July 30, 2026 • 34 mins
A few weeks back the guys asked what they'd cut from modern society. This week, the flip side. What do you want to bring back from the "good old days"? The guys go solo to trade the things they miss most from the way life used to be.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, I'm will more about drama. This is Freddie Rodriguez.
Welcome to those Amigos. You know, man, we've been doing
this for a while. A little bit, a little bit,
a little bit, just a little bit, just a little
bit at bit a little bit. We've been doing those
Amigos for just a little bit. Huh, A little bit,
a little bit, a little bit. That's kind of good.
(00:31):
That's pretty good. A little bit. Wait, it was great,
it was good, fantastic. Well, then I'll take that to
the big Welcome to another riven An episode of the Amigos.
We get to talk to each other, you know, no
third wheel, no third wheel today. But I love these
(00:53):
conversations because I think for our fans these other things. Oh,
I want you if somebody told me to say, how
do you? Who's that? Someone that you and I don't know.
There was a woman that came up to me at
a restaurant called Jeffries in Malibu.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh yeah, jeoffrees.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
On on the on the coast. Okay, you your pronunciation
is obviously it's not anyway. So I'm at Geoffres like
I feel like when I said my my, my jow thislocates.
It's Josh, which is which is? Which is a good place,
great place, seafood place. It's off of this beautiful balcony
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that just clears the houses that are on the beach,
and then you have this beautiful look of Maliburn. It's
really nice. And I'm standing in line to get at
our table and I'm there with my son and my daughter,
my lady and and we're sitting there and we're waiting
there and this lady tops my shoulder and goes, hey,
I just wanted to say that I listened to your
(01:53):
podcast and there's so many things you guys talk about
that is once so interesting and things really just creates clarity.
And I was like, that was an interesting note that
she said, it creates clarity. And then she's like, please
tell Freddy that I'm a huge fan and all that,
and I said, okay, well I'll think about it. Now
(02:14):
I might information to myself. Well yeah, now I realized
I really I'm so insecure. I didn't want to say
it to you, but clarity.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But that's that's an interesting observation.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
What is that? What you mean? I think that there's subjects,
there's themes, there's conversations that you know, I think we
we go to these places, you know, and we kind
of do the what ifs, you know, and you never
know who at home is listening to these you know,
these hypotheses, these simulations and figures out. Oh man, that's
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what I was missing. So she she just kept complimenting
what the podcast was, and she she listened to it
was it was. It was just so nice. It was
so cool to hear that. And she worked at Geoffrees. No,
she was just going there. She was like, yeah, yeah,
so if you go to Jeoffrey's, you're not going to
jaw you know. I went to jaw Fras to have
some seafood. It's a good place. It's a great place.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Well shout out to whoever that was. I'm so happy
that we've brought clarity into you, brought clear, we very clear. Only.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So in today's episode, yes, we're gonna we're gonna prompt
the question that both of our amazing producers you know,
brought to the table. Yes, the question is what do
you want to bring back? Isn't that right? Where do
you want to bring back from the good old days?
And by the way, for anyone, no matter how old
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you are, you're listening to right now, your good old
days could be like the one thing that it's no
longer around. It could have been like been here five
years ago, It could have been here last year, and
it's no longer here. I mean like, for example, for
some of these the younger people listening this podcast, yeah,
you know, the good old is for them were just
(04:05):
before the pandemic, right when everyone got used to it
from working at home and saying like, oh, we can
just have a zoom about it as opposed to meeting
for lunch, meeting for coffee, or having an in person meeting.
Everyone got very comfortable doing business in zoom. So you
know what did we lose in that process? You know,
for you and I, it goes back to you know,
nineteen forty two, nineteen forty one, you know when we
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were when we were a teenagers graduating.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
College and you know, it's that vampire blood.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You have vampire blood. You know, it's like come look
into my eyes. Yeah, but but so so I the
more seriously for us, it was probably you know, the
late eighties and the nineties, early two thousands. You know
that you know that era was was an era of
wonder and was in an era and I'm having a
DejaVu right now, just a big one. But as an
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era for originality, it was it was originality.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Stuff that was sort of tactile and things that you
could touch right as opposed to like going into a
database and pulling up a movie.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Our producer Cooper just said that.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Gen Z is getting really heavy into.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Vinyl records amazing, which is fantastic. And I know I've
said this before. It's fantastic from my perspective. And I
know I've said this before because.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
My oldest brother was a DJ, right, and he's about.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Eight years older than me, and so some of my
earliest memories of my life is being surrounded by vinyl.
And I was surrounded by Vinyl my whole childhood. And
I just remember staring at album covers for hours and
hours on end, and like opening them and going through
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them and reading the credits and reading who was on
the horns and the drums and looking at the artwork.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I'm pulling the sleeve out right, and talk about that
experience because for an artist, yeah, there was a moment
of pride when you showed up to a photo studio. Yeah,
and you guys were here to shoot your album cover. Yeah,
you were going to shoot your sleeve, Like why were
the pictures that were going to choose to be in
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the foldout? Like that stuff for an artist was magical,
Like it was like, wow, I made it. I'm having
a photo shoot with my band and having a photoshoot
on my album, Like you know, that creative stuff was
really beautiful and then but I love that, like also
designing the label when you pull it out, is your
vinyl black? Is your vinyl blue? I don't know, like
you know that was They started playing with colors too.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
It's a it's a whole art piece in itself, right,
It's almost like creating like a like a coffee table
book where where every detail means The Bastic.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Voice had an iconic cover, which one the Basic Voice
that was one of the first big vinyl.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
License license to ill with the plane Crash. Yeah, yeah,
that was a good one. Even the one after that,
Paul's boutique. It was like the store on the outside.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
But I mean there's already hard. I mean like Metallica
had some great covers. Gons n Roses had some epic
artwork on that cover too. I just saw Rick James
one where.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You open Rick James where you open it up and
it's him like in these like high five boots and
like he's like leaning on his guitar, and.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
It was it was a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's everything you just said, right, It's it's stuff that
he thought out, went into the studio, took this photo,
knew that when you opened the cover, this was going
to be what it was.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Why did you Why do you feel it's coming back?
Why do you feel like young you know, like a
younger generations this covering vinyls. What do you think about it?
It's becoming magical for them?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's an interesting question. We were just talking
about this right before we started rolling. You know, I've
been I've been listening to people like Mike Deluco r.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
At New Line and what was the New Line.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I don't know where he is now, or Jason Blum
or some of these other studio guys, and they're saying
it's becoming like the seventies again, where the where the
artist and the writer are the stars. And what's interesting
about that is that gen Z are those people. They're
the ones who are being creative the way that we
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were in the seventies. They're the ones who are who
are saying, I'm only going to create my original stuff
and I'm putting it on YouTube, and I don't care
if I make any money. I just want I just
want the quality of the content to be high and there.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And there's a certain aesthetic that comes.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
With having that umbrella over your generation, right, and it
applies to everything it's saying, I'm going back to vinyl,
and I appreciate everything that we just talked about, the
artwork that all this other stuff. I'm going back to CDs.
I'm going back to DVDs. I have a nephew who's
in he's going to the UH to the Art Institute
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in Chicago. And I remember having a This was a
couple of months ago. I remember having a conversation with
him about AI and man, he looked at me like
he wanted to kill me.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
He's he was.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
His generation is so bent on what they're accomplishing now.
And I didn't understand that back then, and now I
see it happening. Wow and there, and they're going to
transform our business. Man, They're gonna they are transforming it,
especially with movies like back Room and Obsession and the
stuff that gen z is doing now that there's a
there's a movement happening underneath all that, and I'm excited
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to see what it is.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's that's great. Thanks for our
foring that, because that's that actually opens the door to
a whirl of comebacks, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And yeah, and what you were saying earlier about like
back when we were kids, right, it was about original
content and maybe a sequel, right, maybe a franchise sequels.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
We're actual real next chapters to the story. You know,
they weren't necessarily like let's recreate what we did in
the first one, Like I mean I love the John
Wick series. Yeah, right, Like I love the John Wick series.
But you know, the only note that I would say
is that how does it really further the story of
(10:14):
this guy? Except for like everything's hurting more right, a
little more differently, you know. But Keanu is Is is
a genius, and he's a phenomenal, phenomenal franchise player. You know,
he just knows how to create franchises. But for example,
you look at a franchise like that when you used
to do like like the Rocky stories, Yeah, first Rocky,
(10:37):
like it was that underdog right right then Rocky too,
it's about like, oh man, like, you know, tables are
turning right like now it's like, you know, he's the
guy some other young gotta get her. You know, it's
gonna come and get him, and and and so every
it was really the trajectory of a boxer, you know.
And uh, and they weren't just like they weren't just
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like this is what it worked for the first one,
so we got to do it again in the second one.
It was like they were taking stories somewhere else with
these sequels. And now a lot of these sequels, and
a lot of these action sequels have fallen into a
blueprint of narrative, which means like you open the big
gass action sequence, you follow it with some you know literature,
then you you know, then you package it around and
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you know, exposition, then another action sequence, then the here
comes a twist at the heel of another action sequence,
and then there's a big revelation and then there's like
the big showdown right Like it's like really cookie cutter.
If you really watch you know, movies, you start seeing that.
And I wish that people it would be more surprising
if like they allow themselves to let the story they
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take where the actions can it be as supposed to be, like, oh,
pitch forty five, we got to have something blow up?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, or what were you saying earlier about explaining for
the sake of people who are on.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Network? Does that beautifully? I mean very sarcastic. It's just
in the same times, like we just be put it
like this, like we call each other when we're like
our main characters and ncs, we call each other by
each other's names, probably twice the scene, Oh hey, tourists, tourists, tourists, tourist, storist, bishop, bishop, whatever,
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you know, like you know, gives, gives, gives, gives, weoll gives, well, gives.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's like you got to start line with the character's name,
and it's almost like reminding people this is who I'm
talking to. You're like, well, twenty three years later, you know,
you hope that people know? Are they concerned that people
might not remember the game? I think it's that type
of like exposition is important and the recap is it's important.
So if you come back from a commercial break, there
is a very subliminal like what happened before the commercial
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break that has to be sublimeinately recapped in that following
scene when you come back from the break right where where.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
You feel like the way that they used to tell
stories before it was different and bringing that back, they
gave the audience more credit.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
They treated us like we were actually really smart, right right,
you know, like like they would allow the story to
to go forward without having to go back to steps
and then forward and another two back, two steps, you know,
just to like catch us up, catch us up as
supposed to, like if you're on the ride, you're on
the ride, man, you know. So, so I'd like to
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bring you know, that kind of originality where they're where
they allowed audiences to just follow the story, you know,
and I think or assume that they're on their phone,
which is what the assumption is, right, Oh, they checked
their phone and they might have missed the thing. So
let's recap it and cap it. You know, what about
those of us who are not on the phone, whether
we're watching the movie?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, what about bringing toys back? Our toys big with
your kids?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Huge?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, my daughter in laws like iPads and all that.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
No, No, she's love to pretend and if she does
play a game. Is when we're on a fly. She'll
played like an in like educational game where she's just
kind of you know, going to the letters and the
shapes and the colors and then she's painting colors and
letters and yeah, but yeah, but I mean we tried,
we try our best, but it's inevitable. Right Like she
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knows that I opened my she's five years old. She
knows how I opened my wife's cell phone.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
She knows her code, the games on there that she
likes on her she'll just she knows how to find
the the the you know, the streaming apps. Oh right, right, right,
So it's not even even about games. It's about like
the streaming apps and going on.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You know. One one more thing that I like to
bring back is buttons, like just like I'll be able
to touch the things that I'm doing, like you know
they like yeah, library, I like to bring buttons Bay BlackBerry, BlackBerry, Yeah, BlackBerry,
and and you know kind of like you turn on
the lights and house click click, you know, in the
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back is as opposed to like a touchscreen touchscreen motion voice.
You know, I mean I kind of I think the
voice suff is cool, but I don't know I missed buttons.
I remember everything used to go click, click, click click.
It's funny you say that. Man.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
We were looking at a car recently and they were like, well,
here's the older model, here's the newer model. And I
was like, I like the older model because it has
all the buttons and all that.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
The newer model was just like flat. Maybe it was
the kids that when we were a little kids, we
were like spaceship click click click click. Okay, we're gonna go. Yeah, yeah,
to pretend.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
What about were you in the CDs when you were younger?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I went into the cities. What was your first city?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
My first CD was I think Day Last Soul Three.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Feet High and Rising.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I think was my first CD because I remember back
then was like CDs were expensive, right, I first got
some money and I either that or not.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I was heavy in the cassettes too, man. My first
cassette was the Beat Street soundtrack when I was like
in the fourth grade. That and and and you you
mentioned Beastie Beastie Boys, License to Ill.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I remember I had l O cooj bad on on
cassette when I.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Was like in the fourth grade. Yeah, have you met
Todd yet? No? Oh? Man, you will love.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, I'm such a you know, understand, Like, I'm such
a huge, huge fan. He did this movie called Crush
Groove in nineteen eighty seven that that I used to
just watch over and over and over on repeat, and
I knew all his lines, like he had come in
and like, you know, this whole scene he had that
was iconic and I used to repeat all his lines
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from that scene.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So like, I'm I'm like a big fan. That's fucking right. Yeah, yeah, No,
he's awesome. He's a really great dude too. It's like
super nice, open prosing. He's like Craig Guy, Craig Guy.
I love him. I love working with him. We've done
so many crossover events together. Oh yes, right, that's right. Yeah,
were always kicked ass together.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
What what about when you were a kid, were you
in the cassette tapes?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I love cassettes. I used to make my own cassettes too,
used to record on them. You remember, for those of
you who might not know what it's like to record
your favorite music and make a mixtape. Oh yeah, we
used to put a cassette inside of of a boom
box that had was capable of recording. So what you
could do is you put a cassette in there and
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you will be listening to radio and as soon as
your feelers soon is about to start, you like click,
You're recorded, you know, and there was always a snippet
of the radio station and behind each song. But that's
you know, you had. You had a double deck. I
had a doublet box right when.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You could record the entire radio show and then on
this one you would just sort of splice in like
not only the pieces that you wanted you so good, so.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Crazy, and then and then they also came with a
CD player on the top. It was the caste Powers
and the city, but you could do both.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, boom boxes really cool.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
So cars took a little while to to adapt to CDs,
so you had to use the cassette. That was that
hat that wire that was plugged into your adaptor of
the CD player. You know, you put a c here,
you do the plug in, and you put the cassette
and the cassette player is somehow by the way, how
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technology was crazy back then. You're like, wait a minute,
this CD player and I put this one here, and
I have this cassette who's communicating to the CD and
you put it in your cassette, put in your car,
and you helped the CD is playing in the car now.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
It was none, and then you would have to put
like the CD like real care the CD player super careful.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So that it wouldn't skip. You had a freaking wire
hanging out of the thing. I also, you know what
also means I miss not worrying about germs and public phones?
Oh you mean like payphones? Yes? Oh man, you remember
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that you would go to a PA. Here's a phone
croy grabby click click click. You know it's like three
hundred people. I just made a call that day. You
were like you didn't give a ship. You're like all right, cool.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And man, I used to have friends that used to
take it and like spin off.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh yeah. Sometimes you could smell the person before it
would be like dry flam on it, like just earwax, nasty,
yeah freak.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, yeah it felt good. It felt What about when
you when you were younger? I know your pop was
into cars too. Did he ever have like the pull
out radio yeah, or the face.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Off I don't know, like the whole unit comes out
its slide off the dashboard and just have a case
for it. Did you ever have a case. I didn't
have a case, but he had like that little handle
that flipped on you know. So, uh, for those of
you who are not understanding what we're saying here, let
me explain what it is. So sometimes you put it,
you put a aftermarket you know, cassette player, a CD
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player or whatever it is. You have to pine that's right.
And and you know, it was very popular to steal
this the stereos from different cars. Uh so if you
have one of those, they smash the window and take
your radio. So they invented something where you could actually
slide off your entire unit and it wild slide off
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your dashboard and you and then we'll have a little
handle that will flap down and then you literally carry
it like it was a little suitcase and you can
just take it with you to your lunch or to
whatever you've had a lunch with a big it's like,
oh my god, you got an appine. That's cool, let
me see that. But my very one was the one
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where like the unit would like open up like this,
you can put the city in it, and they were
closed up the heavyer phase unit. It would just opened
up like a little door. Yeah, and then all the
lights they would tell you that you trebled in the bays,
and you know they have all those colors. And what
about a face off?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Did you ever have the face off where you press
a button and only the face comes off?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah? Yeah, you know. I'll tell you this great story. Man,
I had just come back.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I was I was living in Chicago and I had
just come back from doing my first two movies. And
I bought a red Chevy Nova. Man used like two grand,
but it was like my first nice car, bro And
and I made I made nothing on dead presidents.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I made nothing on a walk in the clouds. And
I was having some kids. How much did you make
for that President? Thirty grand? That's crazy? How long was
that shoot?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Three months? There were both three months back when movies
would take three months. Thirty grand, bro, two grand a week, maybe,
you know. But I was like, oh my god, I'm
making two grand a thirty grand.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And I was having a kid, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And I got back and my cousin worked at a
car dealership and he's like, oh, we got this clean
Chevy Nova and it was red, and I paid two
grand for it. And I was like, oh, I got
a nice car, and I was like, I gotta put
a nice sound system. And in Chicago, and this is
some some ghetto stuff right here for y'all from Chicago.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
If you had a car like.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That, you had to put a speaker box in your trunk.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
And they had twelve inch speakers in.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
A box with an amp, and you had to have
either a slide out or a face off radio.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Man. And I had a face off bro, and.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I was bumping and I came back. I was bumping
that new Mob Deep album and like I just yeah, yeah,
got your trunk would be rattling, bro, And I just
got back. I was doing, you know, I just finished
my first two movies. I was like nineteen twenty, you know.
And man, this is it was wintertime and I was,
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I had my face from the radio and it was
a huge snow that had just that had just come
down and I and I was, I was, I was
stepping over the snow and I dropped my face from
the radio in the snow.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Man and I.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
And it was freaking freezing and I spent like two
hours trying to find the face and I lost the
damn face.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It's like, WHOA was it that deep? It's that deep
Chicago snow, you know. And I could not the face. Man.
I was like like crying your heads, like.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah yo, I went upstairs and you know Elie.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And it wasn't a thing where you can just go
buy the face. No, you have to replace the entire radio.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I'm like, man, I just spent all this money, like
like this movie money that I had on a Chevy
Nova and my radio and the speaker box.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Inside my car. Eventually I drove.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It from LA to UH, I mean from Chicago, LA.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And that was like the car that I had here
when when I first got here in like ninety five,
did you.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Turn it in for something else? After that?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I might have sold it to somebody or whatever. That
was like my first and I remember driving from Chicago.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I really wish I would have kept my families. Would
you have first car? We had a four tourist station
wagon with the hood a different color of the car.
The hood was why why was the hood of different
because it was dentist so they were placing different Yeah. Yeah, yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That that car got me through all my first auditions
here and it was it was. It was a good car.
But my first two movies paid for that car. Anyway,
I brought that up to say face off Radio. Yeah,
there you go, face Off Radio and twelve in speaker
boxes in the trunk hell.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That's really good. Let me see what else did we
bring back?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
The experience that people will never know of going to
Tower Records or going to Amiba knowing that there's a
new album.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Oh yeah, going there and they would have.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
The headphones and you could listen to the album or
snippets of the album m hmm, and it was like
an experience and there would be other people there and
you'd be.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Talking about that there was when there was releases, people
would show up to get that city. Yeah, you could
be the first one to listen to the city. You know,
did you ever do that? Did you ever wait for
a CD? Which one? Did you wait for? Matchbox twenty?
Matchbox twenty? Why are you guys looking at me like that?
Did you get Matchbox twenty? Was my shit? Where where
(25:26):
did you go to? You know? A couple of records soundset?
So you had to like wait line and like yeah yeah.
It was like you know, you kind of just wait
for them to like stock it and then you're like
all right, cool, Then I get a piece and whatever.
But I used to used to you know, I'm I
absolutely love Matchbox twenty and and Rob Thomas is one
(25:46):
of my best best people in my life. I just
love him so much. I wish I see in mom
but he lives in New York. Yeah, but he's one
of the most beautiful human means in the planet. Him
and his wife Madie, you are just like both angels
on Earth. But the point is, like those were some
of my first CDs. I was like, oh cool, you
got a cee my city right right, And you were like,
(26:06):
here's the release date, right. I remember that season was
the name of that album. Matt Season was was, you know,
was releasing. I remember calling my friend Christian Kane. Shout
out to Christian Kane, great actor. You know we did
we did Summer Catch together and we both were match
Bucks twenty guys. Yeah, and so we you know, we
(26:29):
literally went and grabbed the Mad Season. We were in
North Carolina, yeah, and we were supposed to we were
shooting the Summer Catch and then Matt Season releases, and
we went and picked it up. And I can never
forget it. We had a convertible tourist, a convertible why
don't forget what it was some kind of so yeah,
they were just busting, you know, like busting the speakers,
(26:51):
you know, just the tools and like, yeah, but that's
simplicity of being excited to listen to it with a
friend for the first time, like coming together to listen
to it. Yes, not to me, it was like, Okay,
got the city, dude coming over.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Yes, you know what I mean, you be analyzing every.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, turn that back, man, let's play that one back.
You know. Yeah, that stuff is really really fun.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I did that a tribe called Quest or third album,
Midnight Marauders. I was living in Chicago, and I waited
at Blockbuster, not at Blockbuster.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
At best Buy.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I waited at best Buy in the parking lot, and
I was like waiting for this freaking hour.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Was there the first day came out?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Man, as soon as the store open, I ran in
and I got the album.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And it was the same culture, right, like this is
the thing, Like this culture is is lost now, you know.
And and I think the idea that people can feel
the media to you know, get the things to fulfill them,
it is, uh, it sounds that it's not the level
of urgency of it.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
And now it's what now, it's like, okay iTunes.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And like now listen to it later, gonna get home
or whatever. You don't even look at the album cover right,
like nothing?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You know that was Remember that you pull out the
sleeve of the CD and you'd like open it.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Up and fingerprints on it. I remember not wanting to
put fingerprints on on the cover.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, what do you mean on the actual sleeve?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Oily and from Doritos. Doritos are from Doritos. Doritos are Cheetos,
And I'm like, ah, yeah, yeah, from the Burger, Yeah,
the Burger, the Burger.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah yeah, King at the time, you know, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Or what about you?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You were talking about going uh Blockbuster earlier.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You were telling me about what that experience was like
for you. Yeah it was cool man. You went to
Bugbustered and you just browsed and the covers that got
the guy you. Yeah. You don't know anything about the movies, yeah,
or you heard about them. You never went to the
theaters and didn't see it, or there was a gang
of movies that these megastars were doing. They never went
to theaters. Yeah, I want to remember I watched I
(29:01):
walk by an Island. I was like, Bruce Willis did
this move and I was like, what, I got to
watch this, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Right, And that was a rarity back then, right.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
It's like those kinds of guys didn't do those those
kind of straight to video or all of their movies got.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Theatrical, you know, straight to videos and stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
But you walk into Blockbuster and you just browse. You
had a membership. You have those little lemonade cards that
they just made for you there, they like melted it
in front of it like a dry card with your
on the back and you so you literally went to
check him in and check them out like that. You
were like you were checking out library books. Yeah, you know.
And I just remember loving the sections, you know you
went through. Oh. I remember very clearly the day that
(29:46):
we went and my dad letting me rent free Willie
will I can't forget that moment. I was like, you
saw the cover and the kid is like yeah, kids
like and it's like the orchives flying over in the
waters hitting him and it's just like yeah, And I
remember I remember seeing I remember loving it so much
(30:07):
because Michael Jackson had the themes on to that song
we did. He really dum d oh that one that
was Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, so yo a Blockbuster. I remember it used to
be like that was like a that was like a
whole Friday night.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Man. You know when my kids were younger.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
We used to we used to go there and they'd
be so excited, you know, they'd get out of school
and like, we're going to Blockbuster today.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
It was like, but you remember it used to look
at the magazines like it releases on Blockbuster on this day,
and now on that day you showed up when he
was ready for renting. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
And then it became this thing where like there'd be
I don't know, it would be a major movie, be
like ten copies on the wall and you have to
get there early to.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Make sure you got copy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I got real cool with like the guy who worked
at Blockbuster, and I's been.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Like, come on, man, I'm coming by, Please save this
movie for me.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
And he'd saved the movie for me, man, and I'd
be like, come on, some of my movies are on
the wall right now.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
You know. That was cool you go hook up. Yeah,
but that'd be kind of cool. You go to Blockbuster
and you'd be like, wow, that's that's my movie. Oh yeah,
that's a moment of pride. Yeah for yeah, you're right here.
I forgot it. The first time I saw a cover
of a movie that I was a blockbuster, I was like,
my mom made it. I made the blockbuster wall. Yeah. Yeah.
(31:28):
Little kid from that kid is like, you know, now,
when you look back at that Free Willie movie, you
realize how fake the jump of Free Willy over the
kid is, But it was so magic when you're watching
in the movies, you're like, oh my god, how did
you get an orca to jump over the barrier of
(31:51):
rocks and stones? And he just jumping. The little kid
is saying, no, you getting around and yeah, and he's
like and then when he goes like this, and then
the you know, the orc just flies over him and
it's like and you knew it was fake because there's
no freaking way that just like these little tiny drops
were just falling in his face and he's.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like where the graphics I don't remember, but it was
all graphics.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Or flying over the kid's head, like there was like
a piece practical practical or flew over him. It was
just like this and it was a slow motion shot. Yeah,
but I feel like there it was a slow motion
without being slow motion, you know, like they did it
slow Yeah, we bought it that it was slow motion. Yeah.
Oh man, I gotta looked at scene up. It's very good.
(32:41):
I thought you were saying that it was like some
terrible like v effects. That's what I'm saying. That the
practical it's terrible. Yeah, but I got to tell you
the fact that they had and you know, it goes
back to originality, bringing in full circle to like white
movies were so magical then it's like it didn't matter, right,
Like even when you had Jim Hanson create monsters and
(33:03):
you could only see them from the neck up or
the shoulders up, and you never saw them walking, you know,
like you didn't care. Yeah yeah right, Leo, Okay, thank you.
Leo's playing the video back. Look at it. Look at
this part. Oh, that actually doesn't look too bad, bro,
(33:24):
No freaking way. The kid has time to do that
entire performance in the middle of a realistic orca over
my head, jump pay that ship back, Pay that ship back.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
But it it actually doesn't like, like.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Look look bad, what is this? What is this? Look
at look at his performance? He's like straight up. He
had time to turn around, smile. Look at this thing
like the tails not even moving. It's like still but
you know he's not going over and around. Yeah, it's
like going like like like it's flying over his head
(34:01):
like a plane, right right right, so flat and made
that in like thirty years. Yeah? Is that is that
how he sounded the kid? No, but that's how that's
that's just how I remember it. That's how you feel,
that's how I like. Yeah, anyways, this was really fun. Yeah,
(34:22):
this is Wilmer bald Ramai Rodriguez. And you just pretended
to listen to this. You're probably on your phone anyway,
so we didn't hear this episode. So if you're just
so optimistic, yeah, if you were just watching, if you
were just looking at your phone, and just remind you
we were talking about Blockbuster. Okay, until the next episode.
(34:43):
I'll see you guys next time. Perse
Hey, I'm will more about drama. This is Freddie Rodriguez.
Welcome to those Amigos. You know, man, we've been doing
this for a while. A little bit, a little bit,
a little bit, just a little bit, just a little
bit at bit a little bit. We've been doing those
Amigos for just a little bit. Huh, A little bit,
a little bit, a little bit. That's kind of good.
(00:31):
That's pretty good. A little bit. Wait, it was great,
it was good, fantastic. Well, then I'll take that to
the big Welcome to another riven An episode of the Amigos.
We get to talk to each other, you know, no
third wheel, no third wheel today. But I love these
(00:53):
conversations because I think for our fans these other things. Oh,
I want you if somebody told me to say, how
do you? Who's that? Someone that you and I don't know.
There was a woman that came up to me at
a restaurant called Jeffries in Malibu.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh yeah, jeoffrees.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
On on the on the coast. Okay, you your pronunciation
is obviously it's not anyway. So I'm at Geoffres like
I feel like when I said my my, my jow thislocates.
It's Josh, which is which is? Which is a good place,
great place, seafood place. It's off of this beautiful balcony
(01:32):
that just clears the houses that are on the beach,
and then you have this beautiful look of Maliburn. It's
really nice. And I'm standing in line to get at
our table and I'm there with my son and my daughter,
my lady and and we're sitting there and we're waiting
there and this lady tops my shoulder and goes, hey,
I just wanted to say that I listened to your
(01:53):
podcast and there's so many things you guys talk about
that is once so interesting and things really just creates clarity.
And I was like, that was an interesting note that
she said, it creates clarity. And then she's like, please
tell Freddy that I'm a huge fan and all that,
and I said, okay, well I'll think about it. Now
(02:14):
I might information to myself. Well yeah, now I realized
I really I'm so insecure. I didn't want to say
it to you, but clarity.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But that's that's an interesting observation.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
What is that? What you mean? I think that there's subjects,
there's themes, there's conversations that you know, I think we
we go to these places, you know, and we kind
of do the what ifs, you know, and you never
know who at home is listening to these you know,
these hypotheses, these simulations and figures out. Oh man, that's
(02:44):
what I was missing. So she she just kept complimenting
what the podcast was, and she she listened to it
was it was. It was just so nice. It was
so cool to hear that. And she worked at Geoffrees. No,
she was just going there. She was like, yeah, yeah,
so if you go to Jeoffrey's, you're not going to
jaw you know. I went to jaw Fras to have
some seafood. It's a good place. It's a great place.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Well shout out to whoever that was. I'm so happy
that we've brought clarity into you, brought clear, we very clear. Only.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So in today's episode, yes, we're gonna we're gonna prompt
the question that both of our amazing producers you know,
brought to the table. Yes, the question is what do
you want to bring back? Isn't that right? Where do
you want to bring back from the good old days?
And by the way, for anyone, no matter how old
(03:44):
you are, you're listening to right now, your good old
days could be like the one thing that it's no
longer around. It could have been like been here five
years ago, It could have been here last year, and
it's no longer here. I mean like, for example, for
some of these the younger people listening this podcast, yeah,
you know, the good old is for them were just
(04:05):
before the pandemic, right when everyone got used to it
from working at home and saying like, oh, we can
just have a zoom about it as opposed to meeting
for lunch, meeting for coffee, or having an in person meeting.
Everyone got very comfortable doing business in zoom. So you
know what did we lose in that process? You know,
for you and I, it goes back to you know,
nineteen forty two, nineteen forty one, you know when we
(04:26):
were when we were a teenagers graduating.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
College and you know, it's that vampire blood.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You have vampire blood. You know, it's like come look
into my eyes. Yeah, but but so so I the
more seriously for us, it was probably you know, the
late eighties and the nineties, early two thousands. You know
that you know that era was was an era of
wonder and was in an era and I'm having a
DejaVu right now, just a big one. But as an
(04:53):
era for originality, it was it was originality.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Stuff that was sort of tactile and things that you
could touch right as opposed to like going into a
database and pulling up a movie.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Our producer Cooper just said that.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Gen Z is getting really heavy into.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Vinyl records amazing, which is fantastic. And I know I've
said this before. It's fantastic from my perspective. And I
know I've said this before because.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
My oldest brother was a DJ, right, and he's about.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Eight years older than me, and so some of my
earliest memories of my life is being surrounded by vinyl.
And I was surrounded by Vinyl my whole childhood. And
I just remember staring at album covers for hours and
hours on end, and like opening them and going through
(05:48):
them and reading the credits and reading who was on
the horns and the drums and looking at the artwork.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I'm pulling the sleeve out right, and talk about that
experience because for an artist, yeah, there was a moment
of pride when you showed up to a photo studio. Yeah,
and you guys were here to shoot your album cover. Yeah,
you were going to shoot your sleeve, Like why were
the pictures that were going to choose to be in
(06:18):
the foldout? Like that stuff for an artist was magical,
Like it was like, wow, I made it. I'm having
a photo shoot with my band and having a photoshoot
on my album, Like you know, that creative stuff was
really beautiful and then but I love that, like also
designing the label when you pull it out, is your
vinyl black? Is your vinyl blue? I don't know, like
you know that was They started playing with colors too.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
It's a it's a whole art piece in itself, right,
It's almost like creating like a like a coffee table
book where where every detail means The Bastic.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Voice had an iconic cover, which one the Basic Voice
that was one of the first big vinyl.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
License license to ill with the plane Crash. Yeah, yeah,
that was a good one. Even the one after that,
Paul's boutique. It was like the store on the outside.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
But I mean there's already hard. I mean like Metallica
had some great covers. Gons n Roses had some epic
artwork on that cover too. I just saw Rick James
one where.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You open Rick James where you open it up and
it's him like in these like high five boots and
like he's like leaning on his guitar, and.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
It was it was a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's everything you just said, right, It's it's stuff that
he thought out, went into the studio, took this photo,
knew that when you opened the cover, this was going
to be what it was.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Why did you Why do you feel it's coming back?
Why do you feel like young you know, like a
younger generations this covering vinyls. What do you think about it?
It's becoming magical for them?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's an interesting question. We were just talking
about this right before we started rolling. You know, I've
been I've been listening to people like Mike Deluco r.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
At New Line and what was the New Line.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I don't know where he is now, or Jason Blum
or some of these other studio guys, and they're saying
it's becoming like the seventies again, where the where the
artist and the writer are the stars. And what's interesting
about that is that gen Z are those people. They're
the ones who are being creative the way that we
(08:16):
were in the seventies. They're the ones who are who
are saying, I'm only going to create my original stuff
and I'm putting it on YouTube, and I don't care
if I make any money. I just want I just
want the quality of the content to be high and there.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And there's a certain aesthetic that comes.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
With having that umbrella over your generation, right, and it
applies to everything it's saying, I'm going back to vinyl,
and I appreciate everything that we just talked about, the
artwork that all this other stuff. I'm going back to CDs.
I'm going back to DVDs. I have a nephew who's
in he's going to the UH to the Art Institute
(08:54):
in Chicago. And I remember having a This was a
couple of months ago. I remember having a conversation with
him about AI and man, he looked at me like
he wanted to kill me.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
He's he was.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
His generation is so bent on what they're accomplishing now.
And I didn't understand that back then, and now I
see it happening. Wow and there, and they're going to
transform our business. Man, They're gonna they are transforming it,
especially with movies like back Room and Obsession and the
stuff that gen z is doing now that there's a
there's a movement happening underneath all that, and I'm excited
(09:31):
to see what it is.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's that's great. Thanks for our
foring that, because that's that actually opens the door to
a whirl of comebacks, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And yeah, and what you were saying earlier about like
back when we were kids, right, it was about original
content and maybe a sequel, right, maybe a franchise sequels.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
We're actual real next chapters to the story. You know,
they weren't necessarily like let's recreate what we did in
the first one, Like I mean I love the John
Wick series. Yeah, right, Like I love the John Wick series.
But you know, the only note that I would say
is that how does it really further the story of
(10:14):
this guy? Except for like everything's hurting more right, a
little more differently, you know. But Keanu is Is is
a genius, and he's a phenomenal, phenomenal franchise player. You know,
he just knows how to create franchises. But for example,
you look at a franchise like that when you used
to do like like the Rocky stories, Yeah, first Rocky,
(10:37):
like it was that underdog right right then Rocky too,
it's about like, oh man, like, you know, tables are
turning right like now it's like, you know, he's the
guy some other young gotta get her. You know, it's
gonna come and get him, and and and so every
it was really the trajectory of a boxer, you know.
And uh, and they weren't just like they weren't just
(10:59):
like this is what it worked for the first one,
so we got to do it again in the second one.
It was like they were taking stories somewhere else with
these sequels. And now a lot of these sequels, and
a lot of these action sequels have fallen into a
blueprint of narrative, which means like you open the big
gass action sequence, you follow it with some you know literature,
then you you know, then you package it around and
(11:21):
you know, exposition, then another action sequence, then the here
comes a twist at the heel of another action sequence,
and then there's a big revelation and then there's like
the big showdown right Like it's like really cookie cutter.
If you really watch you know, movies, you start seeing that.
And I wish that people it would be more surprising
if like they allow themselves to let the story they
(11:43):
take where the actions can it be as supposed to be, like, oh,
pitch forty five, we got to have something blow up?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, or what were you saying earlier about explaining for
the sake of people who are on.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Network? Does that beautifully? I mean very sarcastic. It's just
in the same times, like we just be put it
like this, like we call each other when we're like
our main characters and ncs, we call each other by
each other's names, probably twice the scene, Oh hey, tourists, tourists, tourists, tourist, storist, bishop, bishop, whatever,
(12:22):
you know, like you know, gives, gives, gives, gives, weoll gives, well, gives.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's like you got to start line with the character's name,
and it's almost like reminding people this is who I'm
talking to. You're like, well, twenty three years later, you know,
you hope that people know? Are they concerned that people
might not remember the game? I think it's that type
of like exposition is important and the recap is it's important.
So if you come back from a commercial break, there
is a very subliminal like what happened before the commercial
(12:50):
break that has to be sublimeinately recapped in that following
scene when you come back from the break right where where.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
You feel like the way that they used to tell
stories before it was different and bringing that back, they
gave the audience more credit.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
They treated us like we were actually really smart, right right,
you know, like like they would allow the story to
to go forward without having to go back to steps
and then forward and another two back, two steps, you know,
just to like catch us up, catch us up as
supposed to, like if you're on the ride, you're on
the ride, man, you know. So, so I'd like to
(13:28):
bring you know, that kind of originality where they're where
they allowed audiences to just follow the story, you know,
and I think or assume that they're on their phone,
which is what the assumption is, right, Oh, they checked
their phone and they might have missed the thing. So
let's recap it and cap it. You know, what about
those of us who are not on the phone, whether
we're watching the movie?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, what about bringing toys back? Our toys big with
your kids?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Huge?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, my daughter in laws like iPads and all that.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
No, No, she's love to pretend and if she does
play a game. Is when we're on a fly. She'll
played like an in like educational game where she's just
kind of you know, going to the letters and the
shapes and the colors and then she's painting colors and
letters and yeah, but yeah, but I mean we tried,
we try our best, but it's inevitable. Right Like she
(14:16):
knows that I opened my she's five years old. She
knows how I opened my wife's cell phone.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
She knows her code, the games on there that she
likes on her she'll just she knows how to find
the the the you know, the streaming apps. Oh right, right, right,
So it's not even even about games. It's about like
the streaming apps and going on.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You know. One one more thing that I like to
bring back is buttons, like just like I'll be able
to touch the things that I'm doing, like you know
they like yeah, library, I like to bring buttons Bay BlackBerry, BlackBerry, Yeah, BlackBerry,
and and you know kind of like you turn on
the lights and house click click, you know, in the
(15:02):
back is as opposed to like a touchscreen touchscreen motion voice.
You know, I mean I kind of I think the
voice suff is cool, but I don't know I missed buttons.
I remember everything used to go click, click, click click.
It's funny you say that. Man.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
We were looking at a car recently and they were like, well,
here's the older model, here's the newer model. And I
was like, I like the older model because it has
all the buttons and all that.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
The newer model was just like flat. Maybe it was
the kids that when we were a little kids, we
were like spaceship click click click click. Okay, we're gonna go. Yeah, yeah,
to pretend.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
What about were you in the CDs when you were younger?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I went into the cities. What was your first city?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
My first CD was I think Day Last Soul Three.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Feet High and Rising.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I think was my first CD because I remember back
then was like CDs were expensive, right, I first got
some money and I either that or not.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I was heavy in the cassettes too, man. My first
cassette was the Beat Street soundtrack when I was like
in the fourth grade. That and and and you you
mentioned Beastie Beastie Boys, License to Ill.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I remember I had l O cooj bad on on
cassette when I.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Was like in the fourth grade. Yeah, have you met
Todd yet? No? Oh? Man, you will love.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, I'm such a you know, understand, Like, I'm such
a huge, huge fan. He did this movie called Crush
Groove in nineteen eighty seven that that I used to
just watch over and over and over on repeat, and
I knew all his lines, like he had come in
and like, you know, this whole scene he had that
was iconic and I used to repeat all his lines
(16:52):
from that scene.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So like, I'm I'm like a big fan. That's fucking right. Yeah, yeah, No,
he's awesome. He's a really great dude too. It's like
super nice, open prosing. He's like Craig Guy, Craig Guy.
I love him. I love working with him. We've done
so many crossover events together. Oh yes, right, that's right. Yeah,
were always kicked ass together.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
What what about when you were a kid, were you
in the cassette tapes?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I love cassettes. I used to make my own cassettes too,
used to record on them. You remember, for those of
you who might not know what it's like to record
your favorite music and make a mixtape. Oh yeah, we
used to put a cassette inside of of a boom
box that had was capable of recording. So what you
could do is you put a cassette in there and
(17:37):
you will be listening to radio and as soon as
your feelers soon is about to start, you like click,
You're recorded, you know, and there was always a snippet
of the radio station and behind each song. But that's
you know, you had. You had a double deck. I
had a doublet box right when.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You could record the entire radio show and then on
this one you would just sort of splice in like
not only the pieces that you wanted you so good, so.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Crazy, and then and then they also came with a
CD player on the top. It was the caste Powers
and the city, but you could do both.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, boom boxes really cool.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
So cars took a little while to to adapt to CDs,
so you had to use the cassette. That was that
hat that wire that was plugged into your adaptor of
the CD player. You know, you put a c here,
you do the plug in, and you put the cassette
and the cassette player is somehow by the way, how
(18:33):
technology was crazy back then. You're like, wait a minute,
this CD player and I put this one here, and
I have this cassette who's communicating to the CD and
you put it in your cassette, put in your car,
and you helped the CD is playing in the car now.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
It was none, and then you would have to put
like the CD like real care the CD player super careful.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So that it wouldn't skip. You had a freaking wire
hanging out of the thing. I also, you know what
also means I miss not worrying about germs and public phones?
Oh you mean like payphones? Yes? Oh man, you remember
(19:14):
that you would go to a PA. Here's a phone
croy grabby click click click. You know it's like three
hundred people. I just made a call that day. You
were like you didn't give a ship. You're like all right, cool.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And man, I used to have friends that used to
take it and like spin off.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh yeah. Sometimes you could smell the person before it
would be like dry flam on it, like just earwax, nasty,
yeah freak.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, yeah it felt good. It felt What about when
you when you were younger? I know your pop was
into cars too. Did he ever have like the pull
out radio yeah, or the face.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Off I don't know, like the whole unit comes out
its slide off the dashboard and just have a case
for it. Did you ever have a case. I didn't
have a case, but he had like that little handle
that flipped on you know. So, uh, for those of
you who are not understanding what we're saying here, let
me explain what it is. So sometimes you put it,
you put a aftermarket you know, cassette player, a CD
(20:11):
player or whatever it is. You have to pine that's right.
And and you know, it was very popular to steal
this the stereos from different cars. Uh so if you
have one of those, they smash the window and take
your radio. So they invented something where you could actually
slide off your entire unit and it wild slide off
(20:34):
your dashboard and you and then we'll have a little
handle that will flap down and then you literally carry
it like it was a little suitcase and you can
just take it with you to your lunch or to
whatever you've had a lunch with a big it's like,
oh my god, you got an appine. That's cool, let
me see that. But my very one was the one
(20:54):
where like the unit would like open up like this,
you can put the city in it, and they were
closed up the heavyer phase unit. It would just opened
up like a little door. Yeah, and then all the
lights they would tell you that you trebled in the bays,
and you know they have all those colors. And what
about a face off?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Did you ever have the face off where you press
a button and only the face comes off?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah? Yeah, you know. I'll tell you this great story. Man,
I had just come back.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I was I was living in Chicago and I had
just come back from doing my first two movies. And
I bought a red Chevy Nova. Man used like two grand,
but it was like my first nice car, bro And
and I made I made nothing on dead presidents.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I made nothing on a walk in the clouds. And
I was having some kids. How much did you make
for that President? Thirty grand? That's crazy? How long was
that shoot?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Three months? There were both three months back when movies
would take three months. Thirty grand, bro, two grand a week, maybe,
you know. But I was like, oh my god, I'm
making two grand a thirty grand.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And I was having a kid, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And I got back and my cousin worked at a
car dealership and he's like, oh, we got this clean
Chevy Nova and it was red, and I paid two
grand for it. And I was like, oh, I got
a nice car, and I was like, I gotta put
a nice sound system. And in Chicago, and this is
some some ghetto stuff right here for y'all from Chicago.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
If you had a car like.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That, you had to put a speaker box in your trunk.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
And they had twelve inch speakers in.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
A box with an amp, and you had to have
either a slide out or a face off radio.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Man. And I had a face off bro, and.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I was bumping and I came back. I was bumping
that new Mob Deep album and like I just yeah, yeah,
got your trunk would be rattling, bro, And I just
got back. I was doing, you know, I just finished
my first two movies. I was like nineteen twenty, you know.
And man, this is it was wintertime and I was,
(23:00):
I had my face from the radio and it was
a huge snow that had just that had just come
down and I and I was, I was, I was
stepping over the snow and I dropped my face from
the radio in the snow.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Man and I.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
And it was freaking freezing and I spent like two
hours trying to find the face and I lost the
damn face.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It's like, WHOA was it that deep? It's that deep
Chicago snow, you know. And I could not the face. Man.
I was like like crying your heads, like.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah yo, I went upstairs and you know Elie.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And it wasn't a thing where you can just go
buy the face. No, you have to replace the entire radio.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I'm like, man, I just spent all this money, like
like this movie money that I had on a Chevy
Nova and my radio and the speaker box.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Inside my car. Eventually I drove.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It from LA to UH, I mean from Chicago, LA.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And that was like the car that I had here
when when I first got here in like ninety five,
did you.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Turn it in for something else? After that?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I might have sold it to somebody or whatever. That
was like my first and I remember driving from Chicago.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I really wish I would have kept my families. Would
you have first car? We had a four tourist station
wagon with the hood a different color of the car.
The hood was why why was the hood of different
because it was dentist so they were placing different Yeah. Yeah, yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That that car got me through all my first auditions
here and it was it was. It was a good car.
But my first two movies paid for that car. Anyway,
I brought that up to say face off Radio. Yeah,
there you go, face Off Radio and twelve in speaker
boxes in the trunk hell.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That's really good. Let me see what else did we
bring back?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
The experience that people will never know of going to
Tower Records or going to Amiba knowing that there's a
new album.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Oh yeah, going there and they would have.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
The headphones and you could listen to the album or
snippets of the album m hmm, and it was like
an experience and there would be other people there and
you'd be.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Talking about that there was when there was releases, people
would show up to get that city. Yeah, you could
be the first one to listen to the city. You know,
did you ever do that? Did you ever wait for
a CD? Which one? Did you wait for? Matchbox twenty?
Matchbox twenty? Why are you guys looking at me like that?
Did you get Matchbox twenty? Was my shit? Where where
(25:26):
did you go to? You know? A couple of records soundset?
So you had to like wait line and like yeah yeah.
It was like you know, you kind of just wait
for them to like stock it and then you're like
all right, cool, Then I get a piece and whatever.
But I used to used to you know, I'm I
absolutely love Matchbox twenty and and Rob Thomas is one
(25:46):
of my best best people in my life. I just
love him so much. I wish I see in mom
but he lives in New York. Yeah, but he's one
of the most beautiful human means in the planet. Him
and his wife Madie, you are just like both angels
on Earth. But the point is, like those were some
of my first CDs. I was like, oh cool, you
got a cee my city right right, And you were like,
(26:06):
here's the release date, right. I remember that season was
the name of that album. Matt Season was was, you know,
was releasing. I remember calling my friend Christian Kane. Shout
out to Christian Kane, great actor. You know we did
we did Summer Catch together and we both were match
Bucks twenty guys. Yeah, and so we you know, we
(26:29):
literally went and grabbed the Mad Season. We were in
North Carolina, yeah, and we were supposed to we were
shooting the Summer Catch and then Matt Season releases, and
we went and picked it up. And I can never
forget it. We had a convertible tourist, a convertible why
don't forget what it was some kind of so yeah,
they were just busting, you know, like busting the speakers,
(26:51):
you know, just the tools and like, yeah, but that's
simplicity of being excited to listen to it with a
friend for the first time, like coming together to listen
to it. Yes, not to me, it was like, Okay,
got the city, dude coming over.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Yes, you know what I mean, you be analyzing every.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, turn that back, man, let's play that one back.
You know. Yeah, that stuff is really really fun.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I did that a tribe called Quest or third album,
Midnight Marauders. I was living in Chicago, and I waited
at Blockbuster, not at Blockbuster.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
At best Buy.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I waited at best Buy in the parking lot, and
I was like waiting for this freaking hour.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Was there the first day came out?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Man, as soon as the store open, I ran in
and I got the album.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And it was the same culture, right, like this is
the thing, Like this culture is is lost now, you know.
And and I think the idea that people can feel
the media to you know, get the things to fulfill them,
it is, uh, it sounds that it's not the level
of urgency of it.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
And now it's what now, it's like, okay iTunes.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And like now listen to it later, gonna get home
or whatever. You don't even look at the album cover right,
like nothing?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You know that was Remember that you pull out the
sleeve of the CD and you'd like open it.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Up and fingerprints on it. I remember not wanting to
put fingerprints on on the cover.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, what do you mean on the actual sleeve?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Oily and from Doritos. Doritos are from Doritos. Doritos are Cheetos,
And I'm like, ah, yeah, yeah, from the Burger, Yeah,
the Burger, the Burger.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah yeah, King at the time, you know, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Or what about you?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You were talking about going uh Blockbuster earlier.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You were telling me about what that experience was like
for you. Yeah it was cool man. You went to
Bugbustered and you just browsed and the covers that got
the guy you. Yeah. You don't know anything about the movies, yeah,
or you heard about them. You never went to the
theaters and didn't see it, or there was a gang
of movies that these megastars were doing. They never went
to theaters. Yeah, I want to remember I watched I
(29:01):
walk by an Island. I was like, Bruce Willis did
this move and I was like, what, I got to
watch this, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Right, And that was a rarity back then, right.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
It's like those kinds of guys didn't do those those
kind of straight to video or all of their movies got.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Theatrical, you know, straight to videos and stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
But you walk into Blockbuster and you just browse. You
had a membership. You have those little lemonade cards that
they just made for you there, they like melted it
in front of it like a dry card with your
on the back and you so you literally went to
check him in and check them out like that. You
were like you were checking out library books. Yeah, you know.
And I just remember loving the sections, you know you
went through. Oh. I remember very clearly the day that
(29:46):
we went and my dad letting me rent free Willie
will I can't forget that moment. I was like, you
saw the cover and the kid is like yeah, kids
like and it's like the orchives flying over in the
waters hitting him and it's just like yeah, And I
remember I remember seeing I remember loving it so much
(30:07):
because Michael Jackson had the themes on to that song
we did. He really dum d oh that one that
was Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, so yo a Blockbuster. I remember it used to
be like that was like a that was like a
whole Friday night.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Man. You know when my kids were younger.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
We used to we used to go there and they'd
be so excited, you know, they'd get out of school
and like, we're going to Blockbuster today.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
It was like, but you remember it used to look
at the magazines like it releases on Blockbuster on this day,
and now on that day you showed up when he
was ready for renting. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
And then it became this thing where like there'd be
I don't know, it would be a major movie, be
like ten copies on the wall and you have to
get there early to.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Make sure you got copy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I got real cool with like the guy who worked
at Blockbuster, and I's been.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Like, come on, man, I'm coming by, Please save this
movie for me.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
And he'd saved the movie for me, man, and I'd
be like, come on, some of my movies are on
the wall right now.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
You know. That was cool you go hook up. Yeah,
but that'd be kind of cool. You go to Blockbuster
and you'd be like, wow, that's that's my movie. Oh yeah,
that's a moment of pride. Yeah for yeah, you're right here.
I forgot it. The first time I saw a cover
of a movie that I was a blockbuster, I was like,
my mom made it. I made the blockbuster wall. Yeah. Yeah.
(31:28):
Little kid from that kid is like, you know, now,
when you look back at that Free Willie movie, you
realize how fake the jump of Free Willy over the
kid is, But it was so magic when you're watching
in the movies, you're like, oh my god, how did
you get an orca to jump over the barrier of
(31:51):
rocks and stones? And he just jumping. The little kid
is saying, no, you getting around and yeah, and he's
like and then when he goes like this, and then
the you know, the orc just flies over him and
it's like and you knew it was fake because there's
no freaking way that just like these little tiny drops
were just falling in his face and he's.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like where the graphics I don't remember, but it was
all graphics.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Or flying over the kid's head, like there was like
a piece practical practical or flew over him. It was
just like this and it was a slow motion shot. Yeah,
but I feel like there it was a slow motion
without being slow motion, you know, like they did it
slow Yeah, we bought it that it was slow motion. Yeah.
Oh man, I gotta looked at scene up. It's very good.
(32:41):
I thought you were saying that it was like some
terrible like v effects. That's what I'm saying. That the
practical it's terrible. Yeah, but I got to tell you
the fact that they had and you know, it goes
back to originality, bringing in full circle to like white
movies were so magical then it's like it didn't matter, right,
Like even when you had Jim Hanson create monsters and
(33:03):
you could only see them from the neck up or
the shoulders up, and you never saw them walking, you know,
like you didn't care. Yeah yeah right, Leo, Okay, thank you.
Leo's playing the video back. Look at it. Look at
this part. Oh, that actually doesn't look too bad, bro,
(33:24):
No freaking way. The kid has time to do that
entire performance in the middle of a realistic orca over
my head, jump pay that ship back, Pay that ship back.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
But it it actually doesn't like, like.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Look look bad, what is this? What is this? Look
at look at his performance? He's like straight up. He
had time to turn around, smile. Look at this thing
like the tails not even moving. It's like still but
you know he's not going over and around. Yeah, it's
like going like like like it's flying over his head
(34:01):
like a plane, right right right, so flat and made
that in like thirty years. Yeah? Is that is that
how he sounded the kid? No, but that's how that's
that's just how I remember it. That's how you feel,
that's how I like. Yeah, anyways, this was really fun. Yeah,
(34:22):
this is Wilmer bald Ramai Rodriguez. And you just pretended
to listen to this. You're probably on your phone anyway,
so we didn't hear this episode. So if you're just
so optimistic, yeah, if you were just watching, if you
were just looking at your phone, and just remind you
we were talking about Blockbuster. Okay, until the next episode.
(34:43):
I'll see you guys next time. Perse
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