Nightcap Hour 1: Unc, Ocho & Johnny Manziel react to Oklahoma win, Texas beating Vandy!

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Johnny Manziel react to Oklahoma taking on Tennessee, Georgia's 4-game win streak after defeating Florida, Arch Manning and Texas taking down Diego Pavia and Vanderbilt, and much more College Football action! Later, their joined by Indiana DB D'Angelo Ponds

00:00 - Introduction
3:33 - Oklahoma defeat Tennessee
12:35 - Georgia defeat Florida Gators
17:45 - SMU beats Hurricanes
28:14 - Indiana DB, D’Angelo Ponds, joins the show
46:00 - OSU have a Heisman frontrunner
1:00:00 - Texas beats Vandy

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the dB D. Angelo Ponds joined us a little bit later.
But the game you just watched, the Oklahoma Sooners take
down the number eighteen ou Sooners take down the number

(03:39):
fourteen Volunteers by the score of thirty three twenty seven.
Mattier had eight with nineteen of twenty nine one fifty
nine no touchdowns one of the exceptions they got. Xavier Robinson
had sixteen carries for a buck fifteen of the touchdown.
John Mattier had sixteen carries for eighty yards in a touchdown,
thirty five rush attempts one ninety two two touchdown, But

(04:01):
it was Tennessee that could not get out of their
own way. Aguilar had an outstanding day passing the football,
but two very costly interceptions and he fomled the ball
that went back for a touchdown. He was twenty nine
or forty five, three ninety three, three touchdowns tour interceptions.
They didn't run the ball well at all. Oklahoma Sooner
put a lot of pressure on him. I don't know
what the right tackle is thinking, because he gave up

(04:21):
the sack. They got the quarterback hit, and then he
gave him another sack that ended up getting them pushed,
pushed them out of field goal right Jojo. And then
I'm trying to figure out the full back. Bro, you
damn there out of bounds and you ain't got your
head around yet. So what do you think is gonna happen?
What do you want? I mean, if he throw it
to you out of bounds, it's incomplete, and then the
ball hits you in the damn fase you on the football?

(04:44):
You can't even then out of what he damned out
of bounds? He damned on this, on this, he damned
there about the high five Josh Heifel. I'm like, bro,
get your head around, bro, and the ball hit him
in his face. I'm like, Lord, have mercy. This explains
why I cannot be a coach. Oh Joe, watching this game. Man, Look,

(05:08):
Tennessee had this game in control because at one point
in time, I think, oh, you had like less than
one hundred yards. But they were like right there in
the ball game because of the mistakes that Tennessee was making,
leaving them in the ball game, and what happened. You
leave a team around long enough, bad things are gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
And that's actually, actually, this was a really good game.
I enjoyed it the first second quarter, at the half,
it was very close. It was going it was going
back and forth, and I thought it was going to
come down to the whoever had the ball last, and
obviously Tennessee who had the better numbers Statistically, If if
you don't look at the end of the score, you
look at the stats, you would think that the Tennessee
volunteers won this game because of what they were able

(05:46):
to do offensively. But listen to intercessment killed them. That
the right tackle, I'm not sure what he did. We
allowed that end to come over when the when when
he put he put the ball in the belly, he
faked it and he came up.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Ain't that dude hit him?

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I mean, listen, I don't I don't know I don't think.
First of all, I don't know why he stepped down
on Yo. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
There was no threat, no threat to even have to
step down. The damn the damn in it is playing.
Damn there at the nine, all the way out.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
He in the wide now he absolutely is. So there's nobody.
There's nobody there the block.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Not only do do they fumble, they picked the guy.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Damn ball up and take that bitch all the way
back and they couldn't get him on the ground. I'm like, damn,
you just it. You've already made You've made a mistake.
Don't exacerbate it. Just get him on.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Ty was trying to get him on the grinding. He
couldn't get him down. But outside of that, it was good.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
It was a good game.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I was looking I was looking for Materier to do
a little bit more through the air. I was looking
for him a little bit more through the air.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
It didn't happen, but he didn't have to do much offensively.
They had to.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
They had two turn up as well. Obviously the balls
had three. Let me see penaltyes fucking Oklahoma had eleven
for eleven for one oh four. So I'm thinking when
you look at it, they were actually supposed to lose
a game. And if I think if Tennessee could have
minimized their toneovers, they would have had a better chance
at making it either either a close game or actually
winning this one.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I mean, you look at ou oho nineteen first down,
the twenty eight first down for Tennessee. Ou was four
of ten on third down. Tennessee was better than fifty percent.
They were seven and thirteen four hundred and fifty six yards,
so they outgained about one hundred yards of total offense.
But it was that one really costantly turnovers that led
directly to points and they missed Remember they missed the

(07:39):
field goal. Also, Tennessee missed the field goal. So you
can't look, oh, you have a really good defense. Materials
played starting to play a little better. He's starting to
play like he did the first couple of games of
the season before he got that injury. When he came back,
he had kind of gotten out of rhythm. But if
you look at him now, he's starting to play a
little better. But when you turned the ball over and

(08:00):
evenly matched teams, it's hard for you to overcome the stakes.
It's really hard because you look at it. One is fourteen,
the other is eighteen. And it's not like, oh, you
A is a bad team. They're ranked right where they're
supposed to be. They've got a very very good team.
But I just think, I just think the ten, the
turnovers tonight, the mythsque okay, fourth down, Bro, you stay
on the field and you need that those are those

(08:24):
are plays that you gotta have in a situation like that.
You had to lead you within control of the ball game.
Now you've given up control of the ball game through
poor play and turnovers. Now you get an opportunity to
see some of that momentum back, and you squandered that opportunity.
Give oh you credit going on the road in a
hostile environment and finding a way scratching and clog and
finding a way to win. Oh yeah, and you know,

(08:48):
you know it's funny, but uh yeah, Ilar made some
good plays. I mean, what what urts me? Not just
with college football but even NFL. You why you're running backwards, bro,
you and feel goa range and you're gonna take yourself
out of field goal range trying to make a play.
You not Lamar Jackson. Every everybody want to be everybody
want to have one of these heroic plays where they

(09:10):
get out of harm's way and they throw it or
they break they shake five people and make somebody miss
and they spin and they don't bro. You're doing too much.
You're doing too much.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
True, true, you know to be able to do something
like that to make something happen for your team.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Sure, you're gonna make ESPN.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Wow. DoD just had the bases loaded with one out
and uh Toronto got out of it and headed to
the top, headed to the bottom of the tenth, bottom
of the ten. Yep, the Sooners did what the Sooners do.
They ran for one hundred. Man, if I'm not running back,

(09:51):
I'm mad. I go down to the one yard line thanking.
We're gonna take a knee, and then the next play
you let the quarterback run. In the hell? If I
do that, I ran it inain. You ain't take my
tup because it looked a lot better, Oh Joe, If
I got a hold on that was like a fifty
something yard run because you weren't right up straight. So
a forty three yard run or forty four yard touchdown,

(10:12):
I think I take the forty four yard touchdown absolutely hell.
If I, if I, if I knew that, if I,
because I thought we gonna you know, let the time run.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Didn't do that anyway, did Somebody had to give him
that from the sideline and you go down there and
take away a touchdown and then they run it right
in the next place.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Shoot, I listen, that's my point. Yeah, I'm not I'm
not doing that. I'm not I'm not taking no, I'm
not taking none. I'm going we up and plus we're
up three. That puts us some ten.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Look, if we can't hold lead, if we can't hold
a lead with.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
A minute lefts that that's on that's on us. But
it was, it was. It was a very it was
a very good It was a very good game, very
good game. Ten seven and then oh you oh you
had to lead in the half sixteen. You had the
sixteen because it's kicked three field goal in the second.
So they had a sixteen to ten lead at the half.

(11:04):
As poorly as they played less than one hundred yards
of total offense, Tennessee is well over two fifty of
total offense. But the misquus and you know, I'm sure
coach Heipel is in the locker rooms like Hey, guys,
we let one slip away. You know, we've got to
be better. We got to take better care of the
football and when we get opportunities. Aguila threw one right

(11:26):
to the right heart of the defense. Probably will saved
ten to fifteen seconds and the wide receiver dropped it
right over the time, you know, late in the ball
game on Joe when they were they ended up I
think no, they ended up kicking a field goal.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
They ended up kicking a field goal, but it happened.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Before going to the next game.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
You want to know what the NFL throw is For
those that watched that Tennessee Oklahoma game. When Aguile threw that,
I think it was the skinny or it was maybe
a slant and he he he he. He kept his
eyes to the left and the safety missing and they
came right off the safety year in the back of
his own Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yea saw that.

(12:05):
Yeah yeah, like towards the end of the game. Now,
that was the NFL throw.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
That was nice.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
He threw that thing on the rope.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Oh he made some big time play. He made some
big time plays. But they just got to do a
better job of taking care of the football. Mainly him
the number five Georgia Bulldogs. He used to be called
the world largest cocktail party. I don't know what they
call it now, maybe they call it the world largest
office party. But they survived, come back in the fourth quarter,
like they've done so many times this year, by the

(12:34):
score of twenty four to twenty. Remember last week they
let Billy and Napier go. They have an interim head
coach and Georgia it took all Georgia could do to
come back and win the ball game. They have to
score seven in the fourth quarter late in the ball
games to get a win, and they do that. Gunna
Stockton made some big time throws, but it was a
running back that Georgia was seven or fifteen or third down,

(12:57):
Florida was two of eleven. Georgia had three. In the
sixty one total yards, Florida had two eighty one. Time
of possession wasn't thirty two to twenty five to twenty seven,
thirty five. But that fourth down really hurt Florida. I mean,
they weren't even close to get it. That wasn't even close.
Did you get did you get did y'all know the
snap count? Because it damn sure looked like Georgia knew

(13:17):
the snap count and y'all didn't get no surge. That
wasn't even close. I don't even know why they even
brought the measurement, brought y'all whyle, y'all brought the tape out,
make it down.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
It wasn't even close to getting that. Wasn't you close
to getting that?

Speaker 3 (13:30):
But now I'll say watching this game, as up and
down as Florida has been, as inconsistent as they've been
depending on who they're playing, the fact that they played
Georgia today and played Georgia so well, you know, played
the ring team as well as they did, I just
don't understand what the problem may be with Florida. I
think they're not that far away if they can find
some some continuity and consistency in each game, no matter what,

(13:55):
not playing down competition. Obviously, it starts with a quarterback play.
The quarterback play has to be a little bit more consistent.
I mean leg I mean leg Way wasn't that bad
a day. It was fifteen for twenty four weeks now
four sixty six TV. But to play like they played
the day against Georgia, it comet like well damn, y'all
really shouldn't have any losses and until it comes to

(14:17):
the big boys.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Now, sometime you expect Florida to lose.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
To you know, a game, a game like this against
you know, one of the one of the better teams
that are ranked very high.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
I think Georgia's number four, if I'm not mistaken. But
I mean, listen you, there are no moral victories.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
But to me, with my coach, the coaches got fired, right, yeah,
but the yeah with really just getting fired. To me,
this is they're no moral goddamn victories. But the way
they fought the day, I mean it was cool. Even
though they did lose.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
You're gonna gonna stock and played another good game today.
Twenty of twenty nine, twenty three two touchdowns. He did
have that one reception. Bowen's was the one that had
a thirty six yard touchdown that really put you know,
that put him in front. And then Georgia's defense did
the rest branches ten catches for one hundred and twelve yards.
I'm looking at this game, oh your and I agree

(15:10):
with you. I'm like, Florida, where was this all year? Granted,
now this is a rivalry game, Georgia Florida. The Georgia
Florida lied.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
They's played in Jacksonville, is not played on campus.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I think this rivaly is almost one hundred years old,
and so I'm not surprised that Florida got up to play.
This is the longest this is what a five game
win streak for the Bulldogs. I think the longest in
a very very long time. I think the record is
like six. But Georgia, Georgia has a good team. You know,
Kirby is a very very very very very good coach.

(15:43):
He gets very good players, He coaches him up, you know,
being under coach Saban, I see a lot of coach
saving in him and his manner rhythms and having his team.
The team is prepared. That's one thing you're gonna say
about the Kurby Smart team, the one thing you could
always say about the Nick Sabing team. They're gonna be prepared. Uh.
And that's all you can really that's that's that's all

(16:04):
you can really ask for is is that is have
the team prepared, knowing that you got horses to run
the race. Hey, I can win, I can win any war.
Just give me the web. Give me some weapons to
go fight, and I can win any war. And uh
Georgia got those dogs that can run and can fight,
and so uh it was it was a It was

(16:26):
a big win because Joe, we saw Georgia come back.
Who they come back is They came back against Old
Miss a couple of weeks ago. They can't they They've
done this like three or four times this year, either
losing at the half or losing going to the fourth quarter.
Auburn was another one. They found a way to come
back and win your Auburn Old Miss. They did it,
uh today with Florida. And so you know, you can't

(16:46):
count these guys out. If you get them down, like
killing that with a sledgehammer. You get them down, you
better you better make sure they stay down because if
they get up off the map, they're coming. They're coming.
But uh Georgia, look, they still right there. They know
they gotta hope Alabama lose a game because Alabama's beating them.
I don't know how this thing is gonna play out

(17:06):
right now, Alabama and Texas, Ay and them, But I
guess they don't divide up in the East and West anymore.
They just take the two best the one loss record,
so theoretically it could be Texas AY and them playing
Alabama even though they're on the same side. So it
used to be East West West, but they've done away

(17:26):
with the divisions this year, so it's gonna be very
very interesting to see what goes on what happens. Oh
show Yo Kines twenty overtime lost to SMU, a defeat
that significantly damages Miami ACC Championship and College Football playoff hope,
as the Hurricanes dropped their second ACC game in three

(17:50):
weeks and fell to six and two twelve penalties for
ninety six yards, including an unsportsmanlike conduct call against defensive
defensive end Marquis Mark east Lightfoot on the final driving
regulation when he hit quarterback Kevin Jennings after the Whiston
have blown for a Miami time out. That penalty helped
Miami get in the field goal range, and they kicked

(18:11):
a thirty eight yard field goal to send the game
in overtime. Carson Beck threw an interception on the goal
line in his first possession, and then SMU took the
ball in from one yard out and they won. Miami
playoff chances dropped to Night and according to ESPN's playoff predictor,
Oh Joe, over the last three four years, Miami has

(18:37):
always had games like this. They always lose a game
that they should should win and they're favored. We've seen
this from coach PASTABAWL team and I don't know why.
I don't. I don't know why. We saw this the
other night. Who did they play and he threw those
and bet through those? That was I think Virginia, but
Virginia Louisville. It was Louisville. That's what they're playing, Louisville.

(19:01):
And I just I just don't get how every year
this time, oh, this is Miami year. This is Miami year.
This is Miami year. And every year somebody that's not
even ranked.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Even you know, it's funny.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Also for those of you in the chat that are
watching right now that haven't watched SMU play, Hey, them
boys can play some ball on them boys down at
SMU despite not being ranked, they can play some ball.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
They're very good.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Goddamn God, damn Jennings through for three sixty five to.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Day t J.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Harden had what but not only only nine nine for
twenty seven My little nephew, mylile nephew played for SMU,
went to Miami Northwestern Romelo Brentson. He used to be
down there at University of Miami. You know, he eat transferred.
He's having a having a really good season for SMU
as well. But I'm not I'm not sure what it
is with Carson back when it comes to games where

(19:50):
you should where you should dominate as a quarterback playing
against what most would consider an inferior opponent.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
You got to come to the party. You got to
show up.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
And I just talk to you about it the other
day when we talk about the Heistman Trophy candidates and
how no quarterback is stepping up to the plate. Where
it seems like everybody's in one pot some some week.
One week they play good, one week they play bad.
Everything just happens to be up and down and inconsistent
all the way across the collegiate collegiate football when it
comes to quarterback play.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
And I mean, this is the game. Miami should have won,
this game, they should have won.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
They should have I like the kid from Ohio State,
he's playing his ass off. You know, he's a transfer
out of Alabama, sailing yeah, saying I think that's saying
saying the kid that takes saying him he's playing Marcel Reid,
he's playing well Simpson tied Simpson for Alabama. You know
Mendoza's gonna be there because this team is eight. No,

(20:47):
they're averaging down there fifty points a game. But I
agree with you, Carson back twenty six and thirty eight
to seventy four, two touchdowns, two interceptions. I mean, just
he'll he'll play great. Stretching, you're like, oh, man, okay,
I see, I see why Georgia want I see why
you the four or five start going to univirgit Georgia.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
And then you're like, bro, what are.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
You doing that?

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Now we're not basing off We're not basing off this
your stats.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Now.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Now we're paying you four five million dollars in nil money. Now,
we expect you to be goddamn a mini Patrick Mahomes
out there.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
If you making that kind of make you making that
kind of.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Chattel, I expect that at the collegiate level.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Judging you're different. Now, we expect you to get us
over the hump.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
We No, you are supposed to be the one to
take us to the Promised land.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Making that kind of money. It's different.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
It's different, and you got to come to You have
to be the reason we win, not the reason for
us losing. That's two weeks in a row. Now, last week,
get through four. Today you threw one note one or two,
two through two. Come on that and then costly and
the goddamn red zone.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
You got to be the difference maker.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Man and Yo Joe, we talk about college football. You
used to be Man, that's just a kid. They don't
get played like professionals. If you notice, the tenor and
the tone have changed, because now you do get played
like professionals, and we expect a certain level. Presidents and

(22:23):
universities they treat them different. Bro, we got you, we
got we're paying you fifty million. We're paying this guy.
We got another ten, fifteen to twenty million tied up
in this roster. Oh no, it ain't no more. All
these are kids. Oh you know, we gonna take some time. No,
it ain't gonna take no time. You gotta get that done.
We've given you everything that you needed. That's just that's

(22:46):
just the way it is. Because I remember we used
to talk about it, and I really hated talking college
football because you know, coming from an NFL background, we
critique differently than that's a grown man by a salary
versus an eighteen, nineteen twenty year old kill kid that's
not getting paid. But no more, no more. We see
guys like Gerremiince Smeth and when he dropping pass like
come on, bro. Or we see a guy like Ryan

(23:08):
Williams of Alabama dropping passes and they were man, oh Joe,
you and hard on him, bro.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
The man getting two and a half million dollars.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Things are different. You're judged differently based.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
On but he only eighteen, Well he getting money like
he's twenty eight. Yeah, I tell you what when you
go cast when he when that money hit direct deposit,
ain't got no age on it. It going straight to
it the cap. We have a different level of expectation
now with our college athletes after they started getting paid,

(23:38):
especially the ones that getting paid now. We don't judge
all of them like this, but the coaches we hold
even higher because of the money that they're getting paid,
because they're upgrading the amenities, because they're doing everything. You know,
you got a red light, Sonna, and you got cryoh,
and you got these different tanks and you got the
best best of offense, defensive coordinator, D line coach, linebacker coach,

(24:00):
dB coach.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
You got the best of the best. For its staff.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
You get the best. I mean, you got these guys.
I mean whatever you need protein shakes. I means soon
as you come off the field, they got protein shakes.
You get this much protein, this much coprehydrates, this much fat.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
So now, oh Jo, it's we We were looking at
collegiate players differently. We're looking at collegiate teams differently because
guys are getting paid and there's so much money involved,
so much I mean, the payout what was it? The
payout probably gonna be seventy eighty ninety million dollars per
SEC team, per a Big ten team. Yeah, hey, I mean, hey,

(24:42):
go to the college football playoffs and oh Joe, this
is this is paying your athletic budget for you.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Let me tell you something. Now, you know what the
payout is. You know, seventy eighty million, you're going to
stand five four. You understand what the budget is.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Now, the fact that you don't want to put your
hand in in in the pot, you know, and see
we can do you know, as as as a coaching
staff be like a president and VP.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Oko. You know, you know why I'm good at things
because I know what I'm doing at and I know
i'm not. I try to stay You try to stay
your lane, and I stay away from Well, okay, so
I didn't I didn't try a whole I didn't try
a whole lot of things because I don't do good
with a learning curve. Oh you do it good. Make

(25:29):
it out of y'all, suck you look, you do it good. No, hell,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
I know.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I don't know what I'm not doing.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
You got to take that back.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Now.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Now you said you like to stay within your comfort zone.
I'm gonna take it.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
As that you want to do things that you know
you're gonna succeed that and be good at.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
But anything you put that, I like doing because what
you like doing, what I'm passionate about. You can tell
what you love. You love football, I don't love coaching football.
Dodgers win this game, y'all. Mo Moto is gonna be
the world he was MVP. He's gonna do a Kirk,
He'll ins and Randy Johnson. If they win this game,
he's gonna be them VP. Two complete games and would

(26:07):
it be three wins because he'll have three wins. It
won't Bill saved because he didn't come in the save opportunity.
He would have won the game.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Wait a minute, it's five four.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
It's fine for at the bottom of the tent. Who's
up now the blue jades? What's how many outs? Oh?
I hadn't started. No, what I'm I'm The thing is
is that I learned at a very age, if you

(26:38):
were like passionate about something, you're gonna pull off.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Absolutely into it, and it doesn't feel like work, and.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
It doesn't feel like work. This is why I was
passionate about playing football. I was passionate about training. I
was passionate about, you know, getting up and going and
going and doing my school work. I was passionate about that.
I'm passionate about this creating content. I'm passionate about doing
club shape shape because I'm just to know about what
how this person came to be defend on my couch.

(27:05):
You just didn't magically appear on your couch. What were
you as a kid, What were you as an adolescent?
What were you as a young man young woman? How
did you get here? I'm interested in knowing that I'm
interested to see how similar or how different our backs were.
Everybody didn't have the hard story where they had to
work or had to walk five miles of school, and
they come from brokens. Some came from great two parent household.

(27:30):
But I'm eager to learn and to find out and
to hear their story. So I'm passionate about that. I
ain't passionate about no.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Coach, I got you.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
I ain't even lying. I go, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I just thought, I thought, you know, you know, there
there was a huge incentive. There as a huge incentive
that I continue to see all the time. And we
talked about and the pots seemed to get bigger and
bigger for those that are at the collegiate level. And
I understand what you could do and being able to
pass down some of that knowledge that you that you
would you attained and achieved over the years and passing
it back down to the youth. You know, you could

(28:07):
be like another Nick Saban. You could be like a prime.
You could be like a uh uh, who else?

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Who else? A Kirby?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
What's up? What all right? We got? Who's your run huge?
Who's your cornerback? D'Angelo Ponds Shamanad McDonald prepp in Hollywood
track Star. He was one hundred and the two hundred
meter dashes in the state of Florida his senior Sea
his senior year transferred from James Madison UH to Indiana. Bro,

(28:39):
if you win the state track meet, if you win
the state track meet in the hundred and the two
hundred in Florida, Georgia, Texas, and.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
California, you could run one thing by a.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Hey, we can't do nothing up about down. We gotta
give you your flowers, bro, Bro. So, holdo, what was
what was your time in the hundred?

Speaker 6 (28:56):
What was your time in hundred hours of ten four hundred,
two hundred? I was twenty one one or something like that.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
So yeah, hey, that's a good time. That's some good time.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Now.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
You know, I had a chance to be Olympiic and
when I when I.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Was at you know, you know, I'm at the city
that right, Yeah, yeah, you know when I went to
the Beast high you know, you ran in a hundred
in high school, I was like a nine nine, nine
nine in high school at Beach. I'm just saying, listen,
I was nine nine in the beach in UH in
a two hundred. I was like a I was like
a like a a ten ten to one. Unc no,

(29:35):
like no, I was nineteen nineteen something, nineteen five, man,
not not.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Not for real.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
I I was flying now, I was flying. I come
I come from I come from a time.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Man.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
We used to race in the street. You know, light pole,
the light post stops and stop sign car the car
no shoes.

Speaker 7 (29:55):
That's a crib thing. That's a crib thing.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. I just I want to know.
I'm gonna let you go. I have I have to
I have to ask what is it.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
About this Indiana team that got y'all boys playing like this,
Like y'all, y'all beating up on everybody team that a
game that people are counting y'all out as a team,
y'all coming in there and making making the opponents that
are supposed to beat y'all look damn near inferior.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
I feel like the outside in they didn't expect us
to be as good as we are. But in the house,
we expect to beat them teams like all them top
teams with hop Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Uh, I'm looking at you guys. You beat Kenisas State
fifty six nine and you win seventy three zero, and
you win sixty three ten, and you win fifty six six,
and you win fifty five ten, and after last season,
I ain't gonna lie, I ain't gonna hold you D'Angelo.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
It's like, man, I like this an anomaly. This Hey,
they want and done.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
You followed it up basically with another season that is
as good, get better. You're saying, look, we're not one
and done. We're here to stay. We're just not a
cute story that oh Indiana. You remember the year in
twenty twenty four when Indiana did that was so cute, cuddly.
Nat you guys, coach signaty got you guys balling.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
Nah, definitely ain't going last year.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
Last year it was like we were making history every game,
like they ain't never had nine games won in a row.

Speaker 7 (31:23):
But we're doing it again this year, showing everybody we
could do it again. It will luck.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
As matter of fact, you know what I think about.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Obviously, there's a there's a deeper route to why you
guys are having this kind of success. Most of the time,
you know, you look, you look at the Nick saving
the Nick saving years. You look at the Kirby smart
and some of those coaches that have boys had those
great teams. Where are most of the kids from that
are on Indiana's team?

Speaker 7 (31:46):
They from the South? They from the South, somewhere down south.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
See see what I mean? You see that?

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, for sure, I'm trying to figure out, Bro.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
And you said it from the South. Man, it get
cold to India.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
You don't know. I wanted, you know, I would stand
out there. It's nice as sunshine. Man, it be cold,
y'all be outside practicing in the cold. You know, pills
staatey get cold Ohio State and get cold and get
colder our I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I ain't really signed up with this. So how did
you get your body acclimated to it?

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (32:17):
You from Florida, South Florida.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
I ain't a lot when I when I first got
to college, I had to adjust. It took some adjustine
to do.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
But it's a little tricks I figured out, like some
basoline and stuff like that. That yet, you're right, But
I just got used to it just by going going
out there and playing vascillating. No, I ain't going I
don't feel nothing when I put bassline on. So I
think that's one of the tricks I learned.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
I have one more question too, especially both us being
from Florida, being from being from the Crib.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
What is it about Indiana?

Speaker 3 (32:46):
How did they get some of the players that are
coming from down south to actually go to Indiana when
you have when we have so many other options to
choose from when it comes to going to playing college football.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
I just feel like we come to them with a good,
good opportunity, like just tell them what they what they
have in front of them, see we winning.

Speaker 7 (33:04):
So I think we got the upper hand with recruiting, Like.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
Okay, everybody want to recruit now, it's not that hard
to tell them like, yeah, we're finna win, so you
just come come join like you're gonna play, okay, And
it ain't really hard to do, right.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
And you know what, D'Angelo, it's funny that it's great
that you say that, because if you guys continue this
ten fifteen years from now, you will be a part
of the class that started this. You'll always have a
place when you go back. Oh yeah, I remember him, man.
He was part of that Coach Signatty class that came
in here and kicked that thing off, they went to
the college football playoffs, they went back possibly won the

(33:42):
college football playoffs.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Brug y'all will be y'all would be like mythical.

Speaker 7 (33:47):
It's true. I never thought about that too.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah yeah yeah, and once that because yeah, oh Joe,
I mean Savannah. When I went to Savannah State, we
hadn't really never had a winning season. Everybody still to
this day talks about that class of eighty six, everybody
that was my freshman class. Everybody talks about that class.
Our senior year, we was eight and one. The previous

(34:08):
year we were seven and so we won like fifteen
in two years. We won like fifteen games. Nobody had ever,
no team ever done that. So this is what you know,
you guys having a Big ten. Can you imagine a
Big ten championship for Indiana? A college football playoff national check?
Bra you a legend. You will never ever have to

(34:29):
pay for anything in Bloomington, Indiana ever ever again in
your life.

Speaker 7 (34:34):
Facts.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
You gotta have to think about moving back yesterday right here. Hey,
I ain't gotta pay no rent, I ain't gotta pay
no board again. I get a car eight And you know,
you know, it's so funny. The way the way y'all
beating teams, Like, do y'all even watch film? Brod you
sit what y'all did to Maryland?

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Man? Do I mean do coaches just give y'all the
day off?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Like?

Speaker 4 (34:52):
What is there to watch at that point?

Speaker 3 (34:54):
When you when you die, I'm about completely dominate teams
and every hell now, damn, don't worry.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
Don't answer that question now, Yeah, we watched film. We
ain't taking nobody lightly either. We I don't know if
you watch the game or not, but we was into
like four minutes left.

Speaker 7 (35:14):
The starters were still laying.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
We was up.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
Yeah, we was up still, So we ain't taking nobody lightly.
Everybody get the same treatment.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Right right, I mean I'm saying, okay, so what do
you guys do on a Sunday?

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Do you come in? Do y'all get treatment, watch film?
Or do you give you Sunday off and then you
guys get ready to hit it again on Monday?

Speaker 6 (35:32):
What's your stud So on a Sunday, we'll go in
for health check. Uh, no film or nothing like that.
We'll do some little hamstring work uh in health check.

Speaker 7 (35:41):
Really, that's it.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
It's just treatment and then you get to go home.
You off on Sunday. Okay, Monday, we'll come in and
watch film.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah no, you know, no price on Monday, but y'all
hit the Tuesday Monday.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
It's a walk through though, right Okay.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, okay, yeah, damn we we've thugged it up on
I did. I need to go back to school now
I should I should have been born back in two thousand. Yeah,
two thousand and three, two thousand and four, A g
I was talking about.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
When I was talking about watching film, I'm not I'm
not talking about before a game. I'm saying we're dominated
game like you, Like you played Maryland most of the time.
Let's say the Bengals, we played the Steelers. Obviously you
play Sunday, but sometimes Sunday, I mean Monday. You know,
you come in, you do your treatment, do whatever, you
go upstairs, and you watch, you watch the previous game.
But when you dominate games like this, y'all still watch film.

(36:31):
When you win a game out of ten, That's what
I meant.

Speaker 7 (36:34):
Yeah, there's always mistakes made in any each game you
could learn from.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
So okay, okay, yeah, okay, I was just curious ship man.
I see, That's why I couldn't be no head coach.
But we beat somebody fifty two ten, or we consistently
dominating people week the week score on forty plus and
y'all boys take the day off.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Man. Nah.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
Our coaches demand perfection, so they're gonna perfect you no
matter what.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Okay, Okay, I got it, I got it.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Never accept anything in the win. You wouldn't them a loss.
So even though we beat somebody fifty five ten and
somebody missed some assignments, I'm not gonna allow that to
happen because then you will think that play because we
want is acceptable.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
You guys have the third best defense in the country.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I mean, god damn when you think of Indiana, I
don't know if you really think of defense. I mean,
you're putting up fifty five points. You're probably thinking about offense.
But when you see ten, you see six, you see thirteen,
you see fifteen, you see ten, you see nine, you
see zero, You're like, okay, yeah, okay, I see that.
If that, if that your mindset is like, look, if

(37:37):
we get turnovers, we create short fields for our offense,
our offense is gonna cash in, and then that's gonna
allow us to really put pin our ears back and
then we can just sit on stuff because we know
that ball.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
That's definitely the mindset just to have our offense back
each game, make it easier for them, and they make
it easier for us some games too. So that's definitely
the mindset that not give nothing up. Won't like catches
like yards.

Speaker 7 (38:01):
On like, none of that. So that's why we were
on the top defenses in the country.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Let me match you. What what made you? What made
you choose Indiana because obviously, first of all, you probably
have you probably had some opportunity to go somewhere and
run track. You run ten four in high school, that
probably figure it's like you know what with the right training,
because they're looking at it like in high school, these
guys are really getting training like they're supposed to. But
we get the right training, we get the right supplementation
into them, give them the right nutrition, right track, coach,

(38:28):
we can probably get this guy down to the ten,
maybe even sub ten. We definitely feel like we can
get him down low twenty, low twenty point oh low twenties,
maybe even dip below a twenty. So what was your
thinking when you went to Indiana? Where you did you
want to do a dude, did you want to run track?
Play football? Or what's in there where you all in
on football?

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Crazy?

Speaker 6 (38:48):
Part with me is I didn't have no like big offers.
Out of high school. I went to James Madison with
coach Sinneti. Okay, okay, yeah, James Madison. No, I wasn't
thinking about running track either. I ran track because everybody
who played football had to run track. So I rapped, yeah,
run track. But I went to James Madison and then

(39:08):
out of James Madison, I ended the portal and it
was it was really a no Brandon to follow Signetty
to Indiana.

Speaker 7 (39:15):
So that's how I ended up at Indiana.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Oh, I had like I see, I see, I see
what you put down now? You know, hey, you know
what I'm saying. Oh try they drop a little brand
comes you know, Hanseling Grener. You know how they got
back home? They yeah, you know, Coach Signetty dropped a
couple of bread CRuMs for him, like, hey, I believe
it right here for you go pick it up, just
a little something on the flow for it. He grabbed
it and blow me to Indiana. There he is, Hey,

(39:41):
so uh uh, look you got three games left. You're
at Penn State, Wisconsin at home, and then you got
produce everything that you guys, I'm sure everything that coach
Signatty put up on the board of what the goals
and what you wanted to accomplish your three wins away
in the regular season. That's not the ultimate goal. Obviously

(40:02):
win the Big Ten. Obviously getting to the college football
playoffs this year, I obviously cash it all in. You're
three games away. How do you keep the focus? How
do you how do you stay right here and don't
get here? Like man man Penn State, they are already
up fired. They coach, they done, they done, gave up
on the season. We got Wisconsin at home. Ain't nobody
beating us at home? And then we got Purdue. Nah

(40:23):
we Hey, we got them even though that's a rob
that's a robbery game. Purdue in Indiauta, that's a robber.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
Just kid that same saying one and no mindset. We
ain't gotta change nothing up. Just go on and know
each week, not looking at head, it'll come. Whatever we
got in store for us, it's gonna come. So just
go one and each week that's the goal for us.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
That man man congratulations man, thanks for joining us tonight.
We really really appreciate having you on Nightcapter night man,
best of luck. Tell everybody, hey, congratulations, keep your head down,
keep your ears open, and full steam ahead. Man.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Hey, when y'all win the Big ten, come, I can tell.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
He appreciate that. DeAngelo Kahn's joining us tonight.

Speaker 8 (41:06):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Hey, that was dope for the Indiana Hoosiers.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
He's the cornerback on the third best defense in the
country and they give up less eleven points a game,
less than eleven points a game, actually ten point nine.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Hey, you know what that that that that what's MC
call the game is gonna be really good. That Penn
State game is gonna be really really good. That's gonna
be that's that's gonna be a tall tail and a
tough tat. Hey, Johnny, what's up?

Speaker 8 (41:32):
What I had a like a I guess we'll call
it like a Nissan. I guess I had like a
Nissan Ultimate on the World Series. So I've been sitting there.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (41:46):
Trying to Yeah, you took the Dodgers. Maybe I took
the Dodgers. They lost, Now they won they won? Actually,
so yeah, they won eleven Yamamoto was part car.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
He was, I mean oral horse Shiveser in nineteen eighty
eight did the exact same thing. He was World Series MVP.
If you go back and look at two thousand and one,
I think that's when the Diamondbacks beat the Yankees and
that's when Kurt Shillings and Randy Johnson shared the MVP.
And I said, based on what he had done in
the first game, complete game, and then he followed it
up in game six, to get him in game severn

(42:21):
and I said, you know what, if he comes in
and get to save, he's gonna be the MVP and right.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
Hisself for sure.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
He hold on, I'm confused now, you say, you you
better Nissan and Ultima on the Dodgers to win this game.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
Right, No, I'm a series when the whole.

Speaker 8 (42:38):
When the whole came out and I saw it with
Toronto versus La, immediately it was like, I think the
Dodgers are going to win this game, win that series,
one hundred periods, okay. And I went to Game three,
eighteen innings. I sat in left field until twelve thirty
in LA and watched every player that game. Probably the
best sporting event I've ever been to. In my life,

(43:00):
right and crazy? What a series, what a game the
last two nights, unbelievable world series. Everybody who's a baseball
fan should have thoroughly enjoyed that. Sure, and what a
while they are college football too?

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Oh yeah, absolutely, if I'm not mistaken. So the series
is what is it tied to the over next d.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
It's over for to three?

Speaker 4 (43:20):
That was that was game set. That's it.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
God damn the Jodges that went back to back, back
to back.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Back to back. That's the first time. That was the
first time since the Big Red Machine seventy five seventy
six that a National League team has gone back to
back with Johnny Bench and Joe Morgan and all those guys,
Tom don't don't worry about.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Back in the day.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
And see listen, when you think about the investment, when
you think about the payroll and investment that they put
on these players, Freeman Otani.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Who bet Mookie Ben, They got Yamamoto, they got Glass
Now they played Blake Snail.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
I don't know why the Dodgers figured it out. Johnny, Well,
how come the Yankee can't do it? Because the Yankee
did the same guy had the same guy. Damn philosophy
pitching and Yankee.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
I mean, if you think about it, it was it
was a Dodgers pitching that actually saved him. Yr My
motive game, because y'all momotive game, a complete game in
game six, he gave him six. He gave him a
complete game. Game he played, he gave.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
To he came in in certain situations.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
After last night, He gave him six. Sitting last night and.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
He came in.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
The helly gonna come in tonight after this pitching nine
and your shoulders supposed to be off the bone.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
You don't play until next spring. You ain't got nothing.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah, we're worried about that. That's why they gave him
what they gave.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
When when you when you when you paid? When you
pay that And that's why, that's why the Dodgers. Uh
that the Dodgers guy is the same guy that brought
just brought the the the Lakers. Ah, so they gonna
spend money. They say it takes money to make money.
You see, Mookie Besk got a two hundred million dollar contract,
Freddie Freeman got one hundred and fifty show hey got

(45:04):
seven hundred, you got a glass, now you got snailick.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
Well, congratulations you Dodgers fans.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
You know, I'm not much of a baseball fan, despite
me being a five tulur in high school.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
But congratulations of y'all boys.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Don't worry about it. I'm a bigger than I like baseball.
I don't watch it like I used to. I used
to watch the World Series all the time. I'm very
familiar with the players, I'm very familiar with the history
of the game. But man, the Dodgers, A mean, think
about it. It's been seventy five, seventy six. That's fifty
years that you've had a National League team go back

(45:39):
to back. I mean the Yankees. You remember the Yankees.
The Yankees won what ninety two, No. Ninety eight, ninety nine,
two thousand. They lost in two thousand and one to
the Diamondbacks. That was the nine to eleven series. But man, Dodgers, congratulations,
I mean, hey, I guess they got the best team money.

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Ohio State hasn't had a Heisman Trophy winner since Troy
Smith captured Bill Ward back in two thousand and six,
but heading into the final month of the regular season,
the buck Eyes now both the Heisman front runner. Julian
Saying delivered another performance in the thirty eight fourteen win
over Penn State. The sophomore quarterback completed twenty of twenty
three passes three hundred and sixteen yards four touchdown with

(46:24):
the Ladis outing Saying jump Alabama quarterback Todd Simpson and
Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza to become the Heisman favorite. Johnny,
what you're thinking, I mean, he was an Alabama He's
an Alabama transfer. Coach Saban said today that you know
he was.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
He was the coach that had him running scout team.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (46:47):
I mean, look, this guy is playing really really well
right now. Going into the last month of the season.
Obviously things change in the Heisman race. But when you
look at Ohio State's picture, the way that they're playing,
the way that he's playing, you think all of us
would probably have to agree here that he's a shoe
in for New York. He's gonna end up as a
fine Yes, for sure. Now it's kind of panned somebody else.

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There's that moment, right, we talk about it all the time.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
There's the moment that comes. Has he played stellar enough
to get to New York. Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (47:19):
Do I believe that Marcel Reids so far has played
stellar enough to get to New York.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (47:28):
I think Mendoza as well from Indiana has probably played
well enough to get to New York. But lookin played
well enough to get to New York as well if
you had to ask me. Those four guys obviously leading
the odds right now, if you're going by the odds makers,
But there is still that time to capture a moment.

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There is still that time to go out and have
a game or a play or a series that sets
you apart from the rest. Is Ohio State going to
have a game that there actually in for him to
have something like that, or they just going to breeze
through undefeated.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
Kick everybody's at Maybe we'll see.

Speaker 8 (48:10):
Michigan didn't look very good today, but you know that
game you throw everything else out the window. I'm really
looking at Marcel Reid.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
He does get that moment.

Speaker 8 (48:18):
If Texas played, If that's Texas the way they did today,
you go into the last game of the season, take
care of business in Missouri. Next week, you go beat Samford,
you get Texas day after Thanksgiving on the road.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
You look what just happened.

Speaker 8 (48:35):
I'm really interested because no way would I have thought
that Vandy would have been favored and or would have
been underdogs in that game today. Vandy was never in
that game today until the onside kick was wiggling its
way out of bounds. They were never in that game
for a second. So Texas man handled him. That was
the best Texas team has looked all year. You have

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to for the first time, as I've sat on here
and bashed Arch, Manning bashed the way Texass looked. They
still have no run game. Did his receivers and their
outside blocking scheme Ocho. That was some the best hat
on hat outside blocking I've seen in a long, long time.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Open up the play.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
First play of the game.

Speaker 8 (49:17):
Arch didn't have to do a lot to get started
in the game, but get the ball out of your
hand quick, get it on the perimeter, hat on a hat,
take it to the crib. I would do this with
Mike Evans all the time. So you do have to
give Texas credit. They have a very solid old line
because Vandy threw everything they could at them. Their defense
and pass rush pretty solid.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
They played.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
They played really well. So if Arch can play like that.

Speaker 8 (49:41):
I think you go into the last game of the season,
Texas versus Texas A and M, you may have Texas
favorite in that one too.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
I think the thing is Johnny and Ocho. When you
look at it, Texas played for three quarters. They can't
play any better than what they played for three quarters. Right,
Her defense was outstanding on Padio, arch Manning was dood.
I mean he got hit in the chest and he
threw a ball in the ends on I'm talking about
he took a shot right to the chops and he hey,

(50:12):
I'm like okay walking to him March. And then all
of a sudden, come to the fourth quarter, they forget
how to play football. Two blown coverages? Bro, how you
leave how twice? They got a third and nineteen and
you let a guy pick it up. I was like, bro, No,
it was fourth and nineteen? What third nineteen?

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (50:32):
And and you you let two I mean you had
three players where I'm talking about DB's what are you doing?

Speaker 5 (50:37):
Yeah, that's just where does that come from?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
M hmm? And on the fourth On the fourth and nineteen,
I'm like, corner, why are you sinking so much? The
guy catches a sixteen yard route turned he's already at
the first down.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
You don't have to seek that much.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Hey, I was like back to saying he has four
games this season completing eighty five percent of its passes
with three hundred yards and at least three passing touchdowns.
No quarterback in the country has more than one such game,
saying who backed up Will Howard last year's championship run.
Is putting up big numbers in his first season as
a starter, twenty two hundred and twenty four yards, twenty

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four touchdowns, only three picks. Top right. Buckeys are trying
to win back to back national championships for the first
time in their program.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
And then it is Uncle Johnny. They got a good
They got a good chance to do it. They got
a good chance to do it. Listen saying saying what
it was twenty twenty, twenty, twenty twenty three today, four tds.
And when you got weapons like Cardinal Tape got Jeremiah Smith,
you know, having to come to the having it, Hey, listen,
having to come to the job. It's easy to get
the motherfucker job done when you got them kind of

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weapons they got over there in Ohio State. But what
I wanted to say about the Heisman Trophy, the Heisman
Trophy case right, and those that are all of a sudden,
the names are now in the pot towards it.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
What Johnny what what?

Speaker 5 (52:04):
What?

Speaker 1 (52:04):
What? Game?

Speaker 3 (52:05):
We?

Speaker 5 (52:05):
What we in?

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Week what ten? Week nine?

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Something like that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
The fact that it took this.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Long for for I was really like ten, Like yeah, okay,
I'm just I'm gonna just say week ten. The fact
that we're finally seeing names come out of the hat
where nobody has separated themselves for the past nine to
ten weeks says all you need to know. That says
everything you need to know. You know, they're good, they're
they're okay. But the ain't no goddamn Johnny Manziel's it

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ain't no. Cam Newton's ain't no, ain't no Joe Burrows
that from week one all the way through they cutting
the food.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
I think the thing was what happened is that there
was really no quarterback that was in the Heivesmen running
last year that came back to school. So normally, you know, Johnny,
you normally have a guy that was in the Hivesmen
running or you know, he was under and then he
came back. But you get Travis he leaves, you get
all those guys that's leaving, You get a askting Genty

(53:05):
he leaves, so busted. Think about saying wasn't even starting,
Todd Simpson wasn't even starting, arch Manning wasn't starting. So
you you coming back with the and guys have to
show you. You know they tried to. Arch Manning is
the favorite based on what now. He's played well the
last couple of weeks. But how you gonna say he's

(53:26):
the favorite now? Marcel Reid he he was a starter
last year. He probably was him and Mindulza was he
like the only starters that we can say, like, okay, you.

Speaker 8 (53:36):
Can really only say that for Marcel after he comes
into second half versus LSU last year. If you looked
away Texas and m end of the season last year,
you weren't putting him on no Heisman list. If there
was any quarterback there was returning this year that you
would have had on the Heisman list early in the season,
it would have been Penn State's quarterback.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
That would have been Drew Lark.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Oh yeah, oh well yeah, Alan, I don't know, don't
don't get me started. And matiir what MATERI didn't materir
transfer into.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
Uh Arizona talk earlier in this year, for sure.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Yeah, and so I think that's that's that's what you
have to And you said it, Johnny. You go back
and look at Joe Burrow. He had his highman moment
against Alabama. He had that run. They come out there
and they go ahead there because you know it's star
versus stars. Look at all those wide receivers that go
in the first round. The quarterback is number one, and
then you get to a going uh number five, and

(54:28):
then you have all those receivers. You got Burrow, I mean,
excuse me. You got Jella, and you got Chased, you
got Judy, you got Rugs, you got a Devonte Smith,
you got Jaylen n Wattle, you got Nae man bro
look at look at all the talent out there. So
and then Joe has that moment. You have Davonte Smith
who just goes crazy. Jaylen Wattle gets hurt and every

(54:53):
week he's having one eighty two hundred, he's running a
punt back, he's doing something that No, you got to
stand up and pay attention to me. Well, like you said, Johnny,
I'm just waiting. I don't know who or win. They're
gonna have that moment. You had your moment down in Tuscaloosa.
That was Johnny Manziel's coming out party. From that point on,

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they got a.

Speaker 8 (55:18):
Kid man down there, and I needed help though even
after that game. And this is a crazy thing the
way the college football universe works. There is an offensive
coordinator right now who's sitting at Texas A and M
in Marcel Reed's room every day coaching him.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
The name is Colin Klein.

Speaker 8 (55:37):
On week twelve of the season, Oh from Canklyin was
gonna win the Heisman that year. Colin Klein was winning
that race. I was making a late push, but they
played Baylor. After we played Missouri, our last game of
the season, I had done everything I could do. We
went out smoked. Missouri had an unbelievable game. And when

(55:58):
we got out of that game, I went to a
party with all my boys on the team and everybody
was doing a ring dunk in Texas A and M.
And I was glued to a Kansas State versus Baylor
game and Baylor beat the breaks off of Kansas State.
All Incline had a really rough night and I truly

(56:18):
believed that. When I left that night and went back home,
I knew that I had won the Heisman that night.
There used to be a thing called Heisman Pundit, and
for nine years in a row, this guy had a
website that would had predicted who win. Eight of the
nine years, he would collect enough votes from voters to
see who would win it. And I was on this
site every day checking And when he had talied up

(56:42):
enough votes and said I was going to win, I
kind of knew, but I needed help that year to
even be able to get there. And when I was
going into the Heisman, I thought, Manton, I might sneak
in and take it.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
The way the media was around then, I.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Thought, because you came from so far, you got to
realize where you came, you wasn't even nobody was.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
Really lucky to even be on the field.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Huh yeah, wait, hey, Johnny, who did you say, Mike,
who you say you thought was gonna win it?

Speaker 5 (57:06):
And Titeo, that whole girlfriend thing came out.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Yeah yeah, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 8 (57:10):
The way it was feeling like even at the Heisman,
even because you do the College Football Awards ESPN and
Disney before that, and he came through, won a lot
of awards, and then we got to New York. We're
doing all the press and everything. I'm like, man, this
guy might really have a shot. Not their name's a
really beloved team in college football. He was a great

(57:32):
player that year, got his team into the national title luckily,
you know, and I had the freshman bias too.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
That was a big thing.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yeah, well they had started. They had forgotten about that
because once they let Tebow had won it because they
used to be a situation. Adrian Peterson could have easily
won the Heisman Trophy. Herschel Walker could have easily won
the Heisman Trophy. Marshall falk his year. You go back
to look at the year the Gino Tretta what it?
How the hell Marshall Faulk didn't win the war? I
don't know, but there are a lot of guys there.

(58:02):
There are a lot of guys that wanted We go
back and look at like hold on, Like, I mean, hell,
if I played d one ball in two thousand and one,
I think I have won to hide it because Eric
Crouch ends up winning it, I'm like, how they like what?
And then Jason White wins it one year. I'm like,
y'all just giving you, y'all gotta give it to y'all.
Figure y'all got to give to somebody, no respectfully, O Joe,

(58:22):
as you like to use the world respectfully. But Eric
Crouch rushing for a thousand yards, been throwing for like
seven hundred not ain't no Heisman. I'm sorry. And it
took him throwing the ball in the ends on it
and hitting somebody put getting kicked up in there. Johnny,
you probably were too young to remember that when that happened.
But uh bad, it's gonna be It's gonna be close.
I think we're gonna have a very, very close Heisman

(58:44):
Trophy race this year.

Speaker 8 (58:45):
I think if I think if Sam comes in and
has a good game in the Michigan game, they go
to the championship game, they were all things out. He
continues to play the way he is, throwing for a
lot of yards, throwing touchdowns three plus touchdowns every every game.
If he does that continues the streak that he's on,
he's going to be tough to go beat. But the

(59:05):
thing about Marcel is he has so much ability to
be able to bring in like he had a couple
flashes that almost looked Lamar esque last week versus LSU. Yeah,
you know, he's kind of skirting into the end zone.
He's so deadly with his feet, his receivers. You know,
he's chunking the ball around. I think he has that
dual threat that fits what you've seen from myself from

(59:28):
a Mariota type. Now, does he throw it as well
as us right now at this point, No, but he
runs it well enough to have a dual threat with
you know, is in line for Heisman guys in the past.

Speaker 5 (59:39):
So obviously I'm.

Speaker 8 (59:41):
Going to be a Homer. I'm I'm starting my Marcel
for Heisman campaign here. Relatively, I think about November fifteenth,
I'm really going to fire up the train.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
But nevertheless, I think we'll have a good race.

Speaker 8 (59:54):
One right now that seems a little bit unclear, but
in a couple of weeks, two three weeks, I think
we'll start to see some people pull away.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
In a crystallize itself. Arch Manning in the Texas returned
to Darryl K. Rock Royal Stadium for the first home
game in forty two days. On Saturday, Arch went twenty
five or thirty three three twenty eight three touchdowns, no
I iNTS. The number twenty long Horns held off the
number nine Vanderbilt Commodorees despite the Commodore scoring twenty one

(01:00:21):
to fourth quarter points. Arch became the first player in
Texas history with three hundred passing yards, three touchdowns, seventy
five percent completion percentage against a top ten opponent. Manning
was blitzed on ten of his thirty four dropbacks. He
finished eight of ten one forty five. All three of
his touchdowns came against five or more pressure. His career

(01:00:44):
touchdown against the Blitz. He has the most touchdowns against
the Blitz in his career, and all three came on
play action. He had a three touchdown. He had such
three touchdown passing his career. Coming into today, Longhorns fans
chanted overrated at Commodore's quarter back Diego.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
He wasn't no overrated. Well probably with twenty seven thirty
eight for three tds.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
You and he had three sixty five man Yeah, and
then he only turned the ball over once. That won't turnover.
I just think the thing was, look, Texas got concerned.
How do you know you get a big league like that,
you start running the ball. The next thing you know,
you in third and eight and then I guess what,
you're off the field. Now, team get a little momentum. Okay,

(01:01:30):
they scored. Okay, you keep the ball for two or
three minutes, you kick it back to him. Now you
blow a possession. Now you blow a coverage. Now guess what.
The guy just scored in ten seconds. Now you got
hell on your hands. Now you're like, okay, now what
do I call? I want to make them burn the
time oules, but I also want to give us an
opportunity to try to, you know, run some time off

(01:01:52):
the clock. Now they get the ball, and you guys
had it. They had.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
The guy bobbled the ball back ahead. I mean, you
won't get a better.

Speaker 8 (01:02:04):
Hearing them talking. This infuriated me. Why we got linebackers
on the on the team because ever felt leather in
their life other than the couch and boys they touched
the rocket.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
You put linebacker the people up because you hope the
ball they didn't know what to do with it looked
like a look like an ice cube bouncing around somebody's hands.

Speaker 8 (01:02:35):
I mean, look Texas throughout that game. Yeah, you get comfy,
you let off the gas a little bit. It is
hard to keep that pace and keep that tempo up
when you you're just trying to get out of there, right.
But at the end of the day, Texas, that was
a dominant performance one that I have to give to them.
Stark game plan that and and Vanderbilt very very well.

(01:02:57):
They knew their offensive line was really struggling at Vanderbilt.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
They did the week before.

Speaker 8 (01:03:04):
They brought some good blitzes Colin Simmons. They had some
guys really getting after Pavia all day. The pass rush
really didn't settle down until the fourth quarter on those
last drives where I think sometimes you get enough plays
in college football where the play count starts to get
up there and guys just get gas.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
It's just what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
But that was it was pure domination.

Speaker 8 (01:03:24):
I mean from pretty much until nine minutes, eight minutes
left in that ball game, it was all Texas and
it could have you know, there was a late pass
where Texas ended up missing a field goal to give
Vandy the ball at like the thirty five or forty that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
Kind of started the whole thing.

Speaker 8 (01:03:43):
On third down, Yeah, the guy bounced and hit the
ground when they reviewed it, But when they put the
points up and said that it was good. And I
looked at the scoreboard and it said forty to sixteen.
I'm like, oh, this a this ass whooping. Yeah bad,
And that's how it felt really throughout the whole day.
I think you got to see a glimpse of what

(01:04:03):
Texas could be or where he's expected to be this season,
and this has given them it should And I did
an autograph signing today with Marcel Reid, Concepcion, Cravers, all
my aggies because they're on a bye week here in
Houston and we're watching that game and I'm like, yo,
Andy's getting their ass kicked and they're like yah, really,

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I'm like, this should give Texas the momentum they need
going into the schedule that they have.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
In my opinion, you know, you be the top ten
team you go in. This gives you a.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Little spark listen. And one of the reasons why they
can be the top ten team. One of the reasons
why Texas looked the way they look, you know, these
these past few weeks because of the quarterback play. Arch
Man is arch Man has decided to come to the party.
He decided to come to the party and play much
much better than what he looked like at the beginning.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Of the season and in the game again, if.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
He had been playing like this in the beginning. Oh,
I'm not saying that he'd be so high.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
That's what they would have only one loss, yep.

Speaker 8 (01:05:06):
But if he plays like that, you have a defense
like that, an offensive line that can protect you. Got
a good coach the one area of the flaw that
you haven't seen in their game the entirety of the year.
And Sark even said this, said this today, if we
can just rush the ball for one hundred, one hundred
and twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
Five yards, we'll be okay.

Speaker 8 (01:05:24):
He's on his knees every day in that building begging
to be able to find a running lane. They can't
run the ball nowhere in a Pop Warner league right now,
they couldn't run the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
And that's just like one thing that's gonna catch up
to them.

Speaker 8 (01:05:36):
Like you run into a defense like A and M
who plays the run pretty well, Like you're gonna have
a hard day when you become one dimensional.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Yeah, you one dimensional. I mean, if you can't you
you've got to be able to make people think you
could run the football. You might not be able to
run it, but if you just if them guys just
say they can't run the football, They're not gonna try
to run the football because they can't, and we just
gonna go hunt the water back. You can't. You in
for a long, long, long ass day.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
And Johnny, you know that goes for the NFL as well.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
If if you can if you can't establish the run,
if you can't push and apply pressure to players against
their own will, and having the running game to to
to kind of save you so you can pass the
ball most of the time.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
You know you got to run the ball to open
up the pass.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
Play, your play actually goes out the window. What are
you thinking for you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
Once you come one dimensional? It's a rap.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
It's a rap, Johnny. The Aggers are undefeated and ranked
number one in ESPN Strength of Schedule metric. You guys
beating Notre Dame, you beat Auburn, you beat Florida, Who's
they said, you beat the LSU. You got Missouri who's
ranked nineteenth. Uh and but you got also you're on
the road against number twentieth Texas.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
I don't know if you guys already spoke about this.

Speaker 8 (01:06:57):
Without Florida win for US looks a little bit better
today because they had they.

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
Had Georgia on the on the road. They had him
on the road.

Speaker 8 (01:07:06):
I don't know if it's you know, sometimes you get
an interim coach in there, you get somebody else play.
Lagway showed a little bit of flashes. I mean they
played Georgia really, really tough today. I think, you know,
Georgia had to go out and make some plays. I think,
once again, you know they're kind of lucky to be
able to skape out of there. But getting back to
the Aggies, look, you got to go still continue to
take care of business and just one game at a time,

(01:07:28):
take care of business. Everything is setting up for an
unbelievable showdown. This is why the rivalry was brought back.
And I think there's a lot of guys in our
locker room, and I know there's a lot of guys
in that Texas locker room that remember how last year felt.
I went to that game and I sat through four
quarters of that. We didn't come close to winning that game,
not for a moment. Both teams have a lot of

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people back. Obviously Arch is the guy now, but Arch
got in that game last year, brought a spark, scored
a touchdown. He's gonna feel confident coming into this game
against Elco. I think for our guys at A and M, listen,
this is the chance to get to that game undefeated
and do something that hasn't been done at this school
in a long, long time. Marcel, you want that heisman,

(01:08:12):
Go and take it. Go and take it against a
team that Texas by then, but they were what twenty
this week, they're gonna be ranked closer to the top
gen beat two top ten teams this year they might
be You go beat you have a number Miami, have
a number three versus a number twelve matchup in the
last week of the season, with the ticket to the

(01:08:32):
net to the SEC Championship on the line. You've already
punched the ticket to the playoff. You win this game,
this gives you a two seed and a bye. Everything
you want right there in front of you, how bad
you want it. You want to hit the club, you
want to go chase girls, you want to mess around,
you want to get in the book, you want to
bless you, or you want to go get it. Because
for A and M, I think you're you're starting to

(01:08:55):
get some respect. I think I heard saving say this
the other day. The two teams that have impressing the most,
that have shown complete from top to bottom, where they
really look like they don't have a ton of flaws
and look solid fundamentally through all areas of football special teams, offense, defense.
I have a head coach that's not putting you in
bad situations. It's Ohio State and A and M. So

(01:09:16):
for Miagis, it's still premature because anything can happen in
the SEC if you have one of those off days.
But everything that you want is right there in front
of you.