January 17, 2026 • 52 mins
Tot Mom Casey Anthony joins the latest Substack post, which takes Vice President JD Vance to task for his protection of the ICE agents involved in the death of 37-year-old protestor Renee Nicole Good.
Anthony calls the shooting a crime, writing that it should be investigated "as all other officer-involved crimes". She also demands the release of any available body-camera video.
When Anthony first launches her Substack, she claims she has "been in the legal field since 2011." That's an accurate statement if being on trial for her daughter's murder counts as legal experience.
Anthony was acquitted of murder but convicted of lying to police.
Substack is a subscription-based platform for writers and podcasters. Subscriptions to her channel cost $10 per month or $100 annually, with a free tier offering limited content.
The world learned about Casey Anthony when her mother called 911 to report that her granddaughter had been missing for nearly a month and that Casey had just admitted it.
Anthony spun a web of lies, claiming a nanny had taken 2-year-old Caylee and had not returned her. Police and the media got involved, but none of her claims proved true.
On October 14, 2008, a grand jury indicted Anthony on charges of first-degree murder, aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter of a child, and four counts of providing false information to police.
A jury acquitted Anthony of murder, but convicted her on four counts of providing false information to law enforcement.
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Troy Slaten - Los Angeles Criminal Defense Attorney, Slaten Lawyers, APC; X @TroySlaten
- Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive
- Rob Dick - Casey Anthony's Former Bodyguard, Bounty Hunter, and Private Investigator; Former Deputy Sheriff for Sacramento County Sheriff's Dept., and Owner of Renegade Investigations
- Joseph Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author of "Blood Beneath My Feet," and Host of "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan;" X:@JoScottForensic
- Shannon Butler - Investigative Reporter at WFTV Channel 9, Florida
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh my stars, top mom, Casey Anthony, shut your pie hole.
We don't say the S word, which is stupid or
shut up in our home, but just this one time,
shut up woman good cravy as if we want to
(00:30):
hear her preaching about.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Anything, tom Mom.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Casey Anthony made national headlines after she was accused of
murdering her two year old little girl, Kelly, And now
she is preaching, y'all, she is preaching criticizing Vice President
Vance's defense of an ICE officer who shot Renee Nicole
(00:56):
Good in Minneapolis. I'm not our arguing about Ice right now.
I have opinions about what happened. That's not the point.
The point is Casey Anthony, please stop talking. I'm Nancy Grace.
This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for
(01:17):
being with us. As we all sadly know, now talk
Mo'm Casey Anthony has a substack and she communicates on
that substack.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Quote from those of us in the legal world, what woman,
why are you saying you're in the legal world. You
were trying for murder.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You were convicted on a couple of lesser counts. Oh,
from those of us in the legal world. You should
try consulting with someone other than the corrupt Attorney General
of the US to get your information about how our
legal system and our constitution are applied to all citizens,
yourself included. You know what you're not in the legal world.
You were trying for murder and many people, including me,
(02:00):
you're guilty. And you tried to drag your own father,
George Anthony, through the mud, claiming he was responsible. You
let your mother get up on the stand and perjure
herself to save your sorry skin. And now you are preaching.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Girl, get out of the pulpit.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Let's just have a little refresher about top Mom Casey
Anthony's indictment.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Today. It's a three year old team Kelly.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
That brings it back home to the Discovery.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And I went and looked at the spot where Kelly
Anthony's body was bagged in trash bags.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
From top Mom Casey Anthony's home and.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Thrown in a swampy area covered in trash and use tires, just.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Out of a swamp. And that is.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Where Kelly decomposed. This beautiful little girl, the shining light
of her grandparents' eyes in a swamp, decaying.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And now this.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I am a legal advocate, I am a researcher. I've
been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in
this capacity, I feel that it's necessary if I'm going
to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that
I start to advocate for myself and also advocate for
my daughter.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Okay, well, I need to see that again.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
That's from Casey Anthony's officialtok account at Casey Anthony underscore
substec ps. If you don't know what substec means, it
means money to her in her pocket.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I'll explain it. I've got to see this again.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
I am a legal advocate, I am a researcher. I've
been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in
this capacity, I feel that it's necessary if I'm going
to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that
I start to advocate for myself and also advocate.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
For my daughter.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay, that's a top one.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Ksey Anthony's TikTok account at Casey Anthony underscore substec whoa
whoa whoa legal advocate.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
No you're not.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
You were trying for the murder of your little girl.
Legal advocate.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
My rear end. And who did I hear her say
she's been involved. Let me look at this in the
legal system since two thy eleven. You mean when you
were tried for murder? Joining me an all star panel.
But I just want to remind everybody what this is
really about. No one would even know her name if
(04:56):
it weren't for this.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Something wrong. My god, it was car to day and
it's not like this sent a dead body from car.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Okay, what is the three year old's name?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Kaylee? C A Y L E. E. Anthony Hailey Anthony, Yeah, Okay,
she white, black her Hispanics she's white. How long has
she been missing for? I have not seen her since
the seventh of June?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
What is her date of verse.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Eight nine? Two thousand, Oh god, you free? Two thousand
and five? True? Listen, what dreams? Listen?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
That is Cindy Anthony Kelly's grandmother calling reporting her missing.
Not taught mom, her own mother, advocate for my daughter.
Advocate for my daughter, who call nine one one, not
you listen?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Didn't talk a month ago?
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Okay, I mean I understand, Can you just can you
calm down for me for this minute? And I don't
even know what's going on.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Okay, I'm gonna chin.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Advocate for my daughter. Joining me. Joe Scott Morgan.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Or now death investigative professor at Jacksonville State University, author
of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon and star of
Body Bags with Joe Scott Morgan Reality check. You know,
finding out that top Mom is offering a substack. In
other words, you go listen to her and she gets money.
(06:39):
By the way, Joe Scott already just her announcement as
has racked up over.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Three million views. She gets paid for that. If there
are ads in there, all that money.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Is going into her pocket. Harsh reality. No one would
even know her name if she had not been charged
with murdering her daughter.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Tell me what happened to Kelly.
Speaker 8 (07:07):
I can tell you what the end result was. All
we have left now are skeletal remains period. As a
matter of fact, her body, Nancy was so badly decayed
after they recovered it from that brushy area out there
in that swamp like environment, that they could not even
(07:28):
come to a conclusion about what her specific cause of death.
It's non specified homicidal means and it's as.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Scott, excuse me, wasn't duct tape wrapped around the baby's
mouth and nose with a heartstick or stuck on it.
That gives me a pretty good idea as.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
To how she died. You think you could survive with
duct tape wrapped around your nose and mouth.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
I'll go one better than that, Nancy. It wasn't around
her nose and mouth, it was around her skull. Just
let that sink in, just for a second. That's what
was done to this child. She's cast off like garbage, Nancy.
And then you know, insult to injury. Here. We're talking
a month down range before anyone says peep about her missing,
(08:19):
and all the while she's been out there just in
a state of decay, Nancy. And as you know, Florida
is a very harsh environment. There was hardly anything left
that scientifically we could really hang our hats on to
try to understand what it actually happened to her.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You know, just saying that, Joe Scott Morgan and think
about it every day, every day, tot Mom Casey Anthony
would pass that spot, as I said, it's about ten
houses down from the Anthony home and you come out
of their culd to sec and if you turn right,
well you have to pass it, do you know, Jos
(08:57):
I don't think I've ever told you this.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I have never been back to where my fiance was murdered. Never.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, I don't think I could stand to look at it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I know that's where he was murdered.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
But she passed this every day and never said a word.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Day by day.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Think about it, Joe Scott, as each hour passes. What
happened to Kelly's body? When did flies show up? It
lay eggs?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
When did he.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Her flesh start slipping off of her body? I know
it's harsh, Joe Scott, but this is the reality.
Speaker 8 (09:32):
Yeah, you're you're right, And in that environment, it's so
harsh down there, Nancy. And to think that this person
could have moved back and forth across this and you know,
court said that she didn't know, or at least they
didn't find her guilty of it. But come on, give
me a break. You know you're driving by this every
(09:53):
single day, and that precious little angel is out there
and it stated O kay, I can't even begin to
plumb the depths of how.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
What happens first, Joe Scott? What happens first? But her
body is in that bag? What happens in the first
five hours of her body being that bag.
Speaker 8 (10:09):
Yeah, just within the first five hours, particularly in Florida,
You're going to have the presence of flies being attracted
to this area and people say, well, she's in a bag.
You know, they know flies always find a way they
get in and then they begin or they kind of
aid in this process of decomposition and it's sped up
(10:30):
very very quickly in that environment. Nancy, and having worked
in Louisiana, that's very similar to this. I've actually seen
flags laid on the eyes and the mouth and the
nose within three hours of death.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yet today top Mom Casey Anthony returns to tick talk stardom.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
There are people close to me who have been targeted
and attacked recently.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
They're also people close to me who have had some.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Recent things occur and when necessary, people needed to step
up myself included.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That is from at Casey Anthony Underscore Substack. Okay, I
just heard her say.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
There are people close to me that I've been targeted,
like Kelly.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
Is your is your daughter there?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I wind have song with them?
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Is your daughter there?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Yeah? I stupid her?
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Do you winded by stupid her? Thank you?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I call them two hours ago, man and taught here.
Finally there is a very.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Prom ma'am, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Okay, they want to talk to question.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Hello, Hello, yes, Hi, Well can you can you tell
me what's.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Going on a little bit? I'm sorry, can you tell
me what what's going on? And my daughter has been
received for the last thirty one days and you know
who has her? I know who, Arthur. I've tried to
contact her. I actually received the song hole today now
from a number of this is no longer in service.
I didn't get to speak to my daughter for about
(12:06):
a minute.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Okay, did you guys follow me for a vehicle storm?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
And yes, my mom did.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
All of that is a lie. She is describing her daughter.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Being taken by the nanny, and today she's saying people
close to me have been targeted and attacked. Really, what
about Zenaida Fernanda's Glazales. That's a real person that was
attacked and wrongly named by her as a kidnapper.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That's a real person.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
That's a woman wandering around minding her own business. They
got dragged into top mom Casey Anthony's vortex.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
She even spells the name for Peep's sake, you have
her do a name.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Her name is Ray, that's Fernando and Zallas.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Who is that?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Maybe she's been my nanny for fout a year, almost
two years.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Why are you calling now? Why didn't you call thirty
one days ago?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I've been looking for her and have gone through other
resources to try to find her, which was stupid. Okay,
can you can you give me the name of the
ban Nanni again?
Speaker 9 (13:15):
Like sell it out for me, Niva, the n ai
Ba last favor Nandez Fernandez hyphen Gonzales.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Man, what a liar she even knows how to put
the hyphen Gonzales. There's actually a real person out there
names in Night Fernandez Gonzales.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And isn't it true? To Shanna Butler joining me right now?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Investigative reporter WFTV Channel nine, Florida. This jurisdiction that when
the apartment where tot Mom says she dropped off baby
Kelly was found by police, it had been vacant for
one hundred and forty days, one hundred and forty days
(14:01):
no one had lived there.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Then when she took police to.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Where she worked, to Universal Studios, she got all the
way in the car with cops all the way to
the security gate, all the way through the security gate
to the building, out of the car, walking in the
building to find her boss, and she says.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Okay, you got me.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I haven't worked here in three years, all the time
wearing her universal uniform with her tag, her parents speaking.
She worked while she sat on the sofa and eight
chips while they paid for Kelly.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Isn't all of that true?
Speaker 10 (14:36):
That is all true? I remember back then. I mean,
I did nothing but this story for three years here
in Orlando. And I remember when we talked to the
investigators after all of this happened, they said they had
never met a better liar than Casey Anthony, that she
was so stuck to those stories, even when they were
(14:58):
going through universe on there and she said, oh yeah,
I don't work here. She was so defiant, they said
about the story she was telling, almost looking at them like,
you're a bunch of idiots. Hear what I'm saying. This
is what happened, And she stuck with those stories, and.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
They said that she was.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
It was.
Speaker 10 (15:16):
It was a tough interview. I mean, look at her,
you wouldn't think that she would be so married to
those stories. That these investigators could break her. They said
she just kept going and kept going and kept going
with those stories. That she either believed those lies or
was just dead set on trying to make sure everyone
else believed them too.
Speaker 11 (15:32):
I literally have nothing right now. I am so.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Hurt by everything.
Speaker 12 (15:39):
And I watched that episode.
Speaker 11 (15:41):
Of Nancy Grace the stuff that was being said about me,
and you don't. You guys are not understanding my.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Side on this.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
What side is that that you murdered your daughter and
left it to decay in a swamp ten houses down from.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
The Anthony home and then went by her every day.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Wait, maybe you didn't drive by every day, because in
those thirty one days that your daughter was decomposing, you
were slung up at your boyfriend's house with all of
his roommates. That's romantic, and according to him, you never
acted like anything was wrong at all. I guess it
bothers me more that Kelly was decomposing with flies all
(16:20):
over her body while you were making spaghetti for him
and his roommates. Okay, that said in the last hours,
toddm'm casey Anthony's return to stardom TikTok fame.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yes, it's real. Listen.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
For those of you who don't know, my name is
Kasey Anthony, my daughter is Kaylee Anthony. My parents are
George and Cindy Anthony. This is not about them. This
is not in response to anything that they have said
or done. That's not to say that I'm not going
to respond at some point to some of the things
that they have said and done.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That was from the TikTok account at Casey Anthony underscore
substate speaking of George Anthony that you dragged through the
mud your own father.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Listen.
Speaker 13 (17:01):
I remember being asked about this at the very beginning
when I talked about walking up to that car and
getting about three feet away from it and the smell
that emanated from that car. I could smell it three
feet away on the passenger side when I opened up
that card tour. Yeah, it smelled like decomposition, human decomposition.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That's George Anthony, who I consider to be a friend
from our friends at wesh WSH two News. But he
had to take the stand and describing the overwhelming smell
of human decomposition during the search for his granddaughter and
straight out to Shannon Butler and WFTV.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
That car, that smelled of human d coop whose.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Car was that Casey Anthony's speaking of George listen.
Speaker 14 (17:54):
In Casey Anthony's version of events on June sixteenth, two
thousand and eight, Casey Anthony claimed she wasn't feeling well
and got Kaylle to lay down with her. Anthony claims
she was woken by her father shaking her and asking
where Kaylee was.
Speaker 15 (18:06):
Kasey Anthony claims she saw her father, George Anthony, holding
Kaylee and that Kaylee was soaking wet. She further claims
that George Anthony handed Kealle to her, saying it was
all her fault. She claims George didn't want to call
nine one one and wasn't trying to resuscitate her, so
she left and stayed with her boyfriend at the time,
Tony Lazarro, for the next thirty one days. She claimed
(18:27):
she believed Kaylee was alive.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, let me understand this. You're the defensatory Troy Slayton.
So she says she laid down for a nap, woke up,
Kelly was gone, and her dad.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Said everything will be okay.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
After she sees Kelle lifeless and drenched soaked with water,
so she says okay and goes this slings up with
the boyfriend for the next month. Just yes, Note does
that make sense to you?
Speaker 12 (18:55):
Her grandparents took care of Kaylee all the time. This
was not unusual. They she was at their house, she
was with them, she was an integral part of the family.
And it's not unusual for grandparents to look after their granddaughter.
And this is a single mind.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I just want to say, if he's keeping a straight
face right now, Wait, children, I believe you.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Do, don't you?
Speaker 12 (19:20):
I absolutely do.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Okay, So you see your child lifeless, lifeless, drenched, soaked in.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Water, and what do you do?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You leave and sling up at your lover's apartment for
thirty one days?
Speaker 8 (19:35):
You know that her?
Speaker 10 (19:36):
What are you?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
What are you babbling about? What is this? Gibberius?
Speaker 12 (19:41):
Sure the jury disagreed with you and agreed whiskey you
right now?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Does it make sense to you?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Is that what you would do if you saw your
child lifeless, drenched, sing?
Speaker 12 (19:56):
You know, I knew that my child was dead. But
you know what's really interesting is that thirty one days.
It's interesting Suddenly the grandparents are calling the police, crying
in tears. Thirty one days after their granddaughter, who was
with them all the time, is gone. Suddenly on this
thirty first day, they're calling the police.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
That's that's not what happened.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Shannon Butler joining me, let me refresh your recollection. Troy
s Layton Shannon WFTV. Isn't it true that during those
thirty one days, Top Mom, Casey Anthony, would repeatedly tell
her mother, Oh, we're here, We're there, We're at the
grocery store, We're at Target. Oh, the nanny has her
at the beach. She lied throughout and would never let
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Grandma Cindy Anthony speak to Kelly.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Isn't that true? That is correct?
Speaker 10 (20:48):
I mean she did give her parents a lot of
stories pretending that Kaylee was okay. I think that the
parents were concerned about it, but there was no indication
at that point that she was missing or had disappeared,
So it took some time. In their defense, you know,
it took some time because of the stories that Casey
(21:09):
was telling them.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
They had no reason to think anything was amiss.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Back to Rob Dick joining me, this is Top Mom's
former bodyguard now owner of Renegade Investigations. As a matter
of fact, isn't it true that when you dealt with
top mom Casey Anthony, she.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Acted cool as a cucumber, like nothing was.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Wrong the entire time, that entire thirty one days that
she apparently had this baby, she acted like nothing was wrong.
My point is her demeanor. What was her demeanor when
you were around her?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Rob Dick?
Speaker 16 (21:46):
Definitely not a person who is quote missing a child.
I mean she never acted like that. She acted like
there was nothing wrong. Kaylee's name never came up. I mean,
this is the time when she's locked the way in jail,
comes out her first public exposure. I mean, what would
a normal mother do be asking where are we at?
(22:08):
What's going on? Anybody heard anything? Not once is she
bringing up Kayley?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
You mean you had her in the car with you,
You drove her to her parents' home where she has
been free loading for years. At any point with her
in the car, did she cry? Did she seem upset
that she say? I can't I've got to go find
my daughter. I can't find Kelly. Where's Kelly? Have you
(22:34):
heard about Kelly? What's the latest? I didn't have TV,
I didn't have ready. What's happening with my daughter? Did
that ever happen Rob Dick.
Speaker 16 (22:40):
Not once, not once did she bring her up or
even seem to care about looking for It was George
and Cindy that were trying to find any details, not her.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I have someone here that I need to be arrested
in my home there there right? Hell, hi for the
most child three that's been missing for a month, a
three year old? Yeah, have you reported that. I'm trying
to do that now, ma'am? Okay, what did the person
(23:11):
do that you need arrested my daughter.
Speaker 17 (23:16):
For? What?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
For stealing an autumn and storing money? I already spoke
with someone. They said they would patch me through the
Orlando Sheriff's Department, have a deputy here. I was in
the car. I was going to give work to the
police station and my one's open. They said they would
bring a deputy to my home when I got home
to call them.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
So she's still your vehicle?
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
When did you do that?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
On the thirtieth? I just got it back from the impound.
I'd like to speak to an officer. Can you have
someone come out to my house?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Now, hold on a moment.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Not only is Tom mom Casey Anthony preaching, chewing out
Vice President Vance about Ice. She also is making time
to party party at the Avalon Beach House, Delray Beach, Florida. Okay,
(24:27):
now this is not an AI generated photo. Tom, I'm
Casey Anthony is the life of the party at the
Member's Only Palm Beach reality show.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Found on a video clip. What happened? She was at
one of the.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Cast members, DJ Maria Cosamanisi's DJ party at the Avalon
Beach House. Why isn't she out doing something good for
the world instead of showing up and yet another push
up bra partying Anthony at the new song launch party,
her face clearly seen facing DJ Maria up on the stage.
(25:05):
At some point, Top Mom Casey Anthony gets angry. Is
it because she's caught on camera partying in her pushup bra? Hey,
I don't have anything against pushup bras. I'm fine with that.
But the reason I'm mad about it here is because
during the Top Mom Casey Anthony investigation, I viewed footage
of her buying beer and pushup brast Oh gosh, I
(25:29):
guess it was a Walmart or a target somewhere that
had really good surveillance video and this is while her
daughter was quote missing, Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I'm so irritated.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
And then also while her daughter was missing missing in quotes,
I ate dead at her hands she was partying, and
yet another pushup bra at the Fusion Nightclub's Hot Body contest,
wrapped around a stripper pole. Look, I'm not the church lady.
I don't care. You can wrap yourself around a stripper
pole anytime you want and you won't hear a peep
(26:04):
out of me, But not while your two year old
baby is quote missing translation dad in your trunk.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
That said, let's take a review of.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
The evidence that I would think would be weighing heavily
on top mom Casey Anthony's mind.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
But instead, I am a legal advocate. I am a researcher.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I've been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and
in this capacity, I feel that it's necessary, if I'm
going to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate,
that I start to advocate for myself and also advocate
for my daughter.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Advocate for your daughter, legal advocate my rear end. Your
exposure to the justice system was when you were tried
for murder. That is from at Casey Anthony underscore substack
and it will be a cold day in h double
l before I listen to one episode and give one
red penny to top mom?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
How long are you listening for? My daughter's been for
the last thirty one years?
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Why are you calling now? Why didn't she call it
thy one days ago?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I have been looking for her humid.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Lies, all lies.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I want you to see on Twitter what populated last night?
And I couldn't agree with you more, Chris says Nancy
Casey Anthony's on TikTok claiming to be a legal advocate
justice for Peyton When she said she was advocating for
her daughter, I felt physically ill. Seeing her follower count
(27:37):
up to over forty thousand, is nauseated. What the f
is wrong with these people camping life?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
With all the lies she told about her daughter? Who
would believe a word? She says Sandy Cole, I could
stomach sending you the video.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
But guess who's made a social media appearance and claiming
to be a legal advocate. I hope you're sitting down,
Layla says, where is Nancy Grace? Why is Kasey Anthony
on TikTok trying to make a platform for herself.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Go yell at her, don't worry. I will, Lauren Colin.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I'm going to I can't wait to hear you break
down her filthy lies. Okay, let me go to my
colleague Joe Scott Morgan just for another reality check.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Joe Scott while we are.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Watching Top Mom Casey Anthony's return to stardom and TikTok
fame fame. I never actually thought those words would come
out of my mouth, but they are. This isn't her
first stab at making money off her dead daughter again,
how was Kelly's body found? Just turned three? She's got
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that big right there listening.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
Yeah, she's found decomposing in the swamp Nancy after being
cast off. But I've got one more for you as well.
Going back to what Rob had said earlier with her
in the car with him, her reaction. Remember what Dad said,
He went to the car and he smelled decomposition when
he got into the car. That doesn't just miraculously happen.
(29:09):
You know, you can take a deceased person and put
them in the car and you're not going to have
a whiff of decomposition. It takes time for that to
produce itself and present. That baby was in that car
for a protracted period of time, traveling all about all
the while she's living the party life, you.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Know, Dodor Bethany Marshall.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
When the trial occurred, we moved to Orlando for the
duration of the trial, and I had the twins with me.
Do you know how many times I wish now I
could have him at that age again, to you know,
take care of them, to love them, to brush their hair.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
To take them to fun places to go.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
And I think about this child in.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
A trash bag.
Speaker 18 (30:03):
Nancy Kaylee was only a pawn for Casey Anthony. Listen
to what she says on this TikTok. She's going to
be a legal advocate for her daughter. She's just using
her daughter to manipulate the public to garner sympathy. You
know why she was living with her parents, right, George
and Cindy. She was living with them because she relegated
the care of her daughter to the grandparents. And finally,
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Cindy Anthony goes and sees a therapist, and the therapist
says to Cindy Anthony, you need to get your daughter
to start taking care of the granddaughter. That is what
precipitated all of this. At this Cindy came home and
said to Kaylee, to Casey, you need to start taking
care of Kaylee.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Well you know what happened. Then.
Speaker 18 (30:45):
Casey had only been using her daughter as a pawn
with her own grandparents. So as you used to say,
she could lie on the sofa, eat chips, go out
with other people, you know, just live the high life.
This little girl was only used by her mother. And
anybody who begins to watch those TikTok videos is going
to participate in that exploitation of a child.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Thank you, doctor Bethany. I managed to get myself together.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
One of the cardinal rules of trying a case or
analyzing a case is don't put yourself in the shoes
of the victim. And I just did that thinking about
my own children at that tender age. I had them
with me while I covered the Top Mom Ksey Anthony
trial and investigated it myself.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
But in the very latest Top.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Mom Casey Anthony's return to TikTok stardom.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
For any idiot that wants to pay for it.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Listen, for those of you who don't know, my name
is Kasey Anthony, my daughter is Kaylee Anthony. My parents
are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not about them.
This is not in response to anything that they have
said or done. That's not to say that I'm not
going to respond at some point to some of the
things that they have.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Said and done.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Oh yeah, I'm sure she's going to attack her parents
because she once she ride her daughter's corpse to Helen back,
then she'll have to find somebody else to attack, and
that would be George and Cindy.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
That is from at Casey.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Anthony Underscore substack, that's the new TikTok accounts.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And speaking of George, he passed a Polly Tom Mom.
Can't say that, listen. I didn't know where she was at, correct.
Speaker 16 (32:19):
That's all I'm asking. So the question again, did you
knowingly conceal Keaylly's wedlines.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
From our friends at any So the story went from
I don't know where Kelly is to oh, yeah, you
know what. I was taking a NAT with Kelly and
I woke up.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
She was gone, and I.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Started looking for her and the next thing I know,
my dad showed up and she was lifeless, drenched in water,
and I just went away and had sex with my
boyfriend for thirty one days. I thought everything was just
be fine. Well it went from that too. George Anthony
molested me and my daughter, and then he killed my
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daughter to cover up the molestation. But there's another theory
as to why tot Mom hatched the molestation story.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Listen.
Speaker 19 (33:11):
Cindy Anthony claims in the new special on A and
E Casey Anthony's parents, the Light Detector Test, that the
reason her daughter, Casey Anthony accused her father of molestation
is because she found out that her father, George Anthony,
was the main witness to testify against her in front
of the grand jury, besides the Sheriff's Department detective. When
asked why he testified in front of the grand jury,
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George Anthony says he believed his daughter, Casey Anthony belonged
in jail.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
What about that defense attorney Troy Slayton joining us out
of la You gave me this big song and dance
about the baby, but what about dragging your own father
through the mud. He got up and testified and subjected
himself to cross examination on all of her lies about
him molesting little Cally.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
She didn't.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
She sat there silent and watched hers be destroyed on
the stand, So it's okay with you that she drags
them through the mud as well. Suddenly, when she's on
trial for murder, Sheet remembers that her dad sex molested her.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Oh yes, she said her brother sex molested her too,
That she was molested and so was Cally. And the
whole reason.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Her father, a former cop, murdered Kelly is because he
was covering up molestation.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
On a two year old little girl. Is that okay
with you that she.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Drags down everybody around her and now she wants my money.
Speaker 12 (34:36):
Do we only respect a jury verdict when the verdict
comes out the way we want. I mean, I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Asking you about George. I'm asking you about George.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
You've already gotten on your soapbox about a verdict that
the jurors say they regret what I'm asking you about George,
dragging him through the mud.
Speaker 12 (34:56):
Dragging him through the mud. This is the jury believed
what she said. Obviously, the jury found that there was
Insufficiency's not.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
What they said. Well, they said they didn't understand cause
of dead.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I'm asking you about her changing story and then dragging
George through the mud.
Speaker 12 (35:15):
This wasn't where six people thought one thing and six
people thought another thing or.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
A going to address what she did to her father.
Maybe it was true.
Speaker 12 (35:25):
We don't know whether or not it was true.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Hey, hey, you better watch out Troy Slayton, because there
is something called oral slander defamation. It'll be a cold
day in ag double l that I stand by unless
somebody claim George molested anybody you're calling Casey Antelly.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
It may be true, not guilty.
Speaker 12 (35:49):
She has been exonerated by our criminal justice system, and
everybody here is branding her a murderer.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And now she's making money off her daughter's dead body
and is threatening to drag George and Cindy to hell
them back again.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Listen, can't you hear her? For Pete's sake?
Speaker 5 (36:08):
For those of you who don't know, my name is
Casey Anthony, my daughter is Kaylee Anthony.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
My parents are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not
about them.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
This is not in response to anything that they have
said or done. That's not to say that I'm not
going to respond at some point to some of the
things that they have said and done.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
TikTok at, Casey Anthony, underscore substant.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
Can you tell me a little bit. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
My daughter's been missing for the last thirty one days,
and you know who has her? I know who as
I've tried to contact her. I actually received a phone
call today now from a number that is no longer
in service. I did get to speak to my daughter
for thought a moment, about a minute.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Okay, did you guys call report a vehicle?
Speaker 6 (36:51):
So on?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
And yes, my mom did. Okay, Okay, so there's been
a vehicle so on too. No, this is my vehicle.
What be a core sword? It's a neat Pontiac sunfire.
Speaker 7 (37:07):
Okay. I have deputy's on the way to you right
now for that.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
But now you're now you're three old, three oldaughter is missing?
Kaylee Anthony kay white female? Yes, female, three years old,
eight nine day to birth. Yes, and you last saw
her a month ago. Thirty one Diggs from thirty one Diggs.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Todd.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I'm Casey Anthony rears her ugly head again, chewing out
VP Vance. Whether you agree with him or not about ice,
that's a whole other can of worms. I'm talking about
a dead baby. I'm talking about Kelly Anthony Todd. Mom
throws her dad and mom under the bus, chewing them out,
making them look bad at trial.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, look at them, don't look at me.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So she takes her a substack that she w out
other people as a quote legal advocate. That hurts, but
then parties hardy at a Palm Beach DJ party. The
DJ party was filmed and included in the Netflix show
Members Only Palm Beach episode four that follows five women
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and I question, how the hey did top mom Casey
Anthony let get into the party? Okay, very very strict,
rs VP's there. Back to Kelly, what happened to that
little child? That's sweet, sweet little child.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
America. I mean I found out my grandsither had been
taking she has been missing for another third for mother.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
That she's been missed.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Okay, and he's talking about a four year old little girl.
My daughter finally admitted that the baby turns foor. I
need to find her.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
Your daughter admitted that your the baby is later, but it.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Tender took her month together that my daughter's been looking for.
I told you my daughter was missing for a month.
I just found her today that I can't find my granddaughter.
She just admitted to me that she's been trying to
find her herself. There's something wrong. I found my daughter's
car today and it's not like there's been a dead
daughter and it's the car.
Speaker 7 (39:37):
Okay, what is the three year old's name?
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Kaylee c A y l E E. Anthony, Kaylee Anthony? Yeah, okay?
Speaker 7 (39:46):
She wipe black? Her Hispanic?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
He's white.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
How long has she been missing for?
Speaker 4 (39:51):
I had not seen her since the seventh of June?
Speaker 11 (39:57):
My entire life for me? Do you understand how I feel?
I mean, do you really understand how I feel on this?
But I'm just as much of a victim as the
rest of you.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Oh, my stars, I'm just as much of a victim
as the rest of you. Speaking of all her lies
on George Rob Dick joining me Casey Anthony's former bodyguard
now owner Renegade Investigations, Rob Dick. Isn't it true that
after she was brought home the first time before she
was charged with murder, George Anthony physically attacked her, pushed
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her up against the wall, demanding to know where's Kelly?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Isn't that true?
Speaker 12 (40:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (40:38):
I was obvious at that point. George had no idea
he wanted the answers he knew that something had happened
to his granddaughter and he grabbed her. He wanted the
answers what happened to Kelley?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
And this was in front of you as well as Cindy.
But at any time did she say, Dad, you had
her last.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Remember when you got her out of the pool after
you molested her. Did any of that happened, Rob Dick.
Speaker 16 (41:01):
She never brought up those issues until trial.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Listen to more of Top Mom in her new money
making venture as a proponent.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
For the LGBTQ community for legal community women's rates. I
feel that it's important that I use this platform that
was thrust upon me and now look at as a
blessing as opposed to the curse.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
That it has been since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Translation, I'm broke and I need beer money. Quick question,
Joe Scott Morgan, When is menopause?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Just tell me quick? When is minopause?
Speaker 8 (41:35):
It's variable depended upon the population and specific women. You
began to think about forty to fifty that time frame generally.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
So we're really not even close. She could still have
a baby.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
That's the only news that could be worse.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Right now, Tom Mom has her hand in my pocket
and everybody else is making money off her child. By
the way, that was from her TikTok account at Casey
Anthony Underscore substack. She could have another baby. It's possible.
Let's just all say a silent prayer that that doesn't happen. Okay,
Now more of top Mom and her money grab.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
As a proponent for the LGBTQ community, for legal community
women's rates, I feel that it's important that I use
this platform that was thrust upon me and now look
at as a blessing as opposed to the curse that it.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
Has been since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
A proponent for the LGBTQ community.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
What did they ask you to be their advocate?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
They have enough problems with people attacking them every day
just because of who they are.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Nothing more with friends like this, who needs an enemy?
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
They want you advocating for them, Tap Mom, What like
you advocated for your daughter, or your mother or your
father who you continue to take advantage of? That is
from a top Mom's TikTok account at Casey Anthony Underscore Substech.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
There's more. Listen.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
My goal is to continue to help give a voice
to people, to give people tools and resources that they
can utilize, so they actually know where they can turn to.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Now here is the woman.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Who is asking for your money talking about privacy. I've
never seen anything like it since Harry and Megan and
their worldwide Privacy tour.
Speaker 5 (43:34):
Listen, I will explain in great detail why it's so
important for people to protect their privacy. It's not just
important to public figures. It's even more important to private individuals.
And with the current climate in our country especially, it's
that much more important.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
The current climate.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I'm pretty sure, top mom, the current climate has always
been anti.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Murdering your child.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
That's from the official TikTok account at Casey Anthony underscore
subsect privacy. Let's see how maintain your privacy? Possibly don't
get in a bar fight.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
So you just need anser. Yeah, well, if you even
said that to me, I can say your product. Yeah no,
I haven't exceived for stuff like this.
Speaker 7 (44:20):
But i'm your file and restraining order.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
I didn't have enough stream I hadn't actually tax scene
was not enough, or showing up where I was.
Speaker 10 (44:30):
Was not enough.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
This is enough in.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Front of witnesses. I'll tell you why I taught mom.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Kasey Anthony didn't file a restraining order after that bar
fight from our friends at Channel six because nobody would
believe that she was the victim.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
There's more maintain privacy. Don't get in the bar fight again.
I apologize.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
I said, are prime ser val that I filmed her.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Here here as witnesses.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
So I'm not trying to file her training where I
just wanted to dollar and I don't want to trading
where at it for six months and you go away, Well, we'll.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Docoment and I'll putting as verbal dreads because you say
that she can call me out and you can tell
she threw on me.
Speaker 17 (45:27):
Along with her TikTok video, Casey Anthony announces her deal
with Substack, a subscription based service that allows writers and
podcasters to release material directly to subscribers. Subscriptions to Anthony's
Substack channel costs ten dollars a month or one hundred
dollars annually, although she offers free subscriptions with limited content.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
One hundred dollars for an annual subscription to tot Mom,
Casey Anthony's new TikTok Take a look at tot Mom's
Mother from our friends at Ana and to sit here
and listen to her, keep making different stories as it fits.
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I'm sorry, doctor Bethany, why can't Cindy breathe?
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Right there, Cindy is having a panic attack.
Speaker 18 (46:19):
Her heart rate is elevated, She's overwhelmed. She can't think
because she is reminiscing about her granddaughter's death. She's having
intrusive thoughts and memories. She's thinking about that little girl
lying in a swamp.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
She's being interviewed. So when people have trauma.
Speaker 18 (46:37):
And they begin to talk about the original event, it
actually reactivates the trauma. It's as if they're in it. Nancy,
you've heard of the term flashback with people who have
post traumatic stress disorder. They have flashbacks. She is in
a flashback and George knows how to comfort her. You know,
this could have torn this couple apart, but they have
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become more more and more solid over time. Unlike their daughter,
who's not bonded with the granddaughter, this couple is bonded
with each other and they care and love They care
for and love each other.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I just wonder what this new return.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Where top Mom rears her ugly head, most people would
run for the hills, as if they had seen a monster,
but apparently they're nearly three thousand subscribers as we go
to air. But this isn't her first money grab by far. Listen.
Speaker 14 (47:28):
In her ongoing effort to get a spotlight back on
her face, Casey Anthony is pitching a reality TV show
about her life. The proposals submitted on her behalf would
provide an intimate window into the daily life of one
of the most controversial women in America. The proposal says,
in each episode, Casey will go about her day working, socializing, dating.
(47:48):
She will share her thoughts and opinions, and will give
an intimate look into her world. One Hollywood executive who
passed on the pitch says he hopes someone has the
guts to pick it up. He wants to watch it
a reality show.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
In each episode, Top Mom goes about her day working, socializing,
and dating too. Shannon Butler are joining me WFTV Channel nine.
I can only imagine what this is doing to George
and Cindy Anthony the re emergence of Top Mom. She
says she will address her parents. She just released a
(48:21):
statement threatening people if they slander her or defame her.
I can only imagine what she's going to say about them.
Speaker 10 (48:29):
You know, we still see them from time to time.
They still live here, they still have their home, and
I think what people maybe forget about what happened to
George and Cindy. It wasn't just what happened during that,
but there were long lasting effects here. I mean, their
house was in foreclosure, They had a hard time, you know,
getting jobs. He was in a horrible, horrible car accident
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a few years ago. A lot has happened to them,
and it is difficult even now when you see them,
you know, at the grocery store or at a restaurant,
to imagine what these folks are going through. And I
think for them, they're always bracing for the next thing.
I don't think that many people are surprised that she
has now re emerged. I think that was always going
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to be the plan down the road. But I think
that they prepare themselves for whatever is going to come next,
because for them, it just seems to never ever end.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Let me remind everyone, as Troy Slayton has done so
tom im Casey Anthony was acquitted of murder. Of course,
the drors now say they regret that they were wrong,
but so what she was acquitted. But every time that
you subscribe or download her gibberish and lies, you're putting
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another dollar in her pocket.
Speaker 7 (49:55):
Who have her do a name?
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Her name is Janaiva Fernando's goodallas, So is that baby?
She's been my nanny for about a year and a half,
almost two years.
Speaker 7 (50:12):
Why are you calling now? Why didn't you call thirty
one days ago?
Speaker 4 (50:16):
I have been looking for her and have gone through
other resources to try to find her, which was stupid.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
And other Top Mom Casey Anthony news looks like Top
Mama has snagged another man?
Speaker 3 (50:27):
What is he thinking?
Speaker 2 (50:30):
She was spotted wearing always include her outfits a sleeveless,
nearly backless black top.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
And jeans.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
At the Season's Tickets Bar.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Manchester, New Hampshire with a bearded man does her dinner date?
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Not know who he's eating with? I don't know. Maybe
some guys like that.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
I'm not really sure, but I want to revisit her
on her substack, claiming I am a legal advocate. I've
been in the legal field since twenty eleven. When you're
charged with murder, listen to Top Mom Casey Anthony on
her substack.
Speaker 5 (51:14):
I am a legal advocate. I am a researcher. I've
been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in
this capacity, I feel that it's necessary if I'm going
to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that
I start to advocate for myself and also advocate for
my daughter.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Aside from having dinner with unsuspecting men, ranting and preaching
from her substack, and attending DJ parties. Top Mom Casey
Anthony also took a few moments to curse out, stating,
if you to Megan Kelly about one of Megan Kelly's
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podcast episodes, you would think at this point Hot Mom
would get it and go try to do something good
for the world.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
You know, volunteer somewhere, do something good.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
But no, that is not gonna happen. When you don't
know a horse, look at her track record. When you
don't know what someone's going to do, look at what
they've already done. We wait as just as unfolds for
Top Mom, Casey Anthony, Nancy Grace signing off, Little Kelly rested,
(52:32):
Mace
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh my stars, top mom, Casey Anthony, shut your pie hole.
We don't say the S word, which is stupid or
shut up in our home, but just this one time,
shut up woman good cravy as if we want to
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hear her preaching about.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Anything, tom Mom.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Casey Anthony made national headlines after she was accused of
murdering her two year old little girl, Kelly, And now
she is preaching, y'all, she is preaching criticizing Vice President
Vance's defense of an ICE officer who shot Renee Nicole
(00:56):
Good in Minneapolis. I'm not our arguing about Ice right now.
I have opinions about what happened. That's not the point.
The point is Casey Anthony, please stop talking. I'm Nancy Grace.
This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for
(01:17):
being with us. As we all sadly know, now talk
Mo'm Casey Anthony has a substack and she communicates on
that substack.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Quote from those of us in the legal world, what woman,
why are you saying you're in the legal world. You
were trying for murder.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You were convicted on a couple of lesser counts. Oh,
from those of us in the legal world. You should
try consulting with someone other than the corrupt Attorney General
of the US to get your information about how our
legal system and our constitution are applied to all citizens,
yourself included. You know what you're not in the legal world.
You were trying for murder and many people, including me,
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you're guilty. And you tried to drag your own father,
George Anthony, through the mud, claiming he was responsible. You
let your mother get up on the stand and perjure
herself to save your sorry skin. And now you are preaching.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Girl, get out of the pulpit.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Let's just have a little refresher about top Mom Casey
Anthony's indictment.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Today. It's a three year old team Kelly.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
That brings it back home to the Discovery.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And I went and looked at the spot where Kelly
Anthony's body was bagged in trash bags.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
From top Mom Casey Anthony's home and.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Thrown in a swampy area covered in trash and use tires, just.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Out of a swamp. And that is.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Where Kelly decomposed. This beautiful little girl, the shining light
of her grandparents' eyes in a swamp, decaying.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And now this.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I am a legal advocate, I am a researcher. I've
been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in
this capacity, I feel that it's necessary if I'm going
to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that
I start to advocate for myself and also advocate for
my daughter.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Okay, well, I need to see that again.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
That's from Casey Anthony's officialtok account at Casey Anthony underscore
substec ps. If you don't know what substec means, it
means money to her in her pocket.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I'll explain it. I've got to see this again.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
I am a legal advocate, I am a researcher. I've
been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in
this capacity, I feel that it's necessary if I'm going
to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that
I start to advocate for myself and also advocate.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
For my daughter.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay, that's a top one.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Ksey Anthony's TikTok account at Casey Anthony underscore substec whoa
whoa whoa legal advocate.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
No you're not.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
You were trying for the murder of your little girl.
Legal advocate.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
My rear end. And who did I hear her say
she's been involved. Let me look at this in the
legal system since two thy eleven. You mean when you
were tried for murder? Joining me an all star panel.
But I just want to remind everybody what this is
really about. No one would even know her name if
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it weren't for this.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Something wrong. My god, it was car to day and
it's not like this sent a dead body from car.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Okay, what is the three year old's name?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Kaylee? C A Y L E. E. Anthony Hailey Anthony, Yeah, Okay,
she white, black her Hispanics she's white. How long has
she been missing for? I have not seen her since
the seventh of June?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
What is her date of verse.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Eight nine? Two thousand, Oh god, you free? Two thousand
and five? True? Listen, what dreams? Listen?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
That is Cindy Anthony Kelly's grandmother calling reporting her missing.
Not taught mom, her own mother, advocate for my daughter.
Advocate for my daughter, who call nine one one, not
you listen?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Didn't talk a month ago?
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Okay, I mean I understand, Can you just can you
calm down for me for this minute? And I don't
even know what's going on.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Okay, I'm gonna chin.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Advocate for my daughter. Joining me. Joe Scott Morgan.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Or now death investigative professor at Jacksonville State University, author
of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon and star of
Body Bags with Joe Scott Morgan Reality check. You know,
finding out that top Mom is offering a substack. In
other words, you go listen to her and she gets money.
(06:39):
By the way, Joe Scott already just her announcement as
has racked up over.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Three million views. She gets paid for that. If there
are ads in there, all that money.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Is going into her pocket. Harsh reality. No one would
even know her name if she had not been charged
with murdering her daughter.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Tell me what happened to Kelly.
Speaker 8 (07:07):
I can tell you what the end result was. All
we have left now are skeletal remains period. As a
matter of fact, her body, Nancy was so badly decayed
after they recovered it from that brushy area out there
in that swamp like environment, that they could not even
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come to a conclusion about what her specific cause of death.
It's non specified homicidal means and it's as.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Scott, excuse me, wasn't duct tape wrapped around the baby's
mouth and nose with a heartstick or stuck on it.
That gives me a pretty good idea as.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
To how she died. You think you could survive with
duct tape wrapped around your nose and mouth.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
I'll go one better than that, Nancy. It wasn't around
her nose and mouth, it was around her skull. Just
let that sink in, just for a second. That's what
was done to this child. She's cast off like garbage, Nancy.
And then you know, insult to injury. Here. We're talking
a month down range before anyone says peep about her missing,
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and all the while she's been out there just in
a state of decay, Nancy. And as you know, Florida
is a very harsh environment. There was hardly anything left
that scientifically we could really hang our hats on to
try to understand what it actually happened to her.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You know, just saying that, Joe Scott Morgan and think
about it every day, every day, tot Mom Casey Anthony
would pass that spot, as I said, it's about ten
houses down from the Anthony home and you come out
of their culd to sec and if you turn right,
well you have to pass it, do you know, Jos
(08:57):
I don't think I've ever told you this.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I have never been back to where my fiance was murdered. Never.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, I don't think I could stand to look at it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I know that's where he was murdered.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
But she passed this every day and never said a word.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Day by day.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Think about it, Joe Scott, as each hour passes. What
happened to Kelly's body? When did flies show up? It
lay eggs?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
When did he.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Her flesh start slipping off of her body? I know
it's harsh, Joe Scott, but this is the reality.
Speaker 8 (09:32):
Yeah, you're you're right, And in that environment, it's so
harsh down there, Nancy. And to think that this person
could have moved back and forth across this and you know,
court said that she didn't know, or at least they
didn't find her guilty of it. But come on, give
me a break. You know you're driving by this every
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single day, and that precious little angel is out there
and it stated O kay, I can't even begin to
plumb the depths of how.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
What happens first, Joe Scott? What happens first? But her
body is in that bag? What happens in the first
five hours of her body being that bag.
Speaker 8 (10:09):
Yeah, just within the first five hours, particularly in Florida,
You're going to have the presence of flies being attracted
to this area and people say, well, she's in a bag.
You know, they know flies always find a way they
get in and then they begin or they kind of
aid in this process of decomposition and it's sped up
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very very quickly in that environment. Nancy, and having worked
in Louisiana, that's very similar to this. I've actually seen
flags laid on the eyes and the mouth and the
nose within three hours of death.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yet today top Mom Casey Anthony returns to tick talk stardom.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
There are people close to me who have been targeted
and attacked recently.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
They're also people close to me who have had some.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Recent things occur and when necessary, people needed to step
up myself included.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That is from at Casey Anthony Underscore Substack. Okay, I
just heard her say.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
There are people close to me that I've been targeted,
like Kelly.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
Is your is your daughter there?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I wind have song with them?
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Is your daughter there?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Yeah? I stupid her?
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Do you winded by stupid her? Thank you?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I call them two hours ago, man and taught here.
Finally there is a very.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Prom ma'am, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Okay, they want to talk to question.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Hello, Hello, yes, Hi, Well can you can you tell
me what's.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Going on a little bit? I'm sorry, can you tell
me what what's going on? And my daughter has been
received for the last thirty one days and you know
who has her? I know who, Arthur. I've tried to
contact her. I actually received the song hole today now
from a number of this is no longer in service.
I didn't get to speak to my daughter for about
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a minute.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Okay, did you guys follow me for a vehicle storm?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
And yes, my mom did.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
All of that is a lie. She is describing her daughter.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Being taken by the nanny, and today she's saying people
close to me have been targeted and attacked. Really, what
about Zenaida Fernanda's Glazales. That's a real person that was
attacked and wrongly named by her as a kidnapper.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That's a real person.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
That's a woman wandering around minding her own business. They
got dragged into top mom Casey Anthony's vortex.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
She even spells the name for Peep's sake, you have
her do a name.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Her name is Ray, that's Fernando and Zallas.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Who is that?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Maybe she's been my nanny for fout a year, almost
two years.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Why are you calling now? Why didn't you call thirty
one days ago?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I've been looking for her and have gone through other
resources to try to find her, which was stupid. Okay,
can you can you give me the name of the
ban Nanni again?
Speaker 9 (13:15):
Like sell it out for me, Niva, the n ai
Ba last favor Nandez Fernandez hyphen Gonzales.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Man, what a liar she even knows how to put
the hyphen Gonzales. There's actually a real person out there
names in Night Fernandez Gonzales.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And isn't it true? To Shanna Butler joining me right now?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Investigative reporter WFTV Channel nine, Florida. This jurisdiction that when
the apartment where tot Mom says she dropped off baby
Kelly was found by police, it had been vacant for
one hundred and forty days, one hundred and forty days
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no one had lived there.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Then when she took police to.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Where she worked, to Universal Studios, she got all the
way in the car with cops all the way to
the security gate, all the way through the security gate
to the building, out of the car, walking in the
building to find her boss, and she says.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Okay, you got me.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I haven't worked here in three years, all the time
wearing her universal uniform with her tag, her parents speaking.
She worked while she sat on the sofa and eight
chips while they paid for Kelly.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Isn't all of that true?
Speaker 10 (14:36):
That is all true? I remember back then. I mean,
I did nothing but this story for three years here
in Orlando. And I remember when we talked to the
investigators after all of this happened, they said they had
never met a better liar than Casey Anthony, that she
was so stuck to those stories, even when they were
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going through universe on there and she said, oh yeah,
I don't work here. She was so defiant, they said
about the story she was telling, almost looking at them like,
you're a bunch of idiots. Hear what I'm saying. This
is what happened, And she stuck with those stories, and.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
They said that she was.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
It was.
Speaker 10 (15:16):
It was a tough interview. I mean, look at her,
you wouldn't think that she would be so married to
those stories. That these investigators could break her. They said
she just kept going and kept going and kept going
with those stories. That she either believed those lies or
was just dead set on trying to make sure everyone
else believed them too.
Speaker 11 (15:32):
I literally have nothing right now. I am so.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Hurt by everything.
Speaker 12 (15:39):
And I watched that episode.
Speaker 11 (15:41):
Of Nancy Grace the stuff that was being said about me,
and you don't. You guys are not understanding my.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Side on this.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
What side is that that you murdered your daughter and
left it to decay in a swamp ten houses down from.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
The Anthony home and then went by her every day.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Wait, maybe you didn't drive by every day, because in
those thirty one days that your daughter was decomposing, you
were slung up at your boyfriend's house with all of
his roommates. That's romantic, and according to him, you never
acted like anything was wrong at all. I guess it
bothers me more that Kelly was decomposing with flies all
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over her body while you were making spaghetti for him
and his roommates. Okay, that said in the last hours,
toddm'm casey Anthony's return to stardom TikTok fame.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yes, it's real. Listen.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
For those of you who don't know, my name is
Kasey Anthony, my daughter is Kaylee Anthony. My parents are
George and Cindy Anthony. This is not about them. This
is not in response to anything that they have said
or done. That's not to say that I'm not going
to respond at some point to some of the things
that they have said and done.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That was from the TikTok account at Casey Anthony underscore
substate speaking of George Anthony that you dragged through the
mud your own father.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Listen.
Speaker 13 (17:01):
I remember being asked about this at the very beginning
when I talked about walking up to that car and
getting about three feet away from it and the smell
that emanated from that car. I could smell it three
feet away on the passenger side when I opened up
that card tour. Yeah, it smelled like decomposition, human decomposition.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That's George Anthony, who I consider to be a friend
from our friends at wesh WSH two News. But he
had to take the stand and describing the overwhelming smell
of human decomposition during the search for his granddaughter and
straight out to Shannon Butler and WFTV.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
That car, that smelled of human d coop whose.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Car was that Casey Anthony's speaking of George listen.
Speaker 14 (17:54):
In Casey Anthony's version of events on June sixteenth, two
thousand and eight, Casey Anthony claimed she wasn't feeling well
and got Kaylle to lay down with her. Anthony claims
she was woken by her father shaking her and asking
where Kaylee was.
Speaker 15 (18:06):
Kasey Anthony claims she saw her father, George Anthony, holding
Kaylee and that Kaylee was soaking wet. She further claims
that George Anthony handed Kealle to her, saying it was
all her fault. She claims George didn't want to call
nine one one and wasn't trying to resuscitate her, so
she left and stayed with her boyfriend at the time,
Tony Lazarro, for the next thirty one days. She claimed
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she believed Kaylee was alive.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, let me understand this. You're the defensatory Troy Slayton.
So she says she laid down for a nap, woke up,
Kelly was gone, and her dad.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Said everything will be okay.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
After she sees Kelle lifeless and drenched soaked with water,
so she says okay and goes this slings up with
the boyfriend for the next month. Just yes, Note does
that make sense to you?
Speaker 12 (18:55):
Her grandparents took care of Kaylee all the time. This
was not unusual. They she was at their house, she
was with them, she was an integral part of the family.
And it's not unusual for grandparents to look after their granddaughter.
And this is a single mind.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I just want to say, if he's keeping a straight
face right now, Wait, children, I believe you.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Do, don't you?
Speaker 12 (19:20):
I absolutely do.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Okay, So you see your child lifeless, lifeless, drenched, soaked in.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Water, and what do you do?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You leave and sling up at your lover's apartment for
thirty one days?
Speaker 8 (19:35):
You know that her?
Speaker 10 (19:36):
What are you?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
What are you babbling about? What is this? Gibberius?
Speaker 12 (19:41):
Sure the jury disagreed with you and agreed whiskey you
right now?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Does it make sense to you?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Is that what you would do if you saw your
child lifeless, drenched, sing?
Speaker 12 (19:56):
You know, I knew that my child was dead. But
you know what's really interesting is that thirty one days.
It's interesting Suddenly the grandparents are calling the police, crying
in tears. Thirty one days after their granddaughter, who was
with them all the time, is gone. Suddenly on this
thirty first day, they're calling the police.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
That's that's not what happened.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Shannon Butler joining me, let me refresh your recollection. Troy
s Layton Shannon WFTV. Isn't it true that during those
thirty one days, Top Mom, Casey Anthony, would repeatedly tell
her mother, Oh, we're here, We're there, We're at the
grocery store, We're at Target. Oh, the nanny has her
at the beach. She lied throughout and would never let
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Grandma Cindy Anthony speak to Kelly.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Isn't that true? That is correct?
Speaker 10 (20:48):
I mean she did give her parents a lot of
stories pretending that Kaylee was okay. I think that the
parents were concerned about it, but there was no indication
at that point that she was missing or had disappeared,
So it took some time. In their defense, you know,
it took some time because of the stories that Casey
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was telling them.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
They had no reason to think anything was amiss.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Back to Rob Dick joining me, this is Top Mom's
former bodyguard now owner of Renegade Investigations. As a matter
of fact, isn't it true that when you dealt with
top mom Casey Anthony, she.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Acted cool as a cucumber, like nothing was.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Wrong the entire time, that entire thirty one days that
she apparently had this baby, she acted like nothing was wrong.
My point is her demeanor. What was her demeanor when
you were around her?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Rob Dick?
Speaker 16 (21:46):
Definitely not a person who is quote missing a child.
I mean she never acted like that. She acted like
there was nothing wrong. Kaylee's name never came up. I mean,
this is the time when she's locked the way in jail,
comes out her first public exposure. I mean, what would
a normal mother do be asking where are we at?
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What's going on? Anybody heard anything? Not once is she
bringing up Kayley?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
You mean you had her in the car with you,
You drove her to her parents' home where she has
been free loading for years. At any point with her
in the car, did she cry? Did she seem upset
that she say? I can't I've got to go find
my daughter. I can't find Kelly. Where's Kelly? Have you
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heard about Kelly? What's the latest? I didn't have TV,
I didn't have ready. What's happening with my daughter? Did
that ever happen Rob Dick.
Speaker 16 (22:40):
Not once, not once did she bring her up or
even seem to care about looking for It was George
and Cindy that were trying to find any details, not her.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I have someone here that I need to be arrested
in my home there there right? Hell, hi for the
most child three that's been missing for a month, a
three year old? Yeah, have you reported that. I'm trying
to do that now, ma'am? Okay, what did the person
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do that you need arrested my daughter.
Speaker 17 (23:16):
For? What?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
For stealing an autumn and storing money? I already spoke
with someone. They said they would patch me through the
Orlando Sheriff's Department, have a deputy here. I was in
the car. I was going to give work to the
police station and my one's open. They said they would
bring a deputy to my home when I got home
to call them.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
So she's still your vehicle?
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
When did you do that?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
On the thirtieth? I just got it back from the impound.
I'd like to speak to an officer. Can you have
someone come out to my house?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Now, hold on a moment.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Not only is Tom mom Casey Anthony preaching, chewing out
Vice President Vance about Ice. She also is making time
to party party at the Avalon Beach House, Delray Beach, Florida. Okay,
(24:27):
now this is not an AI generated photo. Tom, I'm
Casey Anthony is the life of the party at the
Member's Only Palm Beach reality show.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Found on a video clip. What happened? She was at
one of the.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Cast members, DJ Maria Cosamanisi's DJ party at the Avalon
Beach House. Why isn't she out doing something good for
the world instead of showing up and yet another push
up bra partying Anthony at the new song launch party,
her face clearly seen facing DJ Maria up on the stage.
(25:05):
At some point, Top Mom Casey Anthony gets angry. Is
it because she's caught on camera partying in her pushup bra? Hey,
I don't have anything against pushup bras. I'm fine with that.
But the reason I'm mad about it here is because
during the Top Mom Casey Anthony investigation, I viewed footage
of her buying beer and pushup brast Oh gosh, I
(25:29):
guess it was a Walmart or a target somewhere that
had really good surveillance video and this is while her
daughter was quote missing, Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I'm so irritated.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
And then also while her daughter was missing missing in quotes,
I ate dead at her hands she was partying, and
yet another pushup bra at the Fusion Nightclub's Hot Body contest,
wrapped around a stripper pole. Look, I'm not the church lady.
I don't care. You can wrap yourself around a stripper
pole anytime you want and you won't hear a peep
(26:04):
out of me, But not while your two year old
baby is quote missing translation dad in your trunk.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
That said, let's take a review of.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
The evidence that I would think would be weighing heavily
on top mom Casey Anthony's mind.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
But instead, I am a legal advocate. I am a researcher.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I've been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and
in this capacity, I feel that it's necessary, if I'm
going to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate,
that I start to advocate for myself and also advocate
for my daughter.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Advocate for your daughter, legal advocate my rear end. Your
exposure to the justice system was when you were tried
for murder. That is from at Casey Anthony underscore substack
and it will be a cold day in h double
l before I listen to one episode and give one
red penny to top mom?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
How long are you listening for? My daughter's been for
the last thirty one years?
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Why are you calling now? Why didn't she call it
thy one days ago?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I have been looking for her humid.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Lies, all lies.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I want you to see on Twitter what populated last night?
And I couldn't agree with you more, Chris says Nancy
Casey Anthony's on TikTok claiming to be a legal advocate
justice for Peyton When she said she was advocating for
her daughter, I felt physically ill. Seeing her follower count
(27:37):
up to over forty thousand, is nauseated. What the f
is wrong with these people camping life?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
With all the lies she told about her daughter? Who
would believe a word? She says Sandy Cole, I could
stomach sending you the video.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
But guess who's made a social media appearance and claiming
to be a legal advocate. I hope you're sitting down,
Layla says, where is Nancy Grace? Why is Kasey Anthony
on TikTok trying to make a platform for herself.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Go yell at her, don't worry. I will, Lauren Colin.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I'm going to I can't wait to hear you break
down her filthy lies. Okay, let me go to my
colleague Joe Scott Morgan just for another reality check.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Joe Scott while we are.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Watching Top Mom Casey Anthony's return to stardom and TikTok
fame fame. I never actually thought those words would come
out of my mouth, but they are. This isn't her
first stab at making money off her dead daughter again,
how was Kelly's body found? Just turned three? She's got
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that big right there listening.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
Yeah, she's found decomposing in the swamp Nancy after being
cast off. But I've got one more for you as well.
Going back to what Rob had said earlier with her
in the car with him, her reaction. Remember what Dad said,
He went to the car and he smelled decomposition when
he got into the car. That doesn't just miraculously happen.
(29:09):
You know, you can take a deceased person and put
them in the car and you're not going to have
a whiff of decomposition. It takes time for that to
produce itself and present. That baby was in that car
for a protracted period of time, traveling all about all
the while she's living the party life, you.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Know, Dodor Bethany Marshall.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
When the trial occurred, we moved to Orlando for the
duration of the trial, and I had the twins with me.
Do you know how many times I wish now I
could have him at that age again, to you know,
take care of them, to love them, to brush their hair.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
To take them to fun places to go.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
And I think about this child in.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
A trash bag.
Speaker 18 (30:03):
Nancy Kaylee was only a pawn for Casey Anthony. Listen
to what she says on this TikTok. She's going to
be a legal advocate for her daughter. She's just using
her daughter to manipulate the public to garner sympathy. You
know why she was living with her parents, right, George
and Cindy. She was living with them because she relegated
the care of her daughter to the grandparents. And finally,
(30:26):
Cindy Anthony goes and sees a therapist, and the therapist
says to Cindy Anthony, you need to get your daughter
to start taking care of the granddaughter. That is what
precipitated all of this. At this Cindy came home and
said to Kaylee, to Casey, you need to start taking
care of Kaylee.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Well you know what happened. Then.
Speaker 18 (30:45):
Casey had only been using her daughter as a pawn
with her own grandparents. So as you used to say,
she could lie on the sofa, eat chips, go out
with other people, you know, just live the high life.
This little girl was only used by her mother. And
anybody who begins to watch those TikTok videos is going
to participate in that exploitation of a child.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Thank you, doctor Bethany. I managed to get myself together.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
One of the cardinal rules of trying a case or
analyzing a case is don't put yourself in the shoes
of the victim. And I just did that thinking about
my own children at that tender age. I had them
with me while I covered the Top Mom Ksey Anthony
trial and investigated it myself.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
But in the very latest Top.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Mom Casey Anthony's return to TikTok stardom.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
For any idiot that wants to pay for it.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Listen, for those of you who don't know, my name
is Kasey Anthony, my daughter is Kaylee Anthony. My parents
are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not about them.
This is not in response to anything that they have
said or done. That's not to say that I'm not
going to respond at some point to some of the
things that they have.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Said and done.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Oh yeah, I'm sure she's going to attack her parents
because she once she ride her daughter's corpse to Helen back,
then she'll have to find somebody else to attack, and
that would be George and Cindy.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
That is from at Casey.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Anthony Underscore substack, that's the new TikTok accounts.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And speaking of George, he passed a Polly Tom Mom.
Can't say that, listen. I didn't know where she was at, correct.
Speaker 16 (32:19):
That's all I'm asking. So the question again, did you
knowingly conceal Keaylly's wedlines.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
From our friends at any So the story went from
I don't know where Kelly is to oh, yeah, you
know what. I was taking a NAT with Kelly and
I woke up.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
She was gone, and I.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Started looking for her and the next thing I know,
my dad showed up and she was lifeless, drenched in water,
and I just went away and had sex with my
boyfriend for thirty one days. I thought everything was just
be fine. Well it went from that too. George Anthony
molested me and my daughter, and then he killed my
(32:59):
daughter to cover up the molestation. But there's another theory
as to why tot Mom hatched the molestation story.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Listen.
Speaker 19 (33:11):
Cindy Anthony claims in the new special on A and
E Casey Anthony's parents, the Light Detector Test, that the
reason her daughter, Casey Anthony accused her father of molestation
is because she found out that her father, George Anthony,
was the main witness to testify against her in front
of the grand jury, besides the Sheriff's Department detective. When
asked why he testified in front of the grand jury,
(33:32):
George Anthony says he believed his daughter, Casey Anthony belonged
in jail.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
What about that defense attorney Troy Slayton joining us out
of la You gave me this big song and dance
about the baby, but what about dragging your own father
through the mud. He got up and testified and subjected
himself to cross examination on all of her lies about
him molesting little Cally.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
She didn't.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
She sat there silent and watched hers be destroyed on
the stand, So it's okay with you that she drags
them through the mud as well. Suddenly, when she's on
trial for murder, Sheet remembers that her dad sex molested her.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Oh yes, she said her brother sex molested her too,
That she was molested and so was Cally. And the
whole reason.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Her father, a former cop, murdered Kelly is because he
was covering up molestation.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
On a two year old little girl. Is that okay
with you that she.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Drags down everybody around her and now she wants my money.
Speaker 12 (34:36):
Do we only respect a jury verdict when the verdict
comes out the way we want. I mean, I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Asking you about George. I'm asking you about George.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
You've already gotten on your soapbox about a verdict that
the jurors say they regret what I'm asking you about George,
dragging him through the mud.
Speaker 12 (34:56):
Dragging him through the mud. This is the jury believed
what she said. Obviously, the jury found that there was
Insufficiency's not.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
What they said. Well, they said they didn't understand cause
of dead.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I'm asking you about her changing story and then dragging
George through the mud.
Speaker 12 (35:15):
This wasn't where six people thought one thing and six
people thought another thing or.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
A going to address what she did to her father.
Maybe it was true.
Speaker 12 (35:25):
We don't know whether or not it was true.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Hey, hey, you better watch out Troy Slayton, because there
is something called oral slander defamation. It'll be a cold
day in ag double l that I stand by unless
somebody claim George molested anybody you're calling Casey Antelly.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
It may be true, not guilty.
Speaker 12 (35:49):
She has been exonerated by our criminal justice system, and
everybody here is branding her a murderer.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And now she's making money off her daughter's dead body
and is threatening to drag George and Cindy to hell
them back again.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Listen, can't you hear her? For Pete's sake?
Speaker 5 (36:08):
For those of you who don't know, my name is
Casey Anthony, my daughter is Kaylee Anthony.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
My parents are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not
about them.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
This is not in response to anything that they have
said or done. That's not to say that I'm not
going to respond at some point to some of the
things that they have said and done.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
TikTok at, Casey Anthony, underscore substant.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
Can you tell me a little bit. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
My daughter's been missing for the last thirty one days,
and you know who has her? I know who as
I've tried to contact her. I actually received a phone
call today now from a number that is no longer
in service. I did get to speak to my daughter
for thought a moment, about a minute.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Okay, did you guys call report a vehicle?
Speaker 6 (36:51):
So on?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
And yes, my mom did. Okay, Okay, so there's been
a vehicle so on too. No, this is my vehicle.
What be a core sword? It's a neat Pontiac sunfire.
Speaker 7 (37:07):
Okay. I have deputy's on the way to you right
now for that.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
But now you're now you're three old, three oldaughter is missing?
Kaylee Anthony kay white female? Yes, female, three years old,
eight nine day to birth. Yes, and you last saw
her a month ago. Thirty one Diggs from thirty one Diggs.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Todd.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I'm Casey Anthony rears her ugly head again, chewing out
VP Vance. Whether you agree with him or not about ice,
that's a whole other can of worms. I'm talking about
a dead baby. I'm talking about Kelly Anthony Todd. Mom
throws her dad and mom under the bus, chewing them out,
making them look bad at trial.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, look at them, don't look at me.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So she takes her a substack that she w out
other people as a quote legal advocate. That hurts, but
then parties hardy at a Palm Beach DJ party. The
DJ party was filmed and included in the Netflix show
Members Only Palm Beach episode four that follows five women
(38:30):
and I question, how the hey did top mom Casey
Anthony let get into the party? Okay, very very strict,
rs VP's there. Back to Kelly, what happened to that
little child? That's sweet, sweet little child.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
America. I mean I found out my grandsither had been
taking she has been missing for another third for mother.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
That she's been missed.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Okay, and he's talking about a four year old little girl.
My daughter finally admitted that the baby turns foor. I
need to find her.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
Your daughter admitted that your the baby is later, but it.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Tender took her month together that my daughter's been looking for.
I told you my daughter was missing for a month.
I just found her today that I can't find my granddaughter.
She just admitted to me that she's been trying to
find her herself. There's something wrong. I found my daughter's
car today and it's not like there's been a dead
daughter and it's the car.
Speaker 7 (39:37):
Okay, what is the three year old's name?
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Kaylee c A y l E E. Anthony, Kaylee Anthony? Yeah, okay?
Speaker 7 (39:46):
She wipe black? Her Hispanic?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
He's white.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
How long has she been missing for?
Speaker 4 (39:51):
I had not seen her since the seventh of June?
Speaker 11 (39:57):
My entire life for me? Do you understand how I feel?
I mean, do you really understand how I feel on this?
But I'm just as much of a victim as the
rest of you.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Oh, my stars, I'm just as much of a victim
as the rest of you. Speaking of all her lies
on George Rob Dick joining me Casey Anthony's former bodyguard
now owner Renegade Investigations, Rob Dick. Isn't it true that
after she was brought home the first time before she
was charged with murder, George Anthony physically attacked her, pushed
(40:33):
her up against the wall, demanding to know where's Kelly?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Isn't that true?
Speaker 12 (40:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (40:38):
I was obvious at that point. George had no idea
he wanted the answers he knew that something had happened
to his granddaughter and he grabbed her. He wanted the
answers what happened to Kelley?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
And this was in front of you as well as Cindy.
But at any time did she say, Dad, you had
her last.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Remember when you got her out of the pool after
you molested her. Did any of that happened, Rob Dick.
Speaker 16 (41:01):
She never brought up those issues until trial.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Listen to more of Top Mom in her new money
making venture as a proponent.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
For the LGBTQ community for legal community women's rates. I
feel that it's important that I use this platform that
was thrust upon me and now look at as a
blessing as opposed to the curse.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
That it has been since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Translation, I'm broke and I need beer money. Quick question,
Joe Scott Morgan, When is menopause?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Just tell me quick? When is minopause?
Speaker 8 (41:35):
It's variable depended upon the population and specific women. You
began to think about forty to fifty that time frame generally.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
So we're really not even close. She could still have
a baby.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
That's the only news that could be worse.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Right now, Tom Mom has her hand in my pocket
and everybody else is making money off her child. By
the way, that was from her TikTok account at Casey
Anthony Underscore substack. She could have another baby. It's possible.
Let's just all say a silent prayer that that doesn't happen. Okay,
Now more of top Mom and her money grab.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
As a proponent for the LGBTQ community, for legal community
women's rates, I feel that it's important that I use
this platform that was thrust upon me and now look
at as a blessing as opposed to the curse that it.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
Has been since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
A proponent for the LGBTQ community.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
What did they ask you to be their advocate?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
They have enough problems with people attacking them every day
just because of who they are.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Nothing more with friends like this, who needs an enemy?
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
They want you advocating for them, Tap Mom, What like
you advocated for your daughter, or your mother or your
father who you continue to take advantage of? That is
from a top Mom's TikTok account at Casey Anthony Underscore Substech.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
There's more. Listen.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
My goal is to continue to help give a voice
to people, to give people tools and resources that they
can utilize, so they actually know where they can turn to.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Now here is the woman.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Who is asking for your money talking about privacy. I've
never seen anything like it since Harry and Megan and
their worldwide Privacy tour.
Speaker 5 (43:34):
Listen, I will explain in great detail why it's so
important for people to protect their privacy. It's not just
important to public figures. It's even more important to private individuals.
And with the current climate in our country especially, it's
that much more important.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
The current climate.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I'm pretty sure, top mom, the current climate has always
been anti.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Murdering your child.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
That's from the official TikTok account at Casey Anthony underscore
subsect privacy. Let's see how maintain your privacy? Possibly don't
get in a bar fight.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
So you just need anser. Yeah, well, if you even
said that to me, I can say your product. Yeah no,
I haven't exceived for stuff like this.
Speaker 7 (44:20):
But i'm your file and restraining order.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
I didn't have enough stream I hadn't actually tax scene
was not enough, or showing up where I was.
Speaker 10 (44:30):
Was not enough.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
This is enough in.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Front of witnesses. I'll tell you why I taught mom.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Kasey Anthony didn't file a restraining order after that bar
fight from our friends at Channel six because nobody would
believe that she was the victim.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
There's more maintain privacy. Don't get in the bar fight again.
I apologize.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
I said, are prime ser val that I filmed her.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Here here as witnesses.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
So I'm not trying to file her training where I
just wanted to dollar and I don't want to trading
where at it for six months and you go away, Well, we'll.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Docoment and I'll putting as verbal dreads because you say
that she can call me out and you can tell
she threw on me.
Speaker 17 (45:27):
Along with her TikTok video, Casey Anthony announces her deal
with Substack, a subscription based service that allows writers and
podcasters to release material directly to subscribers. Subscriptions to Anthony's
Substack channel costs ten dollars a month or one hundred
dollars annually, although she offers free subscriptions with limited content.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
One hundred dollars for an annual subscription to tot Mom,
Casey Anthony's new TikTok Take a look at tot Mom's
Mother from our friends at Ana and to sit here
and listen to her, keep making different stories as it fits.
(46:08):
I'm sorry, doctor Bethany, why can't Cindy breathe?
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Right there, Cindy is having a panic attack.
Speaker 18 (46:19):
Her heart rate is elevated, She's overwhelmed. She can't think
because she is reminiscing about her granddaughter's death. She's having
intrusive thoughts and memories. She's thinking about that little girl
lying in a swamp.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
She's being interviewed. So when people have trauma.
Speaker 18 (46:37):
And they begin to talk about the original event, it
actually reactivates the trauma. It's as if they're in it. Nancy,
you've heard of the term flashback with people who have
post traumatic stress disorder. They have flashbacks. She is in
a flashback and George knows how to comfort her. You know,
this could have torn this couple apart, but they have
(46:59):
become more more and more solid over time. Unlike their daughter,
who's not bonded with the granddaughter, this couple is bonded
with each other and they care and love They care
for and love each other.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I just wonder what this new return.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Where top Mom rears her ugly head, most people would
run for the hills, as if they had seen a monster,
but apparently they're nearly three thousand subscribers as we go
to air. But this isn't her first money grab by far. Listen.
Speaker 14 (47:28):
In her ongoing effort to get a spotlight back on
her face, Casey Anthony is pitching a reality TV show
about her life. The proposals submitted on her behalf would
provide an intimate window into the daily life of one
of the most controversial women in America. The proposal says,
in each episode, Casey will go about her day working, socializing, dating.
(47:48):
She will share her thoughts and opinions, and will give
an intimate look into her world. One Hollywood executive who
passed on the pitch says he hopes someone has the
guts to pick it up. He wants to watch it
a reality show.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
In each episode, Top Mom goes about her day working, socializing,
and dating too. Shannon Butler are joining me WFTV Channel nine.
I can only imagine what this is doing to George
and Cindy Anthony the re emergence of Top Mom. She
says she will address her parents. She just released a
(48:21):
statement threatening people if they slander her or defame her.
I can only imagine what she's going to say about them.
Speaker 10 (48:29):
You know, we still see them from time to time.
They still live here, they still have their home, and
I think what people maybe forget about what happened to
George and Cindy. It wasn't just what happened during that,
but there were long lasting effects here. I mean, their
house was in foreclosure, They had a hard time, you know,
getting jobs. He was in a horrible, horrible car accident
(48:51):
a few years ago. A lot has happened to them,
and it is difficult even now when you see them,
you know, at the grocery store or at a restaurant,
to imagine what these folks are going through. And I
think for them, they're always bracing for the next thing.
I don't think that many people are surprised that she
has now re emerged. I think that was always going
(49:14):
to be the plan down the road. But I think
that they prepare themselves for whatever is going to come next,
because for them, it just seems to never ever end.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Let me remind everyone, as Troy Slayton has done so
tom im Casey Anthony was acquitted of murder. Of course,
the drors now say they regret that they were wrong,
but so what she was acquitted. But every time that
you subscribe or download her gibberish and lies, you're putting
(49:52):
another dollar in her pocket.
Speaker 7 (49:55):
Who have her do a name?
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Her name is Janaiva Fernando's goodallas, So is that baby?
She's been my nanny for about a year and a half,
almost two years.
Speaker 7 (50:12):
Why are you calling now? Why didn't you call thirty
one days ago?
Speaker 4 (50:16):
I have been looking for her and have gone through
other resources to try to find her, which was stupid.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
And other Top Mom Casey Anthony news looks like Top
Mama has snagged another man?
Speaker 3 (50:27):
What is he thinking?
Speaker 2 (50:30):
She was spotted wearing always include her outfits a sleeveless,
nearly backless black top.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
And jeans.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
At the Season's Tickets Bar.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Manchester, New Hampshire with a bearded man does her dinner date?
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Not know who he's eating with? I don't know. Maybe
some guys like that.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
I'm not really sure, but I want to revisit her
on her substack, claiming I am a legal advocate. I've
been in the legal field since twenty eleven. When you're
charged with murder, listen to Top Mom Casey Anthony on
her substack.
Speaker 5 (51:14):
I am a legal advocate. I am a researcher. I've
been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in
this capacity, I feel that it's necessary if I'm going
to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that
I start to advocate for myself and also advocate for
my daughter.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Aside from having dinner with unsuspecting men, ranting and preaching
from her substack, and attending DJ parties. Top Mom Casey
Anthony also took a few moments to curse out, stating,
if you to Megan Kelly about one of Megan Kelly's
(51:54):
podcast episodes, you would think at this point Hot Mom
would get it and go try to do something good
for the world.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
You know, volunteer somewhere, do something good.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
But no, that is not gonna happen. When you don't
know a horse, look at her track record. When you
don't know what someone's going to do, look at what
they've already done. We wait as just as unfolds for
Top Mom, Casey Anthony, Nancy Grace signing off, Little Kelly rested,
(52:32):
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