Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Joe Iso Johnson react to Lamar Jackson being the reason why the ping pong tables and games were taken out of the locker room, and Mercedes Lewis joins the show to talk about him recently signing to the Broncos and making it 20 years in the NFL and much more!
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Speaker 3 (03:00):
We got a very special guest joining us.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
New Broncos tight end Marcedes Love joins us a bit later.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Oh Joe, this will be his twentieth season season.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
A Hey, that's a that's a blessing.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah, yeah, you know how long hold on, long on?
I don't think people understand it. Hey, Joe.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
You know how long twenty is is for a tight end's.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Never been done.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Whitney Gonzo has the record at seventeen, so well, he
has the record, but the previous record. I mean, those
two guys played seventeen and we understand how long Tony
Gonzales played and Jason Witton he surpassed that. So he's
been at it for a minute. Congratulations to him, but
we'll talk to him in a minute. Lamar Jackson confirmed
(03:45):
he was the reason behind the Ravens removing the ping
pong tables games from the team locker room. Let's take
a listen to what Lamar had to say about this.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
I told Ko our head equipment God told him to
take the games and ping pong turning TVs off. If
we could have took the TV's out, it would have
been out too. But I appreciate missus Steven putting that
enough for us, you know. But yeah, we had to focus.
I wouldn't say people don't take the job series, don't
get me wrong, but like I didn't feel like it
(04:16):
was the time for that.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
You know, we got a lot of we got a
lot of work to do take back. I don't know
if you guys, we got a graphic.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
This is what.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Room probably happened to make sure the summertime OT is
or something, But right now that's not the focus.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
My bad.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, Lamar had a little bit more to say, but
here's the graphic of what the Ravens locker room looked
like without any gaming tables or any other It looks naked.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It looks naked.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Oh Joe, Look, I think I think Marlon Humphrey kind
of dined him out at the beginning, because I think
Marlon was on a pot podcast and he said, the
two the two most important players, the two most popular
players on the team, best two best players on the team.
Where you kind of narrowed it down, you know one
of them is Lamar and then if you gonna say
Derrick Henry or Ray Rocann Smith, but we knew mar
(05:16):
L Jack was one of them. I said, you know what,
I'm gonna take the guest work out of it. I'm
gonna take the suspicion out of it. I did it.
I went to the training and say look, blah blah blah,
so for the song, and they got it done. Oh Joe,
you got a problem.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
With this, But honestly, I don't have a problem with
they were one and five, now they're two and five.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Listen, having games, video games and all the extra stuff.
The TV's inside of the locker room. That's a privilege, junk,
that's a privilege.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
And when you're losing the way they're losing right now,
especially defensive, they play horrible, all the extra stuff it
needs to be gone, all the distractions having fun.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
What you on the video game for?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And you won?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
And five?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
What you're on the video what's you on the video
game for? And they throw three hundred plus y'alls on
your defense? You can't tackle. You don't deserve to have
the extra privileges that you get in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
You all about business. You want to play the video game.
Wait you get home. We want to watch TV. Wait
till you get home. So I understand. And it had
to take.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Somebody like Lamar to do it, because anybody else tried
to pull that, oh man, they would have been talking
trad would.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You ass down? Exactly?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
But listen, Lamar, Lamar is the only one that can
pull that trigger. And ain't nobody gonna pep a goddamn sound.
But it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
The right thing to do, honestly, Joe, Hey, I agree,
I agree, man. You know when you lose and that
it magnifies everything everything.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Hey, hey, you're looking for.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Any little thing and there like okay, get the damn
ping ponte byt there to pool?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You want you want it all gone, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 8 (06:45):
Because you know those little distractions, you know it could
it could, It could add up in a big game
or in practice. It could take your focus away because look,
you go to competing too hard on that. You can't
wait for practice to be over and you right back
on it, you know what I mean? Hey, I agree
with Lamar. Man, Hey, get all that up out of here.
We'll have fun at OTA's or something in the summertime
or summer. Right now, we got to lock in, man,
(07:06):
the rest of the season is very value and important
for well.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Listen, hey, Joe, I like we just say, hey, let
me tell you something. Taking them video games out, taking
out the ping pong tables and the pool table, maybe
not even having no music. You want to listen to music,
put you goddamn earphones on. But I can tell you
one thing. Tomorrow night when they come down there to
the hard rock give me they finish, go home with
another l So, moving all that furniture, rearranging all that
(07:32):
furniture out there in the locker room ain't gonna mean
nothing with them. Dophin put put built the ass tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Man, Joe, Joe, just for a second, Joe, I agree
with everything you said. But oh, Joe, I remember we
had a conversation and you told me that ain't got nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
To do with winning.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
What we talked about it about stuff that we do
when you loose.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Let me ask you a question. When they were winning,
what were they doing? Were they playing ping pong? Were
they playing PlayStation ping pong?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Let me ask you a question. Did that go to
them winning ball games?
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh, but it ain't going to Joe. You heard what
he said that, Joe, He said it didn't have them win.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, listen, stay with me
real quick, stay with me, real quick.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
When it comes when it comes to teams, they seem
they think, if they seem to think, this is what's
best for us to win games, So be it.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Honestly, honestly, it had nothing to do with wins and losses.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
What you do when you're not there on on out
there on the field, had nothing to do with wins
and losses.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
That's mine games, that's my game.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Maybe if we remove this stuff from in the locker room,
maybe the outcome of a game is gonna be difference.
It ain't gonna be no goddamn difference. The games are
one on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
And Saturday to walk through. That's it. What you're doing
in that locker room, ain't got nothing to do it.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I'll just be in. But I agree with you guys.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Listen, I hear this out.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Hey, you know how I am Joe.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, way to the book come out when I when
they find out what all I did that they didn't
know about.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That was that's what you need to worry about.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But I agree with it because the thing is is
that what like what you guys said, is that I
need to be I need to be the focus because
now you ain't. Hey man, let let's let's let's play
a game right here, Let's shoot pool, let's play let's plays.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Five blah blah blah nah.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Get your ass in your playbook, right, That's what you
need to do because all I know is that team
doesn't matter who we play who the quarterback? Is he
looking like Patrick Mahomes when he play us? That's all
I know. I don't know anything else. But the guy
looks like Patrick Mahomes when he plays us. So something
is not It's not computing all that stuff you want.
(09:43):
You like shooting pool, either go to the bill your
hall or put a pool table in your damn house.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
You like players five? Wait, team, that's the problem. You're
paying too much.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You're playing your homeboys, your friez, or you're former college
when you take your ass home, or you're not putting
enough time on the iPad. I don't have any problem
with this because Lamar as the leader. This is what
this is leadership. This is what you're supposed to do.
Sometimes it's just all about how well you play. Sometimes
you have to take measures that's unpopular.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Now. I'm sure some guys don't like the a man.
They ain't got nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
But what they gonna say?
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Who want? People?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Who want?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
People?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Sound in that locker room Joe When Joe say, you
know what, man, we don't need this, We don't need this.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
No mo I men ate, I men ate.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
That's what I'm trying to say, who gonna say something? Man, man, please,
But that's the thing. Look at you're right, you're right.
Like I said, Look, I remember we're losing the game. Hey,
we didn't we didn't have lunch. Dan told her, I
ain't feel you. Sorry, you know what, go get your
own lunch.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Okay, you can get it. I'm just not paying for
we just not paying for it. I say, you couldn't eat,
so you got an hour to get your ass to
wherever you wanted, whatever you wanted me obviously, you know
we get back. Obviously you're not going anywhere to sit,
you know, sit down and eat, and you're not gonna
get anything heavy. But but that's that's the way it
(11:09):
that's the way it goes. I mean, when you losing, Hey,
sitting on your hel me. They don't know I'm sitting
on my helmet. What that gotta do with why we losing.
I've been I was sitting on my helm when we
was winning. The locker room was nasty.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
When we was winning.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
We gotta clean up all whatever you're like, Oh Joe,
you said it very clearly. It's mentally. Maybe that's the read.
Maybe all you want somebody like, damn man, they took
them games up out of there.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Man, we're playing. Okay, what else can we remove? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I got a question. Hey, I got a question, Joe,
A chap for you for those of you that are listening.
What happened when you remove all that stuff and you
still get wooded?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And we can live with we can live with the results.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
Oh yeah, but we we ain't had no distractions coming
into practice. We ain't got coming in that time. Oh yeah,
I'm gonna get it. Yeah yeah, we ain't got to.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Have your money talking the money rail like like you're
the joke, Joorde, because you know where you gambled.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, you put the money up under the rail.
Speaker 8 (12:03):
Oh yeah, right right, Hey look then you know it
against so serious. I came in there with my own
pool sticky. I can't wait today, you know what I'm saying.
Real now, we're all out of whack. We we got
a whole game plan we gotta think of.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
But you know what, I can honestly say, I can
only remember a handful of times with me. Actually, the
only time I can only remember that I actually watched television.
Y'all know what it was? The OJ trial. Oh that
was the only that was the only time that I
can remember actually watching, you know, and I wasn't like
sitting down the whole hour watching it, get my work
(12:36):
out in, see what was going you know, see what
was going on, like let me go get take get
my ass, get my ass on this field.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So that was really the only time.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And then one of but that was that was like
on a Tuesday that was our off day the World
Trade Center. I remember walking in and I saw Bill
to fall.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
With damn is that real? You know, like, God, that
is't that ain't even that ain't even real. It didn't
even seem real.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So I remember walking and talking to Bill Testendorf, who
was out head training at the time. I say, task,
I just saw like like the World Trade Centers, like,
go there is that like a movie. He's like, Nah, Sharpie,
that's that's real. I said, really, I said, what happened?
It's like, I don't know, look like somebody you know,
crashed into it. So same day, I remember taking my dog.
(13:23):
I took my dog over there, had a my key
at the time, and I let him run around while
I went and worked out. He done slipped the front
of the damn fence and gone somewhere now, I said,
cause I know the phone was trying to call my sister.
Always called my sister on my way over there. The
phone was just busy. I was like, women, women's a
(13:44):
cell phone busy. I tried to call my homework bucket.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
It's busy. I try to call Burns. It's busy. I'm like,
what damn?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So it didn't dawn on me. And then when I
saw that, it didn't look real. And the next thing
I know, I say, now I understand why what's going on?
But who watches?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Who goes? I don't know. I shouldn't say that. Who
watches TV when they go to work? I don't. I
don't watch TV or not. This was but I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I don't watch team. But I don't have a problem.
That's what leadership should be. That's what Lamar should have done,
and he shouldn't have he shouldn't. Look y'all know who
did it. I mean, I'm surprised John Harvard didn't do it,
But he didn't want to come off of like, oh,
coach doing that because but when we were winning, he
didn't take up. He didn't blah blah blah, X Y
and Z. You know, how it goes. I'm glad Lamar
(14:38):
did that. I'm glad Lamar stepped up, showed the leadership
that has been bestowed upon him that he earned. He
didn't deserve it, he earned that with his play. He's
one of the ten your senior tenure players.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
That are there. If he can't say taking our X,
Y and Z, well, who can.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Listen?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
And one more thing before we go into the next subject.
I just want I just want to add for the chat, Joe.
I want to let you know, I know they took
no well, Lamar took the right measures, you know, to
make sure.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
The team focuses and do what they need to do. Offensive.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Lamar gonna take care of his business. But the defense
ain't nothing happen. Ain't nothing happened. Listen tomorrow. I'm going
to the game tomorrow. Yemmi, hey, two off throw for
three hundred yem me.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Hey, hey, hey, hello three? What behind my ass? What
is Lamar Jackson going to do?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I mean, knowing Lamar first game back, he might be
he might be a little rusty. He might be a
rusty he had thought about maybe about about.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
Two ten man obaroa win Player of the Week. Hey,
it's mighty funny. Oh Joe, you got all this confidence
into it now. But just a couple of weeks ago
when we was on here, yeah, you talking about him
throwing picks.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
He was like, I was like, man, maybe he gonna
turn around. I said it was early. He was like
a man right right.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
He went out there and had a hell of a
game against the fire Because and now you you back
on the band, Well.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I never jumped off the band back and Joe, when
when when Toy played bad? It's something that I had
the problem with critiquing players and not not really saying
when they're playing bad.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I made excuses for him, Joe, I ain't making no
excuse me for when you play bad. I'm gonna let
you know, and I'm gonna say it loud. I'm gonna
say it proud. I'ma screaming I'm screaming from the hill
like Jack and Jail.
Speaker 10 (16:20):
You hear me.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
So you got them beating you got them beating the Ravens.
Oh yeah, absolutely, Joe.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I'm going to the game. It's at the hard Rock, Joe.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
The hard Team bet the Ravens. That man ain't been
to a game this year and the team that he
went their support and.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Won the game.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Hold on, no, no, no, no, excuse me coming when
you went to the when you went to the Bengals game,
tell the people at home what happened.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
We won, We won the last game I went to.
What was the last game you went to when they
played the steel erp No, you didn't go to that game.
I did go to that game.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I was there. I don't know that sounds suspecting me.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Remember I was in the Remember I was in the hotel.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I had to lead the.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Game in the fourth quarter of the Come yeah, I
remember you left the game in the fourth quarter another
game and came home too.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Legs on that game.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Absolutely not absolutely, but listen, listen, let's let's listen.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I don't mean to jump off topic. If Joe Burrow
wasn't hurt, you know, the Bankers be six and we'll
be sixty two.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You know the season. How many seasons have you said
that since he's been in the league. You used that
if Joe Burrow wasn't hurt, you used that more than man.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Wait, wait a minute, what you want me to do
about that? I can't, I can't.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I'm not in control of him, you know, getting injured
to being healthy. I'm just saying that he was healthy
full time. I'm telling you where we would be at.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
But it's more, it's more probable than not. There's a
greater probability that he gets hurt based on his tenure
in the NFL than him not.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Am I correct? Yes or no? Think about it.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
He is basically his whole of this season torn a knee.
He missed what last year, a year before last with
the rest. Now he's gonna miss the better part of
this season with a foot, with a toe. So that's
this has kind of been his mo since he's been
in the league.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I got you, I got you. But listen, get the
injuries out the way early in your career.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Get the injuries out the way early in the career,
and you know we probably we'll probably win the Super
Bowl next year.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Oh Joe, how you gonna get the injuries out when
it's that offensive line? What got him hurt? What what
got him hurt? His rookie year? Offensive line was terrible.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
What happened in the game tweaked the offensive line, His
toe got tackled from flushed out of the pocket.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Offensive line. So I mean, y'all got a new one
coming in. I don't know about No, we don't.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
But everybody can't have the matter of fact, everybody can't
have the Philadelpha Eagles offensive line.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Everybody can't have the goddamn and y'all just don't need
to have the bad news. Okay, you gonna have the
bad news bearers or the replacement offensive line. If you
don't have that, you be fad. But but but but
also let me say this, hey, Joe, let me say
this too.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Also with with on Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
But you got to get the ball that you.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Han, baby, You have to get the ball out your hands,
you know, waiting to scramble, because you're very good at
extending plays.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
We know, we know you.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
You know, got a little Michael VICKI And you're not
as fast. You can maneuver the pocket.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I say you're not.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
You got a little you when it comes.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Let me let me finish.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
I just said not as fast. But his ability to
maneuver in the pocket and manipulate it and extend plays
a second to none. But he don't got no speed.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
That's all you talking about, Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Oh yeah, hey, hey, Joe, he could extend to play
like a mother. You hold on to the ball just
a tab it based on his offensive line. Of course
he holds on to the ball too long. But you
got to let the players develop. And a lot of
times he's thinking like, oh, yeah, we protected here, or
(19:59):
you have a break down there. Somebody didn't slide the
right way, somebody didn't get over far enough, the back
didn't do didn't do a good enough job of chipping
on his way out.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
There's a lot of things that play into a sack.
It's not always on the offensive line, it's not always
on the quarterback. Sometimes it's a combination. And a lot
of times it seemed like they're taking turns. Line doesn't
do what it's supposed to, Joe doesn't get the ball
out of his hand fast enough.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Running back donet chip or do his job good enough.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And so it's just one after another, and it just
it's a snowball effect that gets larger and larger.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Just just a small example before we're going to the
next top of the game. I want to look I
want you to look at Joe Flacco. When Joe quacko
has played, he's plays he started three weeks. Look at
him when he played against the Steelers, got the ball
out of his hands, yes the way right away.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Joe got sacked one time.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Joe ain't get sacked to the fourth quarter, waiting on
a longer play to develop, which was going downfield, and
that was the only way.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
That was the only reason tj W was able to
get back there.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
But outside of that, every time Joe getting that ball one, two, three, boom,
it's out of there quick. So even if the line
and it is playing bad, it's somewhat looks a little
different with Joe Flacco back there because you're getting rid
of the goddamn ball fast as hell with his decision making. Now,
I'm not saying Joe Borrow can't do that. I'm just
saying at times he needs to get rid of it
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very fast and get it out of.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Oh joey Joe.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
The Bears trolled the Ravens posted this video on social
media of Bears players competing in games in the locker
room and the facility.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
They playing shot. Oh we had what you had in
the locker room. Now they're playing pe they playing peek,
they're playing darts on the game Paddy. Yeah, we had
a pop, Oh Joe, that was money. That was money.
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Oh y'all gambling, y'all a gamp shot, yes.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
He we had pe We had ping pong tournaments. Ye
oh yeah, we had back.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
I'm talking about like a couple of people play before practice,
a couple of people playing after pray.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Look here, I know how we come. Hey, you come
and put your per dimn money down? Oh we bet money,
So like we get that money per dimn. Oh, Joe,
you put that thing down. Hey, if we shoot something,
people two people make it, it go back. You can
have ten people up there. If only one make it,
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you get all them per diems.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Oh okay, like that.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So we get like we get like workout checks. So
you know ota, Oh Joe, you get a workout check.
It's probably like two fifty three hundred dollars. So I
go upstairs, I get my check. I bet, hey, bet
the check, because that's what everybody would do.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Bet the check. Don't even look at it, Joe, just
bet the check. All right.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
You know we're shooting, okay, like may we're gonna go. Hey,
we'll finish this up. Lead the checks right there in
the knocker. So we come back. I make mine. Two
dudes missed there. It was me and Burns. I think
it was me and Burns and a house. I think
of me Burns a house. But anyway, we were shooting.
I opened their check int like three fifty. My check
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was seventy thousand dollars. They had old they had Oh,
they had owed me from last.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Year some money.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Okay, okay, okay, so you got I got you lucky.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You didn't know because I didn't open the check. See
the thing, you're Joe, you can't open it. You gotta
shoot that blind.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I don't know about that. Oh that's how we got
to do it.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Joe. You got to shoot that thing's blind because I
see if you know what's in there, you ain't gonna
do it. I want you at a. Just put it
on the just put a just put it po dim
right there, put it right. Y'all Play card, Joe, y'all
play cards. Yeah, y'all play in between bou ray tuk.
We played bow ray in between guts.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah. Uh, ain't ain't nothing nice playing them games.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Joe, noa, no spade.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well it's hard, it's hard to play. They don't really
play spade for money. We placed a spade for pride.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Hey, oh Joe. Yeah, it may be a sensitive subject
right now, but the boy love the gamble man, Oh
for sure. He Listen, Joe, that's everywhere. Yeah, that's everywhere.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I mean obviously they're I mean, they made it legal,
which is which is kind of weird. How do you
make it legal?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
And then all of a sudden you surprise that people
are actually gambling now, like you do know, right, I'm wrong,
So I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
But you know what they're getting them on. They're gonna
put they're gonna fix it. So if you're player, you
can't bet on the props. It's the prop best that's
getting them. It's not the winner lose. The game is
over under the minutes, it's over under the shot attempts.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
It's all that.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
It's the it's that's those kind of stuff. It's the
injury report. Joe Man, you know a man, you know Joe, Uh,
how is Joe Man?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Joe wasn't even mad? Shoot around. Joe ain't playing today.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Now that information is gonna come public at about three hours,
but it's not public now, so they're getting a head
start on the info.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
So that's this way. Listen, that's what the NBA is
trying to me up in the bud.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
They're trying to get like, oh, we we've got to
do a better job of curtailing this the injury report.
That's why they make the injury reports public, o Cho,
because just the magic if they weren't public and only
a hand but.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Only a handful of people know anyway, man, listen, Ocho.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
In twenty twenty, I played in the TBT that's the
UH that's the the basketball league for like ten million
dollars meeting and I played on the team and it
was doing COVID. So they had us locked in this
UH hotel in Ohio. So the night before the game,
my homeboy who was here in Atlanta, he called me
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the night before the game.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
He said, hey, man, they they got you, they got you.
You should think over under eighteen points for you tomorrow.
I hung up. I'm like, listen, listen, listen, don't call me.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
I don't know who.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah right, And I don't want.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
I don't want to go into the game with no
preconceived notion that I gotta get twenty five points. Just
let me right, you know, so I can I can
see where some of these dudes homeboys hitting them and
telling them, Hey, man, ye'll be thinking about it.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
Man.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I ain't.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Man, I ain't practiced all week. Man, I ain't playing.
They got that thing if questionable or bro I ain't playing.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
He's right, right, But.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That gambling, that gambling, if you got to gamble with
people that you know, because gambling, I don't see a
lot of fights break out about that money.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Hey, hold on, wait a minute, Wait a minute. You
heard the first thing you said, which is obviously a lie.
You got the gambled with people you know? Because I
done seen some of the best of friends fall out
when it comes to money.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Hell, I don't seen family fall out money.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
How about people that that's gonna pay.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Because hey, you start playing me and you vote no
one in them that part to get that party in between,
to get up twenty five fifty one hundred thousand like that.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I've been I've been in a pot that got to
be thirty five thousand. We had a pot so high,
were like, hey, man, just forget it. Hey, everybody good, Hey,
because hey, nobody want that because I already know. Boy,
you lose one hundred thousand, how you gonna focus on
the gable? Hold on listen. Listen, cause the way you play,
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oh yo, let's just say we're playing cards. Okay, a
ace come, you gotta call it high low, and then
the next car. So if I get an ace, I'm
gonna say hi, the next car come. Let's just say
it's a five, I say plotted. As long as the
car comes in between that, long as it comes six king,
I'm good. If it comes on the edges, which is
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another ace or another five, you gotta double what's in
the pot. So if the pot is ten thousand, you
gotta double it to twenty five, not a parts thirty thousand.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
You seen your hand between going to the super. Between
me and we all played, we have some good old time.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
The party got to like probably got to like eight thousand,
then they got to like ten burns. The hell I
was selling my cars, I said, hey, so he said, man,
he said, homeboy, he said.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
He said, but I can't go home and tell Michelle
I lost this. It was it was a king, it
was a five king five.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I was like, damn.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I said, what you want to do, homeboy? He said, Man,
I'm selling these cars. I said, don't worry about it.
I got you covered I said, I got to cover.
I said, what we're gonna do?
Speaker 7 (28:40):
We go.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I said if I if we lose, if I lose,
if we lose, I put the money. If we win,
I'll split it with you. I wouldn't do that with
anybody else. Now it is all my boo. You what
about me? You wouldn't do that?
Speaker 7 (28:56):
You?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
First of all, your wasn't even in the league. You
was in college in ninety eight. Where were you at
in ninety eight?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Ninety eight? Boy, I was a junior in high schoo No,
I was a sophomore in a college.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
So it was a king and it was a five.
I was like, I said, let's hey, homeboy, let's just
pot it.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
The pot is like ten.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
If we get hit on the edge, if a king
or five, come on, Joe, we gotta double the pot.
Now if it comes a four or eight, we just
have to match the pot. Right.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
That thing came six.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Guy didn't have enough money to put it up. So
we had to put Super Bowl tickets up because we
going to the Super Bowl. Because you know how long
it takes you to get from Denver to Miami. So
a lot of money changed hands.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Go Yeah, I hey, Joe, I know, I know you
got some good gaming stories. You ain't gotta put no
name on the door and listen.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
When when I was playing here in Atlanta, me, Josh Smith,
Mike Bibbie, Big, Jason Collins, like we used to we
used to gamble, ohchother and like when you get off
the plane, if you if you won seven or eight
thousand dollars, that was a pretty good day, right, I mean, boy,
when I got to Houston playing with James Harden and
see people and PJ. Tucker and they getting off the plane,
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oh in each other one hundred and forty thousand, said,
I ain't playing with y'all.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Whoa whoa tip.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Just used to watch I used to watch. I ain't
never used to play with them.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Hold on, Joe, you're not finna say that like that,
like it's normal.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
On how much?
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Yeah, one hundred and forty thousand, hundred and seventy thousand,
eighty thousands by in bitcoin.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Or American dollars with no bitcoin back then money on
that money.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Hey hey, I heard stories like guy, you had to
come to the you had to come to the table
with one hundred, one hundred and fifty two eighty thousand
in cash just to sit at the what and if
you're like gambling, you couldn't sit in You're like, nah, bro,
you got to go.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Nah, I'm just here with such and such that ain't
got nothing to do with me. Yeah, oh jo could look,
you gonna come to the table with that little to
five hundred trying Yeah, yeah, yeah you try, Yeah, bang,
gonna let you do it. That's gonna last you two rounds,
home boy, you're gonna be out of that. That's how
most that's how most people get.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
That's how most big heavyweights gamble is that you gotta
come with X amount of dollars. You gotta come with
fifty one hundred, two hundred quarters of a million dollars
in cash just to just to just to get in
and sit in the room. Because you're not fitna be
no bystander. They don't need no cheerleader there, don't need
none of that.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
But but but this ath though, it ain't like no boys,
none of that. This is all athletes. Man Oak Oak
love to gamble like that, big yeah oak Tree.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
But I know another guy that liked to gamble like
that and talking about yeah you know, uh you know,
are we staying at such and such. I think ain't
got nothing do with me. That man, that dude right
here here. I said, Bro, I said, you're not finna
get my house. I'm sorry, Bro, I'm good. I'm good.
I don't want to I don't want to say I
guess what I took fifty K. I took up no, no,
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because he got that kind of money that every time
you play you nervous because you know you can't put
him under the gud.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
You can't put him at risk.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
See, the whole thing is to put some when you
play it with cash money and it's right down the table.
The whole thing is to put the guy at risk.
You can't put him if you can't put it. If
you can't, yeah, if you can't put him at risk,
because he will cover it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
We got our special guests joining us. He just signed
with the Broncos, playing in his twentieth season. Played a
grand total of two hundred and eighty five career games
from playing University of California at Los Angeles aka u
c l A. Harriets, Ladies and Gentlemen, mar Sades Lewis,
(32:46):
what's up, brother, I'm good man.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
How you doing bro, I'm doing well.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Man.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
Just everything happened so fast.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
It was.
Speaker 10 (32:54):
Like, obviously I played nineteen last year, I didn't get
picked up for camp, didn't do ot. This was the
first time I hadn't been in camp, So it was
a mental It was messing with me mentally for a
second because it's something that I've been used to and
I'm one of those that I love camp. I love
building that gristle and getting ready for the season. So
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when I didn't get picked up, it was like, Okay,
you know, how do I want to go about this?
And so I just was kind of more introspective about
it and just kind of was in a state of allowing,
meaning like not resisting nor forcing what was meant for me.
I come back from Joshua Tree, I go to a
place where I recover at getting a sauna. I get
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a call from a Denver number, and obviously I didn't
answer it because I didn't have it.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
I'm thinking of spam. I'm like, man, what is this?
Speaker 10 (33:44):
So the number calls back probably like three minutes later,
and I'm like, I still look at my phone didn't
answer it, and then the GM left the message like yo,
big dog, give me a call. This is George Payton
GM at the Broncos want to talk to you for
a second. So I called him back and literally right there,
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and this was Monday, he was like, Yo, can you
fly out here tonight?
Speaker 7 (34:07):
And I was like, mind you.
Speaker 10 (34:08):
I've never been in this situation before, like I've always
been contracted, So it was just different, feeling this, you know,
feeling this right, and so I'm like, you know what,
Yeah I could fly out there. So I hopped through
the flight like a room eight, got got to Denver
like round eleven thirty at night, sat on the tarmac
for like fifty minutes, then then went to the hotel
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and then literally next day Tuesday, worked out, took my
physical and shit signed on the spot.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Man.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
So it's it's definitely a different experience.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah you tell them, hell yeah you fly? You buy
I fly? Come on now, yeah, you buy, I fly,
no doubt.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Hey, merceays, was it ever the thtart of your mind
that you will be able to, for one make it
into the league is one thing you want to play,
You want to have a healthy career, You want to
squeeze in as many.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Years as you can, obviously, But did you ever think
you get to your twenty.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
Man, I thought, you know, obviously coming out of UCLA
that ten was going to be a great career. And
you know, and it was a situation where I'm not
sure you're familiar with John Embury, who's my tight end coach.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
At he was in camp with me my rookie year
in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
Okay, okay, so you know Mbo. You know his uh,
his energy and just the type of person the is
so obviously Mbo. You know, he coached toting his dollars
George Kettle for a little while, remember Daniel Graham. So
as far as like that, his resume is dipped in
blood when it comes to like tight ends and how
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he's able to get across to those guys and you know,
and I remember I would say he got to Ucla
my sophomore year, then fired the tight end coach we
had he got to Ucla. In the first conversation we had,
he was like, look and come to Ucla to coach
for Ucla? He said, I came to Ucla to coach.
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You gave me a whole rundown of like my family
knew where I was from. I'm from the East side
of Long Beach. My mom had me at fifteen years old.
I've been through just a whole bunch. So he had
already done his homework and that kind of, you know,
lit a fire under me. And so right after that
that formed a connection and just like that vibration that
we had, and literally he took me from He said, look,
(36:28):
this is where you are. Now you got the ability
to go through here. He was like, there's a lot
of people that can catch the ball, run and look pretty.
We know that you're an athlete.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
Cool, we get it.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
You want to play a long time in the league,
You're gonna have to learn how to get your nose dirty.
And it starts right here. And so he literally took
me from you know, just being able to catch a
pass and do nice things with it, to like really
being a dog and to being a dog. And so
I learned how to compete under him. And so by
the time I got to the league.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
This is my rookie.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
I get drafted in two thousand and six, Freddy t
Fred Taylor took me under his wing. Yeah, and Fred
Taylor he called me slim like at that time I
was I was six six, like two sixty, but I
didn't have the mass right, so he's just always just
caught me slim. So one the first day of pads,
we got the Oklahoma drill right, so this is like
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my first Oklahoma Drew on the NFL. We get three
d ns of Freddy T's running behind me twice and
then Maurice Drew is running behind me. I pancake the
first two guys moved a third guy out the way.
Freddy T jumped in my back kind of like wrestled
me almost to the grass and was like, yo, you
keep blocking like that. You going me in the league
for a long time. So fast forward to when I
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signed my contract. This morning, Freddy T text me and
was like, remember that conversation we had. I was like, Bro,
how could I ever forget that? That's something that I
always have with me and it's something that's inspired me
this whole entire time. So I'm just grateful to you know,
he didn't have to take me under his wing. He
played running back like it was. It's just been it's
been smooth, man. I just take it one day at
a time and you know, just get my personal best
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or whatever it is I'm doing in that day, and
I live with the results.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
You you you mentioned Mercedes, bro, that's still a long
time to get your body to go through the riggers. Look,
we know that you know, you know situational now, but
still you gotta come in there. And it ain't Jacksonville
where you got nice warm weather. You play you in Chicago,
broside you're.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Having to go and you were the Green Bay outside.
So so we get it.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
So what so once you got past year, once you
got past the year ten, as you mentioned that, I
get ten, then you get to fifteen. Because once you
get to ten, you take it one year at a time.
Once you got to fifteen, you had to be like
hold On Gonzales, played seventeen, went and played seventeen. The
way I feel right now, seventeen is in the bag.
(38:57):
What it ever a realistic chot? Once you got past fifteen,
that twenty would be into the point in nick Waye,
bro you you.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
Just hit it on the nose.
Speaker 10 (39:05):
And like, this conversation is something that I have pretty
often with people because they asked me like how did
you like, like what in your mind made you think
that you can just keep going and keep jumping up
to continue your career. Fifteen was literally that magic number
once I got Once I passed ten, I got to fifteen,
and I was like, Okay, I don't want to question
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it because I don't want to jinx myself.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
But I still feel really good.
Speaker 10 (39:29):
Right, And so I get to fifteen, I'm in Green
Bay and literally Green Bay is like, well, we want
to sign you to a two year deal because I
was only doing one year deals, trying to.
Speaker 7 (39:40):
Just play it by ear yep, and like at that
time in.
Speaker 10 (39:44):
Green Bay, obviously we had Jimmy Graham, he had signed
the contract. He was there for a couple of years,
then he ended up leaving, and then I ended up
being like the full time why. Like, so I was
the why, which means like to do it all tight
there for the listeners out there. And then we had
obviously the pass catching tight end at that time Robert Tallyan.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
So I was doing all the.
Speaker 10 (40:05):
Dirty work outside zon uh Power. I saw all that,
like edge man, I'm sitting I was doing all that,
and so they I didn't expect them to offer me
a two year deal. I thought it was going to
be one year, one year. But when they offered me
a two year deal, I felt like it was my
responsibility to go out there and continue to give them
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what they know that I that I'm about, and I
signed a deal, didn't look back, got through seventeen still
still felt really good. A Ryan ends up leaving, Davonte
ends up leaving, cop retires, Dave Batii le's I'm like, okay,
it's only me here. I know it's about to be
my time to go too. So they hit me up like, hey,
(40:47):
Sadi's like, you know, we're kind of changing the regime,
like you know, you know.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
The the.
Speaker 10 (40:53):
So I'm like all right, like no doubt whatever, like
you know, I'll figure it out. And then not too
long after that, I would say Dune Chicago hit me up.
And then we had had Luke Gessi, who was the
quarterback coach with Green Bay and was familiar with, you know,
how to use me as far as the play you know,
plays and what I'm good at, and brought me to
Chicago thinking that was gonna be a one year deal.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
Played that out, still played.
Speaker 10 (41:19):
About forty three percent of the plays at thirty nine
years old, so I'm still rolling. Then the next year
bring me back, So that's two years, and then here
we are now. It was just like a once I
got eighteen, I was like, I have to get twenty.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, I gotta get. I got it.
Speaker 10 (41:36):
I can't end, no, but I got to get you
can't Like this is I literally it was like the capstone,
Like twenty is like when I wake up on that gat.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
A whole lot of players that's ever played twenty seasons
you get. You get a Jackie Slater, and you get
a Tom Brady and you get a handful of guys.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
But maybe I don't think it's twenty guys.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Maybe maybe it's twenty guys, twenty five album people men
that ever played this game.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Darryl Green, Like, it ain't a whole lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
So let me ask you, this is this it you
travel twenty one or you've done it twenty you stopping
on a nice, a nice round even number.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
Okay, So.
Speaker 10 (42:20):
So this will be the first time I've ever said this,
because I haven't, But.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
This is it.
Speaker 7 (42:27):
Like if I said that last year, Like if I
said that after.
Speaker 10 (42:32):
Nineteen, I wouldn't have felt like I did in these
months that I was not playing right Like bro I
would wake up sometime like the season started. It was
a few teams hit my Asian up. But it was like,
just is he still working out? Does he still want
to play? Just a bunch of like fluff. It wasn't
nothing serious. So I told my agent, Buzz Cook. I
told him, I said, look, if it's not serious, like,
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don't hit me up, because it's messing with my head.
Like someday, some days I wake up sharp and be like, right,
I feel good. And in some days I wake up
and I feel like I'm in a nightmare because I'm
waking up, I'm watching ball there and I'm in my mind,
I'm like, there's not sixty four tight ends better than
me in this league.
Speaker 7 (43:11):
And I know I could be out there helping somebody
with body.
Speaker 10 (43:14):
Yeah, and like especially for what I do at this
point in my career, like I'm the best at this right,
like just point of contact setting, the edge, rock setting
and play pass like you know how it is, like
it's yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I take it.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Up and whatever you want, whatever you want to do. Hey,
if y'all want to put let me be killing it.
I get on that island.
Speaker 7 (43:38):
And so hey, hey, and that's kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 10 (43:42):
And you know, today Sean Payton pulled me aside and
was like, I've been watching you for the last eight years,
Like even when I was in Green Bay, the Saints
kept trying to get me. When he was with the Saints,
he was like, I just want you to know that
I've been watching this for the last eight years.
Speaker 7 (43:58):
I know what you're about. Everybody talks about how.
Speaker 10 (44:01):
You are as a person, like I get it, but
you're not staying in this league for as long as
you have just for being a great leader. You've been dominant.
We need somebody like you. And so they made me
feel valued. They made me feel welcome and to be
honest with you guys, like today was the first time
I felt like like nervous because it was like I'm
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forty one, I didn't do camp, no OTAs, what's my
reaction time, Like regardless if I'm working out right.
Speaker 7 (44:35):
Like you play football exactly excited.
Speaker 10 (44:40):
And I really questioned myself, like the night before going
toside my contract and then going to practice, like I'm
in there and I'm like, you know, he's they give it,
like you know, they give me the playbook, all of
that I'm looking through and I'm.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
Like, okay.
Speaker 10 (44:54):
Every hour that went by today I felt more and
more confident. Like I get in there and it's just
like all my teammates are like, you know, you know,
just loving me up, bro, and I'm just like, damn,
like this is where I'm supposed to be, you know it,
And it feels good and right. Once I got on
the field, Bro, it was just like riding the bike.
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So I'm I'm grateful for the moment. I've always been
in gratitude. I lead with just gratitude, man or not. Yeah,
it's special, bro.
Speaker 8 (45:25):
Joe, you had a question. Yeah, that's I wanted to say.
First of all, I'm gonna say these man, congratts on
twenty years. Bro, that's a long time, especially in the NFL.
What what's the biggest difference. What would you say the
biggest difference is from like year one to like year
twenty now, whether it be mindset training obviously, you know
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what would probably be the biggest difference.
Speaker 10 (45:50):
I think the biggest difference for me, Bro is, uh,
the time I had to form a routine is when
I first got into the league. Right like those first
three years, you're trying to figure out who you are, right, Like,
you know you're athletic, you know that like you can
do some things, but you don't know if you can
consistently get it done at that level, right you playing
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against guys that got families that are not having it.
And when I got to Jacksonville, Dogs in Jacksonville, like
I was raised with the Wolves in Jacksonville, you know
what I mean. So I feel like being in that
environment may molded me into who I am today. And
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I would say after year three, I started to form
this routine. How like my in season workout recovery does
not change for my out of season workout and recovery.
And mind you, I said out of season and not
off season. I don't take it off right Like it's
maybe two and a half weeks of just letting my
body heal and that means infrared and kotep. I'm still
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doing something to keep the blood flow.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Right.
Speaker 10 (47:00):
Yeah, once it gets close to February, like right after
Super Bowl. I've been training to mixed martial arts now
for fifteen years. So whether it's ju jitsu, muy Thai, wrestling, judo,
whatever it is, I would do that from February all
the way to May. I do not step on the
field until the end of May, going into July. Once
I hit the field in June, I get on the
grass straight ahead running and then we do like four
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hundred breakdowns on the track and then that's really about it.
I'll do like cone stuff, but not too many routes.
Even in my prime when I was catching a ball,
it wasn't a lot of routes and like putting that pressure.
Speaker 7 (47:32):
On my knees.
Speaker 10 (47:33):
And then when I would get to camp, I would
be peeking at the perfect time, and like, I really
just feel like that regiment has paid me back right
now because I still have my legs. I went to
Jacksonville where we would run first play action pass right like,
you know, Jimmy Smith was getting out of there, Keendo
McCardell had just got out of there. It was like
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Freddy T Maurice Drew. Obviously, we had a Kyle Brady
at tight end. I was backing him up as as
a rookie. Then I ended up starting as a secondary
guy exactly. And it was like we ran the ball
bro for at least four or five years straight and
I'm still getting my numbers.
Speaker 7 (48:12):
You know.
Speaker 10 (48:12):
I went all Pro my fifth year, Pro Bowl, all
of that, but not like I should have, right and
I would always be like, damn man, Like was I
supposed to get drafted here? Like I came out of
U s LA Mack your award winner, all the records,
doing my thing. Like I get to Jacksonville, I'm like, bro,
I'm blocking isol power.
Speaker 7 (48:30):
I'm doing you know what I mean?
Speaker 10 (48:31):
Like I'm not really being used, like and they drafted
me in the first round, so I didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
That's the best thing to happen for you didn't know
it because had you brought up those numbers early, and
now all of a sudden, you're in your ten year level,
year twelve, and they're not the same as they were
year three or four.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Now, all of a sudden, they gonna say you losing it.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
But because you didn't have eighty ninety catches in the beginning,
they were like same.
Speaker 7 (48:55):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
And what we're asking him to do hasn't changed for
what he he's been asked to do the previous team,
the previous twelve, the previous fifteen. We looked it up, Marcedes,
they've only been one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,
thirteen players to play at least twenty years or more.
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Most of them wow, as you could imagine, are kickers doubt.
George Blanda played twenty six seasons. He was a quarterback,
but his last couple of years he was MAINLA kicker
Morten Anderson twenty five kicker Adam Military twenty four, kicker
Tom Brady twenty three, quarterback John Carney twenty three kicker
Gary Anderson, kicker, Jeff Fiegels twenty one punter Earl Morrow
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played twenty one as a quarterback Jackets later offensive lineman
Darryl Green, quarnerback, Vinnit Testa, Verdi quarterback, Brett Farr quarterback,
Jason Hanson kicker, and now Marcedes Lewis is on this
list of guys that have played at least twenty seasons
of more. And you play the position now, Jackie, I'll
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say Jackie might have had because Jackie had to bang
every play for twenty no doubt, for twenty years. Sometimes
you got to run, you got to run, you got
to run the routes. It was twenty years. It's still crazy.
Let me ask you this, Are you bad? Mercedes?
Speaker 5 (50:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Because I was.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Gonna say, that's an awful long time to ask somebody like, Hey,
I need you to make these sacrifices for Twitty, I
need you to pick up the kids. I need you
to be the pta, I need you to be the
recitals in the football game and all this and all
that other stuff. So you understand the sacrifices that you make,
But when you have a partner, you're also asking them
to make set sacrifices.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
Yeah, hey, Mercedes, what combat sports you do again?
Speaker 3 (50:47):
More time?
Speaker 7 (50:48):
Just a little bit of judo, some wrestling. I don't
really I think.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
That's you, right, Oh Joe you oh you already you
know hold on, hold on, hold on, man.
Speaker 4 (50:59):
You know I got a belt and all that you.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Got around the hold you're paying up. Marseides, I think you. Hey,
that's what we want right here, Marceides. And oh Joe, hey,
were you not?
Speaker 3 (51:11):
I gotta I got I got a black belt. I
got a black belt in jiu JITs. Yeah, qui bro
what yeah? You're it?
Speaker 5 (51:21):
Hey, let me tell you something I say when I'm
when I'm done with James Harrison, I beat his ass.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
I mean you, I'm you you welcome. We I mean
whatever youone do?
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Oh Joe, somebody like a man say he's six six,
two sixty five to seventy.
Speaker 4 (51:35):
Hey, listen to me, Mercedes. I'm six four two thirty.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Man?
Speaker 5 (51:40):
What you what you he do that?
Speaker 7 (51:41):
Oh, Joe?
Speaker 1 (51:42):
He you not got a word about his conditioning. He fight,
he trains like that, so you know his condemned is
through the room.
Speaker 5 (51:49):
Hold on, time out, time out, man, Stop playing with
me on, sweet Jesus, Man, I trained.
Speaker 10 (51:54):
It's just it's just different. It's just different, though, Joe.
It's like if we was just straight boxing potentially, like
you may be at atlant a couple of shots, but
I'll still fight behind my jab.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
And listen, I have Lana.
Speaker 7 (52:11):
You see. You see how I am right now?
Speaker 3 (52:16):
How you gonna get Let me ask you a question, Ojo,
how you're gonna get up?
Speaker 7 (52:21):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
You never fought from your back. You don't know how
to get up?
Speaker 4 (52:25):
You talking about man, I can fight off my back, foot,
front floor.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
I fed your back, not your back, your back, your back.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Oh I'm what I was.
Speaker 7 (52:33):
I was.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
I was the state champion grappler.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
What you talk about your ground game like no game
like that? Running?
Speaker 7 (52:41):
Yeah, it would be. It wold be dope to uh
to roll with you if you ever want to roll.
Obviously yeah, let me know.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
Let me know what's wrong with my goddamn camera.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
I'm gonna start me lining. Is your camera?
Speaker 1 (52:54):
We got, we got say this stuff, but you don't
if you want, if you want to bang the hey
he ready he got.
Speaker 10 (53:01):
To get logging off now, huh heah.
Speaker 7 (53:10):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
I don't know no spa. Only thing only spa I
know about.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
It is a tie.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
And so let me ask you a question. So where's home?
Speaker 7 (53:17):
Mer Sadies, Sherman Oaks.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
Now oh okay, okay, okay, So you stayed you stayed in.
Speaker 10 (53:21):
Calling, Yeah, I mean I'm in LA. I bought my
mama house in Lakewood, which was about thirty minutes from
Long Beach, where I grew up at you spent some
time in like South Central, usual relationship all that, you know,
you know how it go. And for me, I bought
a house in the Sino and then obviously the fires
happened and got close to the crib.
Speaker 7 (53:40):
Thank you. I was able to sell sell my house.
Speaker 10 (53:44):
Last year and then now it's more so just renting
to be more cash free because I'm not sure what
I was gonna do. Was I gonna play a twentieth
year or potentially go to the front office or whatever.
I just didn't know, and so now I gotta hold
that off for another two months or three months and
figure that out.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
But that's what told you.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
You're looking at potentially thinking the valley is probably gonna
be where you.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
Set drop anchor at.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
I think so, but it's gonna be California, not necessarily
the valley, because we don't want to give out your information. Well,
you know, probably California. You a Cali kid at heart,
so that's probably where you're gonna set up shop.
Speaker 10 (54:18):
Yeah, like California is uh, you know. I feel like
like me and my mom are like best friends too.
I don't know if I could just you know, bounce
on it like that and then yeah, and so like,
I would probably rather stay there, but I'm I love
to travel too, So even if even if I like
got something again in California, it would probably be like
(54:40):
just a dope penthouse or something something.
Speaker 7 (54:42):
I don't have to worry about maintenance. I want the
panoramic and.
Speaker 10 (54:45):
I could just pull up, plug and play and then
I traveled because having the house and all that is
mortgage bro, I'm over it.
Speaker 7 (54:55):
I'm over paying mortgages. And interest rates and I'm just
over it, man.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (55:00):
So I just you know, the older you get, Like
for me, I've been more of a menialist or minimalist
the older I've gotten, And so I realized that I
don't need a whole bunch to find joy, Like I'm
I'm happy inside, you know, So all the other things.
Speaker 7 (55:16):
That like that minds you.
Speaker 10 (55:17):
Playing in Jacksonville is not It wasn't the real NFL experience, right, Like,
it's not. There's nothing in Jacksonville, right, No, come on,
I mean when I got to Jacksonville, they're robbing players.
It was barely the Yeah, dudes was getting stuck up
the gas station. Know, swear to god, dude's getting stuck
up at gas stations.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
It was just not. I was like, what am I?
Speaker 7 (55:39):
What am I doing out here?
Speaker 10 (55:40):
Like I was born in Long Beach, I saw all
that in Loan Beach, went to Ula, that changed, right,
I'm in Brentwood, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
And Westwood, you and you and you between Brentwood and Beverly.
Speaker 7 (55:51):
Get to Jacksonville.
Speaker 10 (55:52):
I'm like, okay, we're going backwards now as far as
like I'm living right and so yeah, man, at this point,
I'm just it's like the least that I have to
worry about, least overhead that I have to worry about.
Can I just pack it back and go travel and
go see the world because playing ball, I've been playing
pop Warners since I was seven, have not stopped on
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forty one. When I retire after this show, I just
want to see the world, man like in a real way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Yeah, yeah, Well you know, at your size, you know,
everybody gonna think you did something. So you go to
bar a country, They're gonna be poor. They like you
did something. You ain't just big for no reason walking around.
Speaker 10 (56:32):
Nah, And I mean I'm low key too, like I've
already checked into it, like certain places, especially in South America,
like I've been in Costa Rica for my birthday. But
like I'm getting NFL to give me some security or
something like y yea yea yea yeah yeah, I'm not
walking around you.
Speaker 7 (56:47):
Know, deally dallying and I expected nothing to.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Happen, so right, you definitely got to be on you
gotta a you gotta be on your best behavior watching
six at all times.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
And the best day to do is a NFL A
hook it up.
Speaker 7 (56:59):
For your boys set me up please.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
Right, hey, when you're at the Broncos, what what number
are you wearing?
Speaker 1 (57:05):
I'm wearing eighty nine. Okay, you got cars. I thought
you'd gonna get eighty four. I said, man, Baked, eighty four,
look good? What last time?
Speaker 7 (57:12):
Now?
Speaker 10 (57:12):
You uh best to ever do it? Bro And ain't
no way, ain't no way. And I wouldn't even, I
just wouldn't. Just I was just the respect. And and
it was crazy because you came up like I'm in
there and they're like, what number do you want? I'm
like eighty nine, and they're looking at the thing and
I was like, yeah, there's no eighty nine. And then
I looked at Champagne and Champagne and was like, yeah,
(57:33):
the best tight in there play here is eighty four.
I said, yeah, he's one of the best ever playing
in this league too, you know.
Speaker 7 (57:39):
What I mean?
Speaker 10 (57:40):
So like, and that's that's all positions, so that's not
even a question, like.
Speaker 1 (57:45):
I appreciate that. Hey, man, enjoy it, man. A. Broncos
look good. They got a nice defense. Defense in the
sensational boat Dises played really well. Courtland Suddon of Memes A.
They got guys that can go make play that can
run the football with Harvey and Dobbins. Hey, keep it going, man,
and who knows might see your saying friend, baby, Hey,
(58:07):
let's do it.
Speaker 5 (58:08):
Man.
Speaker 10 (58:08):
I appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me brother. It's
the first time you know, me and Sharp actually had
a conversation. So I was geekd for that. Oh show.
We always be seeing each other out and each other.
Joe was a pleasure. Man, Respect your brother.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
Say whatever, blue tie, jujitsu, whatever you want to do,
whatever you call it me say that, you call it okay,
and we'll get oh Jo there, we'll have pick him
up and bring you back.
Speaker 7 (58:36):
Sure, man, appreciate your love.
Speaker 3 (58:37):
Man than you bro.
Speaker 1 (58:39):
Man, Hey, that's unbelievable. Man, Ay twenty years play in
that position. I think, guys, I think I could. I
know I could have got fifteen, but ain't no way
in hell I could have got twenty.
Speaker 3 (58:55):
But why not while you're fish you know and top Joe.
We used to hit, we bang. We don't do that
bull shit that be doing now. Oh you better tell it.
Speaker 4 (59:04):
Hey, Hey, it was different. It was different back then.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
It was different. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
I came up in the nineties where we where shells
were shoulder pasts.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
It wasn't that something the shells that you have up
underneath your pasts, that's what they call shells.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
Now, we literally had on shoulder paths and shorts. That
was a shell day. But you thunded up, you thundy,
you had on full paths Wednesday and Thursday, you thunded
up nine on seven.
Speaker 3 (59:29):
Was real.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
Team was like, hey, hey they we were thumping training
camp were hell. It wasn't no walkthrough, it was hell.
Were putting people on the ground in training camp. And
you know, we we do what they do now these
joint practice O joe. But we was going overseas, so
we would go over seas. Let's just say we went
to Berlin and so we would get there on like
a Sunday. We scrimmaged, We scrimmaging the dolphins. You know,
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we go places, we scrimmaged. We scrimmaging the of the
forty nine ers. We scrimmaging the the seattle when we
go to Japan. But yeah, it was, man, that's.
Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
It's a lot. It's a lot of fluff going yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Look I'm not saying look, I'm not saying the guys
aren't talenty because they're super talenty because you know, look
this thing called evolution. Players get better, they're more equipped,
they know more, the training is better, they eat better.
They are the cold tubs and they got a red light,
sunny and all those things. Those things are better now.
But hey, we banged for real, for real. You heard
(01:00:34):
him say, Oklahoma. They ain't doing no Oklahoma no more, old.
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
Joe, absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Hey, hey.
Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
Man, I need to fix this camera. Man, hey, you
know I had to get in. I got an I
got a new camera because obviously the last two shows
they had to use the laptop camera because the USB
wasn't recognizing the camera for me to use the actual sony.
Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
So you know, I bought a new camera today.
Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
I bought a new laptop, Joe, and they gave me
and even with the new laptop of new camera, it
still wasn't recognizing the camera.
Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
So they gave me a cam link. Is that was, yeah,
a cam link.
Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
So I got the cam link, you know, plug into
the port and it was able to recognize on zoom.
Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
But now I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
It keep it keep going in and out, little thing.
Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Since you ain't paid me my fifty nine hundred. It's
gonna keep doing that and my hunted.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
But god damn, well throw it in now, Joe. I
owe you to Joe, Man, come on, we got to
get to this. Every time.
Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
I'm just saying, Joe, I don't I don't remember betting you, Joe,
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
I know, I know, I know, But I told you.
Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
You just said.
Speaker 8 (01:01:44):
You just said on a couple of shows ago that
you that you remember owing me one hundred dollars real yeah,
And I told you the season has started back and everything.
Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
But I told you I ain't gonna hold it against you. Well, hell,
hold on, Joe.
Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Let me let me check the books. Let me check
the books. Let me check the books, and I check
the book. I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna get back
to you as far as under concerned. Listen, Uncle man, listen.
Uncle had to get that back in blood.
Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
You have to get back of blood man.
Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Listen, listen.
Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
Let me stay with me real quick. Joe, Hey, Joe,
listen to me, Joe, Joe, I've been I've been begging
from my funk hole. I'm begging from from my high
school Jersey. I've been begging for the wards Joe.
Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
He ain't send me now, Joe, then you gotta hold
his funds. Hello.
Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
On.
Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Not only that, Joe, I had I had to go
break in his house and steal to of my trophies. Hey, Joe,
I had to go still leave Joe, you hear me.
I put on my sty I put.
Speaker 7 (01:02:42):
On my man.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
It looked you Johnson. I'm gonna stop playing. Come on, man,
sit that right over here.
Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
And you see, hey, Joe, see y'all playing.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
See how y'all playing with her white with Joe? What
I yeah, Hey, I would number too in Atlanta perfect.
Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
Hey, you know I tell you. Hey, there, y'all go there,
y'all go after you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Joe.
Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Hey, hey, listen, hey, listen, it's one thing. It's one
thing about on Mary had a little lamb. Don't don't
maybe put that shisty on give me?
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Yeah all right, hey, you know what, I have to
put this pool stick on this this man?
Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Hey, you were back of the day to cut your
Joe go across your head with a pool stick. Come
after Yeah, you ain't gonna do right, I forgot to
go on, put the pool stick upside and the head chat.
Speaker 8 (01:03:40):
I don't understand, Hey, that th ain't look brand new
over there, man, and you put some used to it?
Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Been you?
Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Yeah, hey Joe, he don't play no pool man, How
you gonna been over? How you gonna been over on
the table? He ain't got no hips?
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Oh man, you know, Joe?
Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
You see that?
Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Okay, I see how you're holding?
Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
Hey Joe, anybody anybody can hold a tennis racket?
Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Georgia slim? I beat fast?
Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Hey, hey Joe, anybody know how to hold a tennis racket?
Anybody know how to hold a golf cluyer, don't mean
nicka anybody.
Speaker 8 (01:04:21):
Hey, hey man, we got a stream. We got a
stream of pool game up with us. I don't know
about you, Joe, but I beat that.
Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
And time out. Hey, you got a pool stick that
hasn't been used.
Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
You don't know how to play? No, don't worry about
what's been used. I use it on you. You remember
my grandma had on switches in the coner. They been used.
Do you act up and all of a sudden she
used them on you?
Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
See, ay, Joe, that's that's that's gonna be our show. Joe.
Speaker 5 (01:04:50):
When when football season end? I got I got a
tv U backpack, right, I haven't been able to use it.
So you know how you got all the streamers casanad
and call them boys, so we don't have nothing for
the old folks are the older crowd.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
I see you, I see you know Yo, don't worry
about this. Joe the House of Hump of Day.
Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
Hey, Joe boll We listen, we're gonna we're gonna have
old folks time. We're gonna be We're gonna bowl, We're
gonna go fishing.
Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
We're gonna play the ball already know you don't we're
gonna call it anything. You don't know how to set
no hook. You don't not to set no line. You
don't know nothing about no fishing.
Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
You talking.
Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
Hey, wait a minute, that's how I know. Hey, that's
how I know. He don't know about me. I'm from Miami.
I used to catch a Gliad.
Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Grouping back in eighty three. That's what kind of grouper
thelion group balls.
Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
They put your answer in jail. You catch a glive grouper.
Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Hold on, hold on, I threw you back.
Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Yeah, I threw him back. You don't throw it back.
They're gonna throw your ants in jail. You can.
Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
Yeah, Hey, but listen, listen, staate statement, real quick, real quick.
Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
They used to take me.
Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
They used to take me to fisherman. They call h
Captain Jack. Captain Jack used to take me deep sea fishing.
We used to catch the live grouper. Matter of fact,
when he couldn't bring it in, I used.
Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
To you don't actually go fishing for the live grouper.
They actually like just bite. So what were you actually?
Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
We caught him by accident. We caught him by accident.
He was like six hundred and thirty pounds. So what
you what were you actually fishing for snapper? Were you
fishing for tuna? Brad Zeno, what were you actually fishing for.
Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Tun?
Speaker 7 (01:06:32):
On?
Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Lord boy, hey, we were fishing for tuna.
Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
All right, I'll obliged you. We'll go. We'll go deep
sea fishing, we go short fishing, we go whatever, we go.
Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
We go bass fishing, we can go, crappie fishing, we
can go sheeting, had fishing.
Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
Drum hey whatever, Wait a minute, let's do the hardest one.
Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Let's do the hardest one.
Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
Let's go spire fishing. Let's go spear fishing.
Speaker 10 (01:07:00):
Smith.
Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
Yeah, okay, okay, okay, yeah, I'm an I'm a no man,
I can hold my breath by six minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Oh Lord, have mercy Smith. Let's go spidfish. I tell
you what.
Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Yeah, hey, hey, hey, I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
A free go look were gonna catch? We can go
catch perch, we can catch blue gill, we can we
can go fish whatever. I'm not going hunting with you
the first one. I need you to get six months
at your gun trading before I go hunting with you,
because you're not Finnah shoot me in my eyes.
Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
Ain't no, No, I ain't gonna shoot you if I'll know,
But you.
Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
Know how to Hey, hey, stay with me now, I
know how to run a pistol.
Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
You hear me? First of all? Who going hunting with
a pistol?
Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
What the hell?
Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
You humber? What you hung?
Speaker 7 (01:07:44):
What? Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
We tell you were taking a high power rifle thirty
thirty thirty sixty three or eight something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
I got my switch.
Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I don't need. Ain't going no damn switching, No, damn
see what I'm trying to talk about. Check up?
Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Hey, Joe, Hey, Joe tripping.
Speaker 10 (01:08:09):
Joe.
Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Let me show you how my hunt. Joe'll be going
to the club. I'm going to the woods.
Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
I try to we're gonna get rat a white tail,
We're gonna get We're gonna kill hogs or something up
there talking about something huge and oh we go queens
and hunt. I don't care, but I need to need
some training because I'm not going nowhere with no gun
with Jo and he ain't never shot a gun to
day of the damn life.
Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
He shoot me in bass.
Speaker 8 (01:08:37):
Hey, listen, me and the homies. We used to go paintballing.
We used to go paintballing. We we divide up in teams,
be like five on the team. Then uh, we split
up out in the woods. And uh, they come back
and say, man, I can't be on this dude team.
This dude that shot me.
Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
In my tea.
Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
We team exactly about about he going hunting. He bad
talking about he going hunting with a pistol.
Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Who the hell?
Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Oh, they ain't go Joe.
Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
Hey, the animals ain't even gonna see me coming, Joe.
Oh man, Hey, hey, ain't see me coming, Joe.
Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Oh, Joe, do you know how to get in the
tree staying? Yeah? Do I know how to get in
the tree stand?
Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
But hey, I had a tree house, build a treehouse
back at Joe can you had a treehouse thirteen.
Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Man don't know how to this. Man don't know how
to stand in no tree stand. He don't know how
to see it still he first of all, you know
he ain't tree standing.
Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Hold on, wait a minute. I went with Carson Palmer.
I went with Carson and Jordan Palmer.
Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
They took me.
Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
They took me, dear honey, I was in the tree
stand for seven hours. I had to doubt myself with people.
Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Yeah, dope, pissed excuse me.
Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
But anyway, Oh Joe, Joe, he gonna go out there
with creed On and all they animal to go spell
his an from a mile away. Hell, no, I gonna
know what you he done got on? No, no, no,
you don't know how. You don't know how to stay that.
Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
He don't know how. I'm not No, I'm a chill hey, Joe.
Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
Everything everything he talked about, undid Joe, I undid I
just I just it's not something that I'm that I'm
that I'm excited about. But I've done everything want Joe,
I done everything wants all the hunt and all that
fish and all that deal.
Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
You stay down, you know how to stay down?
Speaker 7 (01:10:22):
Win.
Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
Yeah, you ain't got no choice but to stay down
win because if you don't stay down, whin they gonna
know you? There?
Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
They got the Hey, listen them an is that they
got the greatest is the smell of all.
Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Why I have got going with you because you go
out there with cologne on.
Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
I ain't gonna win no cologne. Oh guy ain't even showered.
Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
In three days. Hey, he don't out to win. No
cameouf flies. He out there with a red christianoddle jersey.
Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
And my dad, what the animal that? Cause they smell
and they see your an with that big on red
jersey on the You don't know to wear. No, you
don't know how to man. You ain't got no gear.
Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Listen, Hey, I got I got, I got some camouflage.
Speaker 8 (01:11:10):
Hey listen, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie.
That'll be a sight to see.
Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
Yeah, that's why we're gonna We're gonna stream.
Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
It stream at twenty four seven. I know how to hunt.
Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
If we go a squirrel hunt, we go a rabbit hunt.
Were going quail hunting? First of all, Oh, Joe, you
ain't never shot no gun. You never shot no animal
on the move.
Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
Hold on time, I don't hear squirrels back in the day,
I don't hear raccoons and a possum.
Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Die here, dude, shoot with that b B gun that
penally gun with me. Yeah, oh no, I had a
sixty four. Sixty four, but that is that. Yeah. Yeah,
see that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
That's how I know you ain't no shooting. We ain't
know what the sixty four is. Yeah. Further of all,
that's what we carried. Hey, that's what we carry down
here the crib.
Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
On all. You shoot a squirrel, you, first of all,
you was a rifle man because that is a small animal.
You don't want to mess up to meet you?
Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
No, no, no, no, let me tell you something, hey, Joe,
anytime you shoot a squirrel, you got to set an example.
Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
You want to eat the squirrel for the rest of
the squirrels.
Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
And I'm not the one to play.
Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
Don't come right here with that.
Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Don't come right hey.
Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
You killing Yes, you ain't got to worry.
Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
About, Ojoe. But what you try to do, because you're
gonna eat the squirrel, O Joe, if you shoot him
with a shotgun, you're gonna mess the You're gonna mess up. Well,
ain't gonna be nothing down.
Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Oh you want to eat.
Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
I'm shooting the squirrel to set an example for the
rest of the squirrels not to call over here messing
with the mangos in the tree.
Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
I don't care the squirrels come out. First of all,
Oh yo, were going out. We ain't shooting no city squirrels.
I don't care nobody that.
Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
First of all, you.
Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
The city, We're not eating the squirrels. You're not eating
the squirrels in the city. You eat the squirrels and the.
Speaker 5 (01:12:55):
What I'm saying, that's what you can't hunt in the city. No,
but I'm saying, I mean I can adapt. That's what
That's what life is about. It's about adapting, so I
can adapt to what you like to do. If I
got to be in the woods, I know how to ask.
Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
You've ever shot a shotgun before? A twelve gauge, fourteen
twenty gauge? Have you ever shot a high power ride
for thirty out six thirty three eight?
Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
Let me tell you before football unk, I was in
the field.
Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
You hear me.
Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
A Joe unk don't know? I would many Joe, I
would like that Joe on Sweet Jesus.
Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
I was like that.
Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
I'm telling you you.
Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Were like, I ain't playing you like the Waiians out here.
Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Man, listen, Joe, I'm not proud of that lifestyle I
used to live back in eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
But see, first of all, Dwaiian, that's I mean shooting
somebody at point. It's not like they shooting somebody from
a distance. You not finna walk. You're not gonna shoot
an anima is close to somebody shooting a human being.
Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
You do realize it?
Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Like three y'all like ten feet less than twenty five
yards from each other. You shooting an animal from distance?
Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Oh, Joe, you do know?
Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
You do know I was E was in the Marines?
Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Right?
Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
You do know in the Marines?
Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Right?
Speaker 7 (01:14:05):
Do you do? You do know?
Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
It was a sniper? You a sniper?
Speaker 10 (01:14:08):
Huh yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
Oh lord a mercy, Hey, I hit it talking from
four hundred twenty feet, Joe, twenty feet at the bottle top,
the bottletop off a coke bottle.
Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
You know that man ain't shooting hitting nothing over hundred yards.
Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
That's hey, Joe, that.
Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
He might not hear her.
Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
He might not hit a person from one hundred yards away.
Let him all the damn bottle top.
Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Yo, How I lie for you? Before I lie to you?
Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
Joe, I knocked a bottle top off, a coke bottle
from four hundred and I only got.
Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Knowing how hard it is to hit an object from
that far away, that small Take your glasses off, Take
your glasses. Let me see how you shoot. Take your
glasses off. He put the gun up, putting together. Okay,
you got the god how you shooting?
Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:15:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Oh hey, man got a sleep shot. This man got
a sling shot, Joe, Joe, this bad got a slave shot.
Second of all, you shooting him with that distance? You
got both eyes open? Oh Joe, you're not shoot from
no one. I thought this man got a sling shot, Joe.
(01:15:25):
This man be thinking, Hey, shooting the liar, he David, Joe.
Speaker 8 (01:15:30):
He ain't going I ain't gonna lie, Okay, oh Jo,
what that'll be some musty TV boy. I'm telling I'm
telling you, Hey, hey, I'm not gonna like, Oh Joe,
I don't think you can hit name thing.
Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
Hey, Hey, hey, listen, that's that's what I like people.
Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
That's what I like people to think I can't hit that,
I can't hit this, But then they get hit it's like,
oh he really liked it.
Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Oh Joe, you if you were to try to shoot somebody,
because you gotta understand the distance in what you are.
But I'm talking about an animal out a deer, I'm
talking about a hog. I'm talking about it. I can't
held up in the tree. I'm talking about a quail.
Because here's the thing. Let's just say we take dogs out.
So the dogs gonna start treaping, gonna start creeping up.
Now they're gonna put they're gonna freeze.
Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
And now yeah, yeah, hey, I used to have I
used to have pointers.
Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
I used to have pointers. I live in the city, Chad,
y'all believe shooting. I mean looking at looking at Joe
the way he aiming and shooting that slave shot.
Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
He's not about to hit nothing, all right, tell you
I'm I'm uncle. I'm gonna surprise you right there.
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New Broncos tight end Marcedes Love joins us a bit later.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Oh Joe, this will be his twentieth season season.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
A Hey, that's a that's a blessing.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah, yeah, you know how long hold on, long on?
I don't think people understand it. Hey, Joe.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
You know how long twenty is is for a tight end's.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Never been done.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Whitney Gonzo has the record at seventeen, so well, he
has the record, but the previous record. I mean, those
two guys played seventeen and we understand how long Tony
Gonzales played and Jason Witton he surpassed that. So he's
been at it for a minute. Congratulations to him, but
we'll talk to him in a minute. Lamar Jackson confirmed
(03:45):
he was the reason behind the Ravens removing the ping
pong tables games from the team locker room. Let's take
a listen to what Lamar had to say about this.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
I told Ko our head equipment God told him to
take the games and ping pong turning TVs off. If
we could have took the TV's out, it would have
been out too. But I appreciate missus Steven putting that
enough for us, you know. But yeah, we had to focus.
I wouldn't say people don't take the job series, don't
get me wrong, but like I didn't feel like it
(04:16):
was the time for that.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
You know, we got a lot of we got a
lot of work to do take back. I don't know
if you guys, we got a graphic.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
This is what.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Room probably happened to make sure the summertime OT is
or something, But right now that's not the focus.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
My bad.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, Lamar had a little bit more to say, but
here's the graphic of what the Ravens locker room looked
like without any gaming tables or any other It looks naked.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It looks naked.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Oh Joe, Look, I think I think Marlon Humphrey kind
of dined him out at the beginning, because I think
Marlon was on a pot podcast and he said, the
two the two most important players, the two most popular
players on the team, best two best players on the team.
Where you kind of narrowed it down, you know one
of them is Lamar and then if you gonna say
Derrick Henry or Ray Rocann Smith, but we knew mar
(05:16):
L Jack was one of them. I said, you know what,
I'm gonna take the guest work out of it. I'm
gonna take the suspicion out of it. I did it.
I went to the training and say look, blah blah blah,
so for the song, and they got it done. Oh Joe,
you got a problem.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
With this, But honestly, I don't have a problem with
they were one and five, now they're two and five.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Listen, having games, video games and all the extra stuff.
The TV's inside of the locker room. That's a privilege, junk,
that's a privilege.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
And when you're losing the way they're losing right now,
especially defensive, they play horrible, all the extra stuff it
needs to be gone, all the distractions having fun.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
What you on the video game for?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And you won?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
And five?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
What you're on the video what's you on the video
game for? And they throw three hundred plus y'alls on
your defense? You can't tackle. You don't deserve to have
the extra privileges that you get in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
You all about business. You want to play the video game.
Wait you get home. We want to watch TV. Wait
till you get home. So I understand. And it had
to take.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Somebody like Lamar to do it, because anybody else tried
to pull that, oh man, they would have been talking
trad would.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You ass down? Exactly?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
But listen, Lamar, Lamar is the only one that can
pull that trigger. And ain't nobody gonna pep a goddamn sound.
But it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
The right thing to do, honestly, Joe, Hey, I agree,
I agree, man. You know when you lose and that
it magnifies everything everything.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Hey, hey, you're looking for.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Any little thing and there like okay, get the damn
ping ponte byt there to pool?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You want you want it all gone, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 8 (06:45):
Because you know those little distractions, you know it could
it could, It could add up in a big game
or in practice. It could take your focus away because look,
you go to competing too hard on that. You can't
wait for practice to be over and you right back
on it, you know what I mean? Hey, I agree
with Lamar. Man, Hey, get all that up out of here.
We'll have fun at OTA's or something in the summertime
or summer. Right now, we got to lock in, man,
(07:06):
the rest of the season is very value and important
for well.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Listen, hey, Joe, I like we just say, hey, let
me tell you something. Taking them video games out, taking
out the ping pong tables and the pool table, maybe
not even having no music. You want to listen to music,
put you goddamn earphones on. But I can tell you
one thing. Tomorrow night when they come down there to
the hard rock give me they finish, go home with
another l So, moving all that furniture, rearranging all that
(07:32):
furniture out there in the locker room ain't gonna mean
nothing with them. Dophin put put built the ass tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Man, Joe, Joe, just for a second, Joe, I agree
with everything you said. But oh, Joe, I remember we
had a conversation and you told me that ain't got nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
To do with winning.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
What we talked about it about stuff that we do
when you loose.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Let me ask you a question. When they were winning,
what were they doing? Were they playing ping pong? Were
they playing PlayStation ping pong?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Let me ask you a question. Did that go to
them winning ball games?
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh, but it ain't going to Joe. You heard what
he said that, Joe, He said it didn't have them win.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, listen, stay with me
real quick, stay with me, real quick.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
When it comes when it comes to teams, they seem
they think, if they seem to think, this is what's
best for us to win games, So be it.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Honestly, honestly, it had nothing to do with wins and losses.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
What you do when you're not there on on out
there on the field, had nothing to do with wins
and losses.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
That's mine games, that's my game.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Maybe if we remove this stuff from in the locker room,
maybe the outcome of a game is gonna be difference.
It ain't gonna be no goddamn difference. The games are
one on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
And Saturday to walk through. That's it. What you're doing
in that locker room, ain't got nothing to do it.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I'll just be in. But I agree with you guys.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Listen, I hear this out.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Hey, you know how I am Joe.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, way to the book come out when I when
they find out what all I did that they didn't
know about.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That was that's what you need to worry about.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But I agree with it because the thing is is
that what like what you guys said, is that I
need to be I need to be the focus because
now you ain't. Hey man, let let's let's let's play
a game right here, Let's shoot pool, let's play let's plays.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Five blah blah blah nah.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Get your ass in your playbook, right, That's what you
need to do because all I know is that team
doesn't matter who we play who the quarterback? Is he
looking like Patrick Mahomes when he play us? That's all
I know. I don't know anything else. But the guy
looks like Patrick Mahomes when he plays us. So something
is not It's not computing all that stuff you want.
(09:43):
You like shooting pool, either go to the bill your
hall or put a pool table in your damn house.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
You like players five? Wait, team, that's the problem. You're
paying too much.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You're playing your homeboys, your friez, or you're former college
when you take your ass home, or you're not putting
enough time on the iPad. I don't have any problem
with this because Lamar as the leader. This is what
this is leadership. This is what you're supposed to do.
Sometimes it's just all about how well you play. Sometimes
you have to take measures that's unpopular.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Now. I'm sure some guys don't like the a man.
They ain't got nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
But what they gonna say?
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Who want? People?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Who want?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
People?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Sound in that locker room Joe When Joe say, you
know what, man, we don't need this, We don't need this.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
No mo I men ate, I men ate.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
That's what I'm trying to say, who gonna say something? Man, man, please,
But that's the thing. Look at you're right, you're right.
Like I said, Look, I remember we're losing the game. Hey,
we didn't we didn't have lunch. Dan told her, I
ain't feel you. Sorry, you know what, go get your
own lunch.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Okay, you can get it. I'm just not paying for
we just not paying for it. I say, you couldn't eat,
so you got an hour to get your ass to
wherever you wanted, whatever you wanted me obviously, you know
we get back. Obviously you're not going anywhere to sit,
you know, sit down and eat, and you're not gonna
get anything heavy. But but that's that's the way it
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that's the way it goes. I mean, when you losing, Hey,
sitting on your hel me. They don't know I'm sitting
on my helmet. What that gotta do with why we losing.
I've been I was sitting on my helm when we
was winning. The locker room was nasty.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
When we was winning.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
We gotta clean up all whatever you're like, Oh Joe,
you said it very clearly. It's mentally. Maybe that's the read.
Maybe all you want somebody like, damn man, they took
them games up out of there.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Man, we're playing. Okay, what else can we remove? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I got a question. Hey, I got a question, Joe,
A chap for you for those of you that are listening.
What happened when you remove all that stuff and you
still get wooded?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And we can live with we can live with the results.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
Oh yeah, but we we ain't had no distractions coming
into practice. We ain't got coming in that time. Oh yeah,
I'm gonna get it. Yeah yeah, we ain't got to.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Have your money talking the money rail like like you're
the joke, Joorde, because you know where you gambled.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, you put the money up under the rail.
Speaker 8 (12:03):
Oh yeah, right right, Hey look then you know it
against so serious. I came in there with my own
pool sticky. I can't wait today, you know what I'm saying.
Real now, we're all out of whack. We we got
a whole game plan we gotta think of.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
But you know what, I can honestly say, I can
only remember a handful of times with me. Actually, the
only time I can only remember that I actually watched television.
Y'all know what it was? The OJ trial. Oh that
was the only that was the only time that I
can remember actually watching, you know, and I wasn't like
sitting down the whole hour watching it, get my work
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out in, see what was going you know, see what
was going on, like let me go get take get
my ass, get my ass on this field.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So that was really the only time.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And then one of but that was that was like
on a Tuesday that was our off day the World
Trade Center. I remember walking in and I saw Bill
to fall.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
With damn is that real? You know, like, God, that
is't that ain't even that ain't even real. It didn't
even seem real.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So I remember walking and talking to Bill Testendorf, who
was out head training at the time. I say, task,
I just saw like like the World Trade Centers, like,
go there is that like a movie. He's like, Nah, Sharpie,
that's that's real. I said, really, I said, what happened?
It's like, I don't know, look like somebody you know,
crashed into it. So same day, I remember taking my dog.
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I took my dog over there, had a my key
at the time, and I let him run around while
I went and worked out. He done slipped the front
of the damn fence and gone somewhere now, I said,
cause I know the phone was trying to call my sister.
Always called my sister on my way over there. The
phone was just busy. I was like, women, women's a
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cell phone busy. I tried to call my homework bucket.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
It's busy. I try to call Burns. It's busy. I'm like,
what damn?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So it didn't dawn on me. And then when I
saw that, it didn't look real. And the next thing
I know, I say, now I understand why what's going on?
But who watches?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Who goes? I don't know. I shouldn't say that. Who
watches TV when they go to work? I don't. I
don't watch TV or not. This was but I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I don't watch team. But I don't have a problem.
That's what leadership should be. That's what Lamar should have done,
and he shouldn't have he shouldn't. Look y'all know who
did it. I mean, I'm surprised John Harvard didn't do it,
But he didn't want to come off of like, oh,
coach doing that because but when we were winning, he
didn't take up. He didn't blah blah blah, X Y
and Z. You know, how it goes. I'm glad Lamar
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did that. I'm glad Lamar stepped up, showed the leadership
that has been bestowed upon him that he earned. He
didn't deserve it, he earned that with his play. He's
one of the ten your senior tenure players.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
That are there. If he can't say taking our X,
Y and Z, well, who can.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Listen?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
And one more thing before we go into the next subject.
I just want I just want to add for the chat, Joe.
I want to let you know, I know they took
no well, Lamar took the right measures, you know, to
make sure.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
The team focuses and do what they need to do. Offensive.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Lamar gonna take care of his business. But the defense
ain't nothing happen. Ain't nothing happened. Listen tomorrow. I'm going
to the game tomorrow. Yemmi, hey, two off throw for
three hundred yem me.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Hey, hey, hey, hello three? What behind my ass? What
is Lamar Jackson going to do?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I mean, knowing Lamar first game back, he might be
he might be a little rusty. He might be a
rusty he had thought about maybe about about.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
Two ten man obaroa win Player of the Week. Hey,
it's mighty funny. Oh Joe, you got all this confidence
into it now. But just a couple of weeks ago
when we was on here, yeah, you talking about him
throwing picks.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
He was like, I was like, man, maybe he gonna
turn around. I said it was early. He was like
a man right right.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
He went out there and had a hell of a
game against the fire Because and now you you back
on the band, Well.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I never jumped off the band back and Joe, when
when when Toy played bad? It's something that I had
the problem with critiquing players and not not really saying
when they're playing bad.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I made excuses for him, Joe, I ain't making no
excuse me for when you play bad. I'm gonna let
you know, and I'm gonna say it loud. I'm gonna
say it proud. I'ma screaming I'm screaming from the hill
like Jack and Jail.
Speaker 10 (16:20):
You hear me.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
So you got them beating you got them beating the Ravens.
Oh yeah, absolutely, Joe.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I'm going to the game. It's at the hard Rock, Joe.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
The hard Team bet the Ravens. That man ain't been
to a game this year and the team that he
went their support and.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Won the game.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Hold on, no, no, no, no, excuse me coming when
you went to the when you went to the Bengals game,
tell the people at home what happened.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
We won, We won the last game I went to.
What was the last game you went to when they
played the steel erp No, you didn't go to that game.
I did go to that game.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I was there. I don't know that sounds suspecting me.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Remember I was in the Remember I was in the hotel.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I had to lead the.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Game in the fourth quarter of the Come yeah, I
remember you left the game in the fourth quarter another
game and came home too.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Legs on that game.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Absolutely not absolutely, but listen, listen, let's let's listen.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I don't mean to jump off topic. If Joe Burrow
wasn't hurt, you know, the Bankers be six and we'll
be sixty two.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You know the season. How many seasons have you said
that since he's been in the league. You used that
if Joe Burrow wasn't hurt, you used that more than man.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Wait, wait a minute, what you want me to do
about that? I can't, I can't.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I'm not in control of him, you know, getting injured
to being healthy. I'm just saying that he was healthy
full time. I'm telling you where we would be at.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
But it's more, it's more probable than not. There's a
greater probability that he gets hurt based on his tenure
in the NFL than him not.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Am I correct? Yes or no? Think about it.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
He is basically his whole of this season torn a knee.
He missed what last year, a year before last with
the rest. Now he's gonna miss the better part of
this season with a foot, with a toe. So that's
this has kind of been his mo since he's been
in the league.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I got you, I got you. But listen, get the
injuries out the way early in your career.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Get the injuries out the way early in the career,
and you know we probably we'll probably win the Super
Bowl next year.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Oh Joe, how you gonna get the injuries out when
it's that offensive line? What got him hurt? What what
got him hurt? His rookie year? Offensive line was terrible.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
What happened in the game tweaked the offensive line, His
toe got tackled from flushed out of the pocket.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Offensive line. So I mean, y'all got a new one
coming in. I don't know about No, we don't.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
But everybody can't have the matter of fact, everybody can't
have the Philadelpha Eagles offensive line.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Everybody can't have the goddamn and y'all just don't need
to have the bad news. Okay, you gonna have the
bad news bearers or the replacement offensive line. If you
don't have that, you be fad. But but but but
also let me say this, hey, Joe, let me say
this too.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Also with with on Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
But you got to get the ball that you.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Han, baby, You have to get the ball out your hands,
you know, waiting to scramble, because you're very good at
extending plays.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
We know, we know you.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
You know, got a little Michael VICKI And you're not
as fast. You can maneuver the pocket.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I say you're not.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
You got a little you when it comes.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Let me let me finish.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
I just said not as fast. But his ability to
maneuver in the pocket and manipulate it and extend plays
a second to none. But he don't got no speed.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
That's all you talking about, Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Oh yeah, hey, hey, Joe, he could extend to play
like a mother. You hold on to the ball just
a tab it based on his offensive line. Of course
he holds on to the ball too long. But you
got to let the players develop. And a lot of
times he's thinking like, oh, yeah, we protected here, or
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you have a break down there. Somebody didn't slide the
right way, somebody didn't get over far enough, the back
didn't do didn't do a good enough job of chipping
on his way out.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
There's a lot of things that play into a sack.
It's not always on the offensive line, it's not always
on the quarterback. Sometimes it's a combination. And a lot
of times it seemed like they're taking turns. Line doesn't
do what it's supposed to, Joe doesn't get the ball
out of his hand fast enough.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Running back donet chip or do his job good enough.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And so it's just one after another, and it just
it's a snowball effect that gets larger and larger.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Just just a small example before we're going to the
next top of the game. I want to look I
want you to look at Joe Flacco. When Joe quacko
has played, he's plays he started three weeks. Look at
him when he played against the Steelers, got the ball
out of his hands, yes the way right away.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Joe got sacked one time.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Joe ain't get sacked to the fourth quarter, waiting on
a longer play to develop, which was going downfield, and
that was the only way.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
That was the only reason tj W was able to
get back there.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
But outside of that, every time Joe getting that ball one, two, three, boom,
it's out of there quick. So even if the line
and it is playing bad, it's somewhat looks a little
different with Joe Flacco back there because you're getting rid
of the goddamn ball fast as hell with his decision making. Now,
I'm not saying Joe Borrow can't do that. I'm just
saying at times he needs to get rid of it
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very fast and get it out of.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Oh joey Joe.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
The Bears trolled the Ravens posted this video on social
media of Bears players competing in games in the locker
room and the facility.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
They playing shot. Oh we had what you had in
the locker room. Now they're playing pe they playing peek,
they're playing darts on the game Paddy. Yeah, we had
a pop, Oh Joe, that was money. That was money.
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Oh y'all gambling, y'all a gamp shot, yes.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
He we had pe We had ping pong tournaments. Ye
oh yeah, we had back.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
I'm talking about like a couple of people play before practice,
a couple of people playing after pray.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Look here, I know how we come. Hey, you come
and put your per dimn money down? Oh we bet money,
So like we get that money per dimn. Oh, Joe,
you put that thing down. Hey, if we shoot something,
people two people make it, it go back. You can
have ten people up there. If only one make it,
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you get all them per diems.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Oh okay, like that.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So we get like we get like workout checks. So
you know ota, Oh Joe, you get a workout check.
It's probably like two fifty three hundred dollars. So I
go upstairs, I get my check. I bet, hey, bet
the check, because that's what everybody would do.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Bet the check. Don't even look at it, Joe, just
bet the check. All right.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
You know we're shooting, okay, like may we're gonna go. Hey,
we'll finish this up. Lead the checks right there in
the knocker. So we come back. I make mine. Two
dudes missed there. It was me and Burns. I think
it was me and Burns and a house. I think
of me Burns a house. But anyway, we were shooting.
I opened their check int like three fifty. My check
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was seventy thousand dollars. They had old they had Oh,
they had owed me from last.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Year some money.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Okay, okay, okay, so you got I got you lucky.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You didn't know because I didn't open the check. See
the thing, you're Joe, you can't open it. You gotta
shoot that blind.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I don't know about that. Oh that's how we got
to do it.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Joe. You got to shoot that thing's blind because I
see if you know what's in there, you ain't gonna
do it. I want you at a. Just put it
on the just put a just put it po dim
right there, put it right. Y'all Play card, Joe, y'all
play cards. Yeah, y'all play in between bou ray tuk.
We played bow ray in between guts.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah. Uh, ain't ain't nothing nice playing them games.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Joe, noa, no spade.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well it's hard, it's hard to play. They don't really
play spade for money. We placed a spade for pride.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Hey, oh Joe. Yeah, it may be a sensitive subject
right now, but the boy love the gamble man, Oh
for sure. He Listen, Joe, that's everywhere. Yeah, that's everywhere.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I mean obviously they're I mean, they made it legal,
which is which is kind of weird. How do you
make it legal?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
And then all of a sudden you surprise that people
are actually gambling now, like you do know, right, I'm wrong,
So I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
But you know what they're getting them on. They're gonna
put they're gonna fix it. So if you're player, you
can't bet on the props. It's the prop best that's
getting them. It's not the winner lose. The game is
over under the minutes, it's over under the shot attempts.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
It's all that.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
It's the it's that's those kind of stuff. It's the
injury report. Joe Man, you know a man, you know Joe, Uh,
how is Joe Man?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Joe wasn't even mad? Shoot around. Joe ain't playing today.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Now that information is gonna come public at about three hours,
but it's not public now, so they're getting a head
start on the info.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
So that's this way. Listen, that's what the NBA is
trying to me up in the bud.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
They're trying to get like, oh, we we've got to
do a better job of curtailing this the injury report.
That's why they make the injury reports public, o Cho,
because just the magic if they weren't public and only
a hand but.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Only a handful of people know anyway, man, listen, Ocho.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
In twenty twenty, I played in the TBT that's the
UH that's the the basketball league for like ten million
dollars meeting and I played on the team and it
was doing COVID. So they had us locked in this
UH hotel in Ohio. So the night before the game,
my homeboy who was here in Atlanta, he called me
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the night before the game.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
He said, hey, man, they they got you, they got you.
You should think over under eighteen points for you tomorrow.
I hung up. I'm like, listen, listen, listen, don't call me.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
I don't know who.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah right, And I don't want.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
I don't want to go into the game with no
preconceived notion that I gotta get twenty five points. Just
let me right, you know, so I can I can
see where some of these dudes homeboys hitting them and
telling them, Hey, man, ye'll be thinking about it.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
Man.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I ain't.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Man, I ain't practiced all week. Man, I ain't playing.
They got that thing if questionable or bro I ain't playing.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
He's right, right, But.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That gambling, that gambling, if you got to gamble with
people that you know, because gambling, I don't see a
lot of fights break out about that money.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Hey, hold on, wait a minute, Wait a minute. You
heard the first thing you said, which is obviously a lie.
You got the gambled with people you know? Because I
done seen some of the best of friends fall out
when it comes to money.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Hell, I don't seen family fall out money.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
How about people that that's gonna pay.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Because hey, you start playing me and you vote no
one in them that part to get that party in between,
to get up twenty five fifty one hundred thousand like that.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I've been I've been in a pot that got to
be thirty five thousand. We had a pot so high,
were like, hey, man, just forget it. Hey, everybody good, Hey,
because hey, nobody want that because I already know. Boy,
you lose one hundred thousand, how you gonna focus on
the gable? Hold on listen. Listen, cause the way you play,
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oh yo, let's just say we're playing cards. Okay, a
ace come, you gotta call it high low, and then
the next car. So if I get an ace, I'm
gonna say hi, the next car come. Let's just say
it's a five, I say plotted. As long as the
car comes in between that, long as it comes six king,
I'm good. If it comes on the edges, which is
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another ace or another five, you gotta double what's in
the pot. So if the pot is ten thousand, you
gotta double it to twenty five, not a parts thirty thousand.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
You seen your hand between going to the super. Between
me and we all played, we have some good old time.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
The party got to like probably got to like eight thousand,
then they got to like ten burns. The hell I
was selling my cars, I said, hey, so he said, man,
he said, homeboy, he said.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
He said, but I can't go home and tell Michelle
I lost this. It was it was a king, it
was a five king five.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I was like, damn.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I said, what you want to do, homeboy? He said, Man,
I'm selling these cars. I said, don't worry about it.
I got you covered I said, I got to cover.
I said, what we're gonna do?
Speaker 7 (28:40):
We go.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I said if I if we lose, if I lose,
if we lose, I put the money. If we win,
I'll split it with you. I wouldn't do that with
anybody else. Now it is all my boo. You what
about me? You wouldn't do that?
Speaker 7 (28:56):
You?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
First of all, your wasn't even in the league. You
was in college in ninety eight. Where were you at
in ninety eight?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Ninety eight? Boy, I was a junior in high schoo No,
I was a sophomore in a college.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
So it was a king and it was a five.
I was like, I said, let's hey, homeboy, let's just
pot it.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
The pot is like ten.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
If we get hit on the edge, if a king
or five, come on, Joe, we gotta double the pot.
Now if it comes a four or eight, we just
have to match the pot. Right.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
That thing came six.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Guy didn't have enough money to put it up. So
we had to put Super Bowl tickets up because we
going to the Super Bowl. Because you know how long
it takes you to get from Denver to Miami. So
a lot of money changed hands.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Go Yeah, I hey, Joe, I know, I know you
got some good gaming stories. You ain't gotta put no
name on the door and listen.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
When when I was playing here in Atlanta, me, Josh Smith,
Mike Bibbie, Big, Jason Collins, like we used to we
used to gamble, ohchother and like when you get off
the plane, if you if you won seven or eight
thousand dollars, that was a pretty good day, right, I mean, boy,
when I got to Houston playing with James Harden and
see people and PJ. Tucker and they getting off the plane,
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oh in each other one hundred and forty thousand, said,
I ain't playing with y'all.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Whoa whoa tip.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Just used to watch I used to watch. I ain't
never used to play with them.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Hold on, Joe, you're not finna say that like that,
like it's normal.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
On how much?
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Yeah, one hundred and forty thousand, hundred and seventy thousand,
eighty thousands by in bitcoin.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Or American dollars with no bitcoin back then money on
that money.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Hey hey, I heard stories like guy, you had to
come to the you had to come to the table
with one hundred, one hundred and fifty two eighty thousand
in cash just to sit at the what and if
you're like gambling, you couldn't sit in You're like, nah, bro,
you got to go.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Nah, I'm just here with such and such that ain't
got nothing to do with me. Yeah, oh jo could look,
you gonna come to the table with that little to
five hundred trying Yeah, yeah, yeah you try, Yeah, bang,
gonna let you do it. That's gonna last you two rounds,
home boy, you're gonna be out of that. That's how
most that's how most people get.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
That's how most big heavyweights gamble is that you gotta
come with X amount of dollars. You gotta come with
fifty one hundred, two hundred quarters of a million dollars
in cash just to just to just to get in
and sit in the room. Because you're not fitna be
no bystander. They don't need no cheerleader there, don't need
none of that.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
But but but this ath though, it ain't like no boys,
none of that. This is all athletes. Man Oak Oak
love to gamble like that, big yeah oak Tree.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
But I know another guy that liked to gamble like
that and talking about yeah you know, uh you know,
are we staying at such and such. I think ain't
got nothing do with me. That man, that dude right
here here. I said, Bro, I said, you're not finna
get my house. I'm sorry, Bro, I'm good. I'm good.
I don't want to I don't want to say I
guess what I took fifty K. I took up no, no,
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because he got that kind of money that every time
you play you nervous because you know you can't put
him under the gud.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
You can't put him at risk.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
See, the whole thing is to put some when you
play it with cash money and it's right down the table.
The whole thing is to put the guy at risk.
You can't put him if you can't put it. If
you can't, yeah, if you can't put him at risk,
because he will cover it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
We got our special guests joining us. He just signed
with the Broncos, playing in his twentieth season. Played a
grand total of two hundred and eighty five career games
from playing University of California at Los Angeles aka u
c l A. Harriets, Ladies and Gentlemen, mar Sades Lewis,
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what's up, brother, I'm good man.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
How you doing bro, I'm doing well.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Man.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
Just everything happened so fast.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
It was.
Speaker 10 (32:54):
Like, obviously I played nineteen last year, I didn't get
picked up for camp, didn't do ot. This was the
first time I hadn't been in camp, So it was
a mental It was messing with me mentally for a
second because it's something that I've been used to and
I'm one of those that I love camp. I love
building that gristle and getting ready for the season. So
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when I didn't get picked up, it was like, Okay,
you know, how do I want to go about this?
And so I just was kind of more introspective about
it and just kind of was in a state of allowing,
meaning like not resisting nor forcing what was meant for me.
I come back from Joshua Tree, I go to a
place where I recover at getting a sauna. I get
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a call from a Denver number, and obviously I didn't
answer it because I didn't have it.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
I'm thinking of spam. I'm like, man, what is this?
Speaker 10 (33:44):
So the number calls back probably like three minutes later,
and I'm like, I still look at my phone didn't
answer it, and then the GM left the message like yo,
big dog, give me a call. This is George Payton
GM at the Broncos want to talk to you for
a second. So I called him back and literally right there,
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and this was Monday, he was like, Yo, can you
fly out here tonight?
Speaker 7 (34:07):
And I was like, mind you.
Speaker 10 (34:08):
I've never been in this situation before, like I've always
been contracted, So it was just different, feeling this, you know,
feeling this right, and so I'm like, you know what,
Yeah I could fly out there. So I hopped through
the flight like a room eight, got got to Denver
like round eleven thirty at night, sat on the tarmac
for like fifty minutes, then then went to the hotel
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and then literally next day Tuesday, worked out, took my
physical and shit signed on the spot.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Man.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
So it's it's definitely a different experience.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah you tell them, hell yeah you fly? You buy
I fly? Come on now, yeah, you buy, I fly,
no doubt.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Hey, merceays, was it ever the thtart of your mind
that you will be able to, for one make it
into the league is one thing you want to play,
You want to have a healthy career, You want to
squeeze in as many.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Years as you can, obviously, But did you ever think
you get to your twenty.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
Man, I thought, you know, obviously coming out of UCLA
that ten was going to be a great career. And
you know, and it was a situation where I'm not
sure you're familiar with John Embury, who's my tight end coach.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
At he was in camp with me my rookie year
in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
Okay, okay, so you know Mbo. You know his uh,
his energy and just the type of person the is
so obviously Mbo. You know, he coached toting his dollars
George Kettle for a little while, remember Daniel Graham. So
as far as like that, his resume is dipped in
blood when it comes to like tight ends and how
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he's able to get across to those guys and you know,
and I remember I would say he got to Ucla
my sophomore year, then fired the tight end coach we
had he got to Ucla. In the first conversation we had,
he was like, look and come to Ucla to coach
for Ucla? He said, I came to Ucla to coach.
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You gave me a whole rundown of like my family
knew where I was from. I'm from the East side
of Long Beach. My mom had me at fifteen years old.
I've been through just a whole bunch. So he had
already done his homework and that kind of, you know,
lit a fire under me. And so right after that
that formed a connection and just like that vibration that
we had, and literally he took me from He said, look,
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this is where you are. Now you got the ability
to go through here. He was like, there's a lot
of people that can catch the ball, run and look pretty.
We know that you're an athlete.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
Cool, we get it.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
You want to play a long time in the league,
You're gonna have to learn how to get your nose dirty.
And it starts right here. And so he literally took
me from you know, just being able to catch a
pass and do nice things with it, to like really
being a dog and to being a dog. And so
I learned how to compete under him. And so by
the time I got to the league.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
This is my rookie.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
I get drafted in two thousand and six, Freddy t
Fred Taylor took me under his wing. Yeah, and Fred
Taylor he called me slim like at that time I
was I was six six, like two sixty, but I
didn't have the mass right, so he's just always just
caught me slim. So one the first day of pads,
we got the Oklahoma drill right, so this is like
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my first Oklahoma Drew on the NFL. We get three
d ns of Freddy T's running behind me twice and
then Maurice Drew is running behind me. I pancake the
first two guys moved a third guy out the way.
Freddy T jumped in my back kind of like wrestled
me almost to the grass and was like, yo, you
keep blocking like that. You going me in the league
for a long time. So fast forward to when I
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signed my contract. This morning, Freddy T text me and
was like, remember that conversation we had. I was like, Bro,
how could I ever forget that? That's something that I
always have with me and it's something that's inspired me
this whole entire time. So I'm just grateful to you know,
he didn't have to take me under his wing. He
played running back like it was. It's just been it's
been smooth, man. I just take it one day at
a time and you know, just get my personal best
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or whatever it is I'm doing in that day, and
I live with the results.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
You you you mentioned Mercedes, bro, that's still a long
time to get your body to go through the riggers. Look,
we know that you know, you know situational now, but
still you gotta come in there. And it ain't Jacksonville
where you got nice warm weather. You play you in Chicago,
broside you're.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Having to go and you were the Green Bay outside.
So so we get it.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
So what so once you got past year, once you
got past the year ten, as you mentioned that, I
get ten, then you get to fifteen. Because once you
get to ten, you take it one year at a time.
Once you got to fifteen, you had to be like
hold On Gonzales, played seventeen, went and played seventeen. The
way I feel right now, seventeen is in the bag.
(38:57):
What it ever a realistic chot? Once you got past fifteen,
that twenty would be into the point in nick Waye,
bro you you.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
Just hit it on the nose.
Speaker 10 (39:05):
And like, this conversation is something that I have pretty
often with people because they asked me like how did
you like, like what in your mind made you think
that you can just keep going and keep jumping up
to continue your career. Fifteen was literally that magic number
once I got Once I passed ten, I got to fifteen,
and I was like, Okay, I don't want to question
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it because I don't want to jinx myself.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
But I still feel really good.
Speaker 10 (39:29):
Right, And so I get to fifteen, I'm in Green
Bay and literally Green Bay is like, well, we want
to sign you to a two year deal because I
was only doing one year deals, trying to.
Speaker 7 (39:40):
Just play it by ear yep, and like at that
time in.
Speaker 10 (39:44):
Green Bay, obviously we had Jimmy Graham, he had signed
the contract. He was there for a couple of years,
then he ended up leaving, and then I ended up
being like the full time why. Like, so I was
the why, which means like to do it all tight
there for the listeners out there. And then we had
obviously the pass catching tight end at that time Robert Tallyan.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
So I was doing all the.
Speaker 10 (40:05):
Dirty work outside zon uh Power. I saw all that,
like edge man, I'm sitting I was doing all that,
and so they I didn't expect them to offer me
a two year deal. I thought it was going to
be one year, one year. But when they offered me
a two year deal, I felt like it was my
responsibility to go out there and continue to give them
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what they know that I that I'm about, and I
signed a deal, didn't look back, got through seventeen still
still felt really good. A Ryan ends up leaving, Davonte
ends up leaving, cop retires, Dave Batii le's I'm like, okay,
it's only me here. I know it's about to be
my time to go too. So they hit me up like, hey,
(40:47):
Sadi's like, you know, we're kind of changing the regime,
like you know, you know.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
The the.
Speaker 10 (40:53):
So I'm like all right, like no doubt whatever, like
you know, I'll figure it out. And then not too
long after that, I would say Dune Chicago hit me up.
And then we had had Luke Gessi, who was the
quarterback coach with Green Bay and was familiar with, you know,
how to use me as far as the play you know,
plays and what I'm good at, and brought me to
Chicago thinking that was gonna be a one year deal.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
Played that out, still played.
Speaker 10 (41:19):
About forty three percent of the plays at thirty nine
years old, so I'm still rolling. Then the next year
bring me back, So that's two years, and then here
we are now. It was just like a once I
got eighteen, I was like, I have to get twenty.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, I gotta get. I got it.
Speaker 10 (41:36):
I can't end, no, but I got to get you
can't Like this is I literally it was like the capstone,
Like twenty is like when I wake up on that gat.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
A whole lot of players that's ever played twenty seasons
you get. You get a Jackie Slater, and you get
a Tom Brady and you get a handful of guys.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
But maybe I don't think it's twenty guys.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Maybe maybe it's twenty guys, twenty five album people men
that ever played this game.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Darryl Green, Like, it ain't a whole lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
So let me ask you, this is this it you
travel twenty one or you've done it twenty you stopping
on a nice, a nice round even number.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
Okay, So.
Speaker 10 (42:20):
So this will be the first time I've ever said this,
because I haven't, But.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
This is it.
Speaker 7 (42:27):
Like if I said that last year, Like if I
said that after.
Speaker 10 (42:32):
Nineteen, I wouldn't have felt like I did in these
months that I was not playing right Like bro I
would wake up sometime like the season started. It was
a few teams hit my Asian up. But it was like,
just is he still working out? Does he still want
to play? Just a bunch of like fluff. It wasn't
nothing serious. So I told my agent, Buzz Cook. I
told him, I said, look, if it's not serious, like,
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don't hit me up, because it's messing with my head.
Like someday, some days I wake up sharp and be like, right,
I feel good. And in some days I wake up
and I feel like I'm in a nightmare because I'm
waking up, I'm watching ball there and I'm in my mind,
I'm like, there's not sixty four tight ends better than
me in this league.
Speaker 7 (43:11):
And I know I could be out there helping somebody
with body.
Speaker 10 (43:14):
Yeah, and like especially for what I do at this
point in my career, like I'm the best at this right,
like just point of contact setting, the edge, rock setting
and play pass like you know how it is, like
it's yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I take it.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Up and whatever you want, whatever you want to do. Hey,
if y'all want to put let me be killing it.
I get on that island.
Speaker 7 (43:38):
And so hey, hey, and that's kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 10 (43:42):
And you know, today Sean Payton pulled me aside and
was like, I've been watching you for the last eight years,
Like even when I was in Green Bay, the Saints
kept trying to get me. When he was with the Saints,
he was like, I just want you to know that
I've been watching this for the last eight years.
Speaker 7 (43:58):
I know what you're about. Everybody talks about how.
Speaker 10 (44:01):
You are as a person, like I get it, but
you're not staying in this league for as long as
you have just for being a great leader. You've been dominant.
We need somebody like you. And so they made me
feel valued. They made me feel welcome and to be
honest with you guys, like today was the first time
I felt like like nervous because it was like I'm
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forty one, I didn't do camp, no OTAs, what's my
reaction time, Like regardless if I'm working out right.
Speaker 7 (44:35):
Like you play football exactly excited.
Speaker 10 (44:40):
And I really questioned myself, like the night before going
toside my contract and then going to practice, like I'm
in there and I'm like, you know, he's they give it,
like you know, they give me the playbook, all of
that I'm looking through and I'm.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
Like, okay.
Speaker 10 (44:54):
Every hour that went by today I felt more and
more confident. Like I get in there and it's just
like all my teammates are like, you know, you know,
just loving me up, bro, and I'm just like, damn,
like this is where I'm supposed to be, you know it,
And it feels good and right. Once I got on
the field, Bro, it was just like riding the bike.
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So I'm I'm grateful for the moment. I've always been
in gratitude. I lead with just gratitude, man or not. Yeah,
it's special, bro.
Speaker 8 (45:25):
Joe, you had a question. Yeah, that's I wanted to say.
First of all, I'm gonna say these man, congratts on
twenty years. Bro, that's a long time, especially in the NFL.
What what's the biggest difference. What would you say the
biggest difference is from like year one to like year
twenty now, whether it be mindset training obviously, you know
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what would probably be the biggest difference.
Speaker 10 (45:50):
I think the biggest difference for me, Bro is, uh,
the time I had to form a routine is when
I first got into the league. Right like those first
three years, you're trying to figure out who you are, right, Like,
you know you're athletic, you know that like you can
do some things, but you don't know if you can
consistently get it done at that level, right you playing
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against guys that got families that are not having it.
And when I got to Jacksonville, Dogs in Jacksonville, like
I was raised with the Wolves in Jacksonville, you know
what I mean. So I feel like being in that
environment may molded me into who I am today. And
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I would say after year three, I started to form
this routine. How like my in season workout recovery does
not change for my out of season workout and recovery.
And mind you, I said out of season and not
off season. I don't take it off right Like it's
maybe two and a half weeks of just letting my
body heal and that means infrared and kotep. I'm still
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doing something to keep the blood flow.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Right.
Speaker 10 (47:00):
Yeah, once it gets close to February, like right after
Super Bowl. I've been training to mixed martial arts now
for fifteen years. So whether it's ju jitsu, muy Thai, wrestling, judo,
whatever it is, I would do that from February all
the way to May. I do not step on the
field until the end of May, going into July. Once
I hit the field in June, I get on the
grass straight ahead running and then we do like four
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hundred breakdowns on the track and then that's really about it.
I'll do like cone stuff, but not too many routes.
Even in my prime when I was catching a ball,
it wasn't a lot of routes and like putting that pressure.
Speaker 7 (47:32):
On my knees.
Speaker 10 (47:33):
And then when I would get to camp, I would
be peeking at the perfect time, and like, I really
just feel like that regiment has paid me back right
now because I still have my legs. I went to
Jacksonville where we would run first play action pass right like,
you know, Jimmy Smith was getting out of there, Keendo
McCardell had just got out of there. It was like
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Freddy T Maurice Drew. Obviously, we had a Kyle Brady
at tight end. I was backing him up as as
a rookie. Then I ended up starting as a secondary
guy exactly. And it was like we ran the ball
bro for at least four or five years straight and
I'm still getting my numbers.
Speaker 7 (48:12):
You know.
Speaker 10 (48:12):
I went all Pro my fifth year, Pro Bowl, all
of that, but not like I should have, right and
I would always be like, damn man, Like was I
supposed to get drafted here? Like I came out of
U s LA Mack your award winner, all the records,
doing my thing. Like I get to Jacksonville, I'm like, bro,
I'm blocking isol power.
Speaker 7 (48:30):
I'm doing you know what I mean?
Speaker 10 (48:31):
Like I'm not really being used, like and they drafted
me in the first round, so I didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
That's the best thing to happen for you didn't know
it because had you brought up those numbers early, and
now all of a sudden, you're in your ten year level,
year twelve, and they're not the same as they were
year three or four.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Now, all of a sudden, they gonna say you losing it.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
But because you didn't have eighty ninety catches in the beginning,
they were like same.
Speaker 7 (48:55):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
And what we're asking him to do hasn't changed for
what he he's been asked to do the previous team,
the previous twelve, the previous fifteen. We looked it up, Marcedes,
they've only been one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,
thirteen players to play at least twenty years or more.
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Most of them wow, as you could imagine, are kickers doubt.
George Blanda played twenty six seasons. He was a quarterback,
but his last couple of years he was MAINLA kicker
Morten Anderson twenty five kicker Adam Military twenty four, kicker
Tom Brady twenty three, quarterback John Carney twenty three kicker
Gary Anderson, kicker, Jeff Fiegels twenty one punter Earl Morrow
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played twenty one as a quarterback Jackets later offensive lineman
Darryl Green, quarnerback, Vinnit Testa, Verdi quarterback, Brett Farr quarterback,
Jason Hanson kicker, and now Marcedes Lewis is on this
list of guys that have played at least twenty seasons
of more. And you play the position now, Jackie, I'll
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say Jackie might have had because Jackie had to bang
every play for twenty no doubt, for twenty years. Sometimes
you got to run, you got to run, you got
to run the routes. It was twenty years. It's still crazy.
Let me ask you this, Are you bad? Mercedes?
Speaker 5 (50:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Because I was.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Gonna say, that's an awful long time to ask somebody like, Hey,
I need you to make these sacrifices for Twitty, I
need you to pick up the kids. I need you
to be the pta, I need you to be the
recitals in the football game and all this and all
that other stuff. So you understand the sacrifices that you make,
But when you have a partner, you're also asking them
to make set sacrifices.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
Yeah, hey, Mercedes, what combat sports you do again?
Speaker 3 (50:47):
More time?
Speaker 7 (50:48):
Just a little bit of judo, some wrestling. I don't
really I think.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
That's you, right, Oh Joe you oh you already you
know hold on, hold on, hold on, man.
Speaker 4 (50:59):
You know I got a belt and all that you.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Got around the hold you're paying up. Marseides, I think you. Hey,
that's what we want right here, Marceides. And oh Joe, hey,
were you not?
Speaker 3 (51:11):
I gotta I got I got a black belt. I
got a black belt in jiu JITs. Yeah, qui bro
what yeah? You're it?
Speaker 5 (51:21):
Hey, let me tell you something I say when I'm
when I'm done with James Harrison, I beat his ass.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
I mean you, I'm you you welcome. We I mean
whatever youone do?
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Oh Joe, somebody like a man say he's six six,
two sixty five to seventy.
Speaker 4 (51:35):
Hey, listen to me, Mercedes. I'm six four two thirty.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Man?
Speaker 5 (51:40):
What you what you he do that?
Speaker 7 (51:41):
Oh, Joe?
Speaker 1 (51:42):
He you not got a word about his conditioning. He fight,
he trains like that, so you know his condemned is
through the room.
Speaker 5 (51:49):
Hold on, time out, time out, man, Stop playing with
me on, sweet Jesus, Man, I trained.
Speaker 10 (51:54):
It's just it's just different. It's just different, though, Joe.
It's like if we was just straight boxing potentially, like
you may be at atlant a couple of shots, but
I'll still fight behind my jab.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
And listen, I have Lana.
Speaker 7 (52:11):
You see. You see how I am right now?
Speaker 3 (52:16):
How you gonna get Let me ask you a question, Ojo,
how you're gonna get up?
Speaker 7 (52:21):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
You never fought from your back. You don't know how
to get up?
Speaker 4 (52:25):
You talking about man, I can fight off my back, foot,
front floor.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
I fed your back, not your back, your back, your back.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Oh I'm what I was.
Speaker 7 (52:33):
I was.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
I was the state champion grappler.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
What you talk about your ground game like no game
like that? Running?
Speaker 7 (52:41):
Yeah, it would be. It wold be dope to uh
to roll with you if you ever want to roll.
Obviously yeah, let me know.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
Let me know what's wrong with my goddamn camera.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
I'm gonna start me lining. Is your camera?
Speaker 1 (52:54):
We got, we got say this stuff, but you don't
if you want, if you want to bang the hey
he ready he got.
Speaker 10 (53:01):
To get logging off now, huh heah.
Speaker 7 (53:10):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
I don't know no spa. Only thing only spa I
know about.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
It is a tie.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
And so let me ask you a question. So where's home?
Speaker 7 (53:17):
Mer Sadies, Sherman Oaks.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
Now oh okay, okay, okay, So you stayed you stayed in.
Speaker 10 (53:21):
Calling, Yeah, I mean I'm in LA. I bought my
mama house in Lakewood, which was about thirty minutes from
Long Beach, where I grew up at you spent some
time in like South Central, usual relationship all that, you know,
you know how it go. And for me, I bought
a house in the Sino and then obviously the fires
happened and got close to the crib.
Speaker 7 (53:40):
Thank you. I was able to sell sell my house.
Speaker 10 (53:44):
Last year and then now it's more so just renting
to be more cash free because I'm not sure what
I was gonna do. Was I gonna play a twentieth
year or potentially go to the front office or whatever.
I just didn't know, and so now I gotta hold
that off for another two months or three months and
figure that out.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
But that's what told you.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
You're looking at potentially thinking the valley is probably gonna
be where you.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
Set drop anchor at.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
I think so, but it's gonna be California, not necessarily
the valley, because we don't want to give out your information. Well,
you know, probably California. You a Cali kid at heart,
so that's probably where you're gonna set up shop.
Speaker 10 (54:18):
Yeah, like California is uh, you know. I feel like
like me and my mom are like best friends too.
I don't know if I could just you know, bounce
on it like that and then yeah, and so like,
I would probably rather stay there, but I'm I love
to travel too, So even if even if I like
got something again in California, it would probably be like
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just a dope penthouse or something something.
Speaker 7 (54:42):
I don't have to worry about maintenance. I want the
panoramic and.
Speaker 10 (54:45):
I could just pull up, plug and play and then
I traveled because having the house and all that is
mortgage bro, I'm over it.
Speaker 7 (54:55):
I'm over paying mortgages. And interest rates and I'm just
over it, man.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (55:00):
So I just you know, the older you get, Like
for me, I've been more of a menialist or minimalist
the older I've gotten, And so I realized that I
don't need a whole bunch to find joy, Like I'm
I'm happy inside, you know, So all the other things.
Speaker 7 (55:16):
That like that minds you.
Speaker 10 (55:17):
Playing in Jacksonville is not It wasn't the real NFL experience, right, Like,
it's not. There's nothing in Jacksonville, right, No, come on,
I mean when I got to Jacksonville, they're robbing players.
It was barely the Yeah, dudes was getting stuck up
the gas station. Know, swear to god, dude's getting stuck
up at gas stations.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
It was just not. I was like, what am I?
Speaker 7 (55:39):
What am I doing out here?
Speaker 10 (55:40):
Like I was born in Long Beach, I saw all
that in Loan Beach, went to Ula, that changed, right,
I'm in Brentwood, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
And Westwood, you and you and you between Brentwood and Beverly.
Speaker 7 (55:51):
Get to Jacksonville.
Speaker 10 (55:52):
I'm like, okay, we're going backwards now as far as
like I'm living right and so yeah, man, at this point,
I'm just it's like the least that I have to
worry about, least overhead that I have to worry about.
Can I just pack it back and go travel and
go see the world because playing ball, I've been playing
pop Warners since I was seven, have not stopped on
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forty one. When I retire after this show, I just
want to see the world, man like in a real way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Yeah, yeah, Well you know, at your size, you know,
everybody gonna think you did something. So you go to
bar a country, They're gonna be poor. They like you
did something. You ain't just big for no reason walking around.
Speaker 10 (56:32):
Nah, And I mean I'm low key too, like I've
already checked into it, like certain places, especially in South America,
like I've been in Costa Rica for my birthday. But
like I'm getting NFL to give me some security or
something like y yea yea yea yeah yeah, I'm not
walking around you.
Speaker 7 (56:47):
Know, deally dallying and I expected nothing to.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Happen, so right, you definitely got to be on you
gotta a you gotta be on your best behavior watching
six at all times.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
And the best day to do is a NFL A
hook it up.
Speaker 7 (56:59):
For your boys set me up please.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
Right, hey, when you're at the Broncos, what what number
are you wearing?
Speaker 1 (57:05):
I'm wearing eighty nine. Okay, you got cars. I thought
you'd gonna get eighty four. I said, man, Baked, eighty four,
look good? What last time?
Speaker 7 (57:12):
Now?
Speaker 10 (57:12):
You uh best to ever do it? Bro And ain't
no way, ain't no way. And I wouldn't even, I
just wouldn't. Just I was just the respect. And and
it was crazy because you came up like I'm in
there and they're like, what number do you want? I'm
like eighty nine, and they're looking at the thing and
I was like, yeah, there's no eighty nine. And then
I looked at Champagne and Champagne and was like, yeah,
(57:33):
the best tight in there play here is eighty four.
I said, yeah, he's one of the best ever playing
in this league too, you know.
Speaker 7 (57:39):
What I mean?
Speaker 10 (57:40):
So like, and that's that's all positions, so that's not
even a question, like.
Speaker 1 (57:45):
I appreciate that. Hey, man, enjoy it, man. A. Broncos
look good. They got a nice defense. Defense in the
sensational boat Dises played really well. Courtland Suddon of Memes A.
They got guys that can go make play that can
run the football with Harvey and Dobbins. Hey, keep it going, man,
and who knows might see your saying friend, baby, Hey,
(58:07):
let's do it.
Speaker 5 (58:08):
Man.
Speaker 10 (58:08):
I appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me brother. It's
the first time you know, me and Sharp actually had
a conversation. So I was geekd for that. Oh show.
We always be seeing each other out and each other.
Joe was a pleasure. Man, Respect your brother.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
Say whatever, blue tie, jujitsu, whatever you want to do,
whatever you call it me say that, you call it okay,
and we'll get oh Jo there, we'll have pick him
up and bring you back.
Speaker 7 (58:36):
Sure, man, appreciate your love.
Speaker 3 (58:37):
Man than you bro.
Speaker 1 (58:39):
Man, Hey, that's unbelievable. Man, Ay twenty years play in
that position. I think, guys, I think I could. I
know I could have got fifteen, but ain't no way
in hell I could have got twenty.
Speaker 3 (58:55):
But why not while you're fish you know and top Joe.
We used to hit, we bang. We don't do that
bull shit that be doing now. Oh you better tell it.
Speaker 4 (59:04):
Hey, Hey, it was different. It was different back then.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
It was different. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
I came up in the nineties where we where shells
were shoulder pasts.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
It wasn't that something the shells that you have up
underneath your pasts, that's what they call shells.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
Now, we literally had on shoulder paths and shorts. That
was a shell day. But you thunded up, you thundy,
you had on full paths Wednesday and Thursday, you thunded
up nine on seven.
Speaker 3 (59:29):
Was real.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
Team was like, hey, hey they we were thumping training
camp were hell. It wasn't no walkthrough, it was hell.
Were putting people on the ground in training camp. And
you know, we we do what they do now these
joint practice O joe. But we was going overseas, so
we would go over seas. Let's just say we went
to Berlin and so we would get there on like
a Sunday. We scrimmaged, We scrimmaging the dolphins. You know,
(59:55):
we go places, we scrimmaged. We scrimmaging the of the
forty nine ers. We scrimmaging the the seattle when we
go to Japan. But yeah, it was, man, that's.
Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
It's a lot. It's a lot of fluff going yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Look I'm not saying look, I'm not saying the guys
aren't talenty because they're super talenty because you know, look
this thing called evolution. Players get better, they're more equipped,
they know more, the training is better, they eat better.
They are the cold tubs and they got a red light,
sunny and all those things. Those things are better now.
But hey, we banged for real, for real. You heard
(01:00:34):
him say, Oklahoma. They ain't doing no Oklahoma no more, old.
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
Joe, absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Hey, hey.
Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
Man, I need to fix this camera. Man, hey, you
know I had to get in. I got an I
got a new camera because obviously the last two shows
they had to use the laptop camera because the USB
wasn't recognizing the camera for me to use the actual sony.
Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
So you know, I bought a new camera today.
Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
I bought a new laptop, Joe, and they gave me
and even with the new laptop of new camera, it
still wasn't recognizing the camera.
Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
So they gave me a cam link. Is that was, yeah,
a cam link.
Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
So I got the cam link, you know, plug into
the port and it was able to recognize on zoom.
Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
But now I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
It keep it keep going in and out, little thing.
Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Since you ain't paid me my fifty nine hundred. It's
gonna keep doing that and my hunted.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
But god damn, well throw it in now, Joe. I
owe you to Joe, Man, come on, we got to
get to this. Every time.
Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
I'm just saying, Joe, I don't I don't remember betting you, Joe,
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
I know, I know, I know, But I told you.
Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
You just said.
Speaker 8 (01:01:44):
You just said on a couple of shows ago that
you that you remember owing me one hundred dollars real yeah,
And I told you the season has started back and everything.
Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
But I told you I ain't gonna hold it against you. Well, hell,
hold on, Joe.
Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Let me let me check the books. Let me check
the books. Let me check the books, and I check
the book. I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna get back
to you as far as under concerned. Listen, Uncle man, listen.
Uncle had to get that back in blood.
Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
You have to get back of blood man.
Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Listen, listen.
Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
Let me stay with me real quick. Joe, Hey, Joe,
listen to me, Joe, Joe, I've been I've been begging
from my funk hole. I'm begging from from my high
school Jersey. I've been begging for the wards Joe.
Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
He ain't send me now, Joe, then you gotta hold
his funds. Hello.
Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
On.
Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Not only that, Joe, I had I had to go
break in his house and steal to of my trophies. Hey, Joe,
I had to go still leave Joe, you hear me.
I put on my sty I put.
Speaker 7 (01:02:42):
On my man.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
It looked you Johnson. I'm gonna stop playing. Come on, man,
sit that right over here.
Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
And you see, hey, Joe, see y'all playing.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
See how y'all playing with her white with Joe? What
I yeah, Hey, I would number too in Atlanta perfect.
Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
Hey, you know I tell you. Hey, there, y'all go there,
y'all go after you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Joe.
Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Hey, hey, listen, hey, listen, it's one thing. It's one
thing about on Mary had a little lamb. Don't don't
maybe put that shisty on give me?
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Yeah all right, hey, you know what, I have to
put this pool stick on this this man?
Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Hey, you were back of the day to cut your
Joe go across your head with a pool stick. Come
after Yeah, you ain't gonna do right, I forgot to
go on, put the pool stick upside and the head chat.
Speaker 8 (01:03:40):
I don't understand, Hey, that th ain't look brand new
over there, man, and you put some used to it?
Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Been you?
Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Yeah, hey Joe, he don't play no pool man, How
you gonna been over? How you gonna been over on
the table? He ain't got no hips?
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Oh man, you know, Joe?
Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
You see that?
Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Okay, I see how you're holding?
Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
Hey Joe, anybody anybody can hold a tennis racket?
Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Georgia slim? I beat fast?
Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Hey, hey Joe, anybody know how to hold a tennis racket?
Anybody know how to hold a golf cluyer, don't mean
nicka anybody.
Speaker 8 (01:04:21):
Hey, hey man, we got a stream. We got a
stream of pool game up with us. I don't know
about you, Joe, but I beat that.
Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
And time out. Hey, you got a pool stick that
hasn't been used.
Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
You don't know how to play? No, don't worry about
what's been used. I use it on you. You remember
my grandma had on switches in the coner. They been used.
Do you act up and all of a sudden she
used them on you?
Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
See, ay, Joe, that's that's that's gonna be our show. Joe.
Speaker 5 (01:04:50):
When when football season end? I got I got a
tv U backpack, right, I haven't been able to use it.
So you know how you got all the streamers casanad
and call them boys, so we don't have nothing for
the old folks are the older crowd.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
I see you, I see you know Yo, don't worry
about this. Joe the House of Hump of Day.
Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
Hey, Joe boll We listen, we're gonna we're gonna have
old folks time. We're gonna be We're gonna bowl, We're
gonna go fishing.
Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
We're gonna play the ball already know you don't we're
gonna call it anything. You don't know how to set
no hook. You don't not to set no line. You
don't know nothing about no fishing.
Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
You talking.
Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
Hey, wait a minute, that's how I know. Hey, that's
how I know. He don't know about me. I'm from Miami.
I used to catch a Gliad.
Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Grouping back in eighty three. That's what kind of grouper
thelion group balls.
Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
They put your answer in jail. You catch a glive grouper.
Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Hold on, hold on, I threw you back.
Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Yeah, I threw him back. You don't throw it back.
They're gonna throw your ants in jail. You can.
Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
Yeah, Hey, but listen, listen, staate statement, real quick, real quick.
Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
They used to take me.
Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
They used to take me to fisherman. They call h
Captain Jack. Captain Jack used to take me deep sea fishing.
We used to catch the live grouper. Matter of fact,
when he couldn't bring it in, I used.
Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
To you don't actually go fishing for the live grouper.
They actually like just bite. So what were you actually?
Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
We caught him by accident. We caught him by accident.
He was like six hundred and thirty pounds. So what
you what were you actually fishing for snapper? Were you
fishing for tuna? Brad Zeno, what were you actually fishing for.
Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Tun?
Speaker 7 (01:06:32):
On?
Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Lord boy, hey, we were fishing for tuna.
Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
All right, I'll obliged you. We'll go. We'll go deep
sea fishing, we go short fishing, we go whatever, we go.
Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
We go bass fishing, we can go, crappie fishing, we
can go sheeting, had fishing.
Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
Drum hey whatever, Wait a minute, let's do the hardest one.
Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Let's do the hardest one.
Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
Let's go spire fishing. Let's go spear fishing.
Speaker 10 (01:07:00):
Smith.
Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
Yeah, okay, okay, okay, yeah, I'm an I'm a no man,
I can hold my breath by six minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Oh Lord, have mercy Smith. Let's go spidfish. I tell
you what.
Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Yeah, hey, hey, hey, I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
A free go look were gonna catch? We can go
catch perch, we can catch blue gill, we can we
can go fish whatever. I'm not going hunting with you
the first one. I need you to get six months
at your gun trading before I go hunting with you,
because you're not Finnah shoot me in my eyes.
Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
Ain't no, No, I ain't gonna shoot you if I'll know,
But you.
Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
Know how to Hey, hey, stay with me now, I
know how to run a pistol.
Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
You hear me? First of all? Who going hunting with
a pistol?
Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
What the hell?
Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
You humber? What you hung?
Speaker 7 (01:07:44):
What? Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
We tell you were taking a high power rifle thirty
thirty thirty sixty three or eight something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
I got my switch.
Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I don't need. Ain't going no damn switching, No, damn
see what I'm trying to talk about. Check up?
Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Hey, Joe, Hey, Joe tripping.
Speaker 10 (01:08:09):
Joe.
Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Let me show you how my hunt. Joe'll be going
to the club. I'm going to the woods.
Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
I try to we're gonna get rat a white tail,
We're gonna get We're gonna kill hogs or something up
there talking about something huge and oh we go queens
and hunt. I don't care, but I need to need
some training because I'm not going nowhere with no gun
with Jo and he ain't never shot a gun to
day of the damn life.
Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
He shoot me in bass.
Speaker 8 (01:08:37):
Hey, listen, me and the homies. We used to go paintballing.
We used to go paintballing. We we divide up in teams,
be like five on the team. Then uh, we split
up out in the woods. And uh, they come back
and say, man, I can't be on this dude team.
This dude that shot me.
Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
In my tea.
Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
We team exactly about about he going hunting. He bad
talking about he going hunting with a pistol.
Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Who the hell?
Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Oh, they ain't go Joe.
Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
Hey, the animals ain't even gonna see me coming, Joe.
Oh man, Hey, hey, ain't see me coming, Joe.
Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Oh, Joe, do you know how to get in the
tree staying? Yeah? Do I know how to get in
the tree stand?
Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
But hey, I had a tree house, build a treehouse
back at Joe can you had a treehouse thirteen.
Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Man don't know how to this. Man don't know how
to stand in no tree stand. He don't know how
to see it still he first of all, you know
he ain't tree standing.
Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Hold on, wait a minute. I went with Carson Palmer.
I went with Carson and Jordan Palmer.
Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
They took me.
Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
They took me, dear honey, I was in the tree
stand for seven hours. I had to doubt myself with people.
Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Yeah, dope, pissed excuse me.
Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
But anyway, Oh Joe, Joe, he gonna go out there
with creed On and all they animal to go spell
his an from a mile away. Hell, no, I gonna
know what you he done got on? No, no, no,
you don't know how. You don't know how to stay that.
Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
He don't know how. I'm not No, I'm a chill hey, Joe.
Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
Everything everything he talked about, undid Joe, I undid I
just I just it's not something that I'm that I'm
that I'm excited about. But I've done everything want Joe,
I done everything wants all the hunt and all that
fish and all that deal.
Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
You stay down, you know how to stay down?
Speaker 7 (01:10:22):
Win.
Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
Yeah, you ain't got no choice but to stay down
win because if you don't stay down, whin they gonna
know you? There?
Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
They got the Hey, listen them an is that they
got the greatest is the smell of all.
Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Why I have got going with you because you go
out there with cologne on.
Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
I ain't gonna win no cologne. Oh guy ain't even showered.
Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
In three days. Hey, he don't out to win. No
cameouf flies. He out there with a red christianoddle jersey.
Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
And my dad, what the animal that? Cause they smell
and they see your an with that big on red
jersey on the You don't know to wear. No, you
don't know how to man. You ain't got no gear.
Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Listen, Hey, I got I got, I got some camouflage.
Speaker 8 (01:11:10):
Hey listen, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie.
That'll be a sight to see.
Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
Yeah, that's why we're gonna We're gonna stream.
Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
It stream at twenty four seven. I know how to hunt.
Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
If we go a squirrel hunt, we go a rabbit hunt.
Were going quail hunting? First of all, Oh, Joe, you
ain't never shot no gun. You never shot no animal
on the move.
Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
Hold on time, I don't hear squirrels back in the day,
I don't hear raccoons and a possum.
Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Die here, dude, shoot with that b B gun that
penally gun with me. Yeah, oh no, I had a
sixty four. Sixty four, but that is that. Yeah. Yeah,
see that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
That's how I know you ain't no shooting. We ain't
know what the sixty four is. Yeah. Further of all,
that's what we carried. Hey, that's what we carry down
here the crib.
Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
On all. You shoot a squirrel, you, first of all,
you was a rifle man because that is a small animal.
You don't want to mess up to meet you?
Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
No, no, no, no, let me tell you something, hey, Joe,
anytime you shoot a squirrel, you got to set an example.
Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
You want to eat the squirrel for the rest of
the squirrels.
Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
And I'm not the one to play.
Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
Don't come right here with that.
Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Don't come right hey.
Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
You killing Yes, you ain't got to worry.
Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
About, Ojoe. But what you try to do, because you're
gonna eat the squirrel, O Joe, if you shoot him
with a shotgun, you're gonna mess the You're gonna mess up. Well,
ain't gonna be nothing down.
Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Oh you want to eat.
Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
I'm shooting the squirrel to set an example for the
rest of the squirrels not to call over here messing
with the mangos in the tree.
Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
I don't care the squirrels come out. First of all,
Oh yo, were going out. We ain't shooting no city squirrels.
I don't care nobody that.
Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
First of all, you.
Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
The city, We're not eating the squirrels. You're not eating
the squirrels in the city. You eat the squirrels and the.
Speaker 5 (01:12:55):
What I'm saying, that's what you can't hunt in the city. No,
but I'm saying, I mean I can adapt. That's what
That's what life is about. It's about adapting, so I
can adapt to what you like to do. If I
got to be in the woods, I know how to ask.
Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
You've ever shot a shotgun before? A twelve gauge, fourteen
twenty gauge? Have you ever shot a high power ride
for thirty out six thirty three eight?
Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
Let me tell you before football unk, I was in
the field.
Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
You hear me.
Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
A Joe unk don't know? I would many Joe, I
would like that Joe on Sweet Jesus.
Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
I was like that.
Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
I'm telling you you.
Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Were like, I ain't playing you like the Waiians out here.
Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Man, listen, Joe, I'm not proud of that lifestyle I
used to live back in eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
But see, first of all, Dwaiian, that's I mean shooting
somebody at point. It's not like they shooting somebody from
a distance. You not finna walk. You're not gonna shoot
an anima is close to somebody shooting a human being.
Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
You do realize it?
Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Like three y'all like ten feet less than twenty five
yards from each other. You shooting an animal from distance?
Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Oh, Joe, you do know?
Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
You do know I was E was in the Marines?
Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Right?
Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
You do know in the Marines?
Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Right?
Speaker 7 (01:14:05):
Do you do? You do know?
Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
It was a sniper? You a sniper?
Speaker 10 (01:14:08):
Huh yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
Oh lord a mercy, Hey, I hit it talking from
four hundred twenty feet, Joe, twenty feet at the bottle top,
the bottletop off a coke bottle.
Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
You know that man ain't shooting hitting nothing over hundred yards.
Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
That's hey, Joe, that.
Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
He might not hear her.
Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
He might not hit a person from one hundred yards away.
Let him all the damn bottle top.
Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Yo, How I lie for you? Before I lie to you?
Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
Joe, I knocked a bottle top off, a coke bottle
from four hundred and I only got.
Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Knowing how hard it is to hit an object from
that far away, that small Take your glasses off, Take
your glasses. Let me see how you shoot. Take your
glasses off. He put the gun up, putting together. Okay,
you got the god how you shooting?
Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:15:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Oh hey, man got a sleep shot. This man got
a sling shot, Joe, Joe, this bad got a slave shot.
Second of all, you shooting him with that distance? You
got both eyes open? Oh Joe, you're not shoot from
no one. I thought this man got a sling shot, Joe.
(01:15:25):
This man be thinking, Hey, shooting the liar, he David, Joe.
Speaker 8 (01:15:30):
He ain't going I ain't gonna lie, Okay, oh Jo,
what that'll be some musty TV boy. I'm telling I'm
telling you, Hey, hey, I'm not gonna like, Oh Joe,
I don't think you can hit name thing.
Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
Hey, Hey, hey, listen, that's that's what I like people.
Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
That's what I like people to think I can't hit that,
I can't hit this, But then they get hit it's like,
oh he really liked it.
Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Oh Joe, you if you were to try to shoot somebody,
because you gotta understand the distance in what you are.
But I'm talking about an animal out a deer, I'm
talking about a hog. I'm talking about it. I can't
held up in the tree. I'm talking about a quail.
Because here's the thing. Let's just say we take dogs out.
So the dogs gonna start treaping, gonna start creeping up.
Now they're gonna put they're gonna freeze.
Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
And now yeah, yeah, hey, I used to have I
used to have pointers.
Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
I used to have pointers. I live in the city, Chad,
y'all believe shooting. I mean looking at looking at Joe
the way he aiming and shooting that slave shot.
Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
He's not about to hit nothing, all right, tell you
I'm I'm uncle. I'm gonna surprise you right there.
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Shannon Sharpe
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