April 18, 2026 • 25 mins
It sounds crazy, but it’s time to start preparing for Fall Rush.
Bachelorette Trista Sutter, an Alpha Chi Omega, joins this episode and has advice for you in the rush process that could change the game for you!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with
your hosts me Gia Jude.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hi, guys, welcome back to
another episode of Dirty Rush.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I am your host Jenniferfessler, and I am joined by
Jia Jude.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Today we have a very special guest.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
She made history as the very first bachelorette and it's
basically Indiana University Royalty, our friend Trista Sutter. Hi, Hi, guys,
thank you so much for joining g and I we are.
I'm always so happy to see you. You're just like,
here's my breath of I don't know everything good, but.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Anyway, so with you guys.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Warmer weather is coming and that can only mean one
thing that rush season is around the corner. So today
we are diving into the ultimate rush dues and don't
breaking down what to do, what to avoid, everything in between.
So let's get into it. So we have heard to
do certain things in April if you want to join
(01:04):
a sorority, right, So, Gia.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, So when I had a rush, I actually rushed
first semester and basically the only requirement that we had
to have was a good GPA and I really don't
remember if I did have to have a resume, but
(01:29):
if anything, then that was just my resume from high
school that I used while applying to college, So basically
anything that I was involved in in high school, which
was you know, the Make a Wish Foundation, Saint Jude's Foundation,
kind of any like foundation or clubs that you were
involved with in high school that.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Could better your chance of getting into your sorority. Right, And.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
But yeah, I had the GPA. A lot of my
friends didn't, so I I kind of wanted to rush
alone with only a couple people.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
That I knew. But it was super fun, long days.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But it was also exciting because well, as a freshman,
it's like, you want to get involved somewhat in a
big school.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Did you feel like, I mean, now it sounds like
you have to have these things done right if you
want to join authorty and you have to do them
in high school, which to me is just complete insanity.
Like they say, now there's all these these all this
advice about you have to finish up your social resume
right even if you don't have your GPA, and you
put it on the college's Facebook groups and Instagrams and
(02:38):
make sure your social media is cleaned up. This is
all before you even start the process.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
This is a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, I don't think it was nearly as intense as
it is now, but I could, like I could predict
that obviously any sorority who had interest in me probably
did look at my socials. So obviously I would say
to any girl who's thinking about rushing, and if you're underage,
(03:08):
do not post with alcohol bottles or don't maybe post like,
don't post vulgar things if you want to get into
like one of the top sororities. So they definitely do
a background check on you. I think that's pretty.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Standard, and they just see and.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Judge you based off of your social media if they
want you to.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Be in the sorority.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And then when they meet you in person, I guess
that solidifies it all.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Trusty, you didn't have this right, We didn't have this girl.
Social media wasn't even right, right. I always say, you're so,
you're you're younger than I am, tristed, but like, yeah,
like that wasn't.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I mean, not by much.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I'm fifty three, so I you know, no, we didn't
have to worry about this. You you get through high school,
you're enjoying your senior year, You're you're finishing up, you're graduating,
you're doing all the exciting things, right, and then you
go to college and then you worry about rush. Then
maybe you were asking for letters of recommendation, but you
(04:11):
weren't doing any of the things that I'm hearing about
as I'm saying, I have a friend who who was
going like literally going to visit with the sorority leaders,
like or the girls in the sorority that she knew,
or any contacts like this past fall or maybe even
(04:32):
like the winter of their of their senior year. So
if they know that they want to rush a particular sorority,
they are having.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
To go visit.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
And and she's going you don't even know if ye
do you know? Well, I think she may have already
been admitted, because I think she was early decision.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
But where, but she's going.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
She's going to Alabama and she and obviously Biama has
like a really intense rush, right, so she was like
all about it. She knows the stories that she wants.
She was going, this is Colorado to Alabama. It's not
like it's close. You know, She's taking plane flights to go,
you know, to males and do all these kind of
(05:16):
social things. They're going to lunches, they're going out there,
like you have to be on and it is during
your senior year.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So I'm sorry you guys. I think that's so it's crazy.
I don't mean to be like extremely, but like, give
me a break.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Your senior in high school, you're trying to enjoy You've
now you had to go through four years of high school,
which is like the worst thing ever, right, I mean
not for everyone, but like some people.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Gee, I think you had a great high school experience whatever.
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, I mean, senior year was probably one of the
best years of my life.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Okay. Also, my senior year.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Of high school, I definitely was not thinking about what
I would be doing for Rush going into Rutgers. So
it's kind of crazy that a lot of the you
know that a lot of the seniors who are graduating
and you know, they're excited for graduation and going to
college now have to think about their Rush resumes in April.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I think it's awful.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Like, I think it's a bit much, And I mean
I just saw a Rush resume.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
An example of one.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It was this woman Ashley Journ again and they look
really intense. It literally looks like you're applying for a job.
I mean, you have to put a headshot. It almost
looks like a modeling portfolio. I mean I didn't yeah
those when I was younger, but it's basically a standard
piece of paper with your headshot, your education, your major,
(06:43):
like anything that you did in extracurriculars for high school,
like your business accomplishments.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
It just so, I mean, in case you weren't anxious
enough about starting college, yeah, and about it, and you
you weren't like you weren't busy enough applying and getting
in all of your applications and your test and now
you have to put together a resume.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
It's too much, in my lie.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It does seem like a lot of pressure. I mean, regardless,
it's pretty standard though for for most students at least
when they are applying to college. You kind of do
have to put up a resume. I mean I have
one that is saved like from high school that I
did apply to schools with, so I mean you can
(07:27):
just use that and you know, hope for the best.
But just a word of advice my opinion, and I
mean just because I have younger sisters. I think being
involved in high school, regardless if you're planning on joining
a sorority or not, is very beneficial while applying to college.
Just to show that you are involved in that you
(07:49):
were involved in, you know, any clubs or extracurricular activities,
I think that's always a plus.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It probably is. I mean I'm not saying it's.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Not, you know, and if you were like you know,
student council in high school, like all of that stuff,
like I think helps while applying to college.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Not saying that's gonna get you in.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
But I guess now sororites are requiring a resume, which
that was not the case for me.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
But I just say, copy and paste the one that
you sent to your colleges and you should be fine.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I feel like you have to like actually make it
look super cutesy and like very feminine, do you know
what I mean, like as opposed to like a professional resume.
I know that the girl the ones that I've received
for writing letters or recommendation for Alpha I was an
Alpha Kai for Alpha Kai, they have like I feel
(08:43):
like I saved it because I wanted to remember what
it looked like when I was receiving letters of recommendations,
so that when Blakesley goes through it, she's a junior
this year in high school, when she goes through it,
I knew what to put together.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
But it was like she.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Had her monogram on the on the envelope, are on
the folder of the outside, and then she had an adorable,
you know, little headshot, and then it was like all
cute colors and it may have even been I think
one of them was applied to Clemson, and so she
had like the Clemson colors. So you have to, like,
I mean, it really takes a lot of effort and
(09:20):
energy these days to just like not only apply to
the college, which is so stressful, but apply to essentially
apply to be part of rush and and and put
your best face forward.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
It's just a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I mean, now now that you say that, now that
I'm looking at this woman, she you know, put an
example up of what a resume should look like.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
It does look very gurly.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, right. Doesn't that depend on the sorority.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I mean, hopefully they are enough toted out there for
girls that are not you know, yes gurly or whatever
me right, right.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
But I just feel like for these it was very southern,
you know what I mean, like very southern sorority, like
very the monograms and you know, all of the things,
and definitely that doesn't have to be everywhere. But I
just feel like it's just the effort, you know, there's
just a lot of effort that needs to be put
into them.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Gia.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You just mentioned this woman Ashley or these different pages
crush my rush and uh what are the other there
are some other ones at the sorority, Sister, and I'm
sure they're doing God's work and I'm you know, I'm
sure that they are helping girls everywhere.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
But but then this also like goes back to like
these women are also probably rush coaches, which again I
think is just crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Gea.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
We interviewed them, remember at the Black Governors. I want
to say our first pod, you're interviewing rush coaches.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, like, go in be yourself. I don't think it
needs to be that much pressure. Sure, if you want
to put a little more effort into your resume, but
I don't think you need to be coached on how
to be yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Well that's when we talked to these coaches about that.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Okay, so I have a friend who I went to
Indiana with. I was a red stepper with her and
she was a kyo and she started what.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Is a red stepper?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Sorry, I can't let go. What is a red stepper?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Jen?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I love you?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
It was like the we danced at the football game.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Of course, of course you were a red stepper. Why
doesn't that surprise me for one second?
Speaker 5 (11:44):
So anyway, she started a curdy rush business where she
coaches people. She teaches people how to apply, how to
get in, what to do, what not to do, like
literally all of these things she's telling people.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
To to do.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
It's a huge, huge business and people pay for it
because they feel like this is what they have to
be doing in college. If they don't get into a sorority,
then they're not going to have a good college experience.
Like that's that for some people, that's what they think, right, Yeah,
I want I want to bring her on or like
(12:23):
connect her to you guys and crush my crush my
rush actually sounds like the name of the business that
she started, but I don't know if that's it.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I'm we had interviewed a couple of these women again,
that was like our first pod and I remember afterwards,
probably it was very nice to me, but I was like,
give me a business.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh, it's my friend Jen Caravetta.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
So we went to iun that is her, that's her company,
crush My Rush.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
That's mystical.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
What a guy crush my Rush.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
And I'm sure that she again is doing good work.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
But I remember GA after we'd interviewed these people, they
were charging thousands of dollars and it was.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Like, it's like minimum at least it was like a
five thousand dollars flat fee. And I mean people also
pay that money for college advisors, where in that sense,
I think college advisors are super, super helpful, Like I
had one. They helped, so did Rachel tremendously, Like I
could not stand on that more, but.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
To pay an extra five thousand the way.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
If you think that if Rachel Fessler came to me
before she started at the University of Delaware her senior
year and said, Mommy, I need five thousand dollars for
a rush, Get thee out of here, you crazy, it's.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
A little too much.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I just feel like even if I said that to
my mom, just because she didn't do a sorority, she
didn't rush. She just you know, she went to a
local school and got her so see its degree, there
wasn't she wasn't allowed to go far. So if I
you know, I think it's for the parents who don't
know what it is and then for their children to
(14:11):
like ask them, oh, Mom, like you know, going into
this new chapter of my life, would I be able
to get a rush coach?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I really feel like my mom would say yes.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Because she would be like, like, she doesn't know.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
What age one clear, Like okay, you.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Know the same thing with a college advisor. My mom
was like okay, girls, like if you guys need one,
no problem. But now obviously like I'm the first. If
I were to ask her for a rush coach, I
really do think she would have been like okay, because
she would have wanted me to have the.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Best college experience.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
But trickling down to my other sisters, I would look
at my mom and be like, absolutely not, they do
not need one, like.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
This screen it up for Adriana or yeah, all of
them screw well.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I think it.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Also depends on the school that you go to, because
there are schools like the Southern schools that are like
the Florida schools and all of those schools. It's so competitive,
so who are are fully invested and honestly, legacies don't
matter anymore, Like I forget that it actually works against you.
(15:18):
So like these ladies who are like, oh, my daughter
will be fine. I was a coio, I was an
efflicate whatever. You cannot rely on that anymore because I
think they actually hold it against you. So I think
that this business. When I heard that my friend that
Jen was doing, crushed my rush. I was like, I
want to be involved, Like what a great idea to
help these girls. And if people are gonna pay, they're
(15:41):
gonna pay, you know, if they want, you know, like, hey,
I gave Jen all the props. If you don't want
to use it, you don't want to use it. But
I think that she does a really good job. Of course,
can't guarantee that she's gonna be able to get you
into a sorority, but she's gonna help you, you know,
to be able to put.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Your best foot forward.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
The only thing where I say it could be beneficial
is if you are not the most maybe outgoing person,
and if talking to new people scares you or intimidates you.
That is where I could only see it being beneficial.
But if you are somebody who is super outgoing, can
hold a conversation and you know, really really enjoys getting
(16:38):
to know people and being bubbly, and you know you
don't burn out quickly because Russia, Russia is really long days.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Then I think that you know, going the lengths.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Of getting a rush coach and following up with how
to be taught to kind of be during Rush.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I think it's a bit much.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
But if you are some who is a little shy
and does have trouble getting to know new people and
being as social.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Then I understand it. I use that it all depends
on the person.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And I know that it's important.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I know that that the sorority that you get into
definitely affects your four years, right and not. So I
don't want to like minimize the importance of it. And
if you have the money and you're anxious and you
can do it for yourself or your parents can help
you with it, great. I just know here in the
Fessler household, I don't give a shit that she needed
(17:32):
it or not. I wasn't hiring a five thousand dollars
rush code, so I'm not that good of a mother.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
But like, I mean, yeah, I mean also if you
have it, if you're within the means to do it, sure,
but do I think it's.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
A necessary thing to do.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
No.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Also, your personality and who you are as a person,
you are going to gravitate towards those girls as you rush,
So that'll also all fall into place when the time comes,
I hope.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
So I just feel like I have heard so many
horror stories of people that are they're great girls, great personalities,
super cute, great families. You know, they're academically excellent, you know,
they've done really well in school, and still they have
issues because of all of the things that the sororities
(18:24):
require you to do these days. And that's like, I mean,
I've I've heard so much as you have to have
this bag, you have to have this belt, you have
to have you know, all of these things, and they're
like if you don't, oh you're out.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
What Like it's I don't think it's as easy as
it was. Not easy as not the word, but it
was I think more innocent back in the day when
you could actually just show up and be like, Hi,
I'm Trista. It's so nice to meet you and like
show off your personality and that's how you got into
a sorority, that that was what it was about, because
(19:02):
it should be about if you click with the girls,
if you have the same vision and values in all
of that. But I don't know that it's it's like
that because I because it's kind of on my radar
for the future. I've been paying attention, and I think
it's too bad that a lot of it seems to be,
(19:22):
you know, more focused on superficial stuff and stuff that
you like have to have instead of who you are.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah. See, that was not the case for me at all.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
And I went to Rutgers University Big ten school and
that was just not my experience. I mean, my sister
Gabriella recently also just rushed. She's a junior, so she
rushed her freshman year at the University of Michigan again,
another Big ten and Michigan blows Rutgers out of the
(19:55):
water with just like how intense and fun the school is,
you know, school spirit, the whole nine yards. And she
did not have that experience either. I think good when
it comes to the materialistic things an aspect of it,
I really think it targets those Southern schools, which is sad,
(20:17):
but you know, in a school like Alabama, I think
some of the sororities really do target that, and I
think it is sad because it does put a lot
of pressure on the girls. And Alabama it's a great school.
It's so fun, like Greek life is a huge part
of it. But I think it does put a lot
(20:38):
of pressure, and I think the pressure is really high
with schools in the South.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, they also talked about having rush.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Bags, and I don't know if your daughter is looking
into that, but rush bags are basically just like a
bag of goodies that you hold around with you all
day to kind of keep you afloat.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I mean when I was rushing, sure.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I had a granola bar in it, maybe a powder
puff with some powder, my water, and just little things
to get me through the day, deodorant, perfume. But the
bag didn't have to be anything crazy, just was like,
you know, a little toe bag to like walk around
with and store your things in. But I don't know,
(21:24):
I think it gets a little crazy where they're like
stock up. I mean, I do think a bag is
important to carry mint if your shoes hurt in between
walking from house to house, a hair brush, little makeup,
stuff like a snack, water. But I don't think the
bag should matter. I think you should just have like
the things you need to fuel you throughout the day.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
But are they saying that you have to have like
a certain type of bag, Like what's the tell me
about the rush bag, because.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I don't think so. The rush bag.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I mean when I rushed, when I, you know, and
my sister's rushed, it's literally just a bag of little essentials.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
That you need to get you throughout your day.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So obviously you're talking all day, you want to stock
up with some mince or gum in case, like you know,
it just happens sometimes when you're talking all day, I.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Have fresh breath, Yeah, yes, sure.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Then some comfy shoes because typically when you are rushing,
you want to put on like a little kitten heel
or a heel when you're rushing, So just to carry around,
some sandals or slippers to slip on between houses. Then
a hair brush if you want obviously to fix your hair,
some makeup, a mini fan, especially if you go to
(22:39):
a school like that's really hot, just to keep you cool. Water, bottles,
some snacks like deodor and perfume, just to keep you
prepared throughout your day.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I also don't think they have a standard on what
the bag needs to look like.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I really hope not.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Okay, but I think it's just like a little toe
bag that you keep around.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I think you packed, you pack a flask, you pack
a joint, and you pack a xanax and then you
go from house to house and try to get through
your effing day.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I mean, that's what I would recommend if I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
A if I'm a sorority Rush captain whatever or whatever
professional rush person, I'm saying, yes, pack yourself an edible
and hit the road.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Just kidding, just.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Kidding, listeners, all right, So even imagine what rush would
be like if that were the case, and everyone it's
a lot more fun.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
He would be crazy. Yeah, we would all be awful.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Everyone would be just laughing. Yes.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I don't remember ever even thinking of those things back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I mean neither. I feel like, Gosh, you just showed up. Yeah,
you just showed up.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
And hope even really think about I mean, I know
I thought about what I wore. But it wasn't like,
you know, like going out. I know that people get
outfits upon outfits upon outfits, like you have to have
a different outfit and please back in the day, you
wore the same outfit, maybe like two different days to
(24:14):
the different sororities, you know, but it's like, oh no,
you have to have this dress for this sorority and
this dress for this sorority and this dress for this sority.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I'm like, it's just so much.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
It's so much. I mean I was definitely in the
same outfit all day. God Like, I mean I.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Changed obviously each day that we had, but I was
in one outfit all day.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Yeah, you didn't make it like a costume change a wardrobe.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Teaeah no, no, we didn't do costume good.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
All right, guys.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
That is it for this episode of Dirty Rush. Make
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Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with
your hosts me Gia Jude.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hi, guys, welcome back to
another episode of Dirty Rush.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I am your host Jenniferfessler, and I am joined by
Jia Jude.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Today we have a very special guest.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
She made history as the very first bachelorette and it's
basically Indiana University Royalty, our friend Trista Sutter. Hi, Hi, guys,
thank you so much for joining g and I we are.
I'm always so happy to see you. You're just like,
here's my breath of I don't know everything good, but.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Anyway, so with you guys.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Warmer weather is coming and that can only mean one
thing that rush season is around the corner. So today
we are diving into the ultimate rush dues and don't
breaking down what to do, what to avoid, everything in between.
So let's get into it. So we have heard to
do certain things in April if you want to join
(01:04):
a sorority, right, So, Gia.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, So when I had a rush, I actually rushed
first semester and basically the only requirement that we had
to have was a good GPA and I really don't
remember if I did have to have a resume, but
(01:29):
if anything, then that was just my resume from high
school that I used while applying to college, So basically
anything that I was involved in in high school, which
was you know, the Make a Wish Foundation, Saint Jude's Foundation,
kind of any like foundation or clubs that you were
involved with in high school that.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Could better your chance of getting into your sorority. Right, And.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
But yeah, I had the GPA. A lot of my
friends didn't, so I I kind of wanted to rush
alone with only a couple people.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
That I knew. But it was super fun, long days.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But it was also exciting because well, as a freshman,
it's like, you want to get involved somewhat in a
big school.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Did you feel like, I mean, now it sounds like
you have to have these things done right if you
want to join authorty and you have to do them
in high school, which to me is just complete insanity.
Like they say, now there's all these these all this
advice about you have to finish up your social resume
right even if you don't have your GPA, and you
put it on the college's Facebook groups and Instagrams and
(02:38):
make sure your social media is cleaned up. This is
all before you even start the process.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
This is a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, I don't think it was nearly as intense as
it is now, but I could, like I could predict
that obviously any sorority who had interest in me probably
did look at my socials. So obviously I would say
to any girl who's thinking about rushing, and if you're underage,
(03:08):
do not post with alcohol bottles or don't maybe post like,
don't post vulgar things if you want to get into
like one of the top sororities. So they definitely do
a background check on you. I think that's pretty.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Standard, and they just see and.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Judge you based off of your social media if they
want you to.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Be in the sorority.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And then when they meet you in person, I guess
that solidifies it all.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Trusty, you didn't have this right, We didn't have this girl.
Social media wasn't even right, right. I always say, you're so,
you're you're younger than I am, tristed, but like, yeah,
like that wasn't.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I mean, not by much.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I'm fifty three, so I you know, no, we didn't
have to worry about this. You you get through high school,
you're enjoying your senior year, You're you're finishing up, you're graduating,
you're doing all the exciting things, right, and then you
go to college and then you worry about rush. Then
maybe you were asking for letters of recommendation, but you
(04:11):
weren't doing any of the things that I'm hearing about
as I'm saying, I have a friend who who was
going like literally going to visit with the sorority leaders,
like or the girls in the sorority that she knew,
or any contacts like this past fall or maybe even
(04:32):
like the winter of their of their senior year. So
if they know that they want to rush a particular sorority,
they are having.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
To go visit.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
And and she's going you don't even know if ye
do you know? Well, I think she may have already
been admitted, because I think she was early decision.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
But where, but she's going.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
She's going to Alabama and she and obviously Biama has
like a really intense rush, right, so she was like
all about it. She knows the stories that she wants.
She was going, this is Colorado to Alabama. It's not
like it's close. You know, She's taking plane flights to go,
you know, to males and do all these kind of
(05:16):
social things. They're going to lunches, they're going out there,
like you have to be on and it is during
your senior year.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So I'm sorry you guys. I think that's so it's crazy.
I don't mean to be like extremely, but like, give
me a break.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Your senior in high school, you're trying to enjoy You've
now you had to go through four years of high school,
which is like the worst thing ever, right, I mean
not for everyone, but like some people.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Gee, I think you had a great high school experience whatever.
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, I mean, senior year was probably one of the
best years of my life.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Okay. Also, my senior year.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Of high school, I definitely was not thinking about what
I would be doing for Rush going into Rutgers. So
it's kind of crazy that a lot of the you
know that a lot of the seniors who are graduating
and you know, they're excited for graduation and going to
college now have to think about their Rush resumes in April.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I think it's awful.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Like, I think it's a bit much, And I mean
I just saw a Rush resume.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
An example of one.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It was this woman Ashley Journ again and they look
really intense. It literally looks like you're applying for a job.
I mean, you have to put a headshot. It almost
looks like a modeling portfolio. I mean I didn't yeah
those when I was younger, but it's basically a standard
piece of paper with your headshot, your education, your major,
(06:43):
like anything that you did in extracurriculars for high school,
like your business accomplishments.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
It just so, I mean, in case you weren't anxious
enough about starting college, yeah, and about it, and you
you weren't like you weren't busy enough applying and getting
in all of your applications and your test and now
you have to put together a resume.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
It's too much, in my lie.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It does seem like a lot of pressure. I mean, regardless,
it's pretty standard though for for most students at least
when they are applying to college. You kind of do
have to put up a resume. I mean I have
one that is saved like from high school that I
did apply to schools with, so I mean you can
(07:27):
just use that and you know, hope for the best.
But just a word of advice my opinion, and I
mean just because I have younger sisters. I think being
involved in high school, regardless if you're planning on joining
a sorority or not, is very beneficial while applying to college.
Just to show that you are involved in that you
(07:49):
were involved in, you know, any clubs or extracurricular activities,
I think that's always a plus.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It probably is. I mean I'm not saying it's.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Not, you know, and if you were like you know,
student council in high school, like all of that stuff,
like I think helps while applying to college.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Not saying that's gonna get you in.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
But I guess now sororites are requiring a resume, which
that was not the case for me.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
But I just say, copy and paste the one that
you sent to your colleges and you should be fine.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I feel like you have to like actually make it
look super cutesy and like very feminine, do you know
what I mean, like as opposed to like a professional resume.
I know that the girl the ones that I've received
for writing letters or recommendation for Alpha I was an
Alpha Kai for Alpha Kai, they have like I feel
(08:43):
like I saved it because I wanted to remember what
it looked like when I was receiving letters of recommendations,
so that when Blakesley goes through it, she's a junior
this year in high school, when she goes through it,
I knew what to put together.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
But it was like she.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Had her monogram on the on the envelope, are on
the folder of the outside, and then she had an adorable,
you know, little headshot, and then it was like all
cute colors and it may have even been I think
one of them was applied to Clemson, and so she
had like the Clemson colors. So you have to, like,
I mean, it really takes a lot of effort and
(09:20):
energy these days to just like not only apply to
the college, which is so stressful, but apply to essentially
apply to be part of rush and and and put
your best face forward.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
It's just a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I mean, now now that you say that, now that
I'm looking at this woman, she you know, put an
example up of what a resume should look like.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
It does look very gurly.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, right. Doesn't that depend on the sorority.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I mean, hopefully they are enough toted out there for
girls that are not you know, yes gurly or whatever
me right, right.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
But I just feel like for these it was very southern,
you know what I mean, like very southern sorority, like
very the monograms and you know, all of the things,
and definitely that doesn't have to be everywhere. But I
just feel like it's just the effort, you know, there's
just a lot of effort that needs to be put
into them.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Gia.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You just mentioned this woman Ashley or these different pages
crush my rush and uh what are the other there
are some other ones at the sorority, Sister, and I'm
sure they're doing God's work and I'm you know, I'm
sure that they are helping girls everywhere.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
But but then this also like goes back to like
these women are also probably rush coaches, which again I
think is just crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Gea.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
We interviewed them, remember at the Black Governors. I want
to say our first pod, you're interviewing rush coaches.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, like, go in be yourself. I don't think it
needs to be that much pressure. Sure, if you want
to put a little more effort into your resume, but
I don't think you need to be coached on how
to be yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Well that's when we talked to these coaches about that.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Okay, so I have a friend who I went to
Indiana with. I was a red stepper with her and
she was a kyo and she started what.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Is a red stepper?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Sorry, I can't let go. What is a red stepper?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Jen?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I love you?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
It was like the we danced at the football game.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Of course, of course you were a red stepper. Why
doesn't that surprise me for one second?
Speaker 5 (11:44):
So anyway, she started a curdy rush business where she
coaches people. She teaches people how to apply, how to
get in, what to do, what not to do, like
literally all of these things she's telling people.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
To to do.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
It's a huge, huge business and people pay for it
because they feel like this is what they have to
be doing in college. If they don't get into a sorority,
then they're not going to have a good college experience.
Like that's that for some people, that's what they think, right, Yeah,
I want I want to bring her on or like
(12:23):
connect her to you guys and crush my crush my
rush actually sounds like the name of the business that
she started, but I don't know if that's it.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I'm we had interviewed a couple of these women again,
that was like our first pod and I remember afterwards,
probably it was very nice to me, but I was like,
give me a business.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh, it's my friend Jen Caravetta.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
So we went to iun that is her, that's her company,
crush My Rush.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
That's mystical.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
What a guy crush my Rush.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
And I'm sure that she again is doing good work.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
But I remember GA after we'd interviewed these people, they
were charging thousands of dollars and it was.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Like, it's like minimum at least it was like a
five thousand dollars flat fee. And I mean people also
pay that money for college advisors, where in that sense,
I think college advisors are super, super helpful, Like I
had one. They helped, so did Rachel tremendously, Like I
could not stand on that more, but.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
To pay an extra five thousand the way.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
If you think that if Rachel Fessler came to me
before she started at the University of Delaware her senior
year and said, Mommy, I need five thousand dollars for
a rush, Get thee out of here, you crazy, it's.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
A little too much.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I just feel like even if I said that to
my mom, just because she didn't do a sorority, she
didn't rush. She just you know, she went to a
local school and got her so see its degree, there
wasn't she wasn't allowed to go far. So if I
you know, I think it's for the parents who don't
know what it is and then for their children to
(14:11):
like ask them, oh, Mom, like you know, going into
this new chapter of my life, would I be able
to get a rush coach?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I really feel like my mom would say yes.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Because she would be like, like, she doesn't know.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
What age one clear, Like okay, you.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Know the same thing with a college advisor. My mom
was like okay, girls, like if you guys need one,
no problem. But now obviously like I'm the first. If
I were to ask her for a rush coach, I
really do think she would have been like okay, because
she would have wanted me to have the.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Best college experience.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
But trickling down to my other sisters, I would look
at my mom and be like, absolutely not, they do
not need one, like.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
This screen it up for Adriana or yeah, all of
them screw well.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I think it.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Also depends on the school that you go to, because
there are schools like the Southern schools that are like
the Florida schools and all of those schools. It's so competitive,
so who are are fully invested and honestly, legacies don't
matter anymore, Like I forget that it actually works against you.
(15:18):
So like these ladies who are like, oh, my daughter
will be fine. I was a coio, I was an
efflicate whatever. You cannot rely on that anymore because I
think they actually hold it against you. So I think
that this business. When I heard that my friend that
Jen was doing, crushed my rush. I was like, I
want to be involved, Like what a great idea to
help these girls. And if people are gonna pay, they're
(15:41):
gonna pay, you know, if they want, you know, like, hey,
I gave Jen all the props. If you don't want
to use it, you don't want to use it. But
I think that she does a really good job. Of course,
can't guarantee that she's gonna be able to get you
into a sorority, but she's gonna help you, you know,
to be able to put.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Your best foot forward.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
The only thing where I say it could be beneficial
is if you are not the most maybe outgoing person,
and if talking to new people scares you or intimidates you.
That is where I could only see it being beneficial.
But if you are somebody who is super outgoing, can
hold a conversation and you know, really really enjoys getting
(16:38):
to know people and being bubbly, and you know you
don't burn out quickly because Russia, Russia is really long days.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Then I think that you know, going the lengths.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Of getting a rush coach and following up with how
to be taught to kind of be during Rush.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I think it's a bit much.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
But if you are some who is a little shy
and does have trouble getting to know new people and
being as social.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Then I understand it. I use that it all depends
on the person.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And I know that it's important.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I know that that the sorority that you get into
definitely affects your four years, right and not. So I
don't want to like minimize the importance of it. And
if you have the money and you're anxious and you
can do it for yourself or your parents can help
you with it, great. I just know here in the
Fessler household, I don't give a shit that she needed
(17:32):
it or not. I wasn't hiring a five thousand dollars
rush code, so I'm not that good of a mother.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
But like, I mean, yeah, I mean also if you
have it, if you're within the means to do it, sure,
but do I think it's.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
A necessary thing to do.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
No.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Also, your personality and who you are as a person,
you are going to gravitate towards those girls as you rush,
So that'll also all fall into place when the time comes,
I hope.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
So I just feel like I have heard so many
horror stories of people that are they're great girls, great personalities,
super cute, great families. You know, they're academically excellent, you know,
they've done really well in school, and still they have
issues because of all of the things that the sororities
(18:24):
require you to do these days. And that's like, I mean,
I've I've heard so much as you have to have
this bag, you have to have this belt, you have
to have you know, all of these things, and they're
like if you don't, oh you're out.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
What Like it's I don't think it's as easy as
it was. Not easy as not the word, but it
was I think more innocent back in the day when
you could actually just show up and be like, Hi,
I'm Trista. It's so nice to meet you and like
show off your personality and that's how you got into
a sorority, that that was what it was about, because
(19:02):
it should be about if you click with the girls,
if you have the same vision and values in all
of that. But I don't know that it's it's like
that because I because it's kind of on my radar
for the future. I've been paying attention, and I think
it's too bad that a lot of it seems to be,
(19:22):
you know, more focused on superficial stuff and stuff that
you like have to have instead of who you are.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah. See, that was not the case for me at all.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
And I went to Rutgers University Big ten school and
that was just not my experience. I mean, my sister
Gabriella recently also just rushed. She's a junior, so she
rushed her freshman year at the University of Michigan again,
another Big ten and Michigan blows Rutgers out of the
(19:55):
water with just like how intense and fun the school is,
you know, school spirit, the whole nine yards. And she
did not have that experience either. I think good when
it comes to the materialistic things an aspect of it,
I really think it targets those Southern schools, which is sad,
(20:17):
but you know, in a school like Alabama, I think
some of the sororities really do target that, and I
think it is sad because it does put a lot
of pressure on the girls. And Alabama it's a great school.
It's so fun, like Greek life is a huge part
of it. But I think it does put a lot
(20:38):
of pressure, and I think the pressure is really high
with schools in the South.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, they also talked about having rush.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Bags, and I don't know if your daughter is looking
into that, but rush bags are basically just like a
bag of goodies that you hold around with you all
day to kind of keep you afloat.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I mean when I was rushing, sure.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I had a granola bar in it, maybe a powder
puff with some powder, my water, and just little things
to get me through the day, deodorant, perfume. But the
bag didn't have to be anything crazy, just was like,
you know, a little toe bag to like walk around
with and store your things in. But I don't know,
(21:24):
I think it gets a little crazy where they're like
stock up. I mean, I do think a bag is
important to carry mint if your shoes hurt in between
walking from house to house, a hair brush, little makeup,
stuff like a snack, water. But I don't think the
bag should matter. I think you should just have like
the things you need to fuel you throughout the day.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
But are they saying that you have to have like
a certain type of bag, Like what's the tell me
about the rush bag, because.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I don't think so. The rush bag.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I mean when I rushed, when I, you know, and
my sister's rushed, it's literally just a bag of little essentials.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
That you need to get you throughout your day.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So obviously you're talking all day, you want to stock
up with some mince or gum in case, like you know,
it just happens sometimes when you're talking all day, I.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Have fresh breath, Yeah, yes, sure.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Then some comfy shoes because typically when you are rushing,
you want to put on like a little kitten heel
or a heel when you're rushing, So just to carry around,
some sandals or slippers to slip on between houses. Then
a hair brush if you want obviously to fix your hair,
some makeup, a mini fan, especially if you go to
(22:39):
a school like that's really hot, just to keep you cool. Water, bottles,
some snacks like deodor and perfume, just to keep you
prepared throughout your day.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I also don't think they have a standard on what
the bag needs to look like.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I really hope not.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Okay, but I think it's just like a little toe
bag that you keep around.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I think you packed, you pack a flask, you pack
a joint, and you pack a xanax and then you
go from house to house and try to get through
your effing day.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I mean, that's what I would recommend if I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
A if I'm a sorority Rush captain whatever or whatever
professional rush person, I'm saying, yes, pack yourself an edible
and hit the road.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Just kidding, just.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Kidding, listeners, all right, So even imagine what rush would
be like if that were the case, and everyone it's
a lot more fun.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
He would be crazy. Yeah, we would all be awful.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Everyone would be just laughing. Yes.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I don't remember ever even thinking of those things back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I mean neither. I feel like, Gosh, you just showed up. Yeah,
you just showed up.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
And hope even really think about I mean, I know
I thought about what I wore. But it wasn't like,
you know, like going out. I know that people get
outfits upon outfits upon outfits, like you have to have
a different outfit and please back in the day, you
wore the same outfit, maybe like two different days to
(24:14):
the different sororities, you know, but it's like, oh no,
you have to have this dress for this sorority and
this dress for this sorority and this dress for this sority.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I'm like, it's just so much.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
It's so much. I mean I was definitely in the
same outfit all day. God Like, I mean I.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Changed obviously each day that we had, but I was
in one outfit all day.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Yeah, you didn't make it like a costume change a wardrobe.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Teaeah no, no, we didn't do costume good.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
All right, guys.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
That is it for this episode of Dirty Rush. Make
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