out of reach.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
It got out of reach.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It was out of reach when y'all walked into the
stadium that was out of reach. How many times did
y'all stop us from hold on? Let me go and
look at this that I would have seen. How many
times did y'all actually stop us?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Matter of fact, broad goals?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Okay, they threw it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Interceptions, so y'all stopping them on the first run, and
then it went touchdown, touchdown, punt, touchdown, touchdown in the half,
field goal, touchdown, touchdown punt in the game.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Damn if the.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Broncos turned it over the first possession and then with
touchdown touch I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
We threw them like Sherman went through Atlanta scorch thirst.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Hey, y'all play good.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I'm not gonna lie, man, it's hard hard.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
For we are good. You're talking about we played good.
We got a good team.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, yeah, y'all got a good y'all. Y'all got a
good defense. Y'all got a good defense.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
And the offense it goes as bow Nicks goes, and
both nick troke well offensively, y'all gonna be alright. Then
Bo Knicks had him a day to day. Both Knicks
had him a day to day, and the defense obviously
showed up. Pat went out. I think he heard it.
Probably probably looked like it maybe a pinch nerve or something,
a pinch nerve. Other than that, I think he gonna
be right. But but the boys on the edge, boy, but.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh yeah, Cooper and Bonnito Dallan.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
A man, listen, hey, but them joke is nice.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh yeah, hey, we get after you now.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Uh. Bow Knicks was nineteen or twenty nine, two forty seven,
four touchdowns, one interception. JK. Dobbins had fifteen rushes one
hundred and eleven yards. R J had h I said,
BJ RJ. Harvey had seven for forty six. He had
two touchdowns, and then Franklin six for eighty nine, two touchdowns,
Courtland Sutton four for sixty seven, Pat Bryant two for
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forty one touchdown. R J.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Harvey had one had one catch for five yards.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Of a touchdown. Well, they got a let you see
what dark number was, because then you know what we
do is that if you got if you got hopes
of winning the MVP, of winning some type of award,
come to mind, how you're gonna leave without it? Nineteen
to thirty one, two interceptions. Remember the last three dark
last three games he had thrown three touches, three touchdowns
(04:25):
and no interceptions. Got we got tired of hearing that
and ty to hear it.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
H y'all can talk. Y'all won the game. Obviously we
understand how good different defense is.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Did you understand that? Because why would you pick him?
Clearly you didn't understand that. Why did I pick the
Cowboys win? Yes?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Because the offense has been on fire the past three
weeks straight. Hold on, So you saying the Broncos or
somebody is the Broncos a team that that that that
that team's supposed to fear. Are you saying that the
defense is like the two thousand Ravens.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
No, No, it's not. No.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
They went to Philly with down eighteen to three and
winning the ball game. Remember last week? Hold on thirty
three points sitting the four quarter?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And what's the key words that I just said?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
As boat Knicks goes, that is how the Broncos will
go now normally, huh.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
That's normally how the team go. The quarterback? What about
your how your team? We ain't talking about your team
just yet. Uh, Dak Press got through two interceptions the
number one offense. Hold On, let me see how many
yards the number one offense that you you've been hyping about.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Oh they've been playing. Let me see what the numbers are.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I'm trying to That's what I was looking for.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I was sitting here trying to find the goddamn stats.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You ain't trying to find new things. You ain't looking
hard enough.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Got it up there, No cowboys, they ain't even have
two three hundred yards of offense averaging folks something how
many points of the game. And they got a little
cheap touched down at the end.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, but this is what you have to understand.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
This is what you have to understand.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Listen, even a.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Squirrel getting not every blue movie every so often, they're
the number one offense for a reason. Sometimes. Listen, this
is a trap game. This is a trap games. You
know what we're gonna You know what we're gonna let
We're gonna let the Broncos have this one the bill,
their confidence up a little bit, make them feel like
they're really doing something, and the next week, what's gonna happen.
It's gonna be right back to the old Oh man, Well,
(06:21):
this is what happened, and this is why we didn't win.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
We don't do that we don't do that. We don't
play what we do. What we don't do is play
down in the competition. The standard is a standard. With
the Broncos three times Super Bowl champs, that's who and
what we are.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Oh okay, so the standard is the standard, right, is
a standard? Okay, okay, just a matter of fact. Let
me let me write that down. The standard is a standard.
I want to make sure. I want to make sure
when we come back next Sunday, I want to make
sure the standard is still the standard. After that game,
it will be my man, my kids and took my
(06:55):
pen and paper. Man, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And I can't believe you you actually, Oh yo, now chat,
we're the last time y'all know cho to go on
Sunday without tweet.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I ain't tweeted that. Oh come on, Internet wasn't working.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I bet it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, not tweeting it like cornflate without the milk. You
know what I'm saying. So they just go together Sunday.
Oh your tweet.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
But this is this is, this is the point you
have to understand. I said. I tweeted it out.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Obviously I was using my neighbor's WiFi I'm using my
neighbor's WiFi right now.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
That's why I was able to come on Nightcap.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I tweeted you back and said I wasn't gonna be
able to come on the show tonight because my WiFi
was down. The fiber optive system that they used all
the wire over here, somebody grass.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
They cut a line. So when they cut the line,
like boom, and how do.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
You cut grass?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
How you hide the line on top of the ground like, no,
they went underneath.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
They went underneath.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I don't know what cut grass under these who got
a bunker that got girl grass.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Under the ground?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Hey, listen, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That's our awful suspicions. Done this sound suspicious to you?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Check it sounds suspicious to me when I heard it,
sounds suspicious to me. So I'm using my neighbor's WiFi
right now, so I might go in and out, but
just know I did everything I can to make sure
I'm making tonight.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
That's why.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Uh, hey, hey, I have my camera. Look because my camera,
my camera like kind of kind.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Of is good.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Dad, look good. It's you okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I mean you put your Hey.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I was three and oh this weekend, you're three and
over Hood Ravens one, Broncos one.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
But who is the third?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Loss?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Savannah Stoh I spoil of Savannah State one? Homecoming?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
We hold on? Who is the third?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Who? I mean? You you Broncos one, Ravens one two
Savannah State one.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
That's three Bengals loss.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
For it out?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Oh here you come on?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Man?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Wait a minute, hey you you he hear? And how
high the Dolphins won?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
To day? Whoa? Whoa?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Whoa the Dolphins one?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
To day?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I'm saying all the teams that I played for that
Shannon Sharp played for one, the Guppies. You never played
for the Guppies.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute. It
doesn't matter who I played for. It is where I'm from.
That's my home team. That's all I knew.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
That's what I grew up knowing until I got drafted.
So therefore I'm a Doll fan.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
First, before I knew thinking about it, before I knew
anything about the Cincinnati Bengals ar the dlphin Guppies since
nineteen sixty eight, and we won today.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Did you see what we did? Tatlana, let's talk out.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
I saw that, Okay, Okay, let's put some respect on
matter of fact.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Hold on, Chad, he hurt about that chat, He hurt
about that.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Let's put some respect on my quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh, Joe, just the only one I see right here?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Hey, hey, hey, put some respect on my quarterback too,
hey were Hey.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Listen, we would do it all. We would do it
all that.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
You know that that tongue glashing and saying that you
know it was it was up and he needed to
go with they need to fire Mike McDaniels. And this,
even even I was a culprit. Even even me, someone
who's always been nice and.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
And and and and and trying to find excuse for people,
even I was critical. But after the day two of
the future, two of the future of the Miami Dogs
and franchise, now they can clean house everywhere else.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
But as long as Uno is there, we're gonna be
all right. Based on what I saw today. Now, let's talk.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Bubble gum, bubble gum popp bubble gum bubble gum pop pop.
My team, my team on top, your team, your team
on flop?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Yay, you just made that up?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Just now? That was the chier we had our cheerlead.
Did that were in high school all that. Now, you know,
Kyle was, we ain't bad and we ain't cocky. Yeah,
ride old you lack of carver sockety, but we hey,
we were bad. Oh Joe, oh joe. Steelers turned them
(11:19):
all over in the second half once fumble by game Well,
Rogers was sacked twice.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
The pressure was relentless all night.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
They flushed him out of the pocket and the Jordan
Love had three hundred and sixty passing yards as they
take down as they take down the the Steelers thirty
five twenty five, as you can see, three hundred and
sixty passing yards, three touchdowns knowing exceptions, ninety four rush yards.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It was a complete team effort.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Every you know, Brandon McMahon's miss two field goes that
long win that fifty seven, maybe just the tad out
of his range, but there's no excuse for the other one.
He just he shanked that thing really really bad. Yeah, Ojo,
what did you like about what you saw from the
green Back Packers to night listen?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
The Packers good.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Obviously, I thought that the first half, I thought the
Steers was gonna run away with the game. I honestly
thought the Steers we gonna run away with the game
the way it was a defensive game in the first half.
The Packers, I don't know what the hell coach told
him at halftime, came out on goddamn fire, not the defense,
but hell on goddamn offense too. They scored on the
first five possessions in the second half. I'm not sure
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what happened to the Steelers defense, but you got people
on that back end that you paid really good money,
top quality money, simply to be able to stop the
goddamn pass.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
They got Tucker Craft out there looking like he.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Got damn it was National tight end Day, don't yo, huh?
It was National tight end Day? Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
But that's what today was.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Tucker Craft showed out the night on National tight Ends Day.
He had one hell of a goddamn day. George Love
deal with Jordan Love does. But again, once they came
out of halftime and the Steelers couldn't do anything defense
to stop them, it was gonna be a long night.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
The first half, the first half is good. That was
some good football on both sides of ball from both teams.
And I mean, listen, the Packers came out at the
half and stealer couldn't do nothing with them on offense.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
They couldn't stop him at all. Yeah, Jordan Love twenty
nine to thirty seven, three sixty three touchdowns, no interceptions,
no sacks, no turnovers. Josh Jacob had the only rush touchdown,
as you mentioned, Ojo Tucker Carson seven for one, two touchdown.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
He was sensational.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Christian Watson his first game back, four for eighty five,
Romeo Dobbs had three for forty four, Malik Heath had
three for twenty nine. They played really well, And I
agree with you, O Joe. The Steelers got you know
you they got you. Look at what they have defensively.
They make the trade for Jay Ram, They have Joey
Porter Junior, who was the second round draft pick, a
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lockdown guy. You look at high Smith and you look
at Why and you look at Cam Hayward. Yeah, but
can't you can't let them go up and down the
field like that.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You can't, not, not, not in your building.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I can't, and not for that kind of talent. We're
not We're not just talking about doing anybody. We talked
about some of the some of the greats that have
played this game for a long time. That that bring
your veteran presence where things that you want to do
on defense, it's much easier because of the level of
skill and talent that they do have. But it just
didn't look like it just didn't look.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Like that to night.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You didn't look like that. We just did look like that.
Come on, man, it didn't look like that. I'm agree
with you. It didn't look like that tonight. That all
that talent that they have defensively, you don't. You don't.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
You don't have to do men on the jacket, We
get that jacket.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
That's from Sorry, hey, Chad, Am I doing too much?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Chad.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I want y'all to be honest with me. Is there
too much? Too much?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I know? The one thing about the chat. Let me
see what the chat say, cause the chat gonna be
honest with me. The chat always you do it too much?
You know, slow down a stall and I don't do
oh Joe like that chat. I know y'all gonna be
honest with me, so y'all could be honest. Is this
too much? If the blazer, the uh, the phone figure,
the T shirt, it's that too much chat?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You feel like you feeling good tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Oh, I try to tell you about this. I told
you that it was gonna happen good. I told you
we can go do something. But I told you, I said,
we're gonna do something bad to the Cowboys, I said,
and the jet's gonna get y'all. I try to tell
you that, but you ain't wanna, You ain't.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Want to hear me. I'll just go ahead and say
this down.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Right here, listen. You didn't know this just was gonna
do that today.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I did. But nobody, no, nobody.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Expected to justice when that got did nobody did. No,
you didn't know. You didn't because I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Sure man gonna put it. He won't put it back
in the half bad?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Come on, bro, it's all it's all good, It's all good.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I was, Oh, Joe, I was surprised with how well
Green Bay moved the ball in the second half. Concerned
it now, they have a lot of drive that they
stalled themselves out in the first half. Uh, and then
they missed two They missed two field goals. Like I said,
maybe the fifty seven yards of fifty seven yards was
a tad outside of McManus's rang, but that second half
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was a complete domination by the UH, by the UH,
the packers. They look good that front they got after
Michael Parson, they were getting chipped. And I told you,
I said, the best the beneficiary of Michael Parson's coming
over there is gonna be Rashaun Gary Gary, because you're
gonna have to look and after he had that three
sack performers last week, he had four, but they took
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it back because of it, he'll drop tackle. I knew
that they were gonna play extra close attention to a
Micah and so now Rashaan Garrett is getting a lot
of one on one. So I already knew that the
beneficiary of this trade was gonna be Rashan Gary. And
so now you got two guys streaming up there outside
UH that can that can rush with power, that can
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rush with the speed. They do a great job of
getting off the ball, and they were relentless last tonight.
Now I don't think the secondary is that great. So
they're gonna have to get off the ball like that.
They're gonna have to apply pressure o jo because they
don't have shut down guys in the secondary. They have
they have Okay, they have decent guys, but as long
as they can continue to generate the pressure that they're generating,
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they're gonna be just fine. They're gonna be just fine
playing at the way they played. But I thought offensively
the Jordan Love man, if you didn't know Aaron Rodgers
actually played there, I mean, look at the throws that
he's making off his back book, looking at if he's
throwing a cross his body, his manner hysms remind you.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And I'm not saying he's gonna be Aaron Rodgers. I'm
not say he was gonna win for m v P.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
But I'm saying if you look at a lot of
his amounner rhythms, and we look at a lot of armslocks,
the way he throws the ball off his wrong foot,
off his back foot.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Quick quick quick release.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah yeah, the side armed.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, he's really good.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You could tell.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
You can tell he's obviously studied.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Erring, studied and watched, yes, and studying.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Watching some of the stuff he's doing. He wasn't doing
it in college. It has nowhere, so obviously. This is
this is why I said at times, sometimes it's good
for quarterbacks when you're coming as a rookie, depending on
who the starter is to sit back, relax, take it
all in, and learn from whoever it is that's sitting
in front of you. And then when your time comes,
then you look exactly how Jordan Loves looks.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Some of the best quarterbacks didn't start. I mean you
look at obviously Brady didn't start, Betew Mahomes didn't start. Uh,
Josh Allen. I don't think Josh Allen started his first game.
We could look that up. I don't think he did.
I think but once he got in, yeah, he didn't
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look back. But I thought the Packer's gonna look that's
the Packers. That's a tough division. Well, I think it's
a two team division. The quarterback play. The quarterback play
in Minnesota and the Chicago is not as nearly, is
not as consistent as it needs to be to be
able to keep up with those other two teams, Detroit
and green Bay. I think Green Bay and Detroit obviously
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are the class of that division. I just don't think
Carson Wentz and Caleb Williams give you consistent play weekend
and week out, down in and down out to really
challenge these teams. I look, it's intra division, so anything
can happen. We know, anything can happen within a division,
but me, I just don't think the quarterback play is
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nearly consistent enough. But I was very impressed with the
Packers going on the road, knowing how much of this
game meant to Aaron Rodgers. And normally when you play
a team, ojo that you played there, your team, your team,
he comes back and you know, they pick you up.
They want to they want to make sure you win
that game. I ain't even know I had this T
shirt on. Up on here, oh chuck, hold on, hold on,
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get with.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Jacket do oh hey you hot it now?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah? Hot down here? Yeah, hold on loosten.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
But look look, hey y'all see the inside y'all like
the inside?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
What what that said? What the man? Broncos them all.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
The Broncos logos, all the logos. This was the first
logo they had, like in the sixties. Yeah, this was
I think this was like sixty eight. This was the
first one. This was the second one, the third one.
This is the fourth one, you know, and you know
little something that the Broncos. This is what they give
the ring of fame. Arno rees all thrilled, all four
of the logos, orange jacket y'all get one of these jokes.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Huh, Yeah, I got I got one. Yeah, listen, listen.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You got you got the Bronco logos.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Mine got, you know, all the stripes, all the tiger stripes.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I ain't see that jacket. I ain't seen you with
no jacket old when you went in the Ring of
Fame two years ago.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah, we had that all. We got, all got the
same jackets.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I ain't see it. I'm just saying I didn't see it.
Oht Yoe, I.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Got anything over there, I got anything else over there.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I'm aware, I'm aware.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Take it.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I think I got went in there.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Take it out night you You ain't got to show it.
No more stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
We know, we know, y'all.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I got a few things.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
We know.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
We know y'all won today.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
We know I got this close up. Damn yeah, oh Joe,
see see my bowling bag.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
What's that bowling bag? You ain't even bowl?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Now that now I don't bowl. Let me hold on, hey, toy,
you got to keep the shoes in here. I better
I never catch you at the alley. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, Hey, listen, I bowled too way you're better.
Who shooting?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Miss damn my bowling bag? So what would assume?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
And them shoes brand new?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Still you're on bowl, man, don't do that. Don't do
that on your don't do that. Don't do that one
thing about it.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
You're not a bowler.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You might be a lot of things. You how you
gonna bowl? And your hips don't work?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
The work? You're fine.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I just said they worked five.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And you know when you bowl, you got to get low.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
They showed it. They know they know what's that? That's
eight pound ball? I big it look like that though.
I got a couple of bowl in there, y'all. O
water away William Julie.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Hey, you know you can't bowl you you walk around
with eight pound balls?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Buddy, ain't no eight pound ball sixteen pound balls?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Huh Now you ain't no bowler man.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
That ain't like you. Man, talk to me.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I'm not trying to be no heed. What's your best, sco?
What's your best? Go on to add it?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I told you I think my best go like two twenty.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
That's it, man.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
My daughter bowled to twenty. I beat you, nah, now
you know.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
What I hey?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Uh like that uh.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Nathan Peterman started Week one of twenty eighteen versus the
Ravens before Josh Allen came into the third quarter and
he didn't look back.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
So oh, hey, Nathan Peterman was bad.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Oh yeah, he was a verb. I mean Peter, Hey,
they're out there, Petering. Was that the game he threw
like five picks? Or was he in Sandy?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Was was he at the Chargers when he had that
terrible game?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Ash?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Look, because he had one game he had like five.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Picks a fumble?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah he was.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
He was good and terrible.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
The Chiefs use a dominant second half to pull away
from the Commanders by this of twenty eight to seven.
Patrick Mahomes tosses three touchdown passes in the second half,
as you can see the numbers right there, and they
win comfortably twenty eight to seven. You know, watching this
game on you, I just thought the Commander squad the
two many opportunities in the first half. They had an
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opportunity and the ball hits Deboy in the face and
Mike Dana intercepts it and they come up short on
the fourth down where he tosses out of bounds. But
I thought they had some really good opportunities in the
first half to really apply some pressure. They were doing
a great job of getting the ball lot quick. I
thought Marcus Mariota did a great job, you know, and
Cliff Kingsbury did a great job of putting them in
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situations where they could get the ball lot quick. A
lot of misdirections use Mariota's legs a little bit. But
when you'd have when you're on the road and you
don't take advantage of opportunities when they're presented for you.
When a team gets their rhythm, especially at their home,
they're probably gonna pull away for you from you and
you know you saw are very uncharacteristic some turnovers. You
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notice that rather was a terrible route by Hollywood Brown.
Oh Jo, how are you in the slot? You already
got leverage on him. How do you take two steps
and stop them? Start looking back for the ball? You
know you hey, even my home went to the sideline
and your role and you notice he disappeared after that, Didney?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Oh yeah, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
It all comes down to being sharp, being sharp and precise.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Regardless of what route you're running, you always have to
be stay friendly to your quarterback. And understand, you know
how did not only get open but continue to create
separation to be able to catch any and everything. You know,
for for Hollywood, as long as he been playing the
game of football, you know better than that.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, you can't run the right. You got to put
pressure on the dB. You got to make him think
you're going deep. So who's gonna want to get on
top of you? If you start back? If you take
three steps and you looking for the ball, you don't
run no got route like that? Who runs a goat
route like that?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
You're not You're not fooling nobody. You're not gonna fool nobody.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Like that at all.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
And uh, you know, I'm sure that was a situation.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
And then he hits trap in the head with the
ball and it pops up in there and be wags
end up picking that off. But I thought once he
got it going, guys made play for him. He did
a great job of using his legs, sometimes to run
his way out of harm's way and sometimes to buy time.
You see him hit Rashid Rice on a couple of
plays like that he found for a touchdown, the running
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back for a touchdown. You see him travel, He hit
travel a couple of times after using his legs to
buy time. But I thought overall, once they got it
going in the second half, they had drives of what
ninety plus yards, eighty yards, seventy yards, and it really
broke the ball game open because for the first half
O Joe, I thought the Commanders defense did a great
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job on him.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Listen, they did a phenomenal job on him.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
This and whether they plays on the whether they played man,
they added pressure, and they played a really good game.
The one thing I don't like about the first half
of the Commanders and the Chiefs one of the few
teams that when they turned the ball over man after
the capitalize.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You got to make them pay.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
You got you got to make them pay because at
whatever point the Chiefs catch that momentum and find their rhythm,
you want to stress that lead as far as possible
to make the game a little easier, make it a
little more difficult for them to almost into a point
in a since on. You got to make them damn
there one dimensional where they don't have a throw to
get themself back in the game.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
But the game was too close once they caught fire.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
And then my home started processing that information a little
faster or y'all plans.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
On, Well, hell, I'm finna be surgical.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, we'll find every hole because every time there's a
defensive play called, there's always a whole in my home.
Knew exactly where to go with the ball every goddamn time.
Those players with the defense actually called the right play. Okay,
you got me this time, but I'm gonna beat you
with my legs. Then he go beat you with the guy.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
But it's goddamn legs, so.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I think, and you're right about that, especially when you're
on the road. When you're on the road, you try
to keep the crowd out of the game as long
as you possibly can, as long as they're not cheering,
as long as they're sitting on the hand at the
edge of their sheet and they're nervous you winning. But
when you get those opportunities, because the momentum is gonna swing.
If you look at the first half, the Commanders had
the momentum. Now what happened is that in the second
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half the Chiefs got the momentum. And when they got
the momentum, it went fourteenth, it went fourteen seven, twenty
one seven, twenty eight seven, and the blinkoler night and
the game's over. Hey it was.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
It was a rap and they were where they scored
what three straight.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Possessions possessions and then they ran the ball, you know,
ran the clock down, laying the box or they could
have let you. I'm surprised that didn't, you know, but
I just thought they did a great job. They were
really really bounced to show you. Look at it. Targets.
Travis Kelson had eight targets. Recei Rice had nine targets.
They've be your word. They had seven targets, and you
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had six catches, nine catches, five catches, so you saw
what they were doing. He bought time and found juju
on a couple of routes. He found bout time with
his legs and found a Kareem hunt in the m
zone with his legs. He's done a great job. As
he's gotten older, he's doing more and more with his legs.
He will run, but he's really looking to buy time
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and hope somebody comes open. And that's what makes him
so dangerous. You don't want to bless him because he
will come out of it. He will jump out the
window on you and take off running. But he will
but he's also looking. He's constantly trying to process this information.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Can I throw this.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Ball over their head? Is there a gap somewhere I
can fit this ball in to get me ten fifteen,
twenty yards down the field and pick up a first down.
But I thought they ran the ball. Well, you look
at Kareem Hunt and Isaiah Picecko. Is what they did
running the football. Twelve carries fifty eight yards, nine carries
forty yards. Mahomes had four carries for thirty yards. Thirty
rush attempts one hundred and forty eight yards, so basically
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almost five yards of carry.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
That's good enough to win. Very ballanced.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Mahomes had two hundred and ninety nine yards passing, three touchdowns,
two interceptions.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
He was sacked three.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I thought they did it. I thought Martin did a
great job of putting pressure on him. They did a
great job of forcing it out of the pockets. But
you got when you get there, you got to get
him on the ground. I don't know what that last sex,
I don't know what he was.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
He saw.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Mahomes gave himself up and then you're still gonna throw
him down right there in front of the referee and
you don't think he's gonna call it, he's gonna throw
a flag.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
That's frustration, that's all. That's all frustration. That's all frustation
at that point. And y'all obviously, okay, I can't hit.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Him all game.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
We haven't been able to get to him all games.
He's been getting out of the pocket, extending plays. You
know what, I finally got a whole leve him. I'm
gonna give him a little extra, give that extra just
to let him know I'm here. And it didn't matter
at that point.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
No, And when you look at Locho, I think they
didn't run the ball nearly as much as they needed to,
because now all of a sudden, the pressure started to
get into Merrick Mariota. He had eight rushes twenty eight yards.
Cosky Merrit had nine for twenty five yards. That's not enough.
And it looks like Chlorin by of Nick that growing
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to that hamstring again because he ended up coming out.
I thought he made some great plays. Hell. I thought
Debo was a catch right there at the pylon, and
then I was looking at him like, man, that's a
catch by McLaurin in the end zone. That was a touchdown.
Now I don't necessarily know. If I was an official OHO,
I would have overruled because I couldn't see that right leg.
The inside leg did it hit down out of bounds?
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He did get the elbow down, and you look at
the left leg. The left leg didn't come down, But
where was that right leg. There was never a clear
view of where I could see what is right what
is the right leg was doing. So I probably wouldn't
have overruted it. But even in real time, I thought
that was Those were catches with Devo and McLaurin.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
But you know, A that was a situation.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I'm sure they said, oh, that's the cheese getting home cooking,
the chiefs getting home cooking.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Wait listen, I'm not I'm not saying the rest of cheating,
but they was cooking.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I think the thing is ojoe. If you go back
and look at it, A lot of them were out
of position, like that catch on the sideline. There were
really no officials right there in the vicinity, so you
got to be in better position. Now, they were looking
at McLaurin when he was in the end zone and
they're trying to see but you want to get there
as close as you possibly can, because you got a
really hard job. Is his feet and does he hold
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on to the ball? If I look at where he
catches the ball, I can't pay attention to his feet.
So they really have a hard job. And that's really
the job of two people. That's why you always see him.
Check what did you get? Was he out of bounds
back there? Naw, he didn't step out. Okay, what he
touched the pilin is good. So that is a two
man job. But the guys got to be in position.
The guys, the women, and the men. They need to
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be in better position to make sure they're on top
of those calls so they can get it right. But
it's a tough situation and it's only gonna get worse
since the implement of gambling. And what we're starting to
find out now people are going to now is really
gonna ratchet up. It's really going to ramp up and say, see,
I told you I can do it all along.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Man, you can't fool me.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
High Team played like this one week and then the
next week they act like they ain't never seen foot
or ball.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, and this is a funny thing about it. Now
Now people can say what they want to say. You
can say the ref cheating, you can say that they didn't.
But you understand when you ever have a quarterback, when
you have a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, it gives you
a favorable chance to win any match, yes, chance to win,
to win any game. Obviously, if there was some turnovers
early in this game, the commanded what they needed to
do to capitalize on those turnovers, and you saw what happened.
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And it's funny how the conversation about the Kansas City
to have kicked. The conversation about the Kansas City Chiefs
had changed as the weeks have gone on. First they
washed they're not the same as they used to be,
the receiver of the plan bad. In the first two
weeks they started owing two which they haven't they haven't
done before, to now looking like the Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Chiefs of Bowl. And it was only a matter of time.
It was only a matter of time for players getting
back healthy, uh.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Rasiet Rice coming off the suspension, Hollywood Brown being in,
Travis Kelcey actually getting back to form, and then with them,
ay now they hitting on all cylators and we still
probably even had we still haven't even seen probably the
best Kandids City Chiefs team we can see just yet.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I'm just trying to figure out what happened to Taekwon Thornton.
How does the guy be that involved? And I understand
Rashi Rice coming back, I get that, O Joe, But
when a guy puts up that kind of numbers, you've
got to find a way to get him on the field.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
They got so many options, man, Look.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
It's hard for you to convince me to Hollywood Brown
is better than Taekwan Thornton based on what we've seen
this year. Yeah, I'm not saying what he was when
he was in Baltimore or what the year that he
had in Arizona. I'm talking about right now, based on
what you saw Hollywood. Hollywood Brown was in there, and
Taye Kwon Thornton was in there when Rashi Rice wasn't twy,
tayk Tae Kwon Thornton was their best receiver.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
He was maybe making some plays, he was making catches
you especially dep balls was needed and it mattered most
and I knew, I knew they were going to play
like this.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I understand.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
So that that's why when we had him on the
show and I said, listen once that door opens for you.
Make sure you put your foot in their cross it
and close the door behind you. Because this is the
type of game that they play when it comes to business,
when it comes to those that have already been paid,
those who were making top dollar, they gonna see the
field first.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I get that with Shei Rice. I get that with
Roschie Rice because he is their best receiver. Oh Joe,
we saw the maturation when he came in as a
rookie and he got better and better and better and better,
and as the year he was clear cut he was
the number one receiver. Obviously, had I had some issues.
I think he got nicked and he got that situation,
got himself off Feeld, got that.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Behind him, got that issue resolved. But I just I'm
looking at that. Damn.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
You mean to tell me this man can't get on
the field and get ten plays. He can't get one target,
he can't get two targets. Now show after doing what
he's done in the absence of for she Rice. Look,
we're not trying to start no conflict. But I think
everybody in Kansas City, and I think people that watched
the game, follow.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
The game, study the game. You're like, hold on how
does a man go from playing that well to not.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Even getting in the game, barely getting in the game,
not getting any targets.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
In a sense, I'm not even upset, And since I'm
not even upset because I understand the doors with the
way he played when everyone else was out, when Hollywood
Bride wasn't there, When when Hollywood was there, No, no, no,
when he when he wasn't there Hollywood, Hollywood wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yet he was hurt?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Where were they at? Not this year?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
What wasn't he her?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Early on when Taekwan kept making making all those players
make it ok Hollywood, Xavier rights, XAVI, You're worthy and.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
And and and Taekwan, No, no, somebody somebody was missing.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Somebody was missing from the equation but missing okay either
either either way, either way Taekwon thought was was arguably
easily based on what we were seeing.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yes, that's that's That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
But this is the only thing.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
This is the thing I like is you've already put
it on film, now, you already put it on the field.
What you can't do when you're actually put in a
position to make those players, So that door and the
opportunity to play somewhere else where. They will probably use
him and his skill set that he does have. With
that kind of speed, it's gonna pay off.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
It just might.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
And it's not gonna pay off where he is now
because obviously they don't appreciate we was able to do
because you have too many other options.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
You got too many other options. And maybe maybe it's
a situation, don't you know, Maybe he's nicked. Maybe there's
something going on that you do. And I don't know
about a scenarios out there brought down You know that.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
You know the game, and folks play, you know the game.
They't play.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Hold on, Hey, I'm you know, I'm sitting there. I
gotta I gotta, I gotta grab a chair. I'm sitting
here on my suitcase. And look what I'm sitting there.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
You heard me? Love, yeah, love, have mercy.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
It's hurt my butt.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, see yeah, think about it. Oo, Xavier, you're worthy
was injured and now Hollywood was there.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Okay, that's what that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
That's what I knew.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
It was one of them. I knew it was one
of them.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I just so, yeah it was. That's that's but Taekwan, but.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
He and maybe it's a situation oo where he played
the same position as Worthy Hollywood played plays a different
position because you know you got two speed guys. So
maybe that's the situation. But I was I was driving.
I was trying to figure out, like with damn, how
(38:32):
he go from being so productive to damn there he
damned there inactive.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I've seen it so many times.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I've seen it so many times, which is why I
don't want to say the wrong thing because they are winning.
But when when you have when you have a team
like that where they can they can, they can plug
and play different players in different positions, and because you
have Patrick Mahomes, it's going to always work regards to
who you put out there.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
It's hard to argue the fact on real hard to
argue the fact.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And then Juju is so versatile. Juju blocked, Juju make
the tough catches over the middle. He understands, uh, he
doesn't miss hot reads. Uh. And that situation where they
run the fake I'm trying to figure out. I'm like, Noah,
why would you run a seven rock? Bro?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
You just trying to score a touchdown?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Don't run that? And the ain't gonna get that up
the field.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I'm like, guys, guys, do y'all.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I don't get it. I ain't trying. I'm trying. If
I got the defense food and the linebacker is trailing
me from the inside, I'm not trying to give a
twenty yard completion. I'm trying to get a forty yard touchdown.
And you see how Mahomes threw the ball. Mahme threw
him up the field because Bee Wags was trailing on
the inside. He was like he wanted to catch it
(39:48):
and get tackled out of bounds. No, bro, take that
up the field.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Maybe maybe maybe it was set up like that. Maybe
it was a to be a twenty yard completion and
not a forty yard two touchdown. But that that's like,
you know, the way we ran around, like, look, if
somebody's over the top, you're flatted off. If somebody's in
the trail, you keep it high, right. Yeah. Patriots beat
(40:18):
the Browns thirty two to thirteen. One week after finally
at clips in seventeen points. Cleveland offense reverted to its
old form, mustering two touchdown Gabriel also couldn't take care
of the ball. One thing coaches has consistently praised him for,
it's taking care of football.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
But guess what oo two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Shudor Sanders was an active because of a back injury,
but calls but the calls for him to play will
only grow louder if the Browns continued. Oh the Browns
by Weeks this week, even though Kevin Stefanski said after
the game that Gabriel will remain the team starter for now.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Uh they goddamn Drake May. Boy looking hey, listen, Drake
May and Josh McDaniels. Now I'm not saying I'm not
I'm just saying the start that they're off to right now.
God damn Patriots is six and two on yes, but
(41:14):
them boys sixty two and they dealing. Boy Drake May
is dealing. They running, They running the ball, they throwing
the ball. And he's not just as opposed to flak
Oh going to Uno, you know all the time, nineteen times,
Man Drake May getting everybody, Man, listen, you get you
get a ball, You get a ball, you get the ball.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Boute Stefan Diggs, many.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Of Henry and everybody eating yes, everybody eats, and it's
a good thing.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
It is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Obviously you're playing the Browns, and Browns have a very
good deepens. But there's only so much they can do.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
There's only so much holding a team, holding the team
down that they can do with your offense is sputtering,
and the offense is too too much. You know, you
you dead the water and then you've got damn defenses
act on the goddamn field. Damn they all got long
all night long.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah it is, and I'm looking. Patriots had the ball
for over thirty six minutes, so that means that means
the Browns only had it for twenty three and a
whole lot you can do in twenty three minutes with
the football at all you got. If you're gonna have
the ball twenty three minutes, you got.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
To be explosive, efficient and explosive.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Kansas City. Kansas City didn't have it because you had
Tyreek taking the top off and too. In one play,
two plays, forty seconds, they don't score a touchdown, so
you could understand that they don't have that level of explosiveness.
So when you have the ball twenty three minutes, that
means somebody else possessing it, and they're gonna put foot seeding.
(42:52):
Miles Garrett had a career high five sacks today, but
became the first player in NFL history to do that
and lose by more than three points. With his five sacks,
Garrett passed Reggie White for the most sacks by a
player one hundred and eight point five before turning thirty
since sacks became an official stats in nineteen eighty two.
Despite personal success, Miles Garrett, Miles was caught being visibly
(43:15):
upset with offensive woes on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Oh,
Joe after the game, and you were hot.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Wow, it doesn't get any easier, he tweet.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
You asked me, so, how you feel out here?
Speaker 2 (43:29):
For six? A lost diminishguard autist. I would throw the
whole performance away for a win, o Jo. Maybe I
want you to explain it to me as if I
was seven. So you're really gonna have to get down
to it. Explain it to me as if I was
a kid.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
I got you to talk to me.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I want you to tell me. What was Miles Garrett thinking,
what's gonna happen? Based on everything that has happened since
he's been there. What has he seen from this organization
that convinced him they were going to get it right?
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Well, uh uh, you have to understand as a seven
year old that you are. I'm going to explain it
to you in the best way possible. Miles Garrett understood,
there is no more guaranteed money on my contract.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
So what am I going to do?
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Because I want a huge lump sum and I want
to raise I'm going to throw a fit. I'm going
to throw a fit in wanting to get out to
demand the trade, to force their hand. Understanding there is
no one else, there is no one else that can
pull this off outside of me.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
As great as I am.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
They don't want to lose the asset that is me
because my value is at its highest peak right now.
And understanding I can get what I want by doing this.
This was very strategic. It was well thought out. He
understood what the Browns were. They weren't changing in one year,
They're not been changing two years. Hell, they ain't changed
in the past thirty five years. So no, it was
(45:00):
you know, it's about games, about getting your back, getting
your money. That's that's what it's about Yeah, that's around it. Now,
when you get it from the media, you know, you
get it from the media, of course you're gonna see
all the right things.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Of course. Come on, now, that's a part of the game.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
You're right, it's a part of the game.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
And that's that's, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
I agree with everything that you said.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I think Miles Garrett is an outstanding football player. He
seems like a here, upstanding young man. But at this
point I don't feel sorry for him. I can't.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
This is what you this is what you signed up for.
Ojo the days of Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
You've been back in the day, Oh yo, be like okay,
the military, unders say, I'm looking for a few good men.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Back then you go train a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
You're like, hey, I would get that g I Bill,
I would get college played for Now you sign up
for the military, You're going to fight. Yeah, they got
all this stuff going on around the world.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
You going everywhere.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah, it ain't no, it ain't no just no no no.
Video games. You go a couple of weekends and you
I feel duties that you go.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Do no no no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
All that all that trying to join all that, trying
to join it. Go get your hell cat and get
you a challenger. Oh you're gonna are You're gonna earn that.
Oh you earned that, You're gonna earn. You're gonna earn that.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
With everything that's going on around the world, it's a
different time. I can't as much as I want to.
I don't feel empathy. I don't feel I don't feel
compassion for Miles because this is what he signed up for.
He Look, this is what he signed up for. Okay,
now that you got your money, you see the go
ahead and ask for a trade. Try to go somewhere
bro that you canna win.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Hold on matter of fact, what if as great as
he is most of the time, teams listening to trade
talks when it comes to players like this, understand what
the Browns can get for a Miles gard right, yes,
improving boast of theirs their roster for the foresee of
the future.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Understanding that they're not going anywhere. You're not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
They got five sacks and they got the breaks beat
off them. So it clearly it doesn't matter what he does.
You're not any closer to your ultimate goal. With Miles Garrett,
then you would be without him. So I might as
well get pieces that I build, I can fill in
that I believe that's gonna help me get closer. Yes,
I would love to be able to win a championship
with Miles Garrett. But you saw today, you see his impact.
(47:14):
He's been a Defensive Player of the Year. He's won
the award, but he's in Defensive Player of the Year
contention every single year. And you're no closer to winning
the division. You're no closer to winning a getting into
the playoffs, or winning a playoff game than you would
be without him.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
I have a question too.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
Yes, I hate to throw this out there, and I
don't mean no Chad, y'all stay with me real quick
and tell me what y'all think about this.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Jerry Jones.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Jerry Jones made some phone calls, right, He made some
phone calls down in Las Vegas. Yeah, Birdie told me
he made some phone calls down in Cincinnati. But both
of those teams said, nah, we good. Yeah, you think
about Jerry Jones making a call on down there to
Cleveland and Gold and get ninety five.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yes, it's gonna probably take three first round picks but
you get here, the Cowboys have the capitol, the Eagles
will do it, uh Detroit to do it, you gotta
have somebody that that's that, that would put that, you know,
and think, now here's the thing that's that that's gonna
be tricky about Detroit because Hunts. You're gonna have to
(48:20):
do something with Hunche this year, right, you gotta do.
You're gonna have to do something with him.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
And could you imagine eight hundreds on one side?
Speaker 1 (48:29):
No, I don't want to bage that man with that offense.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
That ain't that.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
That's not fair, that's not fair. You might well just
ship the guy Damn Lombardi right out there to him
right now?
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Oh for sure? About and if you put him in Dallas,
him on that turf, man, stop playing.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
That's now that's a different maker. That's a different maker.
Because the offense is so good, the offense is so good.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
You're gonna be playing with the leader. He gonna he's
gonna get the rush all the time.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
And that's an impact player that would make your defense
that much better.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
For sure. That's that's absolutely, that's absolutely for certain, O Joe.
But it's just it's just tough. I mean, you know. Yeah,
I just don't know what he thought. And I look,
we told I know why he did it too. Like
you said, there's no more guarantee. I need a contract.
I ain't playing this last year with no guaranteed money.
(49:24):
I want guaranteed money. I requested the trade. I understand
what I mean in the community. I really love the city. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Oh they came. So we got forty million. We got
one hundred and five hundred and ten million fully guaranteed. Okay,
I'm good. He know they're not gonna win, but he
got guaranteed money.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Yeah, I mean, letst we all know, you know, and
those are outside, I mean.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Those with Let me ask your question, O Joe, before
you go any further. Do you believe if he says
I want to get traded, and it said that my
destination would be the Eagles, I would like to go
to the Eagles, or I got to go to like
to go to Detroit. Do you believe they gave him
a similar contract because I do. Yeah, absolutely, Thank.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
You absolutely for what he's done before he hit thirty
years old.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
He won't be thirty. He won't be thirty until the
twenty ninth of December. Yeah, that man got two months.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Do you know how many says this man's gonna happen
two months? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (50:16):
And see that's why I said they would have been
willing to do it because of what he's already accomplished
and he has thirty right yeah, absolutely, yeah, But listen,
it still might happen. It still might happen because right now,
the Browns, the organization, the GM, the Scouts, the owner.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
I mean, we're really not going anywhere because they're not.
We're not.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
We're not we're not winning with him. So why don't
we get pieces that we can use and continue to
build for the four seable future.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
But here's the thing on Joe. Can they build Nah?
Speaker 4 (50:52):
Yeah, probably maybe Legos exactly, toy Lan, that's what that's
what the that's what they show.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yes, they had a quarterback, but they didn't want him
to be himself. He got injured and he played, He
tried to play through it, and you know, had me
convinced that he couldn't play.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
No, he could play. He just need pieces around him.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
As all as all quarterbacks do.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yes, yes, look at it, when he got pieces around him,
Tada looking looking good. But but and you know. Look
they are when they got high draft picks. But see
you got Miles Garrett. Okay, slam dunk, you got Baker.
(51:40):
Baker played good for a couple of years, he got injured.
You didn't have the pieces around him, but you got
Denzel Ward. But here's the thing, oh Joe, it's those
second round It's the second through fifth that build your
football team. That's where you make it. M That's the way.
That's the way you build a football team. Yeah, it's
(52:03):
those pieces. So do we believe Cleveland can feel in
the can fill in the blanks? That's the question. Can
they fill in the blank?
Speaker 3 (52:10):
So, Joe, well, have they been able to fill him
in the past?
Speaker 2 (52:13):
Who knows how long?
Speaker 3 (52:15):
No, there's Janson.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
No, they hadn't had a quarterback since since Bernie Cozark.
We's taking them to the AFC Championship game consistently. Now,
Baker had a couple of good years, but I'm talking
about consistent play for or three four year stretch. It
was Bernie. You know, they at night what was eighty
nineteen eighty when they had the cardiac kids, Brian sich
Ozzie knew some Reggie Rucker.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Those guys.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Yeah, but they haven't. They haven't been that in a while.
You know. They was good and like I said, when
they had Bernie, they had Earnest Boder, Kevin Mack, they
had Ozzie. I think whether Metcalf was there two Metcalf
came in ninety Metcalf was in my draft. Now Metcalf
(53:01):
might have been eighty nine. I think Metcalf might have
been eighty nine. So he was, Yeah, he might have
been there. He was there, man, he was. You had
to see him. Man, that joke will stop on a dime.
Oh Joe with them high knees.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Yeah, yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Cavill like ma, he must have ran track, huh yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
I think he did.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
Yeah, because he was silkie smooth man.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
He exaggerated his running for him as if he was
on the track.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Garrett twenty twenty three Defensive Player of the Year when
he had fourteen sacks the five sacks did they give
him ten for the season with nine games to play.
It'll be tough for players on the losing team to
win postseason awards, but he's gonna be tough to ignore.
Brian Burns is another. I think Brian Burns has ten
or eleven sacks, Garrett eight consecutive season with at least
(53:51):
ten sacks. He's on pace to shadow his previous high
of sixteen sacks in a season. That's how well he's playing.
But he's gonna go un noticed.
Speaker 7 (54:00):
Yeah, well, listen, if he continued to make noise, continue
to make noise, I think, obviously before the member fourth,
I don't think he's gonna be there.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
No, I don't think they trade him obviously. But let
me tell you this, So Joe, think about this. Do
you know how hard it is to get sacks when
you're getting your ass kicked? Yeah, this man got ten sacks.
This man got five sacks, and they ran the ball
for them, the near two hun of yards on them.
And he's still putting up numbers on that team.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
And that's crazy. I needed I need to talk to
I need to talk to Andrew Barry
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