November 20, 2025 • 14 mins
Emerson talks about a scary incident and the 911 call that served as a wakeup call. Andrea recalls an on-set injury and the price she paid for not speaking up and Teri admits she has a hard time taking her own advice when it comes to asking for help.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, Welcome to Desperately Devoted, the Ultimate Desperate Housewives rewatch,
hosted by me, Terry Hatcher, my on screen daughter Andrea Bowen,
and my real life daughter Emerson Tenny.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So we have to talk a little bit more about
this particular episode, and I want to hone in on
what I think and I think we can all agree
is maybe one of the certainly one of the best
scenes of the first season of Desperate Housewives, but maybe
of the entire series, which is Lynette's big hallucination break
down at the kitchen sink where she sees at Mary
(00:34):
Alice appear and mary Alice extends her gun out to
her and she's having this moment that basically crescendos into
the broad theme of the episode, which is, gosh, is
it hard to ask for help from people? And so
I think there's a lot to talk about here.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah, I'm not good at asking for help. I'll just
start with that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But I feel like that's an I'm Terry Hatcher and
I'm not good at asking for help.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, I'm Terry Hatcher and I'm not good asking for help.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Ye, I did know, I mean episode eight Guilty.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I do think an alternate title for guilty could have
been I can't ask for help. But you know, actually,
as I say it, I'm like that, No, that would
be a bad title. And so they were right to
call episode eight guilty, and I'm glad that they did.
And I promise I am a fairly decent writer who
comes up with clever things sometimes. But I do think
I think it is really hard to ask for help
(01:26):
a mom. I totally see you struggle with asking for help,
especially as a single person who has, I would say,
as an outsider, an abundant well of resource in terms
of friends and family and people who are in your
corner and love you and champion you, but who you,
of your own admissions, say that you don't want.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
To burden by reaching out.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Tom, there's an interesting trick that I think I actually
talk to you about in regard to relationships.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Oh, I know what you're gonna say, and you did,
and I do think of this.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Should I say it?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Or do you want to say you said that you.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Can go ahead?
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Well, no, you say it, you gave the advice. You
say it.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Well, I remember when you were dating. I remember in
the beginning, and I remember saying to you that letting
other people feel needed is a very important quality of
a relationship.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So you like said this to me, Oh I do. Yeah, Oh,
this is great advice. I thought about it ever since
you told me it.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Wow, okay, well I have and what am I called?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
TV mom?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Thanks TV Mom for the great advice.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah. We went to dinner and you shared this with me,
and I thought it was really it has stuck with
me since and that.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Was years ago.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Oh well, thank you, And I do think it's true,
and I think about it like I think I still
have to work on this actually, which is asking for help.
Where you think it might be a weakness, you're actually
allowing that other person in your life to show up
in a way that makes them feel needed.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Well, I mean, I think one of the biggest ways
to strength and intimacy is to have the vulnerability to
let someone in and tell them what you need and
ask them for help. And as much as I am
saying that now and I really do believe it and
I try to practice it, it is still difficult. And
it's difficult in this industry. It's difficult in every industry.
(03:18):
But I think, speaking from my experience in the film industry,
I do. And I wonder if you relate to this,
Andrea or Mom. There is this kind of assumption, especially
when you were early on in your career, that you
are just supposed to know how to do things for
the first time. I'm thinking about when I first graduated
college and I moved back to la and it was
(03:39):
right in the beginning of the pandemic in twenty twenty,
and I was working as a tutor, and I was
like starting to write my first script, speckscript, and I
was looking for work, and I was looking for work
in the industry. And I had a friend of mine
who is a DP and he was working on this
non union, really random documentary that was shooting all of
(04:00):
the reenactments for the documentary between Vegas and reading California
and ready He's like North, it's like almost like clog. Yeah,
And they said, you know, we need a because it's
super low budget. We need like a PA who can
also drive a camera van and also do like COVID
testing and are you free and would you do this?
It's like a three week shoot. And I said, yeah, sure,
(04:22):
of course I'll do it. And then of course the
first thing I get is the gigantic camera van and
I in LA that I need to drive to Vegas
and then eventually drive from Vegas to Oregon basically, and
I was like, yeah, I can drive that, like i've
and I took the job.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
I drive. I made it in the van down to Vegas.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
We then have an excruciating week of only night shoots.
We wrap out after like a week and a half
of doing this and I am exhausted and I get
into this big, like twenty foot camera van that I'm
still not great at driving, and I plug in the
address for where we're going and reading. It was like
our day off, but it was a travel day, so
(05:03):
it wasn't really a day off. And I think it's
now like four thirty in the afternoon, and I plug
in the address for reading and it says it's gonna
take me sixteen hours to get there, and I started
crying in the car. I was like, I, there's no
way I'm gonna be like, I'm exhausted, I've been sleeping
no hours. There's no way I'm gonna be able to
drive this van there or but it would be safe. No,
(05:23):
And it certainly was not safe. And I but I'm
not asking anyone for help not admitting to anyone that
I didn't know how to drive this van.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Well, that I was exhausted because I'm like, well, what
am I supposed to do? I took this job. I
need to show up for it.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I need to deliver what I said I could deliver,
Like I'm getting paid. People are counting on me. The
camera equipment has to be there, so I make it
up there. I had like twelve hours to sleep, and
the next day I didn't have to drive the camera van,
but my job was again. Another night shoot was at
five am when they were like wrapping up. The night
shoot was to pick up talent in a mini van
(05:55):
a different car and drive them from the bar where
they were filming back to the hotel. And we're now
in Reading, California, really small, like dark streets. A lot
of streets have been closed, and all night that we'd
been filming, we'd been hearing this train. We were right
by these train tracks, and we've been hearing this train.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Go by and go by.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
And I am coming back from having dropped off the
first group of crews. I'm alone in the minivan and
I'm looking at the GPS, but I'm like trying to
figure out what ever, how to get there. A couple
of roads have been closed because now it's so late
at night, and it says, okay, make a left onto
railroad Avenue. And I see okay, Railroad Avenue, and I
go and I make a left and there was not
enough light, and instead of turning onto the street, I
(06:35):
turn onto the train track that I've just heard trains
going down, and I like immediately nuserk reaction, pressed on
the accelerator and the car sped further onto the train
tracks and lodged like perpendicular to the train tracks. And
I'm pressing on the gas and the wheels are spinning
because now I'm on the train tracks, so the car
(06:55):
is completely elevated, and I had this moment where I said,
oh my god, this is how people get hit by trains.
Like I'm pressing the gas. I know trains come down.
I can't get the car off the train tracks. And
I put on the hazards and I grabbed actually the
backpack with the hard drives in it, and I because
I'm such.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
A good oh my gosh, I gave the movie.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I threw up in the car door and I ran
off of the train tracks leaving the car there, and
I immediately called nine one one and they were able
to shut down the train before it came and hit
the car.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
It took all of that to get you to call
for help.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And I was like, God, I need to be better
about admitting when I'm in over my head.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Wow, because I almost just got hit by train.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Oh my god, what is the scariest way? You never
asked for help?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh gosh, Well, this shows up in my life in
all kinds of ways. But listening to Emerson's story and
then thinking about it in the context of work, I
have definitely felt like I need to be better at
asking for help in work environments. I've touched on this.
I prided myself and I've throughout my life of being
so prepared and so capable, you know, and that started
(08:12):
from being young.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, and it's an industry where maybe not now so much,
but twenty years ago. I mean I showed up after
having a miscarriage, I showed up with one hundred and
three fever. I showed up having pneumonia, right like you basically.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Must go on.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Yeah, that's what we're taught.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Honestly.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, it still is like that. Maybe an intelliged in
different language, but it's still like that.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Yeah, And an example of that in my career.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And I laugh about it now because there was so
many funny things that came out of this particular experience.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
But I did. I was a guest star on the
show The Ghost Whisper.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I remember that show, yes, And I had a great
experience in terms of, you know, working with everyone in
the cast and the role I had initially auditioned for
I didn't get and instead they they offered me what
they said was the better role. They were like, oh,
this is that You're now the featured ghost of the episode,
you know, and so we were like, okay, great, And
then I showed up to set and my in my
(09:06):
trailer as a part of my costume was a burlap
sack and we were confused as to what that was
and they were like, that's to go on your head.
And then I realized that for the majority of the episode,
I had a burlap sack on my head.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
So that's this is.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I know.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
So that's a different story, but very funny. And then
as the Ghost Whisper arc of the ghost in.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
The episode, does you find out their backstory and you
find out how they died. And my particular character had
died in a sorority hazing ritual where she had to
wear a sack on her head and horrible. Yeah, yeah, okay,
And we were filming an Angela's Crest National Forest out
here in LA and what happens is that she has
this thing on her head and then she ends up
falling off of a cliff and kind of getting tangled
(09:49):
with the tree and the sack and she hangs herself
and and so that's the story of.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
How my ghost characters died.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
So to do this, we had to do a kind
of a stunt. They put me up on a crane.
They had a crane, you know, working, and they were
gonna suspend me, and they did this, and because I
didn't want to be difficult and I didn't want to
challenge anyone, I just went along with this stunt that
shouldn't I should not have performed, probably, but it wasn't
(10:18):
set up correctly, and so I ended up losing my
voice for several weeks after the episode and having some
kind of like damn minor but present cord damage and
visible bruising around my neck, which I showed up to
work on desperate housals because I was filming at the
same time, and our makeup and hair people were like,
what happened to your neck?
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Like why do you have bruises on your neck?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And I told them this story and they were horrified
that I, you know, that that happened to me. But
then also it was like, why didn't you say anything?
And not that it was my fault. No one was
insinuating it was my fault. But it really was a
lesson of like it's okay to say, hey, this is uncomfortable.
Hey I need someone to come help me, I don't
feel safe or whatever. I didn't, and you know, I'm
(11:02):
obviously fine, but but it was a lesson that stuck
with me, and I've tried, really do try to be
better now and I certainly like to spread the message
to other actors and younger actors that you really need
to advocate for yourself and asking for help is a
form of a great form of advocating for us.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
A very short story that happened to me a thousand
years ago, but I won't.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Ever forget it.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I pulled up at within a taxi at the George Sank,
which is like the fanciest hotel in Paris, and I
was by myself and the you know, the the valet
guy from the hotel, you know, comes out, and the
taxi's opening the thing. This is pre uber and and
you know, the taxi guy gets the luggage out and
(11:49):
the man says, you know, can I get your luggage
for you? And I was like, oh no, that's okay,
I've got it myself. And he says to me, if
you don't let anyone and help you, no one ever will. Wow.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Okay, Guardian angel VALI.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Now I know why they charge so much for that
hotel because it comes with advice.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
It comes with advice.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, that was that stuck with me. But you know,
it's still it's still hard and I and I and
I circle back to I believe it's hard for us
to ask for help because it's hard for us to
admit that we can't do everything, because that challenges our
own value. And I think we mistakenly sort of settle
(12:35):
in this place of associating our value with independence, and
that's where we go off the train tracks. We go
off right there at the connection between value and doing
it all by yourself. And I would argue that value
is elevated by being vulnerable enough to ask for help,
(12:56):
that that actually makes you more powerful. Yeah, that you
can do that.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And honestly, we also don't know what asking for help
can lead to. I mean, we see even in this
same episode eight with Rex and Brie when they agree
to finally help each other dispose of Andrew's car. However, could,
like you know, morally questionable. That may be it's this
act of working together that is potentially going to maybe
(13:24):
open the door for saving their marriage. And I do
think there is there's so much strength that can come
out of allowing ourselves to say.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
I can't do this alone.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I feel like I feel like this is a really
good example of where our three generations are make things
really obvious, because I feel like my generation, my mother's generation,
we did not ask for help, We did not say
what was happening. We just we put up and shove
up and carried on like that that was me. And
I feel like your generation at least was having like
(14:00):
the awareness of it, the the ability to sort of
start to shift. And I feel like you are your
generation is really in a place where you're like, we're
not taking it anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And you know, this episode, just to wrap it all
up with a bow, made me think of a beautiful
quote from the amazing My Angelou and I think we
should leave it with this, which is she said, when
we give cheerfully and accept gratefully, everyone is blessed.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Ah and I love bos.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
There you go and Maya Angelou.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Yeah, we're just so devoted to My Angela.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
We are, and we're desperately devoted to you. So come
back next week for for more, for more taps,
Hi, Welcome to Desperately Devoted, the Ultimate Desperate Housewives rewatch,
hosted by me, Terry Hatcher, my on screen daughter Andrea Bowen,
and my real life daughter Emerson Tenny.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So we have to talk a little bit more about
this particular episode, and I want to hone in on
what I think and I think we can all agree
is maybe one of the certainly one of the best
scenes of the first season of Desperate Housewives, but maybe
of the entire series, which is Lynette's big hallucination break
down at the kitchen sink where she sees at Mary
(00:34):
Alice appear and mary Alice extends her gun out to
her and she's having this moment that basically crescendos into
the broad theme of the episode, which is, gosh, is
it hard to ask for help from people? And so
I think there's a lot to talk about here.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah, I'm not good at asking for help. I'll just
start with that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But I feel like that's an I'm Terry Hatcher and
I'm not good at asking for help.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, I'm Terry Hatcher and I'm not good asking for help.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Ye, I did know, I mean episode eight Guilty.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I do think an alternate title for guilty could have
been I can't ask for help. But you know, actually,
as I say it, I'm like that, No, that would
be a bad title. And so they were right to
call episode eight guilty, and I'm glad that they did.
And I promise I am a fairly decent writer who
comes up with clever things sometimes. But I do think
I think it is really hard to ask for help
(01:26):
a mom. I totally see you struggle with asking for help,
especially as a single person who has, I would say,
as an outsider, an abundant well of resource in terms
of friends and family and people who are in your
corner and love you and champion you, but who you,
of your own admissions, say that you don't want.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
To burden by reaching out.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Tom, there's an interesting trick that I think I actually
talk to you about in regard to relationships.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Oh, I know what you're gonna say, and you did,
and I do think of this.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Should I say it?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Or do you want to say you said that you.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Can go ahead?
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Well, no, you say it, you gave the advice. You
say it.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Well, I remember when you were dating. I remember in
the beginning, and I remember saying to you that letting
other people feel needed is a very important quality of
a relationship.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So you like said this to me, Oh I do. Yeah, Oh,
this is great advice. I thought about it ever since
you told me it.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Wow, okay, well I have and what am I called?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
TV mom?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Thanks TV Mom for the great advice.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah. We went to dinner and you shared this with me,
and I thought it was really it has stuck with
me since and that.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Was years ago.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Oh well, thank you, And I do think it's true,
and I think about it like I think I still
have to work on this actually, which is asking for help.
Where you think it might be a weakness, you're actually
allowing that other person in your life to show up
in a way that makes them feel needed.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Well, I mean, I think one of the biggest ways
to strength and intimacy is to have the vulnerability to
let someone in and tell them what you need and
ask them for help. And as much as I am
saying that now and I really do believe it and
I try to practice it, it is still difficult. And
it's difficult in this industry. It's difficult in every industry.
(03:18):
But I think, speaking from my experience in the film industry,
I do. And I wonder if you relate to this,
Andrea or Mom. There is this kind of assumption, especially
when you were early on in your career, that you
are just supposed to know how to do things for
the first time. I'm thinking about when I first graduated
college and I moved back to la and it was
(03:39):
right in the beginning of the pandemic in twenty twenty,
and I was working as a tutor, and I was
like starting to write my first script, speckscript, and I
was looking for work, and I was looking for work
in the industry. And I had a friend of mine
who is a DP and he was working on this
non union, really random documentary that was shooting all of
(04:00):
the reenactments for the documentary between Vegas and reading California
and ready He's like North, it's like almost like clog. Yeah,
And they said, you know, we need a because it's
super low budget. We need like a PA who can
also drive a camera van and also do like COVID
testing and are you free and would you do this?
It's like a three week shoot. And I said, yeah, sure,
(04:22):
of course I'll do it. And then of course the
first thing I get is the gigantic camera van and
I in LA that I need to drive to Vegas
and then eventually drive from Vegas to Oregon basically, and
I was like, yeah, I can drive that, like i've
and I took the job.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
I drive. I made it in the van down to Vegas.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
We then have an excruciating week of only night shoots.
We wrap out after like a week and a half
of doing this and I am exhausted and I get
into this big, like twenty foot camera van that I'm
still not great at driving, and I plug in the
address for where we're going and reading. It was like
our day off, but it was a travel day, so
(05:03):
it wasn't really a day off. And I think it's
now like four thirty in the afternoon, and I plug
in the address for reading and it says it's gonna
take me sixteen hours to get there, and I started
crying in the car. I was like, I, there's no
way I'm gonna be like, I'm exhausted, I've been sleeping
no hours. There's no way I'm gonna be able to
drive this van there or but it would be safe. No,
(05:23):
And it certainly was not safe. And I but I'm
not asking anyone for help not admitting to anyone that
I didn't know how to drive this van.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Well, that I was exhausted because I'm like, well, what
am I supposed to do? I took this job. I
need to show up for it.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I need to deliver what I said I could deliver,
Like I'm getting paid. People are counting on me. The
camera equipment has to be there, so I make it
up there. I had like twelve hours to sleep, and
the next day I didn't have to drive the camera van,
but my job was again. Another night shoot was at
five am when they were like wrapping up. The night
shoot was to pick up talent in a mini van
(05:55):
a different car and drive them from the bar where
they were filming back to the hotel. And we're now
in Reading, California, really small, like dark streets. A lot
of streets have been closed, and all night that we'd
been filming, we'd been hearing this train. We were right
by these train tracks, and we've been hearing this train.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Go by and go by.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
And I am coming back from having dropped off the
first group of crews. I'm alone in the minivan and
I'm looking at the GPS, but I'm like trying to
figure out what ever, how to get there. A couple
of roads have been closed because now it's so late
at night, and it says, okay, make a left onto
railroad Avenue. And I see okay, Railroad Avenue, and I
go and I make a left and there was not
enough light, and instead of turning onto the street, I
(06:35):
turn onto the train track that I've just heard trains
going down, and I like immediately nuserk reaction, pressed on
the accelerator and the car sped further onto the train
tracks and lodged like perpendicular to the train tracks. And
I'm pressing on the gas and the wheels are spinning
because now I'm on the train tracks, so the car
(06:55):
is completely elevated, and I had this moment where I said,
oh my god, this is how people get hit by trains.
Like I'm pressing the gas. I know trains come down.
I can't get the car off the train tracks. And
I put on the hazards and I grabbed actually the
backpack with the hard drives in it, and I because
I'm such.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
A good oh my gosh, I gave the movie.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I threw up in the car door and I ran
off of the train tracks leaving the car there, and
I immediately called nine one one and they were able
to shut down the train before it came and hit
the car.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
It took all of that to get you to call
for help.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And I was like, God, I need to be better
about admitting when I'm in over my head.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Wow, because I almost just got hit by train.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Oh my god, what is the scariest way? You never
asked for help?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh gosh, Well, this shows up in my life in
all kinds of ways. But listening to Emerson's story and
then thinking about it in the context of work, I
have definitely felt like I need to be better at
asking for help in work environments. I've touched on this.
I prided myself and I've throughout my life of being
so prepared and so capable, you know, and that started
(08:12):
from being young.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, and it's an industry where maybe not now so much,
but twenty years ago. I mean I showed up after
having a miscarriage, I showed up with one hundred and
three fever. I showed up having pneumonia, right like you basically.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Must go on.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Yeah, that's what we're taught.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Honestly.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, it still is like that. Maybe an intelliged in
different language, but it's still like that.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Yeah, And an example of that in my career.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And I laugh about it now because there was so
many funny things that came out of this particular experience.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
But I did. I was a guest star on the
show The Ghost Whisper.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I remember that show, yes, And I had a great
experience in terms of, you know, working with everyone in
the cast and the role I had initially auditioned for
I didn't get and instead they they offered me what
they said was the better role. They were like, oh,
this is that You're now the featured ghost of the episode,
you know, and so we were like, okay, great, And
then I showed up to set and my in my
(09:06):
trailer as a part of my costume was a burlap
sack and we were confused as to what that was
and they were like, that's to go on your head.
And then I realized that for the majority of the episode,
I had a burlap sack on my head.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
So that's this is.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I know.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
So that's a different story, but very funny. And then
as the Ghost Whisper arc of the ghost in.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
The episode, does you find out their backstory and you
find out how they died. And my particular character had
died in a sorority hazing ritual where she had to
wear a sack on her head and horrible. Yeah, yeah, okay,
And we were filming an Angela's Crest National Forest out
here in LA and what happens is that she has
this thing on her head and then she ends up
falling off of a cliff and kind of getting tangled
(09:49):
with the tree and the sack and she hangs herself
and and so that's the story of.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
How my ghost characters died.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
So to do this, we had to do a kind
of a stunt. They put me up on a crane.
They had a crane, you know, working, and they were
gonna suspend me, and they did this, and because I
didn't want to be difficult and I didn't want to
challenge anyone, I just went along with this stunt that
shouldn't I should not have performed, probably, but it wasn't
(10:18):
set up correctly, and so I ended up losing my
voice for several weeks after the episode and having some
kind of like damn minor but present cord damage and
visible bruising around my neck, which I showed up to
work on desperate housals because I was filming at the
same time, and our makeup and hair people were like,
what happened to your neck?
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Like why do you have bruises on your neck?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And I told them this story and they were horrified
that I, you know, that that happened to me. But
then also it was like, why didn't you say anything?
And not that it was my fault. No one was
insinuating it was my fault. But it really was a
lesson of like it's okay to say, hey, this is uncomfortable.
Hey I need someone to come help me, I don't
feel safe or whatever. I didn't, and you know, I'm
(11:02):
obviously fine, but but it was a lesson that stuck
with me, and I've tried, really do try to be
better now and I certainly like to spread the message
to other actors and younger actors that you really need
to advocate for yourself and asking for help is a
form of a great form of advocating for us.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
A very short story that happened to me a thousand
years ago, but I won't.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Ever forget it.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I pulled up at within a taxi at the George Sank,
which is like the fanciest hotel in Paris, and I
was by myself and the you know, the the valet
guy from the hotel, you know, comes out, and the
taxi's opening the thing. This is pre uber and and
you know, the taxi guy gets the luggage out and
(11:49):
the man says, you know, can I get your luggage
for you? And I was like, oh no, that's okay,
I've got it myself. And he says to me, if
you don't let anyone and help you, no one ever will. Wow.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Okay, Guardian angel VALI.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Now I know why they charge so much for that
hotel because it comes with advice.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
It comes with advice.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, that was that stuck with me. But you know,
it's still it's still hard and I and I and
I circle back to I believe it's hard for us
to ask for help because it's hard for us to
admit that we can't do everything, because that challenges our
own value. And I think we mistakenly sort of settle
(12:35):
in this place of associating our value with independence, and
that's where we go off the train tracks. We go
off right there at the connection between value and doing
it all by yourself. And I would argue that value
is elevated by being vulnerable enough to ask for help,
(12:56):
that that actually makes you more powerful. Yeah, that you
can do that.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And honestly, we also don't know what asking for help
can lead to. I mean, we see even in this
same episode eight with Rex and Brie when they agree
to finally help each other dispose of Andrew's car. However, could,
like you know, morally questionable. That may be it's this
act of working together that is potentially going to maybe
(13:24):
open the door for saving their marriage. And I do
think there is there's so much strength that can come
out of allowing ourselves to say.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
I can't do this alone.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I feel like I feel like this is a really
good example of where our three generations are make things
really obvious, because I feel like my generation, my mother's generation,
we did not ask for help, We did not say
what was happening. We just we put up and shove
up and carried on like that that was me. And
I feel like your generation at least was having like
(14:00):
the awareness of it, the the ability to sort of
start to shift. And I feel like you are your
generation is really in a place where you're like, we're
not taking it anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And you know, this episode, just to wrap it all
up with a bow, made me think of a beautiful
quote from the amazing My Angelou and I think we
should leave it with this, which is she said, when
we give cheerfully and accept gratefully, everyone is blessed.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Ah and I love bos.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
There you go and Maya Angelou.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Yeah, we're just so devoted to My Angela.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
We are, and we're desperately devoted to you. So come
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