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Speaker 1 (00:00):
After the Jets debt dealt Saut's gardener, Quinny Williams, many
assumed the franchise would also deal Breese Hall. The Chiefs
reportedly offered the Jets a fourth round pick for Hall,
but New York wanted at least a third rounder and
turned it down. Oh, Joe, can you imagine what the
Chiefs offense would have looked like with Brees Hall as
(00:20):
it's running back?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey, listen, brins Hall at running back. You got kareem hump,
you got the checko. I think if if the bree
Hall trade would have went through, somebody in that backfield
would have been going.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Somebody in that backfield would have been going.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
But the kind of speed that bris Hall has and
being the change the dynamic of that offense, you know,
especially with play action, Hey, that would have been nice.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I know, I know Brine upset.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I know he mad than was I know he mad
he got Hey, I can see he I saw a
little post, Joey said, breaking news, bress Hall court at
the airport and Saut gardener locker trying to get out
of trying to get out of New York. It was
so funny, It was so funny.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
But they are right. Now, Hey, it gotta hurt, It
gotta hurt.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm leaving that team. Hold on, I'm leaving that team.
And I know what the Chiefs represents. Yeah, their record
is not the greatest, but they still got Patrick Mahomes,
they still got Travis Kelsey, they still got those weapons.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
And they have Andy Reid.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Mmm.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I'm surprised they didn't make it a fourth.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Say okay, we'll give you fourth, but we'll make it
contingent we win the division or we make the playoffs
or something like that, it converts into a third.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I was surprised that they just said no.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
But hey, Brent Beach is hard to argue against him
and Andy what they've been able to do. They seem
to always push the right buttons. Remember they went and
got Kareem Hunt, brought him back. Remember Joe, they brought
uh huh Nicole Harmon. They brought him back and what
did he do? Catch the game? When a touchdown in
the Super Bowl. So it's hard to argue Joe that
(02:04):
when the Chiefs do something like you, it's hard to
find fault. But hey, because Pacheco's gonna be out, o Joe,
He's gonna probably be out like two three weeks, maybe
a month.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, and you know what, the fact, I think obviously
the Kannassey Chiefs they value they value breist Hall in
a sense, but don't value him enough for a third.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
They don't they value picks more.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah mm hmm, especially from a team that knows how
to draft.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And the plug where is he is he on the
final year of his contract because you know you because
the thing is, oh, Joe, you don't want to have
to bring a guy in and then he's a rental
And I gave him a third year. I gave him
a third round pick for a rental. Right, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna want to sign him. So it's
been interesting to see. But I definitely think he could have.
(02:54):
Excuse me, I definitely think he could have. He could
have helped the Chiefs as the running game of you know,
but Checko's gonna be out. We'll see what Kareem Hunt.
Kareem Hunt is not really a every down back. He's
a short yardist. He's a short yardage back thirty one,
fourth and one. He can catch the ball a little bit.
I mean he block a little bit, but man bridges
(03:16):
Hall would have definitely helped football fans who miss Sebastian
Janakowski have a new guy to watch. Rams announced they've
sided kicker Harrison Mavis to their practice squad. Dubbed the
Thicker Kicker, he's five eleven, two hundred and forty three pounds.
The move comes after Joshua Cardi, Los Angeles regular starter,
is ten of fifteen on field goals in twenty three
(03:38):
of twenty six on extra points.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
O Joe, what's you thinking?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I mean, listen, that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
When it comes down to kicking on games are won
and lost on your leg, so therefore you have to
be damn near perfect. If you are kicker in the
NFL and they brought in someone he.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Played with not XFL. Did I say that right? He's
coming from from somewhere.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Now, Wasn't he.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Is? Uh?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Mexico? Is he's They signed a couple of players each
year from Mexico and put him on the practice squad.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I'm not sure, I mean, would better shoo the answer
that one, But I know, if I'm not mistaken, the
person that they did sign is coming from somewhere where
I think he missed one kick all season long. So
this is something that they do that they do need
because I mean, you know, the kicking position is very important.
Despite that you only had.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
The second kicker this year. You remember they had young
way co Yeah he yeah, yeah, they brought this other
guy in. He missed the p A t.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, they got to be.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
They don't play because it's too important. It's to the
kicking position is too important, especially when it comes to
close games and games that decided on kicks that you make.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
So this is tough. They need to bring me in
the kick.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Hey that boy Aubrey got a foot on him.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Boy, hey he got you saw Will I mean, what's
the name Will Caim Will Will Cam hit that sixty
eight yarder, Cam Little, him little, okay, Cam Little, and
then Aubrey had a chance to tie it. Yeah yeah
he missed. He missed it though, but he got a leg.
But hey, Joe, yeah, hey, that.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
That's why I thought would break the record, O Joe,
I thought, I thought all the Dallas kicker, Oh yeah,
because he's indoors mmmm and at the end of the
half something like that. You let m Cam Little kick
the seventy yard in preseason this year?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Real, Yeah, yeah, mister Steve.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
But do you know how a joe, You know how
hard it is to kick seventy and be accurate from
that god damn far out.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
You can't get no height on the ball. So you
got you got the kicker.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Be accurate, and then you got to worry about the
defensive line jumping up and blocking it because you can't
put too much height on it because you won't be
able to get it out that god damn far And
you got.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
To worry about you missing it in the back because
you ain't gotten hing. You got two guys that really
make the tackle. Those are the wing guys, and those
guys don't make the tackle. Guess what House called. He's
undrafted out of Missouri in twenty twenty four. Oh Joe,
he played in the UFL.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
That's what I meant to say. UFL Yeah, NFL.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Five eleven, two forty three Bill running back game, Yeah, yeah, Joe.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
This.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Lebron James will not be traveling for the team's upcoming
five game road trips starting Saturday, as he covered as
he recovers from side atica on his right side, according
to Shams. Shamps also reported that next step from Lebron
and his rehab is five on five live play, which
cut which could come against the G League players, or
when he returned. When Los Angeles returned from the road
(06:48):
trip on November sixteenth. Lakers personnel are still operating under
the belief Lebron would debut will come around mid November. Hey, love, Joe,
what you're thinking? I'm I like what the Lakers been doing.
I want to give some I want to give a
shout out to my young boy, Nick Smith Jr. Over there,
(07:09):
you know, for the l Yeah, yeah, yeah, he from
the crib from a little Rock.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Hey. Look look and they got ar over there who
from Arkansas too?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
So them boys getting down or what that man Ozart.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Austin Reeds from where he from Arkansas?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's probably that's probably like that's probably an hour and
a half from Little Rock. Chill out, listen, like, oh, Joe,
we ain't got but a few players in the league,
so we all got to stick together. You're right for
our roof for him, my roof for all of them.
But man, I've been hearing this about that they don't
need Lebron. This man, if y'all playing, if the Lakers
playing on going far, you're gonna need the king, man,
(07:49):
you're gonna need him. It's good that these guys are
getting out here and they're playing great, but when Lebron
gets back on the floor, they're gonna need to keep
that same confidence and effort that they have. But if
they playing I'm going far man, they gonna need Lebron
to come in and do something.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
And I was gonna say the funny thing is, as
well as they're planning now offensively with Lebron coming back,
he still fits that dynamic right so the floor the
offense still continues.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, hen't go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, No, go ahead,
I gonna let you finish.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
We want them guys to continue to have the confidence
that they're playing with right now, you know what I mean,
Like without Lebron on with Lebron on the floor, yeah,
maybe it is a little different. Maybe you know, uh,
it's a lot more pressure. But with him not being
on the floor, you need the I love the confidence
that these guys are playing with. They just have to
keep it up when he does come back. You know,
(08:45):
they can't defer to him too much, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Right, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I think the thing here for me, Joe is that
this helps with the depth because the problem that the
Lakers always had was depth, is that what happens when
Lebron and Luca's not on the floor, or what happens
when those guys are off the floor.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Now we can see that.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Now Lebron or Luca or Austin Reeves will always be
on the floor, so they'll always have somebody that can
initiate the offense. Whereas before you're like, damn, you had
to play Lebron here you're damn near thirty nine, forty
years old and you.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Got to play in forty minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Guy's party that old an't supposed to be playing those
kind of minutes. Luca wearing down, and so now you
got Ruid that's playing really well. You got uh, the
guy they got from Memphis that's playing really well. The
other night, you remember they uh what's the what's his name? Uh?
(09:40):
He was La Rabbia La and he been bawling. Yes,
it's been going under the radar because aar been playing
so great when Luca hadn't been playing. But uh, he's been,
he's been amazing for them. Yep, and you get you
mentioned you mentioned a Bryce Rice came in and gave him.
(10:03):
What did you give him, Anthern, He gave him six assists? Yeah,
BRINNI brought it, broughd it, yeah, Brodynie. So what that
does is that it's gonna give them confidence that they
can like, man, we can do this. We can do
this now. Look, you know what the expectation then I
think sometimes like when Lebron is not there and like
Luca wasn't there, it's a situation where like, man, the
(10:26):
ain't nobody expecting anything of us, but they know where
Lebron is there and therefore they know where the expectations are.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, And it's really that simple. Yeah,
it's it's championship a bus and that's it for me.
When you look at DeAndre Aiden, he's probably gonna benefit
the most out of Lebron not playing right now because
he's playing at at at a great level right now.
(10:48):
They've given him a lot of lives, a lot of yes,
little chippies right there at the rim, and he's been
playing great.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So I think it's only that's what Luca need.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
If you notice Lucas at his best when he got
a lot, yes sir, when he had Lively, when he
had PJ.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Washington when he had what's the other guy named.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Uh Gaffert gafferd You see, they went to the NBA
finals once they got PJ. Washington and they got Gaffer.
He needs a love threat. As long as he got
a love threat because he gonna get to the rim.
And now when you you least expected heat, listen DeAndre Ayton.
There's no reason DeAndre Aiden shouldn't average fourteen, fourteen, ten
(11:30):
and five when you're talking about winning Lebron and without
Lebron with both of those guys, because he's a lob threat.
So you got to pay attention to those guys. Look
at blue Box how many point Look at what zoo
Box average last year and Master went up with lobs
and putbacks. You know they run, they run it because
they're not gonna run offense for DeAndre Aiden, just like
(11:51):
they don't run offense for zoo Box. Whatever you get,
you get a lob, you get an offensive rebound, and
dug it back home.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
That's how you're gonna get your points.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
DeAndre Aiden's gonna get his points to the same way,
the same way the DeAndre Jordan. DeAndre Jordan became an
All NBA selection with nuther lobs and putbacksm running rim running. Yeah,
that's it. But I think, uh, I think Aiden he
has a lot more to his game as far as
shooting a fifteen foot of shoot. He can shoot the three.
They just don't want him to rely on it, you
(12:19):
know what I mean. But let me tell you something.
When Luca came back, I know he a bad boy,
uncle Ojo, but man, what that boy doing out there
is unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Man, I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Luca, like you know, a aar was playing amazing. Luca
came back, boy dropped forty something I ain't But again,
it so easy because the problem. The thing is Joe,
that joker. I ain't never seen nobody that can get
hot like Luca. Luca can have a twenty twenty five
point quarter like nothing. You look up, he doesn't drop
(12:55):
four to three. He done got two and one and
then it got two layups.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
He got that. What the hell?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Ye Hey, he's slow stepping the boys out there, Hey, Ojoe,
he ain't moving fast, O Joe.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
It don't it don't look Joe, and it looks it
looks like it's in a slow motion. But everything you do, work, Joe,
every day, move work.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
It's angles, bro, it's angles. It's the way he takes
angles and his brakes. He can stop on the dive
and then hit you with that step back.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
He just he.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Got, he got a lot in his arsenal man. It's
it's fun to watch the fake.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Hey, Joe.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
He and then when you don't jump, he a little
push shot and hey, and then he gets you up
in there. Dd he jumps into you and then kisses
off the glass like man, there's some bulls. Hey, and
he got he got some range too, because he's shooting
two three feet out beyond the three Yes, on a
step back.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah, that's tough. You know, you know, you know they're playing.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
They're playing right now.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah, they're playing San Antonio playing Wimby. Uh. Luca got
seventeen six and seven.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It's no he got damn.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
It ain't even have today, Joe.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
We've been keeping up with the latest on Joe and Nightcap.
Fans have been dying to know what your thoughts on
the situation. What's going on with y'all? They suspended job
job for conduct detrimental. They played the Lakers. They had
a big lead, ar and Luca go crazy in the
second half and they rake a fifteen point lead. The
Lakers end up having at one point, I think a
(14:33):
thirteen fourteen point lead. They ended up winning comfortably, but
Joe was I guess Joab was critical that they asked
Joh why didn't he play? And job was like after
coach blah blah blah, and then they asked him something else.
He'd say, well, the coach probably thought it'd be a
good that probably helped him win.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
If I was on the bench, So what are.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Your thoughts about what's going on with Joh and Memphis?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Man?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You if I could tell jos something, you just you
gotta watch what you say. You gotta watch your attitude.
You gotta watch how you care itself. You know, because
I ain't gonna lie Ocha. I'm watching the game in
the last seven minutes of the game, I'm like, what
is he doing? He just passing the ball going to
the corner. He was very nonchalant, and it just looked
like he didn't care, you know what I mean, as
(15:14):
a guy who ultimately could have been like the face
of the league, has a top five signature shoe like
to whom much is giving, man, much is required, you
know what I mean? So whatever the I know, they
got a new coach in and he's implementing the system
that's pretty much taking the ball out of Gian's hands.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
And I think I don't really think.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
He care too much for that, you know what I mean,
because he's been rocking with the rock the whole time,
making plays, doing what he do. And now they got
this other coach who's like almost similar to like Phil
Jackson when he came to Chicago.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
He took the ball out of MJ. Haynes.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
We're gonna run this triangle. It's gonna benefit the whole
team now. You know, it may take down some of
your stats, but collectively as a team, we're gonna be better.
I think it's kind of similar to that situation. But man,
just watch your attitude, bro, Like like everybody's watching Uncle
O Joe. You know, look, you can't just are you
can't just be in your feelings about what Memphis is
(16:09):
doing when you got thirty one other teams watching and
trying to see, Okay, do we think Jock can fit
in our system?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Because you know, ultimately that's what you're doing. Bro. You
still trying out for other teams.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But I think I don't know maybe maybe it's time
for him to move on because it don't look like
I think so.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, Joe, Hey, Joe, he need to change the scenery. Joe,
I don't know what else you need to see. I
don't know what else you need to see. Uncle, I'm
not sure what else you need to see. And you
say he needs to worry about some of the things
that he's doing it. You know, his mannerrhism, the way
he carry himself.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
He fed up.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
He tired, Joe, sometimes you get tired. Where the Memphis
Grizzlies going? Where are they going? Do they have a chance?
Are they going to winning?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
With y'all? Do they have a chance to compete for
an NBA championship while yoall's there? Probably not the chance?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Probably not if he played, If he played, if he
plays at a level of what we know Jack can
play at that megastar level, right, I think anything is
possible for the Grizzlies. But the way he's playing now, Nah, No,
he don't. He pouted. It was something, it was something
that was going on.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
He pouted.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
It was that situation. What was that that Game seven
that Kobe had where he just passed the ball? Oh, y'all,
think I'm gunning the ball too much. I'm gonna show
you win. And he went and stood in the corner.
And that's kind of what yoah did. And do Joe,
you say John's fed up. They kind of fed up
with John. They're not going to have that long leash
that they've had in the past. I think I think
he really like Taylor Jenkins. Taylor Jenkins, let y'all have
(17:33):
the ball. But as you mentioned, Joe, this guy here
and y'all look at that shape. Man, I want to
have I want to pound the ball like shape. Don't
nobody be saying nothing about shape, you know. Uh, the
way they the Warriors play, they play hot potato, the
bottle stick.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody pounding the ball.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Hey, Joe, I told you, I told you know, there's
a good chance you know, Uh, I heard Toronto was
keeping an eye on the Josh situation.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I talked to pat Riley and Mickey Erison. You know,
they keep an eye.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
On the situation, you know, to get to get job
to come over here in a in a more structured
and more disciplined environment.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I think he'll be happy here down in Miami.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oo oo oo explained to him, Joe, with with all
the ballet dancing y'all got going on down there in Miami.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Uhh, that's called Are you talking about adult ballet?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, hello, there we go. And you know Pat don't
play all that man.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, he run a real tight ship.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
That's a good thing. That's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
It depends if you're gonna buy in. It's a good thing.
But if it ain't no good.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Thing, Joe, everybody in the NBA, even I know about
pat Riley, you know, but you got to understand he
rules with an iron fists.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Do what you need to do in.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Court when it comes to taking care of venice, and
then you can enjoy yourself outside of that.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
It gives your chance to read.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
He don't really let you do that, not Miami.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's oto oo Hey, Ojoe, Pat got he got he
got people all over miamih.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, he gonna know everything.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
He gonna know everything you're doing.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So when you think you're sneaking out and doing this
and that, are yeah, yeah, they already know. They already know.
They already know.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'm just trying to I'm just trying to get make
my team better, man, so we can come.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Out hey, hey, But but what I do want to
ask you, uh, I want you to uh. When I
when I look at John I watch him play, I wonder,
I wonder how much does.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
He take the weight room serious?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You know, because with that frame he has, uh, and
the way he play above the rim man the floor.
I watching him several times when he played the Lakers. Yeah,
and I know, I know in football it's manatory for
y'all to lift weight.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And basketball, listen, you cannot make it through an eighty
two game season without being in love with that weight room.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Bro. You have to be in that weight room.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And when I watch him play, he got that then frame,
and he's so uh. He has so many great attributes
that I don't know if he really taking the weight
room serious?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You know, you know it's funny, Joe, now that you
say that, I think, as as small as he is,
as wiry as he is, I think if he did
take the weight room seriously. But we don't know if
he does or not. But there's only so much weight
he can put on because his frame is so small.
You don't want to get too big, you don't want
to get too boken.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But it's a ways about taking those those falls. It's
about taking that content. Look at Steph Curry and didn't
look at Steph Curry. Now you can see how his body.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah transition there, the transition over the years. Okay, yeah, yeah,
he got Steph got some nice cuts.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
What I'm saying is Jah has that body to where
he can be really cut up and lean and uh,
I just don't know, man, I don't.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Know if he takes the weight room serious.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I think that's probably first off, you know, that's that's
one thing he has to do. Man, you gotta take
care of the body, bro. You got to because it'll
take kill you and you need some paddy. I mean
I stayed sore because I stayed lean. Yeah, I mean,
I mean, hey, man, hey, you hit me like that
that Joe, and I'm I'm so for I'm I mean
I hurt. I hurt so bad because I was leaning.
(21:14):
I played it like five and a half six percent body.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Fact. Yeah, I played a two percent body fat.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's a that's a gladiator sport though, with y'all playing man, Joe, hey,
just listen, I command y'all bro, like that's look. I
never played football, but I you know, I man, that's Oh,
you gotta have.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
A little screw loose, Joe.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You gotta have a little screw loose for everybody. I know, Hey,
for everybody. You're right, you gotta have a little screw Joe.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Hey, Joe, I would I was crazy at that, Joe.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah, hold hold.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Up, Oh Joe, y'all used to be off the man.
Y'all used to be off from ads and towns for
the game.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
With smelling saw Joe smelling salt, smelling salt.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I ain't take no smell of sauce. Right before I
took tyler all, I ain't take to the toilet doll.
I take three table doll and I had. They had
my locker. I had six table doll and. Then I
had I had three five packs of Big Red. So
that was the Big Red. Was my mouthpiece? Shoeing going
with my mouth beeaece because I didn't play with a mouthpiece.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Joe, Oh you didn't want me.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I ain't hey, Joe, Hey, Joe, you know I you know,
I had a mouthful of goals. I had a mouthful
of goals, right. I ain't play with a mouthpiece because
I need to be able to talk. I talk and
I want to make sure you hear me. But before
the game, Joe, I take the smelling sau right. I
opened the pack, put the smell of sauce on my
hand right here, Yeah, put it, put it on the line,
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smelling saw Joe.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
For the game.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I was like, hey, y'all was crazy black.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
What's the little thing that they break? And then that's
that's the smelling sauce capsule, that's the smelling saung.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I used to open mind no why you opened the
whole capsule and put it and put it on.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
My hand, you know, like it like it like it
was that stuff I know.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, hey, Joe, I'm telling you what I used to do,
Joe to getting myself ready for the game.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
That stuff is. Listen. They used to put it in
a cup.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
They used to break it, put it in a cup
and yeah, man.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Yeah they got they got the capsule, they got the sticks.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Now, o Joe, that's a stick and you bring it
just popped the top off, yeah and put it back.
Oh yeah, but hey that's gonna make you hey, you
get it too much, you know, and make your hands
pass out.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah that I needed that before the game, Joe. I
need I need to be wired.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Hey, we had a guy that did he he saw
everybody else doing it, Joe and Joe, you know, he
a man.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Let me get somebody.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
And you know you're supposed to just like like, yeah, one, listen,
roll there. That stuff ain't nothing to play with. Hell,
But uh, I think is gonna come to it end, Joe.
I'm gonna be honest with you. And I think I
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think Joe John's time in Memphis gonna come to an end.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I do too that. I think it's gonna be sooner
than later. I agree, And I.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And but where them if we had to take a
few guesses, where y'all think he's gonna be. The Kings
need a point guard. They just gave up d Aaron Fox.
They need a point guard over there with Schroeder in
Westbrook are obviously you're gonna have to trade one up now.
I don't Yeah, I don't want to see him over there. Hey,
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but you got de Rosa and you got Levine over there. Yeah,
but I don't want to see him now, h I
do like, no, listen, I wouldn't mind seeing him playing
next to ant Man.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Now, hey boy, you ate Joe, you cook it Joe.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Colly, ain't going back. Curley don't want to go back
to Memphis. J cooking. It ain't nobout what do you want.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
It at? Y'all go ahead and cook Joe.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Hey, hey, look, uh, if if Minnesota can pull that off,
because in the playoffs, you know, and man kind of
wore down, he need another guy who can take charge
a game. Yeah, I think that'll be a decent fit.
I don't mind seeing him in Miami.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
But you know, okay, okay, Joe, you're cooking at night.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Joe.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
It's just it's just a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And you see, you see God Bear go Bear ain't
did nothing since he played the Lakers in the playoffs
last year. You had twenty seven and twenty it ain't
had twenty seven. Ain't had twenty seven points since then
in all the games.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Hey, uh, Miami Heat organization, all the powers that be
are probably going to see this.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
They watched the show. They are friends of the show. Uh.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
They let me know.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
When I went to the NBA Young.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Boy concert, which was held with the Heat play in
the arena, everyone told me to tell you hello, unc.
I'm just bringing that up because now we talk about
the Miami Heat. So now you know the officials that
work there, I know they do see the show.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
So therefore you heard what Joe said.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I think personally, Miami would be a good place for
John Moran to come to because of the environment, because
of pat Riley and the fact that he rules with
the iron fist. It would be a good fit for
him because you already know when you come here, we
don't play no games.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I'm gonna make sure.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I'm gonna make sure Jo's good outside of that destructured environment.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Of the NBA.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
He's going to be a great representation for the NBA
shield and and and being here in Miami. He gonna
be alright because he's in good hands with me. What
do I like to do, Joe? What do I like
to do? What's one thing I never do? I never
put myself? Were you fifty huh, y'all twenty five?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
You think I can hold on to stay with me?
Real quick? You think John come to Miami.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I can't get y'all to sit nine hours a day
with me smoking a cigar, hold on playing a video
game all day, eight nine hours.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
We no need We won't need him sitting smoking those cigs,
playing video games all day I'm saying, I want to
I really want to see him in the Eastern Conference
because I just feel like the West so thick. I
think he if he goes to the East, it'll kind
of balance things out, because right now, when you look
at the Eastern Conference, I ain't looking at nobody but
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New York and Cleveland. Probably who's gonna come out of
the East. I agree, So you send it. You send
him over there in the Eastern Conference to Miami. I
think they got a fighting chance.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Joe, you cooking the night where you the west?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Low?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Joe's your cash? Let me see your goddamn money. What
you My dog.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Tonight said two hundred, I'll see you two hundred.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
All right, I'm gon shoot it, see you two nd
I'm shoot oh Joe, Joe Jaylen Brown strikes again. He
had he had that Beijing Uh and uh it got
over rookies, Keishawn, George Tonight.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Can you see it? Can you see it on your USh?
I can see it? Stroll up.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
We guess what what do you look at that? I
tried to figure out what happened to that man hair?
He had twists at one point? What that man had
a high time fade twist. Yeah, hold on, so that
was a man that wasn't he here?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I would taking ready to say that maybe it was
maybe it was a unit.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
There wasn't no unit.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
You don't think so, No man, Yo, ain't no way
you lose all your hair in a mass two years?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
It's two yeah, two years, that's a possible, Joe. You
remember he had a hot top and then he had twists.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
He had not Hey, look look, it's just like God
cuts your hair, God cut his hair. It's time when
it was a gradual process, Joe, not over two years
you talk about you talk about me?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, God tout your hair.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You don't under saying I can. I can grow a
full a full head of hair, Joe. I showed unk
before ire to be on the show.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
You ain't show up man like you ain't gonna get
me sending to have me send my soulder heir li
for you.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
No, No, Joe, Hey, Joe, listen, Joe, stay with me
real quick, Joe, I can grow a full head of hair.
The problem is when it comes to having hair. With
hair comes maintenance. With maintenance comes having to buy supplies
to support said maintenance. What does that do that costs
more money. How do I eliminate expenses by not having
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no goddamn hair?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Joe, the hair on his head is just like the
hair on his face. That thing's blotchy. We got here.
You gotta pantch over there.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
He looked like, No, I'm telling you that there are
many pitchers of me with a with a full head
of hair.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I thought, I can see you. Look on the side, Yeah,
your hair grow. But on the thing, that thing smooth
and shiny at the top, hair growing there.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You acting like I'm Caucasian.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
No, that thing got a shave. That thing got shaved.
No grass going in the shade.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna grow it out. I'm
gonna grow it out.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
But I need y'all to tell me how how JV
did this? How did he go that? He had to
that joker had the kid? Yeah he had the kid.
Fade hot he did he didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I don't know, but I'm I'm gonna start blaming his
barbecue for putting his dry erace and stuff on his head.
But you know you gotta go out there and play man. Yeah, see,
you gotta get that what you called. You gotta have
that rents, so you can't put that spray on there
because you start sweating.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
You see the more.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Baptists, the Baptist miders than the Pentecostal middles. They get
up there, that thing coming down, all the dripping. Yeah,
hey you got a pound? They come up, Hey, how
you do her brother shop? They give me the pound
my suit? But JB, come on, JB, Hey, you gotta
let that go, JB, because he right down. He had
called Lebron to about Lebron, how I do hey? Lebron said,
(30:40):
I can't. Hey, hey you see Lebron to let his go.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Lebron.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
You know what, I bought it long as I could.
I fought it till I was party. I'm at feast
with it now. Yeah yeah, hell JB.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
And is twitt is Yeah he probably man Ojo. I
know some dudes.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And I was saying when Ball hited, so it doesn't
matter because he's in his twines now, it do matter
because Joe, you got a three hundred million dollar contract,
You got everything, you can get everything you want except here.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
You better go to Turkey. You go to Turkey and
they're only charged like seven dollars follicle.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
And you know It's funny. Everybody keep going down the
Turkey to get their head done. But how come nobody
in the US understands what they're doing in Turkey and
brings it here.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
So we ain't got to take that long.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
They can't do it. But Joe, oh, Joe.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
They charge seven dollars follicle and the USA charged ten, fifteen,
twenty dollars follicle.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Okay, so you know I meant follicles. Got it? You
got to pull out the back of your head to
get that.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Do you know what the procedure is called?
Speaker 4 (31:45):
And is it painful?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, because they do. They do give you some numb
in medicine because they got to pluck it out. You know,
they number the scaff a little bit joke, but you hey,
they plucking it out at the back and put it
in there. Man, look im, but you don't if you
know anything about hair, This hair is different than the
hair in the back of your hair.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yes, that's why. That's why it looks different.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
And you know what, I won't.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Because Ojo got that beat you back here.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Hold on this, see this would be not gonna do.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
We're not gonna make assumptions about my hair texture when
I got, I got good hair.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
My family I got look at look.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
At hold on.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
This is how you know I got good because their mama? Yeah, mama,
No they no, they mama's got good hair because of me.
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I don't sound right now. I'm just saying, Joe, my
kids long, luscious, beautiful black hair.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
You know that is you.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
You don't got no long, beautiful lushies hair. My daughter
got long hair. Ain't got nothing to do with me.
Her mom got long, her mom hair longer than hairs.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Well, no, my my, everyone, I have kids from they
ball headed son.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
You ball hed it. They got here.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
No see you got see you had I remember when
you were younger, you had police there, roll op park,
anyone in your head.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Hey hey nah, Hey, I'm feeling good, but but I can't.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
But I'm just saying at that point, at that point,
and the thing is he looking at it like, man,
I got a full ass beard, a full beard, and
out my head, ball is calling, Hey man, it happened
like that sometimes. Man, you can't you can't have it all. Yeah,
jab you can't have it all. You want to have
three hundred million dollars you want a beard. You want
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a head full of hair.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Damn you can't. And you know what, I want to try,
uncle Joe.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
What I want?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I want a beard like a like a lace front
beard and a full beard.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
They do that for you, you know how, you know
how in Philly? You know, the beard in Philly is
like a staple, a staple of a Yeah, I won't.
I want a full beard. That'll be o, Joe, Ojoe.
It's cast out here really getting a unit put on
their face man sweater god, yeah, you get that, little man.
You need to put to give your whole little I.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Mean, but I'm talking about to kind of look real, Joe.
I ain't talking about no real.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Hey man, I've been watching they be putting. They be
putting a dreads that looked real.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Hey, hey, I gotta do that for a show. Tell
me where to go, Joe? Do what for a show
like get the get the get the unit with some dreads?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I got it, I got it.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I got a guy out here.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
You bring your hands out here looking like preda if
you want to.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Now, hey, hey, hey, you know hey, come on un
hey Joe, Hey, Joe, where you at Joe?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
He he Here in Atlanta, I got a guy for you.
I got a guy who you know, Joe.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
I'm serious. I'm gonna come on the show with the
whole little look looking like looking.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Like a little getting the beard. O, Joe, you don't
need the dreads, Okay.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I' I'm gonna do the beer. I'm gonna do the beer. Yeah, Hey, Joe, Hey,
hit your boy, tell me let me know how much?
Speaker 4 (34:55):
And I you know that.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Hey, did you know the flight that Atlanta? I said,
it's forty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Man, listen, I'm gonna hit them for you. I'm gonna
have something. Oh yo, don't go on that ladder you Hey,
you want to be in that four hour line going
to ts A?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
You see that?
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah? I saw that.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
What happened? What happened to ts AD?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
They ain't getting paid? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Wait hold on, Oh so they just say forget coming
to work? Yeah? How long the government gonna.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Be like this?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
What you think?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Hey, somebody got to give? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Hey, will they get back paid for the time that's missed.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
No, they're supposed to, but probably not. Damn this this
might be an opportunity for them to like, Hey, we're
gonna go ahead and lay y'all off go ahead, lay
y'all off.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You try. If you're trying to trim the government. What
better way they gonna Hey, look, they're gonna have them
robots in there working in a minute.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Hey, that's that's tough, man, that's tough. I feel.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I feel for people that actually have government jobs and
are having to deal with the issues of it being
shut down right now and see that this are.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Times like now that snap and kneed wick.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Hey, does the president have power to over oversee and
overrule whatever it is that's going on?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I know is that President Trump said when President Obama
had a lockdown that it's on the president. He got
both houses, he got Sentate, and he got the House,
and he got the Supreme Court, and as a Republican president.
So I don't know whatever y'all want to say. All
I know is that we've had the longest shut down
in government history.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
On his watch.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
How long we've been shut down?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (36:34):
How long we've been shut down?
Speaker 4 (36:35):
What damn like thirty almost thirty days?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
We've been shut down a whole month?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Hey, Joe, see this, whity. This is why you need
people like me as president. This is why you need
people like me in positions of power to make some
of the casts. Now you might you might not like
the jokes, you might like, you might not like the entertainment.
But when it comes to making sure the people are good,
that's why I come into play. That's why come in
to play. The American people would not have to suffer.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Hear me ten years ago, Oh Joe, you know what
I remember fifteen twenty years ago that was seen far fetched.
That ain't far fetched anymore, anybody. You don't really have
to have qualifications to be at the whole qualified office.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I'm qualified as one a joe. I can shoot you like.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
You don't have to be that's the point. That's my point, right.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
It used to be that, like, Okay, you ran at
some local level, you ran you know, you ran at
a state level, you ran at some level.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Now you got a name, you can be it.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
You just need Arnold Warzenegger was governor, Clint Eastwood, just
ventured Al Franklin. There's been a lot of people just
that that got in the politics. Just don't name the
President of the United States. He never held public office before,
at no level. So it's not as far fetched. I know,
I know, I think you said the tongue in cheek,
but in actuality it's not as far fetched as.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
You as one would think.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, yeah, as long as you got the right back
in somebody back in you, that's it. Now you got
you gonna be bought and paid for them. You do
realize that, right, You don't run nothing, you don't make
no decisions.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Oh well, listen when it comes to the world and
how the powers that be worked. I know the people
that we can visibly see. I know they don't make
the cost I know they don't pull the streams. I
know the people that pull the streams. I'm not gonna
talk about it, but I know how it works. I
understand that.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
All jokes aside, I know who really?
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Who really history Like.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Day thirty six, we've been shut down to the government
where we the government, the American government has been shut down.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
For thirty six days.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
We we all we all shut down.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, but look, I mean look, and I think the
thing is people are fighting for these benefits, to snap
programs and to try to keep huh the cost of
of of healthcare down. Because you got to realize before
a C eight they call it Obamacare. It's the American
health care situation. You do realize companies could kick you
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off if you have a pre existing condition. Joe, you
got asthma. Now we're not doing sure you. Oh you've
had cancer before. We're not going to assure you.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Now. They can't do that.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
See, you won't have none of these problem with me
in office. They don't have none of these problems with
me in office. I mean, I'm here for the American people, huh.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Talking about to say for the American people till they
get in office.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
American listen, is there anything anything? Is there anything I've
ever said, if that ever said, and then follow through
with it? Think about it.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
You can't, oh Joe, you can't because you can't get
in there without the back of the thathing money.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, I know people.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Can I tell you the people I know that have
the money? Can I speak real quick? Joke?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I have a very a very strong existence down there
in Mexico. Right you know you know brother Carlos Slim, Yeah, yeah,
very good friend of mine.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You need musk hold on, you need to know, you
need to go Larry Ellison, You need to know. Zucker
Bird who you need to know? You you know, Peter Thield,
That's who.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
You need to know. You ain't even let me finish.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Okay, I got heavy hitters in my roller deck just
like that. Maybe not to that magnitude, but I'm talking
about with the bees on the end.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Hu you need no, no, no, no, no, you do.
Really you know how much Elon Musk's worth?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah, I know, like five hundred me being.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah, okay, you know how much? You know how much
Larry Elisen's worth.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, that's my homeboy, Larry Ellis.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
But zucker Bird, Yeah, so you got to get in
people with that, oh Joe. Now, their agenda. They won't deregulations, right,
they won't. They want a system of no checks and balances.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Yeah, talk to me. Okay, No, we ain't gonna talk.
We're gonna move over.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we don't want to make a political show,
that's us.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Clay Thompson has been bitched by the Maths.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
The Angela Russell moved in the kids starting lineup didn't
matter the MAVs law to a Zionist Pelicans Tonight, Claire
has been struggling. He entered tonight shooting thirty one point
eight percent from the field and twenty six percent from
thee this season, while averaging eight points a night.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
He scored eleven points tonight. The Maths are now two
and six.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Luca is averaging more points than Cooper Flag Anthony Davis
combined this season. Man, it's hard when you got a
rookie out there playing point guard. He had no point guard.
And I know that's what I'm trying to say. You
got a rookie out here playing point guard who is
not a point guard. And Clay needs guys around him
who can play mate for him. You know he's not
(41:29):
a guy now that you can just throw him the
ball and get it and go.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
That's not what he is. Nah.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
So when you got you got him surrounded by guys
who really trying to iso get to the cup, and
they trying to get their own. If you just want
to be if you just want me to keep it
one hundred, yes, and he's kind of he's. Look he
looked lost out there, if you ask me, Joe, he does,
because look at who can get in the ball.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
PJ.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Washington, that's not his role. Gafford, that's not his role. Lively,
that's not his role. Cooper Flagg ain't no point guard.
He tried to get his own. The only guy really
that could get in the ball. He was on the bench,
and that's di'angelo Russell. Now Russell's on the court. Now
he's on the bench. So what he should have done?
Speaker 4 (42:11):
And I understand he should have took his ass to
l A and had opportunity to play with Lebron.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
That can fire a shooter in the corner. That's gonna
get you excellent shots, right. I just think what the
unfortunates of you know, Kyrie not being there. You know,
it's it's obviously made his job a lot harder. He
doesn't get the looks they normally get because Kyrie can
play make not only for himself but the guys around him.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
And uh man, yeah, like he just he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
He looks lost out there when I when I watch
him play, I just see a lot of guys trying
to get to the cup going one on one.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
It's not it's not really a system for him, No,
it's not. And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
I mean, I don't know whether Pride or I don't
know if if Golden State what they offered, but he'd
have been better staying in Golden State taking less money.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
They weren't gonna keep him in Golden State, not at
the money that he wanted.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
No, right, so that's an insult to him that he's
the fact that he didn't want what Ford championship four
championship man he.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Like hold on.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
He felt like they probably owed him some back pay
and the fact that they ain't want to pay him.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
He probably thinking, But you.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Do really realize there was two years he didn't do
no play because remember he towards a cl and then
he towards he towards Achilles, and they still kept him
thirty million dollars checks coming Joe. Yeah, yeah, I mean hey,
because you gotta realize that Steph step got They owe
st death because they got step on the cheek because
his anchors were so bad. Yeah, so they they owe Steph.
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Step should be able to play till he farted and say,
you know what, I ain't what I was was, but
y'all owe me because there are times I was lighted
it up and y'all paying me chicken feed.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah, hey, they they made up for it though.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Huh No, hell nothing not with Steph. Look at it.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
That's the most expensive franchise in the NBA, eleven billion dollars.
They owe Steph a billion. They old Steph a billion,
Joe lacam and Peter Gruber. They owe Steph a billion
dollars from what he's done for that franchise. Absolutely, because
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they were look Golden State. They have a couple of
years they upset. Who they upset was that the Mavericks,
the agency. They upset the Mavericks. But for the most part,
ain't nobody Steph Curry really put them when they had
run TMC, when they had Mitch Richmond and the Hardaway
and uh.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
And Mullett, Chris Mullet, Chris Good.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
But them guys had retired twenty years ago that Steph,
Steph and Clay and Draymond. So Draymond resparted the Kevin
the ret recent comments saying that offense, not defense, is
the key to winning championships. KD Who's Too Finals MVP,
alongside Greed with the Warriors, recently claimed that elite offenses
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more important the team's success, the more important two team success.
Excuse me, but Draymond pushed back, saying, if anything, it
was like a headscratcher.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
I was like, huh.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
But on the flip side, it wasn't that much of
a head scratcher because I know, Kevin. I think when
you look at any team that has won a championship,
they had great defense. And if you look at most
teams that couldn't quite get over the hump, oftentimes it
was because they couldn't get stops. Those who don't believe
defense is valuable if it's simply they don't win. I
don't think anyone ever really been hell been on caring
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an opinion about those that don't win because of your
opinion equals zero.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
I think linv.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Moth could be true to an extent because when you
get in the playoffs, the game slows down, and the
teams that do have a guy or two who can
go get his own, who can go get a bucket.
That's valuable. That's very valuable. Also, I understand what Draymond saying. Yeah,
you gotta be able to get stops. You gotta be
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able to guard your yard, you gotta you gotta be
able to play defensive, you where you don't have to
give as much help.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
You know what I mean. So let me ask your question.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
If I take Trady off that seventeen eighteen team, the Warriors,
so there's no KD, it's Steph Clay and Draymond and
it's Kyrie Lebron and that staff the Warriors beating them.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Bron got he had two more championships. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, they remember in both game threes what Kevin Durant did.
It was Kevin Durant that hit the shots both games.
That was heard around the world. He was the guy
that could. He couldn't stop Lebron, but he can match
Lebron point for point. Now steph could go point for
point with Kyrie. Now Clay, they really didn't have anybody
that can match up with Clay because that was the difference.
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You wasn't stopping Lebron. Look at Lebron. He averred the
thirty point triple double. But KD KD was going. KD
was the guy that when I needed a bucket, KD
okay one four, KD, go get your thift, go get
what you need. Because guess what, Uncle Ojo, You couldn't
double team in. You couldn't double team KD.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
That was Steph.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Now with Stephana out there, you couldnt double team. So
you have to live with the one on ones and
you have to live with the results. You gotta hope
that man missed and he was unbelievable in them two
finals runs.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
Bro, he get that ball at the nail. You you cooked.
You just got to hope he missed because you got
because you got Clay in one side, you got Steph
on the other. Now, what you're gonna do where you're
gonna bring the double team from He can't. That's why
he was Finals MVP two years in a row. Yes,
you can't.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
You if he post up, he could, he could play
with his back to the basket. He was the only
he could get his shot. No, look, I believe you. Look,
I believe Draymond. Yes, you need defense, Yes, but in
basketball you got that dog. You got a guy that sometimes.
You don't think they try to play defense on Mike.
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You don't think they tried to play defense on Kobe
and Shaq Shack averaging thirty six and eighteen.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
What defense you got to stop that cod? What you
throw it it? Hey?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Look and Kobe was right there with him, mamaging thirty. Yeah,
Shack average in thirty six, Kobe was avage thirty. I'm
talking about in the playoff runs that they was having. Man,
that was just Mike, Mike averaging forty one in the finals.
What you're gonna do with that.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
And the funny thing too, the way the game has changed,
especially basketball, where you play defense. Defense is not the
same as it was back in the day anyway. No,
I mean I always hit the chirps and I always
hit the grumblings about they don't play defense these days,
and so is it really is? Is defense really that
much of a factor in the comes win the NBA
champiship here.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
They' jacking up a whole bunch of damn shots.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, it's it's hey, Look, it's almost like it's like
the NFL they done south of the game and and
made it made it possible for you know, the quarterbacks.
It's the same thing in the NBA. No, you can't
handcheck no more, you know what I mean. Like, it's
it's so many different variables to to enhance the game
and make.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
It it is. You know what's happened? Yeah, what has happened?
Speaker 1 (49:29):
These guys are skilled, so skilled, Yes, and the game
has been taking you know, the physicality. So now it
looks like that man, this got better than Jed Rice,
This got better than random Oss, this got better than
t o. Well, they've taken the physicality out of the game,
and these guys are skilled. Yeah, guys, I mean guys
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are skilled. I mean got you know this thing called evolution.
You know, guys get better at things. They study the
old guys and they add to what those guys could do.
So now you take a Devonte Adams that can run
exquisitely without the physicality, he ain't got to worry about
nobody putting that soup bowing up side his head. Hey, oh, Joe,
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think about last week. How many one hand catches you
saw last week? I saw more one handed catchers in
the first three four weeks of the season is than
I was seeing a whole year in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Hey, Joe, you had to think.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
You had to think twice that way, Joe, you had
to think twice during our day about going across that middle.
Forget one hand, just having an understanding of where everybody's
coming from before the snap of the ball, so you
knew exactly where it was coming from. Joe, I'm telling you,
as reckless as I played, without a care in the world,
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I understood where everybody was coming from.
Speaker 4 (50:46):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
I had to know because they already trying to knock
my head off because I talked shit before the game.
Throughout the week, I talked shit during the game, Joe.
I got to know everything, Joe, what they doing out
there to day and today's game and the way the
NFL is handicapped game where it's it's unbelievable some.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Of the players.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Some of the players are making uh without without caring,
without without worry.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
Without consequences and repercussions with none. Yeah. Hey, look when
I when I first came into the league. Okay, oh Joe,
there wasn't no fives and four shooting threes. It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
No Twyn Walker was the only guy, and he was
a power for he was the only guy shooting threes. Now,
if you can't shoot the three or catch a lot,
you can't play.
Speaker 4 (51:30):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
No, they're no post up. You don't see many guys
post up now. Now, the guys who post up, they're small,
they're guards.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
You know what I mean from like you.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
You know, when I used to watch guys before I
got in the NBA, I shused to love watching obviously,
Michael Jordan, Penny Hardaway, Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady and those
guys post up like your scores post up. Yeah, they
not throwing it down there to DeAndre a No ten twelve,
fifteen times a game.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
It's just not gonna happen, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
So if you can't shoot or catch a line now
in today's game, it's gonna be hard for you to play.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
Brother. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
So I think that that's what's happening. Is that and
these guys are extremely extremely talented, but because of the
phil physicality in both sports has been diluted somewhat, I
think it gives us a false sense. And that's not
taking anything away from these guys, because I do think
they're extremely talented. But man, physicality, boy, you a you
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thought long and hard, you had a There are a
lot of a There are a lot.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
Of prehistoric receivers had the t rex on and the
malligate on. I didn't want that.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
Hell no, boy, you go across the middle with Mike
Singletary and next thing you know, you looking at the
ear You looking at your ear hole cause they I
remember the first time I was retired and I thought
I saw a three step slant route and I was like,
I know that guy, just say run no three steps
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slat rock.
Speaker 4 (53:04):
Boy Joe.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Back in the nineties, the eighties, the nineties, you'd ran
that one time. I guarantee you, they couldn't have paid
you enough money. Runner again, listen, listen they put that.
They put that hilp it right here. Hey, Ojoe, my
rookie year, I played against stopping him alone. Ojo, I fanake.
(53:29):
I seen I seen Malone coming down the middle of
the lane. I was right up on the gold take
a charge. I old laid that joint.
Speaker 4 (53:35):
I let him lay it up.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
I let him let the man came in there with
his knees almost in my face. I said, look, coach
took me right after game, he said, you gotta take
that TI. I'm like, man, no, I don't. I ain't
if you're standing in front, No sir. All right, o Joe, Joe,
it's time to play Fade Play or Fade presented by
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they playing the Raiders? Oh yeah, hell yeah, yeah yeah.
We rather deal with Max Crost because he goes he
gonna be an issue.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Uh, what are they playing? I'm gonna take y'all word
for it, Joe. What are they playing at? They playing
in Denver?
Speaker 3 (54:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yeah, hold on, now's your quarterback and you taking our
word for you don't believe anhim no more?
Speaker 4 (54:46):
Yeah, I believe in it. Okay, Okay, it sounds like
you had some doubt over there.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Yes, yeah, JK. Dobbins more than seventy two yards rushing.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
I don't know about that when that's all you want.
Speaker 4 (55:05):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm a little leared about that Russian
seventy one seventy one. Now you been playing? Oh he's
been playing good. Oh he's been bawling. Oh he was.
I think he top ten in Russian. Yeah, that man
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has had I got him. I got him at Sydney too.
He'll get you out of Sidney two.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Raydon d got a good rud defense, though, I think
what a rates ranked defense?
Speaker 4 (55:39):
Ask? Hey, okay, oh, Jeorge fifteen.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Sixteen, So the middle of the pack we get seventy two,
We should get seventy two.
Speaker 3 (55:59):
As all we need.
Speaker 4 (56:00):
Come on, okay, Gino less than two hundred and thirteen
yards passing?
Speaker 3 (56:08):
Man? They let your Kobe go too, man.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
Yeah, I don't I don't know if Gino's gonna get that.
You're still gonna got rock Bowers.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
You still got brock Bowers.
Speaker 4 (56:17):
Yeah, I'm gonna say no, he's gonna get he gonna
know he going over that you gonna have Yeah, I
don't know this.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
This This is how I got caught up last week
the other day. We might get him though, and we
can put pressure on it. We might get him. We
might sack it by ten times. But second about ten
times though, you know what, I'm would go less. I'm
gonna go lest. We gonna sack it. We're gonna sack it.
We're gonna get his ass. Hey, so we're going we're
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going more and everything ash he said, yeah, yeah, Yo, y'all, Okay,
we're going more and more or less.
Speaker 4 (57:05):
I show hope he ain't.
Speaker 1 (57:06):
Twenty five dollars to win one hundred and fifty dollars
download after day use coach Shannon to get fifty dollars
in lineups. After you play your first five dollars lineup,
it's good to be right, all right, we're gonna get
you out of here on this. When time for our
Found fount segment of the evening, it's time to say
cute hey.
Speaker 4 (57:35):
Ur dyo o yo. You can't say foot or ball?
Speaker 3 (57:41):
I mean why, I mean it's a new week. I
mean obviously you can't say.
Speaker 4 (57:44):
You can't say that until you win.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Hold on, you can't say foot the ball after a
twenty four hour period, that goes out window.
Speaker 4 (57:51):
No put on ball until you win another game.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
Life resets.
Speaker 4 (57:56):
No, it don't. Uh, Hannah said Jalen is three for
three from the hairline.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
Uh uh Old Cardio said, Oh, either the camera's playing
trick or that interimatetent fast and kicked hit real.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
I watched yesterday's showing tune in the day like, hold up,
what happened?
Speaker 2 (58:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (58:26):
What's talking about? I did only eat once today though bad,
But I don't think that it'll have been faster. I
will starting, I got I think I will start. I
will start next week. Cyndergy Energy. How do you feel
about Nick's opinion from the first from the first. First thing? First,
what he had to say about the Broncos?
Speaker 4 (58:46):
What do he say? What did he say? The Broncos
aren't real?
Speaker 1 (58:56):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (58:56):
Yeah, you gotta realize Nick's from Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
He's a He's a Kansas City and it's a great
time to be to be a fan of Kansas City.
But Nick knows, like I know, we used to beat
the breaks off Kansas City. So it's by time y'all
get some payback. But the Broncos gonna be Kansas City
when they come to them. Watch tona g Say ranked
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these receivers one through four over the past ten years.
Ab Mike Evans laugh, fitz Gerald, Uh, Hopkins, it's close.
Speaker 4 (59:37):
One is close out of a B and fits. Yeah. Man,
oh Joe, that's this, Oh shoe this yo, this your
expertise here.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
I mean I'll probably go Larry for Gerald, then a
B and who the who the other two d harp
and Mike Evans, Mike Evans and then d Hot.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Y'all heard it from the wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Extraordinary damn spells, said, coach got secondary that can compete
any passing unit in the AFC. The move to get
sauce was help stop Pat and Josh. Yeah they can.
But that defense is gonna mean a thing. If you
turn the ball over six times.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Yeah, well listen.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
And the funny thing about it, too, Uncle Joe, you
think about it. The goddamn coach turned us turned the
ball over six times. And only lost by seven, only
lost by seven. So you take you take away two,
maybe three of those turnovers, they probably still win the game.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
You're right, Yeah, Tino David said, disappointed in my Chiefs
not getting Breeze Hall, Yep, I'm just I mean, I'm
not disappointed. I'm a Bronco fan and wanting to have
as little help as possible. Philly Talk with Pahr. Roseman
said multiple times, AJ wasn't going anywhere. I understand though
you needue clicks, find it funny. Media only try to
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bring down Philly players love the show, No, he say,
wasn't trading Now we'll have to start with, Oh you
think it's gonna go away to Joe?
Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Can you tell Philly talking?
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
I don't, I don't. I don't think fans understand how
the business works. Huh they don't.
Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
They they're so caught they're so caught up, like in
right now, what's going on. They don't understand how the
business side of things work and how owners and those
and positions that call the shots.
Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
They don't understand how they think.
Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Sheldon Pope alright, so can coach cal discover and develop
the next NBA start Arkansas Like he did at previous
stops Memphis and Kentucky. Well, y'all see the talent we
got down there in Arkansas. Hey, yeah, we we ranked fourteen,
but we got some. We got to due forms. But
that money play it off, that chicken money paying off
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Joe hello, Hello.
Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
But we got some. We got some.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
We got some nice freshmen, uh Davis A. Cuff and
the Malik Thomas. Those freshmen have been you know, told
the the scoring low. But we don't just got the
freshman and we got some other guys that's you know,
been around the block and know what it takes to win.
Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
And you know Kyle's gonna get the talent down there.
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Now, we just gotta put together and see if we
can bring another national championship down we overdo it. You're
the new You're a new Joorge Castile said, oh yo,
you're a new GM. Who you taking PS two or Sante.
Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Samuel saying your junior or PS? I mean which one?
Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
The senior?
Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Oh ship, Well that's a good one, that boy.
Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
It is, because senior was really good.
Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Very Hey they god damn senior gonna go ass seven
and put them heels in the ground, And dare you
I dare you, he ain't even gotta be in your face.
Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
I dare a thought that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Hey, listen, I'm gonna go with to Sante Okay, is
as great as is beach P two is right now.
Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
I'm going with for him to be the size that
he is, six two, six three, and the fluidity in
which he moved on.
Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
You can stab left, he can stab right, flipp is
him drop dry?
Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
I mean you probably gotta go. I'm talking about big corner,
Mike Haynes. That was before your type, before my times.
But I remember Mike to see a big corner like
that long rangye that had that kind of technique.
Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Adam Lewis was a tall corner similar similar to Bobby Taylor.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Yeah, Bobby more fluidan Bobby, Yeah, Bobby. Bobby was physical. Yeah,
but the the the grace and the ease and the
fluidness in which man that Jo portray in motion. O
Joe you hey, you watched that, Joey, You watched that
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Joe heat to sit there, go ahead and do what
you're gonna do now.
Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
And he not he not budgeting, he not buzzing into you.
Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Go.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Okay, look, bro, you doing all this now, you do
realize I know you're doing all this dancing this line.
You ain't going deep right, So I ain't getting about
this backund I just want you to know, Philip turn up.
Why the media make it like Sauce washed up? He
just got to a Super Bowl contender. Watch how he
about to turn up and ward coming back. I bet
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if the chiefs of the Bills had made the trade
for Sauce, they would have been praised for it. The
Coats just not the team they're promoting. I'm not so
sure one of those teams would have given up what
they gave, but the coach gave up. I get why
the Coats did it. Bro you do understand. Let me
ask you this, Philip, you think the Broncos will take
two ones for Pats or ten a second? Hell nah?
Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
You think you think the Texans giving up Stingley Jr.
Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
So you you keep talking about that, but you have
to ask yourself in the midd little the season after
they just paid this man one hundred and twenty million dollars.
You're not asking yourself the right question. You're talking about
why ain't know how to hype it up and everybody
has done this because people looking at what.
Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
Damn, I'll give it a befence. What what?
Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
What did the coach know that we don't? What did
the Jets know that we don't? They the one that
signed him. You gave me a young corner either what?
Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Two three times Pro Bowl player and the team is
willing to get get off you four months after they
gave you that. Guess what? That's what.
Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
That's the thing I love about sports. You get to
prove it, don't Joe? Yeah, every single week you get
to prove it.
Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
And maybe you're right, Philip, Maybe being in a different environment,
being on a team that's winning, maybe that reignites him. Man,
it's hardest, man, it's hard to stay positive when you
getting your eyes beat out every DAYMN week.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Matter of fact, and speaking of speaking of proven it,
there's a very very big game that the Coast are
playing this Sunday.
Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
I forgot who. I forgot who they're playing. But it's
a very good game. God, damn it, I don't know.
Damn it. The coach got a good game this Sunday.
Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
Man, what's up, oh Joe? Question? Uh if Ocho was
on your Broncos team?
Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Back in the day, would you guys still good along
with coach Shanahan, like, oh.
Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Oh will be blocking?
Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Blocking who that corner?
Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
That safety? You know, in the West Coast system, you
gotta get debo look at Jenny's. You can't.
Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
You can't play in that system because that's the only
way to running backs go have success because you're trying
to turn ten fifteen yard routes into forty fifty yard
touchdowns and sometimes you have to knock DB's. You have
to look at t Yo. People don't realize how to
do the blocking. T Yo was KOI fifty yard downfield blocking.
Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
A t get a handle you boy, you ain't going.
Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Uh yeah, I had your right. I had your right
to had some jewelry. O. Your have already been in
the Hall of Fame. You probably had to put some
nucide in the head. But you have h yeah, yeah, yeah,
cause you don't come in here. You know, the Miami
boy didn't come in there with a bull drive man.
Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
You know what, I like it the way it is.
I like, I like it's cool. It's cool.
Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Uh no, chill, will do you think do you guys
think a d gets injured more from basketball or from
celebrating out a good game, all right, No, I think
he came in he came. He came into camp a
little weight man. And yeah, if you use training camp
to get in shape, you you're gonna have to. You're
gonna deal with some soft tissue injuries. Yeah, because your
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body used to carry that. Hey, look Ojo in basketball,
if you don't enjoy running right, the game ain't gonna
be fun to you.
Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
It's gonna you're gonna deal with a lot of injuries,
and that's gonna take the love away.
Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
So I tail cats. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
You know my son in college, you got, he got.
He got his homeboys to get on the phone. How
can they improve their game? Be in elite shape?
Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Right? Two? Three miles?
Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Yeah, listen.
Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I offer everybody my services, regardless to sports you play,
to prevent sautage injuries, to prevent injuries in general.
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At
After the Jets debt dealt Saut's gardener, Quinny Williams, many
assumed the franchise would also deal Breese Hall. The Chiefs
reportedly offered the Jets a fourth round pick for Hall,
but New York wanted at least a third rounder and
turned it down. Oh, Joe, can you imagine what the
Chiefs offense would have looked like with Brees Hall as
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it's running back?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey, listen, brins Hall at running back. You got kareem hump,
you got the checko. I think if if the bree
Hall trade would have went through, somebody in that backfield
would have been going.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Somebody in that backfield would have been going.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
But the kind of speed that bris Hall has and
being the change the dynamic of that offense, you know,
especially with play action, Hey, that would have been nice.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I know, I know Brine upset.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I know he mad than was I know he mad
he got Hey, I can see he I saw a
little post, Joey said, breaking news, bress Hall court at
the airport and Saut gardener locker trying to get out
of trying to get out of New York. It was
so funny, It was so funny.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
But they are right. Now, Hey, it gotta hurt, It
gotta hurt.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm leaving that team. Hold on, I'm leaving that team.
And I know what the Chiefs represents. Yeah, their record
is not the greatest, but they still got Patrick Mahomes,
they still got Travis Kelsey, they still got those weapons.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
And they have Andy Reid.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Mmm.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I'm surprised they didn't make it a fourth.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Say okay, we'll give you fourth, but we'll make it
contingent we win the division or we make the playoffs
or something like that, it converts into a third.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I was surprised that they just said no.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
But hey, Brent Beach is hard to argue against him
and Andy what they've been able to do. They seem
to always push the right buttons. Remember they went and
got Kareem Hunt, brought him back. Remember Joe, they brought
uh huh Nicole Harmon. They brought him back and what
did he do? Catch the game? When a touchdown in
the Super Bowl. So it's hard to argue Joe that
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when the Chiefs do something like you, it's hard to
find fault. But hey, because Pacheco's gonna be out, o Joe,
He's gonna probably be out like two three weeks, maybe
a month.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, and you know what, the fact, I think obviously
the Kannassey Chiefs they value they value breist Hall in
a sense, but don't value him enough for a third.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
They don't they value picks more.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah mm hmm, especially from a team that knows how
to draft.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And the plug where is he is he on the
final year of his contract because you know you because
the thing is, oh, Joe, you don't want to have
to bring a guy in and then he's a rental
And I gave him a third year. I gave him
a third round pick for a rental. Right, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna want to sign him. So it's
been interesting to see. But I definitely think he could have.
(02:54):
Excuse me, I definitely think he could have. He could
have helped the Chiefs as the running game of you know,
but Checko's gonna be out. We'll see what Kareem Hunt.
Kareem Hunt is not really a every down back. He's
a short yardist. He's a short yardage back thirty one,
fourth and one. He can catch the ball a little bit.
I mean he block a little bit, but man bridges
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Hall would have definitely helped football fans who miss Sebastian
Janakowski have a new guy to watch. Rams announced they've
sided kicker Harrison Mavis to their practice squad. Dubbed the
Thicker Kicker, he's five eleven, two hundred and forty three pounds.
The move comes after Joshua Cardi, Los Angeles regular starter,
is ten of fifteen on field goals in twenty three
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of twenty six on extra points.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
O Joe, what's you thinking?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I mean, listen, that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
When it comes down to kicking on games are won
and lost on your leg, so therefore you have to
be damn near perfect. If you are kicker in the
NFL and they brought in someone he.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Played with not XFL. Did I say that right? He's
coming from from somewhere.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Now, Wasn't he.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Is? Uh?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Mexico? Is he's They signed a couple of players each
year from Mexico and put him on the practice squad.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I'm not sure, I mean, would better shoo the answer
that one, But I know, if I'm not mistaken, the
person that they did sign is coming from somewhere where
I think he missed one kick all season long. So
this is something that they do that they do need
because I mean, you know, the kicking position is very important.
Despite that you only had.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
The second kicker this year. You remember they had young
way co Yeah he yeah, yeah, they brought this other
guy in. He missed the p A t.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, they got to be.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
They don't play because it's too important. It's to the
kicking position is too important, especially when it comes to
close games and games that decided on kicks that you make.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
So this is tough. They need to bring me in
the kick.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Hey that boy Aubrey got a foot on him.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Boy, hey he got you saw Will I mean, what's
the name Will Caim Will Will Cam hit that sixty
eight yarder, Cam Little, him little, okay, Cam Little, and
then Aubrey had a chance to tie it. Yeah yeah
he missed. He missed it though, but he got a leg.
But hey, Joe, yeah, hey, that.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
That's why I thought would break the record, O Joe,
I thought, I thought all the Dallas kicker, Oh yeah,
because he's indoors mmmm and at the end of the
half something like that. You let m Cam Little kick
the seventy yard in preseason this year?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Real, Yeah, yeah, mister Steve.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
But do you know how a joe, You know how
hard it is to kick seventy and be accurate from
that god damn far out.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
You can't get no height on the ball. So you
got you got the kicker.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Be accurate, and then you got to worry about the
defensive line jumping up and blocking it because you can't
put too much height on it because you won't be
able to get it out that god damn far And
you got.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
To worry about you missing it in the back because
you ain't gotten hing. You got two guys that really
make the tackle. Those are the wing guys, and those
guys don't make the tackle. Guess what House called. He's
undrafted out of Missouri in twenty twenty four. Oh Joe,
he played in the UFL.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
That's what I meant to say. UFL Yeah, NFL.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Five eleven, two forty three Bill running back game, Yeah, yeah, Joe.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
This.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Lebron James will not be traveling for the team's upcoming
five game road trips starting Saturday, as he covered as
he recovers from side atica on his right side, according
to Shams. Shamps also reported that next step from Lebron
and his rehab is five on five live play, which
cut which could come against the G League players, or
when he returned. When Los Angeles returned from the road
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trip on November sixteenth. Lakers personnel are still operating under
the belief Lebron would debut will come around mid November. Hey, love, Joe,
what you're thinking? I'm I like what the Lakers been doing.
I want to give some I want to give a
shout out to my young boy, Nick Smith Jr. Over there,
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you know, for the l Yeah, yeah, yeah, he from
the crib from a little Rock.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Hey. Look look and they got ar over there who
from Arkansas too?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
So them boys getting down or what that man Ozart.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Austin Reeds from where he from Arkansas?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's probably that's probably like that's probably an hour and
a half from Little Rock. Chill out, listen, like, oh, Joe,
we ain't got but a few players in the league,
so we all got to stick together. You're right for
our roof for him, my roof for all of them.
But man, I've been hearing this about that they don't
need Lebron. This man, if y'all playing, if the Lakers
playing on going far, you're gonna need the king, man,
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you're gonna need him. It's good that these guys are
getting out here and they're playing great, but when Lebron
gets back on the floor, they're gonna need to keep
that same confidence and effort that they have. But if
they playing I'm going far man, they gonna need Lebron
to come in and do something.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
And I was gonna say the funny thing is, as
well as they're planning now offensively with Lebron coming back,
he still fits that dynamic right so the floor the
offense still continues.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, hen't go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, No, go ahead,
I gonna let you finish.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
We want them guys to continue to have the confidence
that they're playing with right now, you know what I mean,
Like without Lebron on with Lebron on the floor, yeah,
maybe it is a little different. Maybe you know, uh,
it's a lot more pressure. But with him not being
on the floor, you need the I love the confidence
that these guys are playing with. They just have to
keep it up when he does come back. You know,
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they can't defer to him too much, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Right, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I think the thing here for me, Joe is that
this helps with the depth because the problem that the
Lakers always had was depth, is that what happens when
Lebron and Luca's not on the floor, or what happens
when those guys are off the floor.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Now we can see that.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Now Lebron or Luca or Austin Reeves will always be
on the floor, so they'll always have somebody that can
initiate the offense. Whereas before you're like, damn, you had
to play Lebron here you're damn near thirty nine, forty
years old and you.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Got to play in forty minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Guy's party that old an't supposed to be playing those
kind of minutes. Luca wearing down, and so now you
got Ruid that's playing really well. You got uh, the
guy they got from Memphis that's playing really well. The
other night, you remember they uh what's the what's his name? Uh?
(09:40):
He was La Rabbia La and he been bawling. Yes,
it's been going under the radar because aar been playing
so great when Luca hadn't been playing. But uh, he's been,
he's been amazing for them. Yep, and you get you
mentioned you mentioned a Bryce Rice came in and gave him.
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What did you give him, Anthern, He gave him six assists? Yeah,
BRINNI brought it, broughd it, yeah, Brodynie. So what that
does is that it's gonna give them confidence that they
can like, man, we can do this. We can do
this now. Look, you know what the expectation then I
think sometimes like when Lebron is not there and like
Luca wasn't there, it's a situation where like, man, the
(10:26):
ain't nobody expecting anything of us, but they know where
Lebron is there and therefore they know where the expectations are.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, And it's really that simple. Yeah,
it's it's championship a bus and that's it for me.
When you look at DeAndre Aiden, he's probably gonna benefit
the most out of Lebron not playing right now because
he's playing at at at a great level right now.
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They've given him a lot of lives, a lot of yes,
little chippies right there at the rim, and he's been
playing great.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So I think it's only that's what Luca need.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
If you notice Lucas at his best when he got
a lot, yes sir, when he had Lively, when he
had PJ.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Washington when he had what's the other guy named.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Uh Gaffert gafferd You see, they went to the NBA
finals once they got PJ. Washington and they got Gaffer.
He needs a love threat. As long as he got
a love threat because he gonna get to the rim.
And now when you you least expected heat, listen DeAndre Ayton.
There's no reason DeAndre Aiden shouldn't average fourteen, fourteen, ten
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and five when you're talking about winning Lebron and without
Lebron with both of those guys, because he's a lob threat.
So you got to pay attention to those guys. Look
at blue Box how many point Look at what zoo
Box average last year and Master went up with lobs
and putbacks. You know they run, they run it because
they're not gonna run offense for DeAndre Aiden, just like
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they don't run offense for zoo Box. Whatever you get,
you get a lob, you get an offensive rebound, and
dug it back home.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
That's how you're gonna get your points.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
DeAndre Aiden's gonna get his points to the same way,
the same way the DeAndre Jordan. DeAndre Jordan became an
All NBA selection with nuther lobs and putbacksm running rim running. Yeah,
that's it. But I think, uh, I think Aiden he
has a lot more to his game as far as
shooting a fifteen foot of shoot. He can shoot the three.
They just don't want him to rely on it, you
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know what I mean. But let me tell you something.
When Luca came back, I know he a bad boy,
uncle Ojo, but man, what that boy doing out there
is unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Man, I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Luca, like you know, a aar was playing amazing. Luca
came back, boy dropped forty something I ain't But again,
it so easy because the problem. The thing is Joe,
that joker. I ain't never seen nobody that can get
hot like Luca. Luca can have a twenty twenty five
point quarter like nothing. You look up, he doesn't drop
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four to three. He done got two and one and
then it got two layups.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
He got that. What the hell?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Ye Hey, he's slow stepping the boys out there, Hey, Ojoe,
he ain't moving fast, O Joe.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
It don't it don't look Joe, and it looks it
looks like it's in a slow motion. But everything you do, work, Joe,
every day, move work.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
It's angles, bro, it's angles. It's the way he takes
angles and his brakes. He can stop on the dive
and then hit you with that step back.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
He just he.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Got, he got a lot in his arsenal man. It's
it's fun to watch the fake.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Hey, Joe.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
He and then when you don't jump, he a little
push shot and hey, and then he gets you up
in there. Dd he jumps into you and then kisses
off the glass like man, there's some bulls. Hey, and
he got he got some range too, because he's shooting
two three feet out beyond the three Yes, on a
step back.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah, that's tough. You know, you know, you know they're playing.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
They're playing right now.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah, they're playing San Antonio playing Wimby. Uh. Luca got
seventeen six and seven.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It's no he got damn.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
It ain't even have today, Joe.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
We've been keeping up with the latest on Joe and Nightcap.
Fans have been dying to know what your thoughts on
the situation. What's going on with y'all? They suspended job
job for conduct detrimental. They played the Lakers. They had
a big lead, ar and Luca go crazy in the
second half and they rake a fifteen point lead. The
Lakers end up having at one point, I think a
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thirteen fourteen point lead. They ended up winning comfortably, but
Joe was I guess Joab was critical that they asked
Joh why didn't he play? And job was like after
coach blah blah blah, and then they asked him something else.
He'd say, well, the coach probably thought it'd be a
good that probably helped him win.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
If I was on the bench, So what are.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Your thoughts about what's going on with Joh and Memphis?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Man?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You if I could tell jos something, you just you
gotta watch what you say. You gotta watch your attitude.
You gotta watch how you care itself. You know, because
I ain't gonna lie Ocha. I'm watching the game in
the last seven minutes of the game, I'm like, what
is he doing? He just passing the ball going to
the corner. He was very nonchalant, and it just looked
like he didn't care, you know what I mean, as
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a guy who ultimately could have been like the face
of the league, has a top five signature shoe like
to whom much is giving, man, much is required, you
know what I mean? So whatever the I know, they
got a new coach in and he's implementing the system
that's pretty much taking the ball out of Gian's hands.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
And I think I don't really think.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
He care too much for that, you know what I mean,
because he's been rocking with the rock the whole time,
making plays, doing what he do. And now they got
this other coach who's like almost similar to like Phil
Jackson when he came to Chicago.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
He took the ball out of MJ. Haynes.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
We're gonna run this triangle. It's gonna benefit the whole
team now. You know, it may take down some of
your stats, but collectively as a team, we're gonna be better.
I think it's kind of similar to that situation. But man,
just watch your attitude, bro, Like like everybody's watching Uncle
O Joe. You know, look, you can't just are you
can't just be in your feelings about what Memphis is
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doing when you got thirty one other teams watching and
trying to see, Okay, do we think Jock can fit
in our system?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Because you know, ultimately that's what you're doing. Bro. You
still trying out for other teams.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But I think I don't know maybe maybe it's time
for him to move on because it don't look like
I think so.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, Joe, Hey, Joe, he need to change the scenery. Joe,
I don't know what else you need to see. I
don't know what else you need to see. Uncle, I'm
not sure what else you need to see. And you
say he needs to worry about some of the things
that he's doing it. You know, his mannerrhism, the way
he carry himself.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
He fed up.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
He tired, Joe, sometimes you get tired. Where the Memphis
Grizzlies going? Where are they going? Do they have a chance?
Are they going to winning?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
With y'all? Do they have a chance to compete for
an NBA championship while yoall's there? Probably not the chance?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Probably not if he played, If he played, if he
plays at a level of what we know Jack can
play at that megastar level, right, I think anything is
possible for the Grizzlies. But the way he's playing now, Nah, No,
he don't. He pouted. It was something, it was something
that was going on.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
He pouted.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
It was that situation. What was that that Game seven
that Kobe had where he just passed the ball? Oh, y'all,
think I'm gunning the ball too much. I'm gonna show
you win. And he went and stood in the corner.
And that's kind of what yoah did. And do Joe,
you say John's fed up. They kind of fed up
with John. They're not going to have that long leash
that they've had in the past. I think I think
he really like Taylor Jenkins. Taylor Jenkins, let y'all have
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the ball. But as you mentioned, Joe, this guy here
and y'all look at that shape. Man, I want to
have I want to pound the ball like shape. Don't
nobody be saying nothing about shape, you know. Uh, the
way they the Warriors play, they play hot potato, the
bottle stick.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody pounding the ball.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Hey, Joe, I told you, I told you know, there's
a good chance you know, Uh, I heard Toronto was
keeping an eye on the Josh situation.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I talked to pat Riley and Mickey Erison. You know,
they keep an eye.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
On the situation, you know, to get to get job
to come over here in a in a more structured
and more disciplined environment.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I think he'll be happy here down in Miami.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oo oo oo explained to him, Joe, with with all
the ballet dancing y'all got going on down there in Miami.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Uhh, that's called Are you talking about adult ballet?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, hello, there we go. And you know Pat don't
play all that man.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, he run a real tight ship.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
That's a good thing. That's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
It depends if you're gonna buy in. It's a good thing.
But if it ain't no good.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Thing, Joe, everybody in the NBA, even I know about
pat Riley, you know, but you got to understand he
rules with an iron fists.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Do what you need to do in.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Court when it comes to taking care of venice, and
then you can enjoy yourself outside of that.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
It gives your chance to read.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
He don't really let you do that, not Miami.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's oto oo Hey, Ojoe, Pat got he got he
got people all over miamih.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, he gonna know everything.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
He gonna know everything you're doing.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So when you think you're sneaking out and doing this
and that, are yeah, yeah, they already know. They already know.
They already know.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'm just trying to I'm just trying to get make
my team better, man, so we can come.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Out hey, hey, But but what I do want to
ask you, uh, I want you to uh. When I
when I look at John I watch him play, I wonder,
I wonder how much does.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
He take the weight room serious?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You know, because with that frame he has, uh, and
the way he play above the rim man the floor.
I watching him several times when he played the Lakers. Yeah,
and I know, I know in football it's manatory for
y'all to lift weight.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And basketball, listen, you cannot make it through an eighty
two game season without being in love with that weight room.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Bro. You have to be in that weight room.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And when I watch him play, he got that then frame,
and he's so uh. He has so many great attributes
that I don't know if he really taking the weight
room serious?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You know, you know it's funny, Joe, now that you
say that, I think, as as small as he is,
as wiry as he is, I think if he did
take the weight room seriously. But we don't know if
he does or not. But there's only so much weight
he can put on because his frame is so small.
You don't want to get too big, you don't want
to get too boken.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But it's a ways about taking those those falls. It's
about taking that content. Look at Steph Curry and didn't
look at Steph Curry. Now you can see how his body.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah transition there, the transition over the years. Okay, yeah, yeah,
he got Steph got some nice cuts.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
What I'm saying is Jah has that body to where
he can be really cut up and lean and uh,
I just don't know, man, I don't.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Know if he takes the weight room serious.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I think that's probably first off, you know, that's that's
one thing he has to do. Man, you gotta take
care of the body, bro. You got to because it'll
take kill you and you need some paddy. I mean
I stayed sore because I stayed lean. Yeah, I mean,
I mean, hey, man, hey, you hit me like that
that Joe, and I'm I'm so for I'm I mean
I hurt. I hurt so bad because I was leaning.
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I played it like five and a half six percent body.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Fact. Yeah, I played a two percent body fat.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's a that's a gladiator sport though, with y'all playing man, Joe, hey,
just listen, I command y'all bro, like that's look. I
never played football, but I you know, I man, that's Oh,
you gotta have.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
A little screw loose, Joe.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You gotta have a little screw loose for everybody. I know, Hey,
for everybody. You're right, you gotta have a little screw Joe.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Hey, Joe, I would I was crazy at that, Joe.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah, hold hold.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Up, Oh Joe, y'all used to be off the man.
Y'all used to be off from ads and towns for
the game.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
With smelling saw Joe smelling salt, smelling salt.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I ain't take no smell of sauce. Right before I
took tyler all, I ain't take to the toilet doll.
I take three table doll and I had. They had
my locker. I had six table doll and. Then I
had I had three five packs of Big Red. So
that was the Big Red. Was my mouthpiece? Shoeing going
with my mouth beeaece because I didn't play with a mouthpiece.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Joe, Oh you didn't want me.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I ain't hey, Joe, Hey, Joe, you know I you know,
I had a mouthful of goals. I had a mouthful
of goals, right. I ain't play with a mouthpiece because
I need to be able to talk. I talk and
I want to make sure you hear me. But before
the game, Joe, I take the smelling sau right. I
opened the pack, put the smell of sauce on my
hand right here, Yeah, put it, put it on the line,
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smelling saw Joe.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
For the game.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I was like, hey, y'all was crazy black.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
What's the little thing that they break? And then that's
that's the smelling sauce capsule, that's the smelling saung.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I used to open mind no why you opened the
whole capsule and put it and put it on.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
My hand, you know, like it like it like it
was that stuff I know.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, hey, Joe, I'm telling you what I used to do,
Joe to getting myself ready for the game.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
That stuff is. Listen. They used to put it in
a cup.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
They used to break it, put it in a cup
and yeah, man.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Yeah they got they got the capsule, they got the sticks.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Now, o Joe, that's a stick and you bring it
just popped the top off, yeah and put it back.
Oh yeah, but hey that's gonna make you hey, you
get it too much, you know, and make your hands
pass out.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah that I needed that before the game, Joe. I
need I need to be wired.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Hey, we had a guy that did he he saw
everybody else doing it, Joe and Joe, you know, he
a man.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Let me get somebody.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
And you know you're supposed to just like like, yeah, one, listen,
roll there. That stuff ain't nothing to play with. Hell,
But uh, I think is gonna come to it end, Joe.
I'm gonna be honest with you. And I think I
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think Joe John's time in Memphis gonna come to an end.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I do too that. I think it's gonna be sooner
than later. I agree, And I.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And but where them if we had to take a
few guesses, where y'all think he's gonna be. The Kings
need a point guard. They just gave up d Aaron Fox.
They need a point guard over there with Schroeder in
Westbrook are obviously you're gonna have to trade one up now.
I don't Yeah, I don't want to see him over there. Hey,
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but you got de Rosa and you got Levine over there. Yeah,
but I don't want to see him now, h I
do like, no, listen, I wouldn't mind seeing him playing
next to ant Man.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Now, hey boy, you ate Joe, you cook it Joe.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Colly, ain't going back. Curley don't want to go back
to Memphis. J cooking. It ain't nobout what do you want.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
It at? Y'all go ahead and cook Joe.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Hey, hey, look, uh, if if Minnesota can pull that off,
because in the playoffs, you know, and man kind of
wore down, he need another guy who can take charge
a game. Yeah, I think that'll be a decent fit.
I don't mind seeing him in Miami.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
But you know, okay, okay, Joe, you're cooking at night.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Joe.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
It's just it's just a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And you see, you see God Bear go Bear ain't
did nothing since he played the Lakers in the playoffs
last year. You had twenty seven and twenty it ain't
had twenty seven. Ain't had twenty seven points since then
in all the games.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Hey, uh, Miami Heat organization, all the powers that be
are probably going to see this.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
They watched the show. They are friends of the show. Uh.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
They let me know.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
When I went to the NBA Young.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Boy concert, which was held with the Heat play in
the arena, everyone told me to tell you hello, unc.
I'm just bringing that up because now we talk about
the Miami Heat. So now you know the officials that
work there, I know they do see the show.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
So therefore you heard what Joe said.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I think personally, Miami would be a good place for
John Moran to come to because of the environment, because
of pat Riley and the fact that he rules with
the iron fist. It would be a good fit for
him because you already know when you come here, we
don't play no games.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I'm gonna make sure.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I'm gonna make sure Jo's good outside of that destructured environment.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Of the NBA.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
He's going to be a great representation for the NBA
shield and and and being here in Miami. He gonna
be alright because he's in good hands with me. What
do I like to do, Joe? What do I like
to do? What's one thing I never do? I never
put myself? Were you fifty huh, y'all twenty five?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
You think I can hold on to stay with me?
Real quick? You think John come to Miami.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I can't get y'all to sit nine hours a day
with me smoking a cigar, hold on playing a video
game all day, eight nine hours.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
We no need We won't need him sitting smoking those cigs,
playing video games all day I'm saying, I want to
I really want to see him in the Eastern Conference
because I just feel like the West so thick. I
think he if he goes to the East, it'll kind
of balance things out, because right now, when you look
at the Eastern Conference, I ain't looking at nobody but
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New York and Cleveland. Probably who's gonna come out of
the East. I agree, So you send it. You send
him over there in the Eastern Conference to Miami. I
think they got a fighting chance.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Joe, you cooking the night where you the west?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Low?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Joe's your cash? Let me see your goddamn money. What
you My dog.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Tonight said two hundred, I'll see you two hundred.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
All right, I'm gon shoot it, see you two nd
I'm shoot oh Joe, Joe Jaylen Brown strikes again. He
had he had that Beijing Uh and uh it got
over rookies, Keishawn, George Tonight.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Can you see it? Can you see it on your USh?
I can see it? Stroll up.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
We guess what what do you look at that? I
tried to figure out what happened to that man hair?
He had twists at one point? What that man had
a high time fade twist. Yeah, hold on, so that
was a man that wasn't he here?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I would taking ready to say that maybe it was
maybe it was a unit.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
There wasn't no unit.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
You don't think so, No man, Yo, ain't no way
you lose all your hair in a mass two years?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
It's two yeah, two years, that's a possible, Joe. You
remember he had a hot top and then he had twists.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
He had not Hey, look look, it's just like God
cuts your hair, God cut his hair. It's time when
it was a gradual process, Joe, not over two years
you talk about you talk about me?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, God tout your hair.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You don't under saying I can. I can grow a
full a full head of hair, Joe. I showed unk
before ire to be on the show.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
You ain't show up man like you ain't gonna get
me sending to have me send my soulder heir li
for you.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
No, No, Joe, Hey, Joe, listen, Joe, stay with me
real quick, Joe, I can grow a full head of hair.
The problem is when it comes to having hair. With
hair comes maintenance. With maintenance comes having to buy supplies
to support said maintenance. What does that do that costs
more money. How do I eliminate expenses by not having
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no goddamn hair?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Joe, the hair on his head is just like the
hair on his face. That thing's blotchy. We got here.
You gotta pantch over there.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
He looked like, No, I'm telling you that there are
many pitchers of me with a with a full head
of hair.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I thought, I can see you. Look on the side, Yeah,
your hair grow. But on the thing, that thing smooth
and shiny at the top, hair growing there.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You acting like I'm Caucasian.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
No, that thing got a shave. That thing got shaved.
No grass going in the shade.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna grow it out. I'm
gonna grow it out.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
But I need y'all to tell me how how JV
did this? How did he go that? He had to
that joker had the kid? Yeah he had the kid.
Fade hot he did he didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I don't know, but I'm I'm gonna start blaming his
barbecue for putting his dry erace and stuff on his head.
But you know you gotta go out there and play man. Yeah, see,
you gotta get that what you called. You gotta have
that rents, so you can't put that spray on there
because you start sweating.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
You see the more.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Baptists, the Baptist miders than the Pentecostal middles. They get
up there, that thing coming down, all the dripping. Yeah,
hey you got a pound? They come up, Hey, how
you do her brother shop? They give me the pound
my suit? But JB, come on, JB, Hey, you gotta
let that go, JB, because he right down. He had
called Lebron to about Lebron, how I do hey? Lebron said,
(30:40):
I can't. Hey, hey you see Lebron to let his go.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Lebron.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
You know what, I bought it long as I could.
I fought it till I was party. I'm at feast
with it now. Yeah yeah, hell JB.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
And is twitt is Yeah he probably man Ojo. I
know some dudes.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And I was saying when Ball hited, so it doesn't
matter because he's in his twines now, it do matter
because Joe, you got a three hundred million dollar contract,
You got everything, you can get everything you want except here.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
You better go to Turkey. You go to Turkey and
they're only charged like seven dollars follicle.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
And you know It's funny. Everybody keep going down the
Turkey to get their head done. But how come nobody
in the US understands what they're doing in Turkey and
brings it here.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
So we ain't got to take that long.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
They can't do it. But Joe, oh, Joe.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
They charge seven dollars follicle and the USA charged ten, fifteen,
twenty dollars follicle.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Okay, so you know I meant follicles. Got it? You
got to pull out the back of your head to
get that.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Do you know what the procedure is called?
Speaker 4 (31:45):
And is it painful?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, because they do. They do give you some numb
in medicine because they got to pluck it out. You know,
they number the scaff a little bit joke, but you hey,
they plucking it out at the back and put it
in there. Man, look im, but you don't if you
know anything about hair, This hair is different than the
hair in the back of your hair.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yes, that's why. That's why it looks different.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
And you know what, I won't.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Because Ojo got that beat you back here.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Hold on this, see this would be not gonna do.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
We're not gonna make assumptions about my hair texture when
I got, I got good hair.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
My family I got look at look.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
At hold on.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
This is how you know I got good because their mama? Yeah, mama,
No they no, they mama's got good hair because of me.
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I don't sound right now. I'm just saying, Joe, my
kids long, luscious, beautiful black hair.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
You know that is you.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
You don't got no long, beautiful lushies hair. My daughter
got long hair. Ain't got nothing to do with me.
Her mom got long, her mom hair longer than hairs.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Well, no, my my, everyone, I have kids from they
ball headed son.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
You ball hed it. They got here.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
No see you got see you had I remember when
you were younger, you had police there, roll op park,
anyone in your head.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Hey hey nah, Hey, I'm feeling good, but but I can't.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
But I'm just saying at that point, at that point,
and the thing is he looking at it like, man,
I got a full ass beard, a full beard, and
out my head, ball is calling, Hey man, it happened
like that sometimes. Man, you can't you can't have it all. Yeah,
jab you can't have it all. You want to have
three hundred million dollars you want a beard. You want
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a head full of hair.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Damn you can't. And you know what, I want to try,
uncle Joe.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
What I want?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I want a beard like a like a lace front
beard and a full beard.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
They do that for you, you know how, you know
how in Philly? You know, the beard in Philly is
like a staple, a staple of a Yeah, I won't.
I want a full beard. That'll be o, Joe, Ojoe.
It's cast out here really getting a unit put on
their face man sweater god, yeah, you get that, little man.
You need to put to give your whole little I.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Mean, but I'm talking about to kind of look real, Joe.
I ain't talking about no real.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Hey man, I've been watching they be putting. They be
putting a dreads that looked real.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Hey, hey, I gotta do that for a show. Tell
me where to go, Joe? Do what for a show
like get the get the get the unit with some dreads?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I got it, I got it.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I got a guy out here.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
You bring your hands out here looking like preda if
you want to.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Now, hey, hey, hey, you know hey, come on un
hey Joe, Hey, Joe, where you at Joe?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
He he Here in Atlanta, I got a guy for you.
I got a guy who you know, Joe.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
I'm serious. I'm gonna come on the show with the
whole little look looking like looking.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Like a little getting the beard. O, Joe, you don't
need the dreads, Okay.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I' I'm gonna do the beer. I'm gonna do the beer. Yeah, Hey, Joe, Hey,
hit your boy, tell me let me know how much?
Speaker 4 (34:55):
And I you know that.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Hey, did you know the flight that Atlanta? I said,
it's forty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Man, listen, I'm gonna hit them for you. I'm gonna
have something. Oh yo, don't go on that ladder you Hey,
you want to be in that four hour line going
to ts A?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
You see that?
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah? I saw that.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
What happened? What happened to ts AD?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
They ain't getting paid? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Wait hold on, Oh so they just say forget coming
to work? Yeah? How long the government gonna.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Be like this?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
What you think?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Hey, somebody got to give? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Hey, will they get back paid for the time that's missed.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
No, they're supposed to, but probably not. Damn this this
might be an opportunity for them to like, Hey, we're
gonna go ahead and lay y'all off go ahead, lay
y'all off.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You try. If you're trying to trim the government. What
better way they gonna Hey, look, they're gonna have them
robots in there working in a minute.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Hey, that's that's tough, man, that's tough. I feel.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I feel for people that actually have government jobs and
are having to deal with the issues of it being
shut down right now and see that this are.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Times like now that snap and kneed wick.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Hey, does the president have power to over oversee and
overrule whatever it is that's going on?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I know is that President Trump said when President Obama
had a lockdown that it's on the president. He got
both houses, he got Sentate, and he got the House,
and he got the Supreme Court, and as a Republican president.
So I don't know whatever y'all want to say. All
I know is that we've had the longest shut down
in government history.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
On his watch.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
How long we've been shut down?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (36:34):
How long we've been shut down?
Speaker 4 (36:35):
What damn like thirty almost thirty days?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
We've been shut down a whole month?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Hey, Joe, see this, whity. This is why you need
people like me as president. This is why you need
people like me in positions of power to make some
of the casts. Now you might you might not like
the jokes, you might like, you might not like the entertainment.
But when it comes to making sure the people are good,
that's why I come into play. That's why come in
to play. The American people would not have to suffer.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Hear me ten years ago, Oh Joe, you know what
I remember fifteen twenty years ago that was seen far fetched.
That ain't far fetched anymore, anybody. You don't really have
to have qualifications to be at the whole qualified office.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I'm qualified as one a joe. I can shoot you like.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
You don't have to be that's the point. That's my point, right.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
It used to be that, like, Okay, you ran at
some local level, you ran you know, you ran at
a state level, you ran at some level.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Now you got a name, you can be it.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
You just need Arnold Warzenegger was governor, Clint Eastwood, just
ventured Al Franklin. There's been a lot of people just
that that got in the politics. Just don't name the
President of the United States. He never held public office before,
at no level. So it's not as far fetched. I know,
I know, I think you said the tongue in cheek,
but in actuality it's not as far fetched as.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
You as one would think.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, yeah, as long as you got the right back
in somebody back in you, that's it. Now you got
you gonna be bought and paid for them. You do
realize that, right, You don't run nothing, you don't make
no decisions.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Oh well, listen when it comes to the world and
how the powers that be worked. I know the people
that we can visibly see. I know they don't make
the cost I know they don't pull the streams. I
know the people that pull the streams. I'm not gonna
talk about it, but I know how it works. I
understand that.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
All jokes aside, I know who really?
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Who really history Like.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Day thirty six, we've been shut down to the government
where we the government, the American government has been shut down.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
For thirty six days.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
We we all we all shut down.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, but look, I mean look, and I think the
thing is people are fighting for these benefits, to snap
programs and to try to keep huh the cost of
of of healthcare down. Because you got to realize before
a C eight they call it Obamacare. It's the American
health care situation. You do realize companies could kick you
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off if you have a pre existing condition. Joe, you
got asthma. Now we're not doing sure you. Oh you've
had cancer before. We're not going to assure you.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Now. They can't do that.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
See, you won't have none of these problem with me
in office. They don't have none of these problems with
me in office. I mean, I'm here for the American people, huh.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Talking about to say for the American people till they
get in office.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
American listen, is there anything anything? Is there anything I've
ever said, if that ever said, and then follow through
with it? Think about it.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
You can't, oh Joe, you can't because you can't get
in there without the back of the thathing money.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, I know people.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Can I tell you the people I know that have
the money? Can I speak real quick? Joke?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I have a very a very strong existence down there
in Mexico. Right you know you know brother Carlos Slim, Yeah, yeah,
very good friend of mine.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You need musk hold on, you need to know, you
need to go Larry Ellison, You need to know. Zucker
Bird who you need to know? You you know, Peter Thield,
That's who.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
You need to know. You ain't even let me finish.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Okay, I got heavy hitters in my roller deck just
like that. Maybe not to that magnitude, but I'm talking
about with the bees on the end.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Hu you need no, no, no, no, no, you do.
Really you know how much Elon Musk's worth?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah, I know, like five hundred me being.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah, okay, you know how much? You know how much
Larry Elisen's worth.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, that's my homeboy, Larry Ellis.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
But zucker Bird, Yeah, so you got to get in
people with that, oh Joe. Now, their agenda. They won't deregulations, right,
they won't. They want a system of no checks and balances.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Yeah, talk to me. Okay, No, we ain't gonna talk.
We're gonna move over.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we don't want to make a political show,
that's us.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Clay Thompson has been bitched by the Maths.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
The Angela Russell moved in the kids starting lineup didn't
matter the MAVs law to a Zionist Pelicans Tonight, Claire
has been struggling. He entered tonight shooting thirty one point
eight percent from the field and twenty six percent from
thee this season, while averaging eight points a night.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
He scored eleven points tonight. The Maths are now two
and six.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Luca is averaging more points than Cooper Flag Anthony Davis
combined this season. Man, it's hard when you got a
rookie out there playing point guard. He had no point guard.
And I know that's what I'm trying to say. You
got a rookie out here playing point guard who is
not a point guard. And Clay needs guys around him
who can play mate for him. You know he's not
(41:29):
a guy now that you can just throw him the
ball and get it and go.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
That's not what he is. Nah.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
So when you got you got him surrounded by guys
who really trying to iso get to the cup, and
they trying to get their own. If you just want
to be if you just want me to keep it
one hundred, yes, and he's kind of he's. Look he
looked lost out there, if you ask me, Joe, he does,
because look at who can get in the ball.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
PJ.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Washington, that's not his role. Gafford, that's not his role. Lively,
that's not his role. Cooper Flagg ain't no point guard.
He tried to get his own. The only guy really
that could get in the ball. He was on the bench,
and that's di'angelo Russell. Now Russell's on the court. Now
he's on the bench. So what he should have done?
Speaker 4 (42:11):
And I understand he should have took his ass to
l A and had opportunity to play with Lebron.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
That can fire a shooter in the corner. That's gonna
get you excellent shots, right. I just think what the
unfortunates of you know, Kyrie not being there. You know,
it's it's obviously made his job a lot harder. He
doesn't get the looks they normally get because Kyrie can
play make not only for himself but the guys around him.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
And uh man, yeah, like he just he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
He looks lost out there when I when I watch
him play, I just see a lot of guys trying
to get to the cup going one on one.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
It's not it's not really a system for him, No,
it's not. And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
I mean, I don't know whether Pride or I don't
know if if Golden State what they offered, but he'd
have been better staying in Golden State taking less money.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
They weren't gonna keep him in Golden State, not at
the money that he wanted.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
No, right, so that's an insult to him that he's
the fact that he didn't want what Ford championship four
championship man he.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Like hold on.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
He felt like they probably owed him some back pay
and the fact that they ain't want to pay him.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
He probably thinking, But you.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Do really realize there was two years he didn't do
no play because remember he towards a cl and then
he towards he towards Achilles, and they still kept him
thirty million dollars checks coming Joe. Yeah, yeah, I mean hey,
because you gotta realize that Steph step got They owe
st death because they got step on the cheek because
his anchors were so bad. Yeah, so they they owe Steph.
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Step should be able to play till he farted and say,
you know what, I ain't what I was was, but
y'all owe me because there are times I was lighted
it up and y'all paying me chicken feed.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah, hey, they they made up for it though.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Huh No, hell nothing not with Steph. Look at it.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
That's the most expensive franchise in the NBA, eleven billion dollars.
They owe Steph a billion. They old Steph a billion,
Joe lacam and Peter Gruber. They owe Steph a billion
dollars from what he's done for that franchise. Absolutely, because
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they were look Golden State. They have a couple of
years they upset. Who they upset was that the Mavericks,
the agency. They upset the Mavericks. But for the most part,
ain't nobody Steph Curry really put them when they had
run TMC, when they had Mitch Richmond and the Hardaway
and uh.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
And Mullett, Chris Mullet, Chris Good.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
But them guys had retired twenty years ago that Steph,
Steph and Clay and Draymond. So Draymond resparted the Kevin
the ret recent comments saying that offense, not defense, is
the key to winning championships. KD Who's Too Finals MVP,
alongside Greed with the Warriors, recently claimed that elite offenses
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more important the team's success, the more important two team success.
Excuse me, but Draymond pushed back, saying, if anything, it
was like a headscratcher.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
I was like, huh.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
But on the flip side, it wasn't that much of
a head scratcher because I know, Kevin. I think when
you look at any team that has won a championship,
they had great defense. And if you look at most
teams that couldn't quite get over the hump, oftentimes it
was because they couldn't get stops. Those who don't believe
defense is valuable if it's simply they don't win. I
don't think anyone ever really been hell been on caring
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an opinion about those that don't win because of your
opinion equals zero.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
I think linv.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Moth could be true to an extent because when you
get in the playoffs, the game slows down, and the
teams that do have a guy or two who can
go get his own, who can go get a bucket.
That's valuable. That's very valuable. Also, I understand what Draymond saying. Yeah,
you gotta be able to get stops. You gotta be
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able to guard your yard, you gotta you gotta be
able to play defensive, you where you don't have to
give as much help.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
You know what I mean. So let me ask your question.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
If I take Trady off that seventeen eighteen team, the Warriors,
so there's no KD, it's Steph Clay and Draymond and
it's Kyrie Lebron and that staff the Warriors beating them.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Bron got he had two more championships. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, they remember in both game threes what Kevin Durant did.
It was Kevin Durant that hit the shots both games.
That was heard around the world. He was the guy
that could. He couldn't stop Lebron, but he can match
Lebron point for point. Now steph could go point for
point with Kyrie. Now Clay, they really didn't have anybody
that can match up with Clay because that was the difference.
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You wasn't stopping Lebron. Look at Lebron. He averred the
thirty point triple double. But KD KD was going. KD
was the guy that when I needed a bucket, KD
okay one four, KD, go get your thift, go get
what you need. Because guess what, Uncle Ojo, You couldn't
double team in. You couldn't double team KD.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
That was Steph.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Now with Stephana out there, you couldnt double team. So
you have to live with the one on ones and
you have to live with the results. You gotta hope
that man missed and he was unbelievable in them two
finals runs.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
Bro, he get that ball at the nail. You you cooked.
You just got to hope he missed because you got
because you got Clay in one side, you got Steph
on the other. Now, what you're gonna do where you're
gonna bring the double team from He can't. That's why
he was Finals MVP two years in a row. Yes,
you can't.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
You if he post up, he could, he could play
with his back to the basket. He was the only
he could get his shot. No, look, I believe you. Look,
I believe Draymond. Yes, you need defense, Yes, but in
basketball you got that dog. You got a guy that sometimes.
You don't think they try to play defense on Mike.
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You don't think they tried to play defense on Kobe
and Shaq Shack averaging thirty six and eighteen.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
What defense you got to stop that cod? What you
throw it it? Hey?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Look and Kobe was right there with him, mamaging thirty. Yeah,
Shack average in thirty six, Kobe was avage thirty. I'm
talking about in the playoff runs that they was having. Man,
that was just Mike, Mike averaging forty one in the finals.
What you're gonna do with that.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
And the funny thing too, the way the game has changed,
especially basketball, where you play defense. Defense is not the
same as it was back in the day anyway. No,
I mean I always hit the chirps and I always
hit the grumblings about they don't play defense these days,
and so is it really is? Is defense really that
much of a factor in the comes win the NBA
champiship here.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
They' jacking up a whole bunch of damn shots.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, it's it's hey, Look, it's almost like it's like
the NFL they done south of the game and and
made it made it possible for you know, the quarterbacks.
It's the same thing in the NBA. No, you can't
handcheck no more, you know what I mean. Like, it's
it's so many different variables to to enhance the game
and make.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
It it is. You know what's happened? Yeah, what has happened?
Speaker 1 (49:29):
These guys are skilled, so skilled, Yes, and the game
has been taking you know, the physicality. So now it
looks like that man, this got better than Jed Rice,
This got better than random Oss, this got better than
t o. Well, they've taken the physicality out of the game,
and these guys are skilled. Yeah, guys, I mean guys
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are skilled. I mean got you know this thing called evolution.
You know, guys get better at things. They study the
old guys and they add to what those guys could do.
So now you take a Devonte Adams that can run
exquisitely without the physicality, he ain't got to worry about
nobody putting that soup bowing up side his head. Hey, oh, Joe,
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think about last week. How many one hand catches you
saw last week? I saw more one handed catchers in
the first three four weeks of the season is than
I was seeing a whole year in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Hey, Joe, you had to think.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
You had to think twice that way, Joe, you had
to think twice during our day about going across that middle.
Forget one hand, just having an understanding of where everybody's
coming from before the snap of the ball, so you
knew exactly where it was coming from. Joe, I'm telling you,
as reckless as I played, without a care in the world,
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I understood where everybody was coming from.
Speaker 4 (50:46):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
I had to know because they already trying to knock
my head off because I talked shit before the game.
Throughout the week, I talked shit during the game, Joe.
I got to know everything, Joe, what they doing out
there to day and today's game and the way the
NFL is handicapped game where it's it's unbelievable some.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Of the players.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Some of the players are making uh without without caring,
without without worry.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
Without consequences and repercussions with none. Yeah. Hey, look when
I when I first came into the league. Okay, oh Joe,
there wasn't no fives and four shooting threes. It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
No Twyn Walker was the only guy, and he was
a power for he was the only guy shooting threes. Now,
if you can't shoot the three or catch a lot,
you can't play.
Speaker 4 (51:30):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
No, they're no post up. You don't see many guys
post up now. Now, the guys who post up, they're small,
they're guards.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
You know what I mean from like you.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
You know, when I used to watch guys before I
got in the NBA, I shused to love watching obviously,
Michael Jordan, Penny Hardaway, Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady and those
guys post up like your scores post up. Yeah, they
not throwing it down there to DeAndre a No ten twelve,
fifteen times a game.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
It's just not gonna happen, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
So if you can't shoot or catch a line now
in today's game, it's gonna be hard for you to play.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
Brother. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
So I think that that's what's happening. Is that and
these guys are extremely extremely talented, but because of the
phil physicality in both sports has been diluted somewhat, I
think it gives us a false sense. And that's not
taking anything away from these guys, because I do think
they're extremely talented. But man, physicality, boy, you a you
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thought long and hard, you had a There are a
lot of a There are a lot.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
Of prehistoric receivers had the t rex on and the
malligate on. I didn't want that.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
Hell no, boy, you go across the middle with Mike
Singletary and next thing you know, you looking at the
ear You looking at your ear hole cause they I
remember the first time I was retired and I thought
I saw a three step slant route and I was like,
I know that guy, just say run no three steps
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slat rock.
Speaker 4 (53:04):
Boy Joe.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Back in the nineties, the eighties, the nineties, you'd ran
that one time. I guarantee you, they couldn't have paid
you enough money. Runner again, listen, listen they put that.
They put that hilp it right here. Hey, Ojoe, my
rookie year, I played against stopping him alone. Ojo, I fanake.
(53:29):
I seen I seen Malone coming down the middle of
the lane. I was right up on the gold take
a charge. I old laid that joint.
Speaker 4 (53:35):
I let him lay it up.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
I let him let the man came in there with
his knees almost in my face. I said, look, coach
took me right after game, he said, you gotta take
that TI. I'm like, man, no, I don't. I ain't
if you're standing in front, No sir. All right, o Joe, Joe,
it's time to play Fade Play or Fade presented by
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they playing the Raiders? Oh yeah, hell yeah, yeah yeah.
We rather deal with Max Crost because he goes he
gonna be an issue.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Uh, what are they playing? I'm gonna take y'all word
for it, Joe. What are they playing at? They playing
in Denver?
Speaker 3 (54:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yeah, hold on, now's your quarterback and you taking our
word for you don't believe anhim no more?
Speaker 4 (54:46):
Yeah, I believe in it. Okay, Okay, it sounds like
you had some doubt over there.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Yes, yeah, JK. Dobbins more than seventy two yards rushing.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
I don't know about that when that's all you want.
Speaker 4 (55:05):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm a little leared about that Russian
seventy one seventy one. Now you been playing? Oh he's
been playing good. Oh he's been bawling. Oh he was.
I think he top ten in Russian. Yeah, that man
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has had I got him. I got him at Sydney too.
He'll get you out of Sidney two.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Raydon d got a good rud defense, though, I think
what a rates ranked defense?
Speaker 4 (55:39):
Ask? Hey, okay, oh, Jeorge fifteen.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Sixteen, So the middle of the pack we get seventy two,
We should get seventy two.
Speaker 3 (55:59):
As all we need.
Speaker 4 (56:00):
Come on, okay, Gino less than two hundred and thirteen
yards passing?
Speaker 3 (56:08):
Man? They let your Kobe go too, man.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
Yeah, I don't I don't know if Gino's gonna get that.
You're still gonna got rock Bowers.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
You still got brock Bowers.
Speaker 4 (56:17):
Yeah, I'm gonna say no, he's gonna get he gonna
know he going over that you gonna have Yeah, I
don't know this.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
This This is how I got caught up last week
the other day. We might get him though, and we
can put pressure on it. We might get him. We
might sack it by ten times. But second about ten
times though, you know what, I'm would go less. I'm
gonna go lest. We gonna sack it. We're gonna sack it.
We're gonna get his ass. Hey, so we're going we're
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going more and everything ash he said, yeah, yeah, Yo, y'all, Okay,
we're going more and more or less.
Speaker 4 (57:05):
I show hope he ain't.
Speaker 1 (57:06):
Twenty five dollars to win one hundred and fifty dollars
download after day use coach Shannon to get fifty dollars
in lineups. After you play your first five dollars lineup,
it's good to be right, all right, we're gonna get
you out of here on this. When time for our
Found fount segment of the evening, it's time to say
cute hey.
Speaker 4 (57:35):
Ur dyo o yo. You can't say foot or ball?
Speaker 3 (57:41):
I mean why, I mean it's a new week. I
mean obviously you can't say.
Speaker 4 (57:44):
You can't say that until you win.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Hold on, you can't say foot the ball after a
twenty four hour period, that goes out window.
Speaker 4 (57:51):
No put on ball until you win another game.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
Life resets.
Speaker 4 (57:56):
No, it don't. Uh, Hannah said Jalen is three for
three from the hairline.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
Uh uh Old Cardio said, Oh, either the camera's playing
trick or that interimatetent fast and kicked hit real.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
I watched yesterday's showing tune in the day like, hold up,
what happened?
Speaker 2 (58:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (58:26):
What's talking about? I did only eat once today though bad,
But I don't think that it'll have been faster. I
will starting, I got I think I will start. I
will start next week. Cyndergy Energy. How do you feel
about Nick's opinion from the first from the first. First thing? First,
what he had to say about the Broncos?
Speaker 4 (58:46):
What do he say? What did he say? The Broncos
aren't real?
Speaker 1 (58:56):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (58:56):
Yeah, you gotta realize Nick's from Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
He's a He's a Kansas City and it's a great
time to be to be a fan of Kansas City.
But Nick knows, like I know, we used to beat
the breaks off Kansas City. So it's by time y'all
get some payback. But the Broncos gonna be Kansas City
when they come to them. Watch tona g Say ranked
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these receivers one through four over the past ten years.
Ab Mike Evans laugh, fitz Gerald, Uh, Hopkins, it's close.
Speaker 4 (59:37):
One is close out of a B and fits. Yeah. Man,
oh Joe, that's this, Oh shoe this yo, this your
expertise here.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
I mean I'll probably go Larry for Gerald, then a
B and who the who the other two d harp
and Mike Evans, Mike Evans and then d Hot.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Y'all heard it from the wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Extraordinary damn spells, said, coach got secondary that can compete
any passing unit in the AFC. The move to get
sauce was help stop Pat and Josh. Yeah they can.
But that defense is gonna mean a thing. If you
turn the ball over six times.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Yeah, well listen.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
And the funny thing about it, too, Uncle Joe, you
think about it. The goddamn coach turned us turned the
ball over six times. And only lost by seven, only
lost by seven. So you take you take away two,
maybe three of those turnovers, they probably still win the game.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
You're right, Yeah, Tino David said, disappointed in my Chiefs
not getting Breeze Hall, Yep, I'm just I mean, I'm
not disappointed. I'm a Bronco fan and wanting to have
as little help as possible. Philly Talk with Pahr. Roseman
said multiple times, AJ wasn't going anywhere. I understand though
you needue clicks, find it funny. Media only try to
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bring down Philly players love the show, No, he say,
wasn't trading Now we'll have to start with, Oh you
think it's gonna go away to Joe?
Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Can you tell Philly talking?
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
I don't, I don't. I don't think fans understand how
the business works. Huh they don't.
Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
They they're so caught they're so caught up, like in
right now, what's going on. They don't understand how the
business side of things work and how owners and those
and positions that call the shots.
Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
They don't understand how they think.
Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Sheldon Pope alright, so can coach cal discover and develop
the next NBA start Arkansas Like he did at previous
stops Memphis and Kentucky. Well, y'all see the talent we
got down there in Arkansas. Hey, yeah, we we ranked fourteen,
but we got some. We got to due forms. But
that money play it off, that chicken money paying off
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Joe hello, Hello.
Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
But we got some. We got some.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
We got some nice freshmen, uh Davis A. Cuff and
the Malik Thomas. Those freshmen have been you know, told
the the scoring low. But we don't just got the
freshman and we got some other guys that's you know,
been around the block and know what it takes to win.
Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
And you know Kyle's gonna get the talent down there.
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Now, we just gotta put together and see if we
can bring another national championship down we overdo it. You're
the new You're a new Joorge Castile said, oh yo,
you're a new GM. Who you taking PS two or Sante.
Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Samuel saying your junior or PS? I mean which one?
Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
The senior?
Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Oh ship, Well that's a good one, that boy.
Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
It is, because senior was really good.
Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Very Hey they god damn senior gonna go ass seven
and put them heels in the ground, And dare you
I dare you, he ain't even gotta be in your face.
Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
I dare a thought that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Hey, listen, I'm gonna go with to Sante Okay, is
as great as is beach P two is right now.
Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
I'm going with for him to be the size that
he is, six two, six three, and the fluidity in
which he moved on.
Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
You can stab left, he can stab right, flipp is
him drop dry?
Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
I mean you probably gotta go. I'm talking about big corner,
Mike Haynes. That was before your type, before my times.
But I remember Mike to see a big corner like
that long rangye that had that kind of technique.
Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Adam Lewis was a tall corner similar similar to Bobby Taylor.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Yeah, Bobby more fluidan Bobby, Yeah, Bobby. Bobby was physical. Yeah,
but the the the grace and the ease and the
fluidness in which man that Jo portray in motion. O
Joe you hey, you watched that, Joey, You watched that
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Joe heat to sit there, go ahead and do what
you're gonna do now.
Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
And he not he not budgeting, he not buzzing into you.
Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Go.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Okay, look, bro, you doing all this now, you do
realize I know you're doing all this dancing this line.
You ain't going deep right, So I ain't getting about
this backund I just want you to know, Philip turn up.
Why the media make it like Sauce washed up? He
just got to a Super Bowl contender. Watch how he
about to turn up and ward coming back. I bet
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if the chiefs of the Bills had made the trade
for Sauce, they would have been praised for it. The
Coats just not the team they're promoting. I'm not so
sure one of those teams would have given up what
they gave, but the coach gave up. I get why
the Coats did it. Bro you do understand. Let me
ask you this, Philip, you think the Broncos will take
two ones for Pats or ten a second? Hell nah?
Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
You think you think the Texans giving up Stingley Jr.
Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
So you you keep talking about that, but you have
to ask yourself in the midd little the season after
they just paid this man one hundred and twenty million dollars.
You're not asking yourself the right question. You're talking about
why ain't know how to hype it up and everybody
has done this because people looking at what.
Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
Damn, I'll give it a befence. What what?
Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
What did the coach know that we don't? What did
the Jets know that we don't? They the one that
signed him. You gave me a young corner either what?
Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Two three times Pro Bowl player and the team is
willing to get get off you four months after they
gave you that. Guess what? That's what.
Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
That's the thing I love about sports. You get to
prove it, don't Joe? Yeah, every single week you get
to prove it.
Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
And maybe you're right, Philip, Maybe being in a different environment,
being on a team that's winning, maybe that reignites him. Man,
it's hardest, man, it's hard to stay positive when you
getting your eyes beat out every DAYMN week.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Matter of fact, and speaking of speaking of proven it,
there's a very very big game that the Coast are
playing this Sunday.
Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
I forgot who. I forgot who they're playing. But it's
a very good game. God, damn it, I don't know.
Damn it. The coach got a good game this Sunday.
Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
Man, what's up, oh Joe? Question? Uh if Ocho was
on your Broncos team?
Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Back in the day, would you guys still good along
with coach Shanahan, like, oh.
Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Oh will be blocking?
Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Blocking who that corner?
Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
That safety? You know, in the West Coast system, you
gotta get debo look at Jenny's. You can't.
Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
You can't play in that system because that's the only
way to running backs go have success because you're trying
to turn ten fifteen yard routes into forty fifty yard
touchdowns and sometimes you have to knock DB's. You have
to look at t Yo. People don't realize how to
do the blocking. T Yo was KOI fifty yard downfield blocking.
Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
A t get a handle you boy, you ain't going.
Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Uh yeah, I had your right. I had your right
to had some jewelry. O. Your have already been in
the Hall of Fame. You probably had to put some
nucide in the head. But you have h yeah, yeah, yeah,
cause you don't come in here. You know, the Miami
boy didn't come in there with a bull drive man.
Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
You know what, I like it the way it is.
I like, I like it's cool. It's cool.
Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Uh no, chill, will do you think do you guys
think a d gets injured more from basketball or from
celebrating out a good game, all right, No, I think
he came in he came. He came into camp a
little weight man. And yeah, if you use training camp
to get in shape, you you're gonna have to. You're
gonna deal with some soft tissue injuries. Yeah, because your
(01:07:51):
body used to carry that. Hey, look Ojo in basketball,
if you don't enjoy running right, the game ain't gonna
be fun to you.
Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
It's gonna you're gonna deal with a lot of injuries,
and that's gonna take the love away.
Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
So I tail cats. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
You know my son in college, you got, he got.
He got his homeboys to get on the phone. How
can they improve their game? Be in elite shape?
Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Right? Two? Three miles?
Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Yeah, listen.
Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I offer everybody my services, regardless to sports you play,
to prevent sautage injuries, to prevent injuries in general.
Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
I mean, I've done all I can. I let everybody
do it they way.
Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
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