Club Shay Shay - TK Kirkland Part 2 - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for you're coming back. Part two is underway.
Help me understand Tory Lanez is in jail and he
ended up getting stabbed fourteen times.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
How's how's he in gipop?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
He's trying to be something that he's not. Some guys
think they tough, and.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
That's a whole different animals, that's a different world, that's
a jungle. That's just Sarah Getty.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Thank you, sir. You understand it's not about being tough.
Some of those guys in there are the most manipulave,
most manipulative, clever people you ever imagined. Just like it's
just human nature.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Somebody don't like you because they see you on TVY.
Somebody don't like me, right, never met us before in
our life, but they just don't like you, right, that's
just their nature. If he's in there, he's in general population.
You never know what people are feeling towards you, right,
You never know if somebody just wants to kill you,

(01:05):
and that's what happened when them. You gotta do things
in life to protect you. I learned to fly like
an ego. But I've learned about that because me and
you read a lot. You know, don' to say what
I'm saying. Crows attack egos. Did you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
And the way memory you do something to them, they remember.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
They remember. And what crows do, I mean, what egos do?
They don't fight you, you know what they do? They
ride and the higher they go the altitude for the crows.
So what I did was I rose, and all the
crows I left behind. So I don't put myself in situations.

(01:49):
I don't hang around certain people. I've always been independent,
moved by myself anyway, but I do it in a
strategic way now. So when I'm men broke vers Kink
of Basso, when I'm in Berlin, when I'm in Spain,
when I'm in Paris.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
On the do not yet?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, but I'm living, yeah, because I'm not walking the
streets in America right, And I achieved things a lot
of people because eighty percent of the populations haven't been
on the plane. See when we fly, we think it's nothing.
Eight of the population have not been on a plane.

(02:33):
So there's people. There are people who are alive, but
they haven't lived. And I lived.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Wow, you're part of the s Scared Straight program.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Y'all been going deep.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
So so you wanted to act it in there, like
you want to do it.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
This is way before then. Really, this is the original.
So they were actually there were actually programs where they
would in the seventies. Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is
down the line. This is when it first I was
there when it first started.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
So they were brain kids that were getting in trouble,
and it's like, look if you go and you in
there like you don't want to come here.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, I can tear right now. This ain't the place
for you.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yes, And guy's bigger than you. I saw him in
booty shorts, huh, dresses and the shirt tied up with
the ran down and wrapped around like a woman. Scary shit,
I've ever saved in my life, y'all. So all these
kids out here shooting thinking that they're tough, that's.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
A different animal in there.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Huh, you understand. Here's the Here's the worst thing about
getting locked up. One of the worst things getting locked
up is when you go through processing and they give
you underway to put on it. You know, maybe five
thousand people and had that on.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Oh they don't get you no new draws, they don't
let you getting over your own fruit of lose Hanes.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
So you're wearing drawn somebody else to had on.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
That's my point. Yeah, humiliating, is it? You understand what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, this ain'tny place for me. I
ain't coming back here.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
And they still they think it's a game. The whole
system is set up to lock you up. But you
got to take accountability because people are like, oh, they
wanted to put us in jail. You ain't doing that.
They can't putt Yeah, that's just facts. You gotta always say.
If you want to put the police out of jail, stop.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Doing crime, put them out of business.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Step put them out of business. You give them a job, right, Yeah,
it's it's it's it's a rough situation.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
So when the kids come in there, what was your
pitch to him? The kids come in there, Uh, they
I guess they're between the ages of ten and fifteen.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
I was that was you. I would go in I
was young, the one that's tried to beat They was
trying to scare you straight. Yeah, they was trying to
scare me straight.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I thought you would, Oh.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
They're trying to scare me straight. And it worked, Like
I wasn't a troubled guy.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
It's just that I didn't get in trouble until I
went to college. I had never been in trouble before
in my life, and I just went down the path
of self destruction. But it's like the lady says, city
council in Jersey, New Jersey, my name was giving me
my street named after me. She said, mister Kirka, we're

(05:35):
not giving me the street because of what you've accomplished.
She said, we're giving you the street because you got
off track and you got back on track to achieve
your goal.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
She said, we want people to know that because you can,
you can mess up and so achieved. So as I'm
reading through life, I have noticed that if Maya Angelo
would have died at twenty two, she had died of prostitute,
it read Malcolm Xwell died as a youngster, you would
die a pimp or a drug dealer named Dirty Red.

(06:06):
So I talk about this in my stand up as well,
and I tell people you don't have to start out great.
You can start out great and mess up that you
can get back and win and have a story to tell.
And I always say to people, try to win, get
a story to tell. Don't think that it's over because

(06:29):
it ain't go over to it's over and you can win.
And I'm an example of that.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
What are your thoughts on fame? What do your thoughts
on Hollywood?

Speaker 3 (06:38):
That's a great question. I never been I tell people
don't take it seriously. This ego thing they walk around.
They gotta have security people thinking that they're bigger than
they what they really are. Just because you got more
money than another person, looking down on people. It's a
horrible thing. I think the goal I'll always tell people

(07:04):
get the money, take care of your family, take care
of your loved ones, treat everybody. It's a beautiful feeling
shaking hands because when you become an entertainer, there's it's
a rule. These people made you famous in actuality, you
work for them. If they want a picture, care of you. Exhausted,

(07:29):
take the picture. Somebody wants to autograph sign it. I
remember staying at the Rich Carlton in Cleveland. I like
the Risk Calton. The Phoenix Suns was in the same hotel,
and at that hotel, the kids stand across the street

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in the cold to get the autographs of the ballplayers.
Some of the ball players come and walk right past them,
and I got mad because I'm like, Yo, these people
out here they made you. These basketball players ain't getting
no chunk change. They get more even if you sit

(08:13):
on the bench. I went on the bus. Yeah I
don't play. I said, Yo, sign these mother, because all
the grass don all the money that you're getting.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Do you care that when it went down?

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Well no, no, no, I'm protected everywhere I go in
this world. Trust me. I always keep a crew. You
may not see people with me, but I'm one of
those guys. I always have a crew on deck. Yeah.
All I got to do is get out a live
and I got a crew on deck.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Uh. What have you learned about money?

Speaker 3 (08:50):
You gotta respect it. You have to respect money. And
I teach people how to invest. Now. I made a
lot of money in the investment world, but not because
I did anything smart. Well I had to do something smart,
but but I didn't have a certain strategy. I just
invested in everything, right, like I just not in one company.

(09:13):
I put money in about over twenty companies and made
a lot of money doing that way. And I tell people, no,
representing Fidelaly and all them, they send you to stuff
to represent you so they could put your money in
certain places so they could take three percent. So I
had a conversation. I said, so you want me, so
I bust my ass, my whole life, hand all my

(09:35):
money over to you. You decide what's best for me,
and you take three percent of my money. You got
to be out your damn mind.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Wow, you said, I do it myself.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I do it myself. So I tell people invest in
stuff that you go to all the time. If you
go to Chevron, you go to Walmart, go to Target.
One of my female friends, I explained to her, I said,
she spends five hundred and ony six dollars a month
as Starbucks.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Well, miff, did it? You get some of it back?

Speaker 3 (10:06):
And this is what I told her. This is a strategy.
I said, wouldn't it be nice to be walked in
there and knowing they worked for you. That's the attitude
you got to have. Even if you just took half
that money and put it in the stock, they worked
for you. And in twenty thirty years, boom boom, like

(10:29):
I had a thing I did. I think I did
it on Barker's cloud and I was talking about ask
your girl for ten thousand dollars and people thought that
the women thought I meant get the guy ten thousand,
and I said so, y'all. Never, y'all wasn't raised by hustlers. See,
I came up with hustlers. Our goal was that we

(10:52):
found the woman that we cared about, even though you
knew you wasn't going to be with her. You asked
them where her money situation was. Her money situation was right, right,
because you want to get you want to put her
in position to be ready for the man she's supposed
to be with down the line. Because most men know
they're not gonna be with the girl they with, right,

(11:13):
but they won't teach you nothing. They want elevator. Oh okay,
And the gold is no matter what woman you meet today,
elevate them, make them better the master what you met exactly,
that's what you're supposed to do. So I tell the guys,
and I've told the ladies, the ten thousand tells me
where you are in life. So now I say, look,

(11:34):
because I rock with you and I respect you, Let's
take your ten thousand, put it in Morgan Stanley at
compound interest and annuity, and in twenty years, your ten
thousand there's gonna be two hundred and ninety six thousand.
You can google it, you can call Morgan Stanley. This
is facts because I want you to have your money

(11:54):
right for the man you're supposed to be with, because
I belong to everybody.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
What's your worst purchase? What's the worst what's the worst
thing TK spend his money on?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Mm hmmm?

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Because I know become Before you became financially conscious, you
had in order for you to become financially conscious, you
had to have made some mistakes.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
It's a good question. None I've been that conservative with money,
really yeah, I've been very I'm almost cheap. But I
have a rule, stay low key in flex occasionally okay,
So that rule always kept me conservative. And the rule

(12:40):
is the more money I got, I live beneath my
means really Yeah. People get money and they go beyond.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I go to opposite. The more money I get, I
go under. Still look still living good. I live in
a very conservative neighborhood. Those people mostly white white.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
If they know who I am, they know I move
very strategically, very quiet. I move certain way. Not no
women coming in out of my house. The only thing
they probably show different over the last twenty years. If
I always had a brand new car every six seven months,
I always cut something fly right. But not doing that
no more. So I got an Aston mar and I

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got a Bentley.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, I got all the but I'm getting ready to
get rid of them and get what you're going. No,
I think I'm getting a mini van.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
A minivan.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I think I've always wanted a mini van dog to
do what. I just want to drive. I just want
to be in the mini because I'm gonna do my
new podcast in l A and April and January, and
my grandkids are in there, and I think maybe that's
something that I was putting into the universe. Then I'm

(13:58):
gonna be with them so much, and I'm looking forward
to hanging with my grandchildren. But I'll probably get rid
of those cars and then it have to be honest.
I might get a Ferrari the Big Boy. But but
the Mini Man Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it.
I've been looking at it, so I'll see what I'm

(14:18):
gonna do.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
I ain't been looking at it.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, you know, I'm out of that phase. Yeah, I've
been there. I know what you mean. I know what
you mean. I just want to get the ferrari on
some fly.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Have you ever had a before?

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah? Yeah, my cottdown to bent. I love that thing. Yeah,
because it's just the way it takes off. That thing
just flows, you know. So I'm just enjoying, man. I mean,
I mean, what else can you do at this age? Right?
You have sex, sip on your drink, you slip on
Louis the thirteenth, You smoke cigars, right, you get manicures

(14:54):
and pedicures. You stay out the way, you stay away
from hay. Yeah right, you gotta say from haters because
you have a million people love you, only take my
motherfuck and knock you off.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yep, that's it.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
But you know what I always wanted And the way
the brain is wired is that ten million people can
applaud you, but you'll always hear the one that be
a boot.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Isn't that something?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well?

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I have to bring why I think we are drawn
to negativity. We are just like a thousand con great
and beautiful comments, but you always respond to that one.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
That one hate.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
You don't respond to the what like, Hey, Shannon, we
love club Shait, we love tk on that we love
this personally love that man. You should have asked this
why you always be a message?

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yes? But what it's hilarious. It is, but that's how
we are programmed. That's true.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
You stand up.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Let's get to your standard because that's what you're kind of,
you're known for.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
You have been booed.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
No, how do you?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Were you a class clown? How did you?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
How did you even discover? Were you funny as a kid?
Did you entertain your family? You entertained friends? How did
you know you had this side of k kirkle?

Speaker 3 (16:05):
I wasn't a class clown. I was a hustler who
turned the neggative into a positive. I got lucky doing
stand up and when I did it, I was good.
I was already starting as a businessman. So it goes
back to the Eddie Murphy Charlie Murphy situation. So that
happened in nineteen eighty two and nineteen eighty five. I

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started stand up and a guy named David Jones, who
was Eddie Murphy's best friend. He still was my friend
even though that situation happened. And what people don't know,
even though that situation me and Charlie Murphy still was cool.
And what Charlie told David Jones. Was that because David
didn't know if he still should be my friend because

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he was best friends of Eddie and Charlie says, I'm
right in front of him. He said, t k's your friend.
That's your friend. That's your friend, regardless of what happened.
That's your friend. And me and David, he helped me
put jokes together. So I was helping putting these jokes

(17:08):
together and shout out to David Jones, if you're still alive.
And I wound up doing my first comedy show that
I rented the venue, you know, because I was always
a businessman, and I rented at this club called Collinson
Charlie's on Sunset Boulevard and invited so many people, not
thinking the business side of it. Everybody got in free

(17:28):
at the end of the day. The owners didn't care.
I mean, people you invited, at the end of the day,
you old the bill. So everybody paid whatever, right, And
I think my profit was two dollars. Damn that's what
I made. And I gave David a dollar and I
kept a dollar. And that's how I went up into
the Sunset. And as I come to this day, I

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have problems with some clubs all the time. They knew
to normally give it what I want, but I usually
try to get my ninety the door. Well yeah, so
some clubs do it more so than others. Or they
negotiate with me, you know, or I get on their
nerves and we don't talk for a minute. Then we
come back around. But I don't be caring. I'll get

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my money.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
And someone ever rests the stage on you have you?
I mean, you do you do?

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Hecklers come and they try to you know, and try
to get you off your game.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
No, no, no, no no, never had that problem. I had
a problem with a gentleman, but he doesn't exist to
me no more. So I gotta I gotta pivot out
of that one. What I've learned in life is I
don't give other people energy to give them because they're
not on my level. So what I've learned in life
is not to even mention them so that you give

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them life because I worked hard to get to where
you are and I'm not gonna put them in a
position to win. It's something that went down on some
you know. You got haters, yes, and then you got
people who will put their mix into the universe, and
because people want to believe what they want to believe,

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it teaches a lesson. The lesson that taught me is
not to mention who they are. I saw it in
that situation where people were messing and people like clickbaiting
because everybody wants to be famous, right, everybody wants to
be in front of this camera, views on their social media,

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and they would lie to get it. And I don't
fall for it no more.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Cancel culture. Is there a joke that you won't tell
on stage?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
And I'll say anything and don't give.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I just man your favorite comedians today. So let me
ask you a question.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
What do you think the biggest difference is between comedians
whether you're going Eddie red Fox, Richard Pryor, Robin Harris,
Bernie Matc, comedians of yesterday and the comedians that we
see today.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
What's the biggest difference you think.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I think we could they the kids today got the
fame first before they earned the reputation. But if they're smart,
in ten fifteen years, they.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Could be done. They don't even have to do it
no more.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
They could be done and be done with it, but
their talent would match the fame. Whereas we had the
fame first and not the money because we were here
the to go in the trenches to get it. We
had to get we only had our city Hall. David Letterman,
what's the radio guy that's been around long time? The
white guy?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Howistern?

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Howis Stern? Say? We had those shows to make us famous. Yeah,
that's not that many I'm thinking about now.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
They don't really have comedians on like that.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
You know. Johnny Carrs used to have a night where
he had comedians on. He give them five minutes to
do their thing and if they really good, he'd bring
the ass to the couch that was such and such
and they got The shows aren't like that, like that
at all. So those things changed the game. But it's
like David Klayman, my business partment, told me before he

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died years ago. He said, everything we learned, throw it
out the window because it doesn't apply now. See, there's
no blueprint for success. People think you should do this,
should do that now. Thirty years ago, the Kadashians would
have never been on TV. Right, there's no disrespect to them.
But I saw the mentality of the universe decline. I

(21:35):
knew he was in trouble when Flavor Flav.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Got a show, but you ain't like Flavor Loves.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
My Flavor Love. It was when I saw them women
chasing this month through through the show like he was
the finest dude on the planet, and that was confusing
to me. So when I saw the Flavor Flav show,
I knew then it was shut out the Flavor Flave too.
By the way, Yeah, I knew. Man, say, really, that's

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how I looked at the world.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
You got in a fight with Robin Harris.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Didn't get a fight in it. We just didn't get
it along. It's just why you didn't get along. It's
like in football, even somebody don't like basketball. A lot
of people didn't like Michael Geordan. Yeah, you know, I've
thought about that today. It's crazy. I love to be prepared.
What I've learned in life is since he's deceased, I
can't discuss. He's not here to defendent. So we just

(22:30):
didn't get along, you know, just life. That's what about
Michael Blason. I love Michael Blackson, me and Michael.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
He just had a kid.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
I know, his old ass, you know, shut after Michael
he said he wasn't gonna have no kid. Me and
Michael Blason a great goose back to each other, but
we've never never had a problem. He just thought that
I didn't I wasn't making money because I always stayed
quiet and glad that asked me one time about how
much I make, and I was like, I ain't telling no,

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I don't know when people start. I'm an old head.
I think different. The way we came up, no one
was supposed to know what you made.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Because when they do, boy, they're coming.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, Like when did they start advertising social sign the
five idea of work for one hundred and twenty two
million dollars. People don't know you put an excell on
this man's back or woman's back. That's dumb. So everybody
thought we was mad at each other. But it wasn't mad.

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It's just that what I had said. We were somewhere
and I told him I get like forty something a show.
But what he didn't understand is that my shows, most
of my shows don't come from the comedy world. It's
people who are still making money in the streets that
book me for stuff and because my crew loves me,

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or people who have been rocking me for thirty years.
They're gonna pay me what I want, right, So I
get it. I get my money a different different way
than most comics. And I created my own lane. So yeah,
Michael Black shout out to Michael Black Centers, so we
always have a good time.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
You mentioned that the Netflix, and obviously look when you
get a special now Netflix, It used to be HBO. Yes,
you know Chappelle Netflix, He did his thing and Chappelle
has been unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Uh who else? Quake had a Netflix special?

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yes, Cat had a Netflix special, So I guess that's
the new. That's the new. HBO have your special. But
I see Ali Jadiq take a different route. I see
who else took a different route. RNTJ took a different route. Yes,
are you okay? If that Netflix special? Don't come pivoted
and said, okay, I got a YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I put it on YouTube, let people view it for them.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
I've been doing the wait for these guys. I have
my own network. I put my own stuff out. The
thing that got what happened to get me more popular?
What shows like yours? The breakfast clubs I knew in
the nineties in order for me to get the recognition
that I wanted. It was gonna come from the younger generation.

(25:11):
They know about social media. The didn't know about the Internet.
But podcasting, Internet social media changed my world. So now
I'm more popular than I was, even though I'm funny.
I think I was funnier back then than I am now.
But yeah, I'm more popular now. So with that said,

(25:33):
now I could start I could promote my shows even more.
My stand up. I was doing the independence that way
for most comics and making decent money, you know. So
what what people do understand? Netflix will pay you a
certain amount of money, but.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
They own you, don't own the content.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
It's done. Once you they pay you, they.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Own it, so they keep running lowly.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
They want to me own the mind. I may not
get all the money that nextbox will give me at
one time, but.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
You will be able to course the time, over course
of time.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
And ain't how much money you make, it's how long
you make money exactly.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
And that's what people don't get. We sol brainwashed, and
sometimes you want to fight everybody to prove to them
how they wrong.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
But man, boy, were you on a comic view, death
comedy jail?

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I did comic view, I did common view. I never
did death jam.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Do you regret? Do you regret not being never do death?
Comedy jam?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
No, no, no, no death jam you ex boy something
and Tina Graham they invented was if they invented it
was based on my style of comedy, and I turned
it down the first time because I did a specially
called More Funny with Moms and Babley Yeah Richard Pryor,

(26:55):
and it was introduced me to the world as the
next voice of stand Upon. But then I got in
another situation in crime critic also Simmons, Oh yeah, so
I had another situation after that, so I stated some shit.
So then when I came back around to do it,

(27:16):
I couldn't do the show.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, it's like, no, we're good.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, they we're good.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Do you believe in gatekeepers? Are they gatekeepers out there?

Speaker 3 (27:23):
She said, yeah, I think it is. But I never
got caught. I never cared about it. I'm so I'm
so deep independent. None of that exists to me because,
like I said, I got to m behind my name too.
Most comics don't have it. I had to do something right,
and I'm damned one hundred something years old. When I
was on the show and we started with I'm sixty something, right,

(27:46):
We've been here so long. I'm I think I'm one
hundred and threes. Do you have you written jokes for comics? No?
We might maybe once in a while we say something
and we say, you go ahead and keep that, but
that's it. That's it. My style of comedy is really unique,
it really is, you know, so I take pride in it.

(28:11):
One of my friends said explained to me that Dave
Chappelle was talking about me, and he said, T. K.
Kirkhaan is really one of the best communians out of
there because of my cadence. He said that I had
a way of speaking that hypnotize people, and I thought
that was a great comments shot out the Dave Chappelle.
Gary told me that, Dave, so let you know, and.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Someone ever, why are you on joke stealing? Have someone
ever stolen your jokes?

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Quite sure they have.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I think it's the most pettish kitty ship that I've
ever seen in my life. Somebody steal your ship unless
it's a signature piece, right, Because what I know is
in this game, especially African American, you may not have
the same material, but you might have the same topic.
If Will Smith did the smack and everybody had a

(28:58):
joke about Will Smith. They just did it a different way,
but it was the same topic. I think when I
saw that, I thought it was petty. I thought it
was nonsense. But I'm older than everybody, so I was like,
let them kids play with the game. They play with
the toys. I ain't had time for what is it about?
Why do why don't comments like following each other? Because
that person goes on in front of them is about

(29:20):
to destroy the room. And that's why I had to
always go last in my coming up in in my
day because everybody knew that TK kirklam was going to
rock the room. If you ever talk to DL Godfrey again,
these guys will definitely say to you, nobody wanted to

(29:41):
follow TK Kirklum. Nobody. I would put a hurt on
your ass. And that's the fact. I mean, it's true,
it's true.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
I mean if that the intentions is like you, you like,
first of all, when you get booked for a show,
and then when the okay everything is settled, you know
who's gonna be on that show.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
And it's a great question, Shannon. When you're young, you
want to destroy the world, what I learned in life.
When I tell you younger comedian is listen to what
your headliner is, what his show is about. Understand comedy,
I Q. Don't talk about the same things that he
might talk about, and don't burn the show because if

(30:24):
you don't burn the show, that comic might take you
on the road with him, because you know, because that's
how you'll learn to eat. I was destroying everybody, so
I had to find my own lane because nobody was
gonna take me on the road, right. So I sat
down with Damon Wayans one day and he said, TK,
you can't get mad at comics who won't book you. Yeah,

(30:47):
he said, you're too funny. Nobody's going to book you.
It ain't happening. And I've learned that. So I created
my own aim, and over the years, my name is
on the marquee. I try to teach comics about comedy.
I que because I want a certain I want clean
comics going before I go on, because with you, with her,

(31:11):
and I want it to be shocking. I don't want
three people might step on certain things I might talk
about by the time I get on. And the example
I want to give the world to you It's like
if we was watching the TV show right now, we
had different actors and they talk about a certain topics.
We turned the channel, different actors the same topic. He said,

(31:34):
I saw it, sir Baddie. It's the same thing sitting
in the audience. If everybody goes on and talks about
the same time, it could be different material. But the
audience people are saying, yo, did you hear what the
first person saying? He said the same thing they just said.
And people that comedians don't talk with each other before
they go on stage, really and they should talk. They say,

(31:54):
what you're gonna talk about today? Because I don't want
to talk about what you're doing, And that's how I
always do my shows.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
DK you been at this thing a long time, damned
alone than anybody. Did you know that comedians had this
kind of resentment towards each other?

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yes, petty, which is don't make any sense. That's like
I've always stayed to myself. It's it's it's it's truly
pass because, like I said, I came up a street guy. Yeah,
most of the guys they didn't have they didn't have confidence,
they didn't have a they didn't have a title, and comedy.

(32:33):
Saw what somewhat gave them confidence they was able to
talk to women. You know, I was pulling women since
I was eleven, right, So I seen it. I seen
it from them with far just watching seeing them getting girlfriends,
having babies, and I seen them all change. And they
take this thing because nobody never had nothing till they

(32:55):
got a little name for themselves. Right, it don't matter.
Don't matter if you're not in touch with yourself. You
don't have a few dollars in the bank, you don't
have good credit, you're living off a woman. You done
dog right from a man's back there, And I pretty

(33:18):
much know everybody's business.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
That's not good.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, when I say I when I say I pretty
much know everybody that some of the women that these
guys are married to, I probably dated them first. They
probably still say no, no, no, I'm not. I'm not saying
who they are.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I'm saying, are you proud of me?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
No? Just because I dated them before you, that doesn't
make I'm not the bad guy. I fucked them first.
What you mean some of these guys is married because
of what I taught they.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Girl, Oh my goodness, what.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
That's just game? Some of these guys. And this is true.
If you married and you know that girl dated me first, you.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Mad tell him you don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah, but they know, they don't know. I hope they
don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
I read you were I read you an athlete? What
you what you would you?

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (34:19):
You football? I mean cause you? I mean you guys?
You know that nice size to yourself.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
I was a track star. I guess now they don't
have you rolling. Guess who I ran with? Name and
daddy research that. I'm gonna say, Bruce Jenner, Carl Lewis.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
You read with Carl you beat it?

Speaker 3 (34:39):
No, no, no, we didn't run against each other in New
Jersey in the seventies.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, your car, that's where you're from.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
We was the tirlest track circuit in the world. Right,
So we had Carl Lewis, butcher Wood Folk ye from Westfield.
We had Rinaldo Skeets, Neil Mayer, remember them, right, you
leave around guy Williams. T. K. Kirkland. A lot of
people don't know that I used to run track. I

(35:06):
won the Melrose Games at masistrec Garden. Did you nineteen
seventy nine when.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
You were sixty sixty?

Speaker 3 (35:12):
My real had to run somebody down. You got them,
got them my real a nineteen's at Melrose Games. So
I've had her and still having an amazing like that
track thing I love.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
That's my favorite sport.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
One isn't that, but it was my favorite thing to run,
you know something.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
That's why they couldn't catch you when you did.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Something bad, right that had been a little bit real bad,
you would track athlete in the in the cops catch
you with all that gear, old teacher. So I'm gonna
tell you I got a crazy story. I did something
at the school. I ain't gonna say the name of
the school, and I dropped my bag. They couldn't catch me,
but I dropped my bag and my idea was in
the bad and they came to the house. That's how

(35:56):
they got you out, how they got me mother. I'm
something else I told you.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Are you disappointed Tyrek and or no allives in our racing?

Speaker 3 (36:06):
I'm disappointed? Yeah, because Noahlloles is a different kind of man.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah. He hating on the athletes.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah, and I hate to say this about him, and
I normally don't say this about people. Somebody need to
whoop his ass. He need to go in the room
and get stop so he can get some guts because

(36:37):
I'm disappointing how he moves as a man.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I don't like that either.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
You can't get mad for something you don't have that
somebody else do.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, now you talk down on them, bro, Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
All them dramatics coming out before you run.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I ain't got no problem with that. It's just the hating. Well, no,
I got a shoe.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
This guy got a shoe and I ain't got no shoe.
I'm the most popular guy. I mean you go back
your study track and feel ain't but am full of
guys car and not called you saying boat and probably
Michael Johnson. Yes, I mean people are not going to
just make a shoe. Caught you fast. People gonna make
a shoe. Cut the the sell people.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Here's what you're saying that people don't get a man character? Yes,
do you have a personality to sell? When you see
you saying boat?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (37:20):
What is it about him? He's generous to the people. Yeah,
and he gives results. He wins yep at the end
of the day. Good character and results. Let's take football.
When your contract is up, they talk about do you
deserve all the money you're about to kick it, right,
if your character is not good. These athletes, these people

(37:43):
don't notice in the world. Yeah, you got the talent,
but they decide he can't handle that keep of money
because they've been watching your character. And if you your
characters are right, you could lose seven, eight, ten, even
twenty million yees because someone is deciding, right, can you
handle the money they're about to give you, And if

(38:05):
they don't think you can handle it, they'll shorten you
twenty something million.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, I don't have to look.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
I understand if he wants the shoe, he feels he's deserving,
He's earned the right for shoe. I ain't got no
problem with that complaining, But don't talk about what somebody
else has because you don't have it.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
I told they're great. That's not the only problem I have,
and keep delivering. Be a man of your word. If
you're supposed to raise Tyreek, train, right train, because we
know you the best. Tyree can't beat you, right because
in time square, I.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Think I think if all depends on what they're running,
then if they run afford it, I think Tyreek can
beat him in the four.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah, I told their great.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
They run. He ain't beat him in the hunt.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
No, And I'm quite sure if he was smart, he'll
run a hundred like I wanted to run. Kat Williams and.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Cat to beat you. I got Cat.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Yeah no. Cat called me on radio shows, right, and
I'm just saying, yeah, I put my money over. Yeah.
But letna tell you what happened. You know, when you're old,
you think he still that twenty one year old kid.
And when I saw a Cat run, I said, I
can be that's that's so I'm working out one day,

(39:10):
I said, and it just nothing happened. I just realized, Yo,
you fall back from that mess you was talking about
with Cat because you yeah, no, No, I'm in good shape,
but I know I ain't that fast. It's a difference, right.
And Cat called me. I was doing a podcast. Shout
out to Cat, and he said, what's up, old man?

(39:31):
He said, what you want to do about that race?
She wanted to do it? Men, I said, Cat, let
me tell you something. I got the thinking, Doug, you
can have that because I gotta feel that. I said,
I feel young, but I know that's and that's that thing.
When you get older, you think that you're still as fast.
As you used to be and you're not.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
No, not even close.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
I came when I run across the street. You know
when you're in shape, when you bounce everything I do
now feel like I'm stomping in the ground. Heavy is heavy,
So you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Right?

Speaker 3 (40:04):
You don't have that, don't have that bounce that's gone
is gone.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Look you had you have offered a critique of Cam
Cam Newton. Have you had an opportunity to talk to Cam.
Have y'all had an opportunity to discussed that.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
No, I'm glad that you brought that up, because let
me tell you what I thought. I said something to Cam,
and I'm gonna apologize. I'm gonna tell you why. In life,
you see people at a certain place of their life
and then they grow up and they become better people.
And I saw him his growth and a man enough

(40:38):
to say I was wrong because I saw his growth.
Just like one time I said Kevin Hart wasn't funny,
and Kevin Heart is funny. But what I didn't see
at that time was Kevin was a young kid. Comedy
is based on experiences and maturity, and older you live

(41:00):
in this game, the more you experience, the boy, you
become funny. And I saw that in Kevin. When Kevin
did that host for the road for Tom Brady, Tom
Brady listen to Me. I think I watched that show
about twenty times, Yeah, because Kevin was on fire, and

(41:21):
I just truly enjoyed them. Now he grew up to
be a young man. His timing was impeccable, and I
just saluted him. I watched it that much. And I
even loved seeing him on the commercials. He was born
to do those City Bank commercials What's in your whilet
I love that, right, Yeah, I thought that was phenomenal.

(41:45):
So when people give an opinion of someone, what I've
learned from that is keep it to yourself, right, because
they're going to evolve. Just like if someone had an
opinion me years ago, they were like, oh he'll kill
you, You'll put you in the trunk type man. And now
the day yeah you look at me now you know,

(42:08):
so you do. Even Barry White was like that, Johnny Cash,
all these people were probably worse than me and became
phenomenal people.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
You have seven kids. You called the Little stir on
the I think it was the breakfast Club where you
say you don't pay. You didn't you don't pay, or
you didn't pay child.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
No, it wasn't just breakfast because it was another show. Yeah,
and the girl was upset with me about that, and
I explained to her, when you're a man and you
deal with women, they don't They.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Don't know how you got out of there.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
No.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
I just think that when you're a man, the women
that you mess with, if they need something, you look
care of it. You take care of it. Because I
wasn't married. My most of my babies was one night stance.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yeah, I didn't have relationships with these kids. Moms. I
saw you.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
You You can't say that, though, TK, Why can't say
we got the kids now?

Speaker 3 (43:04):
I told them all the kids, don't you told them? Yeah?
I told them.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
I said, you told them to your mom with a
one night's day, Yeah, one night stand.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Damn, TK, Why let him have this dream that my
mom and dad was in love with Your dad was smooth,
Your father was smooth.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
My kids.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
I had this conversation with my kids already, this is
not like this, not if they the youngest kid, My
youngest is six seventeen, The oldest is all thirty eight, damn.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
So you had your last kid at fifty? Yeah, you done?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Now it's possible though you made this what happens to night?
And put man in the room. I don't know what's
going to happen to night? You know I might have
three left kid? You sixty six?

Speaker 1 (43:51):
You got grandkids? How you have grandkids older than your kids?

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Let me tell you something. The other parents will go
down to night. Now I'm messling with I'm darn. I
had to get you on that. No, listen to anybody
thinking about having children. I want you to do me
a favor. Get in your car and go to three
daycares in your neighborhood. Yeah and you that would stop you?

(44:17):
Am I right or wrong?

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Stop?

Speaker 3 (44:18):
You get plan B. Go see what they charge at
daycare and you will not have no children.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah. They probably charged like three four week.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
It's more than that. More than that, what it, Shannon,
is like three thousand dollars a month? Boy kid a week?
Oh lord, look at me, Shaning a week.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
To be watching coca melon at the crib, that's my point.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
A week, Shanning.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
A week.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
No, your father drowned at thirty five. You had a
brother thirty five, Your youngest brother had an aneurysm.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
You gotta talk.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
You got a very tough Now what I want to
know who the person that's works for you to find
out information? We need to put them at the government
because they'll track anybody down.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Dog.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Oh my god over here, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, on point. Yeah.
All this happened before I was forty. So my dad drowned,
my mom died of cancer, my brother got shot by
the police, and my youngest brother died of aneurysm. So
that's how come I always talk about life and death.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
I was about to ask you, is that why you
so appreciative of life? Because you've seen so much that I've.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Seen so much that I've been burying people since I
was eleven. And that's my pay for my own finger
on my friend was paid for already. All that. I
got everything done already. Some of my kids won't have
to deal with all that, because it takes a man
to be prepared to know that. You get your demise,

(46:03):
and I know how like there's no funeral, there's no memorial, sir, Really,
you had no funeral, no memorial.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
You don't want anybody to grieve you.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Nah, wherever you are in the world that day, just
say tea to the MFK. We keep it moving. And
now the reason why I do that because when my
family was dying, I always I know, it's kind of weird.
I always felt it was an inconvenience. Really, I ain't
had time to go in the damn funeral. And I

(46:31):
remember when my aunts died. I asked my mom. I said, min,
do I gotta go? And She's like, yeah, you gotta
be there, you know, because I was always about I
was always My mother used to always say that boy
never less duskt under his feet because he's always on
the move. And I think about death every day, and
I thought it was a bad thing. My account he

(46:54):
used deceased now and we had to talk one day
years ago. He said, naw tk, He said, what you
How you thinking it's amazing? He said, because you'll never
get complacent, you take. I live every day like it's
my last yep, and I love it. Whether it's sitting
at my house smoking cigar, walking mountains, going to the gym,

(47:20):
catching a plane to my apartment in Paris. I live
this thing.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Man, well usually gloss over that, huh.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Yeah. I love I love being in Paris. Yeah, because
then I get up, I get there like six in
the morning. I always land six thirty in the morning.
I check it to go in my apartment. I changed
and then then you just hit the right on there.
I go sit in the at my cafe and I
watched the cars go by. They know me, mister Kirkland.

(47:47):
I have my cappuccino and croissant and I just sit
there and chill and I start laughing because I won
this in word here one of my reason because I
was going to Spain that week two. He said, man,
you know you flexing? Yeah, and I'm gonna tell you

(48:07):
someone give you some game. See, everybody I roll with
is successful, right. Never do we say reflexing because when
you rock with winners, it's the way it is.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
When you mess with people who are not on your
level and you on my level, like I changed your
mindset right here, educate you. It's not bragging, its wins.
So you roll with winners because when you're winners, it
doesn't sound like brags. Right. So whenever you hear someone
doing anything in the future, right, you always say, now
you're doing your thing. Because people who been IQ or

(48:43):
they mentality or they don't rock with people successful will
always say Yo, you're flexing. But everybody I rock with
got money, so we never said that. Wow, play the player, penthepen.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
In your forty years in the business, what's been the
best advice you've been given?

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Never get old and be broke? Yeah, that's the I
live by that every day.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
If you could do anything differently in your career, I'm
gonna give you. I got a time machine, and I'm
gonna give TK the ability to go back and do
something from its past differently.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
What would it be?

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Nothing? I thought about it a hundred times because I
like what I've become, and.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
You don't feel you could become that without the experiences
that you experienced.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
I don't know, because I haven't experienced it. It's I
gonna go by what's real, right, And what's real is
me sitting here with you, and my achievements and what
I've overcome and what I had to do to get
over it. Would I do it again? No?

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Once it's enough.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Man. If I had to do it again, nah, no,
if I could survive. But to see where I'm at today,
I'm blessful. I know what I had to go through
to get here to tell my story on Club shad
Shade too.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
And we appreciate it too.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Yeah, and I appreciate you and to know what I've achieved,
it's a blessing, you know. It's like whinn the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
What advice would you like to give this next generation?
Be it about business, be it about help, be it
about anything? What info? What words of wisdom? Knowledge would
you like to pass along?

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Educate yourself? Knowledge is key, but understanding knowledge is gifting
a curse, right, because the more you know, the more
you dislike people. Right, respect money, love yourself first before
you want to grow up and be a family. Because
everybody in this room, everybody in the world. What I'm

(51:01):
about to say, You've done it. When I say, everybody
once in a lifetime said I can't wait till I
grow up. And it's truly one of the worst damn
things you could say in your life. We all know
that now.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I can't wait to get grown. Wish I was a
kid again?

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Man, and my right or wrong. Don't rush to be
an adult. Don't be rushing to have babies, don't rush
to get old. Don't rush to be old. Man. Teach
people to stop saying that because even though you can

(51:38):
handle it, take your time. If you take your time
and really enjoy this thing called life, it's so much better.
Everybody want to rush having sex and babies and you
don't have the financial means to take care of the kid.

(51:58):
You have the proper education, shit right to get a
good job, and everybody suffers. Everybody suffers, And I tell
people if you can try not. People think I'm crazy
when I say this. Have kids on you in your
late thirties and foryies and I had twenty something years old.
People are like, oh, you could be dead, but then
that's the chance to take. It's better than the kid

(52:20):
being in poverty and struggling. People don't get it. So
that's the advice I will give And follow TK Kirkland
on Instagram at t King Kirkland. That's the advice I
will give them as well.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
What about you got to? You got to? You got
a YouTube channel? No?

Speaker 3 (52:38):
I do it? Care of Kirkling podcast on Twitter is
t K Kirkland as well. The YouTube. The new podcast
will be out in January or who Raised You? We
call them it the People's podcast and I'm excited to
do it. It'll be nine years you know I did
that stuff with SoundCloud or Charlamagne La God, we couldn't
do video at the time because I just wasn't gonna

(53:00):
stand still. Now I'm gonna do this. I'm excited. I'm
gonna do something a little different, and we see what
happens with it, you know, because like I said, I'm
gonna give myself a ten year run. But ten year
run for me, I'll be I'll be seventy almost seventy
seven years old. God damn, I'm gonna be here though,
k correctly my man. Appreciate you, sir, Thank you man. Yes, sir,

(53:22):
all right, let's welcome eight h back to perform on colub.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
It goes from the to the old.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
Down from the Far East Archipelagos. Sneaks with the venom. Yeah,
we put them in the bottle, says to the pain.
It's a heart feed of swallow pat. I sneazed up
and we stream and he got love Yo, Soky, you're
racing nowskinngesty, the just pray Asy feel the Nordes Chemistry

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boys stayed blazing and we're still having bad trips like
that hat shiit, fuck you pain me, ock you by
your pen nobody. Yeah, what's guidance? Now you want a bitch?
Could you see my good?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Why but your daddy and with the n ya understandingbody, with.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
The sudden mathematic minesthetic Superdicate's funny brother, Mandy Floor Paddic
Golden Child has Caunt the character with Caddy, bring you panic.
If you want to come down to the Bucher shop,
We're gonna into the night. Jump it up.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Come down to the shop.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
It's coming down to the buchershop.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
What's just his mine?

Speaker 5 (54:28):
Come down. We're gonna ran to the spine. Got the
finest one of fine cave it so you rare if
that's how your did. Listen, even the vegetarians can fit
the criteria. It'sice, not the verious serving like my vetterist.
I'm from the dungle with the military trenches and develops,
trying to huble but the fences used to be there,
girl on the gate two streets. Now I'm making ends

(54:49):
like I'm real Japanese running from my numbers to the
nearest hundred thousand. I ain't got the time. Cut the ones.
Who's stout it?

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Bow Bobby at the.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
Yacht at the that is the rock, what'll show the
rocks in a clean back of that Austin DBX sand
in my lot from o' get to the shouting land
hits the pop I'm suck there mixed with the fighter
Broddio this drunken monks in the cipher. I'll be with
the shell shocked voice from the island. If you want,
if we could chop it up, come down to the
butcher shop. We're gonna heat mine, chop it out. Come

(55:22):
down to the butchers shop. It's the word, come down
to the butchersh what's just this man, I'm down.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
We're gonna grind.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
So the spine got the funny sort of fine, give.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Into your rife and how you're lie?

Speaker 5 (55:37):
Wow, after leven, thank.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
You so much, oh, thank you, thank you, thank you
so much for performing on Club Sha.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
The name a witch it means Asian wish child. How
did you come up with that?

Speaker 5 (55:56):
It's my real name. Akiko? Uh huh Akiko. It means
a child. Asia has witch wish for okay, like our
is for Asia, okay, Hey is for wishka core is
for child.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Oh okay combined it.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
Fourteen are pushed together and came up with alish. But
everybody hits their name because it sounds like a witch,
but it didn't mean to be a witch. I try
to change it so many times, but every time I
change it, some sign will come to me. Just keep it.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
You're from Okinawa, yes now, ok And if I'm not mistaken,
I think the US still does. They still have a
military base there a lot.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
So you around people that spoke English, although you didn't.
You learned to speak English from watching Tupac.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
Yes, yes, well when I was well early earlier in
my life, before I even discovered Tupac. Okay, I studied
English on the military base, okay, Like I went to
went on to this teacher who was married to a
military American here. Yeah, so she taught me English. But

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then so I started digging like American music, Okay. Then
I discover hip hop, and then I discover Tupac.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Okay, and you hook.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
I watched all of his video all of his songs,
read all the lyrics, his interviews, his like documentaries. He
was already passed when I discovered him, so all the
movies everything.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Yeah, you know what.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
TK actually had a relationship with Bigger and Tupac. He
had a really good relationship with Tupac. So maybe you
can lend some insight and help her get a better
understanding of Tupac.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
So when you when you knew he was gonna do
Shannon Shop, when did you start.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
Preparing, like a like a month ago.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
A month ago? Yeah, so you're a true professional. The
reason why I say that Shannon's been around for a while,
and I've been in the business forty years and I
started with n w A and I learned from everybody
from jay Z to Tupac and all of us. And
the thing that he's gonna laugh, I've been preparing for
Shannon shot for three years. For three years. It's a

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mental thing. So do you prepare how he was gonna sound,
what you was gonna wear, the apport that he was
gonna wear. It comes all the way down that To me,
that's just a true professional because a lot of people
don't put that much time into it, and you have
to wait.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
Probably I've been preparing for over in a month because yeah,
maybe like three months, Okay, wow, three months.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Yeah, Because people preparing like that, like it's really we
take it that seriously, you know, Like I'm already on
the year twenty thirty two, and I'm sixty six years old,
So yeah, I'm sixty six. I just think that helps
keep me alive, to keep me going. I've always been
like that my whole life. Now. One thing about Tupac

(58:50):
when he started with Digital Underground, he was a different
type of gentleman, right, and I saw him he was
looking for someone to God, he needed a OG. He
didn't have an OG, and he went down this path
of rebellion strength, saying what he felt was necessary and

(59:13):
against all odds. Right, So how does that inspire you?
Do you want to put that type of energy out
for the people or what messages you're trying to give
to the universe.

Speaker 5 (59:26):
Well, it definitely taught me. He definitely taught me to
give back to the community.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
So I'm doing charity. I have my own brand of
soaka that would create employment in Okaynawa, Okay. And I'm
always doing like like going back to school like a school,
do speeches and things like that because I learned that
from Tubac. Okay, he like I watched his community center speech,

(59:51):
you know what I mean? So that that part of
Tubac is definitely like it's in me, but also his
other part, like your rebellious part like his contradiction, his everything,
like he's being honest, like really honest with himself all
the time. So to not be afraid to be honest

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of who you are, how you feel at like this moment,
as well as to give back.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
I have one more questions, this is your first album
first tracks or you put different albums up.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
I have a lot of well, I have a lot
of works done in Japan, Yes, I have. I've accomplished
a lot in Japan. Okay, So now this is my
like a first song, first project that I'm working with
Rizza that would probably cross over to like oversea.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
He likes that. He likes that type of that style
Chinese Japanese character.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Let me you said, you have been preparing to come
on Club Sha Sha for almost three months. What did
you know about Club Sha Shape?

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Why was it important for you to, like, you know what,
I want to perform and I want to perform on that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
Platform that is It's like you always talk about the
performance is performance, but the interview is like what makes
me want to be on the show. It's very spontaneous,
it's very natural and like like a conversation, real conversation,
and it's funny and serious emotional so all of that, how.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Do how does an Asian young lady? How do you
get into all the genres of music rap?

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
I used to like write poetry all the time when
I was like since I was nine years old. I
still have the books because I couldn't sleep, Like I
think I see ghosts.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
The success you see dead people.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
Huh, yeah, I don't see see like, but yeah, ever
since I was a child, I couldn't sleep at night
because I couldn't close my eyes. So I would sit
up and write poetry. So that kind of like transferred
into rap music really easily.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
So that and I couldn't really sing, so I'm like, man,
I I can't be a singer. Then I met rap.
I'm like, oh, you don't have to dose.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Yeah, you don't have I have.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
To sing, So let me try this and it it
fit me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
So when you were growing up, did you always I mean,
did you play with dolls? Did you play sports?

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Did you always know that kind of like you know,
I wanna you know, I wanna be a singer. And
then you're like, well, you know, my voice is not
really gonna carry that, but I can d rap. So
once you discovered rap, you were all in a rap.
Nothing else mattered. You didn't focus on anything else other.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
Than rap since I was fourteen sh yes, true. But
I went through like a lot of others. And then
in life I got married and I have a daughter
when I was like twenty years old, uh huh. And
then I took like ten years off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
And then my husband passed away, and then uh went
to depression and it came back out. My daughter helped
me out a lot, and I promised my daughter, I'll
be the best in Japan. After I came out of
the depression, and I am so I took. I took
like a a a minute off. But I've always I

(01:03:17):
was into like creating, writing. I never quit writing, right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Yeah, your parents when you told them that you know what,
I want to be a rapper, you came to America,
you end up having because it's you know, when you
have a child, it's already difficult when you know when
you crossing racist it it was it even more difficult
when you took when you went back home with your daughter,
and she's not full blooded Asian, she's you know, but
I I probably you probably see a lot of that

(01:03:42):
on Okinawa.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Yes, I do either, But how would you receive when
you went back home when well wait, wait, wait wait,
I'm sorrying to you have racism there in Japan?

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
Yes, yeah really but so.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Wait wait I'm sorry again. So me and him went
over there, we would have issues being black.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Not so much today, not so much today, but back
in the days. Because my daughter is seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Now, wow, you looked about Yeah yeah, yeah, I thought
you say you had like a four year old.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
I'm thirty eight years old. Yeah, so I've been through
a lot and then came back in the scene in Japan.
Maybe I was like twenty nine, thirty years old. So
it was unheard of already from my age to start, uh,
to break out. So everybody called me a big sis
and all that. But when so, I haven't seventeen years old.

(01:04:49):
But when we came back to okay, now she was
three years old, we don't have like m Luckily my
daughter didn't experience a lot of racism, okay, bullying and
all of that stuff. But I remember this one time
she had she had very like a big afro. Yeah,

(01:05:13):
and she had this cute puff two puffs, h and
I you know, tie her hair up. She was like
one day she came home and she was like, tomorrow,
please like braid my hair, please break my hair, braik
my hair. And I said why She was like, uh,
I just want you to breik my hair.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
And it turned out this boy bullied her for her
like a fluffy hair, like it's cause it's different when
she braided it into like a a one braid. It
doesn't show that much difference. So she begged me. So
then I realized there was the reason. I was like, no, like,

(01:05:52):
go like that right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Because you wanted her to accept who she is.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Yeah, And then I want her. I want him to
expect accept it for who she is, and I want
her to know he do not know what cute is.
He do not know what beauty is, He do not
know what fashion is. Go back there and watch him
and how he dressed and how he looked like and
so he was. She went, So I convinced her to go.

(01:06:18):
She went, and she came back happy, wow, And I
said what the boy said? She was like nothing, and
what he look like? He has some dirty So I said, see,
I close you. So she was like, you know, I
know what's I know what's cute? Your mama know what's cute?
Your mama know what's beautiful? I know, So just listen

(01:06:40):
to me and you're good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
So you are What what was it about Riza? Rizza's
a member of the Wu Tang. What was it about
him that made you want to work with him? Because
I know he's as t K was saying, he's big
in the karate, he's big into the martial arts thing.
And you you mentioned earlier that Okinawa is the birthplace.

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
Right, So he came to Okinawa for about a week
on a project, and I was guiding him through, oh,
like you know, different places. So I showed him in
the military base to show him the temples, the karate
dojo and the you know, the clubs. Everything. I took him.
I even took him to my parents' house. Wow, and

(01:07:22):
they have drinks together. Right, it was like a dream.
Watch my dad like cheering, yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
How did your meet? How did you meet?

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
So when he was coming to Okinawa, he was like
in need for somebody that could guide the spaces of
like Japanese hip hop, okay, and also like you know,
the local places and the traditions and the philosophies of
like these. So I knew karate. I have a first
degree black belt only first degree.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
You who haven't looked? There are a lot of rappers.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
I mean, you know, obviously Tupac's probably one of your
favorite rappers, but currently are is there any female rapper?

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Uh? Male rappers? You know?

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
You got Mad, you got Nikki, you got glow Reller,
you got you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Know, So who who would you?

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
Who would you like to jump on the project with me? Yeah?
Meghan and Gloria Yeah, and Riza talked about getting you know,
glow on a on a track. Wow, we're still trying. Okay,
we're trying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
What about guys? What? What? What? What a male rappers?

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
You rapper? Is a lot of them, But I like,
right now I'm listening, I'm listening to Lol Wayne okay
and Little Techa okay, j Carle Kendrick definitely. I just
went to his concert.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
In Detroit just to see what'd you think?

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
It was amazing. I see him, I saw his like,
this is my second time watching him and his like
the the level of art is amazing and it's always
in everybody's mood board.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
So when you came to America, you went to Atlanta
and not New York, and if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Is that where you met your husband? Yes, differently, So
why why have atl and not NYC?

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
You know when in Okinawa you see a lot of
American guys in the military, but like coming from different
places all over America, right, But I always clicked with.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
The southern, Southern.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Guys, southern you know people, and they're like this country pride.
Okinawa is kind of like the same thing. The Tokyo
is good like o Socca. They have their own culture,
but Okinawa has this like a rebellious country, so like
we are we like we are who we are. So
that type of style kind of like I was gravitated towards.

(01:09:58):
So I'm like, I'm not going to La or it's
all it's all made up. But Atlanta at that time,
it was like two thousand and six, five, two thousand
and six, it was like risy Yes, it was coming up.
So I was like, definitely Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
You met, fall in love, you go to New York.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
So that experience did you tell your parents like you
know what, I'm gonna get married and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
He's black. Yeah, it was just like that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
Well it was more than that's in my case because
at that time was like a lot happened. He was
in a street. Yeah, when I got pregnant, he got
picked up again and he got locked up. So when
I had to tell my parents, I had to tell

(01:10:48):
him not only his black but like the race part.
My parents was open minded, Okay, but damn, he's like,
what he's gone, he's away, what do you mean? So
I like, I couldn't tell him the details, So I
kind of shut shut them down. So they were worried.

(01:11:09):
They were worried so much. When he came out, I
flew him, flew my parents to meet him, and when
they met it was all good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Yeah, but I mean you speak to lingo, You're like, yeah,
you know when I met him, he was in the street,
he got picked up, you know, he got locked he
got locked up, and so you know, I had to
tell my parents. You know, he was you know, he
was on vacation for a little while real soon.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
So yeah, so what did he say to you to
get your attention? Like when y'all's out, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:42):
My my husband?

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
What was basically when he said, what was it about
him that attracted you to him?

Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
So when I was walking and I tired ass pants
and the tight pants Okay, he's walking what you said? Yeah,
so so there was he was in the car like
he hunt like stop, okay, yeah, that's so where you're going?

(01:12:16):
I said, to school because I was going to school
and and mind you, I loved going to school.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
School is, well, you going Georgia State.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
I went to Georgia Perimeter College.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Okay, okay, I know what that is. Yeah, yeah, I
done with it, Okay, done with it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
Yeah, but at that time, I was living in Clarkston.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Okay, yeah, I know exactly what that is.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
Right to day, right behind the Strokers Okay, oh you
know my Strokers, Oh, which I left right behind it
on the broken road.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Yeah Brocket exactly, Yes, walk in the broken road. Yeah.
There used to be a Ferrari dealership over there too. Well, yeah,
I'm there. I have a home in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
I've been Atlanta for like thirty five years, so I
know all the places that you're talking about. So you
behind Strogan So he pulled to the side. Hey, Arlotte,
let you right quick.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
But he's from New York, you know. He's like, you're like,
what you're doing? We're going? And I said school, and
he was like, let's go over here. Let's go over there.
And I said, no, I'm going to school if you're
gonna take me to the school, because I was already
late and I have to catch a bus in the train,
and so if he could give me a school I

(01:13:27):
know it's reckless, but if you could give me a
ride to school, I would get in the car because
I was rushing. So if you're gonna take me to
the school, I'll ride with you. He said, all right,
come on, I could have been dead, like I could
have been dead, but he took me to school. In
the ride to the school, we talked about a lot

(01:13:47):
of things, and I told him like I wrapped. I
told him I dropped like at the time, I was
design tattoo for a lot of people, like a design
tattoo for all the military guys and and okay now,
and I showed him I have a sketchbook. So I
showed him my sketchbook and he was like start like
dissecting them in the five percenter lingo. He was a

(01:14:13):
five percenter from the nation of gods on Earth. Oh
this is the you know, it's the supreme mathematic. It's
the ones and tools and like you know, so I'm like,
I've never heard of that before, Like, what are you
talking about? And it kind of like made me interested.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
You know what that's called? What sapio sexual? Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
Yes, I think I am.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Yeah, that's exactly what that's called. So he got you
off intelligence and conversation. Yes, and that's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
Yes, definitely proud.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Of you on that one. He pulled up on you
in the car. You know, I already knew. Can you
tell me his.

Speaker 5 (01:14:48):
Name as he went went by a Z because his
name the five percenter, the god's name is you asiatic? Alah, Okay,
every has all law.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
I'm just trying to see if I might have known him.

Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
That's okay, yeah, you Asiatic all Law? He was, He
would have been in his he would have been sixty
one this year.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
Yeah, it's possible, cause you're in Atlanta hustling back in
the day much to know everybody. So I pretty much
know everybody, you know, especially you know, I've been out
going to Atlanta who since nineteen eighty eight, you know,
And I grew up in Jersey City, in Harlem in
New York. So it's possible, you know. So I just
wanted to know. Yeah, yeah, say feel sexual, But I

(01:15:31):
like that you got you from conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Yes, you mentioned that once he got out, you know,
thing was okay, and then he ended up getting murdered.
Since you you know, now you gotta y'all have a
child together, He's not gonna be there to help you
rear this child. And you fell into depression, and you
said it was your daughter that helped you get out
of depression because you had to realize, like, she doesn't
have a father that's here, and if I I can't

(01:15:56):
be of service to her, if I'm dealing with these
internal issues, I need to my stuff together to make
sure she has the best life I can possibly forbide
for her.

Speaker 5 (01:16:04):
Yes, definitely, Well, she helped me through the whole depression,
like she was my support system. She was because I
was like sleeping all the time, not being able to
get out out of the bed.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Yes, or get out of that funk that you was in.

Speaker 5 (01:16:23):
Right, But I kept on writing, like writing diaries and
writing on the like confusions. But it was definitely my daughter,
and it was Another one is the conversation with my dad.
My father went through the war like he was born.
He didn't went through the war as a grown up.

(01:16:46):
But he was born on the day of the Park Harvard.
Oh okay wow, nineteen forty one. Yes, so post war era.
And he saw his mom or his you know, brother,
like lose their lives or like more on the loss
of their loved ones and things like that. So and

(01:17:09):
he and he's like, don't feel entitled because you lost
your husband, because everybody has lost their loved ones or
their friends or their family in Okay now and they
still survived. And that's why you're here today. And when
he said that, it clicked in my head. If I
am truly proud of my family or like where I'm from,

(01:17:30):
I have to stand up.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
And it's tough.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
Yeah, it's keep going. And when I so I didn't
have nothing to lose at that time, When when I
when I have the support from my family and I
don't have nothing to lose, what do I wanna do?
I said music? And when I decided to get back

(01:17:53):
on the music, I have to be the best, like
I promised my daughter, watch me, I'll be an inspiration
to you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
So I have one more question, I think we go,
what's your plans as you get older? When the music stops?

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
I want to build a school. That's why I have
a charity now. It supports kids from Okinawa to study abroad.
This is my second year. Last year we started it,
we launched it. We do one hundred kids homestay within
Oaking Hour into American families, like because we utilize we.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Can utilize studying abroad.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Right, No, I think she said, the American family are
in Okawa and you put you put the children with
American family so they.

Speaker 5 (01:18:45):
Can learn like a like a different culture with the
way of their life within oakin hour, like utilizing the
unique situation that we have Oak Island and then they
take exam at one hundred kids three can go to
Atlanta to study for a week, Okay, And then this

(01:19:10):
year we're doing the same thing. Plus we picked two
kids from Atlanta to go to Okinawa. So cool, Yes,
and we are I'm looking to like expand the days
because we could only like do short days now because
of the budget. But I'm looking to expand that to
kind of like so that they can learn for.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
A year or like, yes, real makes a difference.

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
Yeah, it makes a difference, and then you know, bring
that back to their own community and help them have.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Another question in your in your city of country Okinawa City, right, Yes,
depending you guys have a rich caught in there? What
is it a bridge the hotel? Because I'm into like
I'm spoiled. Yeah, I'm bie. Yeah, I come from the streets,
but I work hard. If my sheet, my thread count

(01:20:04):
got to be on point. So because I go to
different parts of the world and I've been there, like
I'm not on trip. No, I can't do it. Dog,
I stopped that. Everything I do now got to be
on point because I'm into being the final thing. I
gotta have it man a lot, and I'm not afraid

(01:20:25):
to say it. You know, I'm from I'm from the
streets and I've been through all that. But when I
go to certain countries, do you have four seasons? The
rich Carlton, the Waldorf Astoria? Yeah, I gotta.

Speaker 5 (01:20:43):
In Japan definitely, Okay, now or do we have four seasons?
I don't think we have.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
As long as you got the writs Rich Hyatt, I
rock with I can rock maybe, okay, curious, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
But it's a it's so and part of Okaw is resources.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
It's a lot of like because that's really one of
my plans to come to I travel the world. I
was just in Berlin. I was just in Great Britain.
But one of the things is I wanted to do Japan.
But what I was looking for who had the city
of Mama in New York, right right? That's that's what's important.
I wanted to go to the city like I didn't
want to do. My daughters like the culture and all
that they could do. What the hell they want to

(01:21:23):
do it? I'm old. I'm just want to lay in
bed at my expresso, get my hands and feet done.
That's what I want to do. Stick. I'm crazy, but
I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:34):
Yeah, we do have it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
So what can fans expect from a Witch? Moving forward?
Twenty twenty five and beyond.

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
I'm coming out with a project with Ritzo, fully produced
by Rizzo. And that album we have the song that
I just performed, and the first song is called Wax
and Wax sau It's featuring for and Lupa Fiasco be
because Lupe is a true samurai and he know all

(01:22:05):
kinds of martial arts.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
He didn't You didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
I did not.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
His father owns a dojo in Chicago, so as as
he grew up. He knows all kinds of like Buddo,
like all the martial arts he can do. Source Sormanship, Karate,
Joe Doojo, Judea.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
Yeah, so you can never judge a book by his cover.
So years ago you could argue with someone when I
was going up, you can go fist fighting. Now you're
getting an argument. You gotta really think you don't know
what a person know, right, you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Gotta be you gotta be looking looking at somebody's ears.
They got you go you know, you gotta go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
And that's why, just to put this out there, that's
why on your interview, if anybody would get into an argument,
always do it a gentleman and lady way because you
never know what the person standing in front of you
it's capable of doing. Because I think a loover, I
would never think like, I know, not trying to do
this some anything. I just like, I'm a mazed, Yeah

(01:23:06):
and I'm impressed. Wow, that's awesome. So you got a
project coming out with him? Is also he's just on
your project, he's on my project. And how long did
it take your you still working on the album?

Speaker 5 (01:23:16):
Yes, I'm rapping up.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
And how many songs do you have on there already?

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
Like ten?

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
So ten? Okay? Okay? And when is the do you
know your release date?

Speaker 5 (01:23:24):
September?

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
September? Now you're going through your own label or you
being distributed by someone.

Speaker 5 (01:23:29):
My own label?

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Wow? Independent.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
That's what I wanted to hear and the reason why
I asked that question. I used to tour it New
Edition and one when when Bobby Brown left New Audition,
we did a concert. I met a man in Easy
and one thing I know what Easy he did. He
he put six thousand dollars up for Straight Out of Compton, right,
that was the hit. This budget, that's what he spent
and he made twenty seven million dollars off Straight out Compton.

(01:23:55):
So I've always from d in in movies, TV music industry.
I always ask people are they going independent? And you
really believe in yourself you'll go independent because you cut
out the bullshit and that's how you never get playing.
That's why The Doctor Dres and Ice Cube is always
won compared to the East Coast and hip hop because

(01:24:17):
they own no one could tell them what to do it.
Ownership it's everything. So I'm proud of you on that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Thank you, thank you, thanks for coming back. Do you
know much about kanyac kanyak?

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
Yeah, you know about it, But I have my own
Saki random socket. I want you to try.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Okay, absolutely will rocket rocket.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
So this is habs I said it right, And what
it is it ain't got that snake in they do it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:45):
It's a snake in there, not inside like, not the
snake itself, but it has the snake extract in it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
Okay, that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
And it's an oak own tradition to marinate snake in
the socket because it used to kill like this is
a business. Habu is the name of the snake. He
used to kill people like it used to buy people.
Got you know. So they have to kill the snake,
but instead of throwing it away, they thought to put

(01:25:13):
it in their drink and drink their strength into themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
So instead of the snake letting the snake bite themIn die,
they figure they have marinated the snake and drink that
and die.

Speaker 5 (01:25:21):
Yes, turned out turned out it's full of amino acid.
It's good for you. It never give you hangover, and
it's aphrodisiac.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
Oh that's that's let's I think we should let's try
that now.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Yeah, we got some more glasses.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
Let me I got I go to go taking knockouts
out our last dream.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
All right, Kanyak, you would afford to be a Kanyak.
It has to originate in the in the region, in
the Konjac region. Now this is a V S O P.
That means it has to be aged between four and
six year years. So any any Kanyac, it has to
originate there the first two years of its existence. It
has to originate in the Kanyac region. It's a great
and people don't I don't know if people realize realize this,

(01:26:10):
but Kanyak originates from a great This is an only
bloc grape.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
And a petite champagne.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
So it's a combination four to six years and we
won like thirteen fourteen awards.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
We won the Simple Awards twice. This is this is
my I.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
Didn't know that I got.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Let me go you some water, but you know about
you know about to open it, to drop the water here, to.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Open it up.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
I'm just I'm just gonna present that was my drink.
But actually, if you if you drop a if you
drop a thing of water in there, it'll open up
the body. Okay, Yeah, because you can't control it with
an ice cube because the ice is gonna mal Yeah,
ice cube.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Is gonna malt. It's gonna give you more water than
what you need. But a drop of water it'll open
it up.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
But congratulations that knowledge.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
I'm gonna be using your shit on the fuckers you're saying,
and you put a little water. There's a drop of
water in that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Wow, you took that to the head.

Speaker 5 (01:27:02):
Oh not supposed.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
I thought, you know, you know, we see it and
you know, like, hey, yeah, how you doing so?

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:27:09):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
How was your day to day?

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
You have to it's usually it's usually a sip drink. Yeah,
you didn't know, you know, we.

Speaker 5 (01:27:17):
Do it like this.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Do you do it like that? You big girl? All right,
let's that's try your snake snake extract.

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
Yes, but it has thirteen different types of herbs, so
it's aromatic.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Am I supposed to just drink ticket all day?

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
Really? I don't know. After theo's hearing this, God dang anymore?
Was just gonna do You're gonna drink with us? Yes? Okay,
here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
We come by is Japanese word for cheers, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
Come come, come cher Okay, it tastes good.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
It does. It's sweet.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
It tastes good. Yes, it's the It taste a little
cinnamon in the end, Yes, right in my right, I take.
I taste cinnamon on the end.

Speaker 5 (01:28:13):
It's got cinnamon. It's got thirteen different types of herbs.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
And do you have extra bottle?

Speaker 5 (01:28:19):
I do, I do you, but you have.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
To sign it for me. And you have to sign
his too, like sign it with your name on it. Yes,
that would be nice.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Well, thank you for joining us. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:28:29):
Thank you, Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
God.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
I'm coming over there so I'll give you my information.
I'm saying that the rich though.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, rustle the price,
one slice got the swat all my life, grinding all
my life, all my life, grinning all my life, sacrifice,
hustle the price, one slice got the brons swash. All
my life be grinding all my life,

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