May 14, 2026 • 22 mins
Wilmer's 3 AM doom-scrolling habit finally has an audience. He drags Freddy into the deep end on aliens, government secrets, and a prediction he might regret going on record about! If he disappears, you heard it here first.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, I'm Wilmer about the rod I'm Freddie Rodriguez.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
That's right. So I think.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I think we can start this episode with a very
specific theme. I mean, I'm gonna tess it on you
real quick. Yeah, doom scrolling. You know how I love
my conspiracies. You know how I fantasize allows.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I get the d ms all the time. Yes, I
forget that, Yes you do. For those of you who
are catching up. I love a conspiracy. I love an
alien conspiracy. I also get lost in paranormal videos obviously, YAI,
But I want to believe.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
But occasionally, like I want in the morning, I just
want Freddy to be part of the fun. I want
him to not miss out on what I'm experiencing. So
I'll DM you, yes, some crazy things.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
That's a I'm so happy that you pointed out the
time because I can. I can go through my DM.
You'd be like, oh, wover, what's he doing up at
three in the morning? Just kind of m three in
the morning, and it'll be like the most random stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know, when you open your DM and you see
that green dot of like who's currently online? Mine is
probably like on like twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Are you like in bed just just kind of going
like this, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Dude, Like the monitor will like be fuzzy with my
son will wake up or something, and then I'll be like, okay,
he's just and then I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Like, well, I'm at it scross cross grosscrow.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Do you find it to be relaxing at that time?
I know it's it's you know how it is. It'll
keep you up right. So like I'm thinking, I'm like, oh,
I just I'll just watch these two jokes. I'll just
watch these two funny videos. I'll just like try to
watch this video ten times so I can because sometimes
the captions are so fast, and I'm not a fast reader,
so I have to like go back to read it,
(02:26):
and go back to read it, go back to you
can now I go to the next session, go back
to we go back to read it, so it takes
it on. Then I look, it's like, oh man, it's
been forty minutes. I should go to sleep. It's like
saying you'll only eat two cookies, right, but then you'll
eat the whole pack. Yes, yes, yes, yes, But in
those forty minutes I found the mess window to send
you some unnecessary yes.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And it's always very your specific sense of humor too,
So I'm like, that's swimmer.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Oh he's laughing. He's laughing right here right now. Yeah,
in the morning, and he's really laughing right now. But
so doom scrolling. So are you?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Do you ever get caught up by a video or something,
whether it's in the news on TV, whether it's on
the newspaper for those who watch n CIS and are
at that you know, sixty and sixty five year old mark.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But the idea is, when you come across something.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Whether it's in the news or online or where you
get your news, this is something catch you and all
of a sudden you go and deep dive.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I think I think for me, it's not a subject
matter in particular. I think like my algorithm will catch
a specific subject matter and then it'll just keep feeding
me that, and I'll just keep going down that.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Am I screwing up?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
No, no, no, click up one of mine and you're like, oh,
here's a.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Here's my favorite sixty one you know, sixty one Mercury,
or here's my you know, blah blah blah. No sounds
like oh aliens.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
No, no, no I I Lately I've been I've been
trying to become more financially literate late lately, so I've
been just been trying to learn about like investing in
trusts and like the market, and so I've been getting
like a lot of that, which has been really educational. Uh.
But but I love the funny stuff as well. I
love all that, like like do you are your algorithms
(04:15):
or your doom scrolling? Is that based on something that
you would you would physically search or is that or
is that just something that kind of pops up on
your well, some stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Is like sometimes it's like out of programming, you know,
where like if I look at cars, then they also
send me like racing things, right, or if I look
at fitness videos, it's like a bunch of du doing apps,
you know, and like type stuff you know, and you know,
and if you know, if if I look up alien stuff,
(04:46):
it's all about like.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But you physically put in there alien or what do
you know?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
So I don't have to anymore. It just knows my heart.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, yeah, so it kind of keeps me engaged. But
I think what I do look at is, you know,
it's what's the latest on the one thing? Right, So
like for example, if i'm you know, if I'm waiting
for them to disclose something, there was someone who's been
doing congressional hearings, I'll go back to see if there's
(05:17):
been any further into the congressional hearings on it. So
you follow it like in real time, yeah, because I
know it's happening. Interesting, I know that it's happening. It's
not just random stuff. That's not freight up.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It's not random, that's real life, okay, But but you
actually know that these hearings are happening.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
In Oh yeah, I mean, I'm following the congressional hearings
on it, the Senate hearings on it. You know, I'm
seeing some of the official, you know, official high ranking
government government officials who who were in charge of such stuff.
It's repetitive, have you learned anything new in the last
(05:55):
year or two. Like I was like you, I was
sort of following it, and I found it to be repetitive.
I found like they were all.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Kind of shit.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Is it is?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Because the only thing that I feel has kept me
on is the fact that there's some more they classifying.
So that's the stuff that I get fascinated over. It's
like the stuff that the Department of Defense or will
you know more the Department of War now, right, but
the department of that department basically is the classifying certain
(06:22):
videos that we hadn't seen before or videos that had leaked,
and they're like, yeah, we can acknowledge that can only
came from us, but we can't. We can't explain it.
So that's the stuff that I really like to get
in there.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
What's been the one thing, like in the last let's
say five years, right where we're in the sort of
the muck of all the stuff that's been repetitive, what's
been the one thing that has been like waw.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, this is new.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
The fact that the government and a lot of our
defense since and National Security aidgencies have acknowledged that some
of these upas or or UFOs as we've iconically known
them from that they are capable of doing maneuvering and
strategic flying compared to none that humanity has been able
(07:19):
to achieve in technology. So that's the stuff that like,
you know that the Department of Defense with the Department
of War would would it classify something right, or the
Homeland Security or whatever right they would they would say, hey,
there's really be acknowledging we have. You know, no government
has taken credit for such, you know, an anomaly, you know,
(07:45):
but it's moving at speeds and maneuvering and taking short
terms turns that that you know, no one has ever
been able to achieve in technology, Like no aircraft can
maneuver that way. And those say aircrafts are experiencing them
in real time. So those videos are coming from aircrafts
who are actually flying beside these things, right, and they're like, whoa,
(08:07):
that just took a really fast, sharp turn that nobody
would have to do.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It's almost like ninety degree turns.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Also the fact that like certain some of these objects
that are being foullowed over water all of a sudden
are able to not create a splash when they submerge
themselves underwater those are the things that I'm kind of like, oh,
that's crazy. And the fact that the Department of the
Fans of the Department of War are the classifying some
of these things and the government are acknowledging that, yes,
these are things that are being brought to our attentions,
(08:36):
and yes they are real in the sense that like,
these are real things that are unexplained for.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Us, even for us as a military.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
That's the stuff that I think that I'm the most Okay,
So what would you say to the theory that it's
just the theory right there?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, that what you're seeing is.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Actual, is actual technology that's been developed by the government, right,
like a gigantic drone or what have you. And they
didn't tell that pilot, for example, right who's flying the plane,
and so so that way, it's it's justifiable, right because
that pilot.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Is saying, I'm seeing this thing.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I've never seen anything like that before. But the government's
doing that on purpose in order to get him to
say he's never seen it before. But that's actual technology
that they've developed that they're testing on our It's very
possible air force, it's very possible.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
But for the government himself to the classified and acknowledge it.
It's almost like two lies on the line, right, like, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Bigger, bigger cover, bigger cover. Okay, okay, No, no, I'm following.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I'm just I'm just throwing that out there. That's the
theory that I heard, and I was like, oh, okay.
In order for them to cover up their own advancement
and technology, they would they would first allow their own
pilots to see it and for them the sort of
stamp it right, and then for them the put another
layer and come out to one of these.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, no, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And in front of that, I think I think that's
also a great conspiracy, right, I think is the idea
that But then are we acknowledging that humanity has been
able to create such technology that that further flirts with
the idea of either time travel or hyper speed traveled,
and that a human can be inside an aircraft and
(10:27):
actually maneuver it or right like it could be maneuver
from home, right like it could be.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And why do you think they'd be disclosing it right
now if not? Like, why had they waited so long.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
To disclose all this stuff. Why did they?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I think it's it's getting harder to keep secrets with
the access to technology Internet AI. You know, there's levels
of intelligence on how to actually get into really classify information.
Espag espionages on a whole different level. Right, Like people
can really if they want to know, they will find it.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
It's like it's really hard to kind of keep anything
top secret anymore. Right, So the idea that you can
get ahead of it, you know, it's interesting to me.
But but any of that like fascinates you? It all,
Like would it affect you at all? If all of
a sudden the government goes, yes, they are real and
we have made contact.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Would it affect me?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I don't. I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I don't think so, because how would it affect my
daily life? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It's like a aliens are real?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Right, like Obama said, Right, Okay, well it would be
a national security thing right there.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It'll be like a national scare.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But that man, don't you think that they would have
done something by now if that's the case? Right?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Like? Well, I saw Steven Spielberg doing an interview the
other day where he talked about like this theory that
he really is leaning on like maybe these are not aliens.
Maybe this is us from five, you know, five hundred
thousand years in the future. Is that the premise of
this new movie that disclosure Day?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I think, I don't know, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
But basically he's talking about the fact that it could
be us coming back in time seeing how it all
started and how it all turned out for them, you know,
and like now that they're altering, you know, the future.
But there's an argument to say that, like, if we
are advancing technology, look at what we have in our
(12:25):
hands with the iPhone right for advancing technologies as fast
imagine what we humanity or AI will assist us in
creating in just one hundred more years, imagine three thousand,
four thousand more years. And how could we not spend
(12:45):
time in the future to come back and say, let
me see how it all turned out this way?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Or like how do we wiped out that generation?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You know?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
And there's just historical time travel where they're like just
trying to piece together their present day, you know, and
the fact that they can, why wouldn't you write, like,
you know, we read this this historical books to kind
of go back in time and say like, okay, what
would we like or like how do these logs could pass?
And you know I was historically recorded there the first car,
(13:16):
the first plane. You know, you know, you say, what's
your what's your trash TV?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Like my trash TV is like I like watching ancient Aliens, right,
I don't know if you're into that.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I just find it into that bring that whether I
believe it or because like the Egyptians right, like come on, yeah,
I'm more fascinated with like the hieroglyphics that they find
and how a lot of that is depicted in the hieroglyphics.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And I try to sit there and go, okay, well
what else could that be?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Right if not for me?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
They're literally like drawing a spaceship hieroglyphic and other.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Things are coming from above beans and like spotlights are
like shining down on things, and there's this godlike creatures
that hold wisdom, that hold you know, the know how.
And it's a very interesting thing. And you think about
the position of the pyramids and all that stuff. That's
what's a really big question.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
And they only explained it in the way that they
know how, right, Like this like bird with fire coming
in from the sky.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It's like, okay, well if it was.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
A And also nobody said that there's been the discovery
of any tools that might have been suspected to be
used to create the pyramids, or to carve the roads,
or to align you know, aligned astrological you know symbols
with the geographical blueprints of the layouts of all these
(14:55):
you know ancient you know history, So like how did
they measure that?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
How did they align this perfectly with orions? How did
they you know? Like that stuff is to me is
like so fascinating.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And then nowadays, you know, we can't build a house
that won't burn itself, right.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
And and if those pyramids were built by aliens and
they were used as a power source, like how did
the power source work? Right? Like all of those pyramids
were supposed to be sort of connected to each other, right,
whether it's that one or the.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
One in Mexico or are you familiar with all these
missing scientists lately?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Okay, yes, yeah, So that's that stuff is super crazy
because one of them.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Had created the.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Hypothesis that you could draw energy from thin air from
our atmosphere because everything's radio energy transferring, right, Like the
whole earth is connected in this kinetic energy that the
travels through the roots, through the air, through the whatever,
you know, So like they're tapping into these airwaves that
actually can turn into energy. Therefore, it gives us the
(16:01):
ability to create energy for for all of existence, you know,
meaning like we will be able to to to leave
natural energy, we were able to leave oil, we were
able to all these things because we.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Can now draw unlimited amounts of power from the air.
And then now that scientists is missing, it's missing and
why is missing?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Well, because guess what, some people are making trillions in
those specific businesses, you know. You think about also the
conspiracy of pharmaceutical right, like that there's there's suspected cures
to things that are treated long time, long term, and
that those cures have been kind of buried and and
have made disappear. It's pretty heavy, pretty heavy, pretty heavy.
(16:54):
But so you don't lose sleep over an alien looking
through your window.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I don't, man, Yeah, I don't. I kind of I
look for them.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, you're open the window, and I'm like peace, just
another possum.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I don't, man. I'm of the I'm of the mindset
that like I just I just protect my peace every day,
whether it's that, whether it's what's happening in the news, wherever,
it's so important for me to protect my piece and
protect my peace in my home.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
You think aliens have seen your work? I hope.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So have I ever done an alien? Have you ever
done it? No? Have you an alien?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Alien? Let me see how we're done alien. No, I
haven't done anything. I've done like vampire stuff. I've done
ye futuristic stuff, but I think that's the terrestrial.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, yeah, I just don't whether it's that or even like,
what about when you dooms grow right and you see
stuff on there? Is that constantly on your mind? Is
sort of?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
It doesn't. It doesn't wear on me.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
But because we're artists and we amplify and we're storytellers
and producers and directors and all that stuff, I'm always like.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
What's the XX files? How do I put this in
XX files? Ah?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh, that's that's interesting. So you look at it more
as a creator, very interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So I obsess over it because then I can be like,
because I was just I had the privilege of going
over to the Pentagon a week ago and at that place, Yeah,
it's uh, it's you know, you know the building is
shaped like a pentagon.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
What yes, But anyway, so I went.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I went there and I got a chance to say
hi to some of you know, some of the best
people in our country, right, like some of this amazing military. Word,
it's fascinating, it's awesome, very like, leave your phone here, now,
let's walk the hallways.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You know, keep bats on every door. It's freaking awesome.
It's so sick.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, but I got a chance to talk to him
a little bit and all that, and you know, so
I'm always like, what's the show that takes in the
Pentagon in the one floor that very few people have
a key card to access to conversations that like if
the world we know that one sentence on like the
(19:12):
six o'clock meeting they had like they wouldn't be able
to sleep for three months.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
What departments are at the Pentagon?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I mean every branch of the military there. I think
they's somewhere else, but I think they should have some
presence there. But I think every branch of the military
is there. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the chiefs,
you know, the high rankings of the three four star
generals that are reporting to you know, to their perspective,
(19:44):
you know, CEOs and then the you know.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
But this is like the institution. This is where the
Secretary of War, the Secretary of the.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Fans however you want to acknowledge him, you know, is
it performs at That's where he, you know, has his
nation security meetings and all that stuff. And this is
where they communicate the president and to all their government's militaries.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Is that what you found most fascinating? Like what did
they just say an hour ago? That's like if I
was a fly on the wall.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh my god, I'm fascinated about that stuff. Like what's
the show in there? What's the West wing version of
the Pentagon? That's what I like to make.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
That's I think that's what you just said about there
being different departments, because there's all every you know, TV
shows are usually based on like like your n cis right,
like ye sagencies about Yeah, yeah, what if there was
a multi agency show in one place in this agency?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah it could be really cool.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Well, I guess we'll never know. We'll never know valies
are real.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Maybe maybe we will, though I think we will this
year in the in the near this year. Oh yeah,
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Oh absolutely, ye, you'll remember these words. And why if
I if I disappear, if anything happens to me, I
am not depressed.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Is not what they say.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I'm not depressed. I don't want to do anything crazy
to myself, you know. I you know, I I love
my life.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I love what I do.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So if I'm saying this, it is because we all
just need to be a little aware.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah yeah, and maybe you should stop digging so much
because the more info you know.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, but maybe maybe it's my duty, maybe it's your
duty to. Maybe it's my purpose to to be a
whistle blower, put it in all these.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Things, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
But but just but if something happens to me, just
know that this year they will disclose to the alien
Surreal twenty twenty six. Oh yeah, it happens this fall,
and it'll be something that we're going to be talking
about at Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
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this is Freddi Rodriguez.
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
That's right. So I think.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I think we can start this episode with a very
specific theme. I mean, I'm gonna tess it on you
real quick. Yeah, doom scrolling. You know how I love
my conspiracies. You know how I fantasize allows.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I get the d ms all the time. Yes, I
forget that, Yes you do. For those of you who
are catching up. I love a conspiracy. I love an
alien conspiracy. I also get lost in paranormal videos obviously, YAI,
But I want to believe.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
But occasionally, like I want in the morning, I just
want Freddy to be part of the fun. I want
him to not miss out on what I'm experiencing. So
I'll DM you, yes, some crazy things.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
That's a I'm so happy that you pointed out the
time because I can. I can go through my DM.
You'd be like, oh, wover, what's he doing up at
three in the morning? Just kind of m three in
the morning, and it'll be like the most random stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know, when you open your DM and you see
that green dot of like who's currently online? Mine is
probably like on like twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Are you like in bed just just kind of going
like this, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Dude, Like the monitor will like be fuzzy with my
son will wake up or something, and then I'll be like, okay,
he's just and then I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Like, well, I'm at it scross cross grosscrow.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Do you find it to be relaxing at that time?
I know it's it's you know how it is. It'll
keep you up right. So like I'm thinking, I'm like, oh,
I just I'll just watch these two jokes. I'll just
watch these two funny videos. I'll just like try to
watch this video ten times so I can because sometimes
the captions are so fast, and I'm not a fast reader,
so I have to like go back to read it,
(02:26):
and go back to read it, go back to you
can now I go to the next session, go back
to we go back to read it, so it takes
it on. Then I look, it's like, oh man, it's
been forty minutes. I should go to sleep. It's like
saying you'll only eat two cookies, right, but then you'll
eat the whole pack. Yes, yes, yes, yes, But in
those forty minutes I found the mess window to send
you some unnecessary yes.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And it's always very your specific sense of humor too,
So I'm like, that's swimmer.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Oh he's laughing. He's laughing right here right now. Yeah,
in the morning, and he's really laughing right now. But
so doom scrolling. So are you?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Do you ever get caught up by a video or something,
whether it's in the news on TV, whether it's on
the newspaper for those who watch n CIS and are
at that you know, sixty and sixty five year old mark.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But the idea is, when you come across something.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Whether it's in the news or online or where you
get your news, this is something catch you and all
of a sudden you go and deep dive.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I think I think for me, it's not a subject
matter in particular. I think like my algorithm will catch
a specific subject matter and then it'll just keep feeding
me that, and I'll just keep going down that.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Am I screwing up?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
No, no, no, click up one of mine and you're like, oh,
here's a.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Here's my favorite sixty one you know, sixty one Mercury,
or here's my you know, blah blah blah. No sounds
like oh aliens.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
No, no, no I I Lately I've been I've been
trying to become more financially literate late lately, so I've
been just been trying to learn about like investing in
trusts and like the market, and so I've been getting
like a lot of that, which has been really educational. Uh.
But but I love the funny stuff as well. I
love all that, like like do you are your algorithms
(04:15):
or your doom scrolling? Is that based on something that
you would you would physically search or is that or
is that just something that kind of pops up on
your well, some stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Is like sometimes it's like out of programming, you know,
where like if I look at cars, then they also
send me like racing things, right, or if I look
at fitness videos, it's like a bunch of du doing apps,
you know, and like type stuff you know, and you know,
and if you know, if if I look up alien stuff,
(04:46):
it's all about like.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But you physically put in there alien or what do
you know?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
So I don't have to anymore. It just knows my heart.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, yeah, so it kind of keeps me engaged. But
I think what I do look at is, you know,
it's what's the latest on the one thing? Right, So
like for example, if i'm you know, if I'm waiting
for them to disclose something, there was someone who's been
doing congressional hearings, I'll go back to see if there's
(05:17):
been any further into the congressional hearings on it. So
you follow it like in real time, yeah, because I
know it's happening. Interesting, I know that it's happening. It's
not just random stuff. That's not freight up.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It's not random, that's real life, okay, But but you
actually know that these hearings are happening.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
In Oh yeah, I mean, I'm following the congressional hearings
on it, the Senate hearings on it. You know, I'm
seeing some of the official, you know, official high ranking
government government officials who who were in charge of such stuff.
It's repetitive, have you learned anything new in the last
(05:55):
year or two. Like I was like you, I was
sort of following it, and I found it to be repetitive.
I found like they were all.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Kind of shit.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Is it is?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Because the only thing that I feel has kept me
on is the fact that there's some more they classifying.
So that's the stuff that I get fascinated over. It's
like the stuff that the Department of Defense or will
you know more the Department of War now, right, but
the department of that department basically is the classifying certain
(06:22):
videos that we hadn't seen before or videos that had leaked,
and they're like, yeah, we can acknowledge that can only
came from us, but we can't. We can't explain it.
So that's the stuff that I really like to get
in there.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
What's been the one thing, like in the last let's
say five years, right where we're in the sort of
the muck of all the stuff that's been repetitive, what's
been the one thing that has been like waw.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, this is new.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
The fact that the government and a lot of our
defense since and National Security aidgencies have acknowledged that some
of these upas or or UFOs as we've iconically known
them from that they are capable of doing maneuvering and
strategic flying compared to none that humanity has been able
(07:19):
to achieve in technology. So that's the stuff that like,
you know that the Department of Defense with the Department
of War would would it classify something right, or the
Homeland Security or whatever right they would they would say, hey,
there's really be acknowledging we have. You know, no government
has taken credit for such, you know, an anomaly, you know,
(07:45):
but it's moving at speeds and maneuvering and taking short
terms turns that that you know, no one has ever
been able to achieve in technology, Like no aircraft can
maneuver that way. And those say aircrafts are experiencing them
in real time. So those videos are coming from aircrafts
who are actually flying beside these things, right, and they're like, whoa,
(08:07):
that just took a really fast, sharp turn that nobody
would have to do.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It's almost like ninety degree turns.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Also the fact that like certain some of these objects
that are being foullowed over water all of a sudden
are able to not create a splash when they submerge
themselves underwater those are the things that I'm kind of like, oh,
that's crazy. And the fact that the Department of the
Fans of the Department of War are the classifying some
of these things and the government are acknowledging that, yes,
these are things that are being brought to our attentions,
(08:36):
and yes they are real in the sense that like,
these are real things that are unexplained for.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Us, even for us as a military.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
That's the stuff that I think that I'm the most Okay,
So what would you say to the theory that it's
just the theory right there?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, that what you're seeing is.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Actual, is actual technology that's been developed by the government, right,
like a gigantic drone or what have you. And they
didn't tell that pilot, for example, right who's flying the plane,
and so so that way, it's it's justifiable, right because
that pilot.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Is saying, I'm seeing this thing.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I've never seen anything like that before. But the government's
doing that on purpose in order to get him to
say he's never seen it before. But that's actual technology
that they've developed that they're testing on our It's very
possible air force, it's very possible.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
But for the government himself to the classified and acknowledge it.
It's almost like two lies on the line, right, like, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Bigger, bigger cover, bigger cover. Okay, okay, No, no, I'm following.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I'm just I'm just throwing that out there. That's the
theory that I heard, and I was like, oh, okay.
In order for them to cover up their own advancement
and technology, they would they would first allow their own
pilots to see it and for them the sort of
stamp it right, and then for them the put another
layer and come out to one of these.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, no, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And in front of that, I think I think that's
also a great conspiracy, right, I think is the idea
that But then are we acknowledging that humanity has been
able to create such technology that that further flirts with
the idea of either time travel or hyper speed traveled,
and that a human can be inside an aircraft and
(10:27):
actually maneuver it or right like it could be maneuver
from home, right like it could be.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And why do you think they'd be disclosing it right
now if not? Like, why had they waited so long.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
To disclose all this stuff. Why did they?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I think it's it's getting harder to keep secrets with
the access to technology Internet AI. You know, there's levels
of intelligence on how to actually get into really classify information.
Espag espionages on a whole different level. Right, Like people
can really if they want to know, they will find it.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
It's like it's really hard to kind of keep anything
top secret anymore. Right, So the idea that you can
get ahead of it, you know, it's interesting to me.
But but any of that like fascinates you? It all,
Like would it affect you at all? If all of
a sudden the government goes, yes, they are real and
we have made contact.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Would it affect me?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I don't. I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I don't think so, because how would it affect my
daily life? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It's like a aliens are real?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Right, like Obama said, Right, Okay, well it would be
a national security thing right there.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It'll be like a national scare.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But that man, don't you think that they would have
done something by now if that's the case? Right?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Like? Well, I saw Steven Spielberg doing an interview the
other day where he talked about like this theory that
he really is leaning on like maybe these are not aliens.
Maybe this is us from five, you know, five hundred
thousand years in the future. Is that the premise of
this new movie that disclosure Day?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I think, I don't know, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
But basically he's talking about the fact that it could
be us coming back in time seeing how it all
started and how it all turned out for them, you know,
and like now that they're altering, you know, the future.
But there's an argument to say that, like, if we
are advancing technology, look at what we have in our
(12:25):
hands with the iPhone right for advancing technologies as fast
imagine what we humanity or AI will assist us in
creating in just one hundred more years, imagine three thousand,
four thousand more years. And how could we not spend
(12:45):
time in the future to come back and say, let
me see how it all turned out this way?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Or like how do we wiped out that generation?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You know?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
And there's just historical time travel where they're like just
trying to piece together their present day, you know, and
the fact that they can, why wouldn't you write, like,
you know, we read this this historical books to kind
of go back in time and say like, okay, what
would we like or like how do these logs could pass?
And you know I was historically recorded there the first car,
(13:16):
the first plane. You know, you know, you say, what's
your what's your trash TV?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Like my trash TV is like I like watching ancient Aliens, right,
I don't know if you're into that.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I just find it into that bring that whether I
believe it or because like the Egyptians right, like come on, yeah,
I'm more fascinated with like the hieroglyphics that they find
and how a lot of that is depicted in the hieroglyphics.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And I try to sit there and go, okay, well
what else could that be?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Right if not for me?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
They're literally like drawing a spaceship hieroglyphic and other.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Things are coming from above beans and like spotlights are
like shining down on things, and there's this godlike creatures
that hold wisdom, that hold you know, the know how.
And it's a very interesting thing. And you think about
the position of the pyramids and all that stuff. That's
what's a really big question.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
And they only explained it in the way that they
know how, right, Like this like bird with fire coming
in from the sky.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It's like, okay, well if it was.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
A And also nobody said that there's been the discovery
of any tools that might have been suspected to be
used to create the pyramids, or to carve the roads,
or to align you know, aligned astrological you know symbols
with the geographical blueprints of the layouts of all these
(14:55):
you know ancient you know history, So like how did
they measure that?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
How did they align this perfectly with orions? How did
they you know? Like that stuff is to me is
like so fascinating.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And then nowadays, you know, we can't build a house
that won't burn itself, right.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
And and if those pyramids were built by aliens and
they were used as a power source, like how did
the power source work? Right? Like all of those pyramids
were supposed to be sort of connected to each other, right,
whether it's that one or the.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
One in Mexico or are you familiar with all these
missing scientists lately?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Okay, yes, yeah, So that's that stuff is super crazy
because one of them.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Had created the.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Hypothesis that you could draw energy from thin air from
our atmosphere because everything's radio energy transferring, right, Like the
whole earth is connected in this kinetic energy that the
travels through the roots, through the air, through the whatever,
you know, So like they're tapping into these airwaves that
actually can turn into energy. Therefore, it gives us the
(16:01):
ability to create energy for for all of existence, you know,
meaning like we will be able to to to leave
natural energy, we were able to leave oil, we were
able to all these things because we.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Can now draw unlimited amounts of power from the air.
And then now that scientists is missing, it's missing and
why is missing?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Well, because guess what, some people are making trillions in
those specific businesses, you know. You think about also the
conspiracy of pharmaceutical right, like that there's there's suspected cures
to things that are treated long time, long term, and
that those cures have been kind of buried and and
have made disappear. It's pretty heavy, pretty heavy, pretty heavy.
(16:54):
But so you don't lose sleep over an alien looking
through your window.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I don't, man, Yeah, I don't. I kind of I
look for them.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, you're open the window, and I'm like peace, just
another possum.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I don't, man. I'm of the I'm of the mindset
that like I just I just protect my peace every day,
whether it's that, whether it's what's happening in the news, wherever,
it's so important for me to protect my piece and
protect my peace in my home.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
You think aliens have seen your work? I hope.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So have I ever done an alien? Have you ever
done it? No? Have you an alien?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Alien? Let me see how we're done alien. No, I
haven't done anything. I've done like vampire stuff. I've done
ye futuristic stuff, but I think that's the terrestrial.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, yeah, I just don't whether it's that or even like,
what about when you dooms grow right and you see
stuff on there? Is that constantly on your mind? Is
sort of?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
It doesn't. It doesn't wear on me.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
But because we're artists and we amplify and we're storytellers
and producers and directors and all that stuff, I'm always like.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
What's the XX files? How do I put this in
XX files? Ah?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh, that's that's interesting. So you look at it more
as a creator, very interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So I obsess over it because then I can be like,
because I was just I had the privilege of going
over to the Pentagon a week ago and at that place, Yeah,
it's uh, it's you know, you know the building is
shaped like a pentagon.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
What yes, But anyway, so I went.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I went there and I got a chance to say
hi to some of you know, some of the best
people in our country, right, like some of this amazing military. Word,
it's fascinating, it's awesome, very like, leave your phone here, now,
let's walk the hallways.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You know, keep bats on every door. It's freaking awesome.
It's so sick.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, but I got a chance to talk to him
a little bit and all that, and you know, so
I'm always like, what's the show that takes in the
Pentagon in the one floor that very few people have
a key card to access to conversations that like if
the world we know that one sentence on like the
(19:12):
six o'clock meeting they had like they wouldn't be able
to sleep for three months.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
What departments are at the Pentagon?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I mean every branch of the military there. I think
they's somewhere else, but I think they should have some
presence there. But I think every branch of the military
is there. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the chiefs,
you know, the high rankings of the three four star
generals that are reporting to you know, to their perspective,
(19:44):
you know, CEOs and then the you know.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
But this is like the institution. This is where the
Secretary of War, the Secretary of the.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Fans however you want to acknowledge him, you know, is
it performs at That's where he, you know, has his
nation security meetings and all that stuff. And this is
where they communicate the president and to all their government's militaries.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Is that what you found most fascinating? Like what did
they just say an hour ago? That's like if I
was a fly on the wall.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh my god, I'm fascinated about that stuff. Like what's
the show in there? What's the West wing version of
the Pentagon? That's what I like to make.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
That's I think that's what you just said about there
being different departments, because there's all every you know, TV
shows are usually based on like like your n cis right,
like ye sagencies about Yeah, yeah, what if there was
a multi agency show in one place in this agency?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah it could be really cool.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Well, I guess we'll never know. We'll never know valies
are real.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Maybe maybe we will, though I think we will this
year in the in the near this year. Oh yeah,
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Oh absolutely, ye, you'll remember these words. And why if
I if I disappear, if anything happens to me, I
am not depressed.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Is not what they say.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I'm not depressed. I don't want to do anything crazy
to myself, you know. I you know, I I love
my life.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I love what I do.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So if I'm saying this, it is because we all
just need to be a little aware.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah yeah, and maybe you should stop digging so much
because the more info you know.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, but maybe maybe it's my duty, maybe it's your
duty to. Maybe it's my purpose to to be a
whistle blower, put it in all these.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Things, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
But but just but if something happens to me, just
know that this year they will disclose to the alien
Surreal twenty twenty six. Oh yeah, it happens this fall,
and it'll be something that we're going to be talking
about at Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Thank you for listening to those amigos. This is Wilman,
this is Freddi Rodriguez.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
And until the next episode, where we continue to dive
into things that humanity has the right to know. Yes,
you can find those amigos everywhere find your podcasts and
until then, keep looking in the sky.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Dose Amigos is a production from WV Sound and iHeartMedia's
Michael through That podcast Network, hosted by Me, Freddie Rodriguez,
and Wilmer Valdorama.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Those Amigos is produced by Cooper Mole and Sophie Spencer
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Speaker 1 (22:32):
Executive producers are Wilmer Valdorama, Freddie Rodriguez, and Leo Klem
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Speaker 3 (22:38):
This show is mixed and mastered by Sean Tracy and
original music by Madison Devenport and Hala Boy.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
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